Episode 111 – Shootings, Judges & Trump


About This Episode


America has been rocked by some mass shootings from shooters across the political spectrum, American gun owners have been rocked by some terrible gun control proposals from politicians across the political spectrum, and Donald Trump has packed the courts with judges from…pretty much one part of the political spectrum.

Music – Perseverance by Zuby


Episode Transcript

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good morning good afternoon or good
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evening and welcome to the vanguard for
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spike the first jewish MVP of the
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muddied waters media Cohen I am Matt
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Wright and together we are traversing
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the muddy waters afraid ya know it’s
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[Laughter]
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literally literally literally spike Owen
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is with me hey everybody how are you
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doing how are you today I’m doing I’m
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doing I’m doing well yeah glitter I’m
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doing I’ve got uh I’m actually I’m
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reeling from your from your little your
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little gastronomic venture that you that
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you posted with your very jealous it was
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I’m not gonna lie like that
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I was actually I did not know how that
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was going to turn out and I in King Shan
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sweet Shane Sweeney is hashtag team
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tilapia screaming yeah he’s wrong he’s
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just rolling he’s shy he’s shamed the
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Vietnamese much but I long everyone has
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to be wrong on something Shan Shan is
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wrong about his obsession with
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Vietnamese poop fish otherwise known as
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tilapia I was wrong in thinking that I
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could trust Shan when it comes to
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something related to food that’s my
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shortcoming
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so what am I making I’m making an amends
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for that and in this moment what what I
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also learned today and it’s it’s very
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upsetting it’s almost precluded South
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Carolina from being a state that I could
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ever possibly live in what happen you
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don’t have sheets and or wah-wah
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no no and and and and Matt we because I
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insulted shame by saying do you take
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dates to WA for anniversaries and he had
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no idea with mm he didn’t know what it
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meant so okay well maybe they have
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sheets I was like wait do you have
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sheets and he said no and I was like
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well I can’t even
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you can cross the border like five
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minutes into North Carolina
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I don’t know about Georgia but like five
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minutes into North Carolina and there’s
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a sheets going into Charlotte there’s a
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sheets and then where I am going into
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shallowed or whatever it is there’s a
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sheets so I mean they’re nearby but for
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whatever reason there are apparently no
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sheets or wawas what was a more North
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thing I think that’s kind of like north
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virginia and north of Virginia but
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sheets we’ve got them just just north of
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us but so so Wawa I believe started in
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Pennsylvania and so she’s actually I
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think probably yeah
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I know they’re huge in both those states
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when I Drive to cook Toronto and when I
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Drive back nine times that well yeah
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close to nine times out of ten we’re
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either stopping at a sheets a Wawa or
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what’s the other big one um
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further south Oh further south is Kwik
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Trip which is a poor man sheets to be
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honest okay tbh it’s a it’s a poor man’s
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tbh it’s a it’s a poor man sheets
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um but yeah um yeah like so where when I
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where I grew up sheets was we didn’t
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have wildlife at the time we only had
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sheets and sheets was my 2:00 a.m. I’m
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hammered see the problem is we have
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Waffle House which just floods out
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everything yeah and that’s what happens
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when you can sell a steak and eggs for
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like five dollars it’s hard to like it
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just drowns out everything else yeah and
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then when I came down here then we had
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Wawa everywhere and there’s more of them
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opening every day and God like if a
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sheets came down here I’d be
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hard-pressed to be like nah I’m still a
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sheets guy because I have now fully
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injected while right into the
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bloodstream like I’m like mainlining it
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at this point but I wouldn’t take a date
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there it sounds kind of it sounds kind
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of dangerous
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my first two main line a business which
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I my first exposure to was during the
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2012 presidential campaign Romney showed
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up at a Wawa to talk about American
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innovation and acted just you know he
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was like oh and you know like that yet
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you know the
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you could press the you know on the on
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the LED LCD screen what you wanted and
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he was acting and everyone’s like isn’t
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that crazy that Mitt Romney’s act that
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way and I’m like yeah that’s I wanted to
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that like I was like that sounds
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incredible
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I share Mitt Romney’s joy and and and
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shock and amazement at that
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Liz Perez in the house says cutie I you
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know I’m not against QuikTrip Liz um
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especially like if you’re in the pizza
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they have those little cheap single
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serve pizzas and my wife is in love with
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um this is this is my screen for Wawa
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it’s right here this is your home screen
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is Wawa
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no no like this is how I order all of my
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Wawa I order it while I’m at my house
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and then I Drive there I don’t even take
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time touching there that’s actually
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smart though it’s a hygienic way of
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doing it you touch your dirty screen
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instead circulating your own germs
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that’s funny
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so Oh first and foremost allow me to
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thank Kroger for this delicious purified
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drinking water then I drink whenever I’m
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in America and allow me to thank
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so speaking of um man there’s no segue
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speaking of I mean listen guys this is
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not the cheerful show that here’s the
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opposite of the happiness that comes
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from a limerick from one of us the polar
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opposite our polar opposite is the the
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so some terrible things have happened if
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you haven’t been awake for the last four
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or five days we have some bad news for
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you some really actually some really
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terrible things that happened in some
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shootings that happen across the country
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the first one was in Gilroy California
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that was actually last week right that
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was that was this predated the other
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ones by quite a quite a bit right I mean
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by like a day Oh was it she I thought it
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was like nobody would before it maiden –
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no it was like two or three they were
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all really close together they were all
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pretty close and the debates Oh even the
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Gilroy one was after the debate I think
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the I think the gala where everyone was
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Thursday okay I think right so I was
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yeah yeah and then like less than like
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12 hours later was the Dayton one so
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there was a shootings in Gilroy
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California El Paso Texas and Dayton Ohio
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31
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people murdered and in the total and the
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three shootings dozens of others have
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been hurt it has been absolutely
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devastating I mean it’s obviously any
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any death or any murder is devastating
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but when you think these were three
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relatively pedestrian places for people
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to be one was a a festival called the
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Garlic Festival that they hold every
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year in Gilroy which is a smallish town
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in in California and then there was a
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shooting in a Walmart we’ve all go to
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Walmart or some other grocery
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supermarket in El Paso Texas and then
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the third one was at a nightclub
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district or or I guess a nightlife
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district yeah targeted towards a
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specific bar and grill in Dayton Ohio so
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these weren’t you know 9/11 was attacks
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on the Pentagon and the World Trade
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Center places that most of us would
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never end up going much less you know be
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a part of everyday these were kind of
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small-town attacks that you know they
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Rock people because besides just the
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loss of life and the fear and everything
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you think I could go to a Walmart or
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some store or you know grab a sandwich
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at a you know grab a drink at at a bar
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or go to some local festival and
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something like this could happen so it
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it really shook everyone um and to add
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obviously horror on top of horror the
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well I guess let’s talk about the the
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motivations behind the shooters the
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shooter in Gilroy and the shooter in El
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Paso were similar they both the one in
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El Paso was a lot more explicit but the
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one in Gilroy seemed to kind of be in
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the same the same political bandwagon
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where they seem to be kind of white
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nationalist the one in El Paso
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definitely was he does not call himself
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a trump supporter but only because he
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thinks Trump doesn’t go far enough and
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he he’s kind of a down the line white
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nationalist it’s very interesting
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because white nationalists typically are
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also socialist they’re just socialists
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just for white people and so he
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supported universal basic income which
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is something that you know Andrew yang
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and Marianne Williamson support
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but he supports it just for white people
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he supports nationalized health care
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which is something that almost every
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Democrat now supports in some form or
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another but just for white people and
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and so they did these shootings the
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third shooter in Dayton was a is
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actually a Elizabeth Warren and Bernie
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Sanders supporter he’s a Democratic
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Socialist down the line supporter he
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wants socialism to happen sooner than
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later and you actually knew something
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about the correct me if I’m wrong but
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there was something to do with that
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where he targeted right debar there was
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something to do with the bar there was
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something to do it was either with the
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bar that he targeted or it had something
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to do with the district that he targeted
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but it was something about how it was
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like it was favored by like kind of
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rural rednecky types and kind of a kind
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of like where a lot of conservatives
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would be or something like that and I
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was and I wasn’t clear on whether or not
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that was the area that it was that it
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took place or if that was the bar where
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it happened
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yeah but it was that it was it was the
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area of Dayton Ohio where you would see
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many of Trump supporters yeah it’s like
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yeah okay so Ned peppers is kind of like
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a I guess sort of like a cowboy themed
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restaurant and so you’d have a lot of I
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guess stereotypical you know redneck
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types or you know southern types that
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would go to something like that
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no go ahead the guy from California the
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guy from Texas looks so much alike it’s
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creepy which is true but what makes it
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creepier is that all three of them look
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so much alike
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let me see if I can grab that photo of
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of the shooters because yeah they look
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like the same person
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they could be did anybody see that a not
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that they can really answer me but the
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three three identical strangers was the
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name of the documentary it was about
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three twins that have been separated at
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Birth three triplets that had been
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separate
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at birth and they all ended up finding
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each other it was a real story happened
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back in the eighties and it was just
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crazy but they look like they could be a
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family that was separated yeah it’s
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really weird it’s really it’s it’s
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really creepy and they also um am I
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looking for the I think not here let me
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let me pull it up we just yeah so this
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is them where is it I just downloaded it
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it’s it’s just really like I know I’m
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taking time to do this but it’s really
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really creepy how similar they all look
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this is them and like that’s creepy as
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hell um especially the first two they
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were even wearing like the same glasses
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but like I saw of the Dayton shooter he
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was wearing the same type of glasses
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okay yeah I mean you’ve got three
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relatively generic looking kind of
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unremarkable white guys that are all
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roughly in the same age but then five
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years of each other just really really
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really creepy and two had roughly the
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same motivation and the third one had
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different motivation but although
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ultimately they all had the same
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motivation they wanted government to be
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harming other people to their benefit
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and they got sick of waiting and decided
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to take matters into their own hands
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which is I mean it’s a horrific thing
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and it’s it’s it’s what happens when a
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lot of these people become political
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radicals as they do these kind of
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attacks on people it’s really sad it is
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it is really sad and everybody’s always
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looking for the answer on you know well
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what race is the person or what the
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political affiliation is the person or
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what religion is the person or
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whatever and none of that matters no it
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doesn’t matter
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um Fotini henderson asks if i donated
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for a limerick will you brown paper wrap
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it sure yes um our friend bass over at
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YouTube says they look like they could
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all be muddied waters hosts and okay
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yeah I’m I think we look better than I
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know we do I mean we definitely I mean
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just the cheekbones like what I mean
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we have no we’ve got much better
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we have classically chiseled feature I
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have their glasses yes and he does
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usually as well yes but behind those
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glasses is something pretty spectacular
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he’s got laughter in his eyes I’ve got
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the joy of the whole world in this hand
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so we got some great stuff that happened
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as a result of this because it wasn’t
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bad enough that a bunch of people were
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killed by maniacs as per usual we’re
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used to hearing from the Democratic side
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of the field whenever any kind of
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tragedy like this happens that this is a
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reason to take everyone’s guns we’re
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gonna take the guns we got to take the
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big especially the big black scary long
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guns that are scary-looking we got to
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get rid of those and even though the
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vast majority of shootings are from just
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regular handguns that are not I mean
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that are not you know scary assault
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weapons which are basically medium game
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hunting rifles um
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but sadly we live in a new era you see
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conservatives are the progressives of
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fifteen to twenty years prior and we’ve
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now caught up to the late 90s and so now
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conservatives are pretty well down the
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road of doing at least some bands of
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guns and the ability to get guns so
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Donald Trump tweeted we cannot let those
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in El Paso Texas and Dayton Ohio die in
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vain it’s interesting that he didn’t
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mention Gilroy but I I don’t think that
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was a deliberate snub yeah I don’t think
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it would done something I think he’d
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done a tweet on Gilroy beforehand so I
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think they because it’s Donald Trump
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it’s whatever’s happening right now
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yeah I don’t yeah I don’t think that was
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you know he’s he’s glad that Gilroy
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happen or whatever but anyway he said
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likewise for those who seriously wounded
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we can never forget them and those who
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came before them
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Republicans and Democrats must come
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together and get strong background
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checks and then he talks about
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potentially marrying it to immigration
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reform so that you can have the
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government control your guns and your
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ability to travel and so so some are
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saying well Owen and Dan Crenshaw he did
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the same or as we now call him dan fudge
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Shaw who said the solutions aren’t
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obvious even if we pretend they are but
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we must try let’s start with the taps
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act maybe also implement state red flag
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laws or gun violence restraining orders
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stop them before they can hurt someone
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the problem of course with this is some
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people are saying well they’re not
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calling for banning guns you say they’re
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calling for limiting who can get the
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guns and that’s completely different um
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and in some ways that’s way worse yeah
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it seems like that’s actually well I
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mean I don’t know if it’s way worse but
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it’s it’s the different it’s a different
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side of the same coin
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and they both are awful
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both are awful you yes anytime that
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something like this happens it is a try
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it’s a travesty
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to purely tragedy like in I don’t know
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anybody out there with the exception of
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people who are rooting for the white
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nationalists or anything like that who
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are happy when something like this no no
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no no no I can’t there is not a single
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person out there like everybody’s like
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oh yeah the NRA is probably happy about
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yeah no they’re not no one is happy
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about this
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nobody is happy when something like this
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happens no it is awful and you’re get a
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ton of politicians and pond
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and even people who even people who do
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you know what we what we do except on a
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much smaller scale right possible but
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but people who do what we do and they do
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a motion based they want emotion based
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legislation right and you don’t think
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about the fact that emotion based
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legislation ends up restricting the
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future for well the rest of society yeah
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yeah and it’s like oh well we need to
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fix this here we need to fix this now we
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need to do something we need to do this
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BAM this is done right
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it ends up with people down the line not
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being able to protect themselves or not
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being able to travel freely or not being
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able to pick any pick any freedom or
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right that you love you know not being
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able to say with the words that you want
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to say because you might end up being
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thrown in jail or fined or whatever or
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killed or killed right you could end up
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dead Hill yeah yeah Oh side note Chris
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Reynolds found out about eight can today
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[Music]
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he asked me he was like what is H and I
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was like it’s like 4chan it’s for shame
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times two without the class it’s fortune
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without like the redeeming like
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wholesome memes and and you know people
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talking about how well their day went
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it’s just pure hate um and he’s right
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there’s definitely a lot of people
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that’s very happy again hey Chan is
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4chan without the class so I mean that
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kind of gives you an idea of who’s happy
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yeah this is not the general public
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that’s happy or even the general Trump
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supporting public or the general Liz
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Warren supporting public or the vast
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majority of people who are not total
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sociopaths are not happy that this
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happened that this is not no one’s
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cheering that this happened we’re all
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horrified by this we’re also worried
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about the unintended or possibly
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intended consequences of some of this
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legislation that’s
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proposed oh by the way you know we did
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mention that the Democrats are the
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Republicans had had you know we had
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Trump with his tweet and we had a
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Crenshaw with his tweet and apparently
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my beloved marianne williamson also
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tweeted something and so the kid signed
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it up just a little bit i mean it was
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just a thing that she said that it’s you
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know whatever i’m sorry short long story
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short see she wasn’t happy about
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outlawing something something that i
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don’t remember
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oh yeah hillary clinton jumped out on
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the we need to get rid of all the guns
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yeah every every democrat out there is
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and many republicans are doing the exact
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same thing because there is no real
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difference between the two main parties
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not not at this point no it’s it’s a
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rhetoric thing and even their rhetoric
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there’s less and less daylight between
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their rhetoric what conservatives are
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doing is saying well instead of beating
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any type of gun we just need to limit
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who gets them but here’s the problem
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with that if we banned let’s say we
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banned ar-15s and guns that are similar
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to a or 15s which means pretty much any
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medium to small caliber semi-automatic
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hunting rifle and the result of that
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would be that you couldn’t buy those
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anymore legally and if you committed a
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crime and used one of those you’d have
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an additional charge the odds of them
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just like with this bump stock thing you
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don’t see the ATF out trying to you know
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kicking down people’s door looking for
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bump stocks just because it’s not
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practical to try to do that what you
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would have is you know gun buybacks and
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amnesties and whatever and most people
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would just hold on to their guns the
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problem with these red flag laws is that
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all it takes and I’m not as familiar
29:06
with the taps Act I’m not sure do you
29:08
know what the taps Act is no I’m not as
29:11
familiar with the taps Act no problem
29:16
yeah I’ll look it up in a second but the
29:19
thing with the red flag laws the red
29:20
flag laws were designed that if you know
29:23
someone who is potentially an eminent
29:25
threat to you know those around them and
29:27
them in a threat to others you can call
29:29
the
29:29
and the police can come and tell the
29:32
person we’re taking your gun temporarily
29:35
until we can figure out if everything’s
29:37
okay it’s like a wellness check but also
29:39
they confiscate your gun which is a
29:41
violation of your Fourth Amendment
29:42
rights your second Amendment right it’s
29:44
violation of your freedoms and it has
29:46
killed I think I think something like
29:48
ten people have already been killed by
29:49
police in various red flag law
29:52
situations where they were not
29:53
committing any crime they were in their
29:55
own home and the police showed up and
29:57
told them I’m taking your gun because
29:59
someone called and told the police on
30:01
you which if you’ve ever had a meme
30:03
reported on Facebook or you know ever
30:06
ever had anyone report you on social
30:08
media those are the people who are gonna
30:10
get mad at you find out what your
30:12
address and name are and call the police
30:14
and say that you’re a danger and to go
30:15
pick you up so it’s it’s a really
30:16
dangerous thing these red flag laws
30:19
right and the taps act doesn’t look like
30:21
it’s much better I just I just did a
30:23
quick google on it and it opens with for
30:28
decades the process to identify
30:29
investigate assess and mitigate threats
30:31
has been in place to counter targeted
30:34
violence pioneered by the Secret Service
30:36
if it you if it works to protect the
30:38
president elected officials foreign
30:40
dignitaries buh-buh-buh why are we using
30:42
it to protect our children and local
30:43
communities which anytime that somebody
30:45
says we need to do this for the children
30:48
I automatically question it because they
30:51
are using that as a political tool and
30:54
in it it’s a dirty trick
30:57
yes writing a motion out of people but
31:00
it will standardize and provide a
31:02
behavioral threat assessment and
31:04
management process across the federal
31:07
government provide the states with
31:10
training resources and support needed to
31:12
stand up community based
31:15
multidisciplinary behavioral threat
31:17
assessments and basically if you start
31:19
what this is saying is if you’re acting
31:21
in a way that somebody sees a behavioral
31:25
threat they can come in and try and take
31:28
your weapons is what or arrest you
31:32
is what it sounds like really quick
31:35
google search and yeah and that’s on a
31:40
brain bobbins website
31:43
Brian babban shout out to Brian babban
31:45
we uh that sounds like pre-crime right
31:49
yeah exactly it’s it’s Minority Report
31:51
yeah it’s like we without the technology
31:55
you’re acting chair just with jerks on
31:57
databases going yeah let’s thank has
31:59
gone uh it sounds like it’s like if you
32:02
express frustration online and say you
32:06
know this person this to throw this guy
32:08
in a wood chipper or something like that
32:09
now you’re gonna have Secret Service
32:11
after you instead of dealing with that
32:14
we already have laws against making
32:16
terroristic threats so this is going a
32:18
step past that and saying well if you
32:20
start to act kind of funny then you know
32:23
what we’re gonna step in and do
32:24
something bass says I’m sure no jilted
32:27
lovers will ever use this act
32:28
maliciously exactly like this is this is
32:32
a really really really really bad idea
32:35
and Trump also tweeted that you know
32:37
that some stuff about you know video
32:40
games which is that there’s your First
32:43
Amendment so Sarah Sarah and reg she
32:48
said as a parent start not as a parent
32:51
on the airplane I’m on right now is
32:53
talking about the shootings and ranting
32:55
about video games being the influence
32:57
yeah no he’s definitely I remember he I
33:01
remember hearing this twin Columbine
33:02
happened yeah it was the video games and
33:05
people blamed the movie heathers
33:07
and which I thought yeah I hate yeah but
33:16
they they constantly look and blame
33:21
anything they can except for what needs
33:24
to be blamed and in all honesty of the I
33:29
think it’s of the 27 people who have
33:34
been arrested for mass shootings this
33:35
year I think it’s 27 them don’t quote me
33:37
on that number
33:38
I think 26 of them grew up without a dad
33:41
they found father figures in other areas
33:43
that weren’t good people and they ended
33:46
up this was sort of the road that they
33:50
went down like right I’m not somebody
33:53
who’s like yeah you need a strong
33:54
nuclear family blah blah blah but in
33:57
cases having a dad in the picture having
33:59
a dad an imam in the picture it’s
34:03
important to the growth of a human
34:07
especially for this particular problem
34:09
which is like men with problem young men
34:13
with problems who you know decide that
34:15
this is the best way to do it and not
34:17
just with you know we white mass
34:19
shooters but there are you know a lot of
34:22
people get attack that when a you know
34:24
when a black person commits a violent
34:25
crime we call them thugs and you know
34:27
scum or whatever and and say that you
34:29
know that’s just how they are or
34:30
whatever and when we talk about white
34:32
people we start talking about the roots
34:33
of what cause but this is just as true
34:35
with a lot of these you know young black
34:37
men that are that are getting caught up
34:38
in in violent stuff and white men and
34:41
everything else I think whether it’s a
34:43
father or whatever else most boys if
34:46
they don’t have a strong positive male
34:51
role model in their lives I think that
34:54
are they all gonna become mass shooters
34:56
or criminals or whatever no but I think
34:57
it presents potential problems are there
35:01
mass shooters who had great family
35:03
structures and everything else
35:04
absolutely but I think you know Shaun
35:06
said just treat each other like human
35:08
beings as the start of the solution I
35:09
think you have a lot of people that have
35:11
learned to be dehumanized and dehumanize
35:15
others and by the time they’re in their
35:18
20s they’re weaponized they’re ready to
35:20
kill people and have been for quite some
35:22
time but now they have the means and
35:24
ability to actually do so and it’s um
35:26
it’s scary as hell I mean going back to
35:29
this video game thing first of all so
35:33
this is a Boomer refrain this is a
35:35
common Boomer refrain that it’s not
35:38
they’re not the only one saying it but
35:39
they’re the ones you’re most likely to
35:40
hear from that you know the video games
35:43
are just so realistic and they’re fully
35:45
immersive and they’re killing people
35:46
they’ve been saying this since the days
35:47
of like Nintendo 64 with like James Bond
35:50
Goldeneye and stuff like that as soon
35:52
even with like Wolfenstein 3d and stuff
35:55
later yeah yeah but I mean especially
35:57
with like this the first-person shooters
35:59
when like doom and Wolfenstein 3d and
36:02
stuff came out on account the average
36:06
boomer what went was raised on cartoons
36:11
with the characters gleefully and
36:13
routinely murdered each other multiple
36:15
times in an episode and the whole
36:18
episode was about how they needed to
36:20
murder each other for various like
36:22
trivial reasons I don’t like this rabbit
36:26
I’m gonna murder him well and then
36:31
what’s that wabbit
36:33
I’m sorry wabbit I don’t like this
36:36
wabbit I’m gonna morto him
36:38
this wascally wabbit I have to moidu him
36:42
and that was that was a terrible Elmer
36:47
Fudd and I apologize but so they were
36:51
raised on that and then they’d go
36:53
outside and dress like cowboys and
36:56
indigenous peoples and they would and
36:58
they would shoot at each other with cap
37:01
guns that had little bits of gunpowder
37:03
in it now you got me that some of these
37:06
3d games are pretty immersive and pretty
37:08
realistic there is nothing more
37:09
realistic than walking up to your friend
37:11
and pointing a revolver at him and
37:13
shooting him in the head and he goes ah
37:14
I got some of that on my face cuz you
37:16
know it pops out and whatever like I was
37:18
that last generation of kids that had
37:20
cap guns and they had already made them
37:22
less powerful and you could still hurt
37:24
someone just being close enough to them
37:25
that it just kind of burned them a
37:27
little that’s far more immersive than
37:29
anything in the newest Halo or Red Dead
37:33
Redemption or what-have-you like I mean
37:35
it’s like when a grand theft auto was
37:38
the biggest game out there and yeah
37:41
people really oh this is gonna cause
37:43
people don’t want to go around and
37:45
kidnap hookers and kill them and steal
37:49
tanks well stealing tanks you know who
37:52
doesn’t want to steal a tank let’s be
37:54
clear let’s be clear here but not
37:57
everybody is gonna play Grand Theft Auto
38:01
and then go okay well now I need to go
38:03
find a hooker and then take the money
38:06
that I paid her for sex and killer like
38:11
you know no I never did were the people
38:15
that wanted to do that before playing
38:16
the game yeah yeah and the same thing
38:19
with movies music whatever you want to
38:21
blame on these external things
38:25
if you take someone that’s got some
38:26
serious problems and expose them to this
38:28
stuff is there gonna be a problem yeah
38:30
but that’s always been the case people
38:33
used to like again if you look at the
38:35
cartoons of today where people are
38:37
outraged because there’s like a gay
38:39
character or something it’s like oh my
38:40
gosh at least it’s you know that’s so
38:43
much worse than loony toons where Bugs
38:45
Bunny would dress up like a woman
38:47
make out with Elmer Fudd and then murder
38:49
him we had like it’s just there’s always
38:56
been and if you listened to like the
38:58
jazz music and the rhythm of blues music
39:01
of the 10th of the 1910s and 20s and 30s
39:04
it’s I mean they talk about violence and
39:07
sex and everything else like this myth
39:11
that you know you’re gonna have more
39:14
murder if if the games or movies are
39:18
more violent it’s just if anything those
39:20
things are a catharsis that you know can
39:23
can help people vent and and not explode
39:27
let’s also talk about the fact that the
39:29
murder rate has been steadily dropping
39:30
since the 1970s even with these mass
39:34
shootings the murder rate is down
39:36
markedly from its peak in the in the in
39:38
the 70s which is when gun control was at
39:40
its highest as gun control went down so
39:43
did the murder rate I’m not saying that
39:45
there’s a direct cause of correlation
39:46
I’m saying that that is a very powerful
39:48
data point against the narrative that
39:50
gun control saves lives it doesn’t at
39:53
least not in the US you know the quote
39:58
Eminem who I don’t quote often but you
40:00
can blame it on there when Marilyn or
40:03
the heroine but where were the parents
40:04
uh that’s why I didn’t have kids
40:10
that’s not sure but so can’t blame this
40:15
on either of us right because we don’t
40:17
have kids yeah it the thing is the the
40:22
the entire week was a tragedy and it’s
40:28
awful and I know a lot of people say
40:33
that if you don’t want to do something
40:36
about it you don’t care about human life
40:37
and that’s just
40:38
no that’s a little bit.you you still
40:44
care about human life you cared deeply
40:46
about human life it’s you want people to
40:50
be able to protect themselves in all
40:52
circumstances everywhere yeah that is
40:56
the difference maker in my mind hey yeah
41:00
you disagree with me and that’s fine and
41:03
I know like a lot of my a lot of my
41:05
friends I’ve known for a long time they
41:06
they do disagree with me they think that
41:08
because I’m not for gun control and I
41:09
think that I should be able to own
41:11
whatever weapon I want I don’t care
41:14
about human life and you know I’m part
41:16
of the problem and I’m allowing this
41:17
stuff to happen but no it’s you see it
41:23
one way I see a different way and the
41:25
only difference is I want to be able to
41:28
protect me my family my friends if a
41:33
situation ever arises and that’s all it
41:35
is
41:36
that’s right that’s literally what it is
41:38
my thing is I’m an anarchist I don’t I
41:40
was 40 minutes in here’s my little
41:43
anarchists rant the US government is
41:45
both the largest terrorist organization
41:46
in the largest black market arms dealer
41:48
in human history they operate a massive
41:52
brutal global empire that results in the
41:55
massacre of civilians countless numbers
41:59
of civilians every year they also
42:01
operate a the largest prison population
42:04
in human history both in terms of
42:07
percentage of the population and raw
42:09
numbers it’s actually going down
42:10
slightly over the last five four five to
42:13
six years but it’s a huge prison
42:16
population make up a quarter of the the
42:19
current prison population despite making
42:21
up 4% of the total human population uh
42:25
most of those people that are in jail
42:27
are people of color poor people and
42:29
people of color who are in there for
42:32
victimless crimes where they didn’t
42:34
actually harm anybody any talk about
42:38
reducing violence particularly gun
42:40
violence or weapons violence but
42:42
violence in general oh and the leaders
42:45
of this government are constantly
42:47
dehumanizing someone in some form or
42:49
another whether it’s foreign people or
42:50
immigrants or or
42:51
you know white male gun owners or
42:53
whatever they’re dehumanizing someone to
42:56
create an enemy and a scapegoat to blame
42:59
all of society’s ails on and when you
43:02
when so all these things all these
43:04
things combined tell me that any
43:05
conversation about reducing violence
43:07
that isn’t centered around disarming or
43:09
at least greatly reducing the size scope
43:12
power and lethality of the US government
43:15
is not a serious discussion about ending
43:17
violence it’s it’s a discussion about
43:19
fear of people with you know individual
43:22
people with guns but it isn’t it isn’t
43:24
actually a serious data-driven
43:26
discussion about ending violence so
43:32
there yeah so we had some I guess good
43:35
news or silver linings in the El Paso
43:37
shooting there was a guy named Glenn
43:39
Oakley who is a total total hero Matt I
43:43
think you know a little bit more about
43:45
Glenn before I played this video
43:47
Glenn Oakley hang on once a Curtis
43:51
Lupton said so murder rates are down but
43:52
immigrants have raised murder to record
43:55
highs we didn’t say that right yeah no
43:58
we’ve never said that immigrants both
44:01
legal and illegal are statistically less
44:04
likely to commit violent crimes than
44:06
Americans and American citizens are in
44:08
fact there is the massive influx of
44:12
immigrants to the u.s. in the 90s
44:14
actually contributed to the overall
44:16
reduction in the violent crime rate
44:18
because they they increased the overall
44:21
population by a pretty good jump without
44:23
providing a correlating increase in
44:26
violent crime so no we’ve never we’ve
44:30
never said that not here okay yeah I was
44:33
like I don’t think we said that but I’m
44:34
double check that if Curtis we also
44:39
don’t want a wall yeah we don’t agree
44:43
with the wall we don’t we don’t agree
44:45
with a wall right so Glenn Oakley he was
44:48
a he was a member of the military he was
44:52
hanging out at footlocker next door to
44:56
next door to the Walmart the Walmart
44:58
yeah yeah some kids ran in and they’re
45:00
like somebody shooting at the Walmart
45:02
and they were like okay and he thought
45:04
that the
45:05
he thought that the kids were joking or
45:07
whatever initially and so he walked
45:10
outside and he says that he heard the
45:12
pop pop and so he pulls out his gun he
45:17
pulls out his gun and goes just to check
45:19
it out but and he saw kids running and
45:23
he’s grabbing the kids and trying to get
45:24
him out of there and then the police
45:26
stopped him because they thought he may
45:28
have been the shooter and Glenn Oakley
45:30
is a black he’s black I was like black
45:34
gentleman black person black at like
45:38
that he’s black him so the police
45:40
stopped him he showed him that you know
45:41
he was like look I’m licensed to carry
45:43
I’m not the shooter they said that there
45:46
was a shooter in there right right they
45:48
stopped him from going in which so he
45:51
ended up going and grabbing kids and
45:54
running a wave with them and saved
45:57
multiple at least pulled him away from
46:00
the danger and it was it was really
46:05
brave for him to do everything that he
46:07
did
46:08
and when somebody messaged him about it
46:10
and said hey what you did was really
46:12
great he replied with I could have done
46:15
better yeah yeah so this is this is a
46:18
short video where he was interviewed
46:21
shortly after the shooting first of all
46:22
just the fact keep in mind when you’re
46:24
listening to this this just happened
46:27
like I think so just the composure of
46:31
this guy to even like talk about it
46:32
coherently so here’s the video of him
46:34
talking about what what had just
46:36
happened in El Paso New Jersey a little
46:38
kid runs and it’s almost I can shoot a
46:40
warm-up of me into god that’s a he’s a
46:43
kid we didn’t believe him so I walk up
46:44
and I’ll go to Foot Locker
46:46
fuck fuck I got my last kiss off with my
46:49
gun out
46:49
I just gotta hide they closed the
46:53
footlocker and something something
46:55
winter never so secure the cage I see a
47:03
whole bunch of kids well you know what
47:04
their peers though so I got my bag man
47:06
I’m trying to pick them up warm up as
47:07
many as I can’t just run out but they’re
47:09
so like you know anxious my jumping out
47:11
of my hand so ambushed I could do for
47:13
the kids so I just made my way out and
47:16
when I got up I guess one of the cops
47:19
thought I would shoot or something so I
47:20
had it like so my clipping stuff summons
47:22
the Fukai comply skate he’s fine go out
47:24
I caught a friend something to pick up
47:26
my gun I’m here now
47:29
it was just a whole bunch of kids up in
47:31
there
47:36
we’re never out there stuff I try to
47:38
pick up as many as I couldn’t bring it
47:40
about I was just so worried about those
47:42
kids man could tell me there’s more than
47:45
one shooter I heard it was bored and I’m
47:48
just worried about this kid I wouldn’t
47:49
really worry I was trying to pick up the
47:50
kids man I wasn’t by myself so you know
48:03
that’s ink I mean he’s upset he didn’t
48:07
do more weight he’s worried about the
48:10
kids
48:14
incredible compose again like I like you
48:21
you were just you know apart potentially
48:24
gonna you know engage a shooter and
48:26
dealing with the cops and knowing that
48:28
they see a guy whether they got forget a
48:30
black guy with a gun guy with a gun
48:31
period any guy with a gun
48:33
was showing up to a shooting you know
48:36
you’re already you know ready for the
48:38
worst and so to go through all that and
48:41
then and then still be that composed
48:44
that’s incredible there’s that um that
48:47
quote from mr. Rogers when he says that
48:49
you know whenever a terrible thing would
48:50
happen on TV his mother would say you
48:52
know look for the helpers and you know
48:55
focus on the people that are doing the
48:57
good in the most terrible situations
48:59
this is a perfect example of that like
49:02
this guy is the quintessential helper
49:05
and I have nothing but good things to
49:08
say about the guy um so one of the
49:13
things that everybody always does is
49:14
they always report on the shooters or
49:16
you know the people who caused these
49:18
events to happen yeah you know the
49:20
so-and-so he grew up in whatever you
49:23
know he’s this old this is his
49:25
background but yeah those aren’t the
49:28
people I ever want to remember I want to
49:30
remember the Glen oakley’s I whenever
49:31
the people who actually went out and you
49:35
know they tried to help or they did help
49:37
yeah and right they did what they could
49:40
to make a difference because those are
49:43
the people that matter those are the
49:45
people that are important those are the
49:48
people
49:49
we should be celebrating we shouldn’t be
49:51
talking about the different shooters in
49:54
the different cases this is one of the
49:57
first times I don’t even know the
49:58
shooters names because I didn’t even
49:59
want to learn him yeah yeah I saw Glenn
50:03
Oakley and I said you know what Glenn
50:04
Oakley deserves to be remembered Glenn
50:06
Oakley deserves to be talked about yeah
50:09
yeah absolutely yeah I I get why we talk
50:15
about the shooters I get it like there’s
50:19
this sort of morbid curiosity as to what
50:22
drove them to do it there is this um the
50:27
politicians line up to you know blame
50:29
you know the rhetoric of the other side
50:31
or whatever for the actual you know
50:33
shooting that happened so I get why it
50:35
happens it just isn’t actually helpful
50:38
to anyone like it doesn’t it doesn’t
50:41
help uh and to look at I think it’s way
50:46
more helpful to look at someone like a
50:48
Glenn Oakley as a I’m not saying every
50:51
single person is built to rush into a
50:53
Walmart during a shooting but to look at
50:55
people who are actually trying to help
50:57
I’m sure there are many other heroes
50:59
people trying to raise money for
51:00
funerals and and and hospital expenses
51:03
and you know people that are helping
51:05
with blood drives and all that sorts of
51:07
stuff I think if we focused if we got
51:12
the politics and the morbid curiosity
51:13
out of it and focused on the people that
51:17
helped after these terrible things these
51:19
people that who decide to help others
51:22
which way outnumber the people trying to
51:25
harm for every shooter there’s probably
51:27
a couple hundred people out there trying
51:29
to help in one way or another however
51:31
they can um I think that we focus on
51:35
them because I think that that makes
51:37
this it doesn’t make it any less scary
51:39
or any less terrible what happened but
51:42
it puts in perspective that this world
51:44
isn’t filled with shooters it’s filled
51:46
with helpers and there are a couple
51:47
really bad people and we shouldn’t leave
51:49
people defenseless to those really bad
51:51
people so we have a we have a video and
52:02
one second we have a video from one of
52:05
the libertarian presidential candidates
52:07
dan Berman who wanted to talk about some
52:09
of the rhetoric coming from these
52:10
shootings and from the people that did
52:12
the shootings this is not an endorsement
52:13
of Dan Berman’s campaign we definitely
52:16
like him we’ve had him on Matt’s show
52:17
probably an upcoming end of the show and
52:20
Dan’s in front of the show and a friend
52:21
a friend of ours but yeah we’re not
52:25
endorsing anybody’s campaign it’s just
52:27
it’s a good video and we wanted to share
52:31
it it’s a great video and a great
52:33
message and and so we’re gonna play that
52:35
play that now from Dan Berman let’s talk
52:37
about mass shootings over the weekend
52:39
there were three in America before I say
52:41
anything else just know that this video
52:43
is not to attack any of our political
52:44
leaders and it’s not to favor any
52:46
policies on the left or the right right
52:49
now everyone is trying to point blame to
52:51
politicians for these violent shootings
52:52
Elizabeth Warren even blamed Donald
52:55
Trump in a tweet despite the fact that
52:57
one of the shooters was one of her
52:58
supporters another of these shooters was
53:00
a Trump supporter who left behind a
53:02
manifesto citing that his motive was the
53:05
Hispanic invasion this is rhetoric that
53:08
Trump has said repeatedly is not just
53:10
shootings either people are running over
53:12
their political opponents with cars or
53:14
attacking them for wearing the wrong hat
53:15
this is what we have to understand it is
53:17
not the fault of these politicians but
53:19
they are not clear from responsibility
53:21
people listen to their leaders that is a
53:24
great power and with great power comes
53:26
great responsibility
53:28
emotions are powerful they create strong
53:31
bonds between people and ideas they
53:33
allow people to be influenced and even
53:35
controlled politicians often take on
53:37
challenging positions on emotionally
53:40
charged issues because they know it will
53:42
gain the loyalty of followers the media
53:44
which is largely driven by ratings
53:46
constantly seeks to exploit our emotions
53:49
to increase viewership we are constantly
53:52
bombarded with emotional bait to guide
53:54
our actions these actions usually amount
53:56
to paying our taxes voting
53:58
and letting the politicians handle the
54:00
rest for some this just isn’t enough
54:02
thinking with our emotions often leads
54:05
to bad decisions especially for those
54:07
who are taking matters into their own
54:08
hands
54:09
they will commit terrible acts of
54:10
violence not directly prompted by the
54:13
leaders they follow but fueled by
54:15
emotions that those leaders triggered I
54:17
often discuss very emotional issues and
54:20
some of my supporters have suggested
54:22
they want to engage in acts of violence
54:24
to achieve our goals
54:25
I know emotions can run high over these
54:27
very sensitive issues and so as their
54:30
leader I tell them not to engage in
54:32
violence sometimes they’ll try to
54:34
justify it and point out that the people
54:36
they want to commit violence against are
54:38
actually the criminals and I might even
54:39
agree with them but I tell them there
54:42
has to be another way because I don’t
54:43
want a civil war even if they downplay
54:46
these suggestions as a joke I still take
54:48
them seriously I’m calling on Donald
54:51
Trump Elizabeth Warren and every other
54:53
politician to do the same we cannot be
54:55
held liable for the acts of our
54:57
followers if we did not instruct them to
54:59
commit acts of violence but we have a
55:01
responsibility to let them know that we
55:03
do not support those acts of violence if
55:05
they look up to us they will listen we
55:07
need to stop saying hateful things to
55:09
our political opponents knowing they
55:11
will incite emotional reactions while I
55:13
absolutely believe it in our right to
55:15
free speech and the right to say those
55:16
things leaders should be held to a
55:18
higher standard and set an example for
55:20
others if as Trump says hatred does not
55:23
belong in this country we need to stop
55:26
inciting hatred against others it’s time
55:29
our leaders started taking
55:30
responsibility with their influential
55:32
powers and their own followers united we
55:34
stand divided we fall
55:36
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55:40
yeah absolutely I mean I this is one of
55:46
the problems Matt when we have and this
55:49
is the problem the democratic system in
55:51
general when you have when the power is
55:54
when you centralize power but then allow
55:57
the people in general to to directly
56:01
access that centralized power through
56:04
their vote
56:05
what ends up happening is it doesn’t
56:07
become a decentralization of power what
56:09
it becomes is your friends and neighbors
56:12
and loved ones becoming your adversaries
56:15
if they disagree with you on anything
56:18
not just your adversaries or or someone
56:21
that disagrees with you but now they’re
56:22
your enemy potentially they’re trying to
56:24
take your rights and what happens as a
56:27
result of that is ever-increasing
56:30
warlike rhetoric from both sides and
56:33
what we’ve seen more and more recently
56:34
is that the leaders of these different
56:37
movements and parties are more and more
56:39
likely to either directly inflame that
56:42
kind of rhetoric or at least just kind
56:44
of stand back and and let it go we’re
56:48
not going to hear from the media at
56:51
large the at least not the left-wing
56:53
part of the media that one of the
56:56
shooters was a Liz Warren supporter like
56:58
that’s not going to enter the narrative
57:00
that these are white nationalist Trump
57:02
supporters that are doing these
57:04
shootings it’s just it’s not it doesn’t
57:05
match it and so it’s not gonna be talked
57:07
about just like we’re not really talking
57:09
about the the the shootings over the
57:12
weekend in in Chicago where 42 people
57:15
were shot and in an area with very heavy
57:18
gun control because that doesn’t match
57:20
the media narrative that doesn’t change
57:23
the fact that Liz Warren Donald Trump by
57:28
talking about in dehumanizing and
57:30
talking about people that don’t agree
57:32
with them as though they’re bad people
57:35
not just people with a difference of
57:36
opinion um it leads to that the if
57:40
you’re already kind of damaged to begin
57:42
with and you’re hearing that there are
57:43
these terrible people whether they’re
57:45
immigrants conservatives foreigners
57:48
Muslims white Christians whatever there
57:51
terrible people they’re ruining
57:52
everything there are threat to your
57:54
existence and someone’s got to do
57:56
something well if you’re someone that
57:59
isn’t like most people and you’re
58:01
already looking for a reason to harm
58:02
people
58:03
you just got your reason right which
58:11
there there’s so many different things
58:16
that could be talked about about this I
58:25
every time we have to do one of these
58:27
shows it in which you know it’s been
58:30
happening more and more recently but
58:31
yeah it it’s not easy it’s not easy for
58:37
anybody these are hard times for
58:40
everybody out there and they end up
58:45
becoming much more divisive for
58:47
everybody because you get the people who
58:50
react to these things and they want to
58:53
enact gun control because they think
58:55
that’s going to help and then you have
58:56
the people who don’t want to enact gun
58:57
control right a larger divide and the
59:03
narratives and people get more upset and
59:06
now the hatred grows and it gets so much
59:11
more difficult to have regular normal
59:16
debate as opposed to just vitriol being
59:20
spewed back and forth between the two
59:22
you know everything turns straw man and
59:27
it’s oh you hate children because you
59:29
don’t believe in gun control and you you
59:32
want a big police state where the police
59:34
will be able to come in and just murder
59:36
your dog if yeah you do and it just
59:39
turns into this huge powder keg of
59:41
emotion between everybody and I mean it
59:46
is so hard to talk about every time but
59:53
we but we all of us everybody having
59:55
listened to everybody watching we have
59:58
to be able to talk about it and we have
60:00
to be able to have civil conversation
60:03
about everything
60:04
without getting to the point of reaching
60:09
hatred because that’s Star Wars taught
60:14
us you know he has a lot of hate what is
60:19
it it’s been so long since I’ve seen
60:21
that fear leads to anger anger leads to
60:26
hate hate oh oh yeah okay yeah as you
60:31
lost me I’m like it’s at your app I
60:33
don’t know um your fear leads to anger
60:35
anger leads to hate hate leads to the
60:38
dark side and both this argument for
60:42
both sides leads to fear in both sides
60:45
you know and then discuss it which leads
60:47
to anger and the anger then leads to
60:50
hate and then somebody who has gone to
60:55
the dark side does something and it
60:58
starts that cycle all over again ya know
61:01
it’s it’s an absolutely terrible thing
61:03
it doesn’t help to feed the flames and
61:05
if you’re like me or Matt or or you know
61:09
most of our followers and listeners and
61:11
viewers I’m sure are libertarian or
61:14
libertarian leaning but if you’re like
61:15
us where everyone else disagrees with us
61:18
we don’t have a huge base of people that
61:20
agree with us on everything when I talk
61:23
about guns invariably someone’s going to
61:29
tell me that you know I need to talk to
61:31
one of these you know mass shooter
61:33
survivors and and you know and try to
61:35
tell them that I don’t care about their
61:36
children which is not what I said
61:38
if I talk about immigration invariably
61:42
someone’s gonna tell me that I need to
61:43
talk to one of these one of these angel
61:45
parents who lost their children to a
61:47
violent illegal immigrant and tell them
61:49
that I want us to be overrun with
61:50
terrorists and ms-13 members which is
61:52
not what I said
61:54
this is what happens when politicians
61:58
can’t just say I support this because I
62:02
think this is what’s gonna result in it
62:03
I worry about what happens if we don’t
62:05
do it that doesn’t get you attention on
62:07
the news channels that doesn’t get you
62:09
votes that doesn’t get you blind support
62:11
what gets you support is talking about
62:13
you know invaders and terrorists
62:18
like using the most hyperbolic language
62:20
about everything all the time so that
62:23
you whip people up into if you have
62:26
people that are in their 60s and 70s who
62:28
will get read of all ages but especially
62:31
in that age group they will get red in
62:33
the face telling you that you are an
62:36
enemy of all good things because like
62:38
you don’t support
62:39
I don’t know visa limitations or some
62:43
ridiculous pedestrian thing that is a
62:46
serious issue but it’s just it’s just
62:49
insane
62:50
it’s just insane it is and you see it
62:54
like we’re in the middle of an election
62:56
cycle and we’re gonna go into it after
62:59
the paid sponsorship but you see it
63:06
especially in an election cycle at the
63:08
debates last week Don Lemon I think was
63:13
Don Lemon it may have been Jake Tapper
63:14
one of them asked you know with Trump’s
63:18
recent racist tweets and do you consider
63:20
him to be a white supremacist I don’t
63:22
remember the exact wording of the
63:23
question right he was utilizing Chris
63:28
Reynolds’s tilapia fixes no the hell it
63:30
does not listen thank you for having let
63:35
me do that Chris but he said you know he
63:40
said raise it you know do you think done
63:41
do you think Donald Trump is a racist or
63:44
a white nationalist or whatever and they
63:46
used these words that incite anger in
63:49
both sides because it’s like no you’re
63:51
calling somebody that in your dumbing
63:53
down the word racist org right right
63:56
white supremacist or you’re igniting the
64:00
other side but going yes he is one of
64:02
those things we need to get them out and
64:03
it’s just making both sides angry and
64:06
it’s creating more anger and it’s
64:08
creating more hatred and is dividing us
64:12
all the way on every issue because you
64:17
all politicians always talk in like you
64:21
said hyperbolic nature throwing out the
64:24
worst possible scenario and each side
64:27
always ends it with and don’t you care
64:29
about the children
64:30
the children and so if you get asked
64:34
that if any of those politicians that
64:37
said look I’m not ready to call Donald
64:39
Trump a white supremacist but I think
64:41
his rhetoric is not helpful and he at
64:43
times he’s dehumanizing people Allah did
64:46
get booed offstage their life might be
64:48
in danger because they’re in front of a
64:50
frothing crowd of people who want to
64:51
hear the absolute worst and the same
64:53
thing on the Republican side they don’t
64:55
want to hear nuanced language about
64:57
immigration they want to talk about
64:59
invaders and job stealers and gang that
65:02
ms-13 they’re all coming from ms-13
65:05
every single one of them is ms-13 and
65:07
it’s terrible and we need to be focusing
65:10
stop being angry and hateful to each
65:13
other and focus on the real enemy
65:16
talapia lovers people who tape for this
65:22
filthy disgusting animal that lives in
65:28
Vietnamese poop not that there’s
65:31
anything wrong it’s not the Vietnamese
65:33
part that’s the problem by the way for
65:35
those who think I’m anti yeah it’s it’s
65:38
it’s the it’s the poop part the fecal
65:42
matter is the issue here guys Maria and
65:45
Beau says God fixes things for me a good
65:47
flaky fish a good white fish Maria got
65:52
Cod a nice flaky light white fish low in
65:56
fat if that’s something that worries you
65:58
I sound very Jewish right now because
66:00
I’m talking about cod and fish just in
66:03
Jim just fish in general I get like this
66:05
a very good fish very good fish gun
66:10
what’s that how do you feel about sword
66:13
I like swordfish a lot but it’s super
66:16
high in mercury and so I tend to stay
66:19
away from it but it’s I like swordfish
66:21
you can cook swordfish to taste almost
66:24
like red meat it’s a really really
66:26
really good fish I really like swordfish
66:29
bass is a hundred percent correct if you
66:32
like to last watches I believe that bass
66:35
washes a little bit of a show called
66:37
letter kidding of what letter Kenny
66:41
based on that based on that quote alone
66:44
I think he watches Letterkenny I’m sure
66:48
that’s true never heard of it
66:49
Liz Perez swordfish is delicious it
66:51
really is sort of a grouper yeah my
66:57
grouper these are all delicious things
66:58
you know what else is delicious
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couldn’t possibly be but is it true well
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how do you know what I’m going to say
67:45
that you can easily is it true no it
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or work who got started yesterday after
68:31
a very lackluster presidential campaign
68:34
thus far that has left everyone
68:36
wondering why is beta won’t work running
68:39
for president he had a bit of a standout
68:43
moment I should have grabbed the video I
68:45
even have here that I’m gonna get it and
68:47
I didn’t yeah I saw that I didn’t see it
68:50
in there but I was like maybe spike has
68:52
it on his computer I definitely do not
68:54
okay so I really was on CNN
68:58
and Jake Tapper I’m oh good I didn’t put
69:05
some notes down for this I was just yeah
69:07
he didn’t he you did and uh Jake Tapper
69:10
same same thing as I said happened in
69:13
the debate same thing happened it was
69:14
just an interview just bait oh and Jake
69:17
and he said do you consider the
69:19
president to be a white supremacist and
69:22
Jake Tapper says yes sorry bata bata or
69:26
work says yes I do wish we had the video
69:28
because you know how we say but toe toe
69:32
toe he says it that way oh wow he said
69:36
but toe and I said he must be watching
69:40
our show but yeah and he said he started
69:48
saying man I wish I had more notes on
69:50
this I might still have this pulled up
69:54
somewhere no I know neat but he said yes
69:58
he’s a white supremacist we can’t
70:00
sugarcoat it we can’t go around it we
70:02
absolutely a hundred percent need to
70:05
call him what he is and he’s a racist
70:07
and it’s a white supremacist we saw it
70:08
on the campaign trail when we see it
70:09
with what he does and says now while
70:11
he’s in office right and so we I
70:15
actually I can at least at least can
70:18
play the audio for you to hear could you
70:22
hear that yeah okay so I can at least
70:24
play the audio because he wants to look
70:26
at bay door work let’s just be clear
70:28
about this but this is him being
70:30
interviewed outside of an event about
70:32
asking about Donald Trump what do you
70:38
think you know he’s been saying he’s
70:42
been calling that Mexican immigrants
70:43
rapists III don’t know like members of
70:47
the press what the hold on a second
70:50
you know III it’s it’s these um it’s
70:53
these questions that you know the
70:54
answers to
70:55
I mean connect the dots about what he’s
70:57
been doing in this country he’s not
70:59
tolerating racism he is promoting racism
71:01
he’s not tolerating violence he’s
71:03
inciting racism and violence in this
71:05
country so um you know I I just I don’t
71:09
know what kind of question that is
71:13
so I take hot take from beta or orc guys
71:23
beta work is not happy no they don’t
71:26
work is not happy yeah I was shocked
71:29
listening to that because that was the
71:30
first time I heard that one that was the
71:33
one I was talking about um no wait notes
71:37
next time yeah but no that was my fault
71:40
I complete I forgot to do it I make
71:42
amends for for two things one was for
71:45
trusting Shane when it came to food and
71:47
then the other thing is for for this
71:51
chris says beta meets needs more tilapia
71:53
he obviously just ate tilapia when he
71:58
did that he needed a Snickers is what he
72:02
needed although actually that’s that’s
72:03
that’s actually peak beta that’s really
72:05
who he is as a person um but if you
72:08
recall he he got a lot of attention
72:11
what’s that okay I’m down here talking
72:15
to you even though I could now imagine
72:20
if Matt was because I mean Matt’s like
72:22
average height Boehner works like 62 or
72:25
63 was that by definition yes I’m
72:28
average I like the literal average as am
72:30
i he’s like Bader’s a tall guy a tallest
72:36
lanky guy and he likes to get up on
72:38
counters and stages and chairs and cars
72:42
and then Thetas makes sense everything
72:44
else doesn’t stages makes sense
72:46
everything else is stupid
72:47
he’ll be in a group of like thirty
72:49
people and get up on a table so they can
72:51
all see him because they couldn’t see
72:52
him just standing there and then he gets
72:55
down negating the entire point of
72:58
getting up on the table right um no I’m
73:00
one of you guys that’s why I’m up on
73:02
this damn table with my shoes on the
73:05
table that everyone’s about to eat on
73:06
and or on this truck because God knows
73:10
everyone wanted me to stand on the hood
73:11
of their truck and it gets down hey guys
73:14
I’m I’m bait oh yeah and so he’s cussin
73:20
that’s actually Beto’s natural so like
73:23
he got a lot of attention when he was
73:24
cussing a
73:25
against when he ran against anger weasel
73:26
in in the November anger weasel the
73:30
Zodiac killer in whose dad killed JFK in
73:34
in Texas last year he cussed a lot
73:37
everyone was like yeah we want to cuss
73:39
her and then this was one of those
73:43
things where they’re like these stupid
73:45
conservatives they think they’re all mad
73:47
cuz Vado’s cussing I didn’t hear and I’m
73:49
not a conservative I’m not defending
73:50
cancer
73:51
I didn’t hear Matt did you see a single
73:53
conservative angry that bado cussed no
73:57
cuz I didn’t see it no definitely not in
74:01
the age of Trump no one’s mad about
74:03
cussing anymore wait yeah I did
74:07
definitely I definitely did not see a
74:09
single conservative upset about the
74:13
language I did see some conservatives
74:18
upset about who was it was it Oh God
74:23
Arizona New Mexico some cinema house I’m
74:29
a Christian cinema or whatever name is I
74:32
think she cussed on the floor or
74:34
something people freaked out oh really
74:36
yeah I think that’s funny yeah my dad
74:41
okay so sorry my dad just texted and he
74:46
said he’s not watching but he said did
74:50
you know Winnie is about 45 maybe 50 and
74:53
he’s talking about Winnie Cooper from
74:55
The Wonder Years and without even
74:58
thinking about I said 44 because I know
75:00
that for some reason I know how old
75:02
Danica McKellar is and why because I’ve
75:09
had a crush on her since I was a tiny
75:11
little kid that’s an impressive crush to
75:14
know how old she is just off the top of
75:16
your head whoa do you know her birthday
75:18
I don’t I don’t know
75:22
that’s impressive that she looks good
75:25
well yeah that she’s Winnie Cooper
75:30
that is funny
75:31
so Maria and Bose is I take a milk crate
75:34
with me always to stand up to talk stand
75:36
on to talk to people don’t you I’m
75:38
clearly
75:38
now Maria clearly I have I’ve been I’ve
75:42
been doing stuff wrong because I just
75:47
wanted people to see me at my level as
75:49
opposed to like getting up on a thing
75:50
and then bending down to pretend to
75:52
pretend that you know I’m one of them
75:55
I’m one of them I could have just stood
75:58
next to them like a human being and
75:59
shook their hand but I got a I guess and
76:01
I’m like you little people yeah this is
76:05
how much I care I’m up here but I’m
76:07
willing to come down to your level
76:11
having gotten on this having gotten on
76:13
this counter for zero reason whatsoever
76:15
right nobody has asked bado to do this
76:18
right so but yeah so when he was on the
76:21
CNN video I thought we were doing
76:27
immediately after he said basically all
76:29
of that without the cursing because
76:31
without the cursor right right he’s live
76:33
on CNN they started asking about the
76:38
shootings and the shootings that
76:40
happened and he went from talking about
76:43
Trump being a white supremacist and a
76:45
racist to this is what we need to do in
76:47
order to fix it and he said and Jake I
76:49
have to tell you in addition to
76:52
universal background checks and in
76:53
addition to ending the sale of weapons
76:55
of war and/or communities in addition to
76:58
red flag laws we have got to acknowledge
77:00
the hatred the open racism that were see
77:03
now like I said like we said earlier and
77:07
I’m certain we’re gonna say again this
77:13
is part of what fuels the hatred that
77:18
you are now railing against you can’t
77:27
blame it all on one side it’s the hatred
77:30
is being fueled both sides are Fanning
77:32
that flame in their own special way you
77:36
know and special one somebody’s using
77:38
like a banana leaf fan and the other
77:42
side’s using a asian foldout fan I don’t
77:48
know I don’t know the names of thing
77:51
but they’re both using fans it’s just
77:53
whichever one they prefer and it’s
77:55
whichever one they think which sides
77:59
using the banana leaf and Matt I would
78:02
go that’s what I was thinking of banana
78:06
leaf and the other ones got the Asian
78:07
the Asian like palm frond type deal yeah
78:11
that’s a that’s a visual but of hate
78:15
hate of hate they they’re Fanning the
78:19
flames of hate with these very happy
78:23
fans we’re wearing the the the delays
78:27
wearing the leis of dehumanization in
78:31
corruption
78:34
so nothing we’ve talked about today will
78:40
matter thirty years from now unless they
78:43
pass gun control legislation in which
78:45
case it might although a lot of gun
78:47
control legislation ends up expiring
78:49
within ten years
78:50
once the the heat that caused it to
78:52
happen is gone but here’s something go
78:57
ahead I will say that while the
79:01
shootings were tragic and they
79:03
definitely were the main story that
79:06
everybody knows about yeah personally I
79:10
think this is the most important story
79:13
of the week yeah this one affects all of
79:15
us will affect all of our children I
79:18
don’t have any children but and it will
79:21
affect all of your grandchildren right
79:24
so in the last week the Senate has
79:28
confirmed 13 of Donald Trump’s nominees
79:31
to lifetime appointments in the federal
79:33
judiciary bringing the grand total up to
79:36
a hundred and fifty not yet he’s almost
79:40
at 150 more nominees that are looking to
79:44
get confirmed and probably will in the
79:46
next couple of weeks and that will bring
79:48
it up to a hundred and fifty article
79:50
three judges that Trump has appointed
79:54
which is like isn’t that like a third of
79:57
the judiciary or something like that
79:59
it’s if Chris Reynolds could weigh em
80:02
yeah Chris Chris how what per say
80:04
the of the federal judiciary Maria Eden
80:09
Bose says banana leaf goes to the side
80:11
with the tiki torch guys yeah exactly
80:13
tiki torch and banana banana of Pam that
80:16
makes sense yeah
80:17
when asked about it because most of
80:19
these I think 11 of them I think 11 of
80:22
them happened during the debates while
80:27
the debates were happening they were
80:29
doing voice calls yeah just how churning
80:33
through these things that’s cocaine
80:36
Mitch or Moscow Mitch apparently Moscow
80:40
cocaine turtle Mitch yeah
80:43
he said for too long fairly
80:45
uncontroversial judicial nominees just
80:48
like these have been held up and delayed
80:50
by our Democratic colleagues even when
80:53
the vacancy qualifies as a judicial
80:56
emergency Chris Randall says a big
80:58
percentage uncontroversial district
81:00
judges used to be confirmed promptly in
81:02
big groups by voice vote
81:04
and he said that from the floor ahead of
81:07
the votes on Wednesday which were
81:09
happening at the same time as the
81:10
debates and this is coming from Mitch
81:13
McConnell who confirmed more judges last
81:16
week than he allowed Obama in two years
81:19
the last two years in office
81:21
cocaine Mitch will be remembered for
81:24
keeping Obama judges out of the lower
81:28
federal courts he didn’t pull that crap
81:31
with with supreme court although we did
81:36
with the last one the first two that
81:38
Obama pushed he allowed to go through
81:40
for a vote but when it came to Merrick
81:43
garland he said which is funny cuz
81:46
Merrick garland was of course sort of a
81:49
centrist consensus candidate to put up
81:51
he was like no I
81:54
unlike he and Brett Kavanaugh 90% of the
82:00
time agree yeah it became neither here
82:04
nor there Brent Kavanagh went on to to
82:06
basically be all he’s a if he’s not he’s
82:10
a Mary
82:11
Garlan it’s 90 percent of America Carly
82:16
or I guess Merrick garland could be
82:18
considered
82:18
right Kevin yeah so so I mean if you
82:30
could think of it that way
82:31
but um for four of the 13 judges were
82:37
nominees that Obama had put forth and
82:39
they were added as a part of a deal set
82:42
with them’s in order to speed these
82:46
through so that’s not that great of a
82:49
deal for them it’s it’s not but these
82:52
are people that they wouldn’t have
82:53
confirmed two and a half years ago right
82:56
right okay well we’ll let you have these
82:58
guys we just want these nine and so
83:01
after these 17 more get nominated which
83:04
it’s looking like it’s gonna happen
83:06
he’s got 115 article 3 judges in
83:09
lifetime appointments if he does 5 more
83:13
judges before leaving office he will
83:15
have appointed more judges than any
83:17
other president in history in one term
83:19
yes that’s pretty impressive
83:22
if he does get reelected which Matt and
83:25
I tend to believe will happen assuming
83:27
the economy doesn’t do what it looks
83:29
like a couple days then he will be able
83:34
to appoint way more judges so I mean
83:40
this is when you think about it these
83:42
are these are the ones that are gonna go
83:45
on to become Supreme Court justices
83:47
their aides are going to become federal
83:51
justices like this is a huge sea change
83:54
in the makeup of the let Jude ish iary
83:57
for generations at least one or at least
84:00
a couple of generations it will actually
84:02
ripple on into like great and great
84:05
great grandchildren right this is what
84:10
has happened what has happened with a
84:13
hundred and fifty article 3 judges this
84:18
changes the landscape for the
84:23
unforeseeable future yeah a for quite
84:26
some time and yet anyone want to guess
84:29
how many times this fun fact
84:32
mentioned in the last in the last four
84:36
nights of debates first of the first two
84:39
that we did them again two and then the
84:41
other two that we’re back in the end of
84:43
June when I guess how many times it was
84:44
mentioned this total reshaping of the of
84:47
the judiciary for a hundred years 50 40
84:53
50 60 years minimum anyone want a guest
84:57
anyone no no no guesses huh no guesses
85:01
that’s interesting
85:02
well not a one on any of the any other
85:04
chat oh no 1.25 a quarter that is you
85:10
are 0.25 off off it was mentioned not
85:15
even once and it’s one thing to say that
85:18
the the reporters didn’t bring it up
85:20
because it wasn’t sexy or whatever none
85:21
of the candidates brought it up no it’s
85:24
one questionable whether they knew so
85:29
here you have literally Hitler who is
85:32
like a white nationalist supremacist and
85:34
is you know going to bring us all to
85:38
total ruin but you’re not gonna mention
85:40
the fact that he and his good friend
85:43
cocaine Mitch the turtle from Moscow
85:46
Mick McConnell I’ve got his name
85:50
McDonald what are completely changing
85:55
what the courts are gonna look like for
85:57
a long long time yes for a very long
86:03
time and now the reason that this is
86:06
possible the reason that this was so
86:11
easy for Donald Trump to do was because
86:17
during the Obama era Senate when Obama
86:22
was president and oh god Harry Reid
86:24
Harry Reid thank you Harry are you the
86:28
Senate Majority Leader they did the
86:31
nuclear option and you didn’t need 60
86:33
votes to get somebody passed it changed
86:36
everything it changed everything and
86:39
they did it out of pure hubris that they
86:41
were gonna win and they were gonna sweep
86:43
and they were just gonna do exactly what
86:45
Trump did they couldn’t lost and yeah
86:53
well it’s past the nuclear option a year
86:57
later and ever since Mitch McConnell has
87:01
been in charge of the Senate right that
87:03
was the end of that it hubris is a word
87:11
for that
87:12
so I remember your hubris it was pure
87:16
hubris this is a hubris tastic episode
87:20
we had our nipple episode this is our
87:22
hubris episode it’s also a nipple
87:25
episode all of our episodes are nipple
87:26
episodes but we we because we have
87:30
nipples we have Matt Wright has nipples
87:33
does have nipples Matt writes nipples
87:36
nipples so humorous
87:40
so I remember after George Bush got
87:44
reelected I was a tiny tiny child 2004
87:46
was a kid in 67 and I remember when he
87:49
got reelected and Karl Rove talked about
87:51
the fact that there was I think he said
87:54
that the Republicans were going to be in
87:57
charge for the night I think he said 50
87:59
years ridiculous thing
88:00
the very next election cycle the
88:04
Democrats take the Congress and the very
88:06
next presidential cycle the Democrats
88:08
take the White House similar hubris 60
88:13
years prior Adolf Hitler says he’s
88:16
created a thousand-year Reich within 5
88:19
years he kills himself I’m thinking that
88:24
maybe politicians should make stops
88:28
thinking they’re gonna win forever cuz
88:32
statistically that’s not what happens
88:35
stop now if
88:41
I was the head of the Senate if I was
88:44
the GOP head of the Senate come November
88:49
of 2020 I would put the nuclear option
88:52
back in just in case I was out like I
88:57
would take it away I’d be nope you need
88:59
60 votes now I would put it back get
89:03
like 200 judges confirmed and then just
89:05
be like you know what no one needs this
89:07
much raw power I would do that and then
89:11
if we’re I would do that I would even
89:15
think about it I would do that so fast
89:18
and then if they win again be like we
89:23
need this power but why you’ve got
89:26
people you’ve got 200 judges that’s the
89:28
thing that’s there’s a good chance you
89:31
don’t need to appoint anybody else it’s
89:35
great it’s I knew he had put in a lot of
89:38
job I knew two things I knew that even
89:40
since the Bush years they were
89:42
complaining about the backlog of of
89:44
empty judge seats judicial seats and
89:46
that that had continued into the Obama
89:49
years through attrition as more and more
89:50
judges either died or retired or cycled
89:53
up or whatever recited to run for office
89:55
or whatever they did went back in the
89:57
private sector that it was just more and
90:00
more empty seats and it was creating a
90:03
backlog in cases and everything and I
90:05
thought someone’s gonna get a hold of
90:08
this but I I so I knew he had gotten a
90:10
lot of judges and I didn’t know was a
90:11
hundred and fifty that’s a lot of 1950
90:15
by before the August recess so federal
90:19
judges and it is for the lot of their
90:23
federal some of them are district but
90:26
but there’s still federal though they’re
90:28
federal districts for yeah yeah yeah no
90:30
they’re not Supreme Court judges or
90:32
whatever but they’re they’re obviously
90:34
they’re they’re federal districts
90:35
representing specific groups of states
90:37
or whatever um I mean he has the ability
90:39
to change the Ninth Circuit which is
90:44
it’s one of them Oh has it it’s already
90:49
started happening like they the Ninth
90:50
Circuit recently ruled
90:54
that California’s gun control laws are
90:57
unconstitutional oh yeah big stuff
91:04
happening that was one of the the the
91:07
things that people said about Donald
91:10
Trump is you know but the Supreme Court
91:11
in the federal courts and to his credit
91:13
to his supporters he’s pretty much
91:15
rubber rubber stamped and cocaine
91:18
Mitch’s rubber stamped anything that
91:20
federalist society puts in front of him
91:22
for a list of judges so if you’re a
91:24
conservative there’s something you can
91:26
be unambiguously happy about and then
91:28
just not worry about like the deficits
91:30
in the gun control and right and I’m not
91:36
gonna say he’s good at like four D under
91:39
water but he’s really good at directing
91:46
a conversation oh yeah very good that’s
91:50
what he does yeah yeah and I think a lot
91:54
of his rhetoric is to keep people
91:56
looking one way as opposed to another
91:58
and I think that there he knew what he
92:02
was doing with this he knew he was
92:04
changing the judiciary forever but he
92:10
kept focusing on everything stupid crap
92:13
yeah don’t look at that let’s look at
92:16
this stuff over here and when in a week
92:18
in a week where he got 13 judges was the
92:25
week where everybody was talking about a
92:26
tweet that he sent out saying is he
92:29
racist it’s pretty pretty I mean it it
92:36
works for him you’ll see the left and
92:39
they’ll say we’ve got to let we’ve got
92:41
to stop letting Donald Trump control
92:43
everything and control the conversation
92:44
and he will tweet one thing mm-hm and
92:47
those very same people will go back to
92:50
saying we have to talk endlessly about
92:53
this Trump tweet right it’s pretty
92:59
incredible how he’s able to do that
93:01
aye-aye-aye
93:04
that’s what he does that’s what he’s
93:05
good at is
93:07
during out how people directing the
93:09
conversation and figuring out how people
93:11
are gonna respond to it and it’s how he
93:14
became president and it’s how he’s
93:16
probably gonna get reelected and it’s
93:21
how he just got 150 judges Maria Eden
93:24
beau says he jingles Keys and does what
93:26
he wants he does he’s like pretty much
93:27
like the entire rest of the world are a
93:29
bunch of kids and he’s just like yeah
93:32
confirm those judges look at these keys
93:36
never goes Trump’s keys are racist and
93:39
and cuz they’re not my sir it’s black so
93:44
I mean right but yes this Wow everything
93:51
that happened in El Paso and Gilroy and
93:54
Dayton our absolute tragedies this most
93:59
important story of the week
94:01
he changed the face of America for
94:05
generations yeah in two and a half years
94:08
and no one talked about it there’s a
94:12
good chance this is the first time
94:15
you’re hearing about it is from what you
94:17
guys heard about it
94:20
but Reynolds personal injury attorney
94:24
Chris Reynolds attorney at law is an
94:26
attorney at law
94:27
who does personal injury right the only
94:31
reason I heard about it is because
94:33
another lawyer friend of mine shared it
94:36
on his page and it said you won’t
94:39
believe what mitch mcconnell’s been
94:41
doing during the debates and i said well
94:42
i wonder what that is because my hope
94:43
was cocaine okay it wasn’t cool it was
94:48
not cocaine it was and I read that
94:51
article and I said I don’t know if I
94:53
understood that so I read it again and
94:56
then I said that can’t be right so I
94:58
read it another time and then I sent it
95:00
to spike and then I read it twice more
95:03
so you read it five times five times not
95:07
including what I read today when I was
95:08
doing the notes you’ve read it six times
95:12
yeah good job
95:16
so I had read something about it where
95:18
they were like during the debate she
95:20
wouldn’t believe what’s happened and I
95:21
read that I’m like oh and then when the
95:23
shooting happened
95:24
we’ve just been so enveloped with the
95:26
shooting and it’s you know the
95:31
conspiracy theorist will say well you
95:32
know the shooting was to cover up for
95:34
the and it’s not that that it wasn’t but
95:37
the to me that the guy in the White
95:42
House right now is really really really
95:45
good at one thing he’s good a couple
95:47
things the thing he’s really good at
95:49
politically is directing the
95:52
conversation since June of 2015
95:56
this man has completely controlled every
96:01
aspect of not just the national
96:03
conversation but the international
96:05
political conversation has been
96:09
completely directed by Donald Trump and
96:16
it has worked for him unbelievably well
96:21
I when I remember was that Lindsey
96:27
Graham’s phone number he gave out yes
96:29
when he and gave out Lindsey Graham’s
96:31
phone number I thought that was
96:35
hilarious
96:36
that was so funny and I remember making
96:41
a status update and I said you know
96:43
you’re not going to be in this campaign
96:46
for long but man I hope you’re
96:48
entertaining the entire time you’re in
96:50
it we were right about half of them I
96:52
was right about half of that it’s it’s
96:58
it’s absolutely incredible he’s the most
97:01
or I would I’ll say anyway it’s our I
97:04
mean you could argue with but he’s
97:05
certainly in the running he’s one of the
97:07
most entertaining people on the planet
97:09
right now
97:09
and he’s also he’s also the most
97:14
powerful arguably and he which says a
97:19
lot about you know people talk about
97:21
protecting our civilization our
97:22
civilization is a joke everything is
97:25
reboots now and Donald Trump’s the most
97:27
a guy like the original reality
97:30
show host is your the original reality
97:32
show person was he was doing reality TV
97:36
in the 80s when there was no such thing
97:37
he’s the most entertaining person in the
97:40
world he also just completely reshaped
97:41
the judiciary with the help of one
97:43
cocaine Mitch McConnell and Barack Obama
97:47
and and Barack Obama yeah yeah and and a
97:50
lot of people with hubris a lot of
97:52
people with hubris a lot of leaf or see
97:54
people president lots of hubris
97:57
oh oh so at some point there will be a
98:03
fall at some point there were more than
98:06
likely be a fall and it will be you
98:09
think he’s been entertaining now a small
98:13
taste of the entertainment that will
98:15
come from if and when Donald Trump Falls
98:17
whether it’s through not getting
98:19
reelected or being indicted after he’s
98:22
president or whatever the way he acted
98:26
after Barack Obama beat Mitt Romney in
98:31
like the 24 to 48 hours after that it’s
98:34
just a little taste of what is awaiting
98:38
whenever that happens which at this
98:41
point I’m not banking on it he might die
98:44
before that happens but if it does
98:46
happen
98:49
or Eric trump act that way you get to
98:52
watch some serious seriously seriously
98:56
hilarious meltdowns
98:58
yeah it’s gonna be if he does have a
99:02
fall in his lifetime it’s going to be
99:05
Charlie Sheen level Charlie Sheen if he
99:10
had access to the nuclear codes
99:13
yeah Charlie Sheen would watch this
99:16
meltdown and go I’m glad that I reined
99:19
it in gotta tone it back I wonder if
99:23
this guy is using drugs Charlie would
99:25
say so we’re taking too much of that
99:28
tiger blood yeah oh that’s pure pure
99:31
dragon energy there um so yes so that’s
99:35
so that’s the news of the week that’s
99:38
the news of the week that is the news of
99:40
the week the news of the week so
99:43
guys be sure to tune in tomorrow for my
99:48
fellow Americans that’s a show with a
99:50
little guy named Spike Cohen it’s me I’m
99:56
going to be interviewing the possible
99:59
next president libertarian presidential
100:03
candidate Kim ruff who she’s an awesome
100:08
interview I love her I’m married she’s
100:14
also married so it’s a platonic respect
100:19
thing but I love her I cannot wait for
100:21
tomorrow night and she is politically me
100:26
with red hair and also she’s a woman and
100:32
with red hair the red hair part is I
100:34
could dye my hair red she’s a woman I
100:36
guess is the bigger difference so that’s
100:40
tomorrow and I’m really looking forward
100:43
to that and we’re gonna talk about
100:44
legalizing everything pretty much and
100:48
and then Matt you’ve got the writer’s
100:52
block on Thursday right I do I have the
100:54
writer’s block on Thursday at 8:00
100:56
Eastern with Axl David who is going to
100:59
be talking about something I something
101:06
having to do with red-light cameras and
101:07
that sort of thing so looking forward
101:10
and he’s gonna be in studio oh cool so
101:14
he’s actually be in Syria yep nice
101:17
that’s good I haven’t had anyone in
101:19
studio yet which is good because I don’t
101:21
have another chair for them they’d have
101:23
to sit on my lap I’m gonna have someone
101:28
in studio soon we should have somebody
101:31
we should do an episode of my where’s
101:32
the freedom in spike studio it’s for in
101:35
my studio with Matt on my lap I will sit
101:38
on your lap for two hours that won’t
101:40
hurt me at all I’m sure I’m sure that
101:44
won’t be rough at all anyway so so
101:47
that’ll be good so that’ll be Thursday
101:49
Jason Lyon is back with a vengeance with
101:53
a vengeance so on Friday night shabbat
101:56
shalom
101:57
it’s Jason Lyon with mr. America the
102:00
beard of truth he’ll be talking about
102:01
everything that’s been going on then
102:03
have a great weekend tune in Monday for
102:05
the non Shabbat episode of mr. America
102:08
the beard of truth with the always
102:10
amazing Jason Lyon and then check us out
102:14
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102:19
muddied waters parse through the news of
102:22
the week blowing it up next week it’s a
102:25
different hosting crew oh that’s right
102:28
it’s gonna be the first episode of
102:30
muddied waters I haven’t been on yeah
102:35
yeah oh yeah cuz that one I did doesn’t
102:38
count that one didn’t get pulled by me
102:44
that one got pulled by a simple record
102:47
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anybody who follows us on Facebook or
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Twitter or Instagram which we’ll get to
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those in a second YouTube let us lifted
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there babe
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oh yeah we we beat YouTube we beat
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YouTube we have no idea how you don’t
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know how but we we just beat them they
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had had taken us down said that we
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couldn’t live stream and we said why and
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they said oops I mean oh that’s kind of
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what happened
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that’s sort of what happened and shortly
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before the show started or during the
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show a Turner Turner Broadcasting who
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I’m pretty certain filed the complaint
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also lifted their claim on our Brady
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eight video on Facebook really yeah that
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can’t one hour ago Turner Broadcasting
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accepted your dispute and release their
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claim on your video muddied water is
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taking over the mainstream media we beat
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Ted Turner we beat Ted Turner and Google
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raw power in these four
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we’re just seeing mine right now
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nad also has hands yes and also in mats
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nipples that’s right here right here in
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the old mat nipples that’s right
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nipples so Matt if someone wanted to
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hear or listen to your nipples on the
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internet how would they go about doing
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that well if they wanted to see him
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that’s a completely different site but
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if you wanted to hear them you can find
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us at facebook.com slash laughter’s
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media you can find us on twitter at
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muddied underscore waters you can find
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us on instagram at muddy waters media
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you can find us on anchor at anchor demo
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slash muddied waters and you can find
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this YouTube and you can find us on
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youtube at youtube.com slash muddied
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waters media and you can find this in
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every other episode at muddied waters
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media.com the hills are alive with the
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sound of Matt’s nipples so so guys
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thanks again for tuning in and with the
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end oh she must be talking about nipples
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oh when I say nipples oh maybe that’s it
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well we are about to stop with the
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nipples because the show’s over nipples
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nipples
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guys thanks again for tuning in and
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where we’re going we don’t need roads
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we need nipples though
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Spike Cohen
Spike Cohen
Local Jew. Contrarian stoic sentimentalist. Antidisestablishmentarianism. Will pet your dog.