(((My Fellow Americans))) #93: David Preston

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i’ll be
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buried in my grave
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before i become
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way back in the day happy
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but it seems like since
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change
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before i become
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is
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but it seems like since that day
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and oh live from beautiful myrtle beach
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got a really cool guest tonight you know
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we talk a lot about
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but i actually have an independent
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my guest tonight is a journalist and
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bamanewsnow.com bamanewsnow.com
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bamanewsnow.com
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which is one of the largest independent
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news outlets uh based in the state of
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alabama
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um and we are going to be talking about
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the differences between
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independent journalism and our in our
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crony corporate media that we
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that we often have to listen to the lame
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stream media so
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ladies and gentlemen my fellow americans
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without any further ado
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please welcome to the show my guest mr
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david
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preston david thanks so much for coming
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on man thank you spike for having me
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but you missed a platform that they can
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tune into us on too
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that’s it they have if they’ve had the
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coronavirus vaccine they can just tell
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bill gates to
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play us in their ear yes how could i
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forget the microchip
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network the bill gates find us on build
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us by twitching both of your ears like
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this no thank you so much for coming on
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this could be a really exciting
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conversation and folks be sure to uh
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leave
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comment with your thoughts and questions
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and david and i
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will tell you if you are right or wrong
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now david
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uh before we get started on all of this
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i i’m just curious what got you into
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you know what made you say i want to be
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an independent journalist i i want to be
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a journalist and and
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you know create my own news or not
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create my news but
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cover the news in my own way was that
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kind of a a a
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a an aha moment or sort of a gradual
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evolution over time tell us about the
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david preston genesis story
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a little bit of both actually i’ve
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always wanted to be a radio uh
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conservative radio talk show host ever
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since i was little
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and listened to rush limbaugh like
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everybody that’s in conservative talk
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radio nowadays is inspired by rush
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limbaugh
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but it really started a couple years ago
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when i participated in a
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gun discussion group that was led by
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spaceship media
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and advanced media which if you’re not
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familiar with who advanced media is
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they’re uh they own nj.comail.com
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oregonlive
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they own several websites and newspapers
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around the country
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but that happened the same in washington
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dc at the museum
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the same weekend they were holding the
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march for our lives route
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so they brought about 20 of us from
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around the country
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different backgrounds different
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political views and that really inspired
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me to start writing
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columns which were obviously tied to the
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gun
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the gun discussion but that kind of i
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got my bug i
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teamed up with a
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a guy out of huntsville who owns a
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website called bamapolitics.com
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i started writing regular columns for
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him but his vision for his website
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was different than what i wanted to see
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it go in i wanted to become more of a
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general news as well as opinion columns
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and sports covering
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everything and everything regarding to
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alabama so i kind of went out on my own
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and started bama news now and that’s
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what we’re working towards doing now
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cool very very cool so um you know
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we we talk a lot on all the muddy waters
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programs we’re not really journalists as
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much as more kind of opinion people but
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we do
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sometimes break news to the people that
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that follow us you know that right now
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what we’re going through
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in the media world is sort of this
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disruption that’s happening
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where uh there’s and there’s many
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disruptions
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the first one is you know the the old
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model that we’ve had for as long as
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we’ve had
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media which is that you get your media
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from a small handful
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of of corporate media outlets um
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are is is ending um even with the advent
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of social media becoming more and more
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corporate
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there’s still many more sources that you
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can get things from and within those
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social media
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outlets there are many other you know
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smaller outlets that aren’t directly
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affiliated with
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facebook or twitter or youtube or
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whatever else and so it’s it’s greatly
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opened up the ability
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you know we right now are producing a
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program
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from my computer that is better in
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quality and distribution
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than something that even the most high
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level media outlets could have produced
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even 10 15 years ago and this is now
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something that basically anyone can do
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so there’s been this
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massive decentralization democratization
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whatever you want to call it
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of the ability to do media at the same
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time you are seeing that corporate media
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become more and more centralized into a
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small handful of corporations
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and their attempts to use social media
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through their their connections in
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government and just general
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their their influence in pop culture to
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try to
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demean that independent media and you
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know write them off as a bunch of kooks
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and uh and it’s just a very interesting
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dynamic what is your take
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on you know on that struggle between
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independent and corporate media
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uh and how it plays out in how we are
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receiving information and news and so
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forth
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well both have a role to play in the
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media
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corporate media is not going anywhere
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anytime soon it’s very profitable i mean
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if you look at the
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the profit numbers for fox news i mean
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basically
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it’s the only property that the murdochs
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refused to sell to disney when they sold
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basically in the entire fox corporation
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a couple years ago right
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because it makes so much money but and
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the same with
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cbs abc nbc all of those properties
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but what’s exciting is not only
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are people do you have those different
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independent sources of media and you
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have that even at the state level
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like here in alabama you used to 10 you
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know 10
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years ago even 10 years ago you got your
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news from ale.com
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you got your news from iheartmedia where
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you got your news from
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uh from one of the tv corporate on tv
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stations and that was it yep
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but now we have ale.com we have uh
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yellow hammer news we have bama news now
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bama politics so you’re getting
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many more voices out on the table and
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what’s and what’s so exciting is
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people are actually searching out and
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looking for those different
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independent news voices and those
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different sources
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because they’re because they don’t trust
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the the corporate media anymore because
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the corporate media is saying
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but what you believe is wrong or what
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you believe is stupid or what you
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believe is a lie
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you’ve been told a lie so you need to
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just listen to us and listen to what
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what what you know we only going to base
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some facts and truth
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when in the old model way back when when
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william f buckley was was around the
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role of the media
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was to tell you the story give you all
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the facts as they can give them to you
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and then let you make up your mind as to
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what the truth is
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they don’t let you do that anymore in
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media they tell you what
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they think the truth is and if you don’t
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believe them then you’re a liar you’re a
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kook or you’re just
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you just need to be canceled because
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you’re
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because you’re destructive to america
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and that kind of mentality
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that we have that that’s in corporate
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media today is
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is really what is destroying the
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corporate media
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from the inside because i had a friend
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who’s a retired journalist tell me
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that when referring to the washington
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post actually
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that the washington post is arrogant but
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good
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and that was a very good description not
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only just for the washington post
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but for corporate media in general they
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are arrogant
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but good they they’re good journalists
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they’re great journalists that work in
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corporate america i’m not taking
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anything away from them right
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the organizations themselves are
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arrogant and and they think that if
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you don’t uh trust them only them or you
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don’t
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believe their truth then you are you are
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wrong and you are destructive to america
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that’s just wrong that’s you know if you
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treat your customers that way in
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business you’re not going to have
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customers very much long
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well and that’s the thing right this is
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what’s happening is that it’s not even
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that necessarily although there are
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definitely times that there are
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journalists that are hacks and and it’s
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not even worth naming names
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it does happen but generally speaking
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it’s not necessarily that the
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journalists are bad or that the
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journalism they’re doing is necessarily
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bad it’s that
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it is becoming increasingly editorial as
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you said and the editorial is
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essentially
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if you don’t agree with us on this
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you’re a bad
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person you are stupid you’re gullible
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uh you’ll listen to anyone and frankly
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you shouldn’t be taken seriously and i
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mean if if you look at what’s going on
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with kofi
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i was saying and i’m not i’m no genius
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okay but when i got
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sick in february after attending the new
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hampshire primaries where i interacted
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with many many many many many people
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okay
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i leave that and shortly after a few
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days later i get extremely sick and i
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really rarely get sick and i go to the
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doctor and i go
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is this that coronavirus thing because i
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was around a lot of people i know
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supposedly
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there are only a few people here who
17:30
have it it turns out that was a lie but
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i said you know is it possible i have it
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and the doctor said she said yeah you
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might have it
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uh but there’s no way of knowing we’re
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not allowed to test for it yet
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which was shocking to me and she said so
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we’re gonna give you the
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uh the flu virus or the flu vaccine or
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the flu test
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they gave me the flu test came back
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negative she said okay
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let’s assume you have covid uh or some
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other similar viral infection stay home
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for at least two or three weeks
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until until you feel better so i
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voluntarily
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uh quarantined myself for uh the rest of
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february and even a good bit of march
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because i just didn’t want to
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inadvertently be spreading it
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they were talking about it could last
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for 27 days back then
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you know we really didn’t know a lot but
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at that time while i was voluntarily
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quarantining i was literally in this
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room making these videos
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um i uh i was also making anti-lockdown
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videos saying lockdowns aren’t a good
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idea
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mask mandates aren’t a good idea and the
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narrative then from corporate media was
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you idiot that’s never gonna happen here
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two or three weeks later
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the corporate narrative was you idiot if
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you don’t go out if you go outside or if
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you don’t do what what they say and do
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these lockdowns then you’re killing
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everyone’s grandparents
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uh and and we now know we have the
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benefit of an entire year knowing that
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the data is showing that the lockdowns
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didn’t work
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that even the mass mandates didn’t work
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um that there wasn’t any real
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appreciable difference between similar
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states and cities and communities
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that had these mandates and lockdowns
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and that didn’t and yet the entire time
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and even now
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corporate media not just the government
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the politicians we expect that from them
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but corporate media continues to tell us
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that we
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are you know harming other people
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if we are for example going outside to
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see our
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going outside uh to you know st
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patrick’s events or going outside to
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sports events
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or going inside to see our families for
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thanksgiving or christmas
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or you know doing any of these other
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things now of course when there were
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massive biden celebrations
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after biden won that was okay that was a
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celebration of democracy but then
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after that again after that then it was
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bad again you know is there a point
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where they will sense that maybe they
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can also get things wrong
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and should maybe be a little bit more
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humble or is it really going to take us
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just
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leaving them and going on to media that
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you know
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at least treats us like maybe we know
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what we’re talking about we aren’t a
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bunch of rubes and idiots
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they’re never going to learn and the
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reason i the
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the perfect example i can give of why
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they are never going to learn to become
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more
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humble and be self-critical critical
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which is what they really need to do
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to become better as an organization not
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just journalists but as an organization
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is the the recent news out of washington
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washington post
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was just exposed for uh basically
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making up quotes on a trump phone call
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to
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election officials in georgia so stuff
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that was never said
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never said they basically that they put
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in quotes
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and it was uh and it was presented as
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these are direct quotes and you know two
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or three months later obviously after
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biden’s in office and doesn’t really
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matter anymore they came back and
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it was they didn’t even come back it had
20:38
to be exposed by different media
20:40
organizations and the washington post
20:41
said
20:42
well our source basically paraphrased
20:45
and summarized what was in
20:47
the the phone call and we inadvertently
20:49
put it in uh
20:50
in quotes no you presented that
20:53
information as a direct
20:54
quote you did it you got wrong you got
20:57
it wrong you got the
20:58
quotes wrong you should have presented
21:00
it as a as a paraphrase
21:02
as paraphrasing or summarization not as
21:05
a direct quote
21:06
and instead of apologizing you’re just
21:08
trying to
21:09
deflect and obfuscate your
21:11
responsibility in this matter and it’s
21:13
just wrong
21:14
and like zach britt says in the comments
21:16
it was on tape
21:17
this was uh this was a uh this was
21:20
something that was recorded and we know
21:22
that there were other things that were
21:23
on there where things were where he had
21:24
made
21:25
some kind of veiled threats and things
21:26
like that but there were actually parts
21:27
of it
21:28
that were like you said they were quoted
21:30
but the whole recording is there for you
21:31
to listen to and it actually wasn’t
21:33
there it’s a very
21:34
it’s a very interesting thing that that
21:36
you know and like you said then when
21:37
when they get caught they go
21:38
well you’re you know yeah you’re you’re
21:40
all a bunch of fools and it’s a very
21:42
uh it’s a very interesting dynamic let’s
21:45
let’s talk about
21:46
how uh media is covering
21:49
uh for example the first 50 days of joe
21:51
biden of the by
21:52
50 plus what are we up to 60 55 days
21:55
something like that
21:56
something like that um joe biden um well
21:59
let’s first of all say
22:00
when we say corporate media there is a
22:02
left corporate media
22:04
and a right corporate media kind of a
22:06
center right and center left corporate
22:07
media
22:08
um the center left is obviously much
22:10
larger um
22:12
and then the center right um just as a
22:15
result of them kind of being the media
22:17
for the longest period of time and then
22:18
you know this more disruptive
22:20
uh fox media but in terms of viewership
22:22
and things like that it’s actually
22:23
pretty even
22:24
um but so let’s look at the you know the
22:27
first 50 days of the biden
22:28
administration
22:28
the major differences between the biden
22:30
and trump administration from what i’ve
22:32
seen
22:32
uh in terms of actual policy not
22:34
rhetoric but policy
22:36
the major differences i’ve seen are that
22:38
uh you now have to wear a mask
22:41
when you are on federal property unless
22:43
and on airplanes unless you’re joe biden
22:46
or john kerry
22:47
um and then also uh transgender
22:50
people are able to serve in the military
22:52
again uh
22:54
there is no in terms of everything else
22:56
we are still seeing
22:57
massive deficit spending with no end in
22:59
sight we are still seeing
23:01
uh uh escalations of wars overseas we
23:04
are still seeing families and children
23:06
being put in cages
23:07
i’m sorry overflow migrant detention
23:09
facilities they’re not cages anymore now
23:10
they’re
23:11
facilities but we’re seeing children and
23:13
families being put in cages
23:14
we are seeing uh what was essentially
23:17
the
23:17
the logical conclusion to covid uh
23:20
with both the warming of the weather uh
23:23
us approaching
23:23
something resembling herd immunity and
23:25
the vaccines which was something that
23:27
was going to happen
23:28
if trump was in office vidin was in
23:29
office that’s not a big difference so
23:31
there isn’t really a huge difference and
23:34
yet
23:35
would you say that there’s been a
23:36
difference in how corporate media has
23:37
been covering the last 50 plus days or
23:40
two months or whatever compared to i
23:42
don’t know the last four years in office
23:45
oh absolutely the just the tone and
23:48
tenor of the
23:49
the way that the the journalists are
23:51
covering the different administrations
23:53
like i believe one of the first
23:55
questions from the current press
23:57
secretary
23:58
uh jin saki when she became press
24:00
secretary after the inauguration
24:02
was something about animals or something
24:04
that’s not that is a question that uh
24:07
would have never been asked of sarah
24:08
huckabee sanders because
24:10
they were too busy trying to you know do
24:12
gotcha questions to her
24:13
or about trump or for trump or whatever
24:17
and you’re right first of all on uh on
24:19
the you know
24:20
all these uh these stooges in the
24:22
liberal uh
24:23
corporate media they owe me gas money
24:26
because i don’t know if you’ve noticed
24:27
the price of gas lately but it’s almost
24:30
gone up
24:31
here in alabama a dollar per gallon over
24:33
what it was
24:34
when trump last thought left office now
24:36
yes all of that’s not
24:38
uh joe biden’s responsibility you know
24:40
that
24:41
right oil’s a worldwide commodity
24:45
but he does have a lot to do with it and
24:48
uh but you know again like i was going
24:51
back to the corporate media
24:52
and it’s and like you said it’s on both
24:54
sides fox news has certainly become more
24:56
combative
24:57
and more you know in your face about
24:59
their coverage of the right right
25:00
right and uh uh
25:03
and the the the other outlets have
25:06
become a lot more
25:07
friendlier to the uh with their coverage
25:10
of the biden administration than they
25:11
were with the trump administration
25:13
right and i’m like it’s your job as a
25:15
journalist not to be friends with any of
25:17
these people
25:18
and not to ask them softball questions
25:20
but to ask them hard-hitting
25:22
questions and demand that they answer
25:24
your question
25:25
if they don’t answer it right then and
25:26
there and the press conference that you
25:28
follow you can
25:29
continue to follow up with them you
25:30
continue to ask for the information that
25:32
you’ve asked for
25:33
and you press them until you get the
25:35
answer that’s what a journalist’s job
25:37
used to be
25:38
it’s not that anymore and and
25:41
until corporate media realizes that
25:43
that’s the type of journalism that so
25:45
many americans
25:47
is looking for and is missing from tv
25:50
news cable news
25:51
even local what’s left of local
25:54
newspapers
25:55
and websites they’re going to continue
25:57
to lose viewership and they’re going to
25:58
continue to lose a readership
26:00
and it’s going to continue to continue
26:02
to harm the corporate media industry
26:04
because that’s one of the reasons why i
26:07
started seeking out
26:08
independent sources of media because i’m
26:11
reading
26:12
as much as i can because it’s that uh
26:14
because i’m looking for that in-depth
26:17
in-depth coverage of our of a subject
26:20
like for example
26:22
uh cnn i used to have the cnn news app
26:25
on my phone when
26:26
trump was inaugurated there was one
26:28
subject
26:29
related to the inauguration i can’t
26:30
remember what it was but cnn had
26:33
five different articles listed at the
26:35
top of their app
26:36
all about the same subject when one
26:39
in-depth article
26:40
from maybe one or two of the journalists
26:42
would have done and it could have they
26:43
could have gone a deep dive into
26:45
into it but they but they didn’t do it
26:47
and it and that’s what
26:49
that’s why corporate media is being
26:52
labeled as biased and fake news
26:54
because they because it when they do
26:56
something like five articles on the same
26:58
topic
26:59
it makes the reader or the viewer feel
27:02
like
27:02
they’re bombarding and they’re going
27:04
after that subject matter which just
27:05
happened to be trump
27:07
yep yeah it’s an interesting thing two
27:09
two things and they are fake news
27:11
uh even if what they’re saying is true
27:13
uh at times the way that they present it
27:15
is in the most phony way possible you
27:17
will see
27:18
how the same headline is used over and
27:19
over again for a series of stories
27:21
when it’s obvious that these
27:23
corporations are pushing a specific
27:24
narrative
27:25
often that is very cynically made just
27:28
to benefit them and make them profit
27:30
it’s absolutely incredible i think two
27:32
things and you mentioned one of them was
27:34
was energy two things that have shown a
27:35
real sharp shift in how
27:37
uh things are being covered um i i want
27:40
to say personally i think that uh
27:41
gas prices right now are largely a
27:44
result of the fact that the economy is
27:46
opening back up
27:47
that you know there’s this sense that we
27:48
are seeing the light at the end of the
27:50
tunnel with covid
27:51
uh the big major move in energy that uh
27:54
the the two big major moves in energy
27:56
that biden has made the cancelling of
27:58
the uh the keystone pipeline which was
28:00
kind of dead in the water and hadn’t
28:01
been completed
28:02
and his moves to uh not allow any new uh
28:05
um or continuations of fracking licenses
28:08
on federal lands those are things that
28:10
will affect will definitely affect
28:12
energy of prices
28:13
in the future i don’t know outside of
28:15
some speculation
28:17
how much that’s going to affect prices
28:18
right now i think it has more to do with
28:20
the
28:20
with just the the natural ramping up of
28:22
the economy that’s going to happen once
28:23
people
28:24
feel like the pandemic is we’re on the
28:26
tail end of the pandemic
28:27
but we see how it’s being covered
28:29
differently if donald trump was in
28:31
office and this was happening
28:32
the you know left side of corporate
28:34
media which is the bulk of corporate
28:36
media
28:36
would be finding a way to blame trump uh
28:38
and the right-wing media would be saying
28:40
well no this is a natural occurrence
28:42
whereas now it’s flipped around the
28:43
media is either ignoring the
28:44
the majority of media is either ignoring
28:46
it uh or or explaining it
28:48
uh and the right-wing media saying no
28:50
joe biden has driven up you know
28:51
energy costs another one is uh the fact
28:54
that uh joe biden still hasn’t had a
28:56
press conference where he’s actually
28:57
taken
28:58
questions from anyone uh and the few
29:00
times he has taken questions from
29:01
a journalist he’ll come over and say yes
29:03
we’re in discussions with people or
29:05
something like that and then immediately
29:06
walk away
29:07
um and we know that you know when when
29:10
trump
29:10
didn’t give regular uh press conferences
29:13
the few times that he didn’t do that
29:15
that left side of corporate media was
29:17
saying
29:18
where’s trump trump is hiding trump’s
29:20
hiding hiding from us
29:21
uh you know why haven’t we heard from
29:23
trump and yet biden as i understand it
29:25
has actually broken a record
29:27
for the uh a hundred year of record for
29:29
the longest time that a a sitting
29:30
president has gone since he’s been
29:32
inaugurated
29:32
um that he has not uh spoken with
29:35
journalists um so i guess my question is
29:38
i was just going to say but he’s hard at
29:40
work trying to solve the problem of the
29:42
the the pandemic he doesn’t have time to
29:44
do a press conference according to the
29:46
corporate left stream media
29:48
because he’s hard at work but
29:51
would you really want uh to have a press
29:54
conference with
29:54
a president that looks like lemony stick
29:57
it from the series of unfortunate
29:58
minutes
30:00
i mean no i didn’t vote for him i i
30:02
voted for myself so uh
30:05
well thank you well that means a lot
30:07
thank you thank you i wasn’t gonna
30:08
i always feel weird asking me did you
30:10
vote for me but that but hey thank you i
30:11
appreciate that
30:12
um you know it’s very libertarian the
30:14
last two election cycles mainly
30:16
uh because you know i got dissolution
30:18
with the republicans but also
30:20
i just really did not like trump i mean
30:24
his personality
30:25
you know we he trump and i agree on a
30:26
lot of things a lot of policy
30:28
but just and for me it was just the way
30:31
he talked about the female members of
30:32
his family just
30:33
rubbed me the wrong way and because i
30:35
live in alabama
30:37
and trump both broke he was going to win
30:39
alabama
30:40
yes in alabama i knew i could vote for
30:43
the libertarian party
30:44
and he would still win this state with
30:46
state so i was like you know what i’m
30:47
going to give my vote to the libertarian
30:49
party hopefully enough people do that
30:51
that we can uh
30:52
we can get them uh better ballot access
30:55
which
30:56
you know as well as i do was not
30:59
successful the last couple of times
31:01
no but i appreciate your support where
31:03
and we’re building on it as much as we
31:04
can
31:05
um uh in the comments uh sarah morales
31:07
says that we are in a series of
31:09
unfortunate events so it would be
31:10
appropriate that
31:11
that we’ve elected biden um you know it
31:14
but it’s it’s a very interesting thing
31:16
to see that that shift and
31:17
and you know uh even when they’re
31:20
talking about the kids in cages that’s
31:21
that was the big one right like for for
31:23
a good part of 2018 and 2017 it was the
31:25
kids in the cages
31:26
we got to do something about the kids in
31:28
these cages trump is putting kids in
31:30
cages
31:30
and one of the few things that trump
31:32
said that i i actually cheered on when
31:34
he said it i i was live streaming it on
31:35
on
31:36
on muddy waters when he was doing it in
31:38
the debate he said to joe biden
31:40
who built the cages joe and he was right
31:43
barack obama who still i still call him
31:46
the deporter in chief
31:47
because he still has the single term
31:49
record for
31:50
uh most number of immigrants deported uh
31:53
and detained
31:54
uh and it was it wasn’t even cl you know
31:56
uh donald trump didn’t even come
31:58
close uh to the number of uh it was
32:00
something like four or five times more
32:02
that were deported by uh obama than by
32:04
trump in in
32:05
in their respective uh single terms or
32:08
first terms
32:09
uh it is it’s you know it’s wild to see
32:11
that shift where it’s like
32:14
yeah you know uh uh it’s not a problem
32:17
anymore or you know well at least the
32:18
person doing it isn’t saying mean things
32:20
and tweeting mean things about migrants
32:22
anymore it’s like
32:23
yeah i’m sure that’s a real consolation
32:24
of them while they’re being shoved in
32:25
cages in record numbers like
32:27
it’s it’s it’s absolutely amazing so you
32:29
you’re of the opinion that this is not
32:30
something that
32:31
they’re going to self-correct this is
32:34
there’s so much hubris there
32:35
that they’re just going to continue to
32:37
lose market share as they continue to
32:39
insult
32:40
larger and larger portions of their of
32:41
their intended uh target audience
32:45
they will continue uh they will continue
32:47
down this path
32:48
until they get to the point where their
32:50
corporate overlords and that’s one more
32:52
columnist corporate overlords
32:54
they’re basically their corporate board
32:55
rooms look at the bottle
32:57
you know look at the bottom line and
32:59
realize that their bottom line is
33:00
shrinking
33:01
because their news divisions are losing
33:03
more and more money
33:05
because advertisers don’t want to
33:06
advertise on those
33:08
on those uh those productions because
33:10
nobody’s watching them
33:12
that is the only way that they are ever
33:14
going to get
33:15
close to the point of self-correcting
33:17
because
33:18
you know money money walks talks
33:21
everything else walks
33:22
right right right and it’s funny and
33:24
they’re seeing a major
33:26
reduction in ratings because trump’s not
33:28
around anymore
33:30
and uh they can’t even talk about his
33:32
tweets because he’s not on twitter so
33:33
all they can do is mention his
33:35
occasional uh you know press release
33:36
that he puts out
33:37
and i’ve seen a dynamic especially of
33:39
people on the uh on the left who i’ve
33:42
i’ve heard it so many times and seen it
33:43
so many times on me social media and i’m
33:45
sure those of you watching at home and
33:47
david you probably have as well
33:48
people going i’m so glad that i don’t
33:50
have to pay attention to the news
33:52
anymore
33:53
now that we have a good decent president
33:55
in office i don’t have to follow
33:57
what’s happening right now and it’s like
33:59
well first of all
34:01
yeah you do and the fact that yeah you
34:03
really should be the the fact that you
34:05
uh uh the fact that you uh are just
34:08
giving total trust to joe biden
34:10
maybe you should be paying attention
34:11
because some bad stuff’s happening right
34:13
now but also that can’t be good for
34:15
ratings these are people that were
34:16
watching
34:16
cnn and msnbc to get their daily outrage
34:20
porn and now that you know someone that
34:22
they are we’re told that they can trust
34:24
is in office they’re like oh that’s fine
34:25
i don’t need to cover the news
34:27
you know i you know there he’s got to
34:28
handle everything’s going to be okay so
34:30
that certainly can’t be helping their
34:31
ratings
34:32
oh absolutely isn’t uh helping the
34:35
iranians you know uh
34:36
barbara walters uh when she was still on
34:38
the view
34:39
said it best when barack obama was
34:41
elected president
34:42
that the best thing that ever happened
34:44
to rush limbaugh
34:46
was barack obama getting elected
34:47
president because
34:49
uh because that forced conservatives to
34:51
start paying attention again because
34:52
they had gotten used to
34:53
eight years of george bush in office
34:55
they may or may not have liked george
34:57
bush but
34:57
he was a nice affable guy and he wasn’t
35:00
really doing anything that was
35:01
uber uber liberal so they really could
35:04
tune out and go do whatever they wanted
35:06
to do
35:06
but once barack obama became president
35:08
they had to start paying attention again
35:10
and guess what happened to the the
35:11
ratings of conservative media outlets
35:13
like rush limbaugh fox news and
35:15
and so forth they went sky high because
35:18
conservatives start paying again
35:19
paying attention again you’re starting
35:21
to see that same phenomenon
35:23
ratings for fox news news max other
35:25
conservative
35:26
media alex are starting to go back up
35:28
because conservatives are tuning in
35:29
again
35:30
and the ratings for liberal left uh
35:32
left-wing
35:33
media outlets are going down like cnn
35:36
because
35:36
democrats don’t feel like they have to
35:38
pay much attention because their man’s
35:39
in office
35:40
their man’s going to take care of them
35:42
their man is going to send them a 1400
35:44
stimulus check every month and
35:46
everything life is going to be great
35:47
in alexis de tocqueville’s america
35:51
hell yeah alexis de tocqueville’s
35:52
america yeah no it’s it’s very
35:54
interesting it is a it is an interesting
35:56
thing that
35:57
you know the media who demanded
36:00
essentially or the part of media that
36:02
demanded essentially that joe biden be
36:04
president
36:05
is now suffering as a result of it in
36:07
their in terms of their profit
36:08
but the thing is media and this is part
36:11
of the something we need to
36:12
cover uh or talk about corporate media
36:16
is really a
36:17
lost leader for the the larger
36:19
corporation it’s a part of they’re fine
36:21
with their media outlet losing
36:22
at least some money as long as the other
36:25
rest of the corporation is doing fine
36:27
and good and
36:27
we have a corporatist president to match
36:30
corporatist presidents when it comes
36:31
with handing
36:32
massive corporate welfare and bailouts
36:34
to the big crony corporations mega
36:37
you know mega corps and multinational uh
36:40
multi-trillion dollar
36:41
billion dollar businesses um that
36:43
they’re getting handed trillions of
36:44
dollars
36:45
and you’re getting stuck with the bill
36:46
for you know if you look at all these uh
36:48
all these stimulus bills that have
36:49
happened uh there is
36:51
already been a 6.6 trillion dollars
36:54
spent
36:55
when you compare the amount of money
36:56
that’s been spent from the stimulus
36:57
bills
36:58
uh the the three stimulus bills the uh
37:01
executive actions that have been taken
37:03
in the federal reserve actions that have
37:05
been taken
37:05
something like 6.6 trillion dollars have
37:07
been spent already
37:09
that works out to roughly 20 000 per
37:12
american citizen not taxpayer not
37:14
household
37:14
every single american in this country
37:17
would get
37:18
roughly 20 000 uh instead they’ve all
37:21
been stuck with twenty thousand dollars
37:22
bill plus interest and there’s another
37:24
four trillion dollars to be spent almost
37:26
four trillion dollars to be spent which
37:28
will bring in the total up to thirty two
37:29
thousand dollars
37:30
the average american has thirty two
37:32
hundred dollars to show for that so
37:33
roughly a tenth of what they’re gonna
37:35
end up being stuck with a bill for
37:36
with interest the interest interest will
37:38
end up over the next 40 years being more
37:40
than the 3 200 bucks that they got out
37:42
of the whole thing it’s a huge shell
37:44
game but anyway
37:45
before we go down to that whole rabbit
37:46
hole let’s talk about something
37:48
kind of shift gears a little bit uh and
37:50
talk about
37:51
uh we’ll we’ll still stay on on a
37:53
federal thing uh here’s someone who
37:55
actually
37:56
is a holdover from the uh trump
37:58
administration
37:59
uh dr anthony fauci i think i’m saying
38:01
that correctly
38:02
um you wrote a very interesting peanuts
38:05
well i was going to say you you wrote a
38:07
very interesting article recently
38:09
comparing him
38:10
to lucy from peanuts and i i want you to
38:13
explain this because
38:14
uh it’s a really fun article to read and
38:17
i will actually put it in the
38:19
in the comments while you’re while
38:20
you’re talking about it so people can
38:21
read it later
38:22
um but uh you know without i don’t want
38:25
to i don’t want to bury your lead here
38:26
so go ahead
38:27
how is dr fauci like lucy from peanuts
38:30
okay i got the idea
38:32
the idea was inspired by the by an
38:35
interview he did with abc news left the
38:37
corporate media
38:38
in which he said that he uh the reason
38:41
why he initially said
38:42
60 to 70 of americans need to get the
38:46
vaccine for herd immunity to take effect
38:48
is because he felt like
38:49
less than half of americans were going
38:51
to want to get the vaccine
38:53
when he saw numbers that upwards of 60
38:56
to
38:56
65 of americans were
39:00
were willing to get the vaccine he said
39:02
he felt comfortable upping that number
39:03
to
39:04
75 to 80 percent and i’m like
39:08
i didn’t i’m not a doctor i didn’t go to
39:10
medical school
39:11
but i did take high school biology and a
39:14
high school human anatomy
39:15
that’s not the way he herd immunity
39:17
works
39:19
heard immunity work doesn’t uh doesn’t
39:21
change based off of
39:22
how many people are willing to get
39:24
vaccinated or not herd immunity
39:26
is a definite finite number now it’s
39:28
different for different viruses i will
39:30
grant you that
39:31
but it’s a definite finite number that
39:33
you need to reach for the
39:34
for basically the herd quote unquote the
39:38
human population
39:39
to be immune from that virus and uh
39:42
and i was like and i started thinking i
39:44
was like and then thinking back on
39:46
how many times has dr fauci been wrong
39:49
throughout the
39:50
pandemic you know with the first of all
39:52
when
39:53
it first started he’s like don’t wear
39:54
face masks they’re useless
39:56
i’m like that doesn’t make sense either
39:58
because anybody that’s taken
40:01
high school biology knows that if it’s a
40:03
coronavirus which we know
40:05
there’s like 12 15 coronaviruses out
40:08
there we’ve named like nine of them
40:10
uh so but to be a part of a family like
40:14
a coronavirus family
40:15
you have to share certain
40:16
characteristics like you have to share
40:18
certain genes with your
40:19
extended family to be considered a
40:21
family member right i mean
40:22
your cousins they’re not like you but
40:24
they’re like you because they have
40:26
similar genes right
40:27
right right right right but so i was
40:30
like
40:31
and one of the we and what we know about
40:33
other coronaviruses is they are highly
40:34
transmissible
40:36
through the air through through
40:37
breathing in so why aren’t
40:39
why aren’t they telling us to wear a
40:40
face mask and then eventually it changed
40:42
to you need to wear face mask so he
40:44
changed he’s changed his story so many
40:46
times throughout the pandemic i was like
40:48
this guy is lucy with the football and
40:50
charlie we
40:51
the american people are charlie brown
40:54
and i was like
40:55
that would make a great column so i
40:57
started writing it and then i remember
40:58
you remembered while i was writing it i
41:01
was like didn’t lucy also run a
41:03
medical advice stand where she could get
41:05
medical advice
41:06
yes for five cents yep yeah i was like
41:09
well
41:10
if he continues to be wrong and
41:11
continues to change his story over and
41:13
over again
41:14
as he’s continued to do since i’ve
41:15
written the column his advice is going
41:18
to be about
41:18
worth worth about five cents i mean
41:21
am i wrong i mean there’s only so many
41:23
times a boy can cry wolf
41:25
and this is the problem right is that
41:27
you know when you have someone that’s
41:29
constantly shifting the goal post or as
41:31
you put it you know constantly
41:32
throwing the football out and saying oh
41:34
no next time we’ll definitely let you go
41:36
outside again or tell you that it’s safe
41:37
to go outside again or in some cases let
41:39
you go outside again
41:40
um you know it eventually reaches the
41:42
point where people shrug their shoulders
41:44
and say
41:44
i’m gonna just go back to living my life
41:47
you know i there’s
41:48
that picture of of him holding up the
41:50
thing saying 15 days to slow this bread
41:52
that was over a year ago and uh and the
41:55
reason
41:56
that was over a year ago you know
41:57
originally we were told this is again
41:59
lucy with the football
42:00
the purpose of these lockdowns we’re not
42:02
going to stop the virus we now have
42:04
community spread we’re not going to stop
42:05
it
42:05
but what we can do is avoid the disaster
42:09
that has happened in other countries
42:10
where their health care systems weren’t
42:12
ready to deal with the influx of all
42:14
these patients
42:14
so what we’re going to do is for a
42:16
roughly two week period
42:18
we’re gonna just kind of have everyone
42:19
stay home as much as possible
42:21
to help slow the spread temporarily so
42:24
that we can
42:25
deal with uh so that the hospitals and
42:27
and supply chain
42:29
can deal with the upcoming surge so that
42:32
when we
42:32
open things back up then people can go
42:35
and and you know it’ll it’ll naturally
42:37
spread and
42:38
you know we can deal with that surge and
42:40
we may occasionally if it surges too
42:42
high
42:42
have to do temporary lockdowns during
42:45
that time
42:46
they and the world health organization
42:48
and probably other organizations as well
42:50
said that long-term lockdowns don’t work
42:53
because you can’t feasibly make everyone
42:54
stay in their house for longer than two
42:56
weeks or even really just
42:57
exclusively stay in their house for two
42:59
weeks because everything would fall
43:00
apart the farms would lie
43:02
fallow the the you know power plants
43:04
would would you know shut down the the
43:06
the you know the supply chain would fall
43:08
apart you know
43:09
people would be dying of of you know uh
43:12
preventable illnesses and heart attacks
43:14
and everything else because they can’t
43:15
go anywhere so you can’t make everyone
43:16
stay home for two weeks
43:17
so you have to kind of restrict them
43:19
somewhat and and
43:21
the longer that goes on the more likely
43:22
they are to find a new routine
43:24
that results in them interacting with
43:26
just as many people as they would have
43:27
without the lockdowns
43:28
and really all you’re doing is causing
43:31
you know
43:31
devastation to small businesses you’re
43:33
causing devastation to people
43:35
uh who need to get a treatment for
43:37
addiction or
43:38
uh you know a preventable illnesses or
43:40
cancer
43:41
uh you’re you’re devastating an entire
43:43
generation of children
43:44
uh who are missing that interaction at
43:46
school um you are making
43:48
making people more and more lonely
43:50
because they’re not around as many
43:52
people and they’re more shut in
43:53
you’re feeding people’s hypochondria by
43:55
making them think that walking outside
43:57
is going to make them sick and die
43:58
all these bad things are going to happen
44:00
and they said this they said that it was
44:02
going to hurt people
44:03
and that they shouldn’t do it then they
44:04
did it and then they told everyone that
44:06
if you don’t go along with it
44:08
you were killing your grandmother and of
44:09
course now we have the benefit of the
44:10
data showing it was all garbage
44:12
but you know they told us over and over
44:15
and over again
44:16
they kept moving it it was 15 days it
44:18
was a month it was we got to you know
44:20
shut the world down until we end disease
44:22
and uh and it was very interesting to
44:24
see how that got covered
44:27
oh exactly and if you said uh if you
44:30
don’t do this you’re gonna kill your
44:31
grandmother well alabama’s
44:33
meanwhile uh governor meemaw k ivy she’s
44:35
kept us in mask and she’s going to keep
44:37
us in mask till april 5th
44:39
or april 9th one of the other i can’t
44:40
remember
44:43
and basically i think the only reason
44:44
she did that and this ties back into
44:46
corporate media
44:47
is so that when we see a spike after
44:50
spring break is over with because we’re
44:51
currently in the middle of spring break
44:53
right now
44:54
yep yep alabama’s beaches are a big
44:56
destination for
44:57
uh college and uh and high school spring
44:59
breakers
45:00
because we’re family friendly beaches
45:01
you don’t go you’re not going to come to
45:03
alabama’s beaches and see a bunch of
45:05
a bunch of lgbtq people uh prancing
45:08
around the beach
45:09
hugging and kissing each other and a
45:12
bunch of lewd con
45:14
contact even amongst people that aren’t
45:16
lgbt
45:17
because we’re family-friendly beaches
45:19
are our police
45:20
make sure that we stay uh
45:22
family-friendly beaches but
45:23
so we’re gonna and ever listen i drive
45:26
for a living so i drive the interstate
45:29
that goes towards the beaches and i can
45:30
tell you that they’re they’re
45:32
overcrowded because
45:33
they didn’t get spring break last year
45:35
so they’re trying to get it in this year
45:36
we’re going to see a spike especially in
45:39
alabama and especially in the southeast
45:41
after spring break’s over with and she
45:44
kept the mass mandate in place
45:45
through easter so that al.com left this
45:48
corporate media in this state could not
45:50
criticize her for ending the mass
45:52
mandate at the beginning of march
45:54
and then we saw a spike in a spike that
45:58
we are going to see because of spring
45:59
break
46:00
because mass mandates don’t work
46:03
exactly well they don’t work they don’t
46:05
work and even in alabama they don’t work
46:07
because they’re not enforced
46:09
we have a massive mandate but
46:12
i mean if you walk into a store or a
46:14
restaurant or anything without a mask
46:16
they’re not going to stop you and tell
46:17
you unless they just really militant
46:18
about it they’re not going to stop you
46:19
tell them to turn around and go
46:21
go back out until you get a mask they’re
46:22
just going to let you walk into what you
46:24
need to do and go i mean because where
46:27
there is no enforcement you can’t be
46:28
arrested for not wearing a mask in this
46:31
in the state of alabama
46:32
that’s why i predicted in march that she
46:34
would end the mandate
46:35
but she would change the language from
46:37
mandate to recommendation
46:38
but she just said instead of doing that
46:40
she said i’m extending the mandate
46:43
but i’m not going to extend it past the
46:44
next the next deadline
46:46
after the next deadline we’re over it’s
46:47
over and done with right right right so
46:49
it’s
46:50
it’s a cya it’s a cya everyone here
46:52
knows
46:53
that this thing doesn’t work at this
46:54
point but they’re still saying it’s that
46:56
the media doesn’t go you with your mask
46:58
mandate removal you’re
46:59
you killed all these people and it’s
47:01
like no that’s not how this works
47:03
if the mask mandates worked then
47:05
california
47:06
and washington dc and new york would
47:09
have much lower rates of spread and they
47:11
don’t it hasn’t happened it has not
47:14
happened and
47:14
it wouldn’t have had to fudge the the
47:17
death numbers and nursing homes
47:19
oh please yeah and he wouldn’t have had
47:20
to do that you wouldn’t have
47:22
just seen john kerry get caught you know
47:24
sitting in a plane with his with that
47:26
without a
47:26
a commercial plane uh in first class
47:29
refusing to
47:30
not wearing his mask and then claiming
47:32
oh uh it fell off you can see his lap
47:35
it didn’t fall off he was just sitting
47:36
there because not only does he think
47:38
he’s above the law which
47:39
he is but he also recogni if if john
47:42
kerry
47:43
and if joe biden when he went to uh when
47:46
he went to uh um
47:48
uh the lincoln memorial hours after
47:50
signing the the federal
47:52
mass mandate saying that he would have
47:53
to wear a mask there and then he didn’t
47:54
he went there with this whole family
47:56
or or uh you know governor gavin newsom
48:00
at french laundry if if they only
48:03
not only do they think that they’re
48:04
above the law but they also are
48:07
demonstrating that they know that this
48:08
is all bs
48:09
because if they actually thought that
48:11
these mandates and lockdowns
48:13
worked then they would be doing them
48:15
voluntarily to save their own lives john
48:17
kerry is not a young man
48:19
uh joe biden’s not a young man they know
48:21
that this is nonsense
48:22
i want to go to a couple con uh um uh a
48:25
couple of
48:26
john carrey story sure sure sure the
48:28
shocking part of that story isn’t that
48:29
he wasn’t wearing a mask the shocking
48:31
part of the story
48:32
was he’s flying commercial
48:35
yeah well you know why he’s flying
48:36
commercial because he gets all the flack
48:38
for
48:38
flying on his private jet when he’s the
48:40
climate czar
48:42
uh you know of the cut you know giving
48:44
us a hard time because we eat beef
48:46
or don’t all drive high bids hybrids an
48:48
area is driving
48:49
uh flying around in his own uh private
48:51
jet so here are some comments
48:52
uh elizabeth cokeyard hey elizabeth uh
48:54
says we lost a homeless vet to cancer
48:57
because of holcomb’s executive
48:58
restriction on hospital procedures
49:00
we’re holding a vigil in two weeks that
49:02
is horrifying and
49:03
it’s i wish i could say it was the first
49:05
time i heard it i’ve talked to many
49:06
people
49:07
who have cancer or who had cancer who
49:10
have not been allowed
49:11
up until recently for an entire year to
49:14
have screenings for cancer
49:16
because of the off chance that they
49:18
might catch covid
49:19
in a hospital that has explicitly said
49:22
we are able to protect
49:24
the cov the non-coveted patients from
49:26
the covet patients these are the same
49:28
state governments that were shoving as
49:29
you mentioned
49:30
shoving covet patients in nursing homes
49:33
and mental health facilities
49:34
who were saying we don’t have the
49:36
protocols in place to protect our
49:37
residents from these coveted patients
49:39
and then of course they lied to the
49:40
investigators about all the deaths that
49:42
happened as a result of it
49:43
but but now you know you can’t go and
49:45
get checked for cancer you can’t go
49:47
it’s funny you couldn’t go to an aaa
49:48
meeting because that’s non-essential
49:50
but you can go to an alcohol store or a
49:52
store that sells alcohol
49:53
i mean this was game to hurt everyday
49:55
americans um
49:56
someone else said uh um
50:00
uh uh sarah morales said a new routine i
50:02
had to file chapter 11 on my bakery
50:05
i’m so sorry i mean that this is what
50:06
they did to small businesses
50:08
the big ones got massive bailouts you
50:10
got told that you were you know a threat
50:11
to everyone
50:12
around them around you justiko mitchell
50:14
says how dumb were we to
50:15
think they meant 15 days i was for it
50:18
justinko i
50:19
uh quarantined voluntarily for roughly a
50:22
month
50:23
because we just didn’t know and i missed
50:25
a couple of libertarian events and i
50:27
told them why i said listen i was sick
50:30
and we don’t know how long it lasts
50:32
after you’re sick
50:33
uh and i don’t know that i have covid
50:36
uh i may have it and so i’m just gonna
50:38
do things remotely
50:40
until we know for certain that
50:41
everything’s okay and and you know
50:43
after a while it was obvious that
50:44
everything was going to be okay and i
50:45
resumed doing it i made a personal
50:47
choice
50:48
which was far better than any kind of
50:49
lockdown or mandate or anything else
50:51
stanley jajawi says i never stopped
50:53
working because i was essential
50:55
all of this is a joke you know there
50:57
were entire industries where people just
50:58
continued to uh
50:59
you know continue to do things as is
51:03
so i mean i was one of those i’m my
51:06
paying job the job that i’m
51:07
working until i can start making enough
51:09
money off of family news now to
51:11
support myself is i delivered uh i
51:14
deliver bread i’m a
51:15
bread delivery driver uh auto parts as
51:18
well and
51:18
uh lab specimens uh as well so it’s uh
51:22
you know i worked the entire pandemic
51:24
the all the way through
51:26
yes i lost some some revenue from some
51:28
places that had closed
51:29
uh had been forced to close down right
51:31
it wasn’t unfortunately it wasn’t a lot
51:33
but i worked straight through i was i’m
51:35
just like your
51:37
your commenter there that you know i
51:38
worked all the way through and that’s
51:40
the and because i’m in and out of
51:41
hospitals all the time
51:43
with lab specimens and bread it’s why i
51:46
volunteered before they even there was
51:48
even a mass mandate to start wearing my
51:51
mask
51:51
on a regular basis because i’m going
51:54
into out of these hospitals
51:55
i don’t want to bring coronavirus in if
51:58
i catch it
51:59
that’s why i’m on saturday getting my
52:01
second dose of the modern vaccine
52:03
because i’m in and out of these
52:04
hospitals all the time it makes sense
52:06
for me
52:06
and i made the personal choice to get
52:08
the vaccine for that very reason
52:10
nobody made me get the vaccine i just
52:13
chose to do so
52:14
because of the fact that i realize i’m
52:17
going into high risk
52:18
high risk buildings and high risk
52:20
situations so it’s better for me to
52:23
to do what i need to do to mitigate my
52:25
chances of not only catching the
52:26
coronavirus
52:27
but bringing it into those high risk
52:29
situations exactly you made a personal
52:32
choice based on your desire to
52:35
mitigate risk to yourself and others and
52:37
and if
52:38
someone agrees uh uh oh i’m glad i said
52:41
your name right stanley i was worried
52:42
about that
52:43
if someone agrees with you they disagree
52:45
with you that’s perfectly fine you made
52:46
a personal choice
52:47
you didn’t try to turn around and tell
52:49
someone else you have to do this too and
52:51
if you don’t do it you’re killing my
52:52
grandma and all that nonsense
52:53
uh you just made a personal choice like
52:55
i did i remember when i was making the
52:57
videos and there were people saying
52:58
why are you saying you’re against
53:00
lockdowns when you’re quarantining and i
53:02
said because i’m
53:03
choosing to do that i’m choosing to do
53:05
that and i’m also in a position
53:06
i’m retired i don’t have to go work
53:11
my life was not substantively changed
53:12
during that time my wife went grocery
53:14
shopping instead of me during that time
53:16
a couple times i went to the beach when
53:18
there was no one else out there
53:19
but for the most part my life wasn’t
53:21
substantively changed i was in a
53:23
position to be able to make that choice
53:25
and so i did it and it didn’t affect me
53:27
you can’t impose that choice
53:29
on people who are non-essential who have
53:31
to who are essential to their households
53:33
to be able to make an income
53:35
in order to be able to uh to be able to
53:37
provide for their families and
53:39
it’s just and a quarantine is isolating
53:42
sick people a lockdown is controlling
53:46
the population
53:47
thank you yeah that’s you’re
53:49
quarantining
53:50
healthy people yeah you’re quarantining
53:52
the vast majority of people
53:53
who are healthy and especially once we
53:55
knew because again
53:56
early on you know in some countries the
53:59
fatality rate was as high as
54:01
eight nine ten percent that’s def like
54:02
that’s scary that’s a scary scary thing
54:05
that’s something like
54:06
30 times as many people dying as what
54:08
we’re seeing right now that’s millions
54:09
of americans dead
54:10
that’s a scary thing so you know in
54:12
march i’m like hey i’m going to take
54:13
this thing easy just in case
54:15
as the data started coming out into into
54:18
march and april and may
54:19
showing that the fatality rate of this
54:21
thing it was anywhere from
54:23
you know so it’s it was several times
54:25
more deadly than the flu but it wasn’t
54:27
the movie contagion where one out of
54:29
every
54:29
five or ten people was going to drop
54:31
dead of it and it was largely going to
54:33
affect people that were older and had
54:34
co-morbidities or people that were
54:36
morbidly obese
54:37
um uh and that that the reason that the
54:40
fatality rate was so high to begin with
54:41
was because they were shoving
54:43
patients in into nursing homes with the
54:45
people that are the most likely to die
54:46
from it
54:47
um and as we saw that and that it wasn’t
54:49
truly airborne
54:50
which interestingly enough when they
54:52
said it’s airborne so we have to do a
54:54
lockdown
54:55
if it’s airborne the lockdown’s not
54:57
going to do anything
54:58
you can catch the cold in your house not
55:01
going outside
55:02
because the cold viruses or most of the
55:05
cold viruses the rhinoviruses and
55:06
coronaviruses that are the coal virus
55:08
they
55:08
freely float around with just enough of
55:10
a load for if
55:11
for you to catch it through your your
55:13
freaking ac vent so
55:15
unless we all had hepa filters on every
55:17
register coming into the house and all
55:19
of our windows were airtight
55:21
there’s no way to stop a truly airborne
55:23
virus from spreading might as well go
55:24
outside and go live your life because
55:25
you’re going to catch it anyway
55:26
the the so-called science behind this
55:29
was absolutely absurd but i mean we can
55:30
go ad nauseam into this
55:32
i want to shift quite a bit uh into
55:34
something else that government does to
55:36
impose itself on the people
55:37
uh who have done nothing wrong or
55:39
haven’t been acute or and often haven’t
55:40
even been accused
55:42
of doing anything wrong we actually
55:43
talked about this on my last episode
55:45
with the
55:45
with josh and justin with uh for all
55:48
tennessee and that’s the subject of
55:50
civil asset forfeiture and i’m you’ve
55:52
you’ve actually been
55:54
uh you’ve been covering this somewhat um
55:56
tell us about uh
55:58
this has been a hot button issue in
55:59
alabama tell us a little bit about
56:01
what civil asset forfeiture is and tell
56:02
us about what’s happening in alabama
56:04
with that subject
56:05
okay simple asset forfeiture at least
56:07
here in alabama i may not be completely
56:09
familiar it may be slightly different in
56:10
different states but
56:11
here in alabama if you
56:15
are suspected of criminal activity but
56:18
the police cannot prove
56:20
that you are uh you participated in that
56:23
uh
56:24
that criminal activity and you profited
56:26
from that uh
56:27
that criminal activity they can do
56:29
what’s called civil asset forfeiture
56:30
where they can go
56:31
and to a court and ask the court to
56:34
basically force you to turn over their
56:37
your property to them because they think
56:39
you committed a crime
56:41
and profited from it example of uh
56:45
a perfect example of how how ludicrous
56:48
that is
56:48
right here in mobile alabama where i sit
56:51
uh
56:52
before the pandemic started we were
56:55
having a controversy with tow trucks
56:57
and the uh the the record
57:00
list for whenever you get in a rec car a
57:02
car accident
57:03
and police respond to respond to the car
57:05
accident there’s a list of
57:06
towing companies that they basically go
57:08
down the list and they call
57:10
the you know and you know call you when
57:12
it’s your turn and you come back and
57:13
pick up a vehicle
57:14
well the the the ordinance that uh that
57:17
established that
57:19
set out the uh set up the the fine and
57:22
fee structure
57:23
for that well there’s to make a long
57:26
story short
57:27
there’s some back and there was some
57:29
back and forth and there’s some legal
57:30
opinions about what is a
57:31
consensual which cannot be regulated by
57:35
state or local
57:36
uh ordinance and what is a
57:38
non-consensual toe
57:40
which can be regulated by the state and
57:42
local or
57:43
ordinance and it went back and forth and
57:44
back and forth
57:46
one of the tow companies that really
57:48
challenged the
57:50
really challenged the police on this
57:52
matter ended up getting charged the
57:54
owners ended up getting charged with
57:56
multiple counts of fraud because they
57:59
because they were over charging
58:02
insurance companies and customers
58:03
from what the ordinance said that they
58:04
could charge oh okay the
58:06
tell companies uh the tow companies said
58:08
well it’s a consensual tow we can charge
58:11
whatever fees you know and there were
58:13
some other things well i knew after the
58:15
the fraud charges which were dubious at
58:17
best because i saw the
58:18
uh the arrest warrant applications and
58:20
uh
58:21
and for for the for the charges the the
58:24
charges are dubious
58:26
so dubious that a district court judge
58:28
and a circuit court just said
58:30
most likely that the prosecution will
58:32
fail in uh
58:34
when it goes to trial two judges that
58:36
will probably
58:37
uh probably fail that didn’t stop the
58:40
police from
58:40
uh trying to seize their tow trucks
58:44
both judges said they’re probably going
58:46
to fail they get their tow trucks
58:48
i’m not granting you the civil asset
58:50
forfeiture or better yet it was a
58:52
uh a temporary injunction
58:56
forcing them to return the tow trucks to
58:58
the company so that the con
58:59
tow company continued to be in business
59:02
and operate and make money
59:03
to pay for their defense so like i said
59:07
dubious charges
59:08
not been convicted of anything they
59:09
haven’t even gone to trial yet uh
59:11
they’re supposed scheduled to go to
59:12
trial in june
59:13
but the the the police tried to go after
59:16
their tow trucks
59:17
because of that and there’s multiple
59:19
stories of
59:21
that throughout the state of alabama
59:22
there’s one small town north of here
59:24
that basically
59:26
had the lowest police officer to citizen
59:31
ratio uh in their city
59:34
because they had like something like 15
59:36
cops in a town of like 2 000 people
59:38
okay because and the police department
59:40
was funded by civil asset forfeitures
59:43
and right
59:43
seizure people’s vehicles that were
59:45
speeding through their town
59:46
so it’s always been a problem in this
59:49
state
59:50
and there’s been multiple attempts to
59:52
try to reform it
59:54
but a new freshman legislator out of
59:57
north alabama
59:58
his name is andrew sorelle out of
60:00
district three props uh representative
60:02
sorel
60:03
actually filed a bill in this
60:04
legislative session to repeal
60:07
civil asset forfeiture and not only
60:08
repeal it but prevent police departments
60:11
in the state of alabama
60:12
from circumventing that ban by
60:14
participating at the federal
60:16
civil asset forfeiture nice okay good
60:18
good good
60:20
because that’s a big part of it there
60:21
are many times that they ban
60:23
civil asset forfeiture meaning in state
60:25
but then they’re still allowed to
60:26
participate in the federal program
60:27
making it absurd they just have the fed
60:29
sees it and then they get it anyway go
60:30
ahead yeah so that bill
60:33
last week passed out of committee with a
60:35
favorable recommendation
60:37
and is now is now on the uh
60:40
the agenda for the full house of
60:41
representatives i doubt it will pass
60:44
i’m skeptical because even efforts to
60:46
reform the uh reform civil asset
60:48
forfeiture
60:49
have failed in the state because it’s
60:50
run into resistance from
60:52
law enforcement associations
60:55
like the sheriff’s organization the
60:57
organization of police chiefs
60:58
because that’s how they if they don’t
61:00
fund their departments that way
61:02
that’s how they bring in extra funding
61:04
to do stuff like
61:05
for example uh our sheriff’s department
61:08
here in mobile county
61:09
they do they buy extra protective
61:11
equipment like
61:12
bulletproof vest or ammunition for the
61:15
uh
61:15
for the firing range to stay proficient
61:17
and that’s the
61:19
they fund that through civil asset
61:20
forfeiture funds well
61:23
civil asset forfeiture by definition
61:26
is not criminal asset forfeiture which
61:29
you know it would be perfectly okay with
61:31
me even as a libertarian
61:32
if you’re convicted of a crime yeah the
61:36
police wanted to go after your property
61:37
that you
61:38
that you’ve profited from that crime i’m
61:41
all for that because you committed a
61:42
crime you were found guilty
61:44
in a court of law of that crime but if
61:47
you are not convicted of a crime
61:49
uh you shouldn’t the police shouldn’t be
61:52
able to uh
61:52
just willy-nilly take your property and
61:55
then force you to prove that you didn’t
61:56
commit a crime
61:58
and pay thousands of dollars sometimes
62:00
uh three
62:01
three four five ten times the amount of
62:03
what the property is actually worth
62:05
and see that’s where they run into
62:06
that’s where they how they get you
62:08
is they basically make you prove that
62:11
you’re innocent
62:12
and you have to spend money with lawyers
62:14
fighting in court fine lawsuits
62:16
and you usually win if you actually
62:18
challenge it in court but i mean
62:20
you’re out the money for the uh for the
62:23
for your legal fees you get your
62:25
property back but you’re out of the
62:27
legal fees because the pro because the
62:28
police know they’re not gonna have to
62:30
pay your legal fees
62:31
so i’ve actually been talking to several
62:34
state legislators here in alabama
62:36
that are friends of mine and i’m like uh
62:39
i’m like
62:39
well why don’t we try this one reform
62:42
simple reform
62:44
that uh that other states are trying
62:46
with a
62:47
tort reform which would
62:51
vastly improve the situation with civil
62:54
asset forfeiture and that is
62:55
automatic loser pace if a
62:58
police police department or sheriff’s
63:01
department seizes your property
63:03
you challenge that seizure in a court of
63:05
law and you win
63:07
not only do you get your property back
63:10
but now
63:10
if under automatic loser pays the law
63:13
enforcement organization
63:14
has to pay you pay your longer lawyer
63:17
fees right
63:17
you know what would happen with if if
63:19
you had that
63:21
you’d have lawyers that would take many
63:23
more of these cases on contingency
63:25
yeah because they would review the the
63:27
facts they would know that it would be a
63:28
good case to take because it would most
63:30
likely win
63:31
and the state would have to pay for
63:33
their for their their costs as a result
63:35
of it yeah
63:35
exactly plus it would force law
63:37
enforcement organizations to set up a
63:39
pro
63:39
an administrative process that would be
63:42
much cheaper for the property owners
63:44
to go through to get their property back
63:46
without actually having to go to court
63:47
and hiring a lawyer because the law
63:49
because
63:50
because the sheriff’s department or the
63:53
law enforcement organization
63:54
knows that if they if you go to court
63:56
and they lose
63:58
that they have to pay your legal fees
64:00
and they’re not they don’t have the
64:01
budgets for that
64:02
yeah exactly and and the thing is
64:04
obviously the best way to go about it is
64:05
just
64:06
end it you know someone mentioned uh uh
64:08
i think it was stanley jajari who said
64:10
you know that that some you know most
64:13
crimes on the books right now
64:14
are unconstitutional victimless crimes
64:17
uh so
64:17
absent that let’s say we remove the
64:19
victimless crimes now you’re only being
64:21
charged
64:21
for you know actual you know violent
64:24
offenses
64:24
and and you know theft and and not just
64:27
violent but crimes that have victims
64:29
theft fraud rape
64:30
murder kidnapping that so forth and if
64:32
they are after you’ve been convicted
64:34
they’re able to demonstrate that you
64:36
profited x amount from that
64:38
and then they seize based on that amount
64:40
that’s and you still have a process by
64:42
which you you can still
64:44
appeal that or whatever then that makes
64:46
sense but to
64:47
process because how civil asset
64:49
forfeiture is used in the two main ways
64:52
is they go in they accuse you of
64:53
something they seize all of your
64:55
property so you can’t effectively defend
64:56
yourself that forces you to plea it down
64:59
because you don’t have the money to
65:00
defend yourself uh and then
65:02
now you lose everything because you
65:04
can’t effectively then
65:06
go and and go to court and say that you
65:08
you should have your stuff because you
65:10
basically pled guilty uh to something
65:12
else uh or if by some miracle even
65:14
without any of your money you’re still
65:15
able to get found not guilty you then
65:17
still have to go to court
65:19
and pay money to prove that they should
65:20
give you the stuff back even though it
65:22
was just proven in court
65:23
uh uh uh beyond a reasonable doubt that
65:26
you shouldn’t have had it taken from you
65:27
in the first place
65:28
that’s the first way that it’s used the
65:30
second way it’s used is they often just
65:31
go in and i see this all the time i’ve
65:32
heard so many stories
65:33
the police come in uh they accuse you of
65:36
operating a business without a license
65:37
or they accuse you of
65:39
you know some some lesser crime uh and
65:41
they seize all your money
65:42
and they say have a great day and and
65:45
the reason they do that is because they
65:46
know that
65:47
you know you’re not gonna take them to
65:48
court over the you know the car that
65:50
they stole from you because it’ll cost
65:52
you more than the car
65:53
or the few hundred bucks or a few
65:54
thousand bucks they stole from you so
65:55
they just straight up
65:56
rob people it’s a protection racket that
65:58
they use so it’s just like that towing
66:00
company situation i mentioned
66:01
you know they basically took their way
66:03
their way of making a living they took
66:05
their trucks
66:06
from them and they uh and they said the
66:08
reason why they wanted to seize the
66:10
trucks is because they were the
66:11
instruments of the fraud
66:13
well both of the the judges that i
66:15
mentioned uh previously
66:16
basically said are were the trucks the
66:18
instrument of the fraud
66:20
or was the invoice submitted to the
66:22
insurance company or the
66:23
uh the car owners the instruments of the
66:25
fraud
66:26
right right like i said two judges
66:29
basically told the prosecutors
66:31
you’re probably going to lose this case
66:34
and they still
66:34
they still tried to seize the seize the
66:36
property to the point it actually went
66:38
the the
66:39
prosecution actually appealed to the
66:40
alabama supreme court the supreme court
66:43
reversed the tro
66:44
they didn’t say that the uh that the the
66:47
civil asset forfeiture was
66:48
was was right or valid they just said
66:51
that the
66:52
courts did not have the authority under
66:54
the law
66:55
to issue the temporary restraining order
66:57
so the lower editable
66:59
now the police haven’t tried to go
67:01
collect those trucks again after that
67:03
ruling
67:04
thankfully but legally they probably
67:06
could if they
67:07
would be in the right if they really
67:08
wanted to try yeah the only way to stop
67:11
this
67:12
is to end at least at the state level
67:14
and really at the federal level
67:16
end this program there’s actually
67:18
studies at least for the past few years
67:20
if you take all of the private sector
67:22
burglary
67:24
and compare it to the civil asset
67:26
forfeiture the civil asset forfeiture
67:28
dwarfs private sector burglary the
67:30
government is the
67:32
biggest where and i mean obviously
67:33
taxation is also theft and extortion
67:36
but if we talk about just going in
67:38
straight up taking people’s stuff from
67:39
them
67:40
like that not even including taxation
67:42
the federal and state governments are
67:44
easily the biggest thieves in the
67:47
country and in their respective states
67:49
as well
67:49
uh it is a terrible terrible thing and
67:52
we should be absolutely ending it
67:54
uh here’s a comment from uh sarah
67:56
morales she says you know how much time
67:58
do you think it takes for them to get
68:00
a proper warrant to seize it versus how
68:02
much time it takes to climb hills
68:04
and prove your your innocence that’s
68:06
disgusting can you tell us a little bit
68:07
about why it’s civil
68:09
and you know because we hear civil asset
68:11
forfeiture and we think well that’s not
68:12
very civil to take something from
68:14
why it’s civil as opposed to criminal
68:16
why they’re going through that route
68:19
because the burden of proof is lower the
68:21
on a civil asset forfeiture it is a much
68:23
lower burden of proof
68:24
to to get a judge to sign off on a on a
68:27
forfeiture than it is for a criminal
68:29
because obviously if you’re doing a
68:30
criminal asset forfeiture you have to
68:33
prove that a crime
68:34
was committed and that the property in
68:37
question was either
68:38
utilized in the crime or was a result of
68:42
the profit of that crime
68:43
to be able to seize that property on a
68:45
criminal asset forfeiture
68:47
statutes with a civil asset forfeiture
68:50
you basically have to uh you basically
68:53
have to say
68:54
your honor there’s a preponderance of
68:56
the evidence that
68:57
this person committed a crime we can’t
68:59
prove that he actually did
69:01
but there’s a preponderance of it you
69:03
know his his criminal
69:05
suggest certainly suggests that he he or
69:06
she is
69:08
uh is committing a crime so we think he
69:11
committed a crime
69:12
we would like his property and oh and
69:14
what happens is a lot of times
69:16
like you just said with the car they
69:18
seize property that is
69:20
less than the value of what it would
69:21
take to get it back and
69:23
yeah every most the vast majority of the
69:27
the common sense everyday americans
69:30
going to say you know what
69:31
it’s not worth fighting them over that
69:33
property i’m just going to let them have
69:34
it and i’ll just go buy it
69:36
buy another one yeah exactly exactly
69:40
especially if they’re engaged especially
69:42
if they’re engaged in a criminal
69:43
enterprise they’re like you know what
69:44
just take it i’ll just buy another one
69:45
i’ll just continue doing my criminal
69:47
enterprise yeah and real quickly back to
69:49
the
69:49
the law that passed out of committee i’m
69:51
actually currently trying to work on
69:53
getting
69:53
representative andrew sorrell on my bama
69:56
news now podcast which you can find on
69:58
most major podcasting platforms
70:01
so i’ll let you know if i’m actually
70:02
successful in getting them on and
70:04
talking about it when i get that
70:05
episode uploaded i’ll let you know so
70:07
you can let your listeners know that
70:08
it’s
70:09
why he did it what his motivation was
70:11
and and hopefully what he thinks
70:13
will be the chances of success because
70:15
like i said he’s going to go up against
70:18
all some very powerful lobbies in this
70:20
state
70:21
with the sheriff’s organ association the
70:23
police chiefs associations because like
70:25
i said
70:26
they profit handsomely from not
70:28
personally i’m not trying to say that
70:30
they’re doing this per you know to make
70:31
money personally but
70:32
they their departments like i said with
70:34
the sheriff’s department they’ve uh
70:36
they buy their uh practice ammunition uh
70:39
for the firing range with their civil
70:40
asset forfeiture
70:41
money yup that’s why they have the
70:44
newest cars it’s why they have the
70:46
newest equipment it’s why they have the
70:47
newest anything
70:48
and we’re all sitting here going do you
70:50
really need a
70:51
brand new car every year or two like
70:54
this is the
70:55
the criminal enterprise has become so
70:57
advanced that you need to have they’re
70:58
they’re spending big big big money
71:01
because they can
71:02
and they’re essentially robbing it from
71:04
us they’re taking it yes they’re robbing
71:05
us the old-fashioned way through sales
71:07
taxes property taxes and
71:08
and so forth and bonds and everything
71:10
else but they’re also just straight up
71:13
you know stealing it yeah they’re just
71:16
like burglaring people like
71:17
it’s incredible and i’m glad that you
71:19
that you talked about the burden of
71:20
proof
71:21
there’s the in a criminal proceeding
71:23
it’s
71:24
they’d have to prove it beyond a
71:25
reasonable doubt uh whereas in a civil
71:27
proceeding
71:28
uh it’s based on a preponderance of the
71:30
evidence as you said
71:32
and without getting too much into the
71:33
weeds of what the differences are
71:36
beyond a reasonable doubt means it has
71:38
to be pretty much
71:40
certain that they did it there can’t be
71:41
any real uh
71:43
even shadow of a possibility that they
71:45
didn’t do it or you should be voting not
71:47
guilty
71:47
uh or that they haven’t been proven
71:49
guilty right preponderance of the
71:51
evidence is
71:52
there’s a pretty good chance it’s a 51
71:55
chance uh that that they were using it’s
71:58
just a completely different standard
72:00
and it’s that standard on every aspect
72:02
of the case not just whether they did it
72:03
or not but whether or not evidence
72:05
should be submittable
72:06
it’s just there’s so much it is
72:08
exponentially easier
72:10
to have so o.j simpson he was found not
72:12
guilty uh in court of murder but he was
72:15
found
72:15
uh to be responsible for their deaths
72:18
being sued that is the difference
72:19
between
72:20
reasonable doubt and preponderance of
72:22
the evidence we see it time and time
72:23
again
72:23
you have the government suing you for
72:25
your own stuff without you even being
72:26
convicted of a crime
72:27
it’s an absolutely disgusting thing well
72:30
so
72:30
i here’s a good correlation to for as an
72:34
example for your
72:35
for your listeners and it’s this if
72:37
you’re arrested
72:39
there’s a preponderance of evidence that
72:41
you’re guilty doesn’t mean you if you’re
72:42
arrested
72:43
or uh or better yet here’s an
72:47
even better one if you get a speeding
72:49
ticket there’s a sp the speeding ticket
72:50
says there’s a preponderance of
72:52
evidence that you were speeding that you
72:53
were breaking the law if you can test
72:55
that speeding ticket in court
72:57
of a court of law and you can bring in
73:00
your your gps your dash cam or whatever
73:02
to prove that you weren’t speeding
73:03
well guess what you’re not guilty but
73:06
the that doesn’t mean that there wasn’t
73:08
a preponderance of evidence that the
73:10
the the police officer that pulled you
73:11
over that that gunned you with this
73:14
radar gun
73:15
to give you that ticket in the first
73:16
place yeah yeah that’s the difference
73:18
between
73:19
preponderance and beyond a reasonable
73:21
doubt it’s the
73:22
exactly it’s the difference between
73:24
enough for them to arrest you
73:25
or to detain you uh as opposed to to
73:28
actually convict you and sentence you
73:29
that’s a that’s a perfect example yeah
73:31
and so it’s like if i can arrest you
73:32
then i already have enough uh to rob you
73:35
too
73:36
of your ability to be able to defend
73:37
yourself it’s just it’s a disgusting
73:39
thing so
73:39
uh david i i want to kind of close out
73:41
on talking about this
73:42
this independent media stuff and and
73:44
give you some last thoughts but i
73:46
give you a chance to give your last
73:47
thoughts but first i just i just want to
73:49
ask you
73:50
what is your vision so when we see
73:54
um uh we got a donation
73:57
and uh and a five dollar uh five dollar
74:00
donation and also a comment from uh joe
74:02
makes drifts
74:02
who says why does my small town in
74:04
michigan have
74:06
two humvees and that’s a perfect example
74:08
like you know
74:09
it probably probably because of you
74:11
either civil asset forfeiture or the
74:13
military
74:14
surplus program that were both uh or
74:17
some combination of those
74:19
but talking about media we sort of
74:22
touched on this before
74:23
but you know in your in your mind’s eye
74:26
if you if i were to ask you which i am
74:28
uh how where you see
74:30
media in general being let’s say 10
74:33
years from now
74:34
compared to now what do you think the
74:36
major
74:37
differences are in how media generally
74:40
speaking whether we’re talking about
74:41
corporate media social media
74:42
independent media and everything in
74:44
between just the general face of media
74:46
what do you think the major differences
74:47
are going to be
74:49
let’s say 10 years from now so 2031 what
74:51
does that look like
74:53
a vast majority of the american people
74:57
will get their will get either all
75:00
or a vast majority of their news from
75:05
independent media and the reason why i
75:07
say that is
75:08
is two reasons first of all corporate
75:12
corporate media is going downhill
75:13
they’re losing ratings they’re losing
75:15
readership which means they’ll lose
75:16
advertising
75:18
but they’re uh but there’s on top of
75:20
that
75:21
not only are they losing readers and
75:23
viewers because
75:25
of the way they cover things they’re
75:27
losing reviewers
75:28
because people are turning off the you
75:30
know canceling their cable subscriptions
75:33
they’re not uh they’re just they’re
75:35
going to online streaming they’re going
75:37
to youtube they’re going to netflix
75:38
they’re
75:38
they’re going to the all these different
75:40
streaming platforms now
75:42
right that’s why you see so many content
75:44
creators like cbs and nbc and abc
75:47
trying to get in on the streaming game
75:48
because they can move their
75:50
content to where the the where the
75:53
customers are going
75:54
but also be because you saw what
75:58
had the the outrage that happened when
76:00
social media basically
76:02
shut down donald trump with banning him
76:05
from facebook and twitter
76:06
which are the dominant uh the dominant
76:08
social media platforms right now
76:10
that uh and you saw people
76:14
in droves moving to parliament or at
76:15
least also joining parlor as well as the
76:18
other two
76:18
well look what they did the parlor when
76:20
uh when that started happening
76:22
basically mark zuckerberg and jack
76:24
dorsey called their buddy
76:25
uh jeff bezos up and said hey shut him
76:28
down
76:29
i think and he did you know because uh
76:31
because they
76:32
uh because they felt threatened
76:35
their duopoly was threatened by parlor
76:38
because
76:39
so many conservatives had gotten fed up
76:42
with
76:42
the the misinformation the fact checking
76:45
and we can get into
76:46
fact checking if you want uh but on
76:49
social media
76:50
that that was either the fact checking
76:53
was wrong
76:54
the misleading was uh the misleading
76:57
character the labeling was misleading or
77:01
what they were labeling or fact checking
77:03
was never intended to actually
77:05
be an actual news article like for
77:07
example i got banned for 24 hours from
77:10
facebook on election day
77:11
you know why i
77:14
got banned from the face for 24 hours
77:18
because
77:18
i had the audacity to post a sarcastic
77:22
joking post that uh that if you are a
77:25
republican
77:26
to today’s election day go out and vote
77:28
it has been decreed because of the
77:30
threat of violence that if you’re a
77:31
democrat you go vote on wednesday
77:33
right i even put in the post in
77:36
parentheses dear facebook
77:37
this is obviously sarcasm not intended
77:40
for anybody to take seriously
77:43
yeah that post got me banned for 24
77:45
hours from facebook
77:47
yeah yeah never intended to be taken
77:48
seriously never it was not intended to
77:50
be real news i wasn’t
77:52
breaking news as a journal system on my
77:54
personal facebook page
77:55
still got banned for 24 hours because of
77:57
it i got a
77:59
oh go go ahead okay how’s this going to
78:01
say that and it’s stuff
78:02
and and multiple people even if you’re
78:05
not a well-known conservative
78:06
multiple people had that happen to them
78:08
and they got fed up with it and they
78:09
said you know what
78:10
you don’t want me at your party i’ll go
78:13
for my own party
78:14
at parlor and they saw that as a threat
78:16
so they had to shut it down
78:18
yeah i recently came off of a three-day
78:20
ban for posting something that went
78:22
against community standards
78:23
they never told me what it was and there
78:25
was no way for me to appeal it and i
78:26
don’t know what it was but i’m very
78:28
sorry i have no idea what happened
78:30
but uh also uh about a month or so ago a
78:33
couple months ago
78:34
um we had uh i john brennan the former
78:37
cia director
78:38
announced that he believes that the the
78:40
from what he’s heard the biden
78:42
administration is going to be going
78:43
after
78:44
among other people libertarians uh as
78:47
domestic extremists and terrorists
78:49
and so i jokingly wrote well you know a
78:50
silver lining of the biden
78:52
administration labeling
78:53
uh libertarians as domestic terrorists
78:55
uh is that their
78:56
cia will start giving us guns and
78:58
weapons and training and uh
79:00
and you know trucks and stuff like that
79:02
and uh and it was funny it was taken as
79:03
a joke it got
79:04
uh tens of thousands of reactions across
79:06
social media all
79:07
99 of them were people that were
79:10
laughing and joking it was all laugh
79:12
reacts on facebook
79:13
and i got fact checked twice the first
79:16
fact check
79:16
the people said uh you know oh uh this
79:19
is
79:19
false it’s well they said it was
79:21
partially false it was false because joe
79:23
biden
79:24
uh never said that even though when they
79:26
asked me about it i said this was an
79:27
obvious joke i was not saying it uh that
79:30
he was actually doing this i was joking
79:33
but it was only partially false because
79:34
the cia does give weapons to terrorists
79:36
i like that part
79:37
i felt like that was a partial victory
79:39
for me uh and then the second fact check
79:41
they actually realized
79:42
that it was a joke when i told them it
79:44
was a joke and that i was joking and so
79:45
they labeled it satire
79:47
um and it was like is this really what
79:49
we need like we’re grown adults here
79:51
um it’s just it’s it’s amazing to me i
79:54
want to add an aspect to why
79:56
parlor got got rooted routed the way it
79:58
did
79:59
it wasn’t just you know big tech we we
80:02
blame big tech a lot the same way that
80:04
with this
80:04
game stock thing that happens we blamed
80:07
uh robin hood app
80:09
what we didn’t know and we found out
80:11
later with the robin hood app
80:12
and what we did know with social media
80:14
is that there’s threats from government
80:16
some of them are veiled some of them are
80:17
not so veiled uh you’ll remember that uh
80:20
in the
80:20
in the the period after the capitol hill
80:23
riots on the sixth
80:25
uh um uh mark zuckerberg said to
80:28
media he said you know i i don’t we’re
80:31
not going to crack down
80:32
on on you know dissident political
80:35
content
80:36
uh as long as it’s not you know hate
80:37
speech or whatever uh we don’t think
80:39
that that’s a problem well then here
80:40
came all the corporate media hit pieces
80:42
saying that mark zuckerberg’s
80:43
platform was the biggest single platform
80:45
that was platforming
80:47
uh you know so that was platforming uh
80:49
uh you know uh the the capitol hill
80:51
insurrectionists and and and rioters and
80:53
that you know they were basically
80:54
engaging in trees and so forth and then
80:56
here came the threats of congressional
80:58
hearings
80:58
and here came the threats of potentially
81:00
repealing section 230 which would
81:02
basically end social media as we see it
81:04
um well uh
81:08
yeah i mean we could talk about that
81:09
section 230 is why social media exists
81:11
if you if you tell social media they
81:12
have to be
81:13
held legally responsible for everything
81:15
that happens on social media they’re not
81:16
going to let you do anything on social
81:18
media
81:18
really what will happen is all social
81:19
media outfits will end up joining going
81:21
to other countries where they’re not
81:22
uh subject to section to well that’s the
81:25
thing with social media
81:26
and another reason why so many
81:28
conservatives are fleeing the big
81:30
the big guys like twitter and facebook
81:32
is because yes
81:33
they do have a certain set of standards
81:36
that you agree that you’re going to
81:37
follow when you join their platforms
81:39
they’re
81:39
private platforms they can they can have
81:42
those standards if they want
81:43
that’s fine the problem is they don’t
81:46
enforce those standards
81:47
equally amongst all different political
81:49
points of view because there’s a
81:51
bunch of liberals and socialists and
81:54
communists frankly
81:55
that are on social media they’re saying
81:57
violent hateful things about
81:59
the trumps melania trump the some of the
82:01
things that were said about melania
82:02
trump were just
82:03
flat out disgusting but they were
82:05
allowed to stay on the social media
82:07
platform because
82:08
they conformed to the view that the
82:11
liberal
82:12
corporatist liberals liked and abided by
82:14
and had
82:15
so they they didn’t find them offensive
82:17
they didn’t remove them but whenever a
82:18
conservative says anything that they
82:20
remotely disagree with they’re going to
82:22
label it they’re
82:23
as misleading they’re going to fact
82:25
check it or they’re just going to
82:26
outright take it down and say it was a
82:28
violation of their community standards
82:30
and the and the reason why i think 230
82:33
needs to be repealed is because
82:35
it’s because even with even with
82:37
independent media people searching it
82:39
out
82:40
the biggest source of uh traffic for
82:43
independent media is still social media
82:45
and if uh with that power they have the
82:48
ability to shut down any individual
82:51
in an independent media outlet out there
82:53
they want to shut down
82:54
if they don’t want to enforce their
82:56
rules equally repealing 230
82:59
would basically allow the courts
83:01
somebody to go to the course and say
83:04
they’re not enforcing the the rules
83:06
across the board
83:07
and because of that that’s an anti-trust
83:09
violation
83:10
and they need to be held accountable for
83:12
that basically
83:13
what i’m asking for i don’t i’m sure
83:15
others are asking for more but what i’m
83:17
asking for
83:17
is just apply the rules equally if
83:19
you’re going to be strict on
83:20
conservatives be strict on liberals
83:21
if you’re not going to be strict on
83:23
liberals don’t be strict on
83:24
conservatives because
83:25
the uh this social media really is the
83:29
new town square it’s where everybody can
83:30
get together and hear different points
83:32
of view
83:32
and if you’re going to start silencing
83:34
different points
83:35
a certain point of view because you
83:37
don’t agree with them or you think they
83:38
may be hateful
83:40
but not do the same thing for this group
83:42
over here because
83:43
you don’t think they’re hateful well
83:45
then that’s uh you’re not applying the
83:47
rules equally you need to have balance
83:49
in the enforcement of those roles
83:50
basically when you can’t get uh donald
83:53
trump uh
83:54
opinion from donald trump on twitter or
83:56
facebook but you can get child
83:58
pornography
83:58
on twitter or facebook you have a
84:00
problem yeah and i i agree that they’re
84:02
new oh
84:03
i lost you i i agree that there needs to
84:05
be that there needs to be more uh
84:07
even enforcement especially on the on
84:08
the big tech platforms i will push back
84:10
on the section 230 thing though because
84:12
it wouldn’t just open up antitrust uh
84:14
which is arguable it could be open even
84:16
now
84:16
uh it also opens up that if for example
84:19
uh someone uh
84:20
posts something that’s illegal facebook
84:22
would be held every bit as responsible
84:24
as the person posting that
84:25
uh if someone posts something that’s
84:27
defamatory and they get sued for it
84:29
facebook would be held every bit as much
84:30
responsible for that what that would
84:32
eventually lead to
84:33
is if it well if they were to remain
84:36
here in the u.s
84:37
that would lead to them so heavily
84:39
censoring everything that’s put on
84:41
social media
84:42
that you couldn’t effectively use it it
84:44
would effectively stifle free
84:46
speech on the internet and social media
84:48
not just social media but all platforms
84:50
what it would really do is it would
84:51
actually move the internet outside of
84:53
the us jurisdiction
84:54
so that they wouldn’t be beholden to
84:56
that type of thing it would be
84:57
devastating so i i really
84:59
you know i do want to say section 230 is
85:01
not the answer the answer is
85:03
to deregulate business and the internet
85:06
as much as possible
85:08
so that smaller more disruptive upstarts
85:11
can get involved in the social media
85:13
realm and the internet realm
85:15
without having to rely on these big
85:16
players that already have entrenched
85:18
market share
85:19
thanks to the regulatory structure
85:20
that’s in place and also for
85:22
us to put politicians in office who
85:24
don’t put regulators in place
85:26
who actively threaten people who allow
85:28
for free speech on their platforms
85:29
a lot of this is happening from this is
85:32
a lot of uh
85:33
uh tail wagging the dog where you have
85:35
government
85:36
telling these platforms like they did
85:38
with mark zuckerberg in the wake of the
85:39
the capitol hill riots
85:41
and through corporate media you have to
85:43
censor this because it was after the
85:45
threats
85:45
that then zuckerberg went from saying
85:47
we’re not going to restrict any more
85:48
than we already are
85:49
to say well actually you know what i
85:51
think there just needs to be less
85:52
political opinion
85:54
and and we’ve seen it in libertarian and
85:55
conservative platforms even some of the
85:57
far left wing platforms
85:59
uh have also been affected we’re seeing
86:01
that unless you are in this sort of
86:02
center to center left
86:04
uh you know uh uh um uh you know overton
86:06
window of allowable
86:08
thought then you simply uh are not going
86:10
to be heard you’re going to be
86:11
increasingly de-platformed
86:13
that is an extension of what happens
86:14
when you get government more involved we
86:16
need less of that than more of that but
86:17
we can talk about that endlessly
86:19
uh david thank you so much uh for coming
86:21
on i actually want to give you a chance
86:22
before i let you go
86:24
uh i want to give you a chance to say
86:25
anything uh that you didn’t get
86:27
get to uh say uh on the show or while we
86:30
were talking
86:31
anything you want to promote any
86:32
upcoming articles any upcoming events
86:34
anything that you want to say by the way
86:36
and i actually uh after you give your
86:38
final thoughts i have something to
86:39
promote that’s in alabama coming up this
86:41
weekend but
86:41
uh before i do that i want to give you
86:43
the final thought as much as
86:44
time as you want uh david preston the
86:47
floor
86:48
is yours thank you
86:51
spike basically what i want to say
86:54
is that if you haven’t searched out
86:58
independent media sources
86:59
that are run by individuals or a group
87:02
of individuals
87:03
you really need to broaden your horizons
87:05
and and seek out those
87:07
those those media sources because you’re
87:09
going to learn stuff that you’re
87:11
not going to learn from the corporate uh
87:14
from the corporate world and corporate
87:15
media like as spike said and even if
87:18
you do hear it on uh the national news
87:21
you’re not going to get the full stories
87:22
there’s the story there’s been several
87:24
times that a story’s happened here in
87:25
mobile
87:26
that you know a day or two later it gets
87:29
mentioned in a national news article
87:31
and they’ve you know they they distort
87:33
what actually happened or they don’t
87:35
actually give you the full context of it
87:37
so search out those
87:38
independent sources because you’re going
87:40
to get that context
87:41
that you’re not going to get from
87:43
corporate from corporate entities
87:45
because
87:46
they just don’t have the ability to to
87:47
do that if you live in alabama or you
87:50
have family members that live in alabama
87:52
and you want to learn
87:54
more about what’s going on in alabama i
87:56
encourage you to go to
87:58
bamanewsnow.com that’s all one word bama
88:01
like uh sweethomealabama newsnow.com
88:05
uh you can also find us on facebook at
88:08
bamanewsnow you can find us on twitter
88:11
at bama news now
88:12
gab parlor uh the next few days i’ll be
88:15
getting signed up with miwi so we can
88:17
start promoting on
88:19
miwi as well we have a columnist by the
88:22
name of pete rheem that
88:24
writes a column every every wednesday
88:27
he writes a column about a national
88:29
topic that’s
88:30
from a very conservative point of view
88:32
that i think a lot of your listeners
88:33
will find interesting
88:35
uh i write about once a week once every
88:37
other week
88:38
about something i will certainly be
88:40
writing this weekend about civil asset
88:42
forfeiture
88:43
and the bill that got passed out of
88:44
committee uh about it because it’s
88:46
certainly something that needs to end
88:48
in alabama and needs to end nationwide
88:51
and
88:51
certainly uh spike if you ever want me
88:53
to come back on and just
88:55
talk about anything related to alabama
88:57
journalism politics
88:58
heck i can even we could even do an hour
89:00
or two about
89:01
aviation manufacturing because you know
89:03
mobile’s got airbus here in
89:05
uh mobile where we build airbus planes
89:07
tonight and talk about government
89:08
intervention in a uh
89:10
in a private uh private industry sector
89:13
uh you know boeing with boeing and the
89:16
defense department and
89:17
aviation industry in general that’s
89:19
something you and i could we could we
89:20
could probably do two hours on and uh
89:22
not cover the same topic twice
89:24
so thank you for having me on oh
89:26
absolutely thank you for coming on
89:28
stick around i’m going to talk with you
89:29
during the uh the outro
89:31
uh but folks thanks again for uh for
89:33
tuning in to this episode of my fellow
89:35
americans
89:35
speaking of alabama if you live anywhere
89:38
near or around
89:39
huntsville alabama and david i think you
89:40
were saying you were you were hoping to
89:42
come out i think you weren’t sure yet if
89:43
you were going to be able to but
89:45
uh in huntsville alabama i will be at
89:48
the libertarian party of alabama’s
89:50
2021 convention uh march 20
89:54
uh 19th 20th and 21st uh i will be there
89:58
i will be giving a couple speeches and i
90:00
will also be participating
90:02
in an episode of the seth and willie
90:04
fred show on the 20th uh live
90:06
appearance i’ve been on their show a
90:07
couple times um and uh and i would love
90:10
to have you
90:11
david do you know yet if you’ll be able
90:12
to come or
90:14
i won’t be able to come mainly for two
90:16
reasons i’m still having car trouble
90:18
with uh
90:18
two out of my three vehicles and i’ll be
90:21
getting my second uh dose of the modern
90:23
vaccine on the 20th oh that’s right
90:25
that’s right well we will miss you uh
90:26
but uh hopefully i’ll get to see you the
90:28
next time i’m out i’m in
90:29
alabama hopefully it’ll be soon but yeah
90:32
we got beautiful beaches down here i
90:33
know you got mercury i know i
90:35
i i know i i the the the uh what is it
90:38
the golden the golden coast right isn’t
90:39
that what they call it
90:41
the gold coast emerald coast in florida
90:43
but i don’t know emerald
90:45
sunny uh dolphin island is the sunset
90:47
capital of alabama
90:48
yeah i know when it’s and you know that
90:50
whole gulf coast there is is absolutely
90:52
beautiful i i
90:53
i will hopefully we can get some a
90:55
libertarian event going down there as an
90:57
excuse for me to go to the
90:58
as a vehicle for me to also be able to
91:00
go to the beaches there so um
91:02
but yeah so i will be in alabama this
91:03
weekend so anyone who is in or near
91:05
huntsville alabama
91:06
come on out uh go to uh go to i believe
91:09
it’s lp alabama.org
91:12
um let me make sure that bam
91:16
is that what it is yeah lp lpalabama.org
91:20
to find out how you can register for the
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uh for the convention we’d love to i’d
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love to meet you in person
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and uh join me uh next week on tuesday
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right back here uh tuesday at 8 p.m for
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the muddy waters of freedom we’re matt
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wright and i parse through the week’s
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events
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like the 2020 wonder boys that we are
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and then right back here
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next wednesday uh for another episode of
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my fellow americans
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right here same spike plate well
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actually same spike place
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normal spike time this was uh one hour
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off because i was on kennedy
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next week it’ll be at 8 00 pm eastern my
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guest will be scott horton we will be
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talking about all the
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foreign policy stuff scott horton is
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definitely an expert when it comes to
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foreign policy and
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the wars and genocides overseas so
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that’ll be a fantastic topic but
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folks thanks again so much for tuning in
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thank you to david for coming on and
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thank you
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for watching i’m spike cohen and you
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are the power god bless guys
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away
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it might fit we might just unite
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brings light to kindness all you need is
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a sign
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put a cease to the crimes put an ease of
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the minds like mine
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sometimes darkness is all i find you
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know what they say about an hour for a
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night in a time where the bloody the
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blood who am i to deny i would cry when
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a loved one dies
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i recognize that body outside but the
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holes in the body that was alive out
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loud
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tell me why
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make a change
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we will make a
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change
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you