(((My Fellow Americans))) #35: Welcome Back, Cohen

(((My Fellow Americans)))


About This Episode


Can you believe it’s been over a month since Spike has done a show? Well frankly, that’s irrelevant.

Spike doesn’t know how long his back will hold up, so he’s going to just take your thoughts and questions and tell you if you’re right or wrong. Also, MAGIC MUSHROOMS!

Intro & Outro Music: JoDavi


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[Music]
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and now beautiful you’re watching my
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fellow Americans with your host spike
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Cohen yes welcome to the show
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yes thank you thank you yes thank you so
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much thank you
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keep clapping like us you can stop now
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thank you for joining welcome to my
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fellow Americans I am literally spike
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Cohen it has been six weeks five weeks
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six weeks it has been over a month since
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I’ve done this show it’s been a just
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tragedy of errors or comedy of errors a
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tragedy it’s been a comic tragedy why I
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haven’t been in front of you so first
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thing so if if you remember the last
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time that your beloved host me spike
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Cohen was on actually let’s let’s start
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with something I’m so rusty
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I am so rusty this is a muddied waters
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know that this show is going to be the
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absolute best show that I have ever done
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and so I don’t want it would be a shame
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if the people you care about most missed
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out on what you’re on what you’re
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experiencing right now so be sure to
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share it if you are listening to this
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and almost every Show episode of my
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fellow Americans beloved NACA the intro
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and outro music as always is from the
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it’s amazing you’ll be so happy that you
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did that thank you again to mr. Joe Davi
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shoutout to Tamara on Turks his mom and
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him as always so as I alluded to before
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forgetting that I had stuff I had to do
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before the show started we’re at the
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start of the show you might be wondering
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spike where have you been where’s your
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show bin why have you only done shows
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with Matt on the couch and while that’s
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an amazing angle for you spike that kind
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of top-down look it makes you look
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youthful even more youthful than you
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normally look why were you doing it
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that’s a great question it’s amazing
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that all of you thought and said that at
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the same time with the same intonation
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that I did um so I had my last episode
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with Joshua Jossie Joshua bitter Smith
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and James Michael Smith and I’m saying
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no Michael Smith and to do to promote
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their documentary that they’re working
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on living in Liberty and after that show
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I got up and said I’m gonna go cook food
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because I’m a human and eat and I went
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and bent down to get something and
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experienced the most excruciating pain
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I’ve ever had in my life in my back and
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wasn’t able to walk for the better part
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of two days or I was it was just hurt so
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much I couldn’t like put any pressure on
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my legs or my back and so the last month
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and a half has been a story of me
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working to be able to walk again which I
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can now thankfully but the hardest thing
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still is sitting upright like this you’d
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think that that wouldn’t be as our
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it’s walking but it’s actually harder
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and so we’re gonna do this as long as I
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can I did it for about an hour and a
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half yesterday and was feeling it so
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we’re gonna do it as long as we can
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today that’s why I don’t have a guest I
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don’t have someone on here you know
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sharing their time with us only to then
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you know have to cancel the show halfway
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through because of my back so it’s just
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gonna be me here doing my thing and I’m
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gonna start with oh I didn’t share this
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I am rusty so guys when I say I’m rusty
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I am rusty
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I haven’t even shared this on my own
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Facebook this is how rusty I am this is
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what happens when you don’t do something
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for you don’t do something for or let’s
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see four six six weeks okay um so yeah
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so it’s gonna be you and me today so
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feel free to comment with any questions
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or thoughts you have first of all first
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of all something that we were addressing
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yesterday and we promised we would
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update you here at muddied waters media
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the very second we knew it was looking
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like bad so we talked yesterday Matt and
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I on the muddy waters of freedom we
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talked about the fact that the city of
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Denver was having a referendum on
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whether or not to decriminalize
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psilocybe in mushrooms otherwise known
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as psychedelic mushrooms or magic
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mushrooms or mushrooms that make you
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throw up and then trip really hard and
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love it which I did it was looking last
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night like we were gonna have to share
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some bad news that it came really close
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but you know is they voted against it I
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think when I looked I don’t have to the
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morn 2:00 in the morning or midnight or
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whatever I look last night it was 48 to
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52 52 against I keep wanting to say
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legalize decriminalizing it so it will
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still be illegal
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they just won’t geo you for it
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and there’s actually there a lot of
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people that believe that
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decriminalization is better than
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legalization because
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legalization comes with regulation and
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taxation and a bunch of other things
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that actually make it worse
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whereas decriminalization just says yeah
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you’re not supposed to do it but we’re
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not gonna do anything about it that we
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might take it from you if we find it but
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that’s like the worst thing and we’re
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not gonna tax it we’re not gonna
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regulate it you just if you do it just
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basically don’t get caught but we’re not
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gonna give you jail time or anything
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like that which is a lot of people would
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say that that that’s even better it
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passed it passed narrowly but it passed
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it’s going to be interesting to see how
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this plays out it’s also going to be
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interesting to see how that how this
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plays out on the federal level so weed
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has been one thing because the reality
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is the vast majority of people are okay
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with even recreational weed being legal
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at this point so even though it is
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illegal on the federal level there’s
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just not a lot of energy in Congress or
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in the White House to enforce it or at
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least to enforce it in places where
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they’ve legalized it even though it’s
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still technically federally illegal and
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so places like Oregon and Vermont
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Massachusetts in California as well as
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other states that have or in Colorado
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and other states that have states and
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cities that have either decriminalized
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it or allowed it for medical use or or
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made it completely legal even for
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recreational use or you know you know
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regulated or whatever they’ve done even
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though it’s technically completely
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illegal for any use even medical at the
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federal level the feds have been for the
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most part kind of back and off and
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letting the states do it well now we’re
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doing psychedelics so we’re gonna see
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how that goes now this was a good
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psychedelic to pick as far as I know no
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one has ever died for magic mushrooms
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they may have but I’m not aware of it it
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is one of the more mild psychedelics it
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has been there are studies showing that
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it could be helpful in dealing with
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depression and for inpatients people
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with depression and other emotional
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issues that were resistant to weren’t
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able to treat it using traditional or
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legal psychotropic meds so there’s a
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similar to marijuana there’s sort of
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this you know medical slab
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it’s not that harmful and people enjoy
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it type of argument but this is not we
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this is a that we’re now talking
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psychedelics so now questions of like
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okay well you can’t take psychedelics
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and drive or can you and how will that
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be tested so it’s gonna be fun to see
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how that plays out but there are a lot
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of worrying trends um in the political
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world most of the trends are towards
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people wanting government to make other
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people do something whether it’s make
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them pay me more or make them you know
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you know put taxes on products that are
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from other countries because I want to
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have to pay more for stuff because
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somehow that’s gonna help American
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workers or you know stop those people
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from crossing the border into the
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country if you know if they don’t you
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know fill out all the paperwork or you
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know don’t let people assume my gender
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or misgender me or you know if I want a
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if I want a you know a wedding cake and
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if I want a gay wedding cake from a
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Christian Baker they should have to make
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it for me even if they’re against it or
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Facebook needs to be made to allow me to
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be on their platform or you know all
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these different opinions are all they
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all boil down to someone is doing
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something with their property and I
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don’t like it and I want the government
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to stop them from doing it or force them
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to do it a different way what we’re
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seeing with drugs is kind of different
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where it’s people saying I don’t really
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think government should tell people what
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they can do with their bodies so that’s
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it you know I’m an anarchist I’m an
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radical libertarian and so there’s
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obviously not a lot in the political
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world for me to be happy about other
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than to watch smug people get upset
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that’s really what uh what makes me
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happy and smug and one thing that isn’t
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troubling is is seeing how people are
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kind of relaxing their attitudes about
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even if you’re against drugs even though
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you know I’ve been sober for thirteen
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years I’m not gonna do drugs I think for
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the most part getting intoxicated it’s
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usually not a good idea just in general
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but it’s none of my business what you do
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and it’s good to see that
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it seems to be people are getting more
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and more along that way of thinking so
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wanted to update you on that magic
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mushrooms now decriminalize or will be
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decriminalized in Denver I don’t know
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when it’s when it’s as of but that’s
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what we’re being told so I’m gonna go
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through the comments
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Jacob LaBelle pie is quantifiably better
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than cake pie is like a liquid cake I
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mean you know I mean let’s talk about
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cake for a second cake is an amazing
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thing like it’s it’s it’s bread that’s
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sweet and and has you know often other
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things in it pie takes it to a
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completely different level so I tend to
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agree with you because I can think of a
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lot of pies that I like better than
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cakes but I can’t think of a cake that I
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like better than a pie my new best
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friend Shane Sweeney says and I’m
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literally Saint Shane Sweeney which is
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which is true we Shane Sweeney and I had
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some Street beef for a fortnight and
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we’ve quashed it um we’re gonna keep it
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real now
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no more East Coast West Coast okay it
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actually is cuz I’m on the east coast of
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South Carolina and he is he’s on the
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west side but we’ve quashed that we
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killed it we’re gonna increase the peace
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in these streets
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Adam Montgomery says in the topic is so
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welcome to my show um where usually I
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have a guest and the topic is usually
13:20
what that guest is doing and then we
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talk about current events and their
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thoughts on things and usually either a
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libertarian guest or a I guess
13:29
right-of-center guest or I guess small
13:31
government guests every once in a while
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we get a progressive on here but usually
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not but we don’t have a guest so the
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topic today is me trifle is better than
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both then both pie and kay I don’t even
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know what trifle is I don’t like
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trifling like you’ve been trifling lies
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you’ve been reported that’s probably I
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think I’m seeing a beef in my comments
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yeah
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yeah you guys can pretty tough yeah you
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guys are gonna you guys are gonna work
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that out between the two of you Sarah
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Branyan says you just got me in trouble
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I said here we go listen to the Jew and
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my husband Faust that’s what the damn
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thing I click I mean you’re Jewish like
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we get to do that right like we get to
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do the the Jewish tropes we’re Jewish
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that’s like black people with their word
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you know like they can say it we can’t
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we can’t say it we’re not black but they
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can say it they can and then they can
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also say like you know who really
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shouldn’t be saying this but then like
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if someone if I said yeah you’re right
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you know that’s probably not something
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you should say it’ll be like hey back
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off colonizer right so that’s like it’s
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not just their word to say it’s their
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word to say that they shouldn’t say so I
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think we should there’s nothing wrong
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with you saying listen to the Jew more
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arguing between Jacob and Fotini well
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you have Collins I’m sure this wouldn’t
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be used with malice you know what gosh
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dang it
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let’s do that cuz that won’t be it there
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is no way that I will regret doing this
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one on to let me go do at home I mean
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let me check something yeah there we go
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so if you want to call I think this will
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work call eight one three six four four
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two seven two two and B why you know I
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don’t know I
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this could go many ways but we’ll see I
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have nothing else to do I am oh and I’m
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not in the right hangout Stephen take
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the call if it comes in now I am I think
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this will work if someone wants to call
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you were free to call otherwise I’m
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going to just keep talking which is your
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fault just seeing a commercial for
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students stool softeners that’s nice
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mushrooms are even safer than weed the
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federal government should force people
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to take shrooms there are worse things
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that the federal government could force
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us to do Sarah says I didn’t get an
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answer to this yesterday but essentially
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if they take Trump off the ballot in
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California can’t they just write them in
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we had DC mayor win as a write-in it was
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a big deal
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you can’t just write the person and you
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also have to check next to their name um
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I don’t know how that would work
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I don’t know oh that was quick so we’re
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getting a call call the realtor next
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room there are worse things that the
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federal government of course will do I’m
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hearing myself
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hi I’m spike I can hear myself talking
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through your recording through your
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watching it do I do you mind meeting
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that for a second you got a call yeah
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hey who’s this it’s Jason Willis Jason
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Willis hi this is getting even better
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cuz now I hear myself welcoming you to
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the show tonight can I get you to move
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that I can I can try okay I’m I’m in
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North Dakota so you know things don’t
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work so ladies and gentlemen this is my
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favorite Canadian I think he’s Canadian
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well no oh god I haven’t my lady and my
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wife is Canadian my second favorite
17:54
Canadian the the illustrious Jason
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Willis Jason welcome to the show well
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thank you for having me sir Jason Willis
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by the way if you are ever in North
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Dakota and want a delicious chokecherry
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meal um Jason Willis is who you would go
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to for that I am sitting here and
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enjoying my Minnesota Twins because I am
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actually from Minnesota not Canada but
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we are currently defeating the Canadian
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baseball team which is the Toronto Blue
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Jays so so your kids like that you
18:28
kind of completely not because not at
18:29
all millions no lose you’re the one who
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married the Canadian not me oh yeah but
18:34
we also don’t really watch baseball so
18:36
oh you’re a common kirby puckett
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I remember kirby puckett that was a big
18:42
guy and that’s really all I remember
18:46
about the twins if you don’t watch
18:48
baseball you’re basically a communist
18:50
I’ve been accused of worse what’s what
18:53
so what’s going on what do you what do
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you think about this room thing other
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than you think they’ve got my Jesus all
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the ticket in my heart of hearts I am a
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very much like you where I think people
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should be able to do whatever they want
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to themselves without harming others
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right I do see the the downside of this
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on a larger scale societal level because
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I have had the opportunity to go through
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Denver the last couple years and there
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is a significant homeless problem there
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and I think this will contribute to that
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and I think the the drug legalization
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has contributed to their ongoing and
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growing homeless problem there I don’t
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recommend or advocate the fact that
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government should be involved to fix it
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I think it can fix itself right but but
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but that’s not to be said that that that
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actions don’t have consequences
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okay I mean you know so I am a believer
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that you know individual responsibility
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and individual freedom go hand in hand
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you can’t have one without the other
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yeah so that being said I I do see this
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being a kind of a pathway for some of
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these places to have more and more
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problems inside of their
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inside of their their communities that
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function kind of underneath the radar
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they’re homeless populations and things
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like that right what I what I find
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interesting is that while these things
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get past at the state level and they’re
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heralded as you know progressive
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movements forward for legalization in
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either Washington or or Colorado right
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and the the only way they get moved
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forward and this is literally the only
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way and it’s so shocking and surprising
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to me but the only way they actually
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ever do get moved forward and it was a
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great distinction that you made at the
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beginning of your show
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between decriminalization and
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legalization but the only way they do
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get move forward is through legalization
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because the government wants their piece
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right the only way that’s going to
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happen is if they can tax it and
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regulate it right and everybody seems to
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be so happy with that because they get
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what they want
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they want to be able to do their drugs
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and everything right and they want to be
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able to do the thing without going to
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jail or risk going to jail right exactly
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and and they don’t see the downside or
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the negative side of the taxation and
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the legal and regulation of it
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absolutely and and what what ends up
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happening and it’s being borne out in
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both Seattle and Denver two of the most
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high populous areas of homelessness is
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both places have determined that they
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will not only decriminalize but legalize
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and tax these different shops and things
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that that can sell weed and pot and I’m
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assuming right that now shrooms is
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probably not too far behind that um but
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why isn’t the money then going forward
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to pay for the things that it’s helping
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to create the money is not being put
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towards the homeless problems the
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homeless problems continue to grow even
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after the legalization has happened
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right all right
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yeah exactly it’s being thrown into
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these boondoggles and all these special
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pet projects that everybody wants to
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fund but people are flocking to these
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places in droves and they’re living on
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the streets and there have addiction
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problems and they have these problems
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and it’s
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I’m legalized and everybody’s making
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money off of it both the private side
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and the public side but the but the
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continuing problem the societal problem
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is not being addressed and it’s it’s
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it’s very like kind of ironic and funny
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to me that everybody sees these things
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as victories from the uber left to the
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uber right as like Oh while these beasts
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what there’s freedom happening there but
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in actuality all it is is more
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government it’s just disguised a little
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bit better right right so you’re almost
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entirely agree with everything you just
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said I’d like to kind of break down the
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different parts of it so if we and then
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this is a common theme with the show if
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we look at government as what it
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essentially acts as which is an
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organized crime unit that has given
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itself legal authorization to do what it
23:48
does it kind of makes what they do more
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clear and this is a perfect example of
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that so if we look at how they’ve
23:53
handled gambling there used to be a
23:55
thing called the numbers I think that
23:57
probably still exists but it was a lot
23:58
bigger in them in the past where
24:00
basically was a lottery that was run by
24:02
you know local people I would yeah and
24:04
so they were out of time it was it was
24:07
the mob doing it and originally it was
24:09
probably just normal people doing it but
24:11
the mob was like they muscled in and
24:13
said this is our thing now well then the
24:15
big mob came in and said no the numbers
24:18
is immoral and it’s a terrible thing and
24:20
gambling is bad and the Bible says not
24:22
to do it and and they used those as
24:23
pretext to to stop the mob from doing
24:27
the numbers and then what did they do
24:28
they immediately turned around and said
24:30
well what we really need is the lottery
24:32
and they call it the education lottery
24:35
or the infrastructure lottery or
24:36
whatever they can call it to try to make
24:38
it sound like it’s something other than
24:39
the numbers and of course the difference
24:41
between the lottery is that the states
24:44
have and the numbers is that the odds
24:45
are way more geared towards people not
24:48
making any money it is really a tax on
24:50
poor people who don’t have good
24:51
financial planning and I say that as
24:53
someone who occasionally will buy a
24:54
ticket or two when the the jackpot is
24:58
some ridiculous you know billion dollar
25:00
figure or whatever multi-million dollar
25:02
figure but for the most part people are
25:04
going to put thousands of dollars a year
25:05
in and get nothing from it and you know
25:08
every once in a while they’ll get back
25:09
20 bucks or 50 bucks and I’ll get that
25:11
serotonin rush but in the reality
25:12
they’re losing money if they just took
25:14
him that taking that money and put it in
25:15
a simple savings account
25:16
not to mention an actual investment
25:19
account they do way better but it’s you
25:21
know now the government controls that so
25:23
here’s another example of that drugs are
25:24
bad drugs are bad drugs are bad you know
25:26
I was a dare kid I had the Dare shirt
25:29
you know Nancy Reagan justjust say no
25:31
just say no and now that they’ve
25:33
successfully kind of or I shouldn’t say
25:37
successfully they’ve they’ve created
25:39
this this idea that you know buying
25:42
drugs is bad now they step in and go
25:44
well you know if we taxed it then
25:48
imagine all the great things we could do
25:50
and and and they sort of turn it around
25:52
so now so it’s really they just like you
25:54
said they want their cut um so
25:56
decriminalization ‘he’s first step next
25:57
step is is full legalization which has
26:00
some positives but like I said it’s
26:02
mostly we would argue mostly negatives
26:05
the other side of that that you were
26:07
talking about was the the homeless thing
26:08
that and and just the negative
26:11
consequences in general and it’s because
26:13
in a free in a truly free society if we
26:18
said you can do whatever you want with
26:21
your body put whatever you want in it do
26:24
whatever you want with it
26:25
it’s your body just don’t hurt anyone
26:26
else but you can do whatever you want we
26:28
lived in a truly free society the flip
26:30
side of that and you that’s what you
26:31
were talking about and you are also
26:33
responsible for the consequences of that
26:35
because you and everyone else is free to
26:37
do what they want with their bodies that
26:39
means no one else can be forced to pay
26:41
for your bad choices so if you and this
26:45
could be anything this could be if you
26:46
eat too much or you don’t work out
26:48
enough for you you know you have bad
26:50
life choices whether it’s drugs alcohol
26:52
whatever whatever even just bad my
26:54
finances what you exactly find it if
26:56
you’re just bad money if you put all
26:58
your money in the lottery whatever it is
27:00
if the only one is gonna be a bunch of
27:03
money into student loans and young make
27:06
oh yeah yeah right now using figures on
27:13
it basket weaving yeah yeah exactly it
27:16
they’ve they’ve they’ve tried to take
27:19
and I’ve this is just my personal take
27:22
on the whole thing yeah
27:23
collectivism is is the evil that tries
27:29
to remove individuality and they tried
27:32
to remove individual responsibility
27:35
along with it so what they try to do is
27:38
kind of create this pseudo safety net
27:42
that says you don’t need to be
27:43
responsible for anything that you do
27:45
well figure well Oh we’ll figure out a
27:49
way to take care of you well we’re also
27:52
gonna be able to limit everything you do
27:54
well and we’re not gonna force you to be
27:57
responsible for what you do we’re gonna
27:58
force you to be responsible for what
28:00
everybody does and everyone else is
28:02
getting forced to which of course begs
28:04
the question well then why should I be
28:05
responsible because if I’m not if I am
28:08
responsible I have to pay for
28:09
irresponsible people and if I’m
28:11
irresponsible then responsible people
28:13
have to pay for me so that’s a very
28:15
perverse incentive if if a disincentive
28:18
to people to actually make good life
28:21
choices
28:22
well it’s it’s the paradox that that
28:25
will always kill collectivism it cannot
28:29
it inherently cannot survive because it
28:32
goes against human nature yep that’s
28:36
what this shows about my friend so hey
28:39
before I let you go cuz I just want to
28:40
make sure I’m not missing anyone else
28:42
there any other final thoughts you want
28:43
to give us gifts don’t leave
28:45
decriminalize legalize our tax
28:48
chokecherries in any fashion and we’ll
28:50
be fine
28:51
keep chokecherries illegal 2019 all
28:56
right okay thanks a lot
28:58
and I’m gonna watch the rest of the show
29:00
thing yeah god save our queen god bless
29:01
Canada thank you yeah yeah whatever
29:04
cool so we learned two good things one
29:07
is that the calling system works and two
29:09
is that Jason is a great calling yes
29:13
thank you again Jason let’s see what we
29:15
have on the calls here and Jason is
29:17
absolutely where I mean this all breaks
29:18
down too and you can expand extrapolate
29:20
this to other stuff too whether it’s
29:23
immigration or prostitution or any of
29:28
these and I’m not equating immigration
29:30
to prostitution but I’m just saying when
29:31
you have the government say yeah you can
29:33
do whatever you want
29:34
but they’re also saying we will force
29:36
people
29:37
to pay for your choices good or bad you
29:40
are that’s not because people go well if
29:43
you let people you know what the
29:44
libertarians want is for everyone to be
29:46
on welfare because they made bad choices
29:48
but that’s not looking at the reality
29:50
that it’s being created by the
29:53
government the government is creating
29:55
this reality that would not otherwise
29:57
exist through collectivism like Jason
29:59
said by saying hey look do whatever you
30:02
want and if it screws up if it’s in it
30:05
because it’s probably in advisable to do
30:06
magic mushrooms every single day you
30:09
know or at least you know large doses of
30:11
magic mushrooms every single day and
30:12
smokin weed all day and and you know you
30:15
know seeing hookers all day and and you
30:18
know whatever like you know doing all
30:20
this stuff and I haven’t a job and you
30:21
know having a big student loan and all
30:22
these other things things get rough
30:26
don’t worry about it we’ll have someone
30:28
else pay for you all of your life
30:29
choices well why the hell other than
30:33
just a good personal ethic would people
30:37
not do those things and even if the
30:40
majority of people which this is
30:41
charitable but even if the vast majority
30:44
of people just have a personal ethic
30:45
that’s like well I’m just gonna do the
30:47
right thing regardless which is provably
30:50
false but let’s say it is you don’t need
30:52
much more than a small to moderate
30:54
minority of people and I’m when I say
30:57
minority I mean I don’t mean minorities
30:58
I mean numerical minority of people you
31:01
don’t need more than ten fifteen twenty
31:03
percent of people would be like I’m
31:05
gonna do whatever I want I’m gonna do
31:07
this I’m gonna do that I’m gonna do this
31:08
I’m gonna do that and it and it crushes
31:10
it crushes it puts a crushing burden on
31:12
everyone else which is why and
31:14
government uses this to get people to
31:17
say no make that illegal put people in
31:19
jail for doing it because I don’t want
31:20
to pay for their choices they’re not
31:22
saying necessarily I think you shouldn’t
31:24
be allowed to do this they’re saying
31:26
when you do this if it fails I don’t
31:30
want to be forced to be responsible for
31:32
you and I think if government were
31:34
honest they’d be able to have a better
31:37
discovery or a better society wherein
31:40
people could you know you’re responsible
31:43
for your choices and that even includes
31:46
immigration you come here things don’t
31:48
work out okay well then go back home
31:51
or you can stay here and try to make it
31:52
work but no one’s gonna be forced to
31:55
make you comfortable while you’re here
31:58
so anyway let’s go through these
31:59
comments Oh Sarah asked about Trump on
32:03
the ballot I have no idea how that works
32:05
so Sarah was talking about there was a
32:09
we talked yesterday on the muddy waters
32:12
of freedom about California the
32:14
legislature I don’t know if the governor
32:16
signed it but they’ve they’ve passed a
32:18
law which they passed before but it’s
32:20
never been signed that says that in
32:23
order to be on the presidential ballot
32:25
in California you have to have released
32:27
your last five years of tax returns and
32:30
which is obviously pushed at its it’s
32:33
targeted to trump who won’t release his
32:35
tax returns or at least his most recent
32:38
ones and it wouldn’t matter if we cut if
32:43
the electoral college system remained
32:45
for Republicans because Republicans
32:47
don’t win California where it becomes an
32:49
issue is with this national popular vote
32:51
if you now have a situation where in it
32:54
now matters who won the popular vote as
32:57
opposed to the Electoral College
32:59
California I would imagine Republicans
33:03
get the Republican presidential
33:04
candidate gets if not it’s definitely
33:08
one of the top vote getting states for
33:10
them even though they lose it just
33:11
because of how big it is how big the
33:14
population is so I would bet that they’d
33:16
probably get more votes in California
33:18
than in Texas just because California’s
33:20
population is so much bigger so that
33:21
would be a huge loss for Republicans or
33:24
for any anyone who didn’t release their
33:26
tax returns in terms of winning the
33:28
national the national vote and I think
33:30
New York and some other states have
33:31
signed on to so if that if that ever
33:32
became a thing where you had to release
33:34
your tax returns then now it’s you know
33:38
now goodly you’re not gonna win
33:39
basically um the but can they call write
33:43
them in probably yeah but obviously it’s
33:46
gonna be harder to get someone to write
33:47
in a name than to just check a name but
33:50
I think for the presidential level you
33:52
probably get away with a write-in
33:53
campaign but I don’t know they may not
33:54
allow right I really I don’t know how
33:56
that works so I apologize um shapes
34:01
Shane Sweeney says West Side till I move
34:03
at some point that’s me with these
34:05
man I’m I’m here til I’m not here Jason
34:10
Willis ed truffle get it right Oh
34:12
truffles truffle like the mushroom is
34:16
better than pie or you’re talking about
34:19
chocolate chocolate I like pie I’m not a
34:21
big like super sweet person Jacob says
34:25
no DAC is basically Canada I you know I
34:31
don’t know what to tell you
34:34
Jacob’s in Minnesota which is also
34:35
basically Canada Matt says Torii Hunter
34:41
good point
34:44
Shane Sweeney says I would say property
34:46
taxes and government intervention in
34:48
private life contribute more to
34:49
homelessness than drugs themselves drugs
34:51
are a symptom not a cause in my opinion
34:53
you know I I don’t I I I think that
34:58
there are definitely people but then you
35:01
could argue that somebody was gonna say
35:03
there are people that get like a pain
35:04
issue and they get put on opioids which
35:09
are cheap and then at some point their
35:11
doctor is told by the government stop
35:13
giving this person opioids and I gotta
35:17
get it illegally whether it’s the same
35:19
opioids or going straight to heroin or
35:21
or whatever but that is kind of an
35:23
intervention in government’s not really
35:25
their business if a person is is taking
35:27
those drugs and it kind of pushes them
35:29
into street drugs um you know I was an
35:32
addict for many years and many well many
35:35
of my years I’m not that old but I I saw
35:40
the other side of that where people who
35:41
otherwise were I think okay really hit
35:45
it hard and and got into harder stuff
35:48
which thankfully I I dabbled in harder
35:51
stuff and I never really got heavy and
35:52
the harder stuff like all the time I can
35:56
see where people were drugs themselves
35:58
but it takes all kinds and and the
36:00
bottom line is that if you didn’t have
36:02
this artificial safety net not from a
36:04
charity that’s willing to help you but
36:06
you got to do better but just yeah you
36:09
exist and you have a social security
36:11
number so here’s your free stuff and
36:14
we’re gonna rob you and everyone else to
36:16
pay for it because that’s what welfare
36:18
is
36:18
they robbed everyone and especially
36:21
disproportionately robbed the the poor
36:25
and and and and middle-income people and
36:27
then give some of the pack to them if
36:29
they decide they really deserve it and
36:30
then the rest goes towards you know war
36:34
the war on drugs
36:36
endless entitlements interest on the on
36:40
the the growing debt you know all sorts
36:44
of earmark boondoggle crap so I mean
36:47
it’s it’s not a good system Chris
36:50
Reynolds attorney at law Chris Reynolds
36:51
attorney in law ladies and gentlemen if
36:53
you live in Florida and you need to go
36:55
to attorney Chris Reynolds attorney law
36:58
Chris Reynolds says this is why kratom
37:01
is such a problem for government tough
37:02
to tax so we get a bunch of attempts to
37:04
ban it it also hurts the opiate pharma
37:07
business drugs in it so non opiates in
37:14
general hurt the opiate pharmacy
37:18
business so weed CBD oil I don’t know as
37:25
much about kratom but you know the
37:27
kratom kava any of these things that are
37:30
not addicting or not as addicting and
37:33
that can alleviate pain and other things
37:36
that drive people the drug cuz I mean a
37:37
lot of it’s emotional stuff a lot of
37:39
addicts they’re just self medicating
37:41
they don’t like how ii tropics make them
37:44
feel or they’re just scared to try them
37:45
but drugs they’ll do because drugs make
37:47
them feel good like now psychotropics
37:49
are more like you take them over the
37:50
course of weeks in it
37:52
slowly moderate your whatever whereas
37:54
drugs it’s like I feel good I took this
37:56
drug and five minutes later ten seconds
37:59
later you know an hour later depending
38:01
on the course of delivery and the type
38:03
of drug I feel great now of course the
38:06
problem is then you don’t feel great
38:07
when it’s not in your system you feel
38:08
even worse and that’s when you end up
38:10
and then chasing the dragon scenario but
38:12
that’s a lot of times it’s an emotional
38:14
issue too but again if personal
38:17
responsibility is in place people and
38:20
their families are less likely to just
38:22
throw their hands up and go well I’ll
38:23
just do whatever I want because you are
38:25
ultimately responsible for your choices
38:30
Timothy et Yasu says social security
38:34
prime example it’s a prime example if
38:38
you’re saying of government getting
38:39
involved in stuff yeah because that’s
38:40
that is a Ponzi scheme
38:42
so Ponzi schemes are illegal if you try
38:44
so this is an interesting thing if you
38:46
tomorrow or today said I’ve created a
38:49
great new retirement plan for every
38:51
American in this country and you
38:52
structured it exactly like Social
38:55
Security but not even making them give
38:57
you money it’s voluntary whether they
38:59
give you the money or not so it’s not
39:00
even mandatory like Social Security is
39:02
but they give you your money and you
39:03
structure the entire system the exact
39:08
way word for word that Social Security
39:10
is set up you give us money you give us
39:12
money you give us money it goes into a
39:14
general fund and we pay it out to people
39:16
once they reach a certain age if you set
39:20
that up you would pretty much
39:24
immediately get in trouble for antitrust
39:28
Ponzi scheme of that stuff because it’s
39:31
a Ponzi scheme
39:31
it is a pyramid scheme it is a scheme
39:34
that only works if the number of people
39:36
giving in is better than the people
39:38
giving that are taking out and because
39:41
as the population ages as the life
39:43
expectancy goes up and as people still
39:46
retire at roughly the same age that they
39:49
used to so people used to retire at
39:52
death people used to work until they
39:56
died and so Social Security was a safety
39:57
net it was marketed as a safety net for
40:00
those people who retired and hadn’t died
40:03
yet so 65 was the the cutoff age and I
40:09
think 66 or 67 was the average life
40:13
expectancy at the time for women and it
40:15
was like 65 for men and and at the time
40:17
the majority of vast majority workers
40:19
were men so this was hey guys when you
40:21
die your wife will be good for those two
40:24
years before she dies that’s pretty much
40:26
what it was and this was coming out of
40:29
the depression which was created by the
40:30
Federal Reserve where people were scared
40:32
to death of not having anything sounded
40:34
good well now people retire in their
40:38
late 60s they’re the retirement age has
40:39
gone up a little the average life
40:42
expectancy right now is somewhere around
40:44
80 and the average baby boomer is
40:47
expected to live to be around 90 that’s
40:49
the average that means it will not be
40:52
uncommon for people to live to be a
40:53
hundred like it will be it will be just
40:58
as common for people to live to be a
41:00
hundred as it will be for them to die at
41:02
80 roughly which means that for a third
41:07
of their lives they will be getting paid
41:13
what is it fourteen hundred bucks a
41:15
month now and then going up with
41:17
cost-of-living adjustments and those
41:18
cost-of-living adjustments aren’t going
41:19
away because baby boomers are the
41:21
biggest voting block with a bullet and
41:24
you see who they vote for I mean it’s
41:27
gonna be between Biden who will
41:29
definitely give Cola increases each year
41:31
and Trump who will definitely give Cola
41:33
increases each year um so and then with
41:35
the with the declining birth rate and
41:40
with a version to you know massive
41:42
immigration which is needed to you know
41:44
fill the cop fill the you know the tax
41:46
it taxed workers something’s got to give
41:50
and that’s how pyramid schemes work
41:52
potato patato says Brian wolf or potato
41:56
potato yes I agree with you
42:02
Shane Sweeney is trying to start a fight
42:04
with Jason lion and I reject it and I
42:06
won’t even get involved in that
42:08
Jacob Jason I have mutual friends
42:10
apparently Jason’s a great guy he’s my
42:13
favorite he and Jacob were my two
42:15
favorite Canadian adjacent people
42:19
mr. merica bearded and truthful news
42:21
comrade yeah you and Shane you know I’ve
42:25
we don’t have beef with Shane anymore
42:27
well I don’t until the next contrived
42:30
fight that we have we need some work for
42:33
drugs set up by businesses listen if
42:36
that were legal if that were legal then
42:43
there would be no unemployment rate if
42:49
they said if Trump said you know get to
42:55
work on building the wall and I will
42:57
give you drugs
42:58
um record time with that thing get bill
43:02
I can’t testify to the quality of it but
43:06
it would get built a thing would be
43:09
erected near the border can’t tell you
43:12
how it would work pretty sure it
43:14
wouldn’t work well but it would happen
43:15
and that’s really what matters to people
43:17
I don’t think people care if the wall is
43:19
gonna work at this point it’s just like
43:21
he said he’d build a he needs to build
43:24
it I don’t think Sara says kratom is an
43:28
opioid is it really is it is it an opium
43:31
derivative I like I said I don’t know
43:32
much about kratom I know cava is I don’t
43:35
know much about cava
43:36
I know it’s money it apparently tastes
43:40
like mud and it makes you calm and my
43:44
neurologist did not recommend it um
43:46
because I have MS and did not recommend
43:49
um me taking a muscle relaxant my
43:52
muscles are already pretty relaxed up
43:55
getting another call that’s two calls
43:59
five seven one area code thank you for
44:02
joining me my fellow Americans who’s
44:04
this so this is your co-host Hey I feel
44:10
bad that I don’t know your number
44:16
I’m thanks to smart I used to be great
44:19
with numbers but thanks to smart phones
44:21
I don’t I don’t I like I know the last
44:24
four digits of my wife’s number and like
44:26
the last four digits of like two or
44:28
three of my closest family members
44:29
everything else I just look up name how
44:31
are you doing yeah that’s where I’m
44:33
doing well you know the family you
44:35
recommended I make is almost done oh wow
44:38
that’s really fun so we can watch you
44:42
eat it is it you had so guys just to
44:45
give you a little background story I eat
44:47
a lot of salmon and I reject any anti
44:50
somatic thoughts you’re having right now
44:53
but yeah matt accepts your anti-semitism
44:57
I reject it which and I’ve said this I
45:00
said this to the the Florida
45:02
libertarians against against Nazism or
45:06
whatever I said that my show our show
45:08
the muddy waters of freedom is
45:09
essentially me just trying to convince
45:11
you to
45:12
stop being a Nazi please and it just
45:15
hasn’t worked and and every week you
45:16
know you know not even a little
45:18
it’s like Jason Nazism is bad anyway so
45:22
you know and you’re like no it’s for kid
45:25
great Hitler real deal Nazism hasn’t
45:29
been tried what’s that who’s that
45:34
no then not to him worked so well in the
45:38
past it works great it hasn’t really
45:40
been tried that was late steed right
45:42
real Nazism yes real Nazism has new year
45:49
that’s it
45:49
that’s a hashtag that I won’t use ever
45:51
um so so anyways so Jason because he
45:55
knows I’m Jewish he asked me about
45:56
salmon which I thought was very brave of
45:58
him as a actual Nazi and um so I gave
46:02
him my recommendation he does not have
46:05
salt proving oh the white Gentile um
46:10
that you know he doesn’t have any any
46:12
apparently any salt but it turned out
46:14
well alright or you haven’t had it yet
46:16
I’m not oh yeah no it’s it’s it is in it
46:19
is in the oven it is almost done I’m
46:21
very excited about it because I get fine
46:23
cinnamon oh you did fine cinnamon that I
46:27
did I had that oh I’d say where I got it
46:31
did you have roof but I have shared
46:33
cinnamon yeah okay I can read
46:37
I’m not Shane Sweeney whoa
46:41
you know I’m you know I I’m increasing
46:44
the peace machine but that’s well um you
46:47
know like Renzo Martinez huh
46:49
um so so did you have rosemary no bail
46:55
oh well that’s you know it’s the that’s
46:58
the rosemary of leafy green herbs sure
47:02
sure so all right cool oh so the real
47:07
reason I was actually calling was
47:09
because of kratom oh good thank God yes
47:12
please tell us about crowd because I
47:14
don’t yeah yeah you’re like okay so no
47:18
it is not an opiate is not a derivative
47:20
of an opiate what kratom does is it
47:25
attached
47:25
itself to the opioid receptors in the
47:28
brain which will give some people a
47:34
sensation that is very similar to
47:37
opiates yeah okay um but it is not it
47:44
doesn’t bind in the same it doesn’t bind
47:46
in the same way so it doesn’t have the
47:48
same addictive principles that in opiate
47:53
does so it has some of the good effects
47:55
or some of the pleasant effects without
47:58
any without the bad addiction part right
48:02
and they say that they say who they say
48:07
that like something tell the salmon I
48:13
did not drop the film and I was getting
48:16
ready to pull the salmon out in
48:17
something else fell well they say that
48:21
less than 1% of people get opiate like
48:27
addicted
48:29
oh what’s that called what’s wrong
48:33
you would think I would know that having
48:37
experienced it yeah right having
48:39
experience having experience you know
48:40
that thing I got a few don’t say it that
48:43
thing that awful thing that horrible
48:45
thing that I name I forget right lesson
48:49
1 lesson 1 percent of all people who use
48:51
kratom will experience any sort of
48:53
severe withdrawal from it other people
48:56
will get and then the number slightly
48:59
higher of people who will experience
49:01
like a runny nose or restless leg
49:06
syndrome or something like that but it
49:08
is a much more manageable symptom that
49:11
you are now dealing with then heroin
49:14
symptoms yeah those are usually where a
49:16
little worse than restless legs um yeah
49:19
so well that’s yeah just just a smidge
49:22
and and I mean the thing is now correct
49:28
me if I’m wrong the is it narcan that
49:32
the one that the drugs met the methadone
49:35
those are all opiates right yeah they
49:38
are like
49:39
they they’re not as strong opiates so
49:42
like suboxone is a mixture of two things
49:45
one is a like a theta is a blocker in
49:47
order to stop the stop the receptors
49:53
from receiving things so that way you
49:54
don’t actually feel the withdrawal
49:57
symptoms the and then the other is like
49:59
a mild opiate and then methadone is I
50:03
believe that it’s just like if normal
50:07
people were to take methadone it would
50:09
probably feel like taking vicodin a
50:11
heroin addict taking it it feels like
50:14
survival right it gets it takes the edge
50:17
off so my point is that you have people
50:19
that got on opiates
50:20
that then had to scale up their opiate
50:23
use and are not having to scale down
50:24
their opiate use using opiates so it’s
50:28
almost like the opiate industry is doing
50:30
pretty damn well from that so when you
50:32
have something like a kratom or weed or
50:36
whatever else people can use to take the
50:38
edge off that isn’t an opiate that’s a
50:40
problem and needs to be treated as one
50:43
I’m in the public policy sphere because
50:47
it’s cutting in the into you know
50:48
business we got a good thing going we’ve
50:52
got a sympathetic public who wants to
50:54
you know stop with the people dying on
50:55
the streets of heroin and if they hear
50:57
there’s other ways to do it besides just
50:59
a different type of an opiate or opiate
51:01
mixture then that’s gonna suck because
51:05
that’s gonna you can’t charge nearly as
51:07
much to the insurance company for
51:09
something you can grow out of cow poop
51:11
as you can for suboxone or what was the
51:17
one that just saris and naloxone there
51:20
whew I never yeah I’ve heard of a few
51:22
but I mean they’re all the same thing
51:23
they’re all opiates that are you know so
51:26
right rich so there’s somebody broken
51:29
you you know Kremlin’s been broken down
51:30
into its chemical compound and there is
51:34
a company out there that made some set
51:37
of kratom mature genes I haven’t had to
51:41
do the speech and well mr. Giants PCOS
51:43
or something like that I can’t remember
51:45
the scientific report there is a company
51:47
out there that got the patent for for
51:52
synthetic
51:52
Adam the one of the board members of
51:56
that company was Scott Gottlieb who then
52:00
became a head of the FDA I knew everyone
52:03
today I know kratom yeah because he then
52:06
tried to ban kratom yeah of course yeah
52:09
yeah I think it has absolutely nothing
52:11
to do with the fact that he has the
52:13
patent this would be like if the guy who
52:15
made k2 or whatever it’s called got on
52:18
the FDA and is like we need to keep weed
52:19
illegal for uh is that what it’s called
52:21
the synthetic weed k2k spice like the
52:25
spice yes spice and ladder up yeah it’s
52:29
like if mr. nice guy here in Florida I
52:31
was like okay we now I’m sorry in charge
52:33
of the FDA make weed illegal forever but
52:37
yeah I have the stuff that actually has
52:40
killed people instead because instead of
52:43
the actual stuff so cool so I am very
52:47
excited to find out how the salmon
52:50
tasted so oh so while you’re doing this
52:52
while you’re doing what Sarah asked
52:54
please excuse that I don’t know the jus
52:56
connection the salmon LOX and cream
52:58
cheese filming it yes basically
53:02
so smoked smoked it–so Jews in my mind
53:08
and maybe this is just a city thing but
53:11
Jews in my mind had to have a very close
53:17
connection to smoked meats especially
53:18
smoked fishes if you hear of kippers and
53:21
you hear of all these different things
53:22
and I don’t know I just I haven’t got
53:25
seen a lot of it what’s that oh that’s
53:27
really that’s really good with it what
53:29
the salmon yeah no that’s really good
53:32
yes yes and you’ve even a baby no I
53:37
don’t even have salt in a through him go
53:39
imagine if had just a little bit of soy
53:41
sauce on it but yeah no so uh so well
53:45
good I’m glad that came out well um so
53:47
yeah so the the so I just to put this in
53:50
perspective earlier today I bought 10
53:53
pounds of hot smoked black pepper salmon
53:57
sockeye wild Alaskan sockeye because it
53:59
was on sale which is kind of the the
54:02
intersection of all Jewish things buying
54:04
smoked fish on sale
54:06
um is gefilte fish smoked no and if it
54:10
was I still wouldn’t eat it
54:11
it is a white fish that is putting a
54:14
brine to scare children I don’t know why
54:18
gefilte fish is a thing I don’t know I’m
54:21
sure it was like that was how it was
54:23
preserved before refrigeration but we’re
54:25
free now like we aren’t you know we
54:29
didn’t just get out of Egypt like we can
54:31
eat refrigerate I don’t know why could
54:34
fill two fish I don’t know why that’s
54:36
allowed that’s something that should be
54:38
I mean we talked about making something
54:39
illegal that’s terrible
54:42
Matt uh before I let you go so and see
54:44
if anyone else calls into it got any uh
54:46
any final things you want to share
54:47
before enjoying your delicious spike
54:50
affiant salmon tune in tomorrow night
54:53
for Hannah Cox on the writer’s block
54:56
Hannah Cox would the Conservatives who
54:57
were concerned with the death penalty
54:59
correct yeah yeah very good yeah be sure
55:02
to check out Matt on the writer’s block
55:05
tomorrow night at we do an eight yeah
55:10
eight o’clock with Hannah Cox
55:12
Conservatives concerned about the death
55:14
penalty thanks Matt for calling it
55:17
popular talk to you later enjoy your
55:19
fish you beautiful man um okay so yes
55:26
gefilte fish is a terrible thing it
55:28
should be illegal and um anyone who
55:31
imports it should be administered the
55:33
death penalty without an appeal my dad
55:36
used to buy that on sale after holidays
55:38
and then we donate it to the canned food
55:39
drives which is kind of like mean I mean
55:43
I’ve never been homeless or had like a
55:47
food security issues like you know I
55:48
don’t know where my next meals coming or
55:50
I’ve never really had that but just now
55:54
it kind of seems cruel like it’s like
55:55
man I could starve or I could eat this
55:57
what appears to be like some kind of
56:01
rotting like suet for those who don’t
56:04
know what it Cavill to fish looks like
56:05
we’re ever in science class and they’d
56:07
have this like thing filled with
56:09
formaldehyde
56:10
I don’t have some kind of like dead
56:12
animal in it and it was there for a long
56:14
time and so we’re just kind of falling
56:15
apart so that’s what could fill two fish
56:17
looks like and I think the brine is made
56:19
of formaldehyde
56:19
that would make sense because you have
56:21
to be intoxicated on something to eat it
56:25
so I would think that that’s probably
56:27
what that why it’s not illegal
56:29
probably the Jewish lobby if my had to
56:32
guess so now the thing with salmon smoke
56:34
especially smoked salmon I’ve just found
56:37
smoked fishes in general seem to have a
56:39
very like Jewish connection LOX gravlax
56:44
Nova LOX all that’s diamond come on yeah
56:47
LOX and then hot smoked salmon I had
56:50
some smoked salmon before I got out here
56:51
so I’m a big salmon eater I’m a
56:53
essentially a pescetarian and I eat a
56:56
lot of fish especially salmon because I
56:59
can get it to taste like chicken I don’t
57:02
know if that’s Jewish but lutefisk you I
57:07
don’t know if that qualifies as smoked
57:10
or it’s similar to gravlax and that I
57:15
think it gets buried at some point but
57:19
if you take anything any dead body and
57:23
cover it in lye and leave it there
57:27
that’s a crime against God in nature and
57:30
I I’ve never tried it I’ve only tried to
57:34
smell it and that was enough for me to
57:36
know that Scandinavians are there’s
57:40
something wrong something’s wrong there
57:47
that’s why Russia wasn’t able to
57:49
successfully invade Finland because they
57:55
were scared of a people who would eat
57:57
that lutefisk is preserved in lye yeah
58:01
because that’s what you do with food
58:04
let’s put it in lye so again we have to
58:10
filter fish which I am like no bad stop
58:13
um but smoked smoked fishes smoked
58:21
smoked fish I have there’s actually for
58:24
those who want to support moneyed waters
58:27
media there’s a $600 Bluetooth
58:32
smoker well bluetooth you can it’s a
58:35
smart smoker smoke up to I think thirty
58:38
pounds of meat and fish at a time 600
58:42
bucks it’s a deal it’s on Amazon that
58:45
would really help the moneyed waters
58:46
family especially me if any of you all
58:50
want to buy that my birthday is next
58:51
month um so just I’m just just putting
58:57
that out there and you have to soak it
58:59
multiple times to make it safe to eat
59:01
the lutefisk diptych tube wash the lye
59:04
out because it’s toxic and you die from
59:06
eating it but let’s wash it like six
59:08
times and then it’s fine to eat what a
59:12
great thing to eat what I’m gonna serve
59:14
this to my children YUM eat up it
59:19
doesn’t have much lie in it anymore kids
59:21
and it tastes terrible I don’t know what
59:24
it tastes like I know what it smells
59:25
like and I know from doing uh wine
59:29
tastings that your your taste and smell
59:34
are almost inextricably linked so if it
59:39
smells like that your brains not gonna
59:43
let it taste too good that’s what I know
59:47
about that so the other thing that we
59:52
didn’t really get to talk about much on
59:54
the show last night and I’m sure Jason
59:57
will cover this way better than I could
59:59
let me tell you something about Jason
60:00
Lyon the up-and-comer of muddy waters
60:07
media he has a show on Monday and
60:09
Friday’s called mr. America the bearded
60:12
truth he is like if I if you ever want
60:17
to know my opinion on something but you
60:20
just don’t want to deal with like my
60:22
smug dry sarcasm or my disarmingly good
60:29
looks almost pretty looks that I have
60:32
and and and you find me to be too much
60:35
then um
60:37
tune in to Jason Lyon who’s also an
60:39
attractive man I’m not sure I call him a
60:41
pretty man whereas I’m whereas I’m
60:44
pretty and it’s unsettling to some
60:46
people
60:46
and I get it I get it I get it I look in
60:48
the mirror and I’m like this is a bit
60:50
much so I get that so if this is too
60:55
much
60:55
if this aesthetic and these the the the
60:59
the overconfident smugness that comes
61:01
with it as would be expected with
61:05
someone who looks like this it’s too
61:07
much for you then tuned into a adjacent
61:09
lion mr. America the be tuned in anyway
61:12
but if but especially if you just can’t
61:14
take me definitely tune into Jason lion
61:16
mr. America the bearded truth because
61:18
he’s pretty much gives my opinion but
61:20
just better it’s like my show except
61:22
better in terms of like his delivery and
61:26
his his his lack of an eagerness to
61:30
offend and alienate people as I do I
61:34
forgot what I was sitting going with
61:36
that now that says wrong line I don’t
61:44
know what’s going on we may or may not
61:45
be online or offline I don’t know
61:48
whether we were online or offline but if
61:50
we’re online and welcome to the show I
61:52
was just trying to remember what I was
61:54
talking about would you yes are we
61:56
connected again are we connected
62:18
do we downline are we online I don’t
62:26
know if we’re online we may or may not
62:30
be online if I’m online
62:32
I think I’m online it says it says I’m
62:34
online it says I’m online I don’t know
62:40
if I yet says you’re back and it’s gone
62:42
now my back oh for God’s sake
62:47
I don’t know if I’m back or not I don’t
62:52
know how I’m back or not I says I might
62:57
be back I don’t know if I’m back says
63:02
I’m back says I’m back I think it’s yeah
63:11
I’m back I’m back hey hey everybody I’m
63:17
back um I see you I see you thank you so
63:22
much um so and I’m getting a call not
63:26
only my back I’m getting a call from I
63:29
think Matt again hi is this Matt again
63:33
this is he hung up this is good yeah I’m
63:39
back alright so um Jason Lyon has a
63:45
great show
63:46
and I don’t know what I was saying about
63:48
that oh he’s probably gonna talk about
63:52
this on Friday I don’t know if Matt will
63:55
have a chance to bring it up because
63:56
he’s talking with his guests Hannah
63:57
talks specifically about the death
63:59
penalty but I’ll bring it up this Trump
64:04
versus China tariff situation so the
64:10
stock market’s not been doing well this
64:12
week because it looks like it was
64:14
looking like the Trump administration
64:17
and the I should know this Chinese
64:21
administration we’re working out a trade
64:23
deal that was going to include a net
64:27
reduction of tariffs on both side and no
64:29
new terror
64:30
apparently it appears that China the
64:34
Chinese government reneged on some of
64:36
their promises of not introducing or
64:40
continuing tariffs and so the Trump
64:44
administration has responded by they’re
64:47
gonna be starting Friday they plan to
64:50
increase tariffs on quite a few things
64:53
from 10 percent to 25 percent and China
64:57
is was already scheduled to come I guess
64:59
I think this week to the White House to
65:01
discuss this the hope obviously is that
65:04
they work something out so that we won’t
65:06
won’t end up in this escalation of a
65:08
trade war so the common the common
65:15
narrative about tariffs the statist a
65:18
narrative about tariffs is that when
65:21
other countries their governments issue
65:24
tariffs on our products it hurts
65:28
our workers and the only thing that we
65:33
can do in retaliation is to pass our own
65:39
tariffs to hurt them as a negotiation
65:43
tactic to either get Americans to just
65:45
and this is where the groups diverge one
65:47
group says we want tariffs to remain
65:49
stuck i high so that people Americans
65:51
will buy American because it’ll be so
65:53
expensive to buy not American or there’s
65:58
another group who says no we want no
65:59
tariffs ideally or very few tariffs but
66:02
if they’re gonna have tariffs we need to
66:04
have tariffs and and that will you know
66:07
once those tariffs what if they if
66:09
they’re if they agree to get rid of
66:11
their tariffs then we’ll get rid of ours
66:13
as well here’s the problem with that
66:16
tariffs are a tax tariffs are attacks
66:22
that are ultimately and all taxes are
66:24
paid by the consumer so when when the
66:26
left for example will say well we’re not
66:28
raising taxes on people we just want to
66:30
raise them on these big corporations who
66:33
buys stuff from the big corporations all
66:36
of us that tax is added to it so it’s a
66:40
tax that all taxes are paid by the
66:42
consumer so a tariff is
66:44
for by the consumer well who is the
66:45
consumer in this situation us if China
66:52
is adding tariffs to American products
66:55
the Chinese consumer suffers as a result
66:58
of that they have to pay more for
67:00
American products or they have to end up
67:03
then paying you know more for a Chinese
67:06
product because it’s at least a little
67:07
bit less than the American product once
67:10
the tariff has been added if the issue
67:14
here is that American products are more
67:16
expensive than products that have to be
67:19
shipped here from thousands of miles
67:21
away that is a problem
67:23
with probably with American taxes
67:27
American regulations and other things
67:29
that make American products more
67:33
expensive the answer is to get rid of
67:36
those things so American products are
67:39
cheaper okay the answer is not to rate
67:43
introduce tariffs on things that are
67:45
cheaper it introduced taxes on things
67:47
that are cheaper so that you either not
67:49
have to pay more for that thing that’s
67:51
from somewhere else or pay more than you
67:54
were paying for the American thing so
67:56
you know if if without the tariffs the
67:59
foreign thing cost you this much and the
68:00
American thing cost you this much and
68:01
the tariff makes the foreign thing cost
68:03
this much you’re not saving money you’re
68:05
losing either way you’re getting screwed
68:07
because you’re having to pay more than
68:09
you were paying because taxes are theft
68:12
and they caught make things cost more
68:13
I would hope with a primarily
68:16
libertarian and conservative audience I
68:17
would have to say this so these
68:21
negotiations are sort of like two people
68:25
sitting across from each other
68:27
threatening to hit themselves if the
68:30
other one doesn’t stop hitting themself
68:31
if you don’t stop hitting yourself I’m
68:34
going to hit myself even harder until
68:35
you stop how about we just stop hitting
68:38
ourselves if China wants to make Goods
68:42
artificially expensive for their
68:46
consumers that hurts their consumers it
68:50
doesn’t really help because here’s the
68:53
reality if you make things too expensive
68:57
eventually the big suppliers go where
68:59
stuff’s cheaper so for example with
69:01
steel imagine you own a air-conditioning
69:06
company you have to use a lot of Steel
69:09
now you’ve been buying steel from Canada
69:12
China Mexico wherever because it’s
69:14
cheaper so they introduced steel the US
69:19
government introduces steel tariffs so
69:22
now you either have to buy American
69:27
steel which is more expensive than the
69:29
steel you were buying which means you
69:31
now have to increase the price of your
69:32
product making it less competitive with
69:34
foreign products because I thought the
69:36
whole idea was we were being more
69:37
competitive but it makes you less
69:38
competitive either way whether you’re
69:43
buying American steel or foreign steel
69:45
you’re now paying more than you used to
69:46
pay well your your a large company you
69:52
can just go where the Steel’s still
69:53
cheaper and so you make that initial
69:56
investment to move your factory to China
69:58
to Canada to Mexico or the government
70:02
says no no don’t go anywhere we’ll put
70:04
tariffs on those foreign air
70:06
conditioners to make your air
70:09
conditioners cheaper well now that
70:13
problem just moves on to some other
70:14
supplier that needs air conditioners for
70:16
their business and the worse you do you
70:18
make it the more it eventually gets down
70:20
to small businesses that can’t move and
70:22
they can’t compete with foreigners so
70:25
they just go out of business so this
70:28
doesn’t help American businesses any
70:30
more than any other tax does and it
70:31
definitely doesn’t help American
70:32
consumers any more than any other tax
70:34
does if foreign countries want to jump
70:36
off a bridge we don’t have to join them
70:39
people say oh we got to deal with this
70:41
trade in balance there’s a trade in
70:43
balance we’re buying more stuff from
70:45
China than China’s buy it from us and
70:47
it’s a travesty and it’s an imbalance
70:50
there is no such thing as a trade in
70:52
balance let me give you a scenario you
70:57
go to Walmart and you go up to the
71:01
Walmart greeter and the Walmart greeter
71:02
says hey welcome to Walmart you got I
71:04
want to hear any of that garbage from
71:06
you I got you I got your number I know
71:08
what’s going on here
71:10
I’m buying way more stuff from you than
71:12
you’re buying from me we have a trade
71:14
imbalance that’s just through the roof
71:16
it’s like $30,000 last year I bought
71:18
stuff from you
71:19
Walmart you didn’t buy a damn thing for
71:21
me not even a single damn thing our
71:23
trade imbalance is through the roof if
71:25
you don’t stop this I’m gonna start
71:27
taxing myself every time I buy anything
71:29
from you because I’m negotiating from a
71:32
position of strength and Walmart goes if
71:39
you want to tax yourself you can but you
71:43
don’t have anything I want to buy or
71:44
Walmart what do you have to buy what do
71:47
you have to sell well it doesn’t matter
71:48
now you’re probably thinking well that’s
71:52
not a trade imbalance because I gave
71:54
them money and they gave me stuff yeah
71:59
we’re not giving China money and they’re
72:02
giving us less money we’re buying stuff
72:05
from Chinese companies there was a there
72:09
was no imbalance there we voluntarily
72:11
chose to buy this thing and then China
72:16
and then we’ve and China agreed that we
72:18
would give them that amount some amount
72:20
of money for that that isn’t even trade
72:23
so trade imbalance is right up there
72:25
with all the other status buds buzzwords
72:29
like you know common sense gun control
72:31
and and I don’t know merit-based
72:37
immigration and and I have so many of
72:41
them usually that I use fairness in
72:44
media and with some other ones combating
72:48
inequality these are all various
72:53
buzzwords that are used by the
72:55
government to convince you that someone
72:57
is harming you other than the government
72:59
and that the answer is to have the
73:01
government harm you more tariffs are a
73:04
perfect example of that there are people
73:05
that are super happy that Trump is going
73:09
to make their cost of living more
73:10
expensive in some kind of negotiation to
73:13
tell China to stop making stuff more
73:16
expensive for their consumers why if we
73:22
want to compete
73:25
if we if we want our products to compete
73:28
with Chinese products remove the
73:30
regulations taxes and various other fees
73:33
and other things that licensing
73:35
licensing various other things that
73:37
government puts in place to raise the
73:39
bar so that it makes it harder for new
73:41
startups to come in and and also for
73:43
both the new startups and the existing
73:46
companies it just makes it more
73:47
expensive the big companies like that
73:49
I’m gonna get it I’m ranting now the big
73:51
companies love that they love stuff
73:54
being made harder and more expensive
73:56
because they’re already established
74:00
their competitors are not already
74:02
established Walmart has no problem look
74:05
at Facebook right now basically all but
74:07
you know they’re doing the Brer Rabbit
74:09
with the briar patch oh please don’t
74:11
regulate me they want to be regulated
74:13
they want to be turned into it utility
74:14
they want to be etched in government
74:16
stone forever and ever so that they
74:19
never have to worry about serious
74:21
competition replacing them and that’s
74:25
what these other big companies do
74:27
remember it was all the big you know we
74:29
were told we need net neutrality because
74:31
these bigwig companies I’m gonna run all
74:34
over us they’re gonna charge us if we
74:36
want if we want anything other than
74:37
Netflix and and you know Hulu and
74:41
Facebook weird if I pay millions of
74:43
dollars they’re gonna screw us because
74:45
that’ll definitely be a good business
74:46
model for them and yet it was all the
74:49
big media companies internet service
74:53
providers cable utilities all of them
74:56
were saying yeah we need net neutrality
75:00
to make sure we don’t do that they
75:03
wanted net neutrality
75:05
to prevent competition to enshrine
75:09
themselves as the existing competitors
75:11
and to basically allow them to create
75:15
these quasi cartels where they you know
75:18
where this is our territory and that’s
75:20
your territory so that prices go through
75:21
the roof and there’s little competition
75:23
and there’s not reigning real increase
75:25
in inequality of the product because
75:29
that’s what big businesses do and we’re
75:33
so convinced that Donald Trump or Obama
75:35
or Bush or whoever
75:38
is fighting for the common man with
75:41
these tariffs he’s making sure that the
75:42
American worker gets back on their feet
75:45
what he’s really doing is making sure
75:48
that a handful of entrenched special
75:51
interests driven companies rent seekers
75:55
companies that would not exist or at
75:57
least not exist as big as they are
75:58
without government interference can
76:02
continue to do this with little to no
76:06
competition at the expense of everyone
76:09
else especially you as the lower to
76:12
middle-income American consumer so
76:16
that’s what’s happening with the tariffs
76:19
and the China thing I don’t know like
76:23
Yao Ming Jacob Blue Bell says the oming
76:28
Yamin has a height disparity with me is
76:32
I think the I think that not sure how
76:38
yelling but yes let me see uh let me see
76:43
oh good the chat thing is doubled your
76:47
back speed talk that’s pretty much what
76:49
I’m doing don’t jinx it yeah oh my god
76:51
you aren’t D platform thank God and
76:54
cross your fingers throw their tea into
76:56
the harbor green tea yes how many
77:00
American products do the Chinese consume
77:02
in raw numbers i I don’t I don’t know
77:07
Trump just doesn’t want to admit the
77:09
Chinese have them by the balls I don’t
77:11
really know like I think that they’re
77:16
gonna end up having I think this is a
77:17
lot of palace intrigue
77:18
first of all Trump thrives on conflict
77:22
which is counterintuitive because most
77:25
most politicians are about they want
77:27
controlled conflict in specific
77:28
situations where they control all that
77:30
all the narratives and can present
77:32
themselves as a fighter but everywhere
77:33
else they want political expediency and
77:35
Trump seems to look for things where
77:38
politicians would usually look for
77:40
political expediency and instead just
77:42
make a massive culture war out of it he
77:46
seems to thrive in that kind of conflict
77:49
he’s very much as Jeb Bush called him
77:52
Jeb JEB please clap he called him the
77:55
chaos candidate and there’s some truth
77:57
to that so I don’t even know where to go
78:00
with that Brian Wolfe says China is
78:01
buying more services from us correct and
78:03
we buy more materials from them how is
78:05
that wrong I don’t know the breakdown
78:07
and and this is where I get out of the
78:09
collective stuff because we say China
78:10
and US consumers buy from providers and
78:14
consumers buy from providers and and and
78:17
vice versa I don’t know what the
78:18
breakdowns are I just know that there is
78:20
no real such thing as a trade trade
78:22
deficit unless someone got robbed that’s
78:24
a trade deficit if I come up to you and
78:26
say give me your damn money we have a
78:29
trade deficit with the federal
78:30
government and state governments and
78:32
city governments we have a trade deficit
78:33
with government at large they take our
78:35
money and don’t give us much that’s a
78:38
trade deficit that is a trade that is
78:40
unequal and the reason it’s unequal it’s
78:43
because it’s coerced you have to do it
78:45
if you don’t do it you’re gonna get in
78:47
trouble if you get in enough trouble you
78:49
go to jail if you fight against that
78:51
they will kill you there are IRS agents
78:53
who are like trained for fighting like
78:57
they’re like FBI or whatever to you know
78:59
if they have to take if they have to
79:01
take you down they will so just pay it
79:04
that’s a trade imbalance China has never
79:07
forced us to buy anything the Chinese
79:09
government or any Chinese providers know
79:11
any Mexican or Canadian or whatever
79:12
providers have ever forced us to buy a
79:14
single thing from any of them we
79:16
willingly purchased these things that’s
79:19
even trade I give you this much money
79:22
and you give me the thing that I wanted
79:24
so um let’s see tariffs solved trade
79:30
disputes the way a wall the same way a
79:32
wall fixes immigration issues did yes
79:34
Shane that’s yes the trade and the trade
79:41
arguments trade protectionism arguments
79:42
are the immigration to be applied the
79:45
things instead of people it’s the same
79:48
arguments but one is things and one is
79:50
people it’s a little bit more nuanced
79:51
because when this because it’s people
79:52
you’re now talking about stuff like
79:54
though our culture and and you know
79:56
crime and stuff like that but it all
79:57
boils down to the same thing I am scared
80:00
of competition
80:04
and so I want policies enacted to
80:09
violate my natural rights in their
80:11
natural rights harming all of us because
80:14
that at least gives me the feeling of
80:17
being protected but that’s the Patriot
80:19
Act or whatever I mean that’s that’s
80:20
every government thing boils down to
80:22
that Jeff Jeff peeka peeka peeka chick I
80:27
hope I said your name right Petr Cech
80:29
gave me the claps give me the claps
80:32
thank you so much Andrew Richard Ito
80:35
says finally someone understands this
80:38
whole misconception it’s you know and
80:40
and I get it you guys I get the whole
80:42
like if they if they’re if I have to
80:49
sell something for five hundred dollars
80:50
and they’re able to sell it for $300
80:53
that’s just not right and I’m an
80:54
American and you know we should be
80:56
buying American and something has to be
80:58
done and I I get it I get that
81:03
inclination when you break it down and
81:06
and and and examine how what’s it gonna
81:09
actually work what you’re really saying
81:11
is I want everything to be more
81:12
expensive which will ultimately harm me
81:14
because I also buy stuff from them and
81:16
so if you really distill it down into
81:18
what the argument is it makes the whole
81:20
thing sound like what it really is which
81:23
is a you know economically ill informed
81:27
and frightened people being taken
81:30
advantage of by people who do know how
81:32
it’s gonna work out and are perfectly
81:34
fine with the outcome because they’ve
81:35
positioned and leveraged themselves to
81:37
benefit from everyone else doing poorly
81:42
Oh fucker chick chick car chick I’m
81:51
probably still doing it wrong I’m sorry
81:52
I’m trying my best Jeff Shane the
81:55
problem with China and Russia is that
81:56
they’re capitalizing where the u.s.
81:57
screws up Venezuela in North Korea the
81:59
EU
82:00
Syria Iran etc Trump and his
82:03
predecessors have laid the groundwork
82:04
this is what so exactly correct and it’s
82:07
nothing special about the u.s. being
82:09
stupid this is what Empire costs name an
82:15
empire that doesn’t end up just getting
82:17
torn down
82:18
by almost everyone else and everyone
82:21
else applauding after it happens even if
82:24
it leads to negative consequences
82:25
because this is what happens uh Picard
82:30
chick Picard chick emphasis on second
82:33
Picard chick I’m trying um this is what
82:35
happens with Empire when you this is why
82:39
person when people say well you know if
82:41
we’re not out there doing this you know
82:42
us Millie you know people will tell me I
82:44
you know I’m against this war on
82:45
terrorism it’s that’s not right what’s
82:47
going on but I’ll tell you what it
82:48
scares me the vacuum of power if we
82:51
leave the Middle East if we because we
82:55
have a say we’re doing it it’s not being
82:57
done in our names and our loved ones
83:00
being sent there to do it we’re doing it
83:02
but that the whole collective thing with
83:04
that but anyway if we all of us together
83:06
in unison holding hands if we leave the
83:09
Middle East well then the Chinese and
83:12
the Russians are gonna have it and now
83:14
what now the Chinese and Russians are
83:17
going to deal with massive neverending
83:20
debt and having to either raise taxes or
83:26
cut Social Services or both just to pay
83:31
the debt or just like we’re doing create
83:35
endless reams of money that everyone
83:37
knows is worthless and you know pretend
83:41
that it’s still worth something to spend
83:43
on endless spending and creating a
83:46
massive debt bubble and speculation
83:49
bubble in the process and people
83:52
increasingly hating them not just their
83:54
government but them because as a you
83:58
know even quasi democratic system you’re
84:02
somewhat complicit you voted for not so
84:05
much in China but they they vote for
84:06
their cell leaders who would then vote
84:08
for whatever so it’s it’s it’s not
84:11
democracy but it’s they have some some
84:17
ish say but it’s gonna fall back on them
84:22
what are the benefits I think yeah
84:25
Primus prime access to to oil
84:32
there’s oil elsewhere so that this is an
84:34
interesting thing I learned in the early
84:36
2000 when that whole oil bubble was
84:38
happening if someone can get all their
84:40
oil here that frees up oil here because
84:45
there’s not some massive expansion in
84:46
the use of oil their use of oil is still
84:48
roughly going up at the same rate that
84:50
it was before and ours has been pretty
84:52
much level now this is at a time we’re
84:55
worried about oil the u.s. is a net
84:58
exporter of oil the hell do we need this
85:01
oil so much for now I get it
85:03
that sounds very nationalistic well we
85:06
have our own oil we don’t need these
85:07
other people’s oil but that’s not how
85:09
the global market for something works if
85:12
people’s needs are being met in a
85:15
relatively easy way it doesn’t matter if
85:19
we’re buying oil from Iran or if the EU
85:21
is brien oil from Iran which frees up
85:23
oil over here oils oils oil for the most
85:27
part so it’s not it isn’t you know wait
85:32
it’s not it’s we don’t need to kill all
85:38
these people and make ourselves less
85:40
safe and make ourselves less prosperous
85:42
for oil like it’s it’s not that is not a
85:45
prime need when there’s enough of it to
85:48
go around and especially at the time
85:50
when technology is is making us slowly
85:53
but with each year just slightly less
85:54
even dependent on fossil fuels so I you
85:58
know if they take the oil they take the
86:01
oil and they’ll get every other terrible
86:06
thing that comes with it like the world
86:08
hating them the world hated the USSR
86:11
they also hated America but they hated
86:14
the USSR um Cera system what is our damn
86:18
interest in Venezuela oil but but here’s
86:21
the problem what is our interest you’re
86:23
Sara’s in mind none it’s Exxon Mobil’s
86:27
interest its Chevron Texaco BP whatever
86:31
it’s it’s it is vested large corporate
86:35
interests and this is where the left
86:36
gets it right and then they just kind of
86:37
fall off the map there is little
86:42
daylight between
86:45
government and in a quasi fascist
86:50
corporis corporatist mixed economy I’ll
86:55
call a mixed economy people get mad when
86:57
they say fascist because they think I’m
86:58
comparing Trump to Hitler or what Adam
87:00
not any more than I was comparing Obama
87:02
to Hitler the economic plank of American
87:05
capitalism is corporatism which is the
87:09
economic plank of the fascist system so
87:12
I’m using fascist just talking about
87:14
that the economic plank of it but I’ll
87:16
say corporatist or mixed economy because
87:18
that gets people less upset then saying
87:21
fascist um meanwhile you know be mean to
87:25
a cop and then get back to me on whether
87:27
it’s fascist or not but anyway so the
87:31
the you know in a corporate in a
87:33
corporatist
87:34
faux capitalist structure like ours the
87:38
one we live under there’s almost no
87:40
daylight between government and big big
87:45
big business I don’t mean big business
87:47
like oh hey Jim’s got a few stores he’s
87:49
doing really well I mean big
87:51
I mean Walmart Apple Chevron I keep
87:54
saying Chevron I don’t know if they’re
87:56
the Texan you know – ExxonMobil these
87:58
huge oil companies these huge
88:00
agricultural companies these huge
88:03
insurance companies all of these massive
88:07
companies who have lobbyists who tell
88:10
politicians we will basically bankroll
88:13
your campaign and keep you in office
88:16
forever
88:16
if you use the levers of power to keep
88:19
us in in control in our various sectors
88:21
so what’s our interest amazon’s
88:25
definitely one – the thing with Amazon
88:26
is they’re providing such a value to the
88:28
consumer that it’s hard to see what
88:29
they’re doing but they are absolutely
88:30
entrenching themselves as a as a
88:33
permanent player they get incredibly
88:36
favorable rates with the post office
88:39
that none of us could get there also
88:40
bulk users but it’s not even a rate
88:42
that’s available to anyone else um so
88:46
what’s our interest
88:47
yours and mine Sarah yours in mind Jacob
88:50
anyone watching this none
88:53
our interest is in we don’t want to be
88:58
robbed to pay
88:59
to invade another country and
89:00
destabilize it even worse than it is now
89:02
people say things couldn’t possibly get
89:04
worse in Venezuela look at Syria it can
89:07
get worse in Venezuela one of my
89:09
Facebook friends Conor Jane nepo nepo
89:12
said he said that the situation in
89:17
Venezuela can be summed up in six words
89:18
and I believe the six words were Oh God
89:23
it was some it was something like
89:25
socialism sucks intervention will make
89:27
it worse or something like that and
89:29
that’s exactly the case Venezuela is
89:31
this in the situation they are because
89:32
socialism sucks
89:33
and they’ve as they’ve attempted to
89:35
implement real socialism it has done
89:38
what it always does price controls and
89:40
all that crap has led to everything that
89:41
any basic Austrian economist would say
89:45
would happen so it’s happened the
89:48
American government getting involved is
89:49
how it goes from Venezuela to Syria or
89:52
Somalia or something like that so no I
89:55
definitely I definitely would not
89:58
support us getting involved with that
90:03
Sarah Branyan on side note did you see
90:05
the whole thing about Baltimore getting
90:06
hacked they are asking for ransom paid
90:08
and crypto cryptocurrency Baltimore
90:11
can’t pay for that crap they can’t even
90:12
fix heat in their schools it’s a trade
90:13
deficit they are being robbed I did not
90:15
hear of this I know that the mayor
90:17
either has resigned or is in the process
90:19
of being resigned of resigning after she
90:22
they raided her house because she was
90:26
faking her book sales or something like
90:28
that she was pretending she was sick for
90:30
two months Baltimore so my parents fled
90:32
Baltimore 1988 and I have a lot of loved
90:38
ones that still live in Baltimore but I
90:39
am glad we left because it does not
90:42
sound like things are going well there
90:43
I’m not gonna lie it sounds like things
90:45
are going like what I would say that
90:48
like to my dad when I was a little kid
90:51
and I’d say well why did we move from
90:52
Baltimore and they go well cuz Myrtle
90:53
Beach is beautiful in it the weather is
90:55
nice all year long and traffic’s better
90:57
and then like when I got older my dad’s
90:59
like Baltimore was being ruined they
91:00
were destroying everything and so um I
91:02
took it somewhat with a grain of salt
91:04
but turns out I think he was right on
91:06
that one so III don’t know but how
91:12
yeah how do you hack a city Sara says it
91:16
makes me sad to see them eat zoo animals
91:18
so that is my interest but the point was
91:19
yes oil like that is the problem with
91:21
pulling out of the Middle East China and
91:22
Russia take the oil and damn it the
91:24
petrodollar shifts but look at what
91:27
comes with the petro dollar
91:28
we’re not benefiting from that there are
91:32
very large vested multinational
91:37
corporations that benefit from it we are
91:40
getting harmed from it the petro dollar
91:42
is built on massive speculation and in
91:45
global military dominance how is that
91:48
helping us with massive inflation ratios
91:51
our money being a joke the the debt that
91:57
is going to be paid at this point by our
91:58
great-grandchildren just continuing to
92:00
skyrocket with no end in sight and us
92:03
being told that if we want to $10
92:07
increase in our social security or we
92:09
don’t we want to be taxed less or we
92:11
want Social Security to perform that
92:12
we’re the greedy ones not them who
92:16
created this whole mess of a system but
92:17
us so no that doesn’t help us it doesn’t
92:21
help us yes I have an interest in that
92:24
seeing what the Venezuelan people are
92:26
going through is absolutely devastating
92:27
which is why when I hear New Zealand or
92:32
any of these countries that gun control
92:34
over here that gun control gun
92:36
controlled the logical conclusion of gun
92:38
control is the Venezuelan police can run
92:40
you over casually just for protesting
92:43
because there’s not a damn thing you can
92:44
do to stop them effectively other than
92:47
like making bombs and stuff like that
92:49
but for the average Venezuelan citizen
92:52
they have no way to effectively fight
92:54
back and that’s what you know we talk
92:57
about Oh self-defense from criminals and
93:00
hunting and things like those are all
93:01
important things that is not the primary
93:03
role for the right to keep and bear arms
93:05
and and whether you like the
93:07
Constitution or not I’m not a huge fan I
93:09
have much bigger fan of the Articles of
93:11
Confederation or just nothing but the
93:16
right to keep and bear arms is to the
93:20
right the ability to decentralize the
93:23
ability to effectively use violence and
93:25
if that ability
93:26
essentially put into a you know
93:30
essentially if the ability to
93:32
effectively project violence is
93:34
centralized into a government I don’t
93:36
care how you know happy-go-lucky and
93:39
kind and sweet that government is at
93:42
some point it can turn probably will
93:44
turn at the worst time when people are
93:47
doing poorly and you’re gonna get what
93:51
comes from that so so that that is that
93:53
this is you know to the people that are
93:54
applauding like oh thank God we can’t
93:57
have own weapons that fire that that can
94:00
hold more than ten rounds gonna need
94:04
more than that to take down a you know a
94:06
Mine Resistant armored personnel carrier
94:09
so so probably gonna start wrapping
94:15
things up is anyone else getting a ton
94:17
of stream dropouts I I don’t know what
94:20
to tell you guys I I’m not getting any
94:22
any notifications about it but it might
94:27
be happening I’m sorry if it is this is
94:29
the fun of using a bunch of free
94:31
services is that sometimes it doesn’t
94:33
work that well so we will have to it
94:36
looks like it’s still alive to me so
94:38
hopefully hopefully not
94:42
Shane Sweeney says for the u.s. to lose
94:46
all credibility and trading power post
94:48
hegemony well or hegemony however you
94:51
say that but again it’s the US
94:54
government like if you think of a US
94:59
that isn’t I think there’s so many
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things if the u.s. pulled out of NATO
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European countries who right now are
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thumbing their noses oh you know rhihub
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socialized health care now they have to
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pay for the room defense I’m gonna have
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socialized health care anymore or their
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taxes are gonna be so high that they
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effectively don’t own anything we are
95:25
subsidizing and this includes Israel we
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are subsidizing liberal social
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democracies progressive social
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democracies to have endless
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cradle-to-grave welfare
95:39
by subsidizing the defense that we all
95:42
think that they need why let them do it
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let them pay for they want socialized
95:51
everything good pay for it and you’ll
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need to pay for your military because
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not going to sit there in and and in and
95:57
and and and now you’re gonna have to
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acknowledge that some of these other
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world powers are actual threats and all
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the stuff that’s gonna come from that so
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no I am apt I totally welcome a world in
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which Russia and China are the main
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antagonists to the world and the u.s. is
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just sitting back trading with people
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and making money on top of money I win
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but start that now you know the the you
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know the was it Ron Paul said more with
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no one trade and peace with everyone or
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however I’ve no I know I just butchered
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that um but um that’s me all day long I
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I have no interest in you know the lives
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and well-being and financial future of
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my selves and every single person I care
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about being leveraged for powerful
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multinational companies who have you
96:51
know rent-seeking lobbyists in
96:53
government I have no interest in that so
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on that cheery note I think I’m gonna
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wrap things up because you guys don’t
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seem to have any more questions and I
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think I’ve covered way more than I
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thought I was I’ve been up here almost
97:09
I’ll say it one more thing
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FY Baltimore had some municipal systems
97:16
hacked with ransomware I’m reading that
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people were having issues paying
97:19
property debts because they can access
97:20
any files regarding people specific
97:22
debts several Department email systems
97:24
aren’t working that sounds that sounds
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great
97:28
that wasn’t fun i but like i said i have
97:30
a lot of loved ones living in baltimore
97:32
so i don’t want to crow too loudly about
97:34
that but I mean Baltimore has been on
97:35
that slope there’s another place again
97:37
I’m a gun
97:38
Baltimore’s been on that you can’t have
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a gun and yet you know some of the
97:41
highest gun violence rates on earth not
97:44
to mention the police that you know like
97:45
the plants stuff on people any type of
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gun control is unconstitutional the
97:49
reason for the Second Amendment is to
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protect ourselves from our own
97:51
government meaning the citizens at large
97:53
able to have the same weapons as a
97:54
government the government’s military I’m
97:57
not listen Andrew I’m not for those who
97:59
don’t know I’m an intrical capitalist or
98:00
an orchid pan or kiss right hand or kiss
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whatever you want to call me I’m not a
98:04
huge fan of the Constitution because I
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think if you just if you get away from
98:08
the Bill of Rights and you look at like
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the first seven articles it is largely
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it’s largely an explanation of how
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government can rob us kidnap us and and
98:19
kill us as they see fit
98:20
just the taxation clause in the habeas
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corpus clause are enough to tell me that
98:24
the anti-federalists were correct and
98:26
that we should have stuck if we had to
98:27
stick with anything to the Articles of
98:29
Confederation which actually did limit
98:31
government by not allowing them to tax
98:33
us anyway that said the spirit behind
98:38
the second Amendment or the abstence of
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the you know what we are told is the
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extensible purpose behind the Second
98:48
Amendment yes it is not about it is not
98:52
about self-protection from criminals
98:55
although that’s again that’s an
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important thing
98:57
it’s not about target shooting it’s not
98:59
about hunting it is about keeping the
99:03
reality of power in check that the more
99:06
power is centralized the more the
99:08
ability to project violence is
99:10
centralized the worse that’s gonna be
99:12
okay
99:14
you and a neighbor having a beef and you
99:17
have an Apache helicopter and you know
99:21
they’ve got a Taser at the end of the
99:23
day you know that you can run over that
99:25
person and so that person is at the
99:26
mercy of your goodwill if you have any
99:28
if you guys are roughly equally armed
99:32
that’s not even gonna come up because
99:34
either of you you you want to go there
99:36
you both how you your lives as normal
99:37
human beings and want to just go about
99:39
your life so yes that’s you know people
99:44
we can argue about unconstitutional
99:46
constitutional I don’t really get into
99:48
that stuff because that’s a legalism
99:49
argument but got any type of gun
99:51
controls a violation of your natural
99:53
right to protect yourself from any and
99:55
all threats including centralized ones
99:57
who give themselves badges and rights on
99:58
cheated right on sheets of paper that
100:00
they’re allowed to do it still wrong so
100:04
so guys I think I’ve covered everything
100:06
I think I’m gonna get out here get out
100:08
of here when my back is still feeling
100:10
somewhat normal um so thanks again for
100:14
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102:14
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102:16
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102:18
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102:36
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102:38
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102:41
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102:44
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102:45
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102:54
with mr. America the bearded truth on
102:57
Friday nights have a great weekend this
103:00
is the Mother’s Day weekend do something
103:01
nice if your mother if you are blessed
103:03
to have a mother who is still alive do
103:07
something nice for do something sweet
103:09
for and if you’re a mother happy
103:11
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103:12
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103:15
come back here Monday for the week
103:18
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103:21
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103:25
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103:28
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103:31
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103:38
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103:44
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103:49
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103:53
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103:56
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104:00
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104:02
let you know who it is but be sure to
104:03
tune in so guys thanks again for joining
104:06
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104:10
being this rusty I had a great time I
104:13
hope you did thanks again and god
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Spike Cohen
Spike Cohen
Local Jew. Contrarian stoic sentimentalist. Antidisestablishmentarianism. Will pet your dog.