The Wrighter’s Block Episode 41 – Axl David Gets Wrighter’s Block

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in places broadcast to the evening news

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I will be

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don’t bother swimming and to save me I

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will only track it

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don’t bother sweater to save me I will

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only drag myself it’s a standard

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to convince all that world I don’t need

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anybody’s

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all right put down your pens put down

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your pencils step away from your

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keyboards and settle in for this week’s

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episode of the writer’s block

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first and foremost allow me to thank Don

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and Sally right for giving birth to me

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because without them none of this would

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be possible

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also let me thank the narcissist

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cookbook for allowing me to use his

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music at the beginning in the end of

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every episode and if you go over to his

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channel on YouTube you can see well you

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can hear him do a completely legal

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reading of The Chronicles of Narnia The

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Lion the Witch and the Wardrobe and it

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is fantastic and it’s completely legal

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he says I definitely recommend you check

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that out also allow me to thank Casey

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Neff for the Cabo Casey Casey Casey

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Casey super fan Casey Neff bought the

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coppice ode so Thank You Casey

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for letting me an axial drink on

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tonight’s show to all those above and to

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my guest Axl

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bula vinaka so today on my show I’ve got

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all my notes covered I have my good

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buddy Axl David he is here from the

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National motorist Association he is the

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former communications director for the

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Tennessee party of libertarian party of

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Tennessee and just an all-around great

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guy

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Axl thanks for coming in thank you I

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think the funniest part about the the

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muddied waters of freedom global studio

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here you go to the Bernie Sanders

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mailbox and turn right that’s actually

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true yeah that is the best way to figure

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out how to get to my house I’m across

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the street for the Bernie Sanders for

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the Bernie box

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yeah when um when I was doing the when I

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was doing the campaign when I was I’m

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working on the 2016 campaigns there were

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I had like a Gary Johnson son

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and a couple of the locals had a couple

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of their signs up and they were always

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going missing and I just always assumed

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that it was the Bernie broza cause we

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ballsy of them but yeah when I was where

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I was working on a campaign I was

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working on a local campaign State House

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and I was working for a guy ray

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Blackledge she ended up anything to the

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girl he lost – whose name I forget who

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lives here in town she’s like six houses

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down no but I had a ray Blackledge sign

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out because I was working for him and I

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was like yeah I’m play sign out for him

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since you’re paying me and that sign was

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constantly being it wasn’t taken it was

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never taken but it was always taken out

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and laid down on the ground and I was

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like I’m gonna put oh I know is

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exceptionally petty and I made a joke

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with my buddy with my one of my buddies

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TJ and I said can we wire electricity

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that’s what like that’s ideas of

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funniest videos on there when you saw a

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lot with the Trump Trump signs where

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people would like Electrify the signs

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and you don’t have to put it around like

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you you let fry the the H steaks yeah

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and so when they go to like they quickly

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I didn’t electrocute the hell of

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themselves yeah that’s hilarious I I you

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can’t help but but not think they

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deserve that stuff no absolutely I am

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cuz yeah when cuz when that was going on

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like I was coming home and like I was

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walking neighborhoods for him and so I

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was out in the heat all day long in the

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middle of summer

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you know and it’s Florida I’m hot I’m

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sweaty I hate everybody at this point

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because I’ve had 47,000 doors slams in

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my face have been told I’m the evil

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incarnate because I’m rooting for a

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Republican which I wasn’t really rooting

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for the Republican I was rooting against

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there was no other option in the race

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and he was giving me money to be there

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so I would come home and the sign would

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be on would just be lying in my grass

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and I just I like investors some like a

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cheat Cameron just have assumed in on

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that

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stuff like that just really might let

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across on here oh yeah no you’re like

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that bugs me it’s like yeah just be

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respectful and I think for me I’m so

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neurotic that I would put a sign in my

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front yard but I would be like

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constantly watching it and everything

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kind of car went by her someone walked

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by I’d be there checking it like like

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for my blinds like I don’t have the that

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stress that would lead me it’s like

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nothing in my front yard right I am yeah

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when I first moved here when I first

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moved here you walked you walked through

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my house but my this office was

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originally in the front room where like

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right when you walked in I did that’s

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where I setup my composure and

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everything so that way I had a window

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because that was nice and so I just sit

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there and I would like do work out there

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and I was sitting there one day and I

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was doing some freelance writing and I’m

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typing in my next-door neighbor the

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woman who still lives there

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walks her dog over into my yard and lets

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her dog go to the bathroom and then she

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walks back and he doesn’t clean doesn’t

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clean it up doesn’t do anything and I’m

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just sitting there like I can’t she just

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did she really just do this and I I was

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I was so taken back by it cuz I was like

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why would she do that so this was back

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when I still drank heavily and this will

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lead you to realizing why I don’t do

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that anymore but I was walking back from

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the bars because you know one duis

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enough I was walking into that so I was

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walking back from the bars you know it

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was only like six blocks down and I had

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to go to the bathroom and I was walking

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down the alleyways I was only one house

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away from mine and I went a little early

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and I didn’t have to pee you can fill in

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whatever blanks you want on that you’d

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probably be correct because that’s what

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I did and so she never let her dog go to

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the bathroom

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yard again I’ve scared that though I

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don’t know if she knew I did that but

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there was never a time where that ever

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came on off I mean she saw a – you could

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I mean it was 3 a.m. or something

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possible so you and I met at the kava

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bars yeah technically yeah yeah I you

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know live quite a few places but I’ve

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always known about kava because um

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because I’m a Hamid right and you know

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Mohammed I go way back

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and I just yeah I do technical technical

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technical issues sorry sorry false it

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doesn’t make good is a right Emily how

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could he was like pulled him out yeah

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cuz I pulled him out to show them nipple

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video oh and I forgot to plug him back

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in but yeah sorry about that

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I totally forgot to do what I was

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supposed to do there so yeah we uh so

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yeah Mohammed Mohammed I go way back as

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well

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as you know he’s one of the cofounders

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of this channel and yeah I remember you

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were I remember him telling us one days

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again my buddy Axl’s coming tonight yeah

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I was so happy to finally try X I heard

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so much about I read you know I’m I’m

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really neurotic when it comes like

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researching things it’s just my thing so

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I knew so much about cava but I just I

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knew it’s like a Saint Pete thing so

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living in Tennessee or Indiana or you

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know I’ve lived everywhere so I finally

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moved here is excited to try it well the

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first time I think when I mega the first

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time I did wasn’t I liked it but I

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wasn’t crazy about it that makes sense

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yeah kind of have that one go yeah I was

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on a Saturday where do you just drink

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like a shit-ton and you keep drinking it

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but you know I was like I’ll just once a

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while I did I suppose like you know one

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Saturday every couple months I’d go to

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low tech so you can’t make I was a

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drinker right you know I never drink and

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drive but you know I would just drink at

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home a lot and I got night before bed

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and so it was quite a Thanksgiving and

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it was my job I have to

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you know during hurricane season

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especially I had to be kind of mindful

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of being able to drive very quickly

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middle of the night and so you know I I

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started I was like guys maybe I’ll

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switch Chicago and I was just I was so

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sick of drinking alcohol but and I drank

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it had a lot of photos at muddy water

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I’m in st. Pete and I just you know what

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this is stupid like why would I keep

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drinking I was like drinking alcohol

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stupid

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I hated the way you felt afterwards just

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constant taking these risk you know it’s

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just stupid and so I just stopped

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drinking alcohol believe it or not and

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then I went on and that was you know

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Thanksgiving and then come February I

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was on vacation I drank a couple times

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but like I just he I didn’t get drunk

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I’m like this is just feels like shit I

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don’t like it when you drink that’s the

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thing about kavas when you drink it for

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a while and you get used to it and you

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enjoy it and you know how it affects you

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did go back to alcohol it’s like well

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this is kind of the same thing as Cabo

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you just feel shittier and you can’t

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control yourself and you can’t drive so

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right yeah so I did not have been

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drinking kava since and I think it’s

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definitely been a lifesaver for me oh

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yeah me too

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me too anyways what’s funny is so I

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started drinking kava back it’s gonna be

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five years in exactly one month I

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started drinking kava and I I was

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working on a congressional campaign for

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Lucas over B he was running as a

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libertarian and he was running against

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david jolly and we he always had his

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campaign meetings at a kebab or was it

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his it was it cuz I followed bukas when

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he started running how long ago was that

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five years ago right it was 14

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yeah so he always had this at money not

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money I’m mad hatter’s matters yeah cuz

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Akita was checking the matters I’m like

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that’s how I first learned about it yeah

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so I’ve been drinking it in spirit since

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then right so yeah we we were having

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these meetings there and I could drink

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the kratom cuz I was still drinking

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heavily no and one day he and I were

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having a Sarah and reg feels the need to

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find a San Diego kava bar it’s called

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kava collective yeah they’re great yeah

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I’m not the owner there yeah this is

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their sticker if you go there if you go

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there tell them Matt right sent you and

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you’ll get free cough on the rest of

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your life possibly I’m not gonna

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guarantee you that though say that you

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learned about it on this show and you

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might get a discount and and so we were

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we were hanging out there and he was

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talking to me and I was a little

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hungover that night and he was like what

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was the last day you weren’t hungover oh

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my god it easily when was the last time

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you went without drinking and I was like

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Matt I don’t know man yeah he was like

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was the last time you went without

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blacking out nothing listen I’m doing my

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job for your campaign and he was like

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yeah I bet you can’t go a month without

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drinking all right I’ll take that bet

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right now anything okay and he’s like if

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you if you do it if when I win which he

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didn’t okay when I win you can come up

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DCM be on my campaign stuff I was like

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great and he goes and I’ll never bring

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it up again and you can go back to

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drinking and I was like great because

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that was exactly what my plan was

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and so I started hanging out low tide

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and Mad Hatter’s and it was the worst

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month of my life

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like what switching to collar switching

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to go early like I would went through

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like serious withdrawal guy was waking

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up in the middle of night night sweats

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like it was it was awful I woke up every

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day feeling worse than when I was

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drinking and like I got wicked restless

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leg syndrome just random and after the

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first 30 days I was like kind of feeling

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better but I wasn’t feeling great and I

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was like I don’t ever want to go through

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this again so I may as well just stick

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with it and September 7th will be five

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years since that time Wow

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yeah I waited to me I I actually I was

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pretty bad like I don’t this isn’t

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really about like me personally but I I

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was a hardcore alcoholic for a long time

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I actually end up checking myself into

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rehab like inpatient rehab and I I do

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open my comedy sometimes one of the

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things I talk about but we I I went in

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Gary Indiana for a month okay so you’re

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I don’t know people Florida or

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wherever you guys are know about

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carrying you know but basically you’re

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locked away for you do it yourself you

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lock yourself into it’s a quasi hospital

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treatment facility and so I was there a

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month and then you you know doing doing

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the the sober life and you’re going to a

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a meetings and all that I think it’s

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served a purpose and it’s it helped me

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at times but your life revolves around

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sobriety your life revolves around a a

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around avoiding alcohol around the that

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stuff initially after a year of that

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it’s like this is tiring I wanted to

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drink to get away from the server

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lifestyle and so I just start drinking

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again a lot and then now you know again

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it’s been since Thanksgiving and I don’t

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I’m not like oh I’m Axl I’m sober I just

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I just don’t want to drink it right I

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know we’re like we’re talk about cough a

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lot but guess what’s for right yeah I

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mean I mean it’s a muddied water

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it is the muddy waters that’s where we

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got the name yeah I mean I don’t ever I

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don’t go around and say yeah I’m mad I’m

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sober you know like if somebody’s like

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hey let’s go out and grab some beers I

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said I can’t

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yeah and when they’re like oh why not

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only because I’m a wicked alcoholic and

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yeah they start drinking again

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you know yeah you’re going down that

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rabbit hole yeah then everybody starts

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apologizing like you didn’t no it’s fine

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look I don’t care

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trust me this isn’t trigger so here’s I

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think when you especially like Meeks

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when I went to rehab it was very odd

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very open about it with my friends so a

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few years ago right and so I would go

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and people like I’d go to my friend’s

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house and there’d be like a beer and

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then they would get so like I am so

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sorry like they’d hide it or they you

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know somewhere they put it in like a

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like like a McDonald’s Cup or something

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I’m like it’s alright like I don’t want

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to be at a bar and I don’t beer I’m much

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a drunk people but you can it’s okay to

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drink around me I’m not gonna be

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offended by it but you that’s another

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thing people don’t realize when you’re

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sober that other people get really weird

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about it that is yeah that’s one thing

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that people like I went to go visit a

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buddy of mine once and he was like dude

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do you know who John Mulaney the

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comedian is yes he’s got that bit cuz

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he’s sober he’s like when you go to a

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party people are always so weird to you

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about it I’ve got a turn up is that

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gonna be good for you that’s the exact

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yeah like I went to my buddy’s house

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he’s like he’s like oh yeah you don’t

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you got one of my kids juice box it is

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like is that too much

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like a cocktail to you I don’t want to

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try to write a trick like man I’m good

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with water just give me the water

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do you have club soda I’ll drink that

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what’s for dinner that’s right I just

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want to know what we’re eating yeah and

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now I want to leave oh yeah like I don’t

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know like I’m not the guy that’s gonna

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go around and say yeah I’m an alcoholic

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and you shouldn’t drink around me no

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I’ll go and hang out with you at a bar I

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don’t want to but we’ll I think I

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honestly believe I have a Bud Light in

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my fridge that’s been there for five

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years

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I have a bottle vodka my kitchen has

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been there for a long time it’s the one

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of my main we might talk about it

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forgetting the how it became but how

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became libertarian but Doug Stanhope

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when he he does he quit smoking for a

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while and he says the best the best way

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to do is to have it available and I

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think it’s true because it’s like if you

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had that smoking whatever your vices and

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you’re trying to quit if you have it

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available you just know like okay I go

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then get it I can go then drink it I can

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go smoke that I can go whatever having

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it available is a big turn words if it’s

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not available your mind starts planing

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it out you start thinking about okay I

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even go here I go to a store and I’m

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gonna go get it and all that so it’s

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it’s it’s you know it’s it’s true I’m

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sorry that I’ve had a Bala Blackie on my

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kitchen and I haven’t touched it ya know

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I’ve had that bit like I didn’t even

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know it was there for a long time and

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then one day I was cleaning out some

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stuff and there was a beer sitting there

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and I stared at it for a long time I

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should probably get rid of that and then

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I but I also don’t know how long it’s

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been here so I’m just gonna leave it cuz

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it’s kind of like a trophy at this point

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so let’s get into how you became a

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libertarian because we talked about a

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little bit briefly before the show and

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you said Doug Stanhope a little bit to

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do with it yeah so I was really into the

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the Chopin Teller’s bullshit yeah and

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you know again that’s not heavily in

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politics believe it or not it’s more

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just like common sense stuff like gun

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control and all that but my favorite

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Penn & Teller’s bullshit was the one

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where they did the the water sommelier

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oh yeah later when I believe it yeah

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that one was so good yeah the my

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favorite ones they didn’t recycling

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that’s fantastic but so I like that’s

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how you get into it my friend of the

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time was libertarian he’s a real

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socialist now which isn’t

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but it’s always watching that you know

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but I used to be a big socialist like

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big liberal you name it

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I’m start watching that was getting into

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it I moved to Chicago so I live in

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Chicago briefly and I used to be super

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like gun control to take them all and

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then you go there and and it wasn’t it

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was a legitimate I didn’t go there like

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open minded I went to Chicago like I

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loved there’s no guns here because at

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the time their guns were completely

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banished Chicago but I had the highest

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gun violence rate in the country and

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Sherrill does you know Michael is this

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just not making sense like this is a add

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up like how do you have how how could

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there possibly be guns yeah and you hear

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all like the arguments for it yes as I

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said it doesn’t make any sense so I

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started then I was like a really pro-gun

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socialist right and then listening Doug

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Stanhope so you know podcasts and

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routines and all that got me into it I

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went to college and and Murfreesboro

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Tennessee joined the young Americans for

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liberty and this kinda went from there

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started getting involved with students

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for liberty and and my all-time favorite

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out there and you and I talked about his

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foundation for economic education yes

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did a lot of the their conferences in

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the summer we did one in Prescott

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Arizona we did two of them Atlanta

490
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Georgia just life-changing and I it was

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funny because I went to you know I was

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involved in me Allen all that I like the

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social stuff but the economics part of

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it just bored the hell out of me I’m

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like I don’t care about numbers and

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markets and graphs and all that and they

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said well you know come out to there’s a

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conference in Arizona be fun learn

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something about so you know I’ll go to

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her and I’ll give it a try I’ll give

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this economics thing a try and then two

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three days later and this you know we’re

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at embry-riddle Aeronautical University

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that out there and in press kit and it

505
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was a blast I was just so into economics

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not let they like I’m like I love this

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and so I became really weigh more than

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the economic side of the you know the

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the spectrum so yeah I love it I be I

510
00:20:41,129 –> 00:20:44,369
think that the Chicago one’s always kind

511
00:20:42,899 –> 00:20:46,850
of was I always look at that’s a tipping

512
00:20:44,369 –> 00:20:50,249
point when I moved there that is those

513
00:20:46,850 –> 00:20:52,649
anti-gun I just that is heaven if you

514
00:20:50,249 –> 00:20:55,379
hate guns and you know you’re in the end

515
00:20:52,649 –> 00:20:57,210
of socialist and you go there just it’s

516
00:20:55,379 –> 00:20:59,279
hell and I like the city of Chicago a

517
00:20:57,210 –> 00:21:00,629
lot islands the city of Chicago is one

518
00:20:59,279 –> 00:21:02,350
of my favorite city absolutely but

519
00:21:00,629 –> 00:21:06,820
living there’s a different story

520
00:21:02,350 –> 00:21:09,070
so yeah so you and I lived in Nashville

521
00:21:06,820 –> 00:21:10,720
during the same period of time which is

522
00:21:09,070 –> 00:21:14,950
funny because I was moving to Chicago

523
00:21:10,720 –> 00:21:18,179
when I ended up in Nashville by pure

524
00:21:14,950 –> 00:21:21,759
accident I ended up in Nashville but

525
00:21:18,179 –> 00:21:24,009
like we probably cross paths Oh hundred

526
00:21:21,759 –> 00:21:25,600
percent yeah we were there is a hundred

527
00:21:24,009 –> 00:21:28,659
percent chance that we were either at

528
00:21:25,600 –> 00:21:32,080
Santa’s pub at the same time yeah Sam’s

529
00:21:28,659 –> 00:21:34,899
pub definitely or mafiosos one of those

530
00:21:32,080 –> 00:21:36,610
two places we were definitely at at the

531
00:21:34,899 –> 00:21:38,889
exact same time had to have been there’s

532
00:21:36,610 –> 00:21:42,190
no way around it just because of the

533
00:21:38,889 –> 00:21:44,649
frequency of which I was at we were both

534
00:21:42,190 –> 00:21:47,919
uh Sam’s father and I was at mafiosos it

535
00:21:44,649 –> 00:21:49,779
had it just had to happen but so you

536
00:21:47,919 –> 00:21:51,070
moved down there and then you became you

537
00:21:49,779 –> 00:21:53,320
joined the Libertarian Party when you

538
00:21:51,070 –> 00:21:57,730
got to Nashville or no so might when I

539
00:21:53,320 –> 00:21:59,379
first mers Bert yes so I first moved in

540
00:21:57,730 –> 00:22:01,389
Nashville my job force him to move there

541
00:21:59,379 –> 00:22:03,549
I was working for a department store in

542
00:22:01,389 –> 00:22:06,970
loss prevention so I was at the store

543
00:22:03,549 –> 00:22:10,080
detective and I moved down there against

544
00:22:06,970 –> 00:22:12,669
my will end up moving around and then

545
00:22:10,080 –> 00:22:14,649
god I’ve lived a bunch of seas and then

546
00:22:12,669 –> 00:22:16,570
I went back to Murfreesboro to go to

547
00:22:14,649 –> 00:22:17,889
Middle Tennessee State and that’s when I

548
00:22:16,570 –> 00:22:19,000
start getting in politics of stuff then

549
00:22:17,889 –> 00:22:20,740
I was going national ID then I was

550
00:22:19,000 –> 00:22:22,539
really involved that’s my that’s why we

551
00:22:20,740 –> 00:22:24,789
ran into you at like you know mafiosos

552
00:22:22,539 –> 00:22:27,250
or any of the libertarian Liberty on the

553
00:22:24,789 –> 00:22:33,190
rocks it seems probable the Lord of the

554
00:22:27,250 –> 00:22:36,399
Rings Club yeah so and then you became

555
00:22:33,190 –> 00:22:39,039
the comms director and was there you

556
00:22:36,399 –> 00:22:44,049
said that you did some did you was it

557
00:22:39,039 –> 00:22:45,759
Yahoo or CFL campus no Tennessee yes yes

558
00:22:44,049 –> 00:22:47,230
so I I was the president of the young

559
00:22:45,759 –> 00:22:49,029
Barry’s for Liberty group out there well

560
00:22:47,230 –> 00:22:50,950
and it was it existed obviously before

561
00:22:49,029 –> 00:22:52,269
us how that’s what really pulled me in

562
00:22:50,950 –> 00:22:53,110
like I knew I had all these ideas that’s

563
00:22:52,269 –> 00:22:55,450
what really pulled me into going

564
00:22:53,110 –> 00:22:57,759
politics was young Americans for Liberty

565
00:22:55,450 –> 00:23:00,250
made a great chapter they’re the are our

566
00:22:57,759 –> 00:23:02,169
faculty advisor was up former president

567
00:23:00,250 –> 00:23:05,289
of the Federal Reserve Oh his name’s dr.

568
00:23:02,169 –> 00:23:07,570
William Ford great guy he’s super free

569
00:23:05,289 –> 00:23:09,340
market guy a president of the Federal

570
00:23:07,570 –> 00:23:11,830
Reserve in Atlanta and is this major

571
00:23:09,340 –> 00:23:14,260
free market guy he’s incredible so we

572
00:23:11,830 –> 00:23:15,370
had a good story we had great we had

573
00:23:14,260 –> 00:23:18,370
definitely one of the highest

574
00:23:15,370 –> 00:23:21,490
attendance highest which was membership

575
00:23:18,370 –> 00:23:23,800
in and all of y’all from there I went to

576
00:23:21,490 –> 00:23:25,390
an internship at Leadership Institute in

577
00:23:23,800 –> 00:23:30,220
Arlington Virginia and just outside of

578
00:23:25,390 –> 00:23:32,830
DC I know well yeah that place really

579
00:23:30,220 –> 00:23:34,780
yeah its I had a good good time I was in

580
00:23:32,830 –> 00:23:36,130
the studio there so I did all the visual

581
00:23:34,780 –> 00:23:37,570
stuff I didn’t do anything political it

582
00:23:36,130 –> 00:23:39,250
was all just like photography

583
00:23:37,570 –> 00:23:42,940
videography you live broadcast things

584
00:23:39,250 –> 00:23:44,980
like that and then I got kind that’s why

585
00:23:42,940 –> 00:23:46,510
I got started getting disillusioned with

586
00:23:44,980 –> 00:23:49,930
politics I’m like yeah that’s when guys

587
00:23:46,510 –> 00:23:51,630
start taking a step back and and I’m

588
00:23:49,930 –> 00:23:54,220
kinda getting back into it though right

589
00:23:51,630 –> 00:23:56,350
so you’ve been working how long have you

590
00:23:54,220 –> 00:23:58,690
been working with the National motorists

591
00:23:56,350 –> 00:24:03,400
so I’ve been associate with them as an

592
00:23:58,690 –> 00:24:04,990
activist since 2013 okay and what is

593
00:24:03,400 –> 00:24:07,570
their main what is their main thing

594
00:24:04,990 –> 00:24:09,550
their main goal where were they aiming

595
00:24:07,570 –> 00:24:13,570
for yeah so it’s basically just in its

596
00:24:09,550 –> 00:24:15,850
freedom for motorists it’s it’s scaling

597
00:24:13,570 –> 00:24:19,780
back against you know these these laws

598
00:24:15,850 –> 00:24:22,450
and these regulations and and and the

599
00:24:19,780 –> 00:24:24,670
kind of bureaucracy around traveling and

600
00:24:22,450 –> 00:24:26,640
driving okay it’s crazy that sounds

601
00:24:24,670 –> 00:24:28,960
there’s a lot of things I mean it’s it’s

602
00:24:26,640 –> 00:24:33,670
this this organization is found in the

603
00:24:28,960 –> 00:24:34,990
80s they take very specific policy to

604
00:24:33,670 –> 00:24:39,420
different positions like red-light

605
00:24:34,990 –> 00:24:41,470
cameras roadblocks speed limits

606
00:24:39,420 –> 00:24:42,520
automated traffic enforcement like for

607
00:24:41,470 –> 00:24:43,660
speed and they’re not like cameras we’ve

608
00:24:42,520 –> 00:24:45,610
already mentioned with it

609
00:24:43,660 –> 00:24:48,690
seatbelts fall under their seatbelts

610
00:24:45,610 –> 00:24:51,490
fall under that it’s basically excuse me

611
00:24:48,690 –> 00:24:53,050
same with that you know with speed with

612
00:24:51,490 –> 00:24:54,970
seatbelt or other so it’s encouraged

613
00:24:53,050 –> 00:24:58,270
these seatbelts and the organization

614
00:24:54,970 –> 00:25:01,510
encourages that but the the issue around

615
00:24:58,270 –> 00:25:04,180
seatbelt enforcement where you know now

616
00:25:01,510 –> 00:25:06,220
it’s a pre-crime and you know it’s it’s

617
00:25:04,180 –> 00:25:07,270
it’s a pre-crime to not wear your

618
00:25:06,220 –> 00:25:09,430
seatbelts they can pull you over for

619
00:25:07,270 –> 00:25:10,870
that right and give you money and take

620
00:25:09,430 –> 00:25:13,180
money from you for doing that right um

621
00:25:10,870 –> 00:25:15,340
be better if they gave me money for yeah

622
00:25:13,180 –> 00:25:17,230
I know I always tell people like you

623
00:25:15,340 –> 00:25:19,180
know that when you have like red light

624
00:25:17,230 –> 00:25:20,320
cameras as I we should just get rid of

625
00:25:19,180 –> 00:25:22,720
the red light cameras and have green

626
00:25:20,320 –> 00:25:24,340
light cameras so if you know if if you

627
00:25:22,720 –> 00:25:25,900
like stopped at a red light they can

628
00:25:24,340 –> 00:25:27,400
then give you money if you actually stop

629
00:25:25,900 –> 00:25:29,010
right I have a thought that idea through

630
00:25:27,400 –> 00:25:33,179
all the way

631
00:25:29,010 –> 00:25:35,010
so I know that red light cameras in road

632
00:25:33,179 –> 00:25:38,179
I know that red-light cameras and road

633
00:25:35,010 –> 00:25:40,770
blocks have been massively contested

634
00:25:38,179 –> 00:25:44,760
massively contested across across the

635
00:25:40,770 –> 00:25:46,590
country now here in Florida when I first

636
00:25:44,760 –> 00:25:48,420
moved here I thought that red light

637
00:25:46,590 –> 00:25:50,040
cameras were but they got rid of them

638
00:25:48,420 –> 00:25:53,160
but apparently I found out recently that

639
00:25:50,040 –> 00:25:55,770
they it’s been so it goes back and forth

640
00:25:53,160 –> 00:25:56,700
at least in the state of Florida there’s

641
00:25:55,770 –> 00:25:58,500
always these kind of different

642
00:25:56,700 –> 00:26:00,300
challenges in a court and I think the

643
00:25:58,500 –> 00:26:03,960
most recent one I believe was in

644
00:26:00,300 –> 00:26:06,570
Homestead Florida where they the the way

645
00:26:03,960 –> 00:26:08,640
it was set up was that the the

646
00:26:06,570 –> 00:26:11,040
contractor that ran the red light camera

647
00:26:08,640 –> 00:26:13,530
contract so in other words let’s go back

648
00:26:11,040 –> 00:26:16,260
up a little bit so you quote-unquote run

649
00:26:13,530 –> 00:26:18,330
a red light that image the video of you

650
00:26:16,260 –> 00:26:19,980
running the red light allegedly the the

651
00:26:18,330 –> 00:26:22,020
picture of your license plate is sent to

652
00:26:19,980 –> 00:26:24,500
another company most of the time it’s

653
00:26:22,020 –> 00:26:26,820
red flexor automated traffic solutions

654
00:26:24,500 –> 00:26:27,929
Basin Arizona both of them are um

655
00:26:26,820 –> 00:26:31,380
they’re actually headquartered in

656
00:26:27,929 –> 00:26:33,960
Australia a private contractor will

657
00:26:31,380 –> 00:26:36,390
review that say yes this person ran a

658
00:26:33,960 –> 00:26:37,710
red light they then use they look

659
00:26:36,390 –> 00:26:39,570
through the DMV records get your

660
00:26:37,710 –> 00:26:41,250
information and they send it to the

661
00:26:39,570 –> 00:26:43,470
police officer back in Florida

662
00:26:41,250 –> 00:26:45,660
the police officer just says okay okay

663
00:26:43,470 –> 00:26:47,100
okay okay since it’s a citation out

664
00:26:45,660 –> 00:26:50,340
according to code citation out to you

665
00:26:47,100 –> 00:26:51,570
and you pay it or you don’t pay it but

666
00:26:50,340 –> 00:26:54,540
he said they’re contested everywhere

667
00:26:51,570 –> 00:26:57,179
anytime anywhere in the country were red

668
00:26:54,540 –> 00:26:59,700
light cameras have been on the ballot

669
00:26:57,179 –> 00:27:03,030
have been soundly defeated it has never

670
00:26:59,700 –> 00:27:05,040
ever been approved by voters they people

671
00:27:03,030 –> 00:27:06,720
hate them for a number of reasons but I

672
00:27:05,040 –> 00:27:08,550
think people even if you don’t know a

673
00:27:06,720 –> 00:27:10,200
lot about them you kind know they’re

674
00:27:08,550 –> 00:27:13,290
they’re BS and that they don’t do

675
00:27:10,200 –> 00:27:17,460
anything and the the central to that is

676
00:27:13,290 –> 00:27:19,260
a vast majority nearly every ticket from

677
00:27:17,460 –> 00:27:21,690
a red-light camera or split second

678
00:27:19,260 –> 00:27:23,670
violations these are when you have

679
00:27:21,690 –> 00:27:25,320
what’s called an all phase res so every

680
00:27:23,670 –> 00:27:27,540
direction is a red light or they overlap

681
00:27:25,320 –> 00:27:29,250
slightly that’s when most of those gets

682
00:27:27,540 –> 00:27:31,470
and these are just barely ran the red

683
00:27:29,250 –> 00:27:33,030
light or you made the decision based on

684
00:27:31,470 –> 00:27:34,650
traffic around you talk behind you other

685
00:27:33,030 –> 00:27:36,059
conditions whatever you made the

686
00:27:34,650 –> 00:27:38,010
decision okay well I can kind of make

687
00:27:36,059 –> 00:27:41,100
this yellow light I got gun it and it’s

688
00:27:38,010 –> 00:27:41,820
like that what secondly and that’s what

689
00:27:41,100 –> 00:27:43,800
triggers that that’s what

690
00:27:41,820 –> 00:27:45,750
make the most money if you added to

691
00:27:43,800 –> 00:27:48,510
those cameras if you added a one two

692
00:27:45,750 –> 00:27:50,490
three second delay where the light can

693
00:27:48,510 –> 00:27:52,200
be read from one to three seconds and no

694
00:27:50,490 –> 00:27:53,880
citations are issued and you get it to

695
00:27:52,200 –> 00:27:54,660
after that they’re all get shut down

696
00:27:53,880 –> 00:27:56,010
overnight

697
00:27:54,660 –> 00:27:56,940
every single one gets shut down let’s

698
00:27:56,010 –> 00:27:59,010
where they make their money they don’t

699
00:27:56,940 –> 00:28:00,540
make money from these random you know

700
00:27:59,010 –> 00:28:01,920
several seconds start the light turn red

701
00:28:00,540 –> 00:28:03,720
and those people that are doing that

702
00:28:01,920 –> 00:28:05,610
aren’t doing it because they are scared

703
00:28:03,720 –> 00:28:06,750
of a fifty dollar ticket they’re drunk

704
00:28:05,610 –> 00:28:07,980
they have someone else go and also while

705
00:28:06,750 –> 00:28:11,340
they’re doing it they’re not heard by

706
00:28:07,980 –> 00:28:13,440
that way right now that makes sense I am

707
00:28:11,340 –> 00:28:16,740
definitely the I can make this yellow

708
00:28:13,440 –> 00:28:19,890
driver yeah which I don’t all right but

709
00:28:16,740 –> 00:28:22,290
the only time that I blew through a red

710
00:28:19,890 –> 00:28:25,830
light it wasn’t because I was mentally

711
00:28:22,290 –> 00:28:28,350
there right yeah it was for multitude of

712
00:28:25,830 –> 00:28:29,820
other reasons probably alcohol well and

713
00:28:28,350 –> 00:28:33,060
that’s the thing too is is we always

714
00:28:29,820 –> 00:28:34,650
mentioned that when on you know now we

715
00:28:33,060 –> 00:28:36,450
had those cameras now people have

716
00:28:34,650 –> 00:28:38,730
cameras there and a police officers on

717
00:28:36,450 –> 00:28:41,100
the corner and he sees you you’re drunk

718
00:28:38,730 –> 00:28:43,410
as hell you blow through a red light

719
00:28:41,100 –> 00:28:44,430
he sees that flash from the camera as

720
00:28:43,410 –> 00:28:46,320
far as the police officer knows okay

721
00:28:44,430 –> 00:28:47,610
well he got his ticket he’s good he does

722
00:28:46,320 –> 00:28:49,470
have any reason to stop you that’s fair

723
00:28:47,610 –> 00:28:52,290
and so now you have people that that

724
00:28:49,470 –> 00:28:53,970
should be stopped are now getting away

725
00:28:52,290 –> 00:28:55,650
and driving down the road the cop thinks

726
00:28:53,970 –> 00:28:57,030
it’s so good you gotta take it who cares

727
00:28:55,650 –> 00:28:58,560
they can’t stop you they have no

728
00:28:57,030 –> 00:29:00,030
discretion they can’t exercise they

729
00:28:58,560 –> 00:29:02,730
can’t look at they must say well maybe

730
00:29:00,030 –> 00:29:04,350
he just he gave me a good story maybe he

731
00:29:02,730 –> 00:29:05,430
ran the red light he’s sober he just

732
00:29:04,350 –> 00:29:06,870
there’s a big truck behind him he’s

733
00:29:05,430 –> 00:29:08,610
afraid to say him on his brakes no

734
00:29:06,870 –> 00:29:09,780
ticket you don’t have that discretion

735
00:29:08,610 –> 00:29:11,850
you can’t look into things further than

736
00:29:09,780 –> 00:29:13,710
that and that’s a another component to

737
00:29:11,850 –> 00:29:17,930
our opposition to red light cameras

738
00:29:13,710 –> 00:29:21,900
gotcha so when he shifting a little bit

739
00:29:17,930 –> 00:29:24,900
shifting so chip ting a little bit when

740
00:29:21,900 –> 00:29:26,640
it comes to the roadblocks which where I

741
00:29:24,900 –> 00:29:30,390
grew up I grew up in Northern Virginia I

742
00:29:26,640 –> 00:29:34,050
grew up in a small town Manassas there

743
00:29:30,390 –> 00:29:35,460
just outside of Fairfax and I would go

744
00:29:34,050 –> 00:29:36,540
into Fairfax ago I think we followed

745
00:29:35,460 –> 00:29:38,280
each other because like I lived in

746
00:29:36,540 –> 00:29:41,580
Arlington and then we lived in Nashville

747
00:29:38,280 –> 00:29:43,470
now Rouen yeah

748
00:29:41,580 –> 00:29:45,090
yeah I think we’re just following each

749
00:29:43,470 –> 00:29:46,409
other right we’re just kind of slow like

750
00:29:45,090 –> 00:29:47,940
it was just destined for us to

751
00:29:46,409 –> 00:29:53,759
eventually meet each other and it just

752
00:29:47,940 –> 00:29:56,700
finally happened so we we would get

753
00:29:53,759 –> 00:30:00,119
roadblocks all the time

754
00:29:56,700 –> 00:30:02,220
all the time we got them so often when I

755
00:30:00,119 –> 00:30:05,100
use them as an excuse for coming home

756
00:30:02,220 –> 00:30:07,200
late my mom would always believe yeah a

757
00:30:05,100 –> 00:30:10,950
hundred percent of the time I was like

758
00:30:07,200 –> 00:30:12,749
oh I was coming back and got stuck yeah

759
00:30:10,950 –> 00:30:17,309
they do money like every night now and

760
00:30:12,749 –> 00:30:21,869
I’m like I know right dad you bought

761
00:30:17,309 –> 00:30:23,700
that like even back then

762
00:30:21,869 –> 00:30:25,440
I’m with like back then I wasn’t really

763
00:30:23,700 –> 00:30:26,940
doing anything wrong I was just driving

764
00:30:25,440 –> 00:30:29,159
back from a friend’s house or driving

765
00:30:26,940 –> 00:30:30,509
back from the movies or something and I

766
00:30:29,159 –> 00:30:35,340
was completely sober I was a good

767
00:30:30,509 –> 00:30:37,320
Christian boy back then and a I would

768
00:30:35,340 –> 00:30:38,789
get pulled you know I would get stuck at

769
00:30:37,320 –> 00:30:40,919
one of these things and they hold me

770
00:30:38,789 –> 00:30:44,070
over and that’s when I got most of my

771
00:30:40,919 –> 00:30:46,289
seat belt tickets and that’s that’s

772
00:30:44,070 –> 00:30:47,970
important thing it’s an oak see I got a

773
00:30:46,289 –> 00:30:49,889
deterrent detour you’re a little bit

774
00:30:47,970 –> 00:30:51,690
that that’s what they’re for

775
00:30:49,889 –> 00:30:52,980
let’s just get any pretense that they’re

776
00:30:51,690 –> 00:30:55,230
forgetting some drunk drivers off the

777
00:30:52,980 –> 00:30:57,210
road that’s not what they’re for they’re

778
00:30:55,230 –> 00:30:59,279
forgiving use equipment violation

779
00:30:57,210 –> 00:31:00,450
seatbelt violations oh I smell weed let

780
00:30:59,279 –> 00:31:02,609
me look in this car a little bit more

781
00:31:00,450 –> 00:31:05,129
okay you’re good there for checking your

782
00:31:02,609 –> 00:31:06,720
ID it’s a fishing expedition that’s what

783
00:31:05,129 –> 00:31:08,249
they are and they can call it what they

784
00:31:06,720 –> 00:31:09,480
want they can put faces of people that

785
00:31:08,249 –> 00:31:10,739
got killed and drunk driving accidents

786
00:31:09,480 –> 00:31:13,019
on the side of the highway all they want

787
00:31:10,739 –> 00:31:14,639
and Tennessee they saw her name and kid

788
00:31:13,019 –> 00:31:16,259
you they start naming sobriety

789
00:31:14,639 –> 00:31:17,820
checkpoints after people killed by drunk

790
00:31:16,259 –> 00:31:19,200
driving accidents they really sort of

791
00:31:17,820 –> 00:31:20,999
naming them that yeah so that’s what

792
00:31:19,200 –> 00:31:22,259
they started doing there and like I said

793
00:31:20,999 –> 00:31:24,629
just get rid of any pretense that’s up

794
00:31:22,259 –> 00:31:27,419
there for and here’s what I can tell you

795
00:31:24,629 –> 00:31:31,049
that the FBI did a study in Tennessee of

796
00:31:27,419 –> 00:31:32,489
all places that basically said let’s

797
00:31:31,049 –> 00:31:35,399
have the a certain amount of police

798
00:31:32,489 –> 00:31:37,470
officers dedicated to a stationary

799
00:31:35,399 –> 00:31:39,570
roadblock that’s pulling every driver

800
00:31:37,470 –> 00:31:42,299
over asking the questions and scene if

801
00:31:39,570 –> 00:31:44,159
they’re drunken and moving them on let’s

802
00:31:42,299 –> 00:31:46,350
have that same amount of resources doing

803
00:31:44,159 –> 00:31:47,460
more like aggressive patrols what are

804
00:31:46,350 –> 00:31:48,960
some we actually see you’re in Pinellas

805
00:31:47,460 –> 00:31:51,539
County a lot called wolf packs okay

806
00:31:48,960 –> 00:31:54,119
which is more effective in getting drunk

807
00:31:51,539 –> 00:31:55,110
drivers off the road the ones that are

808
00:31:54,119 –> 00:31:56,910
out patrolling

809
00:31:55,110 –> 00:31:58,380
you notice they have probable cause to

810
00:31:56,910 –> 00:32:00,179
pull you over they’re not just out

811
00:31:58,380 –> 00:32:03,179
randomly pulling you over they have to

812
00:32:00,179 –> 00:32:04,799
be out there looking hardcore for people

813
00:32:03,179 –> 00:32:06,450
you know we even ended our traffic

814
00:32:04,799 –> 00:32:06,900
crossing the fog line and things like

815
00:32:06,450 –> 00:32:09,630
that

816
00:32:06,900 –> 00:32:11,670
the the money and the resources on those

817
00:32:09,630 –> 00:32:14,250
doing those patrols how to thaw our

818
00:32:11,670 –> 00:32:15,510
greater impact on drunk driver yet way

819
00:32:14,250 –> 00:32:17,520
more drunk drivers whereas at a

820
00:32:15,510 –> 00:32:18,660
checkpoint you get very few in fact

821
00:32:17,520 –> 00:32:20,100
that’s pretty common out to get one

822
00:32:18,660 –> 00:32:21,990
drunk driver all throughout a checkpoint

823
00:32:20,100 –> 00:32:24,120
you might get one or two but most of it

824
00:32:21,990 –> 00:32:26,250
is just oh I forgot my insurance card my

825
00:32:24,120 –> 00:32:28,110
insurance card isn’t in my – my my glove

826
00:32:26,250 –> 00:32:29,280
box right so you get a ticket for that I

827
00:32:28,110 –> 00:32:30,990
need to go to court and answer to that

828
00:32:29,280 –> 00:32:32,190
you know that’s what they’re for and

829
00:32:30,990 –> 00:32:33,480
that’s that’s what they do it and there

830
00:32:32,190 –> 00:32:35,190
and there’s a you know be honest with

831
00:32:33,480 –> 00:32:36,960
you there’s a certain theatric element

832
00:32:35,190 –> 00:32:38,940
to you and you have you know ten cops

833
00:32:36,960 –> 00:32:42,120
floor lights on all these traffic cones

834
00:32:38,940 –> 00:32:44,580
and and and things like that but yeah

835
00:32:42,120 –> 00:32:47,190
it’s it’s pretty sickening and and I’m

836
00:32:44,580 –> 00:32:49,470
pretty happy the house you know how it’s

837
00:32:47,190 –> 00:32:50,820
done here because again I I’m not super

838
00:32:49,470 –> 00:32:52,290
thrilled about you know having extra

839
00:32:50,820 –> 00:32:55,470
cops out just looking for you know out

840
00:32:52,290 –> 00:32:57,450
fishing but they at least respect that

841
00:32:55,470 –> 00:32:59,340
your constitutional rights right they’re

842
00:32:57,450 –> 00:33:01,410
not just stopping everybody to

843
00:32:59,340 –> 00:33:03,510
permanently right indiscriminately just

844
00:33:01,410 –> 00:33:04,890
to try to find a way into the car and

845
00:33:03,510 –> 00:33:07,260
that’s that was the issue I had like

846
00:33:04,890 –> 00:33:11,340
when I was you know 17 or whatever I was

847
00:33:07,260 –> 00:33:14,400
like why is this I was mainly upset that

848
00:33:11,340 –> 00:33:16,470
I was gonna miss curfew I was like why

849
00:33:14,400 –> 00:33:19,380
is it the I’m getting a hit here like

850
00:33:16,470 –> 00:33:22,860
yeah I got five minutes to get home man

851
00:33:19,380 –> 00:33:24,330
yeah well you know minutes from here you

852
00:33:22,860 –> 00:33:26,850
know there was a big thing during black

853
00:33:24,330 –> 00:33:28,320
lives matter where they were like oh my

854
00:33:26,850 –> 00:33:30,030
god I can’t we get protesters are out

855
00:33:28,320 –> 00:33:31,620
blocking highways you know they’re gone

856
00:33:30,030 –> 00:33:33,929
protests in the street for ten minutes

857
00:33:31,620 –> 00:33:35,640
and like well you’re they’re protesting

858
00:33:33,929 –> 00:33:38,580
us a cos but then the cops do the same

859
00:33:35,640 –> 00:33:39,809
exact thing Zack secularly there’s no

860
00:33:38,580 –> 00:33:41,730
difference so I think black lives matter

861
00:33:39,809 –> 00:33:43,290
whole to sign up whereas the police have

862
00:33:41,730 –> 00:33:44,580
guns on them and dogs and they’re trying

863
00:33:43,290 –> 00:33:47,370
to get in trouble right victimless

864
00:33:44,580 –> 00:33:48,990
crimes black lives matter when they do

865
00:33:47,370 –> 00:33:50,549
it they’re gotta make you late for work

866
00:33:48,990 –> 00:33:57,740
when the police do it and you’re late

867
00:33:50,549 –> 00:34:00,270
for work and you might get shot so I

868
00:33:57,740 –> 00:34:02,460
know that roadblocks have been

869
00:34:00,270 –> 00:34:04,710
challenged by the Supreme Court

870
00:34:02,460 –> 00:34:06,200
time and time again and Supreme Court

871
00:34:04,710 –> 00:34:09,500
always says that yes there

872
00:34:06,200 –> 00:34:11,270
– the in certain cases in certain case

873
00:34:09,500 –> 00:34:13,640
so there are several states whose state

874
00:34:11,270 –> 00:34:15,320
Supreme Court don’t allow it Texas I

875
00:34:13,640 –> 00:34:18,050
think is the major one in other words

876
00:34:15,320 –> 00:34:20,120
their Supreme Court says no roadblocks

877
00:34:18,050 –> 00:34:21,440
are not okay in the state because it

878
00:34:20,120 –> 00:34:22,940
goes against the constitutional right

879
00:34:21,440 –> 00:34:25,130
against you know unnecessary force or

880
00:34:22,940 –> 00:34:27,380
other stuff you’re stopping people in

881
00:34:25,130 –> 00:34:29,750
initiating you know law enforcement

882
00:34:27,380 –> 00:34:31,190
actually no probable cause and so the

883
00:34:29,750 –> 00:34:32,810
they don’t know them out that’s why in

884
00:34:31,190 –> 00:34:34,190
Texas that is strictly forbidden and

885
00:34:32,810 –> 00:34:36,350
several other states I remember all of

886
00:34:34,190 –> 00:34:39,020
them based on their interpretation of

887
00:34:36,350 –> 00:34:40,010
the US Constitution and so yeah it

888
00:34:39,020 –> 00:34:42,950
depends there’s there’s been different

889
00:34:40,010 –> 00:34:44,240
court cases in Michigan I think it’s

890
00:34:42,950 –> 00:34:47,150
kind of like the main one that they cite

891
00:34:44,240 –> 00:34:48,890
were the I don’t know the name of I I do

892
00:34:47,150 –> 00:34:50,720
know for a fact the the one that’s often

893
00:34:48,890 –> 00:34:53,870
cited doesn’t make them legal across the

894
00:34:50,720 –> 00:34:56,360
country as as long as it was with the

895
00:34:53,870 –> 00:34:59,090
deterrent and there was if the if the

896
00:34:56,360 –> 00:35:03,490
main objective of a DUI checkpoint is

897
00:34:59,090 –> 00:35:06,200
deterrence they’re legal and so

898
00:35:03,490 –> 00:35:07,940
initially that was like they highly

899
00:35:06,200 –> 00:35:09,860
publicized them they’d be all over the

900
00:35:07,940 –> 00:35:11,240
news all over the radio newspaper they

901
00:35:09,860 –> 00:35:12,620
do also stop and say hey we this big

902
00:35:11,240 –> 00:35:15,380
checkpoint everyone should know about if

903
00:35:12,620 –> 00:35:18,440
me a big checkpoint on you know us forty

904
00:35:15,380 –> 00:35:19,640
somewhere and now it’s kind of scaled up

905
00:35:18,440 –> 00:35:21,380
back back and back about because they

906
00:35:19,640 –> 00:35:23,120
don’t want people know about it right so

907
00:35:21,380 –> 00:35:24,920
start a scaled-back now the on a

908
00:35:23,120 –> 00:35:26,540
technicality they’ll put it on Facebook

909
00:35:24,920 –> 00:35:27,950
like oh by the way the Marion County

910
00:35:26,540 –> 00:35:29,690
Sheriff’s Office will be doing a check

911
00:35:27,950 –> 00:35:31,370
one of the one that yeah ii am post

912
00:35:29,690 –> 00:35:32,510
because they fulfilled their obligations

913
00:35:31,370 –> 00:35:34,400
to make it a deterrent and notify the

914
00:35:32,510 –> 00:35:35,720
public but they’re hoping people know

915
00:35:34,400 –> 00:35:37,220
about it and so there’s that surprise

916
00:35:35,720 –> 00:35:40,370
shock and all and you can you drive it

917
00:35:37,220 –> 00:35:42,470
on the right one thing that tennessee

918
00:35:40,370 –> 00:35:43,850
started doing this way off subject but

919
00:35:42,470 –> 00:35:46,010
one thing tennessee started doing hana

920
00:35:43,850 –> 00:35:48,380
how long they’ve been doing it is they

921
00:35:46,010 –> 00:35:50,600
were posting the number of drunk driving

922
00:35:48,380 –> 00:35:52,520
deaths every year yeah like on the

923
00:35:50,600 –> 00:35:54,410
highways on that you had those dynamic

924
00:35:52,520 –> 00:35:56,930
message boards i remember when it was

925
00:35:54,410 –> 00:35:59,510
like at this really mean when i get six

926
00:35:56,930 –> 00:36:01,880
65 it’s like oh man this next one and

927
00:35:59,510 –> 00:36:04,190
then it would go to 666 how’s the

928
00:36:01,880 –> 00:36:06,620
highway fatalities it’s like oh geez so

929
00:36:04,190 –> 00:36:09,070
it’s like i hope it doesn’t rise from

930
00:36:06,620 –> 00:36:12,590
here but 666 not a good number right

931
00:36:09,070 –> 00:36:14,720
well yeah it’s a scary it’s it’s a way

932
00:36:12,590 –> 00:36:16,550
to scare people thanks I mean it is but

933
00:36:14,720 –> 00:36:20,060
at the same time like it’s all so awful

934
00:36:16,550 –> 00:36:24,740
because like I don’t blame video games

935
00:36:20,060 –> 00:36:28,550
anything wrong but at the same time when

936
00:36:24,740 –> 00:36:33,590
it gets into November and it’s like 2009

937
00:36:28,550 –> 00:36:38,540
18 highway fatalities you know 1078 and

938
00:36:33,590 –> 00:36:42,080
you’re at 997 you’re going we may make

939
00:36:38,540 –> 00:36:43,670
it there is like we could there’s evil

940
00:36:42,080 –> 00:36:45,800
evil evil voice in the back you’re a

941
00:36:43,670 –> 00:36:49,760
head that says stuff like that right and

942
00:36:45,800 –> 00:36:53,270
I the last year I was living there the

943
00:36:49,760 –> 00:36:55,640
last full year that I lived there 2012 I

944
00:36:53,270 –> 00:36:56,900
mean we beat it right at the end and I

945
00:36:55,640 –> 00:36:58,580
remember having a moment where I was

946
00:36:56,900 –> 00:37:01,550
like we did it it was like oh man what

947
00:36:58,580 –> 00:37:03,260
is wrong you’re a terrible person

948
00:37:01,550 –> 00:37:05,270
well yeah no we are everybody knows that

949
00:37:03,260 –> 00:37:08,120
already but but you ought to be clear

950
00:37:05,270 –> 00:37:11,230
though that that I neither me nor the

951
00:37:08,120 –> 00:37:13,910
organization I’m representing in any way

952
00:37:11,230 –> 00:37:15,950
endorses drunk driving or running red

953
00:37:13,910 –> 00:37:17,420
lights or you know do anything stupid

954
00:37:15,950 –> 00:37:19,280
what you think it should be there’s

955
00:37:17,420 –> 00:37:21,080
there some nuance there we think the you

956
00:37:19,280 –> 00:37:24,110
know you know how long ago was the the

957
00:37:21,080 –> 00:37:26,030
the blood alcohol content well I mean it

958
00:37:24,110 –> 00:37:27,650
was point one or you know sorry yeah

959
00:37:26,030 –> 00:37:31,610
it’s point one for a while it was point

960
00:37:27,650 –> 00:37:35,600
one it’s oh wait I know that and I’m

961
00:37:31,610 –> 00:37:37,670
basing this strictly on madmen but back

962
00:37:35,600 –> 00:37:40,400
in the 60s it was like point to yeah

963
00:37:37,670 –> 00:37:42,470
which that would be great

964
00:37:40,400 –> 00:37:46,040
well it would have been when I got my

965
00:37:42,470 –> 00:37:47,900
DUI but if it was point two so and then

966
00:37:46,040 –> 00:37:50,570
it went down to point one and then they

967
00:37:47,900 –> 00:37:51,710
lowered it to 0.08 and I read a couple

968
00:37:50,570 –> 00:37:53,300
of years ago they were thinking about

969
00:37:51,710 –> 00:37:54,920
lowering it to 0.05 it’s going on a

970
00:37:53,300 –> 00:37:56,150
point of five that’s that’s happening I

971
00:37:54,920 –> 00:37:57,740
mean that’s that’s just like we all be

972
00:37:56,150 –> 00:37:59,090
except that’s gonna go down to 0.05 and

973
00:37:57,740 –> 00:38:00,650
now it’s like now it’s like you know a

974
00:37:59,090 –> 00:38:03,050
lot of states aren’t about Florida but

975
00:38:00,650 –> 00:38:04,760
if you’re under 21 years old if you have

976
00:38:03,050 –> 00:38:08,330
even like a trace amount of alcalá your

977
00:38:04,760 –> 00:38:11,210
system your DUI that’s DC a city of DC

978
00:38:08,330 –> 00:38:12,500
that’s anybody yokka anybody yeah

979
00:38:11,210 –> 00:38:14,990
doesn’t matter how old you are if you

980
00:38:12,500 –> 00:38:17,630
blow anything by a friend of Mines dad

981
00:38:14,990 –> 00:38:19,310
had a glass of wine with dinner and was

982
00:38:17,630 –> 00:38:22,910
driving back home he got pulled over

983
00:38:19,310 –> 00:38:24,230
blew 0.02 got a deal yeah and that’s the

984
00:38:22,910 –> 00:38:25,520
way it’s going for every state that’s

985
00:38:24,230 –> 00:38:27,950
you know of course we have the federal

986
00:38:25,520 –> 00:38:29,510
government can withhold funds for road

987
00:38:27,950 –> 00:38:30,860
projects and all that and that’s the way

988
00:38:29,510 –> 00:38:32,510
that’s how it got down to 0.08 and

989
00:38:30,860 –> 00:38:33,410
that’s like it’s gonna go down point of

990
00:38:32,510 –> 00:38:36,200
flies and keep going down

991
00:38:33,410 –> 00:38:37,550
down and it’s your you know you want to

992
00:38:36,200 –> 00:38:39,560
encourage the same with speed limits you

993
00:38:37,550 –> 00:38:40,610
you want to encourage compliance you

994
00:38:39,560 –> 00:38:42,200
want to encourage people do the right

995
00:38:40,610 –> 00:38:43,760
thing right but when you have you know

996
00:38:42,200 –> 00:38:47,120
like a speed limit that people you can

997
00:38:43,760 –> 00:38:50,300
drive safely 65 but a set of 40 or you

998
00:38:47,120 –> 00:38:52,250
can drive perfectly fine at 0.09

999
00:38:50,300 –> 00:38:54,230
but now let’s point oh wait now yours

1000
00:38:52,250 –> 00:38:56,420
hardened criminal on the same level some

1001
00:38:54,230 –> 00:38:59,390
not just shit-faced right you know it

1002
00:38:56,420 –> 00:39:01,790
you know we we say our position on that

1003
00:38:59,390 –> 00:39:05,240
is point one two is generally the kind

1004
00:39:01,790 –> 00:39:06,680
of where you’re truly intoxicated are

1005
00:39:05,240 –> 00:39:09,020
different for different people that’s

1006
00:39:06,680 –> 00:39:10,130
kind of kind of like that point where

1007
00:39:09,020 –> 00:39:12,200
you reach the toxication where you’re

1008
00:39:10,130 –> 00:39:14,600
not seeing the drive right and that’s

1009
00:39:12,200 –> 00:39:18,110
that’s kind of the what we’ve seen in

1010
00:39:14,600 –> 00:39:19,400
studies but you know it’s is it’s it’s

1011
00:39:18,110 –> 00:39:21,260
about the money it’s not about safety

1012
00:39:19,400 –> 00:39:23,240
and if you look at any position the

1013
00:39:21,260 –> 00:39:25,700
National Motor Association takes with a

1014
00:39:23,240 –> 00:39:28,280
business I take its it’s just about the

1015
00:39:25,700 –> 00:39:29,870
money it’s not about safety at all yeah

1016
00:39:28,280 –> 00:39:30,920
that’s like when they were talking about

1017
00:39:29,870 –> 00:39:33,140
when they first started talking about

1018
00:39:30,920 –> 00:39:34,760
lowering it to 0.05 I said this isn’t

1019
00:39:33,140 –> 00:39:36,020
about safety this is fundraising yeah

1020
00:39:34,760 –> 00:39:37,840
absolutely this is a hundred percent

1021
00:39:36,020 –> 00:39:40,910
fundraising that’s all that it is and I

1022
00:39:37,840 –> 00:39:41,900
think that MADD Mothers Against Drunk

1023
00:39:40,910 –> 00:39:45,020
Driving was the one that was fighting

1024
00:39:41,900 –> 00:39:46,130
for it yeah there there there just take

1025
00:39:45,020 –> 00:39:48,020
the words of someone else they’re

1026
00:39:46,130 –> 00:39:50,330
propaganda Wars I mean there they are

1027
00:39:48,020 –> 00:39:53,000
they’re just propaganda whores they what

1028
00:39:50,330 –> 00:39:55,730
they say is is just it’s BS and their

1029
00:39:53,000 –> 00:39:57,590
fear mongers right anyone that you know

1030
00:39:55,730 –> 00:39:59,420
as we see if they know the famous

1031
00:39:57,590 –> 00:40:01,940
organization that uses the motherhood

1032
00:39:59,420 –> 00:40:04,340
you know maternal instinct to advocate

1033
00:40:01,940 –> 00:40:07,250
for a very socialist pro-government

1034
00:40:04,340 –> 00:40:08,600
fascist agenda I don’t fall for it and I

1035
00:40:07,250 –> 00:40:10,580
you know people don’t fall for moms

1036
00:40:08,600 –> 00:40:12,560
against you know moms demand action or

1037
00:40:10,580 –> 00:40:13,520
whatever and they shouldn’t fall for

1038
00:40:12,560 –> 00:40:15,350
moms against drunk driving

1039
00:40:13,520 –> 00:40:17,630
I don’t that there’s people you know

1040
00:40:15,350 –> 00:40:19,910
mothers even people these organizations

1041
00:40:17,630 –> 00:40:21,140
that truly feel they’re doing the right

1042
00:40:19,910 –> 00:40:22,850
thing I don’t fault them for that I

1043
00:40:21,140 –> 00:40:24,590
don’t think they’re bad people but what

1044
00:40:22,850 –> 00:40:26,690
what they do with the alligator for is

1045
00:40:24,590 –> 00:40:27,950
it goes against you know it does the

1046
00:40:26,690 –> 00:40:28,760
obviously one thing what that happen I

1047
00:40:27,950 –> 00:40:32,690
think right

1048
00:40:28,760 –> 00:40:36,860
so speed limits you kind of touched on

1049
00:40:32,690 –> 00:40:40,490
it really quickly I know that I know

1050
00:40:36,860 –> 00:40:41,660
that you on highways I just don’t

1051
00:40:40,490 –> 00:40:45,080
believe in them like they don’t exist

1052
00:40:41,660 –> 00:40:46,520
not really to me they do to police like

1053
00:40:45,080 –> 00:40:49,599
pulled behind me right

1054
00:40:46,520 –> 00:40:52,609
and to the cops that are around me but

1055
00:40:49,599 –> 00:40:55,760
so where do you guys stand on speed

1056
00:40:52,609 –> 00:40:57,170
limits so we are a stand it actually

1057
00:40:55,760 –> 00:40:58,550
follows in fact a lot of our positions

1058
00:40:57,170 –> 00:41:02,750
follow this is there’s something called

1059
00:40:58,550 –> 00:41:04,220
the uniform traffic code which is kind

1060
00:41:02,750 –> 00:41:06,680
of like the policy manual for all

1061
00:41:04,220 –> 00:41:08,990
traffic engineers you know people build

1062
00:41:06,680 –> 00:41:11,420
roadways and traffic controls follow

1063
00:41:08,990 –> 00:41:14,240
this what it should be is it the 85th

1064
00:41:11,420 –> 00:41:17,150
percentile of the prevailing speed so

1065
00:41:14,240 –> 00:41:19,880
this is about 80 fit the 85th percentile

1066
00:41:17,150 –> 00:41:22,250
of free-flowing traffic so if you’re

1067
00:41:19,880 –> 00:41:23,869
driving you know if you can safely drive

1068
00:41:22,250 –> 00:41:26,810
down a highway there’s no obstructions

1069
00:41:23,869 –> 00:41:28,369
it’s flat there’s not like cross traffic

1070
00:41:26,810 –> 00:41:32,270
and go there safely see why people go

1071
00:41:28,369 –> 00:41:33,800
will go 65 and so we’d go to 84 the

1072
00:41:32,270 –> 00:41:36,320
percentile of that speeds but the speed

1073
00:41:33,800 –> 00:41:38,060
limit should be um you know there’s just

1074
00:41:36,320 –> 00:41:41,210
give you a quick story about the speed

1075
00:41:38,060 –> 00:41:42,680
limits the new your 3 Way there was a

1076
00:41:41,210 –> 00:41:46,040
study conducted in the New York Thruway

1077
00:41:42,680 –> 00:41:49,369
on the speed that was 55 the average

1078
00:41:46,040 –> 00:41:51,080
speed was 68 miles per hour and so they

1079
00:41:49,369 –> 00:41:52,849
wanted to you know someone in government

1080
00:41:51,080 –> 00:41:54,580
said we should raise this to 65 because

1081
00:41:52,849 –> 00:41:57,410
people are going to see see it anyway

1082
00:41:54,580 –> 00:41:59,089
overwhelmingly the the the response to

1083
00:41:57,410 –> 00:42:02,089
that was now people gonna go to start

1084
00:41:59,089 –> 00:42:04,339
going 78 right and so you know just

1085
00:42:02,089 –> 00:42:07,070
fear-mongering left and right so they

1086
00:42:04,339 –> 00:42:07,970
raised it from 55 to 68 and they studied

1087
00:42:07,070 –> 00:42:15,470
it for 18 months

1088
00:42:07,970 –> 00:42:17,540
I’m sorry 55 to 65 yeah so they they

1089
00:42:15,470 –> 00:42:19,580
raised it to 65 and if they study it for

1090
00:42:17,540 –> 00:42:22,430
18 months the average speed remained at

1091
00:42:19,580 –> 00:42:24,080
68 so setting speed limits really should

1092
00:42:22,430 –> 00:42:25,369
be and not just artificially low so they

1093
00:42:24,080 –> 00:42:26,930
can get pulled pull people over

1094
00:42:25,369 –> 00:42:30,020
indiscriminately and take money from

1095
00:42:26,930 –> 00:42:31,820
them when they’re we’re at where people

1096
00:42:30,020 –> 00:42:34,430
drive safely people do drive safely and

1097
00:42:31,820 –> 00:42:35,660
that’s another misconception you know if

1098
00:42:34,430 –> 00:42:36,560
you’re driving through a school zone or

1099
00:42:35,660 –> 00:42:37,550
something you see well kids on the side

1100
00:42:36,560 –> 00:42:38,990
of the road you’re not gonna go you’re

1101
00:42:37,550 –> 00:42:40,250
not you don’t care what the speed limit

1102
00:42:38,990 –> 00:42:41,839
is you’re gonna drive what you feel

1103
00:42:40,250 –> 00:42:44,000
safely or that your reaction time

1104
00:42:41,839 –> 00:42:46,910
weather conditions things like that

1105
00:42:44,000 –> 00:42:48,200
well people ignore that and fly through

1106
00:42:46,910 –> 00:42:50,450
a school zone every now and then of

1107
00:42:48,200 –> 00:42:51,950
course as well will they do it now yes

1108
00:42:50,450 –> 00:42:52,970
they do it with cops on the side of the

1109
00:42:51,950 –> 00:42:55,220
road they still do it

1110
00:42:52,970 –> 00:42:57,470
so you know a lot of it is fear

1111
00:42:55,220 –> 00:42:59,720
mongering but but we definitely should

1112
00:42:57,470 –> 00:43:00,020
be set us a tip or sometimes what what

1113
00:42:59,720 –> 00:43:02,830
the

1114
00:43:00,020 –> 00:43:04,510
Engineering what the engineer studies

1115
00:43:02,830 –> 00:43:07,460
right

1116
00:43:04,510 –> 00:43:10,580
so I know like here in Florida the speed

1117
00:43:07,460 –> 00:43:13,700
moments actually are terrible not at all

1118
00:43:10,580 –> 00:43:17,360
no no they really aren’t like it’s 40 on

1119
00:43:13,700 –> 00:43:19,280
most streets that aren’t 40 45 yeah yeah

1120
00:43:17,360 –> 00:43:22,400
I live in a residence she’s 45 so okay

1121
00:43:19,280 –> 00:43:24,680
yeah and also that there were there at

1122
00:43:22,400 –> 00:43:26,150
least one in Florida the law enforcement

1123
00:43:24,680 –> 00:43:29,540
here seems to be pretty hands-off

1124
00:43:26,150 –> 00:43:30,680
generally about traffic anyway I I Drive

1125
00:43:29,540 –> 00:43:32,210
all over Tampa Bay all over the state of

1126
00:43:30,680 –> 00:43:34,340
Florida really they’re sticklers for

1127
00:43:32,210 –> 00:43:36,980
parking though parking yes and on the

1128
00:43:34,340 –> 00:43:39,380
hallways they’re pretty strict but yeah

1129
00:43:36,980 –> 00:43:41,630
III don’t think but good things to say

1130
00:43:39,380 –> 00:43:44,750
about the cops here just really like you

1131
00:43:41,630 –> 00:43:45,920
know but III think an overwhelming wait

1132
00:43:44,750 –> 00:43:49,670
if you let you know going back to red

1133
00:43:45,920 –> 00:43:51,920
light cameras and try n roadblocks your

1134
00:43:49,670 –> 00:43:54,020
your just your rank and file patrol guys

1135
00:43:51,920 –> 00:43:56,000
absolutely hate them I’ve never okay

1136
00:43:54,020 –> 00:43:58,010
nobody doing this is 2013 I’ve never met

1137
00:43:56,000 –> 00:44:00,590
a police officer just a rank and file a

1138
00:43:58,010 –> 00:44:02,270
kind of guy that likes the cameras or

1139
00:44:00,590 –> 00:44:04,700
likes roadblocks now let’s let’s say

1140
00:44:02,270 –> 00:44:06,080
they’ll they’ll do it as overtime but

1141
00:44:04,700 –> 00:44:07,609
they don’t really they don’t look that

1142
00:44:06,080 –> 00:44:09,320
far into it but they don’t like them

1143
00:44:07,609 –> 00:44:11,660
they like oh I have to do it or it’s

1144
00:44:09,320 –> 00:44:13,490
over time I get bills to pay I get that

1145
00:44:11,660 –> 00:44:15,730
but but overwhelmingly that’s not the

1146
00:44:13,490 –> 00:44:18,410
police aren’t supportive of that great

1147
00:44:15,730 –> 00:44:20,480
so if somebody were to get a red light

1148
00:44:18,410 –> 00:44:22,460
ticket is there do you guys have

1149
00:44:20,480 –> 00:44:24,680
directions on how yeah so we fight it

1150
00:44:22,460 –> 00:44:26,390
yeah so we have if you want to become a

1151
00:44:24,680 –> 00:44:27,680
member or not again I don’t work for

1152
00:44:26,390 –> 00:44:30,500
them I don’t take any money from from

1153
00:44:27,680 –> 00:44:32,570
this association but membership super

1154
00:44:30,500 –> 00:44:34,520
cheap it’s like 10 or 15 bucks and they

1155
00:44:32,570 –> 00:44:37,040
have a second 200 page document on how

1156
00:44:34,520 –> 00:44:39,109
to fight tickets that’s every ticket and

1157
00:44:37,040 –> 00:44:40,190
I I’ve been through it it’s a big book

1158
00:44:39,109 –> 00:44:41,869
that you download for free when you

1159
00:44:40,190 –> 00:44:44,240
become a member and it has really good

1160
00:44:41,869 –> 00:44:45,440
advice on speeding how to fight speeding

1161
00:44:44,240 –> 00:44:46,520
tickets yourself and all that it’s

1162
00:44:45,440 –> 00:44:48,650
actually really good

1163
00:44:46,520 –> 00:44:49,820
specific to Road that camera it’s really

1164
00:44:48,650 –> 00:44:52,400
funny

1165
00:44:49,820 –> 00:44:54,619
so and let’s let’s go to Tennessee for

1166
00:44:52,400 –> 00:44:56,510
instance and Tennessee if you get any

1167
00:44:54,619 –> 00:44:59,960
speed a speeding camera ticket at a red

1168
00:44:56,510 –> 00:45:01,670
light ticket you get sense he was a $50

1169
00:44:59,960 –> 00:45:04,400
ticket if you don’t pay it after 60 days

1170
00:45:01,670 –> 00:45:06,440
it becomes like 100 125 right in

1171
00:45:04,400 –> 00:45:07,760
Tennessee if you don’t pay a kit a road

1172
00:45:06,440 –> 00:45:10,040
light camera ticket absolutely nothing

1173
00:45:07,760 –> 00:45:12,020
happens to you it’s codified in Titan

1174
00:45:10,040 –> 00:45:13,430
content and the state code so it’s

1175
00:45:12,020 –> 00:45:13,700
Tennessee codes they annotated have you

1176
00:45:13,430 –> 00:45:17,000
file

1177
00:45:13,700 –> 00:45:19,010
eight 198 six subsection M specifically

1178
00:45:17,000 –> 00:45:21,380
says non-payment of a red light camera

1179
00:45:19,010 –> 00:45:23,270
ticket has no bearing it cannot affect

1180
00:45:21,380 –> 00:45:25,430
your credit report it can’t go on your

1181
00:45:23,270 –> 00:45:26,660
license it can’t be reported nothing

1182
00:45:25,430 –> 00:45:27,890
happened so if you don’t pay in

1183
00:45:26,660 –> 00:45:29,569
Tennessee absolutely nothing happens

1184
00:45:27,890 –> 00:45:31,549
though they’ll keep asking you for money

1185
00:45:29,569 –> 00:45:33,319
and then when there were like camera

1186
00:45:31,549 –> 00:45:34,670
company doesn’t get payment they’ll send

1187
00:45:33,319 –> 00:45:35,990
to the other scam your organizations

1188
00:45:34,670 –> 00:45:38,240
that look like a law firm said you were

1189
00:45:35,990 –> 00:45:40,280
obligated to pay this so I get was funny

1190
00:45:38,240 –> 00:45:41,869
when when I first started you know and

1191
00:45:40,280 –> 00:45:44,299
2013 when I first started getting public

1192
00:45:41,869 –> 00:45:45,770
with this I’d be on the news and radio

1193
00:45:44,299 –> 00:45:48,380
stations stuff and they’d say that’s not

1194
00:45:45,770 –> 00:45:49,970
really true I see it absolutely it’s

1195
00:45:48,380 –> 00:45:52,010
look it up they look it up like watching

1196
00:45:49,970 –> 00:45:53,299
this more to that and so finally it’s

1197
00:45:52,010 –> 00:45:54,890
like let’s put it into this so I went to

1198
00:45:53,299 –> 00:45:57,319
a city council meeting I said something

1199
00:45:54,890 –> 00:45:58,790
to it and the city councilmen were like

1200
00:45:57,319 –> 00:46:01,130
oh that’s they’ve read it like

1201
00:45:58,790 –> 00:46:03,049
interesting and then they asked the

1202
00:46:01,130 –> 00:46:05,270
police chief and the city attorney they

1203
00:46:03,049 –> 00:46:06,859
said you know we’re reading 55 eat 198

1204
00:46:05,270 –> 00:46:09,380
subsection M and it specifically says

1205
00:46:06,859 –> 00:46:12,109
that you don’t pay nothing happens and

1206
00:46:09,380 –> 00:46:13,579
they’re like yeah technically nothing we

1207
00:46:12,109 –> 00:46:15,740
can do but you should still pay us the

1208
00:46:13,579 –> 00:46:17,690
right thing to do and then the city

1209
00:46:15,740 –> 00:46:19,220
attorney was like yeah nothing happens

1210
00:46:17,690 –> 00:46:20,690
if you don’t pay it like we’re not

1211
00:46:19,220 –> 00:46:22,010
allowed to do anything just rip it up

1212
00:46:20,690 –> 00:46:24,260
throw it away but we still think you

1213
00:46:22,010 –> 00:46:25,369
should pay but just give us money just

1214
00:46:24,260 –> 00:46:26,750
give the money okay just give the

1215
00:46:25,369 –> 00:46:30,260
government your hard-earned money but

1216
00:46:26,750 –> 00:46:31,339
right that’s and so in in Florida what

1217
00:46:30,260 –> 00:46:34,940
has a for it’s a little bit different

1218
00:46:31,339 –> 00:46:36,349
it’s unfortunate but you know you get a

1219
00:46:34,940 –> 00:46:38,809
basically a non-moving kind of

1220
00:46:36,349 –> 00:46:40,730
infraction if you don’t pay it then the

1221
00:46:38,809 –> 00:46:42,980
red light camera company will then ask

1222
00:46:40,730 –> 00:46:45,349
the circuit court to write you a uniform

1223
00:46:42,980 –> 00:46:46,490
traffic citation and then you then have

1224
00:46:45,349 –> 00:46:49,040
to then fight that in court

1225
00:46:46,490 –> 00:46:51,290
yeah I was like man if I ever get one

1226
00:46:49,040 –> 00:46:52,609
I’m not paying antenna so you don’t pay

1227
00:46:51,290 –> 00:46:53,710
it but in Florida you do have to address

1228
00:46:52,609 –> 00:46:56,660
it like I said

1229
00:46:53,710 –> 00:46:59,839
Yukie first of all they don’t know who

1230
00:46:56,660 –> 00:47:02,270
was driving how how can a police officer

1231
00:46:59,839 –> 00:47:03,859
sign a uniform traffic citation and give

1232
00:47:02,270 –> 00:47:05,630
it to somebody not knowing if they were

1233
00:47:03,859 –> 00:47:07,160
actually driving or not you’re sliding

1234
00:47:05,630 –> 00:47:09,020
the owner of the vehicle not the driver

1235
00:47:07,160 –> 00:47:10,609
and when they go on the news and all

1236
00:47:09,020 –> 00:47:12,290
that and they said you know we’ve been

1237
00:47:10,609 –> 00:47:14,030
so many of these drivers like you don’t

1238
00:47:12,290 –> 00:47:15,230
know who of any of those people running

1239
00:47:14,030 –> 00:47:17,270
red lights you just gave it to the owner

1240
00:47:15,230 –> 00:47:19,040
of the vehicle and say well the owner of

1241
00:47:17,270 –> 00:47:21,619
the vehicle can can sign an affidavit

1242
00:47:19,040 –> 00:47:23,540
saying who was driving so now then if a

1243
00:47:21,619 –> 00:47:25,190
mechanic or someone driving my car runs

1244
00:47:23,540 –> 00:47:27,710
a red light I wasn’t driving it and then

1245
00:47:25,190 –> 00:47:29,780
I’m then obligated to a

1246
00:47:27,710 –> 00:47:31,550
write a ticket to a friend or some of us

1247
00:47:29,780 –> 00:47:33,530
working on my car and to give them a

1248
00:47:31,550 –> 00:47:34,910
ticket when I don’t even know if it was

1249
00:47:33,530 –> 00:47:37,150
they were the one driving they’re just

1250
00:47:34,910 –> 00:47:39,560
kind of this whole ridiculous web of

1251
00:47:37,150 –> 00:47:40,640
making accusations Casella people say

1252
00:47:39,560 –> 00:47:43,430
but it doesn’t work that way

1253
00:47:40,640 –> 00:47:44,930
if a police officer you know on the

1254
00:47:43,430 –> 00:47:47,119
police officer sees you do it fine but

1255
00:47:44,930 –> 00:47:49,040
but just give me tickets that happens

1256
00:47:47,119 –> 00:47:50,960
the be the owner of the vehicle it’s

1257
00:47:49,040 –> 00:47:55,369
it’s it makes a mockery of the other

1258
00:47:50,960 –> 00:47:58,880
system in my opinion right yeah I know

1259
00:47:55,369 –> 00:48:01,700
that a Stephen Ruth yeah Stephen Ruth a

1260
00:47:58,880 –> 00:48:03,320
red light Robin Long Island yep yep open

1261
00:48:01,700 –> 00:48:05,780
yeah open new year look up his videos on

1262
00:48:03,320 –> 00:48:07,609
YouTube he’s great yeah yeah I know it’s

1263
00:48:05,780 –> 00:48:10,160
been a long time but yeah he he’s uh

1264
00:48:07,609 –> 00:48:12,830
he’s definitely not someone I would I’m

1265
00:48:10,160 –> 00:48:16,160
not that ballsy but he’s great yeah yeah

1266
00:48:12,830 –> 00:48:18,109
I knew that he was going around and and

1267
00:48:16,160 –> 00:48:19,820
I’m guessing that it’s New York so the

1268
00:48:18,109 –> 00:48:22,099
the red light laws are probably much

1269
00:48:19,820 –> 00:48:23,210
worse than yeah almost anywhere else in

1270
00:48:22,099 –> 00:48:25,099
California it’s like three to five

1271
00:48:23,210 –> 00:48:26,630
hundred dollars that’s not surprising

1272
00:48:25,099 –> 00:48:28,490
you down a little bit but he was going

1273
00:48:26,630 –> 00:48:31,540
around and he was taking like a long

1274
00:48:28,490 –> 00:48:33,800
pole or something in yeah yeah yeah

1275
00:48:31,540 –> 00:48:36,200
pushing I don’t advocate that and

1276
00:48:33,800 –> 00:48:38,330
neither does the NMA but it’s hilarious

1277
00:48:36,200 –> 00:48:41,990
but it’s funny and he was just pushing

1278
00:48:38,330 –> 00:48:44,420
it up and I know he did an interview

1279
00:48:41,990 –> 00:48:46,280
with some station but in front of a

1280
00:48:44,420 –> 00:48:47,750
deuce yeah he he called a news crew to

1281
00:48:46,280 –> 00:48:49,220
the intersection said you know said

1282
00:48:47,750 –> 00:48:51,320
here’s you know these are stupid looks

1283
00:48:49,220 –> 00:48:52,700
how stupid I think they are and your

1284
00:48:51,320 –> 00:48:54,650
pores like that just happen did you just

1285
00:48:52,700 –> 00:48:56,480
do that he’s like yeah so but they did

1286
00:48:54,650 –> 00:48:58,250
they didn’t air it right I don’t know

1287
00:48:56,480 –> 00:48:59,990
it’s on YouTube but I don’t know I would

1288
00:48:58,250 –> 00:49:01,339
assume I know I got aired because it

1289
00:48:59,990 –> 00:49:02,599
that was a part of the story it

1290
00:49:01,339 –> 00:49:04,550
definitely got aired I mean he’s done it

1291
00:49:02,599 –> 00:49:06,140
several times right yeah no well so I

1292
00:49:04,550 –> 00:49:10,609
know that’s one like I think one of the

1293
00:49:06,140 –> 00:49:12,380
times the the the Internet service

1294
00:49:10,609 –> 00:49:14,060
provider that did the internet to the

1295
00:49:12,380 –> 00:49:17,390
red light cameras was the same one that

1296
00:49:14,060 –> 00:49:18,859
owned the news station and they said

1297
00:49:17,390 –> 00:49:20,599
you’re not airing yeah

1298
00:49:18,859 –> 00:49:23,240
well it’s just yeah that doesn’t

1299
00:49:20,599 –> 00:49:25,599
surprise me just like if you look at who

1300
00:49:23,240 –> 00:49:29,000
owns these these photo enforcement

1301
00:49:25,599 –> 00:49:30,320
contractors it ends up going to like

1302
00:49:29,000 –> 00:49:31,820
some kind of investment company like

1303
00:49:30,320 –> 00:49:33,680
Berkshire Hathaway or I’m sorry

1304
00:49:31,820 –> 00:49:35,930
Berkshire Hathaway their own insurance

1305
00:49:33,680 –> 00:49:38,510
companies right and so that leaves me

1306
00:49:35,930 –> 00:49:40,220
another point where I often whenever I

1307
00:49:38,510 –> 00:49:41,060
did this do these interviews about red

1308
00:49:40,220 –> 00:49:42,740
light cameras

1309
00:49:41,060 –> 00:49:43,850
reporters will always come to me and say

1310
00:49:42,740 –> 00:49:46,670
well the Insurance Institute for Highway

1311
00:49:43,850 –> 00:49:49,010
Safety says that they do this great job

1312
00:49:46,670 –> 00:49:51,170
and they just reduce accidents it’s like

1313
00:49:49,010 –> 00:49:52,910
they work for the insurance company are

1314
00:49:51,170 –> 00:49:54,350
you really that dense right when you get

1315
00:49:52,910 –> 00:49:56,570
a red light camera ticket it raises your

1316
00:49:54,350 –> 00:49:58,550
rates and they make money from it they

1317
00:49:56,570 –> 00:50:00,140
do not represent safety of the motorist

1318
00:49:58,550 –> 00:50:01,790
they represent the insurance companies

1319
00:50:00,140 –> 00:50:03,200
that pay them and I’m not trying to

1320
00:50:01,790 –> 00:50:04,820
sound like conspiracy theory it’s

1321
00:50:03,200 –> 00:50:06,740
literally insurance isn’t the title of

1322
00:50:04,820 –> 00:50:08,480
this organization okay they work for the

1323
00:50:06,740 –> 00:50:10,340
insurance companies any argument they

1324
00:50:08,480 –> 00:50:11,810
put out any study they put out has to be

1325
00:50:10,340 –> 00:50:13,310
known that it’s viewed through the lens

1326
00:50:11,810 –> 00:50:14,780
of their work for the insurance

1327
00:50:13,310 –> 00:50:18,260
companies and they are looking out for

1328
00:50:14,780 –> 00:50:22,010
the bottom line of their their clients

1329
00:50:18,260 –> 00:50:23,300
basically say yeah I hi people I I’ve

1330
00:50:22,010 –> 00:50:24,650
never this is my first time on a podcast

1331
00:50:23,300 –> 00:50:27,320
yeah the grounds like it we’re obligated

1332
00:50:24,650 –> 00:50:29,330
to say hi to people I mean mass Jacob

1333
00:50:27,320 –> 00:50:30,620
Maria Sarah says thanks for reminding me

1334
00:50:29,330 –> 00:50:32,240
to pay a parking ticket for the meter

1335
00:50:30,620 –> 00:50:35,270
ending 5 minutes for I got to it

1336
00:50:32,240 –> 00:50:38,450
yeah I hate parking tickets so much on

1337
00:50:35,270 –> 00:50:40,130
and I I’ve always lived downtown Reese I

1338
00:50:38,450 –> 00:50:43,640
live in downtown Clearwater now so I’m

1339
00:50:40,130 –> 00:50:45,290
always subject to that and it is where

1340
00:50:43,640 –> 00:50:45,800
it is but let me it ruins I mentioned

1341
00:50:45,290 –> 00:50:48,680
Clearwater

1342
00:50:45,800 –> 00:50:51,080
I want to real quick just something I’m

1343
00:50:48,680 –> 00:50:52,820
working on right now the and the city of

1344
00:50:51,080 –> 00:50:54,620
Clearwater the road like camera

1345
00:50:52,820 –> 00:50:58,040
contractors coming up for renewal next

1346
00:50:54,620 –> 00:51:01,250
week okay and so as part of that I’ve

1347
00:50:58,040 –> 00:51:03,980
done an enormous enormous amount of open

1348
00:51:01,250 –> 00:51:05,780
records requests looking to emails

1349
00:51:03,980 –> 00:51:07,970
looking at the reports looking at stouts

1350
00:51:05,780 –> 00:51:10,730
looking at traffic counts a great

1351
00:51:07,970 –> 00:51:13,130
personal expense to me Yabo’s and I

1352
00:51:10,730 –> 00:51:15,020
intend money but and this isn’t your

1353
00:51:13,130 –> 00:51:16,250
full-time job so this is why it’s not my

1354
00:51:15,020 –> 00:51:18,230
full-time just what you’re doing when

1355
00:51:16,250 –> 00:51:20,980
you’re off of work what I’m off work and

1356
00:51:18,230 –> 00:51:24,800
I my full-time job is very full-time but

1357
00:51:20,980 –> 00:51:26,660
it’s done a lot of work and so on

1358
00:51:24,800 –> 00:51:28,010
let me real quick paint a picture for

1359
00:51:26,660 –> 00:51:30,470
those in the city of Clearwater there’s

1360
00:51:28,010 –> 00:51:32,330
two intersections that are controlled by

1361
00:51:30,470 –> 00:51:33,530
red-light cameras there’s only too much

1362
00:51:32,330 –> 00:51:35,300
the only two intersections they’re

1363
00:51:33,530 –> 00:51:36,710
pretty big ones it’s again sorry if

1364
00:51:35,300 –> 00:51:38,990
you’re not in Ellis County at home it’s

1365
00:51:36,710 –> 00:51:40,970
it’s Beltran Gulf to Bay and then

1366
00:51:38,990 –> 00:51:43,750
chestnut and Fort Harrison as you come

1367
00:51:40,970 –> 00:51:48,470
off the causeway for a Clearwater Beach

1368
00:51:43,750 –> 00:51:50,450
so real quick so in 2012 when the

1369
00:51:48,470 –> 00:51:52,070
cameras were installed in city of

1370
00:51:50,450 –> 00:51:54,920
Clearwater in 2012 there at these two

1371
00:51:52,070 –> 00:51:58,970
intersections there are 92 crashes

1372
00:51:54,920 –> 00:52:02,059
in 2012 and 2017 and went up to 141

1373
00:51:58,970 –> 00:52:03,950
crashes accidents of these intersections

1374
00:52:02,059 –> 00:52:05,240
so let’s keep my they installed the road

1375
00:52:03,950 –> 00:52:06,530
light cameras they want accidents to go

1376
00:52:05,240 –> 00:52:08,450
down they want Road light rain to go

1377
00:52:06,530 –> 00:52:09,680
down right that’s the – you can make a

1378
00:52:08,450 –> 00:52:11,119
gazillion arguments got red light

1379
00:52:09,680 –> 00:52:13,040
cameras believe me I can talk about it

1380
00:52:11,119 –> 00:52:14,960
all day but what comes down to some of

1381
00:52:13,040 –> 00:52:16,040
the two issues which is it reduces red

1382
00:52:14,960 –> 00:52:17,299
light they want to reduce red light

1383
00:52:16,040 –> 00:52:19,280
running they wanted to reduce accidents

1384
00:52:17,299 –> 00:52:22,160
so we look at the accidents that’s

1385
00:52:19,280 –> 00:52:25,640
ninety two crashes in 2012 all the way

1386
00:52:22,160 –> 00:52:27,410
up to 141 crashes and 2017 the argument

1387
00:52:25,640 –> 00:52:29,150
to that what chief slaughter says is

1388
00:52:27,410 –> 00:52:30,890
well traffic counts have gone way up

1389
00:52:29,150 –> 00:52:33,170
because the economy’s gotten better and

1390
00:52:30,890 –> 00:52:36,619
try the tribe it goes up accidents go up

1391
00:52:33,170 –> 00:52:38,420
the volume did increase we’re looking at

1392
00:52:36,619 –> 00:52:40,130
city of Clearwater traffic stats and

1393
00:52:38,420 –> 00:52:41,690
we’re looking at forward Pinellas

1394
00:52:40,130 –> 00:52:43,460
traffic stats words Pinellas is the

1395
00:52:41,690 –> 00:52:45,290
Metropolitan Planning Organization it’s

1396
00:52:43,460 –> 00:52:46,849
an official County it’s an arm of the

1397
00:52:45,290 –> 00:52:49,069
county government they do they do

1398
00:52:46,849 –> 00:52:50,500
traffic counts every year the traffic

1399
00:52:49,069 –> 00:52:52,490
volumes stayed the same

1400
00:52:50,500 –> 00:52:53,290
accidents went way up traffic volumes

1401
00:52:52,490 –> 00:52:56,510
stayed the same

1402
00:52:53,290 –> 00:52:57,920
so that’s not an argument they are the

1403
00:52:56,510 –> 00:52:59,420
fact of the matter is you cannot spin

1404
00:52:57,920 –> 00:53:02,150
accidents these intersections have

1405
00:52:59,420 –> 00:53:02,960
gotten infinitely more dangerous so

1406
00:53:02,150 –> 00:53:05,869
let’s take that out of the equation

1407
00:53:02,960 –> 00:53:07,819
let’s look at how many red light runners

1408
00:53:05,869 –> 00:53:08,690
we can count that cuz we know how many

1409
00:53:07,819 –> 00:53:11,089
tickets are given out of these

1410
00:53:08,690 –> 00:53:12,799
intersections so 2013 which is the first

1411
00:53:11,089 –> 00:53:14,660
full year that these cameras were in

1412
00:53:12,799 –> 00:53:15,770
operation the city of Clearwater they

1413
00:53:14,660 –> 00:53:17,119
issued eight thousand two hundred

1414
00:53:15,770 –> 00:53:20,780
seventy five tickets to red light

1415
00:53:17,119 –> 00:53:22,609
runners and 2018 they issued seventeen

1416
00:53:20,780 –> 00:53:25,400
thousand six hundred and ninety one

1417
00:53:22,609 –> 00:53:27,020
tickets so red light running and then

1418
00:53:25,400 –> 00:53:28,220
with this perspective from the time they

1419
00:53:27,020 –> 00:53:32,240
were installed the first full year of

1420
00:53:28,220 –> 00:53:33,470
operation until 2018 doubled red light

1421
00:53:32,240 –> 00:53:36,319
running has doubled after the

1422
00:53:33,470 –> 00:53:40,160
installation these cameras now look at

1423
00:53:36,319 –> 00:53:43,069
that and and tell me that that that this

1424
00:53:40,160 –> 00:53:45,380
is a good idea and so according fruit so

1425
00:53:43,069 –> 00:53:46,970
for the city it is like they make a lot

1426
00:53:45,380 –> 00:53:48,890
of money they’re making the tunnel a lot

1427
00:53:46,970 –> 00:53:50,390
of money and you know look at access

1428
00:53:48,890 –> 00:53:51,470
have gone way up red light running has

1429
00:53:50,390 –> 00:53:52,880
doubled since these cameras are

1430
00:53:51,470 –> 00:53:55,160
installed and I can back all this up

1431
00:53:52,880 –> 00:53:56,839
with data okay this is actually the the

1432
00:53:55,160 –> 00:53:58,280
tickets come from red flags which is the

1433
00:53:56,839 –> 00:53:59,990
city’s red light camera company provider

1434
00:53:58,280 –> 00:54:01,250
every month they send you how many

1435
00:53:59,990 –> 00:54:02,990
tickets were given ask you to add them

1436
00:54:01,250 –> 00:54:04,579
all up way too much time I spent on that

1437
00:54:02,990 –> 00:54:06,140
but it’s worth it so I got good info

1438
00:54:04,579 –> 00:54:07,490
that note I guarantee nobody else looks

1439
00:54:06,140 –> 00:54:08,390
at this right including the police

1440
00:54:07,490 –> 00:54:11,960
Darren

1441
00:54:08,390 –> 00:54:14,420
but I can show in the report so I you

1442
00:54:11,960 –> 00:54:16,160
know I happen to I called the the chief

1443
00:54:14,420 –> 00:54:17,450
slaughter the Clearwater Police Chief is

1444
00:54:16,160 –> 00:54:19,340
actually a great guy I like him a lot

1445
00:54:17,450 –> 00:54:22,190
the Clearwater police officers are great

1446
00:54:19,340 –> 00:54:23,900
people I said hey I just just curious

1447
00:54:22,190 –> 00:54:27,370
you know are you that’s really the first

1448
00:54:23,900 –> 00:54:27,370
time that’s ever been said on this show

1449
00:54:31,570 –> 00:54:37,400
but they’re great people but I I asked

1450
00:54:35,690 –> 00:54:38,750
the the the Chief of Police I said hey

1451
00:54:37,400 –> 00:54:40,310
you know I live in Clearwater I’m just

1452
00:54:38,750 –> 00:54:41,840
you know I see the world like camera

1453
00:54:40,310 –> 00:54:44,030
company the Congress coming back for

1454
00:54:41,840 –> 00:54:45,740
renewal what do you think about it his

1455
00:54:44,030 –> 00:54:47,570
first question was why are you trying to

1456
00:54:45,740 –> 00:54:50,180
sell more of them he had no idea who I

1457
00:54:47,570 –> 00:54:52,520
was I said no I’m no one’s asking a

1458
00:54:50,180 –> 00:54:54,170
question because yeah it’s nothing to be

1459
00:54:52,520 –> 00:54:55,850
we’re gonna renew it in August we’re

1460
00:54:54,170 –> 00:54:57,290
gonna put a fresh we’re gonna give it a

1461
00:54:55,850 –> 00:55:01,100
City Council to be renewed in August

1462
00:54:57,290 –> 00:55:03,080
right and so I said okay well what is a

1463
00:55:01,100 –> 00:55:05,840
good what does a good successful program

1464
00:55:03,080 –> 00:55:07,190
look like you and you don’t didn’t

1465
00:55:05,840 –> 00:55:08,720
really give me a straight answer and I

1466
00:55:07,190 –> 00:55:09,620
said okay well you know and I’m not

1467
00:55:08,720 –> 00:55:11,570
gonna give him everything I just told

1468
00:55:09,620 –> 00:55:12,950
you guys that’s not gonna be told to

1469
00:55:11,570 –> 00:55:14,720
anyone told that the City Council

1470
00:55:12,950 –> 00:55:15,860
meeting when this contract comes up all

1471
00:55:14,720 –> 00:55:17,540
this information can be jogged out there

1472
00:55:15,860 –> 00:55:18,680
and they they can’t spend it cuz that’s

1473
00:55:17,540 –> 00:55:21,290
what they do is they try to spin it they

1474
00:55:18,680 –> 00:55:22,910
flying people to spend the data but you

1475
00:55:21,290 –> 00:55:24,440
know I said what does a successful

1476
00:55:22,910 –> 00:55:26,300
program look like to you and it didn’t

1477
00:55:24,440 –> 00:55:28,160
didn’t give me an answer and I said well

1478
00:55:26,300 –> 00:55:29,720
you know they’re there access have gone

1479
00:55:28,160 –> 00:55:32,450
way up and read like running has gone

1480
00:55:29,720 –> 00:55:34,250
way up these intersections you guys said

1481
00:55:32,450 –> 00:55:36,230
well you know my thing is is if they’re

1482
00:55:34,250 –> 00:55:37,070
you know if you’re running if you’re

1483
00:55:36,230 –> 00:55:38,420
running a red light you should get a

1484
00:55:37,070 –> 00:55:41,000
ticket it’s all I got to say about that

1485
00:55:38,420 –> 00:55:45,320
Soroka and that’s where it stands so

1486
00:55:41,000 –> 00:55:47,120
next actually it’ll be yeah what’s his

1487
00:55:45,320 –> 00:55:49,310
Thursday today is Thursday yes yeah

1488
00:55:47,120 –> 00:55:52,310
awesome yeah next this coming Wednesday

1489
00:55:49,310 –> 00:55:54,500
is the City Council meeting and there’s

1490
00:55:52,310 –> 00:55:55,850
the the city of Clearwater is very open

1491
00:55:54,500 –> 00:55:57,950
transparent they actually allow you to

1492
00:55:55,850 –> 00:55:59,390
go speak not only at the beginning but

1493
00:55:57,950 –> 00:56:01,190
they allow you to speak after so if

1494
00:55:59,390 –> 00:56:02,780
there’s like other agenda item right and

1495
00:56:01,190 –> 00:56:04,250
then they’ll say well we want to pass an

1496
00:56:02,780 –> 00:56:06,050
ordinance or you know something to do

1497
00:56:04,250 –> 00:56:07,700
this they actually give citizens a point

1498
00:56:06,050 –> 00:56:10,280
the chance to speak after the city

1499
00:56:07,700 –> 00:56:12,260
presents their case which is every city

1500
00:56:10,280 –> 00:56:13,340
should do that in my opinion so the

1501
00:56:12,260 –> 00:56:14,780
city’s going to go give their case

1502
00:56:13,340 –> 00:56:16,460
they’re gonna plea they’re going to give

1503
00:56:14,780 –> 00:56:18,350
their BS and I’m gonna give my

1504
00:56:16,460 –> 00:56:20,420
information to them for three minutes

1505
00:56:18,350 –> 00:56:22,280
and then they vote on it and so I’m

1506
00:56:20,420 –> 00:56:24,260
really hoping

1507
00:56:22,280 –> 00:56:26,930
I’m really hoping because this is a

1508
00:56:24,260 –> 00:56:29,780
multi-million dollar program and I don’t

1509
00:56:26,930 –> 00:56:31,910
know what’s up how much how much is a

1510
00:56:29,780 –> 00:56:32,990
red light ticket here I don’t know I’d

1511
00:56:31,910 –> 00:56:35,300
never believe it or not I’ve never

1512
00:56:32,990 –> 00:56:36,859
gotten a red light camera ticket was

1513
00:56:35,300 –> 00:56:38,359
another ever reporters like oh you just

1514
00:56:36,859 –> 00:56:40,580
posed to be mad you can take us all I’ve

1515
00:56:38,359 –> 00:56:43,700
never got to take it but I believe

1516
00:56:40,580 –> 00:56:46,490
they’re a hundred twenty-five ish maybe

1517
00:56:43,700 –> 00:56:48,950
a little bit less 125 so at seventeen

1518
00:56:46,490 –> 00:56:52,340
seventeen thousand yeah well and then

1519
00:56:48,950 –> 00:56:54,109
yeah it yeah it’s it gets really

1520
00:56:52,340 –> 00:56:56,900
convoluted because the the can’t that

1521
00:56:54,109 –> 00:56:59,570
company that runs E is actually actually

1522
00:56:56,900 –> 00:57:03,020
get quite a bit of money from this cost

1523
00:56:59,570 –> 00:57:04,869
a lot of money to do it right but yeah

1524
00:57:03,020 –> 00:57:07,010
it’s it’s it’s insane and they’re not

1525
00:57:04,869 –> 00:57:09,109
another thing to the city and this is

1526
00:57:07,010 –> 00:57:12,650
true with Tennessee every city when you

1527
00:57:09,109 –> 00:57:15,140
look at it is the police chief sets the

1528
00:57:12,650 –> 00:57:16,369
budget and they set how much money they

1529
00:57:15,140 –> 00:57:18,980
think that these tickets are going to

1530
00:57:16,369 –> 00:57:20,840
make for this city they always say every

1531
00:57:18,980 –> 00:57:22,490
day do I say we these are gonna reduce

1532
00:57:20,840 –> 00:57:23,780
red light Ryan so if you say it’s gonna

1533
00:57:22,490 –> 00:57:25,460
reduce red light running your effect

1534
00:57:23,780 –> 00:57:27,109
will be saying you’re expecting revenue

1535
00:57:25,460 –> 00:57:28,849
to go down at these intersections these

1536
00:57:27,109 –> 00:57:31,460
cameras every year it never happens a

1537
00:57:28,849 –> 00:57:33,800
city of clear water budgets five hundred

1538
00:57:31,460 –> 00:57:35,930
thousand dollars every year as revenue

1539
00:57:33,800 –> 00:57:37,310
to the city not total this is revenue to

1540
00:57:35,930 –> 00:57:39,349
the city of Clearwater five hundred

1541
00:57:37,310 –> 00:57:41,119
thousand dollars every single year so

1542
00:57:39,349 –> 00:57:42,859
they go to City Council and say in a

1543
00:57:41,119 –> 00:57:45,050
citizen and say we these will reduce red

1544
00:57:42,859 –> 00:57:46,849
light running mayor City Council these

1545
00:57:45,050 –> 00:57:48,140
will reduce red light running and then

1546
00:57:46,849 –> 00:57:48,740
they go right their budget and they put

1547
00:57:48,140 –> 00:57:50,450
on here

1548
00:57:48,740 –> 00:57:52,940
you know it’ll say the same or get more

1549
00:57:50,450 –> 00:57:55,339
so it’s double phase you know if it’s

1550
00:57:52,940 –> 00:57:57,109
it’s mind-boggling how it works but it

1551
00:57:55,339 –> 00:58:00,650
in it you know you wouldn’t think that a

1552
00:57:57,109 –> 00:58:02,599
government program would do the exact

1553
00:58:00,650 –> 00:58:06,950
opposite I know it is or whatever it is

1554
00:58:02,599 –> 00:58:09,200
that they’re trying to do I know I know

1555
00:58:06,950 –> 00:58:10,670
catch your breath folks it’s it’s all

1556
00:58:09,200 –> 00:58:18,230
about so more on people running red

1557
00:58:10,670 –> 00:58:20,020
lights look more people do it so that is

1558
00:58:18,230 –> 00:58:24,560
just about all the time we have actually

1559
00:58:20,020 –> 00:58:28,640
do man I have to ask you said you do

1560
00:58:24,560 –> 00:58:32,150
stand up do you see these do stand up

1561
00:58:28,640 –> 00:58:34,310
open mics so it’s a no we’re out of time

1562
00:58:32,150 –> 00:58:35,890
but I’ll give maybe we can go over its

1563
00:58:34,310 –> 00:58:39,339
podcast there’s nothing

1564
00:58:35,890 –> 00:58:40,839
you know network program yeah we don’t

1565
00:58:39,339 –> 00:58:44,019
have a commercial break I have to go to

1566
00:58:40,839 –> 00:58:45,430
yeah it was funny week so I I’ve been a

1567
00:58:44,019 –> 00:58:50,049
huge scene at comedy fan my whole life

1568
00:58:45,430 –> 00:58:51,759
and this time last year on they viewed

1569
00:58:50,049 –> 00:58:53,410
an open mic in downtown st. Petersburg

1570
00:58:51,759 –> 00:58:55,059
actually I used to lived there right a

1571
00:58:53,410 –> 00:58:57,670
block away from it it’s called Iberian

1572
00:58:55,059 –> 00:59:00,789
rooster and they do open mics I believe

1573
00:58:57,670 –> 00:59:02,440
on Wednesday nights and so I been there

1574
00:59:00,789 –> 00:59:06,190
to see it and I’ve always had this idea

1575
00:59:02,440 –> 00:59:09,279
to do open mic and so I I heard I think

1576
00:59:06,190 –> 00:59:10,779
a Tampa Bay Times reporter put on I got

1577
00:59:09,279 –> 00:59:12,970
Twitter his name’s Chris Spada he’s a

1578
00:59:10,779 –> 00:59:14,230
great guy he put out there he’s like hey

1579
00:59:12,970 –> 00:59:15,910
I want talk to someone and follow them

1580
00:59:14,230 –> 00:59:21,640
doing stand-up comedy for the first time

1581
00:59:15,910 –> 00:59:22,900
and so I yeah I my first stand-up comedy

1582
00:59:21,640 –> 00:59:25,809
if you couldn’t imagine how

1583
00:59:22,900 –> 00:59:27,849
nerve-racking it is that telling your

1584
00:59:25,809 –> 00:59:29,950
stupid dick jokes to people and hoping

1585
00:59:27,849 –> 00:59:31,450
they’ll laugh and like imagine doing

1586
00:59:29,950 –> 00:59:33,069
that from a big crowd of strange he’s

1587
00:59:31,450 –> 00:59:34,180
never met any of them before on stage

1588
00:59:33,069 –> 00:59:36,700
you’re trying to be funny

1589
00:59:34,180 –> 00:59:37,930
now imagine a reporter for the the

1590
00:59:36,700 –> 00:59:40,509
largest newspaper in the state of

1591
00:59:37,930 –> 00:59:42,009
Florida and a photographer documenting

1592
00:59:40,509 –> 00:59:42,670
everything you’re doing up there for

1593
00:59:42,009 –> 00:59:45,489
five minutes

1594
00:59:42,670 –> 00:59:48,549
it was so nerve-racking but at the end

1595
00:59:45,489 –> 00:59:51,460
of it I had a blast I I had so much fun

1596
00:59:48,549 –> 00:59:52,269
with it it was it was very scary but you

1597
00:59:51,460 –> 00:59:53,680
know when you’re out there you don’t

1598
00:59:52,269 –> 00:59:55,390
there’s somebody lights on you you don’t

1599
00:59:53,680 –> 00:59:56,980
see the crowd and you’re just like okay

1600
00:59:55,390 –> 00:59:58,480
in my head I’ll just tell myself

1601
00:59:56,980 –> 01:00:00,430
everyone’s laughing having fun they’re

1602
00:59:58,480 –> 01:00:02,710
probably sitting there but I had a lot

1603
01:00:00,430 –> 01:00:04,660
of fun with it and I ended up I thought

1604
01:00:02,710 –> 01:00:06,759
that this he did a story about it and

1605
01:00:04,660 –> 01:00:08,170
end up going on he it was like an online

1606
01:00:06,759 –> 01:00:11,079
story but okay maybe it’s just like a

1607
01:00:08,170 –> 01:00:15,249
little fun story they put online and so

1608
01:00:11,079 –> 01:00:16,569
I I was I was on Sunday morning I was

1609
01:00:15,249 –> 01:00:18,039
kind of I was leaving Turks gonna

1610
01:00:16,569 –> 01:00:19,509
another thing my dad never said Ben said

1611
01:00:18,039 –> 01:00:21,269
the most podcast as I’d left church on

1612
01:00:19,509 –> 01:00:23,950
Sunday is that true

1613
01:00:21,269 –> 01:00:27,009
yeah no I I don’t think that’s ever been

1614
01:00:23,950 –> 01:00:28,920
said on this podcast either like I had

1615
01:00:27,009 –> 01:00:31,210
to think about that one for a second

1616
01:00:28,920 –> 01:00:34,299
maybe I would believe you’re like he

1617
01:00:31,210 –> 01:00:35,650
does but well I go back to my car my

1618
01:00:34,299 –> 01:00:37,989
phone was blowing up and I was on the

1619
01:00:35,650 –> 01:00:40,210
front page of me holding a microphone

1620
01:00:37,989 –> 01:00:41,559
and telling dick jokes and so it was it

1621
01:00:40,210 –> 01:00:43,359
was a lot of fun it was the most

1622
01:00:41,559 –> 01:00:45,039
nerve-wracking thing and you know my

1623
01:00:43,359 –> 01:00:47,380
phone has just been blowing up since

1624
01:00:45,039 –> 01:00:49,480
then my dick jokes my Rosa Parks jokes

1625
01:00:47,380 –> 01:00:51,640
really took off and my phone

1626
01:00:49,480 –> 01:00:56,859
has been blowing up from like I’ve been

1627
01:00:51,640 –> 01:00:58,859
on Stephen Colbert Rosa Parks – yeah

1628
01:00:56,859 –> 01:01:02,020
we’ll talk about that off the air but

1629
01:00:58,859 –> 01:01:03,700
it’s not a racist joke I promise oh but

1630
01:01:02,020 –> 01:01:06,130
yeah my phone’s been blowing up I’ve

1631
01:01:03,700 –> 01:01:07,210
been on all kinds now I was like it was

1632
01:01:06,130 –> 01:01:11,710
the one time I did it yeah I was like

1633
01:01:07,210 –> 01:01:13,720
Stephen Colbert conversation but no I I

1634
01:01:11,710 –> 01:01:17,950
I had fun doing it and it was I’ll

1635
01:01:13,720 –> 01:01:19,930
probably never do it again so nice yeah

1636
01:01:17,950 –> 01:01:22,300
I had no idea I think I remember

1637
01:01:19,930 –> 01:01:23,680
somebody saying Axl’s doing stand-up

1638
01:01:22,300 –> 01:01:27,670
tonight and I think I talk to you like

1639
01:01:23,680 –> 01:01:30,609
twice axle he’s not that funny why would

1640
01:01:27,670 –> 01:01:31,480
he be doing that he’s kind of quiet this

1641
01:01:30,609 –> 01:01:35,950
would okay

1642
01:01:31,480 –> 01:01:38,290
all right I know it’s like I know I’m

1643
01:01:35,950 –> 01:01:40,420
such a nerd I mean like I could talk to

1644
01:01:38,290 –> 01:01:42,520
you about every stupid you know motorist

1645
01:01:40,420 –> 01:01:44,980
rights and transportation policy

1646
01:01:42,520 –> 01:01:46,840
initiative in the country that’s hard to

1647
01:01:44,980 –> 01:01:47,830
like yeah I do have I do enjoy funny

1648
01:01:46,840 –> 01:01:52,000
stuff every now and then

1649
01:01:47,830 –> 01:01:54,340
now I my my favorite stand-up is a Mike

1650
01:01:52,000 –> 01:01:55,480
Birbiglia he’s great he’s great he’s

1651
01:01:54,340 –> 01:01:57,790
great and I just went through and I

1652
01:01:55,480 –> 01:02:01,240
watched everything his again not every

1653
01:01:57,790 –> 01:02:03,010
day I watched him probably four times a

1654
01:02:01,240 –> 01:02:07,450
year I just went through them all in one

1655
01:02:03,010 –> 01:02:08,740
day the other day and yeah I gonna go

1656
01:02:07,450 –> 01:02:10,180
back to Stanhope you know a huge

1657
01:02:08,740 –> 01:02:13,150
inspiration to me both you know

1658
01:02:10,180 –> 01:02:17,080
professionally and comedic Lee his album

1659
01:02:13,150 –> 01:02:19,270
no refunds very libertarian yeah it cost

1660
01:02:17,080 –> 01:02:21,369
a lot of libertarian points and and he’s

1661
01:02:19,270 –> 01:02:24,160
absolutely hilarious i-i’ve seen him a

1662
01:02:21,369 –> 01:02:25,690
million times and his podcast is great I

1663
01:02:24,160 –> 01:02:28,030
never looked I’d never missed an episode

1664
01:02:25,690 –> 01:02:29,859
of his podcast that’s it he’s great

1665
01:02:28,030 –> 01:02:32,050
it’s almost as good as ours but almost

1666
01:02:29,859 –> 01:02:33,369
yeah not quiet I mean it doesn’t look

1667
01:02:32,050 –> 01:02:35,800
across the street from a Bernie Sanders

1668
01:02:33,369 –> 01:02:38,770
mailbox that’s true he’s beat but I mean

1669
01:02:35,800 –> 01:02:43,480
he might they probably busier I’ve never

1670
01:02:38,770 –> 01:02:47,800
been to his house but yeah yeah Mike

1671
01:02:43,480 –> 01:02:49,840
Birbiglia John Mulaney no Louie CK I

1672
01:02:47,800 –> 01:02:52,359
don’t care about that I don’t care about

1673
01:02:49,840 –> 01:02:53,710
that issue it’s Louie CK and he’s

1674
01:02:52,359 –> 01:02:54,730
comedian and I hate to tell you about

1675
01:02:53,710 –> 01:02:56,109
every comedian

1676
01:02:54,730 –> 01:02:58,630
is involved in that in some way shape

1677
01:02:56,109 –> 01:03:00,280
not me I’m mica media and I’m calling

1678
01:02:58,630 –> 01:03:02,710
dumb jokes I’m telling dumb stupid stats

1679
01:03:00,280 –> 01:03:05,589
about driving but right yeah big-time

1680
01:03:02,710 –> 01:03:11,109
comedian stability I’ll have some kind

1681
01:03:05,589 –> 01:03:13,119
of like horrible meaty story and yeah

1682
01:03:11,109 –> 01:03:21,250
axle he came and he talked to me about

1683
01:03:13,119 –> 01:03:23,650
driving statistics and when you’re

1684
01:03:21,250 –> 01:03:25,420
talking about you know about DUI is an

1685
01:03:23,650 –> 01:03:27,910
85th percentile of speed limits then we

1686
01:03:25,420 –> 01:03:30,160
went to the green room and oh my god I

1687
01:03:27,910 –> 01:03:36,130
didn’t think that because they all know

1688
01:03:30,160 –> 01:03:37,510
directions so do you have anything that

1689
01:03:36,130 –> 01:03:39,640
you would like to plug to tell the

1690
01:03:37,510 –> 01:03:41,530
people about tell I mean I’ll give you

1691
01:03:39,640 –> 01:03:43,300
however long you want to do it really no

1692
01:03:41,530 –> 01:03:45,070
I don’t have anything to add I I don’t

1693
01:03:43,300 –> 01:03:46,960
work for any and I work for him but I

1694
01:03:45,070 –> 01:03:48,760
definitely would get involved in

1695
01:03:46,960 –> 01:03:50,770
motorists or as the National motorist

1696
01:03:48,760 –> 01:03:53,109
Association you can just google that I

1697
01:03:50,770 –> 01:03:55,060
believe the websites motorist org to be

1698
01:03:53,109 –> 01:03:57,220
a member is like I said it’s like ten

1699
01:03:55,060 –> 01:04:00,730
fifteen bucks that’s super cheap and it

1700
01:03:57,220 –> 01:04:02,109
goes towards the the what we do and the

1701
01:04:00,730 –> 01:04:04,390
organization has been around a very long

1702
01:04:02,109 –> 01:04:06,099
time they fight a lot of that stuff and

1703
01:04:04,390 –> 01:04:07,359
you know advocated more common sense of

1704
01:04:06,099 –> 01:04:08,290
personal I hate the word common and

1705
01:04:07,359 –> 01:04:09,849
that’s what it’s like yesterday I was

1706
01:04:08,290 –> 01:04:12,790
thinking of how to do my elevator speech

1707
01:04:09,849 –> 01:04:14,440
right like the term common sense and the

1708
01:04:12,790 –> 01:04:16,119
world of politics has been co-opted to

1709
01:04:14,440 –> 01:04:17,680
me just means stupid stuff yes it’s like

1710
01:04:16,119 –> 01:04:19,480
common sense causes gun control or

1711
01:04:17,680 –> 01:04:21,010
common sense than that so it’s like I I

1712
01:04:19,480 –> 01:04:23,140
gotta find it I got to find another way

1713
01:04:21,010 –> 01:04:24,790
of phrasing this but they do it’s a very

1714
01:04:23,140 –> 01:04:26,829
common-sense approach to transportation

1715
01:04:24,790 –> 01:04:28,859
policy and motorists rights so

1716
01:04:26,829 –> 01:04:34,589
definitely get involved in that I think

1717
01:04:28,859 –> 01:04:38,380
you know motorist org yeah okay cool

1718
01:04:34,589 –> 01:04:40,450
so for everybody else thank you for

1719
01:04:38,380 –> 01:04:42,400
watching please like please share if you

1720
01:04:40,450 –> 01:04:46,690
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1724
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1725
01:04:54,940 –> 01:04:59,410
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1726
01:04:57,430 –> 01:05:02,319
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1738
01:05:29,500 –> 01:05:32,410
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1739
01:05:30,940 –> 01:05:35,230
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1745
01:05:47,530 –> 01:05:55,980
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1746
01:05:51,220 –> 01:06:00,100
shalom as spike says Jason Lyon with the

1747
01:05:55,980 –> 01:06:01,480
Shabbat episode of mr. America the

1748
01:06:00,100 –> 01:06:04,810
bearded truth and were taken two days

1749
01:06:01,480 –> 01:06:07,300
off and Jason Lyon returns next Monday

1750
01:06:04,810 –> 01:06:09,030
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1751
01:06:07,300 –> 01:06:11,740
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1752
01:06:09,030 –> 01:06:14,100
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1753
01:06:11,740 –> 01:06:16,990
Tuesday will be his very first

1754
01:06:14,100 –> 01:06:20,200
co-hosting of muddied waters of freedom

1755
01:06:16,990 –> 01:06:22,660
I am out of town and then my fellow

1756
01:06:20,200 –> 01:06:25,690
Americans next week on Wednesday with

1757
01:06:22,660 –> 01:06:27,250
Spike Cohen and there’s no episode of

1758
01:06:25,690 –> 01:06:32,860
the writer’s block next week because I

1759
01:06:27,250 –> 01:06:34,540
will be in Cleveland never been to

1760
01:06:32,860 –> 01:06:36,610
Cleveland not looking forward to it go

1761
01:06:34,540 –> 01:06:37,750
to go to go to Cedar Point and so

1762
01:06:36,610 –> 01:06:39,430
anything I think it’s outside of

1763
01:06:37,750 –> 01:06:43,060
Cleveland yeah I think I’m not really

1764
01:06:39,430 –> 01:06:46,030
sure what that is in ten dusky Sandusky

1765
01:06:43,060 –> 01:06:48,220
yeah I’m going up there to see Red Sox

1766
01:06:46,030 –> 01:06:55,480
game with my dad and we’re gonna go hit

1767
01:06:48,220 –> 01:06:59,370
the Hall of Fame Cleveland I think they

1768
01:06:55,480 –> 01:07:03,760
have the Browns and they used to have

1769
01:06:59,370 –> 01:07:06,040
LeBron James that’s but tune into all of

1770
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that next week I will not be here I’ll

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be back the week after that with Aaron

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Nakamoto we are finally getting that

1773
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show going on either that way this is

1774
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just gonna turn into a Jimmy Kimmel Matt

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Damon thing where I just always

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apologized to her but thank you all so

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much for tuning in have yourselves a

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wonderful

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weekend and be sure to catch Jason ship

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Jason’s show tomorrow

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[Music]

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[Music]

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I’ll try to use your body as a life raft

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cuz if there’s room enough for one there

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must be enough for two solutions

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[Music]

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senator

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[Music]

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hiding-places broadcast the evening news

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I will be

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[Music]

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[Applause]

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[Music]

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[Applause]

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[Music]

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don’t bother swimming out to save me I

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will only track it don’t bother sweater

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to save me I will only drag that one

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myself it’s a standard for the legs

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[Music]

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fuck