(((My Fellow Americans))) #36: That Wasn’t Real Festival!

The Wrighter’s Block Episode 37 – Shane Sweeny Gets Wrighter’s Block
May 17, 2019
Lou Sander


About This Episode

Spike just got home and has zero notes, but thankfully he also has one of his favorite people on as a guest. Lou Sander, host of The Lousander Show, is here to talk about the upcoming Midwest Peace & Liberty Fest in Michigan!

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have any notes about him I know a lot
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about him my next guest is the host of
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the loose sander show he also is
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promoting an upcoming a festival that he
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has every year called the peace Midwest
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peace and liberty festival in faster
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festival
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yes fest festival whatever you want to
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call it Midwest peace and liberty
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gathering in Delton Michigan he has that
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it’s going to be June of this year I
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don’t know the date even that is how
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rough that he is one of the people that
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when I was transitioning into being an
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anarchist that when I would have sort of
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lingering doubts or questions he was one
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of the people I bounced up off of and he
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has made me the smug arrogant and yet
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aesthetically pleasing
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antico capitalist a see before you
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ladies and gentlemen without any further
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ado please welcome my guest my friend
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and yours mr. Lou sander Lou thank you
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so much for joining us thanks for having
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me and you’re welcome for my service I
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was glad that I could exorcise those
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demons from you you did you actually
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fought for my freedom and and that
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was a you have to fight hard you you
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engaged in late-night messaging for my
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freedom
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I appreciate you that well you’re very
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welcome
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so it’s it’s always a pleasure to be
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able to reach the reachable and thanks
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for not kicking and screaming and
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spitting pea soup on me as I was giving
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prayers of Anarchy for you but you
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weren’t you weren’t close enough casa
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casting the demons out right exactly
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exactly so guys be sure to comment with
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any questions or thoughts that you have
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from me and Lou and we will tell you if
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you are right or wrong now Lou before we
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get started about the the I I am used to
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having notes before we get used to the
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Midwest peace and liberty festival
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before we start talking about that I
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just want to ask you because I don’t
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think I really we talked about this
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before
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one was cuz I like when you looking back
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at your old post when you were a
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constitutionalist and you would say
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things like you know everything we need
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is right there in the Constitution what
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was actually going I thought that
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disappeared when I got promos upped
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because I had a post like that and that
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was from back around 2010-2011 yeah so I
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think what I was doing was I was
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paraphrasing so parents aren’t real
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smart they can’t carry on conversations
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all they can do is repeat stuff and
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quite frankly most of the people as far
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as their political stances go they don’t
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have any hard core beliefs they have
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stuff that their tribe says that they
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repeat like followed the Constitution
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yes we don’t need more laws we already
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have a great law it’s called the
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Constitution and it’s got all the
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vitamins and minerals in it that we need
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it’s got all the restraints it does it
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does what we need it to do and blah blah
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blah so really what got me out of that
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was when I read the Constitution that’s
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interesting that was a big one when I
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read when I didn’t just read the Bill of
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Rights but I actually read the first
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was it seven articles I thought oh wow
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this is not it’s not very free to me at
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all yeah well most of the
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self-proclaimed constitutionalists out
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there and I can’t even tell you how many
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I run into that admit that they’ve never
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read the Constitution now they like the
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idea but they like what it envisions and
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some of them maybe they tried to read it
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and they went through like the the first
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seven you know they went into the into
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the it’s not the preamble I was gonna
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say the analog yeah yeah fictional book
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fiction already has prologue so anyway
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so they they go to the preamble and they
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say we the people ah that means that we
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did it collectively jointly together you
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know it was never we the people because
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well none of us were alive back then and
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all our stuff so once you get past that
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big nonsense and then also I learned I
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read some things that were critical of
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the Constitution and I learned that you
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know much to my surprise that the
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Constitution wasn’t something that they
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came out of the hall the convention hall
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in 1787 for the for the coup for the
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conservative counter-revolution and
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people cheered and azar stuff and they
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said yeah yeah yeah and in some wait he
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says uh Franklin well what form of
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government have you given us sir a
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republic if you can keep it if you can
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keep it and yeah and interestingly
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enough there’s no actual evidence that
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he said that and there’s no mention of
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it until like several years later in the
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person who who really made it popular
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claims that he or heard it but nobody
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had ever said anything about it for like
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the first 50 years whatever but there’s
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no one mention it’s a lot like I
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remember fifty years ago so that’s fine
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yes so it’s it’s it’s it’s a founding
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father fan thing yeah yeah it’s it’s the
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it’s a religiosity that goes along with
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with statism it’s it’s like the the high
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school reputation because there’s always
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a girl they had to move away because she
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did something embarrassing that evolved
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going to the doctor to have her
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moved in and because she’d moved away
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everybody just said oh well that’s what
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happened well whether it did or not and
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it probably didn’t but I mean the bottom
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line is people make stuff up and in
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legends are are born and like you were
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equating the founding of the
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Constitution with an abortion
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I actually I think I might use that in
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the future that’s a actually I wasn’t I
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wasn’t thinking abortion I was thinking
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of well I’ll tell you afterwards but
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it’s it’s it’s it is it’s much more
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disgusting okay
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all right well then oh then I’ll just
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keep thinking abortion for now we get a
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comment Justin Turner says well the
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country ever come together and realize
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that you and I are the right ones one
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would hope but but no we don’t even put
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off is that I don’t let’s start with the
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guests let’s start with making the
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guests realize that I’m right when they
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one step at a time what forget the
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guests first up the guests and then then
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we go on to the world from there so yeah
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I I’m where you were I am the more I it
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was people like you that we’re saying
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have you read the Constitution I’m like
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yeah of course I have all ten amendments
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bro yeah so so what happens is somebody
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will go and they’ll they’ll get the
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Constitution and they’ll be reading the
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preamble We the People to make the more
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perfect union
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all right right that sounds pretty good
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at least yes articles general welfare
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well the a circular an article one is
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not really exciting so they’re like I’m
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gonna skip us I’m gonna skip ahead and
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see how this see if it gets any better
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so they’re going through a vertical one
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and they’re not even article one section
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eight yet where it says that the
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Congress has the power of unlimited
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taxation national debt interfering with
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Commerce make all laws necessary and
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proper to ensure a proper welfare state
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so they don’t go through that they just
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look at article one like huh too long
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didn’t read at least yeah yeah yeah
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they’re like let’s get to that second
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amendment yeah yes so but a new much
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second amendment cuz that would be
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reckless
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well you know
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you’re gonna have a second amendment you
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have to do with the legal way um the
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then there’s the so then there’s of
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course the habeas corpus clause which
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basically says government can suspend
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habeas corpus if and it gives all this
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weasel wording for all the different
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reasons ways that it can kidnap and
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murder you without even having a stated
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reason as long as it’s added during the
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time of war rebellion or crisis or and
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then even leaves any any conditions that
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may require it meaning like if the
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government decides that the government
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needs to do this to you
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that’s fine which is why the the NDAA s
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that you know allowed Obama and now
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Trump to indefinitely hold American
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citizens without a warrant it was ruled
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constitutional right cuz it he yes well
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it comes from article 1 section 9 Clause
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2 so the Congress has the power to
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suspend the privilege not to write the
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privilege religious corpus in in time of
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the foreign invasion or domestic
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rebellion whenever the public safety may
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require it may require up yeah I’m not
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using notes either here so who who is it
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that but I’m pretty darn close I may
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have been off by like a comma or
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something like that may require it’s the
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big part yeah so who who determines
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that’s rebellion so Congress has the
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power to determine that that there is a
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rebellion so if people tried to alter or
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abolish the form of government when it
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becomes tyrannical right away from the
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Declaration of Independence if they try
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to do that that’s considered a rebellion
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and in that case the privilege of the
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writ of habeas corpus gives can be
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suspended right so all it takes is the
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interpretation of Congress creditors to
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say yep we’re at a point to where we
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need to do this because public safety
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and the oversight is from them so it’s
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sort of like when you know the police
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kill someone and then the police get
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together and decide that the police
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really needed to kill that guy and it
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just you know couldn’t be avoided as you
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said yeah it’s exact same thing with the
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same oversight whenever you see a
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picture of the Supreme Court you should
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just have the caption the government
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investigated itself and found
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did nothing wrong or so they were though
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sometimes throw us a bone and go you
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know that thing that happened 50 years
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ago we’re super sorry about that and
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here’s some money that we’re gonna Rob
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from you and give back to the survivors
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to make up for it aren’t we great and
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progressive but like in terms of what’s
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happening right now they’re like no no
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no that’s all fine and and we’re gonna
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lock up anyone is even you know leaking
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that this is happening because of course
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it’s fine it’s fine but we also don’t
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want you to know and and you know we’ll
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cage anyone who tries to kidnap anyone
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that tries to tell you so so yeah and of
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course Joe Patriot that thinks with this
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flag instead of his brain he’ll he’ll
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say something like well our government
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would never do that or our military
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would never would never take up arms
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against the citizenry and then when you
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point out that they did that to their
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fellow veterans during the Bonus Army
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protests and as a matter of fact who was
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a General MacArthur was part of that and
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not eisenhower I think Patton was
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involved so they’ll say that our
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military would never do that you point
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out that that they did it and then
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reflexively without even a thought to
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say well that was different or they they
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probably had a good reason for it so
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that so so they would say that quicker
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than I did but that wasn’t real
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constitutionalism yeah that wasn’t real
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the army not doing that yeah so so
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really when you look at when you look at
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the Constitution and you everybody has
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this cartoon version of it that they’re
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just repeating that it’s this thing
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about freedom if you read the seven
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articles you don’t see a lot of freedom
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in there you have the ten amendments
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that were a pacifier to keep the
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anti-federalist and pretty much a
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general population from from launching a
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second American Revolution and writing
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down the coup so I as a matter of fact
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the the Constitution was so unpopular
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had it gone to a vote across the country
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had we the people decided all right with
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that with a ballot it would have got
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killed big time the only place that went
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to a vote of the plebiscite meaning the
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general voting public was in the state
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of Rhode Island wrote
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where he was killed 11 to 1 they didn’t
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measure that emotional studies no and no
17:54
they told you that co2 aka plant food is
17:56
bad but the Rhode Island was also the
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last state to join the union and they
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basically did it
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Don Hamel Tony basically told them hey
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you’re gonna join our little association
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here or it might be a shame if your
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windows got broken out or your place got
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put out fire if something’s gonna happen
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to this place yeah yeah so basically
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they get threatening into it you know
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because domestic security or some crap
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but if you just look at the difference
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in the in the language that’s used the
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the conservative counter-revolutions
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says that in times of rebellion the
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military may be used to put down
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rebellion it also defines that rebellion
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is it can define it as treason as says
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that those people don’t deserve a trial
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or to head their grievances heard even
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though you know you got that stupid
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First Amendment but the language of the
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Declaration of Independence the radicals
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decided that in government government
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becomes tyrannical is right of the
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people to alter or abolish it so just
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just look at the difference there well
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and I mean these are the same I mean
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everyone loves the tree of liberty quote
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unless it’s actually applied to police
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officers or you know you know anyone who
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actually would read on you you know as
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when used against with that do you know
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the origins of that quote the tree and
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for those who don’t know that the tree
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of LeWitt says the tree of liberty
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should be refreshed from time to time
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again no notes refresh from time to time
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with the blood of patriots and tyrants
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it’s it’s natural fertilizer or
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something like that
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meaning sometimes Liberty will have to
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be refreshed by killing people that are
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trying to keep you from being free
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anyways go ahead with the so I don’t
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know I don’t know the background now I
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don’t remember who the letter was to but
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Jefferson was in France at the time as
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an ambassador and so no most view
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constitution lickers Jefferson was not a
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part of the Constitutional Convention
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the writing or any of that crap because
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he was out of the country
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had he been in the country he probably
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would have talked it people into into
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burning the conspirators but anyhow so
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he was he was awaiting his copy the
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Constitution he had not seen it yet and
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he says well I’m sure that there are
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probably some good parts in there but
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I’m sure that there are also some really
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bad ones and the reason for the
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Constitution the the reason that the
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Conservatives said that they need a new
20:26
central government was because of Shay’s
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so-called rebellion I the the amount of
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violence that that happened in Shay’s
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rebellion I need on both sides I think
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that I think the death toll was lower
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than after like most major sporting
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championship games Soho sign there
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there’s much less destruction than when
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Detroit sports team wins a championship
20:51
it’s really the Lions because they don’t
20:54
win championships I was gonna say I was
20:56
gonna say do we have any recent
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empirical evidence for this yeah
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well the the Tigers did pretty good the
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the Red Wings were very good for quite a
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long time and the Pistons were pretty
21:08
good too they had some back to back
21:10
stuff but anyway so you didn’t what you
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had was you had a lot of protesting and
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but all that was going on was they were
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going into these court proceedings where
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property was being foreclosed upon and
21:22
they were disrupting the proceedings so
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they were shouting shouting people down
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they were also calling for points of
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order and stuff like that sign they’re
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they’re trying to be heard and they were
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nonviolent about it but the thing is the
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the Massachusetts state government tried
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to expedite the the payment of the war
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debt so they why the accelerated
21:46
repayment of it but they also wanted it
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to be paid in specie so it had be in
21:52
silver now out in the western frontier
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there was no sir silver available and
21:56
they should have been asking for moon
21:57
rocks or unicorn tusks right because it
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just didn’t exist so what you had was a
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clear case of of taxation without
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representation because of the people out
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in the frontier they weren’t being
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represented right now they were getting
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trounced on by by Boston where the
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where the majority of the population was
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yeah they it was just like any big city
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that dominates a mostly rural state
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right right right but they they weren’t
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even protesting against paying taxes
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they were protesting it against the
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provisions of it
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so it’s not like they’re a bunch of
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aggregates out there saying taxation was
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theft and and you know alter and abolish
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you guys know they were just they were
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just saying we can’t pay you let us pay
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you in a way that we could you know we
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can give you
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I don’t Buffalo pelts or you know
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something like that like there’s not I
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mean what-what would did they have gold
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out there yet or that was before the the
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gold strikes I well the gold was in the
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new world for quite a long time whether
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whether it was circulated in really
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large amounts back then I don’t I don’t
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really know yeah but how they obviously
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had some medium to trade with so why not
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accept that because they didn’t want
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that in Boston so yeah well the thing is
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they couldn’t use like the the script
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that was that was being used so I know a
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lot of cases they were bartering and and
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and just like with the whiskey rebellion
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there was a shortage of specie out in
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out in western Pennsylvania and whiskey
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was used as a currency right I mean you
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gotta remember it wasn’t for most of
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probably a good portion of the 1800s
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there wasn’t an actual real currency I
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don’t write a US dollar right right
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right right
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so that’s that something came about
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later
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yeah the greenbacks that were pretty
23:46
short-lived you had the Continental that
23:48
was that made the Zimbabwe dollar look
23:51
like nothing but the but the big thing
23:53
is I just started learning a little bit
23:56
about history I worked a lot about
23:57
economics and also a bless me Father for
24:01
I have sinned
24:02
it’s been several years I’ve been
24:04
engaged in the political process but I
24:06
worked on a congressional campaign and
24:10
when I joined that campaign as a holy
24:13
cow I guess I’m just gonna have to read
24:15
this constitution through and through
24:17
and and I was one of those guys I read
24:19
today I’m like oh my god falling asleep
24:22
here right sorry no but I forced myself
24:26
to read
24:27
all the junk that’s in there it’s like
24:29
where’s where’s all this Liberty people
24:32
are talking about right so obviously
24:34
obviously it’s the people that have only
24:36
read the Bill of Rights and they just
24:39
assume that everything else is Chuck
24:41
full yet goodness but I think the North
24:43
Korean Constitution has a Bill of Rights
24:45
in it yeah chapter 5 is their
24:47
fundamental rights and duties article
24:49
sixties having guarantees freedom of
24:51
speech the press assembly political
24:55
demonstration and and says that the
24:57
state has to has to allow peep everybody
25:00
into the political process and article
25:02
68 freedom of religion sign between
25:05
those two articles you got the yet the
25:06
First Amendment I remember reading at
25:10
maybe it was you that sent it to me
25:11
someone sent me a list of a link to the
25:14
North Korean Constitution their part
25:16
with what their human being or whatever
25:18
they call it yeah I was probably you
25:20
someone you were someone level a new
25:22
people fundamental um and it was like we
25:25
mean reading it you know you upper-upper
25:31
you use southern Canadians um but I read
25:35
it and I’m like this actually in any way
25:38
sounds better than the Bill of Rights
25:39
which just shows how worthless is you
25:42
have people that are eating tree bark to
25:44
survive and if they try to leave they
25:46
get shot but you know but they got this
25:47
piece of paper that says that whether
25:51
they’re even allowed to read it or not
25:52
that says they have all these rights
25:53
guaranteed by the government you know I
25:56
guess they’re just not doing it right
25:57
it’s not real North Korean that rely on
26:00
several Constitution yeah not real
26:02
Constitution yeah so so yeah so that’s
26:05
so that’s interesting so so you did the
26:08
Congressional Campaign read the
26:10
Constitution and then you’re like okay
26:12
this is I don’t think I agree with this
26:15
well it was a little bit more than that
26:17
the the candidate was co-opted but I
26:21
think before he had he had even won the
26:26
primary I think I think he was
26:30
definitely co-opted before he even won
26:31
the election he was John Bainer smoking
26:34
buddy early on before the election had
26:37
even happened okay so so I watch this
26:40
guy
26:41
just basically go from Anakin to Darth
26:44
and he was one of these round call Ron
26:46
Paul guys but but like a lot of the Ron
26:48
Paul candidates he was he was more
26:51
saying what he needed to say and it
26:53
wasn’t an actual reflection of true
26:57
conviction it was well I believe this
27:00
you know freedom is important so long as
27:02
it’s done illegally as long as it
27:03
doesn’t interfere with with the safety
27:05
of others and blah blah blah rights just
27:07
all the not specific goes along with it
27:09
so after he won I got the job offer and
27:13
rather than joining up I says I’m going
27:18
to have to respectfully decline thank
27:20
you very much good luck to you
27:22
see ya no well good well we’re glad
27:26
you’re here
27:28
so the the Midwest peace and Liberty
27:31
festival which I’ve had done a terrible
27:33
job so far are promoting virtually
27:35
mostly because I like literally I came
27:37
in I put fish from the store I threw
27:42
that into the freezer and then ran in
27:44
here and started setting stuff up I’ve
27:46
had no time so we but we do have
27:49
thankfully we have a clip to a an ad
27:53
that you’ve done audio clips that I’m
27:55
gonna play now for the Midwest peace and
27:57
Liberty festival and then you can we can
27:59
talk all about it so here we go it is
28:01
you’re right your duty and your
28:04
privilege to attend the seventh annual
28:06
Midwest piece of Liberty fest elder the
28:08
circle play set
28:09
deli Michigan just south side of
28:11
Kalamazoo from Thursday June 20th to
28:14
Monday June 24th this is a most
28:16
important Liberty fest of our lifetimes
28:18
this is both an adult family-friendly
28:20
event there will be all sorts of outdoor
28:23
activities games discussions and bacon
28:25
lots of bacon scheduled speakers both
28:29
lead
28:29
CJ Kilmer of the dangerous history
28:31
podcast and Brett the novel school sucks
28:34
make sure your voice is heard by
28:36
rounding up your friends and family
28:38
getting them registered today at MPL
28:40
fest org as Mike Papa Lima fest dot org
28:44
dogs welcome blogger Alicia’s
28:46
recommended and a vote for an Archon is
28:48
really a vote for Gore fest so I like
28:53
the references to most important of our
28:55
lifetime and round up your friends and
28:56
register that he’s got to do if you’re
28:58
gonna if you’re gonna go to the midwest
28:59
peace and liberty festival get in line
29:02
and go through the process like i found
29:04
coming through the front door come into
29:06
the front door we have a wall with a
29:08
beautiful door come through that and
29:11
let’s see your papers so tell me about
29:14
cuz i I this is the is it 19th annual
29:17
now this is a seventh oh seventh annual
29:20
and sorry so you’ve had a few of these
29:23
tell us about how did this get started
29:25
like what what got you started with the
29:27
Midwest peace and liberty festival oh
29:30
gosh this is really a it’s it’s almost
29:35
storybook to tell it and and its origin
29:39
started out before I became involved
29:41
with the group but there were a handful
29:43
of people that they were the the early
29:46
membership of the Michigan peace of
29:48
Liberty coalition and they were sitting
29:51
around together and like January or
29:53
February of I think 2013 in somebody’s
29:58
living room huddling for warmth and
30:00
everything because it’s Michigan and
30:02
there’s thing they’re saying yeah what
30:05
we should go camping this summer yeah
30:07
that sounds like a great idea and they
30:09
talked about it a little bit and
30:11
eventually they’re like well you know
30:12
what let’s listen find a bunch of people
30:14
ask as many people as we can and it got
30:17
turned into a Facebook of that and I was
30:20
at this time I was a pretty much
30:23
newly minted anarchy is still trying to
30:24
find out where I was and everything and
30:26
I was even a radio show host yet a
30:28
matter of fact I wasn’t even a blogger
30:30
yet I think I was the I was the admin
30:35
for the freedom fiends Facebook page so
30:38
basically yeah so basically I would post
30:40
memes and then sweep up after they did
30:42
the shows so anyway you were what what
30:46
Matt and I need and Jason need for
30:48
muddied waters just like a lackey like
30:50
please do this cuz because we don’t feel
30:53
like doing this yeah my Lackey time is
30:56
is in the past um no no I didn’t mean
30:58
you I’m a tweet but we need we call oh
31:01
yeah I need someone no I mean you should
31:03
do this for us I’ve said we need someone
31:06
like that so if anyone out there would
31:08
like to be a lackey unpaid also unpaved
31:11
Lackey um be sure to hit us up in the in
31:14
the slide into our messages and we will
31:17
we will hook you up immediately so the
31:19
way yeah well what you just did I heard
31:22
an advertisement on the the freedom
31:24
fiends for an unpaid Facebook admin and
31:27
I’d never add mundane pages before but
31:29
I’m like I was so I was on the podcast
31:31
and and I’ve got a pretty good meme
31:33
stash I could do this
31:34
so I said Michael a message in and he
31:38
got me set up on there and I started
31:41
making posts and everything else and and
31:43
I basically took ownership of the
31:46
freedom fiends page mm-hmm so I would I
31:48
would promote shows and everything else
31:50
and write and also post stuff that I
31:52
wanted to post but it worked out for you
31:55
so they they did what they called fiend
31:56
sourcing so they think they made a call
31:59
to action to their to their Westerners I
32:02
answered the call and eventually Michael
32:05
asked me if I want to be a blogger
32:06
that’s pretty popular my satire posts
32:08
were the best ones so I did a little bit
32:12
then I also did a little bit libertarian
32:14
stuff and then eventually when the first
32:17
Midwest piece of Liberty fest happened I
32:19
did part of the live report the feet on
32:23
the field report so okay so been stoned
32:27
the bad Quaker of backpacker calm he
32:30
came up with his wife and and his dog
32:33
and solving mysteries along the way
32:36
and we did a broadcast for Beth its
32:39
camper so we called in to the freedom
32:43
fiends and and did a little broadcast on
32:45
their live from the event
32:47
cool cool so that was the first year
32:49
yeah and then later a couple months
32:52
later I think it was Michael sent me a
32:54
microphone and said here do something
32:56
with this and and I wanna I wound up
32:59
doing my doing my own show or going on
33:05
going on the freedom fiends and then now
33:06
I have my own show the the Lou Sanders
33:09
show that I’m the absentee landlord of
33:11
because I would put out any episodes in
33:13
a while anything but you put up the ad
33:16
for the festival so why was last month
33:19
while supposed to some guest appearances
33:21
too but and that’s true that’s true so
33:23
going back to the original story of how
33:26
we got started so I see I see this post
33:28
I’m sitting in my apartment yeah I’m
33:29
like oh man I wonder if these anarchists
33:33
out there on Facebook or real or if
33:34
they’re just like government agents
33:35
trolling and trying to bust me you know
33:38
cuz I mean there’s there’s an awful lot
33:39
of government agents out there just
33:40
looking for me so anyway just after you
33:44
yeah yeah because I’ve been libertarian
33:46
for like a whole 30 minutes now so as
33:48
they were onto me at like 29 minutes ago
33:52
but anyway so I I see this event and I’m
33:55
like hey this is pretty cool cuz I paint
33:58
somewhat local page has shared it so I
34:01
clicked yes I’m going I posted in there
34:03
it says this sounds great I can’t wait
34:05
to go I’m so excited but stuff like that
34:07
and a couple minutes later I got friend
34:10
requests from a couple of the organizers
34:12
who were also founders of the Michigan
34:15
peace Liberty coalition and I got
34:16
invited out to some of the meetups so
34:19
they’d have like at least one sometimes
34:21
two monthly meetups and just discuss
34:24
what about the roads and in all these
34:27
different subjects but it was also into
34:29
Somalia yeah but it was also
34:32
okay what can we do to get more freedom
34:34
one guy was doing a presentation on
34:35
Bitcoin that was the first meetup I went
34:37
to and Bitcoin was still pretty new at
34:39
the time so most of people there didn’t
34:42
know a whole lot about it but this guy
34:44
was out I’m out in front on it so I
34:47
thought that was pretty interesting I
34:49
got a chance to meet these
34:50
these people that I was Facebook friends
34:53
with but I’d never met in real life
34:54
before and it was really good time but
34:58
like the first meetup I was invited to I
35:02
it at I may have had some stuff going on
35:04
but I may have been a little bit lazy
35:06
and to be honest wasn’t when I heard
35:10
about the fastest yeah this is gonna be
35:11
great it’s gonna be great
35:12
but I probably would have backed out
35:15
because a lot of people they they get
35:17
really excited about an idea of doing
35:19
something but what comes it’s time to do
35:20
it like go camping for a weekend and
35:22
having fun
35:23
for some reason they they get a little
35:25
bit funky and they they back out of it
35:26
they find excuses not to do these things
35:29
and then they complain that there’s
35:30
nothing to do there they’re Antico
35:33
agoraphobics right like there’s you mean
35:36
outside with people no I’m on Mikhail’s
35:39
there well it’s it’s not just ank you
35:42
said this is really a common trend of
35:46
people that they always find a reason to
35:49
back out of stuff at the last minute so
35:51
it is like when there’s a Facebook event
35:53
and you see 1,000 people have have
35:56
answered that yes they’re going you know
36:00
that basically one up 100 might show up
36:03
right right right right
36:05
so in quite frankly I would have found
36:08
some I probably found some BS excuse not
36:10
to go but by that time I was so involved
36:13
with the group because I mean we’re
36:14
getting together like almost every
36:16
weekend and doing stuff so I we’d have
36:19
our meet us but we’d also have camp outs
36:21
in people’s backyards and what I really
36:24
liked about it was you had this this
36:27
family environment and it was it was all
36:30
based on the principles of anarchism
36:32
some bacon and bacon
36:35
lotsa bacon so this year’s was gonna
36:38
call it the bacon fest what we called
36:40
the bacon fest the Midwest bacon and
36:41
bacon fest um so besides the bacon which
36:45
by the way we’re not joking when we say
36:47
that there’s an ungodly amount of pork
36:50
products being consumed meat in general
36:51
being consumed that these things would
36:54
the the fully what is it a full capacity
36:56
assault kitchen yes yes it’s got the
37:00
bump stock it’s got the shoulder thing
37:02
that goes up
37:04
and make it real murdery um they say
37:08
magazine release yeah so besides the
37:12
bacon tell us about what’s gonna be at
37:14
this at this festival this year I there
37:17
was a mention of the school sucks guy
37:19
which I thought was funny but but tells
37:21
some of the speakers and things tell us
37:23
about what’s going on at this festival
37:24
are you familiar with school sucks
37:26
I’ve heard of it but I’ve never is it
37:29
like school sucks calm school sex school
37:34
sex project people don’t use web
37:36
addresses anymore they just basically do
37:38
hazel searches yeah sorry if he plays
37:40
school sex podcast your school sucks
37:42
project
37:43
brett-brett story is pretty interesting
37:45
he went to school to become a teacher
37:47
and he went through school and and I
37:51
think he may have done a year or two of
37:53
actual teaching but he got a look at
37:56
what was going on in the schools and
37:57
then he was also a big fan of John
38:00
Taylor Gatto so Gatto was the guy that
38:04
spent 30-some years in the New York
38:06
public school system right a Teacher of
38:09
the Year a couple times and he basically
38:11
blew the whistle on how it’s just a big
38:13
giant indoctrination program yeah it’s a
38:15
big mess
38:16
right yeah well not so much the
38:18
indoctrination but the but but the
38:19
crappy education that kids get out of it
38:22
right so Brett he he left being he left
38:27
like regular teaching and got involved
38:29
in other types of things so I think he
38:31
did some tutoring and but he also
38:34
watched a school sucks project and it’s
38:37
about alternatives to the mainline
38:41
school system because I mean even the
38:43
even the private schools and in the
38:46
parochial schools they still follow a
38:48
lot of the government model so yeah what
38:51
well and and and even if they’re not
38:52
using you know the federal No Child Left
38:54
Behind standard or whatever they’re
38:56
still using the Prussian school model
38:58
that was designed to make you know
39:00
factory workers and soldiers like I mean
39:03
it’s not a it’s not a model for people
39:06
to expand their their minds and horizons
39:08
it’s about teaching them to become
39:10
compliant and you know Pavlov’s dogs
39:12
responses to bells and stuff like that
39:15
so I mean it’s it schools the school
39:18
unless you’re talking like a Montessori
39:20
or one of these other where they’re
39:21
using a completely different model
39:23
schools are schools yeah they want they
39:26
want people that are smart enough to
39:27
pull the trigger but not but not smart
39:30
enough to ask why to ask white right
39:31
exactly exactly so so so that’s
39:35
historian in nutshell so if you go to
39:37
school sucks podcasts and was so that
39:39
there’s a lot of great stuff on it
39:41
I barely caught a drop in the bucket of
39:44
it but I mean there’s some real good
39:46
stuff on there and and brett has some
39:48
pretty good conversations with people as
39:51
a matter of fact there was one that I’ve
39:53
been meaning to listening to one series
39:55
they did on procrastination and well you
40:01
know seriously I seriously do want to
40:03
listen to I just haven’t gotten around
40:04
to it
40:05
yeah he did one about echinacea but I
40:07
just keep forgetting to anyway I okay
40:14
anyway so uh cool so it and so who so
40:18
what are the other types of people that
40:20
are that are gonna be on there who else
40:21
he had booked for okay so so we had prop
40:24
CJ and CJ is from the dangerous pisser
40:28
dangerous history podcasts hmm and I
40:32
love that that podcast that is that is
40:35
one that I subscribe to so I I’m
40:39
subscribed to his email list so I get an
40:41
email when his shows come out and I
40:45
download them and I listen to him and I
40:48
I don’t think there’s more than just a
40:50
couple shows that I’ve listened to only
40:52
once I think most of them I’ve gone
40:54
through and listened to several times as
40:57
a matter of fact his his series on the
40:59
war for American independence and then
41:02
also revolutionary aftershocks talking
41:04
about the about the response to Shea’s
41:08
so-called rebellion
41:09
oh yeah going back to that so Sam Adams
41:12
mr. freedom he he threw a fit a fit over
41:17
Shay’s rebellion he’s like it’s okay to
41:19
rebel against a king but if you rebelled
41:21
against our republic then you need to
41:23
have your balls shaved right that’s
41:25
reason yeah yeah I
41:27
he went Hueber status on there
41:30
so yeah so when uh in that letter they
41:38
reference Shay’s rebellion and and how
41:40
people were throwing throwing a hissy
41:41
fit in a panic saying that America has
41:44
devolved into anarchy eek you know
41:46
because some people had a complaint over
41:49
taxes right right right because that
41:52
wasn’t what started the whole thing in
41:53
the first place yeah so yeah the
41:55
conservative counter-revolution that was
41:58
in the states we’re actually behind this
42:00
because what what they got out of this
42:02
was before they had to put down their
42:04
own rebellions so by coming up with a
42:07
centralized power yes they ceded some of
42:11
their power but they also got the
42:14
federal military to go and put down
42:17
rebellions for them to help them my well
42:20
and and I’ll and also Jews I mean they
42:22
would do some of the dirty work so it’s
42:26
like when when the Whiskey Rebellion
42:28
happened and the largest distiller of
42:31
whiskey or one of the largest distillers
42:34
at the very least George Washington now
42:36
when when when it when they had that 25
42:38
percent whiskey tax and he sent 13,000
42:41
troops into western Pennsylvania by way
42:43
13,000 troops is more than he ever had
42:46
under his direct control as the
42:47
commander in chief of the of the
42:49
Continental Army but anyway when he sent
42:52
him when he sat down into western
42:54
Pennsylvania to put down one of the
42:56
smaller of the whiskey protests whiskey
42:59
tax protests now that was that was just
43:04
the Constitution being constitutional
43:07
because it is constitutional to lay
43:11
taxes without any limit its
43:12
constitutional to have the military put
43:15
down two rebellions so that was and like
43:21
I said he was one of the largest
43:22
distillers of whiskey and the way the
43:23
tax was written it was a 25 percent tax
43:26
on every gallon produced for the small
43:29
producers that couldn’t afford the the
43:32
somewhat nominal fee of not nominal
43:35
annual fee so if you were large enough
43:38
to pay the annual fee it didn’t cost a
43:39
whole lot but if you were a smaller
43:41
producer you couldn’t afford to pay that
43:43
nominal fee
43:44
and therefore you had to do the 25% of
43:46
each calendar deuced so I’d imagine that
43:49
the larger producers had absolutely no
43:50
problem with that because they cut out
43:52
their competition and made made it more
43:53
profitable for them the larger producers
43:56
like George Washington yes that is
43:58
correct it’s funny how that works so
44:02
that sounds like a bit of a scam but
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so we have to do that about partway
44:41
through so yeah so so so you’ve got
44:45
professor CJ’s gonna actually be there
44:47
yes and I don’t I don’t know what topic
44:51
is going to be but he’ll be doing a
44:52
presentation this year last year it was
44:56
about being intellectually omnivorous or
44:59
avoiding intellectual intellectual
45:02
incest or something like basically his
45:05
point was don’t go to all the same
45:08
source for everything avoid the
45:10
confirmation bias that goes along with
45:12
it right exactly
45:15
so it’s it’s look at things that that
45:18
are different from what you are from
45:23
what you tend to believe so if you want
45:25
to if you were an Austrian economist
45:30
there’s there’s nothing wrong with
45:32
reading Keynesian economics so if
45:35
somebody like well what’s his name I
45:38
think Glenn Hubbard there’s a couple
45:40
Keynesian economists that are supposedly
45:42
not too bad but I like with them yeah
45:47
there’s nothing wrong with reading them
45:48
you don’t have to accept it as Holy Writ
45:50
and if you hear something that’s
45:53
challenging to what your beliefs are now
45:56
if you get bothered by it
45:58
you have to question how good your
45:59
beliefs are that’s the thing I’ve been
46:03
embracing stoicism the last at the last
46:05
year or so to try to be more mindful and
46:08
stuff like that and it’s been really
46:10
cool to let go of my how do i word it so
46:17
a lot of people and I was one of them
46:20
you you find something that you really
46:22
strongly believe in and you’re being
46:24
right about that becomes part of almost
46:26
like your your how you see yourself in
46:29
terms of your self-worth and so when you
46:30
debate it with people you’re not just
46:32
debating that subject you’re debating
46:35
how right you are and how therefore how
46:38
smart and really intelligent you are
46:40
about it and that feeds so much bias
46:43
because now you’re actively looking for
46:45
things that that feed the bias that
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you’re right and you actively push away
46:49
things that say well maybe you’re wrong
46:51
about that and it allows you to and
46:54
that’s how people get kind of you know
46:55
caught up in these belief systems and
46:56
then they’ll often when they change
46:59
beliefs something really hit some hard
47:01
and they change they go right back to
47:03
you know they go from being a you know I
47:05
see it a lot with you know libertarians
47:07
they’ll they’ll become conservatives or
47:09
they were conservatives or progressives
47:10
or whatever then they become libertarian
47:12
and then they just get you know sucked
47:14
into that that’s now you know now and
47:17
their specific brand of libertarianism
47:19
whether it’s min or Casimir anarchism er
47:22
mutualism or whatever it is they get
47:24
sucked into that and they’re like you
47:26
know well no this is right and and it’s
47:29
been very freeing the last you know year
47:30
or so that when I find things that
47:32
challenge my beliefs I actively am like
47:35
oh maybe I’m wrong let me find out so I
47:37
can you know so I can be right about or
47:39
be closer to write about it so that’s
47:41
really cool that he’s doing that and we
47:43
actually talked about him lost a lot on
47:45
the first episode that we that we don’t
47:48
talk about we talked about him Shiloh
47:52
larch has commented she apparently is a
47:54
Paul Gordon fan
47:55
she said just fast-forward to the Paul
47:58
Gordon part and then later she said I
48:00
heard Paul Gordon uses anchor FM and I
48:03
don’t know if that’s true
48:04
so yeah block and report her blocked and
48:09
reported so is there going
48:12
to be an ongoing battle in the bacon
48:14
wars at the Midwest peace and Liberty
48:16
festival or is there is there a an
48:19
armistice that’s been called so that
48:21
people can enjoy the day well much like
48:24
the Christmas truce during World War one
48:26
Paul and I call a ceasefire now he does
48:30
come over to the assault kitchen and all
48:32
the bacon is prepared over there is
48:34
fried and he eats a fried bacon and I
48:38
tell you what he he has a very contented
48:42
look upon his face as he eats the fried
48:44
bacon dare I say dare I say he looks
48:47
like he’s climaxing Wow
48:50
that’s yeah that’s a mental image that I
48:52
needed in this moment but I also is
48:59
there footage of this because you know
49:00
that could blow apart he has I mean he’s
49:02
built up a pretty solid brand of being
49:05
the the you know the bacon Baker so to
49:09
see him eating fried bacon or fryin if
49:13
you will and and and enjoying it that
49:16
could be kind of scandalous now they
49:19
could and I’m pretty sure I’m there
49:23
there may be some video footage I’m
49:25
pretty sure there’s some audio footage
49:27
of it too of him talking about it so I
49:31
think he described it as like like a
49:33
pork orgasm in his mouth don’t quote me
49:38
on that I know I know I have the
49:41
punctuation wrong just another a series
49:45
of really positive mental images with
49:46
all of that so thank you Shiloh for
49:48
starting that conversation so that’s
49:51
cool so so it starts is at what June 9th
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that it starts this year it’s is
49:58
Thursday June 20th so it starts it
50:00
summer sometime in the morning totally
50:04
totally absurd the roughest show I’ve
50:07
done it’s the time that I had to flee a
50:10
hurricane and then I got back and was
50:12
flooding and and I did that show too but
50:16
uh yeah anybody said go ahead and say
50:17
June 20th June 20th and it ends on
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Monday June 24th and Monday Monday
50:24
morning is a is a teardown put your
50:27
stuff away and go home day but there is
50:30
one event on that morning I do what’s
50:32
called final breakfast so it’s a big
50:35
giant group breakfast and I prepare food
50:38
for everybody’s still gonna be there on
50:39
Monday morning and there’s usually a
50:41
pretty good-sized crowd that’s there so
50:43
people will donate leftover potatoes
50:46
bacon eggs stuff like that and I’ll whip
50:48
it all up I have a I think it’s a
50:52
four-four gallon cast-iron Dutch oven so
50:56
it’s six yeah it’s a 16 inch diameter
50:59
and is it’s the largest one that I’ve
51:01
seen sold you know I mean outside of
51:03
maybe something that you need like a
51:04
gang of illegal immigrants to move
51:07
around for you but anyway so I fill that
51:10
thing up with hash browns and I just do
51:12
bunches and bunches of bunches of eggs
51:15
and and I fry up bacon and sausage
51:17
whatever is there and you would think
51:21
that that would be enough but wait
51:23
there’s more so we set up the table to
51:26
where everybody can go through the
51:27
little buffet line and last year was
51:29
really nice because III wouldn’t well I
51:31
went to go put all the stuff over there
51:32
there was no room and I had to move
51:34
stuff around because people brought all
51:37
this leftover fruit and stuff sighing
51:40
there were strawberries and and cherries
51:42
and bananas and just all this different
51:44
fruit cut up ready to go and it was
51:46
pretty awesome
51:48
no often people will bring over at
51:51
bagels and I just all the stuff that
51:54
they have leftover as a matter of fact
51:55
some of the people that leave on Sunday
51:57
will drop stuff off on Sunday night
52:00
saying here there’s four final breakfast
52:02
there was a vegetarian she stayed and
52:05
she she doesn’t need a meetin I mean
52:08
everything’s got me cuz I even fried the
52:10
hash browns and bacon grease but she
52:13
donated a couple bags of potatoes so
52:14
it’s this big giant
52:16
voluntary thing nice that’s really cool
52:19
and there was was there a wedding there
52:21
one year or was that just like a
52:23
gimmicky thing I thought I saw pictures
52:26
of a wedding there were two weddings oh
52:30
wow yeah so James weeks the stripping
52:35
libertarian
52:36
officiated one wedding and then the that
52:41
couple wound up having another wedding
52:42
after that so I don’t know if there had
52:45
a second one for actual family and stuff
52:48
or yeah and or legal reasons right right
52:51
yeah well III think James’s is ordained
52:54
master oh yeah okay
52:58
I think he got ordained out of the back
53:00
of Rolling Stone magazine or some but
53:03
the rapper Jack Church of go ahead
53:08
pastafarians yeah pastor Farion yeah but
53:11
but anyway uh the Church of Gesu the
53:14
Cthulhu get through it yeah so anyway uh
53:19
there’s another couple they got married
53:21
and that was their actual wedding and
53:24
shannond one of our friends she
53:27
officiated that at cuz she’s she’s an
53:29
actual ordained minister also I think a
53:32
little bit more than like out of the
53:33
back of a Rolling Stone magazine or
53:35
right off of some seedy corner of the
53:37
internet so anyway but yes so the
53:41
weddings now let’s see what who else we
53:42
have there for for speakers at this time
53:45
excuse me
53:53
I’m having coughing fits I’ve been sick
53:55
for like three months
53:57
Oh No so anyway on Friday we got Paul
54:04
Rosenberg yeah I’m not sure who that is
54:06
if it’s if it’s a crypto hippie Paul
54:09
Rosenberg I could be super excited about
54:12
that I heard I’ve heard a couple of
54:14
interviews with him Ben stone had
54:16
interviewed him on the bank waker
54:19
podcast so i’m hoping it’s the same guy
54:20
cool and then let’s see saturday Larry
54:25
Ludlow CJ Stephen wave how to travel
54:29
safe how to travel freely I don’t I
54:33
don’t know too much about that let’s see
54:37
Shane Ratliff from the vaanu podcast and
54:41
we’ll be under attack
54:43
Bret Lynott will be doing a presentation
54:46
I’m gonna I’m gonna absolutely destroy
54:49
this name Olay Petta Hoey
54:52
he is our Norwegian game developer who
54:56
lives in Indonesia so if somebody lives
54:59
like eight hours away they say that’s
55:01
too far to go Oh a comes in from from
55:04
Indonesia this idiot yeah this will be a
55:07
search time so when you say that you
55:10
can’t drive five hours to get there I’m
55:12
not sympathetic oh I couldn’t possibly
55:14
get there I’m in Chicago well you’re not
55:17
Indonesia is pretty much exactly halfway
55:19
around the world now pretty much yeah
55:22
yeah and then John John Phibes will be
55:25
there and he’s doing something with Olay
55:27
but John vibes he’s a writer for the
55:30
free thought project let’s see what else
55:34
we got Nick Hazleton my young apprentice
55:39
so Nick Nick
55:41
Hazleton I’ve known him on Facebook
55:44
since he’s like 14 or something like
55:45
that and his big thing is he dropped out
55:49
of school to make something of himself
55:51
and his dad was like the superintendent
55:54
or the the Dean of the charter school
55:57
that he was in right so it so I that
56:02
that’s got a that’s gonna be a little
56:04
bit awkward but yeah
56:05
he just he just didn’t feel like he was
56:07
getting anything out of school and he
56:08
wanted to he wanted to raise yaks and so
56:11
he dropped out he wanted dropping out of
56:13
school eventually and he’s got a yak
56:16
farm and he’s doing a thing out there
56:18
and and he’s happy with what he’s doing
56:21
he’s enjoying himself
56:22
hey ya k– farm yeah I’m familiar with a
56:27
yak what precisely is it the Yak fur or
56:31
yak meat what all of it all of it Oh in
56:35
the thing the thing is the the yak meat
56:37
is not regulated because it’s uh it’s
56:39
like a specialty meat or something like
56:41
that okay it’s not real a like kaolin
56:44
otters up but yeah the fur is valuable
56:46
the meat is valuable you probably even
56:49
get off yeah yeah yeah yeah he does a
56:53
yak milk too so I don’t know if he can
56:55
sell that but anyway so I he doesn’t
56:59
have a monocle he doesn’t have a top hat
57:01
and a monocle yet so yeah he’s not
57:03
having that kind of success but he’s
57:05
happy he’s having happiness success hey
57:07
listen if you can if you can etch out a
57:10
living doing what you love especially if
57:13
it involves yaks or not pakka’s or
57:16
something like that I’d say all you know
57:18
more power to you I remember we were
57:20
driving somewhere and we stopped at a
57:23
like a stop to get food or whatever in
57:26
like Pennsylvania and this guy pulled up
57:28
with a trailer full of alpacas and they
57:33
were all just chilling out in the
57:34
trailer and he had it was a guy he’d
57:37
quit his job he’d worked some kind of
57:40
9:00 to 5:00 and he quit it and started
57:42
farming alpacas and he was making I mean
57:45
he had a new truck I mean he made enough
57:46
money get a new truck but he was more
57:48
importantly he was super I was like
57:50
because I was just so curious I was like
57:52
so are you like you’re enjoy like is
57:55
this fun he’s like I’m having the most
57:57
fun I’ve ever had in my whole life he’s
57:58
like it’s like having twenty pets that I
58:00
make money off of okay because I I have
58:03
pets and don’t make any money off of
58:04
them so I can absolutely i I think it’s
58:08
cool so if this guy’s doing good on yaks
58:09
and then that’s awesome good for him so
58:13
so ok so if people want to check out the
58:17
the if people want to register for the
58:19
Midwest peace
58:19
Liberty fest they go to MPL fest org and
58:22
correct like Papa Lima fest dot org dot
58:27
org and you guys you take Bitcoin right
58:30
or there was one year you took Bitcoin
58:33
they’ve taken Bitcoin every year I don’t
58:35
know that they’re taking it this year I
58:36
can’t see why they wouldn’t right very
58:40
cool so Lou thank you again for joining
58:43
us
58:44
my back is letting me know that it’s
58:46
it’s time to wrap things up before I let
58:50
you go um is there any other final
58:52
thoughts anything you want to say that
58:54
you can get a chance to say already
58:56
anything else that you want to promote
58:58
like your show or anything else
59:00
Lou sander the floor is yours alright so
59:03
if you want to hear my old stuff on
59:05
freedom fiends you can hear my evolution
59:07
from brand-new radio show host up to
59:10
when we finally ended it
59:14
freedom fiends calm my stuff like I said
59:17
I’m the absentee landlord of the Lou
59:19
Sanders Show at Lou Sanders show calm I
59:21
should have some new material coming out
59:23
real soon because I have some interviews
59:25
from the last fest and and some other
59:28
stuff that I want to start knocking out
59:29
a little bit quicker and I picked up
59:31
some little technological things so I
59:33
should be able to do this a little bit
59:35
quicker and start getting those out
59:37
there and there’s some really good stuff
59:38
in there I’ve got an interview with
59:40
Scott Horton to release I think the next
59:43
one is gonna be Ben stone from a couple
59:44
years ago and yeah oh the one with CJ
59:50
cuz we recorded one in the middle of the
59:51
night after a couple of beverages so
59:53
it’s gonna be called the drunken history
59:54
podcast I haven’t listened joy I haven’t
59:57
listened to yes I don’t know how good or
59:59
how bad it is it might be terrible or it
60:02
might be the best thing you’ve ever done
60:04
and it’s probably not one or the other
60:06
it’s probably not somewhere in between
60:07
probably like either horrible or amazing
60:10
so or maybe both yeah yeah maybe the
60:14
best or worst at the same time you might
60:16
laugh and cry at the same time so yeah
60:19
Lucy and her show calm MPL fest org and
60:23
we’ll have those in the show notes and
60:26
so again Lou thank you again next time I
60:30
have you on I will actually have your
60:32
right oh no see I I will next time I
60:39
will have actually done some stuff so
60:42
that it would be a little bit less rough
60:43
this one but again thank you for joining
60:45
me stick around we’re gonna talk during
60:47
the during the outro guys thank you
60:50
again oh and also I’m sorry for a parent
60:52
my squeaky chair I don’t know if anyone
60:54
else can hear that but it’s been
60:55
annoying me all day so she’s been a fun
60:57
show we’re gonna say that we don’t this
60:59
wasn’t a real 36th episode this is real
61:02
fast if you don’t fast you can’t
61:04
complain fair enough I don’t know what
61:07
that means but we’re gonna we’re gonna
61:09
go with that you can’t you can’t
61:10
complain about this so guys thank you
61:12
again for joining me
61:13
be sure to tune in tomorrow night for
61:15
the writer’s block where Matt Wright
61:19
will have my former arch enemy and now
61:22
good friend Shane Sweeney on to talk
61:24
presumably about how much he loves me
61:28
now and maybe some like libertarian
61:31
stuff as well Shane is with the South
61:33
Carolina Libertarian Party and is just
61:35
an awesome guy so be sure to check that
61:37
out the writer’s block we will not be
61:40
having an episode of mr. America the
61:43
beard truth this Friday
61:45
this will be an actual sabbatical on the
61:48
Sabbath no less and have a great weekend
61:50
we will I believe also not be having an
61:53
episode of mr. America the beard of
61:54
truth with Jason lion on Monday either I
61:56
think he will be back the following
61:58
Friday but then be sure that the next
62:01
day uh this coming Tuesday to tune in to
62:04
see me and Matt on the muddy waters of
62:06
freedom where we cheerfully parse
62:09
through the week’s news with our special
62:12
our special Flair that we add to it and
62:14
and then next Wednesday be sure to tune
62:18
in to my fellow Americans I don’t even
62:20
know who my guest is but I guarantee
62:23
it’ll be great so again thank you for
62:25
joining us and and god bless you