(((My Fellow Americans))) #35: Welcome Back, Cohen

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and now beautiful you’re watching my
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fellow Americans with your host spike
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Cohen yes welcome to the show
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yes thank you thank you yes thank you so
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much thank you
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keep clapping like us you can stop now
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thank you for joining welcome to my
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fellow Americans I am literally spike
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Cohen it has been six weeks five weeks
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six weeks it has been over a month since
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I’ve done this show it’s been a just
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tragedy of errors or comedy of errors a
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tragedy it’s been a comic tragedy why I
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haven’t been in front of you so first
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thing so if if you remember the last
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time that your beloved host me spike
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Cohen was on actually let’s let’s start
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with something I’m so rusty
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I am so rusty this is a muddied waters
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him as always so as I alluded to before
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forgetting that I had stuff I had to do
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before the show started we’re at the
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start of the show you might be wondering
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spike where have you been where’s your
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show bin why have you only done shows
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with Matt on the couch and while that’s
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an amazing angle for you spike that kind
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of top-down look it makes you look
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youthful even more youthful than you
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normally look why were you doing it
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that’s a great question it’s amazing
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that all of you thought and said that at
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the same time with the same intonation
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that I did um so I had my last episode
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with Joshua Jossie Joshua bitter Smith
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and James Michael Smith and I’m saying
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no Michael Smith and to do to promote
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their documentary that they’re working
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on living in Liberty and after that show
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I got up and said I’m gonna go cook food
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because I’m a human and eat and I went
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and bent down to get something and
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experienced the most excruciating pain
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I’ve ever had in my life in my back and
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wasn’t able to walk for the better part
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of two days or I was it was just hurt so
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much I couldn’t like put any pressure on
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my legs or my back and so the last month
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and a half has been a story of me
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working to be able to walk again which I
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can now thankfully but the hardest thing
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still is sitting upright like this you’d
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think that that wouldn’t be as our
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it’s walking but it’s actually harder
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and so we’re gonna do this as long as I
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can I did it for about an hour and a
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half yesterday and was feeling it so
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we’re gonna do it as long as we can
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today that’s why I don’t have a guest I
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don’t have someone on here you know
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sharing their time with us only to then
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you know have to cancel the show halfway
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through because of my back so it’s just
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gonna be me here doing my thing and I’m
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gonna start with oh I didn’t share this
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I am rusty so guys when I say I’m rusty
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I am rusty
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I haven’t even shared this on my own
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Facebook this is how rusty I am this is
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what happens when you don’t do something
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for you don’t do something for or let’s
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see four six six weeks okay um so yeah
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so it’s gonna be you and me today so
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feel free to comment with any questions
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or thoughts you have first of all first
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of all something that we were addressing
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yesterday and we promised we would
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update you here at muddied waters media
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the very second we knew it was looking
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like bad so we talked yesterday Matt and
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I on the muddy waters of freedom we
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talked about the fact that the city of
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Denver was having a referendum on
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whether or not to decriminalize
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psilocybe in mushrooms otherwise known
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as psychedelic mushrooms or magic
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mushrooms or mushrooms that make you
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throw up and then trip really hard and
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love it which I did it was looking last
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night like we were gonna have to share
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some bad news that it came really close
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but you know is they voted against it I
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think when I looked I don’t have to the
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morn 2:00 in the morning or midnight or
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whatever I look last night it was 48 to
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52 52 against I keep wanting to say
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legalize decriminalizing it so it will
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still be illegal
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they just won’t geo you for it
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and there’s actually there a lot of
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people that believe that
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decriminalization is better than
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legalization because
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legalization comes with regulation and
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taxation and a bunch of other things
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that actually make it worse
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whereas decriminalization just says yeah
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you’re not supposed to do it but we’re
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not gonna do anything about it that we
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might take it from you if we find it but
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that’s like the worst thing and we’re
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not gonna tax it we’re not gonna
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regulate it you just if you do it just
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basically don’t get caught but we’re not
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gonna give you jail time or anything
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like that which is a lot of people would
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say that that that’s even better it
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passed it passed narrowly but it passed
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it’s going to be interesting to see how
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this plays out it’s also going to be
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interesting to see how that how this
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plays out on the federal level so weed
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has been one thing because the reality
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is the vast majority of people are okay
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with even recreational weed being legal
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at this point so even though it is
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illegal on the federal level there’s
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just not a lot of energy in Congress or
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in the White House to enforce it or at
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least to enforce it in places where
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they’ve legalized it even though it’s
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still technically federally illegal and
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so places like Oregon and Vermont
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Massachusetts in California as well as
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other states that have or in Colorado
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and other states that have states and
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cities that have either decriminalized
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it or allowed it for medical use or or
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made it completely legal even for
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recreational use or you know you know
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regulated or whatever they’ve done even
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though it’s technically completely
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illegal for any use even medical at the
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federal level the feds have been for the
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most part kind of back and off and
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letting the states do it well now we’re
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doing psychedelics so we’re gonna see
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how that goes now this was a good
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psychedelic to pick as far as I know no
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one has ever died for magic mushrooms
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they may have but I’m not aware of it it
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is one of the more mild psychedelics it
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has been there are studies showing that
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it could be helpful in dealing with
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depression and for inpatients people
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with depression and other emotional
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issues that were resistant to weren’t
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able to treat it using traditional or
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legal psychotropic meds so there’s a
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similar to marijuana there’s sort of
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this you know medical slab
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it’s not that harmful and people enjoy
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it type of argument but this is not we
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this is a that we’re now talking
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psychedelics so now questions of like
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okay well you can’t take psychedelics
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and drive or can you and how will that
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be tested so it’s gonna be fun to see
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how that plays out but there are a lot
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of worrying trends um in the political
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world most of the trends are towards
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people wanting government to make other
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people do something whether it’s make
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them pay me more or make them you know
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you know put taxes on products that are
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from other countries because I want to
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have to pay more for stuff because
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somehow that’s gonna help American
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workers or you know stop those people
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from crossing the border into the
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country if you know if they don’t you
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know fill out all the paperwork or you
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know don’t let people assume my gender
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or misgender me or you know if I want a
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if I want a you know a wedding cake and
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if I want a gay wedding cake from a
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Christian Baker they should have to make
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it for me even if they’re against it or
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Facebook needs to be made to allow me to
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be on their platform or you know all
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these different opinions are all they
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all boil down to someone is doing
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something with their property and I
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don’t like it and I want the government
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to stop them from doing it or force them
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to do it a different way what we’re
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seeing with drugs is kind of different
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where it’s people saying I don’t really
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think government should tell people what
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they can do with their bodies so that’s
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it you know I’m an anarchist I’m an
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radical libertarian and so there’s
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obviously not a lot in the political
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world for me to be happy about other
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than to watch smug people get upset
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that’s really what uh what makes me
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happy and smug and one thing that isn’t
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troubling is is seeing how people are
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kind of relaxing their attitudes about
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even if you’re against drugs even though
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you know I’ve been sober for thirteen
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years I’m not gonna do drugs I think for
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the most part getting intoxicated it’s
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usually not a good idea just in general
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but it’s none of my business what you do
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and it’s good to see that
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it seems to be people are getting more
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and more along that way of thinking so
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wanted to update you on that magic
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mushrooms now decriminalize or will be
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decriminalized in Denver I don’t know
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when it’s when it’s as of but that’s
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what we’re being told so I’m gonna go
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through the comments
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Jacob LaBelle pie is quantifiably better
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than cake pie is like a liquid cake I
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mean you know I mean let’s talk about
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cake for a second cake is an amazing
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thing like it’s it’s it’s bread that’s
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sweet and and has you know often other
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things in it pie takes it to a
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completely different level so I tend to
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agree with you because I can think of a
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lot of pies that I like better than
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cakes but I can’t think of a cake that I
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like better than a pie my new best
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friend Shane Sweeney says and I’m
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literally Saint Shane Sweeney which is
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which is true we Shane Sweeney and I had
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some Street beef for a fortnight and
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we’ve quashed it um we’re gonna keep it
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real now
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no more East Coast West Coast okay it
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actually is cuz I’m on the east coast of
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South Carolina and he is he’s on the
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west side but we’ve quashed that we
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killed it we’re gonna increase the peace
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in these streets
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Adam Montgomery says in the topic is so
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welcome to my show um where usually I
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have a guest and the topic is usually
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what that guest is doing and then we
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talk about current events and their
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thoughts on things and usually either a
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libertarian guest or a I guess
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right-of-center guest or I guess small
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government guests every once in a while
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we get a progressive on here but usually
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not but we don’t have a guest so the
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topic today is me trifle is better than
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both then both pie and kay I don’t even
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know what trifle is I don’t like
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trifling like you’ve been trifling lies
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you’ve been reported that’s probably I
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think I’m seeing a beef in my comments
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yeah
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yeah you guys can pretty tough yeah you
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guys are gonna you guys are gonna work
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that out between the two of you Sarah
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Branyan says you just got me in trouble
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I said here we go listen to the Jew and
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my husband Faust that’s what the damn
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thing I click I mean you’re Jewish like
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we get to do that right like we get to
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do the the Jewish tropes we’re Jewish
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that’s like black people with their word
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you know like they can say it we can’t
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we can’t say it we’re not black but they
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can say it they can and then they can
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also say like you know who really
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shouldn’t be saying this but then like
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if someone if I said yeah you’re right
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you know that’s probably not something
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you should say it’ll be like hey back
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off colonizer right so that’s like it’s
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not just their word to say it’s their
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word to say that they shouldn’t say so I
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think we should there’s nothing wrong
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with you saying listen to the Jew more
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arguing between Jacob and Fotini well
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you have Collins I’m sure this wouldn’t
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be used with malice you know what gosh
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dang it
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let’s do that cuz that won’t be it there
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is no way that I will regret doing this
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one on to let me go do at home I mean
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let me check something yeah there we go
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so if you want to call I think this will
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work call eight one three six four four
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two seven two two and B why you know I
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don’t know I
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this could go many ways but we’ll see I
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have nothing else to do I am oh and I’m
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not in the right hangout Stephen take
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the call if it comes in now I am I think
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this will work if someone wants to call
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you were free to call otherwise I’m
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going to just keep talking which is your
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fault just seeing a commercial for
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students stool softeners that’s nice
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mushrooms are even safer than weed the
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federal government should force people
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to take shrooms there are worse things
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that the federal government could force
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us to do Sarah says I didn’t get an
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answer to this yesterday but essentially
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if they take Trump off the ballot in
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California can’t they just write them in
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we had DC mayor win as a write-in it was
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a big deal
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you can’t just write the person and you
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also have to check next to their name um
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I don’t know how that would work
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I don’t know oh that was quick so we’re
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getting a call call the realtor next
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room there are worse things that the
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federal government of course will do I’m
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hearing myself
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hi I’m spike I can hear myself talking
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through your recording through your
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watching it do I do you mind meeting
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that for a second you got a call yeah
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hey who’s this it’s Jason Willis Jason
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Willis hi this is getting even better
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cuz now I hear myself welcoming you to
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the show tonight can I get you to move
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that I can I can try okay I’m I’m in
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North Dakota so you know things don’t
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work so ladies and gentlemen this is my
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favorite Canadian I think he’s Canadian
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well no oh god I haven’t my lady and my
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wife is Canadian my second favorite
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Canadian the the illustrious Jason
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Willis Jason welcome to the show well
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thank you for having me sir Jason Willis
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by the way if you are ever in North
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Dakota and want a delicious chokecherry
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meal um Jason Willis is who you would go
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to for that I am sitting here and
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enjoying my Minnesota Twins because I am
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actually from Minnesota not Canada but
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we are currently defeating the Canadian
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baseball team which is the Toronto Blue
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Jays so so your kids like that you
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kind of completely not because not at
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all millions no lose you’re the one who
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married the Canadian not me oh yeah but
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we also don’t really watch baseball so
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oh you’re a common kirby puckett
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I remember kirby puckett that was a big
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guy and that’s really all I remember
18:46
about the twins if you don’t watch
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baseball you’re basically a communist
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I’ve been accused of worse what’s what
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so what’s going on what do you what do
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you think about this room thing other
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than you think they’ve got my Jesus all
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the ticket in my heart of hearts I am a
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very much like you where I think people
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should be able to do whatever they want
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to themselves without harming others
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right I do see the the downside of this
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on a larger scale societal level because
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I have had the opportunity to go through
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Denver the last couple years and there
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is a significant homeless problem there
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and I think this will contribute to that
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and I think the the drug legalization
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has contributed to their ongoing and
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growing homeless problem there I don’t
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recommend or advocate the fact that
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government should be involved to fix it
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I think it can fix itself right but but
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but that’s not to be said that that that
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actions don’t have consequences
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okay I mean you know so I am a believer
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that you know individual responsibility
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and individual freedom go hand in hand
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you can’t have one without the other
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yeah so that being said I I do see this
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being a kind of a pathway for some of
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these places to have more and more
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problems inside of their
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inside of their their communities that
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function kind of underneath the radar
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they’re homeless populations and things
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like that right what I what I find
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interesting is that while these things
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get past at the state level and they’re
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heralded as you know progressive
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movements forward for legalization in
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either Washington or or Colorado right
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and the the only way they get moved
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forward and this is literally the only
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way and it’s so shocking and surprising
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to me but the only way they actually
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ever do get moved forward and it was a
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great distinction that you made at the
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beginning of your show
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between decriminalization and
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legalization but the only way they do
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get move forward is through legalization
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because the government wants their piece
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right the only way that’s going to
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happen is if they can tax it and
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regulate it right and everybody seems to
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be so happy with that because they get
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what they want
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they want to be able to do their drugs
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and everything right and they want to be
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able to do the thing without going to
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jail or risk going to jail right exactly
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and and they don’t see the downside or
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the negative side of the taxation and
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the legal and regulation of it
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absolutely and and what what ends up
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happening and it’s being borne out in
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both Seattle and Denver two of the most
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high populous areas of homelessness is
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both places have determined that they
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will not only decriminalize but legalize
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and tax these different shops and things
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that that can sell weed and pot and I’m
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assuming right that now shrooms is
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probably not too far behind that um but
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why isn’t the money then going forward
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to pay for the things that it’s helping
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to create the money is not being put
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towards the homeless problems the
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homeless problems continue to grow even
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after the legalization has happened
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right all right
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yeah exactly it’s being thrown into
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these boondoggles and all these special
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pet projects that everybody wants to
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fund but people are flocking to these
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places in droves and they’re living on
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the streets and there have addiction
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problems and they have these problems
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and it’s
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I’m legalized and everybody’s making
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money off of it both the private side
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and the public side but the but the
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continuing problem the societal problem
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is not being addressed and it’s it’s
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it’s very like kind of ironic and funny
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to me that everybody sees these things
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as victories from the uber left to the
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uber right as like Oh while these beasts
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what there’s freedom happening there but
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in actuality all it is is more
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government it’s just disguised a little
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bit better right right so you’re almost
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entirely agree with everything you just
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said I’d like to kind of break down the
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different parts of it so if we and then
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this is a common theme with the show if
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we look at government as what it
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essentially acts as which is an
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organized crime unit that has given
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itself legal authorization to do what it
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does it kind of makes what they do more
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clear and this is a perfect example of
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that so if we look at how they’ve
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handled gambling there used to be a
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thing called the numbers I think that
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probably still exists but it was a lot
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bigger in them in the past where
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basically was a lottery that was run by
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you know local people I would yeah and
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so they were out of time it was it was
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the mob doing it and originally it was
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probably just normal people doing it but
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the mob was like they muscled in and
24:13
said this is our thing now well then the
24:15
big mob came in and said no the numbers
24:18
is immoral and it’s a terrible thing and
24:20
gambling is bad and the Bible says not
24:22
to do it and and they used those as
24:23
pretext to to stop the mob from doing
24:27
the numbers and then what did they do
24:28
they immediately turned around and said
24:30
well what we really need is the lottery
24:32
and they call it the education lottery
24:35
or the infrastructure lottery or
24:36
whatever they can call it to try to make
24:38
it sound like it’s something other than
24:39
the numbers and of course the difference
24:41
between the lottery is that the states
24:44
have and the numbers is that the odds
24:45
are way more geared towards people not
24:48
making any money it is really a tax on
24:50
poor people who don’t have good
24:51
financial planning and I say that as
24:53
someone who occasionally will buy a
24:54
ticket or two when the the jackpot is
24:58
some ridiculous you know billion dollar
25:00
figure or whatever multi-million dollar
25:02
figure but for the most part people are
25:04
going to put thousands of dollars a year
25:05
in and get nothing from it and you know
25:08
every once in a while they’ll get back
25:09
20 bucks or 50 bucks and I’ll get that
25:11
serotonin rush but in the reality
25:12
they’re losing money if they just took
25:14
him that taking that money and put it in
25:15
a simple savings account
25:16
not to mention an actual investment
25:19
account they do way better but it’s you
25:21
know now the government controls that so
25:23
here’s another example of that drugs are
25:24
bad drugs are bad drugs are bad you know
25:26
I was a dare kid I had the Dare shirt
25:29
you know Nancy Reagan justjust say no
25:31
just say no and now that they’ve
25:33
successfully kind of or I shouldn’t say
25:37
successfully they’ve they’ve created
25:39
this this idea that you know buying
25:42
drugs is bad now they step in and go
25:44
well you know if we taxed it then
25:48
imagine all the great things we could do
25:50
and and and they sort of turn it around
25:52
so now so it’s really they just like you
25:54
said they want their cut um so
25:56
decriminalization ‘he’s first step next
25:57
step is is full legalization which has
26:00
some positives but like I said it’s
26:02
mostly we would argue mostly negatives
26:05
the other side of that that you were
26:07
talking about was the the homeless thing
26:08
that and and just the negative
26:11
consequences in general and it’s because
26:13
in a free in a truly free society if we
26:18
said you can do whatever you want with
26:21
your body put whatever you want in it do
26:24
whatever you want with it
26:25
it’s your body just don’t hurt anyone
26:26
else but you can do whatever you want we
26:28
lived in a truly free society the flip
26:30
side of that and you that’s what you
26:31
were talking about and you are also
26:33
responsible for the consequences of that
26:35
because you and everyone else is free to
26:37
do what they want with their bodies that
26:39
means no one else can be forced to pay
26:41
for your bad choices so if you and this
26:45
could be anything this could be if you
26:46
eat too much or you don’t work out
26:48
enough for you you know you have bad
26:50
life choices whether it’s drugs alcohol
26:52
whatever whatever even just bad my
26:54
finances what you exactly find it if
26:56
you’re just bad money if you put all
26:58
your money in the lottery whatever it is
27:00
if the only one is gonna be a bunch of
27:03
money into student loans and young make
27:06
oh yeah yeah right now using figures on
27:13
it basket weaving yeah yeah exactly it
27:16
they’ve they’ve they’ve tried to take
27:19
and I’ve this is just my personal take
27:22
on the whole thing yeah
27:23
collectivism is is the evil that tries
27:29
to remove individuality and they tried
27:32
to remove individual responsibility
27:35
along with it so what they try to do is
27:38
kind of create this pseudo safety net
27:42
that says you don’t need to be
27:43
responsible for anything that you do
27:45
well figure well Oh we’ll figure out a
27:49
way to take care of you well we’re also
27:52
gonna be able to limit everything you do
27:54
well and we’re not gonna force you to be
27:57
responsible for what you do we’re gonna
27:58
force you to be responsible for what
28:00
everybody does and everyone else is
28:02
getting forced to which of course begs
28:04
the question well then why should I be
28:05
responsible because if I’m not if I am
28:08
responsible I have to pay for
28:09
irresponsible people and if I’m
28:11
irresponsible then responsible people
28:13
have to pay for me so that’s a very
28:15
perverse incentive if if a disincentive
28:18
to people to actually make good life
28:21
choices
28:22
well it’s it’s the paradox that that
28:25
will always kill collectivism it cannot
28:29
it inherently cannot survive because it
28:32
goes against human nature yep that’s
28:36
what this shows about my friend so hey
28:39
before I let you go cuz I just want to
28:40
make sure I’m not missing anyone else
28:42
there any other final thoughts you want
28:43
to give us gifts don’t leave
28:45
decriminalize legalize our tax
28:48
chokecherries in any fashion and we’ll
28:50
be fine
28:51
keep chokecherries illegal 2019 all
28:56
right okay thanks a lot
28:58
and I’m gonna watch the rest of the show
29:00
thing yeah god save our queen god bless
29:01
Canada thank you yeah yeah whatever
29:04
cool so we learned two good things one
29:07
is that the calling system works and two
29:09
is that Jason is a great calling yes
29:13
thank you again Jason let’s see what we
29:15
have on the calls here and Jason is
29:17
absolutely where I mean this all breaks
29:18
down too and you can expand extrapolate
29:20
this to other stuff too whether it’s
29:23
immigration or prostitution or any of
29:28
these and I’m not equating immigration
29:30
to prostitution but I’m just saying when
29:31
you have the government say yeah you can
29:33
do whatever you want
29:34
but they’re also saying we will force
29:36
people
29:37
to pay for your choices good or bad you
29:40
are that’s not because people go well if
29:43
you let people you know what the
29:44
libertarians want is for everyone to be
29:46
on welfare because they made bad choices
29:48
but that’s not looking at the reality
29:50
that it’s being created by the
29:53
government the government is creating
29:55
this reality that would not otherwise
29:57
exist through collectivism like Jason
29:59
said by saying hey look do whatever you
30:02
want and if it screws up if it’s in it
30:05
because it’s probably in advisable to do
30:06
magic mushrooms every single day you
30:09
know or at least you know large doses of
30:11
magic mushrooms every single day and
30:12
smokin weed all day and and you know you
30:15
know seeing hookers all day and and you
30:18
know whatever like you know doing all
30:20
this stuff and I haven’t a job and you
30:21
know having a big student loan and all
30:22
these other things things get rough
30:26
don’t worry about it we’ll have someone
30:28
else pay for you all of your life
30:29
choices well why the hell other than
30:33
just a good personal ethic would people
30:37
not do those things and even if the
30:40
majority of people which this is
30:41
charitable but even if the vast majority
30:44
of people just have a personal ethic
30:45
that’s like well I’m just gonna do the
30:47
right thing regardless which is provably
30:50
false but let’s say it is you don’t need
30:52
much more than a small to moderate
30:54
minority of people and I’m when I say
30:57
minority I mean I don’t mean minorities
30:58
I mean numerical minority of people you
31:01
don’t need more than ten fifteen twenty
31:03
percent of people would be like I’m
31:05
gonna do whatever I want I’m gonna do
31:07
this I’m gonna do that I’m gonna do this
31:08
I’m gonna do that and it and it crushes
31:10
it crushes it puts a crushing burden on
31:12
everyone else which is why and
31:14
government uses this to get people to
31:17
say no make that illegal put people in
31:19
jail for doing it because I don’t want
31:20
to pay for their choices they’re not
31:22
saying necessarily I think you shouldn’t
31:24
be allowed to do this they’re saying
31:26
when you do this if it fails I don’t
31:30
want to be forced to be responsible for
31:32
you and I think if government were
31:34
honest they’d be able to have a better
31:37
discovery or a better society wherein
31:40
people could you know you’re responsible
31:43
for your choices and that even includes
31:46
immigration you come here things don’t
31:48
work out okay well then go back home
31:51
or you can stay here and try to make it
31:52
work but no one’s gonna be forced to
31:55
make you comfortable while you’re here
31:58
so anyway let’s go through these
31:59
comments Oh Sarah asked about Trump on
32:03
the ballot I have no idea how that works
32:05
so Sarah was talking about there was a
32:09
we talked yesterday on the muddy waters
32:12
of freedom about California the
32:14
legislature I don’t know if the governor
32:16
signed it but they’ve they’ve passed a
32:18
law which they passed before but it’s
32:20
never been signed that says that in
32:23
order to be on the presidential ballot
32:25
in California you have to have released
32:27
your last five years of tax returns and
32:30
which is obviously pushed at its it’s
32:33
targeted to trump who won’t release his
32:35
tax returns or at least his most recent
32:38
ones and it wouldn’t matter if we cut if
32:43
the electoral college system remained
32:45
for Republicans because Republicans
32:47
don’t win California where it becomes an
32:49
issue is with this national popular vote
32:51
if you now have a situation where in it
32:54
now matters who won the popular vote as
32:57
opposed to the Electoral College
32:59
California I would imagine Republicans
33:03
get the Republican presidential
33:04
candidate gets if not it’s definitely
33:08
one of the top vote getting states for
33:10
them even though they lose it just
33:11
because of how big it is how big the
33:14
population is so I would bet that they’d
33:16
probably get more votes in California
33:18
than in Texas just because California’s
33:20
population is so much bigger so that
33:21
would be a huge loss for Republicans or
33:24
for any anyone who didn’t release their
33:26
tax returns in terms of winning the
33:28
national the national vote and I think
33:30
New York and some other states have
33:31
signed on to so if that if that ever
33:32
became a thing where you had to release
33:34
your tax returns then now it’s you know
33:38
now goodly you’re not gonna win
33:39
basically um the but can they call write
33:43
them in probably yeah but obviously it’s
33:46
gonna be harder to get someone to write
33:47
in a name than to just check a name but
33:50
I think for the presidential level you
33:52
probably get away with a write-in
33:53
campaign but I don’t know they may not
33:54
allow right I really I don’t know how
33:56
that works so I apologize um shapes
34:01
Shane Sweeney says West Side till I move
34:03
at some point that’s me with these
34:05
man I’m I’m here til I’m not here Jason
34:10
Willis ed truffle get it right Oh
34:12
truffles truffle like the mushroom is
34:16
better than pie or you’re talking about
34:19
chocolate chocolate I like pie I’m not a
34:21
big like super sweet person Jacob says
34:25
no DAC is basically Canada I you know I
34:31
don’t know what to tell you
34:34
Jacob’s in Minnesota which is also
34:35
basically Canada Matt says Torii Hunter
34:41
good point
34:44
Shane Sweeney says I would say property
34:46
taxes and government intervention in
34:48
private life contribute more to
34:49
homelessness than drugs themselves drugs
34:51
are a symptom not a cause in my opinion
34:53
you know I I don’t I I I think that
34:58
there are definitely people but then you
35:01
could argue that somebody was gonna say
35:03
there are people that get like a pain
35:04
issue and they get put on opioids which
35:09
are cheap and then at some point their
35:11
doctor is told by the government stop
35:13
giving this person opioids and I gotta
35:17
get it illegally whether it’s the same
35:19
opioids or going straight to heroin or
35:21
or whatever but that is kind of an
35:23
intervention in government’s not really
35:25
their business if a person is is taking
35:27
those drugs and it kind of pushes them
35:29
into street drugs um you know I was an
35:32
addict for many years and many well many
35:35
of my years I’m not that old but I I saw
35:40
the other side of that where people who
35:41
otherwise were I think okay really hit
35:45
it hard and and got into harder stuff
35:48
which thankfully I I dabbled in harder
35:51
stuff and I never really got heavy and
35:52
the harder stuff like all the time I can
35:56
see where people were drugs themselves
35:58
but it takes all kinds and and the
36:00
bottom line is that if you didn’t have
36:02
this artificial safety net not from a
36:04
charity that’s willing to help you but
36:06
you got to do better but just yeah you
36:09
exist and you have a social security
36:11
number so here’s your free stuff and
36:14
we’re gonna rob you and everyone else to
36:16
pay for it because that’s what welfare
36:18
is
36:18
they robbed everyone and especially
36:21
disproportionately robbed the the poor
36:25
and and and and middle-income people and
36:27
then give some of the pack to them if
36:29
they decide they really deserve it and
36:30
then the rest goes towards you know war
36:34
the war on drugs
36:36
endless entitlements interest on the on
36:40
the the growing debt you know all sorts
36:44
of earmark boondoggle crap so I mean
36:47
it’s it’s not a good system Chris
36:50
Reynolds attorney at law Chris Reynolds
36:51
attorney in law ladies and gentlemen if
36:53
you live in Florida and you need to go
36:55
to attorney Chris Reynolds attorney law
36:58
Chris Reynolds says this is why kratom
37:01
is such a problem for government tough
37:02
to tax so we get a bunch of attempts to
37:04
ban it it also hurts the opiate pharma
37:07
business drugs in it so non opiates in
37:14
general hurt the opiate pharmacy
37:18
business so weed CBD oil I don’t know as
37:25
much about kratom but you know the
37:27
kratom kava any of these things that are
37:30
not addicting or not as addicting and
37:33
that can alleviate pain and other things
37:36
that drive people the drug cuz I mean a
37:37
lot of it’s emotional stuff a lot of
37:39
addicts they’re just self medicating
37:41
they don’t like how ii tropics make them
37:44
feel or they’re just scared to try them
37:45
but drugs they’ll do because drugs make
37:47
them feel good like now psychotropics
37:49
are more like you take them over the
37:50
course of weeks in it
37:52
slowly moderate your whatever whereas
37:54
drugs it’s like I feel good I took this
37:56
drug and five minutes later ten seconds
37:59
later you know an hour later depending
38:01
on the course of delivery and the type
38:03
of drug I feel great now of course the
38:06
problem is then you don’t feel great
38:07
when it’s not in your system you feel
38:08
even worse and that’s when you end up
38:10
and then chasing the dragon scenario but
38:12
that’s a lot of times it’s an emotional
38:14
issue too but again if personal
38:17
responsibility is in place people and
38:20
their families are less likely to just
38:22
throw their hands up and go well I’ll
38:23
just do whatever I want because you are
38:25
ultimately responsible for your choices
38:30
Timothy et Yasu says social security
38:34
prime example it’s a prime example if
38:38
you’re saying of government getting
38:39
involved in stuff yeah because that’s
38:40
that is a Ponzi scheme
38:42
so Ponzi schemes are illegal if you try
38:44
so this is an interesting thing if you
38:46
tomorrow or today said I’ve created a
38:49
great new retirement plan for every
38:51
American in this country and you
38:52
structured it exactly like Social
38:55
Security but not even making them give
38:57
you money it’s voluntary whether they
38:59
give you the money or not so it’s not
39:00
even mandatory like Social Security is
39:02
but they give you your money and you
39:03
structure the entire system the exact
39:08
way word for word that Social Security
39:10
is set up you give us money you give us
39:12
money you give us money it goes into a
39:14
general fund and we pay it out to people
39:16
once they reach a certain age if you set
39:20
that up you would pretty much
39:24
immediately get in trouble for antitrust
39:28
Ponzi scheme of that stuff because it’s
39:31
a Ponzi scheme
39:31
it is a pyramid scheme it is a scheme
39:34
that only works if the number of people
39:36
giving in is better than the people
39:38
giving that are taking out and because
39:41
as the population ages as the life
39:43
expectancy goes up and as people still
39:46
retire at roughly the same age that they
39:49
used to so people used to retire at
39:52
death people used to work until they
39:56
died and so Social Security was a safety
39:57
net it was marketed as a safety net for
40:00
those people who retired and hadn’t died
40:03
yet so 65 was the the cutoff age and I
40:09
think 66 or 67 was the average life
40:13
expectancy at the time for women and it
40:15
was like 65 for men and and at the time
40:17
the majority of vast majority workers
40:19
were men so this was hey guys when you
40:21
die your wife will be good for those two
40:24
years before she dies that’s pretty much
40:26
what it was and this was coming out of
40:29
the depression which was created by the
40:30
Federal Reserve where people were scared
40:32
to death of not having anything sounded
40:34
good well now people retire in their
40:38
late 60s they’re the retirement age has
40:39
gone up a little the average life
40:42
expectancy right now is somewhere around
40:44
80 and the average baby boomer is
40:47
expected to live to be around 90 that’s
40:49
the average that means it will not be
40:52
uncommon for people to live to be a
40:53
hundred like it will be it will be just
40:58
as common for people to live to be a
41:00
hundred as it will be for them to die at
41:02
80 roughly which means that for a third
41:07
of their lives they will be getting paid
41:13
what is it fourteen hundred bucks a
41:15
month now and then going up with
41:17
cost-of-living adjustments and those
41:18
cost-of-living adjustments aren’t going
41:19
away because baby boomers are the
41:21
biggest voting block with a bullet and
41:24
you see who they vote for I mean it’s
41:27
gonna be between Biden who will
41:29
definitely give Cola increases each year
41:31
and Trump who will definitely give Cola
41:33
increases each year um so and then with
41:35
the with the declining birth rate and
41:40
with a version to you know massive
41:42
immigration which is needed to you know
41:44
fill the cop fill the you know the tax
41:46
it taxed workers something’s got to give
41:50
and that’s how pyramid schemes work
41:52
potato patato says Brian wolf or potato
41:56
potato yes I agree with you
42:02
Shane Sweeney is trying to start a fight
42:04
with Jason lion and I reject it and I
42:06
won’t even get involved in that
42:08
Jacob Jason I have mutual friends
42:10
apparently Jason’s a great guy he’s my
42:13
favorite he and Jacob were my two
42:15
favorite Canadian adjacent people
42:19
mr. merica bearded and truthful news
42:21
comrade yeah you and Shane you know I’ve
42:25
we don’t have beef with Shane anymore
42:27
well I don’t until the next contrived
42:30
fight that we have we need some work for
42:33
drugs set up by businesses listen if
42:36
that were legal if that were legal then
42:43
there would be no unemployment rate if
42:49
they said if Trump said you know get to
42:55
work on building the wall and I will
42:57
give you drugs
42:58
um record time with that thing get bill
43:02
I can’t testify to the quality of it but
43:06
it would get built a thing would be
43:09
erected near the border can’t tell you
43:12
how it would work pretty sure it
43:14
wouldn’t work well but it would happen
43:15
and that’s really what matters to people
43:17
I don’t think people care if the wall is
43:19
gonna work at this point it’s just like
43:21
he said he’d build a he needs to build
43:24
it I don’t think Sara says kratom is an
43:28
opioid is it really is it is it an opium
43:31
derivative I like I said I don’t know
43:32
much about kratom I know cava is I don’t
43:35
know much about cava
43:36
I know it’s money it apparently tastes
43:40
like mud and it makes you calm and my
43:44
neurologist did not recommend it um
43:46
because I have MS and did not recommend
43:49
um me taking a muscle relaxant my
43:52
muscles are already pretty relaxed up
43:55
getting another call that’s two calls
43:59
five seven one area code thank you for
44:02
joining me my fellow Americans who’s
44:04
this so this is your co-host Hey I feel
44:10
bad that I don’t know your number
44:16
I’m thanks to smart I used to be great
44:19
with numbers but thanks to smart phones
44:21
I don’t I don’t I like I know the last
44:24
four digits of my wife’s number and like
44:26
the last four digits of like two or
44:28
three of my closest family members
44:29
everything else I just look up name how
44:31
are you doing yeah that’s where I’m
44:33
doing well you know the family you
44:35
recommended I make is almost done oh wow
44:38
that’s really fun so we can watch you
44:42
eat it is it you had so guys just to
44:45
give you a little background story I eat
44:47
a lot of salmon and I reject any anti
44:50
somatic thoughts you’re having right now
44:53
but yeah matt accepts your anti-semitism
44:57
I reject it which and I’ve said this I
45:00
said this to the the Florida
45:02
libertarians against against Nazism or
45:06
whatever I said that my show our show
45:08
the muddy waters of freedom is
45:09
essentially me just trying to convince
45:11
you to
45:12
stop being a Nazi please and it just
45:15
hasn’t worked and and every week you
45:16
know you know not even a little
45:18
it’s like Jason Nazism is bad anyway so
45:22
you know and you’re like no it’s for kid
45:25
great Hitler real deal Nazism hasn’t
45:29
been tried what’s that who’s that
45:34
no then not to him worked so well in the
45:38
past it works great it hasn’t really
45:40
been tried that was late steed right
45:42
real Nazism yes real Nazism has new year
45:49
that’s it
45:49
that’s a hashtag that I won’t use ever
45:51
um so so anyways so Jason because he
45:55
knows I’m Jewish he asked me about
45:56
salmon which I thought was very brave of
45:58
him as a actual Nazi and um so I gave
46:02
him my recommendation he does not have
46:05
salt proving oh the white Gentile um
46:10
that you know he doesn’t have any any
46:12
apparently any salt but it turned out
46:14
well alright or you haven’t had it yet
46:16
I’m not oh yeah no it’s it’s it is in it
46:19
is in the oven it is almost done I’m
46:21
very excited about it because I get fine
46:23
cinnamon oh you did fine cinnamon that I
46:27
did I had that oh I’d say where I got it
46:31
did you have roof but I have shared
46:33
cinnamon yeah okay I can read
46:37
I’m not Shane Sweeney whoa
46:41
you know I’m you know I I’m increasing
46:44
the peace machine but that’s well um you
46:47
know like Renzo Martinez huh
46:49
um so so did you have rosemary no bail
46:55
oh well that’s you know it’s the that’s
46:58
the rosemary of leafy green herbs sure
47:02
sure so all right cool oh so the real
47:07
reason I was actually calling was
47:09
because of kratom oh good thank God yes
47:12
please tell us about crowd because I
47:14
don’t yeah yeah you’re like okay so no
47:18
it is not an opiate is not a derivative
47:20
of an opiate what kratom does is it
47:25
attached
47:25
itself to the opioid receptors in the
47:28
brain which will give some people a
47:34
sensation that is very similar to
47:37
opiates yeah okay um but it is not it
47:44
doesn’t bind in the same it doesn’t bind
47:46
in the same way so it doesn’t have the
47:48
same addictive principles that in opiate
47:53
does so it has some of the good effects
47:55
or some of the pleasant effects without
47:58
any without the bad addiction part right
48:02
and they say that they say who they say
48:07
that like something tell the salmon I
48:13
did not drop the film and I was getting
48:16
ready to pull the salmon out in
48:17
something else fell well they say that
48:21
less than 1% of people get opiate like
48:27
addicted
48:29
oh what’s that called what’s wrong
48:33
you would think I would know that having
48:37
experienced it yeah right having
48:39
experience having experience you know
48:40
that thing I got a few don’t say it that
48:43
thing that awful thing that horrible
48:45
thing that I name I forget right lesson
48:49
1 lesson 1 percent of all people who use
48:51
kratom will experience any sort of
48:53
severe withdrawal from it other people
48:56
will get and then the number slightly
48:59
higher of people who will experience
49:01
like a runny nose or restless leg
49:06
syndrome or something like that but it
49:08
is a much more manageable symptom that
49:11
you are now dealing with then heroin
49:14
symptoms yeah those are usually where a
49:16
little worse than restless legs um yeah
49:19
so well that’s yeah just just a smidge
49:22
and and I mean the thing is now correct
49:28
me if I’m wrong the is it narcan that
49:32
the one that the drugs met the methadone
49:35
those are all opiates right yeah they
49:38
are like
49:39
they they’re not as strong opiates so
49:42
like suboxone is a mixture of two things
49:45
one is a like a theta is a blocker in
49:47
order to stop the stop the receptors
49:53
from receiving things so that way you
49:54
don’t actually feel the withdrawal
49:57
symptoms the and then the other is like
49:59
a mild opiate and then methadone is I
50:03
believe that it’s just like if normal
50:07
people were to take methadone it would
50:09
probably feel like taking vicodin a
50:11
heroin addict taking it it feels like
50:14
survival right it gets it takes the edge
50:17
off so my point is that you have people
50:19
that got on opiates
50:20
that then had to scale up their opiate
50:23
use and are not having to scale down
50:24
their opiate use using opiates so it’s
50:28
almost like the opiate industry is doing
50:30
pretty damn well from that so when you
50:32
have something like a kratom or weed or
50:36
whatever else people can use to take the
50:38
edge off that isn’t an opiate that’s a
50:40
problem and needs to be treated as one
50:43
I’m in the public policy sphere because
50:47
it’s cutting in the into you know
50:48
business we got a good thing going we’ve
50:52
got a sympathetic public who wants to
50:54
you know stop with the people dying on
50:55
the streets of heroin and if they hear
50:57
there’s other ways to do it besides just
50:59
a different type of an opiate or opiate
51:01
mixture then that’s gonna suck because
51:05
that’s gonna you can’t charge nearly as
51:07
much to the insurance company for
51:09
something you can grow out of cow poop
51:11
as you can for suboxone or what was the
51:17
one that just saris and naloxone there
51:20
whew I never yeah I’ve heard of a few
51:22
but I mean they’re all the same thing
51:23
they’re all opiates that are you know so
51:26
right rich so there’s somebody broken
51:29
you you know Kremlin’s been broken down
51:30
into its chemical compound and there is
51:34
a company out there that made some set
51:37
of kratom mature genes I haven’t had to
51:41
do the speech and well mr. Giants PCOS
51:43
or something like that I can’t remember
51:45
the scientific report there is a company
51:47
out there that got the patent for for
51:52
synthetic
51:52
Adam the one of the board members of
51:56
that company was Scott Gottlieb who then
52:00
became a head of the FDA I knew everyone
52:03
today I know kratom yeah because he then
52:06
tried to ban kratom yeah of course yeah
52:09
yeah I think it has absolutely nothing
52:11
to do with the fact that he has the
52:13
patent this would be like if the guy who
52:15
made k2 or whatever it’s called got on
52:18
the FDA and is like we need to keep weed
52:19
illegal for uh is that what it’s called
52:21
the synthetic weed k2k spice like the
52:25
spice yes spice and ladder up yeah it’s
52:29
like if mr. nice guy here in Florida I
52:31
was like okay we now I’m sorry in charge
52:33
of the FDA make weed illegal forever but
52:37
yeah I have the stuff that actually has
52:40
killed people instead because instead of
52:43
the actual stuff so cool so I am very
52:47
excited to find out how the salmon
52:50
tasted so oh so while you’re doing this
52:52
while you’re doing what Sarah asked
52:54
please excuse that I don’t know the jus
52:56
connection the salmon LOX and cream
52:58
cheese filming it yes basically
53:02
so smoked smoked it–so Jews in my mind
53:08
and maybe this is just a city thing but
53:11
Jews in my mind had to have a very close
53:17
connection to smoked meats especially
53:18
smoked fishes if you hear of kippers and
53:21
you hear of all these different things
53:22
and I don’t know I just I haven’t got
53:25
seen a lot of it what’s that oh that’s
53:27
really that’s really good with it what
53:29
the salmon yeah no that’s really good
53:32
yes yes and you’ve even a baby no I
53:37
don’t even have salt in a through him go
53:39
imagine if had just a little bit of soy
53:41
sauce on it but yeah no so uh so well
53:45
good I’m glad that came out well um so
53:47
yeah so the the so I just to put this in
53:50
perspective earlier today I bought 10
53:53
pounds of hot smoked black pepper salmon
53:57
sockeye wild Alaskan sockeye because it
53:59
was on sale which is kind of the the
54:02
intersection of all Jewish things buying
54:04
smoked fish on sale
54:06
um is gefilte fish smoked no and if it
54:10
was I still wouldn’t eat it
54:11
it is a white fish that is putting a
54:14
brine to scare children I don’t know why
54:18
gefilte fish is a thing I don’t know I’m
54:21
sure it was like that was how it was
54:23
preserved before refrigeration but we’re
54:25
free now like we aren’t you know we
54:29
didn’t just get out of Egypt like we can
54:31
eat refrigerate I don’t know why could
54:34
fill two fish I don’t know why that’s
54:36
allowed that’s something that should be
54:38
I mean we talked about making something
54:39
illegal that’s terrible
54:42
Matt uh before I let you go so and see
54:44
if anyone else calls into it got any uh
54:46
any final things you want to share
54:47
before enjoying your delicious spike
54:50
affiant salmon tune in tomorrow night
54:53
for Hannah Cox on the writer’s block
54:56
Hannah Cox would the Conservatives who
54:57
were concerned with the death penalty
54:59
correct yeah yeah very good yeah be sure
55:02
to check out Matt on the writer’s block
55:05
tomorrow night at we do an eight yeah
55:10
eight o’clock with Hannah Cox
55:12
Conservatives concerned about the death
55:14
penalty thanks Matt for calling it
55:17
popular talk to you later enjoy your
55:19
fish you beautiful man um okay so yes
55:26
gefilte fish is a terrible thing it
55:28
should be illegal and um anyone who
55:31
imports it should be administered the
55:33
death penalty without an appeal my dad
55:36
used to buy that on sale after holidays
55:38
and then we donate it to the canned food
55:39
drives which is kind of like mean I mean
55:43
I’ve never been homeless or had like a
55:47
food security issues like you know I
55:48
don’t know where my next meals coming or
55:50
I’ve never really had that but just now
55:54
it kind of seems cruel like it’s like
55:55
man I could starve or I could eat this
55:57
what appears to be like some kind of
56:01
rotting like suet for those who don’t
56:04
know what it Cavill to fish looks like
56:05
we’re ever in science class and they’d
56:07
have this like thing filled with
56:09
formaldehyde
56:10
I don’t have some kind of like dead
56:12
animal in it and it was there for a long
56:14
time and so we’re just kind of falling
56:15
apart so that’s what could fill two fish
56:17
looks like and I think the brine is made
56:19
of formaldehyde
56:19
that would make sense because you have
56:21
to be intoxicated on something to eat it
56:25
so I would think that that’s probably
56:27
what that why it’s not illegal
56:29
probably the Jewish lobby if my had to
56:32
guess so now the thing with salmon smoke
56:34
especially smoked salmon I’ve just found
56:37
smoked fishes in general seem to have a
56:39
very like Jewish connection LOX gravlax
56:44
Nova LOX all that’s diamond come on yeah
56:47
LOX and then hot smoked salmon I had
56:50
some smoked salmon before I got out here
56:51
so I’m a big salmon eater I’m a
56:53
essentially a pescetarian and I eat a
56:56
lot of fish especially salmon because I
56:59
can get it to taste like chicken I don’t
57:02
know if that’s Jewish but lutefisk you I
57:07
don’t know if that qualifies as smoked
57:10
or it’s similar to gravlax and that I
57:15
think it gets buried at some point but
57:19
if you take anything any dead body and
57:23
cover it in lye and leave it there
57:27
that’s a crime against God in nature and
57:30
I I’ve never tried it I’ve only tried to
57:34
smell it and that was enough for me to
57:36
know that Scandinavians are there’s
57:40
something wrong something’s wrong there
57:47
that’s why Russia wasn’t able to
57:49
successfully invade Finland because they
57:55
were scared of a people who would eat
57:57
that lutefisk is preserved in lye yeah
58:01
because that’s what you do with food
58:04
let’s put it in lye so again we have to
58:10
filter fish which I am like no bad stop
58:13
um but smoked smoked fishes smoked
58:21
smoked fish I have there’s actually for
58:24
those who want to support moneyed waters
58:27
media there’s a $600 Bluetooth
58:32
smoker well bluetooth you can it’s a
58:35
smart smoker smoke up to I think thirty
58:38
pounds of meat and fish at a time 600
58:42
bucks it’s a deal it’s on Amazon that
58:45
would really help the moneyed waters
58:46
family especially me if any of you all
58:50
want to buy that my birthday is next
58:51
month um so just I’m just just putting
58:57
that out there and you have to soak it
58:59
multiple times to make it safe to eat
59:01
the lutefisk diptych tube wash the lye
59:04
out because it’s toxic and you die from
59:06
eating it but let’s wash it like six
59:08
times and then it’s fine to eat what a
59:12
great thing to eat what I’m gonna serve
59:14
this to my children YUM eat up it
59:19
doesn’t have much lie in it anymore kids
59:21
and it tastes terrible I don’t know what
59:24
it tastes like I know what it smells
59:25
like and I know from doing uh wine
59:29
tastings that your your taste and smell
59:34
are almost inextricably linked so if it
59:39
smells like that your brains not gonna
59:43
let it taste too good that’s what I know
59:47
about that so the other thing that we
59:52
didn’t really get to talk about much on
59:54
the show last night and I’m sure Jason
59:57
will cover this way better than I could
59:59
let me tell you something about Jason
60:00
Lyon the up-and-comer of muddy waters
60:07
media he has a show on Monday and
60:09
Friday’s called mr. America the bearded
60:12
truth he is like if I if you ever want
60:17
to know my opinion on something but you
60:20
just don’t want to deal with like my
60:22
smug dry sarcasm or my disarmingly good
60:29
looks almost pretty looks that I have
60:32
and and and you find me to be too much
60:35
then um
60:37
tune in to Jason Lyon who’s also an
60:39
attractive man I’m not sure I call him a
60:41
pretty man whereas I’m whereas I’m
60:44
pretty and it’s unsettling to some
60:46
people
60:46
and I get it I get it I get it I look in
60:48
the mirror and I’m like this is a bit
60:50
much so I get that so if this is too
60:55
much
60:55
if this aesthetic and these the the the
60:59
the overconfident smugness that comes
61:01
with it as would be expected with
61:05
someone who looks like this it’s too
61:07
much for you then tuned into a adjacent
61:09
lion mr. America the be tuned in anyway
61:12
but if but especially if you just can’t
61:14
take me definitely tune into Jason lion
61:16
mr. America the bearded truth because
61:18
he’s pretty much gives my opinion but
61:20
just better it’s like my show except
61:22
better in terms of like his delivery and
61:26
his his his lack of an eagerness to
61:30
offend and alienate people as I do I
61:34
forgot what I was sitting going with
61:36
that now that says wrong line I don’t
61:44
know what’s going on we may or may not
61:45
be online or offline I don’t know
61:48
whether we were online or offline but if
61:50
we’re online and welcome to the show I
61:52
was just trying to remember what I was
61:54
talking about would you yes are we
61:56
connected again are we connected
62:18
do we downline are we online I don’t
62:26
know if we’re online we may or may not
62:30
be online if I’m online
62:32
I think I’m online it says it says I’m
62:34
online it says I’m online I don’t know
62:40
if I yet says you’re back and it’s gone
62:42
now my back oh for God’s sake
62:47
I don’t know if I’m back or not I don’t
62:52
know how I’m back or not I says I might
62:57
be back I don’t know if I’m back says
63:02
I’m back says I’m back I think it’s yeah
63:11
I’m back I’m back hey hey everybody I’m
63:17
back um I see you I see you thank you so
63:22
much um so and I’m getting a call not
63:26
only my back I’m getting a call from I
63:29
think Matt again hi is this Matt again
63:33
this is he hung up this is good yeah I’m
63:39
back alright so um Jason Lyon has a
63:45
great show
63:46
and I don’t know what I was saying about
63:48
that oh he’s probably gonna talk about
63:52
this on Friday I don’t know if Matt will
63:55
have a chance to bring it up because
63:56
he’s talking with his guests Hannah
63:57
talks specifically about the death
63:59
penalty but I’ll bring it up this Trump
64:04
versus China tariff situation so the
64:10
stock market’s not been doing well this
64:12
week because it looks like it was
64:14
looking like the Trump administration
64:17
and the I should know this Chinese
64:21
administration we’re working out a trade
64:23
deal that was going to include a net
64:27
reduction of tariffs on both side and no
64:29
new terror
64:30
apparently it appears that China the
64:34
Chinese government reneged on some of
64:36
their promises of not introducing or
64:40
continuing tariffs and so the Trump
64:44
administration has responded by they’re
64:47
gonna be starting Friday they plan to
64:50
increase tariffs on quite a few things
64:53
from 10 percent to 25 percent and China
64:57
is was already scheduled to come I guess
64:59
I think this week to the White House to
65:01
discuss this the hope obviously is that
65:04
they work something out so that we won’t
65:06
won’t end up in this escalation of a
65:08
trade war so the common the common
65:15
narrative about tariffs the statist a
65:18
narrative about tariffs is that when
65:21
other countries their governments issue
65:24
tariffs on our products it hurts
65:28
our workers and the only thing that we
65:33
can do in retaliation is to pass our own
65:39
tariffs to hurt them as a negotiation
65:43
tactic to either get Americans to just
65:45
and this is where the groups diverge one
65:47
group says we want tariffs to remain
65:49
stuck i high so that people Americans
65:51
will buy American because it’ll be so
65:53
expensive to buy not American or there’s
65:58
another group who says no we want no
65:59
tariffs ideally or very few tariffs but
66:02
if they’re gonna have tariffs we need to
66:04
have tariffs and and that will you know
66:07
once those tariffs what if they if
66:09
they’re if they agree to get rid of
66:11
their tariffs then we’ll get rid of ours
66:13
as well here’s the problem with that
66:16
tariffs are a tax tariffs are attacks
66:22
that are ultimately and all taxes are
66:24
paid by the consumer so when when the
66:26
left for example will say well we’re not
66:28
raising taxes on people we just want to
66:30
raise them on these big corporations who
66:33
buys stuff from the big corporations all
66:36
of us that tax is added to it so it’s a
66:40
tax that all taxes are paid by the
66:42
consumer so a tariff is
66:44
for by the consumer well who is the
66:45
consumer in this situation us if China
66:52
is adding tariffs to American products
66:55
the Chinese consumer suffers as a result
66:58
of that they have to pay more for
67:00
American products or they have to end up
67:03
then paying you know more for a Chinese
67:06
product because it’s at least a little
67:07
bit less than the American product once
67:10
the tariff has been added if the issue
67:14
here is that American products are more
67:16
expensive than products that have to be
67:19
shipped here from thousands of miles
67:21
away that is a problem
67:23
with probably with American taxes
67:27
American regulations and other things
67:29
that make American products more
67:33
expensive the answer is to get rid of
67:36
those things so American products are
67:39
cheaper okay the answer is not to rate
67:43
introduce tariffs on things that are
67:45
cheaper it introduced taxes on things
67:47
that are cheaper so that you either not
67:49
have to pay more for that thing that’s
67:51
from somewhere else or pay more than you
67:54
were paying for the American thing so
67:56
you know if if without the tariffs the
67:59
foreign thing cost you this much and the
68:00
American thing cost you this much and
68:01
the tariff makes the foreign thing cost
68:03
this much you’re not saving money you’re
68:05
losing either way you’re getting screwed
68:07
because you’re having to pay more than
68:09
you were paying because taxes are theft
68:12
and they caught make things cost more
68:13
I would hope with a primarily
68:16
libertarian and conservative audience I
68:17
would have to say this so these
68:21
negotiations are sort of like two people
68:25
sitting across from each other
68:27
threatening to hit themselves if the
68:30
other one doesn’t stop hitting themself
68:31
if you don’t stop hitting yourself I’m
68:34
going to hit myself even harder until
68:35
you stop how about we just stop hitting
68:38
ourselves if China wants to make Goods
68:42
artificially expensive for their
68:46
consumers that hurts their consumers it
68:50
doesn’t really help because here’s the
68:53
reality if you make things too expensive
68:57
eventually the big suppliers go where
68:59
stuff’s cheaper so for example with
69:01
steel imagine you own a air-conditioning
69:06
company you have to use a lot of Steel
69:09
now you’ve been buying steel from Canada
69:12
China Mexico wherever because it’s
69:14
cheaper so they introduced steel the US
69:19
government introduces steel tariffs so
69:22
now you either have to buy American
69:27
steel which is more expensive than the
69:29
steel you were buying which means you
69:31
now have to increase the price of your
69:32
product making it less competitive with
69:34
foreign products because I thought the
69:36
whole idea was we were being more
69:37
competitive but it makes you less
69:38
competitive either way whether you’re
69:43
buying American steel or foreign steel
69:45
you’re now paying more than you used to
69:46
pay well your your a large company you
69:52
can just go where the Steel’s still
69:53
cheaper and so you make that initial
69:56
investment to move your factory to China
69:58
to Canada to Mexico or the government
70:02
says no no don’t go anywhere we’ll put
70:04
tariffs on those foreign air
70:06
conditioners to make your air
70:09
conditioners cheaper well now that
70:13
problem just moves on to some other
70:14
supplier that needs air conditioners for
70:16
their business and the worse you do you
70:18
make it the more it eventually gets down
70:20
to small businesses that can’t move and
70:22
they can’t compete with foreigners so
70:25
they just go out of business so this
70:28
doesn’t help American businesses any
70:30
more than any other tax does and it
70:31
definitely doesn’t help American
70:32
consumers any more than any other tax
70:34
does if foreign countries want to jump
70:36
off a bridge we don’t have to join them
70:39
people say oh we got to deal with this
70:41
trade in balance there’s a trade in
70:43
balance we’re buying more stuff from
70:45
China than China’s buy it from us and
70:47
it’s a travesty and it’s an imbalance
70:50
there is no such thing as a trade in
70:52
balance let me give you a scenario you
70:57
go to Walmart and you go up to the
71:01
Walmart greeter and the Walmart greeter
71:02
says hey welcome to Walmart you got I
71:04
want to hear any of that garbage from
71:06
you I got you I got your number I know
71:08
what’s going on here
71:10
I’m buying way more stuff from you than
71:12
you’re buying from me we have a trade
71:14
imbalance that’s just through the roof
71:16
it’s like $30,000 last year I bought
71:18
stuff from you
71:19
Walmart you didn’t buy a damn thing for
71:21
me not even a single damn thing our
71:23
trade imbalance is through the roof if
71:25
you don’t stop this I’m gonna start
71:27
taxing myself every time I buy anything
71:29
from you because I’m negotiating from a
71:32
position of strength and Walmart goes if
71:39
you want to tax yourself you can but you
71:43
don’t have anything I want to buy or
71:44
Walmart what do you have to buy what do
71:47
you have to sell well it doesn’t matter
71:48
now you’re probably thinking well that’s
71:52
not a trade imbalance because I gave
71:54
them money and they gave me stuff yeah
71:59
we’re not giving China money and they’re
72:02
giving us less money we’re buying stuff
72:05
from Chinese companies there was a there
72:09
was no imbalance there we voluntarily
72:11
chose to buy this thing and then China
72:16
and then we’ve and China agreed that we
72:18
would give them that amount some amount
72:20
of money for that that isn’t even trade
72:23
so trade imbalance is right up there
72:25
with all the other status buds buzzwords
72:29
like you know common sense gun control
72:31
and and I don’t know merit-based
72:37
immigration and and I have so many of
72:41
them usually that I use fairness in
72:44
media and with some other ones combating
72:48
inequality these are all various
72:53
buzzwords that are used by the
72:55
government to convince you that someone
72:57
is harming you other than the government
72:59
and that the answer is to have the
73:01
government harm you more tariffs are a
73:04
perfect example of that there are people
73:05
that are super happy that Trump is going
73:09
to make their cost of living more
73:10
expensive in some kind of negotiation to
73:13
tell China to stop making stuff more
73:16
expensive for their consumers why if we
73:22
want to compete
73:25
if we if we want our products to compete
73:28
with Chinese products remove the
73:30
regulations taxes and various other fees
73:33
and other things that licensing
73:35
licensing various other things that
73:37
government puts in place to raise the
73:39
bar so that it makes it harder for new
73:41
startups to come in and and also for
73:43
both the new startups and the existing
73:46
companies it just makes it more
73:47
expensive the big companies like that
73:49
I’m gonna get it I’m ranting now the big
73:51
companies love that they love stuff
73:54
being made harder and more expensive
73:56
because they’re already established
74:00
their competitors are not already
74:02
established Walmart has no problem look
74:05
at Facebook right now basically all but
74:07
you know they’re doing the Brer Rabbit
74:09
with the briar patch oh please don’t
74:11
regulate me they want to be regulated
74:13
they want to be turned into it utility
74:14
they want to be etched in government
74:16
stone forever and ever so that they
74:19
never have to worry about serious
74:21
competition replacing them and that’s
74:25
what these other big companies do
74:27
remember it was all the big you know we
74:29
were told we need net neutrality because
74:31
these bigwig companies I’m gonna run all
74:34
over us they’re gonna charge us if we
74:36
want if we want anything other than
74:37
Netflix and and you know Hulu and
74:41
Facebook weird if I pay millions of
74:43
dollars they’re gonna screw us because
74:45
that’ll definitely be a good business
74:46
model for them and yet it was all the
74:49
big media companies internet service
74:53
providers cable utilities all of them
74:56
were saying yeah we need net neutrality
75:00
to make sure we don’t do that they
75:03
wanted net neutrality
75:05
to prevent competition to enshrine
75:09
themselves as the existing competitors
75:11
and to basically allow them to create
75:15
these quasi cartels where they you know
75:18
where this is our territory and that’s
75:20
your territory so that prices go through
75:21
the roof and there’s little competition
75:23
and there’s not reigning real increase
75:25
in inequality of the product because
75:29
that’s what big businesses do and we’re
75:33
so convinced that Donald Trump or Obama
75:35
or Bush or whoever
75:38
is fighting for the common man with
75:41
these tariffs he’s making sure that the
75:42
American worker gets back on their feet
75:45
what he’s really doing is making sure
75:48
that a handful of entrenched special
75:51
interests driven companies rent seekers
75:55
companies that would not exist or at
75:57
least not exist as big as they are
75:58
without government interference can
76:02
continue to do this with little to no
76:06
competition at the expense of everyone
76:09
else especially you as the lower to
76:12
middle-income American consumer so
76:16
that’s what’s happening with the tariffs
76:19
and the China thing I don’t know like
76:23
Yao Ming Jacob Blue Bell says the oming
76:28
Yamin has a height disparity with me is
76:32
I think the I think that not sure how
76:38
yelling but yes let me see uh let me see
76:43
oh good the chat thing is doubled your
76:47
back speed talk that’s pretty much what
76:49
I’m doing don’t jinx it yeah oh my god
76:51
you aren’t D platform thank God and
76:54
cross your fingers throw their tea into
76:56
the harbor green tea yes how many
77:00
American products do the Chinese consume
77:02
in raw numbers i I don’t I don’t know
77:07
Trump just doesn’t want to admit the
77:09
Chinese have them by the balls I don’t
77:11
really know like I think that they’re
77:16
gonna end up having I think this is a
77:17
lot of palace intrigue
77:18
first of all Trump thrives on conflict
77:22
which is counterintuitive because most
77:25
most politicians are about they want
77:27
controlled conflict in specific
77:28
situations where they control all that
77:30
all the narratives and can present
77:32
themselves as a fighter but everywhere
77:33
else they want political expediency and
77:35
Trump seems to look for things where
77:38
politicians would usually look for
77:40
political expediency and instead just
77:42
make a massive culture war out of it he
77:46
seems to thrive in that kind of conflict
77:49
he’s very much as Jeb Bush called him
77:52
Jeb JEB please clap he called him the
77:55
chaos candidate and there’s some truth
77:57
to that so I don’t even know where to go
78:00
with that Brian Wolfe says China is
78:01
buying more services from us correct and
78:03
we buy more materials from them how is
78:05
that wrong I don’t know the breakdown
78:07
and and this is where I get out of the
78:09
collective stuff because we say China
78:10
and US consumers buy from providers and
78:14
consumers buy from providers and and and
78:17
vice versa I don’t know what the
78:18
breakdowns are I just know that there is
78:20
no real such thing as a trade trade
78:22
deficit unless someone got robbed that’s
78:24
a trade deficit if I come up to you and
78:26
say give me your damn money we have a
78:29
trade deficit with the federal
78:30
government and state governments and
78:32
city governments we have a trade deficit
78:33
with government at large they take our
78:35
money and don’t give us much that’s a
78:38
trade deficit that is a trade that is
78:40
unequal and the reason it’s unequal it’s
78:43
because it’s coerced you have to do it
78:45
if you don’t do it you’re gonna get in
78:47
trouble if you get in enough trouble you
78:49
go to jail if you fight against that
78:51
they will kill you there are IRS agents
78:53
who are like trained for fighting like
78:57
they’re like FBI or whatever to you know
78:59
if they have to take if they have to
79:01
take you down they will so just pay it
79:04
that’s a trade imbalance China has never
79:07
forced us to buy anything the Chinese
79:09
government or any Chinese providers know
79:11
any Mexican or Canadian or whatever
79:12
providers have ever forced us to buy a
79:14
single thing from any of them we
79:16
willingly purchased these things that’s
79:19
even trade I give you this much money
79:22
and you give me the thing that I wanted
79:24
so um let’s see tariffs solved trade
79:30
disputes the way a wall the same way a
79:32
wall fixes immigration issues did yes
79:34
Shane that’s yes the trade and the trade
79:41
arguments trade protectionism arguments
79:42
are the immigration to be applied the
79:45
things instead of people it’s the same
79:48
arguments but one is things and one is
79:50
people it’s a little bit more nuanced
79:51
because when this because it’s people
79:52
you’re now talking about stuff like
79:54
though our culture and and you know
79:56
crime and stuff like that but it all
79:57
boils down to the same thing I am scared
80:00
of competition
80:04
and so I want policies enacted to
80:09
violate my natural rights in their
80:11
natural rights harming all of us because
80:14
that at least gives me the feeling of
80:17
being protected but that’s the Patriot
80:19
Act or whatever I mean that’s that’s
80:20
every government thing boils down to
80:22
that Jeff Jeff peeka peeka peeka chick I
80:27
hope I said your name right Petr Cech
80:29
gave me the claps give me the claps
80:32
thank you so much Andrew Richard Ito
80:35
says finally someone understands this
80:38
whole misconception it’s you know and
80:40
and I get it you guys I get the whole
80:42
like if they if they’re if I have to
80:49
sell something for five hundred dollars
80:50
and they’re able to sell it for $300
80:53
that’s just not right and I’m an
80:54
American and you know we should be
80:56
buying American and something has to be
80:58
done and I I get it I get that
81:03
inclination when you break it down and
81:06
and and and examine how what’s it gonna
81:09
actually work what you’re really saying
81:11
is I want everything to be more
81:12
expensive which will ultimately harm me
81:14
because I also buy stuff from them and
81:16
so if you really distill it down into
81:18
what the argument is it makes the whole
81:20
thing sound like what it really is which
81:23
is a you know economically ill informed
81:27
and frightened people being taken
81:30
advantage of by people who do know how
81:32
it’s gonna work out and are perfectly
81:34
fine with the outcome because they’ve
81:35
positioned and leveraged themselves to
81:37
benefit from everyone else doing poorly
81:42
Oh fucker chick chick car chick I’m
81:51
probably still doing it wrong I’m sorry
81:52
I’m trying my best Jeff Shane the
81:55
problem with China and Russia is that
81:56
they’re capitalizing where the u.s.
81:57
screws up Venezuela in North Korea the
81:59
EU
82:00
Syria Iran etc Trump and his
82:03
predecessors have laid the groundwork
82:04
this is what so exactly correct and it’s
82:07
nothing special about the u.s. being
82:09
stupid this is what Empire costs name an
82:15
empire that doesn’t end up just getting
82:17
torn down
82:18
by almost everyone else and everyone
82:21
else applauding after it happens even if
82:24
it leads to negative consequences
82:25
because this is what happens uh Picard
82:30
chick Picard chick emphasis on second
82:33
Picard chick I’m trying um this is what
82:35
happens with Empire when you this is why
82:39
person when people say well you know if
82:41
we’re not out there doing this you know
82:42
us Millie you know people will tell me I
82:44
you know I’m against this war on
82:45
terrorism it’s that’s not right what’s
82:47
going on but I’ll tell you what it
82:48
scares me the vacuum of power if we
82:51
leave the Middle East if we because we
82:55
have a say we’re doing it it’s not being
82:57
done in our names and our loved ones
83:00
being sent there to do it we’re doing it
83:02
but that the whole collective thing with
83:04
that but anyway if we all of us together
83:06
in unison holding hands if we leave the
83:09
Middle East well then the Chinese and
83:12
the Russians are gonna have it and now
83:14
what now the Chinese and Russians are
83:17
going to deal with massive neverending
83:20
debt and having to either raise taxes or
83:26
cut Social Services or both just to pay
83:31
the debt or just like we’re doing create
83:35
endless reams of money that everyone
83:37
knows is worthless and you know pretend
83:41
that it’s still worth something to spend
83:43
on endless spending and creating a
83:46
massive debt bubble and speculation
83:49
bubble in the process and people
83:52
increasingly hating them not just their
83:54
government but them because as a you
83:58
know even quasi democratic system you’re
84:02
somewhat complicit you voted for not so
84:05
much in China but they they vote for
84:06
their cell leaders who would then vote
84:08
for whatever so it’s it’s it’s not
84:11
democracy but it’s they have some some
84:17
ish say but it’s gonna fall back on them
84:22
what are the benefits I think yeah
84:25
Primus prime access to to oil
84:32
there’s oil elsewhere so that this is an
84:34
interesting thing I learned in the early
84:36
2000 when that whole oil bubble was
84:38
happening if someone can get all their
84:40
oil here that frees up oil here because
84:45
there’s not some massive expansion in
84:46
the use of oil their use of oil is still
84:48
roughly going up at the same rate that
84:50
it was before and ours has been pretty
84:52
much level now this is at a time we’re
84:55
worried about oil the u.s. is a net
84:58
exporter of oil the hell do we need this
85:01
oil so much for now I get it
85:03
that sounds very nationalistic well we
85:06
have our own oil we don’t need these
85:07
other people’s oil but that’s not how
85:09
the global market for something works if
85:12
people’s needs are being met in a
85:15
relatively easy way it doesn’t matter if
85:19
we’re buying oil from Iran or if the EU
85:21
is brien oil from Iran which frees up
85:23
oil over here oils oils oil for the most
85:27
part so it’s not it isn’t you know wait
85:32
it’s not it’s we don’t need to kill all
85:38
these people and make ourselves less
85:40
safe and make ourselves less prosperous
85:42
for oil like it’s it’s not that is not a
85:45
prime need when there’s enough of it to
85:48
go around and especially at the time
85:50
when technology is is making us slowly
85:53
but with each year just slightly less
85:54
even dependent on fossil fuels so I you
85:58
know if they take the oil they take the
86:01
oil and they’ll get every other terrible
86:06
thing that comes with it like the world
86:08
hating them the world hated the USSR
86:11
they also hated America but they hated
86:14
the USSR um Cera system what is our damn
86:18
interest in Venezuela oil but but here’s
86:21
the problem what is our interest you’re
86:23
Sara’s in mind none it’s Exxon Mobil’s
86:27
interest its Chevron Texaco BP whatever
86:31
it’s it’s it is vested large corporate
86:35
interests and this is where the left
86:36
gets it right and then they just kind of
86:37
fall off the map there is little
86:42
daylight between
86:45
government and in a quasi fascist
86:50
corporis corporatist mixed economy I’ll
86:55
call a mixed economy people get mad when
86:57
they say fascist because they think I’m
86:58
comparing Trump to Hitler or what Adam
87:00
not any more than I was comparing Obama
87:02
to Hitler the economic plank of American
87:05
capitalism is corporatism which is the
87:09
economic plank of the fascist system so
87:12
I’m using fascist just talking about
87:14
that the economic plank of it but I’ll
87:16
say corporatist or mixed economy because
87:18
that gets people less upset then saying
87:21
fascist um meanwhile you know be mean to
87:25
a cop and then get back to me on whether
87:27
it’s fascist or not but anyway so the
87:31
the you know in a corporate in a
87:33
corporatist
87:34
faux capitalist structure like ours the
87:38
one we live under there’s almost no
87:40
daylight between government and big big
87:45
big business I don’t mean big business
87:47
like oh hey Jim’s got a few stores he’s
87:49
doing really well I mean big
87:51
I mean Walmart Apple Chevron I keep
87:54
saying Chevron I don’t know if they’re
87:56
the Texan you know – ExxonMobil these
87:58
huge oil companies these huge
88:00
agricultural companies these huge
88:03
insurance companies all of these massive
88:07
companies who have lobbyists who tell
88:10
politicians we will basically bankroll
88:13
your campaign and keep you in office
88:16
forever
88:16
if you use the levers of power to keep
88:19
us in in control in our various sectors
88:21
so what’s our interest amazon’s
88:25
definitely one – the thing with Amazon
88:26
is they’re providing such a value to the
88:28
consumer that it’s hard to see what
88:29
they’re doing but they are absolutely
88:30
entrenching themselves as a as a
88:33
permanent player they get incredibly
88:36
favorable rates with the post office
88:39
that none of us could get there also
88:40
bulk users but it’s not even a rate
88:42
that’s available to anyone else um so
88:46
what’s our interest
88:47
yours and mine Sarah yours in mind Jacob
88:50
anyone watching this none
88:53
our interest is in we don’t want to be
88:58
robbed to pay
88:59
to invade another country and
89:00
destabilize it even worse than it is now
89:02
people say things couldn’t possibly get
89:04
worse in Venezuela look at Syria it can
89:07
get worse in Venezuela one of my
89:09
Facebook friends Conor Jane nepo nepo
89:12
said he said that the situation in
89:17
Venezuela can be summed up in six words
89:18
and I believe the six words were Oh God
89:23
it was some it was something like
89:25
socialism sucks intervention will make
89:27
it worse or something like that and
89:29
that’s exactly the case Venezuela is
89:31
this in the situation they are because
89:32
socialism sucks
89:33
and they’ve as they’ve attempted to
89:35
implement real socialism it has done
89:38
what it always does price controls and
89:40
all that crap has led to everything that
89:41
any basic Austrian economist would say
89:45
would happen so it’s happened the
89:48
American government getting involved is
89:49
how it goes from Venezuela to Syria or
89:52
Somalia or something like that so no I
89:55
definitely I definitely would not
89:58
support us getting involved with that
90:03
Sarah Branyan on side note did you see
90:05
the whole thing about Baltimore getting
90:06
hacked they are asking for ransom paid
90:08
and crypto cryptocurrency Baltimore
90:11
can’t pay for that crap they can’t even
90:12
fix heat in their schools it’s a trade
90:13
deficit they are being robbed I did not
90:15
hear of this I know that the mayor
90:17
either has resigned or is in the process
90:19
of being resigned of resigning after she
90:22
they raided her house because she was
90:26
faking her book sales or something like
90:28
that she was pretending she was sick for
90:30
two months Baltimore so my parents fled
90:32
Baltimore 1988 and I have a lot of loved
90:38
ones that still live in Baltimore but I
90:39
am glad we left because it does not
90:42
sound like things are going well there
90:43
I’m not gonna lie it sounds like things
90:45
are going like what I would say that
90:48
like to my dad when I was a little kid
90:51
and I’d say well why did we move from
90:52
Baltimore and they go well cuz Myrtle
90:53
Beach is beautiful in it the weather is
90:55
nice all year long and traffic’s better
90:57
and then like when I got older my dad’s
90:59
like Baltimore was being ruined they
91:00
were destroying everything and so um I
91:02
took it somewhat with a grain of salt
91:04
but turns out I think he was right on
91:06
that one so III don’t know but how
91:12
yeah how do you hack a city Sara says it
91:16
makes me sad to see them eat zoo animals
91:18
so that is my interest but the point was
91:19
yes oil like that is the problem with
91:21
pulling out of the Middle East China and
91:22
Russia take the oil and damn it the
91:24
petrodollar shifts but look at what
91:27
comes with the petro dollar
91:28
we’re not benefiting from that there are
91:32
very large vested multinational
91:37
corporations that benefit from it we are
91:40
getting harmed from it the petro dollar
91:42
is built on massive speculation and in
91:45
global military dominance how is that
91:48
helping us with massive inflation ratios
91:51
our money being a joke the the debt that
91:57
is going to be paid at this point by our
91:58
great-grandchildren just continuing to
92:00
skyrocket with no end in sight and us
92:03
being told that if we want to $10
92:07
increase in our social security or we
92:09
don’t we want to be taxed less or we
92:11
want Social Security to perform that
92:12
we’re the greedy ones not them who
92:16
created this whole mess of a system but
92:17
us so no that doesn’t help us it doesn’t
92:21
help us yes I have an interest in that
92:24
seeing what the Venezuelan people are
92:26
going through is absolutely devastating
92:27
which is why when I hear New Zealand or
92:32
any of these countries that gun control
92:34
over here that gun control gun
92:36
controlled the logical conclusion of gun
92:38
control is the Venezuelan police can run
92:40
you over casually just for protesting
92:43
because there’s not a damn thing you can
92:44
do to stop them effectively other than
92:47
like making bombs and stuff like that
92:49
but for the average Venezuelan citizen
92:52
they have no way to effectively fight
92:54
back and that’s what you know we talk
92:57
about Oh self-defense from criminals and
93:00
hunting and things like those are all
93:01
important things that is not the primary
93:03
role for the right to keep and bear arms
93:05
and and whether you like the
93:07
Constitution or not I’m not a huge fan I
93:09
have much bigger fan of the Articles of
93:11
Confederation or just nothing but the
93:16
right to keep and bear arms is to the
93:20
right the ability to decentralize the
93:23
ability to effectively use violence and
93:25
if that ability
93:26
essentially put into a you know
93:30
essentially if the ability to
93:32
effectively project violence is
93:34
centralized into a government I don’t
93:36
care how you know happy-go-lucky and
93:39
kind and sweet that government is at
93:42
some point it can turn probably will
93:44
turn at the worst time when people are
93:47
doing poorly and you’re gonna get what
93:51
comes from that so so that that is that
93:53
this is you know to the people that are
93:54
applauding like oh thank God we can’t
93:57
have own weapons that fire that that can
94:00
hold more than ten rounds gonna need
94:04
more than that to take down a you know a
94:06
Mine Resistant armored personnel carrier
94:09
so so probably gonna start wrapping
94:15
things up is anyone else getting a ton
94:17
of stream dropouts I I don’t know what
94:20
to tell you guys I I’m not getting any
94:22
any notifications about it but it might
94:27
be happening I’m sorry if it is this is
94:29
the fun of using a bunch of free
94:31
services is that sometimes it doesn’t
94:33
work that well so we will have to it
94:36
looks like it’s still alive to me so
94:38
hopefully hopefully not
94:42
Shane Sweeney says for the u.s. to lose
94:46
all credibility and trading power post
94:48
hegemony well or hegemony however you
94:51
say that but again it’s the US
94:54
government like if you think of a US
94:59
that isn’t I think there’s so many
95:02
things if the u.s. pulled out of NATO
95:06
European countries who right now are
95:09
thumbing their noses oh you know rhihub
95:12
socialized health care now they have to
95:15
pay for the room defense I’m gonna have
95:18
socialized health care anymore or their
95:19
taxes are gonna be so high that they
95:21
effectively don’t own anything we are
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subsidizing and this includes Israel we
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are subsidizing liberal social
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democracies progressive social
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democracies to have endless
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cradle-to-grave welfare
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by subsidizing the defense that we all
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think that they need why let them do it
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let them pay for they want socialized
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everything good pay for it and you’ll
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need to pay for your military because
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not going to sit there in and and in and
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and and and now you’re gonna have to
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acknowledge that some of these other
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world powers are actual threats and all
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the stuff that’s gonna come from that so
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no I am apt I totally welcome a world in
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which Russia and China are the main
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antagonists to the world and the u.s. is
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just sitting back trading with people
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and making money on top of money I win
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but start that now you know the the you
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know the was it Ron Paul said more with
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no one trade and peace with everyone or
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however I’ve no I know I just butchered
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that um but um that’s me all day long I
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I have no interest in you know the lives
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and well-being and financial future of
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my selves and every single person I care
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about being leveraged for powerful
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multinational companies who have you
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know rent-seeking lobbyists in
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government I have no interest in that so
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on that cheery note I think I’m gonna
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wrap things up because you guys don’t
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seem to have any more questions and I
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think I’ve covered way more than I
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thought I was I’ve been up here almost
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I’ll say it one more thing
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FY Baltimore had some municipal systems
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hacked with ransomware I’m reading that
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people were having issues paying
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property debts because they can access
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any files regarding people specific
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debts several Department email systems
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aren’t working that sounds that sounds
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great
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that wasn’t fun i but like i said i have
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a lot of loved ones living in baltimore
97:32
so i don’t want to crow too loudly about
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that but I mean Baltimore has been on
97:35
that slope there’s another place again
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I’m a gun
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Baltimore’s been on that you can’t have
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a gun and yet you know some of the
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highest gun violence rates on earth not
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to mention the police that you know like
97:45
the plants stuff on people any type of
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gun control is unconstitutional the
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reason for the Second Amendment is to
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protect ourselves from our own
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government meaning the citizens at large
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able to have the same weapons as a
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government the government’s military I’m
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not listen Andrew I’m not for those who
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don’t know I’m an intrical capitalist or
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an orchid pan or kiss right hand or kiss
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whatever you want to call me I’m not a
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huge fan of the Constitution because I
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think if you just if you get away from
98:08
the Bill of Rights and you look at like
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the first seven articles it is largely
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it’s largely an explanation of how
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government can rob us kidnap us and and
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kill us as they see fit
98:20
just the taxation clause in the habeas
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corpus clause are enough to tell me that
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the anti-federalists were correct and
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that we should have stuck if we had to
98:27
stick with anything to the Articles of
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Confederation which actually did limit
98:31
government by not allowing them to tax
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us anyway that said the spirit behind
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the second Amendment or the abstence of
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the you know what we are told is the
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extensible purpose behind the Second
98:48
Amendment yes it is not about it is not
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about self-protection from criminals
98:55
although that’s again that’s an
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important thing
98:57
it’s not about target shooting it’s not
98:59
about hunting it is about keeping the
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reality of power in check that the more
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power is centralized the more the
99:08
ability to project violence is
99:10
centralized the worse that’s gonna be
99:12
okay
99:14
you and a neighbor having a beef and you
99:17
have an Apache helicopter and you know
99:21
they’ve got a Taser at the end of the
99:23
day you know that you can run over that
99:25
person and so that person is at the
99:26
mercy of your goodwill if you have any
99:28
if you guys are roughly equally armed
99:32
that’s not even gonna come up because
99:34
either of you you you want to go there
99:36
you both how you your lives as normal
99:37
human beings and want to just go about
99:39
your life so yes that’s you know people
99:44
we can argue about unconstitutional
99:46
constitutional I don’t really get into
99:48
that stuff because that’s a legalism
99:49
argument but got any type of gun
99:51
controls a violation of your natural
99:53
right to protect yourself from any and
99:55
all threats including centralized ones
99:57
who give themselves badges and rights on
99:58
cheated right on sheets of paper that
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they’re allowed to do it still wrong so
100:04
so guys I think I’ve covered everything
100:06
I think I’m gonna get out here get out
100:08
of here when my back is still feeling
100:10
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100:14
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102:41
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102:44
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102:45
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102:54
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Friday nights have a great weekend this
103:00
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103:01
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103:03
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103:07
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103:09
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103:11
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103:12
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103:15
come back here Monday for the week
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103:25
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103:28
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103:31
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103:44
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103:49
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103:53
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103:56
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104:00
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104:02
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104:03
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104:06
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104:10
being this rusty I had a great time I
104:13
hope you did thanks again and god
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