The Wrighter’s Block Episode 40 – Kim Ruff Gets Wrighter’s Block

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I’ll try to use your body as a life raft

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for one there must be

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hiding-places broadcast of the evening

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news hour

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don’t bother swimming had to save me I’m

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alone

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don’t drop a sweater to save me I will

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only drag myself it’s a standard fooling

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Sagar

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to convince all that world I don’t need

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anybody’s

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all right put down your pens put down

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your pencils step away from the keyboard

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and settle in for this week’s episode of

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the writer’s block

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first and foremost allow me to thank Don

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and Sally Wright for giving birth to me

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I know I disappoint you on a daily basis

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but without you none of this would be

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possible

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also let me thank the narcissist

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cookbook for allowing me to use his

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music at the beginning in the end of

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every episode of the writer’s block I

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said I realized shortly before this show

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started that this is my actually this is

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my one year anniversary of doing the

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writer’s block so to everybody out there

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who has continued to follow Alyssa and

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Cher and all of that great stuff thank

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you because without you I would probably

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still do this but you know you actually

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give me some sense give me some sense of

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hope for the future today I’m very happy

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to bring on my guest she is a graduate

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from the very very prestigious Arizona

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State University she is currently

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running for the libertarian nomination

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for president ladies and gentlemen the

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fantastic and wonderful miss mrs. miss

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miss miss misses one of those camera

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really just glowing you make me sound

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like a god you know we’re all God like

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God is on all of us I think that was

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something I learned a long time ago when

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I still read the Bible you know we’re

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all made in His image

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thank you so much for taking the time to

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come on my show I do appreciate it well

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thank you for having me it’s my pleasure

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no absolutely so you went to the very

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prestigious Arizona State University and

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did you did you grow up in Arizona yes

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Harvard was my safety Arizonian I was

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born and raised in Feeney

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and I had actually wanted to go to the

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University of Oregon in Eugene okay but

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my folks wanted me to be close to home

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so I went to Arizona State University

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and I earned my baccalaureate says you

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pointed out in communication political

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science yes before that I went to

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Scottsdale Community College and I got

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my associates and applied science and

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motion picture television with the

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overarching goal of being a film critic

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Wow I at one point had the overarching

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goal of being a film writer and I

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yeah people hate watching movies with me

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people hate watching movies with me

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they’re like I’m like this like this is

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like my controversial thing that I say

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all the time

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Titanic is like the worst movie ever

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made that movies terrible I know I know

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it’s like right up there with the

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notebook on being the most manipulative

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movie ever write the notebook okay I’ll

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give it to you it wasn’t supposed to be

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a great movie it was just supposed to be

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a cheesy Nicholas Sparks movie like it

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wasn’t supposed to be good Titanic

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everyone oh it’s the greatest movie ever

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made Leonardo DiCaprio Kate Winslet no

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that movie is awful it’s so bad and so

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stupid so much I totally understand that

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came out when I was in high school and

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so I gone and seen it in the theater and

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then I went home and being a typical

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high school girl I sobbed for the love

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of Jack and Rose I know as I got older

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and more jaded I was like that is the

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most emotionally manipulative movie ever

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and what could she make room on that

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door right hey you know what guy that

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I’ve been with forever that everybody

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seems to hate but I don’t really know

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why cuz I never figured out why Billy

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Zane was a bad guy in that movie he’s

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pissed off that his girlfriend slash

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fiance was cheating on him with this

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broke dude Oh fair enough

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right yeah yeah I’ve been with you for

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years or whatever it’s been you met this

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guy a week ago and this is the guy

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that’s gonna be your love forever all

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right sure and then you’re just gonna

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drop 98 million dollars down at the

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bottom of the ocean at the end I’m glad

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she passed away

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stupid harder the ocean diamond god I

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hate that movie and what makes it worse

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is it beat out such great movies for

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Best Picture it beat out as good as it

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gets and Good Will Hunting

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and both of those deserved it so much

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more than Titanic is amazing reference

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it to this day because it just had such

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great dialogue and scenes in it it was

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such a good movie such a good movie like

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there’s not it’s less and less now but

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there used to be a time where any time I

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would say how about them apples

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everybody knew what I was talking about

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right nowadays not so much is everybody

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got to know Elliott Smith after that

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like the whole soundtrack was done by

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him alright guy that mattes man

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yeah he’s the saddest man that ever

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lived somehow commits suicide by

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stabbing himself twice in the chest Rock

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yeah Elliott Smith people are like you

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don’t seem like somebody who’s like

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depressed all the time I like I got a

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good cover don’t I but yeah love me some

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Elliott Smith got miss misery was such a

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great song so I know you like earlier

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you and I were talking and I you thought

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it was funny because I kind of got to

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the Libertarian Party in the backwards

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way where I had already done all of the

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drugs and everything and then I became a

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libertarian after I stopped so how is it

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that you got into being a libertarian

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was it I heard there were free drugs

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yeah no the way that I came into the

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libertarian party was I

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my folks are they would classify

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themselves as Reagan Republicans and

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Arizona not so much in Phoenix anymore

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because we’ve had such an influx of

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liberalism from California but we have

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historically been very much a pull

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yourself up by the bootstraps type of

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state which is really an outlying

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Arizona and Goldwater was a

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representative in the Senate for a very

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very very long time right so we sort of

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already come from that you know

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personal responsibility self ownership

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mentality here so I was primed to lean

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more toward the GOP because I only

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thought there were two parties and I was

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that for quite some time but then during

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Bush during his tenure I was so

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disgusted by the fact that they gave up

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on the Powell doctrine talking about how

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we need to only be defensive when it

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comes to attacks not offensive when it

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comes to our military I was so

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frustrated by how that whole thing

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played out in the advent of 9/11 and the

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fact that we used it as justification to

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go into Iraq and you know eating right

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now are still in Afghanistan and that

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makes it the longest war even longer

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still than Vietnam so I defected from

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that neoconservative shift and I was

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complaining about the fact that the

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Republican Party is more fixated on

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aggressing against other nations in

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global domination as well as putting

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their mores and morals on the rest of

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society and the other aspect of kind of

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my transition wasn’t just getting

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frustrated with the ongoing conflict but

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I worked for for a decade a LGBT

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magazine I was a film writer who wrote

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under a nom de plume

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so character maybe someday I’ll tell you

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who he was he’s interesting anyway in

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the community and knowing people in the

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community getting to know them being

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friends with them and recognizing I just

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didn’t understand why you would put okay

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you’re not gay you’re not into it that’s

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fine but why would you tell other people

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how to live their lives so those twin

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things kind of shifted me and then a

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buddy of mine said have you looked at

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the libertarian party I said no what’s

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that so I looked up their platform

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online and I read it east by piece and

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I’m like holy crap these are my people

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like everything I ever already thought

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is perfectly articulated so and that’s

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when I switched right yeah so I kind of

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went when I first started learning more

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about the Libertarian Party I learned

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about it in the way that many of us do

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where I took an online political quiz

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and they said I was a libertarian and I

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was talking with my dad who is a regular

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Republican now a trump Republican

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you know he’s let’s blow them all up

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kind of guy love him to death

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great guy but he was he was sitting

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behind me because we both worked at the

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same office and I was just like huh I

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just took this political quiz he goes

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what are you and I says it says I’m a

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libertarian yeah that makes sense

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and I said why you good it’s a

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Republican that smokes weed okay and so

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I was like well I want to learn more

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about Republicans that smoke weed and so

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I started looking more people I like

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these guys

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whatever we can get that arrest off my

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record and we should totally do that

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and so I started looking more into it

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and I at this point I already started

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kind of like shifting away from the

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Christian conservative that I had been

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and if you want to be gay I don’t care

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until you do your thing like hey I don’t

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do it in my bedroom please

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like a single bad yeah I sleep in a twin

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they just like yeah go ahead and do that

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and then I started getting more involved

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and I started being more like you know

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why should we be illegal if alcohols not

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and then that turned into why should

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cocaine be illegal if alcohols not and

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then I should heroin or meth or anything

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else and then as the Iraq and

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Afghanistan wars continue going on I I

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got more and more on the we shouldn’t be

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there we shouldn’t we went over there

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for no reason at the beginning and now

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we don’t have any exit strategy and it’s

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just costing us lives and 20 22 veterans

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a day are committing suicide and you’re

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more worried about what’s going on over

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there instead of trying to help them

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here and you’re not doing anything about

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it so as all of this was going on I just

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continued shifting further and further

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away until one day I was just arguing

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arguing with my dad against going to war

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against some nation that we hadn’t

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started a war with yet and I was like

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what happened when did this go on oh I

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guess I’m officially a libertarian now

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not quite a libertarian until you start

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arguing with other

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that’s true that that only took like six

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more weeks after that and then like six

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months later I became an anarchist or

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something I don’t know really a

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libertarian now so when did you decide

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that you were gonna take the big leap

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and go for the most powerful office in

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the land yes if it’s a spy yeah right so

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kind of started as one of those things

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where from time to time it’s activists

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will quit online about like if I were

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president I would do XYZ right and I was

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talking to John my running me on social

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media and we had a couple people say if

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you ran for president I would work my

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ass off for you and so he and I were

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like whatever and we talked about it and

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I’m like you know this isn’t a bad idea

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actually

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because in 2016 as somebody who’s worked

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in intra-party politics and been on the

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ground and dealt with all that

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behind-the-scenes stuff I we just sort

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of wait for somebody else to come in and

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step up to that role whether it’s you

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know a former Republican or someone

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within our party or maybe someone who’s

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tangentially associated to you we’re

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always waiting for this person who’s got

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name recognition and sizable warchest

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and a bunch of people already like crime

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to go march to the Capitol with them

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which of course none of that exists

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right and they do a poor job

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representing us they misrepresent what

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we believe we end up spending an

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extraordinary amount of time saying we

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wait wait no that’s not true that’s not

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what it means to be a libertarian so we

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we house the best way to explain this I

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feel I felt like in 2016 the welds in

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particular Johnson to a lesser extent

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ended up losing a moment that could have

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been incredible for us because we had to

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truly despicable people who were the

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frontrunners of both the parties and

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this was a sea change they weren’t going

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up against incumbent this was something

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fresh that was a ample opportunity for

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them to

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strike while the iron was hot and say no

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we’re anti-war we’re pro body autonomy

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we believe in these things we want

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criminal justice reform we want to

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pardon nonviolent you know victimless

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criminals this is what we stand for and

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they didn’t they squandered the moment a

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little bit of press they had they spent

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either making embarrassing gaffes which

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to be fair Johnson it was 5:00 in the

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morning and it was gotcha moment for the

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media right so what is the Leppa moment

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going for Clinton because it would much

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rather see Clinton and Trump in office

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yeah all of our down ballot candidates

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all of our activists instead of building

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on that groundwork they ended up having

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to reinvent the wheel yet again when you

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know as a libertarian we have to start

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way earlier work that much harder and do

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most of it by ourselves right and to

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lose that moment to lose the momentum

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it’s it’s an extraordinary setback and I

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didn’t want to wait anymore I said I’ll

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do it myself

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and I was hoping maybe other people

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would be like yeah beats me and I think

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it’s me okay

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so I’ve worked I worked on a couple of

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libertarian campaigns here in Florida I

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worked on the Attorney General campaign

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where bill will suffer ran and you know

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I was out there I was getting the

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signatures I would we were doing it we

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were doing it all and we did it on a

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shoestring budget we pulled in just over

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5% of the vote which was great and I

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also yeah and then I also worked on the

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Lucas over be for Congress campaign here

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and when he ran in the special election

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he didn’t get that much of the vote but

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it was that was the david jolly verse

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Alex Sink

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and verse over B and there were so much

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money being thrown into it are $26,000

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or whatever it was that we had wasn’t

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gonna be able to do anything but then in

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the re-election that was that following

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that the special was in March I think

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and then the re-election was in November

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so Lucas just kept campaigning and it

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was just jolly verse him and he ended up

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getting 26% of the I believe that’s

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really good yeah it was it was it was a

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good time during that period and then

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2016 rolled around Johnson and weld and

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I left the party shortly after that yeah

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yeah it’s tough

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where’s I I was talking to somebody just

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the other day about this I had somebody

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call me and he had joined about two

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years ago and now he’s getting to that

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point that we all kind of get to as

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activists where after having you know we

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come in really excited like I I just

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discovered you you’re my tribe come on

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tribe let’s work together and you know

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crush the state and I don’t care who

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says it or does it or who gets credit

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I’ll throw money I’ll throw energy into

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it I’ll make it happen I’ll build up the

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infrastructure and then you have of

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course all the old guard or just

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naysayers who are happy to complain from

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their comfortable seat going you know

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that’s not good enough or you’re just

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trying to take power and it just

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destroys it and so you get to that point

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where you’re like why am I doing this

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I’m not getting paid I’m not you know

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nothing’s like I’m just doing this

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because it’s important and I care and

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all I get is a sales or doing this so

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they head up point of discouragement and

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my advice to him and to everybody else

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is and go around them like stop waiting

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for permission stop trying to work with

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certain actors or individuals or

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agencies go around them you care about

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it find your niche and do that like the

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fact that you have your podcast is a

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really good example you settled into

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something that was way more authentic

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and honest and you don’t have to ask for

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permission to do it that’s right that’s

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why it does the everybody’s like

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worrying you gonna run for office so I

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said never and they asked why I said cuz

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on my podcast I can say whatever I want

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and if I’m wrong I just go oops I was

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wrong

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if I run for office and I do something

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and it’s wrong that’s a whole different

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game oh yeah especially as a libertarian

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just because you have to be you have to

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keep it correct all the time yeah cuz

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think though maybe 30 seconds of media

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they’ll give you yeah you don’t want to

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be the person who’d be like taxations

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bad like you really want to give good

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strong soundbite so right you don’t ever

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want to have that Gary Johnson moment

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where you

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literally biting his tongue on the air

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and he’s there and you don’t want that

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and you only get such a small amount of

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time so being able to do this and giving

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other people who play a way to learn

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about politics and a non-threatening and

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because I like to think that this is a

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non-threatening environment I’m not

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really sure how other people view it but

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in a non-threatening environment where

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they can learn about it and see what

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being a libertarian being an anarchist

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being an anarcho-capitalist whatever

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whatever that is whatever they define me

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as because I don’t really define myself

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as any of it

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spike Cohen I kind of want to do that

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but whatever they wanted to find it as

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they can learn about it and see that we

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aren’t like just out there off the wall

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crazy hoping for Mad Max type moments

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although right I’m not totally against a

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Mad Max Thunderdome kind of actually be

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okay with you know Oh welcome to the

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Thunderdome kind of election for

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president I think that’d just be fun it

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would be pretty honest or what rot out I

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mean God 2016 it was you know in um not

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Alice in Wonderland now I’m having a

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brain fart it was a movie that won the

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Best Picture in 1939 um first movie that

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went into Technicolor thank you you

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think that horrible when you have step

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of the tongue and you can’t remember

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something like Wizard of Oz yeah I mean

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I go through that pretty often on this

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show you know that that thing in Spike

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Lee evidence and I’m like yeah that you

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know that song with the guitar riff that

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one right with the really famous guitar

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riff right mm-hmm

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I’m just gonna nod with you here not

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classical got it yeah and The Wizard of

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Oz when they’re like this is actually

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the wizard who’s you know it’s not this

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big scary thing with all the smoke it’s

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actually the guy behind the curtain

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right 2016 I didn’t even like didn’t

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even put up a curtain no like oh no

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we’re all terrible

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like at least Thunderdome would be

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authentic like everybody gets a stick

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whoever wins survives get to be king for

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a day before the peasants tear you apart

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if they if they had done Thunderdome in

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2016 Hillary Clinton woulda shot Trump

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in the back of the head walked out and

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said he committed suicide what did he

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know what a drum no apparently not to

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turn his back on you so I was going to

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let’s talk a little bit about your

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platform because I’m not gonna lie like

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I love your platform it’s great yeah it

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is good I edited it too so and there

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wasn’t any mistakes oh good for you

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I love going to and I do this a lot

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especially with a libertarian sites I’ll

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go to their websites and take a look at

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their platform and I’ll read it and I

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like to count the number of typos and I

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didn’t find one on yours so

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congratulations you’re like the first

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yeah usually I find so many it makes me

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laugh do you remember do you remember

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Derrick Michael Reed’s website yes 2016

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I do wasn’t Bob the Builder on it as

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well so yeah no congratulations on me

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not finding a typo I was very happy

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about that that made me genuinely like

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like you even more as a candidate yeah

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so foreign policy your foreign policy is

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very libertarian I mean basically let’s

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not bomb other people and I I do like

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that but so one of the things I is a

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question that is asked to me often as

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somebody who doesn’t believe in

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intervention is there an instance like

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since you

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would be Madam President is there an

520
00:24:31,820 –> 00:24:36,230
instance in which you would find it

521
00:24:34,490 –> 00:24:40,210
acceptable to utilize the military

522
00:24:36,230 –> 00:24:42,410
against a foreign nation or organization

523
00:24:40,210 –> 00:24:45,410
only in self-defense only in

524
00:24:42,410 –> 00:24:46,760
self-defense so right and that doesn’t

525
00:24:45,410 –> 00:24:49,040
and that actually doesn’t even include

526
00:24:46,760 –> 00:24:51,380
like because of my foreign policy

527
00:24:49,040 –> 00:24:53,990
beliefs and the fact that I am a non

528
00:24:51,380 –> 00:24:56,480
interventionist and an anarchist that

529
00:24:53,990 –> 00:24:59,390
doesn’t mean you know you were in an

530
00:24:56,480 –> 00:25:00,260
area of the world that I consider of my

531
00:24:59,390 –> 00:25:03,290
interest

532
00:25:00,260 –> 00:25:05,900
that’s not attacking my interest I’m

533
00:25:03,290 –> 00:25:09,620
talking about physically coming into our

534
00:25:05,900 –> 00:25:12,680
nation attacking our people attacking

535
00:25:09,620 –> 00:25:15,170
our property but even to that end I

536
00:25:12,680 –> 00:25:18,320
would say it’s up to the individuals who

537
00:25:15,170 –> 00:25:21,650
were harmed not necessarily for me to

538
00:25:18,320 –> 00:25:23,420
say as president okay guys all of you

539
00:25:21,650 –> 00:25:26,360
are gonna get involved in this conflict

540
00:25:23,420 –> 00:25:28,190
because some things went down in the

541
00:25:26,360 –> 00:25:30,410
ass-end of California if that makes

542
00:25:28,190 –> 00:25:32,300
sense like I really feel that it’s up to

543
00:25:30,410 –> 00:25:34,160
everyone has a right to self-defense and

544
00:25:32,300 –> 00:25:36,650
to some extent you can make the argument

545
00:25:34,160 –> 00:25:38,660
that by extension maybe the country

546
00:25:36,650 –> 00:25:42,800
could also engage in it but that would

547
00:25:38,660 –> 00:25:44,300
require coercion and force so I would

548
00:25:42,800 –> 00:25:46,970
rather say that those who are directly

549
00:25:44,300 –> 00:25:48,920
victimized have that decision to me and

550
00:25:46,970 –> 00:25:50,600
then if other people want to assist by

551
00:25:48,920 –> 00:25:56,470
proxy they have to do so voluntarily

552
00:25:50,600 –> 00:25:59,210
right so let’s just let’s say if another

553
00:25:56,470 –> 00:26:04,030
9/11 event types sort of thing happened

554
00:25:59,210 –> 00:26:06,050
what would what would you recommend I

555
00:26:04,030 –> 00:26:09,350
love that I’d actually thought about

556
00:26:06,050 –> 00:26:20,360
that a lot of Mike what I do finish the

557
00:26:09,350 –> 00:26:22,610
kids story I think in the immediate

558
00:26:20,360 –> 00:26:23,930
after effect you know because you have

559
00:26:22,610 –> 00:26:27,530
to bear in mind that at the time that

560
00:26:23,930 –> 00:26:31,010
all this stuff happened presuming that

561
00:26:27,530 –> 00:26:33,980
the official narrative holds true there

562
00:26:31,010 –> 00:26:35,900
was no awareness whatsoever of what

563
00:26:33,980 –> 00:26:37,880
exactly was going on so just as we

564
00:26:35,900 –> 00:26:40,520
catching little bits and pieces on our

565
00:26:37,880 –> 00:26:42,520
TV or the radio we’re trying to put this

566
00:26:40,520 –> 00:26:44,770
disparate pieces of evidence together

567
00:26:42,520 –> 00:26:47,080
and understand what was happening so to

568
00:26:44,770 –> 00:26:50,470
presumably were the people in White

569
00:26:47,080 –> 00:26:52,510
House administration so assuming that to

570
00:26:50,470 –> 00:26:54,670
be the case saying that we are all

571
00:26:52,510 –> 00:26:57,250
caught unawares I think the first thing

572
00:26:54,670 –> 00:26:58,750
would be doing an assessment of red

573
00:26:57,250 –> 00:27:01,000
obviously you want to have complete

574
00:26:58,750 –> 00:27:03,460
situational awareness like what what is

575
00:27:01,000 –> 00:27:06,790
happening why is it happening what other

576
00:27:03,460 –> 00:27:08,740
possible threats exist how do we stop

577
00:27:06,790 –> 00:27:10,870
them and the most immediate thing would

578
00:27:08,740 –> 00:27:12,340
obviously be grounding airplane travel

579
00:27:10,870 –> 00:27:14,050
you would have to do that in the

580
00:27:12,340 –> 00:27:16,870
immediate after effect until you had a

581
00:27:14,050 –> 00:27:18,010
good handle on what the situation is as

582
00:27:16,870 –> 00:27:19,720
much as I would like to be able to say

583
00:27:18,010 –> 00:27:21,220
like you can freely travel like you’d

584
00:27:19,720 –> 00:27:23,320
have to put the kibosh on it for at

585
00:27:21,220 –> 00:27:24,460
least a certain period of time until you

586
00:27:23,320 –> 00:27:26,260
understood what you were dealing with

587
00:27:24,460 –> 00:27:27,940
right and then once you ascertained

588
00:27:26,260 –> 00:27:30,160
who’s who and where they’re at and what

589
00:27:27,940 –> 00:27:31,660
these actors and agents are doing then

590
00:27:30,160 –> 00:27:33,010
you have to figure out well obviously

591
00:27:31,660 –> 00:27:35,290
the same thing you do in criminal

592
00:27:33,010 –> 00:27:37,870
justice presumably which is understand

593
00:27:35,290 –> 00:27:41,110
what their motivation was why were they

594
00:27:37,870 –> 00:27:44,710
doing this and there was we found out

595
00:27:41,110 –> 00:27:46,930
relatively quick relatively quickly who

596
00:27:44,710 –> 00:27:49,600
the actors and agents involved were and

597
00:27:46,930 –> 00:27:51,880
the impetus behind it and all of that is

598
00:27:49,600 –> 00:27:53,920
blowback from our foreign policy

599
00:27:51,880 –> 00:27:56,290
approach all of that comes from the fact

600
00:27:53,920 –> 00:27:58,150
that we have for decades because of the

601
00:27:56,290 –> 00:28:01,360
threat of the Soviet Union and we wanted

602
00:27:58,150 –> 00:28:03,280
to stop them from spreading communism we

603
00:28:01,360 –> 00:28:05,920
trifled in the Middle East we trifled in

604
00:28:03,280 –> 00:28:07,420
Southeast Asia we were in other nations

605
00:28:05,920 –> 00:28:09,070
you know Eastern Europe is a good

606
00:28:07,420 –> 00:28:11,200
example as well we have been throughout

607
00:28:09,070 –> 00:28:13,420
those trying to effectively keep the

608
00:28:11,200 –> 00:28:17,140
Soviet Union and communism contained and

609
00:28:13,420 –> 00:28:19,900
in so doing we have created a lot of bad

610
00:28:17,140 –> 00:28:22,270
blood on an international level because

611
00:28:19,900 –> 00:28:23,830
nobody likes to have their land occupied

612
00:28:22,270 –> 00:28:25,870
nobody likes to be told how to live

613
00:28:23,830 –> 00:28:28,180
their life nobody wants to have their

614
00:28:25,870 –> 00:28:31,030
rights curtailed but you’re clearly not

615
00:28:28,180 –> 00:28:32,980
by a foreign government so knowing that

616
00:28:31,030 –> 00:28:34,990
then I think I would have said in the

617
00:28:32,980 –> 00:28:36,220
immediate aftermath after we understood

618
00:28:34,990 –> 00:28:39,490
and realized that there was no

619
00:28:36,220 –> 00:28:41,830
additional risk coming that we would

620
00:28:39,490 –> 00:28:46,630
cease our foreign policy approach will

621
00:28:41,830 –> 00:28:48,580
stop as opposed to double down and do

622
00:28:46,630 –> 00:28:51,130
everything that we’ve been doing

623
00:28:48,580 –> 00:28:54,310
previously that’s the most illogical

624
00:28:51,130 –> 00:28:56,260
thing with this if all they’re asking is

625
00:28:54,310 –> 00:28:58,180
for us to stop aggressing

626
00:28:56,260 –> 00:29:01,210
against other nations stop meddling in

627
00:28:58,180 –> 00:29:06,580
their affairs as all we have to do to be

628
00:29:01,210 –> 00:29:09,940
left alone then stop doing it it’s just

629
00:29:06,580 –> 00:29:10,990
absurd right and I would agree I

630
00:29:09,940 –> 00:29:14,710
definitely agree with that

631
00:29:10,990 –> 00:29:18,430
I mean back in back in 2001 I was still

632
00:29:14,710 –> 00:29:19,900
very conservative so I was like they

633
00:29:18,430 –> 00:29:22,690
attacked us they didn’t have any reason

634
00:29:19,900 –> 00:29:25,270
to attack us and it wasn’t until I

635
00:29:22,690 –> 00:29:26,580
looked into more things going well yeah

636
00:29:25,270 –> 00:29:30,970
we’ve been doing that to them for

637
00:29:26,580 –> 00:29:33,430
decades at this point so that you know

638
00:29:30,970 –> 00:29:35,080
Ron Ron Paul had a lot to do with me

639
00:29:33,430 –> 00:29:37,450
kind of learning about that and learning

640
00:29:35,080 –> 00:29:39,640
about blowback and that was when I first

641
00:29:37,450 –> 00:29:43,270
started seeing and trying to argue that

642
00:29:39,640 –> 00:29:45,430
with neo-cons it’s just impossible it’s

643
00:29:43,270 –> 00:29:48,460
no no what we’re doing is the Lord’s

644
00:29:45,430 –> 00:29:52,060
work and what they’re doing is that

645
00:29:48,460 –> 00:29:59,950
other guys work that other day that’s

646
00:29:52,060 –> 00:30:02,020
probably the same person I’m not getting

647
00:29:59,950 –> 00:30:03,610
into I tried doing theology hour on the

648
00:30:02,020 –> 00:30:10,180
last show and it didn’t go well for me

649
00:30:03,610 –> 00:30:14,560
so I also know that you are not a fan

650
00:30:10,180 –> 00:30:17,110
neither amount of financially assisting

651
00:30:14,560 –> 00:30:23,290
other nations yeah is there any instance

652
00:30:17,110 –> 00:30:26,470
in which you would be okay with no no I

653
00:30:23,290 –> 00:30:28,420
really well because when you think about

654
00:30:26,470 –> 00:30:30,460
when we typically talk about financial

655
00:30:28,420 –> 00:30:31,990
aid and when we try to sell it to the

656
00:30:30,460 –> 00:30:34,060
American public the powers that be

657
00:30:31,990 –> 00:30:37,210
usually couch it in terms of this

658
00:30:34,060 –> 00:30:39,550
country is you know destitute and these

659
00:30:37,210 –> 00:30:41,920
people are starving and so we’re going

660
00:30:39,550 –> 00:30:43,780
to collectively take your resources and

661
00:30:41,920 –> 00:30:45,610
send them over there but in countries

662
00:30:43,780 –> 00:30:48,070
that are war-torn or where there’s that

663
00:30:45,610 –> 00:30:50,410
level of disparity economically when

664
00:30:48,070 –> 00:30:52,300
there are folks that are so segregated

665
00:30:50,410 –> 00:30:55,750
from those that are empower and those

666
00:30:52,300 –> 00:30:57,640
that are living on the ground it usually

667
00:30:55,750 –> 00:31:00,670
is because they have such a stranglehold

668
00:30:57,640 –> 00:31:04,210
on resources so any financial aid we

669
00:31:00,670 –> 00:31:06,970
give any material aid we give typically

670
00:31:04,210 –> 00:31:08,650
only goes to those that are already in

671
00:31:06,970 –> 00:31:10,160
power and have a stranglehold on it

672
00:31:08,650 –> 00:31:12,110
doesn’t go to the people that work

673
00:31:10,160 –> 00:31:13,790
trying to assist we’ve had plenty of

674
00:31:12,110 –> 00:31:16,820
instances where we’ve sent medical

675
00:31:13,790 –> 00:31:18,680
supplies or food or clothing or any

676
00:31:16,820 –> 00:31:20,570
other sort of aid to other countries and

677
00:31:18,680 –> 00:31:22,880
it never makes it to the people we’re

678
00:31:20,570 –> 00:31:24,830
trying to help if you truly want to

679
00:31:22,880 –> 00:31:26,450
assist people in a foreign country then

680
00:31:24,830 –> 00:31:29,060
it would behoove you to research

681
00:31:26,450 –> 00:31:30,980
charities that actually have a really

682
00:31:29,060 –> 00:31:33,890
good rate of return on donations to

683
00:31:30,980 –> 00:31:35,660
contributions and are involved in those

684
00:31:33,890 –> 00:31:37,400
countries because there are people all

685
00:31:35,660 –> 00:31:40,130
over the world who have charitable

686
00:31:37,400 –> 00:31:42,080
groups that do assist people directly

687
00:31:40,130 –> 00:31:44,060
rather than going government to

688
00:31:42,080 –> 00:31:46,400
government there’s always going to be I

689
00:31:44,060 –> 00:31:48,380
mean at the very best example there’s

690
00:31:46,400 –> 00:31:50,300
going to be a loss you know you’re

691
00:31:48,380 –> 00:31:51,560
getting you know 70 cents on the dollar

692
00:31:50,300 –> 00:31:53,330
because you’re paying for some

693
00:31:51,560 –> 00:31:55,370
bureaucrat to redistribute it and then

694
00:31:53,330 –> 00:31:58,190
the people are maybe getting 30 cents on

695
00:31:55,370 –> 00:31:59,780
that 70 cents right so it’s just cut out

696
00:31:58,190 –> 00:32:01,550
the middleman go straight to a charity

697
00:31:59,780 –> 00:32:02,990
and allowed them to do it it’s much more

698
00:32:01,550 –> 00:32:04,580
directed and it’ll go to the people that

699
00:32:02,990 –> 00:32:06,950
you want to assist yeah I’ve got a

700
00:32:04,580 –> 00:32:12,020
friend who has recently been getting

701
00:32:06,950 –> 00:32:13,130
into the foreign the the foreign flavor

702
00:32:12,020 –> 00:32:15,080
of the week I guess would be the best

703
00:32:13,130 –> 00:32:17,360
way to put it we need to help this

704
00:32:15,080 –> 00:32:18,740
country and she said what should we do

705
00:32:17,360 –> 00:32:20,780
and I said well you find a charity

706
00:32:18,740 –> 00:32:22,970
that’s helping that country and you

707
00:32:20,780 –> 00:32:25,310
donate your time and/or money to that

708
00:32:22,970 –> 00:32:26,600
charity and she goes oh well I can’t do

709
00:32:25,310 –> 00:32:29,090
that but what should like we should do

710
00:32:26,600 –> 00:32:31,270
as a countries exactly what I just said

711
00:32:29,090 –> 00:32:36,140
like as a country we should not be

712
00:32:31,270 –> 00:32:37,940
shipping money or troops or anything

713
00:32:36,140 –> 00:32:40,190
else over there we should be helping

714
00:32:37,940 –> 00:32:41,480
them out voluntarily because there’s

715
00:32:40,190 –> 00:32:43,280
gonna be people that don’t want to do

716
00:32:41,480 –> 00:32:46,310
this and we should not be forcing them

717
00:32:43,280 –> 00:32:48,380
to write I agree I think a lot of this

718
00:32:46,310 –> 00:32:50,270
this sort of mentality where we look at

719
00:32:48,380 –> 00:32:52,790
government as is here for all of our

720
00:32:50,270 –> 00:32:55,730
existential crises comes a lot from the

721
00:32:52,790 –> 00:32:57,470
erosion of community cuz we’ve gotten so

722
00:32:55,730 –> 00:32:59,420
divorced from it and it is sort of a

723
00:32:57,470 –> 00:33:01,280
systemic attack by the state on

724
00:32:59,420 –> 00:33:02,900
community whether it’s going against the

725
00:33:01,280 –> 00:33:04,820
church or whether it’s going against the

726
00:33:02,900 –> 00:33:06,410
family or whatever other sort of units

727
00:33:04,820 –> 00:33:08,690
that erosion of community and

728
00:33:06,410 –> 00:33:10,760
neighborhoods has lent itself where we

729
00:33:08,690 –> 00:33:12,500
stopped thinking about well let me just

730
00:33:10,760 –> 00:33:14,030
go next door and talk to this person and

731
00:33:12,500 –> 00:33:16,070
work with them to do something healthy

732
00:33:14,030 –> 00:33:17,360
and instead well I’m gonna vote for a

733
00:33:16,070 –> 00:33:20,060
representative who’s going to legislate

734
00:33:17,360 –> 00:33:22,540
this so that I can feel better about the

735
00:33:20,060 –> 00:33:23,810
things that bother me but it’s such a

736
00:33:22,540 –> 00:33:26,570
circuitous

737
00:33:23,810 –> 00:33:29,870
an ineffectual way at best of doing

738
00:33:26,570 –> 00:33:32,120
things and it’s of course aiding and

739
00:33:29,870 –> 00:33:33,770
abetting tyranny so the best thing you

740
00:33:32,120 –> 00:33:36,710
can do ever is just like you said if

741
00:33:33,770 –> 00:33:39,380
it’s truly important to you reach out to

742
00:33:36,710 –> 00:33:41,720
other people find charities and if there

743
00:33:39,380 –> 00:33:43,790
is none start one you have the

744
00:33:41,720 –> 00:33:45,350
capability or so don’t wait for

745
00:33:43,790 –> 00:33:46,780
permission and don’t use the government

746
00:33:45,350 –> 00:33:48,980
as a means of accomplishing those goals

747
00:33:46,780 –> 00:33:50,810
right and then she was like well I don’t

748
00:33:48,980 –> 00:33:52,190
really have the time I don’t really have

749
00:33:50,810 –> 00:33:54,710
the time to volunteer and I don’t make a

750
00:33:52,190 –> 00:33:56,930
lot of money and I said then it can’t be

751
00:33:54,710 –> 00:33:59,120
that important like that’s you have to

752
00:33:56,930 –> 00:34:00,710
worry about you because and I am like

753
00:33:59,120 –> 00:34:03,860
she’s young

754
00:34:00,710 –> 00:34:05,450
24 I think she’s young and I’m like I

755
00:34:03,860 –> 00:34:07,010
get it you’re going to school you’ve got

756
00:34:05,450 –> 00:34:08,990
a job you got to pay rent you got your

757
00:34:07,010 –> 00:34:11,600
bills I know that your time is very

758
00:34:08,990 –> 00:34:13,700
limited talk to other people about it

759
00:34:11,600 –> 00:34:15,590
see if they’re willing to do it try to

760
00:34:13,700 –> 00:34:17,060
spread the word that way but you can’t

761
00:34:15,590 –> 00:34:18,830
ask the government to do this because

762
00:34:17,060 –> 00:34:21,710
now you’re forcing other people who want

763
00:34:18,830 –> 00:34:24,560
nothing to do with it to have to do deal

764
00:34:21,710 –> 00:34:26,990
with it and hey spike Cohen said no

765
00:34:24,560 –> 00:34:30,290
dammit what should we be doing with not

766
00:34:26,990 –> 00:34:31,520
my money and that’s how so many people

767
00:34:30,290 –> 00:34:32,150
look at it they’re like well no that’s

768
00:34:31,520 –> 00:34:34,850
my money

769
00:34:32,150 –> 00:34:37,910
I need that to do these things and in

770
00:34:34,850 –> 00:34:40,160
which case that shows where that shows

771
00:34:37,910 –> 00:34:42,980
the order of importance in your

772
00:34:40,160 –> 00:34:44,750
priorities and that’s fine have your

773
00:34:42,980 –> 00:34:46,220
order of importance but if it’s

774
00:34:44,750 –> 00:34:47,680
something that’s important to you you

775
00:34:46,220 –> 00:34:50,930
need to make the time in order to work

776
00:34:47,680 –> 00:34:53,030
the addendum to it and I’m sure you’ve

777
00:34:50,930 –> 00:34:55,160
experienced this yourself as an activist

778
00:34:53,030 –> 00:34:58,340
in the party and in the larger Liberty

779
00:34:55,160 –> 00:34:59,840
movement is you know we when you start

780
00:34:58,340 –> 00:35:01,490
to become cognizant of the world around

781
00:34:59,840 –> 00:35:05,210
you in the sense that you are aware of

782
00:35:01,490 –> 00:35:06,830
how your how your actions or our actions

783
00:35:05,210 –> 00:35:08,810
of the nation impact people on an

784
00:35:06,830 –> 00:35:11,180
international scale and you recognize

785
00:35:08,810 –> 00:35:13,250
the wider ramifications of legislation

786
00:35:11,180 –> 00:35:15,620
and how it’s going to not just affect us

787
00:35:13,250 –> 00:35:18,680
in the media but in the long run there

788
00:35:15,620 –> 00:35:21,200
is sort of this desperation and feeling

789
00:35:18,680 –> 00:35:23,570
of utility like because you recognize

790
00:35:21,200 –> 00:35:26,360
how bad it is and how much of it needs

791
00:35:23,570 –> 00:35:28,010
to be changed positively so you’re like

792
00:35:26,360 –> 00:35:30,770
I don’t even know where to start you

793
00:35:28,010 –> 00:35:32,330
know where where do i I want to make it

794
00:35:30,770 –> 00:35:34,070
better but I don’t know where to start

795
00:35:32,330 –> 00:35:35,390
and so typically the best thing you need

796
00:35:34,070 –> 00:35:38,900
to do and that this is an

797
00:35:35,390 –> 00:35:41,630
I say to people is you need to focus

798
00:35:38,900 –> 00:35:44,569
here first I mean it’s like that oxygen

799
00:35:41,630 –> 00:35:47,180
mask metaphor you’re no good to anybody

800
00:35:44,569 –> 00:35:48,680
else unless you take care of yourself so

801
00:35:47,180 –> 00:35:50,690
take care of yourself first and then

802
00:35:48,680 –> 00:35:52,760
extend it out to your family your

803
00:35:50,690 –> 00:35:55,220
community your immediate neighborhood

804
00:35:52,760 –> 00:35:58,160
create these little pockets of good you

805
00:35:55,220 –> 00:36:00,559
can’t change everything but you can make

806
00:35:58,160 –> 00:36:03,260
something wonderful in your world and

807
00:36:00,559 –> 00:36:04,970
that will emanate out as you inspire and

808
00:36:03,260 –> 00:36:08,510
affect and influence positively other

809
00:36:04,970 –> 00:36:17,510
people but that sounds so very Marianne

810
00:36:08,510 –> 00:36:19,160
Williamson your dream okay making a

811
00:36:17,510 –> 00:36:21,950
dream board you get a nice little wish

812
00:36:19,160 –> 00:36:39,829
board dress it up however you want you

813
00:36:21,950 –> 00:36:40,789
put it out there and now she’s running

814
00:36:39,829 –> 00:36:43,970
for president

815
00:36:40,789 –> 00:36:47,210
did she say something like if they just

816
00:36:43,970 –> 00:36:49,430
had a giant golden egg and they all just

817
00:36:47,210 –> 00:36:52,009
felt their feelings around it I’m like

818
00:36:49,430 –> 00:36:55,069
what you know what would happen they

819
00:36:52,009 –> 00:36:57,980
kill each other for the gold yeah that

820
00:36:55,069 –> 00:36:59,930
would not work Marianne but please be in

821
00:36:57,980 –> 00:37:03,170
every debate I hope that she continues

822
00:36:59,930 –> 00:37:05,779
getting donations to be in every single

823
00:37:03,170 –> 00:37:08,150
debate because it is the most

824
00:37:05,779 –> 00:37:12,099
entertaining thing I’ve ever seen I know

825
00:37:08,150 –> 00:37:12,099
I’m like your chakras need to be real

826
00:37:12,730 –> 00:37:18,380
I’m upset that Florida is not a open

827
00:37:16,190 –> 00:37:23,539
primary state because I would vote for

828
00:37:18,380 –> 00:37:27,009
her just to keep really just to keep her

829
00:37:23,539 –> 00:37:33,829
going I would vote for her she’s like

830
00:37:27,009 –> 00:37:38,390
2020s Harambee nothing else counts go

831
00:37:33,829 –> 00:37:40,549
with Mary Ann Williams Shane Sweeney

832
00:37:38,390 –> 00:37:43,400
said his dream ballet is rough verse

833
00:37:40,549 –> 00:37:48,740
weld verse Williamson which I think he

834
00:37:43,400 –> 00:37:49,370
would win totally yeah III don’t even

835
00:37:48,740 –> 00:37:55,430
think that would be a

836
00:37:49,370 –> 00:37:56,660
contest everybody good now this is God

837
00:37:55,430 –> 00:38:00,490
it wouldn’t even matter what I said

838
00:37:56,660 –> 00:38:00,490
they’d be like you’re not a sadist

839
00:38:04,600 –> 00:38:08,180
earlier where you’re like thank you for

840
00:38:06,650 –> 00:38:18,080
giving me life I know i disappoint you

841
00:38:08,180 –> 00:38:19,550
daily so one of the big things that the

842
00:38:18,080 –> 00:38:24,140
Democrats have been talking about in

843
00:38:19,550 –> 00:38:26,420
this cycle has been immigration so I

844
00:38:24,140 –> 00:38:34,090
know that you are not a fan of the wall

845
00:38:26,420 –> 00:38:34,090
I mean I like these these are great

846
00:38:34,960 –> 00:38:40,030
which is funny because this is the only

847
00:38:36,920 –> 00:38:43,460
one that has it all the others are bare

848
00:38:40,030 –> 00:38:45,950
but so I know you’re not a fan of Donald

849
00:38:43,460 –> 00:38:48,170
Trump’s wall of the of that border wall

850
00:38:45,950 –> 00:38:52,940
what what would kind of be your

851
00:38:48,170 –> 00:38:54,440
immigration policy well mine you know

852
00:38:52,940 –> 00:38:57,340
it’s funny it’s such an interesting and

853
00:38:54,440 –> 00:38:59,750
complex issue in fact every single issue

854
00:38:57,340 –> 00:39:02,960
really has a bunch of different aspects

855
00:38:59,750 –> 00:39:05,510
that tie into it so forgive me for my

856
00:39:02,960 –> 00:39:06,800
long-winded answer but there’s so many

857
00:39:05,510 –> 00:39:08,360
different things you have to address

858
00:39:06,800 –> 00:39:11,750
when you talk to the public writ large

859
00:39:08,360 –> 00:39:13,520
which is the question of what do you do

860
00:39:11,750 –> 00:39:15,140
with welfare and we’re not just talking

861
00:39:13,520 –> 00:39:17,210
about things like whether or not you can

862
00:39:15,140 –> 00:39:19,040
get immediate government benefits like

863
00:39:17,210 –> 00:39:21,410
that you know are they gonna get an EBT

864
00:39:19,040 –> 00:39:23,000
card but we’re talking about access to

865
00:39:21,410 –> 00:39:25,370
public schools public school is an

866
00:39:23,000 –> 00:39:27,530
example welfare access to other shared

867
00:39:25,370 –> 00:39:29,780
resources such as being able to go to a

868
00:39:27,530 –> 00:39:31,730
hospital and having other people assume

869
00:39:29,780 –> 00:39:34,640
responsibility for paying for your visit

870
00:39:31,730 –> 00:39:37,490
using their insurance so there are

871
00:39:34,640 –> 00:39:39,020
different concerns with welfare for most

872
00:39:37,490 –> 00:39:40,730
American citizens and that’s one of the

873
00:39:39,020 –> 00:39:42,740
main arguments that they typically lob

874
00:39:40,730 –> 00:39:44,570
against you comes across then the

875
00:39:42,740 –> 00:39:46,610
secondary aspect are things like because

876
00:39:44,570 –> 00:39:49,130
I’m in a border state with Mexico and

877
00:39:46,610 –> 00:39:51,440
because there is a huge glut of cartels

878
00:39:49,130 –> 00:39:53,420
near the border there’s the assumption

879
00:39:51,440 –> 00:39:56,750
that typically the people who are going

880
00:39:53,420 –> 00:39:59,960
to immigrate here are criminals and drug

881
00:39:56,750 –> 00:40:02,540
users and carrying illegal firearms and

882
00:39:59,960 –> 00:40:03,670
they’re going to bring diseases like

883
00:40:02,540 –> 00:40:05,230
crazy diseases

884
00:40:03,670 –> 00:40:08,140
we haven’t seen since the 1400s

885
00:40:05,230 –> 00:40:14,589
apparently ones that we don’t have

886
00:40:08,140 –> 00:40:17,230
vaccinations for playing anymore

887
00:40:14,589 –> 00:40:18,819
so you have to touch all these issues

888
00:40:17,230 –> 00:40:21,579
and then of course discuss the issue a

889
00:40:18,819 –> 00:40:24,490
property right so here is my answer to

890
00:40:21,579 –> 00:40:27,640
that as libertarians we were against all

891
00:40:24,490 –> 00:40:29,230
forms of welfare not just benefits

892
00:40:27,640 –> 00:40:30,940
immediate government benefits or whether

893
00:40:29,230 –> 00:40:32,559
or not you can get WIC or EBT or

894
00:40:30,940 –> 00:40:35,290
anything else like that but we’re also

895
00:40:32,559 –> 00:40:36,309
talking about you know public education

896
00:40:35,290 –> 00:40:38,619
we’re against it we wanted to be

897
00:40:36,309 –> 00:40:41,530
privatized we want to have you know

898
00:40:38,619 –> 00:40:44,109
people pay exactly what things cost not

899
00:40:41,530 –> 00:40:46,359
be forced into paying other extra

900
00:40:44,109 –> 00:40:48,609
ordinary fees in order to support other

901
00:40:46,359 –> 00:40:50,290
people’s habits or lifestyles whatever

902
00:40:48,609 –> 00:40:51,910
we’re against welfare we don’t think

903
00:40:50,290 –> 00:40:54,730
that we should redistribute wealth area

904
00:40:51,910 –> 00:40:57,040
so there is that aspect to it the second

905
00:40:54,730 –> 00:40:59,020
aspect of it is as libertarians we are

906
00:40:57,040 –> 00:41:01,240
for the legalization of narcotics which

907
00:40:59,020 –> 00:41:02,890
would totally kill the cartels because

908
00:41:01,240 –> 00:41:05,650
there would no longer be a black market

909
00:41:02,890 –> 00:41:08,049
so if you want to eliminate that issue

910
00:41:05,650 –> 00:41:10,720
and the concern for crime then you need

911
00:41:08,049 –> 00:41:12,430
to end the war on drugs full stop the

912
00:41:10,720 –> 00:41:14,020
third thing is libertarians we support

913
00:41:12,430 –> 00:41:15,339
our Second Amendment rights we believe

914
00:41:14,020 –> 00:41:17,380
firmly in the right to self-defense

915
00:41:15,339 –> 00:41:19,690
which means that people should have at

916
00:41:17,380 –> 00:41:21,400
their access and disposal the ability to

917
00:41:19,690 –> 00:41:23,530
acquire whatever means they need to

918
00:41:21,400 –> 00:41:25,059
defend themselves including but not

919
00:41:23,530 –> 00:41:28,450
limited to firearms

920
00:41:25,059 –> 00:41:29,829
so this assault on firearms needs to end

921
00:41:28,450 –> 00:41:32,049
which would stop the issue of

922
00:41:29,829 –> 00:41:33,940
trafficking of firearms so I have to ask

923
00:41:32,049 –> 00:41:35,859
a question I haven’t listed for later

924
00:41:33,940 –> 00:41:38,260
but since you brought up firearms in the

925
00:41:35,859 –> 00:41:39,160
Second Amendment recreational nukes yes

926
00:41:38,260 –> 00:41:41,559
okay cool

927
00:41:39,160 –> 00:41:43,359
just that’s that was the question it was

928
00:41:41,559 –> 00:41:47,980
recreational plutonium but you know

929
00:41:43,359 –> 00:41:49,540
recreational nukes let’s I know that

930
00:41:47,980 –> 00:41:51,700
they were doing an Iranian mining up in

931
00:41:49,540 –> 00:41:53,680
the Grand Canyon area for a while but um

932
00:41:51,700 –> 00:41:55,180
I think Pluto Neum is much more rare I

933
00:41:53,680 –> 00:41:57,880
think they only had a sufficient amount

934
00:41:55,180 –> 00:41:59,559
to be able to either make fat man or

935
00:41:57,880 –> 00:42:01,240
little boy one of the two that were used

936
00:41:59,559 –> 00:42:03,339
during the bombing of Hiroshima and

937
00:42:01,240 –> 00:42:06,329
Nagasaki but the other one they have a

938
00:42:03,339 –> 00:42:09,180
little bit more of what was uranium okay

939
00:42:06,329 –> 00:42:11,559
rhenium 235 or something what my

940
00:42:09,180 –> 00:42:13,900
extensive knowledge on plutonium is it

941
00:42:11,559 –> 00:42:14,220
makes a DeLorean go 88 miles an hour and

942
00:42:13,900 –> 00:42:18,240
you try

943
00:42:14,220 –> 00:42:20,700
through time that’s that’s my extensive

944
00:42:18,240 –> 00:42:33,510
knowledge on plutonium then I am so for

945
00:42:20,700 –> 00:42:35,460
recreational for everybody I support

946
00:42:33,510 –> 00:42:40,410
your right to acquire recreational

947
00:42:35,460 –> 00:42:42,690
plutonium should you desire well yeah

948
00:42:40,410 –> 00:42:44,910
the recreational nuclear weapons was the

949
00:42:42,690 –> 00:42:47,550
big was where I was going with that

950
00:42:44,910 –> 00:42:49,650
because that’s one that I I know a lot

951
00:42:47,550 –> 00:42:51,600
of hardcore libertarians who even on

952
00:42:49,650 –> 00:42:55,590
that when they’ll back off and they’ll

953
00:42:51,600 –> 00:42:57,120
say funny I mean I know that people have

954
00:42:55,590 –> 00:42:58,950
a lot of concern with nuclear weapons

955
00:42:57,120 –> 00:43:01,740
but the reality is is that we are the

956
00:42:58,950 –> 00:43:04,080
only nation that has ever used them no

957
00:43:01,740 –> 00:43:06,810
other nation has ever detonated or

958
00:43:04,080 –> 00:43:08,940
deployed nuclear weapons to harm another

959
00:43:06,810 –> 00:43:11,880
nation they may have done so in their

960
00:43:08,940 –> 00:43:15,900
backyard and and she imploded a mountain

961
00:43:11,880 –> 00:43:18,060
North Korea I’m looking at you they have

962
00:43:15,900 –> 00:43:20,910
not ever used nuclear weapons to harm

963
00:43:18,060 –> 00:43:22,320
other nations only we have done that so

964
00:43:20,910 –> 00:43:24,090
it’s funny that we have this sort of

965
00:43:22,320 –> 00:43:25,590
overarching fear about like well if they

966
00:43:24,090 –> 00:43:27,510
acquire it they’re gonna do terrible

967
00:43:25,590 –> 00:43:29,580
things well that’s like people who

968
00:43:27,510 –> 00:43:31,530
project qualities onto others because

969
00:43:29,580 –> 00:43:32,880
it’s a neat to them like saying like I’m

970
00:43:31,530 –> 00:43:35,960
concerned about you cheating on me

971
00:43:32,880 –> 00:43:39,270
because I’m a person who cheat like

972
00:43:35,960 –> 00:43:41,610
we’re the one who needs to be stopped in

973
00:43:39,270 –> 00:43:43,170
that capacity we need to make a

974
00:43:41,610 –> 00:43:44,730
good-faith effort to get rid of our

975
00:43:43,170 –> 00:43:46,320
nuclear weapons and show the rest of the

976
00:43:44,730 –> 00:43:47,760
world that we’re not a threat and that

977
00:43:46,320 –> 00:43:51,570
we don’t need to keep ramping up

978
00:43:47,760 –> 00:43:55,350
armaments in order to somehow keep the

979
00:43:51,570 –> 00:43:58,140
peace we should just use nuclear energy

980
00:43:55,350 –> 00:44:00,330
and focus it that way because that’s a

981
00:43:58,140 –> 00:44:03,060
way more cost-effective instead of using

982
00:44:00,330 –> 00:44:04,710
it to make armaments I know I agree

983
00:44:03,060 –> 00:44:07,500
totally and what I’ve found is most of

984
00:44:04,710 –> 00:44:09,180
the people who really who say no we can

985
00:44:07,500 –> 00:44:12,740
have nukes but nobody else should have

986
00:44:09,180 –> 00:44:16,170
nukes are the same people who argue the

987
00:44:12,740 –> 00:44:18,600
gun like and I agree with them here is

988
00:44:16,170 –> 00:44:20,010
that you know yet if more people are

989
00:44:18,600 –> 00:44:23,850
armed you’re going to have less crime

990
00:44:20,010 –> 00:44:26,860
where there there’s arguing the exact

991
00:44:23,850 –> 00:44:30,100
opposite when it comes on a global scale

992
00:44:26,860 –> 00:44:32,290
as opposed to just hearing home hey

993
00:44:30,100 –> 00:44:33,520
everybody’s if you don’t know which

994
00:44:32,290 –> 00:44:35,940
houses are armed you’re gonna have less

995
00:44:33,520 –> 00:44:38,290
people breaking in which is true because

996
00:44:35,940 –> 00:44:40,420
you don’t want to get shot and I

997
00:44:38,290 –> 00:44:41,650
understand that it probably doesn’t feel

998
00:44:40,420 –> 00:44:47,380
good that’s one thing that I’ve never

999
00:44:41,650 –> 00:44:52,480
experienced thank God I heard it stings

1000
00:44:47,380 –> 00:44:54,460
I heard it’s worse than a paper cut ends

1001
00:44:52,480 –> 00:44:56,110
where the paper cutting that’s that’s a

1002
00:44:54,460 –> 00:45:03,100
that’s actually pretty valid I’ve had

1003
00:44:56,110 –> 00:45:04,720
some bad ones where they did that paper

1004
00:45:03,100 –> 00:45:07,540
cuts in the webbing of their toes oh

1005
00:45:04,720 –> 00:45:09,070
you’re like hey did you that I think

1006
00:45:07,540 –> 00:45:11,070
that may have been in the movie because

1007
00:45:09,070 –> 00:45:14,530
I remember watching that and going ah

1008
00:45:11,070 –> 00:45:19,720
that looks so uncomfortable

1009
00:45:14,530 –> 00:45:22,960
that’s awful why would you do that so in

1010
00:45:19,720 –> 00:45:25,330
one of kind of going along with the drug

1011
00:45:22,960 –> 00:45:27,610
war thing as well as immigration you

1012
00:45:25,330 –> 00:45:31,300
said in an article titled we oppose

1013
00:45:27,610 –> 00:45:33,340
border walls that wiretap wiretap and

1014
00:45:31,300 –> 00:45:35,380
paid informants are more effective tools

1015
00:45:33,340 –> 00:45:39,280
for stopping the workings of drug

1016
00:45:35,380 –> 00:45:43,420
smuggling organizations libertarians

1017
00:45:39,280 –> 00:45:45,040
tend to dislike the wiretapping I didn’t

1018
00:45:43,420 –> 00:45:48,490
write that article that’s Mike running

1019
00:45:45,040 –> 00:45:52,360
mates article oh so you’re running my

1020
00:45:48,490 –> 00:45:56,080
road I thought you wrote those yeah no

1021
00:45:52,360 –> 00:45:59,560
that wasn’t me okay so so you’re not

1022
00:45:56,080 –> 00:46:02,320
about the wiretapping no I’m not okay

1023
00:45:59,560 –> 00:46:04,540
now yeah that because I because I was on

1024
00:46:02,320 –> 00:46:06,100
your I was on your website and I came

1025
00:46:04,540 –> 00:46:07,540
across that article and then at the

1026
00:46:06,100 –> 00:46:12,430
bottom it said you were named so I

1027
00:46:07,540 –> 00:46:14,170
assumed that you had so yeah because I

1028
00:46:12,430 –> 00:46:15,490
was curious on that I was like yeah I

1029
00:46:14,170 –> 00:46:19,270
was like so what would the criteria for

1030
00:46:15,490 –> 00:46:23,950
wiretapping be because that was I

1031
00:46:19,270 –> 00:46:25,720
actually was very curious on that so

1032
00:46:23,950 –> 00:46:28,570
okay good to know that’s not your

1033
00:46:25,720 –> 00:46:30,580
article totally interesting now okay so

1034
00:46:28,570 –> 00:46:33,940
so read me that section again cuz I want

1035
00:46:30,580 –> 00:46:36,340
to hear it it says that wiretap and paid

1036
00:46:33,940 –> 00:46:38,290
informants are more effective tools for

1037
00:46:36,340 –> 00:46:39,340
stopping the workings of drug smuggling

1038
00:46:38,290 –> 00:46:43,150
organizations

1039
00:46:39,340 –> 00:46:45,580
okay so I was curious on what the

1040
00:46:43,150 –> 00:46:47,950
criteria for wiretapping would be if it

1041
00:46:45,580 –> 00:46:51,850
would be the blanket wiretapping that we

1042
00:46:47,950 –> 00:46:53,380
are seeing now probably not no I don’t

1043
00:46:51,850 –> 00:46:54,760
surmise John would ever advocate for

1044
00:46:53,380 –> 00:46:59,260
warrantless wares happen I would imagine

1045
00:46:54,760 –> 00:47:00,160
that either I was sorry yeah I was just

1046
00:46:59,260 –> 00:47:02,920
gonna say I was just looking for

1047
00:47:00,160 –> 00:47:07,930
clarification on it because it’s on the

1048
00:47:02,920 –> 00:47:09,550
website so that was my main man I cannot

1049
00:47:07,930 –> 00:47:11,260
speak for him necessarily but I’m gonna

1050
00:47:09,550 –> 00:47:13,810
take a shot in the dark because this is

1051
00:47:11,260 –> 00:47:16,420
at least based on that statement this is

1052
00:47:13,810 –> 00:47:19,560
probably what I would say would be semi

1053
00:47:16,420 –> 00:47:23,680
acceptable criteria which is if there is

1054
00:47:19,560 –> 00:47:25,300
clear evidence of wrongdoing by an

1055
00:47:23,680 –> 00:47:27,190
individual you know like you are

1056
00:47:25,300 –> 00:47:29,980
cognizant of there is clear evidence

1057
00:47:27,190 –> 00:47:32,410
this would hold up in an indictment this

1058
00:47:29,980 –> 00:47:34,570
would go to court and you could have

1059
00:47:32,410 –> 00:47:37,360
this person found guilty beyond a

1060
00:47:34,570 –> 00:47:39,970
reasonable doubt then you can get a

1061
00:47:37,360 –> 00:47:41,890
warrant from a judge in order to do

1062
00:47:39,970 –> 00:47:45,730
wiretapping to gain additional evidence

1063
00:47:41,890 –> 00:47:49,510
and or become aware of other people

1064
00:47:45,730 –> 00:47:51,820
affiliated with their wrongdoing but the

1065
00:47:49,510 –> 00:47:55,030
attendance of that is if we ended the

1066
00:47:51,820 –> 00:47:58,420
war on drugs we wouldn’t need to do that

1067
00:47:55,030 –> 00:48:00,220
at all anyway right I don’t know that

1068
00:47:58,420 –> 00:48:01,510
I’m comfortable with that statement in

1069
00:48:00,220 –> 00:48:03,580
the first place because it’s like

1070
00:48:01,510 –> 00:48:05,590
assuming the war on drugs are still

1071
00:48:03,580 –> 00:48:06,790
going on let’s continue to do dastardly

1072
00:48:05,590 –> 00:48:10,680
things and it’s like well if they’re

1073
00:48:06,790 –> 00:48:14,170
producing distributing using narcotics

1074
00:48:10,680 –> 00:48:17,680
none of that none of that harms anyone

1075
00:48:14,170 –> 00:48:19,030
therefore it’s not a crime it shouldn’t

1076
00:48:17,680 –> 00:48:20,500
be a crime just because there’s a law on

1077
00:48:19,030 –> 00:48:21,940
the books it says it’s a crime doesn’t

1078
00:48:20,500 –> 00:48:24,910
mean that it’s an ethical law and

1079
00:48:21,940 –> 00:48:29,080
therefore now it’s a crime so yeah

1080
00:48:24,910 –> 00:48:32,280
that’s my my argument okay so we’ve got

1081
00:48:29,080 –> 00:48:35,200
a question from my very dear friend

1082
00:48:32,280 –> 00:48:36,880
Sarah and reg and she said do

1083
00:48:35,200 –> 00:48:40,540
libertarians believe in any specific

1084
00:48:36,880 –> 00:48:41,800
kind of firearm restrictions which that

1085
00:48:40,540 –> 00:48:44,830
means that she’s probably not that close

1086
00:48:41,800 –> 00:48:49,780
of a friend now I’m realizing because no

1087
00:48:44,830 –> 00:48:51,579
I don’t know we don’t know we don’t

1088
00:48:49,780 –> 00:48:53,319
believe in firearm restrictions right

1089
00:48:51,579 –> 00:48:55,180
we everything comes down to a matter of

1090
00:48:53,319 –> 00:48:57,579
personal responsibility which is that is

1091
00:48:55,180 –> 00:48:59,499
incumbent upon the individual to know

1092
00:48:57,579 –> 00:49:01,239
their limitations and people that are in

1093
00:48:59,499 –> 00:49:02,920
their media family or community to be

1094
00:49:01,239 –> 00:49:04,569
cognizant of those limitations and to

1095
00:49:02,920 –> 00:49:07,269
help guide them to make good decisions

1096
00:49:04,569 –> 00:49:09,880
but using a mechanism of force to

1097
00:49:07,269 –> 00:49:12,009
dictate based on some specious grounds

1098
00:49:09,880 –> 00:49:13,749
or a flimsy flimsy definition because

1099
00:49:12,009 –> 00:49:15,430
it’s always a shifting of goalposts when

1100
00:49:13,749 –> 00:49:17,440
it comes to government right it might be

1101
00:49:15,430 –> 00:49:19,079
something that seems rational now but

1102
00:49:17,440 –> 00:49:21,369
tomorrow it’s going to become

1103
00:49:19,079 –> 00:49:24,339
progressively worse as they strengthen

1104
00:49:21,369 –> 00:49:25,479
and tighten control that is not

1105
00:49:24,339 –> 00:49:27,099
something that we’re of a really

1106
00:49:25,479 –> 00:49:29,130
comfortable way self defense is

1107
00:49:27,099 –> 00:49:31,479
incredibly important most people

1108
00:49:29,130 –> 00:49:33,160
typically regulate themselves I

1109
00:49:31,479 –> 00:49:35,920
personally own two firearms

1110
00:49:33,160 –> 00:49:37,569
one is the 22 caliber handgun that’s for

1111
00:49:35,920 –> 00:49:39,969
a practice because it’s inexpensive to

1112
00:49:37,569 –> 00:49:42,549
buy 22 rounds and then the other one is

1113
00:49:39,969 –> 00:49:44,259
a 45 caliber handgun and that’s because

1114
00:49:42,549 –> 00:49:45,249
it’s a man stopper so if anybody ever

1115
00:49:44,259 –> 00:49:48,219
tried to attack me

1116
00:49:45,249 –> 00:49:51,039
I could engine stop that’s all I need

1117
00:49:48,219 –> 00:49:52,630
now right and because of personal

1118
00:49:51,039 –> 00:49:55,299
responsibility that’s a big reason I

1119
00:49:52,630 –> 00:49:57,670
don’t own firearms you can’t trust

1120
00:49:55,299 –> 00:49:59,199
yourself I can’t ride another there

1121
00:49:57,670 –> 00:50:00,910
there have been times in my life where

1122
00:49:59,199 –> 00:50:02,440
it’s gotten real dark and I just figured

1123
00:50:00,910 –> 00:50:05,469
it’d be better if I just never had one

1124
00:50:02,440 –> 00:50:07,299
around yeah I mean that’s just the way

1125
00:50:05,469 –> 00:50:08,739
that I’ve always looked at it I don’t

1126
00:50:07,299 –> 00:50:10,539
think anybody else shouldn’t be allowed

1127
00:50:08,739 –> 00:50:13,749
to have it I personally made the choice

1128
00:50:10,539 –> 00:50:16,630
for myself that I shouldn’t own right

1129
00:50:13,749 –> 00:50:21,940
now I will beat somebody with a baseball

1130
00:50:16,630 –> 00:50:24,099
bat should I if I have to but but that’s

1131
00:50:21,940 –> 00:50:25,569
just you know that’s just the way it is

1132
00:50:24,099 –> 00:50:26,979
but it’s because of my belief and

1133
00:50:25,569 –> 00:50:28,779
personal responsibility it’s like I

1134
00:50:26,979 –> 00:50:31,119
wasn’t personally responsible to handle

1135
00:50:28,779 –> 00:50:34,869
alcohol but even though I’ve tried for a

1136
00:50:31,119 –> 00:50:36,969
very long time and drugs and anything

1137
00:50:34,869 –> 00:50:38,709
else like I learned these things and

1138
00:50:36,969 –> 00:50:41,289
personal responsibility caused me to

1139
00:50:38,709 –> 00:50:44,229
stop using all of that not own firearm

1140
00:50:41,289 –> 00:50:45,160
and I think everybody else has the right

1141
00:50:44,229 –> 00:50:47,650
to do those things

1142
00:50:45,160 –> 00:50:50,319
knock yourself out that’s on you right

1143
00:50:47,650 –> 00:50:53,469
that’s not my responsibility so that’s

1144
00:50:50,319 –> 00:50:55,630
the same way I feel on firearms yeah I

1145
00:50:53,469 –> 00:50:57,190
agree completely I think that at least

1146
00:50:55,630 –> 00:50:59,589
based on my own experience and

1147
00:50:57,190 –> 00:51:01,930
observations of other people it’s not

1148
00:50:59,589 –> 00:51:03,989
government policy that discourages us

1149
00:51:01,930 –> 00:51:05,440
from doing things that are unhealthier

1150
00:51:03,989 –> 00:51:07,599
unhelpful to us

1151
00:51:05,440 –> 00:51:09,849
selves it’s usually experience or

1152
00:51:07,599 –> 00:51:11,800
observation of others and then of course

1153
00:51:09,849 –> 00:51:13,869
having people in your world in your

1154
00:51:11,800 –> 00:51:15,819
corner who are truly advocates for you

1155
00:51:13,869 –> 00:51:17,910
looking out for you and helping guide

1156
00:51:15,819 –> 00:51:20,290
you I mean all of us have made mistakes

1157
00:51:17,910 –> 00:51:21,400
all of us are human and we’re

1158
00:51:20,290 –> 00:51:22,720
beautifully imperfect

1159
00:51:21,400 –> 00:51:24,609
but we’ve learned from those mistakes

1160
00:51:22,720 –> 00:51:26,740
because we’ve had people who’ve pulled

1161
00:51:24,609 –> 00:51:28,000
for us and encouraged us to help carry

1162
00:51:26,740 –> 00:51:31,119
us at times where we couldn’t carry

1163
00:51:28,000 –> 00:51:33,280
ourselves we are better for that and

1164
00:51:31,119 –> 00:51:35,079
that didn’t require government policy

1165
00:51:33,280 –> 00:51:38,290
that didn’t require us to pay a

1166
00:51:35,079 –> 00:51:40,750
bureaucrat to tell us what we need to do

1167
00:51:38,290 –> 00:51:43,569
with our lives and that’s why so many

1168
00:51:40,750 –> 00:51:45,130
people are libertarians this concept of

1169
00:51:43,569 –> 00:51:46,599
you know this is something that if you

1170
00:51:45,130 –> 00:51:48,069
forgive me for a second for going off on

1171
00:51:46,599 –> 00:51:50,530
a tangent this is something that always

1172
00:51:48,069 –> 00:51:51,760
aggravates me is that and this is no

1173
00:51:50,530 –> 00:51:54,339
offense to your friend this is just

1174
00:51:51,760 –> 00:51:55,990
something that her question inspired a

1175
00:51:54,339 –> 00:51:57,579
lot of people when you talk to them

1176
00:51:55,990 –> 00:52:00,910
about various different things you say

1177
00:51:57,579 –> 00:52:02,470
okay if this wasn’t a law would you go

1178
00:52:00,910 –> 00:52:03,880
out tomorrow and murder somebody and

1179
00:52:02,470 –> 00:52:04,480
they’re like oh no I wouldn’t murder

1180
00:52:03,880 –> 00:52:07,060
anybody

1181
00:52:04,480 –> 00:52:08,829
right but my neighbor you know they’re

1182
00:52:07,060 –> 00:52:12,130
always concerned about somebody over

1183
00:52:08,829 –> 00:52:13,510
there some other undefined other whether

1184
00:52:12,130 –> 00:52:16,329
it’s their immediate neighbor or

1185
00:52:13,510 –> 00:52:18,579
somebody in their world is going to do a

1186
00:52:16,329 –> 00:52:20,740
horrible crime if they don’t have these

1187
00:52:18,579 –> 00:52:23,230
laws in place but if you talk to that

1188
00:52:20,740 –> 00:52:25,270
neighbor or that person in their world

1189
00:52:23,230 –> 00:52:27,819
and ask them the exact same question if

1190
00:52:25,270 –> 00:52:30,220
government laws didn’t exist would you

1191
00:52:27,819 –> 00:52:31,720
go and somehow lack morality and make

1192
00:52:30,220 –> 00:52:33,670
these bad decisions that harm other

1193
00:52:31,720 –> 00:52:37,599
people they’re like no I would never do

1194
00:52:33,670 –> 00:52:39,339
that we make laws because we’re afraid

1195
00:52:37,599 –> 00:52:41,349
of what other people are going to do

1196
00:52:39,339 –> 00:52:43,270
right not because we don’t trust

1197
00:52:41,349 –> 00:52:45,430
ourselves not because we need a

1198
00:52:43,270 –> 00:52:47,170
tyrannical straitjacket to keep us in

1199
00:52:45,430 –> 00:52:49,869
line we’re good people

1200
00:52:47,170 –> 00:52:52,690
we’ll do the right thing but somebody

1201
00:52:49,869 –> 00:52:54,579
else who I haven’t met and I don’t know

1202
00:52:52,690 –> 00:52:56,440
and I’m presuming to speak for they

1203
00:52:54,579 –> 00:52:59,349
can’t be trusted and that’s why we need

1204
00:52:56,440 –> 00:53:01,060
a law and that’s sort of nonsense is

1205
00:52:59,349 –> 00:53:02,530
exactly why we’re in the situation we’re

1206
00:53:01,060 –> 00:53:05,619
in that’s why we have people who are

1207
00:53:02,530 –> 00:53:07,359
serving life sentences for non crimes

1208
00:53:05,619 –> 00:53:09,190
because we’re worried about something

1209
00:53:07,359 –> 00:53:11,260
somebody else might do maybe I don’t

1210
00:53:09,190 –> 00:53:12,339
know right and actually that’s the

1211
00:53:11,260 –> 00:53:16,630
perfect segue because I was gonna bring

1212
00:53:12,339 –> 00:53:18,730
up a criminal justice reform so that

1213
00:53:16,630 –> 00:53:20,740
that worked out really well

1214
00:53:18,730 –> 00:53:25,060
criminal justice for some that I care

1215
00:53:20,740 –> 00:53:26,710
deeply deeply about we’ve got hundreds

1216
00:53:25,060 –> 00:53:28,540
of thousands to millions of people in

1217
00:53:26,710 –> 00:53:30,910
jail for things that they should not be

1218
00:53:28,540 –> 00:53:32,320
in jail for victimless crimes you’ve got

1219
00:53:30,910 –> 00:53:35,050
people in on drug charge you get people

1220
00:53:32,320 –> 00:53:37,810
in sex workers you’ve got all of these

1221
00:53:35,050 –> 00:53:39,520
things that are going on that should not

1222
00:53:37,810 –> 00:53:41,350
be crimes and I’m not talking like the

1223
00:53:39,520 –> 00:53:57,100
Jeffrey Epstein’s of the world I’m

1224
00:53:41,350 –> 00:53:59,050
talking about 34th Street Molly I know

1225
00:53:57,100 –> 00:54:04,510
she’s just trying to make a buck you

1226
00:53:59,050 –> 00:54:06,550
know she’s got skills I hear but you you

1227
00:54:04,510 –> 00:54:09,370
have these issues where these were

1228
00:54:06,550 –> 00:54:12,630
people who have done in my eyes nothing

1229
00:54:09,370 –> 00:54:17,170
wrong are rotting away in prison and

1230
00:54:12,630 –> 00:54:18,400
other people are getting off I know that

1231
00:54:17,170 –> 00:54:21,790
criminal justice reform is one of the

1232
00:54:18,400 –> 00:54:25,470
main platforms that you have what what

1233
00:54:21,790 –> 00:54:27,670
is your what would your plan be well

1234
00:54:25,470 –> 00:54:30,070
I’ve talked about this a couple of times

1235
00:54:27,670 –> 00:54:31,990
but to reiterate because I’m running for

1236
00:54:30,070 –> 00:54:34,660
president and because that only really

1237
00:54:31,990 –> 00:54:36,340
meaningfully impacts federal and the

1238
00:54:34,660 –> 00:54:38,920
executive branch what I’m primarily

1239
00:54:36,340 –> 00:54:41,800
focusing on is doing a massive overhaul

1240
00:54:38,920 –> 00:54:43,090
of federal criminal justice system so

1241
00:54:41,800 –> 00:54:45,430
that would mean one of the things that I

1242
00:54:43,090 –> 00:54:48,010
really really want to do is to be able

1243
00:54:45,430 –> 00:54:50,890
to get into office and do a major audit

1244
00:54:48,010 –> 00:54:52,720
of every single prosecuting attorney on

1245
00:54:50,890 –> 00:54:54,580
the federal level and look at their

1246
00:54:52,720 –> 00:54:57,130
incarceration rate because right now we

1247
00:54:54,580 –> 00:55:00,130
incentivize it so that those who convict

1248
00:54:57,130 –> 00:55:01,990
more are considered better prosecutors

1249
00:55:00,130 –> 00:55:03,490
as opposed to what the original

1250
00:55:01,990 –> 00:55:05,650
inception of our criminal justice system

1251
00:55:03,490 –> 00:55:07,450
was which is seeking the truth right

1252
00:55:05,650 –> 00:55:08,830
people who were prosecutors on behalf of

1253
00:55:07,450 –> 00:55:10,510
the state or on behalf of the federal

1254
00:55:08,830 –> 00:55:12,700
government we’re supposed to ascertain

1255
00:55:10,510 –> 00:55:14,740
the truth not withhold evidence not

1256
00:55:12,700 –> 00:55:16,750
engage in prosecutorial misconduct not

1257
00:55:14,740 –> 00:55:19,150
bully people through the media or civil

1258
00:55:16,750 –> 00:55:21,760
asset forfeiture and to infesting to a

1259
00:55:19,150 –> 00:55:24,250
lesser crime rather they were supposed

1260
00:55:21,760 –> 00:55:25,840
to find the capital T truth so if I go

1261
00:55:24,250 –> 00:55:27,280
through this audit and I look at their

1262
00:55:25,840 –> 00:55:31,760
incarceration rate or their conviction

1263
00:55:27,280 –> 00:55:34,850
rate I will undoubtedly see that they

1264
00:55:31,760 –> 00:55:36,500
it’s conviction over the truth and that

1265
00:55:34,850 –> 00:55:38,480
they put people who didn’t deserve to be

1266
00:55:36,500 –> 00:55:40,130
put in prison away or they put people

1267
00:55:38,480 –> 00:55:43,430
who didn’t deserve the sentences they

1268
00:55:40,130 –> 00:55:45,560
got away for far longer and they will be

1269
00:55:43,430 –> 00:55:48,200
immediately disbarred and forced to get

1270
00:55:45,560 –> 00:55:49,700
a job in the private sector doing

1271
00:55:48,200 –> 00:55:52,660
something that does not involve them

1272
00:55:49,700 –> 00:55:56,570
ever touching law again because that is

1273
00:55:52,660 –> 00:55:59,990
just criminal that to me more so than

1274
00:55:56,570 –> 00:56:02,230
the breaking of a law the erosion of

1275
00:55:59,990 –> 00:56:04,220
civil liberties the erosion of the

1276
00:56:02,230 –> 00:56:06,260
entire foundation of our criminal

1277
00:56:04,220 –> 00:56:08,540
justice system and the fact that we do

1278
00:56:06,260 –> 00:56:11,150
treat everyone like a criminal whether

1279
00:56:08,540 –> 00:56:14,600
they’ve done something wrong or not that

1280
00:56:11,150 –> 00:56:16,940
is the worst thing so I really want to

1281
00:56:14,600 –> 00:56:19,580
stop that completely and then anyone who

1282
00:56:16,940 –> 00:56:21,470
is a victimless criminal on a federal

1283
00:56:19,580 –> 00:56:23,480
level anyone who is a political prisoner

1284
00:56:21,470 –> 00:56:25,369
on a federal level

1285
00:56:23,480 –> 00:56:28,310
I want to pardon them immediately and

1286
00:56:25,369 –> 00:56:29,660
see a reinstitution of their rights I

1287
00:56:28,310 –> 00:56:32,150
can’t give them back the time that they

1288
00:56:29,660 –> 00:56:35,210
lost which is greatly unfortunate but I

1289
00:56:32,150 –> 00:56:36,920
can give them back now so that is

1290
00:56:35,210 –> 00:56:39,320
something that is just very very big to

1291
00:56:36,920 –> 00:56:42,109
me and then of course whatever I can in

1292
00:56:39,320 –> 00:56:43,940
my ideal world the founder of the

1293
00:56:42,109 –> 00:56:47,150
Innocence Project or the equal justice

1294
00:56:43,940 –> 00:56:49,340
initiative those two men would be my my

1295
00:56:47,150 –> 00:56:51,170
attorney I want them as my Attorney

1296
00:56:49,340 –> 00:56:53,359
General because it would just be amazing

1297
00:56:51,170 –> 00:56:56,119
to have them on my team know absolutely

1298
00:56:53,359 –> 00:57:00,680
that see you’re already building a

1299
00:56:56,119 –> 00:57:01,490
cabinet I like so have you ever are you

1300
00:57:00,680 –> 00:57:03,350
familiar with the equal justice

1301
00:57:01,490 –> 00:57:05,330
initiative I just found out about him

1302
00:57:03,350 –> 00:57:08,119
semi recent I don’t know them but I know

1303
00:57:05,330 –> 00:57:09,410
the Innocence Project okay so bright I

1304
00:57:08,119 –> 00:57:10,850
heard about this on on podcast I

1305
00:57:09,410 –> 00:57:11,960
listened to your called criminal I don’t

1306
00:57:10,850 –> 00:57:14,030
know if you’ve ever heard that podcast

1307
00:57:11,960 –> 00:57:17,359
but it’s really really good and it was

1308
00:57:14,030 –> 00:57:19,220
it was called um just mercy was the name

1309
00:57:17,359 –> 00:57:21,260
of the episode which is also the name of

1310
00:57:19,220 –> 00:57:23,480
Bryan Stevenson’s book that he just

1311
00:57:21,260 –> 00:57:25,880
wrote and he is the founder of the equal

1312
00:57:23,480 –> 00:57:27,590
justice initiative in Alabama and they

1313
00:57:25,880 –> 00:57:28,960
have been huge advocates for people

1314
00:57:27,590 –> 00:57:30,830
who’ve been wrongfully convicted

1315
00:57:28,960 –> 00:57:33,170
children who have been tried as adults

1316
00:57:30,830 –> 00:57:36,200
and been penalized thusly people who are

1317
00:57:33,170 –> 00:57:39,590
mentally incompetent to be held to the

1318
00:57:36,200 –> 00:57:43,190
same standards they’ve been major

1319
00:57:39,590 –> 00:57:45,069
advocates and his book just mercy had

1320
00:57:43,190 –> 00:57:47,529
such a huge profound impact

1321
00:57:45,069 –> 00:57:49,689
me it was both beautifully compassionate

1322
00:57:47,529 –> 00:57:52,150
and heartbreaking some of the cases that

1323
00:57:49,689 –> 00:57:54,789
they face just it’s it’s astonishing to

1324
00:57:52,150 –> 00:57:56,979
me how we do this and it continues to

1325
00:57:54,789 –> 00:57:57,609
happen and we don’t cry out about it

1326
00:57:56,979 –> 00:57:59,199
more often

1327
00:57:57,609 –> 00:58:02,559
they just said another really good

1328
00:57:59,199 –> 00:58:04,719
podcast where they talked about Curtis

1329
00:58:02,559 –> 00:58:07,329
flowers in Mississippi who had been

1330
00:58:04,719 –> 00:58:10,900
convicted of a quadruple or quintuple

1331
00:58:07,329 –> 00:58:12,309
homicide and he was found his the

1332
00:58:10,900 –> 00:58:15,429
prosecuting attorney of the district

1333
00:58:12,309 –> 00:58:18,429
attorney Doug Evans had been found to

1334
00:58:15,429 –> 00:58:21,429
have committed prosecutorial misconduct

1335
00:58:18,429 –> 00:58:23,349
and so it was appealed and then he just

1336
00:58:21,429 –> 00:58:25,900
turned around and retried him and that

1337
00:58:23,349 –> 00:58:28,569
didn’t just happen once it happened six

1338
00:58:25,900 –> 00:58:30,849
times six times this Curtis flowers was

1339
00:58:28,569 –> 00:58:34,959
tried and convicted of murdering these

1340
00:58:30,849 –> 00:58:38,769
people on completely superficial grounds

1341
00:58:34,959 –> 00:58:41,349
totally there was no evidence there were

1342
00:58:38,769 –> 00:58:43,569
you know jailhouse informants and some

1343
00:58:41,349 –> 00:58:45,249
specious allegations no put forth but

1344
00:58:43,569 –> 00:58:48,640
there was no real evidence to prove that

1345
00:58:45,249 –> 00:58:50,439
he actually did anything and he still

1346
00:58:48,640 –> 00:58:53,949
has been sitting in prison for I think

1347
00:58:50,439 –> 00:58:56,409
it’s what 27 years it happens is over 20

1348
00:58:53,949 –> 00:58:57,729
years and just recently went before the

1349
00:58:56,409 –> 00:59:00,759
Supreme Court and the Supreme Court

1350
00:58:57,729 –> 00:59:02,559
found that his prosecuting attorney was

1351
00:59:00,759 –> 00:59:05,849
guilty of a Batson violation which is

1352
00:59:02,559 –> 00:59:08,289
when you typically have you crowd out

1353
00:59:05,849 –> 00:59:10,599
African Americans you ensure that

1354
00:59:08,289 –> 00:59:12,729
there’s more of a homogeneous jury you

1355
00:59:10,599 –> 00:59:14,589
so you strike out anybody who would have

1356
00:59:12,729 –> 00:59:16,359
more diversity so they found it

1357
00:59:14,589 –> 00:59:18,759
responsible for a Batson violation and

1358
00:59:16,359 –> 00:59:20,529
again overturn the conviction but now

1359
00:59:18,759 –> 00:59:23,140
that guy is talking about trying him a

1360
00:59:20,529 –> 00:59:25,809
seventh time like this is insanity

1361
00:59:23,140 –> 00:59:27,969
so yeah just crazy stuff happens and

1362
00:59:25,809 –> 00:59:30,909
it’s these are people’s lives caught in

1363
00:59:27,969 –> 00:59:36,489
the fray it in Tennessee recently they

1364
00:59:30,909 –> 00:59:40,150
had what was that guy matthew charles he

1365
00:59:36,489 –> 00:59:42,369
was convicted years ago for i believe it

1366
00:59:40,150 –> 00:59:45,009
was a drug possession and he was in jail

1367
00:59:42,369 –> 00:59:47,499
for a really long time at four and he

1368
00:59:45,009 –> 00:59:50,919
recently got pardoned but they tried him

1369
00:59:47,499 –> 00:59:52,509
they let him go and then they said that

1370
00:59:50,919 –> 00:59:54,249
he didn’t finish his time so they just

1371
00:59:52,509 –> 00:59:57,339
arrested him again made him finish out

1372
00:59:54,249 –> 00:59:58,299
the rest of his time and then he ended

1373
00:59:57,339 –> 01:00:00,880
just got part

1374
00:59:58,299 –> 01:00:05,019
and maybe four or five months ago and

1375
01:00:00,880 –> 01:00:07,359
he’s out now but like this the criminal

1376
01:00:05,019 –> 01:00:08,019
justice system in America is it is

1377
01:00:07,359 –> 01:00:13,089
broken

1378
01:00:08,019 –> 01:00:14,799
it is yakun it is I hate saying like I

1379
01:00:13,089 –> 01:00:16,119
hate using racist because people have

1380
01:00:14,799 –> 01:00:17,679
dumbed it down to the point that it

1381
01:00:16,119 –> 01:00:19,390
doesn’t even mean anything anymore

1382
01:00:17,679 –> 01:00:23,589
but so much of the criminal justice

1383
01:00:19,390 –> 01:00:24,969
system is racist and it goes against

1384
01:00:23,589 –> 01:00:28,329
everything that America is supposed to

1385
01:00:24,969 –> 01:00:29,650
be in my mind right now the the whole

1386
01:00:28,329 –> 01:00:31,209
point and purpose of having that

1387
01:00:29,650 –> 01:00:33,130
criminal justice system as it was

1388
01:00:31,209 –> 01:00:35,140
originally designed was to allow anyone

1389
01:00:33,130 –> 01:00:37,839
regardless of ethnic background or

1390
01:00:35,140 –> 01:00:40,779
economic class or station it was to

1391
01:00:37,839 –> 01:00:42,849
afford them equivalent representation in

1392
01:00:40,779 –> 01:00:44,709
the criminal justice system and that

1393
01:00:42,849 –> 01:00:47,349
erosion of similarity is in the

1394
01:00:44,709 –> 01:00:49,420
elimination of habeas corpus and mens

1395
01:00:47,349 –> 01:00:51,400
rea a– or other things that are

1396
01:00:49,420 –> 01:00:53,619
incredibly important and part of that

1397
01:00:51,400 –> 01:00:55,989
foundation means that we are

1398
01:00:53,619 –> 01:00:57,789
disproportionately convicting minorities

1399
01:00:55,989 –> 01:00:59,619
we were disproportionately convicting

1400
01:00:57,789 –> 01:01:02,140
impoverished people who can’t afford a

1401
01:00:59,619 –> 01:01:05,469
better defense and that is what we’re

1402
01:01:02,140 –> 01:01:08,499
filling up our prisons with right and if

1403
01:01:05,469 –> 01:01:10,809
that’s when I worked briefly with a

1404
01:01:08,499 –> 01:01:11,529
non-profit the melibea initiative and

1405
01:01:10,809 –> 01:01:13,059
one of the things that they’re working

1406
01:01:11,529 –> 01:01:16,839
on is free market solutions to the

1407
01:01:13,059 –> 01:01:18,670
criminal justice system and they were

1408
01:01:16,839 –> 01:01:21,219
doing that they do a lot of great work

1409
01:01:18,670 –> 01:01:25,329
and I respect everybody there very much

1410
01:01:21,219 –> 01:01:26,859
and they’re working on getting AB and

1411
01:01:25,329 –> 01:01:29,499
the Box kind of thing in a free-market

1412
01:01:26,859 –> 01:01:31,959
way where companies would agree to take

1413
01:01:29,499 –> 01:01:34,660
the box off of the have you ever been

1414
01:01:31,959 –> 01:01:36,429
convicted which that huge step in the

1415
01:01:34,660 –> 01:01:40,509
right direction it allows you to

1416
01:01:36,429 –> 01:01:42,249
actually reintegrate into society it’s

1417
01:01:40,509 –> 01:01:44,199
been something that I’ve cared about a

1418
01:01:42,249 –> 01:01:45,910
lot since I got involved in a

1419
01:01:44,199 –> 01:01:48,609
libertarian movement is criminal justice

1420
01:01:45,910 –> 01:01:50,709
reform so it’s good to see you

1421
01:01:48,609 –> 01:01:52,630
passionate about that because it is a

1422
01:01:50,709 –> 01:01:57,449
broken broken system

1423
01:01:52,630 –> 01:01:57,449
that needs to definitely be fixed

1424
01:01:57,539 –> 01:02:02,969
although something else that definitely

1425
01:01:59,619 –> 01:02:04,900
needs to be fixed when you’re elected

1426
01:02:02,969 –> 01:02:07,739
how long would the Department of

1427
01:02:04,900 –> 01:02:07,739
Education be around

1428
01:02:12,410 –> 01:02:19,349
well no greater than four years way to

1429
01:02:17,069 –> 01:02:21,209
put it when we you know we were talking

1430
01:02:19,349 –> 01:02:23,099
about this because even though the

1431
01:02:21,209 –> 01:02:24,719
probability is not in our favor of

1432
01:02:23,099 –> 01:02:26,459
getting elected this is just the reality

1433
01:02:24,719 –> 01:02:28,499
running as a third party and the

1434
01:02:26,459 –> 01:02:32,160
stranglehold the two major parties have

1435
01:02:28,499 –> 01:02:33,749
on politics it’s still important for us

1436
01:02:32,160 –> 01:02:36,299
to view this from the perspective of

1437
01:02:33,749 –> 01:02:37,920
this is what I would do this is my

1438
01:02:36,299 –> 01:02:39,569
hundred days plan this is the cabinet

1439
01:02:37,920 –> 01:02:41,099
that I would staff and I was looking at

1440
01:02:39,569 –> 01:02:43,559
all of the different positions that are

1441
01:02:41,099 –> 01:02:45,589
currently part of the cabinet and like

1442
01:02:43,559 –> 01:02:47,910
75% of them aren’t even constitutional

1443
01:02:45,589 –> 01:02:49,739
you know there’s no department that they

1444
01:02:47,910 –> 01:02:51,660
can justifiably manage because it’s not

1445
01:02:49,739 –> 01:02:52,650
actually afforded by the Constitution

1446
01:02:51,660 –> 01:02:54,660
it’s something that should be allocated

1447
01:02:52,650 –> 01:02:57,809
to States based on the Tenth Amendment

1448
01:02:54,660 –> 01:02:59,430
so hartman education is a really good

1449
01:02:57,809 –> 01:03:00,959
example Department of Education

1450
01:02:59,430 –> 01:03:02,249
absolutely was never supposed to be

1451
01:03:00,959 –> 01:03:04,019
under the purview of the federal

1452
01:03:02,249 –> 01:03:07,229
government that was incumbent upon

1453
01:03:04,019 –> 01:03:08,969
communities to the greatest extent and

1454
01:03:07,229 –> 01:03:11,190
then the state to a significantly lesser

1455
01:03:08,969 –> 01:03:13,949
extent to provide that public education

1456
01:03:11,190 –> 01:03:15,630
wasn’t even really a thing that we did

1457
01:03:13,949 –> 01:03:19,979
until the industrialization of our

1458
01:03:15,630 –> 01:03:21,239
nation so yeah I I do believe that we

1459
01:03:19,979 –> 01:03:23,759
should absolutely abolish that

1460
01:03:21,239 –> 01:03:25,650
department I would not staff that seat I

1461
01:03:23,759 –> 01:03:27,269
think that that’s something that we need

1462
01:03:25,650 –> 01:03:30,119
to privatize and I think that if we

1463
01:03:27,269 –> 01:03:32,309
relinquish the stranglehold we have on

1464
01:03:30,119 –> 01:03:33,869
people’s tax dollar and permitted them

1465
01:03:32,309 –> 01:03:36,269
to have more of the wage that they

1466
01:03:33,869 –> 01:03:39,739
earned they could then in turn afford

1467
01:03:36,269 –> 01:03:43,529
much better education on their own terms

1468
01:03:39,739 –> 01:03:47,900
right and then with private charities

1469
01:03:43,529 –> 01:03:50,190
being more prevalent in those societies

1470
01:03:47,900 –> 01:03:51,539
people would be able to go to them to be

1471
01:03:50,190 –> 01:03:53,339
like hey I want to get my kid into this

1472
01:03:51,539 –> 01:03:56,699
school and they’d be able to pick the

1473
01:03:53,339 –> 01:03:59,969
school in which this student their son

1474
01:03:56,699 –> 01:04:02,459
and or daughter or Z would be able to go

1475
01:03:59,969 –> 01:04:05,699
to right and there’s a lot of private

1476
01:04:02,459 –> 01:04:08,640
schools that have alums who will set up

1477
01:04:05,699 –> 01:04:10,319
a foundation to help people you know

1478
01:04:08,640 –> 01:04:11,699
help people who want to go to that

1479
01:04:10,319 –> 01:04:13,739
school and have the academic achievement

1480
01:04:11,699 –> 01:04:15,809
or whatever or the requirement but

1481
01:04:13,739 –> 01:04:17,579
couldn’t necessarily afford to go I went

1482
01:04:15,809 –> 01:04:19,650
to an all-girls Catholic school for high

1483
01:04:17,579 –> 01:04:22,289
school and we have quite a few people

1484
01:04:19,650 –> 01:04:23,550
who are alumni of Xavier who do that

1485
01:04:22,289 –> 01:04:25,140
very thing so

1486
01:04:23,550 –> 01:04:26,690
you can have other people who couldn’t

1487
01:04:25,140 –> 01:04:29,490
normally afford to pay the tuition

1488
01:04:26,690 –> 01:04:31,440
covered and get that superior education

1489
01:04:29,490 –> 01:04:33,030
you’re not gonna learn science very well

1490
01:04:31,440 –> 01:04:35,040
because you know it conflicts with the

1491
01:04:33,030 –> 01:04:36,660
whole religious aspect but your writing

1492
01:04:35,040 –> 01:04:41,730
and your history is going to be awesome

1493
01:04:36,660 –> 01:04:44,940
right yeah make a I’ll teach writing to

1494
01:04:41,730 –> 01:04:46,650
anybody that’ll be fun no no write

1495
01:04:44,940 –> 01:04:48,210
whatever you want I don’t care no that’s

1496
01:04:46,650 –> 01:04:49,410
great you need to learn the difference

1497
01:04:48,210 –> 01:04:51,600
between there there and there once you

1498
01:04:49,410 –> 01:04:55,670
figure that out come back come back to

1499
01:04:51,600 –> 01:04:58,560
the Internet and make it the meme right

1500
01:04:55,670 –> 01:05:00,120
Jane Sweeney says his only request is

1501
01:04:58,560 –> 01:05:02,070
when you get elected appointment to the

1502
01:05:00,120 –> 01:05:03,660
department’s you want done away with and

1503
01:05:02,070 –> 01:05:06,390
then he’ll hold a press conference

1504
01:05:03,660 –> 01:05:10,170
justifying it to the people thanking you

1505
01:05:06,390 –> 01:05:11,580
and all that that’s sweet I’m like

1506
01:05:10,170 –> 01:05:18,150
blotting my face not because I’m crying

1507
01:05:11,580 –> 01:05:20,550
because it’s like oh my gosh deal

1508
01:05:18,150 –> 01:05:22,650
absolutely Shane’s awesome I totally do

1509
01:05:20,550 –> 01:05:32,250
that yeah I love Shane Shane’s great

1510
01:05:22,650 –> 01:05:33,720
yeah I’m like at least 25 things just

1511
01:05:32,250 –> 01:05:35,070
haven’t do all of them just go okay

1512
01:05:33,720 –> 01:05:36,420
we’re going in this order you’re just

1513
01:05:35,070 –> 01:05:39,630
going to keep getting appointed to the

1514
01:05:36,420 –> 01:05:41,160
next department everybody reach under

1515
01:05:39,630 –> 01:05:42,300
your chair they pull out a piece of

1516
01:05:41,160 –> 01:05:48,930
paper and it’s like these are all the

1517
01:05:42,300 –> 01:05:49,890
departments that are gone now so one of

1518
01:05:48,930 –> 01:05:52,620
the things that I did have a question

1519
01:05:49,890 –> 01:05:55,200
about open debate inclusion for all

1520
01:05:52,620 –> 01:05:59,730
candidates would there be any limitation

1521
01:05:55,200 –> 01:06:02,490
to that no no we do like the Democrats

1522
01:05:59,730 –> 01:06:05,820
are doing right now we’d like 20 20

1523
01:06:02,490 –> 01:06:08,880
different people on stage we could do it

1524
01:06:05,820 –> 01:06:10,620
more like um we could do it more like

1525
01:06:08,880 –> 01:06:12,720
you’re Thunderdome thing like instead of

1526
01:06:10,620 –> 01:06:15,810
it being like a stage that’s like one

1527
01:06:12,720 –> 01:06:17,760
line Roy can do all the way around maybe

1528
01:06:15,810 –> 01:06:23,630
just have the audience sit on a rotating

1529
01:06:17,760 –> 01:06:26,670
disc I don’t know I mean um

1530
01:06:23,630 –> 01:06:27,960
whoever if it’s a private enterprise you

1531
01:06:26,670 –> 01:06:29,760
know if it’s a private foundation or

1532
01:06:27,960 –> 01:06:31,650
organization that puts it on then the

1533
01:06:29,760 –> 01:06:34,050
criteria that they want to establish for

1534
01:06:31,650 –> 01:06:35,940
it is entirely up to them and that needs

1535
01:06:34,050 –> 01:06:37,180
to be honored because it is a private

1536
01:06:35,940 –> 01:06:40,299
organization it’s they

1537
01:06:37,180 –> 01:06:42,010
property there rules whatever so if they

1538
01:06:40,299 –> 01:06:43,690
want to say you know you have to have

1539
01:06:42,010 –> 01:06:45,430
filed with the FEC you have to have

1540
01:06:43,690 –> 01:06:47,740
raised a certain threshold you have to

1541
01:06:45,430 –> 01:06:49,779
have valid access in X amount of states

1542
01:06:47,740 –> 01:06:52,839
then and that’s the criteria they want

1543
01:06:49,779 –> 01:06:53,829
to use to vet candidates that’s fine but

1544
01:06:52,839 –> 01:06:56,170
if they want to make it really

1545
01:06:53,829 –> 01:06:59,500
interesting and get lots of sponsorship

1546
01:06:56,170 –> 01:07:01,420
and have a very very exciting debate I

1547
01:06:59,500 –> 01:07:04,089
strongly encourage them to have me on

1548
01:07:01,420 –> 01:07:12,700
because I will light that bitch on fire

1549
01:07:04,089 –> 01:07:14,770
oh I would love to say whatever you want

1550
01:07:12,700 –> 01:07:18,599
on this show

1551
01:07:14,770 –> 01:07:24,190
I would love to seem a debate between

1552
01:07:18,599 –> 01:07:25,720
Donald Trump and you and whoever wins

1553
01:07:24,190 –> 01:07:27,309
for the Democrats it’d be great if it

1554
01:07:25,720 –> 01:07:31,119
was marianne williamson because i’d just

1555
01:07:27,309 –> 01:07:36,039
be fun and like vermin supreme and Jill

1556
01:07:31,119 –> 01:07:37,059
Stein and some other Ralph Nader if you

1557
01:07:36,039 –> 01:07:39,940
stood I don’t even know if she’s still

1558
01:07:37,059 –> 01:07:41,740
alive and probably he’s not going

1559
01:07:39,940 –> 01:07:44,200
anywhere just having this huge debate

1560
01:07:41,740 –> 01:07:47,170
with everybody that would be so much fun

1561
01:07:44,200 –> 01:07:49,900
and it would actually educate people on

1562
01:07:47,170 –> 01:07:51,430
different options as opposed to you’ve

1563
01:07:49,900 –> 01:07:53,230
got this side of the coin or this side

1564
01:07:51,430 –> 01:08:00,400
of the coin and you’re going to hear

1565
01:07:53,230 –> 01:08:02,789
Donald Trump say wrong by the way you’re

1566
01:08:00,400 –> 01:08:02,789
one word

1567
01:08:03,839 –> 01:08:08,319
yeah no I would much prefer it if there

1568
01:08:06,220 –> 01:08:10,779
was you know credible wide strata of

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01:08:08,319 –> 01:08:12,460
ideologies but before the American

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01:08:10,779 –> 01:08:14,619
people and they were permitted to truly

1571
01:08:12,460 –> 01:08:16,870
hear the way these different ideologies

1572
01:08:14,619 –> 01:08:19,120
are and what our solutions are ideas

1573
01:08:16,870 –> 01:08:20,739
would be right now like when we do the

1574
01:08:19,120 –> 01:08:23,080
Libertarian Party debates there’s

1575
01:08:20,739 –> 01:08:26,109
precious little difference in the

1576
01:08:23,080 –> 01:08:28,390
overarching philosophy that I hold with

1577
01:08:26,109 –> 01:08:31,659
what any other money what any of the

1578
01:08:28,390 –> 01:08:33,759
other candidates hold so in order to

1579
01:08:31,659 –> 01:08:35,799
sort of distinguish yourself you have to

1580
01:08:33,759 –> 01:08:38,080
kind of it’s harder to distinguish

1581
01:08:35,799 –> 01:08:39,429
yourself when you’re when you’re so much

1582
01:08:38,080 –> 01:08:41,650
aligned and the same thing is true of

1583
01:08:39,429 –> 01:08:43,120
the Democrats I mean there’s Tulsi was a

1584
01:08:41,650 –> 01:08:45,069
standout because she was the only one

1585
01:08:43,120 –> 01:08:47,620
who was anti-war but everybody else

1586
01:08:45,069 –> 01:08:50,230
talked about what varying degrees of

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01:08:47,620 –> 01:08:51,319
welfare they were going to enact you

1588
01:08:50,230 –> 01:08:53,060
know that’s

1589
01:08:51,319 –> 01:08:55,099
that’s so sweet Lord just like well

1590
01:08:53,060 –> 01:08:57,949
goodness do I want more of social

1591
01:08:55,099 –> 01:08:59,690
security or more of these benefits like

1592
01:08:57,949 –> 01:09:01,009
maybe you need somebody up there who’s

1593
01:08:59,690 –> 01:09:02,060
like no you don’t need them at all you

1594
01:09:01,009 –> 01:09:03,679
should be able to plan for your own

1595
01:09:02,060 –> 01:09:06,259
retirement right you should be able to

1596
01:09:03,679 –> 01:09:08,179
have your own money so right I mean

1597
01:09:06,259 –> 01:09:10,449
there’s boomers out there that would be

1598
01:09:08,179 –> 01:09:13,909
very disappointed in that statement but

1599
01:09:10,449 –> 01:09:17,630
no no I was promised my Social Security

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01:09:13,909 –> 01:09:21,650
and I’m getting it I will give you back

1601
01:09:17,630 –> 01:09:23,480
what you paid and nothing more because I

1602
01:09:21,650 –> 01:09:26,569
think that’s there that’s fair that is

1603
01:09:23,480 –> 01:09:27,949
that is fair I’ve I’ve paid in I don’t

1604
01:09:26,569 –> 01:09:29,779
know how much money is Social Security I

1605
01:09:27,949 –> 01:09:32,690
never figured out can you look that up

1606
01:09:29,779 –> 01:09:34,099
oh I think you know I think you get a

1607
01:09:32,690 –> 01:09:37,069
statement from the Social Security

1608
01:09:34,099 –> 01:09:39,020
Administration every year that you

1609
01:09:37,069 –> 01:09:40,790
typically around tax time I believe

1610
01:09:39,020 –> 01:09:46,119
that’ll specify how much you have paid

1611
01:09:40,790 –> 01:09:46,119
to date I believe mine is a hundred and

1612
01:09:52,449 –> 01:09:59,420
seventeen I hope you know what I hope it

1613
01:09:56,960 –> 01:10:00,860
is 172 dollars if all they took from me

1614
01:09:59,420 –> 01:10:03,889
was a hundred and seventy two dollars

1615
01:10:00,860 –> 01:10:04,849
I’m doing okay right I’d be like you

1616
01:10:03,889 –> 01:10:12,020
know what you can keep it

1617
01:10:04,849 –> 01:10:16,760
I’m fine that’s right don’t spend it all

1618
01:10:12,020 –> 01:10:20,389
on one dinner okay spread that out with

1619
01:10:16,760 –> 01:10:24,040
caps on them for God’s sakes so I know

1620
01:10:20,389 –> 01:10:27,699
that in November you’re gonna be in

1621
01:10:24,040 –> 01:10:30,920
South Carolina yes it’s true yes I

1622
01:10:27,699 –> 01:10:33,860
believe that the entire muddied waters

1623
01:10:30,920 –> 01:10:36,949
media crew is going to be there at that

1624
01:10:33,860 –> 01:10:39,380
event that’s lady yes I’m very excited

1625
01:10:36,949 –> 01:10:41,270
about that event it’s it will also be

1626
01:10:39,380 –> 01:10:43,159
the first time that the members of

1627
01:10:41,270 –> 01:10:44,179
muddied waters media ever meet each

1628
01:10:43,159 –> 01:10:48,050
other in person

1629
01:10:44,179 –> 01:10:49,969
oh sweet it’s like a family reunion yeah

1630
01:10:48,050 –> 01:10:53,300
but the family that’s never met bring

1631
01:10:49,969 –> 01:10:55,099
you were all opted we were all adopted

1632
01:10:53,300 –> 01:10:58,329
in different states and we just talked

1633
01:10:55,099 –> 01:11:00,440
to each other ever over the Internet

1634
01:10:58,329 –> 01:11:04,190
that’ll be fine yeah it’s gonna be a

1635
01:11:00,440 –> 01:11:07,540
good time so besides that big event on

1636
01:11:04,190 –> 01:11:10,090
November 2nd I believe is one that is

1637
01:11:07,540 –> 01:11:13,010
what other things do you have coming up

1638
01:11:10,090 –> 01:11:14,690
well I actually have to get off the horn

1639
01:11:13,010 –> 01:11:16,820
pretty quick here because I need to pack

1640
01:11:14,690 –> 01:11:18,199
and prepare to go to Massachusetts this

1641
01:11:16,820 –> 01:11:20,660
weekend so I’m gonna go to their

1642
01:11:18,199 –> 01:11:22,580
convention which will also be there will

1643
01:11:20,660 –> 01:11:25,070
be a debate that Matt Welch is hosting

1644
01:11:22,580 –> 01:11:27,350
and it will be televised as well okay

1645
01:11:25,070 –> 01:11:30,620
though I’m gonna do that and I believe

1646
01:11:27,350 –> 01:11:33,530
my shuttle picks me up at 2 a.m. so I’m

1647
01:11:30,620 –> 01:11:35,920
excited I was like we’re stayin of all

1648
01:11:33,530 –> 01:11:39,530
night minute 1:45

1649
01:11:35,920 –> 01:11:41,150
but that’s me every time I’m like ok

1650
01:11:39,530 –> 01:11:43,640
I’ve got a 5 a.m. flight I’m just gonna

1651
01:11:41,150 –> 01:11:45,920
stay up all night long which I always do

1652
01:11:43,640 –> 01:11:47,630
but I can’t sleep on planes so the next

1653
01:11:45,920 –> 01:11:51,219
day like my first day at wherever I’m at

1654
01:11:47,630 –> 01:11:51,219
him like don’t just go away

1655
01:11:55,540 –> 01:12:00,890
why is everybody dropping their arse

1656
01:11:57,920 –> 01:12:03,699
it’s not hard to say and why are you

1657
01:12:00,890 –> 01:12:03,699
talking like that

1658
01:12:03,969 –> 01:12:10,820
so if people want to support you learn

1659
01:12:08,449 –> 01:12:13,640
more about you where can they go what

1660
01:12:10,820 –> 01:12:16,640
can they see where can they what

1661
01:12:13,640 –> 01:12:19,670
everyone all of the things all the

1662
01:12:16,640 –> 01:12:21,560
things ok to reiterate my name is Kim

1663
01:12:19,670 –> 01:12:23,810
Roth and I am seeking the Libertarian

1664
01:12:21,560 –> 01:12:26,420
Party nomination for president in 2020

1665
01:12:23,810 –> 01:12:32,449
if you’d like to learn more you can find

1666
01:12:26,420 –> 01:12:34,940
out at WWF Phillips 2020 calm that

1667
01:12:32,449 –> 01:12:38,840
spelled R u F F like dog barking

1668
01:12:34,940 –> 01:12:45,070
Phillips – zero – zero calm also we’re

1669
01:12:38,840 –> 01:13:00,260
on Facebook Twitter Pinterest Instagram

1670
01:12:45,070 –> 01:13:00,920
yeah now we’re on all the things you’ll

1671
01:13:00,260 –> 01:13:03,590
find me there

1672
01:13:00,920 –> 01:13:05,930
it’s like 75% manufacturing

1673
01:13:03,590 –> 01:13:08,570
professionals and then 25% libertarians

1674
01:13:05,930 –> 01:13:12,020
my LinkedIn’s like more appropriate

1675
01:13:08,570 –> 01:13:15,679
right my my LinkedIn is a 25% real

1676
01:13:12,020 –> 01:13:17,630
estate agents 25% people that I’ve met

1677
01:13:15,679 –> 01:13:17,910
that added me randomly and I don’t even

1678
01:13:17,630 –> 01:13:20,460
know

1679
01:13:17,910 –> 01:13:27,450
they do and then 50% libertarians and

1680
01:13:20,460 –> 01:13:31,680
somehow Charlie Kurt I don’t know I’m

1681
01:13:27,450 –> 01:13:35,040
asking like I’m like a person’s name oh

1682
01:13:31,680 –> 01:13:39,000
he sounds interesting now he’s a turning

1683
01:13:35,040 –> 01:13:40,620
point USA guy and I was like end up

1684
01:13:39,000 –> 01:13:45,360
being friends with you in here okay

1685
01:13:40,620 –> 01:13:47,370
weird but so yeah everybody needs to go

1686
01:13:45,360 –> 01:13:51,000
out read read all of your stuff because

1687
01:13:47,370 –> 01:13:52,710
I your website didn’t have any typos so

1688
01:13:51,000 –> 01:13:58,110
I mean right there you’re winning in my

1689
01:13:52,710 –> 01:14:00,450
mind what a low bar we’d set kind of is

1690
01:13:58,110 –> 01:14:05,820
like yes they proof read this this is

1691
01:14:00,450 –> 01:14:09,120
great yeah but now go out and everybody

1692
01:14:05,820 –> 01:14:12,090
check out Kim ruff-ruff Phillips 2020

1693
01:14:09,120 –> 01:14:15,600
dot-com right yeah ruff-ruff Phillips

1694
01:14:12,090 –> 01:14:17,640
2020 calm do you have anything else you

1695
01:14:15,600 –> 01:14:19,890
that you would like to say to all of the

1696
01:14:17,640 –> 01:14:23,430
people out there in the interwebs on the

1697
01:14:19,890 –> 01:14:24,510
inter highway well just thank you very

1698
01:14:23,430 –> 01:14:26,310
much for your time

1699
01:14:24,510 –> 01:14:28,140
appreciate you guys tuning in and of

1700
01:14:26,310 –> 01:14:35,840
course congratulations on your one-year

1701
01:14:28,140 –> 01:14:37,950
anniversary I forgot again people just

1702
01:14:35,840 –> 01:14:40,860
brighten my entire day oh yeah I’ve been

1703
01:14:37,950 –> 01:14:43,590
doing this for a year now well yeah No

1704
01:14:40,860 –> 01:14:45,680
thank you so much for coming on um I

1705
01:14:43,590 –> 01:14:48,720
know that you have to pack for

1706
01:14:45,680 –> 01:14:51,450
Massachusetts say hi to the Red Sox for

1707
01:14:48,720 –> 01:14:53,190
me and if you want to hang out I’m gonna

1708
01:14:51,450 –> 01:14:54,570
do the outro if you want to hang out for

1709
01:14:53,190 –> 01:14:57,540
a minute so I can talk to you afterwards

1710
01:14:54,570 –> 01:14:59,300
if that’s cool okay cool everybody else

1711
01:14:57,540 –> 01:15:01,980
remember that you can follow us on

1712
01:14:59,300 –> 01:15:03,000
facebook at facebook.com slash muddied

1713
01:15:01,980 –> 01:15:04,500
waters media you can follow us on

1714
01:15:03,000 –> 01:15:05,610
instagram at muddy waters media you can

1715
01:15:04,500 –> 01:15:07,140
follow us on twitter at muddy to

1716
01:15:05,610 –> 01:15:10,170
underscore waters and you can follow us

1717
01:15:07,140 –> 01:15:12,950
on youtube at youtube.com slash muddied

1718
01:15:10,170 –> 01:15:16,110
waters media and you can find this an

1719
01:15:12,950 –> 01:15:19,110
anchor FM if you’re starting a podcast

1720
01:15:16,110 –> 01:15:22,020
use anchor FM download the app today and

1721
01:15:19,110 –> 01:15:24,270
you can find us at anchor FM / muddied

1722
01:15:22,020 –> 01:15:26,700
waters and you can find this in every

1723
01:15:24,270 –> 01:15:30,600
episode at muddied waters of freedom

1724
01:15:26,700 –> 01:15:31,469
calm have a great weekend starting

1725
01:15:30,600 –> 01:15:34,110
tomorrow

1726
01:15:31,469 –> 01:15:35,670
we have Jason Lyon with mr. America the

1727
01:15:34,110 –> 01:15:39,179
bearded truth then we’re taking two days

1728
01:15:35,670 –> 01:15:41,880
off Jason Lyman comes back to go through

1729
01:15:39,179 –> 01:15:44,749
the weekend events and the next Tuesday

1730
01:15:41,880 –> 01:15:47,550
spike and I will be right here doing

1731
01:15:44,749 –> 01:15:49,769
muddied waters of freedom and next

1732
01:15:47,550 –> 01:15:53,639
Wednesday spike has an all-new episode

1733
01:15:49,769 –> 01:15:57,539
of my fellow Americans and then next

1734
01:15:53,639 –> 01:15:59,610
Thursday join me right here for whatever

1735
01:15:57,539 –> 01:16:02,969
show the writer’s block whatever show

1736
01:15:59,610 –> 01:16:04,349
this is with whoever my guest is going

1737
01:16:02,969 –> 01:16:07,110
to be because I don’t have that written

1738
01:16:04,349 –> 01:16:12,530
down in my notes so have a great weekend

1739
01:16:07,110 –> 01:16:12,530
enjoy whatever it is you’re gonna do and

1740
01:16:31,130 –> 01:16:36,250
to convince all that world I don’t need

1741
01:16:33,500 –> 01:16:36,250
anybody’s help

1742
01:16:38,550 –> 01:16:42,510
a lot of swimming I have to save me a

1743
01:16:40,469 –> 01:16:45,030
lonely dragging dead

1744
01:16:42,510 –> 01:16:47,699
I’ll try to use your body as a life raft

1745
01:16:45,030 –> 01:16:53,510
cuz if there’s room enough for one there

1746
01:16:47,699 –> 01:16:53,510
must be four to two

1747
01:17:19,230 –> 01:17:24,380
hiding-places broadcast of the evening

1748
01:17:21,660 –> 01:17:24,380
news hour

1749
01:17:41,170 –> 01:17:47,230
don’t bother swimming at to save me I

1750
01:17:43,940 –> 01:17:47,230
will only track it

1751
01:17:48,119 –> 01:18:04,960
don’t bother sweater to save me I will

1752
01:17:51,670 –> 01:18:07,980
only drag myself it’s a standard for the

1753
01:18:04,960 –> 01:18:11,700
legs saga

1754
01:18:07,980 –> 01:18:14,700
to convince all that world I don’t need

1755
01:18:11,700 –> 01:18:14,700
anybody’s

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01:18:16,500 –> 01:18:19,280
fuck