The Wrighter’s Block Episode 41 – Axl David Gets Wrighter’s Block

The Wrighter's Block


About This Episode


Axl David with the National Motorist Association joins Matt in studio to talk about motorists rights and how we can fight for them.

Thanks to the Narcissist Cookbook for the music, and Don and Sally for giving me birth.

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Episode Transcript

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in places broadcast to the evening news

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I will be

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don’t bother swimming and to save me I

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will only track it

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don’t bother sweater to save me I will

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only drag myself it’s a standard

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to convince all that world I don’t need

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anybody’s

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all right put down your pens put down

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your pencils step away from your

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keyboards and settle in for this week’s

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episode of the writer’s block

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first and foremost allow me to thank Don

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and Sally right for giving birth to me

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because without them none of this would

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be possible

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also let me thank the narcissist

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cookbook for allowing me to use his

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music at the beginning in the end of

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every episode and if you go over to his

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channel on YouTube you can see well you

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can hear him do a completely legal

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reading of The Chronicles of Narnia The

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Lion the Witch and the Wardrobe and it

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is fantastic and it’s completely legal

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he says I definitely recommend you check

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that out also allow me to thank Casey

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Neff for the Cabo Casey Casey Casey

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Casey super fan Casey Neff bought the

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coppice ode so Thank You Casey

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for letting me an axial drink on

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tonight’s show to all those above and to

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my guest Axl

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bula vinaka so today on my show I’ve got

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all my notes covered I have my good

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buddy Axl David he is here from the

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National motorist Association he is the

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former communications director for the

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Tennessee party of libertarian party of

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Tennessee and just an all-around great

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guy

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Axl thanks for coming in thank you I

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think the funniest part about the the

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muddied waters of freedom global studio

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here you go to the Bernie Sanders

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mailbox and turn right that’s actually

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true yeah that is the best way to figure

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out how to get to my house I’m across

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the street for the Bernie Sanders for

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the Bernie box

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yeah when um when I was doing the when I

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was doing the campaign when I was I’m

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working on the 2016 campaigns there were

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I had like a Gary Johnson son

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and a couple of the locals had a couple

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of their signs up and they were always

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going missing and I just always assumed

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that it was the Bernie broza cause we

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ballsy of them but yeah when I was where

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I was working on a campaign I was

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working on a local campaign State House

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and I was working for a guy ray

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Blackledge she ended up anything to the

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girl he lost – whose name I forget who

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lives here in town she’s like six houses

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down no but I had a ray Blackledge sign

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out because I was working for him and I

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was like yeah I’m play sign out for him

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since you’re paying me and that sign was

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constantly being it wasn’t taken it was

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never taken but it was always taken out

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and laid down on the ground and I was

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like I’m gonna put oh I know is

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exceptionally petty and I made a joke

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with my buddy with my one of my buddies

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TJ and I said can we wire electricity

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that’s what like that’s ideas of

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funniest videos on there when you saw a

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lot with the Trump Trump signs where

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people would like Electrify the signs

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and you don’t have to put it around like

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you you let fry the the H steaks yeah

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and so when they go to like they quickly

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I didn’t electrocute the hell of

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themselves yeah that’s hilarious I I you

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can’t help but but not think they

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deserve that stuff no absolutely I am

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cuz yeah when cuz when that was going on

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like I was coming home and like I was

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walking neighborhoods for him and so I

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was out in the heat all day long in the

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middle of summer

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you know and it’s Florida I’m hot I’m

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sweaty I hate everybody at this point

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because I’ve had 47,000 doors slams in

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my face have been told I’m the evil

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incarnate because I’m rooting for a

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Republican which I wasn’t really rooting

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for the Republican I was rooting against

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there was no other option in the race

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and he was giving me money to be there

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so I would come home and the sign would

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be on would just be lying in my grass

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and I just I like investors some like a

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cheat Cameron just have assumed in on

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that

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stuff like that just really might let

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across on here oh yeah no you’re like

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that bugs me it’s like yeah just be

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respectful and I think for me I’m so

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neurotic that I would put a sign in my

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front yard but I would be like

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constantly watching it and everything

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kind of car went by her someone walked

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by I’d be there checking it like like

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for my blinds like I don’t have the that

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stress that would lead me it’s like

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nothing in my front yard right I am yeah

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when I first moved here when I first

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moved here you walked you walked through

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my house but my this office was

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originally in the front room where like

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right when you walked in I did that’s

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where I setup my composure and

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everything so that way I had a window

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because that was nice and so I just sit

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there and I would like do work out there

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and I was sitting there one day and I

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was doing some freelance writing and I’m

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typing in my next-door neighbor the

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woman who still lives there

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walks her dog over into my yard and lets

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her dog go to the bathroom and then she

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walks back and he doesn’t clean doesn’t

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clean it up doesn’t do anything and I’m

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just sitting there like I can’t she just

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did she really just do this and I I was

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I was so taken back by it cuz I was like

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why would she do that so this was back

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when I still drank heavily and this will

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lead you to realizing why I don’t do

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that anymore but I was walking back from

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the bars because you know one duis

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enough I was walking into that so I was

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walking back from the bars you know it

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was only like six blocks down and I had

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to go to the bathroom and I was walking

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down the alleyways I was only one house

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away from mine and I went a little early

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and I didn’t have to pee you can fill in

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whatever blanks you want on that you’d

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probably be correct because that’s what

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I did and so she never let her dog go to

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the bathroom

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yard again I’ve scared that though I

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don’t know if she knew I did that but

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there was never a time where that ever

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came on off I mean she saw a – you could

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I mean it was 3 a.m. or something

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possible so you and I met at the kava

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bars yeah technically yeah yeah I you

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know live quite a few places but I’ve

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always known about kava because um

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because I’m a Hamid right and you know

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Mohammed I go way back

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and I just yeah I do technical technical

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technical issues sorry sorry false it

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doesn’t make good is a right Emily how

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could he was like pulled him out yeah

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cuz I pulled him out to show them nipple

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video oh and I forgot to plug him back

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in but yeah sorry about that

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I totally forgot to do what I was

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supposed to do there so yeah we uh so

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yeah Mohammed Mohammed I go way back as

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well

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as you know he’s one of the cofounders

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of this channel and yeah I remember you

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were I remember him telling us one days

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again my buddy Axl’s coming tonight yeah

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I was so happy to finally try X I heard

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so much about I read you know I’m I’m

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really neurotic when it comes like

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researching things it’s just my thing so

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I knew so much about cava but I just I

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knew it’s like a Saint Pete thing so

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living in Tennessee or Indiana or you

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know I’ve lived everywhere so I finally

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moved here is excited to try it well the

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first time I think when I mega the first

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time I did wasn’t I liked it but I

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wasn’t crazy about it that makes sense

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yeah kind of have that one go yeah I was

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on a Saturday where do you just drink

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like a shit-ton and you keep drinking it

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but you know I was like I’ll just once a

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while I did I suppose like you know one

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Saturday every couple months I’d go to

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low tech so you can’t make I was a

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drinker right you know I never drink and

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drive but you know I would just drink at

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home a lot and I got night before bed

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and so it was quite a Thanksgiving and

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it was my job I have to

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you know during hurricane season

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especially I had to be kind of mindful

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of being able to drive very quickly

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middle of the night and so you know I I

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started I was like guys maybe I’ll

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switch Chicago and I was just I was so

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sick of drinking alcohol but and I drank

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it had a lot of photos at muddy water

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I’m in st. Pete and I just you know what

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this is stupid like why would I keep

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drinking I was like drinking alcohol

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stupid

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I hated the way you felt afterwards just

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constant taking these risk you know it’s

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just stupid and so I just stopped

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drinking alcohol believe it or not and

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then I went on and that was you know

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Thanksgiving and then come February I

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was on vacation I drank a couple times

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but like I just he I didn’t get drunk

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I’m like this is just feels like shit I

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don’t like it when you drink that’s the

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thing about kavas when you drink it for

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a while and you get used to it and you

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enjoy it and you know how it affects you

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did go back to alcohol it’s like well

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this is kind of the same thing as Cabo

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you just feel shittier and you can’t

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control yourself and you can’t drive so

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right yeah so I did not have been

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drinking kava since and I think it’s

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definitely been a lifesaver for me oh

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yeah me too

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me too anyways what’s funny is so I

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started drinking kava back it’s gonna be

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five years in exactly one month I

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started drinking kava and I I was

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working on a congressional campaign for

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Lucas over B he was running as a

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libertarian and he was running against

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david jolly and we he always had his

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campaign meetings at a kebab or was it

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his it was it cuz I followed bukas when

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he started running how long ago was that

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five years ago right it was 14

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yeah so he always had this at money not

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money I’m mad hatter’s matters yeah cuz

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Akita was checking the matters I’m like

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that’s how I first learned about it yeah

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so I’ve been drinking it in spirit since

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then right so yeah we we were having

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these meetings there and I could drink

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the kratom cuz I was still drinking

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heavily no and one day he and I were

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having a Sarah and reg feels the need to

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find a San Diego kava bar it’s called

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kava collective yeah they’re great yeah

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I’m not the owner there yeah this is

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their sticker if you go there if you go

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there tell them Matt right sent you and

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you’ll get free cough on the rest of

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your life possibly I’m not gonna

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guarantee you that though say that you

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learned about it on this show and you

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might get a discount and and so we were

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we were hanging out there and he was

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talking to me and I was a little

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hungover that night and he was like what

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was the last day you weren’t hungover oh

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my god it easily when was the last time

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you went without drinking and I was like

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Matt I don’t know man yeah he was like

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was the last time you went without

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blacking out nothing listen I’m doing my

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job for your campaign and he was like

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yeah I bet you can’t go a month without

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drinking all right I’ll take that bet

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right now anything okay and he’s like if

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you if you do it if when I win which he

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didn’t okay when I win you can come up

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DCM be on my campaign stuff I was like

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great and he goes and I’ll never bring

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it up again and you can go back to

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drinking and I was like great because

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that was exactly what my plan was

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and so I started hanging out low tide

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and Mad Hatter’s and it was the worst

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month of my life

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like what switching to collar switching

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to go early like I would went through

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like serious withdrawal guy was waking

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up in the middle of night night sweats

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like it was it was awful I woke up every

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day feeling worse than when I was

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drinking and like I got wicked restless

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leg syndrome just random and after the

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first 30 days I was like kind of feeling

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better but I wasn’t feeling great and I

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was like I don’t ever want to go through

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this again so I may as well just stick

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with it and September 7th will be five

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years since that time Wow

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yeah I waited to me I I actually I was

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pretty bad like I don’t this isn’t

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really about like me personally but I I

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was a hardcore alcoholic for a long time

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I actually end up checking myself into

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rehab like inpatient rehab and I I do

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open my comedy sometimes one of the

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things I talk about but we I I went in

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Gary Indiana for a month okay so you’re

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I don’t know people Florida or

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wherever you guys are know about

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carrying you know but basically you’re

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locked away for you do it yourself you

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lock yourself into it’s a quasi hospital

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treatment facility and so I was there a

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month and then you you know doing doing

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the the sober life and you’re going to a

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a meetings and all that I think it’s

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served a purpose and it’s it helped me

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at times but your life revolves around

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sobriety your life revolves around a a

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around avoiding alcohol around the that

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stuff initially after a year of that

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it’s like this is tiring I wanted to

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drink to get away from the server

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lifestyle and so I just start drinking

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again a lot and then now you know again

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it’s been since Thanksgiving and I don’t

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I’m not like oh I’m Axl I’m sober I just

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I just don’t want to drink it right I

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know we’re like we’re talk about cough a

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lot but guess what’s for right yeah I

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mean I mean it’s a muddied water

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it is the muddy waters that’s where we

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got the name yeah I mean I don’t ever I

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don’t go around and say yeah I’m mad I’m

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sober you know like if somebody’s like

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hey let’s go out and grab some beers I

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said I can’t

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yeah and when they’re like oh why not

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only because I’m a wicked alcoholic and

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yeah they start drinking again

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you know yeah you’re going down that

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rabbit hole yeah then everybody starts

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apologizing like you didn’t no it’s fine

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look I don’t care

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trust me this isn’t trigger so here’s I

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think when you especially like Meeks

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when I went to rehab it was very odd

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very open about it with my friends so a

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few years ago right and so I would go

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and people like I’d go to my friend’s

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house and there’d be like a beer and

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then they would get so like I am so

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sorry like they’d hide it or they you

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know somewhere they put it in like a

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like like a McDonald’s Cup or something

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I’m like it’s alright like I don’t want

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to be at a bar and I don’t beer I’m much

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a drunk people but you can it’s okay to

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drink around me I’m not gonna be

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offended by it but you that’s another

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thing people don’t realize when you’re

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sober that other people get really weird

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about it that is yeah that’s one thing

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that people like I went to go visit a

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buddy of mine once and he was like dude

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do you know who John Mulaney the

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comedian is yes he’s got that bit cuz

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he’s sober he’s like when you go to a

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party people are always so weird to you

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about it I’ve got a turn up is that

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gonna be good for you that’s the exact

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yeah like I went to my buddy’s house

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he’s like he’s like oh yeah you don’t

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you got one of my kids juice box it is

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like is that too much

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like a cocktail to you I don’t want to

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try to write a trick like man I’m good

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with water just give me the water

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do you have club soda I’ll drink that

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what’s for dinner that’s right I just

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want to know what we’re eating yeah and

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now I want to leave oh yeah like I don’t

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know like I’m not the guy that’s gonna

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go around and say yeah I’m an alcoholic

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and you shouldn’t drink around me no

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I’ll go and hang out with you at a bar I

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don’t want to but we’ll I think I

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honestly believe I have a Bud Light in

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my fridge that’s been there for five

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years

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I have a bottle vodka my kitchen has

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been there for a long time it’s the one

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of my main we might talk about it

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forgetting the how it became but how

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became libertarian but Doug Stanhope

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when he he does he quit smoking for a

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while and he says the best the best way

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to do is to have it available and I

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think it’s true because it’s like if you

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had that smoking whatever your vices and

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you’re trying to quit if you have it

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available you just know like okay I go

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then get it I can go then drink it I can

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go smoke that I can go whatever having

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it available is a big turn words if it’s

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not available your mind starts planing

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it out you start thinking about okay I

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even go here I go to a store and I’m

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gonna go get it and all that so it’s

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it’s it’s you know it’s it’s true I’m

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sorry that I’ve had a Bala Blackie on my

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kitchen and I haven’t touched it ya know

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I’ve had that bit like I didn’t even

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know it was there for a long time and

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then one day I was cleaning out some

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stuff and there was a beer sitting there

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and I stared at it for a long time I

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should probably get rid of that and then

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I but I also don’t know how long it’s

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been here so I’m just gonna leave it cuz

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it’s kind of like a trophy at this point

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so let’s get into how you became a

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libertarian because we talked about a

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little bit briefly before the show and

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you said Doug Stanhope a little bit to

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do with it yeah so I was really into the

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the Chopin Teller’s bullshit yeah and

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you know again that’s not heavily in

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politics believe it or not it’s more

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just like common sense stuff like gun

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control and all that but my favorite

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Penn & Teller’s bullshit was the one

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where they did the the water sommelier

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oh yeah later when I believe it yeah

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that one was so good yeah the my

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favorite ones they didn’t recycling

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that’s fantastic but so I like that’s

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how you get into it my friend of the

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time was libertarian he’s a real

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socialist now which isn’t

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but it’s always watching that you know

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but I used to be a big socialist like

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big liberal you name it

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I’m start watching that was getting into

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it I moved to Chicago so I live in

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Chicago briefly and I used to be super

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like gun control to take them all and

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then you go there and and it wasn’t it

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was a legitimate I didn’t go there like

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open minded I went to Chicago like I

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loved there’s no guns here because at

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the time their guns were completely

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banished Chicago but I had the highest

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gun violence rate in the country and

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Sherrill does you know Michael is this

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just not making sense like this is a add

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up like how do you have how how could

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there possibly be guns yeah and you hear

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all like the arguments for it yes as I

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said it doesn’t make any sense so I

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started then I was like a really pro-gun

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socialist right and then listening Doug

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Stanhope so you know podcasts and

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routines and all that got me into it I

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went to college and and Murfreesboro

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Tennessee joined the young Americans for

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liberty and this kinda went from there

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started getting involved with students

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for liberty and and my all-time favorite

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out there and you and I talked about his

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foundation for economic education yes

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did a lot of the their conferences in

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the summer we did one in Prescott

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Arizona we did two of them Atlanta

490
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Georgia just life-changing and I it was

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funny because I went to you know I was

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involved in me Allen all that I like the

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social stuff but the economics part of

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it just bored the hell out of me I’m

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like I don’t care about numbers and

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markets and graphs and all that and they

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said well you know come out to there’s a

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conference in Arizona be fun learn

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something about so you know I’ll go to

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her and I’ll give it a try I’ll give

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this economics thing a try and then two

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three days later and this you know we’re

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at embry-riddle Aeronautical University

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that out there and in press kit and it

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was a blast I was just so into economics

506
00:20:31,049 –> 00:20:34,019
not let they like I’m like I love this

507
00:20:32,369 –> 00:20:36,899
and so I became really weigh more than

508
00:20:34,019 –> 00:20:41,129
the economic side of the you know the

509
00:20:36,899 –> 00:20:42,899
the spectrum so yeah I love it I be I

510
00:20:41,129 –> 00:20:44,369
think that the Chicago one’s always kind

511
00:20:42,899 –> 00:20:46,850
of was I always look at that’s a tipping

512
00:20:44,369 –> 00:20:50,249
point when I moved there that is those

513
00:20:46,850 –> 00:20:52,649
anti-gun I just that is heaven if you

514
00:20:50,249 –> 00:20:55,379
hate guns and you know you’re in the end

515
00:20:52,649 –> 00:20:57,210
of socialist and you go there just it’s

516
00:20:55,379 –> 00:20:59,279
hell and I like the city of Chicago a

517
00:20:57,210 –> 00:21:00,629
lot islands the city of Chicago is one

518
00:20:59,279 –> 00:21:02,350
of my favorite city absolutely but

519
00:21:00,629 –> 00:21:06,820
living there’s a different story

520
00:21:02,350 –> 00:21:09,070
so yeah so you and I lived in Nashville

521
00:21:06,820 –> 00:21:10,720
during the same period of time which is

522
00:21:09,070 –> 00:21:14,950
funny because I was moving to Chicago

523
00:21:10,720 –> 00:21:18,179
when I ended up in Nashville by pure

524
00:21:14,950 –> 00:21:21,759
accident I ended up in Nashville but

525
00:21:18,179 –> 00:21:24,009
like we probably cross paths Oh hundred

526
00:21:21,759 –> 00:21:25,600
percent yeah we were there is a hundred

527
00:21:24,009 –> 00:21:28,659
percent chance that we were either at

528
00:21:25,600 –> 00:21:32,080
Santa’s pub at the same time yeah Sam’s

529
00:21:28,659 –> 00:21:34,899
pub definitely or mafiosos one of those

530
00:21:32,080 –> 00:21:36,610
two places we were definitely at at the

531
00:21:34,899 –> 00:21:38,889
exact same time had to have been there’s

532
00:21:36,610 –> 00:21:42,190
no way around it just because of the

533
00:21:38,889 –> 00:21:44,649
frequency of which I was at we were both

534
00:21:42,190 –> 00:21:47,919
uh Sam’s father and I was at mafiosos it

535
00:21:44,649 –> 00:21:49,779
had it just had to happen but so you

536
00:21:47,919 –> 00:21:51,070
moved down there and then you became you

537
00:21:49,779 –> 00:21:53,320
joined the Libertarian Party when you

538
00:21:51,070 –> 00:21:57,730
got to Nashville or no so might when I

539
00:21:53,320 –> 00:21:59,379
first mers Bert yes so I first moved in

540
00:21:57,730 –> 00:22:01,389
Nashville my job force him to move there

541
00:21:59,379 –> 00:22:03,549
I was working for a department store in

542
00:22:01,389 –> 00:22:06,970
loss prevention so I was at the store

543
00:22:03,549 –> 00:22:10,080
detective and I moved down there against

544
00:22:06,970 –> 00:22:12,669
my will end up moving around and then

545
00:22:10,080 –> 00:22:14,649
god I’ve lived a bunch of seas and then

546
00:22:12,669 –> 00:22:16,570
I went back to Murfreesboro to go to

547
00:22:14,649 –> 00:22:17,889
Middle Tennessee State and that’s when I

548
00:22:16,570 –> 00:22:19,000
start getting in politics of stuff then

549
00:22:17,889 –> 00:22:20,740
I was going national ID then I was

550
00:22:19,000 –> 00:22:22,539
really involved that’s my that’s why we

551
00:22:20,740 –> 00:22:24,789
ran into you at like you know mafiosos

552
00:22:22,539 –> 00:22:27,250
or any of the libertarian Liberty on the

553
00:22:24,789 –> 00:22:33,190
rocks it seems probable the Lord of the

554
00:22:27,250 –> 00:22:36,399
Rings Club yeah so and then you became

555
00:22:33,190 –> 00:22:39,039
the comms director and was there you

556
00:22:36,399 –> 00:22:44,049
said that you did some did you was it

557
00:22:39,039 –> 00:22:45,759
Yahoo or CFL campus no Tennessee yes yes

558
00:22:44,049 –> 00:22:47,230
so I I was the president of the young

559
00:22:45,759 –> 00:22:49,029
Barry’s for Liberty group out there well

560
00:22:47,230 –> 00:22:50,950
and it was it existed obviously before

561
00:22:49,029 –> 00:22:52,269
us how that’s what really pulled me in

562
00:22:50,950 –> 00:22:53,110
like I knew I had all these ideas that’s

563
00:22:52,269 –> 00:22:55,450
what really pulled me into going

564
00:22:53,110 –> 00:22:57,759
politics was young Americans for Liberty

565
00:22:55,450 –> 00:23:00,250
made a great chapter they’re the are our

566
00:22:57,759 –> 00:23:02,169
faculty advisor was up former president

567
00:23:00,250 –> 00:23:05,289
of the Federal Reserve Oh his name’s dr.

568
00:23:02,169 –> 00:23:07,570
William Ford great guy he’s super free

569
00:23:05,289 –> 00:23:09,340
market guy a president of the Federal

570
00:23:07,570 –> 00:23:11,830
Reserve in Atlanta and is this major

571
00:23:09,340 –> 00:23:14,260
free market guy he’s incredible so we

572
00:23:11,830 –> 00:23:15,370
had a good story we had great we had

573
00:23:14,260 –> 00:23:18,370
definitely one of the highest

574
00:23:15,370 –> 00:23:21,490
attendance highest which was membership

575
00:23:18,370 –> 00:23:23,800
in and all of y’all from there I went to

576
00:23:21,490 –> 00:23:25,390
an internship at Leadership Institute in

577
00:23:23,800 –> 00:23:30,220
Arlington Virginia and just outside of

578
00:23:25,390 –> 00:23:32,830
DC I know well yeah that place really

579
00:23:30,220 –> 00:23:34,780
yeah its I had a good good time I was in

580
00:23:32,830 –> 00:23:36,130
the studio there so I did all the visual

581
00:23:34,780 –> 00:23:37,570
stuff I didn’t do anything political it

582
00:23:36,130 –> 00:23:39,250
was all just like photography

583
00:23:37,570 –> 00:23:42,940
videography you live broadcast things

584
00:23:39,250 –> 00:23:44,980
like that and then I got kind that’s why

585
00:23:42,940 –> 00:23:46,510
I got started getting disillusioned with

586
00:23:44,980 –> 00:23:49,930
politics I’m like yeah that’s when guys

587
00:23:46,510 –> 00:23:51,630
start taking a step back and and I’m

588
00:23:49,930 –> 00:23:54,220
kinda getting back into it though right

589
00:23:51,630 –> 00:23:56,350
so you’ve been working how long have you

590
00:23:54,220 –> 00:23:58,690
been working with the National motorists

591
00:23:56,350 –> 00:24:03,400
so I’ve been associate with them as an

592
00:23:58,690 –> 00:24:04,990
activist since 2013 okay and what is

593
00:24:03,400 –> 00:24:07,570
their main what is their main thing

594
00:24:04,990 –> 00:24:09,550
their main goal where were they aiming

595
00:24:07,570 –> 00:24:13,570
for yeah so it’s basically just in its

596
00:24:09,550 –> 00:24:15,850
freedom for motorists it’s it’s scaling

597
00:24:13,570 –> 00:24:19,780
back against you know these these laws

598
00:24:15,850 –> 00:24:22,450
and these regulations and and and the

599
00:24:19,780 –> 00:24:24,670
kind of bureaucracy around traveling and

600
00:24:22,450 –> 00:24:26,640
driving okay it’s crazy that sounds

601
00:24:24,670 –> 00:24:28,960
there’s a lot of things I mean it’s it’s

602
00:24:26,640 –> 00:24:33,670
this this organization is found in the

603
00:24:28,960 –> 00:24:34,990
80s they take very specific policy to

604
00:24:33,670 –> 00:24:39,420
different positions like red-light

605
00:24:34,990 –> 00:24:41,470
cameras roadblocks speed limits

606
00:24:39,420 –> 00:24:42,520
automated traffic enforcement like for

607
00:24:41,470 –> 00:24:43,660
speed and they’re not like cameras we’ve

608
00:24:42,520 –> 00:24:45,610
already mentioned with it

609
00:24:43,660 –> 00:24:48,690
seatbelts fall under their seatbelts

610
00:24:45,610 –> 00:24:51,490
fall under that it’s basically excuse me

611
00:24:48,690 –> 00:24:53,050
same with that you know with speed with

612
00:24:51,490 –> 00:24:54,970
seatbelt or other so it’s encouraged

613
00:24:53,050 –> 00:24:58,270
these seatbelts and the organization

614
00:24:54,970 –> 00:25:01,510
encourages that but the the issue around

615
00:24:58,270 –> 00:25:04,180
seatbelt enforcement where you know now

616
00:25:01,510 –> 00:25:06,220
it’s a pre-crime and you know it’s it’s

617
00:25:04,180 –> 00:25:07,270
it’s a pre-crime to not wear your

618
00:25:06,220 –> 00:25:09,430
seatbelts they can pull you over for

619
00:25:07,270 –> 00:25:10,870
that right and give you money and take

620
00:25:09,430 –> 00:25:13,180
money from you for doing that right um

621
00:25:10,870 –> 00:25:15,340
be better if they gave me money for yeah

622
00:25:13,180 –> 00:25:17,230
I know I always tell people like you

623
00:25:15,340 –> 00:25:19,180
know that when you have like red light

624
00:25:17,230 –> 00:25:20,320
cameras as I we should just get rid of

625
00:25:19,180 –> 00:25:22,720
the red light cameras and have green

626
00:25:20,320 –> 00:25:24,340
light cameras so if you know if if you

627
00:25:22,720 –> 00:25:25,900
like stopped at a red light they can

628
00:25:24,340 –> 00:25:27,400
then give you money if you actually stop

629
00:25:25,900 –> 00:25:29,010
right I have a thought that idea through

630
00:25:27,400 –> 00:25:33,179
all the way

631
00:25:29,010 –> 00:25:35,010
so I know that red light cameras in road

632
00:25:33,179 –> 00:25:38,179
I know that red-light cameras and road

633
00:25:35,010 –> 00:25:40,770
blocks have been massively contested

634
00:25:38,179 –> 00:25:44,760
massively contested across across the

635
00:25:40,770 –> 00:25:46,590
country now here in Florida when I first

636
00:25:44,760 –> 00:25:48,420
moved here I thought that red light

637
00:25:46,590 –> 00:25:50,040
cameras were but they got rid of them

638
00:25:48,420 –> 00:25:53,160
but apparently I found out recently that

639
00:25:50,040 –> 00:25:55,770
they it’s been so it goes back and forth

640
00:25:53,160 –> 00:25:56,700
at least in the state of Florida there’s

641
00:25:55,770 –> 00:25:58,500
always these kind of different

642
00:25:56,700 –> 00:26:00,300
challenges in a court and I think the

643
00:25:58,500 –> 00:26:03,960
most recent one I believe was in

644
00:26:00,300 –> 00:26:06,570
Homestead Florida where they the the way

645
00:26:03,960 –> 00:26:08,640
it was set up was that the the

646
00:26:06,570 –> 00:26:11,040
contractor that ran the red light camera

647
00:26:08,640 –> 00:26:13,530
contract so in other words let’s go back

648
00:26:11,040 –> 00:26:16,260
up a little bit so you quote-unquote run

649
00:26:13,530 –> 00:26:18,330
a red light that image the video of you

650
00:26:16,260 –> 00:26:19,980
running the red light allegedly the the

651
00:26:18,330 –> 00:26:22,020
picture of your license plate is sent to

652
00:26:19,980 –> 00:26:24,500
another company most of the time it’s

653
00:26:22,020 –> 00:26:26,820
red flexor automated traffic solutions

654
00:26:24,500 –> 00:26:27,929
Basin Arizona both of them are um

655
00:26:26,820 –> 00:26:31,380
they’re actually headquartered in

656
00:26:27,929 –> 00:26:33,960
Australia a private contractor will

657
00:26:31,380 –> 00:26:36,390
review that say yes this person ran a

658
00:26:33,960 –> 00:26:37,710
red light they then use they look

659
00:26:36,390 –> 00:26:39,570
through the DMV records get your

660
00:26:37,710 –> 00:26:41,250
information and they send it to the

661
00:26:39,570 –> 00:26:43,470
police officer back in Florida

662
00:26:41,250 –> 00:26:45,660
the police officer just says okay okay

663
00:26:43,470 –> 00:26:47,100
okay okay since it’s a citation out

664
00:26:45,660 –> 00:26:50,340
according to code citation out to you

665
00:26:47,100 –> 00:26:51,570
and you pay it or you don’t pay it but

666
00:26:50,340 –> 00:26:54,540
he said they’re contested everywhere

667
00:26:51,570 –> 00:26:57,179
anytime anywhere in the country were red

668
00:26:54,540 –> 00:26:59,700
light cameras have been on the ballot

669
00:26:57,179 –> 00:27:03,030
have been soundly defeated it has never

670
00:26:59,700 –> 00:27:05,040
ever been approved by voters they people

671
00:27:03,030 –> 00:27:06,720
hate them for a number of reasons but I

672
00:27:05,040 –> 00:27:08,550
think people even if you don’t know a

673
00:27:06,720 –> 00:27:10,200
lot about them you kind know they’re

674
00:27:08,550 –> 00:27:13,290
they’re BS and that they don’t do

675
00:27:10,200 –> 00:27:17,460
anything and the the central to that is

676
00:27:13,290 –> 00:27:19,260
a vast majority nearly every ticket from

677
00:27:17,460 –> 00:27:21,690
a red-light camera or split second

678
00:27:19,260 –> 00:27:23,670
violations these are when you have

679
00:27:21,690 –> 00:27:25,320
what’s called an all phase res so every

680
00:27:23,670 –> 00:27:27,540
direction is a red light or they overlap

681
00:27:25,320 –> 00:27:29,250
slightly that’s when most of those gets

682
00:27:27,540 –> 00:27:31,470
and these are just barely ran the red

683
00:27:29,250 –> 00:27:33,030
light or you made the decision based on

684
00:27:31,470 –> 00:27:34,650
traffic around you talk behind you other

685
00:27:33,030 –> 00:27:36,059
conditions whatever you made the

686
00:27:34,650 –> 00:27:38,010
decision okay well I can kind of make

687
00:27:36,059 –> 00:27:41,100
this yellow light I got gun it and it’s

688
00:27:38,010 –> 00:27:41,820
like that what secondly and that’s what

689
00:27:41,100 –> 00:27:43,800
triggers that that’s what

690
00:27:41,820 –> 00:27:45,750
make the most money if you added to

691
00:27:43,800 –> 00:27:48,510
those cameras if you added a one two

692
00:27:45,750 –> 00:27:50,490
three second delay where the light can

693
00:27:48,510 –> 00:27:52,200
be read from one to three seconds and no

694
00:27:50,490 –> 00:27:53,880
citations are issued and you get it to

695
00:27:52,200 –> 00:27:54,660
after that they’re all get shut down

696
00:27:53,880 –> 00:27:56,010
overnight

697
00:27:54,660 –> 00:27:56,940
every single one gets shut down let’s

698
00:27:56,010 –> 00:27:59,010
where they make their money they don’t

699
00:27:56,940 –> 00:28:00,540
make money from these random you know

700
00:27:59,010 –> 00:28:01,920
several seconds start the light turn red

701
00:28:00,540 –> 00:28:03,720
and those people that are doing that

702
00:28:01,920 –> 00:28:05,610
aren’t doing it because they are scared

703
00:28:03,720 –> 00:28:06,750
of a fifty dollar ticket they’re drunk

704
00:28:05,610 –> 00:28:07,980
they have someone else go and also while

705
00:28:06,750 –> 00:28:11,340
they’re doing it they’re not heard by

706
00:28:07,980 –> 00:28:13,440
that way right now that makes sense I am

707
00:28:11,340 –> 00:28:16,740
definitely the I can make this yellow

708
00:28:13,440 –> 00:28:19,890
driver yeah which I don’t all right but

709
00:28:16,740 –> 00:28:22,290
the only time that I blew through a red

710
00:28:19,890 –> 00:28:25,830
light it wasn’t because I was mentally

711
00:28:22,290 –> 00:28:28,350
there right yeah it was for multitude of

712
00:28:25,830 –> 00:28:29,820
other reasons probably alcohol well and

713
00:28:28,350 –> 00:28:33,060
that’s the thing too is is we always

714
00:28:29,820 –> 00:28:34,650
mentioned that when on you know now we

715
00:28:33,060 –> 00:28:36,450
had those cameras now people have

716
00:28:34,650 –> 00:28:38,730
cameras there and a police officers on

717
00:28:36,450 –> 00:28:41,100
the corner and he sees you you’re drunk

718
00:28:38,730 –> 00:28:43,410
as hell you blow through a red light

719
00:28:41,100 –> 00:28:44,430
he sees that flash from the camera as

720
00:28:43,410 –> 00:28:46,320
far as the police officer knows okay

721
00:28:44,430 –> 00:28:47,610
well he got his ticket he’s good he does

722
00:28:46,320 –> 00:28:49,470
have any reason to stop you that’s fair

723
00:28:47,610 –> 00:28:52,290
and so now you have people that that

724
00:28:49,470 –> 00:28:53,970
should be stopped are now getting away

725
00:28:52,290 –> 00:28:55,650
and driving down the road the cop thinks

726
00:28:53,970 –> 00:28:57,030
it’s so good you gotta take it who cares

727
00:28:55,650 –> 00:28:58,560
they can’t stop you they have no

728
00:28:57,030 –> 00:29:00,030
discretion they can’t exercise they

729
00:28:58,560 –> 00:29:02,730
can’t look at they must say well maybe

730
00:29:00,030 –> 00:29:04,350
he just he gave me a good story maybe he

731
00:29:02,730 –> 00:29:05,430
ran the red light he’s sober he just

732
00:29:04,350 –> 00:29:06,870
there’s a big truck behind him he’s

733
00:29:05,430 –> 00:29:08,610
afraid to say him on his brakes no

734
00:29:06,870 –> 00:29:09,780
ticket you don’t have that discretion

735
00:29:08,610 –> 00:29:11,850
you can’t look into things further than

736
00:29:09,780 –> 00:29:13,710
that and that’s a another component to

737
00:29:11,850 –> 00:29:17,930
our opposition to red light cameras

738
00:29:13,710 –> 00:29:21,900
gotcha so when he shifting a little bit

739
00:29:17,930 –> 00:29:24,900
shifting so chip ting a little bit when

740
00:29:21,900 –> 00:29:26,640
it comes to the roadblocks which where I

741
00:29:24,900 –> 00:29:30,390
grew up I grew up in Northern Virginia I

742
00:29:26,640 –> 00:29:34,050
grew up in a small town Manassas there

743
00:29:30,390 –> 00:29:35,460
just outside of Fairfax and I would go

744
00:29:34,050 –> 00:29:36,540
into Fairfax ago I think we followed

745
00:29:35,460 –> 00:29:38,280
each other because like I lived in

746
00:29:36,540 –> 00:29:41,580
Arlington and then we lived in Nashville

747
00:29:38,280 –> 00:29:43,470
now Rouen yeah

748
00:29:41,580 –> 00:29:45,090
yeah I think we’re just following each

749
00:29:43,470 –> 00:29:46,409
other right we’re just kind of slow like

750
00:29:45,090 –> 00:29:47,940
it was just destined for us to

751
00:29:46,409 –> 00:29:53,759
eventually meet each other and it just

752
00:29:47,940 –> 00:29:56,700
finally happened so we we would get

753
00:29:53,759 –> 00:30:00,119
roadblocks all the time

754
00:29:56,700 –> 00:30:02,220
all the time we got them so often when I

755
00:30:00,119 –> 00:30:05,100
use them as an excuse for coming home

756
00:30:02,220 –> 00:30:07,200
late my mom would always believe yeah a

757
00:30:05,100 –> 00:30:10,950
hundred percent of the time I was like

758
00:30:07,200 –> 00:30:12,749
oh I was coming back and got stuck yeah

759
00:30:10,950 –> 00:30:17,309
they do money like every night now and

760
00:30:12,749 –> 00:30:21,869
I’m like I know right dad you bought

761
00:30:17,309 –> 00:30:23,700
that like even back then

762
00:30:21,869 –> 00:30:25,440
I’m with like back then I wasn’t really

763
00:30:23,700 –> 00:30:26,940
doing anything wrong I was just driving

764
00:30:25,440 –> 00:30:29,159
back from a friend’s house or driving

765
00:30:26,940 –> 00:30:30,509
back from the movies or something and I

766
00:30:29,159 –> 00:30:35,340
was completely sober I was a good

767
00:30:30,509 –> 00:30:37,320
Christian boy back then and a I would

768
00:30:35,340 –> 00:30:38,789
get pulled you know I would get stuck at

769
00:30:37,320 –> 00:30:40,919
one of these things and they hold me

770
00:30:38,789 –> 00:30:44,070
over and that’s when I got most of my

771
00:30:40,919 –> 00:30:46,289
seat belt tickets and that’s that’s

772
00:30:44,070 –> 00:30:47,970
important thing it’s an oak see I got a

773
00:30:46,289 –> 00:30:49,889
deterrent detour you’re a little bit

774
00:30:47,970 –> 00:30:51,690
that that’s what they’re for

775
00:30:49,889 –> 00:30:52,980
let’s just get any pretense that they’re

776
00:30:51,690 –> 00:30:55,230
forgetting some drunk drivers off the

777
00:30:52,980 –> 00:30:57,210
road that’s not what they’re for they’re

778
00:30:55,230 –> 00:30:59,279
forgiving use equipment violation

779
00:30:57,210 –> 00:31:00,450
seatbelt violations oh I smell weed let

780
00:30:59,279 –> 00:31:02,609
me look in this car a little bit more

781
00:31:00,450 –> 00:31:05,129
okay you’re good there for checking your

782
00:31:02,609 –> 00:31:06,720
ID it’s a fishing expedition that’s what

783
00:31:05,129 –> 00:31:08,249
they are and they can call it what they

784
00:31:06,720 –> 00:31:09,480
want they can put faces of people that

785
00:31:08,249 –> 00:31:10,739
got killed and drunk driving accidents

786
00:31:09,480 –> 00:31:13,019
on the side of the highway all they want

787
00:31:10,739 –> 00:31:14,639
and Tennessee they saw her name and kid

788
00:31:13,019 –> 00:31:16,259
you they start naming sobriety

789
00:31:14,639 –> 00:31:17,820
checkpoints after people killed by drunk

790
00:31:16,259 –> 00:31:19,200
driving accidents they really sort of

791
00:31:17,820 –> 00:31:20,999
naming them that yeah so that’s what

792
00:31:19,200 –> 00:31:22,259
they started doing there and like I said

793
00:31:20,999 –> 00:31:24,629
just get rid of any pretense that’s up

794
00:31:22,259 –> 00:31:27,419
there for and here’s what I can tell you

795
00:31:24,629 –> 00:31:31,049
that the FBI did a study in Tennessee of

796
00:31:27,419 –> 00:31:32,489
all places that basically said let’s

797
00:31:31,049 –> 00:31:35,399
have the a certain amount of police

798
00:31:32,489 –> 00:31:37,470
officers dedicated to a stationary

799
00:31:35,399 –> 00:31:39,570
roadblock that’s pulling every driver

800
00:31:37,470 –> 00:31:42,299
over asking the questions and scene if

801
00:31:39,570 –> 00:31:44,159
they’re drunken and moving them on let’s

802
00:31:42,299 –> 00:31:46,350
have that same amount of resources doing

803
00:31:44,159 –> 00:31:47,460
more like aggressive patrols what are

804
00:31:46,350 –> 00:31:48,960
some we actually see you’re in Pinellas

805
00:31:47,460 –> 00:31:51,539
County a lot called wolf packs okay

806
00:31:48,960 –> 00:31:54,119
which is more effective in getting drunk

807
00:31:51,539 –> 00:31:55,110
drivers off the road the ones that are

808
00:31:54,119 –> 00:31:56,910
out patrolling

809
00:31:55,110 –> 00:31:58,380
you notice they have probable cause to

810
00:31:56,910 –> 00:32:00,179
pull you over they’re not just out

811
00:31:58,380 –> 00:32:03,179
randomly pulling you over they have to

812
00:32:00,179 –> 00:32:04,799
be out there looking hardcore for people

813
00:32:03,179 –> 00:32:06,450
you know we even ended our traffic

814
00:32:04,799 –> 00:32:06,900
crossing the fog line and things like

815
00:32:06,450 –> 00:32:09,630
that

816
00:32:06,900 –> 00:32:11,670
the the money and the resources on those

817
00:32:09,630 –> 00:32:14,250
doing those patrols how to thaw our

818
00:32:11,670 –> 00:32:15,510
greater impact on drunk driver yet way

819
00:32:14,250 –> 00:32:17,520
more drunk drivers whereas at a

820
00:32:15,510 –> 00:32:18,660
checkpoint you get very few in fact

821
00:32:17,520 –> 00:32:20,100
that’s pretty common out to get one

822
00:32:18,660 –> 00:32:21,990
drunk driver all throughout a checkpoint

823
00:32:20,100 –> 00:32:24,120
you might get one or two but most of it

824
00:32:21,990 –> 00:32:26,250
is just oh I forgot my insurance card my

825
00:32:24,120 –> 00:32:28,110
insurance card isn’t in my – my my glove

826
00:32:26,250 –> 00:32:29,280
box right so you get a ticket for that I

827
00:32:28,110 –> 00:32:30,990
need to go to court and answer to that

828
00:32:29,280 –> 00:32:32,190
you know that’s what they’re for and

829
00:32:30,990 –> 00:32:33,480
that’s that’s what they do it and there

830
00:32:32,190 –> 00:32:35,190
and there’s a you know be honest with

831
00:32:33,480 –> 00:32:36,960
you there’s a certain theatric element

832
00:32:35,190 –> 00:32:38,940
to you and you have you know ten cops

833
00:32:36,960 –> 00:32:42,120
floor lights on all these traffic cones

834
00:32:38,940 –> 00:32:44,580
and and and things like that but yeah

835
00:32:42,120 –> 00:32:47,190
it’s it’s pretty sickening and and I’m

836
00:32:44,580 –> 00:32:49,470
pretty happy the house you know how it’s

837
00:32:47,190 –> 00:32:50,820
done here because again I I’m not super

838
00:32:49,470 –> 00:32:52,290
thrilled about you know having extra

839
00:32:50,820 –> 00:32:55,470
cops out just looking for you know out

840
00:32:52,290 –> 00:32:57,450
fishing but they at least respect that

841
00:32:55,470 –> 00:32:59,340
your constitutional rights right they’re

842
00:32:57,450 –> 00:33:01,410
not just stopping everybody to

843
00:32:59,340 –> 00:33:03,510
permanently right indiscriminately just

844
00:33:01,410 –> 00:33:04,890
to try to find a way into the car and

845
00:33:03,510 –> 00:33:07,260
that’s that was the issue I had like

846
00:33:04,890 –> 00:33:11,340
when I was you know 17 or whatever I was

847
00:33:07,260 –> 00:33:14,400
like why is this I was mainly upset that

848
00:33:11,340 –> 00:33:16,470
I was gonna miss curfew I was like why

849
00:33:14,400 –> 00:33:19,380
is it the I’m getting a hit here like

850
00:33:16,470 –> 00:33:22,860
yeah I got five minutes to get home man

851
00:33:19,380 –> 00:33:24,330
yeah well you know minutes from here you

852
00:33:22,860 –> 00:33:26,850
know there was a big thing during black

853
00:33:24,330 –> 00:33:28,320
lives matter where they were like oh my

854
00:33:26,850 –> 00:33:30,030
god I can’t we get protesters are out

855
00:33:28,320 –> 00:33:31,620
blocking highways you know they’re gone

856
00:33:30,030 –> 00:33:33,929
protests in the street for ten minutes

857
00:33:31,620 –> 00:33:35,640
and like well you’re they’re protesting

858
00:33:33,929 –> 00:33:38,580
us a cos but then the cops do the same

859
00:33:35,640 –> 00:33:39,809
exact thing Zack secularly there’s no

860
00:33:38,580 –> 00:33:41,730
difference so I think black lives matter

861
00:33:39,809 –> 00:33:43,290
whole to sign up whereas the police have

862
00:33:41,730 –> 00:33:44,580
guns on them and dogs and they’re trying

863
00:33:43,290 –> 00:33:47,370
to get in trouble right victimless

864
00:33:44,580 –> 00:33:48,990
crimes black lives matter when they do

865
00:33:47,370 –> 00:33:50,549
it they’re gotta make you late for work

866
00:33:48,990 –> 00:33:57,740
when the police do it and you’re late

867
00:33:50,549 –> 00:34:00,270
for work and you might get shot so I

868
00:33:57,740 –> 00:34:02,460
know that roadblocks have been

869
00:34:00,270 –> 00:34:04,710
challenged by the Supreme Court

870
00:34:02,460 –> 00:34:06,200
time and time again and Supreme Court

871
00:34:04,710 –> 00:34:09,500
always says that yes there

872
00:34:06,200 –> 00:34:11,270
– the in certain cases in certain case

873
00:34:09,500 –> 00:34:13,640
so there are several states whose state

874
00:34:11,270 –> 00:34:15,320
Supreme Court don’t allow it Texas I

875
00:34:13,640 –> 00:34:18,050
think is the major one in other words

876
00:34:15,320 –> 00:34:20,120
their Supreme Court says no roadblocks

877
00:34:18,050 –> 00:34:21,440
are not okay in the state because it

878
00:34:20,120 –> 00:34:22,940
goes against the constitutional right

879
00:34:21,440 –> 00:34:25,130
against you know unnecessary force or

880
00:34:22,940 –> 00:34:27,380
other stuff you’re stopping people in

881
00:34:25,130 –> 00:34:29,750
initiating you know law enforcement

882
00:34:27,380 –> 00:34:31,190
actually no probable cause and so the

883
00:34:29,750 –> 00:34:32,810
they don’t know them out that’s why in

884
00:34:31,190 –> 00:34:34,190
Texas that is strictly forbidden and

885
00:34:32,810 –> 00:34:36,350
several other states I remember all of

886
00:34:34,190 –> 00:34:39,020
them based on their interpretation of

887
00:34:36,350 –> 00:34:40,010
the US Constitution and so yeah it

888
00:34:39,020 –> 00:34:42,950
depends there’s there’s been different

889
00:34:40,010 –> 00:34:44,240
court cases in Michigan I think it’s

890
00:34:42,950 –> 00:34:47,150
kind of like the main one that they cite

891
00:34:44,240 –> 00:34:48,890
were the I don’t know the name of I I do

892
00:34:47,150 –> 00:34:50,720
know for a fact the the one that’s often

893
00:34:48,890 –> 00:34:53,870
cited doesn’t make them legal across the

894
00:34:50,720 –> 00:34:56,360
country as as long as it was with the

895
00:34:53,870 –> 00:34:59,090
deterrent and there was if the if the

896
00:34:56,360 –> 00:35:03,490
main objective of a DUI checkpoint is

897
00:34:59,090 –> 00:35:06,200
deterrence they’re legal and so

898
00:35:03,490 –> 00:35:07,940
initially that was like they highly

899
00:35:06,200 –> 00:35:09,860
publicized them they’d be all over the

900
00:35:07,940 –> 00:35:11,240
news all over the radio newspaper they

901
00:35:09,860 –> 00:35:12,620
do also stop and say hey we this big

902
00:35:11,240 –> 00:35:15,380
checkpoint everyone should know about if

903
00:35:12,620 –> 00:35:18,440
me a big checkpoint on you know us forty

904
00:35:15,380 –> 00:35:19,640
somewhere and now it’s kind of scaled up

905
00:35:18,440 –> 00:35:21,380
back back and back about because they

906
00:35:19,640 –> 00:35:23,120
don’t want people know about it right so

907
00:35:21,380 –> 00:35:24,920
start a scaled-back now the on a

908
00:35:23,120 –> 00:35:26,540
technicality they’ll put it on Facebook

909
00:35:24,920 –> 00:35:27,950
like oh by the way the Marion County

910
00:35:26,540 –> 00:35:29,690
Sheriff’s Office will be doing a check

911
00:35:27,950 –> 00:35:31,370
one of the one that yeah ii am post

912
00:35:29,690 –> 00:35:32,510
because they fulfilled their obligations

913
00:35:31,370 –> 00:35:34,400
to make it a deterrent and notify the

914
00:35:32,510 –> 00:35:35,720
public but they’re hoping people know

915
00:35:34,400 –> 00:35:37,220
about it and so there’s that surprise

916
00:35:35,720 –> 00:35:40,370
shock and all and you can you drive it

917
00:35:37,220 –> 00:35:42,470
on the right one thing that tennessee

918
00:35:40,370 –> 00:35:43,850
started doing this way off subject but

919
00:35:42,470 –> 00:35:46,010
one thing tennessee started doing hana

920
00:35:43,850 –> 00:35:48,380
how long they’ve been doing it is they

921
00:35:46,010 –> 00:35:50,600
were posting the number of drunk driving

922
00:35:48,380 –> 00:35:52,520
deaths every year yeah like on the

923
00:35:50,600 –> 00:35:54,410
highways on that you had those dynamic

924
00:35:52,520 –> 00:35:56,930
message boards i remember when it was

925
00:35:54,410 –> 00:35:59,510
like at this really mean when i get six

926
00:35:56,930 –> 00:36:01,880
65 it’s like oh man this next one and

927
00:35:59,510 –> 00:36:04,190
then it would go to 666 how’s the

928
00:36:01,880 –> 00:36:06,620
highway fatalities it’s like oh geez so

929
00:36:04,190 –> 00:36:09,070
it’s like i hope it doesn’t rise from

930
00:36:06,620 –> 00:36:12,590
here but 666 not a good number right

931
00:36:09,070 –> 00:36:14,720
well yeah it’s a scary it’s it’s a way

932
00:36:12,590 –> 00:36:16,550
to scare people thanks I mean it is but

933
00:36:14,720 –> 00:36:20,060
at the same time like it’s all so awful

934
00:36:16,550 –> 00:36:24,740
because like I don’t blame video games

935
00:36:20,060 –> 00:36:28,550
anything wrong but at the same time when

936
00:36:24,740 –> 00:36:33,590
it gets into November and it’s like 2009

937
00:36:28,550 –> 00:36:38,540
18 highway fatalities you know 1078 and

938
00:36:33,590 –> 00:36:42,080
you’re at 997 you’re going we may make

939
00:36:38,540 –> 00:36:43,670
it there is like we could there’s evil

940
00:36:42,080 –> 00:36:45,800
evil evil voice in the back you’re a

941
00:36:43,670 –> 00:36:49,760
head that says stuff like that right and

942
00:36:45,800 –> 00:36:53,270
I the last year I was living there the

943
00:36:49,760 –> 00:36:55,640
last full year that I lived there 2012 I

944
00:36:53,270 –> 00:36:56,900
mean we beat it right at the end and I

945
00:36:55,640 –> 00:36:58,580
remember having a moment where I was

946
00:36:56,900 –> 00:37:01,550
like we did it it was like oh man what

947
00:36:58,580 –> 00:37:03,260
is wrong you’re a terrible person

948
00:37:01,550 –> 00:37:05,270
well yeah no we are everybody knows that

949
00:37:03,260 –> 00:37:08,120
already but but you ought to be clear

950
00:37:05,270 –> 00:37:11,230
though that that I neither me nor the

951
00:37:08,120 –> 00:37:13,910
organization I’m representing in any way

952
00:37:11,230 –> 00:37:15,950
endorses drunk driving or running red

953
00:37:13,910 –> 00:37:17,420
lights or you know do anything stupid

954
00:37:15,950 –> 00:37:19,280
what you think it should be there’s

955
00:37:17,420 –> 00:37:21,080
there some nuance there we think the you

956
00:37:19,280 –> 00:37:24,110
know you know how long ago was the the

957
00:37:21,080 –> 00:37:26,030
the blood alcohol content well I mean it

958
00:37:24,110 –> 00:37:27,650
was point one or you know sorry yeah

959
00:37:26,030 –> 00:37:31,610
it’s point one for a while it was point

960
00:37:27,650 –> 00:37:35,600
one it’s oh wait I know that and I’m

961
00:37:31,610 –> 00:37:37,670
basing this strictly on madmen but back

962
00:37:35,600 –> 00:37:40,400
in the 60s it was like point to yeah

963
00:37:37,670 –> 00:37:42,470
which that would be great

964
00:37:40,400 –> 00:37:46,040
well it would have been when I got my

965
00:37:42,470 –> 00:37:47,900
DUI but if it was point two so and then

966
00:37:46,040 –> 00:37:50,570
it went down to point one and then they

967
00:37:47,900 –> 00:37:51,710
lowered it to 0.08 and I read a couple

968
00:37:50,570 –> 00:37:53,300
of years ago they were thinking about

969
00:37:51,710 –> 00:37:54,920
lowering it to 0.05 it’s going on a

970
00:37:53,300 –> 00:37:56,150
point of five that’s that’s happening I

971
00:37:54,920 –> 00:37:57,740
mean that’s that’s just like we all be

972
00:37:56,150 –> 00:37:59,090
except that’s gonna go down to 0.05 and

973
00:37:57,740 –> 00:38:00,650
now it’s like now it’s like you know a

974
00:37:59,090 –> 00:38:03,050
lot of states aren’t about Florida but

975
00:38:00,650 –> 00:38:04,760
if you’re under 21 years old if you have

976
00:38:03,050 –> 00:38:08,330
even like a trace amount of alcalΓ‘ your

977
00:38:04,760 –> 00:38:11,210
system your DUI that’s DC a city of DC

978
00:38:08,330 –> 00:38:12,500
that’s anybody yokka anybody yeah

979
00:38:11,210 –> 00:38:14,990
doesn’t matter how old you are if you

980
00:38:12,500 –> 00:38:17,630
blow anything by a friend of Mines dad

981
00:38:14,990 –> 00:38:19,310
had a glass of wine with dinner and was

982
00:38:17,630 –> 00:38:22,910
driving back home he got pulled over

983
00:38:19,310 –> 00:38:24,230
blew 0.02 got a deal yeah and that’s the

984
00:38:22,910 –> 00:38:25,520
way it’s going for every state that’s

985
00:38:24,230 –> 00:38:27,950
you know of course we have the federal

986
00:38:25,520 –> 00:38:29,510
government can withhold funds for road

987
00:38:27,950 –> 00:38:30,860
projects and all that and that’s the way

988
00:38:29,510 –> 00:38:32,510
that’s how it got down to 0.08 and

989
00:38:30,860 –> 00:38:33,410
that’s like it’s gonna go down point of

990
00:38:32,510 –> 00:38:36,200
flies and keep going down

991
00:38:33,410 –> 00:38:37,550
down and it’s your you know you want to

992
00:38:36,200 –> 00:38:39,560
encourage the same with speed limits you

993
00:38:37,550 –> 00:38:40,610
you want to encourage compliance you

994
00:38:39,560 –> 00:38:42,200
want to encourage people do the right

995
00:38:40,610 –> 00:38:43,760
thing right but when you have you know

996
00:38:42,200 –> 00:38:47,120
like a speed limit that people you can

997
00:38:43,760 –> 00:38:50,300
drive safely 65 but a set of 40 or you

998
00:38:47,120 –> 00:38:52,250
can drive perfectly fine at 0.09

999
00:38:50,300 –> 00:38:54,230
but now let’s point oh wait now yours

1000
00:38:52,250 –> 00:38:56,420
hardened criminal on the same level some

1001
00:38:54,230 –> 00:38:59,390
not just shit-faced right you know it

1002
00:38:56,420 –> 00:39:01,790
you know we we say our position on that

1003
00:38:59,390 –> 00:39:05,240
is point one two is generally the kind

1004
00:39:01,790 –> 00:39:06,680
of where you’re truly intoxicated are

1005
00:39:05,240 –> 00:39:09,020
different for different people that’s

1006
00:39:06,680 –> 00:39:10,130
kind of kind of like that point where

1007
00:39:09,020 –> 00:39:12,200
you reach the toxication where you’re

1008
00:39:10,130 –> 00:39:14,600
not seeing the drive right and that’s

1009
00:39:12,200 –> 00:39:18,110
that’s kind of the what we’ve seen in

1010
00:39:14,600 –> 00:39:19,400
studies but you know it’s is it’s it’s

1011
00:39:18,110 –> 00:39:21,260
about the money it’s not about safety

1012
00:39:19,400 –> 00:39:23,240
and if you look at any position the

1013
00:39:21,260 –> 00:39:25,700
National Motor Association takes with a

1014
00:39:23,240 –> 00:39:28,280
business I take its it’s just about the

1015
00:39:25,700 –> 00:39:29,870
money it’s not about safety at all yeah

1016
00:39:28,280 –> 00:39:30,920
that’s like when they were talking about

1017
00:39:29,870 –> 00:39:33,140
when they first started talking about

1018
00:39:30,920 –> 00:39:34,760
lowering it to 0.05 I said this isn’t

1019
00:39:33,140 –> 00:39:36,020
about safety this is fundraising yeah

1020
00:39:34,760 –> 00:39:37,840
absolutely this is a hundred percent

1021
00:39:36,020 –> 00:39:40,910
fundraising that’s all that it is and I

1022
00:39:37,840 –> 00:39:41,900
think that MADD Mothers Against Drunk

1023
00:39:40,910 –> 00:39:45,020
Driving was the one that was fighting

1024
00:39:41,900 –> 00:39:46,130
for it yeah there there there just take

1025
00:39:45,020 –> 00:39:48,020
the words of someone else they’re

1026
00:39:46,130 –> 00:39:50,330
propaganda Wars I mean there they are

1027
00:39:48,020 –> 00:39:53,000
they’re just propaganda whores they what

1028
00:39:50,330 –> 00:39:55,730
they say is is just it’s BS and their

1029
00:39:53,000 –> 00:39:57,590
fear mongers right anyone that you know

1030
00:39:55,730 –> 00:39:59,420
as we see if they know the famous

1031
00:39:57,590 –> 00:40:01,940
organization that uses the motherhood

1032
00:39:59,420 –> 00:40:04,340
you know maternal instinct to advocate

1033
00:40:01,940 –> 00:40:07,250
for a very socialist pro-government

1034
00:40:04,340 –> 00:40:08,600
fascist agenda I don’t fall for it and I

1035
00:40:07,250 –> 00:40:10,580
you know people don’t fall for moms

1036
00:40:08,600 –> 00:40:12,560
against you know moms demand action or

1037
00:40:10,580 –> 00:40:13,520
whatever and they shouldn’t fall for

1038
00:40:12,560 –> 00:40:15,350
moms against drunk driving

1039
00:40:13,520 –> 00:40:17,630
I don’t that there’s people you know

1040
00:40:15,350 –> 00:40:19,910
mothers even people these organizations

1041
00:40:17,630 –> 00:40:21,140
that truly feel they’re doing the right

1042
00:40:19,910 –> 00:40:22,850
thing I don’t fault them for that I

1043
00:40:21,140 –> 00:40:24,590
don’t think they’re bad people but what

1044
00:40:22,850 –> 00:40:26,690
what they do with the alligator for is

1045
00:40:24,590 –> 00:40:27,950
it goes against you know it does the

1046
00:40:26,690 –> 00:40:28,760
obviously one thing what that happen I

1047
00:40:27,950 –> 00:40:32,690
think right

1048
00:40:28,760 –> 00:40:36,860
so speed limits you kind of touched on

1049
00:40:32,690 –> 00:40:40,490
it really quickly I know that I know

1050
00:40:36,860 –> 00:40:41,660
that you on highways I just don’t

1051
00:40:40,490 –> 00:40:45,080
believe in them like they don’t exist

1052
00:40:41,660 –> 00:40:46,520
not really to me they do to police like

1053
00:40:45,080 –> 00:40:49,599
pulled behind me right

1054
00:40:46,520 –> 00:40:52,609
and to the cops that are around me but

1055
00:40:49,599 –> 00:40:55,760
so where do you guys stand on speed

1056
00:40:52,609 –> 00:40:57,170
limits so we are a stand it actually

1057
00:40:55,760 –> 00:40:58,550
follows in fact a lot of our positions

1058
00:40:57,170 –> 00:41:02,750
follow this is there’s something called

1059
00:40:58,550 –> 00:41:04,220
the uniform traffic code which is kind

1060
00:41:02,750 –> 00:41:06,680
of like the policy manual for all

1061
00:41:04,220 –> 00:41:08,990
traffic engineers you know people build

1062
00:41:06,680 –> 00:41:11,420
roadways and traffic controls follow

1063
00:41:08,990 –> 00:41:14,240
this what it should be is it the 85th

1064
00:41:11,420 –> 00:41:17,150
percentile of the prevailing speed so

1065
00:41:14,240 –> 00:41:19,880
this is about 80 fit the 85th percentile

1066
00:41:17,150 –> 00:41:22,250
of free-flowing traffic so if you’re

1067
00:41:19,880 –> 00:41:23,869
driving you know if you can safely drive

1068
00:41:22,250 –> 00:41:26,810
down a highway there’s no obstructions

1069
00:41:23,869 –> 00:41:28,369
it’s flat there’s not like cross traffic

1070
00:41:26,810 –> 00:41:32,270
and go there safely see why people go

1071
00:41:28,369 –> 00:41:33,800
will go 65 and so we’d go to 84 the

1072
00:41:32,270 –> 00:41:36,320
percentile of that speeds but the speed

1073
00:41:33,800 –> 00:41:38,060
limit should be um you know there’s just

1074
00:41:36,320 –> 00:41:41,210
give you a quick story about the speed

1075
00:41:38,060 –> 00:41:42,680
limits the new your 3 Way there was a

1076
00:41:41,210 –> 00:41:46,040
study conducted in the New York Thruway

1077
00:41:42,680 –> 00:41:49,369
on the speed that was 55 the average

1078
00:41:46,040 –> 00:41:51,080
speed was 68 miles per hour and so they

1079
00:41:49,369 –> 00:41:52,849
wanted to you know someone in government

1080
00:41:51,080 –> 00:41:54,580
said we should raise this to 65 because

1081
00:41:52,849 –> 00:41:57,410
people are going to see see it anyway

1082
00:41:54,580 –> 00:41:59,089
overwhelmingly the the the response to

1083
00:41:57,410 –> 00:42:02,089
that was now people gonna go to start

1084
00:41:59,089 –> 00:42:04,339
going 78 right and so you know just

1085
00:42:02,089 –> 00:42:07,070
fear-mongering left and right so they

1086
00:42:04,339 –> 00:42:07,970
raised it from 55 to 68 and they studied

1087
00:42:07,070 –> 00:42:15,470
it for 18 months

1088
00:42:07,970 –> 00:42:17,540
I’m sorry 55 to 65 yeah so they they

1089
00:42:15,470 –> 00:42:19,580
raised it to 65 and if they study it for

1090
00:42:17,540 –> 00:42:22,430
18 months the average speed remained at

1091
00:42:19,580 –> 00:42:24,080
68 so setting speed limits really should

1092
00:42:22,430 –> 00:42:25,369
be and not just artificially low so they

1093
00:42:24,080 –> 00:42:26,930
can get pulled pull people over

1094
00:42:25,369 –> 00:42:30,020
indiscriminately and take money from

1095
00:42:26,930 –> 00:42:31,820
them when they’re we’re at where people

1096
00:42:30,020 –> 00:42:34,430
drive safely people do drive safely and

1097
00:42:31,820 –> 00:42:35,660
that’s another misconception you know if

1098
00:42:34,430 –> 00:42:36,560
you’re driving through a school zone or

1099
00:42:35,660 –> 00:42:37,550
something you see well kids on the side

1100
00:42:36,560 –> 00:42:38,990
of the road you’re not gonna go you’re

1101
00:42:37,550 –> 00:42:40,250
not you don’t care what the speed limit

1102
00:42:38,990 –> 00:42:41,839
is you’re gonna drive what you feel

1103
00:42:40,250 –> 00:42:44,000
safely or that your reaction time

1104
00:42:41,839 –> 00:42:46,910
weather conditions things like that

1105
00:42:44,000 –> 00:42:48,200
well people ignore that and fly through

1106
00:42:46,910 –> 00:42:50,450
a school zone every now and then of

1107
00:42:48,200 –> 00:42:51,950
course as well will they do it now yes

1108
00:42:50,450 –> 00:42:52,970
they do it with cops on the side of the

1109
00:42:51,950 –> 00:42:55,220
road they still do it

1110
00:42:52,970 –> 00:42:57,470
so you know a lot of it is fear

1111
00:42:55,220 –> 00:42:59,720
mongering but but we definitely should

1112
00:42:57,470 –> 00:43:00,020
be set us a tip or sometimes what what

1113
00:42:59,720 –> 00:43:02,830
the

1114
00:43:00,020 –> 00:43:04,510
Engineering what the engineer studies

1115
00:43:02,830 –> 00:43:07,460
right

1116
00:43:04,510 –> 00:43:10,580
so I know like here in Florida the speed

1117
00:43:07,460 –> 00:43:13,700
moments actually are terrible not at all

1118
00:43:10,580 –> 00:43:17,360
no no they really aren’t like it’s 40 on

1119
00:43:13,700 –> 00:43:19,280
most streets that aren’t 40 45 yeah yeah

1120
00:43:17,360 –> 00:43:22,400
I live in a residence she’s 45 so okay

1121
00:43:19,280 –> 00:43:24,680
yeah and also that there were there at

1122
00:43:22,400 –> 00:43:26,150
least one in Florida the law enforcement

1123
00:43:24,680 –> 00:43:29,540
here seems to be pretty hands-off

1124
00:43:26,150 –> 00:43:30,680
generally about traffic anyway I I Drive

1125
00:43:29,540 –> 00:43:32,210
all over Tampa Bay all over the state of

1126
00:43:30,680 –> 00:43:34,340
Florida really they’re sticklers for

1127
00:43:32,210 –> 00:43:36,980
parking though parking yes and on the

1128
00:43:34,340 –> 00:43:39,380
hallways they’re pretty strict but yeah

1129
00:43:36,980 –> 00:43:41,630
III don’t think but good things to say

1130
00:43:39,380 –> 00:43:44,750
about the cops here just really like you

1131
00:43:41,630 –> 00:43:45,920
know but III think an overwhelming wait

1132
00:43:44,750 –> 00:43:49,670
if you let you know going back to red

1133
00:43:45,920 –> 00:43:51,920
light cameras and try n roadblocks your

1134
00:43:49,670 –> 00:43:54,020
your just your rank and file patrol guys

1135
00:43:51,920 –> 00:43:56,000
absolutely hate them I’ve never okay

1136
00:43:54,020 –> 00:43:58,010
nobody doing this is 2013 I’ve never met

1137
00:43:56,000 –> 00:44:00,590
a police officer just a rank and file a

1138
00:43:58,010 –> 00:44:02,270
kind of guy that likes the cameras or

1139
00:44:00,590 –> 00:44:04,700
likes roadblocks now let’s let’s say

1140
00:44:02,270 –> 00:44:06,080
they’ll they’ll do it as overtime but

1141
00:44:04,700 –> 00:44:07,609
they don’t really they don’t look that

1142
00:44:06,080 –> 00:44:09,320
far into it but they don’t like them

1143
00:44:07,609 –> 00:44:11,660
they like oh I have to do it or it’s

1144
00:44:09,320 –> 00:44:13,490
over time I get bills to pay I get that

1145
00:44:11,660 –> 00:44:15,730
but but overwhelmingly that’s not the

1146
00:44:13,490 –> 00:44:18,410
police aren’t supportive of that great

1147
00:44:15,730 –> 00:44:20,480
so if somebody were to get a red light

1148
00:44:18,410 –> 00:44:22,460
ticket is there do you guys have

1149
00:44:20,480 –> 00:44:24,680
directions on how yeah so we fight it

1150
00:44:22,460 –> 00:44:26,390
yeah so we have if you want to become a

1151
00:44:24,680 –> 00:44:27,680
member or not again I don’t work for

1152
00:44:26,390 –> 00:44:30,500
them I don’t take any money from from

1153
00:44:27,680 –> 00:44:32,570
this association but membership super

1154
00:44:30,500 –> 00:44:34,520
cheap it’s like 10 or 15 bucks and they

1155
00:44:32,570 –> 00:44:37,040
have a second 200 page document on how

1156
00:44:34,520 –> 00:44:39,109
to fight tickets that’s every ticket and

1157
00:44:37,040 –> 00:44:40,190
I I’ve been through it it’s a big book

1158
00:44:39,109 –> 00:44:41,869
that you download for free when you

1159
00:44:40,190 –> 00:44:44,240
become a member and it has really good

1160
00:44:41,869 –> 00:44:45,440
advice on speeding how to fight speeding

1161
00:44:44,240 –> 00:44:46,520
tickets yourself and all that it’s

1162
00:44:45,440 –> 00:44:48,650
actually really good

1163
00:44:46,520 –> 00:44:49,820
specific to Road that camera it’s really

1164
00:44:48,650 –> 00:44:52,400
funny

1165
00:44:49,820 –> 00:44:54,619
so and let’s let’s go to Tennessee for

1166
00:44:52,400 –> 00:44:56,510
instance and Tennessee if you get any

1167
00:44:54,619 –> 00:44:59,960
speed a speeding camera ticket at a red

1168
00:44:56,510 –> 00:45:01,670
light ticket you get sense he was a $50

1169
00:44:59,960 –> 00:45:04,400
ticket if you don’t pay it after 60 days

1170
00:45:01,670 –> 00:45:06,440
it becomes like 100 125 right in

1171
00:45:04,400 –> 00:45:07,760
Tennessee if you don’t pay a kit a road

1172
00:45:06,440 –> 00:45:10,040
light camera ticket absolutely nothing

1173
00:45:07,760 –> 00:45:12,020
happens to you it’s codified in Titan

1174
00:45:10,040 –> 00:45:13,430
content and the state code so it’s

1175
00:45:12,020 –> 00:45:13,700
Tennessee codes they annotated have you

1176
00:45:13,430 –> 00:45:17,000
file

1177
00:45:13,700 –> 00:45:19,010
eight 198 six subsection M specifically

1178
00:45:17,000 –> 00:45:21,380
says non-payment of a red light camera

1179
00:45:19,010 –> 00:45:23,270
ticket has no bearing it cannot affect

1180
00:45:21,380 –> 00:45:25,430
your credit report it can’t go on your

1181
00:45:23,270 –> 00:45:26,660
license it can’t be reported nothing

1182
00:45:25,430 –> 00:45:27,890
happened so if you don’t pay in

1183
00:45:26,660 –> 00:45:29,569
Tennessee absolutely nothing happens

1184
00:45:27,890 –> 00:45:31,549
though they’ll keep asking you for money

1185
00:45:29,569 –> 00:45:33,319
and then when there were like camera

1186
00:45:31,549 –> 00:45:34,670
company doesn’t get payment they’ll send

1187
00:45:33,319 –> 00:45:35,990
to the other scam your organizations

1188
00:45:34,670 –> 00:45:38,240
that look like a law firm said you were

1189
00:45:35,990 –> 00:45:40,280
obligated to pay this so I get was funny

1190
00:45:38,240 –> 00:45:41,869
when when I first started you know and

1191
00:45:40,280 –> 00:45:44,299
2013 when I first started getting public

1192
00:45:41,869 –> 00:45:45,770
with this I’d be on the news and radio

1193
00:45:44,299 –> 00:45:48,380
stations stuff and they’d say that’s not

1194
00:45:45,770 –> 00:45:49,970
really true I see it absolutely it’s

1195
00:45:48,380 –> 00:45:52,010
look it up they look it up like watching

1196
00:45:49,970 –> 00:45:53,299
this more to that and so finally it’s

1197
00:45:52,010 –> 00:45:54,890
like let’s put it into this so I went to

1198
00:45:53,299 –> 00:45:57,319
a city council meeting I said something

1199
00:45:54,890 –> 00:45:58,790
to it and the city councilmen were like

1200
00:45:57,319 –> 00:46:01,130
oh that’s they’ve read it like

1201
00:45:58,790 –> 00:46:03,049
interesting and then they asked the

1202
00:46:01,130 –> 00:46:05,270
police chief and the city attorney they

1203
00:46:03,049 –> 00:46:06,859
said you know we’re reading 55 eat 198

1204
00:46:05,270 –> 00:46:09,380
subsection M and it specifically says

1205
00:46:06,859 –> 00:46:12,109
that you don’t pay nothing happens and

1206
00:46:09,380 –> 00:46:13,579
they’re like yeah technically nothing we

1207
00:46:12,109 –> 00:46:15,740
can do but you should still pay us the

1208
00:46:13,579 –> 00:46:17,690
right thing to do and then the city

1209
00:46:15,740 –> 00:46:19,220
attorney was like yeah nothing happens

1210
00:46:17,690 –> 00:46:20,690
if you don’t pay it like we’re not

1211
00:46:19,220 –> 00:46:22,010
allowed to do anything just rip it up

1212
00:46:20,690 –> 00:46:24,260
throw it away but we still think you

1213
00:46:22,010 –> 00:46:25,369
should pay but just give us money just

1214
00:46:24,260 –> 00:46:26,750
give the money okay just give the

1215
00:46:25,369 –> 00:46:30,260
government your hard-earned money but

1216
00:46:26,750 –> 00:46:31,339
right that’s and so in in Florida what

1217
00:46:30,260 –> 00:46:34,940
has a for it’s a little bit different

1218
00:46:31,339 –> 00:46:36,349
it’s unfortunate but you know you get a

1219
00:46:34,940 –> 00:46:38,809
basically a non-moving kind of

1220
00:46:36,349 –> 00:46:40,730
infraction if you don’t pay it then the

1221
00:46:38,809 –> 00:46:42,980
red light camera company will then ask

1222
00:46:40,730 –> 00:46:45,349
the circuit court to write you a uniform

1223
00:46:42,980 –> 00:46:46,490
traffic citation and then you then have

1224
00:46:45,349 –> 00:46:49,040
to then fight that in court

1225
00:46:46,490 –> 00:46:51,290
yeah I was like man if I ever get one

1226
00:46:49,040 –> 00:46:52,609
I’m not paying antenna so you don’t pay

1227
00:46:51,290 –> 00:46:53,710
it but in Florida you do have to address

1228
00:46:52,609 –> 00:46:56,660
it like I said

1229
00:46:53,710 –> 00:46:59,839
Yukie first of all they don’t know who

1230
00:46:56,660 –> 00:47:02,270
was driving how how can a police officer

1231
00:46:59,839 –> 00:47:03,859
sign a uniform traffic citation and give

1232
00:47:02,270 –> 00:47:05,630
it to somebody not knowing if they were

1233
00:47:03,859 –> 00:47:07,160
actually driving or not you’re sliding

1234
00:47:05,630 –> 00:47:09,020
the owner of the vehicle not the driver

1235
00:47:07,160 –> 00:47:10,609
and when they go on the news and all

1236
00:47:09,020 –> 00:47:12,290
that and they said you know we’ve been

1237
00:47:10,609 –> 00:47:14,030
so many of these drivers like you don’t

1238
00:47:12,290 –> 00:47:15,230
know who of any of those people running

1239
00:47:14,030 –> 00:47:17,270
red lights you just gave it to the owner

1240
00:47:15,230 –> 00:47:19,040
of the vehicle and say well the owner of

1241
00:47:17,270 –> 00:47:21,619
the vehicle can can sign an affidavit

1242
00:47:19,040 –> 00:47:23,540
saying who was driving so now then if a

1243
00:47:21,619 –> 00:47:25,190
mechanic or someone driving my car runs

1244
00:47:23,540 –> 00:47:27,710
a red light I wasn’t driving it and then

1245
00:47:25,190 –> 00:47:29,780
I’m then obligated to a

1246
00:47:27,710 –> 00:47:31,550
write a ticket to a friend or some of us

1247
00:47:29,780 –> 00:47:33,530
working on my car and to give them a

1248
00:47:31,550 –> 00:47:34,910
ticket when I don’t even know if it was

1249
00:47:33,530 –> 00:47:37,150
they were the one driving they’re just

1250
00:47:34,910 –> 00:47:39,560
kind of this whole ridiculous web of

1251
00:47:37,150 –> 00:47:40,640
making accusations Casella people say

1252
00:47:39,560 –> 00:47:43,430
but it doesn’t work that way

1253
00:47:40,640 –> 00:47:44,930
if a police officer you know on the

1254
00:47:43,430 –> 00:47:47,119
police officer sees you do it fine but

1255
00:47:44,930 –> 00:47:49,040
but just give me tickets that happens

1256
00:47:47,119 –> 00:47:50,960
the be the owner of the vehicle it’s

1257
00:47:49,040 –> 00:47:55,369
it’s it makes a mockery of the other

1258
00:47:50,960 –> 00:47:58,880
system in my opinion right yeah I know

1259
00:47:55,369 –> 00:48:01,700
that a Stephen Ruth yeah Stephen Ruth a

1260
00:47:58,880 –> 00:48:03,320
red light Robin Long Island yep yep open

1261
00:48:01,700 –> 00:48:05,780
yeah open new year look up his videos on

1262
00:48:03,320 –> 00:48:07,609
YouTube he’s great yeah yeah I know it’s

1263
00:48:05,780 –> 00:48:10,160
been a long time but yeah he he’s uh

1264
00:48:07,609 –> 00:48:12,830
he’s definitely not someone I would I’m

1265
00:48:10,160 –> 00:48:16,160
not that ballsy but he’s great yeah yeah

1266
00:48:12,830 –> 00:48:18,109
I knew that he was going around and and

1267
00:48:16,160 –> 00:48:19,820
I’m guessing that it’s New York so the

1268
00:48:18,109 –> 00:48:22,099
the red light laws are probably much

1269
00:48:19,820 –> 00:48:23,210
worse than yeah almost anywhere else in

1270
00:48:22,099 –> 00:48:25,099
California it’s like three to five

1271
00:48:23,210 –> 00:48:26,630
hundred dollars that’s not surprising

1272
00:48:25,099 –> 00:48:28,490
you down a little bit but he was going

1273
00:48:26,630 –> 00:48:31,540
around and he was taking like a long

1274
00:48:28,490 –> 00:48:33,800
pole or something in yeah yeah yeah

1275
00:48:31,540 –> 00:48:36,200
pushing I don’t advocate that and

1276
00:48:33,800 –> 00:48:38,330
neither does the NMA but it’s hilarious

1277
00:48:36,200 –> 00:48:41,990
but it’s funny and he was just pushing

1278
00:48:38,330 –> 00:48:44,420
it up and I know he did an interview

1279
00:48:41,990 –> 00:48:46,280
with some station but in front of a

1280
00:48:44,420 –> 00:48:47,750
deuce yeah he he called a news crew to

1281
00:48:46,280 –> 00:48:49,220
the intersection said you know said

1282
00:48:47,750 –> 00:48:51,320
here’s you know these are stupid looks

1283
00:48:49,220 –> 00:48:52,700
how stupid I think they are and your

1284
00:48:51,320 –> 00:48:54,650
pores like that just happen did you just

1285
00:48:52,700 –> 00:48:56,480
do that he’s like yeah so but they did

1286
00:48:54,650 –> 00:48:58,250
they didn’t air it right I don’t know

1287
00:48:56,480 –> 00:48:59,990
it’s on YouTube but I don’t know I would

1288
00:48:58,250 –> 00:49:01,339
assume I know I got aired because it

1289
00:48:59,990 –> 00:49:02,599
that was a part of the story it

1290
00:49:01,339 –> 00:49:04,550
definitely got aired I mean he’s done it

1291
00:49:02,599 –> 00:49:06,140
several times right yeah no well so I

1292
00:49:04,550 –> 00:49:10,609
know that’s one like I think one of the

1293
00:49:06,140 –> 00:49:12,380
times the the the Internet service

1294
00:49:10,609 –> 00:49:14,060
provider that did the internet to the

1295
00:49:12,380 –> 00:49:17,390
red light cameras was the same one that

1296
00:49:14,060 –> 00:49:18,859
owned the news station and they said

1297
00:49:17,390 –> 00:49:20,599
you’re not airing yeah

1298
00:49:18,859 –> 00:49:23,240
well it’s just yeah that doesn’t

1299
00:49:20,599 –> 00:49:25,599
surprise me just like if you look at who

1300
00:49:23,240 –> 00:49:29,000
owns these these photo enforcement

1301
00:49:25,599 –> 00:49:30,320
contractors it ends up going to like

1302
00:49:29,000 –> 00:49:31,820
some kind of investment company like

1303
00:49:30,320 –> 00:49:33,680
Berkshire Hathaway or I’m sorry

1304
00:49:31,820 –> 00:49:35,930
Berkshire Hathaway their own insurance

1305
00:49:33,680 –> 00:49:38,510
companies right and so that leaves me

1306
00:49:35,930 –> 00:49:40,220
another point where I often whenever I

1307
00:49:38,510 –> 00:49:41,060
did this do these interviews about red

1308
00:49:40,220 –> 00:49:42,740
light cameras

1309
00:49:41,060 –> 00:49:43,850
reporters will always come to me and say

1310
00:49:42,740 –> 00:49:46,670
well the Insurance Institute for Highway

1311
00:49:43,850 –> 00:49:49,010
Safety says that they do this great job

1312
00:49:46,670 –> 00:49:51,170
and they just reduce accidents it’s like

1313
00:49:49,010 –> 00:49:52,910
they work for the insurance company are

1314
00:49:51,170 –> 00:49:54,350
you really that dense right when you get

1315
00:49:52,910 –> 00:49:56,570
a red light camera ticket it raises your

1316
00:49:54,350 –> 00:49:58,550
rates and they make money from it they

1317
00:49:56,570 –> 00:50:00,140
do not represent safety of the motorist

1318
00:49:58,550 –> 00:50:01,790
they represent the insurance companies

1319
00:50:00,140 –> 00:50:03,200
that pay them and I’m not trying to

1320
00:50:01,790 –> 00:50:04,820
sound like conspiracy theory it’s

1321
00:50:03,200 –> 00:50:06,740
literally insurance isn’t the title of

1322
00:50:04,820 –> 00:50:08,480
this organization okay they work for the

1323
00:50:06,740 –> 00:50:10,340
insurance companies any argument they

1324
00:50:08,480 –> 00:50:11,810
put out any study they put out has to be

1325
00:50:10,340 –> 00:50:13,310
known that it’s viewed through the lens

1326
00:50:11,810 –> 00:50:14,780
of their work for the insurance

1327
00:50:13,310 –> 00:50:18,260
companies and they are looking out for

1328
00:50:14,780 –> 00:50:22,010
the bottom line of their their clients

1329
00:50:18,260 –> 00:50:23,300
basically say yeah I hi people I I’ve

1330
00:50:22,010 –> 00:50:24,650
never this is my first time on a podcast

1331
00:50:23,300 –> 00:50:27,320
yeah the grounds like it we’re obligated

1332
00:50:24,650 –> 00:50:29,330
to say hi to people I mean mass Jacob

1333
00:50:27,320 –> 00:50:30,620
Maria Sarah says thanks for reminding me

1334
00:50:29,330 –> 00:50:32,240
to pay a parking ticket for the meter

1335
00:50:30,620 –> 00:50:35,270
ending 5 minutes for I got to it

1336
00:50:32,240 –> 00:50:38,450
yeah I hate parking tickets so much on

1337
00:50:35,270 –> 00:50:40,130
and I I’ve always lived downtown Reese I

1338
00:50:38,450 –> 00:50:43,640
live in downtown Clearwater now so I’m

1339
00:50:40,130 –> 00:50:45,290
always subject to that and it is where

1340
00:50:43,640 –> 00:50:45,800
it is but let me it ruins I mentioned

1341
00:50:45,290 –> 00:50:48,680
Clearwater

1342
00:50:45,800 –> 00:50:51,080
I want to real quick just something I’m

1343
00:50:48,680 –> 00:50:52,820
working on right now the and the city of

1344
00:50:51,080 –> 00:50:54,620
Clearwater the road like camera

1345
00:50:52,820 –> 00:50:58,040
contractors coming up for renewal next

1346
00:50:54,620 –> 00:51:01,250
week okay and so as part of that I’ve

1347
00:50:58,040 –> 00:51:03,980
done an enormous enormous amount of open

1348
00:51:01,250 –> 00:51:05,780
records requests looking to emails

1349
00:51:03,980 –> 00:51:07,970
looking at the reports looking at stouts

1350
00:51:05,780 –> 00:51:10,730
looking at traffic counts a great

1351
00:51:07,970 –> 00:51:13,130
personal expense to me Yabo’s and I

1352
00:51:10,730 –> 00:51:15,020
intend money but and this isn’t your

1353
00:51:13,130 –> 00:51:16,250
full-time job so this is why it’s not my

1354
00:51:15,020 –> 00:51:18,230
full-time just what you’re doing when

1355
00:51:16,250 –> 00:51:20,980
you’re off of work what I’m off work and

1356
00:51:18,230 –> 00:51:24,800
I my full-time job is very full-time but

1357
00:51:20,980 –> 00:51:26,660
it’s done a lot of work and so on

1358
00:51:24,800 –> 00:51:28,010
let me real quick paint a picture for

1359
00:51:26,660 –> 00:51:30,470
those in the city of Clearwater there’s

1360
00:51:28,010 –> 00:51:32,330
two intersections that are controlled by

1361
00:51:30,470 –> 00:51:33,530
red-light cameras there’s only too much

1362
00:51:32,330 –> 00:51:35,300
the only two intersections they’re

1363
00:51:33,530 –> 00:51:36,710
pretty big ones it’s again sorry if

1364
00:51:35,300 –> 00:51:38,990
you’re not in Ellis County at home it’s

1365
00:51:36,710 –> 00:51:40,970
it’s Beltran Gulf to Bay and then

1366
00:51:38,990 –> 00:51:43,750
chestnut and Fort Harrison as you come

1367
00:51:40,970 –> 00:51:48,470
off the causeway for a Clearwater Beach

1368
00:51:43,750 –> 00:51:50,450
so real quick so in 2012 when the

1369
00:51:48,470 –> 00:51:52,070
cameras were installed in city of

1370
00:51:50,450 –> 00:51:54,920
Clearwater in 2012 there at these two

1371
00:51:52,070 –> 00:51:58,970
intersections there are 92 crashes

1372
00:51:54,920 –> 00:52:02,059
in 2012 and 2017 and went up to 141

1373
00:51:58,970 –> 00:52:03,950
crashes accidents of these intersections

1374
00:52:02,059 –> 00:52:05,240
so let’s keep my they installed the road

1375
00:52:03,950 –> 00:52:06,530
light cameras they want accidents to go

1376
00:52:05,240 –> 00:52:08,450
down they want Road light rain to go

1377
00:52:06,530 –> 00:52:09,680
down right that’s the – you can make a

1378
00:52:08,450 –> 00:52:11,119
gazillion arguments got red light

1379
00:52:09,680 –> 00:52:13,040
cameras believe me I can talk about it

1380
00:52:11,119 –> 00:52:14,960
all day but what comes down to some of

1381
00:52:13,040 –> 00:52:16,040
the two issues which is it reduces red

1382
00:52:14,960 –> 00:52:17,299
light they want to reduce red light

1383
00:52:16,040 –> 00:52:19,280
running they wanted to reduce accidents

1384
00:52:17,299 –> 00:52:22,160
so we look at the accidents that’s

1385
00:52:19,280 –> 00:52:25,640
ninety two crashes in 2012 all the way

1386
00:52:22,160 –> 00:52:27,410
up to 141 crashes and 2017 the argument

1387
00:52:25,640 –> 00:52:29,150
to that what chief slaughter says is

1388
00:52:27,410 –> 00:52:30,890
well traffic counts have gone way up

1389
00:52:29,150 –> 00:52:33,170
because the economy’s gotten better and

1390
00:52:30,890 –> 00:52:36,619
try the tribe it goes up accidents go up

1391
00:52:33,170 –> 00:52:38,420
the volume did increase we’re looking at

1392
00:52:36,619 –> 00:52:40,130
city of Clearwater traffic stats and

1393
00:52:38,420 –> 00:52:41,690
we’re looking at forward Pinellas

1394
00:52:40,130 –> 00:52:43,460
traffic stats words Pinellas is the

1395
00:52:41,690 –> 00:52:45,290
Metropolitan Planning Organization it’s

1396
00:52:43,460 –> 00:52:46,849
an official County it’s an arm of the

1397
00:52:45,290 –> 00:52:49,069
county government they do they do

1398
00:52:46,849 –> 00:52:50,500
traffic counts every year the traffic

1399
00:52:49,069 –> 00:52:52,490
volumes stayed the same

1400
00:52:50,500 –> 00:52:53,290
accidents went way up traffic volumes

1401
00:52:52,490 –> 00:52:56,510
stayed the same

1402
00:52:53,290 –> 00:52:57,920
so that’s not an argument they are the

1403
00:52:56,510 –> 00:52:59,420
fact of the matter is you cannot spin

1404
00:52:57,920 –> 00:53:02,150
accidents these intersections have

1405
00:52:59,420 –> 00:53:02,960
gotten infinitely more dangerous so

1406
00:53:02,150 –> 00:53:05,869
let’s take that out of the equation

1407
00:53:02,960 –> 00:53:07,819
let’s look at how many red light runners

1408
00:53:05,869 –> 00:53:08,690
we can count that cuz we know how many

1409
00:53:07,819 –> 00:53:11,089
tickets are given out of these

1410
00:53:08,690 –> 00:53:12,799
intersections so 2013 which is the first

1411
00:53:11,089 –> 00:53:14,660
full year that these cameras were in

1412
00:53:12,799 –> 00:53:15,770
operation the city of Clearwater they

1413
00:53:14,660 –> 00:53:17,119
issued eight thousand two hundred

1414
00:53:15,770 –> 00:53:20,780
seventy five tickets to red light

1415
00:53:17,119 –> 00:53:22,609
runners and 2018 they issued seventeen

1416
00:53:20,780 –> 00:53:25,400
thousand six hundred and ninety one

1417
00:53:22,609 –> 00:53:27,020
tickets so red light running and then

1418
00:53:25,400 –> 00:53:28,220
with this perspective from the time they

1419
00:53:27,020 –> 00:53:32,240
were installed the first full year of

1420
00:53:28,220 –> 00:53:33,470
operation until 2018 doubled red light

1421
00:53:32,240 –> 00:53:36,319
running has doubled after the

1422
00:53:33,470 –> 00:53:40,160
installation these cameras now look at

1423
00:53:36,319 –> 00:53:43,069
that and and tell me that that that this

1424
00:53:40,160 –> 00:53:45,380
is a good idea and so according fruit so

1425
00:53:43,069 –> 00:53:46,970
for the city it is like they make a lot

1426
00:53:45,380 –> 00:53:48,890
of money they’re making the tunnel a lot

1427
00:53:46,970 –> 00:53:50,390
of money and you know look at access

1428
00:53:48,890 –> 00:53:51,470
have gone way up red light running has

1429
00:53:50,390 –> 00:53:52,880
doubled since these cameras are

1430
00:53:51,470 –> 00:53:55,160
installed and I can back all this up

1431
00:53:52,880 –> 00:53:56,839
with data okay this is actually the the

1432
00:53:55,160 –> 00:53:58,280
tickets come from red flags which is the

1433
00:53:56,839 –> 00:53:59,990
city’s red light camera company provider

1434
00:53:58,280 –> 00:54:01,250
every month they send you how many

1435
00:53:59,990 –> 00:54:02,990
tickets were given ask you to add them

1436
00:54:01,250 –> 00:54:04,579
all up way too much time I spent on that

1437
00:54:02,990 –> 00:54:06,140
but it’s worth it so I got good info

1438
00:54:04,579 –> 00:54:07,490
that note I guarantee nobody else looks

1439
00:54:06,140 –> 00:54:08,390
at this right including the police

1440
00:54:07,490 –> 00:54:11,960
Darren

1441
00:54:08,390 –> 00:54:14,420
but I can show in the report so I you

1442
00:54:11,960 –> 00:54:16,160
know I happen to I called the the chief

1443
00:54:14,420 –> 00:54:17,450
slaughter the Clearwater Police Chief is

1444
00:54:16,160 –> 00:54:19,340
actually a great guy I like him a lot

1445
00:54:17,450 –> 00:54:22,190
the Clearwater police officers are great

1446
00:54:19,340 –> 00:54:23,900
people I said hey I just just curious

1447
00:54:22,190 –> 00:54:27,370
you know are you that’s really the first

1448
00:54:23,900 –> 00:54:27,370
time that’s ever been said on this show

1449
00:54:31,570 –> 00:54:37,400
but they’re great people but I I asked

1450
00:54:35,690 –> 00:54:38,750
the the the Chief of Police I said hey

1451
00:54:37,400 –> 00:54:40,310
you know I live in Clearwater I’m just

1452
00:54:38,750 –> 00:54:41,840
you know I see the world like camera

1453
00:54:40,310 –> 00:54:44,030
company the Congress coming back for

1454
00:54:41,840 –> 00:54:45,740
renewal what do you think about it his

1455
00:54:44,030 –> 00:54:47,570
first question was why are you trying to

1456
00:54:45,740 –> 00:54:50,180
sell more of them he had no idea who I

1457
00:54:47,570 –> 00:54:52,520
was I said no I’m no one’s asking a

1458
00:54:50,180 –> 00:54:54,170
question because yeah it’s nothing to be

1459
00:54:52,520 –> 00:54:55,850
we’re gonna renew it in August we’re

1460
00:54:54,170 –> 00:54:57,290
gonna put a fresh we’re gonna give it a

1461
00:54:55,850 –> 00:55:01,100
City Council to be renewed in August

1462
00:54:57,290 –> 00:55:03,080
right and so I said okay well what is a

1463
00:55:01,100 –> 00:55:05,840
good what does a good successful program

1464
00:55:03,080 –> 00:55:07,190
look like you and you don’t didn’t

1465
00:55:05,840 –> 00:55:08,720
really give me a straight answer and I

1466
00:55:07,190 –> 00:55:09,620
said okay well you know and I’m not

1467
00:55:08,720 –> 00:55:11,570
gonna give him everything I just told

1468
00:55:09,620 –> 00:55:12,950
you guys that’s not gonna be told to

1469
00:55:11,570 –> 00:55:14,720
anyone told that the City Council

1470
00:55:12,950 –> 00:55:15,860
meeting when this contract comes up all

1471
00:55:14,720 –> 00:55:17,540
this information can be jogged out there

1472
00:55:15,860 –> 00:55:18,680
and they they can’t spend it cuz that’s

1473
00:55:17,540 –> 00:55:21,290
what they do is they try to spin it they

1474
00:55:18,680 –> 00:55:22,910
flying people to spend the data but you

1475
00:55:21,290 –> 00:55:24,440
know I said what does a successful

1476
00:55:22,910 –> 00:55:26,300
program look like to you and it didn’t

1477
00:55:24,440 –> 00:55:28,160
didn’t give me an answer and I said well

1478
00:55:26,300 –> 00:55:29,720
you know they’re there access have gone

1479
00:55:28,160 –> 00:55:32,450
way up and read like running has gone

1480
00:55:29,720 –> 00:55:34,250
way up these intersections you guys said

1481
00:55:32,450 –> 00:55:36,230
well you know my thing is is if they’re

1482
00:55:34,250 –> 00:55:37,070
you know if you’re running if you’re

1483
00:55:36,230 –> 00:55:38,420
running a red light you should get a

1484
00:55:37,070 –> 00:55:41,000
ticket it’s all I got to say about that

1485
00:55:38,420 –> 00:55:45,320
Soroka and that’s where it stands so

1486
00:55:41,000 –> 00:55:47,120
next actually it’ll be yeah what’s his

1487
00:55:45,320 –> 00:55:49,310
Thursday today is Thursday yes yeah

1488
00:55:47,120 –> 00:55:52,310
awesome yeah next this coming Wednesday

1489
00:55:49,310 –> 00:55:54,500
is the City Council meeting and there’s

1490
00:55:52,310 –> 00:55:55,850
the the city of Clearwater is very open

1491
00:55:54,500 –> 00:55:57,950
transparent they actually allow you to

1492
00:55:55,850 –> 00:55:59,390
go speak not only at the beginning but

1493
00:55:57,950 –> 00:56:01,190
they allow you to speak after so if

1494
00:55:59,390 –> 00:56:02,780
there’s like other agenda item right and

1495
00:56:01,190 –> 00:56:04,250
then they’ll say well we want to pass an

1496
00:56:02,780 –> 00:56:06,050
ordinance or you know something to do

1497
00:56:04,250 –> 00:56:07,700
this they actually give citizens a point

1498
00:56:06,050 –> 00:56:10,280
the chance to speak after the city

1499
00:56:07,700 –> 00:56:12,260
presents their case which is every city

1500
00:56:10,280 –> 00:56:13,340
should do that in my opinion so the

1501
00:56:12,260 –> 00:56:14,780
city’s going to go give their case

1502
00:56:13,340 –> 00:56:16,460
they’re gonna plea they’re going to give

1503
00:56:14,780 –> 00:56:18,350
their BS and I’m gonna give my

1504
00:56:16,460 –> 00:56:20,420
information to them for three minutes

1505
00:56:18,350 –> 00:56:22,280
and then they vote on it and so I’m

1506
00:56:20,420 –> 00:56:24,260
really hoping

1507
00:56:22,280 –> 00:56:26,930
I’m really hoping because this is a

1508
00:56:24,260 –> 00:56:29,780
multi-million dollar program and I don’t

1509
00:56:26,930 –> 00:56:31,910
know what’s up how much how much is a

1510
00:56:29,780 –> 00:56:32,990
red light ticket here I don’t know I’d

1511
00:56:31,910 –> 00:56:35,300
never believe it or not I’ve never

1512
00:56:32,990 –> 00:56:36,859
gotten a red light camera ticket was

1513
00:56:35,300 –> 00:56:38,359
another ever reporters like oh you just

1514
00:56:36,859 –> 00:56:40,580
posed to be mad you can take us all I’ve

1515
00:56:38,359 –> 00:56:43,700
never got to take it but I believe

1516
00:56:40,580 –> 00:56:46,490
they’re a hundred twenty-five ish maybe

1517
00:56:43,700 –> 00:56:48,950
a little bit less 125 so at seventeen

1518
00:56:46,490 –> 00:56:52,340
seventeen thousand yeah well and then

1519
00:56:48,950 –> 00:56:54,109
yeah it yeah it’s it gets really

1520
00:56:52,340 –> 00:56:56,900
convoluted because the the can’t that

1521
00:56:54,109 –> 00:56:59,570
company that runs E is actually actually

1522
00:56:56,900 –> 00:57:03,020
get quite a bit of money from this cost

1523
00:56:59,570 –> 00:57:04,869
a lot of money to do it right but yeah

1524
00:57:03,020 –> 00:57:07,010
it’s it’s it’s insane and they’re not

1525
00:57:04,869 –> 00:57:09,109
another thing to the city and this is

1526
00:57:07,010 –> 00:57:12,650
true with Tennessee every city when you

1527
00:57:09,109 –> 00:57:15,140
look at it is the police chief sets the

1528
00:57:12,650 –> 00:57:16,369
budget and they set how much money they

1529
00:57:15,140 –> 00:57:18,980
think that these tickets are going to

1530
00:57:16,369 –> 00:57:20,840
make for this city they always say every

1531
00:57:18,980 –> 00:57:22,490
day do I say we these are gonna reduce

1532
00:57:20,840 –> 00:57:23,780
red light Ryan so if you say it’s gonna

1533
00:57:22,490 –> 00:57:25,460
reduce red light running your effect

1534
00:57:23,780 –> 00:57:27,109
will be saying you’re expecting revenue

1535
00:57:25,460 –> 00:57:28,849
to go down at these intersections these

1536
00:57:27,109 –> 00:57:31,460
cameras every year it never happens a

1537
00:57:28,849 –> 00:57:33,800
city of clear water budgets five hundred

1538
00:57:31,460 –> 00:57:35,930
thousand dollars every year as revenue

1539
00:57:33,800 –> 00:57:37,310
to the city not total this is revenue to

1540
00:57:35,930 –> 00:57:39,349
the city of Clearwater five hundred

1541
00:57:37,310 –> 00:57:41,119
thousand dollars every single year so

1542
00:57:39,349 –> 00:57:42,859
they go to City Council and say in a

1543
00:57:41,119 –> 00:57:45,050
citizen and say we these will reduce red

1544
00:57:42,859 –> 00:57:46,849
light running mayor City Council these

1545
00:57:45,050 –> 00:57:48,140
will reduce red light running and then

1546
00:57:46,849 –> 00:57:48,740
they go right their budget and they put

1547
00:57:48,140 –> 00:57:50,450
on here

1548
00:57:48,740 –> 00:57:52,940
you know it’ll say the same or get more

1549
00:57:50,450 –> 00:57:55,339
so it’s double phase you know if it’s

1550
00:57:52,940 –> 00:57:57,109
it’s mind-boggling how it works but it

1551
00:57:55,339 –> 00:58:00,650
in it you know you wouldn’t think that a

1552
00:57:57,109 –> 00:58:02,599
government program would do the exact

1553
00:58:00,650 –> 00:58:06,950
opposite I know it is or whatever it is

1554
00:58:02,599 –> 00:58:09,200
that they’re trying to do I know I know

1555
00:58:06,950 –> 00:58:10,670
catch your breath folks it’s it’s all

1556
00:58:09,200 –> 00:58:18,230
about so more on people running red

1557
00:58:10,670 –> 00:58:20,020
lights look more people do it so that is

1558
00:58:18,230 –> 00:58:24,560
just about all the time we have actually

1559
00:58:20,020 –> 00:58:28,640
do man I have to ask you said you do

1560
00:58:24,560 –> 00:58:32,150
stand up do you see these do stand up

1561
00:58:28,640 –> 00:58:34,310
open mics so it’s a no we’re out of time

1562
00:58:32,150 –> 00:58:35,890
but I’ll give maybe we can go over its

1563
00:58:34,310 –> 00:58:39,339
podcast there’s nothing

1564
00:58:35,890 –> 00:58:40,839
you know network program yeah we don’t

1565
00:58:39,339 –> 00:58:44,019
have a commercial break I have to go to

1566
00:58:40,839 –> 00:58:45,430
yeah it was funny week so I I’ve been a

1567
00:58:44,019 –> 00:58:50,049
huge scene at comedy fan my whole life

1568
00:58:45,430 –> 00:58:51,759
and this time last year on they viewed

1569
00:58:50,049 –> 00:58:53,410
an open mic in downtown st. Petersburg

1570
00:58:51,759 –> 00:58:55,059
actually I used to lived there right a

1571
00:58:53,410 –> 00:58:57,670
block away from it it’s called Iberian

1572
00:58:55,059 –> 00:59:00,789
rooster and they do open mics I believe

1573
00:58:57,670 –> 00:59:02,440
on Wednesday nights and so I been there

1574
00:59:00,789 –> 00:59:06,190
to see it and I’ve always had this idea

1575
00:59:02,440 –> 00:59:09,279
to do open mic and so I I heard I think

1576
00:59:06,190 –> 00:59:10,779
a Tampa Bay Times reporter put on I got

1577
00:59:09,279 –> 00:59:12,970
Twitter his name’s Chris Spada he’s a

1578
00:59:10,779 –> 00:59:14,230
great guy he put out there he’s like hey

1579
00:59:12,970 –> 00:59:15,910
I want talk to someone and follow them

1580
00:59:14,230 –> 00:59:21,640
doing stand-up comedy for the first time

1581
00:59:15,910 –> 00:59:22,900
and so I yeah I my first stand-up comedy

1582
00:59:21,640 –> 00:59:25,809
if you couldn’t imagine how

1583
00:59:22,900 –> 00:59:27,849
nerve-racking it is that telling your

1584
00:59:25,809 –> 00:59:29,950
stupid dick jokes to people and hoping

1585
00:59:27,849 –> 00:59:31,450
they’ll laugh and like imagine doing

1586
00:59:29,950 –> 00:59:33,069
that from a big crowd of strange he’s

1587
00:59:31,450 –> 00:59:34,180
never met any of them before on stage

1588
00:59:33,069 –> 00:59:36,700
you’re trying to be funny

1589
00:59:34,180 –> 00:59:37,930
now imagine a reporter for the the

1590
00:59:36,700 –> 00:59:40,509
largest newspaper in the state of

1591
00:59:37,930 –> 00:59:42,009
Florida and a photographer documenting

1592
00:59:40,509 –> 00:59:42,670
everything you’re doing up there for

1593
00:59:42,009 –> 00:59:45,489
five minutes

1594
00:59:42,670 –> 00:59:48,549
it was so nerve-racking but at the end

1595
00:59:45,489 –> 00:59:51,460
of it I had a blast I I had so much fun

1596
00:59:48,549 –> 00:59:52,269
with it it was it was very scary but you

1597
00:59:51,460 –> 00:59:53,680
know when you’re out there you don’t

1598
00:59:52,269 –> 00:59:55,390
there’s somebody lights on you you don’t

1599
00:59:53,680 –> 00:59:56,980
see the crowd and you’re just like okay

1600
00:59:55,390 –> 00:59:58,480
in my head I’ll just tell myself

1601
00:59:56,980 –> 01:00:00,430
everyone’s laughing having fun they’re

1602
00:59:58,480 –> 01:00:02,710
probably sitting there but I had a lot

1603
01:00:00,430 –> 01:00:04,660
of fun with it and I ended up I thought

1604
01:00:02,710 –> 01:00:06,759
that this he did a story about it and

1605
01:00:04,660 –> 01:00:08,170
end up going on he it was like an online

1606
01:00:06,759 –> 01:00:11,079
story but okay maybe it’s just like a

1607
01:00:08,170 –> 01:00:15,249
little fun story they put online and so

1608
01:00:11,079 –> 01:00:16,569
I I was I was on Sunday morning I was

1609
01:00:15,249 –> 01:00:18,039
kind of I was leaving Turks gonna

1610
01:00:16,569 –> 01:00:19,509
another thing my dad never said Ben said

1611
01:00:18,039 –> 01:00:21,269
the most podcast as I’d left church on

1612
01:00:19,509 –> 01:00:23,950
Sunday is that true

1613
01:00:21,269 –> 01:00:27,009
yeah no I I don’t think that’s ever been

1614
01:00:23,950 –> 01:00:28,920
said on this podcast either like I had

1615
01:00:27,009 –> 01:00:31,210
to think about that one for a second

1616
01:00:28,920 –> 01:00:34,299
maybe I would believe you’re like he

1617
01:00:31,210 –> 01:00:35,650
does but well I go back to my car my

1618
01:00:34,299 –> 01:00:37,989
phone was blowing up and I was on the

1619
01:00:35,650 –> 01:00:40,210
front page of me holding a microphone

1620
01:00:37,989 –> 01:00:41,559
and telling dick jokes and so it was it

1621
01:00:40,210 –> 01:00:43,359
was a lot of fun it was the most

1622
01:00:41,559 –> 01:00:45,039
nerve-wracking thing and you know my

1623
01:00:43,359 –> 01:00:47,380
phone has just been blowing up since

1624
01:00:45,039 –> 01:00:49,480
then my dick jokes my Rosa Parks jokes

1625
01:00:47,380 –> 01:00:51,640
really took off and my phone

1626
01:00:49,480 –> 01:00:56,859
has been blowing up from like I’ve been

1627
01:00:51,640 –> 01:00:58,859
on Stephen Colbert Rosa Parks – yeah

1628
01:00:56,859 –> 01:01:02,020
we’ll talk about that off the air but

1629
01:00:58,859 –> 01:01:03,700
it’s not a racist joke I promise oh but

1630
01:01:02,020 –> 01:01:06,130
yeah my phone’s been blowing up I’ve

1631
01:01:03,700 –> 01:01:07,210
been on all kinds now I was like it was

1632
01:01:06,130 –> 01:01:11,710
the one time I did it yeah I was like

1633
01:01:07,210 –> 01:01:13,720
Stephen Colbert conversation but no I I

1634
01:01:11,710 –> 01:01:17,950
I had fun doing it and it was I’ll

1635
01:01:13,720 –> 01:01:19,930
probably never do it again so nice yeah

1636
01:01:17,950 –> 01:01:22,300
I had no idea I think I remember

1637
01:01:19,930 –> 01:01:23,680
somebody saying Axl’s doing stand-up

1638
01:01:22,300 –> 01:01:27,670
tonight and I think I talk to you like

1639
01:01:23,680 –> 01:01:30,609
twice axle he’s not that funny why would

1640
01:01:27,670 –> 01:01:31,480
he be doing that he’s kind of quiet this

1641
01:01:30,609 –> 01:01:35,950
would okay

1642
01:01:31,480 –> 01:01:38,290
all right I know it’s like I know I’m

1643
01:01:35,950 –> 01:01:40,420
such a nerd I mean like I could talk to

1644
01:01:38,290 –> 01:01:42,520
you about every stupid you know motorist

1645
01:01:40,420 –> 01:01:44,980
rights and transportation policy

1646
01:01:42,520 –> 01:01:46,840
initiative in the country that’s hard to

1647
01:01:44,980 –> 01:01:47,830
like yeah I do have I do enjoy funny

1648
01:01:46,840 –> 01:01:52,000
stuff every now and then

1649
01:01:47,830 –> 01:01:54,340
now I my my favorite stand-up is a Mike

1650
01:01:52,000 –> 01:01:55,480
Birbiglia he’s great he’s great he’s

1651
01:01:54,340 –> 01:01:57,790
great and I just went through and I

1652
01:01:55,480 –> 01:02:01,240
watched everything his again not every

1653
01:01:57,790 –> 01:02:03,010
day I watched him probably four times a

1654
01:02:01,240 –> 01:02:07,450
year I just went through them all in one

1655
01:02:03,010 –> 01:02:08,740
day the other day and yeah I gonna go

1656
01:02:07,450 –> 01:02:10,180
back to Stanhope you know a huge

1657
01:02:08,740 –> 01:02:13,150
inspiration to me both you know

1658
01:02:10,180 –> 01:02:17,080
professionally and comedic Lee his album

1659
01:02:13,150 –> 01:02:19,270
no refunds very libertarian yeah it cost

1660
01:02:17,080 –> 01:02:21,369
a lot of libertarian points and and he’s

1661
01:02:19,270 –> 01:02:24,160
absolutely hilarious i-i’ve seen him a

1662
01:02:21,369 –> 01:02:25,690
million times and his podcast is great I

1663
01:02:24,160 –> 01:02:28,030
never looked I’d never missed an episode

1664
01:02:25,690 –> 01:02:29,859
of his podcast that’s it he’s great

1665
01:02:28,030 –> 01:02:32,050
it’s almost as good as ours but almost

1666
01:02:29,859 –> 01:02:33,369
yeah not quiet I mean it doesn’t look

1667
01:02:32,050 –> 01:02:35,800
across the street from a Bernie Sanders

1668
01:02:33,369 –> 01:02:38,770
mailbox that’s true he’s beat but I mean

1669
01:02:35,800 –> 01:02:43,480
he might they probably busier I’ve never

1670
01:02:38,770 –> 01:02:47,800
been to his house but yeah yeah Mike

1671
01:02:43,480 –> 01:02:49,840
Birbiglia John Mulaney no Louie CK I

1672
01:02:47,800 –> 01:02:52,359
don’t care about that I don’t care about

1673
01:02:49,840 –> 01:02:53,710
that issue it’s Louie CK and he’s

1674
01:02:52,359 –> 01:02:54,730
comedian and I hate to tell you about

1675
01:02:53,710 –> 01:02:56,109
every comedian

1676
01:02:54,730 –> 01:02:58,630
is involved in that in some way shape

1677
01:02:56,109 –> 01:03:00,280
not me I’m mica media and I’m calling

1678
01:02:58,630 –> 01:03:02,710
dumb jokes I’m telling dumb stupid stats

1679
01:03:00,280 –> 01:03:05,589
about driving but right yeah big-time

1680
01:03:02,710 –> 01:03:11,109
comedian stability I’ll have some kind

1681
01:03:05,589 –> 01:03:13,119
of like horrible meaty story and yeah

1682
01:03:11,109 –> 01:03:21,250
axle he came and he talked to me about

1683
01:03:13,119 –> 01:03:23,650
driving statistics and when you’re

1684
01:03:21,250 –> 01:03:25,420
talking about you know about DUI is an

1685
01:03:23,650 –> 01:03:27,910
85th percentile of speed limits then we

1686
01:03:25,420 –> 01:03:30,160
went to the green room and oh my god I

1687
01:03:27,910 –> 01:03:36,130
didn’t think that because they all know

1688
01:03:30,160 –> 01:03:37,510
directions so do you have anything that

1689
01:03:36,130 –> 01:03:39,640
you would like to plug to tell the

1690
01:03:37,510 –> 01:03:41,530
people about tell I mean I’ll give you

1691
01:03:39,640 –> 01:03:43,300
however long you want to do it really no

1692
01:03:41,530 –> 01:03:45,070
I don’t have anything to add I I don’t

1693
01:03:43,300 –> 01:03:46,960
work for any and I work for him but I

1694
01:03:45,070 –> 01:03:48,760
definitely would get involved in

1695
01:03:46,960 –> 01:03:50,770
motorists or as the National motorist

1696
01:03:48,760 –> 01:03:53,109
Association you can just google that I

1697
01:03:50,770 –> 01:03:55,060
believe the websites motorist org to be

1698
01:03:53,109 –> 01:03:57,220
a member is like I said it’s like ten

1699
01:03:55,060 –> 01:04:00,730
fifteen bucks that’s super cheap and it

1700
01:03:57,220 –> 01:04:02,109
goes towards the the what we do and the

1701
01:04:00,730 –> 01:04:04,390
organization has been around a very long

1702
01:04:02,109 –> 01:04:06,099
time they fight a lot of that stuff and

1703
01:04:04,390 –> 01:04:07,359
you know advocated more common sense of

1704
01:04:06,099 –> 01:04:08,290
personal I hate the word common and

1705
01:04:07,359 –> 01:04:09,849
that’s what it’s like yesterday I was

1706
01:04:08,290 –> 01:04:12,790
thinking of how to do my elevator speech

1707
01:04:09,849 –> 01:04:14,440
right like the term common sense and the

1708
01:04:12,790 –> 01:04:16,119
world of politics has been co-opted to

1709
01:04:14,440 –> 01:04:17,680
me just means stupid stuff yes it’s like

1710
01:04:16,119 –> 01:04:19,480
common sense causes gun control or

1711
01:04:17,680 –> 01:04:21,010
common sense than that so it’s like I I

1712
01:04:19,480 –> 01:04:23,140
gotta find it I got to find another way

1713
01:04:21,010 –> 01:04:24,790
of phrasing this but they do it’s a very

1714
01:04:23,140 –> 01:04:26,829
common-sense approach to transportation

1715
01:04:24,790 –> 01:04:28,859
policy and motorists rights so

1716
01:04:26,829 –> 01:04:34,589
definitely get involved in that I think

1717
01:04:28,859 –> 01:04:38,380
you know motorist org yeah okay cool

1718
01:04:34,589 –> 01:04:40,450
so for everybody else thank you for

1719
01:04:38,380 –> 01:04:42,400
watching please like please share if you

1720
01:04:40,450 –> 01:04:46,690
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01:04:42,400 –> 01:04:48,790
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01:04:51,030 –> 01:04:57,430
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1725
01:04:54,940 –> 01:04:59,410
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1726
01:04:57,430 –> 01:05:02,319
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1738
01:05:29,500 –> 01:05:32,410
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1739
01:05:30,940 –> 01:05:35,230
if it was like muddied waters media like

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01:05:41,140 –> 01:05:47,530
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1745
01:05:47,530 –> 01:05:55,980
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1746
01:05:51,220 –> 01:06:00,100
shalom as spike says Jason Lyon with the

1747
01:05:55,980 –> 01:06:01,480
Shabbat episode of mr. America the

1748
01:06:00,100 –> 01:06:04,810
bearded truth and were taken two days

1749
01:06:01,480 –> 01:06:07,300
off and Jason Lyon returns next Monday

1750
01:06:04,810 –> 01:06:09,030
with his regular episode of mr. America

1751
01:06:07,300 –> 01:06:11,740
the very truth and Jason Lyon

1752
01:06:09,030 –> 01:06:14,100
congratulations to him because next

1753
01:06:11,740 –> 01:06:16,990
Tuesday will be his very first

1754
01:06:14,100 –> 01:06:20,200
co-hosting of muddied waters of freedom

1755
01:06:16,990 –> 01:06:22,660
I am out of town and then my fellow

1756
01:06:20,200 –> 01:06:25,690
Americans next week on Wednesday with

1757
01:06:22,660 –> 01:06:27,250
Spike Cohen and there’s no episode of

1758
01:06:25,690 –> 01:06:32,860
the writer’s block next week because I

1759
01:06:27,250 –> 01:06:34,540
will be in Cleveland never been to

1760
01:06:32,860 –> 01:06:36,610
Cleveland not looking forward to it go

1761
01:06:34,540 –> 01:06:37,750
to go to go to Cedar Point and so

1762
01:06:36,610 –> 01:06:39,430
anything I think it’s outside of

1763
01:06:37,750 –> 01:06:43,060
Cleveland yeah I think I’m not really

1764
01:06:39,430 –> 01:06:46,030
sure what that is in ten dusky Sandusky

1765
01:06:43,060 –> 01:06:48,220
yeah I’m going up there to see Red Sox

1766
01:06:46,030 –> 01:06:55,480
game with my dad and we’re gonna go hit

1767
01:06:48,220 –> 01:06:59,370
the Hall of Fame Cleveland I think they

1768
01:06:55,480 –> 01:07:03,760
have the Browns and they used to have

1769
01:06:59,370 –> 01:07:06,040
LeBron James that’s but tune into all of

1770
01:07:03,760 –> 01:07:07,960
that next week I will not be here I’ll

1771
01:07:06,040 –> 01:07:09,730
be back the week after that with Aaron

1772
01:07:07,960 –> 01:07:11,290
Nakamoto we are finally getting that

1773
01:07:09,730 –> 01:07:13,630
show going on either that way this is

1774
01:07:11,290 –> 01:07:14,950
just gonna turn into a Jimmy Kimmel Matt

1775
01:07:13,630 –> 01:07:18,430
Damon thing where I just always

1776
01:07:14,950 –> 01:07:20,980
apologized to her but thank you all so

1777
01:07:18,430 –> 01:07:21,520
much for tuning in have yourselves a

1778
01:07:20,980 –> 01:07:24,220
wonderful

1779
01:07:21,520 –> 01:07:27,630
weekend and be sure to catch Jason ship

1780
01:07:24,220 –> 01:07:27,630
Jason’s show tomorrow

1781
01:07:36,910 –> 01:07:45,879
[Music]

1782
01:07:50,530 –> 01:08:01,570
[Music]

1783
01:07:58,200 –> 01:08:04,240
I’ll try to use your body as a life raft

1784
01:08:01,570 –> 01:08:09,869
cuz if there’s room enough for one there

1785
01:08:04,240 –> 01:08:09,869
must be enough for two solutions

1786
01:08:09,920 –> 01:08:16,009
[Music]

1787
01:08:13,009 –> 01:08:16,009
senator

1788
01:08:16,910 –> 01:08:34,569
[Music]

1789
01:08:35,760 –> 01:08:40,979
hiding-places broadcast the evening news

1790
01:08:38,610 –> 01:08:45,169
I will be

1791
01:08:40,979 –> 01:08:45,169
[Music]

1792
01:08:45,770 –> 01:08:49,029
[Applause]

1793
01:08:50,319 –> 01:08:54,340
[Music]

1794
01:08:51,170 –> 01:08:54,340
[Applause]

1795
01:08:54,359 –> 01:08:57,489
[Music]

1796
01:08:58,330 –> 01:09:06,310
don’t bother swimming out to save me I

1797
01:09:00,460 –> 01:09:18,670
will only track it don’t bother sweater

1798
01:09:06,310 –> 01:09:23,910
to save me I will only drag that one

1799
01:09:18,670 –> 01:09:23,910
myself it’s a standard for the legs

1800
01:09:24,319 –> 01:09:35,810
[Music]

1801
01:09:32,810 –> 01:09:35,810
fuck


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