The Wrighter’s Block Episode Episode 45 – The Gravy King Gets Wrighter’s Block

The Wrighter's Block


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Matt “Laser Legend” Hicks, aka The Gravy King, joins Matt to discuss the Derrick Chauvin Trial and why he hates caucuses.

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am back it is the writer’s block
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also happens to be here with us tonight
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this is episode 45. we’re gonna go with
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it 45
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of the writer’s block and uh many of you
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might be thinking
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that’s weird i’ve never seen you do an
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episode
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and that is true uh i took some time off
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from this show because spike and i were
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both very busy i
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was working full time i was tired and
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something had to go i something had to
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give and this was what had
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to go but now i am back
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we are rested we are ready to go this
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for the next
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i don’t even know how long and we are
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love
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now without any further ado i bring to
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you
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the laser legend himself the gravy king
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mr matt hicks
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hey everybody and welcome to my
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intervention
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i am a real person not a figment of your
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imagination
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what is up my my my
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my birthday brother i’m telling you and
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you know what’s even better
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you were just saying this is episode
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number 45 this was my 45th birthday
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this is kismet it’s karma man this
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universe is looking out for
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us yeah everything everything is coming
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up matt right now
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everything is coming up matt yeah
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now yeah yeah ready to take over the
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world
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so um fun funny story having absolutely
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nothing to do
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with uh anything we’re gonna talk about
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today but i went to
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a doctor today for the very first time
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and uh
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we can roughly call that a decade
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uh-huh good times and um i come from a
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long line of prostate cancer
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and i was talking to the doctor and he
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says tell me about your medical history
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and i was like well you know my dad had
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prostate cancer my grandfather had
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prostate cancer i don’t know about
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his dad because we don’t know who that
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is and he said okay
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um well how old are you and i told him
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and he said oh no we don’t start
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checking for that until 45
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and i went oh well i got some time left
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before you give me the old two-finger
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shuffle
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and uh he was like well that’s one way
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that’s one way to put that so yeah yeah
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well so you know
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i was giving you guys some grief a while
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back about uh live streaming my
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colonoscopy
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turns out i don’t have to have one of
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those they did a uh uh
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what the hell you call a ct scan right
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and the doctor’s like ah
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you just got diverticulitis i’m like
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okay that kind of sucks but all right
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whatever
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i mean you can’t have no colonoscopy but
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i do have to start at uh at 50
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at 50 they’re going to start with that
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one yeah they they told
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they told me 45 for people who have like
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a history of it in their family
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and then 50 for people who don’t so i’ve
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got
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many many years ahead of me before
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they go fast my friend i know they go
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very i know
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many many years before i have to go
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um so did you do any did you do anything
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special on your birthday or did you just
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kind of hang out at the house and get
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drunk and get high
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yeah uh yeah that i mean yeah that’s
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long and short of it i can’t really
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there’s not there’s not a whole lot of
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detail left up in here because i
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pretty much covered it right there um
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i did learn that and i’ve said this
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before
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this weekend just kind of uh reinforced
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it for me
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somebody has to make a sort of like
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intoxal lock or breathalyzer device
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for for smartphones because [ __ ]
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amazon when you’re drunk and high
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is a beautiful place like they have this
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whole section of records
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like vinyl because that’s you know my
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wife and i that’s our jam we just got a
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huge vinyl collection
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well we bought so many restaurants she
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was just enabling my
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awful behavior i was great so years ago
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back when i still drank because uh i’m
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like 2 000
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i’m six and a half years sober um but uh
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congratulations
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thank you i appreciate it um but back
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when i was still drinking
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i had i said the same thing because uh i
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was a drunk dialer
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i was a drunk texter i was a drunk
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shopper i was you know
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drunk amazing like i was i was the guy
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that would drunkenly look at the
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facebook ads and say
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yeah i need that
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i don’t know what the [ __ ] is but i need
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i need it i need it right now and i
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would
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and i would just end up with all this
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stuff and i always said
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somebody needs to come out with a way
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that i can’t open my phone when i’m too
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drunk
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and somebody actually came out with
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something that you had to solve
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math problems yeah i don’t know if i
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could do that sober
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right and that was my issue i was like
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if i did that i might never open my
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phone again
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yeah that see that’s why i’m in law
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school because you don’t really have to
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do any math in law school like
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does the jury figure out liability and
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there’s like damages and all that like
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not my problem that that’s why i went to
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school for communications it’s because i
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didn’t actually want to go to school for
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anything
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right right i just wanted to make my
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parents yeah so rack up 80 000
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in debt um yeah what what i’ve started
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doing
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and i’m sure you’ve seen this in some of
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the the the muddy waters
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group not the you know the the
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discussion group whatever
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like i’ve taken when i’m just tore up
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listening to records like live streaming
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it’s become my thing
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i i have to go inside and it’s like i
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look at it the next day i’m like oh
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that’s just tragic but i’m not taking it
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down
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that’s up it’s out there no you have to
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you have to leave it up once it’s
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once it’s out there in the world you
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have to leave it
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just i’m okay with that yeah just own it
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just
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that’s why when people are like oh i’m
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deleting tweets it’s like why you said
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it there’s screenshots of it somebody’s
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got it recorded somewhere so
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yeah i mean there’s an internet archive
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it exists right it’s not going in
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it’s out there it is definitely out
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there
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um no that’s a terrible segue i’m not
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saying that
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but let’s go
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i’m laughing because i know where we’re
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going right so
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uh let’s jump over to uh people who
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really can’t take things back
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um in
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minnesota let’s talk about derek chauvin
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and the trial that has been happening
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since monday monday or tuesday um
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yeah the whole thing man it is a whole
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thing and
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before we get into some of the more
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nitty-gritty of it what i realized
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is that uh trials are really boring
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they are very boring so the fact that
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you want to be a lawyer good on you
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because
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i well
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so i’ve been nerding out on it right
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like
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when i’m not in class i’m watching it
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right you got you pulled up on my
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computer at school or i actually put it
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on the tv here at home when i get home
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and um you know i i
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seriously doubt that i’ll be ever
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involved in any kind of litigation any
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kind of
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trial that’s this
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high visibility high level it’s just
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it’s not it’s the odds are not in my
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favor
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on that one right um technically you
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have better chance of becoming
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president yeah than of that
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because if you think about it you’ve got
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this trial which is really high
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visibility
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the last one that was of this magnitude
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oj menendez casey
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casey anthony yeah i’ll give you casey
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anthony but what was that 10 years ago
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something like that yeah yeah so like
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once a decade
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yeah yeah i mean give or take give or
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take
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so and like i think i think this one um
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i i think this one’s a it’s it’s so
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there’s like a kind of a scale right
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there’s like
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the big time and then the even bigger
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big time right
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and like the rodney king stuff
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the derrick chauvin trial those are like
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the really really big time there’s
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they’re not just like dramatic tv like
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oj was or like casey anthony was
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those are those are uh dramatic tv
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with huge potential
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uh political and socio
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social uh ramifications and
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i mean you know this as well as i do
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like
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one juror one verdict everything’s
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probably fine another verdict
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american cities are burning again right
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i mean
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i honestly don’t know because i
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see that no matter the verdict
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american cities are going to be burning
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again
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i don’t think there’s a there in no way
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do all american cities come out
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without some of them burning down no
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matter what happens here
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that’s fair that’s yeah i can see that
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i can absolutely see that being the case
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yeah i think that you are going to see
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a lot of issues no matter what it is and
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we were talking a little bit before the
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show
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and both of us kind of have it at 50 50.
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like i have no
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idea i have no idea
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what is gonna happen yeah so
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what one thing that’s interesting is um
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and again we were talking about this
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earlier um
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the the the lead defense counsel that
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dude is slick man he’s
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good good um just the way that he’s
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framing everything i was i was watching
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as they were um
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examining and cross-examining uh
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uh the retired police officer the
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retired police sergeant uh
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kluger yeah and um that was
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that was today right yeah yeah yeah that
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was
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yeah in fact he was the last witness
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before they called it today yeah i was
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well
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i was watching the replay of that on my
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way home
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on my way home not enough hours no
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definitely no not when you’re trying to
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work full-time and do this
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um but yeah that was yeah but
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the well the defense attorney kept he
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kept framing the whole thing
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um and i mentioned this i think when i
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called into muddy
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waters on tuesday about how one of their
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plans was to
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um uh basically blame the crowd that was
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there for distracting him from doing his
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job
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and the defense attorney was doing a
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really good job of pushing that
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narrative
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that that um congratulations america
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groups of people with a camera filming
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the police are now a hostile threat
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and they must be exactly at the expense
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of other people’s lives
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exactly now one of the things
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um like from the first day the opening
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arguments that they were giving um
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the the prosecuting attorney who uh
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i don’t remember his name honestly off
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the top of my head but the prosecuting
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attorney
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uh was saying a lot of things like
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the we’re going to show you an autopsy
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from the person who trained
16:35
the per the person who did the autopsy
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and she is going to say that his autopsy
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was
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wrong right and
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of course the defense attorney is saying
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no our autopsy is right it was done by
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the
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the county uh coroner and
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and everything he was saying was
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they’re gonna show you this but we’re
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gonna show you somebody else who’s going
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to say that that person’s wrong or that
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that thing is wrong
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and and a lot so
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my guess is this comes out as a hung
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jury
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because you only need to convince one
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yeah you only need to convince one he
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didn’t do it or that
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it wasn’t intentional or that it wasn’t
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manslaughter it was just part of the job
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or that this is how the minnesota police
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train people
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and it’s not his fault
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well i i i think it’s
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i i hate to sound overly dramatic saying
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this but i
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honestly think um so so in in
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in trials whether it’s civil or criminal
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there’s no like trial by ambush doesn’t
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happen the defense knows everything the
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prosecution is going to say or do
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prosecution knows everything the defense
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is going to say or do
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well in advance like we’re talking weeks
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to months in advance
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in this case i think that it is
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absolutely going to come down to
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closing arguments and who can
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who can make the more persuasive
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impassioned
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plea to the jury i really do i really do
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think it’s going to come down to last
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minute
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closing arguments who’s going to be the
18:17
better used car salesman so to speak
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and i would agree with that i would
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definitely agree with that neither one
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of these guys are like your johnny
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cochrans who’s out there just
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razzle dazzle like let’s get them
18:28
distracted with
18:29
rhyming about whatever my grocery list
18:32
gloves
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right yeah if the glove don’t fit you
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must acquit
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that’s my favorite moment from the 90s
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man
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i mean even people who have no idea
18:43
anything about the oj trial
18:45
know that line and that oj
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got acquitted yeah and that oj probably
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did it
18:52
um but like that’s
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that’s it like they don’t remember uh
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marcia harden
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or uh uh
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yeah that or or uh uh the kardashian
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dude yeah nobody remembers robert
19:07
kardashian
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daughters right the the the reason that
19:11
we now have to sit through the
19:13
kardashians
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and they are a member of our like
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collective
19:18
pop culture is because of oj [ __ ] oj
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man
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oj man yeah he may have murdered a
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couple people but he’s the reason that i
19:28
know the names of multiple kardashians
19:30
and for that
19:31
i am really mad yeah for that alone he
19:34
should be in prison
19:39
he deserves he deserves quite a hefty
19:40
sentence for that i think he
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i honestly think he lives around me
19:46
i thought he lived in las vegas so i
19:49
know that he was trying to get
19:50
uh permission to move to florida because
19:52
his daughter definitely lives here
19:55
i’ve met her um she used to hang out at
19:58
some of the same kava bars that i used
20:00
to hang out at
20:00
so i’ve met her and i know that he has
20:03
been there
20:04
so i’m like oh he had permission because
20:06
that’s probably a condition of his
20:07
release
20:08
right yeah gotcha that’s
20:11
condition of his parole is to stay in
20:13
las vegas but i think he might be here
20:15
now because i know he’s been here a lot
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right right now you i’m sure you’ve seen
20:21
the south park episode with the wookie
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defense
20:25
the wookie defense yeah where they they
20:28
do a whole spoof like
20:30
uh so chef is suing some record company
20:33
for
20:34
uh copyright infringement because
20:36
they’re like
20:37
marketing a song that he wrote like 20
20:39
years ago or something like that
20:41
and uh the the record company hires a
20:45
lawyer who’s like this johnny cochran
20:47
parody
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and he does the wookie defense where uh
20:51
he goes on some wild
20:53
tangent about how like the seven foot
20:56
tall
20:57
wookie lives on the green planet indoor
20:59
with a bunch of two and a half foot tall
21:01
ewoks
21:02
it doesn’t it does not make any sense if
21:04
the wookie is from endo you must have
21:06
quit
21:07
yeah 1010 can confirm that’s the thing
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that law school students
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definitely do we definitely use the
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wookiee defense that’s fair
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that’s fair yeah i’m not like i i was a
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huge south park fan
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uh when it first came out and i was much
21:21
younger and um
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then like i kind of fell off after a
21:25
while because it kind of dipped
21:27
shortly after the george bush election
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um
21:31
when they had the class election and the
21:34
girl named flora couldn’t decide
21:36
because i thought that that was one of
21:38
the funniest things flora who are you
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voting for
21:41
i don’t know um but yeah i kind of fell
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off but
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i’ve seen a few episodes here and there
21:48
recently and those guys are in top form
21:52
those guys are just
21:53
killing it i they yeah they came out
21:55
with that movie
21:57
the episode or the movie recently where
21:59
they were making fun of
22:00
q q and on oh yeah i haven’t seen that
22:04
yet
22:04
oh god it’s so funny it is so
22:08
funny they their group is called the
22:10
little cuties
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that’s beautiful that’s beautiful
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yeah yeah south park south park is one
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of those shows that’s like um
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i watch it because the political uh
22:28
the the political and social commentary
22:30
is accurate and it’s
22:31
fighting and i also watch it because
22:34
sometimes it offends me
22:35
and that’s the only way i know that i
22:37
still have a line of personal decency
22:40
yes yes
22:45
that’s how i feel about uh family guy
22:48
yeah i watch an episode of that every
22:50
now and then i’m like
22:52
yeah that was rough ah
22:55
i can’t i can’t sign off on that and
22:59
many of the people watching this show
23:00
right now have seen some of the stuff
23:02
i’m willing to say on the air and
23:06
kids you ain’t seen nothing yet
23:10
uh yeah nobody on this show is running
23:12
for
23:13
national office oh god no i’m not
23:15
running for anything ever
23:16
i got i got appointed to the zoning and
23:19
planning board in my
23:20
uh by my county council a while back and
23:24
i don’t frankly don’t even know what
23:25
they were thinking doing that right
23:28
you guys really done messed up i get
23:30
asked every year to run
23:32
for city council of whatever town i
23:34
happen to be living in
23:35
or you know city council or county uh
23:38
commissioner or whatever
23:39
and i’m always like no i don’t um
23:43
yeah i’d rather just be the king maker i
23:45
want to be behind the scenes working
23:48
right i’m like i don’t i don’t i don’t i
23:50
don’t want to do that
23:51
um we have a couple of comments uh that
23:54
i wanted to bring up uh
23:55
keith hooker says i kind of feel that
23:57
jury should require citizens who serve
24:00
to meet specific criteria not meaning
24:02
for bias but rather education some
24:04
people just should never serve on a jury
24:06
too many people get away with murder or
24:08
too many
24:08
are falsely accused due to idiots on the
24:11
jury
24:12
now i don’t know your opinion on this
24:15
obviously
24:16
but my personal opinion is uh that each
24:20
if all of us want to make a difference
24:22
better than running for office
24:24
better than doing what i do or what
24:27
spike does
24:27
well spike does like so much so maybe
24:30
not what he does
24:31
but uh better than like podcasting or
24:34
uh you know getting into facebook
24:36
arguments um or anything like that
24:38
is go to jury duty because if you go to
24:41
jury duty
24:42
and some and you get selected for a jury
24:45
let’s say it’s somebody that’s uh in
24:46
there
24:47
for being a sex worker or somebody
24:50
that’s in there on
24:51
a drug crime or uh some other
24:54
not a victimless crime you can vote to
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acquit
24:57
you can say no not guilty and yes if
25:00
enough people do it
25:02
that changes the law it’s called jury
25:04
nullification
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it is the number one thing that any of
25:08
us can do
25:09
so i think that many people should go
25:11
out there yes i understand that a lot of
25:12
people are going to go who are
25:13
uneducated the joke that
25:15
i don’t remember who said it they said
25:17
the jury is made up of a bunch of people
25:18
who weren’t smart enough
25:20
to get out of jury duty we need to
25:24
change that where
25:25
these are the people who are smart
25:26
enough to get into jury duty because
25:28
they want to change the system
25:31
i want to change the game with this one
25:32
you know you can go to your local county
25:35
courthouse
25:36
and talk to the clerk of courts and
25:37
volunteer for jury duty
25:39
like you can do that that’s the thing
25:41
they’ll be like oh yeah man come on
25:43
let’s do it but i want to i want to push
25:46
back a little bit on what keith was
25:48
was uh is keith right keith yes yeah
25:51
keith i want to push back a little bit
25:53
on what you were what you brought up so
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um the idea behind a jury
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it’s it’s it’s a beautiful and it’s a
26:02
noble thing the reason that so many
26:04
people get acquitted that shouldn’t be
26:06
and so many people get well nobody gets
26:10
acquitted that shouldn’t be for the most
26:11
part that’s pretty rare
26:13
right but the reason so many like
26:15
everybody everybody will point to oj
26:17
everybody will be well what about oj and
26:19
we’re talking about one
26:22
yeah one well and and and it’ll make
26:24
sense it’ll make sense why here in a
26:26
second
26:26
right predominantly people are
26:29
wrongfully convicted and the reason that
26:31
that happens is because our prosecutor’s
26:33
offices
26:34
are wildly overfunded and our public
26:37
defense
26:38
offices aren’t funded at all so
26:42
a county solicitor or prosecutor or a
26:45
a state attorney general has
26:48
almost an unlimited bank role to hire
26:51
expert witnesses
26:53
forensic evidence analysts etc etc etc
26:56
to prosecute the case a defense attorney
27:00
from the public defender’s office has
27:03
70 clients 15 minutes to spend with each
27:06
one before a trial
27:08
and zero money to to defend the case
27:12
so the obvious outcome is the obvious
27:14
outcome on that one
27:15
i don’t think the problem is with the
27:17
jury system i think the problem is with
27:19
the uh the the funding of the
27:22
prosecutors versus the
27:24
uh public defenders um
27:27
and and frankly as far as people being
27:31
acquitted incorrectly or wrong
27:34
wrongfully acquitted rather um it’s kind
27:37
of the same argument because most of
27:39
those
27:39
most of those people are going to be
27:40
going through public defenders
27:42
i i would defer to benjamin franklin who
27:45
who
27:46
you know can’t quote it we’ll give you a
27:48
rough approximation it’s better that
27:50
a hundred men should go 100 guilty men
27:52
should go free than one innocent men
27:54
man should be convicted i’ll take that
27:56
every day of the week
27:57
yes i mean when you start talking about
27:59
depriving somebody of essential liberty
28:02
that’s a big big thing right and it
28:04
shouldn’t be taken lightly
28:06
absolutely absolutely not and and again
28:09
like
28:10
when when i first got into liberty
28:12
movement um
28:14
like seriously got into the liberty
28:15
movements
28:17
i’ve been sober for six and a half years
28:20
so seven eight years ago
28:21
um oddly enough becoming a libertarian
28:23
made me want to quit drinking
28:24
um
28:27
but uh that was one of the things that i
28:30
really
28:31
uh clung to was jury nullification
28:36
because they were here in pinellas
28:38
county i don’t know about other places
28:40
but if you get selected for a jury
28:42
they will ask you if you know what jury
28:44
nullification is
28:47
really they will say do you know what
28:48
jury nullification is and if you say yes
28:50
you’re out
28:52
and i’m not recommending anybody lie i
28:54
would lie
28:55
i would just repeat back like i’m never
28:58
going to be called for jury duty since
29:00
so i i that’s not true i might i might
29:03
get
29:03
called for federal jury duty but like
29:05
being a
29:06
well not yet a lawyer but soon to be a
29:08
lawyer in small town
29:10
bum [ __ ] egypt middle of nowhere south
29:12
carolina
29:14
there’s no way i’m going to get put on a
29:15
jury it’s just not going to happen
29:17
i’ll never even get called for jury duty
29:18
but well maybe federal
29:20
but yeah if they were doing that here i
29:21
would be like i don’t know jury
29:23
nullification
29:24
you speaking portuguese never heard of
29:27
that
29:28
jury nullification do you know what jury
29:30
nullification is
29:33
just do you know what’s like mr ray do
29:36
you know what jury nullification is do
29:37
you know what jury nullification is
29:39
that’s what i’m asking you that’s what
29:40
i’m asking you
29:42
just repeat it just repeat it back yeah
29:45
answer their question with a question
29:46
right
29:47
um we’ve got somebody in the comments
29:49
who says floyd was an opiate addict that
29:51
got that way
29:51
after being prescribed pain meds the
29:54
government does not want that to be
29:55
focused so they should
29:56
uh throw chauvin under the bus and uh
29:59
overcharge so that an acquittal causes
30:02
massive distraction riots
30:04
that only help dems in dc and blm
30:06
coffers
30:07
i okay so i don’t agree with that yes he
30:09
was a drug addict
30:11
100 he was a drug addict
30:15
um for some reason my lap my my ipad
30:17
just went off the internet
30:19
um but as long as as long as we’re still
30:22
streaming that’s all i care about
30:24
almost go on brother um but we uh
30:28
yes he was a drug addict yes he was high
30:30
that day
30:32
yes he gave the uh the cashier a
30:35
fake 20 bill
30:39
none of those are reasons for him to be
30:41
dead now
30:43
people say he had a lethal amount of
30:46
fentanyl in his system
30:48
that would have killed a normal man but
30:50
he was much larger than a normal man
30:52
uh so he possibly
30:56
could have survived all of that now
30:59
this even if derek chovin putting his
31:02
neck on
31:03
his knee on his neck for nine minutes
31:05
didn’t kill him
31:06
that does not change the fact that the
31:09
stress of that situation yes the drugs
31:11
had something to do with it but they
31:12
knew that he was on drugs
31:15
so perhaps they should have attempted a
31:18
different way to stop him
31:23
so we we talked about this
31:26
before the show um and i guess now’s the
31:28
time for me to get on my for me to get
31:30
on my soapbox sure
31:31
um i don’t make a habit of talking about
31:34
this very frequently so a lot of people
31:35
don’t know this
31:37
um i’m retired from the military i spent
31:39
20 years in the army
31:41
in a comp in a combat arms mos
31:44
and um what i know
31:48
is that killing another human being is
31:51
not a natural act
31:53
it is a very unnatural act and it
31:55
requires
31:57
a lot of training to get somebody to
31:59
overcome that hurdle that that
32:01
barrier that we have of of
32:04
of taking another human life
32:08
what i saw in the videos the
32:11
the footage filmed by bystanders and the
32:15
body camera videos
32:17
um in darren shelvin
32:21
darren derrick sheldon whatever who
32:23
cares derek
32:24
whatever i saw
32:28
an indifference and a callousness
32:32
towards human life that i never
32:35
in 20 years saw in some of the most
32:40
hardened warriors hard and trained
32:43
warriors that you will ever meet in your
32:45
lives like right like
32:47
he was just completely indifferent did
32:49
like did not care
32:51
did not care at all not one little bit
32:53
and
32:55
he needs to be off the streets he
32:57
absolutely 100
32:59
does not need to be on the streets
33:00
because he will kill again
33:02
out of it out of disinterest he had 17
33:06
complaints against him
33:07
before this one before this one
33:11
he was not he was not what people would
33:13
call a good cop
33:15
by any stretch of the imagination now
33:18
uh what what i was saying to you before
33:20
the show um
33:22
there’s one person in this entire mess
33:24
that uh i feel
33:26
just absolutely horrible for i feel
33:28
worse for him than anybody else
33:30
and people might get mad because george
33:32
floyd is no longer with us and
33:35
he’s not the person but
33:38
i feel so bad for chris martin the 19
33:41
year old
33:42
store clerk who was working the counter
33:45
that day
33:47
yeah because all he did so at
33:50
cup foods they have a policy
33:53
where if you take counterfeit money it
33:56
comes out of your paycheck
33:57
which i don’t know how legal that is but
33:59
that is their store policy
34:01
um and so he went out and he was like
34:03
hey man
34:04
uh according to his testimony he said i
34:06
went out uh
34:08
i i this is fake
34:11
this comes out of my paycheck please
34:14
please give me 20 bucks
34:15
and then uh george floyd’s buddy the guy
34:17
that was there with him
34:19
gave him a different fake 20 and he was
34:22
like no i really need
34:23
i really need real money and the guy
34:25
just ripped it up and threw it on the
34:27
ground
34:28
um and all of this is coming from chris
34:29
martin um
34:31
and so that was when chris martin went
34:33
in and talked to his manager and he said
34:35
they won’t pay me
34:36
i think we should call the police and
34:38
his manager did
34:40
when he was asked about it how did he
34:42
feel about everything he said he felt
34:44
guilt
34:45
for calling the police he said i should
34:46
have just eaten the 20 bucks
34:48
george floyd would still be alive if i
34:50
didn’t call 9-1-1
34:51
or we didn’t call 9-1-1 the riots would
34:54
have never happened if we didn’t call
34:55
9-1-1
34:56
this is a 19-year-old kid a 19-year-old
35:00
kid with his entire life in front of him
35:02
who feels at some level that he is
35:05
responsible
35:06
for the worldwide riots
35:09
that were connected to george floyd’s
35:10
death yeah and it’s it’s sad
35:13
like the the saddest part to me
35:18
is that at 19 years old
35:21
um he’s learning one of the hardest
35:23
truths in the world is that nobody has a
35:25
cracked rear view mirror right like
35:27
we all see crystal clear behind us and
35:30
um
35:31
yeah i mean it really is tragic that he
35:33
has to learn that lesson at this at this
35:35
young of an age
35:36
and he’s going to need years of therapy
35:37
i feel i truly do feel bad for that kid
35:40
yeah i feel awful for him and he also
35:43
has to live with the name chris martin
35:48
did not do him any favors no just people
35:52
screaming cold play at him every chance
35:54
every time he walks down the street
35:57
in all honesty compared to what he’s
35:58
probably being called down when he’s
36:00
walking down the street now i would take
36:01
cold play
36:02
um yeah well i don’t you know i don’t
36:06
know i think
36:09
especially after his testimony on the on
36:11
the witness stand was public
36:13
um so we’ve got this like
36:17
this goddamn weird [ __ ] polarization
36:21
thing in america where like
36:22
there’s this loud screaming on the left
36:24
and then there’s loud screaming on the
36:26
right that’s like ah
36:27
just head noise right i i think the
36:30
truth of it is
36:32
that the loud screaming on the left and
36:34
the right is like
36:35
20 of the population on each side and
36:38
then there’s this giant 60
36:40
chunk in the middle that actually do
36:43
have some compassion and empathy we’re
36:45
just not the
36:46
really loud voices right because i mean
36:48
i mean we can be loud right
36:49
we absolutely feel happy it’s not often
36:52
that libertarians are referred to as
36:54
the quiet voices yeah we don’t get we
36:57
don’t get the air time on mainstream
36:58
media because
36:59
like if it’s not polarizing and it
37:01
doesn’t bleed
37:02
then it doesn’t leak we’re just you know
37:05
we’re not an issue because of that
37:08
not to say polarizing is good that’s
37:10
just i’m i’m dishing you up a segway man
37:15
you are dishing it up for you
37:18
[Laughter]
37:20
i am weirdly having internet issues
37:23
hopefully it uh we
37:24
we make it through um it looks like i’m
37:27
back
37:27
all right so um
37:31
speaking of polarizing speak it up
37:34
speaking of polarizing
37:37
let’s talk about caucuses uh and not
37:39
let’s just talk about
37:41
and not like not just libertarian
37:43
caucuses just caucuses in general
37:46
um because all oh no i’m gonna talk
37:48
about libertarians i get it but
37:51
it’s still oh it still stands everything
37:53
we’re about to say
37:54
still stands oh yeah yeah yeah
37:58
so let’s talk about carcasses
38:02
the way that i see it
38:06
so i’m a huge sports fan for anybody who
38:09
doesn’t know
38:09
uh and today was opening day of baseball
38:12
and i’m a giant red sox fan love the red
38:14
sox
38:15
and people will often refer to this as
38:17
my tribalism because
38:18
i have a red sox tattoo i have more red
38:21
sox
38:22
paraphernalia around this house than uh
38:25
any
38:26
grown man probably should um can i enter
38:29
for a second yeah are you from the
38:32
northeast or was this just like
38:34
like some random pic like when you were
38:36
a kid you were like i like their
38:37
logo or something no uh when when i was
38:41
really young
38:41
so i was born in california and then
38:43
when i was really young
38:45
uh we moved to rhode island and the
38:47
first game i went to was at fenway
38:49
gotcha so i’ve been a fan literally my
38:51
entire life
38:53
um well you know since yeah
38:57
everybody’s like you live in florida and
38:59
you grew up in dc how are you a red sox
39:01
fan
39:01
um but people will often refer to this
39:05
as my tribalism
39:06
and yeah a little bit now when it comes
39:09
to politics
39:10
we are deeply entrenched in tribalism
39:14
the people on the left are you know the
39:16
democrats i’m not even going to say the
39:18
people on the left the democrats
39:19
are they are democrats and everything
39:21
that the republicans say is wrong and
39:23
everything the libertarians want is
39:24
wrong and the things i do agree with the
39:27
libertarians on they’re terrible because
39:29
they’re just stealing votes from us we
39:30
need to get rid of them we need to get
39:32
rid of the republicans republicans are
39:33
the exact same way
39:34
libertarians aren’t better
39:37
we are not better but when you take it
39:40
down
39:40
another step and you go to the caucuses
39:44
within these parties
39:45
like if you go to the democrats you’ve
39:47
got like the progressives and the
39:49
more centrists which aren’t even really
39:50
scientists anymore and
39:52
they hate each other and they’re
39:53
fighting and they’re destroying the
39:54
party from the inside and then you’ve
39:55
got the
39:56
the more centrist republicans and the
39:58
trump publicans and
39:59
they’re fighting and like destroying it
40:01
from the inside and we have all of these
40:03
caucuses
40:04
in the libertarian party that are doing
40:07
the exact same thing only better
40:14
only better
40:18
so i’ll
40:21
i’m going to start with the 50 000 foot
40:24
view
40:25
and then we can zoom in as close as you
40:27
like because i’m game for whatever i
40:29
ain’t scared perfect mama hixton
40:31
[ __ ] um
40:37
i abhor a caucus
40:42
all of them because
40:46
what do they do they tell their members
40:48
what to do they tell their members how
40:50
to vote they tell their members who to
40:52
like and who to support
40:54
a lot of problems with that first of all
40:57
i breach
40:58
laziness i don’t vote for
41:02
support or help anybody that i don’t
41:05
personally vet
41:06
and approve of and agree with on a
41:08
substantial number of issues
41:11
um that’s a huge problem for me it
41:13
breeds this laziness
41:15
second of all um it brings this
41:18
tribalism that you
41:20
that you brought up um people forget
41:23
about liberty
41:24
and start thinking only in terms of how
41:27
is this going to advance my caucus
41:30
and uh whatever the hell it is that we
41:33
stand for
41:34
when frankly ninety percent of what you
41:36
stand for is the same as ninety percent
41:38
of what everybody else in the
41:39
libertarian party stands for
41:40
like i’ll give you a little insight into
41:44
what’s going on in south carolina right
41:45
now right like
41:46
so we’ve got the whole mises caucus
41:49
takeover [ __ ]
41:51
like [ __ ] ed hardy shirt axe body
41:54
spray [ __ ] of the libertarian
41:56
party
41:57
running their mouths and i’m like shut
42:00
the [ __ ] up and show up at the
42:01
convention and beat me i don’t care like
42:03
do it i want to go home hang out with my
42:05
wife and not have to work so much i’d be
42:06
cool with all of that
42:07
right and i’m just like and um
42:13
yeah no no love lost with
42:16
with any of them um
42:20
thank god for beer
42:21
[Laughter]
42:23
i totally forgot where i was going with
42:25
this as ben franklin once said beer is
42:27
proof that god loves us and wants us to
42:29
be happy
42:30
definitely wants me to be happy
42:31
definitely wants me to be happy
42:34
um oh yeah here’s where i was going with
42:35
it like
42:37
i’ve told these these people in the
42:38
mises caucus that are like just trying
42:40
to [ __ ] on my chest and give me like the
42:41
biggest cleveland steamer ever i’m like
42:43
bro you don’t get it i’m an
42:46
anarcho-capitalist
42:47
huge fan of austrian economics if you
42:50
would shut your [ __ ] pie hole
42:52
and listen to the words i’m saying you
42:54
would realize that we are like 99
42:56
simpatico and i hate your caucus because
43:00
you’re just
43:00
like i said the ed hardy shirts i like
43:02
[ __ ] at hardy his shirts are garbage and
43:04
axe body spray stinks
43:06
like beyond that you and i we’re we’re
43:09
like
43:10
peas in a pod right get rid of that
43:12
trash
43:13
and perhaps you have found an ally who
43:15
has
43:17
as as as many of the candidates who have
43:20
come on muddied waters with you and
43:21
spike can attest
43:23
uh if they would forget their trash
43:26
take it out leave it at the [ __ ]
43:28
dumpster where it belongs
43:30
they would have an ally in me that has a
43:32
pretty [ __ ] significant bankroll for
43:34
helping candidates and [ __ ] like that
43:35
like
43:36
it’s kind of my jam yeah it’s kind of my
43:38
jab like
43:40
not not puffing my own chest up but like
43:43
they’re
43:43
one of their big claim to fame is like
43:45
we raised all this money and we
43:47
gave like two thousand dollars to
43:48
candidates [ __ ]
43:51
i gave that like
43:55
come on where’s your flex that’s not a
43:57
flex like get out of here
43:59
yeah it might so i didn’t have to have
44:00
somebody else tell me how to do it like
44:02
i know how
44:03
i’m not an idiot my is so my issue with
44:05
the caucuses is you’re right it makes it
44:07
where
44:08
members of the caucus no matter which
44:10
caucus it is
44:11
are lazy they will say okay who does
44:14
leadership say we should vote for
44:15
but not only that instead of doing any
44:19
real work instead of doing anything that
44:22
constitutes as any kind of outreach they
44:25
spend
44:27
90 percent of their time arguing with
44:29
other caucuses
44:31
in private facebook groups going back
44:34
and forth
44:36
on why their caucus is better and
44:39
why you know like why mises is better
44:42
than the audacious caucus or the
44:44
audacious
44:44
caucus is better than the radical caucus
44:46
why the radical caucus is better than
44:48
the whatever the only caucus that
44:49
matters is the waffle house caucus
44:52
damn it i’m glad you went there the only
44:54
one
44:56
muddiedwatersmedia.com store pick up
44:58
your waffle house caucus gear today
45:00
but um the
45:04
uh but they spend so much time doing
45:07
that and it wastes the time of people
45:08
who are trying to do
45:09
actual outreach and you see people who
45:12
are
45:13
they’re good at the outreach who get
45:14
wrapped up in these arguments and these
45:17
bitter fights
45:18
and it wastes their time instead of
45:21
being out there
45:22
teaching people about libertarianism
45:23
instead of
45:25
spreading the word to let people know
45:26
that you know what you’re probably more
45:28
of a libertarian than you realize
45:29
instead they’re sitting here right you
45:33
know
45:33
typing away or you know typing away
45:35
saying
45:36
yeah but you know mises says whatever
45:39
and
45:42
and it wastes all of their time as well
45:46
as everybody who’s reading it
45:47
and nobody is getting the work done
45:51
have you ever seen this television show
45:53
um
45:54
what we do in the shadows
45:58
uh is that the um vampire one yes
46:01
yes so
46:05
caucuses all of them are the colin
46:08
robinson of what we do of pulitz of
46:11
politics
46:12
colin robinson is the energy vampire
46:15
right right where like he walks in a
46:16
room and starts talking and everybody
46:18
just passes out
46:19
because he’s [ __ ] draining the energy
46:21
right up that’s what caucuses are
46:23
all of them they’re called freaking
46:24
robinson yes
46:26
that is a that is a good way to put it
46:30
there have been multiple people who have
46:33
been in
46:33
uh libertarian party leadership that
46:36
over the years
46:37
i say that they have stolen my time um
46:40
i’m not gonna name names
46:41
because none of them are in power
46:42
anymore um
46:45
but they have stolen my time because
46:47
they would say
46:48
things that i would have to explain when
46:51
i was out trying to campaign for
46:52
somebody
46:54
and that was a waste of my time instead
46:56
of me trying to sell this candidate
46:58
who may agree with whatever the chair or
47:01
the vice chair
47:02
said uh he just wants to get elected and
47:05
he wants to bring freedom to you but
47:07
instead when i go to a door and i’m like
47:09
yeah i’m here for the libertarian
47:10
candidate they would say isn’t that the
47:12
party where the chair
47:13
or the vice chair said insert
47:17
there are so many different ones i could
47:19
use there um
47:22
which is that the one who said wow bro
47:26
i’m feeling your pain right now right
47:28
totally feeling your pain
47:29
and they and they and i and i would call
47:31
them time stealers
47:32
they because they stole my time they
47:35
stole the time of the candidates they
47:36
stole the time of anybody involved
47:38
in that campaign as well as every
47:40
campaign across the nation
47:42
that is what is happening with the
47:45
caucuses when they sit there and they
47:46
fight and they argue
47:48
you are stuck in this tribalism
47:49
mentality where your caucus is better
47:51
than the other caucus and we’re going to
47:53
take over the party or
47:54
we’re going to kick you out of the party
47:56
or whatever it is
47:58
and you’re arguing online and you are
48:00
stealing the time of everybody out there
48:02
that wants to be a good activist and
48:03
wants to spread the message of liberty
48:06
yeah and i’m gonna pull back the curtain
48:07
so everybody can see the man working the
48:09
levers
48:10
they’re all [ __ ] there is something
48:14
tragically flawed and fundamentally
48:16
wrong with every one of them
48:18
whether it’s the libertarian party the
48:20
democrat party the
48:21
republican party the green party doesn’t
48:23
matter there is a tragic flaw
48:26
huge tragic flaw in every single caucus
48:29
that exists
48:29
every one of them every single i did
48:33
some work a few years ago for the
48:34
republican liberty caucus
48:37
um they were paying me so you know
48:39
whatever i’ll do it
48:40
uh you know i’d take their money and
48:43
then poorly but that’s just me
48:44
[Laughter]
48:46
and the people that the people that
48:48
worked for the caucus are good friends
48:50
of mine
48:50
um i don’t think any of them are
48:52
registered republican anymore which i
48:53
find hilarious
48:55
uh but they um good people
48:59
oh i consider them all to be my friends
49:02
but the way that
49:03
that caucus was led from the chair down
49:06
was there was problems
49:08
and they spent a lot of their time
49:10
fighting with other caucuses in the
49:11
liberty or in the republican party
49:13
and it was very similar to what you see
49:15
in the libertarian party
49:17
instead of just focusing on getting
49:19
people elected
49:21
getting you know they could focus on
49:23
getting bills passed they actually did a
49:24
few it was amazing
49:26
um but it’s weird
49:30
as a libertarian that was weird to see a
49:31
win um
49:33
but they um
49:37
instead of focusing on that they were
49:38
focusing on oh well this guy’s doing
49:40
this and the fighting inside the caucus
49:42
was even worse because you had people
49:43
vying for power
49:44
inside the caucus and all of it
49:48
takes away from the message that you are
49:50
trying to spread that the message that
49:52
all of your activists are trying to
49:53
spread
49:54
you need to yeah and so we’re about to
49:57
go mobile here because uh
49:59
uh i’m a little buzzed and i decided i
50:01
need a cigarette we don’t smoke
50:03
we’re going on a trip that’s fair that’s
50:05
why i vape
50:07
um one of one of the things that i think
50:10
um
50:12
gets lost in the conversation like
50:14
nobody ever brings this part up
50:16
is that uh we
50:19
we should all have
50:22
a pretty serious um
50:26
suspicious beat
50:29
about anybody that seeks power like like
50:32
that’s
50:33
that’s like a non-starter for me as soon
50:34
as i as soon as i run across somebody
50:36
that’s like
50:38
i want to be in charge of stuff because
50:41
being in charge of stuff is really cool
50:43
i’m like yeah
50:43
[Music]
50:45
again i’m going to defer back to my
50:49
back to my uh work history and being
50:50
retired military i was in charge of a
50:52
lot of [ __ ] for a lot of time and
50:54
like yeah i’m automatically suspicious
50:56
of anybody that seeks power
50:59
so if you’re one of those people that’s
51:00
in a caucus you’re like we’re going to
51:01
take over i’m going to be in charge and
51:03
blah blah blah
51:04
automatically i’m like suspicious
51:06
suspicious
51:15
meg jones says she never realized how
51:16
glorious your hair is
51:19
i was told no
51:22
for the first for the first time in my
51:24
life hold on my beers
51:26
down low on the bottom shelf and i’m not
51:27
okay um
51:29
so the first time in my life the other
51:31
day i was at school
51:33
and uh the first class in the morning i
51:36
had
51:37
washed and conditioned my hair when i
51:39
showered that morning
51:40
so i had it kind of tied back in a
51:42
little bit of a bun until it kind of
51:43
dried a little because the conditioner
51:45
you know you know
51:46
girl you know what i’m talking about so
51:48
uh um
51:50
after my first class was over my hair
51:52
was relatively dry so i
51:54
[ __ ] took it out and did the fabio
51:57
and one of my friends who was sitting
51:58
right beside me said i never realized
52:00
before
52:01
you have luscious i was like
52:04
katie that was weird but thank you but
52:06
thank you
52:08
so uh before we go there was a question
52:10
in the chat that i’m actually
52:12
zero prep on this because uh it was a
52:14
question
52:15
[ __ ] it andrea o’donnell who uh
52:18
thank you for all that you do for muddy
52:20
waters media andrea thank you thank you
52:22
thank you
52:22
honestly um she wants to know the matte
52:25
pinyon
52:26
which i like that the matte pinion uh
52:28
that’s beautiful
52:29
it is on the kentucky libertarian party
52:32
tweet
52:37
i’ll give it to you like this
52:42
lb kentucky and lp new hampshire i’m
52:45
gonna put them together on this one
52:46
i didn’t see what new hampshire did oh
52:48
my god jesus
52:50
right they had a whole like whites-only
52:52
drinking fountain thing going on
52:57
there is a huge difference
53:00
in discriminating against people
53:04
based on a behavior which they can
53:07
control and modify
53:09
and discriminating against people based
53:11
on an immutable characteristic
53:14
if you choose not to get vaccinated and
53:17
you have
53:18
no legitimate health care
53:21
reason not to get vaccinated
53:24
that’s a behavior right right like
53:27
and and and i understand there’s a lot
53:29
of skepticism about this whole new mrna
53:31
vaccine i’ve had my first one
53:33
got my second one coming up next week
53:35
zero issues
53:36
i’m married to a woman who has a degree
53:38
in molecular [ __ ] biology and works
53:40
in a [ __ ]
53:41
research program for clemson university
53:43
i kind of know a little bit [ __ ] about
53:45
this because i asked a lot of questions
53:46
right
53:47
this is her jam [ __ ] ain’t gonna hurt
53:49
you [ __ ] can’t change your dna
53:51
it ain’t gonna mess you up it’s gonna
53:53
make you immune to some [ __ ]
53:55
for a little while maybe a long while
53:58
and even if you do get the [ __ ] later
54:00
it’s not going to be nearly as bad as
54:01
you would have had it
54:03
not for nothing if you have a legitimate
54:07
reason like in your immuno compromise or
54:09
something like that and you can’t get a
54:11
vaccine
54:11
i can be understanding of that if you’re
54:14
just an obstructionist
54:17
who’s like [ __ ] you guys i’m like
54:21
no because my wife is immunocompromised
54:23
and [ __ ] you
54:25
um beyond that
54:28
comparing somebody who is making a
54:30
choice
54:31
to be in a category of i’m
54:34
anti-vaccination
54:36
versus somebody who’s like not making a
54:38
choice
54:39
i’m jewish or i’m black
54:42
we crossed a big line on that one and
54:44
when i say we i say
54:46
lp kentucky and lp new hampshire there’s
54:48
a lot of ways you can deliver the same
54:50
message
54:51
without being insensitive to people who
54:53
had no choice
54:54
in being persecuted right and i
54:57
am not in any way anti-vaxx i think many
55:01
of them are good
55:02
um i will not get this one
55:06
not yet like maybe maybe down the line
55:08
after you know
55:09
it’s been tested more and
55:12
well i’m your guinea pig and i’m okay
55:14
with that like i’ve like i
55:16
i felt obligated because i have abused
55:18
my body so much to like
55:20
i’m probably gonna die in my 60s
55:23
if i make it that far so my i disagree
55:27
with
55:28
i disagree with what they said i
55:30
definitely disagree with what they said
55:31
there are
55:33
as uh as our good friend uh brenda
55:35
ritter said
55:36
there are at least a dozen ways that you
55:38
could have framed this argument without
55:40
going to gas
55:41
chambers and he was 100 right even if on
55:44
it i commented
55:45
i get to 11 and then all i can think is
55:47
gas chamber like he’s right
55:51
there are easily a dozen uh dozen
55:54
arguments that you can make
55:56
well that’s the thing like i don’t
55:58
disagree with what they were saying i
55:59
disagree with how they said it
56:01
right and my my issue with it is that
56:04
there’s people now in the libertarian
56:06
party who are like
56:06
yay look what kentucky did because we’ve
56:08
got so much attention on twitter
56:10
they’re not looking to see that every
56:12
bit of that attention is
56:14
negative like it’s not that’s not good
56:17
like that that’s worse than caitlyn
56:19
bennett with the shitty pants thing
56:21
right like that’s
56:22
no not all i don’t care what jerry jones
56:25
says not all press is good press
56:27
no it’s not and i just like
56:31
i disagree with vaccine passports
56:33
because i don’t feel oh yeah i should be
56:35
giving my personal medical information
56:37
to anybody who says hey i need to see
56:39
this or else you’re not going to be
56:40
allowed to come in here
56:41
nor do i i won’t right that should not
56:44
be
56:45
i mean it can be allowed i just won’t go
56:47
to those places
56:49
yeah like i disagree with new york
56:51
saying we’re gonna institute this i
56:52
disagree with biden saying that he wants
56:54
to get this started
56:55
i disagree with desantis who’s banning
56:57
it for everybody saying you cannot do it
57:00
i disagree with all of them because if a
57:03
private business wants to do it
57:05
okay they should be allowed to i just
57:07
won’t ever
57:08
go there exactly because my health care
57:11
is none of their [ __ ] business
57:13
right because my exactly my healthcare
57:15
not their business
57:17
instead i will if walmart’s doing it
57:20
i’ll go to target or i’ll go to some
57:22
local store that i can’t think of a name
57:24
of right now um
57:28
and if tropicana field which is right
57:31
down the road from me
57:32
if tropicana field says you need to do
57:35
this in order to watch this baseball
57:36
game
57:37
i won’t go to the baseball game i’ll
57:38
watch it at home where it’s not
57:41
a hundred degrees where food’s not
57:43
overly expensive
57:44
where i don’t have to make seven dollars
57:46
for a beer at my house they’re
57:48
already here right they’re already
57:49
they’re already there and i can eat like
57:51
nine to
57:52
14 hot dogs for the price of one here
57:56
so all right kick me out i don’t like i
57:59
i’m just not gonna show you my medical
58:01
information whether i have it or not
58:06
totally with you yeah that whole
58:07
messaging thing was just
58:10
and and the people who are yeah the
58:12
people who are doubling down on it are
58:14
just
58:14
like it’s it’s an absurdity their their
58:17
argument
58:18
is just i i i can’t even go into it i
58:22
i don’t even want to discuss with with
58:26
i don’t even want to discuss the issue
58:27
of people comparing vaccinations to the
58:29
holocaust and like the passport to
58:32
[ __ ] segregated drinking fountains
58:34
like
58:35
this apple’s an orangish man like
58:38
you had you had me at vaccination
58:41
passports are bad
58:42
you lost me when you compared them to
58:44
[ __ ] gold
58:46
star of david or whites only
58:49
like right i
58:52
and i agree uh where is this somebody
58:55
josh josh umba
58:56
in the comments says the term anti-vaxx
58:58
doesn’t fit to me and i agree with that
58:59
i like i said i’m not anti-vaxx i’m anti
59:02
this one um
59:04
yeah and that’s cool i get it people got
59:06
a lot of concerns about it because
59:08
the science is like first of all the
59:10
science is really complicated
59:12
second of all it’s brand [ __ ] new
59:14
technology
59:15
right like it’s absolutely brand new
59:17
technology
59:18
third um the vaccine
59:22
manufacturers have done a dismal job of
59:24
explaining how it works
59:26
like they have done a horrible job
59:29
of pr with this one and i’m not saying
59:31
like like the spin machine
59:32
pr i just mean like here’s the fact do
59:35
with it what you will they’ve done a
59:37
terrible job with it
59:38
so i get that people have concerns i
59:40
don’t have those concerns because i’m
59:41
married to a scientist who [ __ ] does
59:43
this [ __ ] for a living right like i get
59:45
it i know this [ __ ]
59:46
because i have to because she makes me
59:49
right
59:50
i get that i get that i know i know more
59:53
about
59:53
uh insurance law in florida oh my god
59:57
that’s one of the classes i have to take
59:58
next semester i’m so ah
60:02
it’s gonna be awful yeah the superfan
60:04
sarah anderegg will
60:06
talk to me about her day angelman but
60:08
they don’t understand that in florida
60:10
the law is blah blah blah
60:14
i didn’t understand that either and i
60:16
frankly i’m just gonna nod
60:17
i’m just gonna not i’m so glad she puts
60:21
up with me
60:22
um well matt
60:25
thank you for being the first ge episode
60:28
45
60:29
the first guest of the writer’s block um
60:31
thank you
60:32
tacular the mad tacular episode of the
60:35
writer’s block happy belated birthday
60:37
to you good sir and to you also friend
60:40
thank you um is there anything that you
60:43
would like to
60:44
say in our closing statements to um
60:47
the wonderful people here out in
60:49
muddyville
60:54
um
60:56
all of this talk about messaging and
60:59
social media and caucuses and all of
61:01
that has got me
61:03
wanting to tell all of you this
61:06
the best way that you can
61:09
spread the message of libertarianism
61:12
is to live your professed values
61:16
every single day in every single way
61:20
don’t tell the people show the people
61:24
that’s my that’s my parting shot right
61:26
across the bow
61:27
show them what you stand for what you
61:29
stand for
61:30
be it don’t talk about it and
61:33
i honestly don’t think there is any way
61:36
that i
61:37
could top that um
61:41
i just want to say thank you everybody
61:43
for tuning in to the
61:44
first episode back of the writer’s block
61:46
i am truly honored to have my brother
61:49
matt hicks here um thank you again good
61:53
sir for showing up
61:54
next week next week starting tuesday
61:58
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62:00
tuesday at the
62:01
same muddy time eight o’clock eastern
62:04
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62:06
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62:09
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62:11
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62:13
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62:16
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62:19
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62:20
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62:24
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62:27
running for lieutenant governor of
62:29
pennsylvania um so i’ll be definitely
62:31
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62:36
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62:37
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