(((My Fellow Americans))) #53: Don’t Vote For John McAfee!

On this special Monday Brunch episode of (((My Fellow Americans))), Spike is joined by software tycoon, cryptocurrency expert, Presidential candidate and fugitive from the law John McAfee. This should be interesting.


About This Episode

On this special Monday Brunch episode of (((My Fellow Americans))), John McAfee joins Spike to talk about Bitcoin, whale sex, his non-campaign for President, using blockchain and other technology to free yourselves from government, and why we should fill congress and the white house with winos and derelicts.

This should be interesting.

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always guys I probably don’t even need
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to introduce my guest today he was the
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pioneer of antivirus software who later
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became a yoga guru moved to Belize
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before living a life as a fugitive from
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their government briefly came back to
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the US ran for the Libertarian Party
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nomination for president now back on the
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land from the US government also still
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running for a president for the
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Libertarian Party nomination
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I’m literally wasting your time by
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continuing to talk instead of just like
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come on ladies and gentlemen my fellow
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Americans please welcome the show mr.
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John McAfee John thanks so much for
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coming on
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well thank you spike I’ve been listening
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to you I wanted to follow you myself I
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couldn’t find the follow button on the
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screen I mean you you you of you’re an
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excellent promoter my friend well they
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took away our like button on Facebook
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you an idea but them so yeah gives you
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an idea but the show’s gonna be like
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when Facebook doesn’t allow people so
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guys be sure to tune in with your
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thoughts and questions and John and I
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will tell you if you are right or wrong
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now John you had said when you reached
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out to podcasters to be interviewed you
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said you didn’t want any any kind of
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like pre-planned pre-canned questions or
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anything like that you want even want
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anything in the way of us just having a
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real and frank conversation well urinate
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for a real treat my friend cuz I never
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get anything any planning for the show
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at all I just show up corporate so
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there’s nothing to go I have no idea
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what we’re doing so um I want to give
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you I just want to give you a chance to
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talk
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so tell what would tell me what would
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you like to talk about oh it may
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not anything you know that the topics of
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conversation and words we can go
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politics technology cryptocurrency the
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IRS living in a feudal society lets over
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their feudal society okay will society
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and we start over that oh god one I want
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those listening people in America who
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believes that you know you’re living in
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a true democratic republic that your
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voice is actually heard that as
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presidents and congressmen come or go
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your life is actually impacted I’m sorry
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this justice about the case yeah no I
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mean in your lives people when a
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president is chained it’s just a single
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hair on your head get wafted by the
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breeze of that change no your wife
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doesn’t change nobody’s life changes
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right if you look at presidents from the
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past 75
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nobody’s truly done Obama yes he did
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Obamacare took him his entire eight
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years and the other half at that time he
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was
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she was campaigning but he got a got a
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pass got a done what happened
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got unraveled by the next and whatever
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the Republican administration those will
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be unraveled by the mess your life
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doesn’t change and yet you spend so much
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time who is going to lead us we have not
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had a leader people in 75 years
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Dwight Eisenhower was our last lead
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early supreme command or the Allied
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forces during World War two that bastard
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add some power it was a come down on her
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him to be president of the US and Ryan
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won the jaw he was forced into that job
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by those who knew him best his friends
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those that he respected who said you got
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to do business you would listen we’re
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still suffering the results of the war
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the entire world as we need a leader so
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he came in and he led us you didn’t
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leave us by telling us she didn’t like
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current administration’s to guns are bad
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or country goods or drugs are bad or
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drugs are good or I mean different no he
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just did his job right now what
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we what do we do today we elect those
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presidents who want the job and not just
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once the job
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I want that $300,000 salary more than
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anything
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no you’re willing to pay a hundred
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million dollars to get that between
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hundred thousand dollar salary right it
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ain’t the salary will and we’re thought
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no it’s not so then you gotta ask what
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the is it no I’m serious people
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what is it that makes a person or a
09:13
party spend all this money to get that
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seat and we’re electing them we’re
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seeing them run you were hearing about
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the incredible expenses that that are
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being expended on these campaigns and
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knowing that whoever gets it doesn’t
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matter because our system people is a
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car with a broken steering wheel it’s
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frozen and we’re worrying about who’s
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driving it do we want to put in that
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broken car it doesn’t matter
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put it
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like in the street this is why nothing
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changes because our country has
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something happening behind the curtain
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that we’re not paying attention to and
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that something is the CIA and a shadow
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government and if we have time I’d be
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more than happy to to pull back that
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curtain for you people and and show you
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what’s happening but in my mind listen I
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don’t want to be President by brand I
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can’t be please God there’s no limit
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area going to be president I promise you
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we live in a frozen two-party system the
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last person have any chance in hell was
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Ross Perot when there will be in there
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will be no other our two-party system
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rules this country and behind the
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curtain the CIA rules the two-party
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system we are mere sheep and cattle
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herded where they will doing as we’re
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told or not doing as we told it’s your
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body but you may not put drugs in it I’m
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sorry government owns that part of your
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body that’s your body with your mind but
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certain times you couldn’t be put things
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in your mind are we just we going to
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teach it in America crew does you know
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something good god people wake up wake
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up it doesn’t matter it’s not that we
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are running to be present because if
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that’s the case I’m out of this party
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because we know and the public knows we
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will not get the presidency so let’s
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stop pretending so this use its
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opportunity to run so that we can use
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the access to the national stage to
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reveal what’s fine that correct
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so that’s what I wanted to ask you
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because when I went to your website it’s
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saying don’t vote McAfee and I’m
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thinking is this sort of like a
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Brewster’s Millions none of the above
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campaign or don’t waste don’t waste your
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vote I want people to vote in number one
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stop voting in people my age or younger
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than me by certainly more than their
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thirty years
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if someone’s forty years old they’re too
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goddamn oh I’m
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sorry we live in a world that is
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radically changing and we need fresh
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blood someone like me I have lived under
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this broken system lived under the
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perversion of the corruption
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I am tainted by definition you can’t
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live in this system and not be tainted
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no you don’t want me you want a 25 year
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old or if you really want to fix this
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government vote everybody out and vote
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in the derelict in the street the winos
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under the bridges because I promise you
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will have a better America it will take
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50 years for those bastards
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to get their act together enough to
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start collecting this government to the
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point that we are being abused by them
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so find the most so basically find like
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the most hapless people that you can
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because then it’s gonna take them a
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while to figure out how to stir you I
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can’t do any damage what damage can a
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wino do in the president’s office lock
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him in there and feed him why and time
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and the same lock the doors of Congress
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do what you have to do you know send in
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500 Bangkok prostitutes and some booze I
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don’t know maybe drugs but walking in
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and pay them no mind but our government
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is not the government that we see do you
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know what the CIA calls politicians
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presidents congressmen senators you know
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what they call them now trans transients
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that’s the word never into their face
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but in their internal transients why
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goddamn they come they were there for
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four years and gone eight maybe if
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you’re lucky and me the CIA or the
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people in the CIA are going well okay
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I’ve been here my whole life
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I started 25 and you never retire from a
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covert agency in America no sir you’re
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there for life and you have spent every
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minute of every day analyzing some
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aspect of the world political financial
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social cultural
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or religious energies of interface and
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relate in the most complex of all ways
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and you expect their president to come
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in who’s a politician it’s been habits
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I’m getting here just campaigning or
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making enough money to become president
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right
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you can’t frame them you can’t possibly
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enlighten them say disk control hell
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because you own the real information to
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the CIA and if you think that’s I does
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not know everything in this world then
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wake up people they do I’m aware and
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fully of their technology and it is
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awesome so what we do is we need to we
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need to have iraq neutralized in the
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Middle East how do we do that
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let’s fell push that they’ve got nuclear
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weapons that should work if he doesn’t
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do that we’ll tell him something else
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was told Bush and Congress CIA with 100%
15:08
accuracy and precision and absolute
15:11
knowledge know that Saddam Hussein has
15:16
weapons of mass destruction and missiles
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capable of delivering them to our
15:20
closest allies like input what are you
15:23
gonna do George he did what they knew he
15:28
would do what he was to lock him into
15:30
the Stone Age this is how it’s not a
15:33
good God not even with false you can
15:35
give truthful information but just the
15:37
pieces that appeal to you and will
15:39
motivate a person to move and act in the
15:41
right direction now
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these people aren’t they’re not monsters
15:44
I don’t think they’re evil I think
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they’re true patriots I really do I mean
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you can’t not be a patriot if you have
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dedicated your entire life on your early
15:54
20s to the gray to an organization that
15:58
allegedly protects the match national
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interests I think the Patriots I don’t
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think they’re evil I think they see the
16:05
truth good God will help super little at
16:08
presidents and columns make these
16:10
decisions that’s how they see it
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they’re simply misguided they have
16:16
overreached their authority and their
16:19
charter because I did so before we worry
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about
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who’s sitting in that chair it’s totally
16:29
irrelevant let us get her and let’s look
16:34
back there don’t see what would be I’m
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not gonna like you people and you’ve
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been you’ve been one of the things
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you’ve been pushing for is blockchain
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and cryptocurrency which I guess you see
16:45
is a way of kind of divorcing yourself
16:47
from that system now last month you
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raised your famous I’m gonna eat my dick
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prediction from $1,000,000 to $2,000,000
16:56
so that’s mainstream media garbage at no
16:59
point did I ever say anything remotely
17:01
like that so no I did some so is it
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still 1 million or it’s 1 million okay
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okay so 1 million so you’ve said that
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that you believe that by the end of 2020
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Bitcoin will be worth a million dollars
17:16
or more you’ve talked about how because
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of there’s only about 21 million Bitcoin
17:21
we’ve lost about 7 million so even if
17:24
you say there’s about 15 million 4
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million of which are gonna take forever
17:27
to mine so it’s naturally a deflationary
17:29
currency right and we’re continuing to
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lose 4 times faster than remaining new
17:34
ones so but but listen people talk about
17:37
Bitcoin Bitcoin is of no consequence
17:39
people Bitcoin is the oldest clunkiest
17:41
most archaic of of cryptocurrency right
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in origin the reason it’s going to be so
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so so big is because everybody knows the
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name and it’s the grandfather and it
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will be used as a sword but he has no
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privacy
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you can’t put a smart contract on that
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blockchain it’s slow and concave no we
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need to talk more about cryptocurrency
18:04
as a whole there are 7,000 coins out
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there bitcoin is just 1 fmz the largest
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in terms of market volume first MRI
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right okay but by no means the largest
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in terms of practical years meaning
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buying and selling using right yeah
18:23
after the show when you pay me with
18:26
Bitcoin to be a member of my premium
18:27
snapchat will now have control of each I
18:30
will now actually see each other’s
18:32
wallets and can keep track of what the
18:34
other is doing and then on and that’s
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the only reason I came on your show so I
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could get you all with this
18:41
and then and then blackmail you as I
18:44
monitor every penny that comes in and
18:47
goes out of that wallet and to which
18:48
address for the rest of your life
18:50
so I know eventually I want to catch you
18:52
with something that will return my
18:54
bitcoins exactly exactly and you’ll get
18:57
all that premium snapchat time in the
18:58
mean time so and this so this is what I
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wanted to ask so you still think even
19:06
because bitcoins slow and clunky just
19:08
because it’s first to market and most
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recognized it’s still gonna have this
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huge jump do you think it’s then going
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to stay in that region or it’s
19:16
eventually going to be late for dodgy or
19:18
AOL listen I know it’ll get emmaus I
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know this and anybody who wants to run
19:26
the math will say oh my god yes it has
19:28
to at the very least what will happen in
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the long run I don’t know because the
19:34
technology of the blockchain is evolving
19:37
so rapidly but new concepts new things
19:40
nobody thought about at the run before
19:42
the start and it will simply get lost in
19:49
that morass in terms of utility in terms
19:52
of use but it will still be the go-to
19:55
for people you know what a hold some
19:57
cryptic arts but again it’s a Bitcoin is
20:01
so insignificant in the big Joker
20:04
Bitcoin arena based on the fact into
20:07
such an ancient and impractical
20:09
technology right the big thing is our
20:12
monera or anything that you can attach a
20:16
smart contract you write our privacy
20:18
primary rights Here I am what whatever
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so this is where the future will be very
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good I wanted my followers usually give
20:28
me great questions and so I reached out
20:29
to them and said said what kind of
20:32
questions I’m gonna pull them up so you
20:33
can see what I’m dealing with my
20:34
followers I said what kind of questions
20:35
would you like me to ask John McAfee
20:37
John McAfee right here are the questions
20:40
that my followers okay I’m just gonna
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give you the so I got whale sex vagina
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size bitcoin 1 million dollars eat dick
20:50
and then it Rihanna Slee goes down
20:53
very quickly from there um I would be
20:56
remiss because at least 50% asked right
20:59
here I know you’ve talked about the
21:01
whale sex thing before you have made a
21:03
compelling point that it’s you don’t
21:06
really have to worry about consent when
21:08
it comes to a 70 thousand pound sea
21:10
animal if it if it wants to do what it’s
21:12
going to happen if it doesn’t want to do
21:13
it it probably does but what my question
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is
21:17
or what my followers question is and
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this is the one I’m gonna allow them to
21:21
have because the rest were even worse
21:22
than that a whale is vagina I would
21:26
assume is large enough for us to just
21:27
crawl into oh if people think what whale
21:31
sex is using people that offense and
21:33
pull out your penis no I mean because
21:36
whale Aegina is 8 feet long 12.5 feet
21:39
wide alright yeah that you crawl up
21:40
inside of people good gut but your first
21:44
problem good everybody we’re living in
21:47
such a religiously backward and and we
21:52
serve and constrain the culture
21:54
everybody’s asking about the middle
21:56
vagina
21:57
I do anal sex with female well it’s it’s
22:01
just my thing and so you know you should
22:04
be asking about that but I’m more than
22:08
if that’s what you would like to talk
22:09
about I’m fine with that
22:10
no absolutely not I just said I finished
22:13
on that okay okay fair enough I do want
22:17
to ask about technology we were kind of
22:19
touching on this with with with crypto
22:23
we’re we have a I see a dichotomy in our
22:27
society that technology is both bringing
22:30
us more personal freedom and access to
22:32
information so like on my phone
22:34
right now I’m talking to someone who’s
22:36
literally on the lam and broadcasting it
22:39
to the rest of world that is a level of
22:40
unprecedented access to people and
22:42
ability to broadcast I can is it not I
22:45
can it not yet I can reach I can pretty
22:48
much the entirety of human knowledge I
22:50
can access on this device so you’ve got
22:52
that aspect of freedom and access to
22:55
information and yet at the same time I’m
22:57
also carrying a government spy drone
22:59
with me at all times that can listen in
23:00
on me both front and back camera to see
23:02
whom to see me and what I’m looking at
23:05
and so and
23:07
and the technology allows governments to
23:09
increasingly spy on us keep track of us
23:11
we used to laugh that we would be
23:13
carrying around you know government
23:14
trackers and yet we’re all doing it has
23:16
a GPS on we’re arguing and we’ll hang
23:18
for it yeah we’re paying for it mo
23:21
paying for it not like it’s not like
23:23
they had to distract us to put that
23:27
thing in our pocket though but mainly by
23:29
it willingly for lots of money
23:30
you’ve got people on Facebook right now
23:32
telling everyone what they looked like
23:34
ten years ago and what they look like
23:36
now just in case the government needed
23:37
any additional time any additional help
23:40
keeping track of who they are my
23:42
question to you that dichotomy were
23:44
we’re becoming both more and more free
23:46
in terms of access and information and
23:48
more and more controlled in terms of
23:50
them being able to keep track of what
23:51
we’re doing do you see that ever coming
23:53
to a head at some point and if so who
23:55
wins in that well there’s there’s a
24:00
perennial question and by the way you
24:02
mentioned drones this will become
24:06
illegal this is the magic
24:08
Platinum Pro to tiny little thing put it
24:12
in a suitcase almost in your coat pocket
24:14
7,000 hours completely ready to go off
24:18
of Amazon a range of eleven miles five
24:22
miles control right half mile this is
24:26
awesome for people to find out about
24:29
comfort think about governments have
24:33
these walls fences yeah behind which you
24:37
can’t get what this little by
24:39
anywhere this will be illegal
24:41
within two years all over the world I
24:44
promise you this will be illegal they’re
24:46
already there they’re bearing down on
24:50
drones but that’s a definition I’m just
24:53
it’s just one it’s one of my hot buttons
24:55
yeah yeah so I’m like now that I’ve
24:59
interrupted you one more time
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no no no it’s my son repeat the question
25:03
yes so my question was that reality that
25:06
we are becoming both more free in terms
25:08
of access to people and information and
25:10
more controlled in terms of being able
25:13
for them literally knowing what we’re
25:14
doing at every single second it with
25:16
full you know audio and video do you
25:18
ever see those two things coming to a
25:20
head
25:21
where where something has to give one
25:23
way or the other and if so which side do
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you think wins out well I mean up until
25:27
now the government will always run out
25:29
because the technology every for the
25:33
past almost 100 years every
25:37
world-changing technology has come from
25:40
the bowels of a government secret
25:42
program or for the Samsung or Microsoft
25:45
major corporation with one exception
25:49
that’s the blockchain which came from a
25:53
bunch of geeky developers with no
25:56
corporate or governmental alliance so to
25:59
speak who gave it to the world through
26:01
open-source and upon which we have built
26:05
an amazing technology the technology of
26:09
the blockchains pool and cryptocurrency
26:12
and Bitcoin like I said thank God it
26:16
existed but it’s nothing compared to
26:19
what is out there now people so it came
26:23
from the people if the government
26:26
created the technology you’re not gonna
26:28
see it for 25 years I know for a fact I
26:31
have worked on black programs I worked
26:33
on a program while at Lockheed that took
26:36
20 years for it to be told to the world
26:40
even though it came out 20 years earlier
26:43
right hidden hidden you know in the
26:46
innards of military airplanes and
26:48
missiles what happe so so is if they
26:52
control the technology and so far they
26:54
have they will win but we now control
26:59
this technology people understand the
27:03
the this fork in the road that we are
27:07
approaching for the first time in
27:10
industrial history the people had been
27:14
given a tool to free themselves from
27:17
financial control and manipulation by
27:21
governments agencies financial
27:24
institutions regulatory bodies hello
27:26
we’re free but to be free we’ve got to
27:31
pick the up and use it you can’t
27:34
to sit and go God is here we’re saved no
27:37
it was what I had what’s happening
27:39
governments are already fighting back
27:41
but not trying to cripple us and things
27:43
but by creating their own China we’re
27:47
gonna have the crypto dollar soon and
27:48
equipped oh you’re all right right um
27:51
and so you need to understand that these
27:56
crypto currencies are illusions I mean
28:00
there will absolutely but the technology
28:03
in these crypto currencies rather than
28:05
freeing you from the government finds
28:08
you even closer in government’s webs and
28:14
no it will monitor every penny that you
28:18
make where it goes and to whom for a
28:21
long string it’ll they all know who
28:23
everybody is doing everything’s your
28:26
money and it’s all over for us
28:27
no you’ve got to keep control of it
28:30
ourselves
28:30
I’m sorry no no no problem so and would
28:33
you put and I’m assuming you would like
28:35
Facebook sleep in that same category
28:37
even though they’re obsessively a
28:39
private company it’s still the same
28:41
thing they’re controlling it yes what I
28:43
said agency I meant private companies
28:45
coconut regulatory bodies bank you name
28:47
it no absolutely it’s a travesty sand
28:51
abomination all of dunces gives facebook
28:55
absolute knowledge of everything you do
28:57
though not just your friends and what
29:00
you’re doing or what you st. now what
29:01
you’re spending where and why because
29:04
please god no stay away from that yeah
29:06
yeah yeah totally different subject just
29:10
popped into my head while we’re talking
29:12
something I actually wanted to ask you
29:14
when I first reached out to you when you
29:15
were in Cuba and when you were in 2016
29:20
right after Gary Johnson got the
29:22
nomination you gave a speech where you
29:24
started essentially by saying I should
29:26
have said this from the beginning and
29:27
I’m I wish I had said it from the
29:29
beginning but I look out at this
29:30
audience and I see that it’s 75 percent
29:33
male and like 99.9 percent white or
29:36
whatever and you know shame on you for
29:38
the fact that it’s that way not even
29:40
specific to the Libertarian Party but to
29:42
the message of libertarianism and
29:43
freedom in general why do you think it
29:45
hasn’t spread better or has failed to
29:48
spread
29:48
amongst the groups racial minorities of
29:52
religious minorities LGBT people who are
29:54
the most likely to be victimized by
29:55
government why do you think it hasn’t
29:57
appealed more to them because there’s a
30:00
great law of naivete built in sure I did
30:03
another interview earlier today ok with
30:07
a relatively aggressive a very nice
30:09
young libertarian sort and so he was
30:14
grilling me about my my respect for Che
30:17
Guevara and so he was giving an example
30:20
of how che had executed a bunch of
30:23
people they didn’t know whether they
30:25
were going on executed right and he said
30:28
that’s without due process know that
30:31
flabbergasted me of course he did yes
30:33
many times
30:35
please somebody pick up a documentary on
30:39
World War two and take in it Dada
30:43
do you realize that the the the murder
30:47
of innocence is part of war and if you
30:50
got me America is the worst offender Lee
30:53
dropped the atomic bomb on the city of
30:55
Nagasaki right exactly three 300,000
30:59
civilians a lot a single soldier not a
31:02
single military base not a single
31:04
military target so do you think that
31:07
this is not part of war than wait
31:10
the of people so yes yes he
31:13
assassinated those people it’s warm
31:16
please God you don’t have things like
31:20
due process in a war you’ve got your
31:24
buddy’s guts spilled out over the tank
31:26
and you’ll live in your you don’t look
31:28
you’re a survivor people are shooting at
31:30
you new Gutzon hostages which may be
31:32
part of the enemy you shoot them this is
31:35
what they do in wars please God people
31:38
wake up that’s not unit a you understand
31:41
ok naivete in thinking to the world is a
31:44
nice place and we’re all gonna be
31:46
pleasantly chaw there you can just have
31:48
the right laws we all say no you can’t
31:50
hurt anybody that no one’s gonna hurt
31:52
him
31:52
no you got to be honest that everyone’s
31:54
gonna be honest no you must keep your
31:57
contracts
31:57
no one will we’re dealing with people a
32:01
mixed
32:02
bag of love caring compassion an anger
32:06
hate jealousy paranoia good God where I
32:10
mix Fagin we will not adhere to the
32:13
simplicity that are on a spoken in the
32:19
Libertarian Party they can be fixed so
32:21
you expect a black man on the streets of
32:23
Chicago to listen to the B that our
32:27
leaders spout and say yeah I want that
32:30
they’re going you guys are crazy you
32:34
have no real experience with life
32:37
warfare lost danger injustice because
32:44
this will still be with us after even if
32:47
the libertarian pure philosophy spreads
32:50
worldwide you’ll have just as much chaos
32:53
perhaps more so and we have now because
32:56
the problem is not Democrat Republican
32:59
libertarian no no the problem is human
33:03
being right we up species and so
33:07
governments will be up as a
33:09
result right we’re governments are an
33:12
extension of what we’ve asked for in
33:13
democratic countries for the most part
33:15
so so you think it’s a level of
33:17
sheltering so then let me ask you this
33:19
did you ever see the movie idiocracy No
33:23
okay so idiocracy is a movie about how
33:26
technology is in protecting people from
33:30
getting people that previously if you
33:33
know if you apply to Darwinism people
33:36
that previously would have died as a
33:38
result of their stupid choices
33:40
technology and you know medical care and
33:42
so forth saves them and so over time you
33:44
have sort of a reverse a reverse
33:47
selections process where stupid people
33:51
have more kids than smart people and so
33:53
society just becomes dumber and dumber
33:55
do you agree with that premise or do you
33:57
think that it’s good that people aren’t
33:59
dying more easily or whatever I greet
34:03
fully with that premise I mean to you my
34:05
friend right or wearing glasses yes no
34:09
glasses are relatively new in bench
34:11
right right before when people could not
34:14
see very well it was
34:16
course we had eaten hearing all live
34:18
trip in the hole they were the first to
34:20
go
34:21
right so so what’s happening now that
34:23
people have glasses our eyesight is
34:26
slowly getting worse and worse and worse
34:29
and of course it would because we’re
34:31
trying to correct a genetic problem how
34:37
much I’m sorry the only technology that
34:40
genetics has any reference for is the
34:44
technology of mathematics and gene
34:49
replication that’s it that’s the only
34:51
thing that genetics gives it should
34:53
about so yes we of course we’re getting
34:56
stupider of course we have we’re living
34:59
in a society that pays people not to
35:03
work you tell me where we’re headed he’s
35:06
God
35:07
right right right fair enough fair
35:11
enough we have time for one more
35:13
question my friend I’m so sorry hey very
35:15
good well then let me okay
35:17
then I’m then I’m gonna go straight for
35:19
it Hong Kong I I assume that you’ve been
35:22
following at least Han generally what’s
35:24
been going on in Hong Kong what are your
35:26
thoughts on that and how do you think it
35:28
parallels what’s going on in the US if
35:30
at all I wish it did parallel with quite
35:33
frankly no I don’t know if you’ve
35:36
watched yeah the dedication the bravery
35:40
courage the the sting committed and the
35:45
true belief in their position that the
35:50
Hong Kong people have I mean could God
35:51
look at them they’re wearing gas dress
35:53
and umbrellas and raincoats and they’re
35:55
going to lots of teargas and funny there
36:00
are out there aren’t they they are
36:02
walking and storming the streets they
36:04
are making a noise they are raising
36:07
their voice now right I wish the
36:10
people in America had that degree of
36:14
commitment to their ideals their hopes
36:17
the dreams more importantly to their
36:20
families and ones they love right you
36:22
don’t yeah I don’t know what yeah we’ve
36:25
talked about how on the show how if Hong
36:28
Kong if the people of Hong Kong
36:30
we’re armed like Americans were or if
36:32
the American people had the tenacity
36:35
that the Hong Kong people had we
36:37
wouldn’t be worried about the stuff
36:38
we’re worried about no of course not we
36:41
are lazy
36:42
we are lackadaisical we ignore the
36:48
reality around us and it is so easy to
36:50
ignore the reality around you now all
36:53
you have to do if you don’t like your
36:55
reality collector smart oh right log it
36:59
into Facebook or something and you are
37:01
now in a different reality right and you
37:03
don’t have to pay attention to the tiger
37:06
at the door that’s starving and intent
37:09
on eating your life I can forget about
37:12
that because I’ve got Facebook Twitter
37:14
Instagram and use an infinite number of
37:19
movies with whole box office and Netflix
37:22
so we don’t need to pay attention to the
37:25
reality around us the people it will
37:29
come very soon the day when you wish you
37:33
get paid attention and it’s not
37:38
far off now I believe I will get to see
37:41
it and I hope I live to see the reverse
37:44
which is people who wake themselves up
37:47
and realize life is not a dream it’s
37:51
hard it’s rewarding a total mystery and
37:55
excitement
37:57
it’s a mystery every single day if you
38:02
see the reality around you because the
38:04
reality around you goes you don’t really
38:06
matter too much to us that’s what the
38:08
reality around you says you’re simply a
38:10
tiny spark of the him in an infinite
38:14
universe
38:15
you just don’t matter and if you see how
38:18
you just don’t matter and suddenly you
38:21
will matter to yourself because you’re
38:24
gonna be paying intentions or mother
38:25
the universe isn’t out to support
38:28
me and feed me no it’s a government
38:31
that’s gonna support you feed you and
38:33
write if you warm and no no now the
38:36
universe is indifferent apparently
38:38
totally fine you people gotta take
38:41
responsibility you don’t wake up
38:43
take action I don’t care if it’s just
38:46
opening your window and going it
38:49
walking down the street with a sign
38:51
going taxation is theft am I paying
38:54
anymore we’re try not filing a tax
38:57
return check it out it’s not illegal why
38:59
are they after me I did it for ten years
39:02
they didn’t bother me only after I
39:04
started speaking on national stages
39:06
about right you guys want to know kind
39:09
of never pay taxes and never be under
39:13
the thumb of a corrupt overbearing
39:17
pyramidal structure government has has
39:20
only one thing in mind its own
39:24
self-preservation not the country’s not
39:27
the government here we are folks do
39:31
something and thank you so much for
39:32
having me
39:33
absolutely John thanks again for coming
39:35
on and guys thanks again for for joining
39:38
us on this special Monday brunch episode
39:40
of my fellow Americans tune in tomorrow
39:42
were for the money waters of freedom
39:44
we’re Matt Wright and I will be parsing
39:46
through the week’s events like the sweet
39:48
autumn cherubs that we are thanks again
39:49
for tuning in and god bless ya
39:52
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Spike Cohen
Spike Cohen
Local Jew. Contrarian stoic sentimentalist. Antidisestablishmentarianism. Will pet your dog.