(((My Fellow Americans))) #61: We Can Prove It Mathematically with Jordan Logue

The world is gripped with fear and misinformation regarding the COVID-19 coronavirus pandemic, and Spike is here to help cut through the nonsense and get to the facts. Spike is joined tonight by Literal Scientist Jordan Logue, Biomedical Sciences Researcher at FSU College of Medicine. We're going to parse through the propaganda about COVID-19 and talk about what's really going on, including how the federal government barred hospitals and universities from testing for it for months, and how the heroes who continued testing illegally helped to save countless lives. We're also going to talk about how the war on drugs has destroyed the lives of people while making medical research much more difficult, and much more! Also, because Jordan is an Admin of Fakertarians, we'll no doubt be trashing fake libertarians throughout the show.


About This Episode

The world is gripped with fear and misinformation regarding the COVID-19 coronavirus pandemic, and Spike is here to help cut through the nonsense and get to the facts. Spike is joined tonight by Literal Scientist Jordan Logue, Biomedical Sciences Researcher at FSU College of Medicine. We’re going to parse through the propaganda about COVID-19 and talk about what’s really going on, including how the federal government barred hospitals and universities from testing for it for months, and how the heroes who continued testing illegally helped to save countless lives.

We’re also going to talk about how the war on drugs has destroyed the lives of people while making medical research much more difficult, and much more!

Also, because Jordan is an Admin of Fakertarians, we’ll no doubt be trashing fake libertarians throughout the show.

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explain plank 1.6 we left off on plank
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1.5 abortion which was just what a great
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real fun time talking about abortion
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just a great just a lot of minds changed
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and people coming together this one
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should prove to be even less divisive or
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divisive divisive and divisive anyway
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tonight we’re going to explain plank one
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point six which is parental rights all
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of the all of the planks from section
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one are related to self ownership but
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this one says parental rights parents or
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other guardians have the right to raise
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their children according to their own
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standards and beliefs provided that the
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rights of children to be free from abuse
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and neglect are also protected now that
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sounds pretty good but what exactly does
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that mean well as we know as we’ve
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talked about libertarian beliefs are
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related to self ownership the belief
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that we own ourselves because we own
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ourselves we honor our bodies because we
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own our bodies we own our labor and our
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we own our lives and we own our bodies
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we own our labor
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because we on our labor we on our
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property um now children aren’t really
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necessarily something that you own
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they’re a separate human being that you
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create but as an adult who is in charge
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of the care of that child you have the
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right to decide the way in which that
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you raise that child with the
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understanding of course that that child
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is also an individual human being who
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has its own his or her own rights are
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sure I don’t want to gender anyone who
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has the child has the child’s own rights
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not implying anything they have their
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own rights and they have their their own
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level of autonomy um so you can’t hurt
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them you can’t abuse them you can’t
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neglect them but provided that you are
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meeting their needs and not you know
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abusing them in some way then you have
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the right to raise them according to the
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values and beliefs that you have we
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should not have a a state imposed or
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societally imposed top-down standard for
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how children should be raised and we see
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you know again we talk a lot about what
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happens not just in theory but in
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practice when we give government power
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they often use it and very abusive
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inequitable and harmful ways we’ve we’ve
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all heard so many stories about children
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Protective Services and Department of
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Social Services in the various states
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taking people’s children with little to
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no evidence and that you know the
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parents having to fight to get their
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kids back there was a recent story I
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wish I could remember where exactly it
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was but we’re a family
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um one of the parents smoked marijuana
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and so they took the child for and
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they’d smoked it for medical reasons and
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they took the child from them and the
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child ended up being abused and killed
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by the foster parents that’s a perfect
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example of it’s an extreme example but
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it’s a perfect example of why we we
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believe that the state should stay out
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of it if there is to be a government the
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only thing that should be doing is
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making sure that there is not direct
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neglect or abuse happening if it’s just
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someone living in a way that some of us
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might not approve of that’s no one’s
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business so long as the child’s needs
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are being met and they’re not being
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including the need to not be neglected
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or abused then it’s really no one else’s
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business so that’s what that means there
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are many different you know we can spend
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literally an entire episode and I’m sure
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we will one day in terms of you know
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libertarians like to argue about
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everything and including this what
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constitutes abuse what constitutes
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neglect and many other really sticky
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that I have absolutely zero interest in
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talking about right now but overall we
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agree that it provided that you are not
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neglecting or abusing them that you
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should be able to raise them in the way
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you see fit
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so that is this week’s episode segment
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of the Libertarian Party platform plank
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explanation segment thank you and you’re
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welcome now let’s let’s get right to it
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my guest tonight as I said is a literal
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scientist he is a graduate of Georgia
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Southern University and the youngest
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ever graduate of Mercer University
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School of Medicine’s biomedical sciences
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program this is impressive stuff folks
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and it’s so impressive I’m having
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difficulty saying it he did it and I’m
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having a hard time just producing it
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from my mouth he’s published in the
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European Journal of pharmacology
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neuroscience and behavioral ecology and
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social biology he is published in that
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that thing that’s he’s got published now
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unfortunately none of these were New
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York Times bestsellers so he’s not
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allowed to have his own podcast or be
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considered important to libertarians but
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all the same we want him on the show
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because he agreed to come on so my
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fellow Americans please welcome to the
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show the beautiful and brilliant mr.
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Jordan Loeb Jordan thank you so much for
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coming on the show thank you for having
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me I while you were giving that intro I
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actually looked up Chris Reynolds I do
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have his website in front of me if
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anyone coughs on you in the tampa area
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please call this man you may have a
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claim that’s perfect yes
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if anyone coughs or sneezes on you this
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man right here Chris Reynolds I don’t
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know how that this didn’t really help I
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don’t know if like this is not a good
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like just remember this look for this
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face it’s Chris personal injury attorney
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injury attorney Chris Reynolds that’s
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his page and I believe it’s Chris
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Reynolds law calm is that correct
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oh yeah yeah okay thank you that would
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be more helpful than than this that
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would be more helpful than hey look for
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this guy Google Chris Reynolds law he
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comes up first it’s fine okay good I
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don’t know what I was I mean I did I
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don’t know what this okay anyway so uh
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so yeah so Chris Reynolds law I am super
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excited to have you on this is gonna be
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a great match of wits and
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match of wits I mean that you are a PhD
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candidate and I barely made it out of
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high school so I’m looking for that
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beach guys be sure to comment with your
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questions and thoughts and Jordan I will
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tell you if you are right or wrong now
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Jordan this is your first time on the
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show welcome to the show so a lot of my
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viewers may not have heard of you as I
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said in my intro you are a scientist
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what made you decide to get into that
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field and because I am painfully
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explaining what you actually are maybe
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give us a little bit of a breakdown of
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what that means because literal
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scientists is probably not helping
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people anymore waving this around for
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Chris tell us what you’re doing and what
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got you into that okay so I am from a
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very very early age all I ever really
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wanted to be was a psychiatrist but the
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older I got in the closer I got to
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having to deal with things in medical
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school the more it became apparent that
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it it’s more important necessarily to go
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into drug development or treatment
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development that’s more than front lines
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it doesn’t really help you much if
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you’re the person handing out medication
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if the medication is not adequate to
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treat whatever is wrong right so I am
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and that’s not disrespecting two doctors
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but you know there’s there’s things that
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we don’t have a cure for and so let’s
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don’t go to the yeah yeah so you don’t
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really have the option of
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troubleshooting that on human patients
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so I went into more development of
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treatment and how underlying I’m a
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specifically a neuroscientist I’m a
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neurophysiologist with some
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neuropharmacology work thrown in but I
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work on how do how does the brain
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interact with the rest of the body to
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create a symptom of X Y Z condition
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right I don’t a lot of work on addiction
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depression anxiety related disorders so
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yeah
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cool that’s very cool so you focus more
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on like
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like for mature psychotropic Tripa drugs
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or the the publications that I have
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already out the one for the Journal of
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European pharmacology was on the
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habit-forming of the UH activity behind
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methamphetamine okay and specifically if
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you knock out part of the brain called
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the dorsal striatum and then within the
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dorsal striatum a subset of cells that
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are caught this referred to as the patch
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compartment whether or not that
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particular compartment is critical to
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habit formation or forming of preference
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so if you knock out that one particular
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part you don’t develop a preference for
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methamphetamine so we may have a target
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somewhere down the road of we’re going
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to treat this specific area for people
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who are addicted to methamphetamine as a
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way of breaking the habit so actually
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being able to break their whatever is
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happening physiologically in their brain
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that makes them even want to meth in the
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first place or whatever all right very
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very cool we already have a comment very
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complimentary comment here from Peter
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Simmons loving the cleavage JLo so
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that’s some getting some fan out Peter
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Peter is a very very old friend of mine
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I could I had a feeling I figured he
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either hated you or your good friends
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you know Peter you know this show I
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don’t know if you saw before but we we
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often have a lot of we have a lot of
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where is it we have a lot of cleavage
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here this is a cleavage heavy friendly
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show that we do here um so there we go
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yeah there we go
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so um okay cool so and in in honor of
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John hoodak and all of our previous
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appearances on podcast I just kind of oh
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you’re worried yeah I’m wearing a tank
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top underneath the head underneath this
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I’m wearing the tank top but I do have
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the rolled-up sleeves on the lab coat
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because I’m not gonna cut the sleeves
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off a lab coat but like I’m I’m John I’m
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here for you buddy I got you I love that
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that’s his thing like he’ll
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a very important like you know almost
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adversarial podcast and you know debate
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just showing the guns just like what you
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gonna do yeah that’s right yeah I called
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you a figure this period in what he does
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that one hundred percent of the time I
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swear to God when he finishes Law School
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he’s gonna go to court still wearing the
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same tank top that is so fun I’m just he
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will fight the DA to get his client off
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I love it if you like physically fight
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him he’ll do like the deal oh yeah I
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don’t chop the the you know a plank in
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front of them and be like your neck
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that’s funny
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so okay so you got into science do you
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think that your science influenced you
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becoming a libertarian or that your
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libertarianism influenced you becoming a
18:28
scientist or some third option that
18:30
isn’t going to make sense to me um I
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don’t think it had anything to do with
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the two didn’t really have much to do
18:37
with each other I was a scientist before
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I cared about politics and really the
18:42
only reason I cared about politics at
18:46
all was how it related to things not
18:48
immediately relevant to science right um
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I I don’t really think I started paying
18:54
attention to politics at all until my I
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think it was tenth or eleventh grade
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when I started taking AP US history and
19:02
a the US government and of all people
19:06
Mike Huckabee did a campaign rally in my
19:10
hometown and brought Chuck Norris to it
19:13
and I still don’t care at all about Mike
19:16
Huckabee but I was 15
19:18
bruh and I was already nursing my
19:20
crippling addiction to memes and I was
19:22
like Chuck Norris is here okay then that
19:25
was during like the peak of the Chuck
19:27
Norris memes right right right so I I
19:31
went to that for no other reason than to
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get my picture taken with Chuck Norris
19:34
which I got done but while I was at the
19:37
Mike Huckabee rally I met a bunch of
19:39
people from one of the local colleges
19:42
who were campaigning for Ron Paul and
19:45
they gave me a bunch of free books and I
19:48
read them and you know twelve years
19:51
later I’m here so here we are the old
19:56
Chuck Norris to libertarianism pipe
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that we oh yeah the pocket the pipeline
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of one the what no you know what you
20:04
probably are not the only one to be
20:06
brought in by the ignores and then I
20:08
mean no I mean it’s it’s not one of the
20:10
larger pipelines I’m sure there’s a bit
20:12
of a bottleneck but it does exist if
20:15
only because of you there is one even if
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it’s just an outlier pipeline it is the
20:20
one one or more people as many as one
20:23
people have been caught to
20:25
libertarianism by Chuck Norris that is
20:27
hilarious now speaking of questionable
20:29
libertarian entries you are also one of
20:33
the admins one of my favorite pages and
20:34
groups on on Facebook which is fake
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Rotarians tell us about why you got into
20:38
that and what what you’re doing over
20:40
there
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I actually I just started following the
20:44
page like everybody else because I
20:45
thought it was you know an interesting
20:47
page and it’s also I mean I don’t think
20:50
anybody’s been around libertarianism for
20:52
any period of time without noticing that
20:54
there’s a there’s a wide variety of
20:58
people who call themselves libertarians
20:59
but a lot of it has absolutely nothing
21:01
to do with um the way I’ve had to
21:04
explain it to some friends of mine who
21:06
aren’t libertarians and don’t care all
21:08
about politics they the way that one of
21:13
them explained it to me his name’s Taj
21:15
if he’s probably he’s probably also
21:16
watching this is Todd if you’re watching
21:17
comment something stupid the way he
21:21
explained it to me was that he thought
21:22
of libertarians as the people who are
21:27
more conservative than Republicans but
21:31
more racist than Republicans and even
21:33
regular Republicans wouldn’t talk about
21:35
it
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Oh Lord and I was like I I don’t think
21:38
that’s an accurate description but I
21:40
know exactly what you’re talking about
21:41
why why someone would say that yeah yeah
21:45
so yeah I I can’t defend I can’t be
21:49
angry at it for saying that is it go to
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go to anyone who has ever seen the
21:57
comments section on any reason article
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yeah or uh yeah it’s bad right yeah and
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so the fact that the Libertarian Party
22:06
took a pretty you know hard stance
22:09
against a lot of the stuff that Obama
22:10
was doing for the last you know
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for the last decade brought in a lot of
22:15
people who directly oppose Obama so
22:19
thought that they were libertarians yeah
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which it’s an that’s not it because you
22:24
you run the gamut from I don’t think
22:27
that this spending program is
22:29
sustainable and I do not support your
22:32
expansion of drone strikes to people who
22:35
thought he was the Antichrist and also a
22:37
fake Muslim from Kenya with a fake birth
22:40
certificate and his wife was actually a
22:42
band like that trying to trim that a
22:44
transwoman him yeah yeah I still agree
22:47
MIT that you run when you say you’re a
22:49
libertarian right and I understand why
22:54
people would be hesitant to call
22:55
themselves that I would also understand
22:57
that and I say that as someone who I
22:59
didn’t quite come in that way but
23:01
initially I was still I mean I was a
23:04
boarder terian for you know my first bit
23:06
of time being friendly with the
23:08
Libertarian Party and I was still that
23:10
very much that well you know the
23:11
Republicans are way better than the
23:12
Democrats you know the Republicans suck
23:14
too but you know there’s still way
23:16
better than the Democrat and it took me
23:17
a while they’re really actually because
23:19
people would say well what is
23:20
libertarianism and I’d start saying what
23:22
I believed and they say yeah but what is
23:24
that what libertarianism is founded on
23:26
I’m like yeah and then finally I
23:28
actually did some reading and I’m like
23:29
oh no oh and yeah and and that really
23:33
helped because then I thought okay well
23:35
do I believe this and I really delved
23:37
into it and it I thought I do believe
23:39
this and I now have some interesting
23:42
changes that might in my position in a
23:45
relatively short period of time so it’s
23:47
very it’s very interesting to see how
23:48
people help people get there so um
23:51
alright let’s get into this whole kovat
23:53
thing because that’s what everyone is
23:55
asking about we dedicated an entire we
23:58
decided last night on the muddy waters
24:00
of freedom to have a CO vid free show
24:02
for st. Patrick’s Day where we still
24:04
ended up talking about it we just kept
24:06
calling it the thing we don’t talk about
24:07
and it was just to have a break but the
24:09
reality is this is a very you know
24:11
important thing and we need to talk
24:13
about it now Jordan as we both know
24:14
kovat 19 the novel coronavirus
24:16
is literally less dangerous than h1n1
24:19
and no one even newer cared about that
24:21
ever because Barack Obama was president
24:23
and this whole thing is just a giant
24:25
hoax to make Donald Trump
24:27
look bad tell us why that is with
24:29
science go god you sound like my entire
24:34
family okay so so so obvious okay
24:36
obviously that’s nonsense covert 19 is
24:38
extremely serious right explain to this
24:40
why it’s serious because despite what
24:45
Ron Paul says about it it does actually
24:47
have a much higher rate of fatality than
24:53
the regular flu right and because we in
24:57
the United States lack a way of testing
25:00
for it currently the virus has a very
25:04
long incubation period before you come
25:05
from become symptomatic and it’s very
25:07
contagious so you could end up also
25:11
within that you have a set number of
25:13
people where if you are healthy you will
25:14
never even if you’re carrying the virus
25:15
you will not be symptomatic so even with
25:18
being asymptomatic you can still
25:19
transmit this virus and within a set
25:22
period of time you can transmit that
25:25
virus to enough people where one of them
25:27
will have some kind of problem or will
25:30
be able to transmit it to somebody else
25:32
who has the same kind of problem where
25:33
they have a weakened immune system or an
25:35
auto imply an autoimmune disorder or
25:37
maybe they have a young child or maybe
25:39
they have an elderly relative that they
25:42
come in contact with a lot where you’re
25:44
going to pass this on to everyone around
25:47
you if you’re not careful about it and
25:49
within passing around to everyone around
25:51
you one of them will get it and it will
25:54
actually be serious enough for them to
25:55
be hospitalized and then you go from
25:58
there but it’s it’s not anything to play
26:01
with right and and and this is not an
26:05
extinction level event situation like
26:07
we’re humanity’s going to survive this
26:09
this isn’t like even and so in the movie
26:11
Contagion I think the death the fatality
26:13
rate there was 20% so and again even
26:15
that was most people are gonna survive
26:16
but when you think of 20% of people
26:18
dying and quite a few of them getting
26:20
really sick it was it was like a
26:21
challenge you know that 10 years later
26:23
the world was still reeling from it this
26:25
is not going to be that but at least in
26:26
the short term there’s gonna be a big
26:27
problem now there’s been a lot of
26:29
misconceptions
26:41
and the fatality rate is they say ten
26:43
times higher than the flute let’s just
26:44
put it that number that’s still a lot of
26:46
people and people are comparing it to
26:50
you know you say that this many people
26:53
die in a year of car crashes this many
26:54
people died in a year of cancer this
26:56
many people died in a year of you know
26:58
household accidents whatever right but
27:01
those are usually like things that are
27:04
not if they are preventable like there’s
27:07
ways that you can prevent cancer but
27:09
you’re never gonna get all of them
27:10
you’re never gonna be able to prevent
27:11
one hundred cent of household accidents
27:13
you can’t transmit cancer to somebody
27:16
else
27:16
right um driving safely will prevent
27:19
most auto accidents but at the same time
27:21
you’re never gonna bring it down to zero
27:22
right but this is a case of we have the
27:26
ability to prevent it and it would be
27:28
irresponsible about to take some measure
27:30
in order to prevent it right and we also
27:34
have a situation so there’s been a lot
27:35
of talk about the fatality rate being
27:37
only 2% or only 3% and so you’ll hear
27:40
people say well let’s just all get it at
27:41
once and get it over with and then that
27:44
way it’ll be fine now you can explain
27:46
this later than I believe phantos had a
27:48
similar theory just different numbers on
27:51
it just snap your fingers and the two
27:53
percents gone but here’s the problem
27:55
with that and you can explain this
27:57
better than me so in South Korea the
28:01
fatality rate seems to be around 0.6%
28:04
making it about six times deadlier than
28:06
the flu still deadlier than than the flu
28:08
but ultimately fairly manageable whereas
28:11
right now in Italy I’m hearing numbers
28:12
as high as almost 10% so it’s it’s more
28:19
than that more than 15 times worse than
28:22
in South Korea and more than a hundred
28:25
times worse or roughly a hundred times
28:27
worse than the flu talk to us about why
28:30
there is such a wide disparity and why
28:33
it’s important how we respond to that
28:35
well it’s all in it’s all in preparation
28:38
for containment right if you look at
28:41
South Korea they were I guess more
28:44
prepared more ability they had more
28:46
ability to test for it and when you have
28:49
the ability to test for it you know who
28:50
to isolate the biggest problem with any
28:54
of these
28:54
brakes whatever they exist and we go
28:57
through this every few years when the
28:58
media creates a panic about a like
29:03
everybody remembers the bird flu
29:04
everybody remembers the swine flu
29:05
everybody remembers Ebola where they
29:09
talk about this horrible disease that
29:10
someone’s absolutely probably going to
29:12
die up but it’s under the context of
29:15
this disease is awful but they never
29:18
look at any of the details of the actual
29:22
contagiousness of the disease right so
29:25
Ebola is actually very very difficult to
29:29
transmit from person to person unless
29:31
you’re actually like a healthcare worker
29:33
right we’re consuming like Ebola unless
29:36
you’re a healthcare worker or you’re
29:37
consuming the bodily fluids by accident
29:39
for like a tainted water supply but the
29:40
Ebola is not a disease that in the
29:42
United States would spread rapidly right
29:43
because of the high hygienic sanitation
29:46
and stuff we have in place it wouldn’t
29:47
really spread yep
29:48
right but respiratory illness is spread
29:53
all the time right it’s just usually not
29:55
one that serious enough to hurt anything
29:56
anyone but we have something that is
29:59
it’s not really comparable to the flu
30:01
it’s a different kind of virus it’s not
30:04
like I’ve seen people make it everybody
30:05
goes back to the flu because it’s a it’s
30:07
something that makes you feel awful
30:09
makes you coffin a super contagious you
30:11
know but but they’re not the same kind
30:13
of virus they’re not directly comparable
30:16
in that way other than the fact that
30:17
they make you cough that’s about it yeah
30:20
but the the difference between different
30:23
places having you know different
30:26
effectiveness in their healthcare
30:28
treatments and in their you know
30:30
fatality rates it’s just how quickly
30:32
were they able to contain it and did
30:34
they prevent it from getting to the most
30:36
vulnerable populations fast enough
30:39
South Korea did a very good job of
30:41
containing it so that it did not spread
30:44
to young children and the elderly if you
30:48
look at the breakdown of who in Italy
30:51
has if you look at the fatality rates of
30:55
it the fatality rates are mostly in
30:57
older people or people who already had
30:59
some underlying health condition right
31:01
when people the elderly the young the
31:04
very very very young children and people
31:06
who have an underlying condition are
31:07
always
31:08
like the people that you’re trying to
31:09
keep safe this is why we are always
31:13
harping on please get your flu shots
31:15
don’t buy into the anti vaccine
31:17
propaganda we have to keep the
31:19
vaccination rates up in order to provide
31:22
herd immunity and contain the spread of
31:24
the virus or whatever other pathogen not
31:26
all of them are viral but you get points
31:28
right in this case it’s there was no
31:32
vaccine and the places that are doing
31:36
good or bad at maintaining the fatality
31:40
rates and keeping them low are the ones
31:42
who managed to contain the spread
31:44
quickly the biggest fear in the United
31:46
States right now is how long it took the
31:50
US government or any real-life or anyone
31:53
really anyone respond to what yeah to
31:55
respond to what this was you know
31:57
because we’re three three and a half
32:00
months into a pandemic we don’t even
32:03
have the ability to test for it in most
32:05
places we have no idea what the
32:06
infection rate is because how how do you
32:10
tell if you can’t test we don’t even
32:12
have the test and a big problem there is
32:14
like we have a couple of hospital
32:16
systems in the Myrtle Beach area that
32:17
are testing but presumably because they
32:20
don’t have a lot of tests the
32:21
pre-screening you have to go through is
32:23
ridiculous you have to already be so
32:25
sick that you require respiratory care
32:27
in a hospital to get the testing so for
32:31
example oh and you more than likely have
32:33
to tell them that you’ve been out of the
32:34
country for within the past 30 days or
32:36
that someone you’ve been in contact with
32:38
has been out of the country so which is
32:40
absurd and asinine considering we have
32:42
widespread community spread at this
32:44
point and they’re still asking people in
32:46
a hospital systems have you been out of
32:47
the country it doesn’t matter anymore
32:49
right this isn’t a foreign disease
32:51
anymore this is a a widespread disease
32:53
and we’re going to get more into the
32:53
testing thing in a second but because
32:56
we’re not containing it true or false
33:00
the the more people you have in a
33:04
hospital the higher fatality rate is
33:07
going to be because there’s just so many
33:09
people needing hospital care that there
33:11
just isn’t enough hospital care for it I
33:13
don’t think we’ve hit the point in the
33:15
United States yet where we’re going
33:17
we’re not seeing like rational rationing
33:20
of hell of beds and
33:22
hospitals we’re seeing that in Italy and
33:23
it’s like they’re already trying to come
33:25
up with like triage plans for what to do
33:28
with this many elderly people in these
33:30
hospitals we’re not seeing that the
33:31
United States yet so we I don’t think
33:36
that that is to the immediate worry just
33:38
yet okay the worry right now is still
33:41
containment who can like if we keep
33:46
everyone separate for long enough to see
33:48
who is symptomatic can we get these
33:50
tests out so that people can touch
33:52
testing themselves can we get everything
33:54
settled out and just see where is the
33:57
virus can we keep it there and prevent
34:00
it from going elsewhere that’s the
34:02
priority right now
34:03
the problem is that should have been the
34:05
priority in January from day one yeah
34:07
and yeah and it’s March we’ve had this
34:11
thing we’ve had this thing running out
34:14
in the wild in the United States the
34:16
first recorded case that was confirmed
34:19
in the United States was January 30th
34:21
and that well the the case report was
34:25
came out on January 30th if you look at
34:30
the amount of time that this thing has
34:32
had to go out and about in the
34:35
intervening period of time it could be
34:38
everywhere by now yeah
34:40
like them both of us just sitting here
34:42
hung dude we could both already have it
34:45
and just not exhibit symptoms or have
34:46
had it I I had I have to interrupt you
34:49
real quick I got really sick in February
34:52
at the New Hampshire primaries like a
34:54
couple days after I did the New
34:56
Hampshire primaries where there were
34:57
people from all over the world watching
34:58
the spectacle of the New Hampshire
34:59
primaries I got very sick I got so sick
35:03
I had to stay an extra couple days at
35:05
the hotel room cuz I was not going to be
35:07
able to you know get to travel back home
35:09
when I went to a doctor’s office and
35:12
this is in Boston where they already had
35:13
a come for just outside of Boston where
35:15
they already had a one country there was
35:17
one of the first like five or six
35:18
confirmed cases in the u.s. so I went to
35:20
the doctor I tested negative for the flu
35:22
they said it sounds like something worse
35:24
than a cold we’re gonna put you on
35:25
Tamiflu anyway and I said well is it
35:27
possible this is a corona virus and they
35:29
said it’s absolutely possible we have no
35:32
way of testing so we’re gonna simply
35:34
tell you to do
35:35
all the things that we would recommend
35:36
that you do whereas wear a surgical mask
35:39
when you’re out so you can’t spread it
35:40
tell it so it’s harder for you to spread
35:42
it to others stay in your hotel room you
35:44
know make sure you you you you clean and
35:46
sanitize everything you’ve touched and
35:48
be very careful for the next couple of
35:50
weeks
35:50
IIIi did you know I broke you know a lot
35:53
my fever and everything a lot a lot
35:55
faster and it might have been something
35:56
else but I’m also relatively healthy so
35:59
it’s there’s a good chance I got it
36:01
already have the immunity and I’m
36:02
sitting here you know in self quarantine
36:04
and could probably already maybe
36:06
possibly even be okay to go out but we
36:08
have no idea and it you know but so you
36:11
actually think that this is still
36:12
possibly something that’s containable
36:13
and not just mitigating and slowing the
36:16
spread you think this is still something
36:17
that we could actually put a halt to oh
36:19
no I think the decay at this point it’s
36:24
the like I said the first case that they
36:27
confirmed in the US was a guy who
36:31
reinterred the u.s. he’s a he’s a he
36:35
lives in Washington State
36:36
I had this case file in front of me I
36:38
don’t they they blacked out his name but
36:40
he returned to the United States from
36:42
China on January the 15th he went to I
36:46
don’t know which airport he came through
36:48
I don’t know what else he did in that
36:50
period of time but he came back from
36:53
China uh was coughing like it was not
36:58
coughing on the plane or while he was
37:00
traveling after he got home he started
37:02
coughing
37:03
he called for two days and then started
37:04
running a fever after running a fever
37:06
for three days he went to Urgent Care
37:08
where they admitted him to the hospital
37:09
and they tested him for Corona there
37:12
they had to come up with tests to give
37:14
him because they didn’t have their own
37:15
right all right even even though one
37:18
even though one exists the World Health
37:20
Organization already has one but that’s
37:22
not allowed here well well there are
37:24
several that exist
37:25
it’s just how there are several that
37:27
exist it’s just whether or not they’re
37:28
cleared for use in the United States
37:30
right here right yeah that’s it
37:33
that’s another we’re gonna get into that
37:36
we’re gonna get into that yeah yeah yeah
37:38
but from the first guy this is in
37:43
Washington near the Seattle area mm-hmm
37:45
that means that if he flew from
37:49
China that anybody who is in the same
37:51
Airport is him could have been exposed
37:54
definitely but he was on the same plane
37:56
you know anybody who you know he came in
37:59
contact when he went to work for the
38:00
next three days everybody was in the
38:02
hospital waiting room while he was
38:03
waiting to go into urgent care yeah um
38:06
anybody in that period of time could
38:09
have gone anywhere else and then anyone
38:11
that and then anyone that they if they
38:14
got if any of them got infected anyone
38:16
that they did any of those things with
38:18
in that time which is why this thing
38:20
doubles every three days because it’s
38:23
you know it’s not like the easiest thing
38:25
on earth to spread it’s conceivable that
38:27
someone that’s infected could touch
38:28
someone and as long as that’s person you
38:30
know wash themself afterwards or
38:31
whatever that they don’t get it but the
38:33
reality is when you have someone who’s
38:35
especially if they have any symptoms and
38:37
they’re sniffling sneezing whatever
38:38
they’re around a bunch of people there’s
38:39
this potential for exponential spread so
38:41
it’s I mean it’s anyway go ahead right
38:43
so that’s that was whichever airport he
38:47
went through that would be like you know
38:49
the initial and it’s just the first
38:52
confirmed case he might not even be the
38:53
first guy right he’s just the first one
38:55
that they showed on like that they
38:56
showed that he tested positive for it
38:58
after they gave him a battery of tests
39:00
which is interesting because it showed
39:02
up positive in like they did several
39:04
different tests on him to see if it
39:05
would show up weird thing is that it
39:07
would show up in the for in in just this
39:11
case so they’ve obviously there’s other
39:12
kinds of tests they can do but they were
39:15
doing blood throat swab nasal they took
39:20
stool samples urine says I would I see
39:22
everything that they can get from the
39:24
guy seemed right all right right it did
39:26
not show up in the blood test that they
39:27
gave him which is interesting but it did
39:30
show up in the nasal swab so that’s if
39:35
they don’t that’s just kind of
39:37
indicative that if they don’t have the
39:38
specific test that you’re needed to look
39:40
for here thinking this might not work
39:44
there could be there could be a lot of
39:46
false negatives happening right and even
39:50
if you know it’s even if it’s coming
39:53
back positive
39:55
if you look at the NBA players who have
39:58
tested positive for it only one of the
40:01
players in the NBA who tests
40:03
positive for it was symptomatic and he
40:05
just felt tired but Kevin Durant had it
40:09
and felt fine yeah apparently Tom Hanks
40:12
and eat yourself had it and they didn’t
40:14
feel sick
40:17
so it’s not about the healthy people
40:21
though it’s about preventing somebody
40:23
who like is sick with something else
40:25
from getting it which is why we’re all
40:27
doing this right exactly and so it’s a
40:31
real quick question for I go into the
40:33
testing thing what what do we know for
40:36
certain so you know when this first came
40:38
out and I looked up you know incubation
40:39
periods and they’re like well other
40:41
coronaviruses have an incubation period
40:43
of up to 14 days so we’re assuming that
40:45
this is the same and other things last
40:48
this long other coronaviruses lasts this
40:50
long on certain services do we know for
40:53
certain for example how long kovat 19
40:56
specifically lives on different types of
40:58
surfaces exactly how long the incubation
41:01
period is whether high heats can kill it
41:03
things like that or are we still flying
41:05
behind and comparing it to like SARS and
41:07
stuff like that we do know we do move
41:10
enough about it to say that like
41:13
disinfectants will kill it high heat
41:15
will kill it okay as far as like whether
41:19
or not antivirals
41:21
will slow down the progression of
41:23
symptoms I’m not sure right um like
41:25
settlement I’m a neurophysiologist I’m
41:27
not a biologist I’m not an immunologist
41:29
I just I took regular entry-level
41:32
classes on them but that’s right you
41:36
know we do know that compared to the
41:40
other viruses that are comparable with
41:42
karana viruses it does have some people
41:45
have said as low as 14 days incubation
41:49
some people have documented I believe as
41:52
high as 35 yeah yeah you now realize
41:59
them what kind of mess we’re in right
42:01
you’re telling people like oh you you
42:03
what you came back from at this point
42:05
anywhere and you’re not feeling well you
42:08
have to stay in your house for 35 days
42:10
and assume that you have that you have
42:12
but those are kind of outliers right
42:14
like my understanding is that the
42:15
average like
42:16
you know maybe one out of a thousand is
42:18
gonna be outside about 14 days but but
42:21
that it is possible oh it’s possible but
42:24
the thing is that we’ve we’re so far
42:27
behind the curve on this right now
42:29
because we’ve waited so long to do
42:31
anything about it that we’re now looking
42:34
at for example right now Florida Public
42:40
Schools we’re on spring break they sent
42:45
out the email a few weeks ago that
42:46
following spring break if you leave
42:48
whatever campus you’re on you cannot
42:52
come back to that campus for 14 days so
42:55
if you leave for Spring Break you cannot
42:58
come back to school for 14 days
43:00
following that 14-day period you can
43:04
come back if you’ve shown no symptoms
43:05
whatsoever which is means nothing and
43:08
then they when they change that to be
43:10
we’re not having classes anymore this
43:12
semester right you can come back in the
43:14
summer but everything that’s gonna be
43:16
online and that seems a bit much but if
43:23
we don’t have testing kits and we don’t
43:25
have any way of saying who has it is
43:27
asymptomatic or who has it and you know
43:32
it’s contagious or who doesn’t have it
43:34
or whatever right but we’re looking at
43:38
the real possibility that this virus
43:40
which was highly contagious was allowed
43:43
basically six weeks with no public
43:49
response to it
43:50
it could already be everywhere I assume
43:53
why this yeah yeah we’re and we’re at
43:56
the point now we’re like okay we’re
43:58
we’re in quarantine but we have no way
44:01
of knowing whether or not you’re sitting
44:05
in quarantine with other people who are
44:07
carrying the virus right right right
44:09
you know like for the lack of testing
44:14
kits is like the most egregious error
44:17
that we could have made here and until a
44:22
week ago the people who were you know in
44:25
charge of the federal government were
44:26
saying this was a hoax and there’s some
44:29
people saying it’s out there
44:30
we’re dogs yeah there are still people
44:33
saying oh yeah quick question so we’re
44:37
not doing testing clearly there are more
44:38
than I don’t know seven eight thousand
44:40
whatever it’s up to now how many orders
44:42
Amit cuz I’ll ask people how many more
44:44
do you think haven’t they’re like well
44:45
maybe two clear fifteen thousand now how
44:46
many orders of magnitude higher do you
44:50
think the number of actual cases is to
44:53
the confirmed cases oh man well here’s
44:57
the thing the the limiting factor of the
45:00
confirmed cases is not being determined
45:04
by the actual infection rate right we
45:06
have like like the late room the rate
45:10
limiting factor there is the number of
45:12
testing kits that we have available for
45:16
all we know at this point the virus
45:18
could be at higher than 50 percent
45:20
infection in the United States it could
45:23
also be at only like five percent are
45:25
you seeing 50 percent of the population
45:27
right yeah but that’s the thing it could
45:31
be as low as 1% or as high as 50 we have
45:34
no idea it’s not we can’t really even
45:36
speculate on it because from the limited
45:40
data that we have which is coming from a
45:42
limited number of available tests yeah
45:45
we have how many people have been tested
45:48
and we have how many people came back
45:49
positive right but the sample size for
45:52
that is so small compared to population
45:54
in the United States and only in
45:57
specific areas like for exists if you
46:00
live in Milledgeville Georgia Macon
46:03
Georgia or Warner Robins Georgia you
46:06
have to travel to Atlanta to get tested
46:10
so officially there’s only like four
46:13
confirmed cases in the state of Georgia
46:15
outside the city of Atlanta which that
46:17
doesn’t mean there are none there yeah
46:20
it just means that we haven’t been able
46:21
to find them because we don’t have to be
46:23
able to test for them so then you agree
46:25
with me that we’re looking at anywhere
46:27
from three to five orders of magnitude
46:29
higher
46:30
we’re not five because I’d be 800
46:32
million three we’re talking maybe three
46:34
or four orders of magnitude higher than
46:36
the number of confirmed cases like it’s
46:39
just beyond anything anywhere near what
46:42
we’re being told right
46:44
I don’t want to put a number on it okay
46:46
because base are based on the available
46:49
data it’s not really wise to speculate
46:52
like how many people would test positive
46:55
for it because you’re basing this on a
46:56
lot of you’re basing it on a lot of what
46:59
yes okay um and so I don’t want to I
47:02
don’t want to say anything that’s gonna
47:04
come back and be like oh he gave us this
47:06
this and this number my problem isn’t
47:09
necessarily that I have questions that I
47:12
have like complaints about the way that
47:14
the math is done my problem is that we
47:16
don’t have enough data to make accurate
47:19
projections to say well I’m out or not
47:20
video yeah we don’t have enough
47:23
information to say what the infection
47:26
rate is in the United States right now
47:27
because we can’t test for it right and
47:29
my biggest like the most egregious thing
47:32
that I’ve ever seen with this is that
47:34
just the lack of testing yep
47:36
because there there’s no excuse for how
47:38
long it took them to clear the tests for
47:41
this virus yep so let’s get into that
47:44
because it’s so because I’m not a
47:46
scientist and can make whatever off the
47:48
wall a hyperbole hyperbolic statements I
47:52
want I personally think we’re looking at
47:54
at least a million people to have it in
47:55
the US and I think that that’s a low
47:57
number I think we have zero concept of
47:59
just how many people have it when the
48:01
Ohio Department of Health said that
48:03
they’re going based on the assumption
48:04
that there are were a hundred thousand
48:06
people just in Ohio that had it and that
48:08
was like a week ago and that it was
48:10
doubling every three days that to me
48:12
said that we’re just not even in the
48:14
will have the realm of reality when
48:17
we’re looking at what our confirmed
48:18
numbers are what our what our actual
48:19
numbers are compared to gopher anyway so
48:21
let’s talk about the testing as per
48:24
usual
48:24
the government has utterly failed to
48:27
protect us and I have featured a story
48:30
about a woman a doctor on both the muddy
48:34
waters media and and and vermin spike
48:37
social media about a doctor by the name
48:39
of Helen Chu who was at the University
48:42
of Washington who I consider to be an
48:45
absolute hero who ultimately will be
48:48
responsible for saving the lives of
48:50
countless people Jordan tell us about
48:55
dr. chu and and and
48:57
actually what she did okay so dr. chu
49:01
the short version of this story and I
49:03
don’t wanna because it’s already been
49:05
posted I don’t know just like read this
49:06
article to your fan base but basically
49:09
she was testing people for the corona
49:13
virus in the middle of doing another
49:14
study which was on the flu in Seattle
49:17
area and even though she was not given
49:20
clearance or permission to run tests for
49:23
the corona virus she thought it would be
49:25
egregious if we just didn’t test for it
49:29
so she tested for it anyway and actually
49:31
found case of corona virus in Washington
49:33
and contained them so there’s been a lot
49:40
of back-and-forth complaints about the
49:41
FDA and the CEC and just a bunch of
49:45
different government agencies that have
49:46
just absolutely refused to deal with
49:51
this in a timely manner right to the
49:54
point where the the quote that I like so
50:00
much from doctor is from Alex Greninger
50:03
from University of Washington was that
50:07
the virus is moving somewhat is the
50:09
virus is faster than the FDA to the
50:13
point that the agency was requiring him
50:16
to submit materials in order to like
50:19
apply for testing they were making him
50:22
submit it through the mail and email
50:26
because they needed two forms of it and
50:29
they would not proceed without the
50:31
physical copy that was sent to them
50:33
through the mail so our response to
50:37
pandemic outbreaks that could and
50:39
already kind of has destabilized the
50:42
entire economy but could potentially
50:44
kill thousands of people was stalled
50:49
because someone had to send something
50:51
through regular mail because email of a
50:54
PDF was not good enough for a government
50:56
agency and everyone who keep in mind
50:59
like the people at CDC know at least as
51:04
well as Jordan and I know probably even
51:07
better what were face absolutely a
51:09
yeah the CDC in the NIH absolutely know
51:12
what’s coming the CDC and the NIH are
51:15
like as much as people inherently want
51:19
to mistrust the government so do I but
51:21
the CDC and the NIH are not on the the
51:24
scientific aspect of it is not operated
51:26
by government drones they’re operated by
51:28
scientists yeah and you can say whatever
51:30
you want about scientists that are you
51:34
know they’re subject to political
51:35
inclinations and biases like everybody
51:37
else of course of course
51:38
but they but they document their work if
51:41
you want to go in and see if there is a
51:43
bias you can look in their paperwork and
51:46
find it you can like no one’s ever
51:48
accused DNA of having a political
51:50
leaning you just have people who don’t
51:51
understand what DNA is trying to make
51:53
XYZ claim about it
51:54
that is not correct right if they’re
51:57
saying that the corona virus has you
52:00
know this infective rate has you know
52:04
this protein coat particle or has this
52:07
RNA sequence or whatever you want to say
52:09
about it they’re not making that up
52:11
right it weird of course and you can
52:13
look it up and whatever does and then
52:16
yet knowing intimately what it is we’re
52:19
facing and how dangerous is and how
52:21
fast-moving it is they still had to
52:24
operate within these confines of how
52:26
they would approve things cuz that’s how
52:28
it was written on a sheet of paper and
52:30
they’re just doing their jobs so there
52:32
was more than like we know nefarious
52:33
intent here it’s actually something
52:35
worse it’s just that that’s how it was
52:38
written up to do it’s not even
52:39
incompetence it’s like some kind of
52:41
Kafka esque nightmare where it’s like
52:43
yeah I know this thing is coming that
52:45
you know is going to kill millions or
52:48
hundreds of thousands of us if we don’t
52:50
move on it now but it says to here you
52:52
got you got to send it in the mail and
52:54
it’ll take three to five you know
52:55
business days for us to respond once we
52:57
get it that’s how it was how it was
53:00
written up to so Helen Chu you know to
53:02
put it in somewhat layman’s terms here
53:04
Helen Shu basically for all lack for
53:07
lack of a better word illegally was
53:08
testing people and so you know it’s not
53:11
you know
53:12
and when I say illegally she wasn’t you
53:14
know on the lam and saying catch me if
53:15
you can coppers it’s just she didn’t
53:17
have any relation to do so and so she
53:20
did it anyway because her Hippocratic
53:21
oath required to do it
53:23
and so she did it and it was because of
53:25
her and the actions of people like her
53:27
that we even knew anyone had it here and
53:30
it was that that actually correct me if
53:33
I’m wrong that actually put pressure on
53:35
the government to change their policy to
53:37
start allowing companies to begin at
53:40
least producing tests is that correct
53:42
it’s partially correct I don’t know all
53:46
the companies that have that have been
53:50
attempting to produce the tests right if
53:53
we said if I tried to give you a number
53:55
on how many companies are attempting to
53:56
manufacture chest right now
53:58
I would be making up a number I don’t I
53:59
don’t know okay um there there’s so many
54:02
different pharmaceutical companies and
54:03
different biotech companies that have
54:05
the ability to make the kind of tests
54:07
that would exist for this but how many
54:09
of them are currently doing so I’m not
54:11
sure right right but but but they would
54:14
say yeah I would say that her saying
54:18
publicly that the disease is already
54:22
here
54:22
we found it we’ve contained it but we’ve
54:25
we’ve got to do something now because
54:27
it’s already here we’ve you there’s
54:29
there’s the point of the easiest way to
54:33
prevent disasters to keep Pandora’s Box
54:35
closed and she’s just the first person
54:38
who pointed out well it’s open what do
54:39
we do right and it’s one of those where
54:46
there’s obviously reason why you would
54:50
want pharmaceutical companies and
54:51
biotech companies and whoever else is
54:53
making their tests or new drugs or
54:54
whatever they’re making to have it
54:56
tested and verified before you release
54:59
it to the public right right but we
55:01
should have been doing these kind of
55:02
things years ago right and we didn’t or
55:08
at least Mike or at least months ago
55:10
once it was out there or at least
55:12
allowing these other can writing tests
55:13
from other countries to come in so but
55:15
what did change policy-wise was that the
55:18
I from what I read the CDC went from
55:21
requiring that you get their
55:23
authorization before you start testing
55:25
too that you had to submit once you
55:28
started testing you had to submit within
55:29
15 or 30 days but you could already be
55:31
in testing or something like that so
55:33
there was some policy change that now
55:35
allowed for there to be tests
55:36
one of our commenters actually asked for
55:38
some clarification she said we are still
55:41
under a hundred confirm occasion
55:45
confirmed cases I think she means deaths
55:47
but she said and the actions being taken
55:49
or not foul no that was the wrong one um
55:54
we’ll talk about that in a second she
55:56
said so we have positive results popping
55:58
up everywhere for tests approve or not
55:59
tests are out there can you clarify that
56:01
some more because there would be
56:02
confusion and inaccurate to say tests
56:04
are not available when they are and many
56:06
more released and being shipped right
56:08
now but the problem is that the number
56:10
being shipped isn’t even remotely close
56:12
to what’s needed is that correct correct
56:14
the number being shipped and the number
56:17
that would have been needed weeks ago
56:20
was far too low so we needed to have all
56:24
the like the amount of focus is being
56:26
done this being shifted toward testing
56:28
right now and should have been done six
56:30
weeks ago when they confirmed that this
56:33
that they had a case in Washington in
56:36
January the 15th by January 30th there
56:42
should have been this level of testing
56:44
effort maybe not quarantines but more
56:46
testing because you have confirmation of
56:49
this virus on US soil going through at
56:52
least one Airport I don’t know because
56:54
he’s in Seattle I don’t know if you
56:55
change at LAX or whatever but run in at
56:57
least one airman were you had a patient
56:59
with this virus that was contagious who
57:02
did not show symptoms until after he had
57:05
gone home and gone to work for a few
57:07
days it’s this period of time later we
57:10
are still working with a critically low
57:13
number of tests that are available and
57:16
from the numbers that we have from the
57:18
tests available it’s not enough to print
57:20
on to make concrete projections about
57:23
what the infection rate is in the United
57:25
States right it’s and it’s that’s that’s
57:30
the biggest thing for it right now is
57:32
that we don’t even know who has it and
57:34
if we had figured out earlier in the
57:37
process who has it where have they been
57:41
how long has it been incubated
57:43
everything else then it wouldn’t be
57:45
necessary to quarantine it would be
57:47
necessary to go through this much
57:48
trouble if we
57:49
tested like a few people in the Seattle
57:52
area
57:53
the day after he was admitted to the
57:55
hospital right and said that day
57:59
everybody who you know has been in an
58:02
airport or has you know had contact with
58:04
people who were traveling medias he’s
58:05
from China or whatever go get tested
58:08
right now we wouldn’t be in this mess
58:11
right but if I remember correctly there
58:14
is a story
58:15
we’re in Oklahoma they tested the entire
58:18
staff of the Oklahoma of the Oklahoma
58:21
City Thunder and that was all of the
58:23
tests that they had in the state of
58:25
Oklahoma
58:25
for that time period so they tested a
58:30
basketball team and the people who
58:32
travel with them and that was all that
58:34
they tested in those was a for that day
58:37
yeah and I mean I’m not I’m not mad at
58:42
like whoever was you know on that team
58:45
for getting tested but like why did we
58:47
only have 50 tests right it’s not- more
58:50
than a million people yeah it’s not it’s
58:51
not who got tested it’s why were there
58:53
that few in the first place and then and
58:54
then another question from the this the
58:56
same person which this is a
58:57
misconception that we need to clear up I
58:59
said we are still under 100 he said
59:01
cases but I think she means death
59:02
confirmed deaths and the actions being
59:04
taken are not fast enough yet thousands
59:06
died with past pandemics and zero was
59:09
done the economy went on and nothing
59:11
shut down why is that explained that’s
59:14
not that’s not true thank you
59:17
the simple way of explaining that is
59:19
that this used to be I mean if you look
59:22
at let’s say the Spanish flu or anything
59:26
any other past pandemic that had a
59:28
mortality rate that was above like the
59:31
regular like the annual flu were half
59:33
now right there was regular economic
59:37
setback associated with losing this many
59:40
people every year yeah with you know the
59:44
fact that you’re losing this many
59:46
children out of elementary schools every
59:48
year that and are not economic oh they
59:52
didn’t shut down you know name of
59:55
business is currently shut down it
59:57
didn’t shut it down when we had the
59:58
Spanish flu or they didn’t shut it down
60:00
when we had polio or they did show that
60:01
we had whatever else
60:04
the economy went on is um and a lot of
60:10
people died it’s just that we don’t look
60:12
back on those pandemics as oh this
60:14
caused the Great Depression it’s like no
60:16
people were just accustomed to you know
60:19
high infant mortality rates are high
60:21
childhood mortality rates a lower life
60:24
expectancy and a lower standard of
60:27
living overall it wasn’t that there was
60:29
a giant setbacks that never happened
60:30
before uh no it was it was a Poe who
60:34
were used to losing one out of every
60:35
five children that was born so you know
60:38
if another one out of five children died
60:40
after that they were more adjusted to
60:42
that we’re not used to that level of
60:44
death and mayhem is just a regular thing
60:46
also something I need to add to this if
60:50
you look at a 2% death rate which in
60:53
Italy is much higher because of the
60:54
strain that they have on their hospital
60:56
system if 2% of Americans died that’s
61:01
seven that’s almost seven million people
61:04
if 10 percent of them died that’s 32
61:07
million people 12,000 people died of
61:11
h1n1 around 60,000 people died of the
61:14
flu we are talking several not just
61:16
several times but adding extra one night
61:19
when we say orders of magnitude that’s
61:20
how many zeros you add to the end we’re
61:22
talking several more zeros added to the
61:25
end of the sheer number of people dying
61:27
and that’s before you factor in if 20%
61:29
of Americans require emergency
61:32
respiratory care in a hospital when
61:35
maybe one out of 10,000 could get it at
61:38
the same time without putting a strain
61:39
on the system this gives you an idea of
61:42
the kind of apocalyptic scenario that
61:45
you know people are trying to avoid
61:46
which the government imposed upon us but
61:49
the idea that this is some kind of
61:50
overreaction is the exact opposite we
61:53
are under reacting to what this is what
61:57
we under reacted already right I don’t
61:59
know that for instance they’re saying
62:03
that we may be on under this kind of
62:06
quarantine for 18 months that is an
62:08
overreaction that is entirely too early
62:11
to speculate about something that’s
62:12
gonna lie that would be yes based on
62:14
this yeah yeah I’ve seen that number
62:16
thrown
62:17
that is a that is a nonsense number if
62:21
we’re still doing this in 18 months that
62:22
is ridiculous and that the corporate
62:24
kind of failure of course the the under
62:26
reaction that we had is not what we’re
62:28
doing now is what we did in January we
62:30
under reaction horribly in January we
62:33
under acted horribly for the entire
62:35
month of February and for basically the
62:37
first half of March because until about
62:40
the time that the NBA shut down and
62:42
Donald Trump was in the room with the
62:44
vice president of Brazil who popped
62:45
positive for it this was fake right this
62:48
was a democratic hoax to tank the stock
62:51
market and had absolutely nothing to do
62:53
with Donald Trump yelling at the Federal
62:55
Reserve for five years not knowing what
62:57
inflation is until drop interest rates
62:59
but I mean we our government agencies
63:05
are essentially headed by a guy who took
63:07
out a Sharpie to adjust the projections
63:11
of a hurricane because he mentioned has
63:13
made it yeah because he made a typo in a
63:15
tweet that’s who’s in charge of whether
63:18
or not our country can test for
63:20
pandemics all right at a time it’s not a
63:24
guy who in 2018 by the way this is kind
63:28
of going back a little bit but it goes
63:29
back to like the the overall issue here
63:32
in 2018 the head of the CDC resigned her
63:38
name was Brenda Fitzgerald she was the
63:42
director of the CDC she resigned because
63:45
uh she had been hiding the fact that she
63:49
purchased stock in tobacco companies but
63:55
that’s the kind of like political
63:58
influence that our government has into
64:02
our health care system so she was the
64:05
head of the CDC and was was was invested
64:09
in tobacco companies correct yeah
64:12
so that’s a load of that was that that’s
64:14
a little bit of the de bellas dealing
64:15
there yeah yeah that was the Department
64:18
of Health and Human Services let that
64:20
happen like that was something that they
64:23
just accepted and it wasn’t until it
64:26
leaked to the media that she owned stock
64:28
in tobacco companies that she resigned
64:33
like that’s that’s our political
64:36
influence into medicine in the United
64:38
States yep
64:39
it’s which is why as libertarians we
64:42
believe that removing the political
64:44
influence on on health care the best way
64:46
to do that is to have it as a market
64:49
action as opposed to you know it have it
64:52
as an a political action based on the
64:56
supply and demand as opposed to based on
64:58
what a politician wants to try to get
65:00
reelected on in in in what is
65:02
unfortunately an election year because
65:04
that couldn’t possibly make it even more
65:06
partisan and terrible so something we’re
65:09
gonna we’re gonna bring up so because of
65:11
that failure and continued failure
65:15
we now have widespread bands on
65:18
gatherings of as few as 10 people in
65:21
some states as sort of I guess an
65:24
overcorrection to the fact that we have
65:26
no clue who was infected so you can
65:28
argue that it isn’t even an
65:29
overcorrection but it’s saying a major
65:31
correction from major move in the
65:33
opposite direction from the you know
65:36
that oh who knows who has it um so we’re
65:39
something just assuming everyone has I
65:41
would say that it I would say it’s far
65:43
too early to say that’s an
65:44
overcorrection if it’s a sea-change know
65:47
who has it
65:48
right uh but it is some it is absolutely
65:52
something that we could have avoided if
65:54
we had acted appropriately at an earlier
65:57
stage but we did right so I don’t want
66:00
it I don’t want to say that what we’re
66:01
doing now is an overreaction because
66:04
it’s too early to say whether that’s an
66:05
overreaction right um because if you
66:07
look at if you look at the information
66:12
being released and you look at what the
66:13
people who make these decision are
66:15
actually doing themselves there’s a
66:18
reason that I’m the only person in this
66:20
building right now the faculties at home
66:22
you know I’m I’m here because if you
66:26
have experiments that work on animals
66:28
you have to check in on them but the the
66:32
majority of people who work for medical
66:36
schools non-essential hospital personnel
66:40
the people who work for like you know
66:43
research
66:44
these biotech companies whatever if you
66:47
can work from home they’re doing it too
66:50
right exactly so there’s some debate
66:54
there’s not really much debate that
66:56
self-quarantine en social distancing
66:59
really flattened this thing and helped
67:01
it contain it or at least mitigate it
67:03
there is some debate as to whether the
67:05
bans on on on you know on on gatherings
67:09
and things like that how effective those
67:11
are I saw a model where they showed that
67:13
the the travel bans that were put in
67:16
place within China weren’t actually that
67:17
effective because it caused people to
67:19
panic and get out of places and travel
67:21
even more than they would have so it’s
67:22
arguable whether that works or not with
67:24
that being said you know I tend to think
67:26
that people would be a lot people be a
67:28
lot better off if we would just simply
67:30
realize what we’re facing and make smart
67:33
choices regardless of what governments
67:35
telling us if they’re telling us to do
67:36
this and it happens to be a good idea
67:38
then we do it because it was a good idea
67:39
if government says do this and it’s not
67:41
a good idea then we don’t do it if
67:42
government says you don’t have to do
67:44
this but we find out it’s a good idea do
67:45
it like do it because it’s a good idea
67:46
don’t worry about what government saying
67:48
now something that Stephen Biggs one of
67:50
our one of our follower one of our
67:51
viewers brought up is you know he gets
67:53
the the benefits of quarantine but he’s
67:56
curious you know he of our thoughts on
67:57
the economic impact of this you know
68:00
this reality that we’re telling people
68:02
to stay away from each other and not
68:03
work during a time that the Fed is
68:05
cutting reserve requirements to zero so
68:09
banks don’t have to have any any any
68:10
money in the bank right at a time when
68:13
people are having to dip into whatever
68:14
money they might have in the pink to pay
68:17
you know pay their bills and pay for
68:18
basic goods and services that is going
68:22
to lead to a run on the banks
68:23
this just kind of underscores yet
68:25
another reason over and above just
68:27
avoiding deaths why we need to try to
68:30
contain this by testing for it the
68:33
moment we know it’s here right the the
68:38
it’s really really hard to like to talk
68:43
about the mitigating factors of like how
68:45
do you avoid the disaster when you’ve
68:48
already lit the fuse you’re just wait
68:49
like the fuses between 14 and 30 days
68:53
long we don’t even know what the effect
68:55
is going to be yet
68:58
and we won’t know for a while so we’re
69:05
right at the folks were riding this one
69:06
out because the way to avoid this was to
69:09
never be in this situation exactly and
69:11
we had and we’re not getting out of it
69:15
we’re riding this knocking this out
69:17
there’s no way there’s no way out no way
69:19
around this was not yes we can do right
69:22
now is to encourage whoever is producing
69:28
these tests to do so effectively right
69:33
and quickly and distribute them rapidly
69:37
know and go from there
69:39
but companies until very recently
69:43
weren’t even allowed to distribute the
69:45
tests and it’s actually from it’s from
69:49
the same New York Times article that you
69:52
would post it earlier with dr. chu with
69:54
dr. too
69:55
yeah so this is just an image from that
69:58
article new test gives me require
69:59
validation running a test unknown
70:01
positive samples from a from a patient
70:03
or a copy of the virus genome the FDA’s
70:05
process calls for five obtaining such
70:08
samples have been hard because most
70:10
hospital labs have not seen the karela
70:12
virus at time of publication so they
70:17
didn’t even have the ability they had to
70:19
have five different positive tests
70:21
before ever seeing the virus in order to
70:25
validate the test couldn’t we have done
70:27
that in a lab like six months ago I didn
70:30
t have samples of this virus flows into
70:32
the freezer somewhere because corona
70:34
virus is not new it’s the strain of it
70:36
that came out this year that’s you know
70:38
that’s very quickly but this is not we
70:42
could have tested for this in a lab and
70:43
had these tests out and about with
70:46
plenty of time to go I know that there’s
70:48
thousands of viruses out there that like
70:50
haven’t you know been exposed to
70:51
humanity yet so there’s reasons there’s
70:54
legitimate reasons why these tests may
70:55
not exist and that’s fine
70:56
but once you know as they new in January
71:01
that this existed you have to go that
71:05
day your job starts right then you have
71:08
to move on this and in
71:11
February it was fake in early March it
71:14
was fake
71:15
yeah until until the NBA pronounced and
71:19
billion dollar through st. started
71:21
saying of course the private sector
71:23
responds faster of course but the NBA
71:27
independent of the government said this
71:29
is fake we’re not new like new this is
71:31
real this is not faith this is a real
71:33
life this is not a democratic hoax yeah
71:35
yeah yeah and this is a danger to our
71:38
employees and our customers first you
71:41
continue operating in this manner we’re
71:43
shutting down you know and it wasn’t
71:45
until after the NBA did that and after
71:48
major league baseball did that and a few
71:51
other sports started doing that and then
71:55
the government took notice
71:56
yeah it shouldn’t take Adam silver to
71:59
convince the CDC to act right right so
72:04
for my Trump supporting followers out
72:06
there first of all um freedom no I
72:09
actually quite a few way I up I have a
72:11
very large Trump supporting contingent I
72:13
invited my viewing my I’m not sure what
72:16
pipeline I’m creating here but it’s a
72:18
scary one because I have viewers across
72:20
the political spectrum and I love all of
72:21
them I need you guys to consider the
72:23
possibility that the reason that Italy
72:27
and South Korea and China and and Iran
72:30
and the US and Canada and an increasing
72:33
number of countries are dealing with a
72:34
health care crisis and seeing their
72:36
hospitals fill up with sick and dying
72:38
people that they don’t have enough
72:40
resources to treat I need you to
72:41
consider the possibility that that isn’t
72:43
happening as some kind of scam to make
72:46
Donald Trump look bad prior to the
72:48
election like I I just I I would like
72:51
you to consider that possibility that
72:53
this has nothing to do with whether or
72:55
not Donald Trump gets reelected in
72:58
November that this is maybe a thing
73:00
that’s actually happening to people I
73:02
lovingly encourage that so yeah the the
73:05
Iranian sanctions are really helping out
73:09
with their ability to treat and anyway
73:11
that’s really you know yeah I mean
73:13
that’s that’s a that’s definitely not
73:16
cruel and unusual or just you know
73:19
intentionally kicking somebody while
73:21
they’re down because you don’t like them
73:23
yep exactly
73:24
no that’s
73:25
I mean shout-out to him in the yeah
73:27
shoutout to Yemen yeah Yemen’s getting
73:28
all the the materials they need they’re
73:31
just exploding um so anyway so of course
73:36
we’re still not doing widespread testing
73:38
so as we know I’m gonna make a lot of
73:41
fans on this show there is a that by the
73:43
way this show is usually a lot more
73:44
funny than this easily more humorous
73:46
show but this is a why don’t you make my
73:55
dammit why don’t you make it the
73:56
pandemic funny or Jordan Kahn um so as
73:59
we know there is a fairly sizable group
74:03
in the u.s. many of them in libertarian
74:05
circles but really across the spectrum
74:06
who say that they are prepared for
74:09
everything from economic collapse to
74:11
nuclear war to a foreign invasion at the
74:13
Boogaloo to that thing that happened in
74:17
revolution where the power stopped
74:18
working forever and everything in
74:20
between they are ready for anything that
74:22
that happens many of these people are
74:24
currently having an extremely difficult
74:26
time with the fact that they can’t
74:27
attend football games temporarily do you
74:29
have any thoughts on that phenomenon uh
74:34
as someone who lives in a hurricane
74:36
solid and I know that you do too because
74:38
you look at Myrtle Beach right oh yeah
74:39
as someone who lives in a hurricane zone
74:42
on a regular basis I am prepared just
74:46
because they tell everybody who lives in
74:48
hurricane zones have a set amount of
74:51
supplies that will ask you for about a
74:52
month if you lose water if you lose
74:55
power and if you lose the ability to
74:58
leave your home like if something
75:00
happens to your car you just can’t go
75:02
anywhere which have been assertive
75:03
people yeah the number of people who
75:06
were not prepared apparently to leave
75:08
their own bathrooms horrifies me on like
75:11
a visceral level it was just it’s
75:14
disturbing for me to see like not even
75:18
anything that has like happened yet but
75:21
people bought stores out of essential
75:24
supplies because apparently one they
75:27
didn’t have them they didn’t have it in
75:29
two they thought they thought that this
75:31
is the thing that you whored know but
75:33
like it’s
75:35
I know it’s anecdotal data but whatever
75:37
my local public
75:38
the canned food aisle is fine not here
75:43
the the water bottle and toilet paper
75:46
aisles are empty people do not know how
75:50
to prepare for disaster at all because
75:52
it like and it would be different if
75:56
like dysentery was the outbreak but
76:00
right but but what of all the things
76:05
that you’re gonna decide that you’re
76:06
gonna stock up on why is toilet paper
76:07
name a household of three people uses 50
76:11
rolls of toilet paper in two months some
76:14
of you all have a lot of toilet paper I
76:16
don’t know what you think is gonna be
76:17
coming out when you run out of food
76:19
because like it’s like rice and canned
76:23
foods imagine a scenario and you’re
76:25
right Jordan a lot of people right now
76:26
are not used to the idea of a semi
76:28
apocalyptic event that could affect them
76:30
for weeks like we are imagine but I live
76:34
in Florida we have power outages at last
76:37
for weeks at a time sometimes along with
76:41
you know 300 mile per hour winds or
76:43
whatever it was that hit us last year
76:45
braver and and nobody other than the
76:48
people who like get hit in that initial
76:50
you know the brunt of the storm you
76:54
don’t hear about people you know dying
76:57
of exposure in the months following a
76:59
hurricane right whereas people are
77:01
prepared for it right how do people
77:03
nationwide not know hey buy food that’s
77:06
not gonna go bad if we leave the house
77:07
buy food that’s not gonna go bad if the
77:10
power plant shuts down for a period of a
77:12
few weeks because there’s a there’s an
77:14
outbreak there and they have to sanitize
77:15
it or something like I don’t think we’re
77:17
gonna end up in a in a Stone Age
77:19
situation where we don’t have power or
77:20
water for months at a time or anything
77:22
like that but we could have brownouts we
77:24
could have blackouts we could have
77:25
temporary situations where there is no
77:27
power or whatever you got you know all
77:29
that all the freaking hot dogs you went
77:30
out and bought and stacked in the fridge
77:31
aren’t gonna be good after a couple days
77:34
because you know or a few days if you
77:36
keep the fridge closed which probably
77:38
won’t you probably be panicking all the
77:39
time uh uh you know that the possibility
77:42
that you’re going to be living on like
77:43
canned goods and and you know a propane
77:44
heater and propane a cooker and you know
77:49
like ways to cook your food without
77:51
power
77:52
that’s in a sustainable way not just you
77:54
know camping once but like eating that
77:55
way for weeks maybe or earliest days um
77:58
I was shocked by just the sheer number
78:00
of people who apparently didn’t have any
78:02
soap like what have you like mm-hmm
78:05
don’t wait people I’ve saw people what
78:07
do you mean I have to wash my hands five
78:09
times a day and I’m like you haven’t
78:10
been washing your hands five times a day
78:12
like it’s just right have it how many
78:14
times it deserves me when those two
78:17
things work together one that people
78:19
apparently need this much toilet paper
78:20
right and this is a necessary thing and
78:23
also that they don’t need that much soap
78:26
like what is your life like that you
78:29
have this much toilet paper and don’t
78:31
wash your hands what are you doing what
78:33
are you doing like it’s at this point
78:36
I’m just surprised that we haven’t all
78:37
died of hepatitis before now certainly
78:39
people don’t know how indoor plumbing
78:41
works it’s it’s crazy
78:42
Adam Kara Bochy says no need to go crazy
78:45
over water stock get a water filter
78:47
that’s true and ideal situations Adams
78:48
but we we here me and Jordan I don’t
78:52
know where you live Adam but we we often
78:55
sometimes once a year deal with the
78:58
situations in which we either don’t have
79:00
water because you know because you know
79:03
everything is off the grid is off or uh
79:06
because of flooding now that that’s not
79:08
gonna affect us in this situation
79:09
necessarily but because of flooding the
79:11
water is no good you can’t have it that
79:12
the water tables risen to the point
79:14
where you know it’s infected so so no
79:17
you kind of do need at least some
79:18
bottled water in this case right no
79:20
that’s that’s less likely obviously I’m
79:23
less likely it’s less likely in this
79:25
situation that we’re gonna have like
79:27
massive blackouts all right a loss of
79:30
water quality or whatever yeah I can say
79:32
that from I have family that works for
79:35
the Power Company and they were for
79:37
Georgia Power where they’re sending
79:39
people out to like restore power lines
79:41
that like just regular occasions a tree
79:43
will fall down over a neighborhood
79:46
they’re sending two-man crews to repair
79:49
it because they don’t want more than
79:51
five people together at a time right so
79:54
it’s more like snow mounds of stuff like
79:55
if you lose your power you might instead
79:57
of not having it for a few hours it
79:59
might be two or three days that you
80:00
don’t have it but it’s not like this
80:02
widespread yeah yeah in this case it’s
80:05
like a few ow
80:06
but it’s a few hours instead of like you
80:08
know we’ll have it back on in 15 minutes
80:10
it’s right right okay we’ll have it
80:12
we’ll have it you know back on quickly
80:14
but we’re gonna have it back on quickly
80:15
with a two or three man crew instead of
80:17
a five or six man crew or whatever they
80:19
normally run we’re just trying to keep
80:20
their numbers look right and so that’s
80:23
just the number of people who claim that
80:26
they’re prepared for everything who
80:27
immediately either didn’t react or
80:30
completely lost their minds when this
80:33
happened I don’t have any faith in our
80:35
survival abilities if something bad
80:38
kicks off in a hurry yeah it might be
80:42
our saving grace that this has a low you
80:45
know a long incubation period because
80:47
god help us if all of this hit at once
80:49
if we all just got sick immediately then
80:51
it would be like ah yeah no that’s a
80:53
good point so it’s kind of it kind of
80:55
spares us from our own human nature that
80:57
we might it might even be 30 days that
81:00
it takes for some of us to get it and
81:01
most of us aren’t even gonna even though
81:02
it means it’s gonna spread way more the
81:04
idea of like even 10% of us just give
81:06
really getting sick real quickly might
81:08
scare the crap out of everyone even more
81:09
it’s it’s a brightening thing man like I
81:12
mean I have people who straight up are
81:13
like you know they’re ready for freaking
81:14
nuclear winter but man what do you mean
81:17
I can’t go to the bar and it’s like guys
81:19
like right what did you think I was
81:23
gonna be open during nuclear winter yeah
81:26
like did you think that you know the
81:28
NFL’s still gonna be gone like I don’t
81:30
care how good the Braves are if the
81:32
bombs drop the Braves aren’t playing
81:33
like this is not like I don’t Florida
81:38
State was a top five team right we were
81:42
going like we won the ACC and but not
81:46
even having the tournament if people are
81:47
so angry about that and we’re just kind
81:48
of sitting in a medical school going
81:50
like what are you doing we’re trained
81:52
why is this why is this your problem
81:55
right now oh and what really made a
81:57
matter so I’ve been telling people
81:58
listen you know we want you to not die
82:00
and here are the things we’d like you to
82:01
do I made the mistake of telling people
82:03
that you know maybe your kids and pets
82:05
aren’t thrilled to have you home all day
82:06
either and they got even more angry
82:08
about that than about the dying thing
82:10
like how dare you assert that my pets
82:13
don’t want me around them all the time
82:14
my pets don’t need personal space anyway
82:16
so so I want to talk about
82:19
we do currently have some drugs there
82:22
are currently some drugs for HIV and I
82:24
believe Ebola that may there’s been some
82:27
anecdotal evidence that seems to have
82:29
some promise in treating kovat 19 you
82:31
just said there was just something that
82:32
came up to be using para right right
82:36
okay so one of the earlier announcements
82:38
today and granted I don’t want to like
82:40
there’s so much information coming out
82:43
about this every day that I don’t want
82:44
to give like any solid numbers or a
82:47
solid like this is the new development
82:50
and then we find out tomorrow that it
82:51
you know is not true
82:53
but I can say that about an hour before
82:56
we went on and then earlier today there
83:02
were announcements from I believe the
83:05
World Health Organization about which
83:07
drugs you can use to treat the symptoms
83:09
of koban 19 okay
83:11
the original statements were that for
83:17
whatever reason anti-inflammatory drugs
83:19
such as ibuprofen were not recommended
83:24
because the nature of the
83:25
anti-inflammatory drugs could aggravate
83:28
the infection and they were recommending
83:31
acetaminophen instead of ibuprofen but
83:38
telling people to be very careful with
83:40
the use of acetaminophen because if you
83:42
take too much of it it can cause liver
83:43
problems and other like related things
83:46
the problem is that anything that gets
83:48
posted on the internet now it’s just a
83:51
media source reposting a government
83:54
agency which is supposedly citing some
83:59
scientist whose only study that came out
84:01
right right right right so this was so
84:05
okay so they’re saying stay away from NS
84:07
aids and focus on acetaminophen
84:09
even though usually they tell you to
84:10
alternate between them to avoid too much
84:13
damage to a specific organ because one
84:15
works through one organ and one filters
84:17
through the other so they I know when I
84:19
had the flu they said alternate between
84:20
tylenol which is acetaminophen and
84:22
ibuprofen which is died before fit um
84:24
right so what is the other one Paris you
84:28
were saying pear or something but that’s
84:29
still symptom ology trip that’s still
84:31
symptomatic treatment that’s not
84:32
actually treating the
84:33
right see that’s the thing there’s of
84:36
back-and-forth sources saying whether or
84:39
not to use ibuprofen right depending on
84:42
like I’m looking at this is I’ve just
84:45
got my laptop open from me channel 4.com
84:48
which is from the UK I believe right
84:51
yeah BBC four yeah yeah so this is
84:54
saying that the release came from France
84:59
which was the original source saying not
85:00
to use ibuprofen but the BBC channel 4
85:05
is saying that we’ve seen lurid fake
85:08
messages circulating about the supposed
85:10
dangers of people with coronavirus
85:11
symptoms taking anti-inflammatory drugs
85:14
like ibuprofen these scare stories are
85:16
not true and doctors say that there are
85:18
good reasons to prefer acetaminophen to
85:21
ibuprofen the latest
85:22
NHS advices there’s no strong evidence
85:24
ibuprofen worsens the symptoms of code
85:26
19 but recommend that people take
85:30
acetaminophen Paris
85:32
well paracetamol which is another word
85:34
for it advil and okay so is known so
85:37
paracetamol is just another word for
85:39
acetaminophen yeah it’s okay okay okay
85:42
the the brands are tylenol matpat fever
85:47
all tell the fin off our bed at all and
85:51
you know it’s yeah just the different
85:55
brands of this over-the-counter pain
85:57
reliever which you might be taking to
85:59
treat symptoms of coronavirus there’s
86:02
bet like every time something comes out
86:05
about like what possible thing should be
86:07
done you know there’s an immediately a
86:10
conflicting media story saying that
86:12
either this is a hoax or that this is
86:14
true within the media stories just argue
86:17
over each other so and I know people are
86:21
taking this stuff as gospel running to
86:22
the store and buying all of the
86:23
acetaminophen on the shelf like right
86:25
right right right and this is like this
86:28
is saying that like it came from a news
86:31
story from France which was contradicted
86:34
by the NHS and Great Britain and came to
86:38
the US and people are arguing over like
86:42
whether or not this source or this
86:44
source is correct about whether or not
86:46
to take ibuprofen
86:47
for the symptoms of coronavirus keeping
86:50
in mind that you could have a cough and
86:54
a headache without being positive for
86:57
the coronavirus because it’s also
86:59
allergy season it’s allergy season in
87:01
it’s flu and cold season I’ve been
87:03
having stuffy throat and stuff and I
87:04
keep checking myself for fever and have
87:06
none so I’m pretty sure it’s just like a
87:08
you know a sinus thing or whatever and I
87:10
went to the doctor and she said yeah
87:11
there’s no redness you’re not you’re not
87:13
sick sick you’re just dealing with 80%
87:15
of people are walking around it’s it’s
87:17
yellow outside like we’re in the deep
87:18
side it’s freaking yellow outside the
87:22
first day of the supposed you know
87:24
social isolation quarantine I walked
87:26
outside and my car was breathe if I
87:29
gonna close this down so there’s there’s
87:32
that much pollen in the air of course
87:33
people are coughing and have runny noses
87:35
and watery eyes or whatever else it’s
87:37
because like there’s other things it
87:39
could be and so people are like there’s
87:42
always the freak out of like this is a
87:44
disease this is what other people think
87:46
the disease is they’re usually some
87:48
discrepancy between those two things
87:50
where and then there’s what people do in
87:52
like a knee-jerk reaction to thinking
87:54
that they have the disease correct which
87:56
is by everything that they might
87:59
possibly ever need regardless of whether
88:01
or not we’re going to need it they’d all
88:02
of Italy ever know what they need and
88:04
buy all of it buy all of it on the shelf
88:06
not just like I mean so I went out and
88:09
got some extra acetaminophen and extra
88:10
ibuprofen I got to 180 or 204 whatever
88:14
the big thing I got two of those that
88:16
should cover us for a couple months if
88:17
we all got sick so people like clearing
88:20
the shelves I’m like what like you have
88:22
20 people living at home you think this
88:24
is gonna last a decade like what what
88:26
are you preparing for and why is there
88:28
no rice in your car sir like you know
88:30
like what if we per se are you gonna
88:32
trade this for rice with other people in
88:34
this new Barger society when our
88:35
economic system collapsed like what
88:37
precisely are you doing here so okay so
88:39
there are some treatments that have come
88:41
out that might potentially actually
88:43
reduce the intensity sort of like a
88:46
Tamiflu Fork Ovid so there’s like a HIV
88:49
drug and an Ebola drug it’s way too
88:50
early to know if those are effective but
88:52
with right to try laws and other
88:54
countries that don’t even have such a
88:55
thing you can just use it we’re gonna
88:57
find out soon enough of those work we
88:58
also potentially have a vaccine
89:01
that or many vaccines that are being
89:03
worked on that could be ready for wide
89:05
distribution within the next year to 18
89:07
months here’s my question I am NOT an
89:10
anti-vaxxer I don’t care I’m probably
89:14
already mildly on the spectrum anyway so
89:16
if this helped push me over to I’m not
89:17
worried about that
89:18
like seriously um so but but would that
89:22
said how confident are you in having
89:25
basically every non infected person on
89:28
earth injected with a vaccine that could
89:31
that would have basically just been
89:33
fresh out of clinical trials do these
89:35
kinds of vaccines typically have like a
89:37
safe enough safety profile that we’re
89:39
confident and giving almost everyone on
89:42
earth a shot of something that we don’t
89:46
have 20 years of studies to show if it’s
89:48
safe or not well it depends on what kind
89:51
of whether or not it’s going to be I
89:54
don’t know what kind of viruses or
89:56
whether or not they’re using like a live
89:57
virus or attenuated virus or dead virus
89:59
or whether or not they’re using viral
90:00
coat proteins I don’t know if covin 19 I
90:04
don’t know the the mutation rate so for
90:07
instance the flu the flu we have the
90:10
same basic formula that comes out every
90:12
year and they’ve just changed the
90:14
strains of the flu that they’re
90:16
vaccinating for in that strain or in
90:19
that shot hmm
90:20
they take the top three or four
90:21
whichever the most common strains that
90:23
they think based on projection of the
90:24
previous year put that in the vaccine
90:26
and that’s the vaccine that goes out for
90:28
distribution and then the effectiveness
90:30
rate based on you know immunity people
90:32
to those strains is various year-to-year
90:36
it’s obviously not 100 affected because
90:37
the vaccine is based on three strains
90:40
and there’s so many strains the flu you
90:42
can’t get them all right right um with
90:45
the corona virus I don’t think we know
90:49
the mutation rate yet I don’t think we
90:51
know if somebody knows I don’t I’m not
90:54
going to speculate on something I’m not
90:55
gonna give you an answer that I don’t
90:56
know for sure I’m not gonna have this
90:58
light you know I’m not gonna but if it’s
91:01
the only thing that they’re changing is
91:03
from previous vaccines is like the viral
91:07
coat protein that is within the vaccine
91:09
that is being sent out then the same
91:12
ingredients would in theory be used to
91:14
treat that
91:15
the same flu shot that comes out I say
91:17
the same a different flu shot comes out
91:20
every year with the same materials the
91:23
same ingredients the same set list of
91:25
stuff that’s in it every year with a
91:28
different strain that is targeted by
91:31
that vaccine barring severe autoimmune
91:36
cases or giving the vaccine to a person
91:39
who’s already immunocompromised things
91:41
like that we’ve never seen other than
91:44
like you could have a contaminated batch
91:46
sometimes but I mean the vaccines are
91:49
not going to be the problem here the
91:50
problem presented mostly is that we
91:54
don’t know we don’t have that vaccine
91:56
yet we don’t know the the efficacy of
91:58
the vaccine so even if we have one that
92:00
produced that it’s safe we don’t know
92:01
the success rate of it we don’t know how
92:04
fast this particular strain of Kovach 19
92:06
is going to or that we don’t know how
92:08
fast this particular vaccine is going to
92:10
have to be updated right so we have to
92:12
update the flu every year if or how long
92:15
the immunity would or how long the
92:16
immunity would be because that’s another
92:17
question like right because we also have
92:20
to have for certain vaccines we have to
92:22
have a you know every decade we have to
92:24
have a booster or we have to have you
92:26
know a you know a series of shots like
92:28
we have to do for some of the hepatitis
92:31
vaccine so the MMR is or whatever my my
92:35
biggest concern with the vaccines is not
92:39
even that there won’t be one that will
92:41
be developed that will be effective and
92:42
safe and whatever else because we will
92:45
get that we will eventually I don’t know
92:47
how many trials going to take I don’t
92:48
know which company’s going to do it but
92:49
we’ll get one the thing that scared me
92:52
the most about the vaccines is that the
92:55
United States government tried to go to
92:56
companies and ask for exclusive rights
92:59
to vaccines that horrifies me on every
93:04
level and if that doesn’t scare you it
93:06
should because that means that you have
93:08
not ever paid attention to what the
93:10
United States government does when
93:12
they’re the only person in the world
93:13
that owns something and then tries to
93:15
charge for use of it yeah what is the
93:17
functional purpose that they then charge
93:19
other countries for or that they deny it
93:21
to countries that politically they don’t
93:23
like I’m I mean we’re already doing that
93:26
do i right that’s what I’m saying is
93:27
this truly
93:28
just to like make sure everyone in Iran
93:30
dies cuz screw them I mean is that like
93:32
what this is about I think because from
93:36
the it was from a German company yeah
93:40
that reported this to the to the
93:43
government within within Germany that
93:45
representatives a United States
93:46
government said that they were trying to
93:48
buy the exclusive rights to the vaccine
93:50
so that it would be used only within the
93:54
United States and of course well two
93:59
things one that’s incredibly incredibly
94:03
stupid to ask of a German research
94:07
company like hey I know that you’re
94:11
making this thing that prevents this
94:13
horrible disease can I give you money
94:15
and you’re not allowed to give it your
94:16
kids just asking for a friend
94:20
you know just whatever it’s bad enough
94:22
to ask an American company that but yeah
94:24
it’s like you can’t give this to your
94:26
kids or your friends or neighbors just
94:27
us right so that’s that’s a problem but
94:34
also the idea that somebody within the
94:37
United States government and I don’t
94:39
know I don’t know who gave the order for
94:42
that but it sounds familiar yeah it
94:45
doesn’t sound like it doesn’t sound like
94:47
something that came from like for
94:49
example a like rationally thinking at
94:52
all who sees any real functional purpose
94:55
to the US having exclusive use of a drug
94:58
whose purpose is to create herd immunity
95:00
so it doesn’t just endlessly spread
95:02
around the world that sounds like the
95:04
actions of oh I don’t know a man-child
95:06
who doesn’t really think through their
95:08
actions in any real way but just wants
95:10
it for me because it’s I’m I’m the best
95:13
well it sounds like this is pure
95:16
speculation of course if I were
95:19
constantly talking about how good I was
95:21
at trade deals and I had something that
95:26
prevents mass casualty yeah and I wanted
95:30
a negotiating chip
95:33
no that might come up that that’s just
95:38
me speculating but then but like you
95:42
said the idea of who would actually
95:43
participate in this idea that you give
95:46
them a certain amount of money and their
95:49
kids are still susceptible to it like
95:51
it’s a real level hutzpah to even
95:53
suggest that kind of a trade right it’s
95:57
it’s I’m not saying the person who had
96:00
this plan was smart but I’m not bad yeah
96:06
okay so then you’re out so then you’re
96:08
not willing to to because I said I’d be
96:10
lying if I said the idea of injecting
96:12
everyone who hadn’t gotten stick with
96:14
something that has been around awhile
96:15
didn’t scare me a little you you’re not
96:17
that’s not something that concerns you
96:19
in terms of safety these things are
96:20
usually pretty safe in terms of side
96:21
effects and stuff it’s more just how
96:23
effective it’s going to be in the first
96:24
place
96:25
right basically anyone who and they ask
96:28
you this when you get a flu shot or they
96:30
should
96:30
there are known risks to taking vaccines
96:34
which is why certain people can’t get
96:35
them they come people with autoimmune
96:37
disorders they tell people who are kids
96:40
who are too young to receive them people
96:42
who are you know undergoing other
96:44
medical treatments all right you know I
96:46
have very similar type one diabetes
96:48
multiple sclerosis
96:50
Sjogren’s syndrome fibromyalgia things
96:53
like that right can’t have these
96:54
vaccines because you can’t give someone
96:57
who’s already got a basically
96:59
overclocked immune system something
97:02
that’s going to ramp up their immune
97:03
system more right um so I so I have I
97:07
have MS and I take a immunomodulator for
97:11
it they don’t call it an
97:13
immunosuppressant even though it does
97:14
mildly suppress my immune system but not
97:16
enough for them to call it one or
97:17
whatever but it does change the profile
97:19
of my immune system and as a result of
97:21
that they tell me not to get the the the
97:26
live vaccine where you don’t have to get
97:28
an infection you don’t have to get
97:29
injected you you take it through your
97:31
nose or something so it’s a lot easier
97:32
they say if I’m gonna get a flu shot
97:34
then get the actual shot because that’s
97:36
the dead vaccine that there is some
97:38
possibility that I could actually get
97:40
the flu or have some kind of reaction to
97:42
the live vaccine um because of my
97:45
situation which is the reason why
97:47
they try to do herd immunity for people
97:48
like me in the case of me specifically I
97:51
can take the flu shot but there may be
97:53
other ones I can’t take and for example
97:55
someone who’s on chemotherapy with their
97:58
immune system yeah yeah I can’t take any
98:00
of them because their immune system shot
98:02
my immune system I went to to a
98:04
libertarian party convention in Georgia
98:06
that was one of the few people there
98:07
that didn’t get sick
98:08
turns out it’s because no one washes
98:10
their hands but me but that’s a whole
98:11
other subject apparently we’ve
98:13
discovered that no one want apparently
98:15
no one washes their hands but regardless
98:16
my immune system was strong enough for
98:17
me to be able to be around people and
98:19
not get sick even though they did but
98:20
someone on chemo they can’t do any of
98:23
that and they can’t take any of these
98:24
vaccines so the whole point is you know
98:26
muhurtam unity make sure that there’s as
98:29
many people that are immune to reduce
98:31
the risk of them getting it from you
98:33
know from someone else right and there’s
98:36
also I mean you’re gonna get being anti
98:39
vaccine it’s not a partisan issue it’s
98:41
not a left-right thing they have
98:42
different reasons for opposing it but I
98:44
mean it’s none of those reasons are
98:46
scientifically based right like people
98:48
one of the reasons one of these I’ve
98:50
asked if you’re getting the flu shot
98:51
they ask if you’re allergic to eggs or
98:53
chicken it’s because the flu shot is
98:56
cultured in chicken eggs oh really
98:58
so I can’t hide it then I’m allergic to
99:01
eggs have you had they never at low
99:04
depends on which string or which company
99:06
they’re ordering the vaccine from some
99:07
of them are culture to chicken eggs so
99:09
the last few years that I’ve gotten a
99:11
flu shot one of the questions that they
99:12
asked me before giving me the shot was
99:14
are you allergic to eggs and that was
99:18
one of things that they told us in our
99:19
immunology classes is that some of these
99:20
vaccines are cultured in chicken eggs
99:22
because you have to like they’re using
99:26
enzymes and just other different ends of
99:28
proteins from chicken or from the
99:30
chicken eggs to make the proteins which
99:32
are consistent in the vaccines which
99:35
aliens that explains how I got autism
99:37
there but yeah I’m less worried about
99:48
the side effects of vaccination they’re
99:52
very few they’re very minimal um there
99:55
are occasionally people who like
99:58
especially as young children who don’t
100:00
know
100:01
that they have an autoimmune disorder or
100:03
don’t know that they have because who’s
100:05
going to test a three-year-old or a
100:07
five-year-old for a relatively obscure
100:09
autoimmune disorder before you give them
100:11
their shots to go to kindergarten or
100:13
pre-k so if it’s a one in five thousand
100:16
shot you’re you’re not gonna ask that
100:20
you most you don’t even know to ask the
100:22
question before they get their kids
100:23
vaccines right all right and it’s gonna
100:26
be even if it’s one in five thousand
100:28
that’s still far less risk than actually
100:29
just letting them get covin and and get
100:31
sick from that so whatever it is it’s
100:33
gonna be I was thinking about measles
100:34
but yes basically that because we’ve had
100:38
measles outbreaks recently they just
100:40
weren’t like this widespread because
100:43
there is a vaccine for measles and most
100:45
people still take it it’s really one of
100:48
the interesting questions in the next
100:50
few years is going to be like how this
100:51
affects people’s opinions of health care
100:54
you know because if this is people are
100:57
finally getting to see like this is what
100:59
happens when you let something let this
101:02
kind of virus go unchecked yeah it’s
101:05
gonna be interesting to see whether or
101:07
not it you know inspires people to look
101:09
into actual medical sources about
101:12
vaccinations and read them thoroughly or
101:14
whether or not it turns people more
101:17
hardcore into all of this as a
101:20
government conspiracy because we get
101:21
quarantine for three months and I didn’t
101:22
even call one time right and it’s gonna
101:25
be interesting to see those two things
101:26
play out yeah I mean listen honestly the
101:29
whole time you’re talking I’m just
101:30
thinking this is the chemtrails talking
101:32
and I’m very sad for you I’m extremely
101:35
sad for you you know it’s sad that you
101:36
had such a young age you’ve already
101:38
you’re you’re frogs are already gay and
101:40
there’s no yeah I’m making the flow I’m
101:42
making the fluoride face the entire time
101:44
you’re making I’m sure it’s so like
101:45
there’s it’s you were talking about the
101:47
ants right the fluoride face so your
101:49
mates oh the animals you have those are
101:50
all gay frogs correct oh no those are
101:54
just well I have gay frogs because
101:55
they’re just a pet the animals that I
101:57
have here are actually just laboratory
101:58
animals that we maintain for the sake of
102:00
you know continuing our our regular work
102:03
with in medical research facilities
102:05
right so maintain as in convert to
102:08
homosexuality well most of them yes i we
102:12
have a few that we have a hybrid one
102:14
that we’re
102:14
that’s also trying to like the Katrina
102:18
no well I mean we don’t have enough
102:23
vaccines to do that yes now if you get
102:27
the GMO diet with the vaccine that might
102:30
be GMO fluoride vaccines and chemtrails
102:33
then you end up with you know with
102:36
gender dysphoria in a rat that makes
102:39
sense so okay speaking of judge speaking
102:41
I knew it you don’t know us a third a
102:48
third of my audience right now has
102:50
already put on the tinfoil just in case
102:53
just in case yeah
102:55
so speaking of drugs and treatments as
102:57
libertarians we already believe the war
102:59
on drugs is wrong it puts people in
103:00
cages for buying selling and using
103:03
substances in their own bodies it gives
103:05
people criminal records even though they
103:06
didn’t actually harm anyone else it
103:08
ruins their lives it drives the drug
103:11
market into the black market into the
103:13
criminal element which makes both the
103:15
the product and the suppliers more
103:17
dangerous it makes everything worse it
103:20
provides it gives government a way to
103:23
secretly and illegally fund their
103:25
clandestine intelligence operations
103:28
there’s nothing good about it in any
103:30
real way it drives racial divides it
103:32
enforces stereotype there’s nothing good
103:35
about the war on drugs something we
103:37
don’t talk about a lot and which you are
103:39
very familiar with is the fact that the
103:42
the war on drugs also makes it harder
103:44
for us for you I’m sitting in my guest
103:46
room I’m I’m not doing anything but it
103:49
makes it harder for you to find
103:52
treatments for illnesses tell us about
103:53
that
103:54
okay so we’ve obviously seen in the past
103:58
few years despite you know the
104:01
conspiracies at marijuana cures cancer
104:02
it doesn’t don’t don’t don’t get carried
104:05
away with this
104:06
but they’re more a yeah right but there
104:11
are plenty of examples of useful
104:14
treatments for drugs that have been
104:15
deemed illegal that we don’t actually
104:19
know that much about because it’s been
104:20
illegal to do these kinds of work using
104:23
them for this long there’s also within
104:28
drugs that are legal they’re not
104:30
accepted as legal use for other topics
104:33
for marijuana to be obviously being the
104:36
biggest one because it’s getting more
104:38
and more cleared on a state-by-state
104:39
level as legal for either medicinal or
104:42
recreational right um but that’s 50
104:48
years behind the curve right yeah like
104:52
not to mention you know the usefulness
104:54
of like CBD oil for you know fighting
104:57
inflammation or fighting you know people
105:00
who have seizure disorders or whatever
105:02
we could have had all of this decades
105:04
ago right and we just opted not to
105:07
because the government decided that it
105:12
was going to base policy on propagated
105:14
false so it’s about these substances
105:18
which even if they were exactly as
105:20
dangerous as they say they are which
105:23
they’re they’re not don’t even if they
105:25
were exactly as dangerous as all of the
105:27
made up stories about marijuana said it
105:28
was they still had no right to tell you
105:31
that you couldn’t do it to yourself no
105:33
or that you couldn’t at least use it to
105:35
test to see if it’s if it’s medicinal
105:36
listen we all know heroines terrible
105:39
right like we know you shouldn’t do
105:41
heroin like heroin has a nearly 100%
105:43
rate of bad things happening to you
105:45
until you eventually stop using it
105:47
whether it’s because you died or because
105:49
you got clean but we still let you know
105:52
opioids get tested for treatments and
105:54
things like that we still let cocaine
105:56
tested for treatments marijuana has the
105:59
highest level of control on it which
106:01
means you can’t use it for it you can’t
106:03
test you can use LSD you can use
106:06
whatever it is that’s in the mushrooms
106:08
you can use all this as psilocybin thank
106:10
you yes I have some you can use all of
106:13
this stuff but not weed and now I say
106:16
this is someone I am a 14-year clean
106:19
drug addict I don’t smoke weed I don’t
106:21
drink alcohol even I don’t do any of the
106:24
hard stuff I don’t even do like when
106:26
they want to give you hydrocodone and
106:28
after like when you even syrup’ when you
106:30
feel sick I don’t do any of that stuff
106:31
so this isn’t my personal layer I’m
106:33
gonna get high man like it’s not that
106:34
it’s that first of all it’s no one’s
106:36
business but second law it’s actually
106:37
making it harder for you as a scientist
106:41
to find ways
106:43
to treat us with you know with with
106:46
something that could be far let have far
106:47
less side effects that could be cheaper
106:50
and more widespread that could actually
106:52
make things better so that we don’t have
106:53
for example oh I don’t know
106:55
hypothetically an opioid crisis where
106:57
people who need higher and higher levels
106:59
of opioids to deal with chronic pain
107:00
issues end up because of restrictions on
107:03
them being able to use it they end up
107:04
returning to you know black tar heroin
107:06
because because they can get it or you
107:09
know getting their pills illegally by
107:12
someone else who’s getting them and then
107:13
selling them rather than maybe I don’t
107:15
know smoking a joint or taking something
107:17
that synthesized you know THC or or you
107:20
know eating eating you know taking a
107:22
pill that’s you know concentrated THC or
107:24
something like that I was gonna say the
107:27
I don’t know many people who have taken
107:31
both for pain i I’ve never taken I’ve
107:34
never taken opioids and I haven’t smoked
107:37
marijuana for a very long time Peter if
107:39
you’re still watching I still hate you
107:42
but if you’ve ever compared to anyone
107:44
who’s taking opioids for pain versus
107:49
taking opioids for recreation right you
107:53
don’t just start taking like you don’t
107:56
start at heroin right well that’s not
107:58
like you’ve never there’s no there’s
108:00
never been in any case that we have ever
108:02
seen where a person went from I have
108:04
nothing going on in my life that would
108:06
cause me any kind of problem actually
108:07
take some day I was bored and I had
108:10
black tar heroin just laying around so I
108:12
said my right that’s never a man that if
108:15
you ever once happened right no one has
108:17
ever started taking crystal meth like
108:20
that’s not it doesn’t happen no it’s
108:23
never been anyone’s introduction to
108:25
drugs is they just decided today that
108:27
they’re gonna start smoking meth right
108:29
that’s not how so it’s either it’s
108:32
either an introduction through like
108:35
they’re self-medicating or they’re
108:37
experimenting with drugs when they’re a
108:39
teenager in college because that’s what
108:40
everyone does right it so if someone is
108:44
addicted to opioids they either went
108:52
down a series of other black market
108:53
drugs that led them to either pills
108:56
heroin or whatever that they’re getting
108:57
illegally or they had some kind of
109:01
prescription for opioids that they lost
109:05
control of and they’re now addicted to
109:09
pills and whether or not they can can
109:11
you get it to get these pills is whether
109:13
or not they can is whether or not they
109:15
turn to the black market or either go to
109:17
rehab right right and there’s a huge
109:21
stigma in the United States and in most
109:23
of the world about being addicted to a
109:25
given substance or a given activity or
109:28
whatever and I understand why that
109:32
exists because we stigmatize it so bad
109:34
but it doesn’t it does not make sense
109:37
and healthy that we looked at that we
109:39
look down on addicts the way that we do
109:41
yeah it still is we don’t and like
109:45
especially when they like there’s this
109:48
massive massive issue with people
109:51
admitting that they’re an addict because
109:55
somehow admitting it makes it worse to
109:57
some Hempel yeah so it’s one of those
110:01
we’ve caused this problem ourselves but
110:04
when you look at what did making these
110:11
drugs what did making it turn to the
110:12
black market actually accomplished what
110:14
did the war on drugs do effectively it
110:18
created a giant it created a giant
110:20
government boondoggle of the you know
110:22
the whole prison industrial complex it
110:24
created all sorts of you know ways for
110:26
you know crony as’ to make money by
110:29
building prisons and building stuff for
110:31
these ever militarizing police state
110:33
that we live under it basically did a
110:35
bunch of horrible things it gave Richard
110:37
Nixon a way to – instead of attack his
110:40
opponents as hippies and black people he
110:43
got to attack them as cocaine and
110:45
marijuana fiends and addicts and throw
110:48
them in prison and give them charges so
110:50
that they couldn’t engage in the
110:51
political process they couldn’t vote or
110:53
or you know I mean did a lot of them
110:55
were in jail so they can do anything but
110:56
even once they were out they couldn’t
110:57
vote that continued through the Reagan
111:03
and Bush Senior and Bush junior and
111:07
employment continuing now you
111:10
and we’re just sitting here accepting it
111:13
as if this like as if these
111:15
misconceptions about the drugs
111:17
themselves the people who use them are
111:19
based on reality when they’re not but
111:22
you’re also looking at whether or not
111:24
the the drugs themselves could be used
111:27
in clinical settings as something useful
111:30
you know and we’re just not even we’re
111:33
not looking into like even if you’re
111:36
looking into it’s like sudden they say
111:38
that MDMA is being used for treatment of
111:40
PTSD anxiety regression yep
111:42
so our psilocybin which you know
111:45
mushrooms
111:47
there’s people within the facility that
111:51
I work for the test ketamine
111:53
as a treatment for depression yep no I
111:54
have a friend I have a friend who gets
111:56
ketamine infusions every however many
111:58
weeks and it changed her life mm-hmm
112:01
like she’s okay today but ketamine is
112:08
legal to use on animals and it’s legal
112:10
to use in people as an anesthetic like
112:13
if you’re going under for surgery like I
112:14
was given ketamine when I had my wisdom
112:15
teeth taken out okay as part of a larger
112:17
cocktail of stuff that you know they
112:18
gave you but not weed and but until
112:22
recently ketamine was not FDA approved
112:27
to treat depression it was already
112:30
available for humans to take you can go
112:34
to a doctor and they can give you
112:35
ketamine but if you say that you’re
112:38
taking it for depression it changes how
112:41
the government assigns like value to
112:45
this drug and that is patently absurd
112:49
whether the drug is going to like it
112:52
whether or not you’re using it to like
112:53
treat depression or using it to like be
112:59
put unconscious to have your wisdom
113:00
teeth taken out was treated the same
113:03
right but like its treated the same by
113:08
the body but the government sees it as
113:10
different things right because the
113:11
government sees it as different things
113:13
insurance companies see it as different
113:16
things mm-hmm which is why your friend
113:19
who is getting the IV infusions of
113:21
ketamine did they ever mention a
113:23
price for that well I do know that it’s
113:26
not covered by insurance she’s paying
113:27
out of pocket that I do know the number
113:31
probably has a comma in it monthly
113:33
treatment she can and she can afford it
113:35
and she’s talked about that how it’s not
113:36
cheap but it she’ll do it because it
113:38
absolutely changed her life
113:39
but the reason of that cost is because
113:41
they will put you in a cage over whether
113:44
you’re using it for a body ouchie
113:46
or an emotional ouchie like it really it
113:49
even though you know a now she’s and now
113:52
she’s guys like I mean you know putting
113:56
aside though even if she wanted to use
113:57
it to have fun for the weekend you know
113:59
it’s not something I think is a great
114:01
idea but it’s her body it’s really it’s
114:03
really not a great idea it’s a terrible
114:06
idea it’s a terrible idea
114:07
really sure if you’re taking it but if
114:10
you’re taking it because to even get
114:13
cleared for a ketamine clinical trial
114:15
you have to have treatment resistant
114:17
depression they will not give it to you
114:19
unless you are considered treatment
114:20
resistant to get to ketamine you have to
114:24
have taken at least two other
114:26
antidepressants and had no effect
114:28
I had no Center out of relief right
114:31
which means that you were depressed for
114:34
a period of time you decided that you
114:37
were depressed enough to go to a doctor
114:38
the doctor gave you one drug whatever it
114:42
was you took it for a period of at least
114:47
a few months probably it didn’t work you
114:50
probably went back to the doctor and
114:52
they and they’re up the dose of it or
114:54
gave you something else right at this
114:56
point you’ve probably been depressed for
114:58
about six months it’s minimal yeah
115:01
following that that you go back and say
115:04
even with a higher dose it doesn’t work
115:05
they put you on a different kind of drug
115:07
right right different kind of drug for
115:10
about three months that’s still doesn’t
115:12
work they up the dose then so now you’re
115:16
looking at you’ve been depressed enough
115:18
to talk to a doctor about it for six
115:19
months to a year with no improvement
115:23
right people do this for decades you
115:26
know and just live with it you know
115:28
ketamine works and in the patients that
115:31
it works and I’m not saying that
115:32
ketamine is like a panacea for
115:34
depression I’m not sure everyone who’s
115:36
ever taken it then everyone’s ever
115:37
enemy immediately got better on average
115:40
in the for people with
115:42
treatment-resistant depression ketamine
115:44
works in less than an hour they’ve been
115:49
dealing with that for months and years
115:51
they’ve been dealing with this for years
115:52
sometimes decades they get it and and
115:56
she described it that way she’s like I
115:57
took it I was very nervous the first
115:59
time because you here it’s this
116:00
potentially dangerous drug and they
116:02
explained how you know there was people
116:04
there if anything happened and that you
116:05
know I would be safe and whatever and I
116:07
was worried I was worried and all of a
116:09
sudden everything was okay and has been
116:12
since then there’s a reason that it’s
116:18
lasts there’s a reason that ketamine is
116:20
the last thing that you get absolutely
116:22
because this but also there’s no reason
116:26
for it to be treated the way that it is
116:30
like there’s no reason for it to cost
116:33
the nasal spray they got approved by the
116:36
FDA
116:36
so the nasal spray is approved for
116:39
depression right and to get the nasal
116:43
spray you have to go to a registered
116:45
clinic and have a nurse give it to you
116:48
you’re not allowed to self administer
116:49
ketamine which is probably for them for
116:52
the people who manufacture ketamine the
116:53
people who distribute it that’s a good
116:54
rule it’s gonna say for liability
116:56
purposes probably yeah yeah yeah like if
116:59
there was if you’re talking about like a
117:01
no and I’m a capitalist like dreamland
117:03
where there’s no government involvement
117:05
whatsoever having a doctor and a nurse
117:08
who are trained to administer ketamine
117:10
give you the ketamine it’s still a good
117:12
idea of course it’s not something this
117:14
is not something you want people to self
117:15
administer whatever they want it because
117:18
ketamine can be addictive yeah you can
117:20
hallucinate on it if you mix it with
117:22
alcohol horrible things are gonna happen
117:24
to you but there’s no reason for the
117:29
nasal spray and the IV to be treated
117:34
that much differently than just whatever
117:36
else you’re gonna use ketamine for just
117:37
because it’s for depression right
117:39
without insurance the ketamine nasal
117:42
spray is nine hundred dollars a dose do
117:47
you know anyone off the top of your head
117:48
who can afford
117:51
hundred dollars of any medication on a
117:53
weekly basis because I don’t I’d have a
117:59
tough time yeah I work on these drugs
118:03
and I I don’t know many people who can’t
118:06
afford to pay yeah
118:07
900 dollars every week we’d have to make
118:10
one dose we’d have to make some very
118:13
tough decisions in our household but
118:15
I’ll tell you something if I had I’ve
118:17
battled you know depression and anxiety
118:19
or whatever if I battle with some of
118:21
these folks are dealing with and I knew
118:23
that for four grand a month or of 3,500
118:26
a month whatever that I could be okay I
118:30
I mean a lot of people can still can’t
118:33
afford it but I you know I would make
118:35
whatever choices I had to most people
118:36
aren’t in a position to be able to make
118:38
those kind of choices and and and and
118:40
that’s a huge problem so the war on
118:41
drugs is terrible and and you know we
118:44
already knew the war on drugs is
118:45
terrible this just underscores yet
118:46
another functional practical reason as
118:48
to why the war on drugs is terrible so
118:50
guys if you haven’t if there’s anything
118:53
that you’ve taken from this show I want
118:55
it to be this stay six feet away from
118:58
people whenever possible try to avoid
119:00
large groups of people right now wash
119:03
your damn hands and sanitize your damn
119:05
hands and try to limit your face
119:06
touching you know when you’ve touched
119:08
something else in between hand washings
119:10
and you know and and and and you know
119:13
also uh limit your hair or when touching
119:15
yeah pretty pretty strongly advising
119:18
your hair limit your head yeah heroin
119:21
touch yeah try to touch heroin as little
119:24
as possible
119:25
preferably not at all um if you cannot
119:27
touch heroin at all that would be
119:29
helpful
119:29
and you know allow your frogs to
119:33
discover their sexuality on their own
119:34
stop trying to force your your agenda on
119:36
them and then also um you know if you’re
119:39
gonna if you think that you need six
119:42
thousand ibuprofen you might want to get
119:44
some rice to be and some propane and
119:46
eight propane you know
119:49
accessory get a generator get if you’re
119:51
gonna do this for yourself get a
119:52
generator if you’re like if you’re gonna
119:54
prepare for the end prepare for the in
119:56
here for inconvenience right exactly
119:58
yeah if you think that you’re gonna need
119:59
that much ibuprofen the world’s going in
120:01
that direction then you’re gonna need to
120:03
modify some of your decision
120:05
pretty quickly you’re gonna want to get
120:06
a generator you’re gonna want to go
120:07
ahead and take the car take that grill
120:09
off your car and put it on your chest
120:11
when you go out so you can mad max it
120:13
through the world you know there’s some
120:14
choices you’ll have to make so before I
120:16
move on to talking about the the vermin
120:20
spike 2020 update that I do that I do
120:23
whenever I do these shows I want to give
120:24
you a chance Jordan to give any final
120:27
thoughts you’d like to give anything
120:28
that you by the way thanks for coming on
120:30
this been a fantastic nice nice short
120:33
notice or so long that’s all right
120:36
we’ve wanted to do a science show for a
120:38
while all right right right we have we
120:40
have so much autograph for this one that
120:42
we couldn’t really get into like um how
120:45
a lot of my undergraduate work was in
120:47
like ecosystem maintenance and climate
120:50
change and stuff like that so we need to
120:52
do another show oh yeah you have to do
120:54
this again
120:54
yeah we’re absolutely doing this again I
120:56
was like a final thought I had something
120:59
for you that I was learning in in in the
121:04
keeping with you know maintaining
121:06
sanitation and you know in the midst of
121:12
a viral outbreak
121:13
I was wondering because we’re so deep
121:16
into this and you’re doing this Rivera’s
121:17
campaign what we have here is a box of
121:21
sterile shoe covers I was wondering if
121:25
you could get vermin while he’s on the
121:27
campaign for the rest of the year if he
121:29
would wear a sterile boot cover in the
121:33
name of you know if we’re trying to do
121:36
this we’re trying to do this if he’s
121:37
gonna wear a face mask you might as well
121:38
wear the shoe covers and the gloves and
121:40
everything let me write Dave down we can
121:41
get hold on yes I would yes if we’re
121:46
gonna do it ready this right damn it do
121:48
they know he’s gonna wear that
121:49
do they have 100 sterile Buch I mean
121:52
they have they have them for shoes so
121:55
just it works on any shoe that you want
121:58
to put it on so if he’s gonna wear it
121:59
for the rest of his campaign while we’re
122:01
in an outbreak he might as well if he’s
122:03
gonna if we’re gonna have people out
122:04
wearing gloves and face masks in public
122:06
vermin can wear a shoe cover on that
122:08
boot there’s no reason for him not to do
122:11
this well we do plan on doing some PSAs
122:13
about social distancing where we will do
122:15
like hey vermin hey spike are we six
122:17
feet away from each other
122:18
you
122:19
we’re 750 miles away from each other um
122:21
but for taking because the tick taught
122:23
kids love our PSAs um but um I never
122:26
thought I’d be talking about the tick
122:27
tock kids but now I’m running for office
122:29
so here we are but let me let me look
122:32
into that because if there is such a
122:34
thing as a sterile boot cover I will
122:36
tell you right now that man will be
122:38
wearing one at least occasionally
122:39
because that is a great idea and
122:41
hilarious um now meanwhile his boot is
122:45
is actually a boot cover it’s a rubber
122:47
it’s a tingly they call it’s the tingly
122:50
brand rubber boot cover because an
122:52
actual boot that large would break his
122:53
neck having to you know walking around
122:55
wearing that all the time right
122:57
and he actually uses a fun fact he uses
122:59
a Waffle House menu to keep it erect um
123:04
is that as a snap ein if you will to
123:08
keep his keep it nice and nice and ready
123:11
to go baby holding an apple um but the
123:14
but so but but I don’t know if that’s
123:18
considered a sterile boot cover but
123:20
you’re talking about like almost like it
123:21
almost looks like a hairnet but for your
123:23
your shoes right right like if you walk
123:26
into a if you walk into certain hazmat
123:29
areas or like sterile rooms and ICUs or
123:32
whatever you have to cover you should
123:33
complain so I’m saying he should wear
123:37
one for his hat I’m mentioned we’re
123:38
gonna have him wearing if we’re gonna
123:40
have him wearing that around all the
123:40
time we might as well have wearing it
123:42
with sterile if there is no right even
123:45
if we just have one just on the top part
123:47
like just you know like not even the
123:50
whole boot I just even if it’s on the
123:51
top part of the shoe it already covers
123:53
the UH yeah it doesn’t matter how high
123:56
the shoe goes up your leg or your ankle
123:57
or whatever it only covers the boss
123:58
covers you only have to have a covering
124:00
this oh wow yes I will talk with the
124:04
campaign tomorrow about that that’s an
124:07
excellent idea
124:09
so they sell these at yeah they sell
124:11
these at CVS Walgreens Rite Aid whatever
124:14
they have in Myrtle Beach you they’re
124:17
not hard to find I work for a medical
124:20
school we get them in bulk but you guys
124:22
do if he’s gonna wear that during an
124:24
outbreak we might as well have
124:25
everything taken care of just in case
124:27
just in case there’s not been I’m sure
124:30
much epidemiological epic
124:32
timmi illogical study I’m Sharon minimum
124:35
studies on wearing a boot on your head
124:37
and the potential vector factor for that
124:39
we don’t know we just don’t know right
124:41
so let’s just be safe let’s just be safe
124:43
no I think it’s a great idea so drun
124:45
thank you so much stick around I’m going
124:47
to give a vermin supreme of vermin spite
124:49
campaign update talking about everything
124:52
with the vermin supreme spike Cohen 2020
124:54
campaign guys this has been an
124:56
absolutely incredible week for us first
125:02
of all we found out from the Super
125:04
Tuesday convention it took forever to
125:05
count but we have confirmed that vermin
125:08
Supreme One the Massachusetts primary
125:11
this is a non-binding primary we don’t
125:14
bind our delegates we’ll find out at the
125:16
convention if that even happens who
125:19
actually you know beta pickets pick but
125:21
this is an idea of who the voters who
125:23
they like and so Fuhrman won
125:24
Massachusetts which is just incredible
125:27
and then even bigger news because this
125:28
was a close race
125:29
Jacob Hornberger came within what almost
125:33
just over just under 30 29 votes of a
125:36
vermin and Dan Berman was right behind
125:38
him Kim Roth who’s been out of the race
125:40
for two months she did pretty well but
125:42
so but what really the big news this
125:45
week is that after an absolutely just
125:47
astoundingly perfect debate performance
125:50
where he absolutely killed it at the
125:52
Libertarian Party of Illinois convention
125:56
at the debate in Chicago and a previous
125:59
debate that he had with other third
126:00
party candidates he completely routed at
126:04
the the Illinois version of what they
126:07
call their primary their straw poll he
126:09
won more votes than every other
126:12
candidate combined he did so well that
126:15
there was actually a negative reaction
126:17
from people who thought he couldn’t have
126:18
possibly actually done that well and he
126:21
did he did it he did incredibly
126:24
incredibly well it is he has really
126:28
turned a corner on this debate he’s
126:29
always been decent and good in the
126:30
debate performances he’s completely
126:32
turned a corner he killed it in the
126:33
debate it wasn’t even close and came
126:36
away as the winner and then I had I got
126:39
to participate in my first presidential
126:41
debate I know what you’re thinking spike
126:43
you’re not running for president well
126:44
that’s true but what
126:46
happened is vermin Supremes computer
126:49
didn’t work and so he wasn’t able to
126:50
participate he asked if I could
126:52
participate in his stead and so I ended
126:55
up in the transhumanist party third
126:58
party candidate presidential debate that
127:01
was hosted live on YouTube a couple days
127:02
ago I’ll put the link to it in the notes
127:05
it’s very long it was over two hours
127:07
that I participated I was in with other
127:09
libertarian candidates such as John
127:11
McAfee and Adam Koch Esch as well as Ben
127:15
Zion who is apparently the transhumanist
127:17
party’s candidate his their nominee for
127:22
president and John thistle who was
127:24
running as a Democrat and then mosey I
127:27
forget where most famous but she was in
127:29
there as well and also Zoltan whatever
127:32
that guy’s last name is who was running
127:34
as a libertarian he’s now he’s running
127:36
as a Republican Zoltan was in there but
127:38
he already had signed off before I got
127:39
on no doubt he signed off finding out
127:41
that Spike Owen would be participating
127:43
in the debate and just utterly wrecking
127:45
shop and winning I ended up being the
127:48
only candidate to end would time still
127:51
you know we each were assigned a certain
127:52
amount of time to answer all the
127:53
questions I was left with ten seconds
127:55
making me the winner of that debate so I
127:59
won that debate fair and square
128:01
having absolutely no idea what we were
128:03
gonna talk about because up to ten
128:04
minutes before I was on the floor being
128:06
the little spoon for my dog he was being
128:09
the big spoon I had no idea what was
128:11
gonna happen
128:12
no clue didn’t even know there was a
128:14
debate and then I get a call saying hey
128:16
how’d you like to be in a presidential
128:17
debate about technology and I thought
128:18
absolutely let’s find out and so I was
128:21
finding out what the questions were as
128:23
they were asking them whereas the other
128:25
candidates had had something like a week
128:27
to research it and even just know that
128:30
the idea of what was even happening so I
128:33
would say given the fact that I went in
128:35
not knowing anything that I did pretty
128:38
well I think I did pretty well so I want
128:41
it I want it I did win the debate I will
128:44
I’m calling that that I wanted to be um
128:46
and yeah we had a girl Oh
128:49
final my film we haven’t done five final
128:51
my fellow Americans you want to do final
128:53
my fellow Americans absolutely
128:56
okay so this is a fun game that we have
128:58
and by fun I mean that it’s going to be
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really like
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is difficult for you which is fun for me
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so basically what we’re gonna do is
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final my fellow Americans I give you 30
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seconds to answer a series of questions
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it’s nowhere near enough time to do so
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but that’s just how it is it’s just how
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it is Jordan um and so for this
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installment of final my fellow Americans
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I’m going to name a series of things and
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you tell me how long that it will take
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for that thing to eradicate all of
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humankind okay so I’m gonna name a thing
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and I tell me how long days weeks months
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whatever how long you think it will take
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for every single last human being on the
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planet earth to die a horrific painful
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death as a result of this thing that
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exists oh I’m playing what’s that game
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called outbreak or whatever it is the
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mobile app Oh playing plague inc yeah
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play a game okay yeah yeah doing that
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really okay but in real life in real
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life but what you’re doing in this case
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is you’re just estimating how long you
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think it’ll take so you tell me when
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you’re ready and we will get started go
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for it okay so we will get started Oh
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start the clocks at 30 seconds good luck
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Kove in nineteen ten years ten years to
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kill all of us climate change 50 years
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50 years okay the ending of net
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neutrality we’re already dead bro your
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broadcast straight from hell that’s good
130:24
goat AIDS ego aids aids that you get
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from a goat I’m gonna say 15 years 15
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that one’s way more dangerous okay the
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guy that guy named Jeff who has a
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nuclear weapon Jeff was no danger to us
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Jeff is a good person and he is going to
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save us all okay that’s Jeff is like the
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Iron Man of this universe know that the
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weapon that only he can contain he saw
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it so only Jeff can save us from Goat
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AIDS correct okay a pop country ooh that
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is more dangerous than Corona by a lot
131:04
I’m gonna say that’s gonna kill us all
131:05
by next year if we don’t do something
131:06
about it now okay I agree I agree
131:08
max Abramson registering as a Democrat
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Oh God Almighty I that’s got six months
131:20
that’s not until about November October
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before that kills us that’s fair that’s
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until the election um you have a bird
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box in real life mm they’re making a
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sequel to that so I’m gonna say two
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years oh they’re making a sequel that’s
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funny
131:39
okay the common cold but every time you
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sneeze flames come out of your nose I
131:45
think we would actually handle that
131:47
pretty well we just like to just make
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the social distancing mandatory by
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flamethrower season I’d say that’s
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socially this we probably do that okay
131:57
we probably last 20 years on that one 20
131:58
years okay we didn’t make yeah we just
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make pepper illegal so we it’s spicy
132:04
foods so this would be perfect for white
132:06
people because we just know spicy foods
132:07
I mean speak for yourself I live in
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Florida and that’s fair don’t know
132:12
that’s fair and you and your and you’re
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like part Cajun right you’re like part
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Louisiana that’s just mine like my
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grandmother on my mom’s side okay the
132:20
rest of my family is like Irish soon
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ladies oh well so you won’t be happy but
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we will live okay so and and then
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finally like we’ll live if you’re
132:29
watching this I’m so sorry
132:30
like are you are we really living okay
132:32
and then finally a badger oh just a
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badger is that have we angered the
132:40
badger like it’s the Badger pissed off
132:41
at us I mean it’s a badger so probably
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yes
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okay the badger will if granted it’s
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only once he’s got a lot of work to do
132:50
it’s living in a dungeon
132:51
probably yeah the Badger will take his
132:54
fall down in about nine years
132:55
okay the Badgers gonna like just he’s
132:58
gonna he’s gonna slowly build up to it
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but the Badger will eventually take over
133:01
the airforce and then we’re done okay so
133:03
it’s like it’s like it’s more of a
133:04
political process of him becoming
133:06
powerful enough to kill all of us
133:08
right the Badger will eventually pull
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the house of cards trick and become the
133:14
president and when he controls the
133:15
military that’s the game for him okay so
133:18
so the Badger is actually potentially
133:20
the worst threat besides max Abramson
133:23
becoming oh no no we’re out like you
133:25
said we’re already all in hell from
133:27
well pop-country we had to do something
133:30
about pop country we can still be saved
133:33
from that one but it will if we don’t do
133:35
something about cop country it’s over
133:36
yeah I mean it might already be too late
133:38
we may not be able to contain pop
133:40
country Jordan you’ve been an absolute
133:42
blast thank you so much for coming on we
133:44
are definitely doing more of these we’ll
133:46
do one on the environment and climate
133:47
change it would have been great to do
133:49
one but this became a two and a half
133:50
hour episode just on kovat and briefly
133:52
mentioning the war on drugs so we’ll do
133:54
more sciency segments it’s really great
133:57
because i am not i I get educated by
134:00
reading a lot of stuff immediately and I
134:02
don’t have a a breadth of knowledge when
134:04
it comes to scientific stuff so I really
134:06
appreciate your thoughts just a final
134:09
piece of advice for that Google Scholar
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is free peer-reviewed articles are
134:13
available on Google Scholar for free if
134:15
you’re going to try and look something
134:17
up don’t google it if it’s science
134:19
related Google Scholar it so how to
134:21
bring you the scientific articles that
134:23
are not written by media outlets not
134:26
blogs or anything like that and it’s
134:28
totally free and if there’s articles
134:30
that are behind a paywall
134:31
any local library or any college will
134:35
have access to those articles just use
134:37
their VPNs and so what what so Google
134:40
Scholar is what scholar.google.com are
134:44
yeah it’s yeah Google Scholar is
134:46
scholar.google.com and it’s the same
134:48
search engine but it brings up instead
134:50
of bringing up any source about the
134:52
topic it brings up only peer-reviewed
134:54
articles or case law or patents oh wow
134:58
so if so if you want to look something
135:01
up and you want to know that it’s not
135:04
something that somebody who has a blog
135:06
paid to put on the top results of Google
135:07
right Google Scholar okay well that’s
135:10
good to know so if you want to get
135:12
fluoride pilled then you go to Google
135:15
Scholar scholar.google.com Jordan thanks
135:18
again so much for coming on stick around
135:19
I’m going to talk to you during the
135:20
outro and you you you sexy beautiful
135:24
person who watched all 2 hours and 16
135:27
minutes of this show thank you so much
135:29
for tuning in we had an absolute blast I
135:32
know you did too I could tell from the
135:34
comments how much fun you had with us
135:37
thank you again stay safe stay away from
135:39
people wash your damn hands
135:40
you know get some food that you can cook
135:42
even if you know your microwaves not
135:44
working and we’ll get through this
135:45
together stay tuned next week we will be
135:50
right back at it again here Matt Wright
135:53
and I will be here at Tuesday night for
135:56
the muddy waters of freedom where Matt
135:58
Wright and I my heterosexual life
136:00
partner Matt and I will be parsing
136:02
through the week’s events like the sweet
136:04
little winter cherubs that we are and
136:06
then tune in right back here Wednesday
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night
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that’s when my show is Wednesday night
136:12
8:00 p.m. eastern from my fellow
136:14
Americans I have no idea who I’m gonna
136:16
have on or if I’m even gonna have a
136:18
guest or I’m just gonna talk about why
136:21
I’m running with vermin supreme but
136:23
we’re gonna try to get that thing for
136:24
his boot that’ll be really cool so guys
136:26
thanks again stay tuned we got much more
136:30
in store next week not so much tomorrow
136:33
oh no tomorrow I’m supposed to be on a
136:35
podcast which I think it’s called guns
136:37
and girls which sounds like a lot of fun
136:39
way more fun than this so be sure to I
136:42
will give the link to that when that’s
136:43
on but again thanks so much for tuning
136:46
in we will see you very soon and god
136:49
bless ya
136:51
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Spike Cohen
Local Jew. Contrarian stoic sentimentalist. Antidisestablishmentarianism. Will pet your dog.
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