Episode 152 – #Kanye is Running… for album sales

The Muddied Waters of Freedom with Matt Wright & Spike Cohen

About This Episode

Kanye West announces he is running for President, #GhislaneMaxwellDidntKillHerself, Scotus has a few more rulings this week, and Florida Governor signs an occupational licensing law that “repeals more occupational licensing laws than any licensing reform ever passed by any other state” according to the Institute of Justice. 

Plus: A Personal Injury Attorney, Chris Reynolds, Attorney At Law Anchor call in moment, and an update from Spike on the campaign. 

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Episode Transcript

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korean favor like many people people
love me and you know what i’ve been very
everybody loves me
it’s social media it gets out i have you
know hundreds of millions of people
number one on facebook you know i was
number one on facebook and i just found
out i’m number one on facebook i thought
that was very
good morning good afternoon or good
evening and welcome to the vanguard
for spike jews world cohen i am matt
wright and together we are traversing
the muddied waters
of freedom jews oh juice
that one was tough hey everybody how are
you doing thanks for joining us
matt how was your week my week was good
my week was good
i’m uh you know getting all ready for
some big event that’s happening here in
orlando this weekend
oh yeah we’re having the convention yeah
we got that convention happening
well that explains why my wife and i are
going to orlando
tomorrow oh it explains i was
for a minute there was like i was like
well i mean you know it’s nice
i hear disney world’s opening back up
uh so you know i thought well i’ll go to
florida but
you’re right it was because of the
which is good because i’m actually going
to be speaking uh on friday yeah
it’s good it’s good because i’m actually
scheduled to speak at the luncheon
on friday uh at noon which will be on
i’m told um and then also i am hosting
the uh gun owners of america’s
uh uh panel on the second amendment and
civil liberties and self-protection and
gun rights and all that
uh and it’s going to be hosted by me
uh antonia uh okafor cover maj turay and
many other
uh libertarian and libertarian-leaning
uh activists of all different uh
ethnicities and
sexual identities and everything else uh
to show that liberty that
the uh the cause of gun rights and gun
ownership is not a
a white people thing so that’s happening
saturday morning um
yeah by the way let me i just want to
talk about that for a minute
okay that is happening saturday morning
i was thinking that was going to be like
a saturday night thing
no but now i have to wake up early to
tour you have to wake up early because
it’s going to be like 10 00 in the
yeah i think yeah 10 10 o’clock so i
have to leave here
at like 8 30.
maybe earlier maybe earlier
well i’m leaving here at 8 30. how long
does it take to get you to
the rosen center in orlando florida
about hour and 15 normally okay yeah
i’d leave eight 15-ish
yeah that’s a babysitter thing though oh
okay okay well then
that’s not like that that’s not
me that’s fair that’s fair so folks
thanks for tuning in we have quite a
show for you we’re going to go through
week’s events and we’re going to do uh
some call-ins from our chris reynolds
personal injury attorney chris reynolds
attorney at law anchor collin moment
about halfway through
uh we’re gonna go through all of various
week events and then we’re going to give
an update on the
jorgensen cohen campaign first and
first and foremost allow me to thank
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for the cava that i am drinking on
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matt i just want to say that um
it was two years ago oh yeah july
4th so what saturday
two years ago saturday that spike cohen
officially joined
muddy waters media and aired his very
first show of my fellow americans was
that with um
was that with lou sander or what was
that lou sander it was an episode
detailing the history of the american
and the articles of confederation and
the constitution that replaced it
and uh it was a very rousing discussion
a incredibly well-read and brilliant and
well-spoken man in luxander
and an absolute bumbling mess of a
person who did not know
what the hell he was doing in me spike
cohen but i’ve gotten better
you much much much better yes you have
yeah i mean i remember the first show of
muddied waters of freedom
you know before you were the host right
and um
it was uh it was a bumbling mess of a
it was awkward and quiet and we didn’t
really know
what we were doing and i would like to
think that i have also gotten
more we have all gotten better we have
all gotten at least marginally better i
slightly better i tell people don’t
watch that episode but it’s actually a
great episode that episode one
so much information incredibly
informative i’m just sitting there like
hey that’s great uh so i have another
question and everything i say ends like
like i’m asking you a question it was it
was my voice
i don’t know what was wrong with i had
no idea i was like going through puberty
all over i was going through a few
at the age of 30 what was 36
going through puberty live on facebook
and youtube um so yeah no so we’ve
we’ve moved past that thankfully and
have moved into
uh actually being good at this um and
speaking of being good at something
and then leveraging that for
politics uh kanye west
has decided to you don’t have the
updated notes
i don’t have the update and that’s why i
haven’t no you don’t so uh
breaking news breaking news
the trump administration is looking to
ban tick-tock
ah looking to ban the old
tic-tock social media right when i get
on tick-tock
literally spike owen if if you’re
looking for a reason why
there it is that’s definitely the reason
why yeah
um in june it was reported by forbes
that the app was caught spying on
millions of iphone users
again by apple after previously being
caught in april
and they were also caught doing this in
uh mike pompeo warned american users of
chinese apps
that they need to be careful in that
risk putting their private information
in the hands of the chinese communist
but in all actuality i’m pretty certain
it’s because
the tick tock kids messed with donald
trump yeah
yeah yeah the reason this is happening
folks is because
when uh when uh donald trump had his uh
his last rally in tulsa oklahoma
um they had a million people over a
million people try to get tickets to go
to it
and um the reason for that was because a
bunch of uh
teenage k-pop fans on tick-tock decided
uh they call it operation lincoln they
decided to
uh pretend that they wanted to go and
sign up to to go to this
event which crowded it out made it
harder for other people who
actually did want to go and so it kind
of screwed with the president’s numbers
now meanwhile it turned out they were
vetting those but it created this
situation where
uh uh trump was claiming that you know a
million people wanted to come and then
he could
i mean he had like less than half
nickelback actually did much better
there the last time they were there
uh and they had all these you know they
had these outdoor areas for overflow
capacity and all this and no one can
like next to no one camps like 6 000
people that came way less than once
trump trump scheduled a sec like a a a
pre-talk yeah give you like a pre-talk
to talk to all the people that were
going to be waiting outside
yeah and there was no one there yeah
there was no one there was there were
reporters out there and that was it
reporting that no one was there it was
it was pretty bad so i’m pretty sure
that’s part of it
uh tick tock is actually owned by an
american company uh they have an
american headquarter or their own
so they’re owned by their subsidiary of
a chinese company
uh but they’ve also had quite a bit of
autonomy they’ve said they haven’t
shared any data
with the chinese government uh in in any
situation they’ve never been requested
to share it and they never have shared
they actually that doesn’t mean it
wasn’t taken though it didn’t mean it
wasn’t taken but they also said that
all of their servers are in the us and
singapore so they’re no more
uh they’re no more vulnerable to having
their information taken than
any other tech company um when the
recent hong kong security bill was
they did what many other tech companies
did and and now boycotted uh hong kong
so you can’t do business uh you you
can’t use tick tock if you’re on hong
so this is because the k-pop kids
screwed with trump’s rally that’s that’s
all this is about
um there’s no security implication to
the existence of tick tock and speaking
of tick tock
if you want some great content uh be
sure to follow me
at literally spike cohen on tick tock
and if you want absolutely no content
you can follow muddied waters media at
muddy waters media because we have a
thing we just don’t do anything with it
yeah for a while we were only following
one person and that was vermin that was
german supreme yeah
no no uh we’ll probably start following
me on there as well
um yeah i think we’re following up maybe
yeah i mean
the reason i the reason i have a tick
tock is because i have a campaign uh
social media team who is
putting me on tik tok and telling me
things to say on video so they can add
it to tick tock so
that’s that’s why we’re on tick tock
otherwise i would not be on tick tock
because i
don’t get tick-tock
i don’t get tick-tock but i don’t have
to get ticked off because
no i’m i’m starting so having it on my
phone since
vermin supreme since right uh
i get tick tock a lot more than i used
to because man if you’re just trying to
five minutes to six hours it’s real easy
to do
well speaking of killing time kanye west
is decided to kill
anywhere from a few minutes to the
better part of the year
right running for president running for
of these united states so far he has
hit the ground running by tweeting that
he’s running for president
yeah uh i believe that the ballot access
uh in three major states have already
uh he um
i don’t believe he’s filed officially
he hasn’t he hasn’t done it with
anything right um yeah basically
kanye is doing this for publicity yeah
because he has a new album coming out
and he really wants it to uh be a big
and that sounds a lot like another
famous person that ran for president
who had a tv show that was getting ready
to air and he wanted it to be a big hit
and get more money for it of course he
is the president he’s now the president
but he also like registered and filed to
run for president
he had a campaign like so he actually
yes it was to try to push his show but
right he did put everything into motion
as opposed to just
declaring he was running for president
but this is something vermin says
running for president is a declarative
statement in and of itself if you
i am running for president you’re
running for president
it doesn’t mean you’re going to be on
any ballots or that anyone’s going to
vote for you
or that anyone even heard you when you
said it and so i mean
kanye’s already ahead of the game in
that because a lot of people heard him
say it
right but that’s you then have to
do stuff yeah there’s there’s things
that you have to do to follow
that up because even a lot of states
don’t allow write-ins like you have to
try to get on the ballot or no one can
vote for you if they even want to and i
deeply suspect that this might be the
that we hear of this actually i
shouldn’t say that i think he’ll tweet
about it some more
he’ll continue to continue this but in
terms of actions
i think that just talking about it is
the most we’re going to get and i i am
thankful about this because this is kind
of waking people up to the idea of not
voting for trump or biden it’s helping
with that
which uh if you don’t want to vote for
trump or biden
and you want someone who’s actually
going to be on the ballot
you’ve got other options
so speaking of somebody who doesn’t have
more options
so well someone who currently has very
few options very few options
jizzling gizlane maxwell did we
determine whether it’s gizlane or jazlyn
so as part of my show prep for the show
i watched a bunch of show
like i watched and listened to a bunch
of podcasts and radio shows and
just to find out how to say her name
and they all said it differently so no
one knows how to say it no no
no yeah and we all won’t know soon
because she’s gonna
not kill herself
right uh well as we all know she was
arrested at her hideaway last week
in new england um and
proving that it’s not a very effective
no if you can get casually arrested at
it you didn’t
hide away very well um
and she was transferred to the federal
the federal metropolitan detention
center in brooklyn
which used to host
r kelly and martin shkreli just for
little fun facts
fun facts about this i actually found
this right before the show so
uh fun facts about the metropolitan
detention center
in brooklyn describe uh an ex warden
describe the jail as one of the most
troubled prisons in the u.s
guards have been jailed for raping
inmates and accused
accused of beating them while the entire
prison lost heat and light for a week in
the depths of winter last year
fun facts about the prison that she is
now in oh and she’s also
in uh 14 day isolation because of covid
that sounds fun none of these facts
sound very fun the r kelly martin
shkreli thing
was kind of fun that’s kind of you know
that’s a that’s it
hill after that yeah it really goes down
after that so of course all of social
including yours truly and
him uh guy on left uh are also
uh also not really
we’re all waiting to see when she dies
she was the next one and she has all the
information that jeffrey epstein had
and now she has invested she probably
has more
she possibly has even more and she has
every reason to spill the beans
if she doesn’t die oh yeah and uh she
also stated that she will fully
cooperate with the investigators
yeah so she was put into quarantine
today possibly already dead
i’m saying yeah she some covid related
incident yeah that’s if if i was
if i was betting on it yeah a covid
related death
yeah related so this is uh gizlane
age just want to know how old this
she was born in 1961
okay so she’s so she’s 59.
so statistically
if she got covered she should survive it
the odds are very much in her favor you
know she’s not in her you know
70s 80s 90s you know and and she as far
as we know
maybe she has a health condition but
more than likely her the odds are pretty
overwhelming that she would survive this
so if she dies of covid then
hashtag gizlane maxwell didn’t die of
tyler rush is betting on a covid
two covets to the back of the head uh
while she slept um
yeah yeah no r.i.p in advance
um gizlane maxwell
not that she’s a wonderful person
because i mean she was right i was like
i’m not really giving her the rip she
doesn’t really
r just r just r
just r i am certain
r to gizlane maxwell
given that pre-ard for that pre-r before
she ours
uh i mean so this is someone who helped
jeffrey epstein’s pedophile island and
his abuse of
hundreds i think of of teenage girls
like i mean
i don’t know if we’re ever gonna know
yeah i mean many many many countless
teenage girls to be raped and abused
by powerful powerful people right
including possibly the president and
previous presidents and according to
one parlor user last week um
the chief justice of the united states
sure right i mean
could i i’ve heard far less
plausible things in my time
one thing one thing the one the one
person whose name keeps getting floated
that i
absolutely believe is prince andrew
well especially the way he handled it
like he first he was just gonna ignore
and i was like no you can’t ignore that
you can’t ignore the rape of children
yeah you can’t ignore international
teen rape you have to say no
or if you did it you have to really get
out in front of that you can’t just
not right cannot say anything you
you can’t just let that one slide into
the background i would definitely not
let that slide
you can’t let the kitty rape slide you
have to kind of
talk about it that’s that’s a story you
want to get ahead of that’s the story
you want to get ahead of
and especially if you didn’t do it you
definitely want to get ahead of it to
say hey listen uh
right furthest gets out there did not
rape the kids
but when you don’t say anything and then
your initial response is just sort of a
really meek response
starting to look like he might have done
it there prince andrew um
so yeah no i mean it’s it’s it’s it’s
she when she dies which is probably soon
it will be to protect people like him
uh just like jeffrey epstein’s uh didn’t
kill himself
gizlane maxwell didn’t kill herself and
probably didn’t die of covid either
right did uh do you think this is going
to make it to trial like do you think
there’s any shot yes if you elect joe
jorgensen and i
we will try our best to make sure she
makes it to trial
she won’t be i know i know i know
i know if you once you elect us we’ll
make sure
that other gizlane maxwell’s and jeff
don’t not kill themselves but yeah no
she’s not gonna make it four months
there’s no way yeah no she’s gonna make
it i
might she might already be dead
they’ll wait they’ll wait a few days
they’ll wait a few right
you can’t do it immediately yeah you
yeah you can’t
like that that would be a level of
unheard of i mean it was pretty brazen
the way they did it with epstein
it was oh uh he killed himself even
though he had just said he was in good
and there’s no camera footage and
he was in like the most secure cell but
we have no footage and no witnesses
and um also the way he did it was
really would have been hard and also um
one of the coroners uh says that it
doesn’t look like he killed himself and
he didn’t look like he killed himself
but he totally killed himself oh and we
burned his body like
immediately but he he totally did it
um judith reuter asks bpa free bottle
there’s no this bottle this water is bpa
non-carbonated made in the usa and
just like me right like we don’t have
bpas that’s not a
i don’t i believe i’m bpa-free
i’m pretty certain you’re a bpa i don’t
i’m not really 100 on what bpa is i know
it’s harmful
i don’t know if it’s like naturally
occurring in humans but if it isn’t
it’s in plastics oh then i don’t have it
right i’m bpa negative
and kosher well actually i’m not kosher
if you eat me that
is not kosher really
yeah you can’t eat jews
so speaking of eating jews
for the first time since 1996
the supreme court made rulings in july
for a week that’s nothing about eating
jews that was just a terrible segue
that was an awful segue yeah first time
since 1996 they made rulings in july
and they’re gonna have more yeah usually
like around my birthday june 28th
um that’s like their final rulings are
happening the 28th and 29th
and 27th and so forth right but there
were so many
uh they listened they heard so many uh
uh in may that they had to actually
extend out which
you don’t hear of often like completely
sort of out of the norm for them i mean
since 1996 anyway
um so they did have a pretty big week
one of these happened last tuesday
moments before our show so we didn’t get
a chance to talk about it
but i felt that it was important so
we’re going to spend a very brief amount
of time on it
okay um but last tuesday the supreme
court endorsed a month
endorsed montana tax credits that helped
pay students to attend religious
schools with chief justice roberts
a state need not subsidize private
but once a state decides to do so it
cannot disqualify some private schools
solely because they are religious
so that opens possibility for school
choice to become more prevalent
uh or or
for states to stop subsidizing private
education completely which
i know people are gonna get mad at me
and this is not an official jorgensen
cohen campaign platform
that would be my preferred outcome and
here’s why
when you open the door to state
subsidized charter schooling here’s what
you now have the state becoming the main
uh payer the main consumer of education
in private and charter schools they’re
the ones paying the bill
and if they become the ones paying the
bill now they have to do it the way
that the state says to so very quickly
these charter schools become
private in name only their
customer is the government they might
have a handful of people
who uh you know who are paying out of
pocket but the vast majority of their
are public education kids kids who who
can’t on their own afford to pay for it
and so what happens with that
and the reason they can’t afford to pay
for it is because their parents have
been robbed through the
property taxes and all the other taxes
to pay for their public education so
it’s all a shell game
but what it leads to is the state
controlling all forms of education
and eventually they’re going to make it
against the law to have private
education that isn’t paid for by the
state now all of a sudden it’s all
just public education it’s all just
government-run education
uh and they control how that education
is doled out um
and then eventually you know the one
good thing that would still exist is
you know it’s not that the teachers
unions aren’t involved and and
the the schools can be shut down uh if
they if they aren’t performing well and
that the teachers can be fired if they
aren’t performing well
once they’re getting that money and once
they’re being told what to do then the
schools say hey wait a second
you shouldn’t be able to shut us down or
fire our teachers
and now we’ve
just got government
everywhere schools are called something
else and you have destroyed
private education and the next step is
going after homeschoolers
and for those who are thinking that i’m
looking really far ahead and making a
lot of assumptions
i invite you to look at everything the
government has ever touched ever
they start with saying we’re going to
help increase access by
allowing people who can’t afford it and
they can’t afford it because we took
their money
and and we’re going to make people who
can’t afford to be able to have access
to these things
that we need then they say well because
we’re controlling who has access and
bringing these customers to these
providers we’re going to tell them how
to do their job and
then they say well since we’re telling
them how to do their job we’re going to
make sure that they don’t fail
and that they they never go under and
then one day they make it illegal for
anyone to do it outside of this
and then they take over as complete so
kind of scary but we will see how this
ends up ending
uh and then there was another thing so
yesterday in a rare unanimous vote the
supreme court ruled that members of the
electoral college
have to oh god vote have to vote for
won the popular vote in their respective
states and states are free
to remove and punish presidential
electors who speak with their pledges
to support designated candidates thereby
essentially destroying the entire
of the electoral college in the first
place matt
yes and no okay yes and no i mean the
the the i mean the electoral college
has been a rubber stamp since like you
know the second election
oh yeah of course so yeah it was the
original purpose was if they disagreed
with what the voters said they could do
but the other purpose of the electoral
college was to make sure that
large population areas weren’t dictating
all of the country right right well and
it was also that the idea was that this
was a collection
of 50 nation states who were in a
federation with each other
in a federalist system uh but that they
as individual states
chose who they wanted to be president
and you know it was you know there was
waiting based on
population uh how many votes they got uh
but it was not you know it was just
it wasn’t just oh we as an entire
country pick this person it’s
we as a collection of 50 states each
select this person so
you know this gets rid of the faithless
faithless elector
uh and just has it where you know the
um you know whoever wins their popular
vote in their state gets the
the points right um and this all stemmed
from a case out of washington
where they find several electors a
thousand dollars for attempting to place
their votes for someone other than
hillary clinton
um which
i get it i get it i get it
i get it r.i.p to those electors by the
right um justice kagan wrote the opinion
and uh everybody but one signed on to it
and in it she wrote the constitution’s
text in the nation’s history both
allowing a state to enforce an elector’s
pledge to support his party’s nominee
and the state voters choice for
um and i
i kind of understand this ruling
the state party is selecting these
people to to be
a member of the electoral college to be
an electorate for your state
it’s supposed to be an honor and your
party picks you and says hey we want you
to do this they don’t want you to change
your mind
the reason you are being given that now
maybe not originally is because it
wasn’t it’s an
honor um and they don’t want somebody
rogue um but like catherine bernard did
in georgia
right didn’t she yeah that was
that was her first you know real
exposure in in politics in georgia was
she was the faithless ron paul
elector and uh i thought that was
somebody from texas that did that
no she wanted to do it and they
basically did everything they could to
yeah that was your whole thing yeah
somebody in texas did do that
in 16. yeah um so this didn’t say that
the states
oh wait no this said that the states
actually that they have to do it they
can’t decide for themselves they have to
force the electors to vote for whoever
won the popular vote
of their state of their state okay which
basically which i talked about later but
we’ll just get into it now
but the national popular vote interstate
should be crushed by this well it should
be crushed by the fact that it’s an
interstate compact which the
explicitly says is not to be allowed
not a treaty i read all the arguments
yeah yeah but it’s a compact not a
an agreement between states outside of
the federal government
agreed but
no matter what the i think that that’s
why they kind of made this ruling
to say no like just so we don’t have to
that case yes you have to vote for who
wins the popular vote
in your state in your state ah
instead of the popular vote overall i
think that i i
i don’t know i haven’t spoken with
anybody on the supreme court recently
or ever so you didn’t do your job the
notes you didn’t you didn’t contact the
source for your show notes is what
you’re saying
i did not know i only i went to uh their
reasonings and i read all of them
and i did not get you didn’t ask them
what they meant
right i did not ask them why whatever um
whatever i i was not able to get that
great why answer from clarence thomas
who also
yeah wrote again uh the suddenly very
clearance thomas who went like 20 years
without writing anything
now every single decision he writes
pretty much almost uh
and he wrote that is powers related to
electors reside with states to the
extent that the constitution does not
remove or restrict that power
thus to invalidate a state law there
must be something in the federal
constitution that deprives the states of
the power to enact such a measure
so basically what he’s doing here is
he’s going to
the 10th amendment and saying look this
is on the states they can do this
now if more of the supreme court would
go to the 10th amendment
more often we may not have this show
we’d have a smaller government yeah if
we if we had if the if the states were
if the federal government was limited
limited to its enumerated powers
like really limited to its enumerated
we’d have a much smaller government
we have a government that the supreme
court routinely says
that kind of sounds like commerce uh so
yeah they can limit that
they can control that but that’s no
commerce meant
goods and services traded across state
that was it and when it said regulate
back then the term regulate meant make
more regular
allow it to flow freely regulate didn’t
mean what they’ve turned regulate to
mean right now
just control now yeah yeah right yes
now of course the court’s opinion does
not extend to
every scenario that could
pop up um and in it in her
uh in her opinion kagan listed a few
uh she said if the winning presidential
candidate dies after election day but
before the electoral college
casts its votes states can’t necessarily
force electors
to cast ballots for a dead person
okay so
situations like that she also wrote that
the state restrictions
on electors couldn’t violate the equal
protection clause or impose additional
qualifications for
presidential candidates and even though
she didn’t like say
anything she didn’t go into depth on
california recently had a case that was
shut down by
uh scotus uh saying that
all potential candidates had to release
their tax returns
so that is required is 35 years old born
in america
i think that’s it right uh 35 uh
35 years old um born in america natural
born citizen
and uh you have to have resided here for
at least the last seven years i believe
yeah something like that and it’s to
prevent you know uh
the fun fact that was added because
uh the greatest concern at that time
when the revolution happened
and then when the constitution was added
the most popular person
in the us was the archbishop of
the the head of the anglican church and
there was some serious concern that
people would elect
the head of the anglican church which
would essentially bring america back
into the fold of the british crown
and so uh uh and so they introduced that
saying that
they had to actually live in the u it
had had to be born in the u.s
uh and had to live here for seven years
um but and then also they have to be
35. uh so um
yeah so that’s the only restrictions
that can be put on uh for someone to
qualify to run for president
right so when california says all
presidential candidates to be on the
ballot need to release their tax returns
they can’t do that you can’t say that
right exactly
they cannot say that so everybody is
assuming she
uh i didn’t put this in the notes but
she was making a lot of pop culture
which when i think of justice kagan i’m
not thinking somebody who
can make pop culture references and she
put it in the opinion
and they were well-placed did she
reference kanye west running for
uh this was before um
oh actually well i don’t know when she
wrote the opinion it was released on
monday so i’m assuming she wasn’t
she wasn’t last minute writing the
saturday night uh but she did reference
uh the show hamilton and she referenced
i don’t remember the other thing she
referenced some other show that’s
we referenced juice world
yes we did but i’m also not in the
supreme court
which is accumulated references a lot
well i do um and i go
follow me on tick tock at literally
spike cohen
yeah so that should bring into the
national popular vote
interstate compact because i can’t see
how it can continue
i don’t see how it can continue either
and again i’ve always thought it was i
didn’t see how i could continue before
but i think it’s always been i think
it’s always been on incredibly
shaky ground because again the
constitution says that the states can’t
create a compact
can’t create an agreement between them
that without involving the federal
government because ultimately what could
happen then
is that you could have the states create
their own little interstate agreements
that uh not all states would be included
and would be an end run around the
constitutional process
which is what this is the whole purpose
of the interstate compact
is to create a compact enter the states
between the states
bypassing the constitutional process
and you’re not supposed to be able to do
that whether you support the national
popular vote whether you support
keeping the electoral college in place
whether you support some other system
ranked choice voting whatever
this is the way you’re supposed to go
through it so speaking of the order of
things and how you’re supposed to go
on this show the very next thing we do
on this show
is the personal injury attorney chris
reynolds attorney at law anchor colin
moment matt
that’s the order of things we’re a
nation of laws
that is the order of things that we
wrote out in the
bylaws nation yeah and there’s no if
some other
hosts of the show decided outside of the
show notes
to make their own order of things
that would be illegal on this show
jason who just lost the game
um so we have uh
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zach taylor of uh drunken disorderly
i believe that’s right
hey spike i’ve heard you talk about
doing away with the va
which on a surface level is a disabled
veteran i’m all for
putting our our health care more into
the private sector
but my immediate question is how does
make up for all of the doctoral training
that the va provides
because every clinic is staffed by
a doctor and then
basically doctors in training who are
working under that doctor
and without that ability how are those
people going to
get into the medical world in a timely
fashion so that we can start lowering
the cost of
goods um have a good one
hey well thanks for that question so uh
i recently i i for those who don’t know
i have ms so i go to doctors a lot
and thankfully it’s stable it’s been
stable for many years but i do go to
doctors a lot to manage the situation to
you know check my levels because i’m on
a treatment and all that stuff
and usually when i go to doctor’s
there are trainees there uh sometimes
more than one
um so i don’t see any reason why you
couldn’t continue to have that
uh with the doctors outside of the va
and have them in the
with private sector doctors maybe there
would be more of them that would be good
if there are more of them
you know they always ask is it okay if
you know these people witness and i go
yeah because we need more doctors um so
yeah no i i think
i think that could be met uh by
allowing the medical professionals to
continue having
uh you know people apprenticing under
them and for those who don’t know the
the jorgensen cohen plan for the va it
costs more money
per patient per veteran to administer
the va than it would cost to just give
directly to veterans and let them
the health care that they need through
private insurance and of course we know
private insurance
gives much better outcomes than the va
does which is
va treats its patients like essentially
third class citizens
so if private insurance and medicare are
first-class citizens
medicaid and some of the state run
programs are second-class citizens
the va are they’re treating their
patients like third class citizens it is
what we would expect from a nationally
health care system not just nationally
paid for but nationally managed
government health care system and so
simply replacing it with giving the
money directly to the veterans so they
can get the care they need
even including giving continuing to give
them disability payments and everything
it would still cost billions less every
year than uh
uh than our current the current system
which causes
terrible terrible outcomes among
veterans especially disabled veterans
the the epidemic of suicide and
and among veterans the epidemic of
homelessness among veterans because
they aren’t getting the mental health
and chronic pain treatment that they
need so they often turn
to self-medicating uh getting into you
know drugs that
lead them to have even worse problems
and and up on the streets and everything
else and it’s directly a result of
the va um and uh and all that so that’s
the uh
that is our plan for the for the va
uh real quick before you hit play on old
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um takashi i saw on facebook that you
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you for joining money waters
and uh so our next question is from
timothy johnson
and what is oh that’s a picture of
timothy okay it adds a little picture to
them cool
all right timothy johnson
hey spike a man this is tim um the main
attraction to the libertarian party to
is gun rights so i was wondering what
your guys’s uh everyday carry
and favorite range toy is and why
thanks well unfortunately i don’t have
an everyday carry because i lost every
single weapon and bit of ammunition that
i have
at that tragic day at sea
r.i.p my guns um but my favorite range
toy prior to that happening
uh was a uh desert eagle 357.
um so if you picture being able to
you you’re carrying a a pistol that
weighs like six pounds
so it’s very very heavy uh and it was
originally designed to be able to fire a
50 caliber
magnum uh round without blowing your
wrist off
and so it’s so heavy when you fire
something like a 357
imagine firing a a a a 357 magnum round
and having less recoil than a lot of
nine millimeters have
um so you just with the 357 magnum
um so i would say that’s definitely my
favorite uh
range toy back when when i could do that
before that
right back before the building accident
the day of the purpose
my favorite everyday carry is um the
walther ppts m2
um comfortable easy to conceal uh the
range toy is the cz sp01
yeah uh it’s got a two pound trigger
amazingly accurate just fun just
so much see now i gotta google cz spo
too hold on one second
sp01 sp01
oh so you like the compact stuff okay
yeah i like something that’s extremely
heavy but has no wrinkle
like i mean literally it’s like the
opposite of most pistols most pistols
are very very light
have a decent amount of recoil and a
desert eagle is just like this
it’s like you know like a weight that
you’re holding like a dumbbell weight
but then you know i mean there’s nothing
to it um
so i mean the cz is
unbelievably accurate but it’s but it’s
so you can’t easily conceal it which
that’s why
the walther oh yeah walters or yeah yeah
right the walther’s just you can slide
that anywhere and nobody would ever see
it yeah well i
certainly wouldn’t because
one of the best things that’s going to
happen when joe jorgensen becomes
president is that the atf will be ended
and all
gun laws will be no longer enforced
and so we finally will be able to get
back the guns that we lost at sea
uh i think even wagner says
if only everyone knew that every lake in
america is a 90
gun yeah yeah every lake in america is
10 h2o and 90
ar-15 that’s right you know everyone
we want to end that formula because that
contributes to the
so next question is from samantha and
hello mr cohen uh my name is samantha
one of the issues that gets brought up
when speaking to people who are either
on the fence or
not exactly libertarian is
talking about you and dr jorgensen’s
policy on getting rid of the federal
minimum wage standard so
my question for you is could you please
go into detail
on what that actually means for people
that were to be accomplished sure
absolutely so we’ve seen what happens
minimum wage laws are introduced uh a
lot of smaller businesses especially the
ones that they’re talking about right
now they’re talking about
15 an hour well the reason that big
business cronies and their owned media
are pushing 15 an hour minimum wage
is because they know they can afford it
but their smaller competitors
cannot afford it so you will have many
businesses that have to
uh draw down and fire people or even go
out of business
if they’re suddenly told that they have
to almost double
what they’re paying people um but again
amazon can afford that walmart can
afford it netflix can afford it
uh amazon can afford it i already said
amazon all these companies can afford it
and many other companies like facebook
and google they’re already paying their
employees you know they have skilled
laborers they’re paying them much more
than that for the most part
anyway it’s the mom and pop shops that
can’t afford it it’s the
small furniture stores that can’t afford
it it’s the small restaurants
that can’t afford it everyone else the
big ones the big boys can afford
it and they would love to lose that
smaller competition
but here’s what happens so those
companies go out of business and then
when the minimum wage goes up so does
the cost of living it goes up
that much more because now all the
providers know that everyone’s walking
around with that much more money and so
the cost of living goes up across the
board which disproportionately affects
the people who make the least so minimum
wage laws actually
disproportionately harm the very people
that it’s supposed to be helping the
poor because what happens is when those
companies go out of work
now the people that we’re working for
them are making the real minimum wage
which is the zero dollars an hour that
you make when you aren’t working
so here’s the real problem because we
have to look at there is a problem here
the problem is that people
an increasing number of americans aren’t
making enough money to pay for their
cost of living
and there’s two reasons for that number
one their wages aren’t going up enough
a natural reaction of the market and
number two is that the cost of living
keeps going up faster than their wage
increases are going up
the way you deal with the first part of
that problem is to create
more demand for their labor so we have
supply of labor because of businesses
going out of business and we have not
much demand for their labor
which means the value of their labor
goes down
to whatever the minimum is the way you
change that
is by removing those barriers and
burdens and taxes that the big business
cronies have put in place
via their bought and paid for
legislators and the regulators that go
through the revolving door
of the regulatory agencies back to the
businesses back to the regulatory
agencies you get rid of all of those
barriers that the cronies have put in
to stop competitors from working their
way up and disrupting and threatening
their market share you remove those
barriers so that businesses and job
creators can thrive across every sector
of the economy
and the number of jobs available goes
through the roof
the demand for labor goes up the supply
for labor stays the same or actually
starts to reduce
because more and more people already
have good paying jobs
and that will necessarily cause the
the benefits everything to go up because
if you want to get someone who
works you got to get them from someone
else you got to try to get them before
someone else does or get them
from someone that’s already actively
employing them that makes wages go up
as a function of the actual market as
opposed to
an imposition on the market by
government which means it’s sustainable
and it will go up faster than the cost
of living the other part is that cost of
living increase well that’s simple you
end the fed
because the fed has been leading has
been creating
the cost of living increases by
devaluing your currency over
time uh by printing out endless reams
of federal reserve notes that it gives
away to big businesses
and wall street and the airlines and the
hotels and you know and everyone in
uh whenever they feel like it and also
lending that money to itself to the
federal government
in the form of buying treasury bonds
that you have to pay off with interest
every day a series of new 40-year loans
is taken out in your name that you
your children their children and even
their children will have to pay with
but in addition to that by printing out
endless reams
of the same federal reserve notes that
you have in your pocket
and then your wallet and in your bank
account that you use to buy and
buy things that you need every single
day by printing out endless reams of
it reduces the value by inflating the
money supply it reduces the value
of each bit of that currency including
the one that you have
which is why in 1913 when the federal
reserve was created
two things happened afterwards number
one we went to war
and have never been out of war since and
number two
the cost of living which used to go up
and down with supply and demand and the
equilibrium of the market now just
steadily goes up anywhere from
three to ten percent on average uh to
the point to where now
the uh the reserve note that you have in
your pocket right now or your wallet or
bank account or whatever
your your dollar bill your reserve note
is worth two cents on the dollar what it
was worth in 1913
when the federal reserve was introduced
imagine if your money was worth
50 times what it is now that’s the
not not minimum wages so that is how we
deal with that we fixed the core of the
which is the bad policies of the
republicans and democrats that were
uh via bought and paid for politicians
uh to the behest and to the direct
benefit of billionaire cronies and to
the detriment of literally everyone else
i don’t think i could add a single thing
to that have you seen uh
have you seen the simpsons meme
with joe jorgensen and american voters
oh and where it’s everything’s stapled
behind her or whatever
yeah yeah yeah i was tagged in something
on that and i was like
i decided not to comment on it uh i told
the person who posted it was like if you
answers to these just text me i’ll give
them to you i’m not going to do a
facebook thing because
i hate doing those um
but uh and she didn’t um well and that’s
why i’ve been doing series of
videos explaining these different
concepts and so i’ll be making ones on
minimum wage on the federal reserve on
on you know how do we get wages
increased how we how do we create jobs
all of these things are you know i mean
there’s a there’s a road map for how it
is and and that the long
the long and short of it is we take the
power out of the hands of the
republicans and the democrats
and the bureaucrats and their cronies
that have bought and paid for them
and we put it back in the hands of the
people we put the power back in the
hands that’s why we say that you are the
is because if we put the power back in
your hands we put the wealth back in
your hands you will be able to come up
with better
solutions to those problems and we’ll be
getting getting rid of the problem so
you have fewer solutions
fewer problems to have to solve in the
first place so you can focus on
and growing and prospering and thriving
so our next question comes from uh
john winshower i hope i said that right
john winshower hello please talk about
how justin amash’s legislation to
end qualified immunity will help
police reform in america and advance
thank you and have a good one hey thank
you john not sure what happened there
but uh yeah so this is an easy one so
qualified immunity is the ridiculous
legal doctrine that says that police
or that police and politicians and
government officials
uh are held harmless to the damages that
they cause
when they infringe upon the rights of
others and they can’t be sued
if they decide that what they did was
so imagine again going into court and
saying your honor i know that i’ve been
charged with murder
but i think what i did was perfectly
reasonable and the and the judge goes
well if you think it was reasonable then
i’ll have to throw the the charges out
matt one time matt wright uh did a
clinic on the history of
uh of qualified immunity and the long
and the short of it
is that it was initially introduced in
the 50s and 60s so that the government
brutalize uh the civil rights protesters
it was strengthened in the 70s 60s and
so that they could brutalize anti-war
it was then strengthened further in the
80s and 90s so that they could brutalize
victims of the war on drugs
and it was it was strengthened to its
most most recent final form
in 2001 so it could be used to brutalize
the victims of the war on terror
and uh it is a a powerful way of
government to not be held accountable
and so
here’s how that plays out derek chovin
before he murdered george floyd
had killed well killed had 17 previous
complaints against him
including wrongful death complaints
that’s correct matt right
yeah yeah so he’s potentially 17 right
yeah 17. yeah and including wrongful
death complaints which means
he potentially murdered other people and
the minneapolis police department when
they looked
at derek chovin they did what police
departments do
around this country when they look at
the bad apples in their bunch
they looked at him and went this guy
sucks he’s a terrible cop
he’s causing all sorts of damage he’s
hurting people we need to get him off
the streets
but if we do that we’re gonna have to
fight these labor unions these police
unions it’s gonna cost us a fortune
a ton of money and resources and there’s
not a guarantee that we’ll be able to
get rid of them
and he’s not costing us anything by
staying on the force because of
qualified immunity none of us can get
so we’ll just leave him on the force and
eventually he’s probably gonna end up
murdering someone or doing some terrible
and we can charge him with a crime and
then we can finally get rid of them more
and well yeah
and then you also have to thank the sure
they’re gonna think about getting rid of
um but even if they so if they wanted to
get rid of them they have to do a
cost-benefit analysis and they can’t
they do
right and i mean if you think the guy i
don’t have his name because i don’t have
that week’s notes out in front of me
obviously but uh the cop
who stayed outside of the parkland
shooting for 10 minutes
oh yeah well he he got fired from his
he got fired from his job for not going
and then three years later two years
he got his job back with full back with
back pain
right so qualified immunity
is one of the many problems that you
have with the police the other one
is the police unions themselves because
the police unions are the ones who are
all of these officers now it doesn’t fix
every problem but here’s what ending
qualified immunity does
now those police departments and those
police unions
they’ll have a vested interest in
getting rid of bad abuse of cops
because if for no other reason then they
don’t want to get sued
and then that will include the unions
because the last thing the unions want
is to lose all their money and resources
uh constantly having to put pay for
defense attorneys for all the bad cops
so that
encourages the people that right now are
yeah no leave them on it encourages them
to actively
root out bad cops not just punish cops
and get rid of them when they do
but actively look and try to deter
people who would do bad things from even
joining the force in the first place
imagine police departments who are
actively looking for anyone who might
possibly infringe upon your rights or
harm you or abuse you in some way
imagine if now they are actively saying
no we can’t get sued it’s going to cost
his fortune
let’s get rid of these people and that
enforces and
that punishes bad policing but it also
good policing not infringing upon
rights and in fact now the police
departments and police unions are going
to look
at laws that lead to unnecessary police
which increases the rates and potentials
for lawsuits
and they’re going to actively campaign
to say hey let’s end the war on drugs
let’s end these things
so that the only time that police are
interacting with people is to protect
lives and rights and property what we’re
absolutely necessarily
needed for so it changes everything
around instead of incentivizing bad
it encourages police to actually be on
the front lines of trying to stop all of
it to begin with
the only thing i would worry about is
when you get rid of qualified immunity
and suddenly
everybody can get everybody can now get
for what they’ve done
in short like i’m worried about like qi
well i’m not cause i’m not in government
and if i am a government
i’m not gonna do things that lead to go
ahead right but yeah no i’m worried
about like qualified immunity insurance
i don’t know what they would call it
but like qualified immunity insurance
where police officers will say
i want uh insurance in case i get sued
you know acting outside of the breadth
of my responsibilities
and everybody’s like yeah that’s a great
idea up until you realize that
that’s just included in their payment
and insurance companies
are only going to do the insurance if
they think they’re going to make more
money at it
than what they’re paying out absolutely
which is why now you’ll have yet a third
group of people
the uh the uh you know government
malpractice insurance companies
pushing for changes along with the
police unions who don’t want their
their members to be paying these
ridiculous uh you know these ever
uh uh insurance uh malpractice insurance
or whatever they would call like you
said abuse insurance what
qi insurance whatever they would call it
um so there’s a vested interest now and
now you’ve created yet a third group of
people who because they want a profit
they’re going to say hey whoa let’s try
to keep this number down
and so let’s push for policies in the
same way that you know car insurance
will push for policies and changes that
they think will lower
the rate of accidents so that they don’t
have to pay out as much
you will now have uh these malpractice
insurance or whatever they call it abuse
insurance or whatever companies
saying let’s get rid of the war on drugs
leads to
much more police interactions uh and so
as a result of much more police
we now have you know more potential for
uh you know uh allegations of abuse and
harm and so forth so let’s end let’s get
rid of anything that’s not necessary
so they would it would cause them to
push for
better policing and better interactions
and fewer
interactions between the police and the
public so it incentivizes
us going in the right direction it’s not
perfect it’s also only one tool we also
have to end the war on drugs we have to
no knock raids we have to re end civil
uh asset forfeiture we have to end the
1033 military industrial
uh military surplus program you know
there’s a lot of stuff we have to do we
have to get rid of man
mandatory minimum sentencing there’s all
sorts of things that need to be done
but that one thing qualified immunity is
possibly the biggest single one
so we have one more question and did the
i know there was someone that was saying
yeah that’s him
this account got banned so that’s his
backup account so ike sanchez is takashi
yeah ah okay uh and so we have no
because that was already on there before
no well yeah but i didn’t see the name
takashi on the list so i assumed that he
didn’t do it
okay but he said in the comments i’m
like sanchez
i was kicked off oh okay all right cool
so here is takashi’s question
hey guys so this is mainly a question
for spike but matt feel free to jump in
if you have any comment on this
uh i’m sorry if y’all have answered this
before but with the recent purge of all
the book boys on facebook i’ve been out
of the loop
so the cnn boys
the cnn boys i was wondering how y’all
feel about the task force
created by bill barr against the
boogaloo boys in antifa
it’s uh it’s a little worrying you know
knowing his uh
his track record with waco siege and
ruby ridge but uh
yeah just curious i’m going to let you
i’ve been answering all these questions
first so i’m going to let you do this
one first
so for anybody who doesn’t know uh late
last month i think it was the 26th
don’t quote me on that but i think it
was the 26th uh they
announced that there was a tax task
force to go after
uh members of antifa and members of the
uh if you read any article about it the
far right extremist boogaloos
um and they said that they were a reason
for a lot of the violence at
the protests um
we talked about the antifa thing briefly
on the show a few weeks ago
and with the cnn boys
we can say the same thing
antifa isn’t an actual organization the
cnn boys
are not an actual organization
to say that you’re going after antifa
you are now going after anybody who is
anti-fascist if
you come out and you say and you ask
them are you anti-fascist
and you say yes technically at that
they can lock you up because of this um
same thing with the cnn boys um that
were added to that list they’re to the
best of my knowledge i have not been
invited to join
uh the cnn boys even though i’m
i would have joined many of the groups
that i was invited to
but failed to because of personal
um but there is no like
formal group so anybody out there who’s
wearing a
hawaiian shirt or a cnn shirt or
a pink polo i think is now yeah pink
polo is now the next
thing polo is now an approved uh and
you’re out there
the cul-de-sac caucasians in st louis um
if you’re out there and you are wearing
any of these things that
are known as being a cnn boy
approved apparel they can technically
just come and arrest you like
there is no real foundation for any of
this and
it’s sort of like the war on terror
where they are saying
we’re just going after terror we’re
going after an idea and a concept that
has no real definition
and the reason we’re doing it is so that
we can deny them due process we can say
this is a growing problem
cnn boys haven’t killed anybody
no there was one cnn boy who killed two
police officers that’s literally the
extent of the violence that they’ve
and the violence that has happened in
these protests have happened as a result
of police departments
corralling peaceful unarmed protesters
small areas and then brutalizing them
with with tear gas and pepper spray and
everything else
and making a large crowd of people very
very angry
uh and confused and scared and that
creates the the
violence while at the same time they
left the entire rest of the cities
uh completely unpleased which encouraged
uh people who have nothing to do with
or boo boys or anything else they’re
just looters they’re just people who
took advantage of a situation that could
go in
and steal stuff um and and and raid
businesses and do whatever
um and so that’s all right i have to i
have to interrupt you nate fry’s
said can they start dressing like
yeah if they call i love the idea they
call themselves cnn
they dress like politicians uh and you
know uh they they carry guns but they
say that you know it that
they wrap it in a in you know in a sheet
of paper that they’ve signed so they say
i’m just carrying laws
um you know i i think they could really
go with this i just want to show you
this photo that i shared on my
uh on my uh spike cohen on my politician
this is the the cnn boys in action they
are there with black lives matters
protesting the murder of brianna taylor
and duncan lemp who were both killed in
no rot no knock raids
uh in the last uh well brianna taylor
was killed a couple months ago
and duncan left was killed what last
year earlier this year
no that was a couple of months ago okay
yeah so within the last couple months
they were both murdered by uh police who
literally just broke into their homes
and opened fire on them um and so you
black lives matter and boog boys
protesting together no one was killed no
one was harmed
and guess what also didn’t happen the
police didn’t bother these folks you
know why
because they kept to themselves they
shared their first amendment right
to free speech and they were heavily
armed and you probably shouldn’t shoot
tear gas at people that are heavily
armed you’ll also notice
that the protests recently haven’t been
as brutalized
as they were previously do you know why
that is because an increasing number of
are armed you have black panthers and
and cnn boys and and just people who are
buying guns and coming to the protests
and it turns out when you put them in
the front
the police don’t want to start anything
as much we saw during the lockdown
protests and during the anti-uh
um gun gun control protest in richmond
virginia back in february
when you got a bunch of really armed
people the police don’t want to start a
fight with them
no one would want to start a fight with
a large group of armed people
no one no one would there’d be no reason
to do that uh unless they were being
aggressive which they are not they’re
simply saying we’re here to exercise our
and to share our opinions and uh even if
we’re doing so angrily that’s all we’re
uh there was another uh video that i
of several hundred uh black people who
marched on stone mountain georgia in uh
in georgia it’s a big confederate
monument they were marching there
because they wanted to you know they
wanted it removed and they were
uh they wanted it to be you know removed
and replaced with something else
whether you agree with what they did or
not no one was harmed
no one was killed and the police let
them do their thing
because they all had guns and lots of
and that’s why when we say the second
amendment wasn’t written for deer
and the second amendment protects the
first amendment what that means is
people tend to let you do your thing if
there’s a bunch of you and you have guns
and you’re not hurting anyone they tend
to just let you go ahead and
have at it because they don’t want to
start a fight with you
because why would they
so i think that answered the question
yeah i think that answered the question
i think i think we got takashi’s
question i think we got that in
and we thank you for all your questions
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occupied and speaking of
occupied that was so bad
speaking of occupied matt i heard
some stuff happen down in florida
with occupational licensing
that was so bad but yes stuff did stuff
did happen here in florida last week
florida governor ron desantis who’s
about 50 50 in my mind signed into law
the occupational freedom and opportunity
act that will loosen or abolish
occupational licensing regulations
across more than 30 professions wow
yeah big uh desantis commenting on the
new law
said for two years we’ve pushed for
regulatory reforms in florida’s
occupational licensing system to remove
barriers for individuals pursuing their
professional aspirations
today with legislative and public
support we’re delivering
on those reforms with a comprehensive
and meaningful bill
that will save thousands of floridians
both time and money for years to come
which this is a huge huge bill
this is a very large like the scope of
the importance of this bill
is very large because according to the
institute of justice
which is a great organization that deals
with this sort of thing
uh they said that this law repeals more
occupational licensing laws than any
licensing reform ever passed by any
other state oh wow
by the way we were talking about
barriers to entry these are one of those
barriers to entry occupational licensing
laws that if you want to like
you know do some basic thing like food
service or cutting
you know mowing lawns or or doing
handyman work or whatever
you have to spend tens of thousands of
in some cases to get
allowed to do that right then you get
taxed and everything else on top of that
but you have to pay
for permission to do business for
no reason right so
all told 30 30 different uh
this repeals or reforms over 30
different licenses including but uh
including by reducing required
educational hours for
certain licenses and some of the
highlights of this bill we’re going to
be going through a couple right here
um waiving the requirements of the
commercial driver license for military
service members with similar training
and experience which means if you’ve
already had the training you don’t need
to go
you don’t need to go through it yeah
right exempting all hair braiders
including african style hair braiders
nail technicians hair rappers body
wrappers makeup artists
boxing announcers and boxing time
keepers from being required to obtain a
and related news you had to have a
license to be a
boxing announcer or boxing timekeeper
right i did not read all the way to the
end of some of these so those last two i
was like what
um creating universal recognition for
barbers and cosmetologists licensed in
other states that’s a big one
that’s a big that’s a big one i’ve
talked to a lot of
patrick mahomes last year where he flew
in his barber from kansas city
for the super bowl to get all of his
boys on his team haircuts
and that guy was gonna have to pay like
a huge fine
um reducing required educational hours
for cosmetology specialists
and full barbers licenses reforming
reducing or narrowing
licensing requirements for landscape
architects diet coaches
that’s a big one we’re going to talk
about that in a second certain types of
subcontractors alarm system installers
geologists geologists right
because you wouldn’t think that going
through all of the schooling that you go
through to call yourself a geologist
would be enough
and preventing the state from suspending
licenses over
unpaid student loans that’s huge
huge that is big yeah
that is a big one um the dietitians and
they’re now going to be able to work
without fear of being targeted by sting
operations and threatened with jail time
which yes have happened here uh simply
for the supposed crime of giving out
about healthy eating so i’m going to do
a thing
i have to look at this because we
actually have links in our in our
for this show
that yeah so it’s a floor state of
florida a woman named
heather koch del castillo of fort walton
she she is giving dietary and
nutritional advice
she was fined
she was threatened with fines up to a
thousand dollars and a year
in prison
for getting
giving like these are the people that
like you know follow me on instagram for
more healthy healthy
recipes and like they want you to you
know hire them to
explain like how you can eat more
healthily and how you can live a
healthier life
you’re in jail for that eat less burgers
like me saying that
i would have needed a license yeah well
to to say it and
and charge someone and charge someone to
tell tell them to eat less burgers
now you can legally donate money to
muddy waters
after we have told you to eat fewer
burgers that’s right
because that is absolutely correct if i
say eat more salad and less burgers and
and for that small tip you can go to
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hit the old donate button and uh
pick any of those three perfectly
preferably one of the two on the right
um you could uh then uh
be paying me for that great great
included in the law about the dietitians
it says any person who provides
information wellness recommendations
or advice concerning nutrition to do so
a license as long as they do not provide
those services to individuals
under the direct care of a physician for
medical reasons
or advertise themselves as medical
let me just say not a doctor
yeah we are not doctors and if you’re
under the care
of a physician you can should consult
um and if what they say conflicts with
what we said
if your doctor tells you not to eat more
salads and fewer burgers
and pizza i guess you have to listen to
or get a second opinion from a different
or find a new doctor
right um it also includes a provision
preventing florida cities from and i’m
i’m such a fan of this uh from banning
food trucks or requiring
operators to obtain an additional local
license or pay additional fees in order
to vend which means that
that’s big i mean florida tons of food
trucks around here many of them
are terrible but some of them are really
really good
um now when the really really good ones
are in town they don’t need to get the
uh the tampa license in order to do it
they can just
drive over from orlando or from sarasota
wherever right this next one i have to
read this
this is insane it also got rid of the
need for a license to interior decorate
which up until now required six years of
education and experience
and a two-year apprenticeship to say
that couch would look good there i think
you really need to have a clock on this
interior decorating yeah
eight years of schooling and
i can’t even imagine what you would have
to spend
do you think any do you think the
established interior decorators had
anything to do with that rule
eight years to be an interior decorator
big big interior decorating big really
big interior at it again uh
as long as it takes to become a doctor
right that’s how long it takes for you
to become an interior decorator in
florida you’re your decorator in florida
right wow yep
now according to the institute for
justice a
conservative measure of the economic
value loss
due to these regulations totaled nearly
million dollars oh that’s that’s very
all told because of licensing all
florida economy
may lose 11.6 billion in miss
allocated resources annually that sounds
more like it
um yeah this isn’t hundreds of millions
of dollars being left on the table this
billions or tens of billions of dollars
every year being left on the table
because and this is what we talk about
cronies put regulations in place to make
it harder for new
actors to come into the market and
threaten their market share what does
that do if you’re not
already established if you don’t already
have an established source of income
you’re just not able to do anything you
have to go work for someone else you
have to go
live on the social safety net you have
to go live on financial assistance you
have to go
you know do bit jobs you can’t do
anything for yourself
because you can’t afford the cost of
trying to do it
or the time taken away from other things
to try to do it
so perfect example so what an
absolutely great i mean this is great
like i mean i it’s not often i i
uh you know it’s not often that uh we
get to praise
members of the government um in this
case like
is it perfect no it’s not but this
is a huge step a
huge huge step towards what
the libertarian future is um yeah it’s a
huge step in allowing people to find
their own to be able to
do business without going out of
business because they can’t afford it
and the institute for justice has said
that they believe that because of
florida passing this law many other
states are going to copy it
yeah and that this is going to become
like the backbone of all of it which
that’s going to help out every other
state which in turn will help out
everybody in the economy in the nation
and then it will spread out from there
yeah your mouth to god’s ears that this
becomes like a standard thing
uh you know across across the states
it’ll make our job easier when we get
elected to the white house because
we are going to be saying that these
kinds of rules are a violation of the
first amendment it’s a violation of your
to try to associate with others and try
to create a business
uh it goes well outside of what
government should be doing in terms of
protecting the public uh it has nothing
to do with that this doesn’t
protect there’s no protection of the
public of someone having to go to
going having to spend school and
apprenticeship for eight years to
interior decorate
as um where did that comment go david
mcnitt says you can go through that
education and still think it’s a good
idea to hang beads in a doorway
um exactly yeah exactly it doesn’t
actually create
taste it just it just makes uh it just
makes the uh
makes it more expensive it makes it more
expensive it gives you fewer options and
it makes it harder for people to
move ahead in life we want a much more
dynamic market that comes from just
letting people do it you can do this
okay great do it
right do it that’s great do it you can’t
hurt people you can’t
you can’t you know you mow lawn’s great
okay you can’t run over people with your
everyone already knows that like there’s
no reason for them to be getting
involved what are you teaching the
lawnmower guy
there’s nothing they’re learning now
they want to be the best lawn mower in
the game
because they want you to you know use
their lawn mowing service instead of
someone else they have a vested interest
in providing the best
uh value um and they’re not going to
provide they’re going to be less likely
to provide the best value if they’re one
of the only games in town because they
know they can just
provide they can just do whatever they
want and you know they’re they’re one of
the few people
that you can hire so you make service
better by
adding more providers which makes
everyone step their game up so it’s not
just about at that point protecting the
public it’s about
them getting excellence in service
because you’re making the consumer king
by allowing them to have as many choices
as possible so and to that end
joe jorgensen and i again are running a
campaign to set america free
and we will be in orlando florida for
the libertarian party convention
uh which started today but it will go on
sunday the 12th and so i will be there
uh doing various speaking things i’ll be
hosting the panel on gun rights on
saturday morning that matt has to be at
and uh i will be speaking at a luncheon
on friday
i’m not sure what i’m doing thursday or
sunday other than just hanging out with
people i am going to be setting up some
uh zoom rallies uh for all the online
this year because of the pandemic the
majority probably a large majority of
the delegates are not going to be there
in person
they’re going to be online isn’t there a
thing on sunday
a thing don’t have the schedule and hang
there’s like a rally on sunday i believe
oh are you not giving a speech at that
fair i can if i i wasn’t sure if you
not like i don’t know if joe or i are
giving speeches there i think that’s
just a rally i think we’ll be there but
i don’t know for giving speeches if i
wanted to i’ll certainly do it
i’ll ask you after the show don’t worry
okay uh so
okay cool yeah so uh we’ll be doing that
and we will be uh
we will be uh we’ll be there at the at
the uh
at the convention and then i will be uh
on the 20th
to the 23rd i’ll be in chicago or not
chicago i’ll be in
uh illinois doing a bunch of stuff there
uh and i will be at the capital of
illinois where the libertarian party of
illinois will be submitting all of our
ballot applications and everything else
i’ll be there along with a bunch of
other local
and regional and statewide candidates
for office
and then i will be on the 24th to the
i will be at the libertarian party of
ohio’s convention i will be the keynote
and i will be auctioning off i will be
a plush my little pony spike the dragon
that they will be auctioning off so if
you ever wanted that
be in ohio on the 25th
oh and on the 16th
oh god so on the 16th uh
i will be having a discussion with
trapped chris brown of traffic chris
brown of
about politics about politics because
this is 2020
right because if anybody had that on
their bingo card please let us know
yeah we will if you had the vice
candidate of the third largest political
party in the united states getting into
a discussion about politics
a heated discussion about politics with
the lead singer of trapped
let us listen let us know bring your
bingo cards to convention
and if you see me i’ll give you a
sticker we will definitely give you a
sticker for that
uh soon after i will be uh we have we
are in works
uh talking about i will be getting into
a a symposium
about family law and its effects on the
social safety nets of our states with
the lead singer of chumbawamba
well now i know what that song’s about
he got knocked down but then he got up
again got up again yeah
got knocked down but then he got up
again he drank the whiskey drink then he
drank the vodka drink
then he drank the lager drink that’s
family law yeah
so matt if if someone were so uh so
the schedule for this so i will not be
doing a show tomorrow
i will be traveling to orlando uh so i
will not be doing an episode of my
fellow americans
but i will be we will be live streaming
various events happening at
the convention throughout the week and
weekend uh and then tune in back here on
tuesday night at 8 pm eastern
for the next episode of the muddy waters
of freedom where matt wright and i
will be parsing through the week’s
events like the sweet little
summer cherubs that we are i’m certain
it’s mainly going to be us talking about
i’m sure that it’s mostly going to be us
talking about the convention
so matt if someone were to try to find
us on the internet is that even
possible and if so how would they do
well you can uh head on over to anchor
anchor dot fm slash muddied waters and
from there you can find us on any single
podcasting app service that you prefer
because i’m pretty certain they’re all
there uh you can find us there and
you can find this and every other
episode at muddiedwatersmedia.com
so folks thanks again for tuning in and
uh we will see you
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