(((My Fellow Americans))) #36: That Wasn’t Real Festival!

Lou Sander


About This Episode


Spike just got home and has zero notes, but thankfully he also has one of his favorite people on as a guest. Lou Sander, host of The Lousander Show, is here to talk about the upcoming Midwest Peace & Liberty Fest in Michigan!

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not going to do that because I don’t
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have any notes about him I know a lot
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about him my next guest is the host of
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the loose sander show he also is
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promoting an upcoming a festival that he
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has every year called the peace Midwest
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peace and liberty festival in faster
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festival
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yes fest festival whatever you want to
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call it Midwest peace and liberty
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gathering in Delton Michigan he has that
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it’s going to be June of this year I
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don’t know the date even that is how
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rough that he is one of the people that
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when I was transitioning into being an
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anarchist that when I would have sort of
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lingering doubts or questions he was one
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of the people I bounced up off of and he
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has made me the smug arrogant and yet
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aesthetically pleasing
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antico capitalist a see before you
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ladies and gentlemen without any further
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ado please welcome my guest my friend
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and yours mr. Lou sander Lou thank you
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so much for joining us thanks for having
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me and you’re welcome for my service I
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was glad that I could exorcise those
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demons from you you did you actually
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fought for my freedom and and that
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was a you have to fight hard you you
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engaged in late-night messaging for my
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freedom
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I appreciate you that well you’re very
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welcome
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so it’s it’s always a pleasure to be
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able to reach the reachable and thanks
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for not kicking and screaming and
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spitting pea soup on me as I was giving
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prayers of Anarchy for you but you
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weren’t you weren’t close enough casa
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casting the demons out right exactly
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exactly so guys be sure to comment with
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any questions or thoughts that you have
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from me and Lou and we will tell you if
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you are right or wrong now Lou before we
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get started about the the I I am used to
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having notes before we get used to the
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Midwest peace and liberty festival
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before we start talking about that I
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just want to ask you because I don’t
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think I really we talked about this
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before
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one was cuz I like when you looking back
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at your old post when you were a
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constitutionalist and you would say
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things like you know everything we need
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is right there in the Constitution what
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was actually going I thought that
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disappeared when I got promos upped
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because I had a post like that and that
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was from back around 2010-2011 yeah so I
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think what I was doing was I was
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paraphrasing so parents aren’t real
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smart they can’t carry on conversations
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all they can do is repeat stuff and
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quite frankly most of the people as far
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as their political stances go they don’t
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have any hard core beliefs they have
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stuff that their tribe says that they
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repeat like followed the Constitution
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yes we don’t need more laws we already
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have a great law it’s called the
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Constitution and it’s got all the
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vitamins and minerals in it that we need
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it’s got all the restraints it does it
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does what we need it to do and blah blah
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blah so really what got me out of that
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was when I read the Constitution that’s
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interesting that was a big one when I
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read when I didn’t just read the Bill of
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Rights but I actually read the first
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was it seven articles I thought oh wow
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this is not it’s not very free to me at
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all yeah well most of the
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self-proclaimed constitutionalists out
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there and I can’t even tell you how many
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I run into that admit that they’ve never
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read the Constitution now they like the
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idea but they like what it envisions and
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some of them maybe they tried to read it
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and they went through like the the first
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seven you know they went into the into
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the it’s not the preamble I was gonna
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say the analog yeah yeah fictional book
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fiction already has prologue so anyway
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so they they go to the preamble and they
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say we the people ah that means that we
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did it collectively jointly together you
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know it was never we the people because
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well none of us were alive back then and
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all our stuff so once you get past that
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big nonsense and then also I learned I
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read some things that were critical of
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the Constitution and I learned that you
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know much to my surprise that the
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Constitution wasn’t something that they
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came out of the hall the convention hall
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in 1787 for the for the coup for the
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conservative counter-revolution and
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people cheered and azar stuff and they
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said yeah yeah yeah and in some wait he
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says uh Franklin well what form of
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government have you given us sir a
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republic if you can keep it if you can
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keep it and yeah and interestingly
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enough there’s no actual evidence that
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he said that and there’s no mention of
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it until like several years later in the
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person who who really made it popular
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claims that he or heard it but nobody
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had ever said anything about it for like
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the first 50 years whatever but there’s
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no one mention it’s a lot like I
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remember fifty years ago so that’s fine
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yes so it’s it’s it’s it’s a founding
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father fan thing yeah yeah it’s it’s the
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it’s a religiosity that goes along with
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with statism it’s it’s like the the high
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school reputation because there’s always
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a girl they had to move away because she
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did something embarrassing that evolved
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going to the doctor to have her
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moved in and because she’d moved away
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everybody just said oh well that’s what
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happened well whether it did or not and
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it probably didn’t but I mean the bottom
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line is people make stuff up and in
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legends are are born and like you were
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equating the founding of the
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Constitution with an abortion
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I actually I think I might use that in
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the future that’s a actually I wasn’t I
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wasn’t thinking abortion I was thinking
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of well I’ll tell you afterwards but
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it’s it’s it’s it is it’s much more
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disgusting okay
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all right well then oh then I’ll just
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keep thinking abortion for now we get a
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comment Justin Turner says well the
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country ever come together and realize
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that you and I are the right ones one
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would hope but but no we don’t even put
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off is that I don’t let’s start with the
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guests let’s start with making the
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guests realize that I’m right when they
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one step at a time what forget the
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guests first up the guests and then then
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we go on to the world from there so yeah
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I I’m where you were I am the more I it
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was people like you that we’re saying
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have you read the Constitution I’m like
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yeah of course I have all ten amendments
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bro yeah so so what happens is somebody
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will go and they’ll they’ll get the
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Constitution and they’ll be reading the
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preamble We the People to make the more
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perfect union
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all right right that sounds pretty good
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at least yes articles general welfare
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well the a circular an article one is
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not really exciting so they’re like I’m
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gonna skip us I’m gonna skip ahead and
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see how this see if it gets any better
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so they’re going through a vertical one
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and they’re not even article one section
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eight yet where it says that the
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Congress has the power of unlimited
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taxation national debt interfering with
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Commerce make all laws necessary and
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proper to ensure a proper welfare state
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so they don’t go through that they just
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look at article one like huh too long
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didn’t read at least yeah yeah yeah
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they’re like let’s get to that second
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amendment yeah yes so but a new much
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second amendment cuz that would be
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reckless
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well you know
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you’re gonna have a second amendment you
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have to do with the legal way um the
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then there’s the so then there’s of
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course the habeas corpus clause which
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basically says government can suspend
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habeas corpus if and it gives all this
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weasel wording for all the different
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reasons ways that it can kidnap and
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murder you without even having a stated
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reason as long as it’s added during the
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time of war rebellion or crisis or and
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then even leaves any any conditions that
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may require it meaning like if the
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government decides that the government
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needs to do this to you
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that’s fine which is why the the NDAA s
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that you know allowed Obama and now
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Trump to indefinitely hold American
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citizens without a warrant it was ruled
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constitutional right cuz it he yes well
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it comes from article 1 section 9 Clause
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2 so the Congress has the power to
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suspend the privilege not to write the
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privilege religious corpus in in time of
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the foreign invasion or domestic
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rebellion whenever the public safety may
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require it may require up yeah I’m not
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using notes either here so who who is it
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that but I’m pretty darn close I may
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have been off by like a comma or
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something like that may require it’s the
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big part yeah so who who determines
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that’s rebellion so Congress has the
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power to determine that that there is a
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rebellion so if people tried to alter or
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abolish the form of government when it
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becomes tyrannical right away from the
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Declaration of Independence if they try
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to do that that’s considered a rebellion
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and in that case the privilege of the
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writ of habeas corpus gives can be
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suspended right so all it takes is the
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interpretation of Congress creditors to
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say yep we’re at a point to where we
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need to do this because public safety
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and the oversight is from them so it’s
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sort of like when you know the police
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kill someone and then the police get
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together and decide that the police
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really needed to kill that guy and it
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just you know couldn’t be avoided as you
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said yeah it’s exact same thing with the
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same oversight whenever you see a
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picture of the Supreme Court you should
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just have the caption the government
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investigated itself and found
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did nothing wrong or so they were though
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sometimes throw us a bone and go you
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know that thing that happened 50 years
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ago we’re super sorry about that and
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here’s some money that we’re gonna Rob
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from you and give back to the survivors
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to make up for it aren’t we great and
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progressive but like in terms of what’s
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happening right now they’re like no no
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no that’s all fine and and we’re gonna
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lock up anyone is even you know leaking
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that this is happening because of course
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it’s fine it’s fine but we also don’t
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want you to know and and you know we’ll
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cage anyone who tries to kidnap anyone
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that tries to tell you so so yeah and of
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course Joe Patriot that thinks with this
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flag instead of his brain he’ll he’ll
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say something like well our government
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would never do that or our military
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would never would never take up arms
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against the citizenry and then when you
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point out that they did that to their
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fellow veterans during the Bonus Army
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protests and as a matter of fact who was
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a General MacArthur was part of that and
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not eisenhower I think Patton was
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involved so they’ll say that our
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military would never do that you point
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out that that they did it and then
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reflexively without even a thought to
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say well that was different or they they
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probably had a good reason for it so
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that so so they would say that quicker
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than I did but that wasn’t real
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constitutionalism yeah that wasn’t real
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the army not doing that yeah so so
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really when you look at when you look at
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the Constitution and you everybody has
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this cartoon version of it that they’re
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just repeating that it’s this thing
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about freedom if you read the seven
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articles you don’t see a lot of freedom
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in there you have the ten amendments
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that were a pacifier to keep the
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anti-federalist and pretty much a
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general population from from launching a
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second American Revolution and writing
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down the coup so I as a matter of fact
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the the Constitution was so unpopular
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had it gone to a vote across the country
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had we the people decided all right with
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that with a ballot it would have got
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killed big time the only place that went
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to a vote of the plebiscite meaning the
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general voting public was in the state
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of Rhode Island wrote
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where he was killed 11 to 1 they didn’t
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measure that emotional studies no and no
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they told you that co2 aka plant food is
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bad but the Rhode Island was also the
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last state to join the union and they
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basically did it
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Don Hamel Tony basically told them hey
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you’re gonna join our little association
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here or it might be a shame if your
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windows got broken out or your place got
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put out fire if something’s gonna happen
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to this place yeah yeah so basically
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they get threatening into it you know
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because domestic security or some crap
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but if you just look at the difference
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in the in the language that’s used the
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the conservative counter-revolutions
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says that in times of rebellion the
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military may be used to put down
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rebellion it also defines that rebellion
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is it can define it as treason as says
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that those people don’t deserve a trial
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or to head their grievances heard even
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though you know you got that stupid
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First Amendment but the language of the
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Declaration of Independence the radicals
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decided that in government government
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becomes tyrannical is right of the
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people to alter or abolish it so just
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just look at the difference there well
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and I mean these are the same I mean
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everyone loves the tree of liberty quote
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unless it’s actually applied to police
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officers or you know you know anyone who
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actually would read on you you know as
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when used against with that do you know
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the origins of that quote the tree and
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for those who don’t know that the tree
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of LeWitt says the tree of liberty
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should be refreshed from time to time
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again no notes refresh from time to time
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with the blood of patriots and tyrants
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it’s it’s natural fertilizer or
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something like that
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meaning sometimes Liberty will have to
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be refreshed by killing people that are
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trying to keep you from being free
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anyways go ahead with the so I don’t
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know I don’t know the background now I
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don’t remember who the letter was to but
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Jefferson was in France at the time as
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an ambassador and so no most view
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constitution lickers Jefferson was not a
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part of the Constitutional Convention
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the writing or any of that crap because
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he was out of the country
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had he been in the country he probably
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would have talked it people into into
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burning the conspirators but anyhow so
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he was he was awaiting his copy the
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Constitution he had not seen it yet and
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he says well I’m sure that there are
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probably some good parts in there but
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I’m sure that there are also some really
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bad ones and the reason for the
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Constitution the the reason that the
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Conservatives said that they need a new
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central government was because of Shay’s
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so-called rebellion I the the amount of
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violence that that happened in Shay’s
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rebellion I need on both sides I think
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that I think the death toll was lower
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than after like most major sporting
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championship games Soho sign there
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there’s much less destruction than when
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Detroit sports team wins a championship
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it’s really the Lions because they don’t
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win championships I was gonna say I was
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gonna say do we have any recent
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empirical evidence for this yeah
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well the the Tigers did pretty good the
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the Red Wings were very good for quite a
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long time and the Pistons were pretty
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good too they had some back to back
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stuff but anyway so you didn’t what you
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had was you had a lot of protesting and
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but all that was going on was they were
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going into these court proceedings where
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property was being foreclosed upon and
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they were disrupting the proceedings so
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they were shouting shouting people down
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they were also calling for points of
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order and stuff like that sign they’re
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they’re trying to be heard and they were
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nonviolent about it but the thing is the
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the Massachusetts state government tried
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to expedite the the payment of the war
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debt so they why the accelerated
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repayment of it but they also wanted it
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to be paid in specie so it had be in
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silver now out in the western frontier
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there was no sir silver available and
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they should have been asking for moon
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rocks or unicorn tusks right because it
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just didn’t exist so what you had was a
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clear case of of taxation without
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representation because of the people out
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in the frontier they weren’t being
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represented right now they were getting
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trounced on by by Boston where the
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where the majority of the population was
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yeah they it was just like any big city
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that dominates a mostly rural state
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right right right but they they weren’t
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even protesting against paying taxes
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they were protesting it against the
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provisions of it
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so it’s not like they’re a bunch of
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aggregates out there saying taxation was
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theft and and you know alter and abolish
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you guys know they were just they were
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just saying we can’t pay you let us pay
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you in a way that we could you know we
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can give you
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I don’t Buffalo pelts or you know
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something like that like there’s not I
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mean what-what would did they have gold
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out there yet or that was before the the
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gold strikes I well the gold was in the
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new world for quite a long time whether
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whether it was circulated in really
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large amounts back then I don’t I don’t
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really know yeah but how they obviously
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had some medium to trade with so why not
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accept that because they didn’t want
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that in Boston so yeah well the thing is
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they couldn’t use like the the script
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that was that was being used so I know a
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lot of cases they were bartering and and
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and just like with the whiskey rebellion
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there was a shortage of specie out in
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out in western Pennsylvania and whiskey
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was used as a currency right I mean you
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gotta remember it wasn’t for most of
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probably a good portion of the 1800s
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there wasn’t an actual real currency I
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don’t write a US dollar right right
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right right
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so that’s that something came about
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later
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yeah the greenbacks that were pretty
23:46
short-lived you had the Continental that
23:48
was that made the Zimbabwe dollar look
23:51
like nothing but the but the big thing
23:53
is I just started learning a little bit
23:56
about history I worked a lot about
23:57
economics and also a bless me Father for
24:01
I have sinned
24:02
it’s been several years I’ve been
24:04
engaged in the political process but I
24:06
worked on a congressional campaign and
24:10
when I joined that campaign as a holy
24:13
cow I guess I’m just gonna have to read
24:15
this constitution through and through
24:17
and and I was one of those guys I read
24:19
today I’m like oh my god falling asleep
24:22
here right sorry no but I forced myself
24:26
to read
24:27
all the junk that’s in there it’s like
24:29
where’s where’s all this Liberty people
24:32
are talking about right so obviously
24:34
obviously it’s the people that have only
24:36
read the Bill of Rights and they just
24:39
assume that everything else is Chuck
24:41
full yet goodness but I think the North
24:43
Korean Constitution has a Bill of Rights
24:45
in it yeah chapter 5 is their
24:47
fundamental rights and duties article
24:49
sixties having guarantees freedom of
24:51
speech the press assembly political
24:55
demonstration and and says that the
24:57
state has to has to allow peep everybody
25:00
into the political process and article
25:02
68 freedom of religion sign between
25:05
those two articles you got the yet the
25:06
First Amendment I remember reading at
25:10
maybe it was you that sent it to me
25:11
someone sent me a list of a link to the
25:14
North Korean Constitution their part
25:16
with what their human being or whatever
25:18
they call it yeah I was probably you
25:20
someone you were someone level a new
25:22
people fundamental um and it was like we
25:25
mean reading it you know you upper-upper
25:31
you use southern Canadians um but I read
25:35
it and I’m like this actually in any way
25:38
sounds better than the Bill of Rights
25:39
which just shows how worthless is you
25:42
have people that are eating tree bark to
25:44
survive and if they try to leave they
25:46
get shot but you know but they got this
25:47
piece of paper that says that whether
25:51
they’re even allowed to read it or not
25:52
that says they have all these rights
25:53
guaranteed by the government you know I
25:56
guess they’re just not doing it right
25:57
it’s not real North Korean that rely on
26:00
several Constitution yeah not real
26:02
Constitution yeah so so yeah so that’s
26:05
so that’s interesting so so you did the
26:08
Congressional Campaign read the
26:10
Constitution and then you’re like okay
26:12
this is I don’t think I agree with this
26:15
well it was a little bit more than that
26:17
the the candidate was co-opted but I
26:21
think before he had he had even won the
26:26
primary I think I think he was
26:30
definitely co-opted before he even won
26:31
the election he was John Bainer smoking
26:34
buddy early on before the election had
26:37
even happened okay so so I watch this
26:40
guy
26:41
just basically go from Anakin to Darth
26:44
and he was one of these round call Ron
26:46
Paul guys but but like a lot of the Ron
26:48
Paul candidates he was he was more
26:51
saying what he needed to say and it
26:53
wasn’t an actual reflection of true
26:57
conviction it was well I believe this
27:00
you know freedom is important so long as
27:02
it’s done illegally as long as it
27:03
doesn’t interfere with with the safety
27:05
of others and blah blah blah rights just
27:07
all the not specific goes along with it
27:09
so after he won I got the job offer and
27:13
rather than joining up I says I’m going
27:18
to have to respectfully decline thank
27:20
you very much good luck to you
27:22
see ya no well good well we’re glad
27:26
you’re here
27:28
so the the Midwest peace and Liberty
27:31
festival which I’ve had done a terrible
27:33
job so far are promoting virtually
27:35
mostly because I like literally I came
27:37
in I put fish from the store I threw
27:42
that into the freezer and then ran in
27:44
here and started setting stuff up I’ve
27:46
had no time so we but we do have
27:49
thankfully we have a clip to a an ad
27:53
that you’ve done audio clips that I’m
27:55
gonna play now for the Midwest peace and
27:57
Liberty festival and then you can we can
27:59
talk all about it so here we go it is
28:01
you’re right your duty and your
28:04
privilege to attend the seventh annual
28:06
Midwest piece of Liberty fest elder the
28:08
circle play set
28:09
deli Michigan just south side of
28:11
Kalamazoo from Thursday June 20th to
28:14
Monday June 24th this is a most
28:16
important Liberty fest of our lifetimes
28:18
this is both an adult family-friendly
28:20
event there will be all sorts of outdoor
28:23
activities games discussions and bacon
28:25
lots of bacon scheduled speakers both
28:29
lead
28:29
CJ Kilmer of the dangerous history
28:31
podcast and Brett the novel school sucks
28:34
make sure your voice is heard by
28:36
rounding up your friends and family
28:38
getting them registered today at MPL
28:40
fest org as Mike Papa Lima fest dot org
28:44
dogs welcome blogger Alicia’s
28:46
recommended and a vote for an Archon is
28:48
really a vote for Gore fest so I like
28:53
the references to most important of our
28:55
lifetime and round up your friends and
28:56
register that he’s got to do if you’re
28:58
gonna if you’re gonna go to the midwest
28:59
peace and liberty festival get in line
29:02
and go through the process like i found
29:04
coming through the front door come into
29:06
the front door we have a wall with a
29:08
beautiful door come through that and
29:11
let’s see your papers so tell me about
29:14
cuz i I this is the is it 19th annual
29:17
now this is a seventh oh seventh annual
29:20
and sorry so you’ve had a few of these
29:23
tell us about how did this get started
29:25
like what what got you started with the
29:27
Midwest peace and liberty festival oh
29:30
gosh this is really a it’s it’s almost
29:35
storybook to tell it and and its origin
29:39
started out before I became involved
29:41
with the group but there were a handful
29:43
of people that they were the the early
29:46
membership of the Michigan peace of
29:48
Liberty coalition and they were sitting
29:51
around together and like January or
29:53
February of I think 2013 in somebody’s
29:58
living room huddling for warmth and
30:00
everything because it’s Michigan and
30:02
there’s thing they’re saying yeah what
30:05
we should go camping this summer yeah
30:07
that sounds like a great idea and they
30:09
talked about it a little bit and
30:11
eventually they’re like well you know
30:12
what let’s listen find a bunch of people
30:14
ask as many people as we can and it got
30:17
turned into a Facebook of that and I was
30:20
at this time I was a pretty much
30:23
newly minted anarchy is still trying to
30:24
find out where I was and everything and
30:26
I was even a radio show host yet a
30:28
matter of fact I wasn’t even a blogger
30:30
yet I think I was the I was the admin
30:35
for the freedom fiends Facebook page so
30:38
basically yeah so basically I would post
30:40
memes and then sweep up after they did
30:42
the shows so anyway you were what what
30:46
Matt and I need and Jason need for
30:48
muddied waters just like a lackey like
30:50
please do this cuz because we don’t feel
30:53
like doing this yeah my Lackey time is
30:56
is in the past um no no I didn’t mean
30:58
you I’m a tweet but we need we call oh
31:01
yeah I need someone no I mean you should
31:03
do this for us I’ve said we need someone
31:06
like that so if anyone out there would
31:08
like to be a lackey unpaid also unpaved
31:11
Lackey um be sure to hit us up in the in
31:14
the slide into our messages and we will
31:17
we will hook you up immediately so the
31:19
way yeah well what you just did I heard
31:22
an advertisement on the the freedom
31:24
fiends for an unpaid Facebook admin and
31:27
I’d never add mundane pages before but
31:29
I’m like I was so I was on the podcast
31:31
and and I’ve got a pretty good meme
31:33
stash I could do this
31:34
so I said Michael a message in and he
31:38
got me set up on there and I started
31:41
making posts and everything else and and
31:43
I basically took ownership of the
31:46
freedom fiends page mm-hmm so I would I
31:48
would promote shows and everything else
31:50
and write and also post stuff that I
31:52
wanted to post but it worked out for you
31:55
so they they did what they called fiend
31:56
sourcing so they think they made a call
31:59
to action to their to their Westerners I
32:02
answered the call and eventually Michael
32:05
asked me if I want to be a blogger
32:06
that’s pretty popular my satire posts
32:08
were the best ones so I did a little bit
32:12
then I also did a little bit libertarian
32:14
stuff and then eventually when the first
32:17
Midwest piece of Liberty fest happened I
32:19
did part of the live report the feet on
32:23
the field report so okay so been stoned
32:27
the bad Quaker of backpacker calm he
32:30
came up with his wife and and his dog
32:33
and solving mysteries along the way
32:36
and we did a broadcast for Beth its
32:39
camper so we called in to the freedom
32:43
fiends and and did a little broadcast on
32:45
their live from the event
32:47
cool cool so that was the first year
32:49
yeah and then later a couple months
32:52
later I think it was Michael sent me a
32:54
microphone and said here do something
32:56
with this and and I wanna I wound up
32:59
doing my doing my own show or going on
33:05
going on the freedom fiends and then now
33:06
I have my own show the the Lou Sanders
33:09
show that I’m the absentee landlord of
33:11
because I would put out any episodes in
33:13
a while anything but you put up the ad
33:16
for the festival so why was last month
33:19
while supposed to some guest appearances
33:21
too but and that’s true that’s true so
33:23
going back to the original story of how
33:26
we got started so I see I see this post
33:28
I’m sitting in my apartment yeah I’m
33:29
like oh man I wonder if these anarchists
33:33
out there on Facebook or real or if
33:34
they’re just like government agents
33:35
trolling and trying to bust me you know
33:38
cuz I mean there’s there’s an awful lot
33:39
of government agents out there just
33:40
looking for me so anyway just after you
33:44
yeah yeah because I’ve been libertarian
33:46
for like a whole 30 minutes now so as
33:48
they were onto me at like 29 minutes ago
33:52
but anyway so I I see this event and I’m
33:55
like hey this is pretty cool cuz I paint
33:58
somewhat local page has shared it so I
34:01
clicked yes I’m going I posted in there
34:03
it says this sounds great I can’t wait
34:05
to go I’m so excited but stuff like that
34:07
and a couple minutes later I got friend
34:10
requests from a couple of the organizers
34:12
who were also founders of the Michigan
34:15
peace Liberty coalition and I got
34:16
invited out to some of the meetups so
34:19
they’d have like at least one sometimes
34:21
two monthly meetups and just discuss
34:24
what about the roads and in all these
34:27
different subjects but it was also into
34:29
Somalia yeah but it was also
34:32
okay what can we do to get more freedom
34:34
one guy was doing a presentation on
34:35
Bitcoin that was the first meetup I went
34:37
to and Bitcoin was still pretty new at
34:39
the time so most of people there didn’t
34:42
know a whole lot about it but this guy
34:44
was out I’m out in front on it so I
34:47
thought that was pretty interesting I
34:49
got a chance to meet these
34:50
these people that I was Facebook friends
34:53
with but I’d never met in real life
34:54
before and it was really good time but
34:58
like the first meetup I was invited to I
35:02
it at I may have had some stuff going on
35:04
but I may have been a little bit lazy
35:06
and to be honest wasn’t when I heard
35:10
about the fastest yeah this is gonna be
35:11
great it’s gonna be great
35:12
but I probably would have backed out
35:15
because a lot of people they they get
35:17
really excited about an idea of doing
35:19
something but what comes it’s time to do
35:20
it like go camping for a weekend and
35:22
having fun
35:23
for some reason they they get a little
35:25
bit funky and they they back out of it
35:26
they find excuses not to do these things
35:29
and then they complain that there’s
35:30
nothing to do there they’re Antico
35:33
agoraphobics right like there’s you mean
35:36
outside with people no I’m on Mikhail’s
35:39
there well it’s it’s not just ank you
35:42
said this is really a common trend of
35:46
people that they always find a reason to
35:49
back out of stuff at the last minute so
35:51
it is like when there’s a Facebook event
35:53
and you see 1,000 people have have
35:56
answered that yes they’re going you know
36:00
that basically one up 100 might show up
36:03
right right right right
36:05
so in quite frankly I would have found
36:08
some I probably found some BS excuse not
36:10
to go but by that time I was so involved
36:13
with the group because I mean we’re
36:14
getting together like almost every
36:16
weekend and doing stuff so I we’d have
36:19
our meet us but we’d also have camp outs
36:21
in people’s backyards and what I really
36:24
liked about it was you had this this
36:27
family environment and it was it was all
36:30
based on the principles of anarchism
36:32
some bacon and bacon
36:35
lotsa bacon so this year’s was gonna
36:38
call it the bacon fest what we called
36:40
the bacon fest the Midwest bacon and
36:41
bacon fest um so besides the bacon which
36:45
by the way we’re not joking when we say
36:47
that there’s an ungodly amount of pork
36:50
products being consumed meat in general
36:51
being consumed that these things would
36:54
the the fully what is it a full capacity
36:56
assault kitchen yes yes it’s got the
37:00
bump stock it’s got the shoulder thing
37:02
that goes up
37:04
and make it real murdery um they say
37:08
magazine release yeah so besides the
37:12
bacon tell us about what’s gonna be at
37:14
this at this festival this year I there
37:17
was a mention of the school sucks guy
37:19
which I thought was funny but but tells
37:21
some of the speakers and things tell us
37:23
about what’s going on at this festival
37:24
are you familiar with school sucks
37:26
I’ve heard of it but I’ve never is it
37:29
like school sucks calm school sex school
37:34
sex project people don’t use web
37:36
addresses anymore they just basically do
37:38
hazel searches yeah sorry if he plays
37:40
school sex podcast your school sucks
37:42
project
37:43
brett-brett story is pretty interesting
37:45
he went to school to become a teacher
37:47
and he went through school and and I
37:51
think he may have done a year or two of
37:53
actual teaching but he got a look at
37:56
what was going on in the schools and
37:57
then he was also a big fan of John
38:00
Taylor Gatto so Gatto was the guy that
38:04
spent 30-some years in the New York
38:06
public school system right a Teacher of
38:09
the Year a couple times and he basically
38:11
blew the whistle on how it’s just a big
38:13
giant indoctrination program yeah it’s a
38:15
big mess
38:16
right yeah well not so much the
38:18
indoctrination but the but but the
38:19
crappy education that kids get out of it
38:22
right so Brett he he left being he left
38:27
like regular teaching and got involved
38:29
in other types of things so I think he
38:31
did some tutoring and but he also
38:34
watched a school sucks project and it’s
38:37
about alternatives to the mainline
38:41
school system because I mean even the
38:43
even the private schools and in the
38:46
parochial schools they still follow a
38:48
lot of the government model so yeah what
38:51
well and and and even if they’re not
38:52
using you know the federal No Child Left
38:54
Behind standard or whatever they’re
38:56
still using the Prussian school model
38:58
that was designed to make you know
39:00
factory workers and soldiers like I mean
39:03
it’s not a it’s not a model for people
39:06
to expand their their minds and horizons
39:08
it’s about teaching them to become
39:10
compliant and you know Pavlov’s dogs
39:12
responses to bells and stuff like that
39:15
so I mean it’s it schools the school
39:18
unless you’re talking like a Montessori
39:20
or one of these other where they’re
39:21
using a completely different model
39:23
schools are schools yeah they want they
39:26
want people that are smart enough to
39:27
pull the trigger but not but not smart
39:30
enough to ask why to ask white right
39:31
exactly exactly so so so that’s
39:35
historian in nutshell so if you go to
39:37
school sucks podcasts and was so that
39:39
there’s a lot of great stuff on it
39:41
I barely caught a drop in the bucket of
39:44
it but I mean there’s some real good
39:46
stuff on there and and brett has some
39:48
pretty good conversations with people as
39:51
a matter of fact there was one that I’ve
39:53
been meaning to listening to one series
39:55
they did on procrastination and well you
40:01
know seriously I seriously do want to
40:03
listen to I just haven’t gotten around
40:04
to it
40:05
yeah he did one about echinacea but I
40:07
just keep forgetting to anyway I okay
40:14
anyway so uh cool so it and so who so
40:18
what are the other types of people that
40:20
are that are gonna be on there who else
40:21
he had booked for okay so so we had prop
40:24
CJ and CJ is from the dangerous pisser
40:28
dangerous history podcasts hmm and I
40:32
love that that podcast that is that is
40:35
one that I subscribe to so I I’m
40:39
subscribed to his email list so I get an
40:41
email when his shows come out and I
40:45
download them and I listen to him and I
40:48
I don’t think there’s more than just a
40:50
couple shows that I’ve listened to only
40:52
once I think most of them I’ve gone
40:54
through and listened to several times as
40:57
a matter of fact his his series on the
40:59
war for American independence and then
41:02
also revolutionary aftershocks talking
41:04
about the about the response to Shea’s
41:08
so-called rebellion
41:09
oh yeah going back to that so Sam Adams
41:12
mr. freedom he he threw a fit a fit over
41:17
Shay’s rebellion he’s like it’s okay to
41:19
rebel against a king but if you rebelled
41:21
against our republic then you need to
41:23
have your balls shaved right that’s
41:25
reason yeah yeah I
41:27
he went Hueber status on there
41:30
so yeah so when uh in that letter they
41:38
reference Shay’s rebellion and and how
41:40
people were throwing throwing a hissy
41:41
fit in a panic saying that America has
41:44
devolved into anarchy eek you know
41:46
because some people had a complaint over
41:49
taxes right right right because that
41:52
wasn’t what started the whole thing in
41:53
the first place yeah so yeah the
41:55
conservative counter-revolution that was
41:58
in the states we’re actually behind this
42:00
because what what they got out of this
42:02
was before they had to put down their
42:04
own rebellions so by coming up with a
42:07
centralized power yes they ceded some of
42:11
their power but they also got the
42:14
federal military to go and put down
42:17
rebellions for them to help them my well
42:20
and and I’ll and also Jews I mean they
42:22
would do some of the dirty work so it’s
42:26
like when when the Whiskey Rebellion
42:28
happened and the largest distiller of
42:31
whiskey or one of the largest distillers
42:34
at the very least George Washington now
42:36
when when when it when they had that 25
42:38
percent whiskey tax and he sent 13,000
42:41
troops into western Pennsylvania by way
42:43
13,000 troops is more than he ever had
42:46
under his direct control as the
42:47
commander in chief of the of the
42:49
Continental Army but anyway when he sent
42:52
him when he sat down into western
42:54
Pennsylvania to put down one of the
42:56
smaller of the whiskey protests whiskey
42:59
tax protests now that was that was just
43:04
the Constitution being constitutional
43:07
because it is constitutional to lay
43:11
taxes without any limit its
43:12
constitutional to have the military put
43:15
down two rebellions so that was and like
43:21
I said he was one of the largest
43:22
distillers of whiskey and the way the
43:23
tax was written it was a 25 percent tax
43:26
on every gallon produced for the small
43:29
producers that couldn’t afford the the
43:32
somewhat nominal fee of not nominal
43:35
annual fee so if you were large enough
43:38
to pay the annual fee it didn’t cost a
43:39
whole lot but if you were a smaller
43:41
producer you couldn’t afford to pay that
43:43
nominal fee
43:44
and therefore you had to do the 25% of
43:46
each calendar deuced so I’d imagine that
43:49
the larger producers had absolutely no
43:50
problem with that because they cut out
43:52
their competition and made made it more
43:53
profitable for them the larger producers
43:56
like George Washington yes that is
43:58
correct it’s funny how that works so
44:02
that sounds like a bit of a scam but
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so we have to do that about partway
44:41
through so yeah so so so you’ve got
44:45
professor CJ’s gonna actually be there
44:47
yes and I don’t I don’t know what topic
44:51
is going to be but he’ll be doing a
44:52
presentation this year last year it was
44:56
about being intellectually omnivorous or
44:59
avoiding intellectual intellectual
45:02
incest or something like basically his
45:05
point was don’t go to all the same
45:08
source for everything avoid the
45:10
confirmation bias that goes along with
45:12
it right exactly
45:15
so it’s it’s look at things that that
45:18
are different from what you are from
45:23
what you tend to believe so if you want
45:25
to if you were an Austrian economist
45:30
there’s there’s nothing wrong with
45:32
reading Keynesian economics so if
45:35
somebody like well what’s his name I
45:38
think Glenn Hubbard there’s a couple
45:40
Keynesian economists that are supposedly
45:42
not too bad but I like with them yeah
45:47
there’s nothing wrong with reading them
45:48
you don’t have to accept it as Holy Writ
45:50
and if you hear something that’s
45:53
challenging to what your beliefs are now
45:56
if you get bothered by it
45:58
you have to question how good your
45:59
beliefs are that’s the thing I’ve been
46:03
embracing stoicism the last at the last
46:05
year or so to try to be more mindful and
46:08
stuff like that and it’s been really
46:10
cool to let go of my how do i word it so
46:17
a lot of people and I was one of them
46:20
you you find something that you really
46:22
strongly believe in and you’re being
46:24
right about that becomes part of almost
46:26
like your your how you see yourself in
46:29
terms of your self-worth and so when you
46:30
debate it with people you’re not just
46:32
debating that subject you’re debating
46:35
how right you are and how therefore how
46:38
smart and really intelligent you are
46:40
about it and that feeds so much bias
46:43
because now you’re actively looking for
46:45
things that that feed the bias that
46:47
you’re right and you actively push away
46:49
things that say well maybe you’re wrong
46:51
about that and it allows you to and
46:54
that’s how people get kind of you know
46:55
caught up in these belief systems and
46:56
then they’ll often when they change
46:59
beliefs something really hit some hard
47:01
and they change they go right back to
47:03
you know they go from being a you know I
47:05
see it a lot with you know libertarians
47:07
they’ll they’ll become conservatives or
47:09
they were conservatives or progressives
47:10
or whatever then they become libertarian
47:12
and then they just get you know sucked
47:14
into that that’s now you know now and
47:17
their specific brand of libertarianism
47:19
whether it’s min or Casimir anarchism er
47:22
mutualism or whatever it is they get
47:24
sucked into that and they’re like you
47:26
know well no this is right and and it’s
47:29
been very freeing the last you know year
47:30
or so that when I find things that
47:32
challenge my beliefs I actively am like
47:35
oh maybe I’m wrong let me find out so I
47:37
can you know so I can be right about or
47:39
be closer to write about it so that’s
47:41
really cool that he’s doing that and we
47:43
actually talked about him lost a lot on
47:45
the first episode that we that we don’t
47:48
talk about we talked about him Shiloh
47:52
larch has commented she apparently is a
47:54
Paul Gordon fan
47:55
she said just fast-forward to the Paul
47:58
Gordon part and then later she said I
48:00
heard Paul Gordon uses anchor FM and I
48:03
don’t know if that’s true
48:04
so yeah block and report her blocked and
48:09
reported so is there going
48:12
to be an ongoing battle in the bacon
48:14
wars at the Midwest peace and Liberty
48:16
festival or is there is there a an
48:19
armistice that’s been called so that
48:21
people can enjoy the day well much like
48:24
the Christmas truce during World War one
48:26
Paul and I call a ceasefire now he does
48:30
come over to the assault kitchen and all
48:32
the bacon is prepared over there is
48:34
fried and he eats a fried bacon and I
48:38
tell you what he he has a very contented
48:42
look upon his face as he eats the fried
48:44
bacon dare I say dare I say he looks
48:47
like he’s climaxing Wow
48:50
that’s yeah that’s a mental image that I
48:52
needed in this moment but I also is
48:59
there footage of this because you know
49:00
that could blow apart he has I mean he’s
49:02
built up a pretty solid brand of being
49:05
the the you know the bacon Baker so to
49:09
see him eating fried bacon or fryin if
49:13
you will and and and enjoying it that
49:16
could be kind of scandalous now they
49:19
could and I’m pretty sure I’m there
49:23
there may be some video footage I’m
49:25
pretty sure there’s some audio footage
49:27
of it too of him talking about it so I
49:31
think he described it as like like a
49:33
pork orgasm in his mouth don’t quote me
49:38
on that I know I know I have the
49:41
punctuation wrong just another a series
49:45
of really positive mental images with
49:46
all of that so thank you Shiloh for
49:48
starting that conversation so that’s
49:51
cool so so it starts is at what June 9th
49:55
that it starts this year it’s is
49:58
Thursday June 20th so it starts it
50:00
summer sometime in the morning totally
50:04
totally absurd the roughest show I’ve
50:07
done it’s the time that I had to flee a
50:10
hurricane and then I got back and was
50:12
flooding and and I did that show too but
50:16
uh yeah anybody said go ahead and say
50:17
June 20th June 20th and it ends on
50:20
Monday June 24th and Monday Monday
50:24
morning is a is a teardown put your
50:27
stuff away and go home day but there is
50:30
one event on that morning I do what’s
50:32
called final breakfast so it’s a big
50:35
giant group breakfast and I prepare food
50:38
for everybody’s still gonna be there on
50:39
Monday morning and there’s usually a
50:41
pretty good-sized crowd that’s there so
50:43
people will donate leftover potatoes
50:46
bacon eggs stuff like that and I’ll whip
50:48
it all up I have a I think it’s a
50:52
four-four gallon cast-iron Dutch oven so
50:56
it’s six yeah it’s a 16 inch diameter
50:59
and is it’s the largest one that I’ve
51:01
seen sold you know I mean outside of
51:03
maybe something that you need like a
51:04
gang of illegal immigrants to move
51:07
around for you but anyway so I fill that
51:10
thing up with hash browns and I just do
51:12
bunches and bunches of bunches of eggs
51:15
and and I fry up bacon and sausage
51:17
whatever is there and you would think
51:21
that that would be enough but wait
51:23
there’s more so we set up the table to
51:26
where everybody can go through the
51:27
little buffet line and last year was
51:29
really nice because III wouldn’t well I
51:31
went to go put all the stuff over there
51:32
there was no room and I had to move
51:34
stuff around because people brought all
51:37
this leftover fruit and stuff sighing
51:40
there were strawberries and and cherries
51:42
and bananas and just all this different
51:44
fruit cut up ready to go and it was
51:46
pretty awesome
51:48
no often people will bring over at
51:51
bagels and I just all the stuff that
51:54
they have leftover as a matter of fact
51:55
some of the people that leave on Sunday
51:57
will drop stuff off on Sunday night
52:00
saying here there’s four final breakfast
52:02
there was a vegetarian she stayed and
52:05
she she doesn’t need a meetin I mean
52:08
everything’s got me cuz I even fried the
52:10
hash browns and bacon grease but she
52:13
donated a couple bags of potatoes so
52:14
it’s this big giant
52:16
voluntary thing nice that’s really cool
52:19
and there was was there a wedding there
52:21
one year or was that just like a
52:23
gimmicky thing I thought I saw pictures
52:26
of a wedding there were two weddings oh
52:30
wow yeah so James weeks the stripping
52:35
libertarian
52:36
officiated one wedding and then the that
52:41
couple wound up having another wedding
52:42
after that so I don’t know if there had
52:45
a second one for actual family and stuff
52:48
or yeah and or legal reasons right right
52:51
yeah well III think James’s is ordained
52:54
master oh yeah okay
52:58
I think he got ordained out of the back
53:00
of Rolling Stone magazine or some but
53:03
the rapper Jack Church of go ahead
53:08
pastafarians yeah pastor Farion yeah but
53:11
but anyway uh the Church of Gesu the
53:14
Cthulhu get through it yeah so anyway uh
53:19
there’s another couple they got married
53:21
and that was their actual wedding and
53:24
shannond one of our friends she
53:27
officiated that at cuz she’s she’s an
53:29
actual ordained minister also I think a
53:32
little bit more than like out of the
53:33
back of a Rolling Stone magazine or
53:35
right off of some seedy corner of the
53:37
internet so anyway but yes so the
53:41
weddings now let’s see what who else we
53:42
have there for for speakers at this time
53:45
excuse me
53:53
I’m having coughing fits I’ve been sick
53:55
for like three months
53:57
Oh No so anyway on Friday we got Paul
54:04
Rosenberg yeah I’m not sure who that is
54:06
if it’s if it’s a crypto hippie Paul
54:09
Rosenberg I could be super excited about
54:12
that I heard I’ve heard a couple of
54:14
interviews with him Ben stone had
54:16
interviewed him on the bank waker
54:19
podcast so i’m hoping it’s the same guy
54:20
cool and then let’s see saturday Larry
54:25
Ludlow CJ Stephen wave how to travel
54:29
safe how to travel freely I don’t I
54:33
don’t know too much about that let’s see
54:37
Shane Ratliff from the vaanu podcast and
54:41
we’ll be under attack
54:43
Bret Lynott will be doing a presentation
54:46
I’m gonna I’m gonna absolutely destroy
54:49
this name Olay Petta Hoey
54:52
he is our Norwegian game developer who
54:56
lives in Indonesia so if somebody lives
54:59
like eight hours away they say that’s
55:01
too far to go Oh a comes in from from
55:04
Indonesia this idiot yeah this will be a
55:07
search time so when you say that you
55:10
can’t drive five hours to get there I’m
55:12
not sympathetic oh I couldn’t possibly
55:14
get there I’m in Chicago well you’re not
55:17
Indonesia is pretty much exactly halfway
55:19
around the world now pretty much yeah
55:22
yeah and then John John Phibes will be
55:25
there and he’s doing something with Olay
55:27
but John vibes he’s a writer for the
55:30
free thought project let’s see what else
55:34
we got Nick Hazleton my young apprentice
55:39
so Nick Nick
55:41
Hazleton I’ve known him on Facebook
55:44
since he’s like 14 or something like
55:45
that and his big thing is he dropped out
55:49
of school to make something of himself
55:51
and his dad was like the superintendent
55:54
or the the Dean of the charter school
55:57
that he was in right so it so I that
56:02
that’s got a that’s gonna be a little
56:04
bit awkward but yeah
56:05
he just he just didn’t feel like he was
56:07
getting anything out of school and he
56:08
wanted to he wanted to raise yaks and so
56:11
he dropped out he wanted dropping out of
56:13
school eventually and he’s got a yak
56:16
farm and he’s doing a thing out there
56:18
and and he’s happy with what he’s doing
56:21
he’s enjoying himself
56:22
hey ya k– farm yeah I’m familiar with a
56:27
yak what precisely is it the Yak fur or
56:31
yak meat what all of it all of it Oh in
56:35
the thing the thing is the the yak meat
56:37
is not regulated because it’s uh it’s
56:39
like a specialty meat or something like
56:41
that okay it’s not real a like kaolin
56:44
otters up but yeah the fur is valuable
56:46
the meat is valuable you probably even
56:49
get off yeah yeah yeah yeah he does a
56:53
yak milk too so I don’t know if he can
56:55
sell that but anyway so I he doesn’t
56:59
have a monocle he doesn’t have a top hat
57:01
and a monocle yet so yeah he’s not
57:03
having that kind of success but he’s
57:05
happy he’s having happiness success hey
57:07
listen if you can if you can etch out a
57:10
living doing what you love especially if
57:13
it involves yaks or not pakka’s or
57:16
something like that I’d say all you know
57:18
more power to you I remember we were
57:20
driving somewhere and we stopped at a
57:23
like a stop to get food or whatever in
57:26
like Pennsylvania and this guy pulled up
57:28
with a trailer full of alpacas and they
57:33
were all just chilling out in the
57:34
trailer and he had it was a guy he’d
57:37
quit his job he’d worked some kind of
57:40
9:00 to 5:00 and he quit it and started
57:42
farming alpacas and he was making I mean
57:45
he had a new truck I mean he made enough
57:46
money get a new truck but he was more
57:48
importantly he was super I was like
57:50
because I was just so curious I was like
57:52
so are you like you’re enjoy like is
57:55
this fun he’s like I’m having the most
57:57
fun I’ve ever had in my whole life he’s
57:58
like it’s like having twenty pets that I
58:00
make money off of okay because I I have
58:03
pets and don’t make any money off of
58:04
them so I can absolutely i I think it’s
58:08
cool so if this guy’s doing good on yaks
58:09
and then that’s awesome good for him so
58:13
so ok so if people want to check out the
58:17
the if people want to register for the
58:19
Midwest peace
58:19
Liberty fest they go to MPL fest org and
58:22
correct like Papa Lima fest dot org dot
58:27
org and you guys you take Bitcoin right
58:30
or there was one year you took Bitcoin
58:33
they’ve taken Bitcoin every year I don’t
58:35
know that they’re taking it this year I
58:36
can’t see why they wouldn’t right very
58:40
cool so Lou thank you again for joining
58:43
us
58:44
my back is letting me know that it’s
58:46
it’s time to wrap things up before I let
58:50
you go um is there any other final
58:52
thoughts anything you want to say that
58:54
you can get a chance to say already
58:56
anything else that you want to promote
58:58
like your show or anything else
59:00
Lou sander the floor is yours alright so
59:03
if you want to hear my old stuff on
59:05
freedom fiends you can hear my evolution
59:07
from brand-new radio show host up to
59:10
when we finally ended it
59:14
freedom fiends calm my stuff like I said
59:17
I’m the absentee landlord of the Lou
59:19
Sanders Show at Lou Sanders show calm I
59:21
should have some new material coming out
59:23
real soon because I have some interviews
59:25
from the last fest and and some other
59:28
stuff that I want to start knocking out
59:29
a little bit quicker and I picked up
59:31
some little technological things so I
59:33
should be able to do this a little bit
59:35
quicker and start getting those out
59:37
there and there’s some really good stuff
59:38
in there I’ve got an interview with
59:40
Scott Horton to release I think the next
59:43
one is gonna be Ben stone from a couple
59:44
years ago and yeah oh the one with CJ
59:50
cuz we recorded one in the middle of the
59:51
night after a couple of beverages so
59:53
it’s gonna be called the drunken history
59:54
podcast I haven’t listened joy I haven’t
59:57
listened to yes I don’t know how good or
59:59
how bad it is it might be terrible or it
60:02
might be the best thing you’ve ever done
60:04
and it’s probably not one or the other
60:06
it’s probably not somewhere in between
60:07
probably like either horrible or amazing
60:10
so or maybe both yeah yeah maybe the
60:14
best or worst at the same time you might
60:16
laugh and cry at the same time so yeah
60:19
Lucy and her show calm MPL fest org and
60:23
we’ll have those in the show notes and
60:26
so again Lou thank you again next time I
60:30
have you on I will actually have your
60:32
right oh no see I I will next time I
60:39
will have actually done some stuff so
60:42
that it would be a little bit less rough
60:43
this one but again thank you for joining
60:45
me stick around we’re gonna talk during
60:47
the during the outro guys thank you
60:50
again oh and also I’m sorry for a parent
60:52
my squeaky chair I don’t know if anyone
60:54
else can hear that but it’s been
60:55
annoying me all day so she’s been a fun
60:57
show we’re gonna say that we don’t this
60:59
wasn’t a real 36th episode this is real
61:02
fast if you don’t fast you can’t
61:04
complain fair enough I don’t know what
61:07
that means but we’re gonna we’re gonna
61:09
go with that you can’t you can’t
61:10
complain about this so guys thank you
61:12
again for joining me
61:13
be sure to tune in tomorrow night for
61:15
the writer’s block where Matt Wright
61:19
will have my former arch enemy and now
61:22
good friend Shane Sweeney on to talk
61:24
presumably about how much he loves me
61:28
now and maybe some like libertarian
61:31
stuff as well Shane is with the South
61:33
Carolina Libertarian Party and is just
61:35
an awesome guy so be sure to check that
61:37
out the writer’s block we will not be
61:40
having an episode of mr. America the
61:43
beard truth this Friday
61:45
this will be an actual sabbatical on the
61:48
Sabbath no less and have a great weekend
61:50
we will I believe also not be having an
61:53
episode of mr. America the beard of
61:54
truth with Jason lion on Monday either I
61:56
think he will be back the following
61:58
Friday but then be sure that the next
62:01
day uh this coming Tuesday to tune in to
62:04
see me and Matt on the muddy waters of
62:06
freedom where we cheerfully parse
62:09
through the week’s news with our special
62:12
our special Flair that we add to it and
62:14
and then next Wednesday be sure to tune
62:18
in to my fellow Americans I don’t even
62:20
know who my guest is but I guarantee
62:23
it’ll be great so again thank you for
62:25
joining us and and god bless you
62:29
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Spike Cohen
Spike Cohen
Local Jew. Contrarian stoic sentimentalist. Antidisestablishmentarianism. Will pet your dog.