G’mar Chatimah Tovah everyone! Happy Jew Year to you and yours.
Spike had a great time out of town doing very important Semitic things, but now he’s BACK with his next guest, the host of The Other Black Guy Who Likes Guns Show, Marcus Matthews!
Spike and Marcus are going to talk guns, politics, guns, hip hop and guns.
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favorite people who is currently putting
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out videos on social media right now he
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is the host of the other black guy who
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likes gun show
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he is insightful he’s hilarious he is a
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in my opinion a Grammy level singer and
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if you’re not watching them you’re
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missing out so ladies and gentlemen
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without any further ado my fellow
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Americans please welcome to the show mr.
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Marcus Mathews Marcus thank you so much
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for joining us thank you for having me
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it’s a pleasure to be here you are
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hilarious I’ve been looking forward to
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this all weekend guys be sure to comment
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with your questions and thoughts and
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Marcus and I will tell you if you are
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right or wrong now Marcus this is your
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first time on the show and the first
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thing I always ask my guests is to tell
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me how you would describe your your
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beliefs I guess your political beliefs
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and then I guess tell me a little story
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a ditty tell me you did e about how you
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came to those beliefs was it like an aha
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moment or kind of a gradual evolution
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tell us your political ditty well
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basically I believed in the harm and the
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do no harm principle where you don’t do
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any harm to anybody’s person or property
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okay how I came to that is has been
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indeed been an evolution because I grew
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up with parents that live that Jim Crow
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seeing that people see in black and
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white with the water hoses and the dogs
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and all that shit
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right I’ve seen all of that through the
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stories that my parents have told me and
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I’ve always believed in social justice
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because of that because I feel like
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everybody should be treated equally
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under the law
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right and so within that I noticed that
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there was a lot of inequity
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in our society and you know you could
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look at it as from a racial point of
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view which I don’t I look at it from a
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power structure point of view because
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I’m a pre Bacon’s Rebellion American
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okay I understand that this country
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originally wasn’t divided along racial
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lines it was divided along economic
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lines and we have gone to the extreme in
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that over the last 35 40 years as far as
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economics goes so my core beliefs
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wrapped around the fact that I happen to
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love firearms and shooting sports and
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all that my core beliefs are just
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basically Live Free or Die why should we
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have this overbearing government when
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that was what was never intended in the
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founding of this country right that’s me
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nutshell very good and so that almost
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sounds more like because I depending on
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different things you said I thought well
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I’m not sure if he’s more of a
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constitutionalist or libertarian there
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are some things you said that it sounded
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almost kind of anarchists tee do you not
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really label it one way or the other or
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or do you do you see yourself as one of
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them one of those things more than the
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others okay so I first voted in like 98
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I believe it was okay and I was a
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registered Democrat and then by the mid
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early early mid-2000s
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I was like what the hell am i doing as
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far as my political preference right
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right immediately went independent from
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independent I went libertarian and from
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libertarian I kind of went I don’t want
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to say anarchists a suitable anarchist
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and now I’m like government is all that
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is bad ever right right right
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and and that proves itself through
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history and you know then that’s what
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this country is doing is trying to have
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a monolithic government of one party and
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there is no point in history where you
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could
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to me point out and say to me that that
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worked so that’s why I’m kind of I
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understand the need for government but I
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just think it needs to be reinvented
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right now right yeah so we are opposed
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to using the word anarchist on the show
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I actually am an anarchist I started as
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kind of a neocon you know Republican who
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wanted to go to war with you know
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everyone and over time I sort of became
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more of a constitutionalist and the more
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time I spent on I was kind of like you
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I’m like government’s bad all
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government’s bad you’re centralizing
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power it’s it’s essentially a monopoly
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on force that uses violence and theft to
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impose itself on everyone and the idea
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that we’re gonna get any kind of you
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know good services from something from
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an arrangement like that it’s kind of
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foolish so but I definitely agree I mean
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there’s no there’s no point of history
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in this country or any other where
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consolidation of power into one group is
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a good thing like that that never
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actually ends well remember right so
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then so what made you decide to start
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the other black guy who likes gun show
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you started that what about two years
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ago three years ago yeah I was in 2017 I
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think March of 2017 and it actually came
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out of gun tribe and this was a group of
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like-minded individuals that you know
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well I’d only want to say we’re like my
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because we fight literally all the time
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that’s kind of why it doesn’t exist in
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its proper form
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aside from Facebook censorship but we
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all have a core belief in Liberty you
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know there will always be cultural
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differences between different groups of
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people that can cause I don’t want to
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say animosity but conflict and it
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necessarily does it I’m not talking
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about like violent conflict I’m talking
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my more intellectual conflict because at
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the core of what we all believe is
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Liberty and my page spawned out a
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gunship and after it’s originally split
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up and spin it off into two different
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you know there’s a I’m not using there
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was Demetri Paul Chris
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Mack’s a whole bunch of guys that were
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and it got pretty big it wasn’t almost a
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hundred seven thousand followers and
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whatnot and when that split up uh I’m
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always I’ve always been an independent
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minded person so I was like you know I
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fuckin I’m just gonna go ahead and make
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my own thing and you know hopefully and
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we’ve been talking about hopefully we
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could come back together because I
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believe we were like a libertine minded
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looting and I mean that because we had
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all these different personalities that
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drive you all kinds of different angles
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but at the end of the day it always came
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back to the core of the subject matter
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which is no government live free right
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and like wu-tang it kind of fell apart
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because of personality clashes correct
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kind of comes with the territory right
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so that’s truly so what would you say
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was your I mean obviously you’re talking
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about guns a lot but what is the main
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core message that you wanted to share
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when you decide to break off and do your
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own thing
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my main core message is absolute liberty
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and with that being said I want people
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to understand that this is a republic
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and they hold the power right now what
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we what we see today is a is a diversion
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from what this country was meant to be
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into this massive conglomerate of
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bullshit that’s that’s making our fellow
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Americans worship the government life as
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if the government is omnipotent like
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they can do no wrong and my core belief
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is the government should fear us right
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right and in that we hold the power and
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we give them the we give them the
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Liberty to to do our business as for the
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common good which is very it should be
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very limited in scope and that’s what my
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main focus is it’s it’s bringing the
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Constitution to life into common sense
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in colorful terms
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and with a slight comedic value but I’m
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always dead serious and what I say and
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there’s no threats
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there’s no threats of violence there’s
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nothing like that I’m not trying to
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overthrow the government
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all right so Kramer glass tree but what
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I’m trying to say is when you look at
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your government you should have certain
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expectations and if those expectations
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aren’t met
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then you need to flex your muscle and
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that doesn’t mean you know taking this
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bowl of diarrhea soup next to your shit
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sandwich and interchanging them to see
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which one you’re gonna eat first right
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right and it’s it’s difficult right
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because you know I’m used to people on
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the left
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you know progressives and liberals that
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are talking about you know the common
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good but not meaning the common good is
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in who we choose to associate with but
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the common good is in all 325 million
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Americans as decided by an overbearing
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government or talking about how you know
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we need to be you know told what things
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we can and can’t do to you know to keep
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us safe or or to you know to keep us
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protected or whatever or that you know
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no one needs guns like that but I’m
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increasingly seeing that coming from
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conservatives or I guess rather
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Republicans as well and it’s not the
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first time that’s happened but it’s
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kinda mean correct me if I’m wrong but
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to me I’m disconcerted to watch people
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who usually will talk about the Second
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Amendment and how important it is and
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how it’s used to fight against tyranny
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and then you know the second it’s a
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Republican saying you know we’re gonna
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take your guns without due process and
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you know you probably shouldn’t have a
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gun like that and you definitely don’t
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need a bump stock even though bump
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stocks are garbage but the fact that
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they’re even telling you you you
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shouldn’t have one or a silencer or a
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suppressor or whatever all of a sudden
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now that it’s a Republican doing it
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they’re like oh no well that’s a fun
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he’s trying to keep us safe
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yeah well as you may know I live behind
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enemy lines when you talk about right
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right right and we just had a couple bad
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anti Second Amendment
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measures in 2016 that passed with 63
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there was two of them the main ones I’m
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talking about passed with 63 and 65
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percent of the vote right California
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surprisingly enough people may be
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shocked by this only about 35 percent of
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Californians registered are registered
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Democrats right and there’s about 25
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percent Republican and the rest which is
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a sizable portion of registered
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independents now taking those two
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numbers we know that a sizable portion
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of Republicans voted for those anti to a
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measures which was getting rhythm
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because you could still own a 30-round
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the standard capacity magazine in
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California if you had bought it before
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the year 2000 but they went back and
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said those grandfather’s of night those
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grandfathered magazines are now illegal
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and that was like 63% of Californians
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voted in favor of that right then the
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second one was about the assault another
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assault weapons ban and about 65% of
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Californians voted for that so we have a
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sizable portion of Republicans vote for
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those anti to a measures and with that
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it is clear that there is no defining
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trait between the two parties when it
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comes to the Second Amendment that I
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could point to and say those guys are a
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pro Second Amendment because they’re
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just not you’ve seen it from highest
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echelons of our government currently all
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the way down where they’re coming up in
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favor of red flag laws right you know
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and and then they sit here complaining
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about people making salacious comments
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about them that will trigger such red
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flag laws for the person involved and I
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that is sounds like you’re a recipe for
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abuse oh of course I’m not yeah so you
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know when it comes to Democrat and
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Republican in there I really don’t see
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an astounding difference between either
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brand
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whereas I would put my trust in the
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Second Amendment with either one of them
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because they’re gonna go where the wind
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blows no absolutely I used to say
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there’s no difference between Republican
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politicians and Democrat politicians and
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for the most part I still I still agree
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with that I now say there’s not much
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difference between Republican voters and
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Democrat voters when I saw um what’s
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that Schmucks name um there’s a lot of
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smokes out there no I know I know that’s
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why it that’s why it’s not helping um no
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he’s definitely um Cuomo Chris Cuomo
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when he was so when he was saying I’m
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gonna throw you down the stairs because
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the guy was calling him frito or
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whatever listen I mean it wasn’t his
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best moment but also like if I’m with my
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family and kids and someone’s giving me
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a hard time I’m not sure I’m gonna
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threatened to throw him down the stairs
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but I actually kind of respected that he
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did that all that day what and whether
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you did or not the sheer number of
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Republicans including the president who
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either suggested or outright said yeah
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he should be red-flagged and not allowed
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to own weapons and I’m like how quick
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are you to give up everything to the
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state because like someone said
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something mean like for the group of
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people that’s constantly talking about
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triggered snowflakes you sure often got
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triggered awful fast
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by a guy who you know showed a little
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testosterone when he was being
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challenged in front of his kids yeah
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that was the moment because I’m not a
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big chris cuomo family and i flip
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between the channels the the main media
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channels for entertainment value area
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research stuff like that not seen before
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and i’ve seen them get testy but when he
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actually did that I gotta be honest I
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was like he netted up pretty hard on
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that dude I thought it was about to come
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to blows
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I really wasn’t backing down and at the
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end of the day the only thing that that
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motivates me to to maintain the Second
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Amendment and the rest of the
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Constitution as well is the people that
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I’m gonna expect me behind me which is
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my family now are you always
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mentioned this fact or two people will
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say well why do you need this why do you
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need that remember Hurricane Katrina oh
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yeah oh yeah so the government had a
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two-week warning that Hurricane Katrina
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was coming right and the governmental
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response to that disaster I mean you
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couldn’t rate it more than a d-minus and
20:19
in probably an F right oh it’s terrible
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yeah so the city of New Orleans at the
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time we had the same population base as
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the city of Long Beach out here in
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Southern California which is a there’s
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like 380 some thousand people or
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whatever and 85% of those people got out
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of Dodge I’m horrible with math so I
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don’t know how many people were left but
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that’s it’s still a kind of a shit ton
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of people
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right right tens of thousands of people
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were still there yeah so with the with
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the warning and the ability to stage
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materials and whatnot and to bring in
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relief as only the United States can’t
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the governmental response to that was
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piss-poor now my area the the four
21:06
County area Los Angeles San Bernardino
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Riverside and Orange County is roughly
21:11
15 million people we’re not going to get
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any type of warning whatsoever when our
21:18
big earthquake hits us and knocks down
21:20
more than half the buildings prices for
21:22
tremendous damage to the infrastructure
21:25
people won’t be able to get around move
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or anything like that whereas they gonna
21:30
come and protect my family for an
21:32
extended period of time – martial law
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with no warning when they could even do
21:38
a half-ass job less than a half-ass job
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in New Orleans with old with days of
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forewarning I live in a hurricane area
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they know days ahead of time days for
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certain I mean they know weeks at a time
21:52
that it might hit you and they know
21:53
pretty much at least three or four days
21:55
ahead of time that it’s absolutely gonna
21:57
at least graze you and and and the way
22:01
that they handled that as this thing
22:02
came straight at them it slow in slow mo
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without ever veering like
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said they all and all they could do was
22:09
I remember that the you know the
22:11
National Guard came in and just started
22:13
seizing everyone’s guns which then led
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to more looting because now they knew
22:16
what no one had any guns precisely and
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then you know I’m looking at it like
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this
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I’m a bit of a I’m not a I wouldn’t call
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myself a prepper I’m more of a urban
22:28
prepper because I’m real prepper would
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be able to might get to the woods or be
22:34
in the woods relatively quickly and my
22:36
words are probably impossible to get to
22:38
considering I’d have to go through fifty
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thousand people to get to where I would
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be out I’m a more of an urban area right
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for me to can like sit back and consider
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okay what if the government does do
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martial law nobody on the streets what’s
22:56
the stop homies from jumping the fences
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from house to house out of the view of
23:02
the law enforcement and and then even
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with the law enforcement they’re gonna
23:07
be protecting the limited supplies that
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are gonna be locally in every
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jurisdiction of course that’s what your
23:14
mass is gonna be so for them like
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deliver our safety like we’re taking
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your safety from you I just don’t
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believe in that shit in the best of
23:26
conditions they can’t keep you safe I
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mean you know I I’m not an expert in
23:31
crime and in in you know LA but I I know
23:35
that you know there are some crime
23:36
issues there and other places Chicago
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New Orleans is another one there are
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parts of you know Myrtle Beach that are
23:42
sketchy like they they can’t keep us
23:44
safe when it’s you know partly cloudy
23:46
out so what what’s it how are they gonna
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do that when there’s you know hurricanes
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and everything else so no I I agree with
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you hundred percent and of course
23:52
obviously the the purpose of the right
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to keep and bear arms is not just home
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defense against you know private sector
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people it’s you know and you have to be
24:03
careful how you talk about this but
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ultimately it’s to keep anyone who would
24:08
try to harm you in check and that’s
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another thing about you know with
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conservatives that it’s like you know
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progressives will get that the state is
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you know the biggest abuser of people
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out there but then they want the state
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to grow bigger
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you know conservatives tend to talk
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about fighting against tyranny but then
24:25
when you give them actual examples I
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mean I saw some conservatives that were
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out here the last couple weeks defending
24:31
a cop who broke into someone else’s
24:33
apartment and shot him while he ate ice
24:36
cream and they’re like yeah but you know
24:38
she had a long day I’m like you would
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never if this had been and I’ll say it
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this has been a black guy going into a
24:45
white cops house and go oh I’m in the
24:46
wrong hat oh I think this is my house
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I’m gonna shoot this white woman they
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would have never been okay with that but
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make it a cop and a immigrant and and
24:55
now suddenly it’s a bat and now it’s
24:56
suddenly they’re defending literally a
24:58
cop busting into someone’s house and
25:00
killing them how could you play as so
25:03
you how could you pledge allegiance to
25:07
this country and at the same time allow
25:12
the government to kill a citizen in cold
25:14
blood and be okay with that how could
25:18
you be okay with your your government
25:20
killing a fellow citizen you know died
25:22
by all accounts there was not one
25:25
deviation from this man’s character that
25:30
he had any kind of ill no no no in our
25:36
society that he did anything wrong now
25:38
originally they tried to say yeah we
25:40
either something yeah like okay I was
25:43
like here we go yep but I was um you
25:47
know in they brought down the the
25:49
verdict and the sentencing in the last
25:52
24 hours
25:53
yeah yeah there’s all I was shocked as
25:56
hell that they got on a murder I thought
25:58
for sure it would be manslaughter
26:00
involuntary manslaughter or negligent
26:03
homicide yep but for her to get ten
26:07
years mind you my understanding but I’ve
26:11
read differently but that my current
26:13
understanding is on murder there is no
26:15
possibility of parole
26:16
so if she does does that 10-year strong
26:19
it’s gonna be held in her because her
26:21
chosen profession when she gets in there
26:24
she’ll have to be in probably protective
26:27
custody from day no and yeah I would
26:29
think so ten years because you were
26:33
tired
26:35
and you’re sitting here sexting your
26:37
your partner right you know I always say
26:41
that you know there’s some female cops
26:45
you could look at I call them pass
26:46
around cuz I have friends that are in
26:49
law enforcement and there’s these
26:52
certain female cops that absolutely
26:57
adore the company of their fellow
26:59
officers off duty and sometimes on duty
27:02
and she was a classic example of one of
27:06
those female cops that you know morally
27:10
is quite questionable but for her excuse
27:15
and and whatnot and for them to try to
27:17
justify this murder of a United States
27:19
citizen yeah in cold blood and
27:24
misrepresent the facts because they’re
27:26
trying to say he charged at her was
27:29
coming towards her when the trajectory
27:31
of the bullet that went into his heart
27:33
was a downward trajectory
27:35
he was six-foot she was 5 3 that had to
27:38
be some Naraku Hooten no other that the
27:42
enemy type of deal where she jumped up
27:44
and shot himself a god oh yeah yeah yeah
27:47
yeah no he obviously was sitting down
27:49
and I and and or crouched down and the
27:52
whole I mean so the thing with so
27:54
watching people who will talk about
27:56
fighting tyranny and then they
27:58
worshipped the police they’ll say
28:00
something they’ll trip me out they’ll
28:01
say something like dude see Pelosi I’ve
28:02
got something for you if you come to
28:04
take my guns and I’m like Nancy Pelosi
28:06
isn’t leaving her house baito Roark who
28:09
I cannot stand is not leaving his like
28:13
you know freaking you know soccer mom
28:16
van or whatever he drives around like
28:17
he’s not they’re not coming anywhere
28:19
near you it’s the police that you
28:21
worship who were gonna be the ones
28:22
kicking down your door and fully
28:24
expecting you to comply you know we’ve
28:26
already seen in in in Maryland and
28:29
another something like 11 people have
28:31
already gotten killed enforcing these
28:32
red flag laws so it’s one thing to say
28:35
oh you know give give you know cops a
28:37
chance I’m not against the police or
28:39
whatever but you can’t constantly give
28:41
them a benefit of the doubt when they’re
28:43
the ones whose job it is all the stuff
28:44
you hate about government every
28:46
politician you absolutely hate
28:48
would be completely powerless and
28:50
toothless if there weren’t people who
28:52
were enforcing their laws against you
28:55
using whatever level of force is
28:57
necessary to bring you into compliance
28:59
and that’s just a sad reality of the
29:03
conservative movement is that they
29:06
literally think it’s gonna be somebody
29:09
else it’s gonna be these sweet
29:14
latte-drinking hippy type guys are gonna
29:18
come up come to the house right right
29:20
here guns yeah you know and it’s a real
29:24
sad reality that they’re so blinded you
29:28
know they they literally call us the
29:30
Sheep they’re the sheepdogs
29:32
and everybody’s bad is the wolf yeah
29:35
they literally call us sheep and not
29:39
only conservatives but liberals just
29:43
fall right into the flock and say there
29:45
are protect us now my dad was a cop for
29:49
a little bit of a time literally my best
29:52
friend’s a cop and I have tons of cop
29:53
friends from my coaching circles and
29:56
whatnot there’s one constant when people
29:59
say cops protect you you have to call
30:03
them and once you call them it’s usually
30:06
after you’ve already been assaulted or
30:09
robbed or right right right
30:11
oh whatever so how did they protect you
30:14
I don’t know one person on this on God’s
30:17
green earth that is gotten their
30:19
property back after it was stolen out of
30:22
their car or home when you’ve gotten
30:24
assaulted by somebody who mugged you on
30:27
the streets you don’t get your property
30:31
back 80% of the time right well for this
30:35
worshipping there is a necessity for law
30:39
enforcement
30:39
I firmly believe that but I also believe
30:43
that government is the creator of crime
30:45
you know a classic example is that as
30:48
the drug war if you impact the prison
30:51
all the prison’s of everybody who was in
30:54
there for drug crimes it was some would
30:57
be like somewhere between 60 and 75
30:59
percent of the entire prison population
31:02
in this country yeah and if it was a
31:05
simple possession what harm has come to
31:09
anybody that you could prove to justify
31:13
the sentencing of somebody who willfully
31:16
wishes to ingest whatever their choice
31:19
in chosen inoculate is so that’s right
31:25
right whatever we want to whatever they
31:27
want to toast off to what’s the
31:29
advantage you don’t cross that line once
31:31
you cross on line you know it’s a
31:32
different set of circumstances but if
31:34
you’re a peacefully injecting or
31:36
ingesting whatever drug you choose why
31:40
is they any of mine or your concern
31:41
right exactly exactly and the thing is
31:44
you know especially in the future when
31:47
you know weeds gonna be legal very soon
31:49
and and we’ll probably end up seeing you
31:52
know like that like they’re doing in
31:53
Europe where they’re decriminalizing
31:54
most or all drugs and that would be
31:56
that’ll be great
31:57
but at the same time you’ll have to talk
31:59
to people who had most or you know large
32:03
parts of their lives stolen from them
32:06
put in cages because they were engaging
32:09
in commerce that was I mean forget the
32:12
fact that you have the CIA bringing the
32:14
drugs in and and the US military
32:16
protecting poppy fields in Afghanistan
32:18
putting all that aside you have people
32:20
that engaged in voluntary commerce who
32:23
had their lives destroyed and it’s
32:25
probably gonna to being legal in the
32:26
future anyway so the whole thing is is
32:29
absolutely ridiculous but you know
32:32
Minerva Tufts to me seem like they’re
32:35
constantly you know progressives are
32:37
constantly progressing forward how much
32:39
more they want the government to have
32:41
but conservatives seem to at the same
32:43
time constantly moving their goalposts –
32:45
it’s like conservatives will draw a line
32:47
in the sand and say don’t you dare cross
32:49
this line progressives will immediately
32:51
cross that line and then conservatives
32:53
will step out ahead of them and cross a
32:55
new line ago don’t you dare cross this
32:56
line and it’s like whatever
32:58
conservatives were fighting against 15
33:01
20 years ago they’re now fighting to
33:03
preserve for future generations Social
33:06
Security Medicare even a lot of them now
33:09
you know are talking about how you know
33:10
we need to have stricter you know
33:12
immigration restrictions that we can
33:14
preserve the welfare system
33:16
for future generations I’m like I
33:17
thought you were against all this like
33:19
what what when did you become in favor
33:21
of gun control and welfare and and you
33:24
know the government having control of
33:26
all these different things and the
33:28
Federal Reserve and everything else it’s
33:29
like they’re constantly progressing –
33:32
yeah well it’s the I think it partially
33:36
that is the the 9/11 effect where the
33:39
government portrayed itself as your only
33:42
buffer between these guys that ride
33:47
magic carpets and this basic safety your
33:52
safety what I mean because now we throw
33:57
around the term hero as a deity and you
34:03
automatically get hero status by signing
34:07
your name on a paper to throw away your
34:10
particular constitutional rights and
34:11
liberties to serve the government and no
34:14
matter what you see whether it be law
34:15
enforcement of military whatever
34:17
otherwise right right now we
34:19
automatically consider them heroes like
34:21
after I remember after the El Paso
34:23
shooting everybody’s like we need to
34:25
praise the heroes that showed up and and
34:28
capture that guy who actually stops
34:30
shooting already call 911 and surrender
34:33
we need to praise them for their
34:35
response and I was like first of all the
34:39
the first response has to come from you
34:41
because ultimately you’re in charge of
34:44
your safety these people need to Pat
34:46
them on the back but they don’t want to
34:49
be held responsible for anything dislike
34:52
that that parent that sued that parkland
34:54
the Parkman’s Sheriff for running out of
34:58
the school when and was and the court
35:02
reaffirmed that Supreme Court decision
35:03
where they have no duty to protect you
35:07
right yet they want to disarm you they
35:10
want you to follow these guidelines and
35:13
rules but if somebody else decides to
35:16
stray outside of these civil norms so to
35:20
speak you’re on your own until we get
35:24
there and then from that point forward
35:26
we have no further responsibility
35:29
to you or your family but you know what
35:32
you don’t need to own that particular
35:33
type of firearm that I’m carrying to
35:36
protect you if I show up in time
35:41
ya know exactly exactly and and and we
35:45
are our own first responders it’s one
35:47
thing to say man you know these
35:49
firefighters that you know ran into the
35:51
burning buildings on 9/11 or any other
35:53
design absolutely are they heroes
35:55
absolutely it’s another thing to say any
35:57
person who was a part of law enforcement
35:59
the military firefighters did if you
36:02
work in the government you’re all heroes
36:04
all of you were heroes just an automatic
36:08
hero I had a friend who was in the
36:10
military who had served in the military
36:12
during Iraq and and they were like
36:14
people would say oh thank you for your
36:15
service you’re such a hero and he’d say
36:16
I mostly taught dance lessons like you
36:19
know like I I we weren’t really doing
36:21
much there and and so I would teach
36:24
Latin dance lessons and they were and
36:26
they would still be like yeah but you
36:27
were teaching it to our heroes oh my
36:28
keep it’s a dance instructor like and
36:30
there’s nothing wrong with being a dance
36:32
instructor but that’s not exactly hero
36:33
status necessarily I’m gonna go through
36:36
some of these comments cuz we have a lot
36:38
of them sweet so a lot of questions
36:42
about Maj Toure so we’ll get to that in
36:43
a minute
36:45
someone said when the president Hampi
36:47
aunt said when the president is a
36:49
Republican everybody’s a raging liberal
36:51
Nick Perez said shouts out from the bay
36:54
area what’s that I said the hyphy
37:01
movement Bay Area yeah area homie so Y
37:08
it’s raid writer was talking about the
37:11
sentencing said ten years was not nearly
37:13
enough especially when there are those
37:14
doing life for nonviolent offenses
37:16
exactly Chris Reynolds personal injury
37:19
attorney Chris Reynolds attorney at law
37:20
says beta will work will jump on your
37:22
dining room table
37:25
yeah but then yeah he jumps on your
37:27
table but he crouches down so that he
37:29
looks you know he’s at your level which
37:31
why did you get on the table Michael R
37:34
it says red flag laws also put the
37:36
officers lives whom these people worship
37:38
in danger that’s true
37:40
y it’s writer says
37:43
there may be a need for law enforcement
37:45
but there’s no reason we can’t privatize
37:46
it yes yes um let’s see and then a bunch
37:51
of yeses Oh Chris Reynolds says most
37:54
Trump Republicans aren’t conservatives
37:56
by definition they’re authoritarian
37:58
moderate and sometimes liberals yeah
38:00
except the the the term conservative
38:03
they seem keep moving the goalposts like
38:06
a conservative 100 years ago would be
38:08
called an anarchist now so I’m not I’m
38:11
not anyway Michael R it says I fix
38:13
trucks at Fort Bragg’s for four years
38:15
I’m a veteran Hero
38:16
thank you for your heroic veteran
38:18
service of fixing trucks Michael um so
38:22
so Marcus where we go okay so as I had
38:27
mentioned before you aren’t just a an
38:31
insightful political pundit you’re also
38:33
a very talented singer
38:34
let’s hear some let’s let’s let’s let’s
38:38
hear some of that right now all the
38:40
boats on the plane they come into
38:44
America never looking back again they
38:51
come into America
39:37
tasty
39:52
legal counsel Arkansas
40:25
bye-bye move on captain Marcus how
40:33
cheated you know how cheated do you feel
40:36
by the recording industry that you are a
40:38
platinum-selling artist you know you
40:40
know it’s interesting because in my 20s
40:46
I was in a hip-hop band and I bullshit
40:49
you not we came about that close to
40:51
getting signed by a delicious vinyl oh
40:53
wow and I actually have been informed
40:57
for crowds of over 5,000 people I’ve
41:01
opened for wu-tang the roots there’s a
41:07
there’s a few other guys I’m not here
41:09
kissing by his ass or shotcalling
41:11
whatever but like it’s always been a
41:14
passion of mine to entertain the people
41:19
and for me not being recognized for my
41:23
talent predicted it’s almost blasphemy
41:27
yeah this god-given talent has not been
41:31
fully recognized I’m glad you brought
41:34
this up yep it is truly offensive to me
41:38
and I’m not easily offended that my
41:43
singing videos do not have less than I
41:47
mean this should be a million views
41:49
apiece honestly that is the that is I
41:53
mean a scientific fact that my talent is
41:57
is the primary reason the earth turns
42:03
there we go I didn’t do I didn’t I
42:06
didn’t know would start doing that again
42:07
um so no it’s absolutely an objective
42:10
fact that you’re one of if not the most
42:12
talented singers I’ve ever seen we have
42:14
and we’ve gotten we’ve gotten quite a
42:16
few comments here Michael R it says
42:19
voice of an angel cliff says I Kris run
42:22
says I like this mixtape Philip prune
42:25
ADIS is a hundred times better than
42:26
Miley Cyrus or or or Billy Ray Cyrus
42:30
let’s be clear this Reynolds is spittin
42:32
hot fire
42:34
Jacob LaBelle this dude yeah we’ve got a
42:38
few more hearts and smiley faces so you
42:41
uh you definitely hit with Muddy Waters
42:43
crowd so we’ll be putting out when you
42:46
when you release your album when you
42:47
drop your album let me know and we’ll
42:48
put in the shownotes yeah I got you okay
42:51
good so speaking of which this is as
42:55
good a time as any for me to plug
42:56
something so this is my halfway through
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the show show plug hey gang are you
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not a second before so Marcus on one of
43:50
your recent videos you said and I quote
43:52
where California goes the nation goes
43:55
and that scared the hell out of me
43:57
mostly because I immediately recognized
44:00
it to be true tell us what you meant
44:02
when you said that well if you look at a
44:05
lot of these laws that you have on the
44:08
books around the nation like seatbelt
44:12
laws by comet laws vaccination laws the
44:17
the fact that California represents a
44:21
very sizable student population so
44:25
whatever California puts it in its
44:27
curriculum a vast number of states have
44:31
to buy that same book because the
44:35
publisher is gonna print so many copies
44:38
in whatnot right so when you look at
44:41
what we do here in California the
44:43
cellphone laws a lot of the gun laws
44:46
those tend to spread and they tend to
44:49
spread rather quickly right oh when
44:53
people laugh at California you know I’ve
44:57
been on gun forums and whatnot for a
44:59
long time when they when they look at
45:03
our laws and they laugh at us I was like
45:05
hey man how about you joined the fight
45:07
and then they’re like screw California
45:09
blah blah blah and then fail to realize
45:13
these California lawmakers are usually
45:16
going through these stepping stones
45:19
through state politics to going into
45:22
federal politics right and they’re
45:24
bringing those ideas with them to the
45:26
federal level there will be a day where
45:30
these jackass Democrats hold both houses
45:33
and the presidency that will happen
45:36
without a doubt oh yeah but then in ten
45:40
to twenty years probably about three to
45:42
four times around all cause that you
45:45
weren’t willing to fight with us on that
45:47
you aren’t willing to support our battle
45:49
those will be coming to a federal level
45:51
and you can already see that because
45:53
guess where Nancy Pelosi is from right
45:56
yep the Bay Area and and I mean they’re
45:59
grooming Gavin Newsom I don’t think
46:01
he’ll make it but I’d they’re trying to
46:03
agree Gavin Newsom for federal office no
46:07
other than the former before Trump came
46:09
and became the Republican hero the
46:11
Republican hero was Ronald Reagan no
46:13
other than Ronald Reagan as California
46:15
Governor in response to scary black men
46:17
carrying guns outside passed the laws
46:21
against open carry in California it was
46:22
all triggered by you know white
46:24
Democrats like a Ronald Reagan who us
46:27
because he was a Democrat at the time
46:29
who said we have to you know stop
46:32
basically black people from carrying
46:34
guns outside because of the Black
46:35
Panthers and so now there’s no more open
46:37
carry in California during and and that
46:39
carried on into other places he ended up
46:41
becoming president as president he
46:43
advocated for assault weapons bans which
46:46
ended up becoming law in 1994 thankfully
46:48
that expired and no fool
46:49
but it’s not just one party or the other
46:51
it’s like you said California is sort of
46:53
a trendsetter not just politically but
46:57
socially so much of pop culture comes
46:59
out of California and then it’s it’s
47:02
also the fact that when you’re such a
47:03
big economic powerhouse you can drive
47:05
smaller states in the things I heard
47:08
recently that so you guys have the
47:11
strictest regulations on how your gas is
47:13
were fine and so when these refineries
47:15
will make gasoline complete to comply
47:18
with the different states in order for
47:19
it to comply with California regulations
47:21
they have to actually empty out the
47:23
tanks and let them dry for something
47:25
like 24 hours in an industry where
47:28
they’re you know pretty you know
47:29
measuring how much how many you know
47:31
tens of thousands of barrels they can
47:33
refine in an hour they have to let it
47:35
completely dry out all day long so that
47:37
they can produce California gas so
47:39
there’s actually pressure from the
47:41
refineries on smaller states for them to
47:43
also adopt those same California
47:45
restrictions so that they can you know
47:48
not have to keep it emptied out as long
47:50
and just keep using the California
47:52
restriction so and I’m sure that works
47:54
its way schoolbooks every other thing so
47:56
the people that you know the people
47:58
whose plan for California is to hope
48:00
that it you know sinks into the ocean
48:02
you know is they’re not they’re not
48:05
addressing the reality of the fact that
48:07
California’s kind of dragging the rest
48:08
of the world the rest of the country
48:09
with it no and and that’s what’s really
48:13
really sad that we are all
48:15
interconnected but we refuse to
48:18
understand that these things don’t have
48:22
to happen if the Republic sticks
48:25
together as a republic right and you
48:28
fail to understand that the people or
48:32
the power because that sounds like some
48:33
socialist rhetoric right you felt
48:36
understand what this republic was always
48:40
been about and and it’s sad I mean I I
48:43
don’t even know if we can ever recover
48:46
from this because you know you brought
48:50
the term like automatic hero can we have
48:52
semi-automatic heroes legal or illegal
48:57
so apparently my son had this laptop I’m
49:02
about to play
49:03
getting my charger real quick okay um
49:07
standby
49:08
can we go to a break real quick my bad
49:10
sure no problem I’ll just keep talking
49:12
you do whatever you need to do Oh
49:14
so I will go through some of the
49:16
comments while you’re while you’re away
49:21
Chris Reynolds what no minimal
49:23
listenership Chris personal injury
49:24
attorney Chris Reynolds attorney at law
49:25
that is correct you heard correctly no
49:29
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49:31
dot F M be sure to go to anchor dot F M
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or download the anchor app today Chris
49:37
also said Texas will flip eventually
49:39
that’s I it could very well happen I was
49:43
very surprised to see how how how close
49:50
beta will work although supposedly
49:53
California expats were more likely to
49:55
vote for Cruz but I don’t know how
49:57
accurate that was Chris all said at
49:59
least Nancy Reagan brought that great
50:02
just ain’t no policy worked perfectly
50:03
I actually one of my favorite shirts to
50:06
wear when I was high was my dear shirt
50:08
might just say no sure still have them
50:11
Chris Reynolds said sing spike
50:13
absolutely not never never a shout-out
50:18
from Don Gotti and what else do we have
50:22
here are you doing Oh me give me a call
50:25
that’s my that’s my guy cool he’s IRL
50:31
friends it’s when your IRL friends cool
50:34
so mark is a little bit of a change of
50:38
subject here because you mentioned it
50:41
one of your more recent videos I grew
50:42
like you I grew up on rap hip-hop and
50:45
R&B; wu-tang Naughty by Nature Isley
50:47
Brothers Naz Shah take your Tribe Called
50:49
Quest all of that like that was that was
50:51
me I was the white kid that listened to
50:53
black music in South Carolina which you
50:56
can imagine the names I was called but
50:57
that was me I was also the only Jew but
51:01
that’s a whole other subject oh yeah I
51:03
can’t even listen to the garbage that is
51:06
coming out now I don’t consider it and
51:09
it calls itself it’s the same stations I
51:11
used to listen to and it had no but I
51:15
like I can’t even replicate
51:16
that calls itself hip-hop and R&B; it is
51:19
utter garbage who is to blame for this
51:22
and how do we punish them well that’s I
51:25
think it goes to unfortunately it kind
51:30
of started with outcasts opening the
51:33
door nationwide to the southern
51:36
experience and then Little John came in
51:39
and he ruled the scene for an extended
51:42
period of time
51:43
right and then Cash Money also had a lot
51:47
to do with this and you know hip-hop
51:50
usually would gravitate between west
51:53
coast and the East Coast you know like
51:56
the outcasts came and opened up a new
51:59
front so to speak in this war and with
52:02
you know the natural evolution because
52:05
you know Little John was all about that
52:07
rowdy stuff that head buster prior I’m a
52:10
and then it kind of like like just this
52:17
it didn’t evolve the devolve guide
52:20
evolved yeah into this gutter music were
52:25
a lot of these guys their cadence is so
52:27
predictable
52:28
my and my son listens to the shit and
52:31
I’m like my god yeah that’s the same guy
52:34
we even listen to the same while we
52:36
listen to his album and he’s like no
52:38
we’ve listened to like ten different
52:40
dudes and I’m like no way those were 10
52:43
introduced because it sounded precisely
52:46
the same with the same beat rhythm the
52:51
same cadence and their delivery because
52:54
you know I was I you know whoo tang was
52:58
a major influence in my life but I go
52:59
all the way back to it like I thought it
53:01
was Big Daddy Kane growing up because
53:03
the greater Big Daddy Kane Big Daddy
53:07
Kane moved everyone out of the whole
53:09
boom bap thing into like this newer like
53:12
what we know was like late 80s 90s rap
53:15
he started all that I firmly believe
53:18
like my homeboys you know there’s this
53:22
group called lexicon and they they were
53:24
recently they were really big in Europe
53:26
but as to Jewish kids
53:30
we stand hang out and have these long
53:32
discussions about hip-hop and we’re was
53:35
going back in the early 2000s and we
53:39
kind of predicted its fall when when you
53:41
know cuz we were really they had a song
53:43
called Nike hits and we were really into
53:46
airforce once and then Nelly made a song
53:49
about airports and all like we got like
53:53
collectively looked at each other and
53:55
said it’s over and that was one another
53:57
contributor to the downfall you know I’m
54:00
not hating on their because they got
54:01
their their money they did their things
54:03
they were pop they were popular and I
54:06
can dig it but nobody ever sees the
54:10
repercussions it’s like government
54:11
government’s gonna go in there with the
54:13
best of intentions and Dinah’s fuck it
54:16
all up and it’s all shit and garbage now
54:17
and that’s the same thing with a lot of
54:19
these guys did with their hip-hop music
54:22
they went in there with the best of
54:23
intentions but it just found a lot of
54:26
garbage following that so that’s a very
54:29
interesting hot take I think this is the
54:31
first time I’ve ever heard someone blame
54:32
dirty south music for what we have now
54:35
which I I have to I take some personal
54:38
offense just because I also grew up on
54:40
beats by the pound Cash Money Master P
54:43
mystical all of that and I get what so I
54:46
get what you’re saying because I kind of
54:47
get it especially with like Cash Money
54:49
and when Air Force Ones came out that
54:51
definitely was not a song that I like in
54:53
retrospect that song is hidden shoulders
54:56
above anything else that’s like like
54:59
honestly only the only new artists I
55:02
like are ones who are replicating 90s
55:06
and 2000’s music so like Griselda
55:09
anything from Griselda Action Bronson
55:12
these but these are all using these are
55:15
all people using that say believe it to
55:17
a Jew to try to bring it back to
55:18
something nice but uh these are all
55:20
people trying to replicate that almost I
55:23
guess that Big Daddy Kane cadence of
55:25
music and and getting out of that like
55:28
the top of and like and then they’re
55:31
like dressing like I mean if you want to
55:33
dress in a dress or whatever fine but
55:35
then you’re like calling yourself a thug
55:36
but you’re wearing a dress and you’ve
55:38
got a gun but you’re sucking on a
55:40
pacifier like I just I don’t it
55:43
very androgynous and that was I was I
55:46
was a young kid in the eighties and that
55:49
was the kind of the style anywhere from
55:51
hair metal to R&B; it’s very interesting
55:54
this and you just kind of like wondered
55:56
about everybody and we’re like you know
55:58
I screw it I think that’s right X had
56:00
the first open attitude towards gay
56:03
people is because we grew up looking at
56:05
all these images like okay is that a
56:08
dude or chick you know I don’t even have
56:10
time for this I’m playing Super Mario
56:12
Brothers on my Nintendo line I’m talking
56:15
about the old-school Nintendo like oh
56:17
yeah the NES and all that’s the Tendo 64
56:22
stuff like that yeah so yeah this in the
56:27
south per se you know because my family
56:30
roots are in Alabama right but you know
56:34
the the music’s and this is not because
56:39
I believe the outcasts are an epic
56:43
world-class Hall of Fame type of music
56:47
group I love Outkast right right but you
56:51
know what you cannot copy an original
56:54
you’re gonna spawn off and of what
56:59
Americans generally like is that they
57:02
like what appeals to the lowest common
57:04
denominator in general so to speak on
57:08
everything from politics music culture
57:10
they want to go to that lowest common
57:13
denominator and and for a lot of hip-hop
57:16
that’s the because I honestly believe
57:20
and I’m a cat shit for this honestly
57:22
believe it pop has been detrimental to
57:26
the black community
57:27
in a lot of ways because this pervasive
57:33
attitude towards violence unnecessary
57:37
violence because I’m a firm believer in
57:39
violence but you know when it’s violence
57:43
because somebody looked at you the wrong
57:44
way or stepped on your shoe or said
57:46
something that that’s that’s unnecessary
57:49
violence that just simply doesn’t need
57:51
to happen and when you have all those
57:53
guys because I remember that one song
57:55
I’m a head buster
57:56
and I was like dang dude I know what
57:59
happens after the club when guys have
58:02
ingested that’s all – three times fine
58:04
with some cognac yeah yeah and it is
58:08
chance cuz like I was talking to my my
58:10
daughter yesterday I was like when I was
58:12
in school you know we will fight we go
58:14
ahead up and typically that was the end
58:16
of it but like as I got into my twenties
58:19
fools were fight and they would go ahead
58:22
up in the club and then you would have
58:25
to like glow crawl through the parking
58:28
lot to get out because it was just like
58:30
a warzone
58:30
people would just start letting off
58:32
right right and now it’s it’s letting
58:36
off in the club I mean it’s this like
58:38
skip the fisticuffs let’s just go to
58:41
start yeah yeah yeah and that’s what a
58:45
lot of hip-hop glorifies and I think
58:48
it’s unfortunate in that sense and you
58:51
know keep in mind I grew up listening to
58:52
NWA right and I recited just about every
58:56
single song word for word just play me
58:58
the beat and I’ll do the whole damn song
59:00
right and if you really listen to NWA’s
59:05
first album you it’s it’s a cut it’s
59:07
anti violence and anti drugs because
59:10
they’re telling you if you do X Y & Z
59:13
you’re gonna end up like this particular
59:15
guy or that particular guy you know
59:17
that’s like the theme song that’s the
59:19
theme to dope man and if you listen to
59:22
dope man from the front to the end right
59:24
selling do that go work at the post
59:25
office right right right exactly
59:27
exactly yeah so I was the white kid that
59:30
would listen to gangsta rap music on my
59:32
way to like you know oh yeah but I bet
59:36
you know on my way to like cuz I had a
59:37
website design company that I started
59:39
when I was a kid and and so you know I’d
59:40
go on my way to meet my client I’m
59:42
listening to you know flipmode squad or
59:44
whatever the hell was on there Master P
59:45
or whatever and you know angriest music
59:47
and then get out of the car like hey
59:48
everybody so um I actually read an
59:52
interesting thing about this since we’re
59:53
talking about cultural stuff that part
59:56
of the reason that there is the level of
59:57
violence over like you were saying silly
59:59
stuff like scuffed shoes and things like
60:01
that is that coming out of slavery
60:03
segregation all of those things that
60:06
there was such a I guess a scare
60:10
city of respect for people especially
60:12
men in the black community that any
60:15
perceived disrespect would would be more
60:18
likely to set them off because they
60:19
weren’t being respected in any other
60:21
aspect of their lives or in society at
60:23
large and so they unlike me if someone
60:27
disrespects me more often and I’m like
60:28
yeah whatever I don’t really care unless
60:30
it’s like you’re really like trying to
60:32
like harm me or my family or especially
60:34
if you’re insulting someone I care about
60:35
but me I’m like I’ll probably just laugh
60:37
it off but I also haven’t dealt with a
60:39
level of being disrespected on a
60:41
societal level do you think there’s
60:42
anything to that I think there’s a lot
60:45
to that now interesting factoid about me
60:48
is I belong to the first generation of
60:51
black Americans I fucking hate the term
60:54
African Americans by the way I’m the
60:56
first person of black Americans that
60:58
didn’t grow up under slavery or Jim Crow
61:00
my father and mother graduated from high
61:03
school in 1968 in Mobile Alabama oh and
61:07
that was the height of the this stuff so
61:11
there was there was a cultural element
61:15
that was were when we were under Jim
61:18
Crow were and I dislike using this term
61:22
but it’s the only one I could think of a
61:24
common enemy which was the government
61:26
that sanctioned
61:27
apartheid Jim Crow social engineering
61:30
right and from that point forward once
61:35
we were relieved of that the next step
61:39
with the government undertook in it and
61:40
it’s been a document in fact by one of
61:42
the chief architects of the war on drugs
61:45
the Nixon administration brought about
61:49
the war on drugs to extend the Jim Crow
61:52
era policies of the United States
61:54
government right and that in itself
61:58
combined with the social engineering of
62:01
the do-gooder liberals by putting all
62:04
these poor people in this condensed
62:07
housing combined poor education combined
62:11
with over policing combined with the
62:15
welfare state whereas the father if he
62:17
was in the home you wouldn’t receive
62:19
these benefits so you actually had to
62:23
hide your dad Oh your dad can live with
62:26
you because you wouldn’t see these
62:29
benefits but at the same time you’re not
62:31
in the position to advance yourself
62:34
economically because your education with
62:37
subpar right you know there’s a lot of
62:40
mitigating factors that we we have to
62:42
look at to see the disposition of the
62:45
black community and you know they I I am
62:49
a constant peruse er of websites like
62:53
Stormfront
62:54
and these are these far-right websites
62:57
because I like to hear they’re a peak
62:59
yeah I think they’re in it needs to be
63:02
heard it needs to be validated in in the
63:05
sense that they had their chance to
63:07
prove or display their point of view
63:10
based on their beliefs but it doesn’t
63:13
necessarily mean that’s right of course
63:14
but you know when they say they blame
63:17
the culture I was like what culture are
63:19
you talking about when did black people
63:21
have a culture in this country that was
63:26
aimed at prosperity prosperity and
63:30
bringing about a mending into this
63:35
society on equal terms and they say well
63:39
I don’t know and I was like well yes
63:40
there was there was a 10-year period
63:42
after this civil war that extended into
63:45
the early 1900s actually so it was a
63:49
little bit more than ten years but there
63:50
was a Labour’s like we call like the
63:52
glory glory area that ten-year period
63:54
where black communities were some of the
63:59
most prosperous in America if you were
64:02
to google race riots of the 1890s to
64:06
like the 1920s you will see what
64:09
happened to most of those communities
64:12
they were destroyed and then that was
64:14
further propagated with Jim Crow going
64:16
into the war on drugs which has not
64:19
ended because one of the few things
64:21
Obama did that I was like all right you
64:24
did something good was the ten to one
64:27
ratio there was 10 years to one year for
64:30
crack cocaine to powder cocaine meaning
64:33
if Alice per ounce yeah one ounce of
64:36
crack
64:36
one ounce of powder cocaine you will get
64:38
10 years for that crack and one year for
64:41
that powder cocaine right and that’s an
64:45
obvious discrepancy in the law for
64:47
obvious reasons for anybody who
64:48
understands the United States judicial
64:51
system right exactly it was most type of
64:54
things and I’m not blaming it on that
64:56
because I think it’s primarily education
64:58
is that working the field of education
65:00
this is my last point I work in the
65:02
field of education and every year we
65:04
have to do an audit of our schools by
65:08
the county because of a lawsuit that
65:10
happened many years ago whereas the the
65:14
county goes into your schools and make
65:16
sure every student has a safe and clean
65:19
classroom environment and school
65:21
environment will have all the materials
65:23
prescribed by the curriculum in the
65:25
state of California and they have
65:27
everything they need for a the
65:30
educational process that lawsuit a sperm
65:34
on the fact that the it was I don’t know
65:38
if it was Los Angeles Unified but some
65:39
parents from the Southern California
65:41
area school to their school district
65:44
because their schools were run down
65:46
while the schools in the wealthier more
65:49
affluent neighborhoods were for kept and
65:51
all the materials were present right
65:53
right so when you look at where the
65:56
black community fails the number one
65:58
place is the most basic of education to
66:02
me right yep no absolutely and I mean
66:05
when you see this pervasive idea that
66:08
although I’ve noticed it gets fought
66:09
back against more and more but I
66:11
remember growing up at least when you
66:14
would have a black person that would
66:15
move down from the north and they would
66:16
talk more like me than like the other
66:18
southern black people there and they
66:20
would all say why are you talking white
66:21
and I will say I’ve noticed in the last
66:23
few years there’s been real pushback
66:25
against the idea that there’s such a
66:26
thing as you know talking black are
66:28
talking white but when I was growing up
66:30
that was like the thing if you didn’t
66:32
talk a certain way and so you had black
66:33
people from up north who talked more
66:35
like this than I did who were
66:37
intentionally trying to talk black so
66:40
that they wouldn’t be given such a hard
66:41
time in school so it’s great it’s crazy
66:45
stuff but um anyway I I’m gonna go ahead
66:48
literally what happened to me
66:49
with the colors in Alabama oh they like
66:53
what you talk so proper it’s crazy stuff
66:59
it is it is crazy stuff so we had some
67:01
interesting follower questions that I
67:05
want to go over with you one was so one
67:09
was you’re the other black guy who likes
67:12
guns who would so there was actually a
67:14
debate here between who was the I guess
67:17
first black guy who likes guns um Pete
67:20
like the black guy and it was kind of a
67:22
battle between Maj Toure and colione
67:24
noir but I think it’s cooling on noir
67:26
right correct that’s who I are the other
67:30
two it was actually my friend Dmitri
67:33
because I originally made India to
67:35
Matthew shadow and he was like no
67:36
because every time we would have these
67:38
debates on contraband they would call me
67:43
the more radical Colleoni war because
67:47
I’m not constrained by corporate money
67:49
or anything so I would say precisely how
67:52
I feel I feel and because people out
67:54
shit like that
67:55
so that’s why they say oh yeah you’d
67:57
like the other guy that like black guys
67:58
that likes guns terrorists so I was
68:02
basically on ok and so that was I
68:05
assumed as much because I’m thinking
68:07
like March 2 race only been around a
68:08
year or two and you’ve been around
68:09
longer than that so I was like I’m
68:10
pretty sure it’s it’s someone older than
68:12
that so owed me a shirt I bought a shirt
68:15
from him like two years ago I never got
68:17
my shirt so who Marco Leung nice okay
68:21
well I will I will let him know um so
68:24
another question someone said so another
68:27
question related to it so someone said
68:28
um they asked your thoughts on so I
68:31
don’t know how much you follow political
68:34
libertarian stuff but Mazda is running
68:36
as a Congress or running in City for
68:40
City Council for Philadelphia
68:41
libertarian and he made some comments
68:43
about I guess anti-immigrant comments
68:46
and we got a ton of people who wanted to
68:49
know I guess because you’re also black
68:51
and also like guns if you agree with him
68:54
on immigration I think um immigrants
69:00
need to do things the right way that’s
69:01
where my father-in-law
69:02
he did things the right way he came here
69:04
legally if this is a very sore subject
69:10
in the black community and by no means
69:12
do I represent all of the black
69:13
community right but traditionally in
69:17
those black neighborhoods the people who
69:21
have work at the low-paying entry-level
69:23
jobs were were black and now you’re
69:26
seeing more Latino and Hispanic people
69:29
coming into those jobs and you know
69:31
black people being boxed out and that’s
69:34
the reason why a lot of black people
69:35
have a problem with immigration because
69:38
at the end of the day the first people
69:40
who not I don’t want to say lose their
69:44
jobs but the first people economically
69:47
impacted are the people or the lower
69:48
rungs of the economic ladder right and
69:51
oh that’s unfortunately that’s been a
69:54
traditional realm of the black society
69:58
in this country so I understand where
70:02
they’re coming from but I do not believe
70:04
the rhetoric that produces hate at the
70:07
end of the day now is the right one to
70:11
put your message forward because like it
70:15
or not because it are it’s already
70:17
happen in California California leading
70:19
the way Latinos make up the majority and
70:25
if you look at birth rates among blacks
70:28
and whites ours are actually decreasing
70:31
while Asians and Latinos are expanding
70:34
at a tremendous rate so these people
70:37
especially with social media then
70:40
everything lasts forever nothing ever
70:42
goes away so it’s better to meet at the
70:45
table and discuss how can we mutually
70:49
find a beneficial relationship versus
70:53
rhetoric that may come back to haunt you
70:56
when you’re instead of playing you know
70:59
it’s basically playing checkers right
71:01
like this is yeah one especially when
71:04
not only are they coming at you know
71:07
most immigration right now is is either
71:09
Latino or Asian and they are like you
71:12
said having more children especially so
71:13
a one group that gets left out a lot is
71:16
Indian
71:16
Americans who not only are coming at
71:19
large rates and having large households
71:20
they are already the largest they
71:23
already have the highest per in per
71:25
person income of any demographic
71:27
included there they’re actually
71:28
neck-and-neck with white Jews um they’re
71:31
there
71:32
so I read they’re there and I mean
71:35
you’re you’re in California so you would
71:36
you would know as well as anyone else
71:38
they’re coming here on mass there’s a
71:40
billion of them in their home country
71:42
they’re having lots of children here and
71:43
they’re having lots and lots of money
71:45
too because they’re starting businesses
71:47
and everything else keep going you know
71:49
extrapolate that out a generation or two
71:51
you’re gonna have a very very large
71:53
minority of people who also are
71:56
incredibly wealthy so you know be
71:59
careful you’re talking about these
72:00
people because Ivy right now there’s
72:02
only a million or two of them but what
72:03
happens when there’s 20 million of them
72:05
and they have half the country’s wealth
72:07
yeah well it’s expected within my
72:10
lifetime and I’m about I’m close to
72:13
halfway done that this country will be a
72:17
majority brown country right and I think
72:20
that’s where a lot of the fear in these
72:22
these right-wing you know the
72:25
Charlottesville Jews when I replaces all
72:27
these guys I think that’s a fear oh yeah
72:30
yeah that these minorities and people
72:33
may treat them like they treated like
72:37
they treated them exactly yes you know I
72:40
think that’s the core belief of their
72:42
fear but I don’t see that going forward
72:47
in the kids because the kids my kids are
72:51
mixed and you know they’ve gotten
72:53
everything from are you Asian to to
72:56
white right in their black seekin and
73:01
well the little known fact is Los
73:03
Angeles it was founded by blacks Eakins
73:06
it was like general Pico was the he was
73:10
half black half Mexican general that
73:12
helped found it he’s in one of the main
73:14
news that founded this this city out
73:17
here okay you know we need to understand
73:20
that at the end of the day we all want
73:24
the same thing it’s everybody wants the
73:27
same thing they want peace they want to
73:30
be able to
73:30
raise their family and have a nice long
73:33
life and died with their grandkids and
73:36
great-grandkids around them knowing that
73:38
they will prosper going forward
73:41
everybody wants that so why can’t that
73:45
be the common goal instead of you know
73:48
cuz I want to talk about the
73:49
disappearing of certain cultures Western
73:52
culture euro culture or whatever culture
73:54
America whatever culture you want to
73:56
call it right but this this enterprise
73:59
of the United States has never been done
74:01
before
74:02
this isn’t your grand experiment in
74:05
democracy because you could look at most
74:08
countries they’re all homogeneous but
74:10
this country has never had an exclusive
74:14
monolithic culture that we could say
74:17
needs to be preserved because you know
74:20
I’m in here in Southern California and
74:23
like if it’s a nice night of partying
74:27
and drinking I’m like let’s go get some
74:28
tacos right oh oh if you guys do that in
74:32
South Carolina after a nice night of
74:34
drinking or whatever what’s your go-to
74:36
but that’s a cultural thing yeah so for
74:40
for them to portray their culture is
74:43
under siege number one is patently false
74:46
because culture is passed down through
74:48
family yeah it’s not a thing where you
74:54
know my neighbor next door on either
74:56
side we all practice the same culture
74:59
because that’s just this doesn’t happen
75:00
know if your culture is declining it’s
75:03
cuz no one wants to have kids with you
75:04
and and you should probably examine what
75:06
what’s causing that I and and this is
75:09
not new so when the large groups of
75:12
Germans and Scandinavians were coming to
75:14
the u.s. in the early 1800s the and back
75:18
then they were not considered white only
75:19
people of English Anglo minoan glish
75:24
northern French and northern German
75:27
ancestry were considered white everyone
75:29
else was European and so when these
75:31
Europeans were coming there were all
75:33
these warnings even Ben Franklin warned
75:35
about you know these these gutter people
75:36
from Germany and Scandinavia who are
75:39
coming to ruin everything and then later
75:41
on when the Irish people the Russian
75:43
people my peep
75:44
the Jews came we were foreign people
75:46
with foreign religions who were gonna
75:48
ruin everything and then after that it
75:50
was people then for a long time you know
75:53
it’s been Latin Americans and now that
75:54
it’s shifting more towards Asians you
75:57
know and and and it’s always like
75:58
whatever group is coming
76:00
there’s someone complaining that America
76:02
is changing but America has always been
76:03
changing it’s like you said no one a
76:05
hundred and fifty years ago was saying
76:07
hey let’s go get tacos unless you were
76:09
in maybe California or like the border
76:11
area of Texas no one in South Carolina
76:13
was getting tacos or pizza or Chinese
76:16
food or hummus or any of the things we
76:19
like you know I have a black Canadian
76:22
immigrant wife we dance salsa we get
76:24
tacos afterwards we hang out with people
76:26
from all different you know races and
76:28
religions whatever culture that is it’s
76:32
a good one and we also have a home in
76:34
Toronto where I am literally it’s one of
76:37
the wealthier suburbs in Toronto I am
76:39
the only white person in that
76:41
neighborhood it is mostly Indians
76:44
Pakistanis a lot of West Indians so like
76:47
people from bar Barbados like my wife’s
76:49
family is Jamaicans these are wealthy
76:52
people they’re wealthy Canadians they
76:54
came they have their you know thick
76:55
accents from whatever countries they
76:57
came from their parent their kids talk
76:59
like my wife does they said they all
77:00
sound like Canadians so a lot of that
77:02
rinses out in the wash anyway but the
77:05
people who are scared the ones that I
77:07
find who are the most scared it’s like
77:09
you said the ones were the most scared
77:10
of being replaced are the ones who treat
77:12
other people the most shitty because
77:15
they’re scared that when someone else
77:17
becomes the majority they’re gonna be
77:19
treated the way that they’ve been
77:21
treating everyone else which tamizha had
77:23
stopped treating people that way no this
77:26
is a cycle of the half a end and I might
77:29
add to that that us black Americans were
77:32
the only ones that were truly invited to
77:34
come to this country everybody’s they
77:36
everybody else just came unannounced
77:38
we were wanted and invited so we came
77:41
here you know under an invitation
77:44
everybody else was an intruder going
77:47
back to the inception of this country
77:48
right I mean that’s that’s an awful
77:52
interesting way to talk about the
77:54
transatlantic slave trade to say you
77:56
were invited I guess that’s a way of
77:57
wording it
77:59
now that that is my sarcastic nature but
78:02
yeah I I enjoy
78:06
I don’t truly know what my culture is
78:10
because in Alabama you know we get up in
78:14
the morning and it’s it’s fishing grits
78:17
you know and I come here in California
78:20
for breakfast
78:22
it’s chorizo and eggs you know right
78:25
right in that’s a cultural thing and the
78:28
only thing that stopped like I said the
78:30
only thing that’s stopping your culture
78:32
from progressing and moving forward is
78:34
you so your mindless complaints and tiki
78:38
torch parades I found it so comical you
78:42
know that these people who still control
78:46
the judicial system and ultimately
78:48
that’s what government comes down to
78:50
because that’s the way they mainly
78:52
oppress people is through this was
78:54
that’s correct yeah when you control
78:58
that what are you truly afraid of what
79:00
are you truly worried about is is are
79:04
you scared black cops are gonna like my
79:06
best friend he was somewhat militant in
79:10
college he went to Cal Berkeley and he
79:15
ended up going to the Marines and he’s
79:17
actually an officer in the Marines now
79:18
and he’s a cop
79:19
and he says he deals with a lot of
79:22
racism and he’s a sergeant and
79:25
everything from a lot of people he works
79:28
with but he doesn’t view that as
79:31
something where I need to go out there
79:33
and extract my personal racist views on
79:38
other people he’s like you know what the
79:40
only way we’re gonna move past this it
79:42
was by moving past it right I don’t give
79:44
in affirmative action I don’t believe in
79:46
special rules for anybody um I I in and
79:51
that’s the thing in California I just
79:52
did that that show about where
79:54
California goes the nation goes because
79:57
they’re teaching kindergarteners about
80:00
gay history and transgender is and I’m
80:03
like my kids had enough trouble learning
80:06
their side words and making sure they in
80:08
California you’re expected to read out a
80:10
kindergarten now
80:11
versus ones in school is first a second
80:14
grade you’re expected to learn how to
80:15
read so the there’s very high
80:17
expectations and not all these kids
80:19
there’s this this parable about
80:22
education whereas the lesson is to climb
80:25
this big tall tree you have a monkey
80:27
it’s Raph an elephant a leopard a goat
80:31
and let’s say an eagle right OH these
80:36
animals are supposed to climb that tree
80:38
that’s what our educational system is
80:40
right now something we’re well-equipped
80:42
to climb that tree but others are
80:45
well-equipped to do stuff on the ground
80:48
better than the ones that could climb
80:50
the tree right exactly so that’s where
80:54
you know we look at a culture society
80:57
and we everybody’s trying to fit you and
80:59
plug you into a box and I’m like be
81:02
yourself propagate your culture as you
81:04
see fit when there’s our iris parade
81:07
goal your iris parade right that’s how
81:09
you extend your culture that’s how you
81:12
keep the the your forefathers our life
81:15
and why are you concerned about what
81:18
other people are doing right yeah no
81:21
it’s the matter it’s the marketplace of
81:22
ideas and we have an Oktoberfest every
81:24
year maybe 10% of the people there are
81:26
German but yeah everyone’s dressing up
81:30
like Heidi and Gretel and Hansel or
81:31
whatever the tale with the trick and I
81:34
don’t even know what that clothing is
81:36
called that the tall socks and the
81:38
buckle belts and buckled shoes and
81:40
everything like great you know because
81:43
people lederhosen that’s what lederhosen
81:45
but I used to agree on the on the
81:47
immigration thing that you know they
81:49
need to go through the legal process the
81:50
more time I after having my wife go
81:53
through the legal process seeing what a
81:55
thieving mess it is and then also
81:58
realizing like these are the same people
82:00
that can’t run the DMV do I really want
82:02
them deciding who can and can’t come
82:04
here I really like at this point I mean
82:07
I’m also pretty much I mean I’m an
82:08
anarchist at this point so I don’t think
82:10
the government should be doing anything
82:11
but I when I see these people coming
82:13
here I get what you’re saying
82:15
so especially black people and people
82:17
that are lower income they’re now
82:18
directly competing with people that just
82:20
got here who are willing to work for
82:21
Less their enemy isn’t that immigrant
82:25
their enemy is a government that has
82:27
throw taxes and regulations and labor
82:29
regulations payroll taxes Social
82:31
Security taxes wage laws and everything
82:34
else priced them out of the market so
82:36
that someone can come in illegally and
82:38
take their job at you know half the half
82:40
the price the end the enemy in my mind
82:42
is the state not you know someone who
82:44
just got here is just trying to provide
82:45
for their family I get what you’re
82:46
saying but I also at this point when I
82:49
see the government not abiding by its
82:52
own rules they tell us what we can and
82:53
can’t do
82:54
while they you know just recently killed
82:56
a few dozen pine nut farmers in
82:58
Afghanistan and they just went sorry I
83:00
wouldn’t mean take we meant to kill
83:01
someone else sorry about that I don’t
83:04
really care what they think about people
83:05
coming here anymore you know well I
83:09
agree 100% with everything you said I
83:12
think you left off one point on the only
83:14
in the factors and that’s also foreign
83:16
policy cause if you look at these
83:18
current immigration waves that are
83:20
coming to come out from Central America
83:22
oh god I was about this today and people
83:25
were saying yeah it was the 80s there in
83:28
the Sandinistas and all that stuff homes
83:30
like no is more like the 1830s when the
83:33
Monroe Doctrine came into place and you
83:35
had these bananas the term Banana
83:37
Republic that’s where I came from cuz
83:39
Dole and all these other fruit companies
83:41
we’re down there just making sure their
83:44
marketplace with sounded secure so they
83:46
could import their product so they use
83:48
the the money and influence that they
83:52
peddle to in Washington DC to get these
83:56
foreign policies in place that has left
83:59
that region a literal clusterfuck for
84:02
what almost it’s approaching 200 years
84:06
now it’s 180 underneath some years that
84:09
that region has been manipulated and to
84:14
making sure the economic interest of the
84:17
United States superseded the liberties
84:20
and rights of the people that actually
84:22
live there and with that unstable nature
84:25
of their home governments just you know
84:30
when you have to worry about your
84:32
government and criminals killing you
84:34
yeah me that would make me want to leave
84:37
was to and taste some different measures
84:39
for you walk all the way up to United
84:44
States is a bold and courageous of
84:47
defiance in itself yeah but you’re
84:50
saying I’m not going to survive and
84:53
these under these circumstances under
84:55
this totalitarian government I’m gonna
84:57
take my chances going through a foreign
84:59
land and hopefully hoping I can get to
85:02
somewhere where I can provide my set my
85:04
family the basic of necessities they’re
85:07
not seeking and health per se because
85:11
the vast majority of these people are
85:13
hardworking individuals that you know I
85:16
see on the daily basis in their and with
85:19
their children and ours in our school
85:21
system you talk to these teachers
85:23
they’ll tell you the best kids in these
85:26
schools are the first generation
85:28
immigrant kids oh yeah because they
85:30
still have our old world culture of
85:31
respect yeah yeah yeah the American kids
85:34
are literal Jack I can’t tell you how
85:37
many times per day I’ll go into a
85:39
classroom and I’ll tell their kid stop
85:42
looking at me pay attention to your
85:43
teacher and he’ll mouth off well it’s
85:46
off to his teacher I’ve heard kids use
85:48
every customer that I know and one
85:49
sentence that a teacher and if I had
85:52
done that that teacher would have took
85:53
me to the principal the principal might
85:55
because California just got rid of
85:57
corporal punishment in the I think was
86:00
the early 90s for public schools they
86:02
still exist in private schools right
86:04
right
86:05
but my greatest fear was them calling my
86:08
parents and telling them what I did or
86:09
said exactly exactly these kids nowadays
86:13
because I used to coach youth sports
86:15
these parents want to be friends with
86:17
their kids and they want the cool kids
86:19
that you know that say all the catchy
86:21
phrases and know all the lyrics to some
86:24
stupid fucking rap song when they’re
86:26
three years old right and then parade
86:29
them around or other people will act
86:31
like a little jackass and they get to
86:32
school and they make everybody else
86:34
experience shitty because they don’t
86:36
know how to act
86:37
in a reasonable manner because their
86:38
parents wanted the cool kid cry so then
86:42
that goes back to American culture if
86:45
that’s the type of culture that we’re
86:46
trying to protect fuck that shit
86:48
exactly thank you if our
86:51
culture is is you know people listening
86:53
to mumble wrap and then mumbling at
86:56
their teachers and their parents don’t
86:58
do anything cuz they’re high too and
86:59
like you know and and immigrants are
87:02
coming and bringing like old world
87:04
values okay well I guess they’re gonna
87:06
replace us then because here’s the thing
87:07
we’re not having kids so if we’re not
87:09
having kids they’re having kids they’re
87:11
teaching their kids to be respectful
87:12
what the hell do we have to complain
87:14
about it’s it trips me out but like you
87:17
said you have rent-seeking corporations
87:19
that Lobby the government to destabilize
87:21
other parts of the planet that then
87:23
makes those people come here to get away
87:25
from our policies because they’re pretty
87:27
sure we won’t bomb them if they’re here
87:29
or you know DNA belies their neighbors
87:31
yes sir if they’re here so it’s like
87:33
we’re like you know if you’re playing a
87:34
game of tag we’re like you know a safe
87:36
spot where they can’t tag you or
87:38
whatever people who are relatively
87:39
comfortable tend to stay where they are
87:42
even if they’re told something’s better
87:44
somewhere else so even if your honors if
87:46
you’re a subsistence farmer in Nicaragua
87:50
and you know you’re not living a great
87:52
life but you know your your needs are
87:55
met you live in it you you feel
87:56
relatively safe and secure you’re not
87:59
starving to death your government’s not
88:01
trying to kill you because you’re in the
88:02
wrong tribe or the wrong political party
88:04
or wrong whatever there isn’t some
88:06
cartel that’s trying to destroy you to
88:08
take your land or whatever you’re
88:10
probably and someone tells you yeah you
88:11
know you could make more money in
88:13
America they think I’m not gonna go to
88:14
all the way to America I don’t know
88:15
anyone there the culture is different
88:17
but I’m just gonna stay here the people
88:19
who are like you said they’re not coming
88:21
over here for food stamps they’re coming
88:23
over here to escape their you know
88:26
terrible situations that were they’re
88:27
facing you know imminent death and yeah
88:30
once they’re here and they’re told yeah
88:31
we’ll give you you know free stuff okay
88:33
great yeah sure why not it you want you
88:36
and I would do the same thing if we just
88:38
you know you know traveled you know
88:40
2,000 miles to escape you know almost
88:43
certain death and then we’re told we can
88:44
get free housing oh good um but so I
88:47
mean what’s that so you kind of meet
88:51
some where they live right I got nothing
88:53
so you want to give me a free house
88:54
great um yeah my thing is if you got rid
88:58
of the war on drugs if you got rid of
89:00
the welfare state and if you got rid of
89:02
all the barriers to entry that make
89:04
America
89:05
in labor unaffordable most of our
89:07
objections to immigration legal or
89:09
otherwise would tend to go away but
89:11
anyway we have some more questions here
89:13
they’re all gun questions now where do
89:15
you stand on the 9-millimeter versus 45
89:18
debate I like slow and fat you know I
89:23
mean but the current ballistics on
89:26
9-millimeter rounds especially with the
89:29
plus B’s and all that stuff they kind of
89:31
lend credence to more rounds versus
89:35
bigger rounds to be honest with you I
89:38
was a complete 9-millimeter hater yeah
89:43
cuz I got shot at one time and the
89:46
bullet I had a 1990 100 cord the
89:49
9-millimeter round went through the back
89:52
windshield went through the foam molded
89:55
headrest in the back seat and lodged in
89:57
my driver’s side headrest right and I
90:01
was like that’s a weak-ass round so I
90:04
didn’t literally I haven’t and you know
90:07
that was way back when I agree see I
90:10
bought a 9-millimeter pistol last year
90:12
that was a my first my first was a 40
90:14
caliber and then I went to a 45 so now I
90:17
have a 9-millimeter because the
90:19
ballistics have improved to the point
90:21
because I believe in maximum number of
90:24
rounds as well as shot placement because
90:27
you just never know the nature of the
90:29
threat so I’m leaning I’m like 60/40
90:33
9-millimeter right now okay all right
90:36
fair enough I was taught to hate 9
90:37
millimeters growing up my dad’s like
90:39
that’s a garbage round it’s for kids you
90:41
know it’s what you’re gonna learn to
90:42
shoot with growing up but then you’re
90:44
gonna get real adult round I before I
90:46
lost all my weapons in a tragic day at
90:48
sea I have a terrible bottom of the sea
90:52
Marianas Trench net I’ll never get them
90:54
it’s terrible I had a desert eagle 357
90:58
Magnum and because just because I’m like
91:02
you know maximum penetration and then
91:04
now they’re telling me the ballistics of
91:05
9 millimeters are comparable and I’m
91:07
like well that sucks as hell all that
91:12
rest damage for no reason exactly
91:14
although it desert eagle is so heavy
91:16
there’s almost no recoil but yes if
91:18
we’re a 9mm
91:19
I could probably fire it with my pinky
91:20
so someone asked which side are you on
91:23
in the a K versus AR versus SKS debate
91:28
ak-47 100% my first rifle semi-automatic
91:34
semi-automatic rifle was an SKS because
91:38
I believe in the 7 62 by 39 round
91:42
completely I also believe that SKS is
91:45
more accurate than the ak-47 but the
91:48
round limitation because California has
91:50
some very specific laws on SKS’s that
91:54
was the only one they were able to get
91:56
stick through challenges in court
91:58
because they difficulty set the SKS so
92:02
ones that we can own here only hold ten
92:05
rounds but with these stripper clips and
92:08
whatnot and the effective range of it
92:11
I think the SKS is a better rifle as far
92:16
as accuracy and range but the
92:19
intimidation factor or somebody seizing
92:22
seeing you going to a firing position
92:24
holding a ak-47 and you may be behind
92:27
the cinderblock wall that intimidation
92:29
factor cannot be replicated with a ar-15
92:33
because I refer back to the North
92:37
Hollywood shootout I don’t know if you
92:38
recall that word yeah Robert yeah yeah
92:41
yeah well they they had both a FAL and
92:49
ak-47 but there was a group of police
92:51
officers that were behind a cinderblock
92:53
wall and they were firing out on one of
92:56
the guys and he saw them when they were
92:57
firing he turned and fired upon them and
92:59
his rounds were going through that
93:02
cinderblock wall like it wasn’t shit and
93:04
they were catching strapped in the
93:05
wounds and took them out of the fight I
93:06
was like from that point forward I was
93:09
sold yeah because you know I’ve heard
93:11
stories have been going through
93:12
telephone poles and the thing how you
93:15
rate a ak-47 is accurate enough but the
93:20
wound factor in that round whereas you
93:23
get hit in any extremity you there’s a
93:26
good chance you’re gonna bleed out
93:27
versus and combined with the fact you
93:29
get hit center mass you’re fucking
93:31
screwed
93:32
with the a K round right that’s I’m just
93:35
sold on it yeah there’s also something
93:38
to be said I had relatives that fought
93:40
in Vietnam and they said you know they
93:41
had m16s
93:42
which they were constantly having to
93:44
clean constantly having to oil
93:46
constantly having to take apart there
93:48
was constant jamming they had all sorts
93:50
of problems and they said you know the
93:52
the Vietcong you know they had an a K
93:53
that they could you know dig a hole in
93:55
the ground shove them all in the ground
93:56
and then pull them out and you start
93:58
firing them without even cleaning them
93:59
so there’s something I said about a gun
94:01
whose clearances are so much more loose
94:03
I guess is what it is that it’s a super
94:06
weapon that also you know maybe it’s not
94:08
as precise or as whatever but it also in
94:10
real world conditions where you’re not
94:12
constantly you know if I were ever ever
94:15
able to retrieve it from the ocean deep
94:17
I could probably start firing it again
94:19
as opposed to an AR which has probably
94:21
been disintegrated long ago yeah that’s
94:25
also combined with the fact that if
94:27
we’re talking about a real-world
94:29
situation where as a civilian was like
94:33
you and I were able to retrieve their
94:35
weapons from the depths of the deepest
94:37
parts of the ocean right most conflicts
94:40
urban conflicts and this was seen in
94:42
Iraq and Afghanistan where in less than
94:44
100 meters yeah you do want to place
94:47
shots on target but you also want to be
94:50
able to eliminate the target in a in a
94:54
manner relatively quickly and a K is the
95:00
perfect choice for that type of
95:03
situation I remember this one expert I
95:04
was watching some show on the History
95:06
Channel he’s alright you can go to Mars
95:08
and only could take one weapon with you
95:11
what would it be and he said ak-47 and
95:13
I’m like that’s precisely what I would
95:15
think to where the tolerant this and the
95:19
type of environment it actually fires
95:20
underwater whereas you know the
95:23
impingement system of a ar-15 would
95:26
probably just this soak the water ailing
95:28
you just sitting there with a sizable
95:31
club that would pretend a lot of
95:33
resistance as you swing it through the
95:35
volume of water right all right yeah no
95:38
I mean you’ve got people out here
95:39
fighting an actual hot Wars with guns
95:41
aks that are older than there
95:43
parents no one’s fighting with an m16
95:45
from Vietnam there are still people out
95:47
there fighting from Vietnam era a K so
95:50
here was an interesting question who do
95:52
you think was the most revolutionary
95:54
black person in US history that’s an
95:58
extremely tough question to answer
95:59
because my immediate thoughts were or
96:05
Marcus Garvey and Malcolm X but like
96:08
Stokely Carmichael yeah and a little
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group called the Deacons for defense
96:13
that were a armed branch of the civil
96:17
rights movement back in the 60s you know
96:20
those are the type of people that I look
96:23
to as is motivation because as with my
96:29
Jewish brethren I firmly believed never
96:32
again yeah and you know if you look at
96:34
drug control and you know I agree with
96:37
mass on a lot of points specifically
96:40
that all gun control is racist you know
96:42
Ronald Reagan didn’t start the the anti
96:46
Second Amendment culture with the the
96:49
Mumford Act that he signed and that was
96:53
because the Black Panthers went into the
96:56
Capitol building armed to the teeth
96:58
Turing s approach yeah least violence
97:02
and then to that point you know you look
97:05
at all these people who are saying that
97:06
why is everybody now just protesting
97:08
police violence why is compromise now
97:10
taking the knee and and all these black
97:12
lives matters and all this stuff this is
97:14
not a new phenomenon and that’s the
97:16
problem with Americans in history
97:18
history is a a linear pathway that we
97:24
travel and every once in a while we have
97:27
to look back at what happened because
97:30
you know that old saying those that
97:32
don’t know history are brown repeat the
97:33
state yeah yeah but you know if you look
97:37
back at why all of these people do what
97:40
they do and do what they did a lot of
97:42
those factors still exist today so like
97:44
yeah like Kwame Toure Stokely Carmichael
97:49
Marcus Garvey Malcolm X you know as far
97:53
as you know Martin Luther King I just
97:56
recently
97:56
to his Museum in Atlanta last year and
97:58
he was a very diminutive man he’s very
98:01
short
98:01
well I’m six five but a lot of people
98:03
sure to me but I was I was upset because
98:07
at some point you gotta say fuck you
98:11
let’s fight you know if you gotta go out
98:14
you got to go out but you gotta stand up
98:16
for yourself yeah that’s what I didn’t
98:17
like you know first of all Gandhi was a
98:20
fucking horrible racist son of a bitch
98:22
yes for him to like bobble himself after
98:27
somebody but Gandhi thought a lot less
98:29
of him then he thought of Gandhi and the
98:33
you know I’m all about you know let’s do
98:37
this in a peaceful manner because that
98:38
is my heart and soul but I also believe
98:41
that there’s a point where if your life
98:44
is directly threatened you need to be
98:46
the most violent motherfucker life if
98:48
you want to live and so that’s why I
98:51
gravitate more to those guys that
98:54
willing to like let’s go versus to turn
98:58
the other cheek fuck that you shot
99:00
another cheek well and that’s it if only
99:03
as a deterrent right like even if it’s
99:04
not I’m gonna kill all of you it’s I
99:06
will kill you if you do this to me so
99:09
don’t do it to me let’s find a peaceful
99:11
way to do it the first person that I
99:12
thought of when whenever I’m asked about
99:14
like you know the greats and in you know
99:17
the black revolutionaries and I’m like
99:19
well in my mind the first like effective
99:22
black revolutionary is nat turner and no
99:25
one likes to hear that no one likes to
99:28
hear that or very few people like to
99:30
hear that but he was the first black guy
99:33
that white people in power were actually
99:38
scared of up until then it was a
99:41
combination of you know hatred of fear
99:47
but fear but in like a sort of an
99:50
abstract sense like well you know we
99:51
can’t let these people free because
99:53
they’re a bunch of savages but not
99:54
actual fear of them they didn’t fear
99:55
them at all but I’m gonna go off on a
99:58
bit of a tangent my wife and I went to a
100:00
rice museum in Georgetown and they were
100:02
talking about the history of it’s
100:04
basically a slavery museum because it
100:05
was you know rice and and lavender and
100:08
stuff that they that they grew there
100:10
and they talked about the fact that at
100:12
the time black people slaves outnumbered
100:15
the white people the Free People
100:16
something like eight to one and they
100:18
showed the guns that they’d give the
100:20
slaves so that they could kill crows to
100:23
keep away from the crops and if they
100:24
killed the crow they’d be able to keep
100:25
the crow and that they and that many of
100:28
the the overseers were unarmed the white
100:31
overseers were unarmed and they would
100:34
give you know they give guns to the the
100:37
slaves throughout numbered the white
100:39
people so at one point black people who
100:42
owned guns outnumbered white people
100:45
period two to one in Georgetown and they
100:49
had the guns and their thought being
100:53
enslaved dying at half the age that the
100:55
white people did because they were being
100:57
forced to touch um wasn’t lavender um it
101:01
was what they used to make blue dye
101:02
maybe it was lavender but they would
101:03
actually get poisoned from it so they
101:05
died in their 20s while the white people
101:07
were living in their 50s at the time and
101:09
the only thing that these black people
101:11
were thinking because they were so
101:13
conditioned to it was oh wow he gave me
101:14
a gun I might be able to kill a crow
101:16
with it so they weren’t scared of black
101:20
people as I guess my only point uh you
101:23
know they weren’t scared of black people
101:24
nat turner made them scared and it
101:26
actually made them kind of think oh wait
101:28
a minute maybe we need to treat them we
101:30
need to and he actually and this is a
101:32
largely unknown part of southern slavery
101:35
history it was the nat turner brigades
101:37
that actually helped lead to some of the
101:40
rules that required some level of
101:44
treatment and welfare for for slaves so
101:47
up until then it wasn’t quite as strict
101:49
and it was actually triggered in part by
101:51
people saying if we don’t start treating
101:53
these people better they’re gonna all do
101:55
this and this was before the Civil War
101:57
before emancipation any of that before
102:01
Lincoln was even on the stage it was it
102:03
was almost it now they also then turn
102:05
around and crack down on on freed slaves
102:08
who were talking about ending slavery
102:09
but but another thing they did was start
102:12
treating their slaves with a little bit
102:13
more respect
102:14
not because they respected them but
102:16
because they actually feared oh wait a
102:17
second they could actually get guns and
102:19
start doing guerrilla warfare against us
102:21
and and you know we
102:24
soft flesh – we can we could we could
102:25
die today um so I I actually that was
102:29
the first person I thought of but um and
102:30
then the last follower grant today’s his
102:34
birthday by the way
102:34
is it really yeah what a dick happy
102:38
birthday nat turner so last question uh
102:41
from the follower and then I’m gonna do
102:43
the my fellow Americans
102:44
but the final my fellow Americans but
102:46
the last quote is there any part of
102:48
government that you think is necessary
102:50
and couldn’t be provided better by the
102:52
free market only because the free market
103:01
like our point of Blackwater and you
103:05
know they’re mindless killing of
103:07
innocent people but there needs to be a
103:12
standing military in the sense that
103:15
there are threats global threats that
103:17
the government has created and until
103:19
those global threats or have no law
103:24
until they no longer exist there needs
103:27
to be some sort of military to respond
103:31
in a defensive manner like I don’t
103:35
believe in offensive actions right
103:38
because uh you know our interest when
103:42
you you know you know the United States
103:44
is in the in the Middle East like hard
103:47
and we’re actually exporting oil which I
103:50
don’t understand if we have the
103:53
capability to export oil why do we need
103:57
to have our interests in the Middle East
104:01
when we could be a self-contained energy
104:03
producer right and oh I do believe we
104:07
need to have a military force capable of
104:09
responding to a imminent threat or
104:13
something to that regard but that’s the
104:15
only true everything else I’m not you
104:20
know it was funny when the FDA was shut
104:23
down as part of the government shutdown
104:24
last year in December and a winner last
104:27
winner yeah what he died but when
104:33
they’re in full force and fully
104:34
enforcing laws you know I think
104:37
more than two dozen people died last
104:39
year from eating fucked-up salads but
104:42
when they were off nobody died no one
104:45
died and there were no and there were no
104:46
there were no birds out either which
104:48
makes you wonder about the birds or
104:51
sighs yeah but um well yeah so it’s one
104:54
thing again like you said it’s one thing
104:55
to say you know we need a standing
104:57
military just to protect us from you
104:59
know defensive defensively against
105:01
threats I don’t think we doesn’t
105:02
necessarily need to protect the Saudi
105:04
Kingdom or or Israel which is Israel has
105:08
a per capita income comparable to like
105:12
France and Italy and in in Germany and
105:16
and the u k– like they’re like a
105:17
european level of prosperity and I’m a
105:21
Jew so I mean I I have nothing against
105:23
Israeli or you know the Israelis or the
105:25
you know I mean I have distant relatives
105:29
in Israel there’s no need for Americans
105:32
to be dying and fighting and killing to
105:35
protect a wealthy country that
105:38
themselves have a very impressive
105:39
military considering their sides there’s
105:41
no reason for that
105:42
yeah and and why every day we’re sitting
105:46
on what is it four billion dollars a day
105:47
it’s like would you feed your neighbors
105:49
kids before you fed you’re wrong yeah we
105:51
have all these needs and all these
105:54
problems here you know because I’m
105:56
completely against foreign aid yeah like
106:00
in a natural disaster some sort of
106:02
emergency because all that does is it
106:05
creates puppets and if you have to
106:08
borrow money to give it to somebody else
106:10
you know who does that in real life
106:12
right only good yes yeah
106:16
foreign aid was Ron Paul that said
106:18
foreign aid is the government robbing
106:21
poor people in the US to give to rich
106:24
wealthy people in foreign countries you
106:26
know cuz it’s not like it’s going
106:27
directly to poor people it’s going to
106:29
their governments who then become
106:31
corrupted by it so the whole thing they
106:32
mess but so you have been an amazing
106:36
guest before I let you go cuz this could
106:38
go on for literally hours I’ve had an
106:40
absolute blast haven’t you want I hope
106:42
you’ll you’ll come on again before I let
106:44
you know before I let you go I have a
106:46
segment called final my fellow Americans
106:48
where I give a guest 30 seconds which is
106:51
nowhere near enough time and I asked
106:53
them a question and they have to do it
106:55
in 30 I actually you can go past 30
106:58
seconds but I do time but so for your
107:01
question I’m going to give you 30
107:05
seconds and you will tell me your top
107:07
five rappers or rap groups and I will
107:10
also accept R&B; rap singers or B groups
107:13
either either way you put your top five
107:15
rappers or rap groups and then I’ll tell
107:17
you if you’re correct or not so let me
107:19
know when you’re when you’re ready to
107:20
get started I’m ready okay good all
107:23
right so final my fellow Americans 30
107:26
seconds on the clock
107:27
good luck starting now five top five
107:30
rappers and records a Tribe Called Quest
107:35
routine in waa del the funky homosapien
107:45
oh wow
107:48
I mean Ice Cube as a solo artist I’ll
107:57
give you a bonus one cuz that was five
107:59
I’ll give you a bonus one know what
108:01
myself if you likkle look up Markus
108:04
Matthews on Spotify or SoundCloud I’m on
108:09
soundcloud I posted up my shit from the
108:11
Maggie’s okay so bonus of yourself okay
108:13
so yourself what you say tribe I joined
108:16
the funky homosapien I haven’t heard
108:18
that name in a while
108:19
NWA Ice Cube as a solo artist and
108:22
wu-tang tree I I am okay with that list
108:30
that’s awesome yeah I’m okay with that I
108:33
mean I could probably you know I tend to
108:35
put bootay at the number one of
108:37
everything but yeah I’m good with that
108:42
list good job I know thank you um so no
108:48
that was good so um Marcus again this
108:51
has been an absolute blast and we have
108:53
your show in the show notes so
108:55
definitely guys check check Marcus out
108:56
before I let you go I’m gonna give you a
108:58
chance to give your final thoughts
108:59
anything that you think we haven’t had
109:01
we didn’t get a chance to discuss that
109:03
you want to talk about anything that you
109:05
have upcoming that you want to promote
109:07
any anything you want to talk about at
109:09
all as long as you want
109:11
Marcus Mathews the floor is yours first
109:15
of all I want to thank you for having me
109:17
on this is really cool
109:18
my family was excited for me my
109:21
co-workers and everything the only one
109:24
or the only thing I would like to like
109:26
really add to this great conversation
109:29
that we have is for my American fellow
109:34
Americans don’t be satisfied with your
109:37
government your government should be
109:40
working at the complete behest of you
109:43
yeah I heard somebody say one time the
109:46
only people who don’t have a lobbyist in
109:50
Washington DC or any of your state
109:53
capitals is the American people every
109:56
enterprise every industry every day
110:01
you could think of that is ran by a
110:04
corporation as a lobbyist that has your
110:08
congressman your senator your
110:10
president’s ear at their beck and call
110:12
based on the monetary givings of that
110:16
entity it set for you if you’re not
110:21
gonna hold your government accountable
110:23
for them miss spending your money or
110:26
them killing your fellow citizen we’re
110:30
all in the same line now some of us have
110:33
different positions in that line but
110:34
we’re all in the same line eventually
110:36
they’re gonna come around and pull your
110:39
number so when you see a guy like Botham
110:43
John get killed in his home while the
110:50
government sits here and makes excuses
110:52
and you were like well yeah the
110:53
government is right you can expect one
110:56
day that you or somebody you love to be
110:59
subject to the same treatment right and
111:01
you’re complicit you’re you’re complicit
111:07
actions without government to get away
111:10
with that it will touch you one day and
111:13
that’s all I really want to say is like
111:15
hold your government accountable you
111:17
can’t vote for the same people over and
111:20
over again and expect different results
111:21
everybody’s heard that shit before the
111:23
lesser two evils all that bullshit vote
111:26
for somebody new especially if you’re in
111:27
California California is a foregone
111:29
conclusion that no matter on the
111:32
national scale who you vote for is going
111:35
blue so why don’t you take your vote and
111:38
vote for a third party so they could at
111:40
least open up that stage to a third
111:43
person in the libertarian party whatever
111:45
it is so we can finally getting some
111:49
honesty out of these politicians because
111:50
they don’t have to be honest with you
111:52
all they have to do is the other guy on
111:54
the other side is wrong and that’s all
111:56
they do
111:57
so why not give your vote to somebody
111:59
who’s gonna make these people actually
112:01
bring forth ideas and not criticisms of
112:05
the guys on the other side so and live
112:08
free or die look free or die absolutely
112:12
Marcus thank you again sticker
112:15
I’m gonna talk with you during the outro
112:16
guys thank you again for tuning in for
112:19
to my fellow Americans I hope you had as
112:20
much of a blast tonight as I did
112:22
absolutely great guests be sure to tune
112:24
in next week next Tuesday for the
112:27
muddied waters of freedom where Matt
112:29
Wright and I will be parsing through the
112:31
week’s events like the sweet autumn
112:33
cherubs that we are I’m gonna have to
112:36
work on what we are but uh and then tune
112:39
in next Wednesday right here for my
112:41
fellow Americans I will be interviewing
112:42
my guest will be John Phillips who is
112:44
running he is Kim ruffs running mate
112:47
running for the nomination for president
112:50
and vice president under the libertarian
112:52
party and guys have a great week thanks
112:55
again for tuning in and god bless ya
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