Episode 152 – #Kanye is Running… for album sales

Published by Matt Wright at July 8, 2020

About This Episode

Kanye West announces he is running for President, #GhislaneMaxwellDidntKillHerself, Scotus has a few more rulings this week, and Florida Governor signs an occupational licensing law that “repeals more occupational licensing laws than any licensing reform ever passed by any other state” according to the Institute of Justice.

Plus: A Personal Injury Attorney, Chris Reynolds, Attorney At Law Anchor call in moment, and an update from Spike on the campaign.

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Water from Kroger
Follow us online at https://Muddiedwatersmedia.com or
Anchor: https://anchor.fm/muddiedwaters

References:

https://reason.com/2020/07/01/florida-just-passed-the-most-sweeping-occupational-licensing-reform-in-history/

https://www.flsenate.gov/Session/Bill/2020/1193

https://www.flgov.com/2020/06/30/governor-ron-desantis-signs-the-occupational-freedom-and-opportunity-act-to-remove-unnecessary-barriers-to-employment/

https://ij.org/press-release/governor-signs-bill-making-it-easier-for-floridians-to-work/

https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2020/06/scotus-lowers-wall-church-state-school-ruling-200630161522983.html

https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/19pdf/18-1195_g314.pdf

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/07/06/supreme-court-faithless-electors-349728

https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/19pdf/19-465_i425.pdf

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good morning good afternoon or good

evening and welcome to the vanguard

for spike jews world cohen i am matt

wright and together we are traversing

the muddied waters

of freedom jews oh juice

that one was tough hey everybody how are

you doing thanks for joining us

matt how was your week my week was good

my week was good

i’m uh you know getting all ready for

some big event that’s happening here in

orlando this weekend

oh yeah we’re having the convention yeah

we got that convention happening

well that explains why my wife and i are

going to orlando

tomorrow oh it explains i was

for a minute there was like i was like

well i mean you know it’s nice

i hear disney world’s opening back up

maybe

uh so you know i thought well i’ll go to

florida but

you’re right it was because of the

convention

which is good because i’m actually going

to be speaking uh on friday yeah

it’s good it’s good because i’m actually

scheduled to speak at the luncheon

on friday uh at noon which will be on

c-span

i’m told um and then also i am hosting

the uh gun owners of america’s

uh uh panel on the second amendment and

civil liberties and self-protection and

gun rights and all that

uh and it’s going to be hosted by me

featuring

uh antonia uh okafor cover maj turay and

many other

uh libertarian and libertarian-leaning

uh activists of all different uh

ethnicities and

sexual identities and everything else uh

to show that liberty that

the uh the cause of gun rights and gun

ownership is not a

a white people thing so that’s happening

saturday morning um

yeah by the way let me i just want to

talk about that for a minute

okay that is happening saturday morning

i was thinking that was going to be like

a saturday night thing

no but now i have to wake up early to

drive

tour you have to wake up early because

it’s going to be like 10 00 in the

morning

yeah i think yeah 10 10 o’clock so i

have to leave here

at like 8 30.

maybe earlier maybe earlier

well i’m leaving here at 8 30. how long

does it take to get you to

the rosen center in orlando florida

about hour and 15 normally okay yeah

i’d leave eight 15-ish

yeah that’s a babysitter thing though oh

okay okay well then

that’s not like that that’s not

me that’s fair that’s fair so folks

thanks for tuning in we have quite a

show for you we’re going to go through

the

week’s events and we’re going to do uh

some call-ins from our chris reynolds

personal injury attorney chris reynolds

attorney at law anchor collin moment

about halfway through

uh we’re gonna go through all of various

week events and then we’re going to give

an update on the

jorgensen cohen campaign first and

foremost

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matt i just want to say that um

it was two years ago oh yeah july

4th so what saturday

two years ago saturday that spike cohen

officially joined

muddy waters media and aired his very

first show of my fellow americans was

that with um

was that with lou sander or what was

that lou sander it was an episode

detailing the history of the american

revolution

and the articles of confederation and

the constitution that replaced it

and uh it was a very rousing discussion

a incredibly well-read and brilliant and

well-spoken man in luxander

and an absolute bumbling mess of a

person who did not know

what the hell he was doing in me spike

cohen but i’ve gotten better

you much much much better yes you have

yeah i mean i remember the first show of

muddied waters of freedom

you know before you were the host right

and um

it was uh it was a bumbling mess of a

show

it was awkward and quiet and we didn’t

really know

what we were doing and i would like to

think that i have also gotten

more we have all gotten better we have

all gotten at least marginally better i

mean

slightly better i tell people don’t

watch that episode but it’s actually a

great episode that episode one

so much information incredibly

informative i’m just sitting there like

hey that’s great uh so i have another

question and everything i say ends like

this

like i’m asking you a question it was it

was my voice

i don’t know what was wrong with i had

no idea i was like going through puberty

all over i was going through a few

at the age of 30 what was 36

going through puberty live on facebook

and youtube um so yeah no so we’ve

definitely

we’ve moved past that thankfully and

have moved into

uh actually being good at this um and

speaking of being good at something

and then leveraging that for

politics uh kanye west

has decided to you don’t have the

updated notes

i don’t have the update and that’s why i

haven’t no you don’t so uh

breaking news breaking news

the trump administration is looking to

ban tick-tock

ah looking to ban the old

tic-tock social media right when i get

on tick-tock

literally spike owen if if you’re

looking for a reason why

there it is that’s definitely the reason

why yeah

um in june it was reported by forbes

that the app was caught spying on

millions of iphone users

again by apple after previously being

caught in april

and they were also caught doing this in

january

uh mike pompeo warned american users of

chinese apps

that they need to be careful in that

they

risk putting their private information

in the hands of the chinese communist

party

but in all actuality i’m pretty certain

it’s because

the tick tock kids messed with donald

trump yeah

yeah yeah the reason this is happening

folks is because

when uh when uh donald trump had his uh

his last rally in tulsa oklahoma

um they had a million people over a

million people try to get tickets to go

to it

and um the reason for that was because a

bunch of uh

teenage k-pop fans on tick-tock decided

uh they call it operation lincoln they

decided to

uh pretend that they wanted to go and

event which crowded it out made it

harder for other people who

actually did want to go and so it kind

of screwed with the president’s numbers

now meanwhile it turned out they were

vetting those but it created this

situation where

uh uh trump was claiming that you know a

million people wanted to come and then

he could

i mean he had like less than half

capacity

nickelback actually did much better

there the last time they were there

uh and they had all these you know they

had these outdoor areas for overflow

capacity and all this and no one can

like next to no one camps like 6 000

people that came way less than once

trump trump scheduled a sec like a a a

pre-talk yeah give you like a pre-talk

to talk to all the people that were

going to be waiting outside

yeah and there was no one there yeah

there was no one there was there were

reporters out there and that was it

reporting that no one was there it was

it was pretty bad so i’m pretty sure

that’s part of it

uh tick tock is actually owned by an

american company uh they have an

american headquarter or their own

so they’re owned by their subsidiary of

a chinese company

uh but they’ve also had quite a bit of

autonomy they’ve said they haven’t

shared any data

with the chinese government uh in in any

situation they’ve never been requested

to share it and they never have shared

they actually that doesn’t mean it

wasn’t taken though it didn’t mean it

wasn’t taken but they also said that

all of their servers are in the us and

singapore so they’re no more

uh they’re no more vulnerable to having

their information taken than

any other tech company um when the

recent hong kong security bill was

passed

they did what many other tech companies

did and and now boycotted uh hong kong

so you can’t do business uh you you

can’t use tick tock if you’re on hong

kong

so this is because the k-pop kids

screwed with trump’s rally that’s that’s

all this is about

um there’s no security implication to

the existence of tick tock and speaking

of tick tock

if you want some great content uh be

sure to follow me

at literally spike cohen on tick tock

and if you want absolutely no content

you can follow muddied waters media at

muddy waters media because we have a

thing we just don’t do anything with it

yeah for a while we were only following

one person and that was vermin that was

german supreme yeah

no no uh we’ll probably start following

me on there as well

um yeah i think we’re following up maybe

yeah i mean

the reason i the reason i have a tick

tock is because i have a campaign uh

social media team who is

putting me on tik tok and telling me

things to say on video so they can add

it to tick tock so

that’s that’s why we’re on tick tock

otherwise i would not be on tick tock

because i

don’t get tick-tock

i don’t get tick-tock but i don’t have

to get ticked off because

no i’m i’m starting so having it on my

phone since

vermin supreme since right uh

i get tick tock a lot more than i used

to because man if you’re just trying to

kill

five minutes to six hours it’s real easy

to do

well speaking of killing time kanye west

is decided to kill

anywhere from a few minutes to the

better part of the year

right running for president running for

president

of these united states so far he has

hit the ground running by tweeting that

he’s running for president

yeah uh i believe that the ballot access

deadlines

uh in three major states have already

passed

uh he um

i don’t believe he’s filed officially

he hasn’t he hasn’t done it with

anything right um yeah basically

kanye is doing this for publicity yeah

because he has a new album coming out

and he really wants it to uh be a big

hit

and that sounds a lot like another

famous person that ran for president

who had a tv show that was getting ready

to air and he wanted it to be a big hit

and get more money for it of course he

is the president he’s now the president

but he also like registered and filed to

run for president

he had a campaign like so he actually

yes it was to try to push his show but

also

right he did put everything into motion

as opposed to just

declaring he was running for president

but this is something vermin says

running for president is a declarative

statement in and of itself if you

declare

i am running for president you’re

running for president

it doesn’t mean you’re going to be on

any ballots or that anyone’s going to

vote for you

or that anyone even heard you when you

said it and so i mean

kanye’s already ahead of the game in

that because a lot of people heard him

say it

right but that’s you then have to

do stuff yeah there’s there’s things

that you have to do to follow

that up because even a lot of states

don’t allow write-ins like you have to

actually

try to get on the ballot or no one can

vote for you if they even want to and i

deeply suspect that this might be the

last

that we hear of this actually i

shouldn’t say that i think he’ll tweet

about it some more

he’ll continue to continue this but in

terms of actions

i think that just talking about it is

about

the most we’re going to get and i i am

thankful about this because this is kind

of waking people up to the idea of not

voting for trump or biden it’s helping

with that

which uh if you don’t want to vote for

trump or biden

and you want someone who’s actually

going to be on the ballot

you’ve got other options

so speaking of somebody who doesn’t have

more options

so well someone who currently has very

few options very few options

jizzling gizlane maxwell did we

determine whether it’s gizlane or jazlyn

so as part of my show prep for the show

i watched a bunch of show

like i watched and listened to a bunch

of podcasts and radio shows and

everything

just to find out how to say her name

and they all said it differently so no

one knows how to say it no no

no yeah and we all won’t know soon

because she’s gonna

not kill herself

right uh well as we all know she was

arrested at her hideaway last week

in new england um and

proving that it’s not a very effective

hideaway

no if you can get casually arrested at

it you didn’t

hide away very well um

and she was transferred to the federal

the federal metropolitan detention

center in brooklyn

which used to host

r kelly and martin shkreli just for

little fun facts

fun facts about this i actually found

this right before the show so

uh fun facts about the metropolitan

detention center

in brooklyn describe uh an ex warden

describe the jail as one of the most

troubled prisons in the u.s

guards have been jailed for raping

inmates and accused

accused of beating them while the entire

prison lost heat and light for a week in

the depths of winter last year

fun facts about the prison that she is

now in oh and she’s also

in uh 14 day isolation because of covid

that sounds fun none of these facts

sound very fun the r kelly martin

shkreli thing

was kind of fun that’s kind of you know

that’s a that’s it

hill after that yeah it really goes down

after that so of course all of social

media

including yours truly and

him uh guy on left uh are also

uh also not really

we’re all waiting to see when she dies

because

she was the next one and she has all the

information that jeffrey epstein had

and now she has invested she probably

has more

she possibly has even more and she has

every reason to spill the beans

if she doesn’t die oh yeah and uh she

has

also stated that she will fully

cooperate with the investigators

yeah so she was put into quarantine

today possibly already dead

i’m saying yeah she some covid related

incident yeah that’s if if i was

if i was betting on it yeah a covid

related death

yeah related so this is uh gizlane

maxwell

age just want to know how old this

she was born in 1961

okay so she’s so she’s 59.

so statistically

if she got covered she should survive it

the odds are very much in her favor you

know she’s not in her you know

70s 80s 90s you know and and she as far

as we know

maybe she has a health condition but

more than likely her the odds are pretty

overwhelming that she would survive this

so if she dies of covid then

hashtag gizlane maxwell didn’t die of

coven

tyler rush is betting on a covid

overdose

two covets to the back of the head uh

while she slept um

yeah yeah no r.i.p in advance

um gizlane maxwell

not that she’s a wonderful person

because i mean she was right i was like

i’m not really giving her the rip she

doesn’t really

r just r just r

just r i am certain

r to gizlane maxwell

given that pre-ard for that pre-r before

she ours

uh i mean so this is someone who helped

facilitate

jeffrey epstein’s pedophile island and

his

his abuse of

hundreds i think of of teenage girls

like i mean

i don’t know if we’re ever gonna know

yeah i mean many many many countless

teenage girls to be raped and abused

by powerful powerful people right

including possibly the president and

previous presidents and according to

one parlor user last week um

the chief justice of the united states

sure right i mean

could i i’ve heard far less

plausible things in my time

one thing one thing the one the one

person whose name keeps getting floated

that i

absolutely believe is prince andrew

well especially the way he handled it

like he first he was just gonna ignore

and i was like no you can’t ignore that

you can’t ignore the rape of children

yeah you can’t ignore international

teen rape you have to say no

or if you did it you have to really get

out in front of that you can’t just

not right cannot say anything you

you can’t just let that one slide into

the background i would definitely not

let that slide

you can’t let the kitty rape slide you

have to kind of

talk about it that’s that’s a story you

want to get ahead of that’s the story

you want to get ahead of

and especially if you didn’t do it you

definitely want to get ahead of it to

say hey listen uh

right furthest gets out there did not

rape the kids

but when you don’t say anything and then

your initial response is just sort of a

really meek response

starting to look like he might have done

it there prince andrew um

so yeah no i mean it’s it’s it’s it’s

terrible

she when she dies which is probably soon

it will be to protect people like him

uh just like jeffrey epstein’s uh didn’t

kill himself

gizlane maxwell didn’t kill herself and

probably didn’t die of covid either

right did uh do you think this is going

to make it to trial like do you think

that

there’s any shot yes if you elect joe

jorgensen and i

we will try our best to make sure she

makes it to trial

she won’t be i know i know i know

i know if you once you elect us we’ll

make sure

that other gizlane maxwell’s and jeff

epstein’s

don’t not kill themselves but yeah no

she’s not gonna make it four months

there’s no way yeah no she’s gonna make

it i

might she might already be dead

they’ll wait they’ll wait a few days

they’ll wait a few right

you can’t do it immediately yeah you

yeah you can’t

like that that would be a level of

brazen

unheard of i mean it was pretty brazen

the way they did it with epstein

it was oh uh he killed himself even

though he had just said he was in good

spirits

and there’s no camera footage and

he was in like the most secure cell but

we have no footage and no witnesses

and um also the way he did it was

really would have been hard and also um

one of the coroners uh says that it

doesn’t look like he killed himself and

he didn’t look like he killed himself

but he totally killed himself oh and we

burned his body like

immediately but he he totally did it

um judith reuter asks bpa free bottle

yes

there’s no this bottle this water is bpa

free

non-carbonated made in the usa and

kosher

just like me right like we don’t have

bpas that’s not a

i don’t i believe i’m bpa-free

i’m pretty certain you’re a bpa i don’t

i’m not really 100 on what bpa is i know

it’s harmful

i don’t know if it’s like naturally

occurring in humans but if it isn’t

it’s in plastics oh then i don’t have it

right i’m bpa negative

and kosher well actually i’m not kosher

if you eat me that

is not kosher really

yeah you can’t eat jews

so speaking of eating jews

for the first time since 1996

the supreme court made rulings in july

for a week that’s nothing about eating

jews that was just a terrible segue

that was an awful segue yeah first time

since 1996 they made rulings in july

and they’re gonna have more yeah usually

like around my birthday june 28th

um that’s like their final rulings are

happening the 28th and 29th

and 27th and so forth right but there

were so many

uh they listened they heard so many uh

cases

uh in may that they had to actually

extend out which

you don’t hear of often like completely

sort of out of the norm for them i mean

since 1996 anyway

um so they did have a pretty big week

one of these happened last tuesday

moments before our show so we didn’t get

a chance to talk about it

but i felt that it was important so

we’re going to spend a very brief amount

of time on it

okay um but last tuesday the supreme

court endorsed a month

endorsed montana tax credits that helped

pay students to attend religious

schools with chief justice roberts

saying

a state need not subsidize private

education

but once a state decides to do so it

cannot disqualify some private schools

solely because they are religious

so that opens possibility for school

choice to become more prevalent

uh or or

for states to stop subsidizing private

education completely which

i know people are gonna get mad at me

and this is not an official jorgensen

cohen campaign platform

that would be my preferred outcome and

here’s why

when you open the door to state

subsidized charter schooling here’s what

happens

you now have the state becoming the main

uh payer the main consumer of education

in private and charter schools they’re

the ones paying the bill

and if they become the ones paying the

bill now they have to do it the way

that the state says to so very quickly

these charter schools become

private in name only their

customer is the government they might

have a handful of people

who uh you know who are paying out of

pocket but the vast majority of their

customers

are public education kids kids who who

can’t on their own afford to pay for it

and so what happens with that

and the reason they can’t afford to pay

for it is because their parents have

been robbed through the

property taxes and all the other taxes

to pay for their public education so

it’s all a shell game

but what it leads to is the state

controlling all forms of education

and eventually they’re going to make it

against the law to have private

education that isn’t paid for by the

state now all of a sudden it’s all

just public education it’s all just

government-run education

uh and they control how that education

is doled out um

and then eventually you know the one

good thing that would still exist is

that

you know it’s not that the teachers

unions aren’t involved and and

the the schools can be shut down uh if

they if they aren’t performing well and

that the teachers can be fired if they

aren’t performing well

once they’re getting that money and once

they’re being told what to do then the

schools say hey wait a second

you shouldn’t be able to shut us down or

fire our teachers

and now we’ve

just got government

everywhere schools are called something

else and you have destroyed

private education and the next step is

going after homeschoolers

and for those who are thinking that i’m

looking really far ahead and making a

lot of assumptions

i invite you to look at everything the

government has ever touched ever

they start with saying we’re going to

help increase access by

allowing people who can’t afford it and

they can’t afford it because we took

their money

and and we’re going to make people who

can’t afford to be able to have access

to these things

that we need then they say well because

we’re controlling who has access and

bringing these customers to these

providers we’re going to tell them how

to do their job and

then they say well since we’re telling

them how to do their job we’re going to

make sure that they don’t fail

and that they they never go under and

then one day they make it illegal for

anyone to do it outside of this

arrangement

and then they take over as complete so

kind of scary but we will see how this

ends up ending

uh and then there was another thing so

yesterday in a rare unanimous vote the

supreme court ruled that members of the

electoral college

have to oh god vote have to vote for

whomever

won the popular vote in their respective

states and states are free

to remove and punish presidential

electors who speak with their pledges

to support designated candidates thereby

essentially destroying the entire

purpose

of the electoral college in the first

place matt

yes and no okay yes and no i mean the

the the i mean the electoral college

has been a rubber stamp since like you

know the second election

oh yeah of course so yeah it was the

original purpose was if they disagreed

with what the voters said they could do

this

but the other purpose of the electoral

college was to make sure that

large population areas weren’t dictating

all of the country right right well and

it was also that the idea was that this

was a collection

of 50 nation states who were in a

federation with each other

in a federalist system uh but that they

as individual states

chose who they wanted to be president

and

and you know it was you know there was

waiting based on

population uh how many votes they got uh

but it was not you know it was just

it wasn’t just oh we as an entire

country pick this person it’s

we as a collection of 50 states each

select this person so

you know this gets rid of the faithless

faithless elector

uh and just has it where you know the

immediate

um you know whoever wins their popular

vote in their state gets the

the points right um and this all stemmed

from a case out of washington

where they find several electors a

thousand dollars for attempting to place

their votes for someone other than

hillary clinton

um which

i get it i get it i get it

i get it r.i.p to those electors by the

way

right um justice kagan wrote the opinion

and uh everybody but one signed on to it

and in it she wrote the constitution’s

text in the nation’s history both

support

allowing a state to enforce an elector’s

pledge to support his party’s nominee

and the state voters choice for

president

um and i

i kind of understand this ruling

the state party is selecting these

people to to be

a member of the electoral college to be

an electorate for your state

it’s supposed to be an honor and your

party picks you and says hey we want you

to do this they don’t want you to change

your mind

the reason you are being given that now

nowadays

maybe not originally is because it

wasn’t it’s an

honor um and they don’t want somebody

going

rogue um but like catherine bernard did

in georgia

right didn’t she yeah that was

that was her first you know real

exposure in in politics in georgia was

she was the faithless ron paul

elector and uh i thought that was

somebody from texas that did that

no she wanted to do it and they

basically did everything they could to

block

yeah that was your whole thing yeah

somebody in texas did do that

in 16. yeah um so this didn’t say that

the states

oh wait no this said that the states

actually that they have to do it they

can’t decide for themselves they have to

force the electors to vote for whoever

won the popular vote

of their state of their state okay which

basically which i talked about later but

we’ll just get into it now

but the national popular vote interstate

compact

should be crushed by this well it should

be crushed by the fact that it’s an

interstate compact which the

constitution

explicitly says is not to be allowed

not a treaty i read all the arguments

yeah yeah but it’s a compact not a

treaty

an agreement between states outside of

the federal government

agreed but

no matter what the i think that that’s

why they kind of made this ruling

to say no like just so we don’t have to

hear

that case yes you have to vote for who

wins the popular vote

in your state in your state ah

instead of the popular vote overall i

think that i i

i don’t know i haven’t spoken with

anybody on the supreme court recently

or ever so you didn’t do your job the

notes you didn’t you didn’t contact the

source for your show notes is what

you’re saying

i did not know i only i went to uh their

reasonings and i read all of them

and i did not get you didn’t ask them

what they meant

right i did not ask them why whatever um

whatever i i was not able to get that

great why answer from clarence thomas

who also

yeah wrote again uh the suddenly very

vocal

clearance thomas who went like 20 years

without writing anything

now every single decision he writes

something

pretty much almost uh

and he wrote that is powers related to

electors reside with states to the

extent that the constitution does not

remove or restrict that power

thus to invalidate a state law there

must be something in the federal

constitution that deprives the states of

the power to enact such a measure

so basically what he’s doing here is

he’s going to

the 10th amendment and saying look this

is on the states they can do this

now if more of the supreme court would

go to the 10th amendment

more often we may not have this show

we’d have a smaller government yeah if

we if we had if the if the states were

if the federal government was limited

limited to its enumerated powers

like really limited to its enumerated

powers

we’d have a much smaller government

unfortunately

we have a government that the supreme

court routinely says

that kind of sounds like commerce uh so

yeah they can limit that

they can control that but that’s no

commerce meant

goods and services traded across state

lines

that was it and when it said regulate

back then the term regulate meant make

more regular

allow it to flow freely regulate didn’t

mean what they’ve turned regulate to

mean right now

just control now yeah yeah right yes

now of course the court’s opinion does

not extend to

every scenario that could

pop up um and in it in her

uh in her opinion kagan listed a few

uh she said if the winning presidential

candidate dies after election day but

before the electoral college

casts its votes states can’t necessarily

force electors

to cast ballots for a dead person

okay so

situations like that she also wrote that

the state restrictions

on electors couldn’t violate the equal

protection clause or impose additional

qualifications for

presidential candidates and even though

she didn’t like say

anything she didn’t go into depth on

that

california recently had a case that was

shut down by

uh scotus uh saying that

all potential candidates had to release

their tax returns

so that is required is 35 years old born

in america

i think that’s it right uh 35 uh

35 years old um born in america natural

born citizen

and uh you have to have resided here for

at least the last seven years i believe

yeah something like that and it’s to

prevent you know uh

the fun fact that was added because

uh the greatest concern at that time

when the revolution happened

and then when the constitution was added

the most popular person

in the us was the archbishop of

canterbury

the the head of the anglican church and

there was some serious concern that

people would elect

the head of the anglican church which

would essentially bring america back

into the fold of the british crown

and so uh uh and so they introduced that

saying that

they had to actually live in the u it

had had to be born in the u.s

uh and had to live here for seven years

um but and then also they have to be

35. uh so um

yeah so that’s the only restrictions

that can be put on uh for someone to

qualify to run for president

right so when california says all

presidential candidates to be on the

ballot need to release their tax returns

they can’t do that you can’t say that

right exactly

they cannot say that so everybody is

assuming she

uh i didn’t put this in the notes but

she was making a lot of pop culture

references

which when i think of justice kagan i’m

not thinking somebody who

can make pop culture references and she

put it in the opinion

and they were well-placed did she

reference kanye west running for

president

uh this was before um

oh actually well i don’t know when she

wrote the opinion it was released on

monday so i’m assuming she wasn’t

working

she wasn’t last minute writing the

opinion

saturday night uh but she did reference

uh the show hamilton and she referenced

i don’t remember the other thing she

referenced some other show that’s

unfortunate

we referenced juice world

yes we did but i’m also not in the

supreme court

which is accumulated references a lot

well i do um and i go

follow me on tick tock at literally

spike cohen

yeah so that should bring into the

national popular vote

interstate compact because i can’t see

how it can continue

i don’t see how it can continue either

and again i’ve always thought it was i

didn’t see how i could continue before

that

but i think it’s always been i think

it’s always been on incredibly

shaky ground because again the

constitution says that the states can’t

create a compact

can’t create an agreement between them

that without involving the federal

government because ultimately what could

happen then

is that you could have the states create

their own little interstate agreements

that uh not all states would be included

and would be an end run around the

constitutional process

which is what this is the whole purpose

of the interstate compact

is to create a compact enter the states

between the states

bypassing the constitutional process

right

and you’re not supposed to be able to do

that whether you support the national

popular vote whether you support

keeping the electoral college in place

whether you support some other system

ranked choice voting whatever

this is the way you’re supposed to go

through it so speaking of the order of

things and how you’re supposed to go

through

on this show the very next thing we do

on this show

is the personal injury attorney chris

reynolds attorney at law anchor colin

moment matt

that’s the order of things we’re a

nation of laws

that is the order of things that we

wrote out in the

bylaws nation yeah and there’s no if

some other

hosts of the show decided outside of the

show notes

to make their own order of things

that would be illegal on this show

jason who just lost the game

um so we have uh

the personal injury attorney chris

reynolds attorney at law anchor colin

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zach taylor of uh drunken disorderly

i believe that’s right

hey spike i’ve heard you talk about

doing away with the va

which on a surface level is a disabled

veteran i’m all for

putting our our health care more into

the private sector

but my immediate question is how does

one

make up for all of the doctoral training

that the va provides

because every clinic is staffed by

a doctor and then

basically doctors in training who are

working under that doctor

and without that ability how are those

people going to

get into the medical world in a timely

fashion so that we can start lowering

the cost of

goods um have a good one

hey well thanks for that question so uh

i recently i i for those who don’t know

i have ms so i go to doctors a lot

and thankfully it’s stable it’s been

stable for many years but i do go to

doctors a lot to manage the situation to

you know check my levels because i’m on

a treatment and all that stuff

and usually when i go to doctor’s

offices

there are trainees there uh sometimes

more than one

um so i don’t see any reason why you

couldn’t continue to have that

uh with the doctors outside of the va

and have them in the

with private sector doctors maybe there

would be more of them that would be good

if there are more of them

you know they always ask is it okay if

you know these people witness and i go

yeah because we need more doctors um so

yeah no i i think

i think that could be met uh by

allowing the medical professionals to

continue having

uh you know people apprenticing under

them and for those who don’t know the

the jorgensen cohen plan for the va it

costs more money

per patient per veteran to administer

the va than it would cost to just give

money

directly to veterans and let them

purchase

the health care that they need through

private insurance and of course we know

private insurance

gives much better outcomes than the va

does which is

va treats its patients like essentially

third class citizens

so if private insurance and medicare are

first-class citizens

medicaid and some of the state run

programs are second-class citizens

the va are they’re treating their

patients like third class citizens it is

what we would expect from a nationally

run

health care system not just nationally

paid for but nationally managed

government health care system and so

simply replacing it with giving the

money directly to the veterans so they

can get the care they need

even including giving continuing to give

them disability payments and everything

else

it would still cost billions less every

year than uh

uh than our current the current system

which causes

terrible terrible outcomes among

veterans especially disabled veterans

the the epidemic of suicide and

addiction

and among veterans the epidemic of

homelessness among veterans because

they aren’t getting the mental health

and chronic pain treatment that they

need so they often turn

to self-medicating uh getting into you

know drugs that

lead them to have even worse problems

and and up on the streets and everything

else and it’s directly a result of

the va um and uh and all that so that’s

the uh

that is our plan for the for the va

uh real quick before you hit play on old

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group yes thank you for joining us thank

you for joining money waters

and uh so our next question is from

timothy johnson

and what is oh that’s a picture of

timothy okay it adds a little picture to

them cool

all right timothy johnson

hey spike a man this is tim um the main

attraction to the libertarian party to

is gun rights so i was wondering what

your guys’s uh everyday carry

and favorite range toy is and why

thanks well unfortunately i don’t have

an everyday carry because i lost every

single weapon and bit of ammunition that

i have

at that tragic day at sea

r.i.p my guns um but my favorite range

toy prior to that happening

uh was a uh desert eagle 357.

um so if you picture being able to

you you’re carrying a a pistol that

weighs like six pounds

so it’s very very heavy uh and it was

originally designed to be able to fire a

50 caliber

magnum uh round without blowing your

wrist off

and so it’s so heavy when you fire

something like a 357

imagine firing a a a a 357 magnum round

and having less recoil than a lot of

nine millimeters have

um so you just with the 357 magnum

rounds

um so i would say that’s definitely my

favorite uh

range toy back when when i could do that

before that

right back before the building accident

the day of the purpose

my favorite everyday carry is um the

walther ppts m2

um comfortable easy to conceal uh the

favorite

range toy is the cz sp01

yeah uh it’s got a two pound trigger

amazingly accurate just fun just

so much see now i gotta google cz spo

too hold on one second

sp01 sp01

oh so you like the compact stuff okay

yeah i like something that’s extremely

heavy but has no wrinkle

like i mean literally it’s like the

opposite of most pistols most pistols

are very very light

have a decent amount of recoil and a

desert eagle is just like this

it’s like you know like a weight that

you’re holding like a dumbbell weight

but then you know i mean there’s nothing

to it um

so i mean the cz is

unbelievably accurate but it’s but it’s

bigger

so you can’t easily conceal it which

that’s why

the walther oh yeah walters or yeah yeah

right the walther’s just you can slide

that anywhere and nobody would ever see

it yeah well i

certainly wouldn’t because

one of the best things that’s going to

happen when joe jorgensen becomes

president is that the atf will be ended

and all

gun laws will be no longer enforced

and so we finally will be able to get

back the guns that we lost at sea

uh i think even wagner says

if only everyone knew that every lake in

america is a 90

gun yeah yeah every lake in america is

10 h2o and 90

ar-15 that’s right you know everyone

we want to end that formula because that

contributes to the

pollution

so next question is from samantha and

wright

hello mr cohen uh my name is samantha

and

one of the issues that gets brought up

when speaking to people who are either

on the fence or

not exactly libertarian is

talking about you and dr jorgensen’s

policy on getting rid of the federal

minimum wage standard so

my question for you is could you please

go into detail

on what that actually means for people

that were to be accomplished sure

absolutely so we’ve seen what happens

when

minimum wage laws are introduced uh a

lot of smaller businesses especially the

ones that they’re talking about right

now they’re talking about

15 an hour well the reason that big

business cronies and their owned media

are pushing 15 an hour minimum wage

is because they know they can afford it

but their smaller competitors

cannot afford it so you will have many

businesses that have to

uh draw down and fire people or even go

out of business

if they’re suddenly told that they have

to almost double

what they’re paying people um but again

amazon can afford that walmart can

afford it netflix can afford it

uh amazon can afford it i already said

amazon all these companies can afford it

and many other companies like facebook

and google they’re already paying their

employees you know they have skilled

laborers they’re paying them much more

than that for the most part

anyway it’s the mom and pop shops that

can’t afford it it’s the

small furniture stores that can’t afford

it it’s the small restaurants

that can’t afford it everyone else the

big ones the big boys can afford

it and they would love to lose that

smaller competition

but here’s what happens so those

companies go out of business and then

also

when the minimum wage goes up so does

the cost of living it goes up

that much more because now all the

providers know that everyone’s walking

around with that much more money and so

the cost of living goes up across the

board which disproportionately affects

the people who make the least so minimum

wage laws actually

disproportionately harm the very people

that it’s supposed to be helping the

poor because what happens is when those

companies go out of work

now the people that we’re working for

them are making the real minimum wage

which is the zero dollars an hour that

you make when you aren’t working

so here’s the real problem because we

have to look at there is a problem here

the problem is that people

an increasing number of americans aren’t

making enough money to pay for their

cost of living

and there’s two reasons for that number

one their wages aren’t going up enough

a natural reaction of the market and

number two is that the cost of living

keeps going up faster than their wage

increases are going up

the way you deal with the first part of

that problem is to create

more demand for their labor so we have

increasing

supply of labor because of businesses

going out of business and we have not

much demand for their labor

which means the value of their labor

goes down

to whatever the minimum is the way you

change that

is by removing those barriers and

burdens and taxes that the big business

cronies have put in place

via their bought and paid for

legislators and the regulators that go

through the revolving door

of the regulatory agencies back to the

businesses back to the regulatory

agencies you get rid of all of those

barriers that the cronies have put in

place

to stop competitors from working their

way up and disrupting and threatening

their market share you remove those

barriers so that businesses and job

creators can thrive across every sector

of the economy

and the number of jobs available goes

through the roof

the demand for labor goes up the supply

for labor stays the same or actually

starts to reduce

because more and more people already

have good paying jobs

and that will necessarily cause the

wages

the benefits everything to go up because

if you want to get someone who

works you got to get them from someone

else you got to try to get them before

someone else does or get them

from someone that’s already actively

employing them that makes wages go up

as a function of the actual market as

opposed to

an imposition on the market by

government which means it’s sustainable

and it will go up faster than the cost

of living the other part is that cost of

living increase well that’s simple you

end the fed

because the fed has been leading has

been creating

the cost of living increases by

devaluing your currency over

time uh by printing out endless reams

of federal reserve notes that it gives

away to big businesses

and wall street and the airlines and the

hotels and you know and everyone in

between

uh whenever they feel like it and also

lending that money to itself to the

federal government

in the form of buying treasury bonds

that you have to pay off with interest

every day a series of new 40-year loans

is taken out in your name that you

your children their children and even

their children will have to pay with

interest

but in addition to that by printing out

endless reams

of the same federal reserve notes that

you have in your pocket

and then your wallet and in your bank

account that you use to buy and

buy things that you need every single

day by printing out endless reams of

that

it reduces the value by inflating the

money supply it reduces the value

of each bit of that currency including

the one that you have

which is why in 1913 when the federal

reserve was created

two things happened afterwards number

one we went to war

and have never been out of war since and

number two

the cost of living which used to go up

and down with supply and demand and the

natural

equilibrium of the market now just

steadily goes up anywhere from

three to ten percent on average uh to

the point to where now

the uh the reserve note that you have in

your pocket right now or your wallet or

bank account or whatever

your your dollar bill your reserve note

is worth two cents on the dollar what it

was worth in 1913

when the federal reserve was introduced

imagine if your money was worth

50 times what it is now that’s the

problem

not not minimum wages so that is how we

deal with that we fixed the core of the

problem

which is the bad policies of the

republicans and democrats that were

introduced

uh via bought and paid for politicians

uh to the behest and to the direct

benefit of billionaire cronies and to

the detriment of literally everyone else

matt

i don’t think i could add a single thing

to that have you seen uh

have you seen the simpsons meme

with joe jorgensen and american voters

oh and where it’s everything’s stapled

behind her or whatever

yeah yeah yeah i was tagged in something

on that and i was like

i decided not to comment on it uh i told

the person who posted it was like if you

want

answers to these just text me i’ll give

them to you i’m not going to do a

facebook thing because

i hate doing those um

but uh and she didn’t um well and that’s

why i’ve been doing series of

videos explaining these different

concepts and so i’ll be making ones on

minimum wage on the federal reserve on

on you know how do we get wages

increased how we how do we create jobs

all of these things are you know i mean

there’s a there’s a road map for how it

is and and that the long

the long and short of it is we take the

power out of the hands of the

republicans and the democrats

and the bureaucrats and their cronies

that have bought and paid for them

and we put it back in the hands of the

people we put the power back in the

hands that’s why we say that you are the

power

is because if we put the power back in

your hands we put the wealth back in

your hands you will be able to come up

with better

solutions to those problems and we’ll be

getting getting rid of the problem so

you have fewer solutions

fewer problems to have to solve in the

first place so you can focus on

innovating

and growing and prospering and thriving

so our next question comes from uh

john winshower i hope i said that right

ron

john winshower hello please talk about

how justin amash’s legislation to

end qualified immunity will help

police reform in america and advance

liberty

thank you and have a good one hey thank

you john not sure what happened there

but uh yeah so this is an easy one so

qualified immunity is the ridiculous

legal doctrine that says that police

departments

or that police and politicians and

government officials

uh are held harmless to the damages that

they cause

when they infringe upon the rights of

others and they can’t be sued

if they decide that what they did was

reasonable

so imagine again going into court and

saying your honor i know that i’ve been

charged with murder

but i think what i did was perfectly

reasonable and the and the judge goes

well if you think it was reasonable then

i’ll have to throw the the charges out

matt one time matt wright uh did a

clinic on the history of

uh of qualified immunity and the long

and the short of it

is that it was initially introduced in

the 50s and 60s so that the government

could

brutalize uh the civil rights protesters

it was strengthened in the 70s 60s and

70s

so that they could brutalize anti-war

protesters

it was then strengthened further in the

80s and 90s so that they could brutalize

victims of the war on drugs

and it was it was strengthened to its

most most recent final form

in 2001 so it could be used to brutalize

the victims of the war on terror

and uh it is a a powerful way of

allowing

government to not be held accountable

and so

here’s how that plays out derek chovin

before he murdered george floyd

had killed well killed had 17 previous

complaints against him

including wrongful death complaints

that’s correct matt right

yeah yeah so he’s potentially 17 right

yeah 17. yeah and including wrongful

death complaints which means

he potentially murdered other people and

the minneapolis police department when

they looked

at derek chovin they did what police

departments do

around this country when they look at

the bad apples in their bunch

they looked at him and went this guy

sucks he’s a terrible cop

he’s causing all sorts of damage he’s

hurting people we need to get him off

the streets

but if we do that we’re gonna have to

fight these labor unions these police

unions it’s gonna cost us a fortune

a ton of money and resources and there’s

not a guarantee that we’ll be able to

get rid of them

and he’s not costing us anything by

staying on the force because of

qualified immunity none of us can get

sued

so we’ll just leave him on the force and

eventually he’s probably gonna end up

murdering someone or doing some terrible

thing

and we can charge him with a crime and

then we can finally get rid of them more

easily

and well yeah

and then you also have to thank the sure

they’re gonna think about getting rid of

him

um but even if they so if they wanted to

get rid of them they have to do a

cost-benefit analysis and they can’t

they do

right and i mean if you think the guy i

don’t have his name because i don’t have

the

that week’s notes out in front of me

obviously but uh the cop

who stayed outside of the parkland

shooting for 10 minutes

oh yeah well he he got fired from his

job

he got fired from his job for not going

and then three years later two years

later

he got his job back with full back with

back pain

right so qualified immunity

is one of the many problems that you

have with the police the other one

is the police unions themselves because

the police unions are the ones who are

protecting

all of these officers now it doesn’t fix

every problem but here’s what ending

qualified immunity does

now those police departments and those

police unions

they’ll have a vested interest in

getting rid of bad abuse of cops

because if for no other reason then they

don’t want to get sued

and then that will include the unions

because the last thing the unions want

is to lose all their money and resources

uh constantly having to put pay for

defense attorneys for all the bad cops

so that

encourages the people that right now are

going

yeah no leave them on it encourages them

to actively

root out bad cops not just punish cops

and get rid of them when they do

something

but actively look and try to deter

people who would do bad things from even

joining the force in the first place

imagine police departments who are

actively looking for anyone who might

possibly infringe upon your rights or

harm you or abuse you in some way

imagine if now they are actively saying

no we can’t get sued it’s going to cost

his fortune

let’s get rid of these people and that

enforces and

that punishes bad policing but it also

rewards

good policing not infringing upon

people’s

rights and in fact now the police

departments and police unions are going

to look

at laws that lead to unnecessary police

interactions

which increases the rates and potentials

for lawsuits

and they’re going to actively campaign

to say hey let’s end the war on drugs

let’s end these things

so that the only time that police are

interacting with people is to protect

lives and rights and property what we’re

absolutely necessarily

needed for so it changes everything

around instead of incentivizing bad

policing

it encourages police to actually be on

the front lines of trying to stop all of

it to begin with

the only thing i would worry about is

when you get rid of qualified immunity

and suddenly

everybody can get everybody can now get

sued

for what they’ve done

in short like i’m worried about like qi

insurance

well i’m not cause i’m not in government

and if i am a government

i’m not gonna do things that lead to go

ahead right but yeah no i’m worried

about like qualified immunity insurance

i don’t know what they would call it

but like qualified immunity insurance

where police officers will say

i want uh insurance in case i get sued

for

you know acting outside of the breadth

of my responsibilities

and everybody’s like yeah that’s a great

idea up until you realize that

that’s just included in their payment

and insurance companies

are only going to do the insurance if

they think they’re going to make more

money at it

than what they’re paying out absolutely

which is why now you’ll have yet a third

group of people

the uh the uh you know government

malpractice insurance companies

pushing for changes along with the

police unions who don’t want their

their members to be paying these

ridiculous uh you know these ever

increasing

uh uh insurance uh malpractice insurance

or whatever they would call like you

said abuse insurance what

qi insurance whatever they would call it

um so there’s a vested interest now and

now you’ve created yet a third group of

people who because they want a profit

they’re going to say hey whoa let’s try

to keep this number down

and so let’s push for policies in the

same way that you know car insurance

companies

will push for policies and changes that

they think will lower

the rate of accidents so that they don’t

have to pay out as much

you will now have uh these malpractice

insurance or whatever they call it abuse

insurance or whatever companies

saying let’s get rid of the war on drugs

leads to

much more police interactions uh and so

as a result of much more police

interactions

we now have you know more potential for

uh you know uh allegations of abuse and

harm and so forth so let’s end let’s get

rid of anything that’s not necessary

so they would it would cause them to

push for

better policing and better interactions

and fewer

interactions between the police and the

public so it incentivizes

us going in the right direction it’s not

perfect it’s also only one tool we also

have to end the war on drugs we have to

end

no knock raids we have to re end civil

uh asset forfeiture we have to end the

1033 military industrial

uh military surplus program you know

there’s a lot of stuff we have to do we

have to get rid of man

mandatory minimum sentencing there’s all

sorts of things that need to be done

but that one thing qualified immunity is

possibly the biggest single one

so we have one more question and did the

i know there was someone that was saying

yeah that’s him

this account got banned so that’s his

backup account so ike sanchez is takashi

yeah ah okay uh and so we have no

because that was already on there before

no well yeah but i didn’t see the name

takashi on the list so i assumed that he

didn’t do it

okay but he said in the comments i’m

like sanchez

i was kicked off oh okay all right cool

so here is takashi’s question

hey guys so this is mainly a question

for spike but matt feel free to jump in

if you have any comment on this

uh i’m sorry if y’all have answered this

before but with the recent purge of all

the book boys on facebook i’ve been out

of the loop

so the cnn boys

the cnn boys i was wondering how y’all

feel about the task force

created by bill barr against the

boogaloo boys in antifa

it’s uh it’s a little worrying you know

knowing his uh

his track record with waco siege and

ruby ridge but uh

yeah just curious i’m going to let you

take

i’ve been answering all these questions

first so i’m going to let you do this

one first

so for anybody who doesn’t know uh late

last month i think it was the 26th

don’t quote me on that but i think it

was the 26th uh they

announced that there was a tax task

force to go after

uh members of antifa and members of the

uh if you read any article about it the

far right extremist boogaloos

um and they said that they were a reason

for a lot of the violence at

the protests um

we talked about the antifa thing briefly

on the show a few weeks ago

and with the cnn boys

we can say the same thing

antifa isn’t an actual organization the

cnn boys

are not an actual organization

to say that you’re going after antifa

you are now going after anybody who is

anti-fascist if

you come out and you say and you ask

them are you anti-fascist

and you say yes technically at that

point

they can lock you up because of this um

same thing with the cnn boys um that

were added to that list they’re to the

best of my knowledge i have not been

invited to join

uh the cnn boys even though i’m

i would have joined many of the groups

that i was invited to

but failed to because of personal

reasons

um but there is no like

formal group so anybody out there who’s

wearing a

hawaiian shirt or a cnn shirt or

a pink polo i think is now yeah pink

polo is now the next

thing polo is now an approved uh and

you’re out there

the cul-de-sac caucasians in st louis um

if you’re out there and you are wearing

any of these things that

are known as being a cnn boy

approved apparel they can technically

just come and arrest you like

there is no real foundation for any of

this and

it’s sort of like the war on terror

where they are saying

we’re just going after terror we’re

going after an idea and a concept that

has no real definition

and the reason we’re doing it is so that

we can deny them due process we can say

this is a growing problem

cnn boys haven’t killed anybody

no there was one cnn boy who killed two

police officers that’s literally the

extent of the violence that they’ve

caused

and the violence that has happened in

these protests have happened as a result

of police departments

corralling peaceful unarmed protesters

into

small areas and then brutalizing them

with with tear gas and pepper spray and

everything else

and making a large crowd of people very

very angry

uh and confused and scared and that

creates the the

violence while at the same time they

left the entire rest of the cities

uh completely unpleased which encouraged

uh people who have nothing to do with

antifa

or boo boys or anything else they’re

just looters they’re just people who

took advantage of a situation that could

go in

and steal stuff um and and and raid

businesses and do whatever

um and so that’s all right i have to i

have to interrupt you nate fry’s

said can they start dressing like

politicians

yeah if they call i love the idea they

call themselves cnn

they dress like politicians uh and you

know uh they they carry guns but they

say that you know it that

they wrap it in a in you know in a sheet

of paper that they’ve signed so they say

i’m just carrying laws

um you know i i think they could really

go with this i just want to show you

this photo that i shared on my

uh on my uh spike cohen on my politician

page

this is the the cnn boys in action they

are there with black lives matters

protesters

protesting the murder of brianna taylor

and duncan lemp who were both killed in

no rot no knock raids

uh in the last uh well brianna taylor

was killed a couple months ago

and duncan left was killed what last

year earlier this year

no that was a couple of months ago okay

yeah so within the last couple months

they

they were both murdered by uh police who

literally just broke into their homes

and opened fire on them um and so you

have

black lives matter and boog boys

protesting together no one was killed no

one was harmed

and guess what also didn’t happen the

police didn’t bother these folks you

know why

because they kept to themselves they

shared their first amendment right

to free speech and they were heavily

armed and you probably shouldn’t shoot

tear gas at people that are heavily

armed you’ll also notice

that the protests recently haven’t been

as brutalized

as they were previously do you know why

that is because an increasing number of

them

are armed you have black panthers and

and cnn boys and and just people who are

buying guns and coming to the protests

and it turns out when you put them in

the front

the police don’t want to start anything

as much we saw during the lockdown

protests and during the anti-uh

um gun gun control protest in richmond

virginia back in february

when you got a bunch of really armed

people the police don’t want to start a

fight with them

no one would want to start a fight with

a large group of armed people

no one no one would there’d be no reason

to do that uh unless they were being

aggressive which they are not they’re

simply saying we’re here to exercise our

rights

and to share our opinions and uh even if

we’re doing so angrily that’s all we’re

doing

uh there was another uh video that i

shared

of several hundred uh black people who

marched on stone mountain georgia in uh

in georgia it’s a big confederate

monument they were marching there

because they wanted to you know they

wanted it removed and they were

protesting

uh they wanted it to be you know removed

and replaced with something else

whether you agree with what they did or

not no one was harmed

no one was killed and the police let

them do their thing

because they all had guns and lots of

them

and that’s why when we say the second

amendment wasn’t written for deer

hunting

and the second amendment protects the

first amendment what that means is

people tend to let you do your thing if

there’s a bunch of you and you have guns

and you’re not hurting anyone they tend

to just let you go ahead and

have at it because they don’t want to

start a fight with you

because why would they

so i think that answered the question

yeah i think that answered the question

i think i think we got takashi’s

question i think we got that in

and we thank you for all your questions

again feel free to go to anchor dot fm

slash muddy waters media

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and uh and share your your questions and

we’d be happy to answer

answer them uh as soon as we aren’t

occupied and speaking of

occupied that was so bad

speaking of occupied matt i heard

some stuff happen down in florida

with occupational licensing

that was so bad but yes stuff did stuff

did happen here in florida last week

florida governor ron desantis who’s

about 50 50 in my mind signed into law

the occupational freedom and opportunity

act that will loosen or abolish

occupational licensing regulations

across more than 30 professions wow

yeah big uh desantis commenting on the

new law

said for two years we’ve pushed for

regulatory reforms in florida’s

occupational licensing system to remove

unnecessary

barriers for individuals pursuing their

professional aspirations

today with legislative and public

support we’re delivering

on those reforms with a comprehensive

and meaningful bill

that will save thousands of floridians

both time and money for years to come

which this is a huge huge bill

this is a very large like the scope of

the importance of this bill

is very large because according to the

institute of justice

which is a great organization that deals

with this sort of thing

uh they said that this law repeals more

occupational licensing laws than any

licensing reform ever passed by any

other state oh wow

by the way we were talking about

barriers to entry these are one of those

barriers to entry occupational licensing

laws that if you want to like

you know do some basic thing like food

service or cutting

you know mowing lawns or or doing

handyman work or whatever

you have to spend tens of thousands of

dollars

in some cases to get

allowed to do that right then you get

taxed and everything else on top of that

but you have to pay

for permission to do business for

no reason right so

all told 30 30 different uh

this repeals or reforms over 30

different licenses including but uh

including by reducing required

educational hours for

certain licenses and some of the

highlights of this bill we’re going to

be going through a couple right here

um waiving the requirements of the

commercial driver license for military

service members with similar training

and experience which means if you’ve

already had the training you don’t need

to go

you don’t need to go through it yeah

right exempting all hair braiders

including african style hair braiders

nail technicians hair rappers body

wrappers makeup artists

boxing announcers and boxing time

keepers from being required to obtain a

license

and related news you had to have a

license to be a

boxing announcer or boxing timekeeper

right i did not read all the way to the

end of some of these so those last two i

was like what

um creating universal recognition for

barbers and cosmetologists licensed in

other states that’s a big one

that’s a big that’s a big one i’ve

talked to a lot of

patrick mahomes last year where he flew

in his barber from kansas city

for the super bowl to get all of his

boys on his team haircuts

and that guy was gonna have to pay like

a huge fine

um reducing required educational hours

for cosmetology specialists

and full barbers licenses reforming

reducing or narrowing

licensing requirements for landscape

architects diet coaches

that’s a big one we’re going to talk

about that in a second certain types of

construction

subcontractors alarm system installers

and

geologists geologists right

because you wouldn’t think that going

through all of the schooling that you go

through to call yourself a geologist

would be enough

and preventing the state from suspending

licenses over

unpaid student loans that’s huge

huge that is big yeah

that is a big one um the dietitians and

nutritionists

they’re now going to be able to work

without fear of being targeted by sting

operations and threatened with jail time

which yes have happened here uh simply

for the supposed crime of giving out

tips

about healthy eating so i’m going to do

a thing

i have to look at this because we

actually have links in our in our

references

for this show

that yeah so it’s a floor state of

florida a woman named

heather koch del castillo of fort walton

beach

she she is giving dietary and

nutritional advice

she was fined

she was threatened with fines up to a

thousand dollars and a year

in prison

for getting

giving like these are the people that

like you know follow me on instagram for

more healthy healthy

recipes and like they want you to you

know hire them to

explain like how you can eat more

healthily and how you can live a

healthier life

you’re in jail for that eat less burgers

like me saying that

i would have needed a license yeah well

to to say it and

and charge someone and charge someone to

tell tell them to eat less burgers

now you can legally donate money to

muddy waters

after we have told you to eat fewer

burgers that’s right

because that is absolutely correct if i

say eat more salad and less burgers and

pizza

and for that small tip you can go to

anchor dot fm slash muddied waters and

hit the old donate button and uh

pick any of those three perfectly

preferably one of the two on the right

um you could uh then uh

be paying me for that great great

information

included in the law about the dietitians

it says any person who provides

information wellness recommendations

or advice concerning nutrition to do so

without

a license as long as they do not provide

those services to individuals

under the direct care of a physician for

medical reasons

or advertise themselves as medical

professionals

let me just say not a doctor

yeah we are not doctors and if you’re

under the care

of a physician you can should consult

them

first

um and if what they say conflicts with

what we said

if your doctor tells you not to eat more

salads and fewer burgers

and pizza i guess you have to listen to

them

or get a second opinion from a different

or find a new doctor

right um it also includes a provision

preventing florida cities from and i’m

i’m such a fan of this uh from banning

food trucks or requiring

operators to obtain an additional local

license or pay additional fees in order

to vend which means that

that’s big i mean florida tons of food

trucks around here many of them

are terrible but some of them are really

really good

um now when the really really good ones

are in town they don’t need to get the

uh the tampa license in order to do it

they can just

drive over from orlando or from sarasota

wherever right this next one i have to

read this

this is insane it also got rid of the

need for a license to interior decorate

which up until now required six years of

education and experience

and a two-year apprenticeship to say

that couch would look good there i think

you really need to have a clock on this

wall

interior decorating yeah

eight years of schooling and

apprenticeship

i can’t even imagine what you would have

to spend

do you think any do you think the

established interior decorators had

anything to do with that rule

eight years to be an interior decorator

big big interior decorating big really

lovely

big interior at it again uh

as long as it takes to become a doctor

right that’s how long it takes for you

to become an interior decorator in

florida you’re your decorator in florida

right wow yep

now according to the institute for

justice a

conservative measure of the economic

value loss

due to these regulations totaled nearly

460

million dollars oh that’s that’s very

conservative

all told because of licensing all

florida economy

may lose 11.6 billion in miss

allocated resources annually that sounds

more like it

um yeah this isn’t hundreds of millions

of dollars being left on the table this

billions or tens of billions of dollars

every year being left on the table

because and this is what we talk about

cronies put regulations in place to make

it harder for new

actors to come into the market and

threaten their market share what does

that do if you’re not

already established if you don’t already

have an established source of income

you’re just not able to do anything you

have to go work for someone else you

have to go

live on the social safety net you have

to go live on financial assistance you

have to go

you know do bit jobs you can’t do

anything for yourself

because you can’t afford the cost of

trying to do it

or the time taken away from other things

to try to do it

so perfect example so what an

absolutely great i mean this is great

like i mean i it’s not often i i

uh you know it’s not often that uh we

get to praise

members of the government um in this

case like

is it perfect no it’s not but this

is a huge step a

huge huge step towards what

the libertarian future is um yeah it’s a

huge step in allowing people to find

their own to be able to

do business without going out of

business because they can’t afford it

and the institute for justice has said

that they believe that because of

florida passing this law many other

states are going to copy it

yeah and that this is going to become

like the backbone of all of it which

that’s going to help out every other

state which in turn will help out

everybody in the economy in the nation

and then it will spread out from there

yeah your mouth to god’s ears that this

becomes like a standard thing

uh you know across across the states

it’ll make our job easier when we get

elected to the white house because

we are going to be saying that these

kinds of rules are a violation of the

first amendment it’s a violation of your

right

to try to associate with others and try

to create a business

uh it goes well outside of what

government should be doing in terms of

protecting the public uh it has nothing

to do with that this doesn’t

protect there’s no protection of the

public of someone having to go to

going having to spend school and

apprenticeship for eight years to

interior decorate

as um where did that comment go david

mcnitt says you can go through that

education and still think it’s a good

idea to hang beads in a doorway

um exactly yeah exactly it doesn’t

actually create

taste it just it just makes uh it just

makes the uh

makes it more expensive it makes it more

expensive it gives you fewer options and

it makes it harder for people to

move ahead in life we want a much more

dynamic market that comes from just

letting people do it you can do this

okay great do it

right do it that’s great do it you can’t

hurt people you can’t

you can’t you know you mow lawn’s great

okay you can’t run over people with your

lawnmower

everyone already knows that like there’s

no reason for them to be getting

involved what are you teaching the

lawnmower guy

there’s nothing they’re learning now

they want to be the best lawn mower in

the game

because they want you to you know use

their lawn mowing service instead of

someone else they have a vested interest

in providing the best

uh value um and they’re not going to

provide they’re going to be less likely

to provide the best value if they’re one

of the only games in town because they

know they can just

provide they can just do whatever they

want and you know they’re they’re one of

the few people

that you can hire so you make service

better by

adding more providers which makes

everyone step their game up so it’s not

just about at that point protecting the

public it’s about

them getting excellence in service

because you’re making the consumer king

by allowing them to have as many choices

as possible so and to that end

joe jorgensen and i again are running a

campaign to set america free

and we will be in orlando florida for

the libertarian party convention

uh which started today but it will go on

till

sunday the 12th and so i will be there

uh doing various speaking things i’ll be

hosting the panel on gun rights on

saturday morning that matt has to be at

and uh i will be speaking at a luncheon

on friday

i’m not sure what i’m doing thursday or

sunday other than just hanging out with

people i am going to be setting up some

online

uh zoom rallies uh for all the online

delegates

this year because of the pandemic the

majority probably a large majority of

the delegates are not going to be there

in person

they’re going to be online isn’t there a

thing on sunday

a thing don’t have the schedule and hang

there’s like a rally on sunday i believe

oh are you not giving a speech at that

rally

fair i can if i i wasn’t sure if you

were

not like i don’t know if joe or i are

giving speeches there i think that’s

just a rally i think we’ll be there but

i don’t know for giving speeches if i

wanted to i’ll certainly do it

i’ll ask you after the show don’t worry

okay uh so

okay cool yeah so uh we’ll be doing that

and we will be uh

we will be uh we’ll be there at the at

the uh

at the convention and then i will be uh

on the 20th

to the 23rd i’ll be in chicago or not

chicago i’ll be in

uh illinois doing a bunch of stuff there

uh and i will be at the capital of

illinois where the libertarian party of

illinois will be submitting all of our

ballot applications and everything else

i’ll be there along with a bunch of

other local

and regional and statewide candidates

for office

and then i will be on the 24th to the

26th

i will be at the libertarian party of

ohio’s convention i will be the keynote

speaker

and i will be auctioning off i will be

signing

a plush my little pony spike the dragon

toy

that they will be auctioning off so if

you ever wanted that

be in ohio on the 25th

oh and on the 16th

oh god so on the 16th uh

i will be having a discussion with

trapped chris brown of traffic chris

brown of

trapped

about politics about politics because

this is 2020

right because if anybody had that on

their bingo card please let us know

yeah we will if you had the vice

presidential

candidate of the third largest political

party in the united states getting into

a discussion about politics

a heated discussion about politics with

the lead singer of trapped

let us listen let us know bring your

bingo cards to convention

and if you see me i’ll give you a

sticker we will definitely give you a

sticker for that

uh soon after i will be uh we have we

are in works

uh talking about i will be getting into

a a symposium

about family law and its effects on the

social safety nets of our states with

the lead singer of chumbawamba

well now i know what that song’s about

yeah

he got knocked down but then he got up

again got up again yeah

got knocked down but then he got up

again he drank the whiskey drink then he

drank the vodka drink

then he drank the lager drink that’s

about

family law yeah

so matt if if someone were so uh so

the schedule for this so i will not be

doing a show tomorrow

i will be traveling to orlando uh so i

will not be doing an episode of my

fellow americans

but i will be we will be live streaming

various events happening at

the convention throughout the week and

weekend uh and then tune in back here on

tuesday night at 8 pm eastern

for the next episode of the muddy waters

of freedom where matt wright and i

will be parsing through the week’s

events like the sweet little

summer cherubs that we are i’m certain

it’s mainly going to be us talking about

convention

i’m sure that it’s mostly going to be us

talking about the convention

so matt if someone were to try to find

us on the internet is that even

possible and if so how would they do

that

well you can uh head on over to anchor

anchor dot fm slash muddied waters and

from there you can find us on any single

podcasting app service that you prefer

because i’m pretty certain they’re all

there uh you can find us there and

you can find this and every other

episode at muddiedwatersmedia.com

so folks thanks again for tuning in and

uh we will see you

next week and where we’re going we don’t

need

roads

you’re giving money based on hurrying

favor like many people

people love me and you know what i’ve

been very successful

everybody loves

it’s social media it gets out i have

hundreds of millions of people

number one on facebook you know always

number one on facebook any i just found

out i’m number one on facebook i thought

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