(((My Fellow Americans))) #46: Going Ballistic With Johnny Rocket

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Johnny rocket over the years he has
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speaking truth to power from your cell
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phone tower please welcome to the show
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mr. Johnny rocket Johnny thanks so much
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for joining hey thank Mike thank you so
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much and I’m here with my sponsor a
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coffee shout out to a narco coffee I
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don’t have nearly the cool sound effects
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that you have when you introduce a guest
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so instead I will play this short action
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sequence from Star Wars
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okay Oh awesome yes you I spend a lot of
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time clipping that out of five seconds
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and guys be sure to comment with your
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questions and thoughts and Johnny and I
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will tell you if you are right or wrong
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now Johnny this is your first time on
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the show yes anytime I have a guest on
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for the first time the first question I
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asked him is what brought you to
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libertarianism would you say that it was
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kind of an aha moment or a gradual
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evolution tell us about that
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I would say well I was a it started
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because I was in the government
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I hate mean like I think that’s the best
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way to become a libertarian is it
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actually worked for the goddamn
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government right right I started working
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I was in the government I was a soldier
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in the army
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I saw the fraud waste and abuse it was a
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gradual thing it didn’t happen overnight
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it was a slow progression and I think
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the the transition for me becoming a
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libertarian to an anarcho-capitalist was
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the aha moment like that was like holy
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right right right
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ire time but like the just becoming a
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libertarian no no it was a gradual thing
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I was a min arcus man I hate to say this
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because everyone wants to know like
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Johnny you know I was am in Arcis for
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like five six years I was am in Arcis
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for five or six years I just didn’t read
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enough books and finally I started
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reading some stuff and it changed my
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mind it was earth-shattering to me like
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especially Murray Rothbard
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when I read Murray Rothbard I’m like I’m
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okay I’m a fucking anarchist I fucking
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love this guy and it was it was it was
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like almost a spiritual moment like I
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called up all my friends who are
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anarchists I’m like dude you’re right
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I suck you’re right I’m sorry yeah the
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state doesn’t exist doesn’t need to
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exist you’re right writes all right it
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was just like it was a spiritual moment
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and to this like to this day dude I am
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just like spiritually loved the fact
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that I’m an anarchist I just applauded
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I’m like goddamn I see through the
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bullshit and you know there may be some
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issues here and there that people are
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gonna
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you’re not really a libertarian because
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of this and that and that but whatever I
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am an anarchist I don’t believe the
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government should exist and I believe
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that we should have our own
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self-governance and that’s what I
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believe so how we get there that could
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be discussed and debated but regardless
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of that yes it was a it was a beautiful
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thing and I’m very dogmatic about it
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spike I mean you got to stick to your
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principles you got to be libertarian and
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you just got to say fuck the state you
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know that’s work or say yeah as a yeah
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yeah no absolutely I I’m in the same
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place as you
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I get told that I’m not a real anarchist
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usually because I say that anarchy isn’t
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going to happen this very moment or not
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they’re like you’re not a real
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anarchists I’m like and yet this moment
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has passed and we are still not in
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anarchy
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so I maybe I’m not a real anarchist but
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it seems to me it seems to me like I
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have a very powerful data point going
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for me in the fact that it is still not
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in Turkey even as we’re continuing to
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talk well like the thing is is again a
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lot of people like I’m a radical I’m
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part of the radical caucus and though
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and when I say radical really the
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radicals in the party in the libertarian
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party I don’t know if you’re in the
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party or not but the radicals in the
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party are really the pragmatists in
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reality like the pragmatists are really
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the bootlickers of the party or they
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wanna this is me halfway and shit like
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that
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fuck that noise I’m like fuck the state
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I want us like let’s educate people
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let’s get people excited about Liberty
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let’s get people like warning the
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fucking get rid of shit in that like
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let’s not create legislation let’s get
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rid of legislation instead of creating
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legislation to fix legislation that
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could therefore be changed by further
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legislation it’s just like a big
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circular argument and it’s fucked up
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fuck that noise just get rid of it get
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rid of legislation so that’s like that
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is why I am so passionate about what I
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do because we just need to get rid of
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the state and I don’t know man I get
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frustrated with libertarians because
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they they think that if we have a
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message that’s bold and
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long that we sound crazy I don’t think
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we sound crazy I think there’s a lot of
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people out there spike who are like
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tired and they are they’re just fucking
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pissed off they’re angry and they don’t
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know what to do like I pay too much
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taxes I have to get vaccines I have to
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fucking register my guns I have to do
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this I have to do that if they register
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my car
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fuck that like we shouldn’t be doing
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that dude like why look at right look at
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how low voter turnout is anyone who so
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when people are like well you know
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people aren’t going to give it up and
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I’m like okay again not this very second
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they’re not gonna give it up I’m with
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you there and then an anarchist behind
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me yells you’re not a real anarchists
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but the the fact that like something
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like half of eligible adults just stay
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home because they’re like all these
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choices suck no one’s telling me
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anything that they haven’t been telling
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me that much you know as far back as I
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can remember and things keep getting the
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way they’re getting I’m just not gonna
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be involved with this those are people
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who at the very least are open to
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hearing about the idea that we don’t
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need any of this and and and for someone
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who says we should have you know that we
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should present a party of essentially
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like washed-up former Republicans who
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are fed up with what the Republican
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Party is doing so we’re gonna switch red
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for yellow or gold or whatever and we’re
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gonna we’re gonna present a little bit
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you know we’re gonna add free weed to
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our platform and now we’re libertarians
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like it clearly it’s worked right
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because we’ve gotten what I think we’ve
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maxed out at two-and-a-half percent of
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the vote or 2.8 percent so it’s working
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no that’s the thing like I don’t think
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it has worked because of that we unite
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with a bold message like everyone’s like
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what we gonna meet people halfway we
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don’t want to scare people off Ron Paul
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I’m a big Ron Paul guy but Ron Paul the
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only motherfucker who went out there and
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actually said what libertarianism is he
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was the only motherfucker who had the
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courage who actually said no I’m gonna
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have a bold message I don’t give a shit
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it sounds unpopular a lot of people
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thought it would be unpopular but it
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actually
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was the popular thing like what he was
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saying is I think people need to hear
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the truth and I when we start like
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muddle muddying down the message and
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start like it when it becomes
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milquetoast that’s when we start losing
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people when we have a platform and we
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have a principals we have a statement of
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principles and we adhere to those things
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dude that’s very powerful yeah it’s
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really powerful and a lot of people want
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something they want a direction they
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want something they can follow like
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that’s the thing I think that that that
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is the problem with politics there is no
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principles people like oh I kind of
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believe in this and I I kind of see the
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right and I kind of see the left’s
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position on these things why don’t we
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take a principled stance and stand by
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and keep driving forward with it I think
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people need direction and I think this
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is what’s the problem with politics is
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there is no direction in the Libertarian
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Party and not even the party but the
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message itself the principles of
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libertarianism is very fine and it’s
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very concise and it’s very effective
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dude we should be full steam ahead 100%
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all the time that’s cool like to me I’m
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excited
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every time I do a show about
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libertarianism dude I get excited to do
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a show I get excited to talk to a guest
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about economics right you know like how
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they feel like things laws that are
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bullshit I get excited because I am
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hopefully helping somebody understand an
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issue where they have maybe reservations
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regarding that issue and it helps them
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get over that hump you know what I mean
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like for you isn’t like let me ask you a
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question
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you’re an anarchic right it was the
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thing that like like kind of like
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stopped you from going full-blown
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anarchist at one point like as soon as
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that so I was under the misapprehension
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that the Constitution protected our
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rights and freedoms so even when I look
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back at like old posts and like old
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conversations I had with people and
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stuff like that and I realize I was
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essentially an anarchist since late 2013
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but I kept going back to
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you know we got out we’re gonna you know
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go back to our constitutional roots and
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and my anarchist friends would say have
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you read the Constitution and I’m like
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yeah and they say no the first seven
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sections have you read sections one and
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two and I’m like I’ve read the Bill of
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Rights and they’re like I’m gonna read
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the first two sections of the
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Constitution and then read some and and
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so I listen to the dangerous history
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podcast and a few things write that and
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um no treason like Lysander Spooner and
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and then I got black pilled into you
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know sterner and and rothbard and von
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Mises and all that but but even before
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that once I actually read sections 1 and
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2 of the Constitution I’m like this
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thing authorizes the government the
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state to rob kidnap and murder us
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essentially as it sees fit what little
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weasel what little bit of a supposedly
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mination that is in there has so much
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lawyers written weasel wording in there
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that everything the anti-federalists
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said was right this thing says we can
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steal from you as much as we want this
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thing says that we can you know this
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whole the habeas corpus Clause says that
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you know that what Lincoln did he
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couldn’t suspend that it says that it
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gives all these reasons that if they if
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the government decides that the
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government needs to needs that that the
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conditions what does it may require it
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quote-unquote then they’ll do whatever
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they want to us
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so once I read that I was like no no no
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no this is this is I it was like a 1:8
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that was my aha moment it was like a 180
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change
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I went from I went from
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constitutionalism to like know all of
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this is B and then and then reading
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Spooner and explaining like none of us
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sign this even like 99% of the people at
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the time you guys contract and then we
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can get it social contract exactly
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exactly yeah so like good point it’s so
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like but yeah dude like I was the same
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thing like you know the only thing that
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we have right now that’s cool is the
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Bill of Rights and I just interviewed
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Monica Perez and hurt the show that
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we’re gonna do it’s gonna come out in a
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few weeks but it was she was great I
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mean she
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she loves the Bill of Rights because
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that’s the only thing that we had only
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redeemable part yeah it’s the only
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redeemable part I mean yeah like and we
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were talking about the offline we were
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talking about the Articles of
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Confederation and really if you read the
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articles all that was was hey man were
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cool and you’re state we’re cool my
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state we’re cool and if you want to
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travel cool and we’re not gonna tax you
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if you come through our state all right
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cool
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yeah that was all much it was in it and
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everyone’s like well it wasn’t effective
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and we couldn’t raise taxes and blah
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blah blah blah and it failed no it
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didn’t fail there was the reason that
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people got upset with the Articles of
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Confederation is they had no power they
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had no authority they couldn’t raise
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taxes they couldn’t tell people what to
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do and ahead of unanimous vote for
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anyone to get anything done and anything
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and in any kind of legislation it had to
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be almost unanimous I believe it was you
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know yeah was it was it was unanimous
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the other you know every single person
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had to agree with it which is yeah let’s
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talk about consent of the governed if
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you want to say that we have the consent
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of the government which even that
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Articles of Confederation didn’t truly
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have the consent of the governed but at
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least was an actual attempt at limited
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government and the concept that unless
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everyone that was elected as a
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representative was on board with this we
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are not doing it and and in that
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condition the the US government was able
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to fight the Barbary pirates and defeat
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them the Barbary pirates who by the way
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had lost two had defeated other other
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countries or not defeated other
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countries but had successfully fought
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back any attempt to stop them again
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we’re able to do that they were able to
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expand the economy of the of the of the
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of the colonies the reason that the Bill
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of Rights was added the Bill of Rights
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and and once you once you read it this
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way you may not like it anymore but it
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is the only redeemable part it is also a
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lip service to the concept of natural
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rights that was added by the Federalists
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to keep the anti-federalists from
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kicking down the door and killing all of
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them for treason because it was illegal
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the way that they were placed the
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Articles of Confederation with the
19:06
Constitution was actually technically
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illegal which just shows how much the
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rule of law is gar
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because as soon as the Articles of
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Confederation was gone it wasn’t illegal
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anymore um yes because it just we we did
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this and it took forever to get ratified
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yeah it took years to get right a follow
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up people just thought hey we just love
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the shit we love but no no no no no no a
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lot of people were afraid and that is
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the one of the one of the guess meeting
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in the middle was if you do this
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constitution thing we need a bill of
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rights to protect our and protect what
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was funny about it is like a lot of
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people like don’t understand the unsung
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heroes of the Bill of Rights you know
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you got like George Mason it was like
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what the fighters you know but the thing
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is regarding the Constitution the
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Articles of Confederation is like the
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Federalists were really just monarchs
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and the anti-federalists were really
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Federalist yeah if you look historically
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yes Sok that’s correct and same thing
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how I view libertarians you know like
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the radicals are really the pragmatists
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you know and the so-called pragmatists
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are really status let’s just be honest
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yeah no absolutely yeah I do believe
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that and I think it was it was good it
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was a good thing that they did stand up
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to something like we’re not gonna agree
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to this until we have a Bill of Rights
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and this is why they did it it was kind
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of like hey we ain’t gonna sign off on
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this until you say and a lot of people
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don’t know the spike but regarding like
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the First Amendment’s Second Amendment
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all the amendments the first hand of the
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Bill of Rights a lot of people assumed
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that that was really it was dealt to the
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individual a lot of people thought that
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you know I have the right to bear arms
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it’s the Second Amendment I have no
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right to bear actually nothing to do
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with the individual it actually meant
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that the federal government couldn’t
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fuck with the states and implement gun
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laws on right yep yep nothing to do with
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the individual so the state of
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Massachusetts or I call it
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affectionately massive two shits could
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actually implement gun control laws yeah
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if that state wanted to
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but the federal government couldn’t and
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so again the federal but then there was
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another law that went on through the
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Supreme Court and it changed everything
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where it actually applied to all the
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states so a lot of people don’t know
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American history that the the the Bill
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of Rights actually didn’t apply to the
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individual and applied to what the
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federal government could do the state
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still had power hence the tenth of them
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you know yeah and just to show that they
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had zero commitment to the Bill of
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Rights even from the beginning the
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whiskey rebellion they were all right
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we’re gonna tax whiskey and people said
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no we’re not so that no you’re not and
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so the first thing I did was seize
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everyone’s guns in the whiskey
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during the whiskey rebellion so so early
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on early early on Patrick Henry and the
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rest of the anti-federalists were
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completely vindicated of any of their
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their initial concerns about what would
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happen with the Constitution now I do
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think eventually the Articles of
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Confederation would have just the
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mission creep of government led to
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something so I mean it is what it is and
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you know it’s it’s it’s it’s terrible
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but at the same time so to answer your
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question my when I once I knew what the
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Constitution actually was it allowed me
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to kind of and like you said it’s very
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kind of freeing thing I was able to
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really divorce myself from that whole
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concept and it allowed me to completely
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look at things that I would have never
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looked at like you know anarchists stuff
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like sterner like rothbard like von
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Mises like and it had Miri reread things
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from like Hayek and stuff in a
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completely different light so even
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though it some of them weren’t even
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anarchists but it allowed me to read
23:02
things from them but it was very much an
23:07
end oh yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah like it
23:09
was great though because I mean it was
23:11
the the aha moment spike I mean it was
23:14
like I was reading this book on holy
23:16
shit man this makes sense like I never
23:18
looked at things in this light before
23:20
and how the government is violence how
23:23
the government is you know coercion
23:25
constantly no matter what you do no
23:29
matter what you do you could be doing
23:31
nothing wrong you’re an asshole you you
23:34
know you can be punished under law and
23:35
it’s just a way for the state and the
23:38
State and in the way that the
23:40
Constitution was written I don’t know if
23:42
it was intentional this is up to debate
23:45
with a lot of people um but the way it
23:47
was written it was it seemed I mean even
23:51
for its time it seemed pretty
23:52
loosey-goosey in regards to like
23:56
interpretation you know like you know to
23:58
aesthetic to maintain a well-trained
24:01
militia you know the second amendment
24:03
was it could have been just every
24:04
individual or every state should have
24:06
the right to bear arms it should have
24:08
been period and it in yeah yeah you know
24:11
I mean it just seemed you know like the
24:13
the general welfare clause and it was
24:16
loosey-goosey speak he was legalese and
24:19
I could it was it was it was it was it
24:21
was lawyer weasel wording it was it was
24:23
written by lawyers it was literally
24:25
written by lawyers right and I think it
24:28
should have been more precise and more
24:31
you know concise and that would have
24:35
been cool at least you know even if we
24:37
lived under a constitutional government
24:39
even if we had an actual constitutional
24:42
government which we do not but if we had
24:44
that it would still be a hundred percent
24:46
better than what we have now yeah 100
24:49
and that was just and that would be
24:52
considered a monarchist document by
24:54
today’s standards by today’s standards
24:56
yeah the true menarche ism in my mind
24:58
were the Articles of Confederation bar
25:00
none like that was an actual in my mind
25:03
an actual Ernest these are people that
25:06
just got off the battlefield shooting at
25:08
cops and then they write this thing this
25:11
was like a legit attempt by the people
25:14
who had fired the actual like muskets
25:16
and rifles that said yeah I could see
25:19
they were like alright let’s actually
25:20
try to have a limited government that is
25:23
so hard to to have mission creep that it
25:26
never happens and then you know a few
25:28
years later the the the financed ears
25:31
and and and some of the people behind
25:32
the revolution were like yeah no let’s
25:34
completely replaced this with something
25:35
that’ll just creep out of control so ya
25:38
know I I’m very much in the in the camp
25:40
of people that say it was an intentional
25:42
poison pill to lead to every bit of what
25:46
we have today I think that that and not
25:49
not all of them but that especially like
25:51
Hamilton and a lot of
25:52
people that were that were pushing it
25:53
the hardest absolutely wanted it to turn
25:55
into they wanted they they envied and
25:58
and and coveted the power and the
26:01
centralization that their colleagues in
26:03
Europe had and and it is what it did
26:07
yeah he was um he wanted to set up the
26:09
centralized banking system no I mean he
26:12
wanted centralized control that was his
26:14
gig that was what he was fighting for
26:16
the entire time right and everyone
26:19
raised his Hamilton because he had a
26:20
fuckin goddamn Broadway musical in his
26:24
name and everyone’s like he’s fuckin
26:25
great fuck that guy he was a piece of
26:27
shit I like guys like Patrick Henry
26:30
George Mason I even have a lot of love
26:34
for Thomas Jefferson I mean somebody’s
26:36
like well he was a slave owner and blah
26:38
blah blah blah you know what that was
26:40
part of that culture and I think people
26:42
need to kind of take a step back it was
26:46
wrong it’s morally reprehensible to own
26:48
slaves or have slaves of any sort
26:50
however at that time it was kind of like
26:53
owning a car at that time in that period
26:57
in time and he was one of the only
26:59
motherfuckers out there who actually
27:01
recognized that it was evil he was one
27:06
of the only despite being one he
27:07
actually recognized yeah yeah yeah like
27:10
you know like right now it’s like well
27:12
we own a dog you know or whatever but
27:14
like I’m just saying like he at least
27:16
spoke up about it and saying it is wrong
27:19
yes he waves as far as I from what I’ve
27:23
read he was very good to his slaves that
27:27
doesn’t excuse the fact he was a slave
27:29
up as slave owners went right right
27:31
right right but as as a slave owner he
27:36
was the only one of that time period or
27:39
one of the only there was a few others
27:41
but he was one of the other one of the
27:43
only people out there at that time
27:44
period who actually had the balls to
27:46
stand up and say you know what what I’m
27:48
doing is wrong and these people are
27:50
being held against their will
27:52
yeah and it’s nobody should be able to
27:54
own anyone else and this is wrong right
27:57
so he dodged it right so it was never
28:00
not more we actually talked about this
28:02
last night on the muddy waters of
28:03
freedom it was never not morally Rep
28:05
Hensel to own people Jefferson so at
28:09
that time and for like another good
28:11
hundred plus years afterwards what we
28:13
now call white supremacy was considered
28:16
settled science it was considered you
28:19
know eugenics and all of these these you
28:21
know completely debunked so-called
28:23
sciences at the time they were told
28:25
white people were in every way and at
28:28
that time that the the the who was
28:30
considered white was much more it was
28:32
eight you know people from England uh
28:34
Western Europe and parts of Scandinavia
28:37
Germans were not white Irish people were
28:39
not white Italians were not white Jews
28:41
were absolutely not white what’s that
28:45
the French the French were white so this
28:48
very small group of basically Norman
28:51
people were superior to everyone else
28:53
including other white people and so when
28:55
they look at someone like a black person
28:57
they looked at them as as somewhere
28:59
between a human and a pack animal and so
29:03
for someone in that time to recognize
29:06
that that there was still something
29:07
inherently wrong with it was actually a
29:09
progressive belief at the time so I mean
29:12
it was like mind-blowing the people like
29:15
we can’t have people like that speaking
29:17
like that like the the normal culture
29:20
the NB C of you know the 1780s was you
29:24
know UK these are fucking animals these
29:28
are right yeah these are not human
29:30
beings they’re working you know they’re
29:32
they’re their father yeah that’s how
29:34
they viewed it we’re like Jefferson at
29:37
least had the balls to say you know what
29:39
this is bullshit these people have
29:41
feelings they have families they have
29:42
emotions they care about things they’re
29:45
creative they have so much to offer the
29:47
world and he was one of the guys who
29:49
actually spoke up and it was unpopular
29:53
at the time and like our ideas aren’t
29:55
popular now but like 200 years from now
29:58
spike we could be like yeah we have
30:01
spike cone and Johnny rocket and we had
30:03
we’d found this lost tape you know and
30:06
here we are talking about the shit but
30:07
like our ideas are not popular now but
30:10
maybe in a hundred years or 200 years
30:12
from now our ideas will be like these
30:14
these are the guys who are like I can
30:16
lead them to charge
30:17
today right yeah I think they’ll be
30:19
popular what’s that that’d be fucking
30:22
cool man if we yeah yeah no I think and
30:25
I think it will and I think honestly it
30:26
will happen sooner than that I think
30:27
it’ll happen as soon as the the main
30:31
people pushing for it don’t keep trying
30:33
to be Republican adjacent or Democrat
30:36
adjacent and say this is a uniquely
30:38
libertarian thing we are not Republicans
30:40
who like weed and we are not Democrats
30:42
who like guns we are are we’re not any
30:45
part either wing of the authoritarian
30:49
hemisphere of the of the thing spike I
30:54
got to commend you on this I think
30:56
you’re absolutely right and I think a
30:57
lot of people just keep getting this
30:59
wrong work yeah you know they say well
31:01
you you guys are just you know I have to
31:03
hear that Gary Johnson bullshit again
31:05
I’m gonna fucking shoot myself and I
31:06
have a gun right here but like what I
31:08
was saying those do it no one do it
31:10
conservative and socially liberal
31:12
actually you could be a libertarian and
31:15
be socially conservative yeah you can it
31:18
just means that you just don’t want the
31:20
state involved I want to impose it on
31:22
anyone libertarianism is it has nothing
31:25
to do with your your preference right it
31:28
just means that you have the freedom to
31:30
choose but I also have the freedom to
31:32
associate right so I don’t like what
31:35
you’re doing as a an outlet like I used
31:39
the the joke here but I was in a
31:40
rockabilly band for 10 years and we so
31:43
wear shirts I said fuck hippies it was a
31:45
joke you know like hippies are actually
31:47
kind of they’re very nice people but it
31:50
was a joke and they kind of laughed at
31:51
it too because what are they gonna do
31:53
beat me up now they’re not so it was
31:55
funny because hippies are just they
31:57
don’t do shit so like we said fuck
31:59
hippies they laughed at it too but what
32:02
I’m saying is if you don’t want to be
32:03
part of that culture or if you don’t
32:05
want to partake in that kind of thing
32:07
libertarianism doesn’t necessarily mean
32:09
libertine ISM and there can be libertine
32:12
ism right and be a libertarian and you
32:16
could be a libertarian and not believe
32:17
in liberty nism yeah absolutely
32:19
very very conservative person who just
32:22
wants the state left alone but yet you
32:24
don’t want the state to inflict harm on
32:27
those people who are happy with their
32:29
choice and
32:30
right right and you can choose to
32:32
associate or dissociate as you please
32:35
which is what we do anyway this is so
32:37
people say yeah but without the
32:38
government you know people are gonna
32:40
people are gonna not want to to be
32:42
around certain people and I’m like how
32:43
is that different than now how many and
32:46
I’ll say it it’s often people on the
32:48
left that’ll say this and I’m like how
32:49
many like Trump supporting Republicans
32:52
who you know chant build the wall do you
32:55
want to associate with on a daily basis
32:56
if you if you absolutely don’t have to
32:58
like no one wants to associate with
33:01
people that that you know whose values
33:04
and beliefs and way of life is polar
33:06
opposite from them especially when they
33:09
are you know vehemently so like I there
33:12
are many people that I wish them well
33:14
they can believe whatever they want I
33:16
just want them to leave me alone and I’d
33:17
be happy to leave them alone so I know
33:19
I’m Wiggly there so dude it’s it’s
33:22
beautiful though because it is what if
33:24
we’re individuals we have different
33:26
choices we have different preferences
33:28
yeah I mean this is the economy grow I
33:31
mean like some people like video games
33:33
some people don’t some people like rap
33:35
music some people don’t some people like
33:37
metals people don’t this is where we all
33:40
are like we all have different
33:42
preferences we have different ideas we
33:44
have different tastes and like I hate
33:47
fucking seafood like me and Kim talk
33:50
about this shit all the time she’s like
33:51
well I’m gonna go out tonight and I’m
33:53
gonna get some fucking shrimp and some
33:55
salmon and I’m like fuck that I hate
33:57
both of those I don’t like shrimp or
33:59
salmon but like that’s her choice and so
34:02
so like it doesn’t mean I don’t like
34:04
that’s not like a deal-breaker for me
34:06
what I’m saying is we all have different
34:09
preferences right no Ron and but I don’t
34:12
want to force my preferences on somebody
34:15
else and this is really the whole point
34:17
of libertarianism that’s the entire line
34:19
yeah and I really do like that
34:20
expression live-and-let-live because it
34:22
is but at the same time it’s kind of
34:25
misleading and especially when like gary
34:27
johnson used it because he was just
34:29
trying to say like you know just let
34:31
people do the thing and whatever but if
34:33
they can’t bake the cake Dada you know
34:37
that have to force them to bake the
34:39
goddamn cake fuck that
34:40
like and I’m for property rights which
34:42
is you know I and it sounds
34:45
but it really is really beautiful like
34:48
if you’re an asshole enough let’s just
34:51
say I’m a club owner and I don’t let
34:53
Asian people in in my club I have the
34:57
right to do that but I can also like
34:59
lose a lot of money by not by
35:02
discriminating against people if you
35:04
don’t if you don’t want so if I were
35:08
Asian and you didn’t want me in your
35:11
business I want to know that you don’t
35:13
want me in your business so that I can
35:15
never go in your business never you can
35:18
accidentally give you a penny and let
35:20
everyone else know that you don’t want a
35:23
jhin’s in your business and if you don’t
35:24
want Asians there’s probably other
35:25
there’s there’s likely not not but
35:27
there’s likely other people you don’t
35:29
want either and I want people to know
35:31
that if you look at you know the so
35:32
called cancel culture right now where
35:34
anyone who’s even perceived as being
35:36
bigoted is you know destroyed on social
35:39
media anyone who thinks that we need a
35:41
government to enforce a preferences
35:44
there’s not paying attention to the
35:47
internet because if I said my name’s
35:49
spike Cohen and I don’t want black
35:51
people to watch my show first of all
35:53
then my wife couldn’t watch my show but
35:54
if I if I said that and she would never
35:57
watch my show but anyway if I were to
35:59
say you know I don’t want black people
36:00
watched my show she don’t watch it
36:04
anyway so that’s why but if I’ve said
36:05
that that would be like a lot of people
36:10
would not want to associate with me
36:11
anymore and then the people who wouldn’t
36:13
who would want to associate with me I
36:15
wouldn’t want to associate with it
36:16
so I mean it you got to let people do
36:18
their own thing III by the way I hate
36:20
the term economically conservative and
36:24
socially liberal first of all we are
36:25
economically we are economically
36:27
conservative and socially awkward first
36:29
of all so that’s I mean let’s be honest
36:31
about what we really are let’s be honest
36:33
with libertarians right right you know
36:35
like you know okay that’s a great thing
36:39
that you brought up because I noticed
36:41
this historically across like you go to
36:44
a libertarian event and you know like we
36:47
went to like a convention or something
36:48
and it was funny because you see like
36:51
people walking into the you know hotel
36:53
or wherever function were at but
36:55
other people doing other things they
36:56
have like real lives and shit you know
36:58
they’re going right you have like a job
37:00
or something yeah and they’re walking in
37:02
and I’m like that’s not a libertarian
37:05
these people getting out of their cars
37:07
you’re like hey guys party one of us and
37:10
then like sure shit there is yeah always
37:14
awkward they’re always like hey hi you
37:17
know like it’s just like dude you guys
37:19
you got to talk to people a little bit
37:20
more you don’t mean like arguing that
37:22
Facebook is one thing but actually
37:24
communicating with people that’s the
37:26
real challenge yeah it’s actually
37:28
speaking real people talk you know
37:31
actually talking to people and I’m not
37:32
bashing libertarians but you guys know
37:34
this yeah so sorry guys but happy you
37:40
guys can’t get what late in a woman’s
37:41
prison with a bag of dope and keys to
37:43
the gate I’m sorry but you can’t and you
37:46
guys got to get out there and start
37:47
fucking talking to people and start
37:50
speaking their language and combining
37:52
the two languages but if there is a
37:54
social awkwardness with libertarians man
37:56
and I’m not trying to bash on
37:58
libertarians because there’s no no no
37:59
not at all yeah no not all people it’s
38:03
like it’s kind of like knowing the guy
38:05
who knows D&D; really well you know like
38:09
you know you know even know about
38:12
Dungeons and Dragons they know
38:14
everything about that goddamn game they
38:17
know every fucking role but if there’s a
38:19
little bit of a social awkwardness I
38:21
don’t know where it comes for a man
38:23
maybe they’re just smart I don’t know I
38:26
think that because of garbage messaging
38:30
I think that libertarianism is almost
38:33
exclusively drawing people who are so
38:35
cerebral that were just into the
38:38
philosophy I am right
38:39
I’m cerebral but I also was socialized
38:43
as a kid so like I’m able to like
38:46
interact with others but I’m very much a
38:48
nerd and and it does attract – those
38:51
people for and it’s yeah it is it’s
38:53
great it’s a it’s a unique thing and
38:54
unfortunately there are people within
38:56
the group who would rather it remain
38:58
this almost like knitting club of also
39:02
weird people and get upset when the you
39:04
know normies are invited which is why
39:06
there was so much backlash to Larry
39:08
Sharpe
39:09
mark said he’s pretty much an anarchist
39:11
he recognizes that there’s gonna be
39:12
steps on the way he does actually
39:14
consider himself a pragmatist even
39:16
though his ideas of what he eventually
39:18
wants would be more considered a de chol
39:20
but his biggest thing is like you have
39:22
to talk to people and so that’s what
39:24
you’ve done with your with with your
39:25
show like you’ve got you so you were the
39:27
host of the Johnny u rocket launch pad
39:29
for five years and then for about the
39:31
last what about year or so just over a
39:33
year
39:34
you’ve been hosting blast off with
39:35
Johnny rocket with your co-hosts raylene
39:37
light heart oh and like I said before
39:40
you were one of my inspiration so I’m
39:42
I’m thank you I’m kind of jealous that
39:46
you have that that really cool gritty
39:47
voice whereas I sound like the token
39:51
cigarettes coffee beer liquor whiskey
39:54
email it’s a coke it’s a it’s a
39:57
cultivated sound whereas I sound like
39:59
the token Jew anchor on your local news
40:01
affiliate um but you’re a good local
40:04
Jude man and we need my uncle G I
40:06
appreciate that I appreciate that mentor
40:08
no but like here’s the thing dude and
40:11
you’re absolutely right I really like
40:12
what you’re what you’re saying like
40:14
you’re nailing it on the head and it is
40:16
a cultural war that we’re in right now
40:19
yeah the cultural war and we’re ignored
40:22
we’re ignored and everyone you know and
40:24
I think like me as a libertarian I maybe
40:28
can speak more righties I always say
40:31
righties but I seem to like affiliate or
40:36
maybe converse better with conservative
40:39
on the right right right all right I do
40:42
and it’s not because I am a conservative
40:44
but I I feel their pain I know where
40:46
they’re coming from I don’t know what it
40:48
is but we’re ignored there’s a culture
40:51
war going on and we’re in the middle and
40:53
we’re going and we’re not even in the
40:55
middle we’re just ignored we’re
40:56
completely on the outside yeah we’re not
40:58
in the middle we’re radio host over here
41:08
fucking yappin about fuckin racism who
41:10
gives a shit about this guy let’s hear
41:12
what Trump has to say like nobody gives
41:14
a fuck what I have to say or these
41:16
fucking guys even Tom woods the fucking
41:19
like king of fucking liberty fucking
41:21
podcast
41:22
Dave’s or any of these cats nobody gives
41:26
a fuck except for us because we’re like
41:28
an episode 422 you said that they
41:31
non-aggression principle doesn’t you’re
41:33
like fuck you did like this is how
41:35
everyone gets involved in the fuckin you
41:37
know like the details of it we need to
41:39
start influencing culture Ouisa but
41:42
people involved getting them excited
41:44
about Liberty instead of just sitting
41:46
there fucking jerking each other off I
41:48
mean this is exactly what we’re doing
41:49
each other off well I’m just smarter
41:52
than you are and I know more about
41:53
Liberty than you fuck you like we need
41:56
to get rid of the state and we need to
41:57
get everyone on our side dude like this
41:59
is a fucking calling this is a calling
42:02
we need to do this now we can’t be
42:04
sitting around going well why don’t we
42:06
use some pragmatic laws and meet them
42:09
halfway and create AB it’s not the rare
42:12
times the rare times that there is a
42:15
eight a quieting enough that they might
42:18
actually hear what we have to say the
42:20
two things that though here are either
42:21
like some washed-up Republican say like
42:24
I’m not sure where Aleppo is or they’ll
42:27
hear some schmuck Oh taxation as theft
42:30
and they’re like okay and and what does
42:32
that have to do with what we’re talking
42:34
like we don’t actually influence the
42:36
conversation or the culture and and it’s
42:39
it’s great that we have these shows and
42:40
I do think that that that I actually
42:43
market my show to people who aren’t even
42:45
into libertarianism so like I I like put
42:48
it in pages and groups and in social
42:50
circles that aren’t even into politics
42:52
and I’ll be like you know just check it
42:54
out and just see you know especially the
42:56
muddy waters where we talk about like
42:57
current events and stuff where I’m like
42:58
just check out what we have to say
43:00
because I can have 5,000 people who
43:04
already completely agree with us or 99%
43:07
agree with us in the libertarian party
43:09
and we can all get together and comment
43:11
at each other about how which one’s not
43:13
a real libertarian and and that’s gonna
43:16
accomplish nothing
43:18
because right now Donald Trump can walk
43:20
into any metro area in any part of the
43:23
country and attract like 50,000 people
43:26
and you know I mean so what what are we
43:30
doing in that in that situation well you
43:33
bring up a good point because a lot of
43:34
people say well you
43:36
you guys argue and you eat your own
43:37
because you guys say you’re not a real
43:39
libertarian I think we need to be honest
43:42
with each other
43:43
and I think this is a really really
43:45
important thing and I think this might
43:47
be the most important thing of the show
43:49
in my opinion spike is that it’s all
43:53
about the state if you’re a part of the
43:55
Libertarian Party it’s about the
43:58
statement of principles the goal of a
44:00
libertarian party is to get rid of the
44:02
admitted state yeah this cult of ‘man
44:05
yes it’s not there to meet people
44:08
halfway it’s not there to kowtow to the
44:11
left or kowtow to the right it’s not
44:14
there to create legislation we’re there
44:16
to get rid of legislation period this is
44:19
the point of the party this is the point
44:21
of the movement we have been trying to
44:24
trick people for the last 40 years now
44:27
actually I wouldn’t say 40 years because
44:29
during the 80s there was a pretty big
44:32
fucking cool revival yeah yeah last 20
44:36
years 21 years the Libertarian Party is
44:40
trying to brainwash people saying well
44:43
we’re not really Republicans and we’re
44:45
really not Democrats that is bullshit
44:48
that is not that is a false sale that is
44:51
fraud we are not about that we are about
44:54
a getting rid of the government and
44:56
doing and leaving people alone to live
44:59
the lies that they choose to live that
45:01
is what we believe and without without
45:05
aggressing against other people right
45:07
this is we believe the non-aggression
45:10
principle property rights and leave me
45:12
the fuck alone and get ridding getting
45:14
rid of the state now to me that is what
45:17
libertarianism is it isn’t some
45:20
political party that’s meant to you know
45:23
change laws and create laws in the name
45:27
of freedom it’s about getting rid of
45:29
things and I think we need to drive that
45:32
home spike I think it’s very important
45:34
because I think people have been lied to
45:36
for the last 20 years and when when
45:38
people hear that I ask people read the
45:41
statement of principles of a libertarian
45:43
party and people will go well that’s up
45:45
to interpretation no it’s not it’s not
45:48
it’s really clear it
45:49
really query like that maybe about the
45:53
non-aggression principle like what is
45:55
aggression like if I’m spitting on the
45:57
sidewalk and it offends you then you
45:59
know you have a little debate about that
46:01
whatever right but the stated statement
46:02
of principles is fairly varied it like
46:04
in very cut and dry terms yeah yeah it’s
46:07
fucking Clinton dry it’s not even like
46:09
we’re meeting you halfway or anything no
46:11
it’s not up to interpretation it’s a
46:13
statement of principles this is what
46:15
they believe this is what the
46:16
libertarian party believes and it’s
46:18
fucking cool like I am so fucking glad
46:22
that the libertarian party had enough
46:23
sense the founder David Nolan had enough
46:26
sense to make it like a seven eighths
46:28
vote to change it which is like
46:30
impossible which is awesome like yes
46:32
like you guys yeah and you’re never
46:35
changing this yeah yeah no fucking cool
46:37
dude I get excited like fuck you like
46:40
he’s so cool to see that like that guy
46:43
had it fucking figured out he thought it
46:45
through and people thought it through
46:47
but that’s the thing man I think we’re
46:49
not at one point I was like am in Arcis
46:53
soft-sell libertarian like I was saying
46:56
like remember we were saying it was a
46:57
gradual thing I was that guy at one
47:00
point and I thought radicals and men are
47:04
anarchists were crazy these guys are
47:06
fucking nuts plus some of them were kind
47:08
of nuts but that being said like I feel
47:12
like I was lied to
47:13
yes yes the messaging is a bit of a lie
47:18
so they’ll say so you’ll have the the
47:21
pragmatist who will go to the
47:22
Republicans and say hey you like the
47:23
Republican Party you’re gonna love the
47:25
Libertarian Party and then they go over
47:26
to the Democrats they go hey you like
47:28
the Democratic Party you’re gonna love
47:30
the Libertarian Party Democrats and
47:31
Republicans hate each other they’ve been
47:33
conditioned to hate each other and
47:34
believe that that the entire political
47:37
spectrum is Democrats and Republicans
47:39
and that are polar opposites and that
47:41
they have to hate each other because
47:43
they’re that you know it’s the battle
47:44
both sides believe that they’re on the
47:46
good side of the battle between good and
47:48
evil so when we go in and go well you
47:49
know we’re kind of somewhere between the
47:50
two of you we sound like garbage we
47:52
sound like my terrible idea because if
47:55
I’m a a Republican and I hear well we’re
47:57
sort of like a Republican but with some
47:59
Democrat ideas added I go I don’t like
48:02
Democrats
48:03
I think Democrats want to destroy
48:05
America or if I’m a Democrat Emily well
48:07
the Republicans want to you know turn us
48:09
into a you know white nationalist you
48:11
know goo fortress or what I like
48:13
whatever they believe if I go in saying
48:17
yeah we’re kind of the best of both of
48:18
you guys they’re like no that’s Carl I
48:20
don’t want that at all if we go in and
48:22
say all of this is nonsense you’ve been
48:24
lied to for the last two hundred and
48:26
some-odd years they’ve keep marching
48:28
left and you know that the left boot
48:30
comes down on you and you goes that’s it
48:32
I’m sick of this I’m voting for the
48:33
right boot and then the right boot comes
48:35
down and you go oh that’s it I’ll never
48:37
take this again I’m voting for the left
48:38
boot and they’re just marching on top of
48:40
you as they progress forward in this
48:42
ever expansion of the size scope power
48:45
lethality and cost of the government we
48:48
want none of that and we want something
48:50
wildly different that to me is so much
48:52
of a better to it to it to a society in
48:55
a country with like half of the people
48:56
aren’t even showing up to vote on a
48:58
Tuesday because it’s just like this is
49:01
all shit like all of this is garbage I
49:03
want nothing to do with it that to me is
49:05
so much better than you know throwing
49:07
our panties at just in a mash because he
49:09
has some name recognition and like
49:10
Justin please come front for president
49:13
you’re not even really a libertarian but
49:15
you don’t like Trump okay really quick
49:18
in his defense I’m not saying I really
49:22
even like the guy I really I do like
49:24
Justin Amash I think he is a good he’s
49:26
actually one of the best politicians
49:28
we’ve had in a long time I mean because
49:31
he actually has a conscience you know he
49:33
actually understands some fundamentals
49:35
of LeBrons
49:36
right um but I don’t think he’s I
49:39
wouldn’t vote for yes yes for a theory
49:44
like if there was no Libertarian Party
49:46
and I was like and I just wouldn’t do it
49:50
now the only but here’s the thing like
49:53
who got the most excite who got the most
49:56
excitement who got the most like people
49:59
like want a revolution Ron Paul Ron why
50:03
why but why Ron Paul yeah why because
50:07
look at Bernie
50:08
why is Bernie so successful yeah because
50:10
it’s the same thing like it’s the wrong
50:13
side he is everything that we are not
50:15
right but
50:17
but at least he has a fucking print like
50:20
he has a message and he’s not wavering
50:23
from it like where we’re trying this
50:25
fucking you know try to please everybody
50:27
trying to say yeah bullshit that’s
50:29
fucking crazy
50:30
we’re ron paul actually says some really
50:32
great beautiful stuff yeah like it was
50:35
the truth and i think that there’s
50:38
something wrong and both sides are
50:40
playing it like ron paul said this
50:42
shit’s wrong this shit’s wrong and you
50:44
should be pissed Bernie Sanders saying
50:47
the same shit saying the exact same
50:48
thing exactly
50:49
he’s right when Bernie starts talking
50:51
about the problems that are going on
50:52
he’s right his solutions are to make it
50:54
worse but the bless he’s but when he
50:56
said Donald Trump he would explain the
51:00
things that are happening and and why
51:01
they’re wrong but then he would also go
51:03
to the wrong conclusion of making it
51:05
worse
51:05
that’s Ron Paul people get there’s
51:09
something wrong that’s happening so when
51:10
you that’s right so triangulation that
51:13
the so-called Clinton strategy
51:14
triangulation is a strategy not just in
51:16
politics but in any situation of power
51:19
dynamics triangulation is a strategy of
51:22
entrenchment of existing power which
51:24
means if you’re already in a position of
51:25
power you triangulate yourself in order
51:28
to maintain that power for the
51:31
Libertarian Party which has maxed out at
51:33
just under three percent of the vote to
51:35
triangulate is like a mouse saying I’ve
51:38
got to conserve my power that I have
51:40
like it’s it’s it’s nonsense oh it is
51:43
dude and it’s somehow sense yeah I think
51:47
I don’t even think there’s a balance
51:49
like when people say like well we you
51:51
know you guys are the purists and you
51:54
know we’re never gonna get elected fine
51:56
but at least we’re not selling something
51:58
that’s fake right like I’d rather go out
52:01
there and actually spread the message of
52:03
Liberty get four hundred people who are
52:06
real libertarians when the thousand
52:09
people who think they are yes so no I
52:14
agree those four hundred people are
52:17
gonna fucking remain a libertine because
52:19
you can’t unlearn what you learned what
52:21
did you get it and and if you if you if
52:24
you get elected on promises that have
52:27
little to do with libertarianism now you
52:29
just have to govern like
52:31
everyone else that came you’re now
52:32
you’re like a Sentra you’re like a
52:34
you’re like a center-right Republican or
52:36
something because that’s what you now if
52:39
you go radical you’ve lied to everyone
52:41
and they will never vote for you again
52:42
so like it doesn’t make sense
52:48
Shane Sweeney says Johnny uh what would
52:51
you choose to abolish first the welfare
52:53
state or the warfare state and why oh
52:57
man I I guess I would have to go at the
53:00
warfare state first of all because if we
53:03
got rid of the warfare state then we
53:04
wouldn’t have refugees that were
53:06
responsible for taken care of because
53:08
yeah we bomb the fuck out of their
53:10
country yeah so be the first thing I
53:13
would do is get rid of the warfare state
53:15
and that’s why that would be that
53:16
priority one and that would be something
53:18
that could be handled and on a federal
53:22
level and so I think that’s requestion
53:24
shame yeah yeah actually it could
53:29
actually be handled pretty much almost
53:30
exclusively on the executive level
53:32
because even if if Congress is declaring
53:34
you have to do this stuff as you can you
53:37
can prosecute it in such a way that it’s
53:40
you know very frustrating to you know
53:42
the Hawks desire for for endless war so
53:44
no I I agree with that the other thing
53:45
to me is right now the welfare state is
53:49
built on the graves of all of the lost
53:53
opportunities that come from the
53:54
barriers to entry that have been created
53:56
by the state occupational licensing all
53:59
the fact that all taxes are regressive
54:00
because it don’t matter how rich you tax
54:02
someone they just push it down to the
54:04
consumer which is the poor and the in
54:05
the working classes so tis – if your
54:08
prime if the first thing you do when you
54:09
come into offices go alright no more
54:11
free rent for you like that I get why
54:15
that needs to happen but you first need
54:17
to eliminate the barriers to entry that
54:20
are keeping them poor in the first place
54:21
then you can get rid of that stuff right
54:24
and in the same thing with zoning laws
54:25
and ain’t no and believe that yeah
54:27
zoning laws all that stuff Building Code
54:29
like unnecessary building codes all that
54:31
stuff yeah we can get into a whole bunch
54:33
of things like we have economic policies
54:36
that have kept people poor on purpose
54:38
just the oh yeah poor yeah cuz then
54:41
actually relying on the state to take
54:43
care of them and
54:44
for they will do and then they will keep
54:47
voting for more state so they can get
54:49
more see that’s the thing it’s like it’s
54:52
the carrot with a rabbit thing you know
54:54
I mean like anymore but really you’re
54:57
not and when people want minimum wage
54:59
all it does is that’s that’s another
55:02
thing that just blows my mind I mean
55:04
this is libertarianism 101 yeah minimum
55:06
wage I mean I don’t know if you have you
55:08
probably got in this 100 times what I
55:10
mean everything else would go up
55:12
accordingly right so if I had to pay you
55:13
more
55:14
it might then everything that I my
55:16
service is provided would go up and
55:19
everyone else so it might work for maybe
55:21
a month or two where you would actually
55:24
feel the impact of that or you would
55:26
feel the benefit of it excuse me
55:28
but after a while it would even itself
55:30
out there would be in equilibrium in the
55:32
market where everyone’s prices would
55:35
have to go up but at the same time when
55:37
prices go up unemployment would go down
55:40
with with when you have increased
55:44
minimum wage so you historically when
55:48
you keep raising the minimum wage all
55:49
the people who are not getting hired are
55:52
low-skilled workers right that would
55:54
that would include people who are maybe
55:57
you know in bad areas that schooling
56:01
that you know and it really hurts the
56:04
minorities more than anything knows that
56:06
yeah yeah but I know it it
56:09
disproportionately hurts the very people
56:11
that it’s supposedly helping especially
56:13
in the era of automation so you’ve got
56:16
businesses that are looking for the very
56:18
moment that the cost of retrofitting to
56:23
fully automated or more automated is
56:25
caught more cost-effective than
56:27
continuing to just hire these people at
56:29
whatever the minimum wages that’s the
56:31
very second or just above the minimum
56:33
wage so that you get the good guy from
56:36
you know I have them at my Whole Foods
56:38
instead of at the you know Walmart down
56:40
the road or whatever but like that at
56:42
low wage labor the varies if you say $15
56:46
for most metro areas for most areas in
56:50
the u.s. that’s going to be almost an
56:52
immediate change to we’re almost
56:54
completely automating that store
56:57
immediately makes more financial sense
56:59
anyone who wants to see what really high
57:02
minimum wages looks like needs to go to
57:05
Japan and to send to Western Europe it
57:08
is hard to find anywhere where anyone is
57:12
working unless they’re already making
57:14
well above the minimum wage so your
57:17
airier to entry how your entry level has
57:19
to already be hot you have to already be
57:21
in the in the you know 1% or 5% of your
57:24
area or else you’re living on the social
57:26
safety net that is what brute minimum
57:29
wage brings us it’s an absolutely
57:30
terrible thing I wanted to ask you about
57:32
Launchpad media um yeah so you have
57:34
multiple shows on on Launchpad media as
57:37
well your own and many other was that it
57:39
was that something you intended to have
57:40
where you would have you know multiple
57:41
shows on or did that just kind of happen
57:43
naturally um you know what’s funny is I
57:47
my buddy the vice president of the
57:50
company Alexander Meyer
57:51
me and him were talking one day and he
57:53
was just like dude I have an idea mm-hm
57:56
and it’s it’s for like a podcast hub and
57:59
you know I don’t know what to call it
58:01
but I you know I think you know we were
58:04
talking about the ideas of changing
58:05
culture and libertarianism for music and
58:07
art and movies videos and a different
58:12
take and not you’re you know you’re a
58:14
typical you know I could d’emic our
58:16
academic you know podcast more like
58:19
right hey we’re having fun we’re gonna
58:20
talk about these things kind of like
58:22
what you’re doing here like we’re not
58:24
very academic you know we’re fuckin
58:26
idiots but whatever I’m speaking for
58:28
myself but like what I’m saying is we
58:30
figure we we wanted to change the
58:32
culture and we wanted a hub for this and
58:36
I said that’s a great idea and at the
58:38
time you know I had a I had an old
58:41
co-host Heather and Kurt to hook coalos
58:45
and we kind of parted ways after four or
58:48
five years and I felt like maybe it was
58:50
a new beginning for me you know like
58:53
maybe it’s time for me to cut sling load
58:55
with Johnny rocket launch pad and
58:57
actually create and use the name launch
58:59
pad for the media company always
59:02
launching ideas in your direction right
59:05
just all these different ideas and all
59:07
these different you know contributors to
59:09
go out there and actually start
59:11
spreading the ideas of liberty and it
59:12
was just kind of like this one banner
59:14
where we can all get behind and start
59:16
changing shit and hopefully influence
59:19
people and so that’s what inspired me to
59:21
start it and it was is pretty cool but I
59:25
gave up the name of my show because of
59:27
it so I kind of it was like it’s been it
59:30
was a year ago and I just remember it’s
59:33
like oh my god this is the last I had a
59:34
hundred and fifty episodes my last
59:37
episode was with Tom woods
59:38
yeah and I’m I uh I’m gonna start it all
59:40
over again I’m gonna start with episode
59:42
zero and I found raylene and we were
59:47
friends in Washington I’m like she’s
59:49
gonna be a great coast
59:50
I mean ralien and I share very similar
59:52
ideas and just about everything there’s
59:55
like one or two things that we were like
59:57
we argue about but other than that we
60:00
are like 100% like in step regarding
60:02
ideas and she’s very very influential
60:05
and very very positive and in helping me
60:09
with the show and so she was very
60:10
instrumental with helping design the new
60:13
show and so I said I I didn’t know what
60:15
they call it because I’m like the launch
60:17
pad is pretty goddamn cool Ryan we were
60:20
talking in it’s like how about blast off
60:22
and I’m like that’s kind of cool yeah
60:24
yeah yeah but Johnny Rock would be cool
60:26
instead of Johnny rocket launch pad
60:28
blast off and then we took the name for
60:30
the old show and made it the media
60:31
company the launch pad media it’s really
60:33
it’s really cool branding right so
60:35
you’ve got out for about five years you
60:37
were the launch pad well now you’re
60:38
blasting off from the launch pad and the
60:40
launch pad is also where all the show so
60:42
really I like the whole I was I had a
60:44
website design company for which was
60:46
essentially also a marketing company for
60:48
the better part of 20 years and um I
60:51
like ideas and branding that make
60:54
intuitive sense and that you don’t
60:56
really have to explain to people and I
60:58
just think it’s perfect like you got the
60:59
launch pad your shows blasted off and
61:02
now you’ve read all these other things
61:03
on the launch pad too so yeah yeah and I
61:06
love themes like I like having things
61:10
that like kind of relate you know like
61:13
so we we do a really cool thing well we
61:17
did it and we’re gonna continue to can
61:19
to do it in the future we haven’t done
61:20
it in a while but we had a show where
61:22
all the all the
61:24
board members of Launchpad media would
61:26
get together and we have a show called
61:28
Mission Control so it’s all nice yeah
61:32
yeah that’s cool so it’s cool like we
61:35
had Alexander Meier we have Rob Stratton
61:37
we have raylene we have all these people
61:39
and we sit down and discuss like what
61:41
Launchpad media is doing things in the
61:43
news and it was just us kind of like
61:46
talking about the direction of where
61:47
we’re going with the media company
61:48
that’s really good to me I just love
61:51
themes like playing off a theme
61:53
yeah it’s select so like you know
61:56
somebody was like you know you have the
61:58
Austrian libertarians you know like
62:00
people who love Mises Institute and you
62:02
know things like that what I was
62:03
thinking since we’re like in the space
62:05
and shit like that blasting off I was
62:08
thinking members of the launchpad media
62:11
could be Astro libertarians boom see
62:15
where I did there so I thought that was
62:17
kind of cool but like I love themes man
62:20
I love working with like creative you
62:22
know sticks like that so when I when I
62:26
heard Austrian and Rockets I immediately
62:28
thought Wernher von Braun and that was
62:30
not a good direction to take it’s a good
62:32
thing it’s decidedly good idea not to
62:35
have gone in that direction
62:37
no no maybe not that one but no theme
62:41
based no that’s funny man that’s great
62:44
yeah no that’s really cool so you have
62:46
had REM so Martinez on he’s been on my
62:49
show as well and he’s in fact you’re
62:52
actually going to be narrating the
62:54
audiobook version of his newest book in
62:57
that correct that’s I think that’s so
62:59
close to REM so and I done shit with it
63:02
yet and he’s gonna kick my ass but
63:04
whatever it’s have you read that book I
63:06
I have read the first one a good portion
63:10
of very first one stay away from Liberty
63:12
away from the libertarians yeah so I
63:15
have actually I’m like one of the very
63:17
few people in the world who actually has
63:20
his book and he’s like here it is start
63:22
when you’re ready and I’m like I haven’t
63:26
done it yet so I asshole I have I I read
63:30
a first draft that book is you’re gonna
63:32
love it so he was actually REM so was
63:34
briefly my sworn enemy but we’ve been
63:36
friends for like a solid
63:38
seven or eight weeks now it’s really
63:39
good but what would you say is like what
63:42
would you say is REMS OHS greatest
63:44
weakness that I can use against him if
63:45
things go south again you know I would
63:48
say that I you know I love her him so
63:50
he’s a very good person he I really
63:53
don’t want to talk bad about him because
63:55
he’s he’s been there for me and you know
63:58
pretty shitty times well I just just one
64:01
line say one thing about Renzo that
64:03
sucks is that he just can’t decide what
64:06
the fuck he is is he a Republican is the
64:09
libertarian we don’t know I don’t know I
64:13
just think I don’t know
64:15
that’s my only like that’s my only
64:17
dishonor ends oh man so that’s actually
64:19
you’ll like that that actually gets
64:21
covered somewhat in his book um because
64:24
the Toto character supposedly isn’t
64:26
about him like supposedly the the the
64:29
what’s his name something Brown isn’t
64:31
him but it’s him I mean it’s him
64:34
and that’s yeah he’s like and your voice
64:37
should be perfect for it’s like I walked
64:39
out of the bar pissed off my fucking
64:41
grandma was not the bitch in the fucking
64:43
Street you know like that’s what he
64:44
wants he wants like that that knew our
64:46
fuckin theme know it’s gonna be so I had
64:50
just read it um before having him on my
64:54
show so it was like fresh in my head
64:55
like I was literally we were in Toronto
64:56
at the time I was driving from like
64:59
downtown Toronto listening to the
65:00
audiobook I had read about halfway
65:02
through before that listening to the
65:04
audiobook I’m setting up so it’s like
65:07
fresh in my head and when he was like
65:09
yeah Johnny Rockets gonna be the the
65:11
narrator I’m like that’s fucking perfect
65:13
like that is perfect like that I
65:16
couldn’t have thought of anyone better
65:17
for it so it was it was perfect to me I
65:19
have no I don’t have any good segue for
65:22
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66:03
you are married to my last guest the
66:07
amazing wonderful just I have nothing
66:12
nothing but good things to say about
66:14
she’s just an amazing person
66:15
Kym wrong no did you hear her story did
66:18
you hear how we met we met on the show
66:21
yeah but it’s the most romantic thing
66:24
I’ve ever done in my life
66:25
okay I tell you tell me I want to hear
66:27
your version well did she did she say
66:30
anything because I would hear you guys
66:32
first no okay so it started where I was
66:35
on the show with her and like before the
66:37
show started she’s like hey you know
66:39
this is my first interview big you know
66:41
running for president and crank you know
66:44
can’t talk to you because I’m a little
66:46
nervous and oh yeah so I’m like hey
66:49
how’s it going she’s like good yeah I
66:51
just want to like make sure like what do
66:53
you want to talk about I’m like I’m just
66:54
gonna ask you some basic shit like why
66:56
the fuck your run and blah blah blah
66:57
she’s like okay well I had her on the
67:00
show we had such a hoot man she’s great
67:02
so I get up I get off the show with her
67:05
and I called my producer and I said dude
67:09
I’m gonna marry her he fight fuck you
67:13
dude fuck you no way now I’m like oh
67:16
yeah I’m gonna marry her and then I
67:18
talked to raylene after that and the
67:20
railings like did you did you notice
67:22
anything about the show she’s like that
67:23
you had a crush on her I’m like fuck
67:25
yeah I’m like I’m gonna marry her she’s
67:28
like okay whatever John whatever I’m
67:30
like no no no I’m gonna do it so then
67:32
finally like a week later I talked to
67:34
her and I said well how’d you like the
67:36
show she was like host great I really
67:38
had a great time I had so much fun and
67:40
we were it was it was hysterical it was
67:43
funny and then we started talking and
67:45
then finally we just started talking
67:46
every night from that point on for three
67:49
or four months oh wow every for about
67:52
maybe 10 hour nights it’s like I would
67:55
call her at 5 in the afternoon and we
67:57
would talk until like midnight every
67:59
night and then I finally I ended up
68:02
coming out here at seen her and um
68:05
and we hit it off even more no pun
68:07
intended
68:08
and hey and then we just ended up
68:16
hanging out hanging out and finally I’m
68:18
like let’s get married she’s like bucket
68:21
let’s do it oh my gosh so I just I just
68:24
quit my job moved out here and moved in
68:28
and we got married in April I love it it
68:31
is the quintessential libertarian love
68:34
story now when she gets elected are you
68:37
going to be her press secretary and if
68:39
not can I be your press secretary yeah
68:41
you could do that bullshit nice all
68:42
right I’m gonna be like the first
68:44
gentleman and start doing some bullshit
68:46
like firearms or some bullshit like that
68:52
like I’ll do something like my goal is
68:54
the first gentleman is to make sure that
68:57
the drinking age and every state is five
68:59
you know I suppose like make it just
69:02
ridiculous and that’d be cool
69:05
but that I would I just be like uh I’ll
69:07
just be an asshole everyone would hate
69:09
me and that’d be cool
69:11
I’d be happy with that help your ratings
69:14
and would like listens to like what
69:15
horrible thing you’re gonna say next no
69:17
I know so okay good so I’m gonna be the
69:19
press a so then you’re good no I will be
69:21
so I get so I’ve claimed it that’s not
69:24
really how it works I guess she’d have
69:25
to decide but yeah all things being
69:27
equal if she’s cool with it I want to be
69:29
the press secretary local Jews press
69:31
secretary I come I show up hi
69:34
you look a little bit more like for the
69:36
part like I look like a press secretary
69:38
right like I mean it’s show I gonna I’m
69:42
gonna like show up with a cigar and a
69:44
cigarette the cocktail fucking I don’t
69:47
know what the fuck he’s dying yeah I
69:49
don’t you know it’s funny is like we
69:52
talk all the time but we really don’t
69:54
like she we don’t really talk about the
69:57
details of her campaign I really am NOT
70:00
like pervy to all this information as a
70:01
lot of people think like what is she
70:03
doing I really don’t fuck enough and
70:05
like do I care like I do care but like
70:09
she’s doing good shit I know she’s doing
70:12
good cuz we discussed these ideas
70:14
constantly and she’s very smart and very
70:17
intelligent
70:19
she’s very principled and I give her
70:21
credit I mean like I I trust her
70:23
implicitly 100% I trust right right uh
70:26
in her decision-making I she is she is
70:29
really good and I don’t need to know it
70:31
and it’s just more bullshit for me to
70:33
get involved with I really don’t want to
70:35
deal with it because I got enough
70:36
fucking problems and I don’t want him to
70:39
be one I like I like the idea of like
70:43
when if she like you know got up it’s at
70:48
the point where she’s like to be got to
70:49
be debating Trump and I don’t know
70:51
Marianne Williamson whoever gets the
70:53
nomination on the other and you’re just
70:55
like I don’t have anything to do this I
70:56
got so many things to do they’re like
70:57
trying to interview you and like I get
70:58
so much stuff to do today leave me alone
70:59
I like I just that to me and that will
71:02
help her because everyone will feel that
71:04
everyone will feel that feeling of like
71:06
I got a lot of shit to do today to leave
71:08
me a look like it’ll be like this like
71:10
very honest motherfucker there is it
71:13
would be like what do you think of her
71:14
you know what do you think of her
71:15
campaign I really don’t know what the
71:17
fuck she’s done I’m gonna be honest I
71:18
don’t really I know she don’t get shit
71:20
okay so much to do today
71:22
I got so much shit to do I’m smoking a
71:25
cigarette like fuck you you know and I
71:28
can’t smoke in the White House you know
71:30
you’re not smoking the white dope see
71:33
that would have to change like whoever
71:34
the chief of staff is would have to
71:35
change that you’d have to be a little
71:36
smoking I don’t want to fuck up shit man
71:40
I mean like mess up the this like mess
71:44
up the drapes and stuff no no but like
71:48
I’m all about like technology and some
71:50
and cigarette smoke the only thing it’s
71:53
actually good quarters a cigarette smoke
71:55
with technology would be microphones
71:57
believe it or not real I don’t even know
72:00
if you know this know so like if you
72:03
ever hear the old microphones like back
72:06
in the day in the 40s and 50s and 30s
72:07
even everyone smoked man ever like
72:10
fucking smoking right right the tar that
72:13
gets actually in the capsule of the of
72:16
the microphone yeah actually it’s a
72:18
different tone it actually creates a
72:21
warmer set so especially with ribbon
72:25
microphones especially with the old
72:27
ribbon mics right right right but it
72:30
actually creates a layer of tar which
72:32
actually
72:32
creates a very more muted warm sound
72:36
they were the original the original pop
72:39
filters were just a bunch of like oh
72:41
dude a backhoe hash around the holy dude
72:46
exactly like but computers and anything
72:49
like technology or any of that shit man
72:51
you just ask I mean you’re just
72:53
decreasing their their lifespan by by a
72:56
lot I mean it
72:58
of course yeah yeah yeah I just don’t
73:01
yeah I just I don’t smoke in this room I
73:04
never have I write I kind of like muscle
73:07
through it and like alright I’m gonna
73:08
get this interview done that I have a
73:09
cigarette so it’s cool like that and
73:11
does the end of it you’re like shaking
73:13
like you did nicotine fix
73:15
no no yeah it’s like that’s the hardest
73:19
part of being a like a podcaster is
73:22
actually you know going an hour and a
73:24
half talking about shit oh I was a I was
73:27
a drug addict for the better part of a
73:30
decade I’ve been clean for thirteen
73:32
years now the idea that yeah the idea
73:34
then I know no one believes that when
73:37
they first they’re like you’ve done your
73:38
legs once in your life no I was Jews
73:42
don’t do drugs man no I was I was the
73:44
ultimate drug Jew I was met because that
73:47
one that I shouldn’t say that I’ll tell
73:48
you later when we’re off the air
73:49
call the show the drug Jew the drugs the
73:54
drug cheer with Spike Cohen I’ll tell
73:56
you later on in the show but I was I was
73:58
what you would expect a Jew to become if
74:00
he was doing drugs every day um but um
74:02
definitely not gonna say it on the air
74:04
but um money I I’m not gonna we can talk
74:09
about it later
74:09
but um so anyway so uh all that to say
74:13
that if someone at the time had been
74:15
like yeah you have to like talk
74:16
intelligently for two hours in a room
74:19
without doing drugs I’ve been like I’m
74:20
not doing that I’m not doing like I yeah
74:24
I’ve got I got as you drugs while I’m
74:25
doing this or that’s not gonna happen so
74:28
you know it’s funny we get in that I was
74:30
uh I was in a band for ten years and it
74:32
took me like we have those things that
74:35
we I don’t know we could we create I
74:37
think we create our own little safety
74:39
net in a sense um but yeah there was a
74:43
there was a time where I had
74:45
to be drunk to perform oh I was afraid
74:49
like everyone’s like you get nervous
74:51
when you get up on you know stage and do
74:54
a show in front of 50,000 B hundred
74:57
three hundred people right all right I’m
75:00
like yeah I have absolutely every show
75:02
it doesn’t matter if there’s ten people
75:03
in the room or there’s three hundred
75:04
yeah
75:05
four hundred I get nervous and the only
75:09
way I could deal with it was to drink
75:11
what’s the drink right yeah and if that
75:13
was my crutch for a while and in and we
75:17
all have those things that we hide
75:19
behind I think I mean I think it’s human
75:21
nature oh yeah you ever noticed that
75:23
like a lot of musicians the reason that
75:27
they play instruments is because they
75:30
hide behind oh wow if you think about it
75:33
and maybe cuz they’re like behind a
75:35
thing they’re not like out there just
75:37
holding a microphone oh wow exposed
75:41
expose so if you think about it like a
75:44
lot of musicians like that because they
75:46
feel like they’re hiding behind
75:48
something a lot of musicians like the
75:50
worst sunglasses why because they hide
75:53
behind those sunglass little tricks man
75:57
but that’s just the way the people I
76:00
think it’s a psychological thing I find
76:03
it fascinating because I want the people
76:05
I said you you play guitar like he’s not
76:08
even a good guitar player he’ll lead
76:09
singer and he plays guitar I’m like
76:10
you’re not even a good guitar it’s like
76:12
yeah but it makes me comfortable it’s
76:13
I’m it’s something in between me and
76:15
them I never really thought of that
76:17
before
76:17
I am so the drummer’s have it the best
76:20
cuz they’re almost like in a room behind
76:22
nobody fucking cares I mean like I mean
76:24
I love drum there’s like they’re fucking
76:26
awesome but never like hey man like the
76:32
drummer will just get done like doing
76:33
this kick-ass drum solo everyone’s like
76:35
fuck and then every won’t be like hey
76:38
man has the cone like yeah I’m the
76:40
drummer of the band he’s like oh I
76:41
didn’t recognize you nobody fucking
76:43
knows and like you were like in this
76:45
little like you know it’s almost like
76:46
when you’re in a kitchen and there’s a
76:48
counter here and there’s pots in pant
76:49
like no one can see you like you’re
76:51
coming back they’re like yeah no one
76:52
don’t you were not the focal point at
76:54
all because those fuckers got a no shit
76:56
and they gotta know the songs are just
76:58
as Talent
76:59
if not more than most of the band and
77:01
yet they get no love man no love and the
77:05
bass player bass player and drummers man
77:07
there was of a section dude I mean those
77:09
guys if there’s anyone who’s good at
77:11
fucking it’s the rhythm section not the
77:14
lead singer or the guitar player that
77:15
goddamn rhythm sections are good at
77:17
fucking you know there but no but your
77:19
course is it that’s they are yeah
77:23
fucking funny dude I don’t know going
77:26
off on that tangent
77:27
no that’s fine so I want to ask you you
77:29
were are you still the region one
77:31
alternate for the Libertarian Party yes
77:34
I am how long have you been a masochist
77:38
you know what’s funny man I got the they
77:43
had a meeting in Austin and I had
77:45
everything lined up my brother lives out
77:47
there I was gonna go out there and do
77:48
this thing and I had strep throat like
77:51
it was like like three or four days
77:53
before so everyone here it was like
77:55
everyone’s sick in the home everyone’s
77:58
dying the kids got fucking strep throat
78:00
everyone’s on Marxist Ilyn right I just
78:03
couldn’t make it and then luckily the
78:06
region won all the main region one
78:08
Richard long strep great dude
78:10
great principled libertarian he was just
78:13
like all right man I got you I’m going
78:15
and I’m like here’s my vote on this if
78:17
they say this vote that way and he’s
78:18
like okay noted in any actually probably
78:21
took took my opinion into consideration
78:23
but now he’s great the region one their
78:28
actual region one director of the
78:29
Libertarian Party is awesome and I’m so
78:31
proud I work with them so proud so
78:34
region one’s huge like I looked at it on
78:37
a map before it’s like it’s like the the
78:40
ninth circuit for the Supreme Court like
78:42
it’s like most of the country yeah like
78:44
nope
78:45
like that’s the thing looks like we
78:47
quite like my region because it’s just
78:49
like a lot of shit what a lamb but not a
78:51
lot of people right you know right I
78:54
believe I can’t remember it’s 12 states
78:56
I believe 11 or 12 states its massive we
79:00
have lost yeah yeah it’s gigantic
79:02
I so I it seems like the reason I said
79:05
the little masochist show it seems like
79:07
the people that are you know most of the
79:10
people not all they’re a few that
79:12
don’t seem like they’re doing much of
79:12
anything but most of the people that are
79:15
in the actual like party apparatus at
79:17
the at the state and at the LNC level it
79:18
seems like just such a thankless job
79:20
like you know you’re doing all this
79:22
stuff and you’re doing these meetings
79:24
and you know like the average
79:26
libertarian either doesn’t know doesn’t
79:28
care or a lot of them will just like
79:30
nitpick everything that you’ve done and
79:32
I’m like I’m I’m like I once paid for
79:36
membership fees for the party I don’t
79:38
even know if it’s expired or not like
79:41
that’s how involved I am on a daily
79:43
basis with with the party but I see it
79:45
on like in facebook groups and talking
79:46
to people and stuff like that it’s like
79:48
man like it just seems so thankless but
79:52
are you just you just do it because you
79:53
support what they’re doing what what the
79:55
statement of principle is and the
79:57
potential for what it could be well I
79:58
think so that I mean that’s I didn’t
80:01
even really maybe that’s a good thing
80:04
because I really didn’t want it and
80:06
somebody’s like actually the the region
80:09
one is like hey our region one Oh
80:11
alternate decided to leave and I think
80:14
you’d fit and I was like cool and so I
80:18
was like oh I guess I’ll do it I mean
80:21
like step up to the plate be the change
80:24
right I mean I’m not gonna change it by
80:26
sitting on my ass bitching about it and
80:27
so I figured hey the best thing I could
80:30
do is maybe get out there glenda voice
80:33
start telling my opinions about stuff
80:35
right right maybe even tuck into the
80:38
region one actual and in discussing
80:41
ideas and he’s like he’s great I mean
80:43
he’d like meet him or walk step on
80:46
principles and libertarianism he’s
80:48
really good and again I think it’s you
80:52
know and I support him like I’m like I’m
80:54
with you man you know if you believe
80:56
this this is your you know obviously his
80:58
vote matters all right mama but if he’s
81:02
not there and he’s sick and he has strep
81:04
throat like next time I’m making the
81:06
calls but I it is a thankless job it’s a
81:10
lot of emails mostly from what I’ve
81:12
gathered right and it’s so many emails
81:15
I’m a horrible guy cuz I don’t read them
81:18
all like I seem like right now dude I’m
81:20
not kidding you I got like five emails
81:23
already like since we’ve had the
81:25
conversation a while yeah but some of
81:30
its like so-and-so said this you know
81:33
it’s like everyone’s everyone’s doing
81:35
reply all so someone will say like okay
81:38
and then you get that and you’ve got
81:39
yeah yeah yeah it’s not feasible you
81:43
can’t look it up every second and if
81:46
there’s a vote I’ll say this is my
81:48
opinion this is why I would vote and
81:49
then the region one rep would vote for
81:52
it so like I’ll give him my input he’ll
81:54
listen to it because he’s a good man and
81:56
he’ll probably vote for me or usually he
82:00
we agree so he’ll probably vote in the
82:02
direction that we come to the conclusion
82:04
this job and again it’s like we’re the
82:08
only party I think
82:10
speaking of like the chair for some
82:13
reason the Libertarian Party has this
82:14
fascination with the chair like every
82:17
other who’s the chair of the Republican
82:19
Party I I know who it is it’s uh what’s
82:23
her name Romney’s daughter but I’m also
82:25
a nerd so like most most Republicans
82:28
have no idea yeah yeah no no no one
82:31
knows like besides like you cuz you’re a
82:33
nerd but that’s right comin her but like
82:35
libertarians did like we are fascinated
82:37
with the chair position like oh use the
82:40
leader of the libertarian no he’s not
82:41
like we are all individuals there
82:44
shouldn’t be a leader and if we have one
82:47
person representing us and all of our
82:49
opinions that is wrong you know the
82:51
chair is there to pretty much run the
82:54
meeting and right here that the go Smith
82:57
that’s it the chair shouldn’t really
82:59
even have an opinion he should be a
83:02
libertarian the beginner and if he isn’t
83:04
well then we’re like the Dodgers
83:07
there’s a problem if the quote-unquote
83:09
head of the party is not a libertarian
83:12
so I wanted to ask you your opinion and
83:14
if you don’t want to give it that’s fine
83:16
I know Kim didn’t want to talk about it
83:18
because you know she didn’t want to seem
83:19
like you know a conflict of interest
83:21
type thing or whatever but this hold $75
83:23
an hour thing with the for the person
83:26
guy so I read an article that I’m now
83:28
told was a hit piece I’ve tried
83:31
following the you know six hour well I
83:33
didn’t watch all of it but was like a
83:34
six hour long YouTube video I watched
83:36
like the 20 minutes in question what
83:39
your opinion on this on what exactly
83:41
happened there with NYX our work like
83:42
what do you think that about all that
83:45
it’s absolutely ridiculous I mean like
83:48
why no no no one in the right mind would
83:54
vote for that and it it reasonably got
83:57
shot down I mean that’s all I could see
83:59
for it but I mean that’s his job that’s
84:03
his duty you know to be the
84:05
representative of the party never be
84:07
paid to promote the party I mean it’s
84:09
great if he does I mean like if if the
84:11
party was as big as the DNC or any other
84:15
major political party there would be
84:17
that money for that you know I mean
84:19
easily yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah
84:22
just to show up hey I’m here we’re not
84:25
even in that position we’re such we’re
84:28
nothing we’re nothing I mean in in the
84:30
big in the big scheme of things we ain’t
84:32
shit but no it’s absolutely ridiculous
84:36
and no one no one gets paid like and
84:38
what am i my biggest complaints about
84:40
the L&C; is that they just require people
84:44
to go somewhere like we need you to
84:46
Florida fucking Alaska to have a meeting
84:48
like why why can we do it on skype I can
84:51
vote like why don’t we have battle is
84:54
that actually is that actually like in
84:56
some rules that you have to physically
84:58
be there or is that just the preference
84:59
that they have you know a man I wish I
85:02
could answer that question 100% but I’m
85:04
gonna because it is very they’re very
85:08
adamant about it like you showing up to
85:10
some fucking meeting and you know
85:13
usually like nine times out of ten they
85:15
will try to pick a place that’s somewhat
85:17
Pleasant you know what I mean like
85:18
they’re not gonna try to like stick in
85:20
fucking we’re gonna go easy Idaho you
85:23
know why would go there you know why
85:25
like oh here like yeah I’m going to
85:27
Sacramento for that why I could see like
85:30
a state function like uh something like
85:34
that or like something big like are you
85:37
gonna be are you gonna are you gonna be
85:38
in Florence in November for the for the
85:40
debate in South Florence South Carolina
85:42
I am definitely gonna do everything I
85:45
can to be there yeah
85:46
okay well then if you are we’ll meet
85:48
there I know Kim’s going to be there for
85:50
you drink alcohol I know I’ve been sober
85:52
for 13 years but I will watch you drink
85:54
watch more drink a drop of beer and then
85:57
you can have a water and get drunk off
85:59
of me all right I can just vibe drunk
86:02
vibe off of you that’s what I that’s how
86:03
I do it but um it’s so like something
86:06
like that makes sense but when they’re
86:07
like yeah we’re gonna have like what up
86:10
here what feels like the third meeting
86:12
this month and I’m gonna fly out and I’m
86:14
like this just seems like so much time
86:16
and money being what yeah and you’re
86:18
paying for it you have to pay for your
86:20
hotel you have to pay for the airfare so
86:22
like that’s a disqualifier a lot of
86:23
people don’t even want the job because
86:25
yeah exactly
86:26
that’s you know like who has the money
86:28
we’re libertarians I mean like we don’t
86:32
have the money we’re economists not very
86:37
smart we don’t have the state fucking
86:39
funding our shit right I mean like all
86:42
the other parties that I mean they’re
86:43
all fucking cronies you know then all we
86:45
show yeah we’re we’re paying for their
86:48
meetings yeah yeah exactly yeah exactly
86:51
like us we’re like what this clear
86:54
concern socially liberal I don’t know
86:58
that I’m saying it’s expensive you have
87:02
to actually be pretty well-off to
87:04
actually be a part of the L&C; to do it
87:06
yeah yeah it’s a great it got it
87:09
ob man you gotta have a jail B you’re
87:12
gonna have a let’s see you got a pretty
87:16
much have your own company and have your
87:18
have your workers take care of your
87:19
company while you galavant off to it
87:22
three times a month to these meetings
87:23
where you sit there and do a bunch of
87:26
stuff that you absolutely do by Skype or
87:30
hangouts or zoom or whatever like you
87:32
could easily do all of that do it I am
87:35
with you it’s time what do you think
87:37
that is that is the plan but to me that
87:39
makes sense like why do I need to travel
87:42
all the way to over here spend $400 and
87:45
then have a hotel room and of course
87:47
what do you do when you have a hotel
87:49
room you know you order pizza and then
87:51
you go down to the fucking lounge right
87:53
maybe that meaning I would but
87:55
oh you’re spent you’re spending hundreds
87:58
of dollars easily you’re probably
88:01
hitting a thousand bucks between airfare
88:03
and
88:03
and food eating out everything like cuz
88:05
you’re not going to the grocery store
88:06
and buying like a head of lettuce and
88:08
like some chicken to cook like you’re
88:10
eating out and you’re like my cutting
88:12
shit making fucking no it does that
88:16
you’re eating McDonald’s or you’re going
88:18
down with the fucking lounge you’re
88:20
going to the lounge
88:21
you’re tired from sitting in a meeting
88:22
for 12 hours you just go and get like
88:25
the most inefficient way to eat like
88:27
it’s just it’s absurd to be sweating
88:29
yeah yeah of jail be to be on the L
88:34
that’s right like that I like that how
88:36
often are you called a Nazi and or a
88:38
communist in a given day or is that just
88:40
something people say to me I get some
88:44
I’ve I’ve actually heard I’m alright
88:46
I’ve heard that I don’t know where that
88:49
came from probably because of my
88:51
two-minute hate speeches spike that does
88:54
people some of them do cuz I call out
88:57
shit I just and I it’s like a
89:00
no-holds-barred kind of thing like I
89:01
call it libertarians if I see something
89:03
that’s just fucking incredibly stupid
89:06
right we’ll call it and make a speech
89:08
about it like a two minute hate speech
89:10
and it’s usually like 5 to 6 minutes but
89:14
I read that I would listen to the one
89:17
about anyway
89:18
this seems like it’s longer than 2
89:19
minutes but I didn’t I wasn’t like on
89:21
the they always are but it sounds cooler
89:24
though like you’re like oh I just have
89:26
this you know it’s got 2 minutes of hate
89:28
for you yeah yeah I can do that but what
89:31
ends up becoming 6 or 7 minutes and
89:33
you’re like holy fuck
89:34
that was like 7 minutes long and and but
89:37
then they enjoy usually at that point
89:39
usually laughing because I say something
89:42
that’s controversial and you know but it
89:45
needs to be said I think certain things
89:47
need to be said and a lot of people you
89:50
know I usually go after spike I really
89:53
go after left-libertarians and I know
89:55
that sounds it’s actually awesome I love
89:59
it I love going after the left yeah and
90:01
even libertarians who are on the Left I
90:03
mean to me it’s like they are like
90:04
low-hanging fruit least a left knows you
90:07
know the left is brainwashed left
90:10
libertarians have at least been exposed
90:12
to our ideas and they reject me that’s
90:14
why I have no respect for them
90:16
they have been exposed to libertarian
90:19
ideas but they refused to rent is theft
90:22
the government needs to be there to make
90:23
social equality bullshit bullshit and I
90:27
go after them all time
90:28
they are my favorite target but other
90:31
than that I love my two minute hate
90:32
speech of the man I love them I love
90:34
doing them but they just require a lot
90:36
of work and you do in this podcast right
90:38
like you do this podcast
90:40
there was a probably maybe an hour or so
90:42
of prep for this podcast a lot of people
90:46
don’t understand the work that goes on
90:47
behind the scenes the OREA yeah the the
90:51
art that the show notes the links the
90:54
the actual publishing of the of the show
90:58
like an any giving show like we do an
91:01
hour show every week that show is
91:04
actually maybe an hour and a half
91:06
actually
91:06
more like two hours because we have an
91:09
hour regular show we have a prime and an
91:11
after-party and then we have an
91:12
all-nighter that what we do and I mean
91:16
for our show is usually consists of
91:18
about six to seven hours per hour yeah
91:22
because you guys have like guys for
91:25
those of you who haven’t listened to
91:27
blast off with Johnny rocket first of
91:28
all shame on you
91:29
and then second of all be sure to add
91:32
that to your list of stuff you listen to
91:34
after me um but the the level of after
91:38
me be sure to listen to me and then
91:41
Johnny rocket but when you uh don’t drop
91:43
me keep listening to me and then if you
91:47
have time you can oh did Johnny rocket
91:48
but um so I mean but but your show like
91:51
you know that’s why I joked with the
91:52
little Star Wars clip or whatever like
91:54
the the level when I when I was first
91:56
started listening I was like this is
91:59
really well put together and it was part
92:00
of what I thought when I was doing my
92:02
show I’m like all right I’m not going in
92:04
that angle but like I want it to sound
92:06
good especially for people like most of
92:08
the people that consume this show are
92:10
listening to it not watching it so I’m
92:12
big on the visual stuff but the reality
92:14
is most of the people that are into the
92:16
show might not even know what I look
92:17
like
92:18
and so I I try to make it sound good but
92:20
you have it on it I believe you when you
92:22
say it’s like a six to one ratio for
92:24
editing because oh it’s really on point
92:26
when it comes to like the sound effects
92:28
and the intro and outro and all
92:30
stuff like it’s an experience it’s an
92:32
optional experience well thank you I
92:34
really appreciate it spike but the thing
92:37
is it’s like it’s about timing it’s like
92:40
we don’t just edit just to edit like
92:43
write edit who are rhythm of let go and
92:46
like you know you listen to a lot of
92:48
podcasts like Tom woods doesn’t have
92:50
much editing I mean there is some but I
92:52
mean you listen to the show and it’s
92:53
pretty much the way it is it’s just
92:55
handle yeah that’s what it is yeah our
92:59
show is actually do it’s actually mapped
93:03
out to almost a beat yeah and I know
93:06
that sounds crazy but it’s actually to
93:09
this rhythm and I I know I can’t explain
93:13
it but there isn’t any pauses the show
93:16
is constantly moving all right yeah
93:18
exactly yeah
93:19
yeah we like to have like there is pause
93:22
but it’s pause for a fact it’s like if
93:26
you hear a pause it’s awkward it’s
93:29
intense yeah yeah yes very like whoa
93:32
what the hell happened so this did my
93:36
browser turn off yet like people are
93:38
checking their app like what yeah but we
93:42
use it intent it like everything is done
93:44
intentionally like your everything yeah
93:46
yes to the the processing the guests I
93:50
mean we spend hours just making the
93:52
guest sound good and sometimes like we
93:54
we talk to them I like a payphone yeah
93:56
it sounds like they’re you know yeah I’m
93:58
fucking Baltimore you know and they’re
94:00
talking to you I hate absent shit that
94:06
we pull through and process we try to
94:08
get rid of background noises right to
94:11
make them sound good
94:12
and it’s like the job of our show is to
94:15
make our guests sound good we really do
94:17
want to make sure that they’re
94:19
highlighted and that they feel good
94:20
about the show right hopes you know we
94:23
we could sell the ideas of what they’re
94:25
trying to sell like we really we are
94:28
there because I mean like we’re good
94:30
spokesmen for liberty but sometimes we
94:33
may not reach the same crowd that
94:35
somebody else might what I mean
94:37
right he explained something better than
94:39
what we can like I’m gonna um sometimes
94:41
the dig and that doesn’t work with every
94:44
so it’s cool to have a gas that comes in
94:46
as bed.i hi i’m very nice and I’m very
94:48
you know cordial and I’m I’m gonna
94:50
explain things in a very nice way and
94:53
and generally they’re very hardcore
94:55
libertarians but like you don’t want you
94:58
know I don’t want the message to be
94:59
diluted but there’s different messengers
95:01
with different styles oh yeah so it’s us
95:03
to make our messengers or our gas sound
95:07
really good
95:08
so hopefully that they can influence
95:10
people and they could start taking in
95:12
the ideas of libertarian right yeah so
95:15
it’s a similar thing with with our show
95:17
the muddy waters of freedom we almost
95:19
end up Matt and I almost end up good cop
95:21
bad cop
95:22
because even though we both think the
95:24
same way I’m like I have become the
95:26
radical of the show so like we’ll start
95:28
talking about and again I met Matt
95:29
agrees with me on I think I don’t think
95:31
there’s anything we disagree on but like
95:33
he’ll kind of talk about you know like
95:35
the the problems with what’s going on in
95:37
and applying libertarianism and then
95:39
I’ll be like yeah you know the second
95:41
amendment was for shooting cops and he’s
95:43
like like I mean it so we kind of feed
95:45
off of each other that way I become the
95:47
nuts one even though we’re both
95:48
essentially anarchists I’ve become like
95:51
the token
95:52
well the tokens you and the token
95:53
anarchists oh I’m like I’m feeling I’m
95:55
feeling many I’m the minority of the
95:57
show apparently which is sad cuz I’m
95:59
like I think that’s a natural
96:02
progression like yeah it is it is
96:04
raylene and i we agree like a 99.9
96:08
percent of every right screened her
96:11
before we even started the show we got
96:13
along so well we agree she was really
96:16
bubbly that’s the best way to describe
96:18
her but I’m not like well I’m kind of
96:22
bubbly but I’m not and in the same way
96:25
she is but we had a good we have a great
96:27
dynamic right here’s the thing we
96:30
disagree on like one thing where that’s
96:32
factually and it’s and I and I’m we both
96:36
agree that it should be up to the
96:37
individual whether or not they should
96:38
get a vaccine right right right
96:41
a constant thing that we’ve been talking
96:43
about for like goddamn whole year like
96:46
offline usually and it’s always like
96:48
vaccines vaccines back it she’ll be like
96:50
did you know that I’m like I’m no and
96:53
she’s anti vaccine I am Pro vaccine I’m
96:57
not
96:58
saying that like I think that people
97:01
should be forced to get one I’m just
97:04
right right I think it’s a good thing
97:06
was worth way they work yeah yes
97:10
historically they work and but then she
97:13
gets into these chemicals but it’s funny
97:15
but it’s like I’m not knocking her
97:16
because I mean she is very very adamant
97:19
about her belief system at night right
97:21
we knew what I knew and I’m like I
97:24
really don’t want to know what you know
97:25
you know and so that’s where we depart
97:27
but that’s what’s cool like that’s the
97:30
right and I think it’s part of our like
97:33
natural progression I mean if we all
97:36
agreed this world would be boring you’d
97:38
suck we need but if we can all get at
97:41
least get behind the fact that we should
97:43
have less state we’re on to something
97:46
why don’t we start working if we can
97:48
agree on I’m not going to vote to have
97:52
someone point a gun at you and make you
97:55
live how I want you to live if you also
97:58
not if but and you can also not do that
98:01
to me we can stop using but none of us
98:04
have the right to point a gun at someone
98:06
and say you have to live your life the
98:08
way I want which things were unable
98:09
which means we are unable you can’t
98:12
delegate a right you don’t have so if I
98:14
don’t have the right to do that to you
98:15
then I can’t delegate that power to
98:18
someone else that’s theft so if we can
98:21
all agree on that as a basic thing which
98:23
when they say that to someone it
98:25
intuitively makes sense
98:26
should I be able to point a gun at you
98:28
and make you do stuff no should I be
98:29
able to but get together a group of
98:32
people and we come to your house and say
98:33
we’re all pointing guns at you and you
98:35
have to do stuff no no course it and
98:37
that’s listening and I think if we just
98:39
all agree on that the rest I mean we all
98:41
have preferences so right exactly we all
98:43
have perfect yeah vaccines don’t get
98:45
them if you do I mean that’s a hot topic
98:48
right now like we don’t hear it yeah
98:49
it’s very hot topic doesn’t matter
98:51
because I don’t really even think it’s a
98:53
libertarian issue again I think it’s
98:55
more or less on the on the unless on the
98:57
side of choices the issue that’s the
99:00
political issue yeah the rust is just
99:02
opinion and you know what website who
99:06
went to first really it boils down to
99:08
what did you believe at one point and
99:10
did it’s the
99:12
at what point you know like again we all
99:15
have opinions and they change constantly
99:17
I mean I have changed my opinion on
99:20
quite a bit of things yeah um certain
99:22
things I just don’t have an opinion on
99:24
and I don’t think I ever will like
99:26
another big one is abortion spike what’s
99:30
your opinion on it so I don’t I’m not
99:31
the host but I’m just asking you
99:34
personally so my opinion is and I bet
99:36
this is actually something that has has
99:38
changed quite a bit I used to be I would
99:40
have considered myself pro-life I
99:42
consider myself pro-life when personhood
99:45
starts and I think that it is up to
99:47
families and individuals to decide for
99:49
themselves when personhood starts and I
99:51
realize that that’s going to lead to
99:52
outcomes that I don’t like but that’s
99:54
the reality of life and if I were to try
99:57
to impose my idea of win personhood
100:00
starts which I’m not even fully sure I’m
100:03
not even fully sure but if I were to sit
100:05
down with the science and go it starts
100:07
at this very moment and I were to
100:09
enforce that against anyone more harm is
100:11
going to be done by me harm forcing
100:14
people into that than by allowing
100:16
individuals and families to decide that
100:19
that you know when that starts I am not
100:22
in favor of Planned Parenthood being
100:24
funded by taxpayer dollars I am not in
100:26
favor of of any of that if people want
100:29
to do pro-life rallies out in front of
100:32
planned parent that’s fine with me if
100:33
they want the people to me that I
100:35
respect the most in the entire debate
100:37
are the people that stand out in front
100:38
of abortion clinics not to slut-shame
100:42
people and say you’re Lauren you’re
100:43
murdering your kid but people who go hey
100:45
you know what if you choose to do this
100:47
that’s your choice I’d like to present
100:49
you with the possibility that we can
100:52
help you we can set you up with
100:54
resources voluntary resources if you
100:56
choose maybe to place the child for
100:58
adoption we’ll help you through that
100:59
process
101:00
whatever you choose to do we’re here for
101:02
you that to me that’s beautiful that’s
101:05
actually very smart yeah I’m with I kind
101:08
of I fall in the same camp it’s just
101:12
like who are we to decide one life
101:16
begins I don’t know I don’t know I’m not
101:18
a doctor I’m not a scientist well I do
101:21
know is sometimes I would ear me
101:24
personally
101:25
I might ear on the side of being safe
101:28
saying yeah I don’t know when it begins
101:30
right right right I can’t make that
101:32
decision for them I do ultimately
101:34
believe it’s their decision it’s their
101:36
body I would you know I don’t I don’t
101:40
know if there’s a right or wrong answer
101:41
because I think both sides are correct
101:43
you know like it just depends on what
101:45
what what side you’re coming at it what
101:47
we’re talking a valid point yeah and I
101:51
think it’s almost up to the king it’s
101:53
almost a community standard thing
101:55
because maybe if you live in town a that
101:58
you know hates it and then you got a Tom
102:01
B who’s like parking do whatever you
102:03
want but the only problem I have with it
102:05
if you do make it completely illegal is
102:08
that you create a black market zakat and
102:11
that’s yeah you do more harm the good
102:13
people who don’t want to be pregnant are
102:16
going to not be pregnant is it going to
102:20
happen in theirs too to ensure that are
102:25
they going to is it gonna be because
102:26
they give birth and then just leave it
102:30
in a dumpster like I mean that these are
102:31
like these are serious consequences of
102:34
what we’re talking about
102:34
I believe life go ahead no I think it’s
102:38
a tough thing but again I I think both
102:40
sides are correct yeah I mean it depends
102:43
on what side you’re arguing for because
102:45
if you’re if you’re fighting for life
102:47
right you know they have a justifiable
102:50
argument that like they believe in their
102:53
heart in mind that life begins at
102:55
conception conception yeah yeah right
102:57
and there’s nothing wrong with that like
102:58
that’s a valid yeah like it it I mean
103:01
you can’t deny that maybe it does that’s
103:05
what they believe I’m a natural rights
103:07
libertarian I believe that we have no
103:09
all right right I mean I’m right but
103:12
that’s what I believe right
103:14
and the people who believe it’s the
103:16
woman’s choice that’s her body they’re
103:19
also correct so I again I don’t think
103:23
there will ever be an answer to this
103:24
problem and again we should just get the
103:27
state out of it it should have to do
103:29
with this yeah yeah let let people on a
103:32
family or an individual level and are
103:36
the individuals to make that decision
103:38
and what
103:39
a decision they make they have to live
103:41
with it yeah and that’s the thing
103:43
science tells us that life actually
103:46
begins at conception it is a it is a
103:48
life it has its own DNA that’s not in
103:50
dispute where the argument comes is when
103:53
is it an actual person that has its own
103:54
rights and dad’s feelings and has a
103:58
heartbeat and it has can feel pain
104:01
it has sentient sand all of that stuff
104:03
and and and and the is similar to the
104:06
age of consent debate no one actually
104:08
there is no consensus on this or is no
104:11
right answer on that but everyone wants
104:13
to argue really heavily about something
104:16
that no one agrees on no one can come to
104:18
a consensus on win personhood begins why
104:21
would we not it’s yeah you know what
104:24
spike you know I always make this point
104:25
and I and a lot of people just always
104:27
think we’re gonna go in the opposite of
104:29
the the the horrible direction a lot of
104:32
people like well most people you know
104:33
back in the medieval times people had
104:36
sex for twelve
104:37
ba-ba-ba-ba trying to say go in the
104:39
opposite direction let’s just say we
104:41
left it up to local communities right
104:43
who’s the saying that most people know
104:47
that like once you’re probably around 25
104:49
is when you actually kind of have your
104:51
brain fully developed which is true
104:54
which is fucking true I mean I’ve met
104:57
some 18 year-olds I can still have no
104:59
business making big decisions yes
105:00
exactly leave that shit alone what I’m
105:04
saying is what if communities went in
105:06
the completely opposite direction and
105:08
said 25 baby in this fucking town and
105:11
they loud in this town in this HOA if
105:15
you would have sex 25 25
105:19
like that could be like what I’m saying
105:22
is everyone always thinks it’s gonna be
105:24
less restrictive in a libertarian
105:26
Society all of these things that we
105:28
think you know it very well could be
105:31
there would be a lot of things that
105:33
would be lost restrictive but there’d be
105:35
a lot of things that could be very
105:36
restrictive
105:37
you know if acharyas in a ring in
105:39
specific areas if you yeah if you have
105:43
private property rights right let’s just
105:45
say you live in an HOA which is a
105:46
voluntary government right or governance
105:50
right cuz you voluntarily join
105:52
Hoa right no worst you right now there’s
105:57
some like legalese in there and you
105:59
could like move into an area and it can
106:00
be absorbed or you know absorbed into an
106:03
HOA and then there there could be some
106:05
debate there but like if you go into one
106:08
no we have full and well your anyone
106:10
there yeah yeah you agree to the terms
106:12
man it’s on you it’s on you and it could
106:15
be a lot more restrictive than what we
106:17
have now yeah so living in a free
106:19
society a lot of people don’t even
106:21
realize when we say a free society we
106:23
mean a private property society and if
106:26
we have a private property private law
106:29
society that things would change it
106:31
actually could become more restrictive
106:33
if you are drinking and driving in that
106:36
owner of a road let’s say we have a
106:38
roads now owned by private individuals
106:41
and that individual was driving down the
106:44
road trying to loosen loosen his load
106:46
he’s got worlds of trouble on his mind
106:47
right and he’s drunk off his ass instead
106:51
of like going to jail you may not be
106:54
able to drive on that road Nate let’s
106:56
just say the only road that goes to your
106:58
job you would lose your job and it could
107:02
be more you may not go to jail but you
107:04
could you could live in a harsher
107:06
environment or yeah you have to you know
107:08
get a cab or a taxi to get to your job
107:12
yeah now and all of a sudden you have
107:14
more financial struggles cousins on your
107:17
end so it could be more restrictive and
107:19
that’s what I’m trying to say is a lot
107:21
of people just think you guys want
107:22
anarchy actually no I think in a lot of
107:24
ways I think for our society or cultural
107:27
or a free society to work it would
107:29
actually be more restrictive and it
107:31
might be even more conservative in some
107:34
regards like you may not go to jail for
107:36
doing shit but you may not get a job
107:39
there’d be other things that could
107:42
hinder your success in life there is
107:45
real life consequences for antisocial
107:47
behavior and and and free means we are
107:51
free to associate freely
107:53
it doesn’t mean effort we can just run
107:55
around and have no consequence to their
107:59
act it’s not freedom from consequences
108:01
there may be enough of a demand for Rowe
108:03
for an area where everyone can
108:06
get drunk and high on the roads and
108:08
drive around and smash into each other
108:09
that that effort that the people that
108:11
want to do that move there and the
108:13
people in those areas who are like yeah
108:14
no I want to be able to make it home
108:16
without being hit by five cars because
108:18
everyone’s high they move somewhere else
108:20
people will be able to you know you’ll
108:22
have all of these different little mini
108:23
laboratories federalism taken to the
108:26
individual scale of let people make
108:28
their individual choices and then see
108:31
the consequences of how it plays out
108:33
with everyone in free association where
108:34
if they go oh you know what this
108:35
wouldn’t work let’s not do this anymore
108:37
there aren’t laws in place forcing us to
108:40
have to remain that way and that’s yeah
108:43
I am dude 100% your name on it
108:45
and I mean you’re right and that’s the
108:47
thing a lot of people just don’t
108:49
understand that it very well could be
108:51
more conceal or restrictive and anyway
108:54
just I think realize like we’re not
108:58
Libertines for libertarians and there
109:01
could be a community of libertine oh
109:03
absolutely yeah and you’re that right to
109:05
be like everyone could be fucking
109:07
everyone you know whatever
109:09
that’s third but that’s not maybe what I
109:11
want am i right right no I can this is
109:13
so see ya and I could say those people
109:16
are weird and it doesn’t mean that
109:18
they’re bad or evil I just don’t agree
109:20
with them and I’m not gonna create
109:21
legislation or attack them to harm more
109:24
yeah yeah cause war declare war on them
109:27
because I don’t like their ideas I just
109:29
may not support them may not go to their
109:31
stores may not shop at their place and
109:34
and maybe if they’re in the wrong town
109:37
or the wrong cult cuz you know look at
109:40
the United States man I mean if you live
109:42
in Florida and or you live in California
109:45
there are two different completely
109:47
different cultures if you live in the
109:49
panhandle of Florida versus South
109:51
Florida you live in a two disparately
109:54
different call imeem it there’s the
109:55
night yeah different give me countries
109:57
yeah yeah exactly
109:59
West Virginia and Virginia to different
110:01
countries to different areas I mean that
110:03
was really I mean historically we were
110:05
talking earlier about like the Articles
110:07
of Confederation the Constitution show
110:08
like that yeah but if you look at the
110:10
whole idea of the state was the state of
110:13
Alabama or the state of Massachusetts
110:15
the state of planning they were a state
110:17
that was a state like that was like the
110:20
state of
110:20
France right the out was the country
110:22
that was the actual country the nation
110:24
yeah yeah and that had its own rules had
110:27
its own ideas had its own culture to put
110:30
everything under a one-size-fits-all
110:32
thing doesn’t make any sense to me again
110:35
like look at Washington State look at
110:37
Washington DC same name but different
110:40
fucking cultures totally two different
110:42
things they may both be liberal but
110:45
they’re liberal in different way
110:46
completely different ways it completely
110:48
different cultures even within DC you go
110:51
to a place like we have a home in
110:53
Toronto there are in the same
110:56
neighborhoods different distinct
110:58
communities all because it’s the amount
111:01
of hyper immigration that’s happening in
111:03
in Toronto which is like the the the
111:05
business and and and an economic hub of
111:08
of of Canada Toronto is like New York DC
111:12
and Los Angeles and Chicago all in one
111:15
and so everyone’s going there and the
111:18
levels of different literally from block
111:21
to block the idea that this is all you
111:23
know one nation no it’s not and no one’s
111:26
for everyone oh we’re all Canadians and
111:29
we’re all the same no one actually
111:31
thinks that they say it because they’ve
111:33
been conditioned to believe that’s the
111:34
virtuous thing to say but no one
111:35
actually lives that way no one is
111:38
actually living as though we’re all the
111:40
same people and it’s learned it’s the
111:42
same thing here a great example is like
111:45
Las Vegas right my mom lived out there
111:48
for a couple years and I went out visit
111:51
her and you’d have like one block which
111:53
would be like really yuppie rich area
111:56
right right walk one more block over and
111:59
then you’re in ghetto right and you’d
112:01
walk another block down the road and
112:03
then you’re in rich beautiful homes
112:05
right right right
112:06
like and you’re back in the ghetto again
112:08
it didn’t make any sense yeah I don’t
112:11
it was it was constructed or centrally
112:14
planned that way no ghetto goes here and
112:19
here and here yeah yeah yeah the poor
112:22
people here on this block and we need
112:23
the rich Beulah no it didn’t work out
112:25
that way you just kind of naturally
112:27
progressed happen it’s like a it’s like
112:29
a path and a mountain right like nobody
112:31
likes that you know what we should do is
112:33
we need a row
112:34
that goes exactly through this area no
112:36
paths were created because of the path
112:39
of least resistance that’s half limb and
112:41
ground on a ground area that’s easy to
112:44
navigate or circumcircle navigate right
112:47
that’s the reason why people go that way
112:49
because it’s the easiest route it’s
112:51
human nature where I take the path
112:53
resistance right right fascinating like
112:57
human nature and how that like kind of
112:59
relates and you can like tie all this
113:01
back in economics you know like that’s
113:03
the beauty behind it and it’s very it
113:06
sounds like complicated but it really
113:08
isn’t if you don’t cut out human nature
113:11
that’s what economics is really it’s a
113:13
study of human action human nature yeah
113:15
and what we’re what we do like with all
113:17
things being equal this is what would
113:19
happen and really a beautiful a
113:22
beautiful science or so yeah absolutely
113:26
it is a social side economics is the
113:29
intersection of human nature and math
113:31
and and that’s really what it is like it
113:34
I wouldn’t agree if you’re an Austrian
113:36
you wouldn’t say that necessarily okay
113:38
because Austrians don’t necessarily
113:40
believe in like math knack mathematics
113:43
and charts like you would look at like
113:45
maybe Chicago School would use that but
113:48
Austrians like me seein Austrian
113:51
economists would not they would just use
113:54
deductive reasoning
113:55
they wouldn’t even use charts and graphs
113:57
right and and and what I mean is that
114:01
the math part is that we are applying
114:03
our nature and our subjective value and
114:06
using currency so not necessarily the
114:08
chart part of it but that we’re we’re
114:10
taking this means X to me I’m going to
114:13
use this amount of of this you know
114:15
currency or my labor or whatever so the
114:18
math part is more the metrics of how we
114:20
end up measuring what things are worth
114:23
so I mean ya know it’s definitely a
114:24
social science though and speaking of
114:27
social sciences of course you and I are
114:29
both going this is a terrible segue you
114:31
and I are both going to be models for
114:33
the libertarian dad bod calendar and
114:36
it’s very something like Shane fucking
114:39
suckered me into this one but yeah I’m
114:41
doing it I told them when they came to
114:44
me I said listen I’m not a member of the
114:48
turian party and i’m not a dad but the
114:51
world needs this body and so i’m it is
114:55
what it is and so I’m gonna be mr. April
114:58
my theme is gonna be April showers I
115:00
don’t know if we’re gonna have themes
115:01
but that’s my theme I mean is that know
115:06
so maybe I should change it cuz that’s
115:07
what people are gonna think oh I’m doing
115:10
this I’m doing a swim shit I’m gonna put
115:12
on swim trunks and go out to the beach
115:13
and me and my friend that’s a
115:15
professional photographer we’re gonna
115:17
recreate swimsuit edition shots for me
115:20
like I’m gonna be able to water on me
115:22
and I’m like uh you know it was funny as
115:24
I picked May because it’s my birth month
115:27
so I’m right after you buddy all right
115:30
I’m really excited about it because it
115:32
is going to a good cause the South
115:35
Carolina Libertarian Party is great I
115:37
think they’re one of the best what am i
115:39
yeah they’re like my favorite
115:42
it’s my state so I’m probably somewhat
115:44
biased but they’re they’re killer
115:46
they’re hitting on all cylinders you
115:48
know I have a lot of good friends out
115:49
there and I noticed that I have a lot of
115:52
like-minded people in the South Carolina
115:55
Libertarian Party and I just think
115:57
they’re really good people and I also
115:59
have to acknowledge my my my hometown
116:02
party Washington State is a great
116:05
Libertarian Party also so I have to say
116:07
I’ve seen a lot of libertarian party’s
116:09
I’ve been around a little bit and I’d
116:10
really have to say I really like cats at
116:13
South Carolina or South cackle akha and
116:15
Washington State I think are really good
116:18
organs pretty good and you know there’s
116:22
some states I just I don’t know really
116:24
too much about them I think Colorado is
116:26
good I have never been to a convention
116:28
I’ve heard though they can fucking tear
116:30
shit up and they’re pretty good too so
116:32
but I’m just saying I know South
116:35
Carolina has good people there ya know
116:37
they absolutely do so if you can just
116:39
take a moment to explain to the folks
116:42
watching and listening exactly how much
116:43
they need to have high-definition photos
116:46
of our bodies in their homes okay so if
116:49
you really like Liberty and you want to
116:52
support Liberty by a calendar where
116:56
we’re exposing our junk maybe in boxers
116:59
or doing something
117:01
inappropriate of some sort and really
117:03
nobody you couldn’t even give these
117:05
pictures away to most people but you’re
117:09
doing it for the right reasons these
117:10
would be like unsolicited photos in
117:13
someone’s inbox it’s just horrible shit
117:15
man
117:16
like really nobody wants to see guys
117:18
like us naked or even partially naked
117:20
even partially naked even halfway
117:22
clothes I mean people might even pay us
117:26
to put our clothes back on so I mean
117:29
there’s a thing that’s actually you know
117:31
what that might be what happens is
117:33
people go I know please put your clothes
117:34
back on
117:35
I like it nursers away for free for
117:38
twenty bucks i button this back up $20
117:41
to take it away there we go now we’re
117:45
thanking god I like that I like that
117:48
like I show up with like this shirt
117:50
completely open and I’m like alright
117:51
five bucks to rebut inthis button
117:54
alright ten buck ten that’s funny it
117:57
it’s like the Captain Crunch commercial
117:59
you know remember Captain Crunch sorry
118:02
Cap’n Crunch Cap’n Crunch
118:04
Cap’n Crunch took his hat off really and
118:10
everyone like keep that because he has
118:14
like weird fucking shit
118:15
God his shit was all nuts I don’t
118:18
remember that was that like in the 80s
118:20
or something I know you should have been
118:22
around for that you might have been like
118:24
five I was probably I was probably a kid
118:26
I’ll have to look that up absolutely
118:27
need it was probably like mid to
118:30
eighties mid the ladies yeah so I was
118:34
like I was a kid okay nevermind but it
118:37
was good that is funny
118:38
that is funny so we have a question from
118:41
a longtime follower named Kim ruff she
118:44
asked what is your opinion on Captain
118:47
Marvel oh fuck thanks babe okay about
118:58
the okay I have two I have two opinions
119:00
on but she knows damn well my opinion is
119:03
Larry’s cuz now she’s gonna make me song
119:06
a dick my opinion on cap tomorrow I you
119:10
know
119:11
I think it’s forced I think the movie
119:14
Captain Marvel in the MCU was an
119:17
absolutely forced movie it didn’t need
119:20
to be there I think the hero lacks
119:22
substance even the comic-book character
119:25
wasn’t even that good not because you
119:28
know it they’re just to me it’s the
119:31
Marvel Cinematic Universe which I
119:33
absolutely adore in life our try force
119:37
and agenda and I have no problems with
119:40
all these characters that have been
119:42
around forever but the only probably I
119:44
never had a problem with the character
119:45
in the comic books cuz she was a female
119:47
she was Miss Marvel before that and I
119:49
liked the character she was cool with
119:51
Carol Danvers was really cool it just
119:53
seemed it the character that the way
119:56
they portrayed her it was the psyche we
119:59
need a woman superhero and blah blah
120:01
blah and it was just like you didn’t
120:03
need to do that you didn’t need to pull
120:05
the movie off the way that they did
120:07
really like I loved female superheroes
120:11
like I love nobody bitches about Black
120:13
Widow she is badass I would I am looking
120:16
forward to seeing her movie why because
120:19
she’s a good character
120:20
she wasn’t created to have a female
120:23
presence in the Marvel Cinematic
120:24
Universe no she’s just been there and
120:28
she’s great the actress who plays her
120:30
plays are wonderfully I like the
120:32
dynamics of the character I have no
120:35
problem with that character I have a
120:37
problem with Miss are Captain Marvel
120:39
because I think it was it was a movie
120:41
that they felt that they can push an
120:45
agenda a social agenda and a lot of the
120:48
things in that movie would just made me
120:50
cringe it absolutely made me cringe I’m
120:53
like really goddammit
120:55
really you had to fuck up this movie
120:57
just to push a social agenda so that’s
121:01
my opinion on that movie okay comes
121:05
enough so that Kim Seok Kim now you know
121:07
if you didn’t know before I said this
121:11
like we watched the movie and we got in
121:13
the car she’s I really liked it I
121:14
thought it was good it was entertaining
121:15
I’m like hmm she’s like what’s wrong you
121:19
didn’t like that scene did you I’m like
121:21
no I didn’t I knew you didn’t like
121:24
that’s it I’m like
121:24
yeah I made a fucking noise like really
121:26
loud in the movie really you know so
121:31
it’s very frustrating yeah but yeah now
121:35
I didn’t like the movie and again like a
121:37
venture cent game I love that fucking
121:39
movie I thought it was great a lot of
121:40
people like it’s boring but there was
121:43
that one scene did you see Avengers
121:44
endgame I haven’t seen it yet but I’ve
121:46
had it explained to me that she kind of
121:48
comes in as like this deus ex machina
121:50
character where it’s like you know
121:52
everything saved now because Mary Sue is
121:55
here and everything’s gonna be fixed and
121:57
it was like no but there was this one
121:59
shot man it was just like the whole
122:01
movie was great
122:02
but then they had to put this one shot
122:05
in and it didn’t make any sense
122:07
it was just like forced there was a
122:10
scene where everyone scattered on a
122:11
battlefield right and then all of a
122:14
sudden Captain Marvel comes out right
122:16
and then every female character was like
122:20
shown back-to-back like and they like
122:24
they were scattered five seconds ago
122:27
and now they’re all together but now all
122:30
of a sudden miraculously they’re all
122:33
together in one spot and we’re gonna do
122:35
a highlight montage of all the women and
122:38
the girl power that they purred it’s
122:40
like I don’t have a problem with strong
122:42
female characters right but what was the
122:44
point of that yeah guys you just fucked
122:47
up a cool scene just to push some
122:50
fucking narrative down our throats sorry
122:53
I’m gonna say it you pushed a fucking
122:55
narrative down our throats it’d be like
122:58
if all of a sudden every racial minority
123:00
just happened to me yeah good no I was
123:03
just gonna say I was just saying it
123:04
would be like if every if all of a
123:06
sudden every racial minority just all
123:08
popped up in the same area and like
123:10
we’re here like like if Black Panther 2
123:14
comes out and then like there would be
123:16
every black person ever in the MCU in a
123:18
shot and what a shot yeah yeah like one
123:21
shot like lined up here’s like why but
123:25
they weren’t even in the same room and
123:27
now they are like it doesn’t make any
123:29
sense so to me it was just it was just
123:31
again it’s forced it’s again it’s it’s
123:34
just – they think that they have to
123:36
please people of
123:38
ethnicity and race their ethnicity and
123:41
sexism all the sudden and lifestyles
123:44
they have to have gay characters just
123:46
write a goddamn good story I don’t write
123:48
the shit if the characters gay black
123:50
Chinese it doesn’t matter just write a
123:53
good write a good story you can have gay
123:55
black and Chinese Pete you can have a
123:57
gay black Chinese person but make it an
123:59
organic thing don’t make this force like
124:01
I’m gay black Chinese guy yes oh but
124:05
that’s the thing and like what they like
124:07
the MCU is what they’re doing right now
124:09
is it does irritate people because I’m a
124:12
long time advocate and reader of Marvel
124:14
Comics and I’m like I’m all for change
124:16
I’m not like anti change but like I grew
124:19
up knowing certain characters as a
124:21
certain way like if black panther if
124:25
Marvel decided one day that we’re gonna
124:28
make black panther a white guy what
124:32
would happen right just throwing it out
124:34
there for what would happen people would
124:36
be pissed saying that the racist how
124:39
dare they change shit why why would they
124:42
be met because there’s a change that
124:44
goes against what like I would be mad
124:46
because Black Panther in the comic books
124:48
ever since the beginning of the
124:49
character he’s been a black guy and he
124:52
was the king of Wakanda and he’s the
124:54
bright would make it would make no sense
124:55
right right right sense like I love the
124:59
character one of my favorite characters
125:01
actually I’ve been Kim knows all about
125:04
this is Luke Cage I love Luke Cage and I
125:07
love Iron Fist one of my favorite
125:10
characters and I’ve actually been
125:11
reading like all of the 1970s comics of
125:14
Luke Cage I love the character I love
125:17
Luke Cage he’s cool as fuck one of my
125:19
heroes
125:20
but if they made him white I would be
125:22
upset but what they’re doing in Marvel
125:24
now in the movies is they’re taking
125:26
people who are white and making them
125:29
Asian or black or whatever just so they
125:32
have diversity to me it’s like no the
125:35
character that we grew up on and knew
125:38
was this ethnicity and had this kind of
125:41
personality or whatever that’s fucked up
125:44
don’t change it just to appeal to you
125:48
know social pressures Morais I mean
125:50
right try
125:52
you’re you’re taking create a good
125:54
character it doesn’t matter if they’re
125:55
white black or whatever you’re a good
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character they’re gonna stand on their
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own merit
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right exactly we’re actually gonna we
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actually got a comment from tube fire
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who said I don’t know if this is true or
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not they they said Captain Marvel
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started off as a black woman but she got
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whitewashed it’s so racist I don’t know
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if that’s true
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Captain Marvel the original Captain
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Marvel was a character in the comic
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books was a white guy okay Monica
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Rambeau was a black Captain Marvel
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completely different scenario Monica
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Rambeau was a another character she took
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the mantle of Captain of Captain Marvel
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she was great she was part of the
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Avengers and that was a totally
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different storyline that she took her
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character off in a different direction
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um but no she was cool they had I had no
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problems with that she was and in the in
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the Captain Marvel movie Monica Rambeau
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was a young girl in the Marvel Universe
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so they tried to pay homage to that
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young the black character well I have no
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problems with that so but technically
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Captain Marvel was originally Oh Miss
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Marvel well she started off as Miss
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Marvel but I believe he may be correct
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that Monica Rambeau was one of the very
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first Captain Marvel’s that is correct
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okay cool yeah so it sounds like this is
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going to be this is gonna work well for
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you so we’re gonna do a segment that
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I’ve just recently introduced called
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final my fellow Americans okay which is
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where I I ask a series of short
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questions I give you 30 seconds which is
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nowhere near enough time to answer it’s
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it’s like rocket fire it’s similar but
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okay it’s similar I’m not gonna say it’s
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like it I’m gonna say it’s similar to it
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the difference is that I don’t give you
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anywhere near enough time to answer this
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that’s part of it but so we’re gonna put
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30 seconds on the clock I am going to
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name each of the libertarian
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presidential candidates and you tell me
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the first comic book character that pops
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into your mind so you let me know when
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you’re ready and we’ll get started first
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comic book character the puffers comic
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book
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mom’s here mind just first thing this is
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one of those like Rorschach tests things
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like the first thing that you think of
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so we’re gonna start right now
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good luck Adam kokeshi
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gambit oh okay
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Arvin Vora Professor X Oh Ben letter
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leader venom Dan Berman spider-man John
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McAfee Doctor Octopus I like that I
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really let these are made these are
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great Vermin Supreme The Joker sir you
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wouldn’t I love all the Kim ruff final
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final one Kim ruff Phoenix yes yes
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literally lives in Arizona and
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everything yep that is the most
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successful final my fellow Americans in
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the history of this program the second
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the second best one was actually so the
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second best one I have to actually I
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probably need to say that your wife did
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very well because she III had I named
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all of the libertarian presidential
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candidates and she had to name a
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Simpsons character she said that they
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were all comic-book guy that was a good
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answer
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Renzo Martinez I gave him 30 seconds to
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give the libertarian argument for voting
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for Donald Trump and he gave this in
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crazy stream-of-consciousness about um
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that didn’t made no sense at the end he
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was literally just throwing out
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multi-syllable words like
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antidisestablishmentarianism like it was
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you have you are now the the winner of
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my fellow of a final my element that was
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venom
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the first thing about land I just I have
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no idea
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no that was all of those repair net
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course Kim was perfect she’s even she’s
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literally in are you guys in Phoenix
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you’re in Arizona we are right outside
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of Phoenix I mean we’re not like we
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could throw up throw a couple stones and
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maybe hit the border road right we’re
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the same kind of we’re not very far at
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all and she’s got the red hair she’s
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Natalie Phoenix she is Phoenix
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she is my I love it those were all great
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answers so Johnny I have had an absolute
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blast having you on I’m so happy that
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you came on I can’t wait to tell you my
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do drug story when we go off the air but
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I so I just want to give you a chance
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before before I let you go any final
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thoughts that you want to give anything
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that you thought we didn’t get a chance
131:10
to talk about any upcoming stuff that
131:12
you want to plug any events you want to
131:14
plug anything about your show you want
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to plug anything you want to talk about
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you have as much time as you want Johnny
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rocket the floor is yours
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um no I again thank you spike I really
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appreciate you having me on the show man
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yeah if anything guys if you if you want
131:30
to check out some really great podcast I
131:33
recommend that you do check out besides
131:35
the show after this show after the show
131:39
go check out Volvo launchpad Mediacom we
131:43
have some great shows out there we have
131:45
the last night errs we have postcards
131:47
from Somalia we have sounds like liberty
131:50
we have actual Anarchy or excuse me
131:53
educated anarchy we have drunken
131:56
disorderly and blast off a Johnny rocket
131:59
and even nice guys finish free with Alex
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Merced so we have some great shows we’ve
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got some great writers please check them
132:06
out or great shows they’re really fun I
132:08
wouldn’t have had them on if they are
132:10
not great yeah and what else um I guess
132:13
and if you do like our show and if you
132:15
do listen to it check us out at support
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blast off comm again that’s support
132:21
blast off comm and I just had a great
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time spike and thank you so much for you
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know having me on and again I’m gonna
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plug my wife I go to
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Philips 2000 ruff Philips 2020 calm and
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she is absolutely amazing
132:37
she’s well-spoken well-versed knows her
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shit principled and she’s you know I
132:43
honestly I want to say that she is she’s
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the most pragmatic radical I have ever
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met
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yeah I don’t even know please can even
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be put together but somehow she pulls it
132:55
off and it’s in its its principle all
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together at the same time ya know she’s
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absolutely incredible I’m gonna plug my
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wife after this um but um so guys thank
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you again yeah yeah you know what I’m
133:08
talking about
133:08
so so guys thanks again for tuning into
133:13
my fellow Americans be sure to tune in
133:15
tomorrow
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oh no don’t turn in tomorrow because
133:18
Matt Wright is still in Ohio so there
133:21
will be no episode of the writer’s block
133:24
tomorrow but do be sure to tune in
133:26
Friday for the Shabbat episode of mr.
133:29
merica to the beard of truth with Jason
133:31
Lyon then have a great weekend maybe
133:33
over the weekend you can listen to some
133:34
of the launchpad media stuff but then
133:36
come right back here on Monday because
133:39
we have a brand new episode of mr.
133:43
merica the beard of truth with Jason
133:44
Lyon and then be sure to tune in on
133:46
Tuesday for the muddy waters of freedom
133:49
where Matt Wright returns with me as we
133:51
parse through the news of the week with
133:54
the with the the the joy of a sweet
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summer boy and then tune in next
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Wednesday where I will where I will have
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I know I’m not I don’t do I have a guess
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walking in a field my friends yes that’s
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the that’s the so that’s the so that’s
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actually the theme even though it’s not
134:14
April’s not in summer that is going to
134:17
be goddamn calendar you should put on
134:19
some little fucking shorts and be
134:21
frolicking in a field somewhere just
134:25
picture like am I in water that’s a
134:28
better idea than you with your April
134:30
bullshit April showers what’s it with
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like flowers and shit run in fruit and
134:36
just frog look like a basket with like a
134:38
little basket and like throwing the
134:39
flower yes and we’re like the little
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like you know
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the sweet severance the sweet summer boy
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and then tune in next week for my fellow
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Americans right here on Wednesday night
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I have a guest I don’t remember I don’t
134:54
remember who my guest is you’re not
134:56
going to believe who it is either so be
134:57
sure to tune in Wednesday for my
134:58
surprise guest that no one knows at the
135:00
moment but guys thanks again for tuning
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in so much and God bless you
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