(((My Fellow Americans))) #61: We Can Prove It Mathematically with Jordan Logue

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we have a fantastic episode for you
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person such as myself but an actual
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scientist as our guest and we’re going
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to get into all the science stuff that
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is bound to kill every single last one
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of us but first we continue our ongoing
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my fellow Americans libertarian party
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platform explanation platform plank
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one plank in the libertarian party
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platform explain what it means and why
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1.5 abortion which was just what a great
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episode that was how guys everyone had a
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real fun time talking about abortion
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just a great just a lot of minds changed
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and people coming together this one
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should prove to be even less divisive or
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divisive divisive and divisive anyway
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tonight we’re going to explain plank one
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point six which is parental rights all
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of the all of the planks from section
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one are related to self ownership but
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this one says parental rights parents or
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other guardians have the right to raise
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their children according to their own
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standards and beliefs provided that the
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rights of children to be free from abuse
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and neglect are also protected now that
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sounds pretty good but what exactly does
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that mean well as we know as we’ve
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talked about libertarian beliefs are
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related to self ownership the belief
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that we own ourselves because we own
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ourselves we honor our bodies because we
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own our bodies we own our labor and our
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we own our lives and we own our bodies
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we own our labor
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because we on our labor we on our
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property um now children aren’t really
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necessarily something that you own
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they’re a separate human being that you
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create but as an adult who is in charge
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of the care of that child you have the
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right to decide the way in which that
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you raise that child with the
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understanding of course that that child
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is also an individual human being who
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has its own his or her own rights are
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sure I don’t want to gender anyone who
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has the child has the child’s own rights
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not implying anything they have their
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own rights and they have their their own
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level of autonomy um so you can’t hurt
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them you can’t abuse them you can’t
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neglect them but provided that you are
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meeting their needs and not you know
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abusing them in some way then you have
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the right to raise them according to the
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values and beliefs that you have we
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should not have a a state imposed or
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societally imposed top-down standard for
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how children should be raised and we see
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you know again we talk a lot about what
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happens not just in theory but in
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practice when we give government power
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they often use it and very abusive
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inequitable and harmful ways we’ve we’ve
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all heard so many stories about children
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Protective Services and Department of
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Social Services in the various states
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taking people’s children with little to
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no evidence and that you know the
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parents having to fight to get their
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kids back there was a recent story I
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wish I could remember where exactly it
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was but we’re a family
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um one of the parents smoked marijuana
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and so they took the child for and
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they’d smoked it for medical reasons and
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they took the child from them and the
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child ended up being abused and killed
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by the foster parents that’s a perfect
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example of it’s an extreme example but
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it’s a perfect example of why we we
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believe that the state should stay out
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of it if there is to be a government the
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only thing that should be doing is
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making sure that there is not direct
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neglect or abuse happening if it’s just
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someone living in a way that some of us
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might not approve of that’s no one’s
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business so long as the child’s needs
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are being met and they’re not being
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including the need to not be neglected
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or abused then it’s really no one else’s
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business so that’s what that means there
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are many different you know we can spend
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literally an entire episode and I’m sure
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we will one day in terms of you know
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libertarians like to argue about
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everything and including this what
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constitutes abuse what constitutes
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neglect and many other really sticky
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that I have absolutely zero interest in
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talking about right now but overall we
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agree that it provided that you are not
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neglecting or abusing them that you
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should be able to raise them in the way
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you see fit
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so that is this week’s episode segment
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of the Libertarian Party platform plank
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explanation segment thank you and you’re
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welcome now let’s let’s get right to it
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my guest tonight as I said is a literal
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scientist he is a graduate of Georgia
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Southern University and the youngest
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ever graduate of Mercer University
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School of Medicine’s biomedical sciences
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program this is impressive stuff folks
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and it’s so impressive I’m having
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difficulty saying it he did it and I’m
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having a hard time just producing it
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from my mouth he’s published in the
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European Journal of pharmacology
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neuroscience and behavioral ecology and
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social biology he is published in that
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that thing that’s he’s got published now
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unfortunately none of these were New
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York Times bestsellers so he’s not
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allowed to have his own podcast or be
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considered important to libertarians but
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all the same we want him on the show
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because he agreed to come on so my
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fellow Americans please welcome to the
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show the beautiful and brilliant mr.
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Jordan Loeb Jordan thank you so much for
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coming on the show thank you for having
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me I while you were giving that intro I
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actually looked up Chris Reynolds I do
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have his website in front of me if
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anyone coughs on you in the tampa area
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please call this man you may have a
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claim that’s perfect yes
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if anyone coughs or sneezes on you this
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man right here Chris Reynolds I don’t
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know how that this didn’t really help I
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don’t know if like this is not a good
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like just remember this look for this
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face it’s Chris personal injury attorney
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Chris Reynolds on Facebook personal
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injury attorney Chris Reynolds that’s
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his page and I believe it’s Chris
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Reynolds law calm is that correct
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oh yeah yeah okay thank you that would
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be more helpful than than this that
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would be more helpful than hey look for
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this guy Google Chris Reynolds law he
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comes up first it’s fine okay good I
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don’t know what I was I mean I did I
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don’t know what this okay anyway so uh
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so yeah so Chris Reynolds law I am super
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excited to have you on this is gonna be
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a great match of wits and
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match of wits I mean that you are a PhD
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candidate and I barely made it out of
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high school so I’m looking for that
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beach guys be sure to comment with your
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questions and thoughts and Jordan I will
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tell you if you are right or wrong now
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Jordan this is your first time on the
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show welcome to the show so a lot of my
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viewers may not have heard of you as I
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said in my intro you are a scientist
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what made you decide to get into that
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field and because I am painfully
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explaining what you actually are maybe
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give us a little bit of a breakdown of
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what that means because literal
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scientists is probably not helping
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people anymore waving this around for
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Chris tell us what you’re doing and what
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got you into that okay so I am from a
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very very early age all I ever really
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wanted to be was a psychiatrist but the
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older I got in the closer I got to
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having to deal with things in medical
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school the more it became apparent that
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it it’s more important necessarily to go
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into drug development or treatment
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development that’s more than front lines
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it doesn’t really help you much if
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you’re the person handing out medication
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if the medication is not adequate to
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treat whatever is wrong right so I am
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and that’s not disrespecting two doctors
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but you know there’s there’s things that
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we don’t have a cure for and so let’s
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don’t go to the yeah yeah so you don’t
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really have the option of
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troubleshooting that on human patients
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so I went into more development of
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treatment and how underlying I’m a
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specifically a neuroscientist I’m a
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neurophysiologist with some
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neuropharmacology work thrown in but I
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work on how do how does the brain
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interact with the rest of the body to
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create a symptom of X Y Z condition
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right I don’t a lot of work on addiction
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depression anxiety related disorders so
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yeah
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cool that’s very cool so you focus more
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on like
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like for mature psychotropic Tripa drugs
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or the the publications that I have
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already out the one for the Journal of
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European pharmacology was on the
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habit-forming of the UH activity behind
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methamphetamine okay and specifically if
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you knock out part of the brain called
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the dorsal striatum and then within the
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dorsal striatum a subset of cells that
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are caught this referred to as the patch
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compartment whether or not that
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particular compartment is critical to
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habit formation or forming of preference
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so if you knock out that one particular
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part you don’t develop a preference for
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methamphetamine so we may have a target
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somewhere down the road of we’re going
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to treat this specific area for people
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who are addicted to methamphetamine as a
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way of breaking the habit so actually
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being able to break their whatever is
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happening physiologically in their brain
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that makes them even want to meth in the
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first place or whatever all right very
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very cool we already have a comment very
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complimentary comment here from Peter
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Simmons loving the cleavage JLo so
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that’s some getting some fan out Peter
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Peter is a very very old friend of mine
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I could I had a feeling I figured he
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either hated you or your good friends
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you know Peter you know this show I
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don’t know if you saw before but we we
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often have a lot of we have a lot of
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where is it we have a lot of cleavage
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here this is a cleavage heavy friendly
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show that we do here um so there we go
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yeah there we go
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so um okay cool so and in in honor of
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John hoodak and all of our previous
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appearances on podcast I just kind of oh
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you’re worried yeah I’m wearing a tank
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top underneath the head underneath this
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I’m wearing the tank top but I do have
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the rolled-up sleeves on the lab coat
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because I’m not gonna cut the sleeves
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off a lab coat but like I’m I’m John I’m
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here for you buddy I got you I love that
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that’s his thing like he’ll
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a very important like you know almost
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adversarial podcast and you know debate
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just showing the guns just like what you
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gonna do yeah that’s right yeah I called
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you a figure this period in what he does
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that one hundred percent of the time I
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swear to God when he finishes Law School
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he’s gonna go to court still wearing the
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same tank top that is so fun I’m just he
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will fight the DA to get his client off
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I love it if you like physically fight
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him he’ll do like the deal oh yeah I
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don’t chop the the you know a plank in
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front of them and be like your neck
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that’s funny
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so okay so you got into science do you
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think that your science influenced you
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becoming a libertarian or that your
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libertarianism influenced you becoming a
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scientist or some third option that
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isn’t going to make sense to me um I
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don’t think it had anything to do with
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the two didn’t really have much to do
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with each other I was a scientist before
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I cared about politics and really the
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only reason I cared about politics at
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all was how it related to things not
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immediately relevant to science right um
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I I don’t really think I started paying
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attention to politics at all until my I
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think it was tenth or eleventh grade
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when I started taking AP US history and
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a the US government and of all people
19:06
Mike Huckabee did a campaign rally in my
19:10
hometown and brought Chuck Norris to it
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and I still don’t care at all about Mike
19:16
Huckabee but I was 15
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bruh and I was already nursing my
19:20
crippling addiction to memes and I was
19:22
like Chuck Norris is here okay then that
19:25
was during like the peak of the Chuck
19:27
Norris memes right right right so I I
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went to that for no other reason than to
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get my picture taken with Chuck Norris
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which I got done but while I was at the
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Mike Huckabee rally I met a bunch of
19:39
people from one of the local colleges
19:42
who were campaigning for Ron Paul and
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they gave me a bunch of free books and I
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read them and you know twelve years
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later I’m here so here we are the old
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Chuck Norris to libertarianism pipe
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that we oh yeah the pocket the pipeline
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of one the what no you know what you
20:04
probably are not the only one to be
20:06
brought in by the ignores and then I
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mean no I mean it’s it’s not one of the
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larger pipelines I’m sure there’s a bit
20:12
of a bottleneck but it does exist if
20:15
only because of you there is one even if
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it’s just an outlier pipeline it is the
20:20
one one or more people as many as one
20:23
people have been caught to
20:25
libertarianism by Chuck Norris that is
20:27
hilarious now speaking of questionable
20:29
libertarian entries you are also one of
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the admins one of my favorite pages and
20:34
groups on on Facebook which is fake
20:36
Rotarians tell us about why you got into
20:38
that and what what you’re doing over
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there
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I actually I just started following the
20:44
page like everybody else because I
20:45
thought it was you know an interesting
20:47
page and it’s also I mean I don’t think
20:50
anybody’s been around libertarianism for
20:52
any period of time without noticing that
20:54
there’s a there’s a wide variety of
20:58
people who call themselves libertarians
20:59
but a lot of it has absolutely nothing
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to do with um the way I’ve had to
21:04
explain it to some friends of mine who
21:06
aren’t libertarians and don’t care all
21:08
about politics they the way that one of
21:13
them explained it to me his name’s Taj
21:15
if he’s probably he’s probably also
21:16
watching this is Todd if you’re watching
21:17
comment something stupid the way he
21:21
explained it to me was that he thought
21:22
of libertarians as the people who are
21:27
more conservative than Republicans but
21:31
more racist than Republicans and even
21:33
regular Republicans wouldn’t talk about
21:35
it
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Oh Lord and I was like I I don’t think
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that’s an accurate description but I
21:40
know exactly what you’re talking about
21:41
why why someone would say that yeah yeah
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so yeah I I can’t defend I can’t be
21:49
angry at it for saying that is it go to
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go to anyone who has ever seen the
21:57
comments section on any reason article
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yeah or uh yeah it’s bad right yeah and
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so the fact that the Libertarian Party
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took a pretty you know hard stance
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against a lot of the stuff that Obama
22:10
was doing for the last you know
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for the last decade brought in a lot of
22:15
people who directly oppose Obama so
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thought that they were libertarians yeah
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which it’s an that’s not it because you
22:24
you run the gamut from I don’t think
22:27
that this spending program is
22:29
sustainable and I do not support your
22:32
expansion of drone strikes to people who
22:35
thought he was the Antichrist and also a
22:37
fake Muslim from Kenya with a fake birth
22:40
certificate and his wife was actually a
22:42
band like that trying to trim that a
22:44
transwoman him yeah yeah I still agree
22:47
MIT that you run when you say you’re a
22:49
libertarian right and I understand why
22:54
people would be hesitant to call
22:55
themselves that I would also understand
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that and I say that as someone who I
22:59
didn’t quite come in that way but
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initially I was still I mean I was a
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boarder terian for you know my first bit
23:06
of time being friendly with the
23:08
Libertarian Party and I was still that
23:10
very much that well you know the
23:11
Republicans are way better than the
23:12
Democrats you know the Republicans suck
23:14
too but you know there’s still way
23:16
better than the Democrat and it took me
23:17
a while they’re really actually because
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people would say well what is
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libertarianism and I’d start saying what
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I believed and they say yeah but what is
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that what libertarianism is founded on
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I’m like yeah and then finally I
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actually did some reading and I’m like
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oh no oh and yeah and and that really
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helped because then I thought okay well
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do I believe this and I really delved
23:37
into it and it I thought I do believe
23:39
this and I now have some interesting
23:42
changes that might in my position in a
23:45
relatively short period of time so it’s
23:47
very it’s very interesting to see how
23:48
people help people get there so um
23:51
alright let’s get into this whole kovat
23:53
thing because that’s what everyone is
23:55
asking about we dedicated an entire we
23:58
decided last night on the muddy waters
24:00
of freedom to have a CO vid free show
24:02
for st. Patrick’s Day where we still
24:04
ended up talking about it we just kept
24:06
calling it the thing we don’t talk about
24:07
and it was just to have a break but the
24:09
reality is this is a very you know
24:11
important thing and we need to talk
24:13
about it now Jordan as we both know
24:14
kovat 19 the novel coronavirus
24:16
is literally less dangerous than h1n1
24:19
and no one even newer cared about that
24:21
ever because Barack Obama was president
24:23
and this whole thing is just a giant
24:25
hoax to make Donald Trump
24:27
look bad tell us why that is with
24:29
science go god you sound like my entire
24:34
family okay so so so obvious okay
24:36
obviously that’s nonsense covert 19 is
24:38
extremely serious right explain to this
24:40
why it’s serious because despite what
24:45
Ron Paul says about it it does actually
24:47
have a much higher rate of fatality than
24:53
the regular flu right and because we in
24:57
the United States lack a way of testing
25:00
for it currently the virus has a very
25:04
long incubation period before you come
25:05
from become symptomatic and it’s very
25:07
contagious so you could end up also
25:11
within that you have a set number of
25:13
people where if you are healthy you will
25:14
never even if you’re carrying the virus
25:15
you will not be symptomatic so even with
25:18
being asymptomatic you can still
25:19
transmit this virus and within a set
25:22
period of time you can transmit that
25:25
virus to enough people where one of them
25:27
will have some kind of problem or will
25:30
be able to transmit it to somebody else
25:32
who has the same kind of problem where
25:33
they have a weakened immune system or an
25:35
auto imply an autoimmune disorder or
25:37
maybe they have a young child or maybe
25:39
they have an elderly relative that they
25:42
come in contact with a lot where you’re
25:44
going to pass this on to everyone around
25:47
you if you’re not careful about it and
25:49
within passing around to everyone around
25:51
you one of them will get it and it will
25:54
actually be serious enough for them to
25:55
be hospitalized and then you go from
25:58
there but it’s it’s not anything to play
26:01
with right and and and this is not an
26:05
extinction level event situation like
26:07
we’re humanity’s going to survive this
26:09
this isn’t like even and so in the movie
26:11
Contagion I think the death the fatality
26:13
rate there was 20% so and again even
26:15
that was most people are gonna survive
26:16
but when you think of 20% of people
26:18
dying and quite a few of them getting
26:20
really sick it was it was like a
26:21
challenge you know that 10 years later
26:23
the world was still reeling from it this
26:25
is not going to be that but at least in
26:26
the short term there’s gonna be a big
26:27
problem now there’s been a lot of
26:29
misconceptions
26:41
and the fatality rate is they say ten
26:43
times higher than the flute let’s just
26:44
put it that number that’s still a lot of
26:46
people and people are comparing it to
26:50
you know you say that this many people
26:53
die in a year of car crashes this many
26:54
people died in a year of cancer this
26:56
many people died in a year of you know
26:58
household accidents whatever right but
27:01
those are usually like things that are
27:04
not if they are preventable like there’s
27:07
ways that you can prevent cancer but
27:09
you’re never gonna get all of them
27:10
you’re never gonna be able to prevent
27:11
one hundred cent of household accidents
27:13
you can’t transmit cancer to somebody
27:16
else
27:16
right um driving safely will prevent
27:19
most auto accidents but at the same time
27:21
you’re never gonna bring it down to zero
27:22
right but this is a case of we have the
27:26
ability to prevent it and it would be
27:28
irresponsible about to take some measure
27:30
in order to prevent it right and we also
27:34
have a situation so there’s been a lot
27:35
of talk about the fatality rate being
27:37
only 2% or only 3% and so you’ll hear
27:40
people say well let’s just all get it at
27:41
once and get it over with and then that
27:44
way it’ll be fine now you can explain
27:46
this later than I believe phantos had a
27:48
similar theory just different numbers on
27:51
it just snap your fingers and the two
27:53
percents gone but here’s the problem
27:55
with that and you can explain this
27:57
better than me so in South Korea the
28:01
fatality rate seems to be around 0.6%
28:04
making it about six times deadlier than
28:06
the flu still deadlier than than the flu
28:08
but ultimately fairly manageable whereas
28:11
right now in Italy I’m hearing numbers
28:12
as high as almost 10% so it’s it’s more
28:19
than that more than 15 times worse than
28:22
in South Korea and more than a hundred
28:25
times worse or roughly a hundred times
28:27
worse than the flu talk to us about why
28:30
there is such a wide disparity and why
28:33
it’s important how we respond to that
28:35
well it’s all in it’s all in preparation
28:38
for containment right if you look at
28:41
South Korea they were I guess more
28:44
prepared more ability they had more
28:46
ability to test for it and when you have
28:49
the ability to test for it you know who
28:50
to isolate the biggest problem with any
28:54
of these
28:54
brakes whatever they exist and we go
28:57
through this every few years when the
28:58
media creates a panic about a like
29:03
everybody remembers the bird flu
29:04
everybody remembers the swine flu
29:05
everybody remembers Ebola where they
29:09
talk about this horrible disease that
29:10
someone’s absolutely probably going to
29:12
die up but it’s under the context of
29:15
this disease is awful but they never
29:18
look at any of the details of the actual
29:22
contagiousness of the disease right so
29:25
Ebola is actually very very difficult to
29:29
transmit from person to person unless
29:31
you’re actually like a healthcare worker
29:33
right we’re consuming like Ebola unless
29:36
you’re a healthcare worker or you’re
29:37
consuming the bodily fluids by accident
29:39
for like a tainted water supply but the
29:40
Ebola is not a disease that in the
29:42
United States would spread rapidly right
29:43
because of the high hygienic sanitation
29:46
and stuff we have in place it wouldn’t
29:47
really spread yep
29:48
right but respiratory illness is spread
29:53
all the time right it’s just usually not
29:55
one that serious enough to hurt anything
29:56
anyone but we have something that is
29:59
it’s not really comparable to the flu
30:01
it’s a different kind of virus it’s not
30:04
like I’ve seen people make it everybody
30:05
goes back to the flu because it’s a it’s
30:07
something that makes you feel awful
30:09
makes you coffin a super contagious you
30:11
know but but they’re not the same kind
30:13
of virus they’re not directly comparable
30:16
in that way other than the fact that
30:17
they make you cough that’s about it yeah
30:20
but the the difference between different
30:23
places having you know different
30:26
effectiveness in their healthcare
30:28
treatments and in their you know
30:30
fatality rates it’s just how quickly
30:32
were they able to contain it and did
30:34
they prevent it from getting to the most
30:36
vulnerable populations fast enough
30:39
South Korea did a very good job of
30:41
containing it so that it did not spread
30:44
to young children and the elderly if you
30:48
look at the breakdown of who in Italy
30:51
has if you look at the fatality rates of
30:55
it the fatality rates are mostly in
30:57
older people or people who already had
30:59
some underlying health condition right
31:01
when people the elderly the young the
31:04
very very very young children and people
31:06
who have an underlying condition are
31:07
always
31:08
like the people that you’re trying to
31:09
keep safe this is why we are always
31:13
harping on please get your flu shots
31:15
don’t buy into the anti vaccine
31:17
propaganda we have to keep the
31:19
vaccination rates up in order to provide
31:22
herd immunity and contain the spread of
31:24
the virus or whatever other pathogen not
31:26
all of them are viral but you get points
31:28
right in this case it’s there was no
31:32
vaccine and the places that are doing
31:36
good or bad at maintaining the fatality
31:40
rates and keeping them low are the ones
31:42
who managed to contain the spread
31:44
quickly the biggest fear in the United
31:46
States right now is how long it took the
31:50
US government or any real-life or anyone
31:53
really anyone respond to what yeah to
31:55
respond to what this was you know
31:57
because we’re three three and a half
32:00
months into a pandemic we don’t even
32:03
have the ability to test for it in most
32:05
places we have no idea what the
32:06
infection rate is because how how do you
32:10
tell if you can’t test we don’t even
32:12
have the test and a big problem there is
32:14
like we have a couple of hospital
32:16
systems in the Myrtle Beach area that
32:17
are testing but presumably because they
32:20
don’t have a lot of tests the
32:21
pre-screening you have to go through is
32:23
ridiculous you have to already be so
32:25
sick that you require respiratory care
32:27
in a hospital to get the testing so for
32:31
example oh and you more than likely have
32:33
to tell them that you’ve been out of the
32:34
country for within the past 30 days or
32:36
that someone you’ve been in contact with
32:38
has been out of the country so which is
32:40
absurd and asinine considering we have
32:42
widespread community spread at this
32:44
point and they’re still asking people in
32:46
a hospital systems have you been out of
32:47
the country it doesn’t matter anymore
32:49
right this isn’t a foreign disease
32:51
anymore this is a a widespread disease
32:53
and we’re going to get more into the
32:53
testing thing in a second but because
32:56
we’re not containing it true or false
33:00
the the more people you have in a
33:04
hospital the higher fatality rate is
33:07
going to be because there’s just so many
33:09
people needing hospital care that there
33:11
just isn’t enough hospital care for it I
33:13
don’t think we’ve hit the point in the
33:15
United States yet where we’re going
33:17
we’re not seeing like rational rationing
33:20
of hell of beds and
33:22
hospitals we’re seeing that in Italy and
33:23
it’s like they’re already trying to come
33:25
up with like triage plans for what to do
33:28
with this many elderly people in these
33:30
hospitals we’re not seeing that the
33:31
United States yet so we I don’t think
33:36
that that is to the immediate worry just
33:38
yet okay the worry right now is still
33:41
containment who can like if we keep
33:46
everyone separate for long enough to see
33:48
who is symptomatic can we get these
33:50
tests out so that people can touch
33:52
testing themselves can we get everything
33:54
settled out and just see where is the
33:57
virus can we keep it there and prevent
34:00
it from going elsewhere that’s the
34:02
priority right now
34:03
the problem is that should have been the
34:05
priority in January from day one yeah
34:07
and yeah and it’s March we’ve had this
34:11
thing we’ve had this thing running out
34:14
in the wild in the United States the
34:16
first recorded case that was confirmed
34:19
in the United States was January 30th
34:21
and that well the the case report was
34:25
came out on January 30th if you look at
34:30
the amount of time that this thing has
34:32
had to go out and about in the
34:35
intervening period of time it could be
34:38
everywhere by now yeah
34:40
like them both of us just sitting here
34:42
hung dude we could both already have it
34:45
and just not exhibit symptoms or have
34:46
had it I I had I have to interrupt you
34:49
real quick I got really sick in February
34:52
at the New Hampshire primaries like a
34:54
couple days after I did the New
34:56
Hampshire primaries where there were
34:57
people from all over the world watching
34:58
the spectacle of the New Hampshire
34:59
primaries I got very sick I got so sick
35:03
I had to stay an extra couple days at
35:05
the hotel room cuz I was not going to be
35:07
able to you know get to travel back home
35:09
when I went to a doctor’s office and
35:12
this is in Boston where they already had
35:13
a come for just outside of Boston where
35:15
they already had a one country there was
35:17
one of the first like five or six
35:18
confirmed cases in the u.s. so I went to
35:20
the doctor I tested negative for the flu
35:22
they said it sounds like something worse
35:24
than a cold we’re gonna put you on
35:25
Tamiflu anyway and I said well is it
35:27
possible this is a corona virus and they
35:29
said it’s absolutely possible we have no
35:32
way of testing so we’re gonna simply
35:34
tell you to do
35:35
all the things that we would recommend
35:36
that you do whereas wear a surgical mask
35:39
when you’re out so you can’t spread it
35:40
tell it so it’s harder for you to spread
35:42
it to others stay in your hotel room you
35:44
know make sure you you you you clean and
35:46
sanitize everything you’ve touched and
35:48
be very careful for the next couple of
35:50
weeks
35:50
IIIi did you know I broke you know a lot
35:53
my fever and everything a lot a lot
35:55
faster and it might have been something
35:56
else but I’m also relatively healthy so
35:59
it’s there’s a good chance I got it
36:01
already have the immunity and I’m
36:02
sitting here you know in self quarantine
36:04
and could probably already maybe
36:06
possibly even be okay to go out but we
36:08
have no idea and it you know but so you
36:11
actually think that this is still
36:12
possibly something that’s containable
36:13
and not just mitigating and slowing the
36:16
spread you think this is still something
36:17
that we could actually put a halt to oh
36:19
no I think the decay at this point it’s
36:24
the like I said the first case that they
36:27
confirmed in the US was a guy who
36:31
reinterred the u.s. he’s a he’s a he
36:35
lives in Washington State
36:36
I had this case file in front of me I
36:38
don’t they they blacked out his name but
36:40
he returned to the United States from
36:42
China on January the 15th he went to I
36:46
don’t know which airport he came through
36:48
I don’t know what else he did in that
36:50
period of time but he came back from
36:53
China uh was coughing like it was not
36:58
coughing on the plane or while he was
37:00
traveling after he got home he started
37:02
coughing
37:03
he called for two days and then started
37:04
running a fever after running a fever
37:06
for three days he went to Urgent Care
37:08
where they admitted him to the hospital
37:09
and they tested him for Corona there
37:12
they had to come up with tests to give
37:14
him because they didn’t have their own
37:15
right all right even even though one
37:18
even though one exists the World Health
37:20
Organization already has one but that’s
37:22
not allowed here well well there are
37:24
several that exist
37:25
it’s just how there are several that
37:27
exist it’s just whether or not they’re
37:28
cleared for use in the United States
37:30
right here right yeah that’s it
37:33
that’s another we’re gonna get into that
37:36
we’re gonna get into that yeah yeah yeah
37:38
but from the first guy this is in
37:43
Washington near the Seattle area mm-hmm
37:45
that means that if he flew from
37:49
China that anybody who is in the same
37:51
Airport is him could have been exposed
37:54
definitely but he was on the same plane
37:56
you know anybody who you know he came in
37:59
contact when he went to work for the
38:00
next three days everybody was in the
38:02
hospital waiting room while he was
38:03
waiting to go into urgent care yeah um
38:06
anybody in that period of time could
38:09
have gone anywhere else and then anyone
38:11
that and then anyone that they if they
38:14
got if any of them got infected anyone
38:16
that they did any of those things with
38:18
in that time which is why this thing
38:20
doubles every three days because it’s
38:23
you know it’s not like the easiest thing
38:25
on earth to spread it’s conceivable that
38:27
someone that’s infected could touch
38:28
someone and as long as that’s person you
38:30
know wash themself afterwards or
38:31
whatever that they don’t get it but the
38:33
reality is when you have someone who’s
38:35
especially if they have any symptoms and
38:37
they’re sniffling sneezing whatever
38:38
they’re around a bunch of people there’s
38:39
this potential for exponential spread so
38:41
it’s I mean it’s anyway go ahead right
38:43
so that’s that was whichever airport he
38:47
went through that would be like you know
38:49
the initial and it’s just the first
38:52
confirmed case he might not even be the
38:53
first guy right he’s just the first one
38:55
that they showed on like that they
38:56
showed that he tested positive for it
38:58
after they gave him a battery of tests
39:00
which is interesting because it showed
39:02
up positive in like they did several
39:04
different tests on him to see if it
39:05
would show up weird thing is that it
39:07
would show up in the for in in just this
39:11
case so they’ve obviously there’s other
39:12
kinds of tests they can do but they were
39:15
doing blood throat swab nasal they took
39:20
stool samples urine says I would I see
39:22
everything that they can get from the
39:24
guy seemed right all right right it did
39:26
not show up in the blood test that they
39:27
gave him which is interesting but it did
39:30
show up in the nasal swab so that’s if
39:35
they don’t that’s just kind of
39:37
indicative that if they don’t have the
39:38
specific test that you’re needed to look
39:40
for here thinking this might not work
39:44
there could be there could be a lot of
39:46
false negatives happening right and even
39:50
if you know it’s even if it’s coming
39:53
back positive
39:55
if you look at the NBA players who have
39:58
tested positive for it only one of the
40:01
players in the NBA who tests
40:03
positive for it was symptomatic and he
40:05
just felt tired but Kevin Durant had it
40:09
and felt fine yeah apparently Tom Hanks
40:12
and eat yourself had it and they didn’t
40:14
feel sick
40:17
so it’s not about the healthy people
40:21
though it’s about preventing somebody
40:23
who like is sick with something else
40:25
from getting it which is why we’re all
40:27
doing this right exactly and so it’s a
40:31
real quick question for I go into the
40:33
testing thing what what do we know for
40:36
certain so you know when this first came
40:38
out and I looked up you know incubation
40:39
periods and they’re like well other
40:41
coronaviruses have an incubation period
40:43
of up to 14 days so we’re assuming that
40:45
this is the same and other things last
40:48
this long other coronaviruses lasts this
40:50
long on certain services do we know for
40:53
certain for example how long kovat 19
40:56
specifically lives on different types of
40:58
surfaces exactly how long the incubation
41:01
period is whether high heats can kill it
41:03
things like that or are we still flying
41:05
behind and comparing it to like SARS and
41:07
stuff like that we do know we do move
41:10
enough about it to say that like
41:13
disinfectants will kill it high heat
41:15
will kill it okay as far as like whether
41:19
or not antivirals
41:21
will slow down the progression of
41:23
symptoms I’m not sure right um like
41:25
settlement I’m a neurophysiologist I’m
41:27
not a biologist I’m not an immunologist
41:29
I just I took regular entry-level
41:32
classes on them but that’s right you
41:36
know we do know that compared to the
41:40
other viruses that are comparable with
41:42
karana viruses it does have some people
41:45
have said as low as 14 days incubation
41:49
some people have documented I believe as
41:52
high as 35 yeah yeah you now realize
41:59
them what kind of mess we’re in right
42:01
you’re telling people like oh you you
42:03
what you came back from at this point
42:05
anywhere and you’re not feeling well you
42:08
have to stay in your house for 35 days
42:10
and assume that you have that you have
42:12
but those are kind of outliers right
42:14
like my understanding is that the
42:15
average like
42:16
you know maybe one out of a thousand is
42:18
gonna be outside about 14 days but but
42:21
that it is possible oh it’s possible but
42:24
the thing is that we’ve we’re so far
42:27
behind the curve on this right now
42:29
because we’ve waited so long to do
42:31
anything about it that we’re now looking
42:34
at for example right now Florida Public
42:40
Schools we’re on spring break they sent
42:45
out the email a few weeks ago that
42:46
following spring break if you leave
42:48
whatever campus you’re on you cannot
42:52
come back to that campus for 14 days so
42:55
if you leave for Spring Break you cannot
42:58
come back to school for 14 days
43:00
following that 14-day period you can
43:04
come back if you’ve shown no symptoms
43:05
whatsoever which is means nothing and
43:08
then they when they change that to be
43:10
we’re not having classes anymore this
43:12
semester right you can come back in the
43:14
summer but everything that’s gonna be
43:16
online and that seems a bit much but if
43:23
we don’t have testing kits and we don’t
43:25
have any way of saying who has it is
43:27
asymptomatic or who has it and you know
43:32
it’s contagious or who doesn’t have it
43:34
or whatever right but we’re looking at
43:38
the real possibility that this virus
43:40
which was highly contagious was allowed
43:43
basically six weeks with no public
43:49
response to it
43:50
it could already be everywhere I assume
43:53
why this yeah yeah we’re and we’re at
43:56
the point now we’re like okay we’re
43:58
we’re in quarantine but we have no way
44:01
of knowing whether or not you’re sitting
44:05
in quarantine with other people who are
44:07
carrying the virus right right right
44:09
you know like for the lack of testing
44:14
kits is like the most egregious error
44:17
that we could have made here and until a
44:22
week ago the people who were you know in
44:25
charge of the federal government were
44:26
saying this was a hoax and there’s some
44:29
people saying it’s out there
44:30
we’re dogs yeah there are still people
44:33
saying oh yeah quick question so we’re
44:37
not doing testing clearly there are more
44:38
than I don’t know seven eight thousand
44:40
whatever it’s up to now how many orders
44:42
Amit cuz I’ll ask people how many more
44:44
do you think haven’t they’re like well
44:45
maybe two clear fifteen thousand now how
44:46
many orders of magnitude higher do you
44:50
think the number of actual cases is to
44:53
the confirmed cases oh man well here’s
44:57
the thing the the limiting factor of the
45:00
confirmed cases is not being determined
45:04
by the actual infection rate right we
45:06
have like like the late room the rate
45:10
limiting factor there is the number of
45:12
testing kits that we have available for
45:16
all we know at this point the virus
45:18
could be at higher than 50 percent
45:20
infection in the United States it could
45:23
also be at only like five percent are
45:25
you seeing 50 percent of the population
45:27
right yeah but that’s the thing it could
45:31
be as low as 1% or as high as 50 we have
45:34
no idea it’s not we can’t really even
45:36
speculate on it because from the limited
45:40
data that we have which is coming from a
45:42
limited number of available tests yeah
45:45
we have how many people have been tested
45:48
and we have how many people came back
45:49
positive right but the sample size for
45:52
that is so small compared to population
45:54
in the United States and only in
45:57
specific areas like for exists if you
46:00
live in Milledgeville Georgia Macon
46:03
Georgia or Warner Robins Georgia you
46:06
have to travel to Atlanta to get tested
46:10
so officially there’s only like four
46:13
confirmed cases in the state of Georgia
46:15
outside the city of Atlanta which that
46:17
doesn’t mean there are none there yeah
46:20
it just means that we haven’t been able
46:21
to find them because we don’t have to be
46:23
able to test for them so then you agree
46:25
with me that we’re looking at anywhere
46:27
from three to five orders of magnitude
46:29
higher
46:30
we’re not five because I’d be 800
46:32
million three we’re talking maybe three
46:34
or four orders of magnitude higher than
46:36
the number of confirmed cases like it’s
46:39
just beyond anything anywhere near what
46:42
we’re being told right
46:44
I don’t want to put a number on it okay
46:46
because base are based on the available
46:49
data it’s not really wise to speculate
46:52
like how many people would test positive
46:55
for it because you’re basing this on a
46:56
lot of you’re basing it on a lot of what
46:59
yes okay um and so I don’t want to I
47:02
don’t want to say anything that’s gonna
47:04
come back and be like oh he gave us this
47:06
this and this number my problem isn’t
47:09
necessarily that I have questions that I
47:12
have like complaints about the way that
47:14
the math is done my problem is that we
47:16
don’t have enough data to make accurate
47:19
projections to say well I’m out or not
47:20
video yeah we don’t have enough
47:23
information to say what the infection
47:26
rate is in the United States right now
47:27
because we can’t test for it right and
47:29
my biggest like the most egregious thing
47:32
that I’ve ever seen with this is that
47:34
just the lack of testing yep
47:36
because there there’s no excuse for how
47:38
long it took them to clear the tests for
47:41
this virus yep so let’s get into that
47:44
because it’s so because I’m not a
47:46
scientist and can make whatever off the
47:48
wall a hyperbole hyperbolic statements I
47:52
want I personally think we’re looking at
47:54
at least a million people to have it in
47:55
the US and I think that that’s a low
47:57
number I think we have zero concept of
47:59
just how many people have it when the
48:01
Ohio Department of Health said that
48:03
they’re going based on the assumption
48:04
that there are were a hundred thousand
48:06
people just in Ohio that had it and that
48:08
was like a week ago and that it was
48:10
doubling every three days that to me
48:12
said that we’re just not even in the
48:14
will have the realm of reality when
48:17
we’re looking at what our confirmed
48:18
numbers are what our what our actual
48:19
numbers are compared to gopher anyway so
48:21
let’s talk about the testing as per
48:24
usual
48:24
the government has utterly failed to
48:27
protect us and I have featured a story
48:30
about a woman a doctor on both the muddy
48:34
waters media and and and vermin spike
48:37
social media about a doctor by the name
48:39
of Helen Chu who was at the University
48:42
of Washington who I consider to be an
48:45
absolute hero who ultimately will be
48:48
responsible for saving the lives of
48:50
countless people Jordan tell us about
48:55
dr. chu and and and
48:57
actually what she did okay so dr. chu
49:01
the short version of this story and I
49:03
don’t wanna because it’s already been
49:05
posted I don’t know just like read this
49:06
article to your fan base but basically
49:09
she was testing people for the corona
49:13
virus in the middle of doing another
49:14
study which was on the flu in Seattle
49:17
area and even though she was not given
49:20
clearance or permission to run tests for
49:23
the corona virus she thought it would be
49:25
egregious if we just didn’t test for it
49:29
so she tested for it anyway and actually
49:31
found case of corona virus in Washington
49:33
and contained them so there’s been a lot
49:40
of back-and-forth complaints about the
49:41
FDA and the CEC and just a bunch of
49:45
different government agencies that have
49:46
just absolutely refused to deal with
49:51
this in a timely manner right to the
49:54
point where the the quote that I like so
50:00
much from doctor is from Alex Greninger
50:03
from University of Washington was that
50:07
the virus is moving somewhat is the
50:09
virus is faster than the FDA to the
50:13
point that the agency was requiring him
50:16
to submit materials in order to like
50:19
apply for testing they were making him
50:22
submit it through the mail and email
50:26
because they needed two forms of it and
50:29
they would not proceed without the
50:31
physical copy that was sent to them
50:33
through the mail so our response to
50:37
pandemic outbreaks that could and
50:39
already kind of has destabilized the
50:42
entire economy but could potentially
50:44
kill thousands of people was stalled
50:49
because someone had to send something
50:51
through regular mail because email of a
50:54
PDF was not good enough for a government
50:56
agency and everyone who keep in mind
50:59
like the people at CDC know at least as
51:04
well as Jordan and I know probably even
51:07
better what were face absolutely a
51:09
yeah the CDC in the NIH absolutely know
51:12
what’s coming the CDC and the NIH are
51:15
like as much as people inherently want
51:19
to mistrust the government so do I but
51:21
the CDC and the NIH are not on the the
51:24
scientific aspect of it is not operated
51:26
by government drones they’re operated by
51:28
scientists yeah and you can say whatever
51:30
you want about scientists that are you
51:34
know they’re subject to political
51:35
inclinations and biases like everybody
51:37
else of course of course
51:38
but they but they document their work if
51:41
you want to go in and see if there is a
51:43
bias you can look in their paperwork and
51:46
find it you can like no one’s ever
51:48
accused DNA of having a political
51:50
leaning you just have people who don’t
51:51
understand what DNA is trying to make
51:53
XYZ claim about it
51:54
that is not correct right if they’re
51:57
saying that the corona virus has you
52:00
know this infective rate has you know
52:04
this protein coat particle or has this
52:07
RNA sequence or whatever you want to say
52:09
about it they’re not making that up
52:11
right it weird of course and you can
52:13
look it up and whatever does and then
52:16
yet knowing intimately what it is we’re
52:19
facing and how dangerous is and how
52:21
fast-moving it is they still had to
52:24
operate within these confines of how
52:26
they would approve things cuz that’s how
52:28
it was written on a sheet of paper and
52:30
they’re just doing their jobs so there
52:32
was more than like we know nefarious
52:33
intent here it’s actually something
52:35
worse it’s just that that’s how it was
52:38
written up to do it’s not even
52:39
incompetence it’s like some kind of
52:41
Kafka esque nightmare where it’s like
52:43
yeah I know this thing is coming that
52:45
you know is going to kill millions or
52:48
hundreds of thousands of us if we don’t
52:50
move on it now but it says to here you
52:52
got you got to send it in the mail and
52:54
it’ll take three to five you know
52:55
business days for us to respond once we
52:57
get it that’s how it was how it was
53:00
written up to so Helen Chu you know to
53:02
put it in somewhat layman’s terms here
53:04
Helen Shu basically for all lack for
53:07
lack of a better word illegally was
53:08
testing people and so you know it’s not
53:11
you know
53:12
and when I say illegally she wasn’t you
53:14
know on the lam and saying catch me if
53:15
you can coppers it’s just she didn’t
53:17
have any relation to do so and so she
53:20
did it anyway because her Hippocratic
53:21
oath required to do it
53:23
and so she did it and it was because of
53:25
her and the actions of people like her
53:27
that we even knew anyone had it here and
53:30
it was that that actually correct me if
53:33
I’m wrong that actually put pressure on
53:35
the government to change their policy to
53:37
start allowing companies to begin at
53:40
least producing tests is that correct
53:42
it’s partially correct I don’t know all
53:46
the companies that have that have been
53:50
attempting to produce the tests right if
53:53
we said if I tried to give you a number
53:55
on how many companies are attempting to
53:56
manufacture chest right now
53:58
I would be making up a number I don’t I
53:59
don’t know okay um there there’s so many
54:02
different pharmaceutical companies and
54:03
different biotech companies that have
54:05
the ability to make the kind of tests
54:07
that would exist for this but how many
54:09
of them are currently doing so I’m not
54:11
sure right right but but but they would
54:14
say yeah I would say that her saying
54:18
publicly that the disease is already
54:22
here
54:22
we found it we’ve contained it but we’ve
54:25
we’ve got to do something now because
54:27
it’s already here we’ve you there’s
54:29
there’s the point of the easiest way to
54:33
prevent disasters to keep Pandora’s Box
54:35
closed and she’s just the first person
54:38
who pointed out well it’s open what do
54:39
we do right and it’s one of those where
54:46
there’s obviously reason why you would
54:50
want pharmaceutical companies and
54:51
biotech companies and whoever else is
54:53
making their tests or new drugs or
54:54
whatever they’re making to have it
54:56
tested and verified before you release
54:59
it to the public right right but we
55:01
should have been doing these kind of
55:02
things years ago right and we didn’t or
55:08
at least Mike or at least months ago
55:10
once it was out there or at least
55:12
allowing these other can writing tests
55:13
from other countries to come in so but
55:15
what did change policy-wise was that the
55:18
I from what I read the CDC went from
55:21
requiring that you get their
55:23
authorization before you start testing
55:25
too that you had to submit once you
55:28
started testing you had to submit within
55:29
15 or 30 days but you could already be
55:31
in testing or something like that so
55:33
there was some policy change that now
55:35
allowed for there to be tests
55:36
one of our commenters actually asked for
55:38
some clarification she said we are still
55:41
under a hundred confirm occasion
55:45
confirmed cases I think she means deaths
55:47
but she said and the actions being taken
55:49
or not foul no that was the wrong one um
55:54
we’ll talk about that in a second she
55:56
said so we have positive results popping
55:58
up everywhere for tests approve or not
55:59
tests are out there can you clarify that
56:01
some more because there would be
56:02
confusion and inaccurate to say tests
56:04
are not available when they are and many
56:06
more released and being shipped right
56:08
now but the problem is that the number
56:10
being shipped isn’t even remotely close
56:12
to what’s needed is that correct correct
56:14
the number being shipped and the number
56:17
that would have been needed weeks ago
56:20
was far too low so we needed to have all
56:24
the like the amount of focus is being
56:26
done this being shifted toward testing
56:28
right now and should have been done six
56:30
weeks ago when they confirmed that this
56:33
that they had a case in Washington in
56:36
January the 15th by January 30th there
56:42
should have been this level of testing
56:44
effort maybe not quarantines but more
56:46
testing because you have confirmation of
56:49
this virus on US soil going through at
56:52
least one Airport I don’t know because
56:54
he’s in Seattle I don’t know if you
56:55
change at LAX or whatever but run in at
56:57
least one airman were you had a patient
56:59
with this virus that was contagious who
57:02
did not show symptoms until after he had
57:05
gone home and gone to work for a few
57:07
days it’s this period of time later we
57:10
are still working with a critically low
57:13
number of tests that are available and
57:16
from the numbers that we have from the
57:18
tests available it’s not enough to print
57:20
on to make concrete projections about
57:23
what the infection rate is in the United
57:25
States right it’s and it’s that’s that’s
57:30
the biggest thing for it right now is
57:32
that we don’t even know who has it and
57:34
if we had figured out earlier in the
57:37
process who has it where have they been
57:41
how long has it been incubated
57:43
everything else then it wouldn’t be
57:45
necessary to quarantine it would be
57:47
necessary to go through this much
57:48
trouble if we
57:49
tested like a few people in the Seattle
57:52
area
57:53
the day after he was admitted to the
57:55
hospital right and said that day
57:59
everybody who you know has been in an
58:02
airport or has you know had contact with
58:04
people who were traveling medias he’s
58:05
from China or whatever go get tested
58:08
right now we wouldn’t be in this mess
58:11
right but if I remember correctly there
58:14
is a story
58:15
we’re in Oklahoma they tested the entire
58:18
staff of the Oklahoma of the Oklahoma
58:21
City Thunder and that was all of the
58:23
tests that they had in the state of
58:25
Oklahoma
58:25
for that time period so they tested a
58:30
basketball team and the people who
58:32
travel with them and that was all that
58:34
they tested in those was a for that day
58:37
yeah and I mean I’m not I’m not mad at
58:42
like whoever was you know on that team
58:45
for getting tested but like why did we
58:47
only have 50 tests right it’s not- more
58:50
than a million people yeah it’s not it’s
58:51
not who got tested it’s why were there
58:53
that few in the first place and then and
58:54
then another question from the this the
58:56
same person which this is a
58:57
misconception that we need to clear up I
58:59
said we are still under 100 he said
59:01
cases but I think she means death
59:02
confirmed deaths and the actions being
59:04
taken are not fast enough yet thousands
59:06
died with past pandemics and zero was
59:09
done the economy went on and nothing
59:11
shut down why is that explained that’s
59:14
not that’s not true thank you
59:17
the simple way of explaining that is
59:19
that this used to be I mean if you look
59:22
at let’s say the Spanish flu or anything
59:26
any other past pandemic that had a
59:28
mortality rate that was above like the
59:31
regular like the annual flu were half
59:33
now right there was regular economic
59:37
setback associated with losing this many
59:40
people every year yeah with you know the
59:44
fact that you’re losing this many
59:46
children out of elementary schools every
59:48
year that and are not economic oh they
59:52
didn’t shut down you know name of
59:55
business is currently shut down it
59:57
didn’t shut it down when we had the
59:58
Spanish flu or they didn’t shut it down
60:00
when we had polio or they did show that
60:01
we had whatever else
60:04
the economy went on is um and a lot of
60:10
people died it’s just that we don’t look
60:12
back on those pandemics as oh this
60:14
caused the Great Depression it’s like no
60:16
people were just accustomed to you know
60:19
high infant mortality rates are high
60:21
childhood mortality rates a lower life
60:24
expectancy and a lower standard of
60:27
living overall it wasn’t that there was
60:29
a giant setbacks that never happened
60:30
before uh no it was it was a Poe who
60:34
were used to losing one out of every
60:35
five children that was born so you know
60:38
if another one out of five children died
60:40
after that they were more adjusted to
60:42
that we’re not used to that level of
60:44
death and mayhem is just a regular thing
60:46
also something I need to add to this if
60:50
you look at a 2% death rate which in
60:53
Italy is much higher because of the
60:54
strain that they have on their hospital
60:56
system if 2% of Americans died that’s
61:01
seven that’s almost seven million people
61:04
if 10 percent of them died that’s 32
61:07
million people 12,000 people died of
61:11
h1n1 around 60,000 people died of the
61:14
flu we are talking several not just
61:16
several times but adding extra one night
61:19
when we say orders of magnitude that’s
61:20
how many zeros you add to the end we’re
61:22
talking several more zeros added to the
61:25
end of the sheer number of people dying
61:27
and that’s before you factor in if 20%
61:29
of Americans require emergency
61:32
respiratory care in a hospital when
61:35
maybe one out of 10,000 could get it at
61:38
the same time without putting a strain
61:39
on the system this gives you an idea of
61:42
the kind of apocalyptic scenario that
61:45
you know people are trying to avoid
61:46
which the government imposed upon us but
61:49
the idea that this is some kind of
61:50
overreaction is the exact opposite we
61:53
are under reacting to what this is what
61:57
we under reacted already right I don’t
61:59
know that for instance they’re saying
62:03
that we may be on under this kind of
62:06
quarantine for 18 months that is an
62:08
overreaction that is entirely too early
62:11
to speculate about something that’s
62:12
gonna lie that would be yes based on
62:14
this yeah yeah I’ve seen that number
62:16
thrown
62:17
that is a that is a nonsense number if
62:21
we’re still doing this in 18 months that
62:22
is ridiculous and that the corporate
62:24
kind of failure of course the the under
62:26
reaction that we had is not what we’re
62:28
doing now is what we did in January we
62:30
under reaction horribly in January we
62:33
under acted horribly for the entire
62:35
month of February and for basically the
62:37
first half of March because until about
62:40
the time that the NBA shut down and
62:42
Donald Trump was in the room with the
62:44
vice president of Brazil who popped
62:45
positive for it this was fake right this
62:48
was a democratic hoax to tank the stock
62:51
market and had absolutely nothing to do
62:53
with Donald Trump yelling at the Federal
62:55
Reserve for five years not knowing what
62:57
inflation is until drop interest rates
62:59
but I mean we our government agencies
63:05
are essentially headed by a guy who took
63:07
out a Sharpie to adjust the projections
63:11
of a hurricane because he mentioned has
63:13
made it yeah because he made a typo in a
63:15
tweet that’s who’s in charge of whether
63:18
or not our country can test for
63:20
pandemics all right at a time it’s not a
63:24
guy who in 2018 by the way this is kind
63:28
of going back a little bit but it goes
63:29
back to like the the overall issue here
63:32
in 2018 the head of the CDC resigned her
63:38
name was Brenda Fitzgerald she was the
63:42
director of the CDC she resigned because
63:45
uh she had been hiding the fact that she
63:49
purchased stock in tobacco companies but
63:55
that’s the kind of like political
63:58
influence that our government has into
64:02
our health care system so she was the
64:05
head of the CDC and was was was invested
64:09
in tobacco companies correct yeah
64:12
so that’s a load of that was that that’s
64:14
a little bit of the de bellas dealing
64:15
there yeah yeah that was the Department
64:18
of Health and Human Services let that
64:20
happen like that was something that they
64:23
just accepted and it wasn’t until it
64:26
leaked to the media that she owned stock
64:28
in tobacco companies that she resigned
64:33
like that’s that’s our political
64:36
influence into medicine in the United
64:38
States yep
64:39
it’s which is why as libertarians we
64:42
believe that removing the political
64:44
influence on on health care the best way
64:46
to do that is to have it as a market
64:49
action as opposed to you know it have it
64:52
as an a political action based on the
64:56
supply and demand as opposed to based on
64:58
what a politician wants to try to get
65:00
reelected on in in in what is
65:02
unfortunately an election year because
65:04
that couldn’t possibly make it even more
65:06
partisan and terrible so something we’re
65:09
gonna we’re gonna bring up so because of
65:11
that failure and continued failure
65:15
we now have widespread bands on
65:18
gatherings of as few as 10 people in
65:21
some states as sort of I guess an
65:24
overcorrection to the fact that we have
65:26
no clue who was infected so you can
65:28
argue that it isn’t even an
65:29
overcorrection but it’s saying a major
65:31
correction from major move in the
65:33
opposite direction from the you know
65:36
that oh who knows who has it um so we’re
65:39
something just assuming everyone has I
65:41
would say that it I would say it’s far
65:43
too early to say that’s an
65:44
overcorrection if it’s a sea-change know
65:47
who has it
65:48
right uh but it is some it is absolutely
65:52
something that we could have avoided if
65:54
we had acted appropriately at an earlier
65:57
stage but we did right so I don’t want
66:00
it I don’t want to say that what we’re
66:01
doing now is an overreaction because
66:04
it’s too early to say whether that’s an
66:05
overreaction right um because if you
66:07
look at if you look at the information
66:12
being released and you look at what the
66:13
people who make these decision are
66:15
actually doing themselves there’s a
66:18
reason that I’m the only person in this
66:20
building right now the faculties at home
66:22
you know I’m I’m here because if you
66:26
have experiments that work on animals
66:28
you have to check in on them but the the
66:32
majority of people who work for medical
66:36
schools non-essential hospital personnel
66:40
the people who work for like you know
66:43
research
66:44
these biotech companies whatever if you
66:47
can work from home they’re doing it too
66:50
right exactly so there’s some debate
66:54
there’s not really much debate that
66:56
self-quarantine en social distancing
66:59
really flattened this thing and helped
67:01
it contain it or at least mitigate it
67:03
there is some debate as to whether the
67:05
bans on on on you know on on gatherings
67:09
and things like that how effective those
67:11
are I saw a model where they showed that
67:13
the the travel bans that were put in
67:16
place within China weren’t actually that
67:17
effective because it caused people to
67:19
panic and get out of places and travel
67:21
even more than they would have so it’s
67:22
arguable whether that works or not with
67:24
that being said you know I tend to think
67:26
that people would be a lot people be a
67:28
lot better off if we would just simply
67:30
realize what we’re facing and make smart
67:33
choices regardless of what governments
67:35
telling us if they’re telling us to do
67:36
this and it happens to be a good idea
67:38
then we do it because it was a good idea
67:39
if government says do this and it’s not
67:41
a good idea then we don’t do it if
67:42
government says you don’t have to do
67:44
this but we find out it’s a good idea do
67:45
it like do it because it’s a good idea
67:46
don’t worry about what government saying
67:48
now something that Stephen Biggs one of
67:50
our one of our follower one of our
67:51
viewers brought up is you know he gets
67:53
the the benefits of quarantine but he’s
67:56
curious you know he of our thoughts on
67:57
the economic impact of this you know
68:00
this reality that we’re telling people
68:02
to stay away from each other and not
68:03
work during a time that the Fed is
68:05
cutting reserve requirements to zero so
68:09
banks don’t have to have any any any
68:10
money in the bank right at a time when
68:13
people are having to dip into whatever
68:14
money they might have in the pink to pay
68:17
you know pay their bills and pay for
68:18
basic goods and services that is going
68:22
to lead to a run on the banks
68:23
this just kind of underscores yet
68:25
another reason over and above just
68:27
avoiding deaths why we need to try to
68:30
contain this by testing for it the
68:33
moment we know it’s here right the the
68:38
it’s really really hard to like to talk
68:43
about the mitigating factors of like how
68:45
do you avoid the disaster when you’ve
68:48
already lit the fuse you’re just wait
68:49
like the fuses between 14 and 30 days
68:53
long we don’t even know what the effect
68:55
is going to be yet
68:58
and we won’t know for a while so we’re
69:05
right at the folks were riding this one
69:06
out because the way to avoid this was to
69:09
never be in this situation exactly and
69:11
we had and we’re not getting out of it
69:15
we’re riding this knocking this out
69:17
there’s no way there’s no way out no way
69:19
around this was not yes we can do right
69:22
now is to encourage whoever is producing
69:28
these tests to do so effectively right
69:33
and quickly and distribute them rapidly
69:37
know and go from there
69:39
but companies until very recently
69:43
weren’t even allowed to distribute the
69:45
tests and it’s actually from it’s from
69:49
the same New York Times article that you
69:52
would post it earlier with dr. chu with
69:54
dr. too
69:55
yeah so this is just an image from that
69:58
article new test gives me require
69:59
validation running a test unknown
70:01
positive samples from a from a patient
70:03
or a copy of the virus genome the FDA’s
70:05
process calls for five obtaining such
70:08
samples have been hard because most
70:10
hospital labs have not seen the karela
70:12
virus at time of publication so they
70:17
didn’t even have the ability they had to
70:19
have five different positive tests
70:21
before ever seeing the virus in order to
70:25
validate the test couldn’t we have done
70:27
that in a lab like six months ago I didn
70:30
t have samples of this virus flows into
70:32
the freezer somewhere because corona
70:34
virus is not new it’s the strain of it
70:36
that came out this year that’s you know
70:38
that’s very quickly but this is not we
70:42
could have tested for this in a lab and
70:43
had these tests out and about with
70:46
plenty of time to go I know that there’s
70:48
thousands of viruses out there that like
70:50
haven’t you know been exposed to
70:51
humanity yet so there’s reasons there’s
70:54
legitimate reasons why these tests may
70:55
not exist and that’s fine
70:56
but once you know as they new in January
71:01
that this existed you have to go that
71:05
day your job starts right then you have
71:08
to move on this and in
71:11
February it was fake in early March it
71:14
was fake
71:15
yeah until until the NBA pronounced and
71:19
billion dollar through st. started
71:21
saying of course the private sector
71:23
responds faster of course but the NBA
71:27
independent of the government said this
71:29
is fake we’re not new like new this is
71:31
real this is not faith this is a real
71:33
life this is not a democratic hoax yeah
71:35
yeah yeah and this is a danger to our
71:38
employees and our customers first you
71:41
continue operating in this manner we’re
71:43
shutting down you know and it wasn’t
71:45
until after the NBA did that and after
71:48
major league baseball did that and a few
71:51
other sports started doing that and then
71:55
the government took notice
71:56
yeah it shouldn’t take Adam silver to
71:59
convince the CDC to act right right so
72:04
for my Trump supporting followers out
72:06
there first of all um freedom no I
72:09
actually quite a few way I up I have a
72:11
very large Trump supporting contingent I
72:13
invited my viewing my I’m not sure what
72:16
pipeline I’m creating here but it’s a
72:18
scary one because I have viewers across
72:20
the political spectrum and I love all of
72:21
them I need you guys to consider the
72:23
possibility that the reason that Italy
72:27
and South Korea and China and and Iran
72:30
and the US and Canada and an increasing
72:33
number of countries are dealing with a
72:34
health care crisis and seeing their
72:36
hospitals fill up with sick and dying
72:38
people that they don’t have enough
72:40
resources to treat I need you to
72:41
consider the possibility that that isn’t
72:43
happening as some kind of scam to make
72:46
Donald Trump look bad prior to the
72:48
election like I I just I I would like
72:51
you to consider that possibility that
72:53
this has nothing to do with whether or
72:55
not Donald Trump gets reelected in
72:58
November that this is maybe a thing
73:00
that’s actually happening to people I
73:02
lovingly encourage that so yeah the the
73:05
Iranian sanctions are really helping out
73:09
with their ability to treat and anyway
73:11
that’s really you know yeah I mean
73:13
that’s that’s a that’s definitely not
73:16
cruel and unusual or just you know
73:19
intentionally kicking somebody while
73:21
they’re down because you don’t like them
73:23
yep exactly
73:24
no that’s
73:25
I mean shout-out to him in the yeah
73:27
shoutout to Yemen yeah Yemen’s getting
73:28
all the the materials they need they’re
73:31
just exploding um so anyway so of course
73:36
we’re still not doing widespread testing
73:38
so as we know I’m gonna make a lot of
73:41
fans on this show there is a that by the
73:43
way this show is usually a lot more
73:44
funny than this easily more humorous
73:46
show but this is a why don’t you make my
73:55
dammit why don’t you make it the
73:56
pandemic funny or Jordan Kahn um so as
73:59
we know there is a fairly sizable group
74:03
in the u.s. many of them in libertarian
74:05
circles but really across the spectrum
74:06
who say that they are prepared for
74:09
everything from economic collapse to
74:11
nuclear war to a foreign invasion at the
74:13
Boogaloo to that thing that happened in
74:17
revolution where the power stopped
74:18
working forever and everything in
74:20
between they are ready for anything that
74:22
that happens many of these people are
74:24
currently having an extremely difficult
74:26
time with the fact that they can’t
74:27
attend football games temporarily do you
74:29
have any thoughts on that phenomenon uh
74:34
as someone who lives in a hurricane
74:36
solid and I know that you do too because
74:38
you look at Myrtle Beach right oh yeah
74:39
as someone who lives in a hurricane zone
74:42
on a regular basis I am prepared just
74:46
because they tell everybody who lives in
74:48
hurricane zones have a set amount of
74:51
supplies that will ask you for about a
74:52
month if you lose water if you lose
74:55
power and if you lose the ability to
74:58
leave your home like if something
75:00
happens to your car you just can’t go
75:02
anywhere which have been assertive
75:03
people yeah the number of people who
75:06
were not prepared apparently to leave
75:08
their own bathrooms horrifies me on like
75:11
a visceral level it was just it’s
75:14
disturbing for me to see like not even
75:18
anything that has like happened yet but
75:21
people bought stores out of essential
75:24
supplies because apparently one they
75:27
didn’t have them they didn’t have it in
75:29
two they thought they thought that this
75:31
is the thing that you whored know but
75:33
like it’s
75:35
I know it’s anecdotal data but whatever
75:37
my local public
75:38
the canned food aisle is fine not here
75:43
the the water bottle and toilet paper
75:46
aisles are empty people do not know how
75:50
to prepare for disaster at all because
75:52
it like and it would be different if
75:56
like dysentery was the outbreak but
76:00
right but but what of all the things
76:05
that you’re gonna decide that you’re
76:06
gonna stock up on why is toilet paper
76:07
name a household of three people uses 50
76:11
rolls of toilet paper in two months some
76:14
of you all have a lot of toilet paper I
76:16
don’t know what you think is gonna be
76:17
coming out when you run out of food
76:19
because like it’s like rice and canned
76:23
foods imagine a scenario and you’re
76:25
right Jordan a lot of people right now
76:26
are not used to the idea of a semi
76:28
apocalyptic event that could affect them
76:30
for weeks like we are imagine but I live
76:34
in Florida we have power outages at last
76:37
for weeks at a time sometimes along with
76:41
you know 300 mile per hour winds or
76:43
whatever it was that hit us last year
76:45
braver and and nobody other than the
76:48
people who like get hit in that initial
76:50
you know the brunt of the storm you
76:54
don’t hear about people you know dying
76:57
of exposure in the months following a
76:59
hurricane right whereas people are
77:01
prepared for it right how do people
77:03
nationwide not know hey buy food that’s
77:06
not gonna go bad if we leave the house
77:07
buy food that’s not gonna go bad if the
77:10
power plant shuts down for a period of a
77:12
few weeks because there’s a there’s an
77:14
outbreak there and they have to sanitize
77:15
it or something like I don’t think we’re
77:17
gonna end up in a in a Stone Age
77:19
situation where we don’t have power or
77:20
water for months at a time or anything
77:22
like that but we could have brownouts we
77:24
could have blackouts we could have
77:25
temporary situations where there is no
77:27
power or whatever you got you know all
77:29
that all the freaking hot dogs you went
77:30
out and bought and stacked in the fridge
77:31
aren’t gonna be good after a couple days
77:34
because you know or a few days if you
77:36
keep the fridge closed which probably
77:38
won’t you probably be panicking all the
77:39
time uh uh you know that the possibility
77:42
that you’re going to be living on like
77:43
canned goods and and you know a propane
77:44
heater and propane a cooker and you know
77:49
like ways to cook your food without
77:51
power
77:52
that’s in a sustainable way not just you
77:54
know camping once but like eating that
77:55
way for weeks maybe or earliest days um
77:58
I was shocked by just the sheer number
78:00
of people who apparently didn’t have any
78:02
soap like what have you like mm-hmm
78:05
don’t wait people I’ve saw people what
78:07
do you mean I have to wash my hands five
78:09
times a day and I’m like you haven’t
78:10
been washing your hands five times a day
78:12
like it’s just right have it how many
78:14
times it deserves me when those two
78:17
things work together one that people
78:19
apparently need this much toilet paper
78:20
right and this is a necessary thing and
78:23
also that they don’t need that much soap
78:26
like what is your life like that you
78:29
have this much toilet paper and don’t
78:31
wash your hands what are you doing what
78:33
are you doing like it’s at this point
78:36
I’m just surprised that we haven’t all
78:37
died of hepatitis before now certainly
78:39
people don’t know how indoor plumbing
78:41
works it’s it’s crazy
78:42
Adam Kara Bochy says no need to go crazy
78:45
over water stock get a water filter
78:47
that’s true and ideal situations Adams
78:48
but we we here me and Jordan I don’t
78:52
know where you live Adam but we we often
78:55
sometimes once a year deal with the
78:58
situations in which we either don’t have
79:00
water because you know because you know
79:03
everything is off the grid is off or uh
79:06
because of flooding now that that’s not
79:08
gonna affect us in this situation
79:09
necessarily but because of flooding the
79:11
water is no good you can’t have it that
79:12
the water tables risen to the point
79:14
where you know it’s infected so so no
79:17
you kind of do need at least some
79:18
bottled water in this case right no
79:20
that’s that’s less likely obviously I’m
79:23
less likely it’s less likely in this
79:25
situation that we’re gonna have like
79:27
massive blackouts all right a loss of
79:30
water quality or whatever yeah I can say
79:32
that from I have family that works for
79:35
the Power Company and they were for
79:37
Georgia Power where they’re sending
79:39
people out to like restore power lines
79:41
that like just regular occasions a tree
79:43
will fall down over a neighborhood
79:46
they’re sending two-man crews to repair
79:49
it because they don’t want more than
79:51
five people together at a time right so
79:54
it’s more like snow mounds of stuff like
79:55
if you lose your power you might instead
79:57
of not having it for a few hours it
79:59
might be two or three days that you
80:00
don’t have it but it’s not like this
80:02
widespread yeah yeah in this case it’s
80:05
like a few ow
80:06
but it’s a few hours instead of like you
80:08
know we’ll have it back on in 15 minutes
80:10
it’s right right okay we’ll have it
80:12
we’ll have it you know back on quickly
80:14
but we’re gonna have it back on quickly
80:15
with a two or three man crew instead of
80:17
a five or six man crew or whatever they
80:19
normally run we’re just trying to keep
80:20
their numbers look right and so that’s
80:23
just the number of people who claim that
80:26
they’re prepared for everything who
80:27
immediately either didn’t react or
80:30
completely lost their minds when this
80:33
happened I don’t have any faith in our
80:35
survival abilities if something bad
80:38
kicks off in a hurry yeah it might be
80:42
our saving grace that this has a low you
80:45
know a long incubation period because
80:47
god help us if all of this hit at once
80:49
if we all just got sick immediately then
80:51
it would be like ah yeah no that’s a
80:53
good point so it’s kind of it kind of
80:55
spares us from our own human nature that
80:57
we might it might even be 30 days that
81:00
it takes for some of us to get it and
81:01
most of us aren’t even gonna even though
81:02
it means it’s gonna spread way more the
81:04
idea of like even 10% of us just give
81:06
really getting sick real quickly might
81:08
scare the crap out of everyone even more
81:09
it’s it’s a brightening thing man like I
81:12
mean I have people who straight up are
81:13
like you know they’re ready for freaking
81:14
nuclear winter but man what do you mean
81:17
I can’t go to the bar and it’s like guys
81:19
like right what did you think I was
81:23
gonna be open during nuclear winter yeah
81:26
like did you think that you know the
81:28
NFL’s still gonna be gone like I don’t
81:30
care how good the Braves are if the
81:32
bombs drop the Braves aren’t playing
81:33
like this is not like I don’t Florida
81:38
State was a top five team right we were
81:42
going like we won the ACC and but not
81:46
even having the tournament if people are
81:47
so angry about that and we’re just kind
81:48
of sitting in a medical school going
81:50
like what are you doing we’re trained
81:52
why is this why is this your problem
81:55
right now oh and what really made a
81:57
matter so I’ve been telling people
81:58
listen you know we want you to not die
82:00
and here are the things we’d like you to
82:01
do I made the mistake of telling people
82:03
that you know maybe your kids and pets
82:05
aren’t thrilled to have you home all day
82:06
either and they got even more angry
82:08
about that than about the dying thing
82:10
like how dare you assert that my pets
82:13
don’t want me around them all the time
82:14
my pets don’t need personal space anyway
82:16
so so I want to talk about
82:19
we do currently have some drugs there
82:22
are currently some drugs for HIV and I
82:24
believe Ebola that may there’s been some
82:27
anecdotal evidence that seems to have
82:29
some promise in treating kovat 19 you
82:31
just said there was just something that
82:32
came up to be using para right right
82:36
okay so one of the earlier announcements
82:38
today and granted I don’t want to like
82:40
there’s so much information coming out
82:43
about this every day that I don’t want
82:44
to give like any solid numbers or a
82:47
solid like this is the new development
82:50
and then we find out tomorrow that it
82:51
you know is not true
82:53
but I can say that about an hour before
82:56
we went on and then earlier today there
83:02
were announcements from I believe the
83:05
World Health Organization about which
83:07
drugs you can use to treat the symptoms
83:09
of koban 19 okay
83:11
the original statements were that for
83:17
whatever reason anti-inflammatory drugs
83:19
such as ibuprofen were not recommended
83:24
because the nature of the
83:25
anti-inflammatory drugs could aggravate
83:28
the infection and they were recommending
83:31
acetaminophen instead of ibuprofen but
83:38
telling people to be very careful with
83:40
the use of acetaminophen because if you
83:42
take too much of it it can cause liver
83:43
problems and other like related things
83:46
the problem is that anything that gets
83:48
posted on the internet now it’s just a
83:51
media source reposting a government
83:54
agency which is supposedly citing some
83:59
scientist whose only study that came out
84:01
right right right right so this was so
84:05
okay so they’re saying stay away from NS
84:07
aids and focus on acetaminophen
84:09
even though usually they tell you to
84:10
alternate between them to avoid too much
84:13
damage to a specific organ because one
84:15
works through one organ and one filters
84:17
through the other so they I know when I
84:19
had the flu they said alternate between
84:20
tylenol which is acetaminophen and
84:22
ibuprofen which is died before fit um
84:24
right so what is the other one Paris you
84:28
were saying pear or something but that’s
84:29
still symptom ology trip that’s still
84:31
symptomatic treatment that’s not
84:32
actually treating the
84:33
right see that’s the thing there’s of
84:36
back-and-forth sources saying whether or
84:39
not to use ibuprofen right depending on
84:42
like I’m looking at this is I’ve just
84:45
got my laptop open from me channel 4.com
84:48
which is from the UK I believe right
84:51
yeah BBC four yeah yeah so this is
84:54
saying that the release came from France
84:59
which was the original source saying not
85:00
to use ibuprofen but the BBC channel 4
85:05
is saying that we’ve seen lurid fake
85:08
messages circulating about the supposed
85:10
dangers of people with coronavirus
85:11
symptoms taking anti-inflammatory drugs
85:14
like ibuprofen these scare stories are
85:16
not true and doctors say that there are
85:18
good reasons to prefer acetaminophen to
85:21
ibuprofen the latest
85:22
NHS advices there’s no strong evidence
85:24
ibuprofen worsens the symptoms of code
85:26
19 but recommend that people take
85:30
acetaminophen Paris
85:32
well paracetamol which is another word
85:34
for it advil and okay so is known so
85:37
paracetamol is just another word for
85:39
acetaminophen yeah it’s okay okay okay
85:42
the the brands are tylenol matpat fever
85:47
all tell the fin off our bed at all and
85:51
you know it’s yeah just the different
85:55
brands of this over-the-counter pain
85:57
reliever which you might be taking to
85:59
treat symptoms of coronavirus there’s
86:02
bet like every time something comes out
86:05
about like what possible thing should be
86:07
done you know there’s an immediately a
86:10
conflicting media story saying that
86:12
either this is a hoax or that this is
86:14
true within the media stories just argue
86:17
over each other so and I know people are
86:21
taking this stuff as gospel running to
86:22
the store and buying all of the
86:23
acetaminophen on the shelf like right
86:25
right right right and this is like this
86:28
is saying that like it came from a news
86:31
story from France which was contradicted
86:34
by the NHS and Great Britain and came to
86:38
the US and people are arguing over like
86:42
whether or not this source or this
86:44
source is correct about whether or not
86:46
to take ibuprofen
86:47
for the symptoms of coronavirus keeping
86:50
in mind that you could have a cough and
86:54
a headache without being positive for
86:57
the coronavirus because it’s also
86:59
allergy season it’s allergy season in
87:01
it’s flu and cold season I’ve been
87:03
having stuffy throat and stuff and I
87:04
keep checking myself for fever and have
87:06
none so I’m pretty sure it’s just like a
87:08
you know a sinus thing or whatever and I
87:10
went to the doctor and she said yeah
87:11
there’s no redness you’re not you’re not
87:13
sick sick you’re just dealing with 80%
87:15
of people are walking around it’s it’s
87:17
yellow outside like we’re in the deep
87:18
side it’s freaking yellow outside the
87:22
first day of the supposed you know
87:24
social isolation quarantine I walked
87:26
outside and my car was breathe if I
87:29
gonna close this down so there’s there’s
87:32
that much pollen in the air of course
87:33
people are coughing and have runny noses
87:35
and watery eyes or whatever else it’s
87:37
because like there’s other things it
87:39
could be and so people are like there’s
87:42
always the freak out of like this is a
87:44
disease this is what other people think
87:46
the disease is they’re usually some
87:48
discrepancy between those two things
87:50
where and then there’s what people do in
87:52
like a knee-jerk reaction to thinking
87:54
that they have the disease correct which
87:56
is by everything that they might
87:59
possibly ever need regardless of whether
88:01
or not we’re going to need it they’d all
88:02
of Italy ever know what they need and
88:04
buy all of it buy all of it on the shelf
88:06
not just like I mean so I went out and
88:09
got some extra acetaminophen and extra
88:10
ibuprofen I got to 180 or 204 whatever
88:14
the big thing I got two of those that
88:16
should cover us for a couple months if
88:17
we all got sick so people like clearing
88:20
the shelves I’m like what like you have
88:22
20 people living at home you think this
88:24
is gonna last a decade like what what
88:26
are you preparing for and why is there
88:28
no rice in your car sir like you know
88:30
like what if we per se are you gonna
88:32
trade this for rice with other people in
88:34
this new Barger society when our
88:35
economic system collapsed like what
88:37
precisely are you doing here so okay so
88:39
there are some treatments that have come
88:41
out that might potentially actually
88:43
reduce the intensity sort of like a
88:46
Tamiflu Fork Ovid so there’s like a HIV
88:49
drug and an Ebola drug it’s way too
88:50
early to know if those are effective but
88:52
with right to try laws and other
88:54
countries that don’t even have such a
88:55
thing you can just use it we’re gonna
88:57
find out soon enough of those work we
88:58
also potentially have a vaccine
89:01
that or many vaccines that are being
89:03
worked on that could be ready for wide
89:05
distribution within the next year to 18
89:07
months here’s my question I am NOT an
89:10
anti-vaxxer I don’t care I’m probably
89:14
already mildly on the spectrum anyway so
89:16
if this helped push me over to I’m not
89:17
worried about that
89:18
like seriously um so but but would that
89:22
said how confident are you in having
89:25
basically every non infected person on
89:28
earth injected with a vaccine that could
89:31
that would have basically just been
89:33
fresh out of clinical trials do these
89:35
kinds of vaccines typically have like a
89:37
safe enough safety profile that we’re
89:39
confident and giving almost everyone on
89:42
earth a shot of something that we don’t
89:46
have 20 years of studies to show if it’s
89:48
safe or not well it depends on what kind
89:51
of whether or not it’s going to be I
89:54
don’t know what kind of viruses or
89:56
whether or not they’re using like a live
89:57
virus or attenuated virus or dead virus
89:59
or whether or not they’re using viral
90:00
coat proteins I don’t know if covin 19 I
90:04
don’t know the the mutation rate so for
90:07
instance the flu the flu we have the
90:10
same basic formula that comes out every
90:12
year and they’ve just changed the
90:14
strains of the flu that they’re
90:16
vaccinating for in that strain or in
90:19
that shot hmm
90:20
they take the top three or four
90:21
whichever the most common strains that
90:23
they think based on projection of the
90:24
previous year put that in the vaccine
90:26
and that’s the vaccine that goes out for
90:28
distribution and then the effectiveness
90:30
rate based on you know immunity people
90:32
to those strains is various year-to-year
90:36
it’s obviously not 100 affected because
90:37
the vaccine is based on three strains
90:40
and there’s so many strains the flu you
90:42
can’t get them all right right um with
90:45
the corona virus I don’t think we know
90:49
the mutation rate yet I don’t think we
90:51
know if somebody knows I don’t I’m not
90:54
going to speculate on something I’m not
90:55
gonna give you an answer that I don’t
90:56
know for sure I’m not gonna have this
90:58
light you know I’m not gonna but if it’s
91:01
the only thing that they’re changing is
91:03
from previous vaccines is like the viral
91:07
coat protein that is within the vaccine
91:09
that is being sent out then the same
91:12
ingredients would in theory be used to
91:14
treat that
91:15
the same flu shot that comes out I say
91:17
the same a different flu shot comes out
91:20
every year with the same materials the
91:23
same ingredients the same set list of
91:25
stuff that’s in it every year with a
91:28
different strain that is targeted by
91:31
that vaccine barring severe autoimmune
91:36
cases or giving the vaccine to a person
91:39
who’s already immunocompromised things
91:41
like that we’ve never seen other than
91:44
like you could have a contaminated batch
91:46
sometimes but I mean the vaccines are
91:49
not going to be the problem here the
91:50
problem presented mostly is that we
91:54
don’t know we don’t have that vaccine
91:56
yet we don’t know the the efficacy of
91:58
the vaccine so even if we have one that
92:00
produced that it’s safe we don’t know
92:01
the success rate of it we don’t know how
92:04
fast this particular strain of Kovach 19
92:06
is going to or that we don’t know how
92:08
fast this particular vaccine is going to
92:10
have to be updated right so we have to
92:12
update the flu every year if or how long
92:15
the immunity would or how long the
92:16
immunity would be because that’s another
92:17
question like right because we also have
92:20
to have for certain vaccines we have to
92:22
have a you know every decade we have to
92:24
have a booster or we have to have you
92:26
know a you know a series of shots like
92:28
we have to do for some of the hepatitis
92:31
vaccine so the MMR is or whatever my my
92:35
biggest concern with the vaccines is not
92:39
even that there won’t be one that will
92:41
be developed that will be effective and
92:42
safe and whatever else because we will
92:45
get that we will eventually I don’t know
92:47
how many trials going to take I don’t
92:48
know which company’s going to do it but
92:49
we’ll get one the thing that scared me
92:52
the most about the vaccines is that the
92:55
United States government tried to go to
92:56
companies and ask for exclusive rights
92:59
to vaccines that horrifies me on every
93:04
level and if that doesn’t scare you it
93:06
should because that means that you have
93:08
not ever paid attention to what the
93:10
United States government does when
93:12
they’re the only person in the world
93:13
that owns something and then tries to
93:15
charge for use of it yeah what is the
93:17
functional purpose that they then charge
93:19
other countries for or that they deny it
93:21
to countries that politically they don’t
93:23
like I’m I mean we’re already doing that
93:26
do i right that’s what I’m saying is
93:27
this truly
93:28
just to like make sure everyone in Iran
93:30
dies cuz screw them I mean is that like
93:32
what this is about I think because from
93:36
the it was from a German company yeah
93:40
that reported this to the to the
93:43
government within within Germany that
93:45
representatives a United States
93:46
government said that they were trying to
93:48
buy the exclusive rights to the vaccine
93:50
so that it would be used only within the
93:54
United States and of course well two
93:59
things one that’s incredibly incredibly
94:03
stupid to ask of a German research
94:07
company like hey I know that you’re
94:11
making this thing that prevents this
94:13
horrible disease can I give you money
94:15
and you’re not allowed to give it your
94:16
kids just asking for a friend
94:20
you know just whatever it’s bad enough
94:22
to ask an American company that but yeah
94:24
it’s like you can’t give this to your
94:26
kids or your friends or neighbors just
94:27
us right so that’s that’s a problem but
94:34
also the idea that somebody within the
94:37
United States government and I don’t
94:39
know I don’t know who gave the order for
94:42
that but it sounds familiar yeah it
94:45
doesn’t sound like it doesn’t sound like
94:47
something that came from like for
94:49
example a like rationally thinking at
94:52
all who sees any real functional purpose
94:55
to the US having exclusive use of a drug
94:58
whose purpose is to create herd immunity
95:00
so it doesn’t just endlessly spread
95:02
around the world that sounds like the
95:04
actions of oh I don’t know a man-child
95:06
who doesn’t really think through their
95:08
actions in any real way but just wants
95:10
it for me because it’s I’m I’m the best
95:13
well it sounds like this is pure
95:16
speculation of course if I were
95:19
constantly talking about how good I was
95:21
at trade deals and I had something that
95:26
prevents mass casualty yeah and I wanted
95:30
a negotiating chip
95:33
no that might come up that that’s just
95:38
me speculating but then but like you
95:42
said the idea of who would actually
95:43
participate in this idea that you give
95:46
them a certain amount of money and their
95:49
kids are still susceptible to it like
95:51
it’s a real level hutzpah to even
95:53
suggest that kind of a trade right it’s
95:57
it’s I’m not saying the person who had
96:00
this plan was smart but I’m not bad yeah
96:06
okay so then you’re out so then you’re
96:08
not willing to to because I said I’d be
96:10
lying if I said the idea of injecting
96:12
everyone who hadn’t gotten stick with
96:14
something that has been around awhile
96:15
didn’t scare me a little you you’re not
96:17
that’s not something that concerns you
96:19
in terms of safety these things are
96:20
usually pretty safe in terms of side
96:21
effects and stuff it’s more just how
96:23
effective it’s going to be in the first
96:24
place
96:25
right basically anyone who and they ask
96:28
you this when you get a flu shot or they
96:30
should
96:30
there are known risks to taking vaccines
96:34
which is why certain people can’t get
96:35
them they come people with autoimmune
96:37
disorders they tell people who are kids
96:40
who are too young to receive them people
96:42
who are you know undergoing other
96:44
medical treatments all right you know I
96:46
have very similar type one diabetes
96:48
multiple sclerosis
96:50
Sjogren’s syndrome fibromyalgia things
96:53
like that right can’t have these
96:54
vaccines because you can’t give someone
96:57
who’s already got a basically
96:59
overclocked immune system something
97:02
that’s going to ramp up their immune
97:03
system more right um so I so I have I
97:07
have MS and I take a immunomodulator for
97:11
it they don’t call it an
97:13
immunosuppressant even though it does
97:14
mildly suppress my immune system but not
97:16
enough for them to call it one or
97:17
whatever but it does change the profile
97:19
of my immune system and as a result of
97:21
that they tell me not to get the the the
97:26
live vaccine where you don’t have to get
97:28
an infection you don’t have to get
97:29
injected you you take it through your
97:31
nose or something so it’s a lot easier
97:32
they say if I’m gonna get a flu shot
97:34
then get the actual shot because that’s
97:36
the dead vaccine that there is some
97:38
possibility that I could actually get
97:40
the flu or have some kind of reaction to
97:42
the live vaccine um because of my
97:45
situation which is the reason why
97:47
they try to do herd immunity for people
97:48
like me in the case of me specifically I
97:51
can take the flu shot but there may be
97:53
other ones I can’t take and for example
97:55
someone who’s on chemotherapy with their
97:58
immune system yeah yeah I can’t take any
98:00
of them because their immune system shot
98:02
my immune system I went to to a
98:04
libertarian party convention in Georgia
98:06
that was one of the few people there
98:07
that didn’t get sick
98:08
turns out it’s because no one washes
98:10
their hands but me but that’s a whole
98:11
other subject apparently we’ve
98:13
discovered that no one want apparently
98:15
no one washes their hands but regardless
98:16
my immune system was strong enough for
98:17
me to be able to be around people and
98:19
not get sick even though they did but
98:20
someone on chemo they can’t do any of
98:23
that and they can’t take any of these
98:24
vaccines so the whole point is you know
98:26
muhurtam unity make sure that there’s as
98:29
many people that are immune to reduce
98:31
the risk of them getting it from you
98:33
know from someone else right and there’s
98:36
also I mean you’re gonna get being anti
98:39
vaccine it’s not a partisan issue it’s
98:41
not a left-right thing they have
98:42
different reasons for opposing it but I
98:44
mean it’s none of those reasons are
98:46
scientifically based right like people
98:48
one of the reasons one of these I’ve
98:50
asked if you’re getting the flu shot
98:51
they ask if you’re allergic to eggs or
98:53
chicken it’s because the flu shot is
98:56
cultured in chicken eggs oh really
98:58
so I can’t hide it then I’m allergic to
99:01
eggs have you had they never at low
99:04
depends on which string or which company
99:06
they’re ordering the vaccine from some
99:07
of them are culture to chicken eggs so
99:09
the last few years that I’ve gotten a
99:11
flu shot one of the questions that they
99:12
asked me before giving me the shot was
99:14
are you allergic to eggs and that was
99:18
one of things that they told us in our
99:19
immunology classes is that some of these
99:20
vaccines are cultured in chicken eggs
99:22
because you have to like they’re using
99:26
enzymes and just other different ends of
99:28
proteins from chicken or from the
99:30
chicken eggs to make the proteins which
99:32
are consistent in the vaccines which
99:35
aliens that explains how I got autism
99:37
there but yeah I’m less worried about
99:48
the side effects of vaccination they’re
99:52
very few they’re very minimal um there
99:55
are occasionally people who like
99:58
especially as young children who don’t
100:00
know
100:01
that they have an autoimmune disorder or
100:03
don’t know that they have because who’s
100:05
going to test a three-year-old or a
100:07
five-year-old for a relatively obscure
100:09
autoimmune disorder before you give them
100:11
their shots to go to kindergarten or
100:13
pre-k so if it’s a one in five thousand
100:16
shot you’re you’re not gonna ask that
100:20
you most you don’t even know to ask the
100:22
question before they get their kids
100:23
vaccines right all right and it’s gonna
100:26
be even if it’s one in five thousand
100:28
that’s still far less risk than actually
100:29
just letting them get covin and and get
100:31
sick from that so whatever it is it’s
100:33
gonna be I was thinking about measles
100:34
but yes basically that because we’ve had
100:38
measles outbreaks recently they just
100:40
weren’t like this widespread because
100:43
there is a vaccine for measles and most
100:45
people still take it it’s really one of
100:48
the interesting questions in the next
100:50
few years is going to be like how this
100:51
affects people’s opinions of health care
100:54
you know because if this is people are
100:57
finally getting to see like this is what
100:59
happens when you let something let this
101:02
kind of virus go unchecked yeah it’s
101:05
gonna be interesting to see whether or
101:07
not it you know inspires people to look
101:09
into actual medical sources about
101:12
vaccinations and read them thoroughly or
101:14
whether or not it turns people more
101:17
hardcore into all of this as a
101:20
government conspiracy because we get
101:21
quarantine for three months and I didn’t
101:22
even call one time right and it’s gonna
101:25
be interesting to see those two things
101:26
play out yeah I mean listen honestly the
101:29
whole time you’re talking I’m just
101:30
thinking this is the chemtrails talking
101:32
and I’m very sad for you I’m extremely
101:35
sad for you you know it’s sad that you
101:36
had such a young age you’ve already
101:38
you’re you’re frogs are already gay and
101:40
there’s no yeah I’m making the flow I’m
101:42
making the fluoride face the entire time
101:44
you’re making I’m sure it’s so like
101:45
there’s it’s you were talking about the
101:47
ants right the fluoride face so your
101:49
mates oh the animals you have those are
101:50
all gay frogs correct oh no those are
101:54
just well I have gay frogs because
101:55
they’re just a pet the animals that I
101:57
have here are actually just laboratory
101:58
animals that we maintain for the sake of
102:00
you know continuing our our regular work
102:03
with in medical research facilities
102:05
right so maintain as in convert to
102:08
homosexuality well most of them yes i we
102:12
have a few that we have a hybrid one
102:14
that we’re
102:14
that’s also trying to like the Katrina
102:18
no well I mean we don’t have enough
102:23
vaccines to do that yes now if you get
102:27
the GMO diet with the vaccine that might
102:30
be GMO fluoride vaccines and chemtrails
102:33
then you end up with you know with
102:36
gender dysphoria in a rat that makes
102:39
sense so okay speaking of judge speaking
102:41
I knew it you don’t know us a third a
102:48
third of my audience right now has
102:50
already put on the tinfoil just in case
102:53
just in case yeah
102:55
so speaking of drugs and treatments as
102:57
libertarians we already believe the war
102:59
on drugs is wrong it puts people in
103:00
cages for buying selling and using
103:03
substances in their own bodies it gives
103:05
people criminal records even though they
103:06
didn’t actually harm anyone else it
103:08
ruins their lives it drives the drug
103:11
market into the black market into the
103:13
criminal element which makes both the
103:15
the product and the suppliers more
103:17
dangerous it makes everything worse it
103:20
provides it gives government a way to
103:23
secretly and illegally fund their
103:25
clandestine intelligence operations
103:28
there’s nothing good about it in any
103:30
real way it drives racial divides it
103:32
enforces stereotype there’s nothing good
103:35
about the war on drugs something we
103:37
don’t talk about a lot and which you are
103:39
very familiar with is the fact that the
103:42
the war on drugs also makes it harder
103:44
for us for you I’m sitting in my guest
103:46
room I’m I’m not doing anything but it
103:49
makes it harder for you to find
103:52
treatments for illnesses tell us about
103:53
that
103:54
okay so we’ve obviously seen in the past
103:58
few years despite you know the
104:01
conspiracies at marijuana cures cancer
104:02
it doesn’t don’t don’t don’t get carried
104:05
away with this
104:06
but they’re more a yeah right but there
104:11
are plenty of examples of useful
104:14
treatments for drugs that have been
104:15
deemed illegal that we don’t actually
104:19
know that much about because it’s been
104:20
illegal to do these kinds of work using
104:23
them for this long there’s also within
104:28
drugs that are legal they’re not
104:30
accepted as legal use for other topics
104:33
for marijuana to be obviously being the
104:36
biggest one because it’s getting more
104:38
and more cleared on a state-by-state
104:39
level as legal for either medicinal or
104:42
recreational right um but that’s 50
104:48
years behind the curve right yeah like
104:52
not to mention you know the usefulness
104:54
of like CBD oil for you know fighting
104:57
inflammation or fighting you know people
105:00
who have seizure disorders or whatever
105:02
we could have had all of this decades
105:04
ago right and we just opted not to
105:07
because the government decided that it
105:12
was going to base policy on propagated
105:14
false so it’s about these substances
105:18
which even if they were exactly as
105:20
dangerous as they say they are which
105:23
they’re they’re not don’t even if they
105:25
were exactly as dangerous as all of the
105:27
made up stories about marijuana said it
105:28
was they still had no right to tell you
105:31
that you couldn’t do it to yourself no
105:33
or that you couldn’t at least use it to
105:35
test to see if it’s if it’s medicinal
105:36
listen we all know heroines terrible
105:39
right like we know you shouldn’t do
105:41
heroin like heroin has a nearly 100%
105:43
rate of bad things happening to you
105:45
until you eventually stop using it
105:47
whether it’s because you died or because
105:49
you got clean but we still let you know
105:52
opioids get tested for treatments and
105:54
things like that we still let cocaine
105:56
tested for treatments marijuana has the
105:59
highest level of control on it which
106:01
means you can’t use it for it you can’t
106:03
test you can use LSD you can use
106:06
whatever it is that’s in the mushrooms
106:08
you can use all this as psilocybin thank
106:10
you yes I have some you can use all of
106:13
this stuff but not weed and now I say
106:16
this is someone I am a 14-year clean
106:19
drug addict I don’t smoke weed I don’t
106:21
drink alcohol even I don’t do any of the
106:24
hard stuff I don’t even do like when
106:26
they want to give you hydrocodone and
106:28
after like when you even syrup’ when you
106:30
feel sick I don’t do any of that stuff
106:31
so this isn’t my personal layer I’m
106:33
gonna get high man like it’s not that
106:34
it’s that first of all it’s no one’s
106:36
business but second law it’s actually
106:37
making it harder for you as a scientist
106:41
to find ways
106:43
to treat us with you know with with
106:46
something that could be far let have far
106:47
less side effects that could be cheaper
106:50
and more widespread that could actually
106:52
make things better so that we don’t have
106:53
for example oh I don’t know
106:55
hypothetically an opioid crisis where
106:57
people who need higher and higher levels
106:59
of opioids to deal with chronic pain
107:00
issues end up because of restrictions on
107:03
them being able to use it they end up
107:04
returning to you know black tar heroin
107:06
because because they can get it or you
107:09
know getting their pills illegally by
107:12
someone else who’s getting them and then
107:13
selling them rather than maybe I don’t
107:15
know smoking a joint or taking something
107:17
that synthesized you know THC or or you
107:20
know eating eating you know taking a
107:22
pill that’s you know concentrated THC or
107:24
something like that I was gonna say the
107:27
I don’t know many people who have taken
107:31
both for pain i I’ve never taken I’ve
107:34
never taken opioids and I haven’t smoked
107:37
marijuana for a very long time Peter if
107:39
you’re still watching I still hate you
107:42
but if you’ve ever compared to anyone
107:44
who’s taking opioids for pain versus
107:49
taking opioids for recreation right you
107:53
don’t just start taking like you don’t
107:56
start at heroin right well that’s not
107:58
like you’ve never there’s no there’s
108:00
never been in any case that we have ever
108:02
seen where a person went from I have
108:04
nothing going on in my life that would
108:06
cause me any kind of problem actually
108:07
take some day I was bored and I had
108:10
black tar heroin just laying around so I
108:12
said my right that’s never a man that if
108:15
you ever once happened right no one has
108:17
ever started taking crystal meth like
108:20
that’s not it doesn’t happen no it’s
108:23
never been anyone’s introduction to
108:25
drugs is they just decided today that
108:27
they’re gonna start smoking meth right
108:29
that’s not how so it’s either it’s
108:32
either an introduction through like
108:35
they’re self-medicating or they’re
108:37
experimenting with drugs when they’re a
108:39
teenager in college because that’s what
108:40
everyone does right it so if someone is
108:44
addicted to opioids they either went
108:52
down a series of other black market
108:53
drugs that led them to either pills
108:56
heroin or whatever that they’re getting
108:57
illegally or they had some kind of
109:01
prescription for opioids that they lost
109:05
control of and they’re now addicted to
109:09
pills and whether or not they can can
109:11
you get it to get these pills is whether
109:13
or not they can is whether or not they
109:15
turn to the black market or either go to
109:17
rehab right right and there’s a huge
109:21
stigma in the United States and in most
109:23
of the world about being addicted to a
109:25
given substance or a given activity or
109:28
whatever and I understand why that
109:32
exists because we stigmatize it so bad
109:34
but it doesn’t it does not make sense
109:37
and healthy that we looked at that we
109:39
look down on addicts the way that we do
109:41
yeah it still is we don’t and like
109:45
especially when they like there’s this
109:48
massive massive issue with people
109:51
admitting that they’re an addict because
109:55
somehow admitting it makes it worse to
109:57
some Hempel yeah so it’s one of those
110:01
we’ve caused this problem ourselves but
110:04
when you look at what did making these
110:11
drugs what did making it turn to the
110:12
black market actually accomplished what
110:14
did the war on drugs do effectively it
110:18
created a giant it created a giant
110:20
government boondoggle of the you know
110:22
the whole prison industrial complex it
110:24
created all sorts of you know ways for
110:26
you know crony as’ to make money by
110:29
building prisons and building stuff for
110:31
these ever militarizing police state
110:33
that we live under it basically did a
110:35
bunch of horrible things it gave Richard
110:37
Nixon a way to – instead of attack his
110:40
opponents as hippies and black people he
110:43
got to attack them as cocaine and
110:45
marijuana fiends and addicts and throw
110:48
them in prison and give them charges so
110:50
that they couldn’t engage in the
110:51
political process they couldn’t vote or
110:53
or you know I mean did a lot of them
110:55
were in jail so they can do anything but
110:56
even once they were out they couldn’t
110:57
vote that continued through the Reagan
111:03
and Bush Senior and Bush junior and
111:07
employment continuing now you
111:10
and we’re just sitting here accepting it
111:13
as if this like as if these
111:15
misconceptions about the drugs
111:17
themselves the people who use them are
111:19
based on reality when they’re not but
111:22
you’re also looking at whether or not
111:24
the the drugs themselves could be used
111:27
in clinical settings as something useful
111:30
you know and we’re just not even we’re
111:33
not looking into like even if you’re
111:36
looking into it’s like sudden they say
111:38
that MDMA is being used for treatment of
111:40
PTSD anxiety regression yep
111:42
so our psilocybin which you know
111:45
mushrooms
111:47
there’s people within the facility that
111:51
I work for the test ketamine
111:53
as a treatment for depression yep no I
111:54
have a friend I have a friend who gets
111:56
ketamine infusions every however many
111:58
weeks and it changed her life mm-hmm
112:01
like she’s okay today but ketamine is
112:08
legal to use on animals and it’s legal
112:10
to use in people as an anesthetic like
112:13
if you’re going under for surgery like I
112:14
was given ketamine when I had my wisdom
112:15
teeth taken out okay as part of a larger
112:17
cocktail of stuff that you know they
112:18
gave you but not weed and but until
112:22
recently ketamine was not FDA approved
112:27
to treat depression it was already
112:30
available for humans to take you can go
112:34
to a doctor and they can give you
112:35
ketamine but if you say that you’re
112:38
taking it for depression it changes how
112:41
the government assigns like value to
112:45
this drug and that is patently absurd
112:49
whether the drug is going to like it
112:52
whether or not you’re using it to like
112:53
treat depression or using it to like be
112:59
put unconscious to have your wisdom
113:00
teeth taken out was treated the same
113:03
right but like its treated the same by
113:08
the body but the government sees it as
113:10
different things right because the
113:11
government sees it as different things
113:13
insurance companies see it as different
113:16
things mm-hmm which is why your friend
113:19
who is getting the IV infusions of
113:21
ketamine did they ever mention a
113:23
price for that well I do know that it’s
113:26
not covered by insurance she’s paying
113:27
out of pocket that I do know the number
113:31
probably has a comma in it monthly
113:33
treatment she can and she can afford it
113:35
and she’s talked about that how it’s not
113:36
cheap but it she’ll do it because it
113:38
absolutely changed her life
113:39
but the reason of that cost is because
113:41
they will put you in a cage over whether
113:44
you’re using it for a body ouchie
113:46
or an emotional ouchie like it really it
113:49
even though you know a now she’s and now
113:52
she’s guys like I mean you know putting
113:56
aside though even if she wanted to use
113:57
it to have fun for the weekend you know
113:59
it’s not something I think is a great
114:01
idea but it’s her body it’s really it’s
114:03
really not a great idea it’s a terrible
114:06
idea it’s a terrible idea
114:07
really sure if you’re taking it but if
114:10
you’re taking it because to even get
114:13
cleared for a ketamine clinical trial
114:15
you have to have treatment resistant
114:17
depression they will not give it to you
114:19
unless you are considered treatment
114:20
resistant to get to ketamine you have to
114:24
have taken at least two other
114:26
antidepressants and had no effect
114:28
I had no Center out of relief right
114:31
which means that you were depressed for
114:34
a period of time you decided that you
114:37
were depressed enough to go to a doctor
114:38
the doctor gave you one drug whatever it
114:42
was you took it for a period of at least
114:47
a few months probably it didn’t work you
114:50
probably went back to the doctor and
114:52
they and they’re up the dose of it or
114:54
gave you something else right at this
114:56
point you’ve probably been depressed for
114:58
about six months it’s minimal yeah
115:01
following that that you go back and say
115:04
even with a higher dose it doesn’t work
115:05
they put you on a different kind of drug
115:07
right right different kind of drug for
115:10
about three months that’s still doesn’t
115:12
work they up the dose then so now you’re
115:16
looking at you’ve been depressed enough
115:18
to talk to a doctor about it for six
115:19
months to a year with no improvement
115:23
right people do this for decades you
115:26
know and just live with it you know
115:28
ketamine works and in the patients that
115:31
it works and I’m not saying that
115:32
ketamine is like a panacea for
115:34
depression I’m not sure everyone who’s
115:36
ever taken it then everyone’s ever
115:37
enemy immediately got better on average
115:40
in the for people with
115:42
treatment-resistant depression ketamine
115:44
works in less than an hour they’ve been
115:49
dealing with that for months and years
115:51
they’ve been dealing with this for years
115:52
sometimes decades they get it and and
115:56
she described it that way she’s like I
115:57
took it I was very nervous the first
115:59
time because you here it’s this
116:00
potentially dangerous drug and they
116:02
explained how you know there was people
116:04
there if anything happened and that you
116:05
know I would be safe and whatever and I
116:07
was worried I was worried and all of a
116:09
sudden everything was okay and has been
116:12
since then there’s a reason that it’s
116:18
lasts there’s a reason that ketamine is
116:20
the last thing that you get absolutely
116:22
because this but also there’s no reason
116:26
for it to be treated the way that it is
116:30
like there’s no reason for it to cost
116:33
the nasal spray they got approved by the
116:36
FDA
116:36
so the nasal spray is approved for
116:39
depression right and to get the nasal
116:43
spray you have to go to a registered
116:45
clinic and have a nurse give it to you
116:48
you’re not allowed to self administer
116:49
ketamine which is probably for them for
116:52
the people who manufacture ketamine the
116:53
people who distribute it that’s a good
116:54
rule it’s gonna say for liability
116:56
purposes probably yeah yeah yeah like if
116:59
there was if you’re talking about like a
117:01
no and I’m a capitalist like dreamland
117:03
where there’s no government involvement
117:05
whatsoever having a doctor and a nurse
117:08
who are trained to administer ketamine
117:10
give you the ketamine it’s still a good
117:12
idea of course it’s not something this
117:14
is not something you want people to self
117:15
administer whatever they want it because
117:18
ketamine can be addictive yeah you can
117:20
hallucinate on it if you mix it with
117:22
alcohol horrible things are gonna happen
117:24
to you but there’s no reason for the
117:29
nasal spray and the IV to be treated
117:34
that much differently than just whatever
117:36
else you’re gonna use ketamine for just
117:37
because it’s for depression right
117:39
without insurance the ketamine nasal
117:42
spray is nine hundred dollars a dose do
117:47
you know anyone off the top of your head
117:48
who can afford
117:51
hundred dollars of any medication on a
117:53
weekly basis because I don’t I’d have a
117:59
tough time yeah I work on these drugs
118:03
and I I don’t know many people who can’t
118:06
afford to pay yeah
118:07
900 dollars every week we’d have to make
118:10
one dose we’d have to make some very
118:13
tough decisions in our household but
118:15
I’ll tell you something if I had I’ve
118:17
battled you know depression and anxiety
118:19
or whatever if I battle with some of
118:21
these folks are dealing with and I knew
118:23
that for four grand a month or of 3,500
118:26
a month whatever that I could be okay I
118:30
I mean a lot of people can still can’t
118:33
afford it but I you know I would make
118:35
whatever choices I had to most people
118:36
aren’t in a position to be able to make
118:38
those kind of choices and and and and
118:40
that’s a huge problem so the war on
118:41
drugs is terrible and and you know we
118:44
already knew the war on drugs is
118:45
terrible this just underscores yet
118:46
another functional practical reason as
118:48
to why the war on drugs is terrible so
118:50
guys if you haven’t if there’s anything
118:53
that you’ve taken from this show I want
118:55
it to be this stay six feet away from
118:58
people whenever possible try to avoid
119:00
large groups of people right now wash
119:03
your damn hands and sanitize your damn
119:05
hands and try to limit your face
119:06
touching you know when you’ve touched
119:08
something else in between hand washings
119:10
and you know and and and and you know
119:13
also uh limit your hair or when touching
119:15
yeah pretty pretty strongly advising
119:18
your hair limit your head yeah heroin
119:21
touch yeah try to touch heroin as little
119:24
as possible
119:25
preferably not at all um if you cannot
119:27
touch heroin at all that would be
119:29
helpful
119:29
and you know allow your frogs to
119:33
discover their sexuality on their own
119:34
stop trying to force your your agenda on
119:36
them and then also um you know if you’re
119:39
gonna if you think that you need six
119:42
thousand ibuprofen you might want to get
119:44
some rice to be and some propane and
119:46
eight propane you know
119:49
accessory get a generator get if you’re
119:51
gonna do this for yourself get a
119:52
generator if you’re like if you’re gonna
119:54
prepare for the end prepare for the in
119:56
here for inconvenience right exactly
119:58
yeah if you think that you’re gonna need
119:59
that much ibuprofen the world’s going in
120:01
that direction then you’re gonna need to
120:03
modify some of your decision
120:05
pretty quickly you’re gonna want to get
120:06
a generator you’re gonna want to go
120:07
ahead and take the car take that grill
120:09
off your car and put it on your chest
120:11
when you go out so you can mad max it
120:13
through the world you know there’s some
120:14
choices you’ll have to make so before I
120:16
move on to talking about the the vermin
120:20
spike 2020 update that I do that I do
120:23
whenever I do these shows I want to give
120:24
you a chance Jordan to give any final
120:27
thoughts you’d like to give anything
120:28
that you by the way thanks for coming on
120:30
this been a fantastic nice nice short
120:33
notice or so long that’s all right
120:36
we’ve wanted to do a science show for a
120:38
while all right right right we have we
120:40
have so much autograph for this one that
120:42
we couldn’t really get into like um how
120:45
a lot of my undergraduate work was in
120:47
like ecosystem maintenance and climate
120:50
change and stuff like that so we need to
120:52
do another show oh yeah you have to do
120:54
this again
120:54
yeah we’re absolutely doing this again I
120:56
was like a final thought I had something
120:59
for you that I was learning in in in the
121:04
keeping with you know maintaining
121:06
sanitation and you know in the midst of
121:12
a viral outbreak
121:13
I was wondering because we’re so deep
121:16
into this and you’re doing this Rivera’s
121:17
campaign what we have here is a box of
121:21
sterile shoe covers I was wondering if
121:25
you could get vermin while he’s on the
121:27
campaign for the rest of the year if he
121:29
would wear a sterile boot cover in the
121:33
name of you know if we’re trying to do
121:36
this we’re trying to do this if he’s
121:37
gonna wear a face mask you might as well
121:38
wear the shoe covers and the gloves and
121:40
everything let me write Dave down we can
121:41
get hold on yes I would yes if we’re
121:46
gonna do it ready this right damn it do
121:48
they know he’s gonna wear that
121:49
do they have 100 sterile Buch I mean
121:52
they have they have them for shoes so
121:55
just it works on any shoe that you want
121:58
to put it on so if he’s gonna wear it
121:59
for the rest of his campaign while we’re
122:01
in an outbreak he might as well if he’s
122:03
gonna if we’re gonna have people out
122:04
wearing gloves and face masks in public
122:06
vermin can wear a shoe cover on that
122:08
boot there’s no reason for him not to do
122:11
this well we do plan on doing some PSAs
122:13
about social distancing where we will do
122:15
like hey vermin hey spike are we six
122:17
feet away from each other
122:18
you
122:19
we’re 750 miles away from each other um
122:21
but for taking because the tick taught
122:23
kids love our PSAs um but um I never
122:26
thought I’d be talking about the tick
122:27
tock kids but now I’m running for office
122:29
so here we are but let me let me look
122:32
into that because if there is such a
122:34
thing as a sterile boot cover I will
122:36
tell you right now that man will be
122:38
wearing one at least occasionally
122:39
because that is a great idea and
122:41
hilarious um now meanwhile his boot is
122:45
is actually a boot cover it’s a rubber
122:47
it’s a tingly they call it’s the tingly
122:50
brand rubber boot cover because an
122:52
actual boot that large would break his
122:53
neck having to you know walking around
122:55
wearing that all the time right
122:57
and he actually uses a fun fact he uses
122:59
a Waffle House menu to keep it erect um
123:04
is that as a snap ein if you will to
123:08
keep his keep it nice and nice and ready
123:11
to go baby holding an apple um but the
123:14
but so but but I don’t know if that’s
123:18
considered a sterile boot cover but
123:20
you’re talking about like almost like it
123:21
almost looks like a hairnet but for your
123:23
your shoes right right like if you walk
123:26
into a if you walk into certain hazmat
123:29
areas or like sterile rooms and ICUs or
123:32
whatever you have to cover you should
123:33
complain so I’m saying he should wear
123:37
one for his hat I’m mentioned we’re
123:38
gonna have him wearing if we’re gonna
123:40
have him wearing that around all the
123:40
time we might as well have wearing it
123:42
with sterile if there is no right even
123:45
if we just have one just on the top part
123:47
like just you know like not even the
123:50
whole boot I just even if it’s on the
123:51
top part of the shoe it already covers
123:53
the UH yeah it doesn’t matter how high
123:56
the shoe goes up your leg or your ankle
123:57
or whatever it only covers the boss
123:58
covers you only have to have a covering
124:00
this oh wow yes I will talk with the
124:04
campaign tomorrow about that that’s an
124:07
excellent idea
124:09
so they sell these at yeah they sell
124:11
these at CVS Walgreens Rite Aid whatever
124:14
they have in Myrtle Beach you they’re
124:17
not hard to find I work for a medical
124:20
school we get them in bulk but you guys
124:22
do if he’s gonna wear that during an
124:24
outbreak we might as well have
124:25
everything taken care of just in case
124:27
just in case there’s not been I’m sure
124:30
much epidemiological epic
124:32
timmi illogical study I’m Sharon minimum
124:35
studies on wearing a boot on your head
124:37
and the potential vector factor for that
124:39
we don’t know we just don’t know right
124:41
so let’s just be safe let’s just be safe
124:43
no I think it’s a great idea so drun
124:45
thank you so much stick around I’m going
124:47
to give a vermin supreme of vermin spite
124:49
campaign update talking about everything
124:52
with the vermin supreme spike Cohen 2020
124:54
campaign guys this has been an
124:56
absolutely incredible week for us first
125:02
of all we found out from the Super
125:04
Tuesday convention it took forever to
125:05
count but we have confirmed that vermin
125:08
Supreme One the Massachusetts primary
125:11
this is a non-binding primary we don’t
125:14
bind our delegates we’ll find out at the
125:16
convention if that even happens who
125:19
actually you know beta pickets pick but
125:21
this is an idea of who the voters who
125:23
they like and so Fuhrman won
125:24
Massachusetts which is just incredible
125:27
and then even bigger news because this
125:28
was a close race
125:29
Jacob Hornberger came within what almost
125:33
just over just under 30 29 votes of a
125:36
vermin and Dan Berman was right behind
125:38
him Kim Roth who’s been out of the race
125:40
for two months she did pretty well but
125:42
so but what really the big news this
125:45
week is that after an absolutely just
125:47
astoundingly perfect debate performance
125:50
where he absolutely killed it at the
125:52
Libertarian Party of Illinois convention
125:56
at the debate in Chicago and a previous
125:59
debate that he had with other third
126:00
party candidates he completely routed at
126:04
the the Illinois version of what they
126:07
call their primary their straw poll he
126:09
won more votes than every other
126:12
candidate combined he did so well that
126:15
there was actually a negative reaction
126:17
from people who thought he couldn’t have
126:18
possibly actually done that well and he
126:21
did he did it he did incredibly
126:24
incredibly well it is he has really
126:28
turned a corner on this debate he’s
126:29
always been decent and good in the
126:30
debate performances he’s completely
126:32
turned a corner he killed it in the
126:33
debate it wasn’t even close and came
126:36
away as the winner and then I had I got
126:39
to participate in my first presidential
126:41
debate I know what you’re thinking spike
126:43
you’re not running for president well
126:44
that’s true but what
126:46
happened is vermin Supremes computer
126:49
didn’t work and so he wasn’t able to
126:50
participate he asked if I could
126:52
participate in his stead and so I ended
126:55
up in the transhumanist party third
126:58
party candidate presidential debate that
127:01
was hosted live on YouTube a couple days
127:02
ago I’ll put the link to it in the notes
127:05
it’s very long it was over two hours
127:07
that I participated I was in with other
127:09
libertarian candidates such as John
127:11
McAfee and Adam Koch Esch as well as Ben
127:15
Zion who is apparently the transhumanist
127:17
party’s candidate his their nominee for
127:22
president and John thistle who was
127:24
running as a Democrat and then mosey I
127:27
forget where most famous but she was in
127:29
there as well and also Zoltan whatever
127:32
that guy’s last name is who was running
127:34
as a libertarian he’s now he’s running
127:36
as a Republican Zoltan was in there but
127:38
he already had signed off before I got
127:39
on no doubt he signed off finding out
127:41
that Spike Owen would be participating
127:43
in the debate and just utterly wrecking
127:45
shop and winning I ended up being the
127:48
only candidate to end would time still
127:51
you know we each were assigned a certain
127:52
amount of time to answer all the
127:53
questions I was left with ten seconds
127:55
making me the winner of that debate so I
127:59
won that debate fair and square
128:01
having absolutely no idea what we were
128:03
gonna talk about because up to ten
128:04
minutes before I was on the floor being
128:06
the little spoon for my dog he was being
128:09
the big spoon I had no idea what was
128:11
gonna happen
128:12
no clue didn’t even know there was a
128:14
debate and then I get a call saying hey
128:16
how’d you like to be in a presidential
128:17
debate about technology and I thought
128:18
absolutely let’s find out and so I was
128:21
finding out what the questions were as
128:23
they were asking them whereas the other
128:25
candidates had had something like a week
128:27
to research it and even just know that
128:30
the idea of what was even happening so I
128:33
would say given the fact that I went in
128:35
not knowing anything that I did pretty
128:38
well I think I did pretty well so I want
128:41
it I want it I did win the debate I will
128:44
I’m calling that that I wanted to be um
128:46
and yeah we had a girl Oh
128:49
final my film we haven’t done five final
128:51
my fellow Americans you want to do final
128:53
my fellow Americans absolutely
128:56
okay so this is a fun game that we have
128:58
and by fun I mean that it’s going to be
129:00
really like
129:00
is difficult for you which is fun for me
129:02
so basically what we’re gonna do is
129:05
final my fellow Americans I give you 30
129:07
seconds to answer a series of questions
129:08
it’s nowhere near enough time to do so
129:10
but that’s just how it is it’s just how
129:12
it is Jordan um and so for this
129:14
installment of final my fellow Americans
129:16
I’m going to name a series of things and
129:19
you tell me how long that it will take
129:21
for that thing to eradicate all of
129:24
humankind okay so I’m gonna name a thing
129:27
and I tell me how long days weeks months
129:29
whatever how long you think it will take
129:31
for every single last human being on the
129:33
planet earth to die a horrific painful
129:37
death as a result of this thing that
129:39
exists oh I’m playing what’s that game
129:42
called outbreak or whatever it is the
129:46
mobile app Oh playing plague inc yeah
129:49
play a game okay yeah yeah doing that
129:51
really okay but in real life in real
129:52
life but what you’re doing in this case
129:54
is you’re just estimating how long you
129:56
think it’ll take so you tell me when
129:57
you’re ready and we will get started go
130:00
for it okay so we will get started Oh
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start the clocks at 30 seconds good luck
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Kove in nineteen ten years ten years to
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kill all of us climate change 50 years
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50 years okay the ending of net
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neutrality we’re already dead bro your
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broadcast straight from hell that’s good
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goat AIDS ego aids aids that you get
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from a goat I’m gonna say 15 years 15
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that one’s way more dangerous okay the
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guy that guy named Jeff who has a
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nuclear weapon Jeff was no danger to us
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Jeff is a good person and he is going to
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save us all okay that’s Jeff is like the
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Iron Man of this universe know that the
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weapon that only he can contain he saw
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it so only Jeff can save us from Goat
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AIDS correct okay a pop country ooh that
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is more dangerous than Corona by a lot
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I’m gonna say that’s gonna kill us all
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by next year if we don’t do something
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about it now okay I agree I agree
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max Abramson registering as a Democrat
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Oh God Almighty I that’s got six months
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that’s not until about November October
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before that kills us that’s fair that’s
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until the election um you have a bird
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box in real life mm they’re making a
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sequel to that so I’m gonna say two
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years oh they’re making a sequel that’s
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funny
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okay the common cold but every time you
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sneeze flames come out of your nose I
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think we would actually handle that
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pretty well we just like to just make
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the social distancing mandatory by
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flamethrower season I’d say that’s
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socially this we probably do that okay
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we probably last 20 years on that one 20
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years okay we didn’t make yeah we just
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make pepper illegal so we it’s spicy
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foods so this would be perfect for white
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people because we just know spicy foods
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I mean speak for yourself I live in
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Florida and that’s fair don’t know
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that’s fair and you and your and you’re
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like part Cajun right you’re like part
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Louisiana that’s just mine like my
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grandmother on my mom’s side okay the
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rest of my family is like Irish soon
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ladies oh well so you won’t be happy but
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we will live okay so and and then
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finally like we’ll live if you’re
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watching this I’m so sorry
132:30
like are you are we really living okay
132:32
and then finally a badger oh just a
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badger is that have we angered the
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badger like it’s the Badger pissed off
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at us I mean it’s a badger so probably
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yes
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okay the badger will if granted it’s
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only once he’s got a lot of work to do
132:50
it’s living in a dungeon
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probably yeah the Badger will take his
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fall down in about nine years
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okay the Badgers gonna like just he’s
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gonna he’s gonna slowly build up to it
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but the Badger will eventually take over
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the airforce and then we’re done okay so
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it’s like it’s like it’s more of a
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political process of him becoming
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powerful enough to kill all of us
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right the Badger will eventually pull
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the house of cards trick and become the
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president and when he controls the
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military that’s the game for him okay so
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so the Badger is actually potentially
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the worst threat besides max Abramson
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becoming oh no no we’re out like you
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said we’re already all in hell from
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well pop-country we had to do something
133:30
about pop country we can still be saved
133:33
from that one but it will if we don’t do
133:35
something about cop country it’s over
133:36
yeah I mean it might already be too late
133:38
we may not be able to contain pop
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country Jordan you’ve been an absolute
133:42
blast thank you so much for coming on we
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are definitely doing more of these we’ll
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do one on the environment and climate
133:47
change it would have been great to do
133:49
one but this became a two and a half
133:50
hour episode just on kovat and briefly
133:52
mentioning the war on drugs so we’ll do
133:54
more sciency segments it’s really great
133:57
because i am not i I get educated by
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reading a lot of stuff immediately and I
134:02
don’t have a a breadth of knowledge when
134:04
it comes to scientific stuff so I really
134:06
appreciate your thoughts just a final
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piece of advice for that Google Scholar
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is free peer-reviewed articles are
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available on Google Scholar for free if
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you’re going to try and look something
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up don’t google it if it’s science
134:19
related Google Scholar it so how to
134:21
bring you the scientific articles that
134:23
are not written by media outlets not
134:26
blogs or anything like that and it’s
134:28
totally free and if there’s articles
134:30
that are behind a paywall
134:31
any local library or any college will
134:35
have access to those articles just use
134:37
their VPNs and so what what so Google
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Scholar is what scholar.google.com are
134:44
yeah it’s yeah Google Scholar is
134:46
scholar.google.com and it’s the same
134:48
search engine but it brings up instead
134:50
of bringing up any source about the
134:52
topic it brings up only peer-reviewed
134:54
articles or case law or patents oh wow
134:58
so if so if you want to look something
135:01
up and you want to know that it’s not
135:04
something that somebody who has a blog
135:06
paid to put on the top results of Google
135:07
right Google Scholar okay well that’s
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good to know so if you want to get
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fluoride pilled then you go to Google
135:15
Scholar scholar.google.com Jordan thanks
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again so much for coming on stick around
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I’m going to talk to you during the
135:20
outro and you you you sexy beautiful
135:24
person who watched all 2 hours and 16
135:27
minutes of this show thank you so much
135:29
for tuning in we had an absolute blast I
135:32
know you did too I could tell from the
135:34
comments how much fun you had with us
135:37
thank you again stay safe stay away from
135:39
people wash your damn hands
135:40
you know get some food that you can cook
135:42
even if you know your microwaves not
135:44
working and we’ll get through this
135:45
together stay tuned next week we will be
135:50
right back at it again here Matt Wright
135:53
and I will be here at Tuesday night for
135:56
the muddy waters of freedom where Matt
135:58
Wright and I my heterosexual life
136:00
partner Matt and I will be parsing
136:02
through the week’s events like the sweet
136:04
little winter cherubs that we are and
136:06
then tune in right back here Wednesday
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night
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that’s when my show is Wednesday night
136:12
8:00 p.m. eastern from my fellow
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Americans I have no idea who I’m gonna
136:16
have on or if I’m even gonna have a
136:18
guest or I’m just gonna talk about why
136:21
I’m running with vermin supreme but
136:23
we’re gonna try to get that thing for
136:24
his boot that’ll be really cool so guys
136:26
thanks again stay tuned we got much more
136:30
in store next week not so much tomorrow
136:33
oh no tomorrow I’m supposed to be on a
136:35
podcast which I think it’s called guns
136:37
and girls which sounds like a lot of fun
136:39
way more fun than this so be sure to I
136:42
will give the link to that when that’s
136:43
on but again thanks so much for tuning
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in we will see you very soon and god
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bless ya
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