Episode 259 – Inflation Expansion Act


The Inflation Reduction Act looks like it’s going to pass the house on Friday and become law by the weekend. What will this bill do to the economy?

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that is how we are acting
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to reduce inflation but we wouldn’t call
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wouldn’t want to be associated with the
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absolute garbage that just passed in
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Congress
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so on Sunday after a marathon voting
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session
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the inflation reduction act and before
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we get further into this
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the Patriot Act the bipartisan safer
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communities act the uh I can’t think of
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uh ACA Affordable Care Act Affordable
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Care Act No Child Left Behind right if a
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bill has something in its title
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it probably does the opposite
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so the inflation reduction act uh passed
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the Senate 50 50 with Kamala Harris
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giving the
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tying breaking tie-breaking boats passed
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directly along party lines that’s right
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Joe manchin acting President Joe manchin
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decided it was time to pass this bill
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and we’re going to get into why later
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now over 230 economists say that this
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bill will not
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will not reduce inflation
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no and for anybody out there who has
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read any of this bill it is a steaming
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pile of garbage it is a pork build that
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was there to push
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various Democratic talking points
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um and
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we’re going to talk about some of the
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bigger issues that are in the bill
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um the main issues that are in the Bill
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and kind of what it is that they do and
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then we’ll discuss what will actually
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happen with these
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with these soon to be new laws
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now first is the closure of the carried
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interest loophole which I didn’t know
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what this was because
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I don’t make four hundred thousand
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dollars a year
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um the carried interest loophole uh
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the enclosure of this lengthens the
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holding period required for managers of
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certain investment funds to receive
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preferential tax treatment for a portion
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of their compensation known as carried
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interest allegedly this applies only to
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taxpayers with income exceeding four
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hundred thousand dollars or those not
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getting paid on venmo yeah that’s not
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just to let you know that’s not how this
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works it’s about those who have those
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investment funds and while yes a I would
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say a large uh the majority vast
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majority of people that are in those
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funds are have incomes exceeding four
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hundred thousand dollars it’s certainly
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not statutory by any stretch and of
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course as we know when you tax The
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Producers which people making over 400
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000 are not the oligarchs they’re the
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upper middle class and they’re the
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people that are the producers and the
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consumers and when you tax that group of
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people all that does is days get passed
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down to further down the food chain it’s
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trickle-down Taxation and it will end up
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making it there but yeah this this
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that’s that is not it doesn’t even just
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only apply to them but also it will end
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up it would everyone will end up feeling
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that to some extent
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speaking of feeling it there was an
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American Care Act subsidy extension
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um this would extend the temporary
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expansion of Premium tax credits through
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2025. uh the expansion which offers
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eligibility to households above 400
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percent of the poverty line is scheduled
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to expire at the end of 2022 under
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current law
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so essentially this one doesn’t do it
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doesn’t make any changes
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yeah for the most part it just extends
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the law uh of a terrible law that
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shouldn’t have ever been a law but it is
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so now we have to accept it as law even
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though it violated multiple parts of the
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Constitution because it’s not a tax but
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it is a tax
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anyway it’s a magical taxi non-tax tax
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tax non-tax and and the the beauty of
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this uh subsidy is that as long as they
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keep this subsidy going which was always
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designed to fade off because eventually
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it wouldn’t be needed because Healthcare
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would just become so darn affordable
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that they wouldn’t need the subsidy
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instead what has happened is that even
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with the subsidy the cost of Health Care
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has quadrupled
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what happens when you make it mandatory
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that people have to get a single product
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and I should say the cost of insurance
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yes as quadruple not not Healthcare but
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the cost of insurance has nearly
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quadrupled and so what’s going to happen
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is that when eventually that subsidy
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becomes such a bubble that they can’t do
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it anymore because long before they stop
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paying out Social Security or Medicare
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they’re going to stop paying out the ACA
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subsidy and when that happens and people
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realize that their care is not
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affordable
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that their insurance actually costs a
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so gosh Diggity darn
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is that expensive this is
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God this gobbledygook cheese eating
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Bulldog uh kind of uh uh lint liquor
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nonsense is the exact kind of thing so
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again Affordable Care Act it’s not
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affordable it’s heavily subsidized to
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hide the fact that it was made less
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affordable and so that’s been extended
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uh they’re also uh there’s energy
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security and climate change Investments
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including uh tax rebates and credits to
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lower energy costs for households we
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could call that the affordable energy
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Act Right subsidize it to make it more
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expensive uh the uh tax credits research
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loans and grants to increase domestic
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manufacturing capacity for wind turbines
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that’s corporate welfare for politically
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connected green companies that are
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usually attached to Major fossil fuel
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companies uh in a way for them to uh to
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hedge future bets and make you pay for
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the whole damn thing a darn thing didn’t
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they do this with solyndra back in like
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yeah this is solyndra this is silindra
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for everyone
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grants to increase oh for for wind
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turbine solar panels batteries and other
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essential components of clean energy
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production and storage this is a massive
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again but he was Matt was saying this is
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pork and corporate bailouts this is one
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of them it’s just corporate welfare
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um tax credits to reduce carbon
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emissions
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that is corporations being paid to
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retrofit their companies to be more
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green compliant and make you pay for it
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while they tell you to eat bugs
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uh and uh but now of course it’s okay
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um because uh it also has programs to
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reduce the environmental impact of
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Agriculture which doesn’t at all sound
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like the kind of food rationing that
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they were doing in the Netherlands that
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led to massive riots I mean that sounds
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like you foreshadowed it a little bit
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that sounds like we’re going to be
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eating bugs here in the future
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um
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everything about this is in order to
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push that green agenda that the left
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ones which it’s not they they say that
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it’s about you know saving the planet
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conserving all that it’s not it is about
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control it’s about control over you
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control over your money control over how
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you live your life
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um
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everything in this
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like one of the things that’s in here
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um
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they were giving subsidies on electric
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vehicles that were being sold uh to the
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manufacturers up to 200 000 cars uh I
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think that was a number may have been
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higher but up to 200 000 cars so Tesla
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went through them super fast because
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Tesla actually made a good electric car
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now they’ve included one where used
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electric cars that get sold the people
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get a subsidy as well so
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Tesla will start getting the subsidy
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again as people are buying used Teslas
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this is just a way to ensure that
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companies continue to go down this road
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as opposed to any other Road and since
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Joe Biden promised uh that we would uh
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have a fully electric Fleet by 2030 like
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75 of the cars on the road will be
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electric by 2035 I don’t remember the
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exact numbers but something along those
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lines is trying to force it where those
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are the only things being made and and
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price out the car the gas fueled cars
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that are well everywhere
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which is good because uh as we know
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those cars are largely powered by coal
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right now yes
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no because that and natural gas colon
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Natural Gas
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so it’s
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just still using fossil fuels that we
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can’t mine here because you’re not
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allowed to anymore
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um yeah yeah that was another thing real
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quick that was another thing uh if
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if you are an electric car company you
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get the subsidy the 200 000 the the
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original one plus the used car one as
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long as you don’t get your lithium
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uh from China
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and we can’t get lithium here in America
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because you can’t mine for it so that
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means
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we’re gonna have to get it from
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somewhere else
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and that would
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it’s Africa
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it’s the only other place you can really
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do that
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so
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watch out Africa Here Comes Liberation
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yep
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that should be fun for you
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it will be very fun watching uh probably
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the Democrats pretend that they’re
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against the racist Wars against Africa
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that they will simultaneously then vote
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to fully fund and then some uh with
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every budget that they pass
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because of the rules that they put in
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place with the inflation reduction act
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which will be remembered as the act that
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for some reason had led to worse
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inflation and a recession
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totally unrelated of course totally
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unrelated now the reason it’s totally
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unrelated is because this creates a 15
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corporate minimum tax in the form of a
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15 corporate Alternative Minimum Tax uh
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based on the financial statement income
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of Corporations with at least one
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billion dollars in that kind of uh
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income now uh as uh as is noted here
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um half of all those new taxes are going
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to be paid by manufacturers
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which means it won’t reduce demand of
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course
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but it will reduce the supply because
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you’re taxing the people who make the
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stuff and who are already dealing with
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major overhead and supply chain and
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labor issues so now you’re going to hit
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them with an even more attacks what’s
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actually going to happen
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is that they’re going to move their
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headquarters and bases of operations to
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other countries like China
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they will get whatever subsidies they
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can from this and tax breaks they can
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and then as soon as the part that they
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have to pay kicks in they will already
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have set up the pro the plan to move
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somewhere else this is all about
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destroying their smaller competitors who
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can’t afford the cost of this or the
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cost of retrofitting and moving their
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business to another base of operation
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somewhere else
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Exxon likes this bill I I don’t know how
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what else to say like the major
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corporations have been simping for their
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this bill on their corporate media and I
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don’t I don’t I have a hard time
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figuring out something adequate I can do
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with my hands and face and mouth to
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describe how I feel about the fact that
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there are people
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who think this is a good idea
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even though the corporations they think
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will be paying for this
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are saying they want it it also has a
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prescription drug price reform which
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let us not forget that
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and we’re not defending the man
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but Trump put in a lot of prescription
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drug price reforms that we were also
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against that he did as executive order
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and in early 2021 Joe Biden wiped them
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all out
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and now putting them back into this bill
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almost word for word the same things
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not saying that he uh it was good when
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Trump did it just saying
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this is a hundred percent being done
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to Virtue signal
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but this allows Medicare to negotiate
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the price of certain prescription drugs
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limits Medicare and Commercial price
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growth of certain drugs to inflation and
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repeals the implementation of a rebate
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rule scheduled to increase drug related
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Medicare outlays beginning in 2027.
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uh redesigns Medicare Part D benefit
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formula and caps out of pocket costs for
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beneficiaries
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yeah so the only way this is actually
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going to reduce costs of drugs for the
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end user is the same way uh they’ve made
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health care premiums more affordable
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that’s through just making the end user
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subsidize it as a taxpayer and then not
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pay as much as the user
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so it’s a scam and uh it also allows the
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price to rise even more because they
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don’t see it they don’t see the actual
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increase any real attempt to try to
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lower drug prices is either going to
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blow up in the government’s face as it
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always does because they suck at
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negotiating things or it’s going to be
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like a price cap
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and as we’ve talked about many times on
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this show all price caps do
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is make a product unaffordable to
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produce and and distribute and therefore
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cause shortages which means that people
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who need that thing whatever it is in
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this case life-saving drugs right
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either have to go without and die or get
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it on the black market and pay even more
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even more for they’re not going to do
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that so instead what they’re going to do
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is just subsidize the crap out of it
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which means you’re paying for it in the
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form of taxes debt and inflation and I
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know that we’ve talked about this on the
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show before but we’ll go over because I
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I think it’s been a while since we last
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talked about it
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I don’t know the most recent update to
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this but I know in 20 uh uh 11
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2011. the cost that it took for a drug
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manufacturer to come up with the ideas
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to a drug to FDA approval
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was about a billion dollars
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yep that’s the problem and you have
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multiple that don’t make it all the way
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you have some that go stage one testing
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they scrap it they have others that are
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stage two testing they scrap it by the
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time it gets to Blind stage five or
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whatever it is
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you’re you’re getting there at blind
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stage five
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um but you have a lot of others that you
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scrap before that they need to recoup
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those costs
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and they have because of copyright laws
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they have what’s seven years I believe
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uh to sell it for to try to recoup as
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much of that billion dollars plus make
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back whatever they lost on other drugs
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that didn’t make it to Market
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before people can start coming out with
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generics
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if you do this
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research and development is going to
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essentially disappear
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yeah
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this is bad this is what what it’s it’s
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going to disappear from here right it’s
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going to go somewhere else see where was
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like
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right right and that’s where they’re
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already subsidizing it and this is
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this is a major problem now I know what
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you’re thinking how are they going to
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pay for all of this well mostly with
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debt but they are adding some additional
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taxes on people that can’t leave
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you
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so the IRS uh tax enforcement they’re
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appropriating approximately 80 billion
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dollars over the next decade for IRS
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enforcement activities including the
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hiring and training of new Auditors I.T
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systems modernization and taxpayer
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Services meaning auditing you uh they’re
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getting they’re more than doubling the
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number of IRS agents 87
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000 new IRS agents now to keep that in
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mind I think there’s 240 some odd
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billionaires in the U.S that’s not what
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this is for I think they’re doing it to
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you
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yeah so is it 7 40 I thought it was two
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something billionaire or something
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I think is that maybe worldwide
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yeah six there as of October of 2020
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there were 614 billionaires
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and then this says 642 anyway whatever
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there’s 600 and some odd billionaires uh
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there are a few hundred billionaires
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these 87 000 new IRS agents who by the
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way they’re heavily arming are for you
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they’re for you
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um the bill earmarks uh 45.6 billion
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dollars for enforcement mechanisms now
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by the way this is a 45.6 billion
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dollars they’re going to raise from you
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it’s how much they’re going to spend on
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what they’re going to raise from you
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they’re going to raise trillions of
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dollars from you using enforcement
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mechanisms like litigation criminal
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investigations investigative technology
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digital asset monitoring and new Fleet
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of tax collector cars uh and I know what
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you’re thinking Joe Biden promised me
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that if I was making under four hundred
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thousand dollars
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that I would never pay more taxes than
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I’m paying right now well according to
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the Senate’s joint committee on taxation
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the organization who tells the entire
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federal government what the tax
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implication will be for any policy that
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includes taxation or Revenue raising
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in other words the people who tell Joe
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Biden what’s going to happen
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between 78 percent and 90 percent so as
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much as 90 of the money that is going to
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be raised from these new measures will
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come from people making less than 200
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000 a year
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you
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probably maybe you make over most most
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of you who don’t make two hundred
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thousand dollars a year yeah
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only four to nine percent would come
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from those making more than five hundred
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thousand dollars
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so not only did he lie
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it’s the exact opposite of what he said
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it’s likely if you’re making more than
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five hundred thousand dollars a year
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that you won’t pay more and it’s almost
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certain that if you are making less than
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200 000 a year that you will pay more
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and you will be audited to
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now I know what you’re wondering how did
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they get acting President Joe manchin
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to vote for this even though it’s not
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going to lower inflation it’s actually
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probably going to raise inflation it is
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the cost is exorbitantly high and
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because his state is disproportionately
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poor compared to most other states it’s
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going to hurt the people in the state
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Matt do we have any answer to that just
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total mystery you know we do
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and
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next era energy
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a utility Giant and stakeholder in the
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Mountain Valley pipeline is a top donor
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to both Mr manchin and Senator Chuck
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Schumer Democrat of New York who
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negotiated the pipeline side deal with
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Mr manchin
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Mr Schumer has received more than 281
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thousand dollars from next ERA this
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election cycle uh
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equitrans Midstream which owns the
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largest stake in the pipeline has given
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more than ten thousand to Mr Mansion the
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pipeline and its owners have spent
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heavily to Lobby Congress
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and this bill
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allows them to build their pipeline in
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West Virginia
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can you pull up that graphic again yeah
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go ahead and finish with what you were
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saying so basically
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they bought him
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yeah this was Joe manchin’s price
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the Mountain Valley pipeline was Joe
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manchin’s price
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everybody’s got a price everybody in DC
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is a for something
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Joe manchin is a for the Mountain
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Valley pipeline
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yep for 291 thousand dollars of which he
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only got ten thousand under
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yeah
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what oh gosh
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oh you’re right Schumer got 281 yeah
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over ten thousand dollars
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yeah but the pipeline will help out uh
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communities in West Virginia greatly
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right but his price
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is just over a ten thousand dollars and
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this is what we try to talk about you
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know when people say but without
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government who would stop these you know
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corporations from you know from
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mistreating us
25:22
the corporations because of the power
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the regulatory power we allow government
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to have
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they can spend tens or even hundreds of
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thousands of dollars and they get back
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in return
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billions of dollars hundreds of millions
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billions and tens of billions of dollars
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anything they give they get back like at
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four zeros to it
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there is nothing in a free market that
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has that kind of
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proven return on investment
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in this kind of an environment in a
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corporatist cronyiest environment it
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always is the smarter play for bigger
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companies to spend resources on making
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political connections and then having
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them just write laws that basically make
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it illegal for them not to become
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wealthy at your expense like the way
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these are written it is they are
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mandated to be rich and you are mandated
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to make them rich
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yep so Joe manchin the person who kept
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us from build back better even though
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this is build back better light
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um he kept buildback better off the
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table he’s kept a lot of bad legislation
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off of the senate floor because they
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weren’t going to put it up if it wasn’t
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going to pass and Joe manchin insured it
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wasn’t going to path because he said I’m
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not going to vote for anything that will
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raise taxes while inflation is so high
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that has exorbitant spending while
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inflation is so high and especially
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anything that hurts people in my state
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they found his price and they gave it to
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him to give them a win going into
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midterms
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for ten thousand dollars
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and the jobs in the day and whatever the
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pipeline will bring
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and whatever the pipeline will bring to
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New York or to West Virginia
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um New York yeah
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um but that is Joe manchin’s price
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everybody in DC has a price
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some is much higher than others Joe
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Mansions yep ten thousand dollars
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plus whatever that pipeline brings in to
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West Virginia
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yeah but he wouldn’t care what the
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pipeline brings into West Virginia if he
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didn’t get that ten thousand dollars and
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that’s the point yep
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so
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