The Wrighter’s Block Episode 42 – Erin Nakamoto Gets Wrighter’s Block

The Wrighter's Block


About This Episode


Erin Nakamoto joins Matt to discuss AnarchoVegas, the new social media site Flote, Ross Ulbricht, and much, much, more.

Thanks to the Narcissist Cookbook for the music, and Don and Sally for giving me birth.


Episode Transcript

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you try to use your body as a life raft

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cuz if there’s room enough for one there

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must be room enough for two elegant

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chefs

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all right put down your pens put down

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your pencils step away from the

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keyboards and settle in for this week’s

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episode of the writer’s block a muddied

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waters media production first and

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foremost let me to thank Don and Sally

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Reich for giving birth to me because

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without you none of this would be

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possible even though I am a constant let

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down also allow me to thank the

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narcissist cookbook for allowing me to

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use his music at the beginning in the

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end of every episode of this show and

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you can find him on the youtubes where

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he did a completely legal reading of The

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Lion the Witch and the Wardrobe and it

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is a great way to fall asleep also allow

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me to thank Alex Fortenberry for the

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kava that I am drinking today but you

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did not know you were giving me for the

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show but I appreciate it anyway

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thank you to all above bula vinaka very

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excited to bring on my guest today she

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is one of the founders man I sure

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written in the founders of float she put

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on a narco Vegas a couple of weeks ago

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she is a crypto genius my guest Aaron

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Nakamoto Aaron thank you for coming on

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my show hi thank you for having me

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finally I feel like we think we’re

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needing this and coordinating this now

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it’s finally here I know yeah very

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excited yeah the first time I thought

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that Android like when I first booked it

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I didn’t like look at my calendar and I

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thought anarcho Vegas was the week after

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you’re like yeah Thursday that’s great

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and then on Tuesday after I finished my

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show with Spike usually Aaron’s coming

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on your show Thursday I said yeah

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anarcho Vegas is Friday how is she going

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to do that as he I don’t know how that’s

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gonna work you know and I was so

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conflicted because I was like oh my god

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I have like a million and five things I

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need to get done before tomorrow I don’t

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have time to do this interview but I

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really want to do it and my friend was

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like look weigh the pros and cons and

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you smell like oh yeah I’m glad you know

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now I know it’s like it’s actually one

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month later it is then it is one month

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from the first time that I said

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you’re gonna be on my show and hey I am

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very happy that we finally got a chance

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to do it though and that it finally has

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worked out even even today we got things

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mixed up and we are not good at the

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coordinating together but yeah I was

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like yeah you’re like three o’clock I

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was like great so at 3 o’clock I’m

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sitting here and I was just like man

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Aaron Aaron and then a couple hours

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later you’re like okay I’m here and I’m

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ready I 100 times owns those things

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exist in the real world just not in my

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head and but so luckily we are here and

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we are able to do this yeah so for for

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all of my wonderful fans that who do not

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know who you are can you tell me like

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tell me a little bit about yourself

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I know that you’re an anarchist like how

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did you find Anarchy did you like start

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because so many of us start out with a

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political party because we were told

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there’s only two and then we kind of

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find our way there so how is it that you

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got from wherever you were to where you

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are now oh so my family was never really

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super political growing up and then I

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took I hate twelfth grade and I I took

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like a government class and I kind of

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just fell in love with the idea of Obama

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and like I loved I know it’s so hated

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but I really did believe in his message

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and I thought he was a very genuine

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person and I didn’t really ever take a

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look at his policies because that’s just

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not something that I’ve learned how to

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do um I was very enamored by his

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relationship with his wife and I was

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like oh you know like superficially oh

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they’re marrying in they’re cute I don’t

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know like they really love each other

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and that’s a good way to you know rile

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up came Tortosa I thought you know the

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president loves his wife so I was you

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know I was just superficial in that way

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and I I just like through all of my

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support and Obama and I remember I

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and I was just like yeah you know I’m

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voting for Obama and Obama this and

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Obama that you have to vote for Obama

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too and uh and then he won and I was

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super excited and I just I I saw all

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these things that he was doing and I

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just was totally let down and then I

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kind of just gave up about politics I

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just stopped caring because I was like

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well I mean he was kind of a letdown

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I just can’t I can’t focus on politics

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anymore because it just riles me up and

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it’s just a hot topic of conversation

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and so I like kind of withdrew my

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support and just went on with my life

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because why you know what you know there

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are so many other things to worry about

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so then I moved to Las Vegas and I met

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the person I’m living with and been with

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for about four years now and his name is

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Kingsley which is by the way that is the

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greatest name wait Kingsley you have to

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hear his full name it’s I love I love

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his full name it’s like very

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presidential role very like royal yeah

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let’s go say it sounds very British

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royalty just Kingsley his middle name is

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even worse and it’s Rockmore but not

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like our ock it’s ro q ue I Millar you

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like it’s just it’s insane I make fun of

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him for it all the time I love his name

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it’s like a British porn star

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Kingsley Rock more I’m sure he’s gonna

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love that

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yeah sorry Kingsley I don’t even know

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man I apologized already

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but anyway so I met him and actually he

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introduced me to Bitcoin big big mine

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actually brought us together and I’ll

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tell the story later but he started

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asking me questions and starting me

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started asking me questions on what I

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believed and why I believe them and I

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couldn’t provide answers I just didn’t

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have them well you know couldn’t defend

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my position on why I was a Democrat so I

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stopped being a Democrat I was like well

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I’m obviously not a Democrat if I

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believe in things like directly go again

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that so like I watched a lot of Ron Paul

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videos and this was like 2015 2016 so it

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was after his run right after the 2012

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after a 2008 and 2012 yeah and so uh so

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I wasn’t really there for that and I

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just watched a bunch of his videos and

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there was one video in particular that

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stood out and it was the one of the

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media totally blocking him and leaving

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him off of polls and like it was just

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crazy the censorship of Ron Paul back in

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the oh wait in 2012 elections so that

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was around me up and I just became

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pissed off and so I read books and I

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kind of fell down the rabbit hole went

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to NR co-co-co and I was like a little

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weird like all these people are talking

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about these ideas that I’ve never heard

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before and I I don’t know if I agree and

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I don’t have an opinion and I I felt

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like I couldn’t talk to anybody because

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I was so intimidated and I didn’t have

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ideas of my own and opinions of my own

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and and so once I got back to man

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arkhipov I was like that’s it like I’m

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diving in I’m gonna figure out who I am

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what I believe and it’s kind of just

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taking me here

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so the anarchist route I don’t think

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that people should rule over other

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people and yeah absolutely so you know

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like we were talking before the show but

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I started out GOP like my parents are

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straight yeah yeah straight down the

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line but back it back in the olden days

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back in the olden days with the voting

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booths where you just had to like click

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the button at the top and it was just

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all are automatically there like that’s

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the like I was like 10 and they’re like

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that’s the only button you need to ever

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hit is that one and I was like okay I’m

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a Republican because Republicans are

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good god-fearing people are my own God

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believe in people that’s right who hate

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the Middle East for some reason because

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that’s where Jesus is from or something

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I’m not a hundred percent sure

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and so I you know I was Republican I

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joined like the Young Republicans in

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high school I joined the Young

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Republicans in high school that group

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didn’t last very long

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not surprisingly then I went to George

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Mason for college and I got really big

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into the economics of things into the

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economics of everything and became even

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stronger as a Republican and then I

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discovered that drugs are really fun and

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I knew that as a Republican that meant I

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should go to jail forever and I was like

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but I don’t think I should go to jail

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forever yeah this doesn’t make any sense

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anymore

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and slowly I started kind of like

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learning about civil liberties and you

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know personal choices and then I became

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a libertarian and I joined the

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Libertarian Party of Florida and then I

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realized that the libertarians aren’t

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really well run and they’re they talk

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against the government but they want to

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use the government and it doesn’t make

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it like it’s just so convoluted so I

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ended up leaving and now I’m well now

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I’m Who I am today kind of crazy that

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it’s funny because like I can recall

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being a Democrat and being like love for

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all you know like you know personal

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choice respect personal choices like I

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was very Pro abortion little choices and

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I was thinking in a very collectivist

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kind of view mmhmm yeah when it comes

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down to for instance like drug use like

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you said like that’s a very individual

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thing and you’re like well wait like if

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I do like MDMA my bad person should I

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should I move go to prison should I

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should should I have to go to rehab like

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you know it’s crazy I found that when I

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was on MDMA I was usually a much better

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person than I am when I’m not on MDMA

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most people are I was a much nicer

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person on MDMA and I used to do a lot of

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it that was that was the one that really

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kind of was like yeah drugs are great

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and just pulled me right in I was like

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let’s see

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what other ones do I really think drugs

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like my parents are very against drugs

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mine too like you know like they are

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very Republican you know so like and I

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know a lot of people I had a friend die

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from from overuse of drugs and so like I

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know a lot of people who are very anti

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drug but at the end of the day like I

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feel like drugs genuinely help you break

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down barriers and really do help you to

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get to know yourself on a very personal

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level I so I never had any close scares

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with myself where I almost

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oh dude but many of my friends did yeah

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many of my friends did and it was

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terrifying

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like just absolutely terrifying and it’s

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it’s something I don’t wish on anybody

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to have to live through something like

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that but at the same time I also think

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that if they were legal or

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decriminalized that would be preferable

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for me because then they’re not

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regulated but if they’re if they’re

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decriminalized you know what you’re

0:14:23.449,0:14:28.850
getting a lot more readily than if

0:14:25.720,0:14:30.529
they’re criminally GLE because you have

0:14:28.850,0:14:32.029
so much stuff just coming in through you

0:14:30.529,0:14:35.600
know different channels it’s getting cut

0:14:32.029,0:14:38.240
with God knows what as opposed to you

0:14:35.600,0:14:40.640
can get this drug that was approved by

0:14:38.240,0:14:42.890
this third party board that’s like no

0:14:40.640,0:14:45.709
that stuff gonna get you high as hell

0:14:42.890,0:14:49.250
and don’t worry here is cocaine on the

0:14:45.709,0:14:51.949
market and on the other side of the

0:14:49.250,0:14:54.199
claim if drugs were decriminalized and

0:14:51.949,0:14:56.329
legalized then you wouldn’t have the

0:14:54.199,0:14:59.930
highest incarceration rate in the world

0:14:56.329,0:15:01.550
that’s very true and I know that we’re

0:14:59.930,0:15:03.290
gonna get to that in a minute but I do

0:15:01.550,0:15:06.949
want to talk to you about uh narco Vegas

0:15:03.290,0:15:08.449
for a really quick second explain to

0:15:06.949,0:15:10.970
anybody who doesn’t know what a narco

0:15:08.449,0:15:15.410
Vegas is what that what you were doing

0:15:10.970,0:15:18.490
with it ok ok so there are a bunch of

0:15:15.410,0:15:21.290
different Anarchy conferences already

0:15:18.490,0:15:21.660
anarchic locos really the first one in

0:15:21.290,0:15:24.600
our code

0:15:21.660,0:15:26.790
was the second one to pop up and in

0:15:24.600,0:15:30.900
Arkadelphia it is happening actually

0:15:26.790,0:15:34.530
next month but all of these conferences

0:15:30.900,0:15:36.780
are very different than ours there are a

0:15:34.530,0:15:39.570
lot of there’s like a smorgasbord I

0:15:36.780,0:15:41.700
guess of speakers who talk about just so

0:15:39.570,0:15:45.210
many different things and there’s no

0:15:41.700,0:15:46.770
real message except for like anarchy do

0:15:45.210,0:15:47.520
what you want make your own choices you

0:15:46.770,0:15:51.690
on yourself

0:15:47.520,0:15:54.690
right and so when Yaakov Kingsley at

0:15:51.690,0:15:57.390
Josh cigarettes and I sat down we were

0:15:54.690,0:16:01.110
like okay we have an opportunity here to

0:15:57.390,0:16:03.810
do something really cool and our goal

0:16:01.110,0:16:06.900
with NR Co Vegas was to make it a very

0:16:03.810,0:16:10.610
positive conference focused on solutions

0:16:06.900,0:16:13.230
rather than focused on problems and so

0:16:10.610,0:16:17.250
the best way we could figure out how to

0:16:13.230,0:16:19.200
inspire people to feel empowered to take

0:16:17.250,0:16:21.630
control of their own lives and really to

0:16:19.200,0:16:22.980
go out there and create change in the

0:16:21.630,0:16:24.930
world because that’s how I feel like

0:16:22.980,0:16:26.460
society gets better by people just

0:16:24.930,0:16:28.800
actually getting up and doing something

0:16:26.460,0:16:30.630
to make the world a better place we

0:16:28.800,0:16:34.580
figured that the best way to inspire

0:16:30.630,0:16:37.980
people is through entrepreneurship and

0:16:34.580,0:16:41.610
yeah and so that’s something that was a

0:16:37.980,0:16:45.120
focus this past year however it’s going

0:16:41.610,0:16:48.270
to be the sole focus moving forward so

0:16:45.120,0:16:49.950
we’re super excited and you know there’s

0:16:48.270,0:16:52.470
still that message of you on yourself

0:16:49.950,0:16:54.840
but really the underlying message of our

0:16:52.470,0:16:59.760
conference is you have the power in you

0:16:54.840,0:17:01.290
so go use it you know and that’s a good

0:16:59.760,0:17:03.240
point like a lot of people always think

0:17:01.290,0:17:04.590
you know we need the government to do

0:17:03.240,0:17:08.250
this we need the government to do this

0:17:04.590,0:17:09.600
and everybody says you can’t trust you

0:17:08.250,0:17:11.370
can’t trust people because people are

0:17:09.600,0:17:14.010
bad but then they forget that people are

0:17:11.370,0:17:15.450
the ones doing the government if you

0:17:14.010,0:17:16.650
believe people are good enough to run

0:17:15.450,0:17:19.500
the government you have to believe that

0:17:16.650,0:17:21.360
people are good enough to help lift

0:17:19.500,0:17:24.600
other people out of the issues that

0:17:21.360,0:17:27.330
they’re having more more so the

0:17:24.600,0:17:30.750
government sucks up everything they

0:17:27.330,0:17:31.970
touch for an example you know what I

0:17:30.750,0:17:33.990
mean is there any

0:17:31.970,0:17:36.930
anything worse than going to the post

0:17:33.990,0:17:40.200
office in my experience no I’m gonna go

0:17:36.930,0:17:43.110
DMV over post office oh good one yeah

0:17:40.200,0:17:44.340
DMV over post office so like but I

0:17:43.110,0:17:45.690
understand the point like if I’m

0:17:44.340,0:17:49.320
standing in line at the post office I’m

0:17:45.690,0:17:51.540
going I could be at UPS right now and

0:17:49.320,0:17:53.460
already be going and I wouldn’t be

0:17:51.540,0:17:55.320
standing in this line having to pick up

0:17:53.460,0:17:57.630
this one package yes

0:17:55.320,0:17:59.300
waiting to talk to someone for like 45

0:17:57.630,0:18:03.060
minutes right exactly

0:17:59.300,0:18:04.140
DMV I’ve been to one DMV that was great

0:18:03.060,0:18:08.040
and that’s because nobody knew it was

0:18:04.140,0:18:09.840
there and it was like a secret one that

0:18:08.040,0:18:11.400
somebody told me about now when there

0:18:09.840,0:18:12.900
was nobody there’s like two people work

0:18:11.400,0:18:14.010
there and I just went in I did

0:18:12.900,0:18:15.090
everything I needed to do and they’re

0:18:14.010,0:18:16.590
like okay you’re good I was like cool

0:18:15.090,0:18:18.810
great and I left it was like ten minutes

0:18:16.590,0:18:20.450
it was awesome but the moment anybody

0:18:18.810,0:18:23.550
found out about it I knew it was ruined

0:18:20.450,0:18:26.040
like a six to eight hour wait I’m not

0:18:23.550,0:18:29.160
joking I spent eight hours trying to

0:18:26.040,0:18:31.860
renew my license back in January that’s

0:18:29.160,0:18:36.120
insane mm-hmm it’s eight freaking hours

0:18:31.860,0:18:38.250
and I was just like oh I wasn’t the one

0:18:36.120,0:18:41.610
here I got one not too far from my house

0:18:38.250,0:18:43.710
here in Florida and if I’m like if I’ve

0:18:41.610,0:18:46.320
got renew my tags or you know pay

0:18:43.710,0:18:52.650
whatever idiotic fine to the government

0:18:46.320,0:18:55.440
I need to pay to keep my car right

0:18:52.650,0:18:57.090
exactly whatever fine that I need to

0:18:55.440,0:18:59.880
make sure that they don’t steal my

0:18:57.090,0:19:02.730
property like that’s like a good day

0:18:59.880,0:19:04.860
that I’m gonna be sitting there I make

0:19:02.730,0:19:07.230
sure I got a full charge on my phone and

0:19:04.860,0:19:09.360
I’m sitting there and messaging playing

0:19:07.230,0:19:11.820
games doing anything I can just waiting

0:19:09.360,0:19:14.460
for them to call a 127 or whatever

0:19:11.820,0:19:21.120
number they give me walk in it’s like a

0:19:14.460,0:19:25.680
14 I’m like great yeah like make a like

0:19:21.120,0:19:27.420
change a mailbox key right and so for

0:19:25.680,0:19:29.010
work or whatever and I have like I tried

0:19:27.420,0:19:30.780
calling the post office because they’re

0:19:29.010,0:19:34.380
like you have to call the post office to

0:19:30.780,0:19:37.800
get those okay I try and it’s just you

0:19:34.380,0:19:39.750
know um like the robotic press one has

0:19:37.800,0:19:41.100
to press three and then when you hit

0:19:39.750,0:19:41.730
zero they’re like they’ll give me more

0:19:41.100,0:19:45.630
information

0:19:41.730,0:19:47.520
like it just wanna talk I don’t know

0:19:45.630,0:19:49.080
what robotic phones you’re calling

0:19:47.520,0:19:54.060
because none of them sound that nice

0:19:49.080,0:19:56.310
when they’re doing it to me I put it in

0:19:54.060,0:19:58.410
a very nice but it’s frustrating you

0:19:56.310,0:20:02.430
can’t reach anybody meanwhile you called

0:19:58.410,0:20:04.170
FedEx or or UPS and they pick up on the

0:20:02.430,0:20:06.630
like three rings you know and it’s just

0:20:04.170,0:20:08.820
super fast super streamlined and it’s

0:20:06.630,0:20:10.200
just the government really just fucks up

0:20:08.820,0:20:12.330
everything they have their hands in

0:20:10.200,0:20:14.430
every biased exaggeration right you know

0:20:12.330,0:20:17.580
what I mean like it’s just it’s

0:20:14.430,0:20:19.770
inefficiency it is inefficiency at its

0:20:17.580,0:20:21.800
absolute best wouldn’t you continue to

0:20:19.770,0:20:25.380
screw up even the simplest of things

0:20:21.800,0:20:26.700
that we’ve been doing forever and it’s

0:20:25.380,0:20:28.170
like the government gets into it and

0:20:26.700,0:20:30.060
it’s like okay well now we need to fix

0:20:28.170,0:20:31.470
it even though it’s not really broken

0:20:30.060,0:20:32.940
it’s just like there’s this group over

0:20:31.470,0:20:34.590
here that doesn’t like it so we need to

0:20:32.940,0:20:36.390
fix it and then it just ruins it for

0:20:34.590,0:20:38.280
everybody and everybody now hates it

0:20:36.390,0:20:42.720
it’s like government breaks it and

0:20:38.280,0:20:44.460
they’re like oh I’m gonna just left it

0:20:42.720,0:20:46.230
it’s like the government creates

0:20:44.460,0:20:49.860
equality by just making sure everybody

0:20:46.230,0:20:51.510
hates everything equally yeah yeah and

0:20:49.860,0:20:54.390
it keeps people oppressed and it really

0:20:51.510,0:20:56.820
does keep like just keeps people core it

0:20:54.390,0:20:59.610
keeps people sick and it keeps people

0:20:56.820,0:21:02.910
from thriving and so that’s it’s truly

0:20:59.610,0:21:03.990
time for a new system um spike Cohen

0:21:02.910,0:21:05.100
want me to ask what some of the

0:21:03.990,0:21:07.020
highlights are what some of your

0:21:05.100,0:21:13.320
favorite moments of a narco Vegas were

0:21:07.020,0:21:17.490
yeah well okay so the thing for me it

0:21:13.320,0:21:21.420
was having everyone come into my town so

0:21:17.490,0:21:24.270
like Vegas seems like a very town or big

0:21:21.420,0:21:27.360
city but it’s really not it’s very very

0:21:24.270,0:21:30.180
very small and so whenever someone flew

0:21:27.360,0:21:32.520
in you just felt good you’re like oh my

0:21:30.180,0:21:36.360
god I threw this conference in ninety

0:21:32.520,0:21:38.070
days and now all my favorite anarchists

0:21:36.360,0:21:40.320
and all these amazing people who want to

0:21:38.070,0:21:43.020
learn about Anarchy are flying to come

0:21:40.320,0:21:44.820
to Vegas to come to my conference you

0:21:43.020,0:21:46.020
know like that was amazing just having

0:21:44.820,0:21:47.900
the people here so that was a huge

0:21:46.020,0:21:50.340
highlight for me

0:21:47.900,0:21:52.470
Larkin roses candles in the dark we

0:21:50.340,0:21:53.430
threw a free Ross party to raise money

0:21:52.470,0:21:54.700
for Ross Ulbricht

0:21:53.430,0:21:59.379
right

0:21:54.700,0:22:01.960
that was amazing really like I was a

0:21:59.379,0:22:04.539
like so I remember when so the Silk Road

0:22:01.960,0:22:06.220
thing went down and I remember hearing

0:22:04.539,0:22:10.239
about I was like this guy he’s done not

0:22:06.220,0:22:12.700
like he he built a platform that was in

0:22:10.239,0:22:14.799
that was all he did he wasn’t condoning

0:22:12.700,0:22:17.320
any of the stuff he wasn’t condoning

0:22:14.799,0:22:20.470
anything he just he built a craigslist

0:22:17.320,0:22:22.480
or something yeah he built a crazy idea

0:22:20.470,0:22:24.190
he took an idea and put it into action

0:22:22.480,0:22:27.669
and they gave him two life sentences

0:22:24.190,0:22:31.029
plus 40 years all right and everybody

0:22:27.669,0:22:32.859
else that was involved in that none of

0:22:31.029,0:22:33.820
them got anything close to it and I

0:22:32.859,0:22:36.489
don’t think he should have gotten

0:22:33.820,0:22:38.440
anything he did and I’m not condoning

0:22:36.489,0:22:41.619
throwing drug dealers in prison by any

0:22:38.440,0:22:44.049
means no god no the drug dealers on the

0:22:41.619,0:22:46.899
Silk Road only got 10 10 years right and

0:22:44.049,0:22:49.539
it’s in a cage he if he does not get

0:22:46.899,0:22:51.609
clemency he he will die in prison you

0:22:49.539,0:22:52.509
know and that’s terribly that’s that’s a

0:22:51.609,0:22:54.700
tragedy

0:22:52.509,0:22:58.090
it’s really sad I’m gonna cry I might

0:22:54.700,0:23:00.730
cry he’s been that I believe he’s been

0:22:58.090,0:23:05.289
locked up for just over 2000 days at

0:23:00.730,0:23:08.019
this point and it’s his Fourth Amendment

0:23:05.289,0:23:09.519
was violated he like they did a legal

0:23:08.019,0:23:12.460
warrant search of legal warrant taps

0:23:09.519,0:23:16.389
they violated his privacy they destroyed

0:23:12.460,0:23:17.980
his freedom of speech they crushed his

0:23:16.389,0:23:19.690
jury trial like they didn’t introduce

0:23:17.980,0:23:24.879
stuff to the jury and the judge just

0:23:19.690,0:23:26.409
ruled on that entire trial is it’s the

0:23:24.879,0:23:27.669
government at work like they just were

0:23:26.409,0:23:29.710
like no this is what we’re doing because

0:23:27.669,0:23:31.869
we have to make an example so we don’t

0:23:29.710,0:23:34.179
care about any of those 10 things we’ve

0:23:31.869,0:23:35.369
promised that we won’t do yeah don’t

0:23:34.179,0:23:49.679
create a website

0:23:35.369,0:23:51.519
don’t encourage free trade right and I

0:23:49.679,0:23:52.509
mean basically what the government

0:23:51.519,0:23:54.100
saying is you need to create like a

0:23:52.509,0:23:56.649
Facebook which I’m just gonna say now

0:23:54.100,0:23:58.509
fuck Facebook and YouTube just fuck them

0:23:56.649,0:23:59.799
both this is why my parents find me a

0:23:58.509,0:24:07.359
disappointment cuz I say things like

0:23:59.799,0:24:08.419
that yeah just middle fingers all over

0:24:07.359,0:24:11.359
the place towards facebooking

0:24:08.419,0:24:15.379
YouTube they’re gonna pull this one so

0:24:11.359,0:24:20.149
fast I know but that’s okay because I’m

0:24:15.379,0:24:21.649
on float now so did you did you create

0:24:20.149,0:24:23.600
float are you one of the creators of

0:24:21.649,0:24:27.350
float one the founders of float I I

0:24:23.600,0:24:29.149
meant to ask you that beforehand yeah so

0:24:27.350,0:24:31.429
uh before and you’re like founder I

0:24:29.149,0:24:34.159
thought you’re gonna say I’m actually

0:24:31.429,0:24:36.499
I’m the community manager for so

0:24:34.159,0:24:41.450
founders are actually my my boyfriend

0:24:36.499,0:24:44.659
Kingsley okay and our developer and our

0:24:41.450,0:24:46.460
CTO so they are the considered the

0:24:44.659,0:24:48.649
founders I don’t know why I said that

0:24:46.460,0:24:51.980
with a Midwestern accent what’s weird um

0:24:48.649,0:24:55.009
but yeah so I do community management so

0:24:51.980,0:24:56.690
I run the social and I basically take

0:24:55.009,0:24:59.210
care of all the issues that come in

0:24:56.690,0:25:00.980
through our support email and okay and

0:24:59.210,0:25:06.950
how long like how long has float been

0:25:00.980,0:25:09.230
around float was an idea this past

0:25:06.950,0:25:12.559
January in February and so we actually

0:25:09.230,0:25:15.350
just launched the day of an ARCA Vegas

0:25:12.559,0:25:17.239
so we live stream and our Vegas and then

0:25:15.350,0:25:19.639
it’s just been full steam ahead there so

0:25:17.239,0:25:20.960
not only was it crazy enough planning a

0:25:19.639,0:25:22.700
conference in ninety days that we were

0:25:20.960,0:25:23.899
also launching our twenties right I was

0:25:22.700,0:25:25.960
gonna say but you’re also launching a

0:25:23.899,0:25:29.869
social media network at the same time

0:25:25.960,0:25:33.529
yeah I drank a little I could imagine

0:25:29.869,0:25:35.179
I could imagine yeah so you you told me

0:25:33.529,0:25:38.210
about flow when I was freaking out about

0:25:35.179,0:25:41.029
us getting kicked off of YouTube which

0:25:38.210,0:25:43.399
we were we got that overturn so yeah

0:25:41.029,0:25:45.769
we’re back we’re back on YouTube but

0:25:43.399,0:25:50.299
well you know yeah until they see this

0:25:45.769,0:25:51.559
video but so we were always stressed out

0:25:50.299,0:25:53.539
and then you’re like yeah you should

0:25:51.559,0:25:55.820
join float so I went on float joined it

0:25:53.539,0:25:57.200
immediately and figured it out love the

0:25:55.820,0:25:59.539
fact that you got live streaming that’s

0:25:57.200,0:26:01.460
great one question I have to ask is

0:25:59.539,0:26:03.679
there a way to archive it so we can

0:26:01.460,0:26:08.210
embed to float as opposed to YouTube

0:26:03.679,0:26:09.470
that is it’s coming awesome yeah that’s

0:26:08.210,0:26:13.519
something that we’re really trying to

0:26:09.470,0:26:15.169
push out especially like with an

0:26:13.519,0:26:16.460
arkadelphia right on around the corner

0:26:15.169,0:26:18.919
like they’re gonna be using float to

0:26:16.460,0:26:19.940
livestream is also we definitely want to

0:26:18.919,0:26:21.350
be able to

0:26:19.940,0:26:23.720
push that out as soon as we can but

0:26:21.350,0:26:24.920
we’re working on it cool yeah cuz we so

0:26:23.720,0:26:27.770
we’ve been live streaming all of our

0:26:24.920,0:26:30.380
shows to float as well as YouTube and

0:26:27.770,0:26:32.510
Facebook and Twitter and we’ve want to

0:26:30.380,0:26:35.930
embed float as opposed to any of those

0:26:32.510,0:26:37.280
companies on our web site but we can’t

0:26:35.930,0:26:40.400
yet so I figured I would just ask you

0:26:37.280,0:26:41.960
about I had you here know and it’s in

0:26:40.400,0:26:44.360
floats great because you you know they

0:26:41.960,0:26:47.090
we don’t get shadow band which we are on

0:26:44.360,0:26:49.580
Facebook you won’t be on us which

0:26:47.090,0:26:51.380
YouTube did and Twitter hasn’t hit us

0:26:49.580,0:26:53.600
yet so we’ll see what Twitter does to us

0:26:51.380,0:26:54.860
and not only that but there’s really no

0:26:53.600,0:26:57.590
algorithm that you have to overcome

0:26:54.860,0:26:59.720
right that’s the other great thing about

0:26:57.590,0:27:03.230
it like it everything shows up in order

0:26:59.720,0:27:06.080
it seems yeah and the thing I really

0:27:03.230,0:27:10.000
like about our platform as well so like

0:27:06.080,0:27:13.040
our goal is yeah to provide a place for

0:27:10.000,0:27:17.720
alternative voices to come but we also

0:27:13.040,0:27:19.640
want to cater towards other parties as

0:27:17.720,0:27:21.410
well so people who hold other beliefs

0:27:19.640,0:27:23.030
other than anarchism and libertarianism

0:27:21.410,0:27:24.230
you know we don’t we don’t want to

0:27:23.030,0:27:26.840
become an echo chamber and I hate when

0:27:24.230,0:27:28.910
people use that term because if you are

0:27:26.840,0:27:30.230
in the anarchist movement you know for a

0:27:28.910,0:27:32.570
fact that it is not an echo chamber

0:27:30.230,0:27:33.890
because there are so many opinions that

0:27:32.570,0:27:35.590
conflict with each other like it’s not

0:27:33.890,0:27:37.310
it’s not like you walk into a room of

0:27:35.590,0:27:39.620
libertarians or anarchists and

0:27:37.310,0:27:42.290
everything is don’t you do you know like

0:27:39.620,0:27:43.910
it’s there are conflicting opinions so

0:27:42.290,0:27:45.380
there’s it’s never really an echo

0:27:43.910,0:27:49.490
chamber but we want to be able to cater

0:27:45.380,0:27:51.980
outside of our network um to go there so

0:27:49.490,0:27:56.030
but the thing that comes with that are

0:27:51.980,0:27:57.950
the people who are going to beg us to

0:27:56.030,0:27:59.810
ban you because they don’t want to hear

0:27:57.950,0:28:02.240
your or see your opinion right and

0:27:59.810,0:28:05.990
coming on our platform that is really

0:28:02.240,0:28:08.060
neat it’s customizable blockless so that

0:28:05.990,0:28:09.230
person can just like go through and

0:28:08.060,0:28:10.370
block whoever they want and they can

0:28:09.230,0:28:16.130
share it with their friends and be like

0:28:10.370,0:28:19.730
look these people are Nazis here’s my

0:28:16.130,0:28:21.200
blockless you know whatever yeah I would

0:28:19.730,0:28:22.760
probably end up on that list I get

0:28:21.200,0:28:24.110
called that pretty often just because I

0:28:22.760,0:28:26.480
think that you have the right to say

0:28:24.110,0:28:30.200
whatever you want to say called I got

0:28:26.480,0:28:30.800
called a Nazi for standing up to someone

0:28:30.200,0:28:33.350
on

0:28:30.800,0:28:35.870
Twitter who’s like a Vegas local page

0:28:33.350,0:28:39.110
right so they like influence all the all

0:28:35.870,0:28:42.470
the locals in Las Vegas and they said

0:28:39.110,0:28:43.880
they posted something they’re like well

0:28:42.470,0:28:46.160
have you seen not you today make sure

0:28:43.880,0:28:49.370
you punch him in the face and I’ll

0:28:46.160,0:28:51.920
comment it back and I said really

0:28:49.370,0:28:53.810
advocating for the biggest locals to

0:28:51.920,0:28:55.130
start punching people like you’re

0:28:53.810,0:28:56.840
inciting violence you’re inciting

0:28:55.130,0:28:57.890
violence on people that you don’t even

0:28:56.840,0:28:59.960
know what they stand

0:28:57.890,0:29:02.390
oh these people are like you’re

0:28:59.960,0:29:03.860
advocating someone to walk up to another

0:29:02.390,0:29:06.590
person and punch them in the face like

0:29:03.860,0:29:08.840
you don’t see any and like this cage had

0:29:06.590,0:29:11.330
thousands of likes and thousands of

0:29:08.840,0:29:15.890
followers yeah they were like fucking

0:29:11.330,0:29:17.390
Nazis just like because because I don’t

0:29:15.890,0:29:18.920
want random people getting hit because

0:29:17.390,0:29:21.740
you don’t like what they’re saying or

0:29:18.920,0:29:25.280
wearing yeah I was just like this is

0:29:21.740,0:29:27.740
crazy I’ve never been called a Nazi in

0:29:25.280,0:29:29.810
my life I am the furthest thing from a

0:29:27.740,0:29:30.680
Nazi it’s just these people are out of

0:29:29.810,0:29:32.780
control

0:29:30.680,0:29:36.680
it’s really really out of their mind you

0:29:32.780,0:29:43.630
know it’s okay to call people Nazis but

0:29:36.680,0:29:44.960
don’t ever call an Italian Fredo yes I

0:29:43.630,0:29:48.650
like that

0:29:44.960,0:29:50.210
everything about this about the new way

0:29:48.650,0:29:51.320
that we now have to talk to each other

0:29:50.210,0:29:53.510
and what’s offensive and what’s not

0:29:51.320,0:29:56.180
offensive is it makes me have to defend

0:29:53.510,0:30:00.430
the president that I don’t like mm-hmm

0:29:56.180,0:30:02.480
I’m like he’s not a Nazi he’s not I mean

0:30:00.430,0:30:04.040
sure I get the argument for

0:30:02.480,0:30:07.990
concentration camps at the border sure I

0:30:04.040,0:30:11.690
can see how you make that parallel but

0:30:07.990,0:30:14.180
it also started under Obama right yeah

0:30:11.690,0:30:18.470
and you know based on laws created by

0:30:14.180,0:30:21.800
Clinton so you know yeah sure I can see

0:30:18.470,0:30:25.670
the comparison but he’s not creating a

0:30:21.800,0:30:27.620
genocide of millions of people please

0:30:25.670,0:30:29.300
please take my guns away

0:30:27.620,0:30:30.710
please take my guns way yeah you’re

0:30:29.300,0:30:32.240
talking about the concentration camps on

0:30:30.710,0:30:36.860
the border but you’re saying that we

0:30:32.240,0:30:39.440
shouldn’t own guns okay but sense hey

0:30:36.860,0:30:42.160
you know sometimes point one plus two

0:30:39.440,0:30:44.510
equals over one plus one equals three I

0:30:42.160,0:30:48.169
guess

0:30:44.510,0:30:51.290
that’s it makes no sense makes no sense

0:30:48.169,0:30:54.919
to me so you were telling me a little

0:30:51.290,0:30:56.929
bit beforehand I get to say fuck Pam

0:30:54.919,0:30:59.780
Bondi again cuz that’s just always a fun

0:30:56.929,0:31:01.940
sentence to say but you were saying that

0:30:59.780,0:31:03.919
you had something against my former

0:31:01.940,0:31:08.210
attorney general here in the state of

0:31:03.919,0:31:09.980
Florida and again fuck Pam Bondi but do

0:31:08.210,0:31:13.280
you want to talk about that a little bit

0:31:09.980,0:31:17.049
yeah sure yeah so Kingsley’s dad

0:31:13.280,0:31:20.540
actually has been locked up and is

0:31:17.049,0:31:25.040
serving a prison sentence it’s actually

0:31:20.540,0:31:28.880
a 60-year sentence and it is a he’s

0:31:25.040,0:31:33.320
served 27 years so far was really no end

0:31:28.880,0:31:35.390
in sight and his crime was eight hundred

0:31:33.320,0:31:38.809
and fifty dollars worth of cocaine sold

0:31:35.390,0:31:45.890
to his ex-girlfriend who turned into an

0:31:38.809,0:31:48.400
FBI informant yeah it was his it was his

0:31:45.890,0:31:53.720
third strike and it was in the early 90s

0:31:48.400,0:31:58.820
and so okay so $850 I don’t care I don’t

0:31:53.720,0:32:03.620
know that in early 90s one hundred eight

0:31:58.820,0:32:07.880
hundred and ninety man in today’s lingo

0:32:03.620,0:32:09.140
that’s like five eight balls in today’s

0:32:07.880,0:32:12.860
lingo I don’t know what that is in the

0:32:09.140,0:32:15.620
early 90s lingo I can’t I don’t know

0:32:12.860,0:32:17.780
either I really I don’t think it was I

0:32:15.620,0:32:19.400
don’t think it was a lot right I was

0:32:17.780,0:32:22.040
gonna say I’m not sure if cocaine was

0:32:19.400,0:32:23.929
more expensive than it is now or like

0:32:22.040,0:32:25.370
we’ve got inflation on cocaine now

0:32:23.929,0:32:26.690
compared to what it would have been like

0:32:25.370,0:32:28.820
I’m not really sure how the market

0:32:26.690,0:32:32.419
worked on that I know it was a

0:32:28.820,0:32:35.510
relatively small amount but it’s just it

0:32:32.419,0:32:39.980
was crazy he was just he was at his home

0:32:35.510,0:32:42.110
and she asked asked for a cocaine and he

0:32:39.980,0:32:45.530
wasn’t really doing it or selling it

0:32:42.110,0:32:49.880
much you know at all anymore and then

0:32:45.530,0:32:53.090
she asked for it and he went to go get

0:32:49.880,0:32:54.169
it and he came back to place in his home

0:32:53.090,0:32:56.750
arrest him

0:32:54.169,0:32:59.510
that is absolutely insane

0:32:56.750,0:33:00.860
it’s really something you’ve got okay

0:32:59.510,0:33:01.610
sorry go ahead

0:33:00.860,0:33:04.280
I was gonna say you’ve got the

0:33:01.610,0:33:05.870
entrapment angle used his ex-girlfriend

0:33:04.280,0:33:08.150
against him was he was it his

0:33:05.870,0:33:10.010
ex-girlfriend at the time or no it was

0:33:08.150,0:33:12.650
his ex-girlfriend at the time she wanted

0:33:10.010,0:33:14.210
to marry him and and he wouldn’t do it

0:33:12.650,0:33:18.320
and so I think that there was that

0:33:14.210,0:33:23.900
little revenge mindset she actually

0:33:18.320,0:33:25.520
later on killed herself I’m not gonna

0:33:23.900,0:33:28.100
make the joke that just went into my

0:33:25.520,0:33:30.590
head because that would have been really

0:33:28.100,0:33:33.549
tasteless but I’m certainly anybody out

0:33:30.590,0:33:39.830
there can guess what I just thought

0:33:33.549,0:33:41.120
because yeah but yeah so I mean it’s

0:33:39.830,0:33:43.669
kind of a crazy story

0:33:41.120,0:33:49.150
uh but yeah he’s been he’s served about

0:33:43.669,0:33:52.580
26 27 years so far and there have been

0:33:49.150,0:33:56.090
times where the clemency board who his

0:33:52.580,0:33:59.830
budget is one two three million dollars

0:33:56.090,0:34:01.880
I don’t know this number specific number

0:33:59.830,0:34:03.710
they have a budget of that amount and

0:34:01.880,0:34:04.880
they were five years backlogged when we

0:34:03.710,0:34:09.200
were trying to figure out when they

0:34:04.880,0:34:11.300
would get to his clemency file and so

0:34:09.200,0:34:13.970
there they would tell us you know he you

0:34:11.300,0:34:16.520
have to wait until we can catch up to

0:34:13.970,0:34:19.460
his file so I think they finally caught

0:34:16.520,0:34:24.020
up to his file either last year this

0:34:19.460,0:34:26.599
year um like Kingsley flew to Florida he

0:34:24.020,0:34:30.800
went to I think it was like Tallahassee

0:34:26.599,0:34:33.589
and like they asked the family does

0:34:30.800,0:34:36.169
Michael have any support if he gets out

0:34:33.589,0:34:38.839
you know like does he have Bob lined up

0:34:36.169,0:34:43.280
where we lived that kind of thing and so

0:34:38.839,0:34:46.849
it seemed like a very light bright at

0:34:43.280,0:34:50.119
the end of the tunnel however nothing

0:34:46.849,0:34:51.830
ever happened after that and so and then

0:34:50.119,0:34:53.149
they had another one of those this past

0:34:51.830,0:34:56.300
year and it’s kind of like you just had

0:34:53.149,0:34:58.550
to roll your eyes like everything you

0:34:56.300,0:35:01.580
know he had a place to go a job to go to

0:34:58.550,0:35:03.950
you know like he had family support he’s

0:35:01.580,0:35:07.190
a changed man you know right I mean

0:35:03.950,0:35:09.740
after 20 after 27 years like it for a

0:35:07.190,0:35:10.060
small amount of cocaine like we’re we’re

0:35:09.740,0:35:11.680
not

0:35:10.060,0:35:13.420
talking about kilos at this point we’re

0:35:11.680,0:35:18.100
talking about grams we’re talking about

0:35:13.420,0:35:21.910
miniature amounts of gram and to put

0:35:18.100,0:35:26.470
somebody away for 60 years for what I’ve

0:35:21.910,0:35:28.810
done in a good weekend is insane yeah

0:35:26.470,0:35:31.690
it’s real it’s horrible you know real it

0:35:28.810,0:35:34.300
sucks and so what we’ve been trying to

0:35:31.690,0:35:38.170
do is raise money we’ve been trying to

0:35:34.300,0:35:40.720
you know talk to legislators we’ve

0:35:38.170,0:35:45.370
talked to prosecutors we’ve talked to

0:35:40.720,0:35:49.210
like the sentencing judge literally came

0:35:45.370,0:35:51.220
or no sorry the DA the DA who who put

0:35:49.210,0:35:54.580
him in jail for 60 years even wrote a

0:35:51.220,0:35:57.130
letter to Governor Scott at the time and

0:35:54.580,0:35:59.880
said Michael does not deserve to be in

0:35:57.130,0:36:05.350
prison I think he has served his time

0:35:59.880,0:36:08.380
let him out and nothing and Skeletor did

0:36:05.350,0:36:11.920
nothing yeah that’s very Skeletor like

0:36:08.380,0:36:13.690
because you know he he has like some

0:36:11.920,0:36:15.280
something to do with the private prisons

0:36:13.690,0:36:19.270
as well as the drug testing that every

0:36:15.280,0:36:24.190
government employee has to take which he

0:36:19.270,0:36:26.620
is and now he’s my senator I was crazy

0:36:24.190,0:36:30.670
during this last election I was really

0:36:26.620,0:36:33.160
conflicted because the the Republican

0:36:30.670,0:36:35.980
one in your state right yeah but the

0:36:33.160,0:36:39.460
Democrat was really the Democratic

0:36:35.980,0:36:43.570
nominee was really good on prison reform

0:36:39.460,0:36:45.160
he so yeah he was I am blanking on his

0:36:43.570,0:36:47.610
name right now he was good on prison

0:36:45.160,0:36:52.390
reform and I really liked him for that

0:36:47.610,0:36:55.780
right but everything else I was like

0:36:52.390,0:36:58.240
he’s gonna be so bad yeah yeah no I

0:36:55.780,0:37:02.140
totally agree and I was I was just so

0:36:58.240,0:37:04.090
conflicted because I was honestly like I

0:37:02.140,0:37:06.520
don’t want to say this but I really do

0:37:04.090,0:37:09.040
believe that if he was elected it would

0:37:06.520,0:37:12.460
have been good for us to like to help

0:37:09.040,0:37:15.130
get Mike out of prison right and I knew

0:37:12.460,0:37:18.010
that the Republican nominee or candidate

0:37:15.130,0:37:18.430
DeSantis error about prison reform at

0:37:18.010,0:37:20.980
all

0:37:18.430,0:37:23.710
soda say so DeSantis is really weird um

0:37:20.980,0:37:25.540
I feel like he does

0:37:23.710,0:37:27.010
care about prison reform but he cares

0:37:25.540,0:37:29.290
about so many other things first he’s

0:37:27.010,0:37:32.650
actually like as far as governor’s go

0:37:29.290,0:37:34.480
from he’s not bad

0:37:32.650,0:37:36.849
he’s not the worst governor I’ve ever

0:37:34.480,0:37:39.720
seen like he’s done a lot to help out in

0:37:36.849,0:37:41.980
a lot of areas that definitely needed it

0:37:39.720,0:37:44.740
but he seems to be starting to fade like

0:37:41.980,0:37:46.570
he’s I think he’s so attached to the

0:37:44.740,0:37:48.400
Trump train right now because that’s

0:37:46.570,0:37:50.740
what got him elected then he’s kind of

0:37:48.400,0:37:52.150
having to follow a path in order to try

0:37:50.740,0:37:55.450
to get to the next step because I think

0:37:52.150,0:37:56.950
he’s going for president next I do yeah

0:37:55.450,0:37:58.960
I think he’s going to do two terms

0:37:56.950,0:38:00.750
governor here because he as long as

0:37:58.960,0:38:06.640
nothing changes he’s getting reelected

0:38:00.750,0:38:09.490
and that’ll bring him into 2026

0:38:06.640,0:38:15.520
I think 2026 so I think he’s planning on

0:38:09.490,0:38:18.940
like a 2032 run for president well I

0:38:15.520,0:38:23.230
mean all I can say is we haven’t had any

0:38:18.940,0:38:25.300
luck so far but I’m really hoping that

0:38:23.230,0:38:28.650
they can just process his clemency

0:38:25.300,0:38:31.119
request yeah if I used to work for

0:38:28.650,0:38:32.349
attorney general candidate Bill Wilson

0:38:31.119,0:38:34.390
for years libertarian ran for attorney

0:38:32.349,0:38:36.280
general first libertarian attorney

0:38:34.390,0:38:39.369
attorney general candidate in the states

0:38:36.280,0:38:41.140
in the United States and he worked on

0:38:39.369,0:38:42.250
stuff like that but unfortunately he’s

0:38:41.140,0:38:43.050
not in I don’t think he’s in the

0:38:42.250,0:38:45.880
business anymore

0:38:43.050,0:38:48.369
and if so I’d be like hey need your help

0:38:45.880,0:38:51.330
bill cuz you owe me so many favors right

0:38:48.369,0:38:55.180
now yeah it’s crazy that we talked to a

0:38:51.330,0:38:56.710
judge or something he wanted money he

0:38:55.180,0:38:59.349
was like I can talk to people

0:38:56.710,0:39:03.000
the you’re gonna have to pay me this

0:38:59.349,0:39:08.460
really this is like a bribe

0:39:03.000,0:39:08.460
sounds like extortion sounds legal

0:39:09.420,0:39:14.050
that’s weird you’re a judge I feel as

0:39:11.830,0:39:21.339
though you should be I don’t think he’s

0:39:14.050,0:39:22.690
a standing judge I mean you can call

0:39:21.339,0:39:29.680
that a consulting fee if he’s not a

0:39:22.690,0:39:32.380
judge anymore though so right so is

0:39:29.680,0:39:34.270
there so what can people do to like kid

0:39:32.380,0:39:35.910
should we write letters to our state

0:39:34.270,0:39:37.510
senators here in Florida or say

0:39:35.910,0:39:40.869
legislators source

0:39:37.510,0:39:44.650
if you take the time to write a letter

0:39:40.869,0:39:47.380
or an email to the clemency board of

0:39:44.650,0:39:49.960
Florida that would be ideal if you

0:39:47.380,0:39:52.660
simply don’t have the time to do that we

0:39:49.960,0:39:55.450
do have a petition that I can send you

0:39:52.660,0:40:03.700
and you can put up and like the link a

0:39:55.450,0:40:05.550
signature takes yeah maybe but not you

0:40:03.700,0:40:09.010
know that would really be appreciated

0:40:05.550,0:40:11.050
you know we’re really trying to gather

0:40:09.010,0:40:13.030
as many signatures as possible with

0:40:11.050,0:40:14.500
messages for you know there are tons and

0:40:13.030,0:40:18.369
tons and tons of people who are like

0:40:14.500,0:40:20.680
this is totally unjust let him Mel you

0:40:18.369,0:40:22.830
know like it taxpayer dollars that go

0:40:20.680,0:40:24.490
towards keeping him in prison is just

0:40:22.830,0:40:26.920
ludicrous

0:40:24.490,0:40:28.480
yet that’s that’s the big thing is

0:40:26.920,0:40:30.130
you’re keeping this guy in prison you’re

0:40:28.480,0:40:31.990
keeping this guy in prison for what

0:40:30.130,0:40:34.510
essentially sounds like about 15 grams

0:40:31.990,0:40:37.690
of cocaine just based on you know my

0:40:34.510,0:40:39.340
personal knowledge on things it sounds

0:40:37.690,0:40:41.160
like it’s about 15 grams of cocaine for

0:40:39.340,0:40:43.300
60 years

0:40:41.160,0:40:45.760
it’s what the average is seven hundred

0:40:43.300,0:40:47.830
and forty two dollars a day that you

0:40:45.760,0:40:49.000
have to spend on a prisoner in the

0:40:47.830,0:40:50.440
United States I’m not sure what Florida

0:40:49.000,0:40:51.790
is specifically but something like seven

0:40:50.440,0:40:57.609
hundred forty two dollars a day for

0:40:51.790,0:41:00.300
sixty years was actually never really

0:40:57.609,0:41:03.190
committed a violent crime he’s never

0:41:00.300,0:41:06.970
exactly somebody who’s never personal

0:41:03.190,0:41:09.280
performed yeah it’s crazy and you know

0:41:06.970,0:41:10.840
it’s funny because well it’s not funny

0:41:09.280,0:41:14.530
but it’s sad because you know he really

0:41:10.840,0:41:17.560
did go into prison with like a cocaine

0:41:14.530,0:41:20.410
addiction and instead of getting him

0:41:17.560,0:41:23.710
help he just fell and just kept him

0:41:20.410,0:41:25.420
there for 27 years you know like not

0:41:23.710,0:41:28.690
once did they ever offer him some sort

0:41:25.420,0:41:31.720
of program that’s absolutely insane I

0:41:28.690,0:41:37.180
mean the early 90s was that was a crazy

0:41:31.720,0:41:40.849
time for the Reagan Nancy Reagan just

0:41:37.180,0:41:43.400
say no campaign and you had George book

0:41:40.849,0:41:48.259
basically having that airfield and Mina

0:41:43.400,0:41:50.119
yeah I mean back in 1990 or something

0:41:48.259,0:41:52.220
like that yeah George Bush Senior George

0:41:50.119,0:41:53.989
Herbert Walker and he was on you know he

0:41:52.220,0:41:55.369
was on president or he was on he was on

0:41:53.989,0:41:56.809
president he was on television as

0:41:55.369,0:41:58.819
president he was talking about the crack

0:41:56.809,0:42:01.069
cocaine epidemic and he was like

0:41:58.819,0:42:02.479
somebody was buying crack just right

0:42:01.069,0:42:05.359
here across them from the White House

0:42:02.479,0:42:09.049
and they had you find out later that he

0:42:05.359,0:42:10.640
had switched he had told the DEA to

0:42:09.049,0:42:14.410
switch where the buyer was gonna happen

0:42:10.640,0:42:14.410
just so he could put that in the speech

0:42:17.380,0:42:23.150
smuggle drugs in from wherever I you

0:42:20.690,0:42:27.829
know from the CIA when the CIA and bring

0:42:23.150,0:42:32.450
it in and drop it off yeah I mean he’s

0:42:27.829,0:42:35.450
dead right yes I think yeah he recently

0:42:32.450,0:42:38.869
yeah he recently passed away and many

0:42:35.450,0:42:41.450
many of my Republican and statist

0:42:38.869,0:42:44.569
friends were sharing the video of George

0:42:41.450,0:42:46.309
W Bush giving the eulogy where he just

0:42:44.569,0:42:47.859
breaks down at the end and everybody’s

0:42:46.309,0:42:53.749
like it’s so touching and I was like

0:42:47.859,0:42:55.700
yeah I feel for him because his dad died

0:42:53.749,0:43:00.829
cuz that sucks I don’t want to deal with

0:42:55.700,0:43:02.420
it but it’s like when McCain died never

0:43:00.829,0:43:06.349
goes like oh you need to show respect I

0:43:02.420,0:43:12.229
was like do we yeah when McCain and I

0:43:06.349,0:43:15.680
was just like I was like one down really

0:43:12.229,0:43:16.130
it’s just I hate to celebrate someone’s

0:43:15.680,0:43:17.809
desk

0:43:16.130,0:43:19.940
you know because honestly that person

0:43:17.809,0:43:24.069
had family that lost somebody and that’s

0:43:19.940,0:43:27.650
terrible but when you’ve committed

0:43:24.069,0:43:29.960
atrocious evil acts like I my sympathy

0:43:27.650,0:43:32.420
kinda goes out the window like a famous

0:43:29.960,0:43:34.989
if a rapist dies are you going to sit

0:43:32.420,0:43:37.789
there and and more on the rapist yeah

0:43:34.989,0:43:41.359
yeah it was like when a president when a

0:43:37.789,0:43:43.190
when Obama was president and they killed

0:43:41.359,0:43:45.589
Osama bin Laden and he came on TV and

0:43:43.190,0:43:53.510
he’s like we killed Osama bin Laden and

0:43:45.589,0:43:56.480
whatever and I had a boyfriend

0:43:53.510,0:43:58.430
I thought I was gonna marry uh and he

0:43:56.480,0:44:02.710
was in Afghanistan at that time when

0:43:58.430,0:44:05.780
they caught Oh Bob or asama sorry

0:44:02.710,0:44:08.540
accordion flip I get it I watch it on TV

0:44:05.780,0:44:11.930
and I cried because I was so happy that

0:44:08.540,0:44:12.950
they caught I mean so I was at work I

0:44:11.930,0:44:16.040
was where I was living up in Tennessee

0:44:12.950,0:44:18.950
as a I was at work a pizza place up

0:44:16.040,0:44:20.930
there and they I think it was a Sunday

0:44:18.950,0:44:23.240
night and they cut the football games

0:44:20.930,0:44:24.440
and Obama came on I was like we’re

0:44:23.240,0:44:27.109
trying to watch football what are you

0:44:24.440,0:44:29.109
saying and he started saying that and

0:44:27.109,0:44:31.850
like a ton of people started cheering

0:44:29.109,0:44:33.170
ton of people started cheering and then

0:44:31.850,0:44:34.700
a bunch of other people were like how

0:44:33.170,0:44:38.030
can you cheer that’s a man’s life and I

0:44:34.700,0:44:46.490
was like yeah really

0:44:38.030,0:44:48.500
is it not really for the state-sponsored

0:44:46.490,0:44:51.350
murdering of somebody but at the same

0:44:48.500,0:44:53.840
time am I upset that guy’s gone nah not

0:44:51.350,0:44:57.020
even a little bit not gonna mourn Osama

0:44:53.840,0:44:59.510
bin Laden with you people not gonna

0:44:57.020,0:45:10.220
cheer his death but I’m not gonna mourn

0:44:59.510,0:45:17.300
him welcome onto my show for a brief

0:45:10.220,0:45:20.359
moment I know it’s a great name it’s a

0:45:17.300,0:45:23.630
great name it’s just a very royal name

0:45:20.359,0:45:30.560
it is a very royal name he is one of the

0:45:23.630,0:45:32.359
Kingsmen anyway sorry I yeah anyway but

0:45:30.560,0:45:34.850
yeah so yeah Osama bin Laden but that

0:45:32.359,0:45:40.580
that was like that was my real statist

0:45:34.850,0:45:42.290
moment yeah and then they threw him off

0:45:40.580,0:45:45.260
the helicopter into the ocean and I was

0:45:42.290,0:45:49.100
just like that makes absolutely no sense

0:45:45.260,0:45:52.910
why would you okay sure I was wanted guy

0:45:49.100,0:45:54.650
ever and you just assigned just pushing

0:45:52.910,0:45:56.480
out here yeah you’re just gonna push him

0:45:54.650,0:45:58.010
we’re just gonna push him out and have

0:45:56.480,0:46:00.470
him just fall all the way to the bottom

0:45:58.010,0:46:02.180
of the Atlantic Ocean here and nobody

0:46:00.470,0:46:03.770
will ever have to find out about him

0:46:02.180,0:46:05.240
ever again

0:46:03.770,0:46:07.580
yeah and it just so happens that the

0:46:05.240,0:46:09.500
seal team that got him like a lot of

0:46:07.580,0:46:14.030
them died from a helicopter crash a

0:46:09.500,0:46:15.920
couple of weeks later yeah I mean we’re

0:46:14.030,0:46:19.370
incident coincidence you know Jeffrey

0:46:15.920,0:46:26.180
Epstein you know he definitely killed

0:46:19.370,0:46:28.160
himself I know that it could possibly

0:46:26.180,0:46:33.740
have been fabricated in any way shape or

0:46:28.160,0:46:35.420
form yeah that one

0:46:33.740,0:46:37.040
I think spike and I are gonna record

0:46:35.420,0:46:40.330
something later and I’m certain that’s

0:46:37.040,0:46:45.530
coming up because it’s crazy because I

0:46:40.330,0:46:47.810
who are really upset that he died um you

0:46:45.530,0:46:49.580
know because the truth is suppressed but

0:46:47.810,0:46:51.230
at the end of the day while the truth is

0:46:49.580,0:46:53.570
suppressed and the elites are still

0:46:51.230,0:46:58.250
still in power you know what I mean

0:46:53.570,0:47:01.580
right I never ever experienced the

0:46:58.250,0:47:06.020
skepticism that like if you ask people

0:47:01.580,0:47:08.150
on the right Clinton didn’t last Trump

0:47:06.020,0:47:10.700
did it you know so like I’ve never

0:47:08.150,0:47:12.530
experienced such a time where so many of

0:47:10.700,0:47:15.170
the American people are skeptics right

0:47:12.530,0:47:17.060
that is great that is actually the

0:47:15.170,0:47:20.420
greatest thing it’s I saw a poll

0:47:17.060,0:47:21.800
recently where and I have no idea how

0:47:20.420,0:47:23.750
valid this was it could have been a meme

0:47:21.800,0:47:26.690
somebody made but I’m going with it as

0:47:23.750,0:47:28.490
though it’s factual it was like 22

0:47:26.690,0:47:30.260
percent of people trust the Epstein

0:47:28.490,0:47:34.460
autopsy well twenty four percent trust

0:47:30.260,0:47:36.230
gas station sushi I don’t know if this

0:47:34.460,0:47:38.180
is real but that’s probably accurate

0:47:36.230,0:47:41.140
like I would eat gas station sushi

0:47:38.180,0:47:45.680
before I’m swallowing this Epstein

0:47:41.140,0:47:48.530
autopsy because no no I love that I like

0:47:45.680,0:47:51.140
I seriously I think that it gives me

0:47:48.530,0:47:52.940
hope even if the elites are still in

0:47:51.140,0:47:54.290
power and that sucks and people are

0:47:52.940,0:47:57.800
still going to be suicided by the

0:47:54.290,0:48:00.290
Clintons more and more people are waking

0:47:57.800,0:48:02.780
up to the fact that that kind of tyranny

0:48:00.290,0:48:06.050
exists whether it’s Trump or the

0:48:02.780,0:48:07.370
Clintons whatever um form to me like

0:48:06.050,0:48:10.280
they’re both they’re one of the same

0:48:07.370,0:48:11.750
right yeah I mean anybody that’s

0:48:10.280,0:48:13.520
empowered whether whether it’s the

0:48:11.750,0:48:15.170
Bush’s the Clintons the Reagan’s when

0:48:13.520,0:48:15.800
they were I don’t think they’re still

0:48:15.170,0:48:18.470
around

0:48:15.800,0:48:19.610
but you know the Trump’s whichever

0:48:18.470,0:48:21.680
party’s gonna be coming next the

0:48:19.610,0:48:23.480
Kennedys seem to be like rebranding

0:48:21.680,0:48:27.800
their whole thing with a little

0:48:23.480,0:48:31.400
redheaded semi off dude somewhere on the

0:48:27.800,0:48:36.050
spectrum I can’t remember Joe Kennedy I

0:48:31.400,0:48:37.310
think I all of these parties all of like

0:48:36.050,0:48:39.020
all of these people all of these

0:48:37.310,0:48:40.370
families all of them are corrupt you

0:48:39.020,0:48:42.590
don’t get to that position of power

0:48:40.370,0:48:45.560
without being corrupt and without doing

0:48:42.590,0:48:46.610
things that you and I and most of the

0:48:45.560,0:48:49.190
people watching this would find

0:48:46.610,0:48:53.360
absolutely horrendous you don’t do it

0:48:49.190,0:48:55.700
it’s impossible to do absolute power

0:48:53.360,0:48:57.950
corrupts absolutely every single one of

0:48:55.700,0:49:00.320
those people has been corrupted at some

0:48:57.950,0:49:02.840
point in their lifetimes and we’re just

0:49:00.320,0:49:06.560
supposed to be like now like President

0:49:02.840,0:49:08.900
Trump recently coming out and saying he

0:49:06.560,0:49:10.940
is the chosen one or the next the second

0:49:08.900,0:49:13.130
coming of God or whatever that was

0:49:10.940,0:49:14.960
granted he was quoting somebody else and

0:49:13.130,0:49:22.160
I will say that he was quoting somebody

0:49:14.960,0:49:25.640
else but you repeated it so right

0:49:22.160,0:49:27.200
exactly you repeated it there there is

0:49:25.640,0:49:29.270
nobody that’s in any sort of power that

0:49:27.200,0:49:31.250
I am like yeah you got there

0:49:29.270,0:49:34.040
legitimately like City Council’s yes

0:49:31.250,0:49:36.020
sure you got voted in by the nine people

0:49:34.040,0:49:39.350
that showed up that day congratulations

0:49:36.020,0:49:41.330
but outside outside of that if you’re a

0:49:39.350,0:49:45.080
president if you’re a senator if you’re

0:49:41.330,0:49:46.700
whatever you got there and at some point

0:49:45.080,0:49:49.070
you did something that your conscience

0:49:46.700,0:49:54.830
went no you should not do this but you

0:49:49.070,0:49:56.870
did it anyway it definitely is like

0:49:54.830,0:49:59.150
that’s dark you know like no matter what

0:49:56.870,0:50:03.710
way you spin it that is freaking dark

0:49:59.150,0:50:08.030
but again like my I do have hope that

0:50:03.710,0:50:09.530
the world will turn around and honestly

0:50:08.030,0:50:13.610
I don’t think I don’t think there have

0:50:09.530,0:50:17.900
been more woke people know there

0:50:13.610,0:50:19.700
anything living in a very new time we

0:50:17.900,0:50:21.710
are it’s actually it like like we were

0:50:19.700,0:50:24.110
saying earlier it’s a very exciting it’s

0:50:21.710,0:50:26.510
a very exciting time people are starting

0:50:24.110,0:50:27.740
to question everything yeah people are

0:50:26.510,0:50:29.240
starting to look at everything from

0:50:27.740,0:50:30.830
different angles and then

0:50:29.240,0:50:33.230
thanks to you know thanks to the

0:50:30.830,0:50:34.640
internet being what it is not Facebook

0:50:33.230,0:50:36.080
and YouTube obviously but you know

0:50:34.640,0:50:38.030
thanks to being able to get information

0:50:36.080,0:50:41.090
from multiple sources where you’re not

0:50:38.030,0:50:42.619
banned people are able to look at things

0:50:41.090,0:50:44.240
from different angles and form their own

0:50:42.619,0:50:45.619
opinions and you’re not listening to

0:50:44.240,0:50:50.210
Brokaw just telling you that’s the way

0:50:45.619,0:50:52.250
it is Hong Kong is a perfect example

0:50:50.210,0:50:53.540
like that started because they were

0:50:52.250,0:50:56.720
afraid that they were gonna be

0:50:53.540,0:51:01.460
extradited to the mainland of China for

0:50:56.720,0:51:04.040
being political adversaries and now

0:51:01.460,0:51:09.110
they’re fighting for all sorts of rights

0:51:04.040,0:51:10.820
like like okay I would never like are

0:51:09.110,0:51:14.660
they fighting for democracy I think you

0:51:10.820,0:51:16.820
know democracy is awful I’m not a fan of

0:51:14.660,0:51:19.960
democracy I’m not a fan of democracy but

0:51:16.820,0:51:22.520
I’d take it over communism a hundred

0:51:19.960,0:51:25.670
exactly and so you know but the fact

0:51:22.520,0:51:27.650
that like they want guns and and they

0:51:25.670,0:51:30.110
want you know the Second Amendment right

0:51:27.650,0:51:31.940
whatever like that’s that’s pretty

0:51:30.110,0:51:33.650
fuckin amazing cuz I’ve been looking

0:51:31.940,0:51:36.920
I’ve honestly I’ve been looking for

0:51:33.650,0:51:39.320
places to move out of the United States

0:51:36.920,0:51:43.580
but the Second Amendment is such an

0:51:39.320,0:51:45.800
important exception you know and so when

0:51:43.580,0:51:48.980
you look actively look for places to

0:51:45.800,0:51:51.440
move that supports that right where you

0:51:48.980,0:51:55.940
can bring your guns and not be thrown in

0:51:51.440,0:51:57.410
a Thai prison or wherever you are you

0:51:55.940,0:51:59.180
know like if they’re not there are not

0:51:57.410,0:52:01.010
many places out there where you can do

0:51:59.180,0:52:03.140
that right so I love I love that Hong

0:52:01.010,0:52:07.270
Kong is like people are waking up and

0:52:03.140,0:52:11.150
they’re rising above and trying to beg

0:52:07.270,0:52:13.100
with their lives for those rights yeah

0:52:11.150,0:52:16.550
absolutely like huh what’s going on in

0:52:13.100,0:52:18.350
Hong Kong actually gives me it gives me

0:52:16.550,0:52:19.550
hope for a lot of things in the future

0:52:18.350,0:52:22.810
because people are actually standing up

0:52:19.550,0:52:25.130
and fighting for what they think that is

0:52:22.810,0:52:27.680
1776 America’s what’s going on in Hong

0:52:25.130,0:52:33.070
Kong right now just with a lot cooler

0:52:27.680,0:52:35.630
stuff will have more mainstream things I

0:52:33.070,0:52:36.710
if that sparks something somewhere else

0:52:35.630,0:52:37.700
in the world which sparks something

0:52:36.710,0:52:39.530
somewhere else in the world and people

0:52:37.700,0:52:40.700
start standing up and fighting for their

0:52:39.530,0:52:42.490
freedoms which they right now

0:52:40.700,0:52:44.980
incorrectly think comes from democra

0:52:42.490,0:52:47.230
see but they will then learn okay this

0:52:44.980,0:52:48.670
isn’t the right thing either but that

0:52:47.230,0:52:49.840
could eventually spark something where

0:52:48.670,0:52:51.700
we’re like you know what we don’t even

0:52:49.840,0:52:54.010
need the government because we all have

0:52:51.700,0:52:57.610
the ability to rule ourselves

0:52:54.010,0:53:00.610
individually I mean if my street needs a

0:52:57.610,0:53:01.930
new road we I’m certain well probably

0:53:00.610,0:53:08.260
not this street actually I got a lot of

0:53:01.930,0:53:10.720
Bernie supporters but hey you know

0:53:08.260,0:53:12.610
there’s a big pothole I’ve seen your car

0:53:10.720,0:53:14.140
go over it and kind of you know get a

0:53:12.610,0:53:16.180
little damage I’m sure your suspension

0:53:14.140,0:53:18.520
is being screwed up by every time you do

0:53:16.180,0:53:20.410
that a bunch of us are going to be

0:53:18.520,0:53:23.710
working and kind of feeling Apollo would

0:53:20.410,0:53:26.440
you like to join me 95 percent of the

0:53:23.710,0:53:28.660
time that person will probably be like

0:53:26.440,0:53:32.080
oh my gosh that’s amazing or good on you

0:53:28.660,0:53:34.210
yeah great I actually 10 or I can’t but

0:53:32.080,0:53:36.030
hey here’s 10 bucks right exactly

0:53:34.210,0:53:38.619
they’ll check they will check any only

0:53:36.030,0:53:41.140
people are inherently good I absolutely

0:53:38.619,0:53:43.180
believe that until they get into power

0:53:41.140,0:53:45.160
which seems to be the opposite opinion

0:53:43.180,0:53:48.220
of everybody else where they’re like no

0:53:45.160,0:53:49.570
people are awful until we elect them

0:53:48.220,0:53:59.710
into power because that means that they

0:53:49.570,0:54:01.000
were chosen by God to do this but I mean

0:53:59.710,0:54:04.780
that’s that’s been the biggest thing is

0:54:01.000,0:54:06.790
that I found with people is they refuse

0:54:04.780,0:54:09.580
to believe that you’re good that I’m

0:54:06.790,0:54:12.280
good they Kingsley is good that anybody

0:54:09.580,0:54:13.630
like any individual is good unless they

0:54:12.280,0:54:15.369
are the person in power and that

0:54:13.630,0:54:16.869
person’s they’re sent to be their Savior

0:54:15.369,0:54:19.270
and they’re going to be the ones that

0:54:16.869,0:54:22.380
are going to fix all of the issues with

0:54:19.270,0:54:24.760
this world when in fact they’re just

0:54:22.380,0:54:27.160
pushing the exact same problems that we

0:54:24.760,0:54:28.480
already have and the real answer is just

0:54:27.160,0:54:30.280
to go back to individual rights

0:54:28.480,0:54:34.180
individual freedoms and less and less

0:54:30.280,0:54:38.619
and less and less to no government when

0:54:34.180,0:54:43.030
pornhub is shoveling snow and planting

0:54:38.619,0:54:46.410
trees and dominoes a pizza place is

0:54:43.030,0:54:46.410
covering potholes

0:54:46.650,0:54:51.070
you really don’t need to look much

0:54:49.030,0:54:53.230
further to realize that private

0:54:51.070,0:54:55.990
companies private organizations are able

0:54:53.230,0:54:59.920
to do these things much more efficiently

0:54:55.990,0:55:01.780
a lot cheaper and just all around better

0:54:59.920,0:55:08.589
than the government’s been able to do it

0:55:01.780,0:55:12.430
over the course of 200 years we actually

0:55:08.589,0:55:14.080
had a speaker Ovens O’Brien I’m sure you

0:55:12.430,0:55:16.150
know her from libertarian circles yeah

0:55:14.080,0:55:22.050
she’s great and I really like her and

0:55:16.150,0:55:26.230
she uh she I’m sorry so she she actually

0:55:22.050,0:55:30.490
did a talk and it was private solutions

0:55:26.230,0:55:32.859
to your public problems okay private

0:55:30.490,0:55:34.660
solutions to public problems and so she

0:55:32.859,0:55:36.099
was talking about Domino’s and she was

0:55:34.660,0:55:41.940
looking about pornhub and she was

0:55:36.099,0:55:44.260
talking about ways you know late

0:55:41.940,0:55:48.910
notifies you when there’s a cop stop

0:55:44.260,0:55:51.310
ahead right now and not just that saves

0:55:48.910,0:55:53.470
people so many tickets saves them so

0:55:51.310,0:55:56.619
much money saves them so much time so

0:55:53.470,0:55:59.050
many tickets cop ahead it’s a it is a

0:55:56.619,0:56:00.849
great feature that I know that police

0:55:59.050,0:56:03.160
forces all around the u.s. have sued

0:56:00.849,0:56:06.730
ways over it and ways has won every

0:56:03.160,0:56:09.400
single time yeah and no it’s amazing and

0:56:06.730,0:56:12.190
and so like I encourage people to build

0:56:09.400,0:56:14.020
stuff like that absolutely build things

0:56:12.190,0:56:15.690
ever gonna help everybody out let me

0:56:14.020,0:56:18.670
know when there’s a red light camera

0:56:15.690,0:56:20.890
yeah I just saw this I saw two things

0:56:18.670,0:56:24.910
that really inspired me this week and it

0:56:20.890,0:56:26.500
was um it was the woman who created the

0:56:24.910,0:56:30.160
shirts with the license plates on them

0:56:26.500,0:56:32.440
did you hear about that so basically you

0:56:30.160,0:56:34.450
know how like when a cop tells you like

0:56:32.440,0:56:36.970
they’re scanning every single license

0:56:34.450,0:56:40.780
plate in view and kind of running the

0:56:36.970,0:56:42.880
plate so this woman made a shirt with a

0:56:40.780,0:56:45.550
bunch of different license plates on

0:56:42.880,0:56:50.050
them and I’ll send you the link but to

0:56:45.550,0:56:51.790
basically like deter the police cam from

0:56:50.050,0:56:54.010
like getting the license plates that are

0:56:51.790,0:56:55.240
on the street Italy for instance if

0:56:54.010,0:56:57.099
someone’s wearing it they walk down the

0:56:55.240,0:56:59.170
sidewalk the camera will pick it up and

0:56:57.099,0:57:01.180
it’ll kind of like diverts and that you

0:56:59.170,0:57:03.339
know that’s actually a brilliant idea I

0:57:01.180,0:57:05.800
thought that was genius and so it was

0:57:03.339,0:57:07.970
like wow you know way to like disempower

0:57:05.800,0:57:09.740
the state that’s amazing

0:57:07.970,0:57:13.070
and there is this there was this other

0:57:09.740,0:57:17.060
guy and this this is a little weird and

0:57:13.070,0:57:22.550
it can also be used in a negative way

0:57:17.060,0:57:25.100
too but he created masks to like for

0:57:22.550,0:57:27.080
anti-surveillance you know really you

0:57:25.100,0:57:29.810
got outlook and you put on a mask and

0:57:27.080,0:57:32.810
it’s actually the guy’s face so I don’t

0:57:29.810,0:57:35.210
you know it’s a guy who created its face

0:57:32.810,0:57:41.690
I think so oh man that’s like

0:57:35.210,0:57:43.970
beautifully narcissistic he also had

0:57:41.690,0:57:46.160
good intentions to I don’t know if it

0:57:43.970,0:57:47.990
was more on the narcissistic side to

0:57:46.160,0:57:50.750
here like everyone will have my face you

0:57:47.990,0:57:54.380
know but the way he phrased it was you

0:57:50.750,0:57:57.410
know if I have to if I have to get in

0:57:54.380,0:58:01.370
trouble for something that someone else

0:57:57.410,0:58:03.710
did he goes it’s worth it in my opinion

0:58:01.370,0:58:05.540
to basically just empower the

0:58:03.710,0:58:08.180
surveillance state right

0:58:05.540,0:58:10.910
which is true like there I think I know

0:58:08.180,0:58:14.240
is a satire article but I think it was

0:58:10.910,0:58:16.910
by Babylon B but they said juggle juggle

0:58:14.240,0:58:18.590
Oh makeup keeps you from being

0:58:16.910,0:58:20.650
surveilled and somebody was like juggle

0:58:18.590,0:58:24.490
is living in 2020 long before we were

0:58:20.650,0:58:29.450
huh that’s actually yeah they would work

0:58:24.490,0:58:35.210
yeah I don’t like Juggalos but that’s a

0:58:29.450,0:58:37.190
valid point like flying back from really

0:58:35.210,0:58:39.320
like you have to do the cameras and take

0:58:37.190,0:58:41.660
the photo of yourself and I’m always

0:58:39.320,0:58:42.920
like squinting my eyes or you know like

0:58:41.660,0:58:46.160
trying to make my face look like

0:58:42.920,0:58:47.600
something it’s not you know or like

0:58:46.160,0:58:51.140
closing my eyes so they don’t get like

0:58:47.600,0:58:54.290
my right eye scans or something yeah so

0:58:51.140,0:58:57.020
but it’s gotten to be really bad like

0:58:54.290,0:58:58.820
really not in watch like First Amendment

0:58:57.020,0:59:02.690
audits have you ever seen it any of

0:58:58.820,0:59:03.610
those no it’s a people who basically go

0:59:02.690,0:59:05.930
and film the police

0:59:03.610,0:59:09.620
okay look like a photography and it’s

0:59:05.930,0:59:15.080
not a crime exactly but cops don’t like

0:59:09.620,0:59:18.830
being surveilled you all seem like all

0:59:15.080,0:59:20.510
day okay yeah I’ve got a buddy here in

0:59:18.830,0:59:22.490
Pinellas County and here

0:59:20.510,0:59:24.500
the Pinellas County chapter of panic or

0:59:22.490,0:59:26.120
not photography is not a crime and he

0:59:24.500,0:59:29.840
just posted videos of him filming cops

0:59:26.120,0:59:32.930
while they’re doing things and I’m like

0:59:29.840,0:59:36.020
you ever get thrown in jail he has not

0:59:32.930,0:59:38.000
yet that I have seen I don’t think he’s

0:59:36.020,0:59:40.730
been posed like this was five years ago

0:59:38.000,0:59:43.190
he started doing this a lot and he’s I

0:59:40.730,0:59:44.990
don’t see the posts as much I still see

0:59:43.190,0:59:48.140
him but he hasn’t posted about being in

0:59:44.990,0:59:50.180
jail or anything so I think that he got

0:59:48.140,0:59:52.670
a job and you know now he needs to work

0:59:50.180,0:59:55.610
so he doesn’t post as much ya know I’ll

0:59:52.670,0:59:58.040
tell you Kingsley and I have it’s like a

0:59:55.610,1:00:00.740
loop First Amendment audit videos that

0:59:58.040,1:00:03.860
just really probably stays on all all

1:00:00.740,1:00:06.770
day and like because we just watch

1:00:03.860,1:00:11.000
people film the cops and a lot of the

1:00:06.770,1:00:15.290
time these cops will actually attack

1:00:11.000,1:00:18.440
them like throw down take their cameras

1:00:15.290,1:00:20.660
away book them in jail it’s like it’s

1:00:18.440,1:00:22.760
crazy how angry these people get for

1:00:20.660,1:00:25.970
just simply flipping the script and

1:00:22.760,1:00:28.610
recording them yeah it’s totally fine

1:00:25.970,1:00:30.830
for them to be filming you all the time

1:00:28.610,1:00:34.850
yeah but the moment the cameras turn

1:00:30.830,1:00:36.830
around on them they’re like no it’s

1:00:34.850,1:00:40.120
legal to film them like it’s legal to

1:00:36.830,1:00:43.070
walk into a police department and film

1:00:40.120,1:00:44.930
public workers in a public space you

1:00:43.070,1:00:49.460
know like that’s totally protected by

1:00:44.930,1:00:52.190
law and they hate it they don’t like it

1:00:49.460,1:00:54.560
and they try to fight it every time you

1:00:52.190,1:00:56.570
know right like these cops don’t even

1:00:54.560,1:00:59.090
they don’t even know the laws they don’t

1:00:56.570,1:01:02.780
even understand that like what our

1:00:59.090,1:01:05.930
rights are right like I know I said I

1:01:02.780,1:01:09.260
set up a shortcut on my phone that if I

1:01:05.930,1:01:12.500
say hey Siri police or something

1:01:09.260,1:01:14.060
I can’t run with the what the code is

1:01:12.500,1:01:17.710
but I think it’s just I say hey Siri

1:01:14.060,1:01:21.310
police it automatically starts recording

1:01:17.710,1:01:26.470
it sends a text message to spike Cohen

1:01:21.310,1:01:29.900
with the video that I just recorded and

1:01:26.470,1:01:32.720
texts like my emergency contacts that I

1:01:29.900,1:01:34.609
am dealing with the cops that’s amazing

1:01:32.720,1:01:35.839
yeah you can’t like there’s this new

1:01:34.609,1:01:37.369
short-cut thing that you can do on

1:01:35.839,1:01:38.630
iPhones I think you’ve been able to do

1:01:37.369,1:01:41.150
it on Android for a while I’m not a

1:01:38.630,1:01:42.859
hundred percent sure and I set that up

1:01:41.150,1:01:46.819
and I was just like all right

1:01:42.859,1:01:49.309
I only shortcut I will ever set up yeah

1:01:46.819,1:01:52.130
I mean I’m not a huge iPhone person but

1:01:49.309,1:01:54.380
that sounds fucking awesome right yeah

1:01:52.130,1:01:57.319
it’s it is one of the greatest things

1:01:54.380,1:01:59.299
about the new iPhone iOS thing is like

1:01:57.319,1:02:01.970
set that up and now I’m like okay now if

1:01:59.299,1:02:03.950
I ever need that it’s livestream video

1:02:01.970,1:02:05.390
or is it like a recorded video I think

1:02:03.950,1:02:07.309
it’s a recorded e I haven’t had to use

1:02:05.390,1:02:09.319
it so I’m not a hundred percent sure

1:02:07.309,1:02:11.150
which one it is I kind of want to just

1:02:09.319,1:02:13.099
test it out and find out and Spike will

1:02:11.150,1:02:17.539
be like why are you sending me a weird

1:02:13.099,1:02:19.039
video nothing yeah no well yeah it has

1:02:17.539,1:02:20.390
to be it has to be livestream because

1:02:19.039,1:02:22.700
that’s the only way they’re ever held

1:02:20.390,1:02:25.670
held accountable for their actions right

1:02:22.700,1:02:27.289
exactly so for those watching who want

1:02:25.670,1:02:29.210
to start filming the please make sure

1:02:27.289,1:02:30.470
stream live streaming it live streaming

1:02:29.210,1:02:32.440
it doesn’t count if it’s not live stream

1:02:30.470,1:02:36.400
because then it could be edited yes

1:02:32.440,1:02:39.289
that’s the argument that’s the argument

1:02:36.400,1:02:41.420
that is just about all the time we have

1:02:39.289,1:02:43.460
for today do you have stuff you want to

1:02:41.420,1:02:46.489
push stuff you want to tell people to go

1:02:43.460,1:02:48.619
check out yeah we didn’t really get a

1:02:46.489,1:02:51.950
chance to talk about float that much but

1:02:48.619,1:02:55.309
we are a social media network that aims

1:02:51.950,1:02:57.499
to just be better than all the rest um

1:02:55.309,1:03:01.339
you know like we really want to be able

1:02:57.499,1:03:03.890
to help content creators who have been

1:03:01.339,1:03:07.400
shadow banned and blocked and have their

1:03:03.890,1:03:18.410
their income totally uh slashed so you

1:03:07.400,1:03:20.690
can go over to our website wwlp.com in

1:03:18.410,1:03:22.039
IE even want your thoughts to be honest

1:03:20.690,1:03:23.299
so you can just write me like a little

1:03:22.039,1:03:25.279
blurb of what you think about the

1:03:23.299,1:03:28.190
platform sure yeah that won’t be a

1:03:25.279,1:03:30.319
problem right now and so I realized that

1:03:28.190,1:03:32.119
there are a couple of bugs but we’re

1:03:30.319,1:03:35.660
trying to get them in a bug report and

1:03:32.119,1:03:38.480
kind of work on them daily so for the

1:03:35.660,1:03:40.690
record but yeah I’m really excited we’re

1:03:38.480,1:03:44.089
gonna be doing a marketplace as well

1:03:40.690,1:03:44.740
like storefronts oh if you have any

1:03:44.089,1:03:46.210
merch

1:03:44.740,1:03:48.610
like you can throw it up there and

1:03:46.210,1:03:50.290
everything is in Bitcoin right now

1:03:48.610,1:03:53.680
crypto currencies is all we’re going to

1:03:50.290,1:03:56.290
accept no US dollars at all

1:03:53.680,1:03:58.570
excellent yeah my favorite thing about

1:03:56.290,1:04:01.750
float is that people can just give me

1:03:58.570,1:04:04.030
crypto for me doing this which that’s

1:04:01.750,1:04:06.730
awesome yeah oh yeah that’s another

1:04:04.030,1:04:09.520
another feature so you know I don’t know

1:04:06.730,1:04:13.180
if you ever go live on YouTube and maybe

1:04:09.520,1:04:18.640
people send you a super checks no people

1:04:13.180,1:04:21.940
haven’t done that for us know what the

1:04:18.640,1:04:24.580
problem is like I can send you fifteen

1:04:21.940,1:04:27.610
dollars or ten dollars and YouTube will

1:04:24.580,1:04:31.390
actually take 30 or 40 percent of that

1:04:27.610,1:04:32.830
donation it’s crazy so the beautiful

1:04:31.390,1:04:34.480
part about float is that you can live

1:04:32.830,1:04:37.090
stream and people can send you super

1:04:34.480,1:04:39.520
charts it’s gonna be in Bitcoin but you

1:04:37.090,1:04:43.300
get that full donation we don’t take a

1:04:39.520,1:04:46.330
cut not even 1% so all right no that’s

1:04:43.300,1:04:48.430
and that’s awesome cuz that’s why would

1:04:46.330,1:04:50.440
you take somebody else’s why would you

1:04:48.430,1:04:52.960
take somebody else’s earning you’re not

1:04:50.440,1:04:54.520
the government right you’re not the

1:04:52.960,1:04:59.320
government you’re not in the business of

1:04:54.520,1:05:01.720
theft are you guys doing or in our code

1:04:59.320,1:05:03.430
Vegas next year we are yeah so we’re

1:05:01.720,1:05:04.690
planning on our code AS 2020 right now

1:05:03.430,1:05:06.700
it’s probably going to be that same

1:05:04.690,1:05:09.580
weekend at the same weekend of freedom

1:05:06.700,1:05:13.080
fest so I think it’s the 18th and the

1:05:09.580,1:05:15.790
19th of July and we’re still basically

1:05:13.080,1:05:17.530
negotiating like venues but it’s going

1:05:15.790,1:05:19.720
to be a two-day then instead of a

1:05:17.530,1:05:21.910
one-day event next year Allison I’m

1:05:19.720,1:05:23.560
gonna see if I can get a spike in Jason

1:05:21.910,1:05:26.950
to go out there with me next year yes

1:05:23.560,1:05:29.770
please I mean we could even set up like

1:05:26.950,1:05:31.660
a muddy in waters table where you guys

1:05:29.770,1:05:34.420
can just go live directly from the

1:05:31.660,1:05:37.690
events oh that would be amazing we would

1:05:34.420,1:05:39.670
have so much fun doing that let’s go

1:05:37.690,1:05:41.080
okay totally done with that I got to

1:05:39.670,1:05:43.150
talk about this bike first cuz you know

1:05:41.080,1:05:50.160
a partner but you know whatever he’ll

1:05:43.150,1:05:56.620
say yes I promise to give you a booze

1:05:50.160,1:05:57.990
well he and I are both sober I promise

1:05:56.620,1:05:59.760
to give you not booze

1:05:57.990,1:06:02.460
yeah because like yeah I’m like almost

1:05:59.760,1:06:06.710
five years over he’s like 12 you smoke

1:06:02.460,1:06:08.730
weed no oh wow yeah yeah I’m like I

1:06:06.710,1:06:10.350
always made fun of people who were

1:06:08.730,1:06:11.880
straightedge and bragged about it but

1:06:10.350,1:06:16.350
now I kind of do the exact same thing

1:06:11.880,1:06:17.370
except I do it by being like yeah I’m

1:06:16.350,1:06:19.740
sober now

1:06:17.370,1:06:23.100
yeah well it’s funny because I I

1:06:19.740,1:06:29.400
actually cut down drinking a lot and I

1:06:23.100,1:06:31.470
was drinking a lot and now it’s so funny

1:06:29.400,1:06:33.540
Kingsley like always calls me of Puritan

1:06:31.470,1:06:34.320
because I’ll have one drink and I’m like

1:06:33.540,1:06:37.350
done

1:06:34.320,1:06:39.840
and I really want drink probably I’ll

1:06:37.350,1:06:42.530
drink every once in a blue moon right I

1:06:39.840,1:06:44.760
only had like one or two yeah I

1:06:42.530,1:06:46.620
September seventh was the last September

1:06:44.760,1:06:52.080
7th 2014 was the last time I like

1:06:46.620,1:06:55.920
alcohol it took me like I know I know

1:06:52.080,1:07:00.270
alcoholics and so watching what they go

1:06:55.920,1:07:01.650
through it was I don’t I don’t want to

1:07:00.270,1:07:02.850
put my body through that I don’t want to

1:07:01.650,1:07:04.530
put myself through that I don’t want to

1:07:02.850,1:07:08.460
put my family through that I I can’t

1:07:04.530,1:07:09.720
imagine I just don’t ever want to go

1:07:08.460,1:07:11.430
down that road so I’m like I should just

1:07:09.720,1:07:14.160
probably eliminate it it’s not good for

1:07:11.430,1:07:16.320
you anyway right I’ll have to find a

1:07:14.160,1:07:18.120
picture of me right before I quit

1:07:16.320,1:07:23.810
drinking and send it to you because I

1:07:18.120,1:07:28.020
didn’t look like this really badly

1:07:23.810,1:07:31.230
really badly and yeah I was a lot

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heavier my face was much much rounder

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and like I had like the red like the

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redness that you get from drinking too

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much and it like it was bad the first

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month was awful it was a it was

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god-awful like I had like the I would

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wake up with DTS in the middle of the

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night like night sweats like I would get

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sick it was it was a bad month well I’m

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really glad that you stopped drinking

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and I mean 2014 not a long time so thank

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you I appreciate it oh my you juice

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beautiful yeah that’s awesome I’ll drink

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juice all day long but yeah thanks so

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much for coming on I do appreciate it

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I got to do the outro but if you want to

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hang

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for a minute we can talk for a minute

1:08:12.660,1:08:21.870
afterwards yes all right beautiful

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everybody else be sure you tune in all

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week long we’ve got Jason Lyon doing mr.

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America the beard of truth we have

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spiking me on Monday doing my no that’s

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spike show doing muddied waters of

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freedom on Wednesday we got spike comb

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my fellow Americans next week I will be

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back on Thursday with a brand-new

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episode of the writer’s block and next

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Friday we’ve got Jason Lyon the bearded

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truth coming back

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tune in for all of that have a great

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weekend

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do everything you can to fight for

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freedom and just enjoy the rest of enjoy

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the rest of your week

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[Music]

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I’ll convince the world I don’t need

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anybody’s help

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[Music]

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save me a lonely dragging dead I’ll try

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to use your body as a life raft cuz if

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there’s room enough for one there must

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be four to separate us

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[Music]

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[Applause]

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[Music]

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my hiding place is broadcast the evening

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news hour

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[Music]

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[Applause]

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[Music]

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[Music]

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don’t bother swimming and to save me I

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will only track it

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don’t bother to save me I will only drag

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[Music]

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that one myself

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it’s a standard for the legs saga

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to convince all that world I don’t need

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anybody’s

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[Music]


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