Brian MacDonald joins Matt to discuss education reform, starting the Education Reform Caucus, and most assuredly, the Sox and Bruins. Join us on this pantsless Thursday episode of The Wrighter’s Block.
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don’t bother swimming at you save me I
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will only drag hey watch out that one
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myself
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it’s a standard for the legs I’ll go
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this world I don’t need anybody’s
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oh right put down your pants put down
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your pencils step away from your
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keyboards and settle in for this week’s
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episode of the writer’s block
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first and foremost allow me to thank Don
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and Sally right for giving birth to me
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because without them none of this would
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be possible and also let me thank
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drinking on today’s episode of the
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writer’s block and as always to the
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for allowing me to use your music at the
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beginning and the end of every episode
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of the writer’s block to all of those
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above I say bula vinaka I’m very excited
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today I’ve got a good buddy of mine
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coming on also it’s another episode
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pantsless Thursday for anybody that was
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wondering but I’ve got a good buddy of
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mine Brian McDonald which is gonna be
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very exciting because when YouTube tries
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to come up with the automatic closed
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captionings for today’s device for
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today’s episode it’s going to be just a
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fun fun time for them so everybody
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welcome on my good friend known as
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libertarian dead which I literally just
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found out about that that was him and I
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was wanting to get him on my show anyway
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the econ grad the lost school student
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we met at Yale Cohn and Bruins fan
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number one Brian McDonald hey man how’s
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it going it’s going great man how are
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you doing
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yeah thanks for coming on you you and I
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met blast last summer at UConn I believe
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I started talking to you because I heard
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your accent and I immediately assumed
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you were a Sox fan yeah like if I
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started talking to you being like you
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must be a Sox fan and you came at me
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with no I like the Yankees that would I
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don’t know if I would have talked to you
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again after that
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ya know if you try to pull that in
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Boston you’re a local I mean you’re
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probably gonna get Sean
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all the way to Nick so I get that I get
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that oh I appreciate me on today um I
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appreciate you taking the time to come
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on today oh yeah beautiful thank you I
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appreciate that
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I you know I love your love libertarian
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dead that’s a riot that you just you
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just I thought I just I I just never
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talked to you about it I mean I always
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stop at like four months ago yeah three
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months yeah I mean I I started following
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it a while ago
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like however long ago and you may have
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invited me to like it but I get invited
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to like so many different pages and I
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just typically like all of them but that
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one I actually like that one I actually
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pay attention to it I’m like whoever’s
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doing this content is good posting mean
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page and it turned into you know having
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a really fast growing following I mean
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I’m getting hundreds of likes and shares
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it’s actually pretty surprising I like
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it I’m just gonna ride that pony as long
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as I can until I get socked right yeah
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we can no we keep waiting for that day
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we keep I know every every time we put
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out an episode or opposed especially if
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spike puts out the post I get terrified
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that that’s it like we’re gonna be gone
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for 30 days it’s irrational fear I had
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actually you probably be surprised to
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hear this to a lot of your audience will
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probably hear Expedia friends but Adam
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Smith the original Adam Smith page yeah
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that was remember when I were you pay
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attention when all of the everybody was
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sharing our conversations with each
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other
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yeah all the historical figures yeah
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yeah that was that was me you I
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initiated that with that Maximillian
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did you really it was uh yeah yeah we we
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initiated we got that star
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he started I saw his page and he started
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talking about who the guy wants neither
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none of those characters at any idea who
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each other and we all had 5,000 friends
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within like a week yeah too because we
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went viral with a fuel by conversation
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so everybody were getting like hundreds
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of friend requests a day it was just
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Eric and the you know we did the
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parodies on purpose so he just started
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you know talking trash to each other you
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know but what is with the story accurate
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facts though you know any means right
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yeah this is pretty funny there there
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was one where somebody was just I mean
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they were just taking lines from
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Hamilton and they were like going into
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rap battles and I think yeah cuz Adam
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Smith is my favorite economist
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granddaddy of modern day Atomics
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hi I’m Smith is truly uh it’s really
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amazing
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I mean heat at the time they didn’t even
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know what economics were there were no
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words for it
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there was no economist there was nothing
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nothing of this sort nothing that
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established somebody as a career that
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new auto trade foreign nations and
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understood the financing and the socio
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economics that are involved in overall
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economics and Adam Smith kind of just
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took all of that all that down from over
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there over there brought it all together
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in the middle and just observed he just
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he just wrote down all those
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observations about the facts of the time
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and how certain you know certain the
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legislature and and certain you know
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protectionist economic principles and
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and he analyzed those and and and
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realized how they affected the
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industries that they were in negatively
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and that’s all in his book the the
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wealth of nations right which is if you
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take on that book you’re you’re my hero
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I couldn’t
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it wasn’t the audio book but I’ve
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listened the audiobook a few times now I
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guess and you know it lasted about two
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weeks probably the best economic okay
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Adam Smith paid actually do wrong page
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that I haven’t really it’s Adam Smith
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society
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I mean i Adam Smith’s legacy legacy
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legacy is my other page what’s up you’re
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kind of breaking up on me a little bit
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but Adam Smith’s legacy is what you said
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yeah okay Ivan Ivan sent out any invites
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or anything like that yeah but that’s
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just I started that after Adam Smith got
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sucked right yeah I was really excited
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cuz I like it I like I was I was friends
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with all of these historical figures and
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now it’s just me and maximilien
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robespierre yeah and the one that
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started it all is the one was still
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there yeah must because he’s French it’s
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got yeah it’s gotta be because he’s
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learned I actually I think competition I
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mean use of the bourgeoisie but instead
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he pretended to be you know for the
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proletariat hey we’re just gonna kill
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all we had all the other boys y’see and
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they’ll leave me alone no they
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eventually got to know that that was one
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of my favorite like two weeks on
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Facebook cuz like that was it was such a
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crazy time because like I’m friends with
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all these historical figures who are
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arguing over stuff that happened 200
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years ago and it was all factual and it
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was amazing to watch no that’s I don’t
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know that one because you got to yeah I
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didn’t know that was you over time you
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know yeah yeah there’s a good time that
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was a good time yeah so I tend to get
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out there
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apparently whenever I get involved into
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things but I spread myself very thin so
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what time I grow up and start to
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concentrate my efforts on to greater and
11:16
better things so I can make a better
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influence you know right so how is it
11:21
how is it that you a man from Boston
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became a libertarian it’s a good
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question
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not many of us up here yeah my buddy
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Jeff Jeff Lyons can attest to that as
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well ya know it um easy answer Ron Paul
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but I’ll get into it I’ll get into it
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Ron Paul of course you know I hate to be
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cliche but good I get it um we’re we’re
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really lucky to have somebody like him
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you know in Congress at the time it in
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politics and still around making
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difference and especially with my
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friends at young Americans for liberty I
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can make a shout out to them that we
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have like I don’t know maybe a hundred
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of them maybe more doing tons of phone
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making right now
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please elections down down south so I
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shout out to you guys keep kicking ass
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you guys are great love you guys so you
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obviously know all about yeah we don’t
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need to get into that right I did but
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but I mean what I will say about y’all
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they they have been able to do really
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amazing things like I started out just
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students for Ron Paul back in what 12
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2012 I think and yeah what ended what it
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has ended up turning into I don’t think
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anybody could have seen that back then
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and they have done just amazing stuff
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for the Liberty movement and they have
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revitalized it in the youth in the youth
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of today and like I’m seeing more people
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who are libertarian you know concert’
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libertarian conservative and anarchists
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coming out of college for the first time
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since in my lifetime yeah it’s I
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genuinely think this is they said I
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don’t mean it’s uncle say again with the
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grassroots movement but I genuinely
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there’s this this percentage of us that
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are you know our age and younger that
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are opening their eyes to all the
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fallacies that have been made to ask you
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know seventy years right they’re seeing
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and they’re experiencing and feeling all
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these effects and and they know they’re
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not that the rugged Avenue and
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especially I’ve realized the more I
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learned about economics more libertarian
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I didn’t know and it has a lot to do
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with the freedom pocket and the thing is
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most free-market people and that
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actually study economics and learn the
13:56
facts behind economics they they turn
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very libertarian ask you know because
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they realized that a free market is the
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best way for people to exchange the most
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efficient way to exchange goods you know
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on both sides of the aisle and you know
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we’re starting to really wake up to that
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and I think the more and more people
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wake up to that the more they can
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actually start to promulgate the facts
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behind it right and more people start to
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get it I genuinely think because when I
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was 10 years ago I didn’t see anything
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like I’m seeing now I’m seeing today’s
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college kids kinda it’s kind of like
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they kind of reached a peak of like
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they’ve had enough you know they’ve had
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enough and they want to learn the best
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way of how to get out of it which is
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great and I just hope it continues yeah
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as do I
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a lot when I was growing up because I’m
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a little bit I’ve never actually said
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this on the show I’m a little bit older
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than most of the people I have on this
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show and when I would like when I was
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going to slamming what’s that I’m gonna
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do no I’m but I’m older than you right I
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know I know I got you beat
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I got you beat by almost a decade
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yeah so when I was going to school good
15:33
luck to you I’m proud of you but you
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know there it’s it’s real easy it’s like
15:37
I said at the beginning it like before
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we started this show if you do a lot of
15:41
drugs when you’re young in cop like a
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huge alcohol problem
15:44
it just preserves everything so yeah it
15:51
like preserves everything in a youthful
15:52
like exterior it’s like you pickled
15:56
yourself essentially and it just got
15:58
it’s just going to stay that way forever
16:04
but so like when I was going to school
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Lyndon LaRouche was like doing this
16:12
campus push and a lot of people like
16:17
Lyndon LaRouche do you know who when
16:21
Lyndon LaRouche he was like it’s going
16:26
over my head oh he’s uh he was left of
16:30
Bernie and he was doing this huge campus
16:34
push wait okay I remember they were
16:37
coming up to me when I when I was going
16:40
to George Mason there was this group of
16:42
people who were all for Lyndon LaRouche
16:44
and they would come in and they’d be
16:45
like hey Lyndon LaRouche wants to know
16:48
how you feel about whatever and like I
16:50
was like a 17 year old kid I got already
16:54
been through basic training but like I
16:57
didn’t know how to talk to people about
16:59
politics and they would come up and they
17:01
just like don’t you think that everybody
17:02
should kind of like get for work get
17:05
paid for what they work for and I was
17:06
like what yeah and they were like you
17:08
should like duh yeah you should get paid
17:11
if you work that makes sense to me after
17:14
like I was reading their newspapers and
17:16
stuff it was all socialist and communist
17:18
crap and I was like oh that’s not what
17:21
you’re saying you’re saying we should
17:23
all just get paid but they wanted me to
17:27
join like the Lyndon LaRouche team and I
17:30
was like no and Dennis Miller made a
17:33
joke about Lyndon LaRouche once and he
17:36
said that guy missed a field goal so far
17:38
left he could have hit Lyndon LaRouche
17:42
I love that analogy yeah right and it’s
17:47
been one of my favorite jokes of all
17:49
time but most people today don’t get it
17:52
because they don’t know who Lyndon
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LaRouche is so I’ve changed it to now he
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missed that field goal so far left he
17:57
could have hit Bernie Sanders but but
18:02
yes so like when I was going through
18:04
school they were like pushing the
18:06
socialist agenda like that’s what the
18:08
groups were trying to get they nobody
18:10
was talking about freedom nobody was
18:11
talking about liberty nobody was talking
18:13
about you know the individual everyone
18:15
was talking about the collective we were
18:16
talking about making this a socialist
18:19
nation a communist nation like that’s
18:21
what everybody was trying to push back
18:23
then so it’s great to see the day that
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the youth is moving further toward
18:29
individual liberties and individual
18:31
economics and getting away from all of
18:33
this collectivism I think I mean because
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the status quo would kind of turn into
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the the social push for years now and I
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think people like I said we’ll learn and
18:49
and it’s only gonna be better for us I
18:51
just hope well the start is with the
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greatest part is I know for a fact it’s
18:56
it’s young Americans for liberty that is
18:58
getting these people elected in the
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state rep offices across the country
19:02
right on you know the building the bench
19:04
stayed the goal for at the end of next
19:05
year is to have 250 same reps in office
19:09
that’s astronomical but it’s doable and
19:12
they have resources they I just went
19:15
through the candidate Katamon myself it
19:17
was great I learned a lot I have you
19:19
heard about that yet yeah new thing they
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started this year did they started this
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year cuz Matt Nye who’s the chair of the
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Republican liberty caucus I know he they
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were doing it last year I quality okay
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oh okay because I knew he went through
19:35
something I didn’t know what it was
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called
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yeah yeah okay and it’s great they slam
19:45
a lot of material out yet but it is
19:47
great material and these guys it they
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they don’t sit on their hands everybody
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is
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so passionate about individual freedom
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in this organization they’re so
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passionate about individual rights that
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their work ethic is astounding and it’s
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it’s not for just for themselves for
20:10
everybody you know our collective is for
20:16
the individual so we can all
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collectively be happy and sovereign
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right and you know the people that were
20:22
getting elected with young Americans to
20:23
Liberty coming up to the candidate
20:25
Academy they’re all going to help me to
20:27
that and we’re seeing the victories now
20:28
this year especially you know Savannah
20:30
Maddox kicking ass you know a bunch of
20:34
this I can’t even go down a list I
20:36
probably should have made a list of
20:37
women and wrote them down all the things
20:38
that they’ve done but the thoughts and
20:42
expressions on this on this show on my
20:45
own they’re not representing young
20:47
American celebrity I chat established
20:49
that but a lot of our ideas right which
20:56
I mean so I get a lot of people that
20:58
I’ve met through young Americans for
20:59
Liberty on this show yeah
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a good portion of my guests I’ve met
21:06
through young Americans for liberty and
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all of them say that they’re like yeah
21:12
what I say here does not is not being
21:14
backed by young Americans for Liberty
21:16
but we all kind of agree on everything
21:18
and it’s true exactly it is true I mean
21:23
I know first act everything I probably
21:24
say today would probably be endure
21:27
everybody we also we also don’t want to
21:34
say anything wrong and have it have
21:37
young Americans living misrepresentee
21:39
right now I get that I absolutely get
21:41
that oh one one one day if I can get a
21:45
cliff away from Kennedy for an interview
21:48
I’m gonna have to do that oh Lisa
21:51
Kennedy yeah oh man I did great I just
21:55
was with her and the alcohol and Philly
21:58
she walked right up to me we’re in VIP
22:00
because I mean I’m one of the what do
22:05
you see Society donors so they give us
22:08
a special kind of cocktail party if the
22:10
event right where they have all the
22:13
speakers come and get to hang out with
22:15
of like 60 of us or whatever showed up
22:19
to that event so we had to hang it and
22:21
she came right over to me and hung out
22:23
with me basically the whole time with a
22:24
couple guys I was with and we I was like
22:27
Lisa Kelly are you doing yeah it’s just
22:29
like hey picked up mr. McDonald I was
22:35
like oh my god I love you you’re the
22:36
best she’s like who wouldn’t love me
22:39
that’s a man that sounds like her yeah
22:43
and I said something I forget exactly
22:45
contextually what I said I said
22:47
something along lines of marry me and
22:49
she she responded she said Oh sweetheart
22:53
I’m sorry you know I’m already married
22:56
to Liberty yeah I remember I remember
23:02
watching her on MTV and all you are old
23:08
Wow
23:10
thanks man oh yeah I remember watching
23:13
her on MTV and when I found out that she
23:16
was a huge advocate for liberty later on
23:18
over that can’t be the same oh my god
23:21
that’s the same Kennedy that I used to
23:23
watch Oh
23:33
I’ll shoot her a message be like hey I
23:35
watched you on MTV you should come on my
23:37
show she’s going to Memphis is she I
23:42
don’t know I don’t know if I am like my
23:44
work schedules been crazy because we’re
23:46
just opening a new bar stateside kava if
23:50
anybody didn’t know because you know
23:51
they’re my new sponsors but we’re just
23:53
opening a new bar we’re trying to get
23:55
everything going I’ve been working any
23:57
day that I don’t have a show I’m at work
23:59
and I’m there all the time so right now
24:03
it’s like hard to get away but all right
24:08
but so I say go go ahead so you are
24:16
getting ready to start the you had to
24:19
pulled up here and I had to switch
24:20
screens for a second the edgy
24:22
tation reform caucus yes sir excellent
24:26
sir and I am a big fan of educate like I
24:28
want to get rid of I want to get rid of
24:30
the Department of Education I want to
24:32
get like public schooling I think is a
24:33
massive joke I think it’s indoctrination
24:35
when I was so when I was like I we were
24:38
talking before the show I told you I was
24:39
watching the Phillies game at Phillies
24:42
Cardinals and they were interviewing one
24:46
of the players I don’t know which I
24:47
can’t remember which one he was not of
24:49
he was not a good interviewer or
24:50
interviewee and the interviewer was just
24:52
trying to pull stuff out of him and they
24:54
have some program that is to get food to
24:59
underprivileged kids when they aren’t in
25:02
school and all right all for it you know
25:05
I’m all for companies trying to do this
25:07
but what the interviewer said is these
25:09
these students are used to getting
25:11
breakfast and lunch served to them by
25:13
the schools and immediately I’m going
25:16
there indoctrinating people into schools
25:19
are now providing for the kids like
25:21
that’s immediately where my brain went
25:24
like I called my dad all angry at this
25:26
baseball game because of because of this
25:29
one sentence and yeah but that’s what
25:33
they’re doing they’re they they are
25:34
indoctrinating students into thinking
25:37
government is the only thing that can
25:38
provide for them oh yeah and the
25:41
dependency is outrageous I mean that’s
25:43
going down the dependency road I mean
25:44
they that’s why they have attorney
25:47
business hours so you know you get child
25:50
cares through the schools you know the
25:53
the they like to get DSS involved when
25:58
you go to homes go to home schooling
26:00
because they they want you dependent on
26:03
the state they want you to fit the mold
26:04
to fit into society and especially well
26:09
yeah I’ll be back up for a second this
26:12
is what we wanted to discuss today right
26:14
I am I’m not throwing out the education
26:19
reform caucus yet I have a couple people
26:20
that I’m friends with in the Liberty
26:23
movement the libertarian party precisely
26:26
and we are all going to be cofounders of
26:30
the education reform caucus we haven’t
26:35
rolled that
26:35
yet because you want to we want to
26:39
establish it at the end of the summer
26:41
the gang is yeah and start going over
26:44
situations and and issues that that come
26:50
up as the as the school year goes on you
26:54
know what I mean
26:55
braum we want to be able to address
26:58
people’s concerns and issues as they as
27:02
they happen you know that way people
27:05
would be a lot more interested in the
27:11
program and we can craft our initiatives
27:14
over the school year to tailor to what
27:18
exactly is going on Society at the time
27:20
and go over the budgeting processes and
27:25
so we are we are getting the ground
27:29
rolling with that and I hope it really
27:32
takes us because there is nothing that
27:34
is education reform on a grand scale
27:39
there’s a lot of education reforms when
27:42
it comes to you know out of micro-level
27:45
with a lot of things Oh education reform
27:48
adding civics in the school education
27:50
reform for catering to homeschooling so
27:53
there’s a lot of different subsets of
27:55
education reform there’s a one grand
27:58
centralized plan or approach or attack
28:02
to kind of handle ending the damn
28:05
Department of Education right that has
28:07
absolutely it’s it’s destroyed our
28:11
country it’s destroyed our education and
28:14
intellect about individuals the
28:16
innovativeness of what America really
28:19
stands for the in 1978 the year before
28:25
the time of Education was implemented in
28:28
1978 we have the number one education
28:30
system in the world number one numero No
28:33
why would you break stuff for that and
28:34
that doesn’t need to be fixed right you
28:37
know why but instead of asking questions
28:42
let’s just go into the issues
28:47
now when it was fully implemented in
28:49
1980 me me gradually and consistently
28:54
all the way till now 38 years later
28:56
right gradually and consistently have
28:59
dropped down to 29 overall well it
29:04
depends between 24th and 29th depending
29:07
on who ranks it but still at best
29:10
American rank every rank s 23 that’s
29:14
that’s awful especially without GDP per
29:16
capita there’s there’s no reason for it
29:20
whatsoever and and my theory behind it
29:23
and it’s not just a hypothetical it’s
29:29
it’s a I didn’t bring all my information
29:33
on that one topic but I feel like
29:37
towards the end of the Vietnam War we
29:40
were in a hippie stage we didn’t have
29:42
any there’s no interest we had have a
29:43
draft right
29:44
no we trapped I think it was like three
29:46
million something like during the whole
29:48
Vietnam War and and we were ashamed of
29:56
our country we didn’t want to join the
29:58
military and we weren’t we weren’t
30:01
supportive of our government and then
30:04
they’d established as part of education
30:07
which just like the Hitler Youth helped
30:11
indoctrinate us our kids to become
30:13
status to to become patriotic to stand
30:18
behind their flag they’re they’re
30:20
they’re sky claws and and that’s where
30:24
that’s where the Pledge of Allegiance
30:27
came in 1982 the mandated pledge
30:30
allegiance were those even close to with
30:33
that name for allegedly was it 82 no no
30:36
I’m sorry I wasn’t 82 I think was 88 no
30:39
I’m sorry don’t quote not exactly I
30:41
think it was 88 I was I was thinking the
30:43
Pledge of Allegiance came around during
30:45
I thought that came around I thought
30:47
that came around way earlier I thought
30:49
that was like the 30s no well no not
30:54
mandated Oh mandated mandated sorry
30:58
mandate
30:59
nationwide will say between 82 and 85 Oh
31:04
somewhere around there it was early
31:06
hominins occasion and it worked though
31:10
it worked
31:12
it helped psychologically get people to
31:15
be patriotic and to back the flag right
31:18
and and it got people to join the
31:21
military you got it got us to trust the
31:25
government more we gained reliance from
31:28
the government at a young age and that’s
31:30
only come into I mean people that were
31:33
growing up in the 80s or they’re all
31:35
adults now and so and that’s what we’re
31:39
seeing right now on a society is that
31:41
first generation of you know
31:45
indoctrinated children be grown-ups when
31:50
it’s falling upon as we discussed
31:52
earlier with the limiting right which I
31:55
which actually that’s a really good way
31:56
to look at it cuz yeah I’m at I’m at
32:01
least as old as the Department of
32:02
Education so I’m at least that old so
32:08
like my entire school my entire
32:10
schooling I you know in the morning I
32:13
stood up and you know I pledge
32:14
allegiance to the flag of the United
32:15
States of America and to the Republic
32:16
for which it stands one nation under God
32:17
which was added by Harry Truman
32:19
indivisible with one and one nation
32:22
under God indivisible with liberty and
32:24
justice for all
32:25
like I will never forget that I said
32:27
that every day every day every day so
32:32
every morning I had to say that in
32:34
homeroom or whatever grade I was in and
32:38
it makes a lot of sense because a lot of
32:41
the people coming out they they hated
32:43
the government but they all believed
32:45
that you needed the government in order
32:47
for things to work and even when I was
32:49
going through high school I kind of
32:51
believed the same thing I said oh we
32:53
need to make a law for that we need to
32:54
do that like the government should do
32:56
something about this the government was
32:57
the answer to fixing it and it wasn’t
33:00
until I got older that I realized that
33:02
every time the government came in to fix
33:03
something that it made everything it
33:06
made the issue worse and made other
33:07
things worse I started saying why are we
33:10
asking the government to fix these
33:11
things
33:12
oh yeah instead we should get the
33:14
government completely out of it exactly
33:17
I mean I didn’t even learn that until I
33:19
had joined the Air Force when I was in
33:22
the Air Force I saw how unbelievably bad
33:27
I mean first I saw the contracting and
33:29
how unbelievably egregious it was with
33:33
being wasteful with our tax dollars I
33:35
mean it they chewed the Air Force for
33:39
years at one base of paying $1,300 for a
33:43
freaking coffee mug
33:45
$1,300 the years for coffee mugs one one
33:50
time one $1,300 I joke that you know
33:54
it’s not something that’s not surprising
33:56
to me even a little bit because I mean
33:58
but for anybody who wants one we have
34:01
these great muddied waters Media coffee
34:03
mugs that you can get for $1,300 just
34:07
PayPal us at muddy waters of freedom at
34:12
gmail.com and I will send you a coffee
34:14
mug 1,300 bucks you I’ll send you to
34:18
like God just send those $1,300 um but
34:24
like it’s not surprising cuz so I joined
34:27
the army when I was 17 years old which
34:30
like you said I don’t look my age now at
34:33
17 I did not look 17 looks like you were
34:38
10
34:38
probably yeah I mean to me I look 17 but
34:41
I definitely I I looked 17 to me but to
34:47
other people I did not and they accept
34:49
I’ll take it easy jokes it’s fine most
34:53
of the people I hang out with her much
34:54
younger than me so it’s like I’m used to
34:56
only I’m just kind of like I don’t care
34:58
I still look better than you do it
35:01
anyways yeah yeah people make fun me I’m
35:04
like I look better than you at your age
35:05
so who’s winning
35:09
but exactly the Saudi army like I even
35:14
then I started noticing the army back in
35:17
the late 90s was just completely
35:21
wastefully spending money and I
35:23
why were they doing all this
35:26
Kru ting pushes to bring all these
35:28
people in we weren’t at war we weren’t
35:30
under attack by anybody late Clinton
35:33
started going after Bosnia while I was
35:36
in basic training which that’ll give you
35:38
like a really good idea on how old I am
35:40
he started bombing Bosnia and everybody
35:42
was really afraid that I was going to be
35:44
sent to Bosnia and as soon as I got out
35:47
of basic training because they didn’t
35:48
understand how many of it worked
35:49
and like we didn’t need to be like it
35:53
was just a complete waste of money and
35:55
people were like no the government needs
35:56
to do these things the government needs
35:58
to fix these problems and no they don’t
36:01
they don’t
36:05
and let’s just not just thought of it as
36:07
a humanitarian thing oh you’re getting
36:11
there getting uh you know the mass
36:14
genocides over there right now
36:16
you know I Saddam is killing everybody
36:19
oh my gosh what are we gonna do we got
36:23
to take him out right there weapons of
36:26
mass destruction all you know with
36:28
thanks to the department education and
36:32
indoctrination we trusted our government
36:35
a triack’s
36:36
never questioned it never quite react
36:38
god never questioned it not not only
36:42
that but you know probably the person
36:48
it’s probably the worst most influential
36:51
ii- bill signed in the modern era passed
36:55
probably like 30 years easily you’ve got
36:58
and and the person who drafted it one of
37:01
the people who drafted is now sitting on
37:03
the Supreme Court just you know saying
37:05
for everybody who’s like we need to get
37:07
behind Kavanaugh oh yeah that’s right
37:14
yeah I mean Cavanaugh is one of people
37:17
that drafted it and a lot of people on
37:18
the right we’re saying we need to get
37:19
behind Kavanaugh because he’s getting
37:21
railroaded for things that he never did
37:22
which agreed that part’s true
37:25
but we shouldn’t have been backing him
37:27
for those reasons over there not because
37:30
of what the media was pushing what the
37:32
Democrats were pushing but because of
37:34
things like the Patriot Act yeah because
37:37
of that
37:39
because of it was it awesome Amendment
37:43
violations right you’ve got a war on
37:45
hair the surveillance you’ve got you’ve
37:47
gotten a legal war on terror which
37:48
doesn’t have any particular enemy it
37:50
just has a particular ideology that
37:52
they’re going after which they can now
37:54
define as anything they want much like
37:56
Shane Sweeney and I discussed a couple
37:58
of weeks ago they are now defining
38:01
people who work in drug cartels as
38:04
terrorists so even if you are let I
38:08
don’t know if you do drugs but let’s say
38:10
you do and you buy weed off of some guy
38:13
in Boston who that weed comes from a
38:16
Mexican cartel like even if it goes
38:18
through like a bunch of different lines
38:19
he is now listed as a terrorist like
38:22
that is how broad all of this has got
38:26
gotten and it’s absolutely it’s
38:29
absolutely insane and it all started
38:31
because we have to trust the government
38:34
the indoctrinate the indoctrination
38:36
happened we allowed it to happen not you
38:40
and me but you know we as a nation
38:41
allowed it to happen and we just said we
38:44
gotta trust this government because they
38:46
know better than we do when in all
38:48
actuality no they don’t
38:50
right and that’s exactly oh well 1980
38:54
flow like alluded to you trust Big
38:59
Brother have faith and Big Brother
39:01
you’re gonna go down with big brother
39:04
you know you you and that’s exactly what
39:11
we ended up though we ended up being
39:14
indebted to Big Brother
39:16
and it’s completely opposite of the
39:21
American ideal we’re supposed to be a
39:25
free a filing father has wanted us to
39:27
have our individual rights that’s why
39:29
we’re look in the first place right
39:32
they they in this big a push for
39:38
democracy democracy democracy yes a
39:42
democratic republic works if you follow
39:45
the Bill of Rights and what makes us a
39:49
republic what gives us our individual
39:51
sovereignty
39:52
we don’t follow the Builder Wrightson no
39:54
no not even a yeah we we we trust full
40:00
full-on democracy which is obviously
40:03
it’s been proven history that’s another
40:06
thing we don’t have civics we don’t have
40:07
history courses that are required
40:08
anymore we don’t have people that want
40:12
to look at the past and reflect on it
40:14
and to see where we with certain
40:17
outcomes happen to certain actions the I
40:24
love a transit sorry oh you’re uh you’re
40:27
looting to a point no you’re all mine
40:30
oh but yeah so what is that we so what
40:39
are a couple of so when you’re talking
40:41
about education when you’re talking
40:42
about education reform like obviously we
40:44
want to get rid of the indoctrination
40:45
that we’re seeing we want to we want to
40:47
get rid of people just trusting in
40:48
government like how are some of the ways
40:50
that we’re gonna be able to achieve that
40:55
I’ll get into I’ll list a few and then
40:59
I’ll go into them um so I have a few
41:02
points that I want to bring up you know
41:04
ending ending the Department of
41:06
Education is is numero uno that’s our
41:11
main goal but that’s not the first thing
41:13
we can do right all right there’s gonna
41:14
be baby steps and that’s what I want to
41:18
do as a collective with there’s a there
41:21
are a few I’m not gonna drop any names
41:24
yet but there are two Liberty movement
41:27
teachers that are also going to be
41:30
providing us input and I plan on being a
41:34
professor someday and I’m I’ve studied a
41:38
middle of studying law and how to how to
41:42
teach I really want to be influential to
41:45
as many people as I can in a positive
41:47
way and I feel like being a professor is
41:52
you know probably the best way to go
41:54
right professor in economics at that but
42:00
so knowing Department education needs to
42:03
go is the main goal we need to keep that
42:05
on our mind
42:06
but realized that there steps that we
42:08
have to take you know and one of the
42:11
ideals that we want an intimate
42:13
implement is allowing anyone to apply to
42:16
any school also giving the school the
42:19
ability to deny students now that sounds
42:22
horrifying I’m sure to some people yeah
42:24
when I read that talking point I was
42:26
like I can’t wait for this one it’s no
42:31
one to it’s on it’s one you got to get
42:34
around to people and and here’s here’s
42:41
actually what the when the cofounders
42:43
had to say about it and it’s actually
42:45
directly quoted from him but he’s gonna
42:48
remain anonymous
42:49
as of now okay and he stated although
42:53
not ideal I think there needs to be an
42:56
assigned district school for families
42:59
that do not want to change anything
43:01
where student is guaranteed acceptance
43:03
no matter what the reason being the
43:05
argument of the people on the other side
43:07
of the issue will be that we will hurt
43:09
low-income students if schools have the
43:12
choice not to accept them the solution
43:14
is to have a local school district need
43:16
the assigned risk school that ensures
43:20
everyone has a place to go no matter
43:22
what and I think that’s great so going
43:29
on with that rationale and that plan to
43:32
implement something we would create
43:34
larger districts out of a certain group
43:37
of towns maybe by county and in treat it
43:42
like a free market treat it like we had
43:46
more private schools like we did before
43:48
the 70s you know we’re still gonna have
43:53
tax they’re still going to be supported
43:55
by tax dollars unfortunately great I was
43:58
like men but now half my audio audience
44:02
just went nope listen you got to be
44:05
pragmatic it’s gotta be baby steps
44:08
I don’t want the goal is to end the
44:10
Department of Education and to have zero
44:13
taxes paid towards education that’s the
44:16
goal that’s the goal but you guys most
44:19
libertarians and anti
44:20
guess the too impatient they they they
44:23
get they get a little overzealous and
44:24
they they say no no Jackson no
44:27
we’re not excuse me now you’re
44:29
you’re fine I don’t we drop the f-bomb
44:31
on this show often yeah you know so they
44:40
they they really it’s kind of like half
44:45
of us turned in the extreme wing of the
44:49
right and the left before a libertarian
44:51
wing right and in I I’m just you know I
44:56
love those guys they’re great that
44:58
they’re awesome I mean I agree with them
45:01
100% it’s just that when engaging in
45:04
active politics and getting involved you
45:06
need to have a pragmatic approach you
45:10
need to be understanding and accepting
45:13
of the other peoples but not accepting
45:15
but understanding and open to listen to
45:19
other people’s perspectives and you
45:23
can’t be too extreme you can’t you can’t
45:27
scare people because especially with the
45:29
genuine general populace they’re not you
45:31
say I’m gonna take all the time
45:33
everybody’s gonna start to freak out I
45:34
don’t know what the heck you’re gonna do
45:36
they oh you’re gonna take away all of
45:38
the programs oh my god complete anarchy
45:40
they are in the iñaki already has a
45:42
negative stigma as it is you know the
45:45
students before us what true but what
45:49
about great but what about the roads
45:51
what about the police what about the
45:53
fire department what about EMS whoa
45:59
Oh see one of the biggest things about
46:00
that I love that you brought up Fire
46:02
Department and we’re not gonna go I know
46:04
you talk about an arc oh all the
46:06
time so I’ll uh I’m gonna keep that
46:08
brief but why can’t firefighters be the
46:11
police well please be the firefighters
46:15
it the firefighters are sick sitting
46:18
around 95% of time anyways same thing
46:21
with the cops when they’re not beating
46:22
people up right when they’re not when
46:24
they’re not out there fundraising or as
46:26
I like to call it giving tickets yeah
46:30
fundraising for the state right now
46:31
gotta make my quarters at the end of the
46:33
month
46:33
exactly but they don’t have quotas liars
46:38
but ya know some do some don’t Yeah
46:41
right so here in Pinellas County we have
46:46
I don’t even know how many high schools
46:48
we’ve got in this area it’s a bunch but
46:52
you have to actually apply to go to the
46:55
schools so there’s a scheme you you do
46:59
yeah so there’s a high schools the high
47:01
schools public schools
47:03
yeah so I like that yeah so right up
47:08
this right up the street from me is a
47:10
Boca CA a– high school they call it
47:13
bogie which is what I’m gonna call it
47:14
from now on because that’s just what I’m
47:15
used to going it so you got bogie and
47:17
bogey has a med program an arts program
47:21
and then they’ve got like their general
47:23
school and you have to apply to go there
47:26
then you’ve got a st. Pete Catholic
47:28
which is more of a private but it’s
47:30
still public and you got to apply to go
47:32
there and they’ve got specialized thing
47:34
specialized courses there I believe it’s
47:41
public it may be it may be a private
47:44
school but I know a bunch of my friends
47:45
went there and their family wasn’t like
47:48
Catholic so so I’m not a hundred percent
47:52
sure like I didn’t grow up here so a lot
47:54
of this is just me kind of learning
47:55
about it as I’ve been here but they’re
47:59
all of this all of the high schools if
48:01
you live inside that district I believe
48:06
you are allowed to go there but if you
48:08
live outside of the district you can
48:10
apply to go there and they will accept
48:11
you in and then you just have to find
48:13
your way to school so st. Pete High is
48:18
another one so one of the girls that I
48:21
used today she ended up going to bogey
48:23
she went there for the Arts Department
48:25
her little brother wanted to play
48:27
basketball and I think st. Pete high had
48:30
a better basketball program so he
48:33
applied to go there he didn’t get in
48:36
because he wasn’t good enough feel bad
48:39
for the kid I actually like him but he
48:43
didn’t get in so he ended up going to
48:45
boat he ended up going to Bo
48:46
I think he ended up going to bogey and
48:49
going to school there but you actually
48:51
have to apply to get into the different
48:53
high schools it’s like you’re applying
48:55
for college in eighth grade
48:57
just to put into high school no see
48:59
that’s awesome know that that is a very
49:01
unique thing I’ve heard of different
49:03
regions having that obviously you’re in
49:05
one of them that does just fantastic
49:07
maybe held on to their old ways maybe a
49:11
little bit but you know back in the day
49:14
that’s what it was more or less like it
49:17
was less structured which allowed for
49:19
more freedom and liberty to be able to
49:23
go and try different things I mean cuz
49:25
you know one school might have a better
49:27
band one school might have a better art
49:29
program one school might have a know
49:31
better basketball team one team might
49:33
just have a better a tech curriculum
49:36
these different schools they’re going to
49:38
have different things that appeal to the
49:40
individual and which is one I want to
49:43
get into standardized testings that’s
49:44
thing that irks me most I give up
49:46
on education because it’s the complete
49:50
antithesis to actual individual growth
49:56
it’s standardized using everybody to
49:59
conform to one curriculum and and these
50:04
people only get trained on the
50:08
curriculum that getting tested for and
50:09
these teachers work around the
50:12
parameters of these exams because they
50:15
look better on paper for their students
50:19
having better grade than these exams and
50:22
it’s all the complete farce it’s all all
50:25
– to follow along with the tests now
50:28
here’s my long list I told you I was
50:31
gonna delve into you can stop me
50:34
whatever you want but there are many
50:36
reasons as to why the standardized
50:41
testing is the absolutely most negative
50:46
thing you can do for a child and their
50:49
education growing up all right
50:51
so further ado I’ll continue with
50:57
standardized testing
50:59
is unavoidably biased by social class
51:02
ethnic regional and other cultural
51:04
differences it’s unfair it unfairly
51:08
event the vanette is those who can
51:12
afford to test prep it radically limits
51:15
teacher’s ability to adapt to learn
51:18
differences it provides minimal to no
51:21
useful feedback to classroom teachers
51:25
they are keyed to the deeply flawed
51:30
knowledge framing core curriculum
51:33
adopted in 1893 they have led to the
51:39
neglect of play music and other
51:42
nonverbal ways of learning and that’s
51:44
actually irritating because that that
51:46
allows creativity and all of those
51:48
programs the ones that have seemed not
51:49
essential don’t have to get tested on
51:52
them therefore they let the state
51:54
funding go towards all the other
51:57
standardized PDS it also hides problems
52:03
created by my error complication scoring
52:07
penalize is test takers who think it’s
52:10
non-standard and sorry I ripped that
52:16
incorrectly I was I wasn’t sure if I’d
52:19
lost you forever said ok yeah if
52:24
penalize is test takers who think in
52:26
non-standard ways which young people
52:29
frequently do it gives control of the
52:32
curriculum to test manufacturers which
52:35
is the thing I’ll get into at the end of
52:36
this it encourages use of threats rods
52:39
and other intrinsic motivators to raise
52:42
scores it assumes that what the young
52:44
will need to know in the future is
52:46
already known it you know and so it’s
52:50
exacting you know if everything is
52:53
already there to be known you’re not
52:55
gonna have an open mind to expand and
52:58
try to think about other possibilities
53:01
other things its stifles creativity so
53:05
there’s a school quiz which can be and
53:07
sometimes I manipulated for political
53:09
purposes you want to come yes so real
53:12
toy whatever you
53:13
so um did you ever see the movie The
53:16
Truman Show would Jim Carrey do yes okay
53:21
oh yeah great job yeah yeah yeah great
53:26
movie so they talked about when Truman
53:29
was a kid Truman Burbank when Truman was
53:32
a kid he was in school and they’re like
53:33
what do you want to be he’s like I want
53:35
to be an explorer like the great
53:36
Magellan and the teacher pulls down a
53:38
mountain she goes oh I’m sorry
53:39
everything’s already been discovered
53:41
there’s nothing else to look for
53:43
that’s essentially what they’re doing
53:46
was standard like with these
53:47
standardized testings they’re saying and
53:49
he lived in a bubble happily just
53:51
ignorantly happily animal right he never
53:55
went anywhere right so uh right when you
54:00
were saying that I was just like oh
54:01
that’s like Truman because that’s one of
54:03
my favorite movies it’s one of the
54:04
greatest movies ever made my
54:13
back-testing also creates unreasonable
54:16
pressures to cheat it uses arbitrary
54:19
subjectively set pass/fail cut scores
54:24
they reduced teacher creativity in the
54:28
appeal of teaching as a profession in
54:31
general lesson concerns for and use of
54:36
continuous evaluation have no success in
54:41
life predictive power meaning if you
54:45
failing at a standardized test you gotta
54:48
fail at life you psychologically attain
54:50
that as you go right you unfairly
54:53
channel instructional resources to learn
54:56
is at or near the pass/fail score
54:58
they’re open to scoring errors with
55:01
life-changing consequences standardized
55:04
tests are at odds with deep-seated
55:07
American values about individuality and
55:09
worth which we discussed it creates
55:12
unnecessary stress and negative attitude
55:14
so it’s schooling per pet they
55:16
perpetuate the artificial
55:18
compartmentalization of knowledge by
55:20
field it channels increasing amounts of
55:24
tax money away from classrooms and into
55:26
corporate coffee
55:27
right.you yes waste the vast creative
55:30
potential and human variability walk
55:33
instructional innovations that can’t be
55:35
evaluated by machine unduly reward mayor
55:39
ability to retrieve secondhand
55:40
information from memory they subtract
55:43
the available instructional time they
55:47
lend themselves to gaming strategies to
55:50
improve the success rate of guessing it
55:53
seriously happens I did that for the
55:55
LSAT ID when I just prepared for the
55:57
LSAT a few months ago right we learn in
55:59
the out in the Kaplan LSAT prep courses
56:02
we we use gaming strategies and and that
56:04
definitely helped me out accessible
56:06
decently well let me help that and it
56:09
helped me out significantly so so it you
56:12
know that’s what so what you’re saying
56:15
what you’re saying with that is so so
56:20
what you’re saying there is that when
56:22
they’re teaching you basically how to
56:25
guess better as opposed to actually
56:26
learning the information yeah I remember
56:31
in fourth grade my teacher said like 29%
56:36
of the questions are a usually on the M
56:39
Casas Massachusetts something
56:41
standardized assessment whatever but the
56:44
M Cass the Massachusetts standardized
56:47
test he they knew the rate they came up
56:52
so if we didn’t know the answer he told
56:53
us to select a that’s gaming strategy I
56:55
remember that one explicitly for my own
56:57
use and so you mean that they’re even
57:00
going outside of trait teaching and
57:01
radio curriculum and teaching people how
57:03
to do better on these tests just make
57:05
teachers look good without actually
57:06
teaching actual it’s disgusting
57:10
it if you’re not actually teaching them
57:13
if you’re not actually spending the time
57:15
to teach the knowledge and you’re just
57:17
teaching people to a test or just how to
57:19
take a test not even teaching them they
57:21
teaching them the information on a test
57:23
you’re just saying this is the best way
57:25
to take gg’s right you’re not actually
57:28
teaching them anything and you’re
57:29
putting them out there in this world
57:30
thinking that they’re going to be able
57:32
to guess their way through life or
57:33
they’re going to be able to be given all
57:36
of the answers when everybody knows once
57:41
they
57:41
get out that that’s not the way it works
57:43
and it kinda insinuates to that there
57:46
are ways around things like oh you can
57:47
do a little bit better if you manipulate
57:48
it this way you know what I mean
57:50
probably helps create some integrity
57:53
concerns I mean well I mean that’s how
57:59
we get politicians all right all right
58:08
it’s where was I had this one okay yeah
58:12
they’ve walked instructional innovations
58:14
that can’t be evaluated by machine okay
58:18
yeah it blocked instructional
58:20
innovations that can’t be evaluated by
58:23
machine
58:24
they unduly reward mere ability to
58:26
retrieve secondhand information from
58:28
memory right it’s true actually they
58:31
they subtract from available
58:33
instructional time oh I read that right
58:37
and make time a parameter largely
58:39
unrelated to ability a factor and
58:42
scoring so they teach they also it is
58:49
time teach me how do you manage that
58:51
time on the exam then actually you know
58:56
learn what they need to need in life not
58:59
for the exam they create tests test
59:03
fatigue a version and eventual refusal
59:06
to take tests seriously they hide poor
59:09
quality test items behind secrecy walls
59:11
and what do you mean by secrecy walls
59:16
that’s all I got for right now they high
59:19
quality test items behind secrecy walls
59:24
they they whenever they get results back
59:33
from a group that they just taught that
59:36
year were in the new class coming in the
59:39
other new younger kids great great prior
59:43
they know they were poor on
59:53
they they will concentrate higher on
59:56
those other areas to hide their poor
59:59
quality and and just try at that I don’t
60:03
know how keep that secret up against
60:06
they they they they don’t want the
60:11
school to know that people are dumb and
60:13
they’re not learning math so then they
60:15
are able to teach for the test in math
60:19
but not actually teach them anything
60:21
with a really you know doing bad at all
60:25
comes down to is you know majority of
60:28
these things some of my knew many of
60:30
them are they these teachers educators
60:36
they they teach around the entire exam
60:40
and they the entire curriculum is based
60:43
off a lot of these exams and no
60:47
curriculum in the world so we based off
60:49
of a single exam you think it you think
60:51
the law school prepares you for the LSAT
60:53
know that the LSAT is supposed to be a
60:56
general all-encompassing you know a
61:00
general law Mar exam I mean cuz
61:04
different curriculums at different
61:05
schools they’re all taking the same test
61:06
and they all have similar pasteries and
61:12
you know in high school and in with kids
61:16
growing up these are all detrimental to
61:19
their psyche though and well first of
61:22
all they’re not getting taught and
61:23
secondly they’re getting taught to a one
61:27
objective and one objective only and
61:29
that’s it and so it’s it’s causing a
61:34
complete I mean it’s a waste of time
61:39
teaching not to that’s where not
61:43
teaching and it leads to a lot of other
61:46
issues that is that is actually one of
61:49
the biggest things the that’s actually
61:51
one of the biggest things that I’ve had
61:52
an issue with with education is that
61:54
we’re teaching kids to a test which the
61:56
way that you’ve actually described it is
61:58
we aren’t even in teaching them to a
61:59
test we’re teaching them how to take one
62:01
test right and that actually that makes
62:04
even more
62:06
but when I when I was going through
62:10
school like creative writing was it
62:13
wasn’t pushed on me but like I
62:14
gravitated to it it was it was that was
62:16
what I wanted to do that was what I
62:18
enjoyed doing so that was what I tried
62:20
to do that in all of my classes even
62:22
like math which that explains why I’m
62:26
awful at math now but a squared plus B
62:30
squared equals C squared means
62:32
absolutely nothing to me
62:33
like that does not matter even a little
62:35
bit to me right now I don’t is what I do
62:39
for my everyday job but we work with
62:45
stern algorithms for measurements I’m a
62:48
calibration engineer by trade so okay
62:50
that’s what I do my work does my
62:52
calibrate equipment so when you’re
62:55
working with tolerances and dimension
62:57
that’s all I do
62:57
right so sorry oh you’re fine you’re
63:00
fine but like that all I’ve ever wanted
63:02
to do is be a creative which you know
63:04
that’s why I started writing books and
63:06
that’s like I’ve written screenplays and
63:08
I’ve got you know some movies on IMDB
63:09
and stuff like that and that’s why I do
63:11
what I do here is because that is how I
63:16
that’s where I do my best and that is
63:19
how I learned the best way that I can
63:21
when it’s just here read this take this
63:25
test I don’t actually internalize
63:27
anything I just memorize it for the 30
63:29
minutes that I need to in order to take
63:31
a test and then it’s gone forever
63:34
it was when I was on I don’t know six
63:39
seven through sixth grade seventh grade
63:41
my buddy and I had some after school
63:43
thing and my mom came and we she picked
63:46
us up and she’s given us rides given my
63:49
buddy a ride back home and he and I were
63:52
talking about a TV show that had been on
63:54
the night before and this is when he
63:56
this is back when you had to watch a TV
63:58
show when it was on and then you didn’t
64:00
get a chance to see it again like ever
64:03
so he and I watched the show and then we
64:06
were talking about it in the car and we
64:08
like quoted the entire episode and my
64:11
mom said why can’t you do that at school
64:13
and I said well they don’t make it funny
64:14
and because it’s written I don’t like
64:17
schools not funny but I could have I
64:19
quota an entire episode of Night Court
64:21
with my friend without you know only
64:26
seeing it once and if they would kind of
64:31
be able to tailor education to students
64:33
where where they personally tailor it to
64:37
people like I I know it’s difficult
64:38
because you got a classroom full of kids
64:39
in many of these schools like I’m sorry
64:42
to cut you off right there but the
64:44
connotation Taylor I kind of want to get
64:47
rid of that I want to untie ler educate
64:51
that’s what we want for individuality we
64:53
want we want education to not be
64:56
tailored to a sect goal but I guess you
65:00
can use that term when you mean tailor
65:03
it to you know to open up to various
65:08
different opportunities right various
65:11
different ideas I mean because when
65:13
you’re I don’t know about you when I was
65:15
in eighth grade I kind of knew what I
65:16
wanted I mean I kind of already knew
65:20
what I kind of knew I basically knew
65:22
exactly in eighth grade when I kind of
65:24
knew an 11-3 right you know 12th grade I
65:27
mean I wasn’t much of a difference so
65:29
why can’t you just send a kid to Volk
65:33
school if that’s what he wants to go do
65:35
fresh you know in eighth grade seventh
65:38
eighth grade you know what if you want
65:40
to what if you want to be a farmer you
65:42
know and you don’t not going to use any
65:44
of that math history English and
65:47
you don’t want it you know yeah your
65:49
parents don’t even care to want it and
65:51
you want to learn to be a farmer you
65:53
want to learn how to manage a farm and
65:56
and and and manage a business so see
65:59
some some business courses teach them
66:01
you know ranching you know have this
66:07
there’s a market out there because we’re
66:10
all individuals we all think
66:11
individually there’s a market out there
66:13
for our own thoughts our own
66:15
decision-making it’s just that the
66:18
government took a monopoly on education
66:21
and we don’t have those markets anymore
66:24
the lows the markets all gravitated up
66:27
to college and secondary education right
66:29
where we need them we need them at a
66:31
younger age we
66:33
those odds schools at a younger age
66:34
right we need we need the workshop yeah
66:38
we need the wood shops and we need the
66:40
automotive classes in the farming class
66:42
I don’t know what those are called I’ve
66:43
never had that but those are the ones
66:45
that didn’t get standardized test it
66:47
right those oh they cut the funding for
66:49
them because it was useless race me to
66:52
that right and because and it’s because
66:54
students in New York City don’t need to
66:58
like there 99% of them probably 99.9% of
67:03
them aren’t going to become farmers so
67:05
they don’t need it so that there’s no
67:07
reason to teach it there so you can’t
67:10
put standardized testing on farming in
67:11
New York City where kids in Iowa a
67:15
larger percentage of them are gonna end
67:17
up in farming it’s just that’s the way
67:20
it is like in yeah it’s their own
67:23
personal choices it’s what they have
67:24
chosen to do but it’s for many of them
67:26
it’s what they love to do so because
67:30
these two two areas of the country
67:32
they’re so vastly different in cultural
67:35
makeup in economic makeup and socio
67:39
makeup in all of it because they’re so
67:42
different it’s like oh well we can’t
67:43
teach them the same thing so we need to
67:45
get rid of it out of our all of the
67:46
schools yeah yeah it’s sad actually I
67:51
mean because I mean Illinois is like a
67:53
perfect example for that you have
67:55
Chicago on one end and then you have
67:56
rural yeah the whole of the state and
67:59
and then you’ve got southern Wisconsin
68:01
on the other side right and it’s and
68:06
it’s all I they’re all held to the same
68:09
standards those people in these rural
68:11
farms in Illinois you know like well
68:13
Larry Bird grew up and I they they you
68:18
know they’re held to the same curriculum
68:21
the same standardized testing as Chicago
68:26
kids on it’s it’s completely egregious
68:29
too to keep everybody together and full
68:35
and but I can’t be taught discussed
68:37
early in a conversation we wanted to get
68:39
people to be patriotic and we got that
68:42
but then we didn’t know what the hell
68:43
else to do with us
68:45
so we thought collectively Oh
68:48
standardized testing this thing that
68:50
thing everybody has a new great idea to
68:52
make things better to work on to make
68:54
everybody smarter no no if you let
68:57
everybody think for themselves
68:59
individually
68:59
you would have more intelligent people
69:01
in a broader spectrum of experiences and
69:07
it would only be better for our society
69:10
to have people expanded to all those
69:12
different things and what it does right
69:16
now that it just completely it shuts
69:20
down I have a good article about Forbes
69:22
actually where woops discusses how young
69:32
I am a professor of education in the
69:37
College of William & Mary initiated a
69:43
what’s called a Torrance test and not
69:45
exactly what it is from this test they
69:49
made up it’s a Torrance test of creative
69:51
thinking and the study Raziel from K
69:55
through 12 that children have become
69:56
less emotionally expressive less
69:59
energetic lacks talkative and verbally
70:02
expressive less humorous humorous less
70:05
imaginative less unconventional less
70:07
lively less passionate less perceptive
70:10
less apt to connect seemingly to
70:13
irrelevant things less synthesizing and
70:15
less likely to see things from a
70:17
different angle which is exactly what
70:19
we’re seeing right now and that is
70:21
depressing it’s I mean all those things
70:24
are depressing but also especially
70:27
that’s a key point they brought up
70:28
you’re less apt to be open-minded and
70:31
see things from a different angle and
70:33
they that’s what we have without
70:35
completely bipartisan politics right now
70:37
nobody’s nobody’s in the center and
70:39
anyone nobody with you either one or the
70:43
other
70:43
there’s nothing in between and another
70:47
like and I mean most limited area most
70:52
libertarians I know are extreme on like
70:55
so you know they they’re extreme on all
70:58
of their beliefs
70:58
is that like like you said earlier about
71:00
taxes you know we’re like no taxes we
71:04
don’t want any taller no no but no but
71:12
you’re right so like and and I and I
71:15
know your feelings on taxes like it’s
71:17
the feelings that most of us have on
71:19
them but we get so much
71:21
no but you know libertarians are like no
71:25
taxes and if you as a libertarian or a
71:28
liberty minded individual if you are
71:30
actually in a governmental position and
71:32
you start pitching any sort of
71:35
legislation that has anything to do with
71:37
taxes you you’re just you’re not a
71:41
libertarian you’re you know people are
71:44
like you’re not real libertarian you’re
71:45
a socialist you’re you know you’re evil
71:47
if so like a lot of Liberty minded
71:51
people I’m gonna put that one in big old
71:53
quotes who support Donald Trump who
71:59
right yeah that exact place that’s how I
72:02
that’s what that’s the same face I make
72:04
a lot of Liberty – yeah property ran the
72:07
trumpet aliens yeah who are who forget
72:12
that Justin Amash is one of the most
72:14
principled people in Congress who stands
72:18
for every single thing that you say you
72:20
want to believe in but when he comes out
72:23
and he goes yet I think that the report
72:25
says Donald Trump committed oh god I
72:30
forgot the word where he tried to
72:32
obstruction I think that Donald Trump
72:34
tried to come committed obstruction I
72:38
think that we could move forward with
72:40
impeachment suddenly he’s the devil he
72:43
is the worst thing that’s ever happened
72:44
he has cut for spending he has he has
72:47
stood up for anti war he has stood up
72:49
for guns he has stood up for every
72:51
principle thing that we say we believe
72:53
in but because he’s going against the
72:55
President on this issue which granted is
72:59
a major issue but at least he’s
73:01
principled than everything that he has
73:03
ever done ever stated well one thing a
73:05
lot of a half of libertarians resent I’m
73:07
not – is just rural life but that’s the
73:10
way the biggest that’s the biggest issue
73:12
at 1:00 right but the other half of
73:14
libertarians doing but I mean what I am
73:18
I’m a pro-life libertarian I feel like
73:20
if you’re ripping upon another human
73:22
being that’s pretty egregious and
73:24
against the nap you know pretty
73:26
aggressively against the nap you know if
73:28
you asked me but I also come from a
73:31
family where my mother’s a 17 year old
73:34
crackhead my father was a 19 year old
73:37
piece of drunk me we lived in my own
73:42
civil 17 I couldn’t get out of there
73:45
soon enough
73:45
I needed to and and everybody in my life
73:50
that I held dearest to me wanna me
73:52
killed everybody wanted me killed my
73:54
mother kept me and I and that’s why I
73:56
over my life my mother didn’t kill me
73:59
and at that time it was still so it was
74:01
just becoming socially acceptable and
74:03
and not a big deal and she was the
74:06
epitome of somebody who should have
74:08
aborted somebody and killed me but I’m
74:12
here and I’m happy to be here and I know
74:14
all these other kids that are killed
74:15
they want to be here too right
74:17
that’s my stance emotion yeah so I’m god
74:23
I’ve never said why I have a mouse comes
74:25
from and oh because he takes science no
74:28
mosh and mas looks at the science and he
74:31
actually is one that got me into it
74:33
because he discussed about what a baby
74:35
feels at 12 weeks which is the average
74:37
it’s 12 to 14 weeks to the average of
74:40
wadding period right at 12 weeks a baby
74:43
feels pain has a nervous system has a
74:45
brain as all vital organs starting to
74:48
adjust food can move his hands and limbs
74:50
has a beating heart and it’s actually
74:54
starting to learn already and when the
74:56
forceps I saw the video and this is real
74:59
and this is what freaks people out when
75:01
actually you explain it
75:02
Hey sorry to do this from your podcast
75:04
but but when the forceps going to rip
75:08
the baby apart the baby squirms it moves
75:12
around it knows that things there that
75:14
shouldn’t be and it scrubs away from it
75:16
and my name gets its first limb ripped
75:20
off it it screams out in pain it’s
75:25
called the silent scream
75:26
don’t hear it but it’s most certainly
75:28
felt right and and that’s that’s a
75:32
person that’s being married and that’s
75:35
that’s my taken I’m pushing I’m
75:37
pro-choice everything but murder isn’t a
75:40
choice I mean technically with that
75:42
rationale like my son under a blanket
75:43
kill him in the blanket nobody saw it
75:46
nobody heard it that’s cool right well I
75:51
really hope you don’t do that no yes so
75:59
like I’ve I’ve actually somehow
76:02
miraculously never actually had talked
76:04
about this on the show like stones
76:08
oh yeah well other people have talked
76:12
about it but like I’ve just never done
76:14
it but so like I don’t do it no no no
76:20
I’m like so I’m I’m goddamnit
76:24
so no no you don’t have to yes no it’s
76:31
fine so I am more on the page of the
76:35
heartbeat bill was I think once the
76:38
heartbeats there that is when there
76:40
should be a cutoff that is where I’m
76:43
sort of mash that’s kind of that’s kind
76:48
of where I am once you get the heartbeat
76:49
that’s what like yeah I understand that
76:51
once once the sperm and the egg need and
76:54
suddenly it’s a it’s a different DNA
76:57
it’s it’s something different but I
76:59
think their hat there’s got to be I
77:02
don’t know if that qualifies yet but
77:04
once it gets the heartbeat
77:05
once it has the heartbeat that’s where
77:08
I’m like okay that’s that’s a separate
77:10
entity you do not have two words you do
77:14
not have a few hearts yeah exactly your
77:16
body doesn’t have too hot so it doesn’t
77:18
have two brains four hands four feet you
77:22
know four legs it’s you know and your
77:25
body your choice but that’s not your
77:27
blood right and that body wants that
77:30
body wants to live you know and then
77:34
then then you have the man oh all right
77:38
after this we’ll move on because it just
77:41
it gets me every time
77:42
the new laws you know being able to
77:46
avoid kill kids when they’re born I mean
77:51
I don’t even know what I’m still lost
77:56
for its with it like Cuomo I I hope
78:00
somebody’s ass tonight some I do
78:04
we here at muddied waters do not condone
78:08
the assassination of any political
78:10
figure and what Brian McDonald says is
78:15
not what yeah yeah so I so yeah I
78:24
totally disagree with I definitely just
78:27
agree with late term abortions and the
78:30
Virginia law where once they’re born we
78:33
can make a decision like that’s not a
78:35
lot I don’t think that were actually
78:36
signed it the greatest thing that
78:39
happened to Governor Northam in Virginia
78:41
is the blackface controversy because the
78:43
that took away from all of the abortion
78:45
controversy and now we aren’t even
78:48
talking about like that was a crazy two
78:51
weeks in Virginia with the abortion
78:52
controversy the blackface controversy
78:54
and then Justin Fairfax Justin Fairfax
78:58
possibly raping people when he was
79:00
younger like but none of that’s heard of
79:03
it all of that’s gone I was thinking
79:04
about that the other day I was like none
79:06
of that’s heard of anymore yeah it’s
79:09
funny though it’s funny though that the
79:11
media the blackface thing that went on
79:14
for two days that was anybody in the
79:16
right oh my god that guy would be out of
79:18
office oh yeah instantly yeah exactly
79:24
yeah I couldn’t believe that yeah yeah
79:28
so like I think that anybody that’s
79:30
saying you know late term abortion is
79:32
fine or especially when Northam is going
79:34
out there going you know after they’re
79:36
born we can put them aside and you a
79:39
decision can be made that means that
79:42
you’re thinking about killing a living
79:44
being I don’t care how you’re framing it
79:47
I don’t care what you’re trying to say
79:49
to make it better that is what you are
79:51
saying in that moment and the question
79:54
is where between a late-term between
79:58
being born to a late-term abortion like
80:02
the difference between that is you know
80:04
literally hours and at what point do you
80:09
draw your line on when it’s okay if
80:11
you’re saying not until that baby’s out
80:13
then you and I probably are not going to
80:15
be great friends right if you’re saying
80:18
you know in the first trimester if
80:22
you’ve got decent arguments maybe I can
80:24
like get my head around it like I’m not
80:26
gonna like ruin a friendship over I’m
80:28
just never going to talk about in with
80:29
you but for me it’s I’ve some friends
80:34
like that as well yeah but for me it’s
80:36
the heartbeat like for me it’s the
80:37
heartbeat if there’s a heartbeat that’s
80:39
a separate human being it’s it is
80:42
pumping its own life through its body
80:46
and there’s not much more of a more
80:48
national argument than that I mean I
80:53
mean they try to argue sentient being
80:57
all that you know I mean you know no eye
81:03
has been Shapiro’s because then the
81:05
majority the a pro-choice the e they
81:08
agree with child support well guess who
81:11
pays 99 percent of child’s men do okay
81:15
so they’re saying that they’re okay with
81:18
men not having the decision to not pay
81:20
child support what if the men wanted to
81:22
do it for what the kid what if they
81:23
wanted you know what if they wanted to
81:25
kill that child and they do not be
81:26
responsible for it but the state makes
81:28
them when the state can’t meet if you
81:30
not kill you kid I’m confused the
81:33
Apocrypha everywhere I don’t know yeah
81:37
via speaking system that’s all I ask
81:39
right and via I mean the men the men’s
81:43
right movements and red pilling and all
81:45
of that is a completely different
81:47
episode that we can one time do because
81:51
you know that’s a good point I go down a
81:53
lot yeah like that that is a completely
81:56
different episode yeah but I can go and
82:03
I’ve gone into depth with monopoly
82:05
speaking I want to say one last thing
82:07
okay let’s stop I want to say one last
82:11
thing about abortion and it’s it’s
82:13
economically related all right
82:16
not many people pay attention to the
82:18
economics in America and what exactly is
82:20
going on and this and that
82:23
don’t even want to get into it but
82:26
what’s happening right now as we have a
82:29
population crisis and it’s the negative
82:32
of what you think we’re not over
82:35
populating with deep talk depopulating
82:38
we’re with our jobs we’re not gonna have
82:41
enough people to fill the amount of jobs
82:45
that are gonna be have available they’re
82:47
talking about why our unemployment rate
82:49
so low it’s gonna stay so low not
82:51
because we’re a great economy not
82:52
because we’re making great economic
82:54
sound decisions and government they’re
82:56
all bad decisions what what’s happening
83:00
is we’re not having enough kids to fill
83:02
the jobs that are already there because
83:04
baby boomers
83:04
iname still aren’t even close to
83:07
completely retired and once they are
83:10
we’re gonna economically collapse
83:12
completely we’re not gonna have enough
83:14
jobs to fill they I mean we’re not to
83:16
have enough people to fill those jobs
83:17
that’s why I’m for one of two major
83:19
things completely opening the border so
83:22
we can get all those low-wage workers in
83:24
here to take those other jobs or we can
83:27
start killing our kids and you know
83:31
millions over the past few years and and
83:34
allow them to live so we can actually
83:36
keep our good stick quality of life that
83:39
we want because it’s going to degrade
83:41
one way or the other so that’s the
83:44
economic approach for that as well right
83:50
yeah I got somebody on here that I’ve
83:54
never talked about abortion within he’s
83:55
commenting going no with a bunch of OHS
83:58
I yeah I tried I tried that’s gonna get
84:04
me some bad press too but yeah I don’t
84:08
really care when it comes to that cuz
84:09
I’m very passionate about that song no I
84:11
get it
84:12
the people you see the people who have
84:14
survived abortions and that kind
84:16
the Ron Paul story about when he saw an
84:18
abortion and it was in his book chapter
84:25
14 I think but yeah he talked about
84:29
seeing an abortion and he and seeing
84:31
that they threw the bit was when an
84:32
abortion was illegal he saw an abortion
84:34
happen and abortion was throw an aborted
84:36
baby was found in a bucket and like it
84:39
was a lot he was like it was alive and
84:40
that was the moment that I knew I would
84:42
never be pro-choice and kind of reading
84:46
that I was like I can’t I can’t argue
84:51
this I can’t argue yeah I can’t argue
84:54
against this when do you see it or
84:56
experience a she I experienced it and I
84:59
saw the video and when I saw the baby
85:03
you know squirming away and then gasping
85:07
in pain I was like holy I mean
85:10
that’s whatever I mean cuz I kind of I
85:12
wasn’t accepting of it because of my
85:14
wife experience but I was willing to
85:20
deal with it I guess until I saw that
85:24
video I just came really animate about
85:27
it and so I just try to refrain talking
85:29
about it with people that obviously
85:32
aren’t open discuss about it or at least
85:35
similar minded as myself education
85:45
before I start dropping other pieces of
85:48
information about my personal life that
85:51
I don’t create myself here and I want to
85:56
discuss a couple key points real quick
85:58
where it’s coming into being a complete
86:02
not even what I teach my kids we went
86:04
over how it’s you know Santa’s testing
86:09
is degrading quality education to get
86:10
rid of all the other programs we don’t
86:13
have free market of school and we can go
86:16
to different schools the programs all
86:18
that stuff and now this is where it gets
86:19
into the minor economic part and from
86:24
stats that I have here this is from the
86:26
Friedman foundation
86:27
thank you guys they’re great free spot
86:29
foundations great from 1992 to 2009
86:34
students numbers increased 17% okay
86:37
rational with Paula population over the
86:40
years whereas the administrators and
86:44
other non teaching staff grows 46% so
86:50
students only rose 17% and teachers and
86:55
other staff non-teaching staff rose 46%
86:58
right what’s the reasoning I mean we I
87:02
mean that’s just in two decades you know
87:07
during that period – some states even
87:10
lost some students it kept hiring more
87:12
teachers that own this he his his little
87:18
shot I can show you from 1950 to 2009
87:23
the growth in students so how many years
87:27
is that 50 almost 60 years right 59
87:30
years 96 fury that yeah so you got
87:38
students 96% teachers 250 2%
87:42
administration and other staff 702
87:45
percent growth 702 % that’s consistent
87:52
right right
87:53
that’s existent that there’s that really
87:56
famous there’s a really famous graph
87:58
where they show testing scores for math
88:02
math English and something else I can’t
88:06
remove thirds from from the onset of the
88:10
Department of Education til two thousand
88:13
three or four and the test scores kind
88:16
of stayed level you know they kind of
88:17
went up they went down they went up they
88:18
went down but not not a lot and then
88:21
they showed number of teachers being
88:22
hired and that number was roughly just
88:27
about the same level as that graph was
88:29
you know about a hundred and twenty-five
88:31
percent or whatever that one said and
88:32
then number of administrators and
88:35
non-teaching staff being hired was shot
88:37
way up
88:39
and people are wondering why we’re
88:42
spending so much money on education and
88:43
that’s the reason why we’re spending
88:45
money on bureaucrats we’re spending
88:46
money on people who are actually helping
88:50
to do anything they’re just telling
88:52
people what they’re doing other jobs to
88:54
get their friends hired to get other
88:57
other friends on the job and it’s just
88:59
getting more and more people to be
89:00
relying out of state out of the private
89:03
force in the market and in just more
89:05
state jobs which I mean it’s it’s
89:07
complete black hole I mean that they
89:11
provide nothing absolutely nothing and
89:14
we pay exponential amounts for it I mean
89:18
ninety-six percent increase so twice the
89:21
amount of increase in students seven
89:25
times the amount of increase in
89:26
administrators in 2.5 the amount of
89:29
increase and teachers that is abhorrent
89:32
it that’s disgusting
89:34
it’s insane and the effect that people
89:35
are like we need to spend more money on
89:37
education it’s like why our test numbers
89:39
aren’t going up if and aye-aye-aye
89:44
teachers hate me when I say this they’re
89:46
laying down there like we we deserve
89:51
more money we have the toughest job in
89:53
the world you know we’re we’re the ones
89:55
that are teaching the future of America
89:57
and in my head I’m like I know you’re
89:58
not but I’m like okay you deserve more
90:02
money and they’re like yes we deserve
90:04
more money and I said if you get more
90:05
money are you gonna teach better like
90:09
are you not teaching to your fullest
90:10
capacity right now right I know that’s
90:16
one of those things you don’t even know
90:17
anything there’s gonna make more money
90:18
and that’s it
90:19
nothing’s gonna change right you know to
90:23
paraphrase and Milton Friedman right
90:24
here
90:25
he says government organizations like
90:27
public schools replace progress and
90:29
greater efficiency the stagnation and
90:32
higher cost and generally substitute
90:34
uniform mediocrity for the variety
90:36
essentially essential for what
90:39
experimentation which can bring
90:41
tomorrow’s leg laggards above today’s
90:44
mean and lead to greater organizational
90:47
efficiency there’s an absolute fallacy
90:51
that’s that’s the initial mindset it
90:53
like on face value the facade people
90:55
think throw more money at it roll more
90:57
this at it and it’s gonna work and it’s
91:00
not the case that’s not the case
91:02
whatsoever
91:03
it’s having individual free thought free
91:08
exchange of ideas and people have freely
91:12
being able to choose their own education
91:13
to choose where they want to go to
91:16
school to choose what they want to study
91:18
to choose what they want to have for
91:19
teachers for Christ’s sake you know if
91:22
you’re a public school you have a bad
91:23
teacher and you totally apparent there’s
91:25
nothing we can do about it
91:26
literally nothing No and yeah it’s that
91:31
it’s that now other thing I wanted to
91:40
bring up before we went to other things
91:45
is about the overreach that Department
91:51
of Education and what the government and
91:53
all the state organizations do to
91:58
families and the core construct of
92:01
families and family life in America we
92:06
will literally having good mothers good
92:08
parents that want a home school that
92:11
kids and in the state is coming and
92:15
taking their kids away and sending them
92:17
away right here I mean for example I
92:19
have so we the Kings right here the
92:32
Kings from New York they’re from New
92:34
York City right I read this whole story
92:37
and go deep into it but they have five
92:40
kids beautiful family african-american
92:44
family in New York obviously from from
92:47
not from money but they dress like it
92:51
they the father’s really really tries
92:56
his best to be the best man he can and
93:00
he’s he worked really hot and he had a
93:02
smart wife who’s a teacher
93:04
and he made enough money apparently to
93:06
go allow them to stay at home and so
93:09
they could she could teach the kids
93:11
during the day and they got everything
93:15
they got the state license they got
93:16
thing they got the curriculum from the
93:18
school they they they followed all the
93:20
guy they got the approvals they followed
93:22
all the guidelines all it took was a
93:24
neighbors complained about them
93:27
complaining about the neighbor and when
93:31
the cops showed up to the house they saw
93:33
paper towels on the ground and said that
93:36
and that was cuz of a leak from upstairs
93:38
and the neighbors apartment and so the
93:41
cop went in in told DSS that the kids
93:48
living in squalor and that they’re naked
93:50
and the there’s newspaper ruffled all
93:55
over the house feel like I was naked
93:58
from the cop was there was the one year
93:59
old who was in a diaper and and so I
94:03
wish I print out a picture of this
94:04
family so I can show you but so what I
94:08
came down to is that the parents had to
94:12
go and drop their kids off at the pool
94:13
house there’s some under the courthouse
94:15
they said they’re gonna have the kids
94:17
ripped out of their their home they
94:18
didn’t bring the kids to the courthouse
94:20
and so they made the decision not for
94:24
the kids to that traumatic experience
94:27
went down to the courthouse and drop the
94:30
kids off to get taken from them and they
94:33
had to deal with that and just walk away
94:35
and it’s it’s I have five other articles
94:40
here I’m running and get into but of
94:42
good families of great parents that that
94:46
have want the best for their kids is
94:48
what the hell they’re getting them out
94:49
of public school in the first place
94:51
right and and in these that the state is
94:55
so reliant on people’s dependence of
95:00
itself that it’s just it’s willing to
95:05
waste tax more tax dollars put these
95:08
kids into foster homes and separate them
95:10
from good parents to put them back into
95:12
public schools it’s depressing it’s
95:15
really really sad it is too
95:17
so my sister lives in Philly
95:22
she lives in Philly and the schooling
95:25
system in Philly not the best and you
95:28
didn’t know that it’s not a great
95:32
schooling system classes are overcrowded
95:35
they teach basically – they teach
95:37
basically – the tests even at the young
95:41
age of the of my nephew and so she
95:45
pulled them out and started doing home
95:46
schooling and that was actually
95:48
something I was concerned of late my
95:51
sister and her baby daddy there there
95:55
are good parents you know they care
95:58
about the kids I disagree with them on
96:00
what they’re teaching them but they’re
96:03
good parents like they care and it has
96:08
always been my concern that somebody
96:11
would complain about them keeping their
96:13
kids from school and they would in like
96:15
something like that would happen because
96:16
in a city like Philadelphia that I did I
96:22
could see that happening somebody puts
96:24
in a complaint feelings like we know
96:26
better than you your kids need to be
96:28
going to public school so we’re gonna
96:29
end up taking we’re gonna end up taking
96:31
your kids from you so they can go get an
96:33
education in our public school system
96:35
and then the kids get lost and in the
96:37
public school system it’s so sad you
96:41
know that family by the way hasn’t seen
96:43
their kids in two years that’s awful two
96:46
years all five of the kids yeah
96:49
and one was a not even one just turn one
96:54
you know getting raised without the
96:56
public and which I actually like that
97:00
article I pulled up because they they
97:02
want to talk about long hauls program
97:05
they’ve heard about that yeah yeah the
97:08
Ron Paul kiraku yep yeah yeah I mean
97:11
I’ve actually read it through and
97:12
through it’s awesome it really
97:14
concentrates on civics and in everything
97:20
else everything else is in it but the
97:22
key key core that’s missing is civics
97:24
and in history and that’s where that’s
97:28
where society and
97:30
of people as you know you know our
97:34
society which is what we learned from my
97:36
mistake we look back they astray see
97:41
where we went wrong certain policies and
97:43
we correct those but instead and we
97:45
don’t do that at all you know we don’t
97:47
even teach it we don’t want people think
97:49
about right yeah and that’s in I believe
97:55
it was Winston Churchill who said if we
97:57
don’t learn from the mistakes of our
97:59
past where we’ll be doomed to repeat him
98:00
I could be wrong I think it was him and
98:03
that is kind of what we’re forcing upon
98:05
each other or forcing upon our students
98:08
upon their children by not teaching them
98:12
history by not teaching them civics by
98:15
not teaching them the way that all of
98:16
this works because they’re not going to
98:19
know about the mistakes that were made
98:21
they’re not going to know about the
98:23
failures of the government from the last
98:25
150 hundred and sixty years they’re just
98:29
gonna say oh no the government’s good
98:30
the government’s good we need the
98:32
government and it is because of that
98:35
that when you end up having so many
98:37
we’re gonna end up having more issues
98:39
later on as these kids grow and get into
98:42
leadership roles yep yep and that also
98:47
comes back to the you know the
98:50
dependency that herd mentality I mean we
98:52
I mean by this construct the Department
98:55
of Education I mean we’re completely
98:57
altering the psyche of entire generation
99:02
but well I mean in to the point where we
99:08
don’t even have control like the Social
99:11
Work is in these CPS cases and stuff I
99:14
mean they willed massive massive power
99:17
over these families to the point where
99:19
they can’t do anything I mean they might
99:22
be able to get reason with but it’s only
99:24
if you play ball that’s only if you play
99:25
their game and and and and say yes I’m
99:30
gonna do this to make myself better I am
99:33
going to you know I’m gonna go to AAA
99:36
I’m gonna go to counseling which is more
99:39
tax wasted dollars because that’s
99:40
provided through the state and and but
99:42
tons
99:43
those programs and and you have to play
99:46
that game and do that just to get you
99:47
kids back and and as a member as a
99:51
person who has done a a I understand
99:55
that it works for some people but yeah I
99:59
wasn’t even saying a putting a negative
100:01
connotation to it they a no I’m just
100:03
saying the dictation well you’d have to
100:09
technically willfully do it but you’re
100:11
doing it to get you kids back right and
100:13
so what I got arrested when I was 19
100:16
years old I got arrested when I was 19
100:19
years old for possession of marijuana
100:20
and they made me yeah
100:23
and they made me go to they forced me to
100:28
go to either Narcotics Anonymous or
100:31
Alcoholics Anonymous classes and I had
100:34
to do that for two years I had to do
100:37
that and I had to come like when I went
100:38
into my probation officer I had to bring
100:41
in slips signed by people from AAA now
100:44
yes for two years I had to do that and
100:51
the only thing what I learned very very
100:54
quickly
100:55
is that it’s called Alcoholics Anonymous
100:59
which means I could sign any name to
101:03
these papers that I wanted as long as
101:05
they were in different handwriting’s so
101:08
like I found a way around it but I’m
101:11
certain that if it had to do with me
101:13
trying to get kids back it would have
101:15
been a much more intensive thing no and
101:18
that’s what one of these these issues
101:20
states this mother in Massachusetts in
101:25
Springfield had her kids taken away from
101:28
her I don’t know I look at the whole
101:35
articles yeah I was reported somehow she
101:38
was reported and she got caught with you
101:42
know a few grams of pot on her and it
101:46
was still illegal in Massachusetts is
101:48
rightfully decriminalize it this is like
101:50
15 years ago
101:51
that’s choosing one of the first states
101:52
actually you need criminalize it but
101:54
it’s right before the decriminalized it
101:56
she I don’t know did did like two weeks
101:59
a thirty days something like that but
102:02
then by the end of it
102:05
DSF get into her house and and took her
102:09
kids both of it does she smoke pot and
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she didn’t see her kids for I think it
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was uh two point five years and then
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something else happened and she couldn’t
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see them flick another year after that
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so it’s like three point five years you
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can see your kids because because of
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because of a few grams pot it’s so bad
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and and oh and the kicker is this is
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right before the decriminalized it while
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that crap was still going on like she
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couldn’t steer kids it terminal eyes
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she’s still good to see your kids that’s
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like the stories that’s awful in this
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great that’s like that’s like the
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stories that you hear now about the
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people who got busted for selling weed
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however many years ago and now weeds
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legal in their state and they’re still
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sitting in jail like and and the people
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who are out there defending it and
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they’re saying oh well you shouldn’t
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have done the crime if you can’t do the
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time and you know this is whatever I I
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don’t care
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late it’s a it’s not only doesn’t
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dictate morality exactly I mean I mean
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the the Nazis thought they were their
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moral listen to Hitler look how look how
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moral was killing all the Jews I mean I
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was I mean if you if you think that law
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and law enforcement can dictate and
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force morality I I kind of think of you
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as the sort of a moral person because
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you think a higher authority is whatever
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fits and you say you you you think that
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morality and what is right is whatever
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an authority tells you what it is and
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that’s that I mean that’s what our
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culture is gravitated to we just really
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have it shouldn’t have ever been that
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way right I mean
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and that in that that comes from
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generations of people going we need to
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get back to and this is both on the
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right and the left but generations of
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people be like so my parents you know
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they’re boomers so they are of that
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mindset of we need to get back to that
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what they’re boomers they we need to get
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back to that to the American standards
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that were in place in the 1950s and 60s
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you know when when people were moral we
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need to get back to that moral backbone
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because without that moral backbone
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America loses itself but you can’t I
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think that but you can’t you can’t
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dictate that by government it wasn’t
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dictated by government back then it just
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was when you started saying you can’t do
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these things was when people wanted to
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do them yep know exactly you know and a
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psychology trick right there but also
105:06
and that’s what the government did they
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destroyed the nuclear family because the
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nuclear family instead of relying on
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itself and each other they gained
105:17
reliance on the state so where even the
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head of the household the parents act in
105:24
the past that the parents were head of
105:28
the household what mom and dad said what
105:31
mom and pop says goes and that’s how you
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listen to that’s who you listen to you
105:36
to follow morality your parents are
105:38
going to teach morality but no you
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gravitated towards the state right but
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so um we are actually way over time it’s
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a yeah we wait I know I looked down and
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I was like holy crap we’re at an hour 45
106:07
I didn’t realize that I’ve been going on
106:13
that long I’m gonna have to bring you
106:16
back on at a separate time to like
106:18
continue this discussion because this is
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go this
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turn into like a four or five-hour thing
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if we just keep going
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I do kind of like one generalize know
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that we people should at least take away
106:51
from my discussion about it you know and
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I say what I say is this sadly as long
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as we allow the government to it any
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level to exercise monopolistic control
107:03
over the education of our children and
107:05
as long as we allow law to trump the
107:09
parents plans for the education of their
107:12
children then this tragic tale will be
107:15
told again and again across this once
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free country yes that is the best way
107:24
that you could have put that that is
107:26
absolutely the best way you could have
107:27
put that do you have I’d something fell
107:34
behind me I don’t know what it was um do
107:37
you uh do you have anything that you
107:39
want to pitch to everybody obviously
107:41
they can go and like you on facebook
107:43
calm slash libertarian dead I think it
107:46
is yeah libertarian daddy it’s the
107:49
Facebook pages libertarian dad at is I’m
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actually gonna try to put more resources
107:58
that make that grow and keep an eye out
108:01
for the the education reform caucus the
108:05
ERC I already have the website in the
108:07
Facebook page I’m and because I want to
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make sure that’s professional for you
108:13
guys you let us see some time and follow
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it’s beautiful and I’m gonna have to get
108:21
you back on because apparently we can
108:22
talk about this for hours
108:24
because we’ve already hit almost two and
108:28
we did so
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109:04
tomorrow I think for Jason Lyon who is
109:09
going to be back with a brand new
109:12
episode of mr. America the bearded truth
109:13
and then we’re going to be taking a
109:15
couple of days off the weekend as you
109:17
would call it before returning next week
109:20
with an all-new episode of mr. America
109:22
the bearded truth and on Tuesday fingers
109:24
crossed
109:25
that we have a new episode of muddied
109:29
waters of freedom actually on Tuesday
109:31
before spike returns on Wednesday with
109:34
his new episode of my fellow Americans
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have a great weekend yo Brian hang out
109:42
for a couple of minutes while I play the
109:44
outro song I’ll talk to you afterwards
109:46
cool everybody else enjoy your weekend
109:49
have a fantastic week and it’s not a
109:52
three-day weekend yeah so just have a
109:54
great weekend and we will see you guys
109:55
next week
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if I hit the right button there it is
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[Music]
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go umpires and attend my seven cell
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standing the legs I’ll go to convince
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the whole time world I don’t need
110:19
anybody
110:24
the swimming I have to save me a lonely
110:26
dragging down I’m trying to use your
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body as a life raft cuz if there’s room
110:32
enough for one there must be four to get
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you to sunset
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[Music]
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my hiding place is broadcasting the
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evening news I will be
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[Music]
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[Applause]
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[Music]
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don’t bother swimming and to save me I
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will only drag it
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don’t bother sweater to save me I will
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only drag that one myself it’s a
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standard saga
111:53
to convince all that world I don’t need
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anybody’s
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[Music]
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