(((My Fellow Americans))) #50: Johnny Be VP with John Phillips Jr.

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always guys I’ve had some presidential
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candidates on the show before but this
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is my first vice presidential candidate
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he is running as Kim roughs running mate
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you’ll remember I had her on about three
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or four months ago now and she was
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amazing he is her running mate to get
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the Libertarian Party nomination for the
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presidential and vice presidential race
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he is also the region six representative
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for the libertarian National Committee
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as well as a businessman a mechanic a
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writer and activist a husband and a
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father ladies and gentlemen my fellow
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Americans please welcome to the show mr.
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John Phillips jr. John thank you so much
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for joining us thanks for having me I
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and a good job at trying to trip me up
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well while I in my in my ear I I think
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you got me one time or two I think you
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got me two times actually I am so happy
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to finally have you on when I was
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introducing you I was worried that one
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of us would actually disappear fun fact
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guys this episode has been about two
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months in the making it has been
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rescheduled I don’t even remember how
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many times due to hurricanes and family
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obligations and health stuff and and all
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sorts of stuff but you’re here now John
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and I refuse to let you go so thank you
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for for coming on it’s all Trump’s fault
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yes welcome to Trump’s America guys and
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guys be sure to comment with your what’s
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that no I just giggled yeah be sure to
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comment with your questions and thoughts
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and John and I will tell you if you are
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right or wrong now John this is your
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first time on the show and the first
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thing I always ask my guess is to tell
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us a little story a ditty if you will
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about how you came about being a
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libertarian was it an aha moment or kind
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of a gradual evolution tell us your your
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didy tell us John’s didy it was
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definitely a gradual thing okay
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the got involved in politics in an early
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age I started drawing political cartoons
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in middle school oh so that
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back reagan-era and came across Ron Paul
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back then when he was still firmly
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libertarian and was intrigued but you
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know as I still have a version to
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authority I did then and just didn’t
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want to sign on with a party so I stayed
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independent I checked out the Democrats
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on what checked out the Republicans I’ve
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actually been to a convention of each
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then came across Harry Brown in the 90s
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I said but before that actually worked
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for Ross Perot well I say I worked for
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Ross Perot I was a very low-level
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volunteer that took signs around places
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okay yeah the and then then came across
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Harry Brown I said man I really liked it
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I liked this libertarian thing it’s
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growing on me
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I wasn’t quite ready to sign on yet and
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then there was a couple little issues
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there in the early 2000s that ran me off
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for a little bit longer and then Garry
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Johnson came back around and I was like
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you know hey there he’s not perfect but
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I really like what this party is doing
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and the way they’re going so I’m just
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gonna jump in with both feet very cool
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so interestingly enough so most people
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when I talked to them and they talked
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about their first time about hearing
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about Ron Paul most of the time and it
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this isn’t really it’s kind of not
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really exclusive to any specific age
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group but most of the time they’ll talk
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about either you know 2008 when he was
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one of the only Republicans that was
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against the Iraq war or when he ran for
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president as the only anti-war
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Republican or then in 2012 maybe a few
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people that would remember when he would
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criticize some of the actions that were
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being taken in the early 2000s every
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once in a while I’ll talk to someone who
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remembers him from the 80s when he was a
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libertarian who ran for president and
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was at 88 I think it was yeah and and
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like you know they’ll talk about when he
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was on Morton Downey jr. all the time
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and would you know he would be this was
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a time when the war on drugs was
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incredibly popular the DARE program was
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extremely popular just say no to drugs
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and he’s on there you know on you know
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broadcast television telling people we
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need to legalize cocaine like you know
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legalize everything and and the
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reception that that
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so that was your first kind of exposure
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to libertarianism and that was a big
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shock for a lot of people when he said
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those things that’s what’s cool about it
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but um it’s funny because now that’s
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maybe not the cocaine part but
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definitely at least you know legalizing
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marijuana and maybe loosening some of
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the restrictions of the war on drugs is
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almost mainstream at this point so it’s
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really interesting how you know Ron and
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people like him really you know took it
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on the chin for the rest of us so okay
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so you you got into that and then so
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Gary Johnson um like you said he’s not
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exactly your ideal libertarian but what
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what attracted you to what what made you
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kind of get off the fence for Gary the
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well I mean first of all I hated it the
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other candidates at the time there’s
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that the but you know with a few
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exceptions especially its 2012 Ron
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actually buddy did better in his 2012
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than his 2016 as far as presenting the
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message right but he did a pretty good
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job at presenting the message in a way
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that was palatable to people that had
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never heard it before and and didn’t
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come across for the most part there was
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a little bit of slack there but didn’t
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for the most part come across as just a
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were Republican light which is not what
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I want it to be right right
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even though and it’s interesting because
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even though he is a former Republican
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what two-term governor and and you know
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even still he didn’t come off as quite
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as much of a a one of the things that I
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talked about quite a bit in fact him and
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I talked about this when she was on is
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that this this perception of
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libertarians you hear one of two things
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when you talk to most people about
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libertarians they’ll say actually three
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things they’ll go oh you mean like Rand
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Paul or Ron Paul or they’ll say oh so
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you just like drugs or you like wheat or
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whatever or they’ll say isn’t that
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really just kind of like you know
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Republicans that are you know into you
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know drugs and you know what like so
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there’s sort of this perception among I
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guess
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many that the libertarian party is kind
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of a place where you know aging
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Republicans go to make one last failed
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hurrah you know the one I always get is
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oh isn’t that that group of racists that
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likes the KKK and I mean I get hardcore
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people and I’m just like do you even you
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obviously know nothing let me talk to
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you about this yeah that’s a great time
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to talk to them about that I don’t know
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anyone that would fit that bill actually
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I don’t yeah and that’s the thing is I
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don’t either
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and so I’m like where did you even get
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that idea let’s talk about this and I
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actually just formed a coalition
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actually and the local level with the
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central Illinois Democratic socialists
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and what they’re finding out all these
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things that they had heard about
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libertarianism were completely untrue
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and they’re like yeah we’re working on
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some marijuana legalization issues here
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locally we’re working on removing some
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government restrictions on what kind of
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grass you can you were growing your yard
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things like that right but I was just
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out at the pride fest and they’re like
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oh we didn’t realize libertarians
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supported LGBT rights and I was like are
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you kidding me we’ve supported them
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since the beginning right and you know
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and so the and so it’s funny how much
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information is just wrong that’s out
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there of it oh yeah I mean it’s it’s
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you’ve got well I mean major media is
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run by either Republicans or Democrats
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so obviously they’re they’re not gonna
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get you know let the message get out
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there but no I actually get that a lot
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that people will say well you know it’s
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good to see that libertarians are
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jumping on the lgbtq bandwagon and I’m
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like no they’ve they’ve they were
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cheating yeah they were championing that
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stuff in the 70s when they were founded
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when you couldn’t find a Democrat that
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would even outside of maybe the bay area
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or certain metro areas you couldn’t find
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mainstream politicians who were okay
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with homosexuality would publicly say
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they were okay with homosexuality even
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being legal so you know much less go
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ahead seventies they were still okay
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with it being considered a mental
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illness right right though ya know III
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it’s interesting what people think I’m
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glad to hear that you are working
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outside of traditional libertarian
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circles that you’re working with like
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you know Democrats socialists whomever
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on specific things that you agree with
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because you there’s more power in
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numbers and also that gives you an
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opening to you know get rid of
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misperceptions they may have about
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libertarianism possibly yellow pill them
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into libertarianism or at the very least
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soften their perception and associations
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with libertarianism so that’s a really
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good especially on local issues the yeah
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we still have some disagreements on
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federal issues because they really want
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Medicare for all and things like that
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and so but on local issues yeah it’s all
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about hate quit making these regulations
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that hurt and for people right and so
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the zoning laws and things like that and
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that they those are libertarian issues
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that they can get right on board with so
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on the local level it works really well
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I’m still working on them on the federal
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level but yeah I’ve got him at least
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you’re looking at some of the things I
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talked to him about about free markets
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and healthcare and how the government’s
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actually made the health care system
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worse not better right so yeah but
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because we were able to work together in
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these other issues they’re more willing
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to listen on these and I also have to
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listen to theirs
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but I’ve also heard most of their
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arguments a million times so it’s not
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new to me but what I’m saying is new to
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them exactly and that’s the difference
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is that you’ve heard pretty much
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everything they have to say so when they
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say it okay great well you know I
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appreciate your your thoughts you are
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more than likely giving them a non
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caricatured version of what we actually
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think probably for the first time in
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most of their lives you know they’ve
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heard things like ona won’t pay for your
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health care but they’re not hearing like
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the actual libertarian argument behind
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why health care was how health care was
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made worse by government why having the
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government more involved is going to
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make it worse and how this isn’t about
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selfishness it’s literally about freeing
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the markets that you know people can do
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better whether it’s health care whether
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it’s self-defense
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whether it’s transportation food
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whatever whatever you know issue you
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have
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you know economics whatever that it’s
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not about being selfish and only for me
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it’s about recognizing that having
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government centrally planned everything
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is a demonstrable E worse way to do
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things so it’s really good that you’re
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that you’re doing that um now admittedly
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I’ve only known about you for the better
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part of this year much better now that I
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know you huh the research I’ve done I’m
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gonna use that rimshot that’s my new
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thing
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but I’m actually doing it for the first
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time on this show so I bear with me from
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the research I’ve done you’ve been very
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active in politics particularly in the
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libertarian party you’ve been working to
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secure ballot access in multiple states
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you founded the Macon County Illinois
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chapter of the libertarian party and
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helped to co-found other party chapters
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you ran a mayoral campaign and got
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within a few points of winning it you
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served on the libertarian party’s
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national platform committee you’ve run
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as a write-in candidate for the Macon
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County Council you’re running for the
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Decatur City Council I’m getting tired
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of that elections over
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that was actually last spring okay so
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you did do that I’m actually getting
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tired of reading this like I’m wearing
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down I’m about to wrap up the show after
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we visits Barry currently the region six
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representative to the libertarian
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National Committee you also serve on
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their ballot access committee last year
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you were awarded the Jim Waldron Award
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for outstanding local service by the
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Libertarian Party of Illinois in
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addition to all of this you own and
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operate a business full time are active
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in many hobbies and are a devoted
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husband and father John when are you
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going to grow up and do something with
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your life all right what am I gonna
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sleep yeah I mean so obviously you’re
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passionate about this right like so what
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drives you because one thing I’ve heard
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from a lot of libertarian activists that
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after six months a year two years they
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will they’ll burn out because they feel
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like it’s not catching or they’re not
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making I guess the kind of impact that
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they thought they would and I find also
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a lot of them the ones that are saying
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that tend to focus on like the federal
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level where they feel like they’re truly
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like you know pissing in the wind which
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to some extent they may be
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what drives you to continue doing this
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year after year especially on the local
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and regional levels like what what is
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that thing that you that you go to when
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you are feeling like you know okay you
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know the Republican one again or the
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Democrat one again or whatever and that
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does happen I do have those days but it
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comes down to really a couple things the
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first are my two kids I really don’t I
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want them to grow up with more freedoms
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than they have now right preferably more
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freedoms than I had when I was a kid
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which was a lot more than they have now
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and the other thing is I go around and I
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have friends that you know are having
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medical issues and I look at them and I
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look at how the government’s getting in
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the way of them getting treatment for
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their medical issues right I’m looking
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at government getting in the way of
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their pain treatment looking I’ve got
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friends that are also trying to be in
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trompin or that are watching the
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government getting away of them trying
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to start their businesses and so every
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time I turn around I see somebody that’s
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close to me getting screwed over by the
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government one way or another right
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right and and it kind of pisses me off
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so that’s what keeps me going
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so it’s with the anger fuel you
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basically yeah fair enough
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so you’re in Illinois which is I mean I
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what I know about Illinois is somewhere
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in capital of the world right it’s like
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one of the highest tax bases in the in
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the in the US I don’t know how close
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Macon County is to the Chicagoland area
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I know that’s obviously the worst but
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pretty I mean it’s it’s Chicago kind of
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dominating the rest of the state in
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terms of state politics right mm-hmm no
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yeah and the with you what a lot of
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people don’t know is that Illinois has
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almost twice as many units of government
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as the next closest state Wow so it’s
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over 7,000 in the next closest is
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California at like just over 4,000 and
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it’s yeah it’s just crazy
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that’s insane especially when you
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consider that California is easily the
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largest state in terms of population so
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per capita it’s even worse right like
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it’s like right right and easily the
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moat and they’re reasonably the most
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socialist state so it’s really crazy and
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then I guess you know not coincidentally
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also one of the
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most if not the most corrupt state in
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the in the in the country yes I think
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it’s five out of the last eight
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governor’s have served time in prison
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something like that whereas Michigan
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only had the one so that’s you got
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bright Michigan is it has that going for
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them but I yeah I you know the jokes
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about we’ve got the record I think we’ve
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got the record for the most governor’s
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in prison at one time that I can’t
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imagine that wouldn’t be the case I that
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sounds I mean like you said the majority
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of the last eight governors and half of
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the last ten governors have served time
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in prison for stuff related to what they
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did while they were governors that’s a
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that’s a pretty impressive record we’ve
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got and we’ve got the FBI all over the
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state of Chicago right now raiding
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Offices of state congressman so it’s
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it’s almost I mean correct me if I’m
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wrong it’s almost as though the more
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power you centralize into one
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organization the more corrupt that
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organization gets imagine that it’s
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incredible it’s well it’s a world of
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wonders that we live in John let me go
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through the complement idea so we have
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some comments here Maria and beau says
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hi Tom Fotini Henderson says it never
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occurs to people that assistance can be
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crowd-sourced exactly and and Fotini
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that’s actually a very interesting thing
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and John I want to get your take on this
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the decentralization that’s happening
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thanks to the Internet uber GoFundMe
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Kickstarter lyft air B&B; where people
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are seeing whether they’re making that
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association or not that they don’t need
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this central structure to do things that
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they can actually get it better on again
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whether they’re making this you know
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connection or not on it pretty much as
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free market as possible are you seeing
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because you’re doing way more activism
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than me but really than I mean most
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people that I’ve talked to do you see
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there’s any kind of gap where maybe say
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Millennials or you know Gen Z or Gen X
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people are more perceptive to you know
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the idea that we just don’t need
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government at all then for example
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boomers or people right around the
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boomer age do you find that at all it’s
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really it’s actually kind of its kind of
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split up the you have the the older
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people like my grandparents age who you
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know actually you know maybe a little
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bit younger than that but my parent my
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parents age say who are boomers are
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starting you know they’re starting to
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see the we don’t need government the you
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get a little bit younger than that the
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50 60 year olds those are the ones that
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really are just so much still in love
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with the government that they couldn’t
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sack or they don’t feel like they could
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live without it
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yeah and then as you get younger from
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there less and less dependence on it
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though you see weird dichotomies with it
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because you see them all excited about
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uber and the relaxed restrictions there
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right but then you see them complain oh
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we shouldn’t have to crowdfund our our
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medical costs on blink crowd-funding
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your medical cost is a great stat it’s
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way better than insurance it’s way way
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better and you can do it on your own
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terms and and I mean I obviously I’m
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preaching to the choir but you can do it
23:16
way cheaper if the government were less
23:17
involved but the rest I asked you that
23:20
was because I have found that like you
23:23
said there’s a weird dichotomy right
23:25
like so my age I’m in my late 30s my age
23:28
and and younger they might be more
23:31
perceptive to you know a Bernie Sanders
23:33
or you know the talk of the the word
23:36
socialism but then when you actually
23:38
talk to them about what they want they
23:40
want less government they want less drug
23:41
restrictions they want less you know you
23:44
know they want less restrictions in
23:45
general they see that the government is
23:48
just getting in the way of them enjoying
23:50
their lives and and and they tend but
23:52
yet the the labeling and the marketing
23:54
of socialism seems to appeal to them
23:56
more it seems to be the reverse for like
23:59
people my mom’s age and my dad’s my
24:01
mom’s in her late 60’s and my dad is in
24:03
his 80s the word socialism to them is
24:06
you know the depo it’s the devil
24:08
socialism communism in want to hear a
24:10
thing about that but then and my parents
24:12
are both very loving and supportive of
24:14
me but when I talk to them about my
24:15
ideas and I’m an anarchist so I mean
24:17
obviously my ideas are very extreme but
24:19
even just the idea of government not
24:21
being involved you know at all or very
24:24
little I get to look like the almost
24:27
thousand-yard stare like it’s so foreign
24:29
that that idea so it’s weird it’s like
24:32
they’re more okay with the actual
24:34
implementation of socialism or something
24:36
so close to socialism than the labeling
24:38
of it whereas people that are younger
24:41
generally speaking tend to be better
24:44
with the branding and labeling of
24:45
socialism than with the actual
24:47
implementation of it so I guess you’re
24:48
seeing the same thing for the most part
24:50
right for the most part it really it
24:53
comes down to really what’s what issues
24:54
you start talking about right you know
24:57
my older family is you know very much
25:00
anti anti government when it comes to
25:02
Second Amendment and things like that
25:03
right and young younger people tend to
25:06
be more wishy-washy on the Second
25:08
Amendment yeah older people tend to be
25:11
more keep the government out of my
25:12
healthcare the younger people seem seem
25:14
to be more oh well let the government
25:16
you know I’m okay with the government
25:18
running my health care I just don’t want
25:19
him to tell me what to do other than
25:20
that you know and so they want the
25:23
government not telling them what they
25:24
were to do but they don’t but they still
25:28
want the government paying their bills
25:30
like you’re not my real dad but ya know
25:33
III that’s actually true that that’s
25:36
actually what the way I describe is I
25:38
would say the conservatives and
25:40
Republicans they want government to be
25:42
the strict dad you know oh you can’t do
25:45
this you can’t do that and we’re not
25:47
paying for you to do this so we’re not
25:48
paying for you to do that get out get a
25:50
job right and the Democrats and the
25:52
Socialists they want the they want the
25:55
government to be the helicopter mom oh
25:57
well we’re not going to tell you what to
25:59
do you can do whatever you want but
26:01
we’re gonna make sure you’re taken care
26:03
of and we’re not you you know it’s not
26:05
your fault and you know and neither one
26:07
of which embraces self responsibility
26:10
and that’s a problem right right both
26:12
they’re different extremes it’s
26:14
interesting that you say about older
26:16
people wanting government out of their
26:18
health care which is true I hear that a
26:19
lot but then they’ll say they’ll say
26:20
things they’ll say they’ll unyk lis say
26:22
something like I want government to stay
26:24
I want big government liberals
26:25
to stay out of my Medicare you like you
26:29
know and they’re not like they don’t
26:30
they’re so disconnected from and again
26:33
I’m generally speaking I’m not I mean
26:35
some of my favorite ruffler boomers but
26:39
generally speaking there
26:41
such disconnect between like what how
26:44
little they destruct how much they
26:46
distrust government in general and then
26:48
how much like they’ll say something like
26:50
I don’t want these big government
26:52
Democrats letting in all these
26:54
immigrants and it’s like okay but you
26:56
need a massive government fortress to
26:58
keep everyone out and you know I want
27:01
Democrats away from my Medicare I want
27:03
Democrats like I just saw an ad keep
27:04
keep the Democrats away from your
27:06
Medicare and I’m like I remember when
27:08
Republicans were dead-set against
27:09
Medicare it was way back when Obama was
27:12
president right drives me crazy because
27:17
I just you know the and I see this all
27:20
the time and all the discussions about
27:22
yet they use the same arguments to argue
27:26
different things right you know I’m you
27:28
know that when you know your Republican
27:30
argument oh let me keep my guns you know
27:33
guns aren’t killing people right and you
27:36
know here’s the here’s the statistics to
27:38
show that they’re not okay you’re right
27:39
thank you for using that then maybe you
27:42
should listen to the Democrat that’s
27:44
telling you that immigrants aren’t
27:46
killing people exactly and all that and
27:49
vice versa you know if hey mr. Democrat
27:51
that’s telling us about the only
27:52
statistics about immigrants maybe you
27:54
should actually look at the statistics
27:55
about guns sir yeah yeah and yeah they
27:58
they’re just so can’t even hear that
28:01
they’re being completely hypocritical
28:03
about it that I you know I just don’t
28:06
get it it’s the it’s the it’s the binary
28:09
thing one thing that I’ve noticed is
28:11
that when I will give a when I’ll talk
28:16
to someone and give what they perceive
28:18
to be the other side’s talking point so
28:19
for example if I’m talking with a
28:23
Republican or conservative about
28:25
immigration and I’ll say you know the
28:27
government really should not be
28:28
restricting my private property right to
28:31
you know host higher or houses whomever
28:34
I wish on my private property and and
28:35
they’re having to steal people’s land
28:37
and build walls on it to do this and you
28:39
know they’re doing all these
28:40
restrictions they’re also restricting
28:42
our ability to leave you know and these
28:44
aren’t good and they’ll say yeah but but
28:46
you know the government what about the
28:48
Democrats they want to restrict your
28:50
right to own guns and I’ll say yeah no
28:51
I’m against that too and it kind of
28:53
destroys their they
28:54
they I find often they will either
28:56
change the subject or just not want to
28:58
talk about anymore or launch into ad
29:00
hominem because it completely Democrats
29:03
and Republicans are so you used to
29:05
correctly accusing each other of being
29:07
hypocrites all day that when someone
29:09
comes in and apply something consistent
29:11
it just completely blows them out of the
29:13
water
29:13
and they don’t know how to handle it
29:15
totally confuses them and it you can
29:18
watch the cognitive dissonance yes watch
29:20
it take over their brain and watch their
29:23
head start to hurt
29:24
absolutely now I mentioned boomers and I
29:27
knew I know that when I mentioned
29:30
boomers on this show if Tom Arnold isn’t
29:33
already watching it will summon Tom
29:35
Arnold I’m sure he has some kind of he’s
29:38
probably one of the most tech adept
29:41
people I know he has some kind of app on
29:44
his phone that if my voice says boomer
29:47
on the internet then here is Tom Tom
29:50
thank you so much for joining the show
29:51
tom was a guest actually a huge fan of
29:53
Tom my favorite libertarians ever and so
29:57
I love I absolutely love Tom I can’t
30:00
wait to actually meet him in person he’s
30:01
an awesome guy but he says no more rim
30:04
shot or you know I really like the rim
30:07
shots well think about that tom says we
30:10
we don’t sleep until we die john boomers
30:13
question mark question mark question
30:15
mark yeah and personal injury attorney
30:18
Chris Reynolds attorney at law says
30:20
let’s be honest at home arguments
30:23
against bike are pretty easy to make no
30:24
that’s true no that’s absolutely true
30:25
they’ll be like yeah but you know your
30:28
face is stupid and I’m like okay granted
30:30
but whatever I was talking about so
30:34
that’s true but um I I was like that
30:38
they are they they make some some attack
30:40
just like that and I like kid okay yeah
30:42
I’m ugly okay yeah what’s your point and
30:44
let’s move on yeah your wife’s way
30:46
hotter than you I’m like I’m aware of
30:48
that and I’m well aware thank you I’m
30:52
good with that and she appreciates it as
30:54
well can we go back to the subject now
30:56
of course you were running with Kim
31:00
rough to get the libertarian party’s
31:02
nomination for president and vice
31:04
president of the United States of
31:06
America this is I think
31:08
first time I’ve seen people start their
31:10
campaign as running mates is that as
31:12
does that common how did that come about
31:14
no it’s not common at all it’s it’s very
31:16
different than what most people do right
31:18
now in any party though of course we are
31:21
the only party that actually does have
31:23
to run for election for the
31:24
vice-president I suppose being selected
31:26
right right it’s very young very very
31:28
uncommon so what brought that about like
31:30
what we’re did that where did that idea
31:31
come from came from her the the there
31:37
was some debate about which one of us
31:39
was going to take the top of the ticket
31:40
and I told her I said it’s got to be you
31:42
you’re far well more far more
31:44
well-spoken than I am but the but we
31:50
actually yeah it just we were talking on
31:53
the phone after the New Orleans
31:55
convention and it just kind of
31:58
materialized it was right hill very very
32:01
organic and it just started and you know
32:04
I’m gonna I’m not even gonna hide it
32:06
when we first started it was we’re not
32:08
gonna have a chance we’re gonna do this
32:10
so we’re gonna go out there and we’re
32:11
gonna be like Daryl prairies or were
32:13
somebody or Marc Feldman who said a lot
32:15
of good things but it’s not gonna get
32:17
anywhere right right right
32:18
and and but we’re and we’re gonna
32:21
embrace that and then we went out and
32:23
next thing you know people going we want
32:26
to work for you we want to work for you
32:27
we want to spread the word for you we
32:28
want to affiliate to your cause we want
32:30
and now you know people are you know are
32:34
calving me on talk shows or your
32:36
podcasts and inviting me to speak at
32:39
their conventions and and it’s
32:42
completely blown up and it’s it’s still
32:44
mind-boggling to me yeah it’s really I I
32:47
was actually I mean you guys announced I
32:50
think before anyone else so you’ve been
32:52
doing it for Adam Koch Esch announced
32:55
like in 2016 before the last election
33:01
right and Arvin and Arvin announced at
33:05
the last in oral in New Orleans about a
33:08
month before we did okay okay I didn’t
33:11
know that so but you guys announced some
33:13
time last year right 2018 Yeah right
33:15
after New Orleans okay there’s like yeah
33:18
New Orleans this July 4th weekend it was
33:20
just before
33:22
that we immense okay um and so so
33:26
obviously you guys have known each other
33:27
for a while
33:28
um I had the pleasure of having him on
33:30
the show a few months back she’s like I
33:33
said she’s just amazing
33:34
now Kim as you know Kim like me is an
33:36
anarchist do you consider yourself an
33:38
anarchist or more of a Mannerist
33:40
constitutionalist hell it told me about
33:42
that everybody who asked me that
33:45
question I give them the same I give
33:47
them the same question back long term or
33:50
short term long term Aryans I’ll give
33:56
you the long term is long term I
33:58
consider myself an anarchist okay but I
34:01
think that the human race is not there
34:05
yet it’s gonna require some more mental
34:08
evolution across the board before we can
34:11
fully embrace it so currently I consider
34:14
myself am an artist but an artist being
34:17
me and goal somewhere down the line in
34:19
the future fair enough I mean I say this
34:22
often whether it’s because of
34:24
conditioning or human nature or some
34:28
combination thereof I tend to lean more
34:29
towards conditioning if I were to wake
34:32
up and snap my fingers I got the Thanos
34:34
glove and I snap my fingers and all
34:37
government disappears everyone else is
34:39
gonna turn around at me and go what the
34:40
hell did you just do and they’ll
34:42
immediately go to rebuilding some other
34:44
government and there’s a decent chance
34:46
that government’s gonna suck even worse
34:48
than the current governments we have
34:50
because the current governments we have
34:51
are built on the foundations of people
34:54
who weren’t quite as bad as the people
34:55
who are like for the most part like I I
34:58
still say that the Constitution was a
35:03
bad move to replace the Articles of
35:06
Confederation with the Constitution but
35:09
I will say that the Constitution as
35:11
statist of a sum of the mindsets of the
35:14
people like Hamilton and people that
35:16
were behind it is far and above better
35:18
than what the current menagerie of
35:21
people would come up with if they were
35:23
given a clean slate it would not look
35:25
like anything like anything even
35:27
resembling limiting government I talk to
35:30
these people who are pushing the
35:31
Constitutional Convention all the time I
35:34
and I keep telling him you’re insane
35:37
because you don’t know what you’re gonna
35:40
get
35:40
we don’t need a constitutional
35:41
convention we need to enforce the
35:44
Constitution when if we’ve got anybody
35:48
got government back to fit inside what
35:51
the Constitution says that would be a
35:53
good start I don’t think that’s where we
35:55
need to stop right but that is so far
35:58
from where we’re at right now that it’s
36:00
almost unrecognizable and if you put
36:02
those same people in charge of a
36:04
constitutional convention they’re gonna
36:06
take away the Second Amendment they’re
36:08
gonna do all kinds of crazy crap the
36:10
Constitutional Convention what is it
36:14
article 5 or something like that the
36:16
Constitutional Convention argument I’ve
36:19
distilled it down to this politicians
36:21
have so dis I’m so poorly mangled you
36:27
know their interpretation of the
36:29
Constitution that we need to have them
36:31
rewrite it it’s the most but it drives
36:36
me nuts like I don’t I don’t and I’ll
36:39
say you know who’s gonna be in charge
36:41
right no go but we the people will make
36:43
them write it right and I’m like but you
36:45
didn’t make them enforce the current one
36:47
so what I mean right
36:49
right there it’s nonsensical to to think
36:52
that letting them I mean if you want to
36:56
if we want to go full Boogaloo and
36:58
rewrite a constitution maybe but it yeah
37:01
but if you’re just gonna have a
37:02
constitutional convention the Democrats
37:04
and Republicans are going to run the
37:06
convention and they’re gonna screw it
37:08
all up yeah I mean okay so I’ll give you
37:12
that so yeah if we’re talking like
37:14
post-revolution you know the the the you
37:17
know the remainder of the people that
37:19
are still standing you know rewrite this
37:21
thing which I would also possibly scare
37:23
scare me depending on who might yeah
37:26
depending on who survives but I could
37:27
you know something like because again
37:29
the last one was written shortly after a
37:30
revolution that obviously the the
37:32
Articles of Confederation in my mind I’m
37:35
gonna rant slightly the Articles of
37:36
Confederation were in my mind an
37:38
absolute attempt at a limited government
37:41
a government that could not directly tax
37:42
a government that basically had to you
37:45
know crowdsource stuff when it wanted it
37:47
a
37:47
government that or at least at on the
37:49
state level they could tax but on the
37:51
federal level they couldn’t tax they
37:52
could never standing army they couldn’t
37:54
you know the they needed unanimous
37:56
approval to change anything it was in my
37:59
mind like people who had just finished
38:01
shooting at British law enforcement and
38:04
said yeah we’re gonna make something way
38:05
more pared down than this the
38:07
Constitution was sort of a mix of people
38:11
who wanted to create something more
38:13
similar to Europe and people who didn’t
38:15
want that but thought that there weren’t
38:17
quite enough powers vested in the
38:19
federal government but again way better
38:22
than what the current crop of
38:24
politicians would come up with so if if
38:27
you’re if your mindset is that
38:28
politicians are ruining everything from
38:30
the from what the founders intended then
38:33
the idea that you would take those exact
38:35
same politicians and entrust with them
38:37
the ability to rewrite the damn thing
38:40
from article 1 all the way to whatever
38:43
the last amendment is is horrifying to
38:46
me oh yeah terrifying I you know I I
38:51
think you could make a purge movie out
38:53
of it or something if you know like I
38:57
don’t I don’t I don’t get it I never
38:59
will get it and and but you know what I
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tease everybody with pictures from the
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dadbod calendar oh we’re getting there
40:06
oh we’re getting there my friend so John
40:08
if you and Kim win the election can I be
40:11
your press secretary I think that’s
40:16
Kim’s job to point that so you’re asking
40:19
the wrong person
40:20
but you can fight it out with Aaron pile
40:22
now I’m gonna warn you that she bites
40:24
and that’s right oh yeah Aaron she’s
40:29
mean on those ankles I’m warning you
40:30
right now I really like my ankles too
40:35
maybe I can be undersecretary I’ll talk
40:40
with you I believe we can make that work
40:41
we can make that work I can be like the
40:43
alternate you know when Aaron’s busy I
40:46
can I just want I just want to go up
40:47
there the podium and just blast the
40:49
media even once a month I’d be okay with
40:51
but um okay well good enough so I think
40:55
we should set I think we should set that
40:56
up you know the yeah once a month spike
40:59
gets to blast the media I make it an
41:02
official policy yeah I I uh like I think
41:07
that’s a great idea we can we can live
41:08
stream
41:08
well it’ll be on c-span something off to
41:10
live stream it but no I think that’ll be
41:13
good so what would you say are your I
41:17
don’t know top I hate picking numbers
41:20
three things when you come into you know
41:22
you listen okay you get elected Kim ruff
41:27
John Phillips are you know Kim has just
41:30
given her seminal speech at the
41:32
inauguration you’re not walking into the
41:35
White House as president and vice
41:37
president what in your mind and
41:40
obviously to some extent the vice
41:41
presidential role is somewhat ceremonial
41:43
unless obviously you know Kim needed you
41:46
to step in the gap for some period of
41:48
time but in your mind
41:50
what would be your top let’s say three
41:53
priorities of a of a rough Phillips
41:55
administration or during the all the
41:58
troops home and I do mean all of them
42:00
not just the not just the ones that are
42:02
in the Middle East we would close down
42:05
bases in Germany close down bases in
42:07
Japan you know guess what if we’re
42:09
allies for those people we don’t need a
42:11
base there they should let us use theirs
42:14
that’s yeah yeah guess what have a
42:17
freebase we’re taking our stuff we’re
42:19
going home the that would be the
42:22
absolute first thing there’d be a whole
42:25
lot of pardoning of nonviolent offenders
42:27
and the biggest thing can you still hear
42:30
me kiss my from my video froze I can
42:33
hear you perfectly I’m not sure why your
42:35
video froze but you’re right it did
42:36
forget that’s right yeah it’s probably
42:40
my end I’ll get it yeah it is on your
42:42
end but that’s okay go ahead yeah no we
42:43
can hear you okay so as you hear the so
42:47
the second thing we would do is I say a
42:51
lot of partying of nonviolent offenders
42:53
but really it would come down to some
42:55
you know and I hate to use this term
42:56
executive orders there we go that is but
43:01
executive orders have reduced regulation
43:03
you know like right now that marijuana
43:07
is scheduled by the DEA well who does
43:10
the DEA work for the exact branch right
43:15
right
43:16
order some rescheduling a lot of the
43:20
medical you know a lot of people don’t
43:21
even realize how much of the medical
43:23
increase medical cost is due to Medicare
43:25
regulations and and it’s not laws passed
43:28
it’s some bureaucrat in an office saying
43:30
they’re writing these regulations yeah
43:32
no guess what start cutting those you
43:36
know a lot of things like that I think
43:38
would be would be our top three so D so
43:44
getting the troops out of everywhere
43:46
except the you everywhere bring in the
43:48
troops back deregulating just basically
43:53
massive executive orders repealing old
43:55
ones and deregulating as much as
43:57
possible and then I’m sorry what was the
43:59
third one pardon nonviolent offenders
44:01
yeah yeah that’s a big one I want to
44:04
talk about that really I want to talk
44:06
about all three of those but especially
44:07
the getting the troops home you can find
44:12
a lot of people that are cool with
44:13
bringing the troops that are fighting in
44:16
Afghanistan or Syria home for some
44:18
reason and especially I find this the
44:21
older they are if you talk about pulling
44:24
troops out of Germany or Japan or Korea
44:28
or but let’s have you talk about Korea
44:30
cuz Korea I get you know there’s a guy
44:33
and he’s a madman and he’s threatening
44:35
or whatever I still say pull him out but
44:37
I can see why someone in a statist
44:39
mindset would say you know we gotta keep
44:42
troops there because something might
44:43
blow
44:43
Germany what’s happening in Germany or
44:48
Japan and and and and often what I’ll
44:52
hear is people go well you know you
44:53
can’t trust those Germans or those Japs
44:55
and I’m like alright well then why do we
44:57
have a million troops there why are we
44:59
acting as their military if we can’t
45:01
trust them well that’s the I was taught
45:04
I was pointed out the other way around
45:05
because I’m always talking to the
45:07
Socialists about it and they’re talking
45:09
about how they have socialized Medicaid
45:11
medicate
45:13
socialized medical care over there right
45:15
right and I go well you know how they
45:17
afford it they afford it because we’re
45:18
footing the bill for their defense right
45:20
you know we shouldn’t be doing that
45:23
bring all the nervous oh oh well the if
45:24
you don’t then the rescues will come in
45:26
and they’ll do their thing really all
45:29
right this isn’t 1944 we can have planes
45:33
supersonic across the Atlantic in hours
45:37
not days and not you so you don’t need
45:43
to be there anymore
45:44
no and it’s yes we have planes and
45:47
missiles and whatever else but it’s even
45:48
deeper than that and and you know what’s
45:50
deeper than that I mean but oh I do too
45:52
I’m just that’s that’s my address that’s
45:54
how I address their room right right
45:55
right that that we don’t have to be what
45:58
is a person sitting in I’ve met people
46:00
who were stationed in Germany they’re
46:02
not sitting there waiting for the planes
46:04
to come they’re like living on a lot of
46:07
the time almost as tourists or living on
46:09
base just sitting there doing absolutely
46:11
nothing and it’s like pretending to work
46:14
on a tank while they nap underneath it
46:16
it’s a massive yeah it’s a massive
46:19
government jobs program and if your
46:22
argument is both that if your argument
46:24
is that well you know Russia might
46:26
invade well then a that’s ultimately
46:29
their problem and B I think you need to
46:32
look at the history of the fact that the
46:34
Russians aren’t this like evil monolith
46:38
any more than we are
46:40
despite all of the incursions that are
46:42
go you
46:42
you’re talking about the Russians Envy
46:43
when the last time the Russians invaded
46:46
somewhere was Afghanistan in the 1980s
46:49
or not it’s not true they recently took
46:51
a part of the Ukraine that they claim is
46:53
theirs but that’s like right next to
46:56
them the u.s. is invading every corner
47:00
of the planet who are we to talk about
47:02
oh they might invade oh you mean they
47:04
might act like us it should I don’t know
47:06
it’s right and and and they can’t seem
47:09
to understand that they can’t seem to
47:10
understand I talked to him about
47:11
creating terrorists oh well we need to
47:13
stop the terrorists we’re creating them
47:15
exactly
47:16
there were over there bombing them if
47:19
you know people get you know I was
47:21
telling somebody this the other day and
47:22
they just blew their mind and I couldn’t
47:24
believe it blew their mind Red Dawn is a
47:26
hugely popular American movie right and
47:30
I say you know what they’re fighting Red
47:34
Dawn against us right now that’s what’s
47:38
happening over there yeah yeah with the
47:40
difference being that they have
47:41
absolutely no shot against us
47:44
like they don’t have a reel in they have
47:47
a shot of making us lose the desire to
47:51
continue fighting them they don’t a shot
47:54
of actually hurting us here that’s what
47:56
you know I tell people as I say imagine
47:59
that and it sounds like you’re you’re
48:00
basically saying the same thing imagine
48:02
that and there’s that famous Ron Paul
48:04
video where he says you imagine that the
48:06
you know the Chinese you know bombed us
48:08
or something like that but imagine that
48:10
you’re in your wherever you live and you
48:12
are under the COTS every time you hear
48:14
an airplane or hear something fly over
48:17
you are in total fear because there’s
48:22
nowhere to run to hide from it if it is
48:24
a bomber you can’t go into a building
48:27
it’ll blow up the building there’s
48:29
nothing you can do you have to just
48:30
basically stand there and fear and hope
48:32
that it’s not going to that it’s not a
48:34
bomber or a drone and if it is that it’s
48:36
not going to attack you
48:37
you live in this constant state of fear
48:39
and the reason that this is is because
48:41
there’s some country government
48:43
organization whatever thousands of miles
48:45
away that sees some kind of like
48:47
geopolitical consideration in your area
48:50
has nothing to do with you or keeping
48:51
you safe or liberating you or anything
48:53
else it’s just that maybe there’s a way
48:56
in your area or there’s you know some
48:58
kind of you know you’re next to another
49:01
powerful area that they want to keep in
49:02
check or something like whatever and
49:05
because you notice that you notice that
49:07
we’re not fighting for people’s freedoms
49:09
and rights in places that don’t have any
49:12
mineral resources no yeah it despite the
49:15
fact that there are lots of countries
49:17
that have human rights oppression in
49:19
those areas
49:19
somehow we’re not fighting there yeah
49:22
it’s it’s odd it boggles the mind John
49:24
there are two two areas two two
49:26
qualifications that will keep you safe
49:28
from superpowers including the u.s. one
49:31
is to not really have much of anything
49:33
worth protecting and then two is having
49:36
nukes
49:36
which is why Iran and North Korea are
49:39
trying to get nukes but anyway or they
49:41
want them right why that why they want
49:43
them I’d want them to but so that you
49:45
know you’re constantly being attacked
49:47
you know every once in a while you know
49:49
the equivalent of a 911 happens in your
49:52
neighborhood you know every few days two
49:54
weeks where you know we just saw in
49:55
Afghanistan thirty pine nut farmers
49:57
imagine that you know a local farm gets
49:59
you know blown up in thirty people died
50:01
and your your local government is either
50:05
powerless to stop it or is complicit in
50:09
it and the only people that are fighting
50:11
against this are people who happen to
50:14
have your same faith and are convincing
50:16
you that this is a holy struggle between
50:18
you know us and these evil people
50:21
thousands of miles away they’re you know
50:24
God has has you know has put us together
50:27
in this holy biblical struggle to fight
50:29
against these people how quickly oh and
50:33
you’ve also lost countless loved ones
50:35
friends cousins you know possibly kids
50:39
parents whatever the closest people to
50:42
you you’ve lost how quickly would you
50:45
join up to join that group think of how
50:47
outraged you were on 9/11 and how quick
50:50
you were to say this is a biblical
50:51
struggle between the Christians and the
50:53
month it was one attack imagine that
50:55
happening constantly and and and now
50:58
explain to me how staying there and
51:00
continuing to bomb and continuing to
51:02
assassinate continuing to do all this
51:04
isn’t going to just make more terrorists
51:07
especially when you have the CIA arming
51:09
terror groups
51:10
well it tells me that it’s so hard for
51:12
them to understand because of how
51:13
popular resistance movies are in the
51:16
United States you know oh we’re
51:18
resisting this we’re resisting that you
51:20
know and you know this overpowering
51:22
government and we’re we’re the
51:24
resistance and we’re fighting against
51:25
this and those movies are hugely popular
51:28
United States and that they can’t
51:30
understand why other people do it yeah
51:34
ya know there’s it’s it’s a massive
51:36
cognitive dissonance we go and celebrate
51:39
groups that if they were real we’d be
51:41
calling them terrorists like the you
51:43
know you watch the Star Wars franchise
51:44
these are these are the terrorists these
51:47
are what we would call the terrorists
51:48
they literally have a religious order
51:50
where they’ve created you know and
51:51
they’re like fighting against this
51:53
massive expansive Empire um the guy who
51:57
created Star Wars Lucas he said George
51:59
Lucas yeah George Lucas he said when he
52:02
made it he was using parallels of
52:04
various you know empires of you know the
52:07
the the third right and he even included
52:09
the u.s. in Vietnam and how he used
52:13
Endor was an indoor the the with the
52:16
Ewoks and yeah and the and the he said
52:19
you know the whole point of this was to
52:20
you know the end the Ewoks were like the
52:23
Vietcong and the Empire was like the US
52:25
military and we could see this and then
52:28
somehow it doesn’t I don’t I don’t get
52:30
it but uh I also love that you’re
52:32
talking about free nonviolent offenders
52:35
I can’t stand when people are like whoa
52:37
if you’ve heard through the time don’t
52:38
do the crime and I always find that link
52:41
that’s that shows that like the average
52:43
American commits 11 felonies a week or
52:46
some ridiculous thing like right that
52:47
like we’re all committing crimes the
52:49
difference is that we haven’t been
52:52
caught and two we perceive that as being
52:56
okay but something like I think it’s
52:58
like two-thirds of people that are in
52:59
state and federal prison are there for
53:02
non victimless crimes so no one was
53:06
horror-struck no one was stolen from no
53:08
one was hurt physically no one was
53:10
killed no one was raped
53:11
no one was any of that it was either a
53:13
drug crop most of them are are drug
53:15
crimes some are
53:19
like like lying to the government or
53:22
like a you know like right like tax
53:23
evasion and stuff like that
53:24
but no one was actually hurt by any of
53:26
these things right and that’s you know
53:29
and if nobody was hurt then why I mean
53:31
first of all we’re not doing
53:33
rehabilitation anymore we’re just doing
53:34
punishment yeah and then yeah why aren’t
53:37
we doing restitution instead why are we
53:39
paying for these people to be in prison
53:44
because they sold drugs okay well first
53:49
of all the drugs shouldn’t have been
53:50
illegal to begin with that should’ve
53:52
been a crime yeah and then even if you
53:55
want to say okay it’s a crime well why
53:59
are we
53:59
you know why are we then okay you
54:01
committed a crime really you know what
54:03
the government’s real problem with that
54:04
is the root government’s problem with
54:05
that is they didn’t pay taxes on they
54:06
didn’t make any money on but they didn’t
54:08
make any money off of it yeah yeah
54:10
that’s I was actually just arguing with
54:12
my City Council the other day because
54:13
there yeah the Illinois recently is
54:15
legal er it hasn’t quite gone through
54:17
yet but the law is passed takes effect
54:19
January 1st of League marijuana
54:23
legalization in the state and I was in
54:27
the state and our city is going oh we’re
54:30
going to opt out we’re not gonna allow
54:31
anybody to sell it here and you know or
54:34
not the process of here or anything like
54:35
that well first of all living a grigora
54:36
City that doesn’t make any sense
54:38
right but the biggest thing I looked at
54:40
them and I said our population in this
54:44
city is largely african-american and the
54:46
war on drugs was based it and the Nixon
54:50
administration has now come out and
54:52
admitted that you did this yeah they
54:54
started the war on drugs to control
54:56
blacks and war protesters yep and anyway
55:03
so via so they so they’ve started this
55:06
for no real reason than to control
55:08
people and you’re gonna still want to
55:12
continue to put people in jail for it
55:13
was fight cite them for it and you know
55:15
you know I actually asked to City
55:17
Council I was like is that really the
55:18
policies you want to maintain ya know
55:21
exactly I and by the way what folks what
55:24
he’s talkin about what John’s talking
55:25
about there’s videos about this like
55:28
this isn’t you know a conspiracy theory
55:29
it is wide out in the open Nixon
55:32
officials and emissions even before that
55:35
in the 1930s and and 40s when they would
55:37
when they actually labeled it marijuana
55:39
they used the Spanish word for it
55:42
instead of cannabis which is what it was
55:43
referred to or you of reefer was like
55:45
the code the popular term for it
55:47
but they would call it marijuana and
55:49
they specifically called it marijuana
55:51
because it sounded foreign it sounded
55:54
like this dangerous thing and they would
55:55
per day would talk about you know that
55:57
that you know they would they would you
56:00
know reefer madness and they would they
56:01
had all this propaganda and it was all
56:04
to criminalized behavior that they
56:07
perceived as being done mostly by
56:08
minorities and I asked this with gun
56:11
control drug control any of this stuff
56:13
I will tell people about the fact that
56:16
historically laws especially control
56:19
laws are usually past to control
56:22
minority groups and underprivileged
56:24
groups like the like you know people
56:25
have low income and things like that and
56:27
they are disproportionately all the time
56:28
and they are disproportionately enforced
56:30
against those groups so then I I like I
56:34
like using this with gun control people
56:35
I will point out that the first gun
56:37
control laws were passed to prevent
56:39
freed slaves from owning weapons and
56:42
that you know the vast majority of
56:44
people that are in prison on gun charges
56:45
are actually even if he goes back
56:48
earlier than that the first gun control
56:49
laws were prevent it were to prevent
56:51
Native Americans from getting firearms
56:53
yeah and that as well and and then it
56:56
goes back further than that if you build
56:57
before guns with crossbows and you know
57:02
and there was you know different
57:04
countries did with limits on crossbows
57:05
to keep their Knights from getting shot
57:07
by crossbows right the the Chinese had
57:10
strict limits on gunpowder usage you
57:13
know I mean all throughout history it’s
57:14
all been to let the government control
57:17
the people
57:18
yeah and had nothing to do with safety
57:19
duh I found out riverdancing where they
57:21
were they danced with just their legs it
57:23
came about because there was some kind
57:25
of British law against dancing with your
57:27
arms because it could be used as like a
57:30
martial arts training or something like
57:31
that and so in protests they came up
57:34
with Riverdance where they just dance
57:35
really furiously with their legs
57:37
I didn’t verify if that’s true but I
57:39
believe that that’s the case but so I’ll
57:41
ask these gun control advocates I’ll say
57:43
how many more people of color do you
57:45
want Donald Trump to put
57:46
cages until you feel sufficiently safe
57:49
like what is the number how many more
57:51
black people need to be in prison black
57:53
people is panic people Native Americans
57:55
people of just poorer people that are
57:58
white as well like how many marginalized
58:01
people need to be in cages at the hands
58:03
of Donald Trump of all people before you
58:05
feel safe that you feel like you can go
58:07
outside well I’d like to ask him ok so
58:10
you’ve said that Donald Trump is little
58:12
Reid Hitler but you want Hitler to have
58:15
be the only one to have the guns
58:16
we must did we not learn something back
58:19
in the 40s and 30s did we not learn to
58:22
anything at all we must surrender our
58:25
firearms to the fascist that I want to
58:28
hashtag resist against with my you know
58:30
bare hands hey but hey people do more
58:34
people are killed with bare hands and
58:36
feet than with them with rifles so maybe
58:38
they have something yeah it’s like it’s
58:41
like less than 3% of murders are
58:43
committed by any kind of rifle much less
58:45
they know you would separate out assault
58:48
rifles because they can’t well that’s a
58:50
whole yeah I mean so one of the easiest
58:53
ways I can find if someone is has no
58:56
idea what they’re talking about with
58:57
guns is when they’ll say I want to ban
58:58
semi-automatic weapons and I’ll say so
59:02
basically anything that you can just
59:05
pull the trigger and you know and a
59:08
round boat and it fires yeah like any
59:11
any any any throw Lake anything that
59:13
isn’t like I mean even some revolvers
59:15
are technically semi-automatic because a
59:17
revolver is technically a semi-automatic
59:19
weapon
59:19
alright a lever-action a bolt-action is
59:22
not a pump shotgun it’s not and
59:24
obviously muskets and single shots or
59:26
not but right you know anything did you
59:28
pull the trigger once and you don’t have
59:30
to manually then do something else to
59:32
put another Rab in the chamber and so
59:34
that is a large percentage right yeah no
59:38
I I it’s it’s crazy the misinformation
59:41
that’s out there but so you you alluded
59:44
to it before guys for those who don’t
59:46
know John and I are going to be featured
59:49
in the upcoming libertarian dadbod
59:51
calendar John is over there on the left
59:54
he’s going to be mr. January and I’m
59:56
going to be mr. April mr. Rory a couple
60:00
sexy biatches we are that is hot okay I
60:04
may just leave that up for the rest of
60:06
the program just because I know how much
60:08
higher are our traffic will be from that
60:09
the proceeds from these calendars will
60:12
be going to help the Libertarian Party
60:13
and you can purchase your specifically
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the money’s not going to the party the
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money’s going to candidates also there
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are because there are some people out
60:24
there who object to the Libertarian
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Party getting money right now for
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various reasons okay so those people
60:32
should not feel like they have to not
60:33
buy the calendar because they can still
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buy the calendar and not give mr. Starr
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work money or mr. Smith money whoever
60:42
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60:44
okay fair enough so you and you can
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purchase your yours today by going to
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60:52
America need our sexy bodies hanging
60:54
from their refrigerators because we
60:57
embody freedom like that I like that
61:01
vermin supreme had a much more raunchy
61:02
answer and I appreciate yours
61:04
it’s much more family-friendly but yeah
61:07
I know that is so so your January I’m
61:10
February we’ve got Tom Arnold Liberty
61:13
clauses December December
61:15
Nick’s RoR cos is November and he he was
61:18
Bracey
61:18
he was pretty racy we’ve got Johnny
61:21
rocket oh and let’s not forget that
61:25
they’re talking about taking some of the
61:27
shots they didn’t use and doing some
61:30
one-off posters and cards and things so
61:34
there’s gonna be like if you don’t like
61:35
that picture of me there me if there’s
61:37
enough demand there’s another picture of
61:39
me next to a 55 Chevy that looks pretty
61:41
good
61:41
oh well that’s good yeah I gave them
61:43
like many pictures they have a lot of
61:48
basically my whole photo shoot because I
61:50
was out the beach with my wife for like
61:52
three hours just she’s just punishing me
61:55
out in the water
61:56
but uh because I I don’t like having my
61:59
picture taken and this was her moment to
62:01
like do everything to me that she ever
62:03
could plus I’m in the water so it’s a
62:06
fun time had by her but yeah because
62:10
libertarian dad bought calm
62:12
to check that out John you’ve been
62:16
absolutely amazing I have just so I have
62:20
some follower questions before we go to
62:22
final my fellow Americans I got four
62:24
questions for you I had a few different
62:26
ones but actually some of these are kind
62:28
of combined I sort of combined some of
62:30
these questions so I distilled it down
62:32
if you will I curated your questions
62:34
these are bespoke questions for John
62:37
Phillips jr. the first one and we kind
62:39
of touched on this you may have already
62:41
sort of answered this but you can delve
62:42
into it a little bit more what would the
62:44
first hundred days of a rough Philips
62:46
administration look like well first
62:49
under days when we talked about the
62:51
first three things so there that’s that
62:53
these then we start talking about
62:56
putting out some tax plans Kim and I go
62:59
back and forth about that you know
63:01
obviously we would all love to
63:04
completely cut out taxes because
63:06
taxation is theft but but we also you
63:09
know in a real world that’s not going to
63:11
happen especially not the first hundred
63:13
days of a brain really the but you know
63:18
I have an end goal of having all federal
63:22
fees and taxes all lumped into one so
63:25
that everybody can see there’s no hidden
63:27
stuff yeah they’re like no gas tax that
63:29
you pay at the pump none of that and
63:32
then and then making it a flat rate the
63:35
and it could be a use tax it could be a
63:40
an income tax you know pick one there’s
63:43
different arguments for both right not
63:46
the I’m not married to one but get rid
63:50
of all this you know all these hidden
63:51
things that we don’t even know we’re
63:53
paying for right I think and man when we
63:59
bring those troops home obviously then
64:00
we use that money savings which I mean
64:03
even just bombs alone you know bombing
64:05
in the Middle East was what six trillion
64:07
dollars yeah yeah yeah the federal
64:10
budget you know here’s here’s a little
64:11
for a put in perspective for people that
64:13
they don’t think about six trillion
64:14
dollars just on bonds in the least
64:16
nothing else just on bonds yeah our
64:18
federal deficit right now is twenty
64:20
three trillion dollars right so over one
64:25
quarter
64:26
of our deficit is bombs you know so you
64:34
know so they’re so that’s a big part of
64:36
our first an you know to take care of
64:39
those things yeah there’d be a lot of
64:41
time spent you know because we say
64:44
pardon all nonviolent offenders but
64:45
people don’t realize that’s actually a
64:47
complicated process
64:48
yeah the you know you don’t just go oh
64:51
okay I’m gonna harden Jim Bob and Harry
64:54
you’ve actually you’ve got to do some
64:56
paperwork there’s yeah and it’s millions
64:59
of them – yeah yeah right and then so
65:02
yeah that would be a long process
65:04
obviously there’d be some big names
65:06
first I mean we’d welcome Snowden home
65:08
with open arms yeah some things like
65:10
that
65:12
we’ve work on there’d be like there’d be
65:14
a whole bunch of hey we can’t do this
65:17
anymore
65:18
not extending executive authority but
65:21
okay you’ve already gone way over what
65:24
executive authority is supposed to be we
65:26
can’t do that anymore we can’t you know
65:28
alright we’re gonna stop that spying
65:30
crap stop this you know some of that you
65:34
don’t have to go through Congress but
65:35
there are things that we can do that you
65:39
know like I said talk to the DEA talk to
65:41
the you know you could turn around and
65:44
tell the Attorney General okay we’re
65:46
gonna freeze any prosecution of these
65:48
offenses that that’d be the whole you
65:52
know and then we go Tim wants to start
65:54
with a forensic audit of the attorney
65:58
general’s office I don’t necessarily
66:00
object to that because obviously there
66:02
you know there’s civil asset forfeiture
66:04
right there
66:05
that’d be first that’d be right there
66:06
but that is an order that we could get
66:09
to end all residence and forfeiture yeah
66:12
the president could turn the ax to tell
66:14
the Attorney General you will cease the
66:16
activity called civil action forfeiture
66:19
you will cease that because what people
66:22
don’t realize yeah I mean you know a lot
66:23
of the local governments are getting the
66:25
blame but they only get to do that
66:26
because they’re working with the federal
66:28
government so as soon as we Yankel
66:31
authority on that boom that process ends
66:33
and that is an order that they’ve said
66:35
the president could get so all right
66:38
that’s a lot of things that’s a
66:40
yeah I was gonna say that’s an that’s an
66:41
aggressive three or four months that you
66:43
could do another thing you can do with
66:44
civil asset forfeiture because you can’t
66:46
buy executive Fiat ban it at the state
66:49
and local level what you can’t say is
66:50
the you know Department of Justice won’t
66:53
cooperate with a state or look you know
66:56
any municipality that does engage in
66:58
civil asset forfeiture so that my
67:02
understanding of civil asset forfeiture
67:03
is that all those local agencies that do
67:06
it actually do it are doing it in
67:08
cooperation with the Federals okay they
67:11
don’t have the authority to do it
67:13
without that oh okay well then so you
67:16
know I could be Miss concur echt on that
67:18
but that was my reading of it and if we
67:21
did so if we told the Justice Department
67:24
to stop that pretty much done yeah yeah
67:28
yeah yeah that would definitely that’d
67:31
be a great three or four months of a
67:34
rough Phillips administration here’s
67:36
another question that was many questions
67:38
merged together Wow four or five anyway
67:41
um that said what are your goals
67:44
basically what are your goals I didn’t
67:46
write this very well I merged it and
67:49
didn’t write it well what are your what
67:52
is your priority of goals in this in
67:56
terms of a percentage of your of your
67:58
campaign between actually trying to run
68:01
to win the presidency and running to
68:04
spread a message and use earned media as
68:06
a political campaign to try to spread
68:08
libertarianism that’s a tough question
68:11
because they’re they’re really
68:13
intertwined okay the as we’re spreading
68:16
the message obviously we’re hoping that
68:18
that helps us win via America I was
68:22
actually watching another podcast last
68:23
night and was laughing at at another
68:26
certain candidate who shall remain
68:27
nameless who has come over from the
68:29
Republican Party who is he has picked up
68:32
our talking point of focusing on down
68:34
ticket candidates right we started with
68:37
that last year
68:38
and so a lot of our focus will be on
68:41
down ticket candidates and we’re hoping
68:43
that that’s basically a twofer
68:44
is that we get some coverage out of it
68:47
they get some coverage out of it and
68:48
that and that it works that way and so
68:51
it’s hard to set up
68:53
percentage like that because the the
68:57
message is very important and the
68:59
message is what people need to hear and
69:01
the message we believe is also what
69:03
should get a libertarian administration
69:06
elected and a libertarian count City
69:09
Council member or county board member or
69:11
mayor and so I plan on spending a lot of
69:15
time traveling around to more local
69:18
events because let’s be real it’s gonna
69:21
be a fight to get on the Today Show
69:23
right but if we can go and go to Decatur
69:28
Illinois and get the local station WCIA
69:33
which is not actually the local station
69:35
but they’re the ones that actually cover
69:37
stuff to cover our event here then
69:41
that’s our then we’ve got that coverage
69:43
here right and we go to Denver and get a
69:45
local station in Denver to cover it more
69:48
people watch those local news stations
69:49
than anything else anyway that’s eight
69:53
there is a subset of people that are
69:55
glued to Fox News and CNN and people
69:58
like that most normal people if they’re
70:00
getting news it’s at the end of the
70:01
night or the early morning before they
70:03
go to work or you know after they eat or
70:05
whatever or late at night from their
70:07
local which which pipes in from national
70:09
as well but I mean they’re getting it
70:11
from local sources and I think a kim
70:14
ruff john phillips campaign saying bold
70:17
stuff if for no other reason than to try
70:20
to bring you on to you know say how dare
70:23
you think stuff like that could get you
70:24
that state national attention as well so
70:27
i could actually see that happening we
70:29
have a comment from Fotini henderson who
70:31
said do you guys know that deficit is a
70:33
meaningless trope to status that i know
70:35
all the money is already available just
70:38
have to appropriate it for
70:39
redistribution how dare you say it’s
70:41
yours that is a obviously there’s a lot
70:44
of education issues that people don’t
70:47
realize what the deficit is what it
70:49
actually means the fact that 23 and
70:52
counting trillion dollars has been run
70:56
up in your name your kids name your
70:59
grandkids big damn quick let me i I made
71:01
an error earlier and I’ve got an every
71:03
in the media and everybody has bad habit
71:06
to do
71:07
this I got is deficit instead of debt oh
71:10
I did you know yeah and yes so we’ve got
71:14
we’ve got 23 billion trillion dollars in
71:16
debt yeah so one quarter of our debt is
71:20
Unbounce but yeah and everybody uses
71:23
those terms so interchangeably but they
71:24
are not really the same thing
71:26
so yeah and and I didn’t pick up on that
71:29
so I’m and I said it too so I’m but so
71:31
yeah so deficit is the amount that is
71:33
added to the debt basically every year
71:35
the debt is the total amount so when
71:37
you’ll hear a politician say I cut the
71:39
deficit by 20% what they’re saying is we
71:42
ran up 20 percent less new debt this
71:45
year than we did last year but there’s
71:47
still more debt doesn’t mean that the
71:49
debt is less so date but thank you
71:51
because I didn’t catch that either
71:53
here’s a question that was emerging of
71:57
about eight different question how do
71:59
libertarians fight this impulse within
72:01
the party to beg so-called respectable
72:03
usually Republicans but respectable
72:06
establishment candidates to run in the
72:08
Libertarian Party well let’s talk about
72:11
yeah because most of that is based on
72:14
two things name recognition in month
72:17
okay I made the two go hand-in-hand and
72:20
what I like to remind people is to a
72:21
certain degree name recognition is what
72:24
we make it the you know if like for
72:30
instance I’m constantly on the National
72:32
Party right now that we’re not promoting
72:33
our current candidates even if I even if
72:35
we left me out of it via Democrats and
72:38
Republicans are promoting you know their
72:41
candidates two years before the election
72:43
right we’re not but and we see all these
72:47
people going oh we’re not getting behind
72:49
a candidate now well that’s why we lose
72:52
because Democrats or Republicans people
72:56
have been people got behind Kamala
72:58
Harris eight months ago told snob or
73:01
Sanders or anything yeah right so so yep
73:03
and so we’ve got that issue but the
73:06
other issue is is that you know they
73:08
they’re so stuck on this name
73:10
recognition what they don’t remember is
73:12
that most these people didn’t have name
73:14
recognition one way or the other until
73:17
all of a sudden they did and how did
73:19
they get it
73:20
they got it by people talking about that
73:22
so we’ve got I think last count
73:26
approximately 14,000 national members
73:29
and then every state has a bunch of
73:31
state members that are not national
73:33
members and I mean a bunch the the vast
73:36
majority of state members are not
73:38
national members actually okay every
73:41
single one of those people went out and
73:43
started talking about our candidates now
73:48
that’s how you get name recognition I
73:50
went to go here’s a couple stories for
73:52
you uh Obama I am from Illinois yeah I
73:58
live in Illinois I didn’t have a
74:01
freaking clue who Obama was until he
74:05
started running for president when I
74:06
live here yeah we went and you know the
74:12
big name that everybody trying to
74:13
recruit right now is Justin Amash and I
74:15
love Justin Justin Amash do not get me
74:17
wrong this is not a criticism of him at
74:18
all except oh he’s got my name
74:21
recognition okay I went and did an
74:25
individual poll calling people I know in
74:28
different states that I know are
74:29
conservatives and say hey what do you
74:31
think about Justin Amash who who the
74:36
people in Michigan knew who he was
74:38
a couple people a bunch of people in
74:40
Libertarian Party knew who he was most
74:43
Republicans were going I don’t know who
74:45
the hell you’re talking about dude oh is
74:47
that that guy that was talking crap
74:48
about Trump oh yeah right it’s kind of a
74:50
dick but but that you know everybody’s
74:52
talking about crap about Trump so we
74:53
just kind of he just tuned him out right
74:56
the but name recognition happens because
75:00
people start talking if you want name
75:02
recognition start talking now get behind
75:05
a candidate now if you don’t like one of
75:07
the current candidates start your own
75:10
committee to recruit one that you do
75:11
like I mean some of the Justin Amash
75:14
people have tried that you know and
75:15
they’re working on that and hey if they
75:17
get success you know I have a different
75:20
strategy if we got him to come over in
75:21
mind that we don’t need to go into that
75:23
right now
75:23
right but the but actually start talking
75:26
get out there and do it get out and you
75:29
know that’s how we get American you
75:31
should start if every libertarian in the
75:33
country
75:33
wrote a letter to their editor talking
75:35
about about different their favorite
75:38
Libertarian candidate yeah their
75:39
favorite libertarian candidates and you
75:43
know and one tenth of those got
75:45
published we would be in papers all over
75:47
the country you know that’s that’s so
75:49
this is something I’ve only briefly
75:51
thought about and touched on so we have
75:54
a show on tuesdays matt right and i
75:57
called the money waters of freedom and
75:58
that’s sort of a topical show where we
76:00
talk about the week’s events and the
76:02
vast majority of the time we’re talking
76:04
about what either a Republican or a
76:06
Democrat said or did and then applying
76:09
libertarian ideology to why that was bad
76:11
usually that’s it’s usually the format
76:14
of the show of is us talking about stuff
76:15
and then explaining you know the
76:17
libertarian argument behind that very
76:19
rarely are we actually talking about
76:21
libertarians and what they’ve done it
76:25
happens but I’d say probably maybe
76:27
fifteen percent of our talking is about
76:29
what a libertarian said or done and
76:31
that’s much higher than like you know
76:33
the average podcast or show it’s
76:37
certainly on on news it’s it’s you know
76:39
less than one bit right basically my
76:42
suggestion it take it and take her to
76:44
leave it yeah is use both talked about
76:49
those Democrats and Republicans and then
76:51
set you know call you know say hey we’re
76:54
good you know call it Kim call it me
76:55
call up Arvind call up Adam say hey this
76:59
week we’re gonna be talking about this
77:01
thing that this Democrat did what’s your
77:04
take on it and get a statement that’s an
77:08
idea and then you can say okay hey we’re
77:10
talking about what the Democrat did and
77:11
here’s what the libertarian says instead
77:13
oh we talked about this Republican you
77:15
know and just you’ve intertwine it so
77:17
that you’re not running because if you
77:19
start talking about libertarians too
77:20
much the people who only like Democrats
77:22
or Republicans are going to start to
77:23
yeah right right right they start if you
77:26
if you start intertwining it and talking
77:29
about these things then all of a sudden
77:30
people more people are hearing that’s an
77:34
excellent point we’ve actually gotten
77:35
stuff from Dan Berman he’s actually made
77:36
videos and and he’s written a couple
77:38
things as well that we’ve that we’ve had
77:40
featured that’s actually an excellent I
77:42
I’m I’m gonna steal your idea that
77:44
you’ve well I guess you gave it to me so
77:45
I’m not gonna steal it but uh
77:47
actually reach out for for reactions
77:50
especially on national level stuff
77:52
because or even on local level stuff
77:54
because yes I mean ninety-nine point
77:57
whatever percent of elected officials
77:59
and and officials in general or
78:00
Republicans or Democrats so you have to
78:02
cover that if you’re covering current
78:04
events you have to cover but that’s an
78:05
excellent opportunity to get Libertarian
78:07
Party people in just libertarians and
78:09
anarchists and whoever in general get
78:10
their reactions to it so that you can
78:12
actually include not just the idea the
78:15
philosophy and the ideology behind it
78:17
but the actual individual people so that
78:19
can drive the cop that’s a great I’m
78:20
gonna start doing that thank you John um
78:21
so here is the next acquit question
78:24
besides the first and second amendments
78:28
what would you say is the most important
78:29
amendment after those I know I this is
78:35
my only gotcha question for you this is
78:38
I mean it’s not really a god to question
78:40
I mean it’s a priority question they’re
78:42
all important I mean I’m really a big
78:44
fan of the Fourth and Fifth Amendment’s
78:46
yeah but really I have to say that if
78:48
you’re gonna pick the most important one
78:50
after those two it’s the tenth yeah
78:53
that’s what I was gonna I was wondering
78:55
if you were gonna go there yeah so the
78:57
tenth amendment for those who don’t know
78:58
is the basically says that anything that
79:00
isn’t specifically given as it delegated
79:04
as a power to the federal government in
79:06
the Constitution is left to the states
79:09
or to the people basically meaning if
79:11
the feds haven’t been told specifically
79:13
in this document that they should be
79:14
doing it then it will be left either to
79:16
the states or to just people individuals
79:19
for to do themselves that is a woefully
79:22
over overlooked amendment obviously but
79:26
it’s yeah they they don’t just over look
79:28
at they they stay oh it’s like the
79:30
cartoons with the guy peeing on it you
79:33
know put that on the back you all the
79:35
Democrats the Republicans should put
79:36
that in the back of their car with their
79:38
guys sitting there peeing on the Tenth
79:39
Amendment because that’s what they’ve
79:40
done that’s a good boy that’s a good
79:42
point
79:43
I so I mean it started with let’s start
79:47
with many things but basically as soon
79:49
as the courts and Congress figured out
79:52
that they could just construe the word
79:54
commerce to mean anything they want
79:57
they’ve just used that use that as a no
79:59
all the Commerce Clause allows us to
80:01
tell you to do whatever’s won the
80:04
Commerce won and to promote the general
80:06
welfare yeah that’s the other one yeah
80:09
the reason that it’s actually called
80:11
welfare in the u.s. is because they were
80:15
alluding to the mention of welfare the
80:17
general welfare in the in the
80:20
Constitution but that didn’t the general
80:22
welfare didn’t mean robbing everyone and
80:24
giving some of it back to them if they
80:26
absent amendment specifically says if
80:28
it’s not specifically given to you
80:30
not if it’s alluded to right right right
80:33
yeah and so they started seizing all
80:35
these things that maybe maybe maybe
80:38
there’s an illusion to which there isn’t
80:40
even really that but you’re still didn’t
80:42
you didn’t specifically get that power
80:44
so you shouldn’t be doing it right
80:45
exactly exactly so if you this kind of
80:49
alludes back to the the thing about you
80:51
know finding respectable big-name
80:53
Republicans if you get the libertarian
80:55
nomination for Vice President will you
80:57
endorse Hillary Clinton somebody
81:04
obviously isn’t following my Twitter if
81:07
you would like to follow my Twitter it
81:09
is mildly amusing it’s at a GE TT IL
81:13
that’s my individual Twitter and that’s
81:16
a that’s an old gamertag but the yes I
81:21
constantly go after Hillary Clinton and
81:23
I’ve started recently occasionally using
81:25
the hashtag don’t suicide oh that’s
81:29
right yeah oh yeah yeah so I know I will
81:33
not endorse Hillary Clinton
81:35
I will not endorse bill weld I will not
81:38
say that I am voting for him and in a
81:40
primary election I will not do any of
81:44
those things I I will never understand
81:49
what Gary Johnson was thinking like
81:51
there was momentum behind either Austin
81:54
Peterson or Larry sharp to be the vice
81:57
presidential nominee and I guess he was
82:02
he it was like a friend of his or
82:03
something like I mean he came out it you
82:05
know they were feeling well they were
82:06
they were friends and they and they and
82:08
they’d known of each other for a long
82:09
time and they had similar backgrounds
82:10
the previous Republicans
82:14
both to term governors all that kind of
82:16
stuff I mean that yeah they had some
82:17
stuff in common I I am NOT a bill weld
82:23
hater okay but I think that bill weld
82:26
should have spent quite a bit more time
82:28
than the party before he became that
82:30
high on the list simply because he he
82:35
obviously doesn’t get a few things yeah
82:38
it was it felt like he was using it as a
82:42
sort of protest position to advocate
82:46
against Donald Trump which okay great
82:48
that’s what you’re doing because you’re
82:50
running for vice president as in another
82:53
party but to go as far as to say well
82:56
yeah if you don’t like us you should
82:58
look at Hillary Clinton anyone hate her
83:04
but that just seemed like he took the
83:07
blood sweat tears and money of a lot of
83:09
really dedicated people and said you
83:11
know screw you I’m just ya know I was
83:17
not okay with that that was my wife will
83:19
tell you about the times that I stood up
83:21
and screamed at the TV for one little
83:24
thing or another it was that there was a
83:26
time when they was on Stassi when they
83:29
asked when they brought out the gotcha
83:30
lady about the the kid who had died of a
83:34
heroin overdose and he didn’t stand he
83:36
didn’t stand firm and said hey I’m sorry
83:38
that happened that happened because of
83:41
the black market right it would have
83:44
been at your simple answer and and
83:46
addressed her concerns and shown that we
83:50
do care and yes this is why we want to
83:52
fix your problem we do care about that
83:54
problem this is how you solve that
83:56
problem and we can prove it and because
83:59
we can look at historical data and we
84:01
can look at Portugal and so we can prove
84:03
that this will greatly reduce the
84:04
likelihood of people like your son dying
84:06
of an overdose and the and he totally
84:12
dropped the ball on that one that was
84:14
staying or screaming at the TV yeah a
84:16
couple things like that
84:17
you know I mean you know the funny thing
84:19
is just the ones that he was famous for
84:20
weren’t even that big a deal except that
84:22
they got edited and cut and blown ladder
84:24
like a leper right oh one Lepidus
84:27
stupid thing ten seconds he had
84:29
ten-second brain fart because you know I
84:32
mean let’s be real first of all it was a
84:34
big change in conversation it’s like if
84:36
you turned around and asked me about
84:38
Princess Bride right now right but not
84:41
actually but not mentioning the Princess
84:44
Bride mentioning like whatever Andre the
84:47
Giant’s character was just using his
84:48
name like well what do you think about
84:49
what you know I know I feel bad but I
84:52
love the princess
84:53
what’s that physic magic what you know
84:56
what about when Fezzik you know was you
84:58
know what what do you think about what
84:59
he did and it’s like huh oh my god you
85:03
don’t know Fezzik is like I mean that
85:05
that’s or he doesn’t even know what the
85:07
Princess Bride it like that’s that whole
85:08
thing and then and then you a lot of
85:12
people don’t realize is there’s a lot of
85:14
things they like I don’t like to watch
85:16
the news I like to read the news and so
85:19
there’s a lot of times where I will hear
85:22
a word spoken that I’ve never heard
85:24
spoken before I’ve only read and in my
85:27
reading because it’s a foreign word I
85:29
will pronounce it differently in my head
85:32
then they do when they speak it and so I
85:36
don’t process it right away oh yeah and
85:40
then on top of that ten seconds later he
85:43
gave an outstanding response which no
85:46
one covered no one no one cover in that
85:49
part right no no because they wanted
85:51
they wanted to make him look bad
85:52
that was yep he was starting to build
85:55
some momentum he was starting to come up
85:57
in the polls oh well we can’t have this
86:01
let’s find something to hammer him on
86:04
and you know and I don’t it’d be to be
86:05
fair I don’t think the TV host did it
86:07
intentionally he even came out and
86:09
apologized afterwards I’m not trying to
86:11
blame him
86:12
yeah I’m trying to blame the media that
86:13
picked up on it afterwards yeah well I
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mean what were the two things people
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remember he didn’t know what a leper was
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and Bill well told everyone to vote for
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Hillary basically like that list you
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know and so the narrative was Gary
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Johnson such a moron that his own vice
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president doesn’t want you to vote for
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him so vote for Hillary which clearly
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pert worked gangbusters guys by the way
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there’s a correction in the in the
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comments
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Keith’s salient Salinger I hope I’m
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saying your name correctly Keith he says
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not to nitpick but why does it say VP
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nominee
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no-one’s been nominated yet unless I
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miss something that is my I’m sorry
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Keith he is running for the John is
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running for the vice presidential
86:50
nomination so that is waiting night
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yeah we don’t said nominee yeah yeah no
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yeah no that wasn’t anything he told me
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to put her whatever I put that on it and
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the you know that’s something I do right
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before I go live as I add the title and
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name so I apologize that is definitely
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my fault Kerry Bittner says I appreciate
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that you won’t endorse someone else
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while running that’s good so thank you
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for that so we have one one last
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question I think and then we will go to
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my final my fellow Americans so is there
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any part of government that you think is
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necessary and couldn’t be provided by
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the free market and this is the long
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term long term I’m trying to think of
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one
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no can be your answer if you don’t think
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no I don’t think there is I think there
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are I mean you know for a very long term
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I think that some would currently be
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better but even then I question my even
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my own judgment on that simply because
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it’s like okay well they’re only be
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better as long as we treat them straight
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cliff strictly limited like judiciary
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right okay I you know do I really want
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to have private judges at least
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short-term right that would be tight you
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know maybe lay down in the distant
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future but but even you know I mean
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there are instances of private police
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forces you I mean you got to be careful
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with it but it does work around private
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fire departments work obviously private
88:30
roads work all the time because we have
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all kinds of them all over the place
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right right so you know judiciary and
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I’m not a huge fan of prisons for profit
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but honestly part of that’s if I there
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would be a lot less people going to
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prison under my watch
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so exactly in a true free market you’re
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not gonna see that many people in prison
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because it’s not profitable like it’s
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only profitable if you have a coercive
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thieving entity
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robbing everyone to pay for it in a in a
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market system people aren’t gonna want
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to have to pay that kind of money to
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imprison people unless it’s absolutely
89:04
absolute dangers to what you know
89:07
they’re murderers they’re rapists or
89:09
whatever you know then maybe then and I
89:10
think even there a lot of people are
89:12
gonna say maybe not with murderers
89:13
and-and-and the worst most unrepentant
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rapists but for a lot of even violent
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offenders that it would be better
89:19
long-term and less costly to try to
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rehabilitate them so no III but I I
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agree with you on that so here is my
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fellow my final my fellow Americans
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basically what final my fellow Americans
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is is that I I give you 30 seconds which
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usually is not nearly long enough time
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to answer but ultimately I you can take
89:44
as long as you want but I try to create
89:45
the feeling of urgency by giving you 30
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seconds and I’m gonna ask you a series
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of questions what your question is gonna
89:52
be is I’m going to name a department and
89:59
you can tell me if well a lot of these
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you’d probably eliminate but assuming
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that you can’t eliminate them who would
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be your ideal person to be in heading
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that department and you can pick fellow
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libertarians you can pick people that
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you think would do a terrible job so
90:17
that you know that you know no one would
90:19
want it however you want to do it so let
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me know when you’re ready and I will I
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will start Oh put me on the spot here
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okay go ahead this is like the least
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serious part so don’t feel bad so okay
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30 seconds on the clock good luck
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Department of Justice
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but Napolitano that’s a good one
90:40
Department of Agriculture oh that’s a
90:44
Cheech and Chong Department of Commerce
90:51
Hubb little gates I like that Department
90:56
of Homeland Security I’d eliminate that
91:00
Joker uh let’s uh
91:02
Bozo the Clown I like that we’ve got two
91:07
more here Department of Defense I I’ve
91:13
long said I would put Larry sharp there
91:16
okay and then Department of
91:19
Transportation that’s a good question
91:23
you don’t musk these are good I
91:27
especially like the Cheech and Chong one
91:29
but these were all good and the only
91:31
reason you didn’t get it in 30 seconds
91:33
was because I kept laughing so I thought
91:35
I was laughing too so those all right
91:37
well well you nailed that and that was
91:41
great so John thank you again for coming
91:44
on thank you for your patience and us
91:46
having to constantly reschedule this I
91:48
hope that you feel like it paid off as
91:50
well as I feel like it did I think this
91:52
was great I’m really glad that you came
91:53
on I think I think was good good time
91:55
talking to you and you know I can’t
91:57
really hold you accountable for
91:59
Hurricane delays
92:00
I appreciate that hurricane delays and I
92:02
think there was one time it was you and
92:03
then there were a couple times so I
92:04
appreciate it I hope to have you on
92:07
again in the in the future are you gonna
92:08
be in a Florence for the debate in
92:11
November yeah yeah okay perfect so
92:15
you’ll meet me there I will be I will be
92:18
there Matt right and I hear let me plug
92:20
something real quick Matt right and I on
92:22
November 2nd we’ll be doing the official
92:25
commentary for the South Carolina
92:27
Libertarian Party debate I if I were
92:30
smart I’d have some graphic that I put
92:32
up right now but I don’t you would I
92:33
would yes well yeah well while we’re
92:36
plugging things you can of course donate
92:38
to ruff Phillips at ruff Phillips 2020
92:40
dot-com but I also have my own websites
92:43
john phillips for liberty dot-com
92:45
spelled out and you can donate to my
92:48
vice presidential campaign there
92:50
directly because because we have to
92:52
campaign technically separately we have
92:55
two different committees Oh see I didn’t
92:58
even think of that so okay I’m actually
92:59
gonna give you a chance right now to
93:00
give your final thoughts and you can
93:02
plug anything else you want to so I give
93:04
you as much time as you
93:05
anything that you feel like we didn’t
93:07
get to cover anything additionally that
93:08
you want to plug anything you want to
93:10
say you have as much time as you want
93:11
John Phillips jr. the floor is yours
93:15
give me as much time as I want that’s it
93:18
but I’m gonna I’m gonna go there’s an
93:20
app actually and I’m just gonna leave
93:21
there’s actually one thing that I want
93:23
to talk about because it’s very big on
93:25
the social media right now okay and it’s
93:27
been going on for a while it is a slew
93:31
of people I don’t like this person so
93:35
I’m leaving the National Party I’m not
93:37
giving any more money at the National
93:39
Party I don’t like this group of people
93:41
I don’t like that I would ask you to
93:44
reconsider anybody who’s thinking about
93:47
doing that I would ask you to reconsider
93:49
you can give your money directly to a
93:52
specific cause like say ballot access or
93:55
right candidate supports things like
93:59
that so you’re not giving it to support
94:00
a person that you don’t like but I also
94:04
would say that okay you think this
94:07
person’s crazy this person is a clown
94:09
this person shouldn’t be representing
94:11
the party so why would you then let them
94:15
represent the party instead of stepping
94:17
up and showing how they’re not the only
94:20
people that the party represents right
94:22
right stand up show that you know you
94:26
don’t like the audacious caucus stand up
94:29
and show that there are professional
94:30
people you don’t like the pragmatic
94:34
caucus stand up and show that there’s
94:35
radical people you don’t like the
94:36
radical people stand up and show that
94:38
there’s pragmatic people show that we’re
94:41
a big tent show that we can embrace all
94:44
these views and we can disagree but we
94:45
can still work in the same cause and we
94:47
can still work together stop bailing out
94:51
just because this guy in Philadelphia
94:55
said some nasty things okay whether you
94:58
agree with him or not why would you
95:00
abandon thousands of people because of
95:03
what one guy did right join the National
95:07
Party make some donations donate to
95:09
specific things if you have to right if
95:12
there’s not a cause that you want to
95:15
donate to on the list sending me an
95:17
email we’ll see if we can start a fund
95:19
for
95:19
and then you can donate it directly
95:21
donate to your candidates don’t walk
95:23
away from your candidates if you don’t
95:24
want to donate to me pick another one
95:26
pick a local one stop walking away from
95:29
the party just because somebody’s an
95:31
idiot there’s lots of idiots out there
95:32
some people think I’m one I think some
95:35
other people are one stop walking away
95:37
from the party for that because every
95:39
group has them you’re never gonna get
95:41
anything done that way yeah that’s a
95:45
good point if you you know read the
95:47
party platform if you agree with that
95:49
platform and think that there is an
95:51
electoral component to freeing people
95:53
cuz I know I know many in Turkish who
95:55
say it’s a complete waste of time and
95:57
you know democracy is you know failure
96:00
and and you know there’s no way we can
96:01
vote ourselves to freedom okay fine if
96:02
you don’t believe that then don’t
96:04
believe it but if you do think that
96:05
there is a component not not necessarily
96:07
the whole thing but that there is a
96:08
component that can be played with
96:09
electoral politics instead of
96:11
ragequitting the the organization that
96:14
you agree with because of people or
96:16
groups in it that you don’t like if you
96:18
don’t like the Mises caucus if you don’t
96:19
like the audacious caucus the socialist
96:21
caucus the radical caucus them whatever
96:24
I I was recently invited to join the
96:26
Russian spy caucus of the libertarian
96:28
right they said if you if you don’t and
96:29
I’m a member
96:30
proud member bep ski boot ski if you if
96:33
you don’t if you don’t support these
96:35
things then go in and vote them out and
96:38
and or at least make yourself known on
96:40
it so I agree with you on that
96:42
we actually before I let you go we have
96:44
some some good comments Kerry Bittner
96:48
said put me in charge of a department we
96:50
want to drastically shrink or where you
96:52
want me to work myself out of a job
96:54
Michelle and Renee I’m sorry if I’m
96:58
saying your names wrong I apologize
97:00
wants to be in the head up the
97:02
Department of Labor I think for the same
97:04
reason let’s me show McCutcheon she does
97:07
that for a living so she can good at
97:08
that okay perfect so these are the these
97:11
are the people you can add and I can be
97:13
the Undersecretary of all turning
97:15
alternating days of yelling at the press
97:18
in whatever that office is called so
97:20
John again thank you so much for your
97:22
time I had an absolute blast I hope to
97:25
have you on soon that was a lot of fun
97:27
so thank you again and guys thank you
97:29
for to know if you can just wait a
97:31
minute I’m going to talk to you during
97:32
the out
97:33
but thank you again guys thank you again
97:36
for tuning in to this very special
97:37
episode of my fellow Americans all of my
97:39
episodes are very special but especially
97:41
this one be sure to tune in next week on
97:44
Tuesday for the muddy waters of freedom
97:46
I think I think that’s our special we’re
97:51
having a special that’s only going to be
97:53
on the float app so that’s float dot app
97:55
slash muddy bloody waters media slash
97:58
live we’re gonna be covering the
98:01
democratic debate it’s only gonna be on
98:02
float because all the other apps would
98:04
knock us off for showing copyrighted
98:07
content even though it is fair usual are
98:09
you gonna live cover the democratic
98:10
debate yeah that will be fun I
98:14
live-tweeted it last time and or not
98:15
last time it’s time before that and yeah
98:17
watching those guys who just turn over
98:19
deserve blast
98:20
it’s the bit it’s like it’s like Mystery
98:22
Science Theater 3000 except the monsters
98:24
are actually trying to harm you and so
98:28
we did dem again one and Emma get into
98:30
which are the Democratic debates but
98:32
then YouTube really hit us hard for that
98:35
so we’re not gonna do that anymore but
98:36
it’s gonna be on float and I think
98:38
that’s on Tuesday I’m not sure and if
98:40
it’s not then just tune in for a regular
98:42
role episode of the muddy waters of
98:43
freedom where Matt and I parse through
98:45
the week’s news like the sweet little
98:48
autumn cherubs that we are and then tune
98:50
it again actually I you know what I’m
98:54
not sure if I’m doing an episode I may
98:56
or may not be doing an episode you’re
98:58
not going to believe whether or not I’m
98:59
doing an episode Wednesday next
99:01
Wednesday to be sure to tune in one way
99:02
or the other guys thanks again for
99:03
tuning in god bless you
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