Mr Bearded Truth – 43 – Trumped up partisan weapons going nuclear


On Monday August 8th, Former President Trump’s residence in Mar A Lago was raided by the FBI. As usual, it quickly became a partisan shouting match, but thankfully you’re coming to Muddied Waters Media to get a clear take on these muddied waters.

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thank you hello and welcome to Mr America the
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hey hey there we go oh my God it finally decides to work I am having a night I
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hope you guys are having a great Friday night while I have this night that I’m having Muddy Waters media technical issues
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abound uh go to hit the live button and all of my audio cuts out didn’t think to
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check to make sure the mic was going to work beforehand but we are here we are live and I’m so incredibly excited for
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tonight’s conversation tonight we’re coming back at it again no guess just me we’re gonna be talking a little bit
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about some uh trumped up partisan charges that are gonna go Nuclear So
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yes we’re gonna be talking about Mar-A-Lago we’re gonna be talking about what’s going down there near Matt Wright and his neck of the woods his neck of
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the woods if if that’s the neck of the woods yeah it’s really is like the abdomen
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um just because you know there there is some distance we’ll keep we’ll keep the the divides there welcome in everybody
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with me through that but but uh today’s show is going to rely a
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lot on uh my opinions My Views and my stances so thank you to Matt Wright and Spike Cohen for continuing to give me a
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platform to talk to you guys about this stuff because on Monday
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we have a new precedent and that is that a former president can be raided by the FBI and so of course both sides if
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you’re pro-trump if you’re anti-trump you’ve come out and strongly in favor of one way or the other and we the
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Libertarians get to go yeah both sides are [ __ ] let’s go ahead and work our way through this
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um but yeah so today’s topic we are talking a lot about Trump talking a lot about classification of of
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materials whether that’s top secret National Security things of that nature we’re going to be talking about some of
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the precedents um surrounding that so we have a new precedent and of course the people opposed to this precedent are the same
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people who wanted to create a new precedent of going after a former first lady and throwing her in jail quoting
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quoted as lock her up so before we get through all the partisanship we have to
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lay the groundwork for each and every one of you guys because if you guys were sitting there like I was trying to be and just plugging your ears and hoping
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that the week would go by without you um having to pay attention to this this garbage I’m glad that you’re here to get
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the the real skinny of it all to get a deeper understanding of it so
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that when you see your crazy uncle um at the dinner table you could just
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shut them down with some of the facts and statistics and some of the theory around it um and when you’re crazy on who’s just a
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radical anti-trumper when she sits down on the table you can also shut her the hell up as well
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um because that’s what Libertarians are good for shutting people up making them upset because they don’t have the arguments against us
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today I promise you you’re going to get some good insights some good views on this
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do I want to defund the FBI for other reasons yes the question is do I want to defund the
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FBI do I think that the FBI has ever lived up to its intentions no is the FBI
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a good entity that should be loved and adored no
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um but I’ve I’ve said this before uh before they went after a quote unquote
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win after Trump um and everything else but we could talk about the FBI another day as an entity
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in its own um we got a lot to go through tonight this is going to be the one and only
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um conversation we’re gonna be having here going on Scott Noble um but today
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it is an interesting thing we have already seen the narrative
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surrounding this conversation from Monday to today being Friday
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um we’ve seen the narrative around this change drastically over those times looking at it from Monday’s perspective
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everyone was woken up um depending on what time you wake up or you know mosing about your day and then
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you heard that President Trump’s Mar-A-Lago residents had been raided by
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the FBI and suddenly the most Draconian narrative was being painted by those on
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the right the FBI without any reason without any justification without any thought was was just going in and
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pillaging and destroying um everything in the in in the residence and there was no nothing of not a
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scintilla of evidence or or narrative that they could be going off of um Trump is clearly just an innocent man
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and they’re just doing this nothing but in order to prevent him from running in 2024.
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since then um I think even just today we’ve had
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three narrative changes from the president Trump former president Trump himself on Truth social where uh the
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information that they were collecting was first staged it was put there you know um
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if if I could utilize Dave Chappelle in one of his skits of you know going into
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a family’s home and sprinkling some crack on them Johnson that’s kind of the narrative he was
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saying this is the stuff that was taken was this stuff was all put there by the FBI so they were they planted it and
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then took it out then it was well they’re all Declassified so we’ll we’ll dive into that so we’ve
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had this big long narrative change um but I think the most important thing here is to understand
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the roles within this the president of the United States has this weird
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position this weird position where they have unilateral control over the
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classification of materials so whether something is classified as top secret Etc
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um which means that they can also declassify so in the past what we have seen is when
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documents are Declassified is that usually they’re markings of hey this is
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top secret or hey this is secret or this is no foreign or or classified what have you
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um those things get struck it out and there’s some other paperwork out there but just to be able to give that
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paper trail the documents to the
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to everyone’s knowledge to anyone’s knowledge there that was collected none of these documents have
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been had their classification uh struck so the president United States does have
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the power as a sitting president
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um Well here here’s a quote to to clearly Define this as the chief of state the president doesn’t need a
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security clearance because the president is the underlying Authority from which clearance flows in the first place
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conversely that Authority rests with the office rather than the office holder so
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former presidents do not retain it once they have left the office so the accusation
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the search warrant that allowed for the FBI to go into Mar-A-Lago
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okay was to collect information that they believed was classified information
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and it was based on three crimes I’m so proud of my beard I might show after it
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um if you I don’t even know if there’s a like button on on like that comment if you
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guys can um the so the search warrant Darren marlago
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was justified under three crimes which was being accused around this no person was named but the uh the evidence
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through this uh search warrant was to look for violations of the Espionage Act
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obstruction and destruction of federal documents those are three important things to look at we’ll we’ll dive into
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what those mean and everything else um but these documents that they were trying to retrieve through the search
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warrant there in Mar-A-Lago were in order to find evidence for this so a lot of things were taken out
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to everyone’s knowledge these documents still have those classifications so they weren’t through any process actually
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Declassified this is the first big point of contention that we’re going to see in
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the legal world and everybody has their own opinion and I think at the end of the day because there’s there’s this
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power that’s enumerated but not a process enumerated for it it’s going to be really difficult to see how we
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grapple um with this idea but notice that none of those
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none of those are actually a violation of of mishandling of of classified uh
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materials which was one of the the narratives from Monday um that was that was put put out
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um if it was that whole different conversation there and I’m I’m open for that conversation still we may dive into
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that later on in the show um I’m still laughing about that YouTube
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comment laughs but with this so FBI comes in no
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problems they um they request that the the staff and the people there at the residence of the Mar-A-Lago to turn off
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cameras apparently they did not so there is um a record of the FBI coming in and
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Performing these there was no nobody performed any resistance nothing um everything was kind of transparent in
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the way that it was functioning of course the question of why would you need the cameras to be shut down it’s one of those things
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um that we see law enforcement work in weird and mysterious ways but
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um so they collect this information since then um there’s been large amount of calls coming from Trump and from from
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people surrounding Trump to say that you know they don’t need to provide anything that everything needs to be provided by
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the government and I agree with those terms I agree with that narrative that you know I’m the one being accused or my
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residence is being accused or I’m being accused of having my residents hold things that are against me they need to
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to come out and provide you know the search warrant they need to provide this because yes Trump and his lawyers were
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uh given the search warrant um but it’s not incumbent upon them to release those and so uh
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the Attorney General mayor Garland did come out in a federal judge just
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released those sorry not a federal judge a South a South Florida judge um did release
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those documents uh a Magistrate Judge um did release those documents
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um so those are now made public very very very vague um when it comes to how the the search
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warrant was laid out but if I can go through and knock out a couple of important things in here
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um so I was given 14 days it was signed on August 5th which means I had to be
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performed by August 19th so they made that criteria between 6 a.m and 10 p.m so they made that criteria so this
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wasn’t like a Brianna Taylor no knock raid where they could go at 12 40 in the morning no this had to be during the day
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it wasn’t a serious concern I’m glad that they didn’t find documents like this to be of serious concern
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um but the premise to be searched they described the address um and then it’s described as a resort a
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club and a residence located near the intersection is described as a mansion this is really it was mind-blowing to me
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because I live in a small place I I assume a lot of you do as well but it is
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described as a mansion with approximately 58 bedrooms and 33 bathrooms
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foreign include the 45 office all storage rooms
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and other rooms of the areas where premises used or available by the former president of the United States and his
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staff in which boxes and or documents could be stored including all structures or buildings on the estate
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it does not include areas currently resided by Third parties or others um
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Etc um and so also with this all physical documents and records constituting
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evidence Contraband fruits of crimes or other items illegally possessed in
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violation of uh 18 U.S code 70 or 793
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2071 and 1519 including the following any physical documents with
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classification markings along with containers and boxes including other contents in which such documents are
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located as well as other containers that are collectively stored or found together with the aforementioned
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documents and containers or boxes information including Communications in any form regarding the retrieval storage
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and or transmission of National Defense information or classified material National Defense that one is the one
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we’re going to talk about a little bit here in a little bit or we’re going to talk a little bit more about it in in a
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few any government and or presidential records created between January 2017 and
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or January 2021 so the entire time in which president was in office any
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evidence of the knowing alteration destruction or concealment of any government and or presidential records
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or of any documents with classification markings so they are just grabbing anything and everything
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and this has set up a a line of defense that we know partisans to use
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the Republic crests love to use this line of reasoning right when you get accused of something you go but what
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about the other side and we saw this with President Trump today if you guys go on true social don’t worry I’m not
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going to judge you for going on there I had to go on there to look this up but if you are a frequent flyer of there you
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know that this is Trump Trump country of the social media World well on there Trump came out and he had
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a couple tweets today um including
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including there we go uh number one it was all Declassified number two they
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didn’t need to seize anything they could have had it anytime they wanted without playing politics and breaking into the
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Mar-A-Lago it was a secured storage with an additional lock put on per their request and they could have had it anytime they
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wanted and that includes long ago all they had to do was ask I’m sorry I don’t have
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I don’t have that rights uh Trump voice to to put on display for you guys uh
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this was uh true social the bigger problem is what are they going to do with a 33 million pages of
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documents many of which are classified that President Obama took to Chicago he’s of course referencing the uh Obama
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library that is being believe it’s finished um but that is going to have a lot of
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documents in it and also President Obama President Bush a lot of former presidents do maintain some of these
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records some of these things and so it’s that fourth um that fourth portion of the
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objects to be um to be retrieved through the search warrant of any evidence or sorry the
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third one any government and or presidential records created between January 2017 and January 2021 this is
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where that what aboutism really gets to come into play um I don’t think it’s a good defense I
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don’t think it’s a good case because I’m one that I I think that bad actions
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are bad and yes let’s go after as many people as we can but it’s not good enough to say well these other people
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did it so you have to go after them too you can’t go after me um we can dive more into this
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if this was a matter of just having documents of just having classified information I think that this would be a
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giant nothing Burger but I think that there is oh God you guys are going to hate me for
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this there is from the Washington Times New York Times sorry from the New York Times
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They had a post that was talking about this is actually about Declassified
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materials over National Security specifically over nuclear weapons
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this does change things up a little bit um I don’t know this is this is one of
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those difficult things where it’s it’s incredibly difficult to
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Grapple with the idea of something as important as something that they lose frequently which is nuclear weapons but
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actually the information surrounding those um many people are saying that they don’t have unilateral power to
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declassify such information as the nuclear weapons but without it being codified without it being enumerated it
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really gets into a weird circumstance do I think that Trump would sell it off to say
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Russia or to Kim Jong-un or to some other entity I don’t think that it would
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but I think that this is where kind of you have to have that gut check
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you have to go ah even if I like Trump even if I see Trump
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in a positive light and I think that he’s well intentioned do I think that it’s good for him to be able to release
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information around nuclear weapons I don’t really think that that’s a good
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answer but I know that if it was something somebody I saw in the absolute worst perspective it’s not something I
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would want them to have right having that litmus test having that check of
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is this what I would want my worst enemy to be equipped with it’s a pretty clear thing for me that’s like yeah I don’t I
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don’t really see that being valuable um question was was does this mean that
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Trump could have still launched nuclear weapons after he was President I believe that when it comes to the football they
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change the uh the codes on a on a fairly frequent basis and so there there isn’t
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um it’s not that you’d be able to launch those things but there is information surrounding those that can be given out
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um you know from my military past even knowing so I was on submarines and
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so we had the capability like many all submarines we had the capability of
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having nuclear Warheads on board and it is so incredibly illegal for any
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of us to even try to measure any of the the WarHeads that we have on
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board because some of them are not going to be they’re going to be regular ballistics and some of them will be nuclear uh nuclear armed
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um it’s it’s illegal for us to go and take a geiger Mueller um reader and and put it up there to see
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if we’re getting some some some radiation coming off of those so just being able to have any information like
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that could you know could put could pose a risk for those
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kinds of things um so so there’s a there’s a safeguard around
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nuclear armaments and there’s of course a safeguard around nuclear stuff in general um there’s plenty of stuff that I still
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recall from back then but these are classified and that hasn’t been Declassified by President Trump nor any other so I’m not going to dive into
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those um but
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back to the back to the train of thought so it’s going to be it it’s one of those
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things of looking at it do we just say that he has unilateral power unilateral
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control just every bit of he can do what he wants to do because at the time of
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when this was created um or when this when these documents
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were were procured um he was President so now he can declassify them while being president
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to and so even if it’s nuclear weapons that is getting into iffy territories there
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now there’s another perspective with all this that is really coming under siege and this is where you’ve got a lot of
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people partisan on this and I haven’t I don’t like the way that this is
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structured because this this is really we are putting so much trust into our
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presidents and I don’t think that people have realized this so when it comes to the declassifying
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and classifying process every entity with the exception of the
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president has a process they have to go through in order to do these things and even historically the presidents have
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had a process that they’ve gone through where those documents are are marked up and and Declassified and they’ll have a
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stamp on it and it says what day they were Declassified and you know they’ll have like some kind of a paper trail to
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where people aren’t aren’t questioning if it’s been Declassified
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that’s been kind of a a a a tip of the hat to tradition
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there’s nothing there that codifies that and so it brings up a couple
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hypotheticals probably not hypotheticals I just wasn’t able to find any of them wherein a president could declassify
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something so let’s say that President Trump did declassify these and it was it was
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during the time of him being president of of having those powers and he had those in his Mar-A-Lago residence for
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whatever reason but somebody else had that same document now it is technically because it was
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through the proper channels and everything else Declassified this other individual let’s say I found this document and I was found guilty of
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holding classified information that I’m not supposed to have there’s nothing there protecting me
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because there was no paper trail but there cannot be a forced paper trail unless the president himself creates
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something that forces a process to happen going forward so this may be something where Joe Biden comes out and
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and safeguards the future of of declassifying information doubtful
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um but it can’t fall to Congress and it can’t fall to the judicial courts either
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and it has to remain with the president it has to remain with an article uh
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article two of the Constitution because that’s where it’s called out so when it
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is a a constitutional thing and it is afforded to only one branch it is not afforded to the others to make sure that
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they’re doing it the way that they want them to do it they have no control so it falls to just merely the Office of
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the President it can’t fall below because it’s given to the top
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so there’s only one seat in the entire country that can can enumerate a process
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it’s going to be really difficult to see somebody come forward and set a process where they’re going to limit themselves
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in the future imagine that government limiting government yeah that’s not gonna that’s not a thing let’s just just
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trust the 87 000 new IRS agents uh they’re gonna do a good job
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um so we’ve got so much on this that I’m we
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don’t [Music] this whole conversation is so convoluted
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because of all the partisanship because of people who worked with Trump are saying like this is what Trump did this
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is how Trump works this is how you know this is Eric Trump coming out there and
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if he was better at looking at what he said he would have his own foot in his mouth
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um well armed yes well armed 87 000 IRS
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agents But Eric Trump came out and and there’s a lot of people that are putting out really bad faith things there’s a
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lot of people that are just coming out there just throwing out blanketed defenses and and uh just kind of ignorant of of the whole topic and don’t
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want to look at it they want to just they want to find their goal and they want to work towards that goal
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and Eric Trump said something um in order to try to do a slam dunk on uh President Biden which I have no
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problem dunking on Biden let’s be honest it’s kind of easy it’s kind of fun um you know just ask Biden
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for one term that would describe America um fantastic if you haven’t seen that go
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go go Google that one um But Eric Trump trying to dunk on Biden
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sitting there on Fox News he says I know the White House as well as anyone that’s right
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the Sun of a former president of a one-term president who was impeached twice
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who cons consistently called to use the doj
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as a political means or against his political enemies he says I know the White House as well
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as anyone I know the system this did not happen without Joe Biden’s
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explicit approval when discussing around this raid on Monday night
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from that perspective of Joe Biden probably should have been involved on this raid
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um if I was Joe Biden I wouldn’t I would want to do what every other president
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has done and distance myself from this we’ve already seen where the the press secretary has already distanced herself
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from this because even if this was an entirely benevolent
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raid of nothing but just trying to clean out things without a a s without the
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idea of it being partisan in any way of being political opponents in any way Etc
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it’s not something that you would want to be engaged with at all
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so the Joe Biden wouldn’t want to be a part of this but Eric Trump is saying that
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he knows from experience from his one term in office or from his father’s one-term in office that
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any raid well I mean we can extr we can expand it out to say any raid by the FBI
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is done with the president’s approval which he may be the the commander-in-chief but
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that’s that’s really micromanaging at best
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or just merely the big giant raids where
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we’ve seen calls for the doj to step in where we’ve seen where uh you know Trump is gone after James Comey uh during his
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time in office um for not doing things you know apparently there’s president’s got a lot
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more sway than what they arguably should
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so um so I was checking up on the comments again but
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so this whole thing is blowing up right now and in at the end of the day there’s a couple narratives that have to be
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looked at there’s going to be a couple fights on a sitting president has unilateral power
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and it’s because they’re the president not because they’re former president so once they leave they are no longer that
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God over over the declassifying and classifying information so once they’re out
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now you have just your random Joe schmoe that may have some some classified information
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still as depicted by previous presidents what of it was Declassified what of it
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do we have records of it being Declassified how does that go about well
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that’s something that we’re gonna have to have these discussions on if we want a better government these are discussions that are going to need to be
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had with the president United States and A change is necessary but if we look to
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what is his name okay
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I have his name right there sorry I wrote my notes and if you guys
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know anybody who just [ __ ] and all over the place uh cash Patel cash Patel a panda if you
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know anybody who is just all over the place you’ll know like my notes are also all over the place um cash Patel a pentagon Chief of Staff
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during the Trump Administration he was when discussing this very raid
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was discussing this very information he had a lot to say on this he’s been on Breitbart he’s been on Fox News he’s
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been on mostly the right wing networks right the the right side of the aisle because he’s speaking in favor and so of
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course he wouldn’t be accepted on left wing he’s on the right wing side of things um but he told Breitbart News in May that
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the documents previously recorded or recovered in Mar-A-Lago had been Declassified by Trump but their markings
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were not updated Trump Declassified whole sets of materials in anticipation of leaving government that he thought
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the American public should have the right to read themselves it’s information that Trump felt spoke
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to matters regarding everything from russiagate to the Ukrainian impeachment Fiasco to major national security
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matters of great public importance anything that the president felt the American people had a right to know is
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in there and more Patel said adding that he was with he was with Trump when the
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then president said we are declassifying this information Patel who declined to comment on the documents this week told
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Breitbart that the White House Council failed to generate the paperwork to change the classification markings but
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that doesn’t mean the information wasn’t Declassified so Patel is already putting himself into this thing saying look we
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can’t have any kind of Standards we can’t have any process um Trump’s just okay with this
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and johannoush is asking the right questions didn’t Trump once say he would release the Uso UFO information
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we didn’t need to know that we needed to know the Russian gate stuff right we got to focus on the importance of here
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but we’re gonna see like I said we’re gonna see this battle and arguably nothing is going to come of it it’s
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gonna be like the discussion of qualified immunity where we’re going to keep having to keep fighting people to have these conversations of
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let’s hold people accountable it’s going to be conversations like around civil asset forfeiture where we’re going to be
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like let’s stop letting the state steal from people it’s one of those things that we the people see like hey there’s
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an actual problem here you guys could easily be a part of the solution by stop doing bad things and do more gooder
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things yes more gooder it’s just gonna fall on deaf ears
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so it’s um
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so it’s really interesting because you know that that last part of from Patel of these things were not marked as
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unclassified but they were Declassified I I don’t understand how
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it it puts it into a scenario where things are incredibly arbitrary and I’m not saying that the government makes
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sense I’m not saying um yes I agree with who just texted me
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um I lost my train of thought because of you texted me but I love you
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um oh but it it’s incredibly arbitrary and
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yes the government is arbitrary of course but the idea that if you don’t have to declassify things and markings
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but you can just declassify them without a paper trail so many things are
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going to fall through the cracks it really just shows to the level of what government doesn’t matter these
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classifications don’t matter at the end of the day because it they could all be Declassified but you
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could just say no he said this was Declassified and so it’s Declassified if that’s the level of of expertise that
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we need if that’s the level of professionalism if that’s the level of a process that we need just literally
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anytime anyone is is found guilty of of holding confidential material no this
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one was Declassified when yes
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that’s it that’s it that’s all you have to do that’s all you have to do
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I I figured as much and that’s why I wasn’t gonna I wasn’t gonna I’m gonna read it out loud
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what’s up winning TV so it’s so oh
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I found those notes again um it’s it’s such a frustrating situation to watch and I understand I
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empathize with you all and when we see our friends and our families and our our
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the news is arguing over this they aren’t talking about how to make this better they’re arguing should president
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Trump be allowed to run for president again um in 2024 because that is one of those
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charges the destruction of federal documents if found guilty
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this is arguably the politically aimed one the maximum or the minimum punishment is
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or maximum punishment is three years and the penalty includes disqualification of future office now
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another stupid constitutional argument
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does that mean president United States because it doesn’t specify it the Constitution says what
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your qualifications have to be and it doesn’t say that you could be found guilty of this thing that
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was created hundreds of years later um but this is this is the angle that
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people are taking so we’re going to see the argument and the fighting over
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can a president posthumously declassify information
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does there need to be a process for declassifying information how can you tell when something was
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Declassified if there was not a process for declassifying and if found guilty of
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destruction Federal documents which I don’t know the basis for that on this
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I haven’t seen more than just the what was what was uh unsealed
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does this mean that the president United States the former president United States cannot run again
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so I this is this is one of those
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circumstances that I It piqued my interest for the reasons why it doesn’t pick anybody else’s interest because I
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love these constitutional debates I love these these these structures these power structures the the struggles between how
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the government’s going to function and move forward and honestly if you guys if we’re gonna look
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at the political aims for me it looks at hey are these people actually looking to make our lives better or are they just
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just trying to give themselves cover and I think at the end of the day what they’re going to do especially if we see
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President Biden not taking action and make an executive order to set a process forward they’re just looking to be able
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to go after each other that’s at the end of the day government is there as an entity to go after individuals and to go
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after groups and to go after organizations it’s not there for our interests it’s there just to be able to
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to Insider trade legally Nancy Pelosi uh it’s there so that they can steal your
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labor steal your profits steal from you and your family steal food off of your
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tables and then Pat themselves on the back for the good job that they did because after they took all of your jobs
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now people are responding and they’re getting more jobs back and they’re like look at what a great job we did
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government so for me this is this is why it piqued my interest and if you if you got that Trump trump
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Uncle you got that that uh that that Progressive left Aunt
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they’re in it for their teams I’m in it because I hate government honestly I
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hate the inefficiency I hate the ineffectiveness I hate the way that these processes go but I’m intrigued by
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them and so that’s why I wanted to bring it to you guys today so I I love you guys I appreciate you guys I
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want to know your thoughts where do you guys line up on this do you guys am I way off base with this do you think
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that I I was making sense with us all does the timeline ever make sense when it comes from me
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but what can what do you think is the best path forward on this do we just
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what’s your take what’s your answer feel free to drop those in the comments below if you guys are listening later on the
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Jason Lyon
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Jason Lyon - USN Submarine Vet -Minarchist/Constitutionalist - #Liberty advocate - Principles over party - Constitution over Idolatry
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