(((My Fellow Americans))) #41: My Fellow ‘Muricans with Jason Lyon

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this is the third welcome to my fellow
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Americans I am literally spike Cohen I
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am so happy to have you here with me on
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what is basically our one-year
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anniversary ish it was the fifth it was
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supposed to be on the 4th and was on the
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fifth and now this is the third but bear
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with me this is the anniversary of the
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same week I think that’s how that works
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guys before I introduce my guest tonight
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I’d just like to take a minute to thank
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everyone for being a part of my fellow
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Americans for the past year when I was
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asked last June if I wanted to start
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doing a weekly show on muddy waters my
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initial reaction was a combination of
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the real excitement and existential
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dread mostly dread is mostly dread
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honestly I had to figure out how to host
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a show how to run the streaming software
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still figuring that out I didn’t know if
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anyone would even want to watch much
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less to be my guest the first couple
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shows were they were rough they were
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rough shows I loved watching them but
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holy hell where they rough but over time
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I have gotten the hang of it I think and
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it has come to be one of the biggest
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highlights of my life I love it it’s one
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of my favorite parts of the week doing
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this and muddy waters of freedom I love
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it and I love y’all individually and as
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a collective I love each and every one
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of you and all of you together so thanks
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again for hanging out with me every week
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or when you can thank you again and I
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love my guests too
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guys my guest tonight is the future of
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muddied waters media he is the future
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dare I say the future of libertarianism
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he holds the entire movement solely in
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his hands no pressure
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he is the host of mr. America the
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bearded truth on muddy waters media on
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Mondays and Fridays and he’s very active
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in the Libertarian Party he is the
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recently elected chair of the Green
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South Carolina County libertarian party
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he is I already said this the host of
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mr. America the bearded truth ladies and
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gentlemen please welcome to my fellow
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Americans mr. Jason Lyon Jason thank you
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thank you thank you it’s it’s truly a
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pleasure I mean you know I’ve been
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watching you for a while do I get do I
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get to do the long time watch our first
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time coming on yes do that way no it’s
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it’s truly an honor to come on and to
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share with you your your won almost your
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one-year anniversary I got to hold that
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against you we are a day shy so
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technically two days it’s an honor to be
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on here and you definitely definitely
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built up what’s in my hands like that
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hopefully don’t don’t
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yeah don’t get too too ahead of oh no no
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listen if America isn’t libertarian by
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the time I cross the border back into
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the states then I hold you personally
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responsible again okay not not a way
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that would evoke pressure I just want
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you to know that I I’d like for you and
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all of our Watchers and listeners to
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know that I have been growing this beard
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for roughly three weeks in anticipation
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of having you on just so you wouldn’t
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make me look like a prepubescent boy in
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comparison good I’ve been I’ve also been
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growing mind for about three weeks so
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we’re we’re right on par with each other
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I can tell it looks it looks good that’s
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a good that’s a good three weeks shadow
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there so guys be sure to comment with
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your questions and thoughts and REM
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you’re not REM so Jason and I will tell
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you if you are right or wrong brems our
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will to if he Tunes in need update them
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so we’ll tune in and wells we are
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absolutely wrong well we were wrong
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because REMS oh isn’t on well not REMS
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oh this is your first time as a guest as
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you said and the first question I asked
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new guest to my show is how did you
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reach your political beliefs would you
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say that it was kind of an aha moment or
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or a gradual evolution tell us about
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that it was definitely a gradual
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movement so growing up my entire family
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is is
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bread okay conservative
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through-and-through theater and family
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my grandfather served most of my uncle’s
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served my father served everyone
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everyone served in the meat in the
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military so we all had this this
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patriotism that just flowed through us
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right so I joined I joined the the Navy
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myself and who was on submarines went
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through and really one of the things
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that that got me into political thinking
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let alone my views was we had this smug
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guy that was on the boat and he was a
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Bernie bro and I just I looked at him
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and I was just like man you’re so smug
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you’re so annoying
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like I’m gonna do research just to
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figure out how to like beat you in your
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and so I started getting into it and
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then I was like I was looking at like
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the conservative side of things I was
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like oh well you know this this stuff is
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interesting it’s it’s yeah I believe in
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freedom and I believe in like the power
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of the individual you know the the basic
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concepts of the Constitution you know
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the right of freedom of speech the right
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of freedom of religion freedom of
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natural defense you know the Second
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Amendment privately et cetera et cetera
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and as I continue to to look into these
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things I realize I didn’t put a
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limitation on them and that’s what
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really separated me between or separated
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me from from what a Republican or what a
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conservative conservative I couldn’t
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yeah conservative was you know I I
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didn’t put a limit on it I said you are
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free to exercise your rights your
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natural rights and so started falling
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further and further down the the
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quadrant if you will and political
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compass down into the right on the
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compass yeah I am I am you know the last
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couple times I’ve been taking these
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these things it’s negative
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sorry it’s 98 negative 99 so I fell
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pretty far a radical and you know just
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fell in love with all the ideologies
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fall in love with Ron Paul went into the
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economics and
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you know the Austrian economics
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laissez-faire the you know the freedom
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and it really spun me up and really got
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me on on board with things and it
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brought me to where I am today where I I
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look at the government and I get I can’t
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find I can see the good intent but I see
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also the the results and and that’s what
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really brought me here and so it’s just
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the slow gradual pull straight down to
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the bottom right and and here we are
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today that’s awesome and I was when you
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first reached out to us about you know
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sharing each other show before you want
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muddy waters I started watching your
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show because I was like yeah sure that
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sounds good and I thought well let me
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actually watch this man’s content to
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make sure I’m not like you know cuz
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unfortunately there are people that you
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know Liberty this Liberty that or you
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know America or freedom and then you go
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on it’s like oh wow this guy’s a
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communist or a Nazi or what I like their
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concept of freedom is a lot different
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than ours so I went on and checked it
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out and I’m like yeah this is really
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good not only do I agree with it but
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it’s good and then that’s when I talked
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with Matt about bringing you on and I’m
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like we need to have him on so that
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we’re not just sharing each other stuff
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but like we’re all working together so
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I’m really glad that that you’re on tell
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us a little bit about what your for
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those who haven’t seen mr. America the
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bearded tooth first of all shame on you
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guys well shame on you all
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shame on you know I I don’t want to say
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I mean I don’t want to say well I do
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want to say it shame on you ivory every
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episode I tell you to tune in for the
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Shabbat episode of mr. America the
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bearded truth I say shabbat shalom
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it’s Jason Lyon he’s Gentile but it
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still should but still shabbat to me and
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then i totally tuned in on monday and
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you haven’t yet but for those who
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haven’t we’re gonna give them a pass for
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now tell them a little bit about your
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show what you do and what you’re what
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you’re trying to accomplish with it so
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if you take the muddy waters of freedom
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from tuesday nights
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the basic premise there i’m not nearly
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as funny as as spike in matt but the
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idea is is to talk about the principles
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and the philosophies around the current
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events maybe throw in some historical
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facts and and get a good understanding
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of what’s really going on
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and to be able to take all these topics
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the politics and the social issues and
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bring them back down to the individual
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to where you should come away from these
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these discussions and feel as if either
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a you’re becoming more emboldened or be
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you feel as if the the shackles have
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been tightened on you and you want to be
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in bold and you want to be empowered and
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to be able to have your Liberty right
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exactly much like much like what our
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founders wanted or whoever else so very
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cool yeah no I I love watching your show
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I tune in whenever I can
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which is every single time guys so do
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you do it too
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so this is in case anyone is just tuning
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in now this is the one-year anniversary
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ish its 361 three-day it’s the one-year
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we’re calling it the one you by next
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Wednesday it will have already been more
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than one years it will be 1.01 years and
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so that just doesn’t seem so I’d rather
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do it on the point nine nine one years
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so for this one year episode what we’re
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what we’re this one-year anniversary
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what we’re doing is we have gotten a
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bunch of questions and we apparently
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have more that are streaming in in the
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comments as well so that’s really cool
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so we’ll be we’ll be answering those as
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well as we get to these but we have a
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bunch of questions so are you cool with
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starting off on these absolutely let’s
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uh let’s get into it
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cool so how I’ll do this is I will um
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I’ll ask the question who it’s from and
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everything and then I’ll let you answer
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and then I’ll I’ll give my take or I’ll
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just say I agree with you because
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there’s a good chance that will happen a
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lot where I’ll just say yeah let me say
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it a little bit differently so I’m not
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just saying this over and over again but
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basically yes so this first question is
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from a follower of ours on periscope and
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he says or she says I don’t want to seem
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genders but this individual person human
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says I thought it would be interesting
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to discuss the libertarian slash men our
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kiss view on Veterans Health Care I know
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you’ve covered it before but maybe not
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like this as the military is an
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essential part of the constitutionally
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defined government and many vets need
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care due to their service I can do some
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of the respond
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I was speaking with a friend who
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unfortunately is a dumb Democrat and is
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mired in basic arguments such as all
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things provided by the government is
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socialism but it got me thinking about
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this at least I know that one
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libertarian idea is to send funds into
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an account for use in the marketplace
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which is interesting
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are there other solutions proposed by
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libertarians and men arcus and do them
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in Arcis and libertarians differ on
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those and what of health care that is
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unrelated to military service where is
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the line drawn what is covered there’s a
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lot of questions in here but it’s all
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kind of the general saying what is
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covered now by the VA now seems
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complicated from an outside view I was
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wondering if allocating funds wouldn’t
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the amount still need to be approved
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based on the type of care needed thank
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you all right so there yes lots of
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questions in there answer all of them
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right now
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yeah yeah I want to give some clarifying
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things there
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Minoru ism is actually as a part of
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libertarianism there’s right give the
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quick umbrella there’s libertarianism
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treat that as the umbrella treat that
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the same as sa Christianity right you
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have Catholicism you have Protestant
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under the only yeah with libertarianism
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you have min Ark is Amit is small small
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minut government you have anarchism
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which is no government and then you have
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classical liberals so there’s there’s a
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spectrum there much like your genders or
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autism and so within these that you have
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different bearings of how much
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government that is supposed to be there
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now when it comes to the military and
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and that whole debacle and how we cover
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for health care which is important all
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three of them can easily I think agree
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on the idea of a voluntary system where
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where we the people say you know I even
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government even though is your fault
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government for all these endless wars
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that we’ve been in even though it’s your
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fault that so many of our troops have
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PTSD and are suffering eternally and
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committing suicide at very high rates we
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can we can foot the bill by it through
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voluntary means but as for as for the
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premise of how we do it within the
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confinements of the government that that
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structuring of of moving towards a
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school choice if you will right kind of
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like system where the veteran gets to go
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and get health care in a private system
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but it’s funded through the through the
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means of how the government would have
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been funding the VA that would be a much
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better system than what we have now it
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there’s the military being socialist I
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agree with your friend I I have to
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anything that the government really is
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is structuring and providing the means
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and and giving a lot of this a lot of
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the goods there to the it’s hard to
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dispute that it’s socialism if ever that
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it’s not socialism yeah yeah so my and I
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I agree with that I I love how the
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premise of the question was prefaced
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with this is form in Turkish I only want
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men are kiss the answer but I get it
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because the anarchists quite answer is I
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don’t want any of this to happen right
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so I am an inner kiss but I can I am
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qualified to give them in or kissed
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answers I have a men are kissed
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answering license right here boy you got
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a license for that license right here is
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it a napkin that says I do it I want
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yeah I have this license it’s Canadian
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but I do have a license it’s fresh and I
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just got it in the mail it says it’s
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okay yeah you’re gonna have to trust me
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on that
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it does yeah anyway yes license is in
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Canada is a nation of laws and I have
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all my licensing in place but so the
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mineral kissed standpoint is that
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government is a necessary evil it is
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evil but it’s necessary that it has to
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be kept to very basic functions and one
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of those is national defense that the
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purpose of a government is to protect
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our property and our rights from those
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who would encroach on upon it except for
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them but the and and that would be where
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the military comes in to protect us from
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foreign invasion or or or you know a
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domestic civil war or something like
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that and so you
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using that concept but but thinking of
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it as a libertarian if you’re going to
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contract for someone to do something for
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you with the idea that what they’re
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doing is gonna be pretty intense and
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could be a lifelong thing and you’re
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going to take care of any take care of
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any health problems that arise as a
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result of that so if you hire me as a
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long debt you know for on a long-term
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contract to do construction work and I
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have a worker’s comp claim or an
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insurance claim during that time and it
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was contractually agreed upon ahead of
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time that you’d take care of that then
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you owe that so from that standpoint you
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know when people say well if you were
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you’re an anarchist would you cut
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veterans benefits my short answer is I’d
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cut a lot of things before I’d cut that
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because those are people that they need
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that and they they did something based
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on a contract but yes eventually in an
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anarchist world all those things would
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go away in short in in in still having
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that as a as an obligation you got to
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take care of the the contractual
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obligation and the best way to do that
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is as free-market a plan as possible so
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like Jason was saying like looking at it
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like a almost like the same way we look
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at school choice you take that money and
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put it into either a per per service pay
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care in the private sector or through
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health insurance or maybe actually
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probably maybe a system where you give a
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few options to the the veteran to the
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patient for them to choose the best way
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to do it that would open up competition
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that’s going to be a lot better because
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the VA isn’t just single payer single
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payer is what they have in Canada the
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government’s paying for all the health
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care but it’s still most of the time
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being provided by private providers the
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VA is even worse than that the VA is
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like the national health care system in
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Britain where the government runs health
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care when you go to a doctor you are
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going to a government employee who gets
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their marching orders from no pun
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intended from the government on what
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they’re going to provide what they’re
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not going to provide and whatever else
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it seems like there’s not a big deal
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prints there there’s a huge difference
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because there’s no competition in the
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single payer system I’m not Canadian but
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my wife who is Canadian if she wanted to
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get health care here she has choices of
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who to go to the government’s still
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paying for it but she has doctor she can
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choose from if we were in Britain that
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would not be the case you go to the
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doctor that they tell you to go to and
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that is a huge huge difference and we
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see that in the VA we see people you
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don’t see how was the last time you
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heard of someone I’m sure it’s happened
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but when was the last time you heard of
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someone committing suicide in the in the
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the Blue Cross parking lot to protest
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you know insurance prices or being
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denied it has it maybe happened
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absolutely I’m not saying it hasn’t the
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insurance system is definitely flawed
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and we can thank government for that as
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well but you haven’t heard of that I
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haven’t I’ve only heard of a couple
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cases that were similar where people
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have you know committed suicide over you
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know Canadian healthcare it does happen
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and again that’s a terrible system we’ve
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routinely hear at least a couple times a
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year of veterans killing themselves in
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VA parking lots and VA hospitals and VA
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health care providing centers and
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whatever because it’s that bad yes and
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they’re even leaving notes spelling
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that’s why yeah thing exactly exactly so
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it’s a terrible terrible system so if
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you’re gonna provide it not only would
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it be cheaper but you’d be saving these
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people’s lives these are people that
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often they go in as kids let’s be
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serious here 17 18 years old yes you’re
23:38
you know actually 17 you’re not even
23:40
legally an at all well I guess in some
23:42
states you are but there are a lot of
23:44
things you can’t do at 17 you can sign
23:46
up for a long term commitment to the
23:49
government to go overseas kill people
23:53
potentially die potentially be maimed
23:55
there’s a reason they’re choosing them
23:57
to that that age because if you try to
23:59
get someone Jason’s age or my age we’re
24:01
gonna be like yeah no I don’t think so
24:03
it sounds good but maybe the the kid
24:05
behind me will do that Plus on top of
24:08
that they’ve they’ve seen our show and
24:10
they know how often we get out for back
24:11
injuries they don’t guys I would love to
24:16
but my
24:20
it’s no it’s true that’s true
24:22
um but yes and then and then if they
24:25
watch our shows the back problems are
24:27
the least of why they would not yes yes
24:29
yes I mean there’s there’s recently a
24:31
story going out there that they’re
24:32
looking to get kids even younger because
24:35
they see that even at 17 and 18 with the
24:40
way the social media has been interact
24:41
with their the way that people have been
24:42
interact with social media right they
24:44
become more aware
24:45
oh and so the tart the audience that is
24:48
susceptible to this has been shrunk and
24:51
and so they have to go to another level
24:55
of ignorance if you will and and they’re
24:59
driving younger and younger eventually
25:00
you know as soon as you come out of the
25:02
womb here comes the the army recruiter
25:04
and the Marine recruiter fighting over
25:07
who’s gonna get the the foot stamp you
25:09
know what oh absolutely yeah listen I
25:11
mean the ROTC starts at JROTC that was
25:14
like middle school they’re getting late
25:16
twelve and thirteen-year-olds
25:18
yes and and and far be it from me to I
25:22
mean no if it were if it were a private
25:24
sector company trying to get kids to
25:25
join Team Toyota or team I don’t know
25:29
John Deere or whatever like you know to
25:31
you know team Amazon or but you know
25:33
that’s fine you get them young and you
25:35
try to get him into it but there’s
25:36
something to be said of team but haha
25:39
yeah listen if they can go and kill
25:42
people why can’t they start drinking
25:44
early to like I mean there was a there
25:46
was a meme someone shared where it said
25:48
where this this guy is at a bar and he
25:50
said you know it looks like a bar and
25:52
he’s standing next to someone he’s got
25:54
this beard like you and he’s all
25:55
grizzled looking and he’s talking about
25:57
his tours in Iraq now he lost his buddy
25:59
on the battlefield and all of this stuff
26:01
and out terrible it was and you know I
26:03
was just you know it’s been years and
26:05
he’s just trying to get by and he’s
26:07
doing his best just to you know keep his
26:08
head above water and and the other guy
26:11
says man I’m so sorry you’re going
26:12
through that can I buy you a beer and
26:14
the guys like no I’m sorry I’m not 21 I
26:16
can’t drink yeah and it’s and it’s true
26:17
like there are people like 20 years old
26:21
who have already lived some hard hard
26:25
stuff and if literally any other
26:28
organization except the government was
26:30
subjecting people
26:32
this to this on a regular basis they
26:35
would get shut down people would go to
26:37
jail it would be called racketeering I
26:40
get the whole argument about the
26:42
military I’m not I’m not trying to red
26:44
pill well I am but I’m not trying to
26:45
yellow black pill people actually I am
26:48
I’m trying to yellow black people but uh
26:53
you know if you’re watching the show
26:55
anarchy is nifty but yeah so I mean it’s
26:59
just it’s a it’s a terrible it’s a
27:01
terrible thing if you’re gonna have them
27:03
doing this you you have to keep the
27:07
obligation and yes I realize that means
27:09
you’re robbing people or you’re running
27:10
up debt or whatever on the scale of
27:13
things when you look at Social Security
27:15
Medicare the the Pentagon then the new
27:19
veterans they’re creating not to mention
27:21
all the people that all the trauma
27:23
they’re creating across the world those
27:26
are the cost drivers long before you get
27:29
to the VA there are way other many other
27:31
things that could be cut before we’re
27:34
talking about making sure that a million
27:36
millions of people aren’t dying and
27:39
committing suicide based on a
27:41
contractual a denial of a contractual
27:44
obligation for their health care so that
27:46
that’s my that’s my minner kiss take on
27:49
it but next question was from Matt
27:53
Wright when’s one real quick one yeah
27:55
yeah go ahead one more quick fall before
27:56
I want to put this in perspective for a
27:59
lot of people because we talked about
28:00
the military and we talked about like
28:01
you know how drastic and how damaging it
28:05
is and I I don’t deny that at all but at
28:07
any given moment in in the history of
28:09
America well a recent history if you
28:13
will only roughly around 1% of the
28:17
entire country is active or reserves and
28:20
so it is a small small portion of the of
28:24
the country so putting that into
28:27
perspective of what yours are most
28:28
Social Security well there’s more people
28:29
on Social Security there’s more people
28:31
on all those other forms of entitlements
28:33
or welfare and so if we want to shrink
28:36
the government we got that we got to
28:37
focus on those entitlements those who
28:40
are dependent upon the government not
28:42
because of government but because of
28:45
because of government yes yeah no
28:47
because of because of a combination of
28:49
their choices and government no I agree
28:51
and and this this lovely lady Kelsey
28:54
Lyon said the peanut gallery there and
28:59
she said they they can treat their get
29:02
veterans as guinea pigs because they
29:03
have no choice and that’s absolutely
29:05
true I have a friend that talked about
29:07
how like before he went to Iraq they
29:09
gave him all these shots and he like
29:11
grew a foot and uh and no I he grew a
29:15
foot in in height he didn’t grow an
29:17
extra foot but was that been cool like
29:20
did that go to third leg I like weird I
29:22
would go oh that would have been scary
29:24
huh but uh it’s good conversation piece
29:27
though but no sadly he grew a foot in
29:30
height and he’s like he got all muscular
29:32
but then now he’s dealing with like knee
29:34
problems and stuff and it’s like you
29:36
know I and and and and he you know his
29:40
what he did without giving away too much
29:42
he wasn’t in combat he was doing
29:44
essentially a like a you know
29:47
maintenance stuff so it wasn’t like he
29:50
was basically a mechanic um so his knee
29:53
stuff isn’t probably just as a result of
29:56
that and you know it so it’s it’s like
29:58
you know you got to keep the obligation
30:00
I we can we could spend a whole whole
30:02
episode on this boat you got to keep the
30:03
obligation so we’ve got two questions
30:05
here it’s kind of become a pile on Matt
30:08
right says first time long time
30:12
why is Shane Sweeney’s beard better and
30:14
then Brent de Ridder up there in in
30:17
North Carolina says why do Shane and
30:20
Jason have inferior beards I’m just
30:24
gonna give you a moment to talk about
30:25
Matt’s beard since we’re going there to
30:29
Matt’s beard
30:30
yeah that’s beard hello what are your
30:32
thoughts on Matt’s beard Matt’s beard
30:36
it’s as impressive as I don’t know I
30:41
can’t I can’t even think of something so
30:44
that lets you down so hard that you just
30:47
Matt’s beard is the equivalent of VA
30:50
health care oh wow Matt’s beautiful
30:53
health care of that is a that is a hot
30:56
take will be on our Matt
30:58
we’ll put that in our best of muddied
31:00
waters section of YouTube yeah no listen
31:03
guys you know Brent de Ridder has a very
31:06
impressive Southern gentleman beard
31:09
shane has a jovial bushy beard jason has
31:12
a beautiful straight mane and matt has
31:15
the sheer audacity are we doing here
31:21
even I have a beard now we also we need
31:25
to make sure that even though right now
31:26
you are north of the lands that we we
31:29
refer to South Carolina as the Carolina
31:33
and we refer to the one above us as the
31:36
Yankee Caroline oh yeah let’s do that
31:38
yeah let’s do that
31:39
Brent de Ridder best Carolina we have
31:42
more waffle houses than you bro I I
31:44
don’t know why you want to compete with
31:46
us there’s that truth you can’t handle
31:48
it yeah we have like two more um and I
31:51
just wait yeah but if you if you do that
31:53
per capita it’s way higher cuz North
31:56
Carolina has all those Yankee fide
31:58
cities up there Charlotte and rally I
32:00
see you people up there yeah I go to
32:03
Charlotte but oh yeah this is the south
32:05
as for the question about the actual
32:09
beards that are occurring in this world
32:11
sorry Matt you’re excluded from this
32:13
conversation I might be salty he fired
32:16
me this Pike was witness to that we
32:23
could get into that later but you could
32:24
definitely get on to that you know which
32:26
we will when it comes when it comes to
32:28
Brent or Ritter and and Shane they have
32:30
they have nice to amateur beards they
32:33
have beards that you know they let grow
32:35
and they they go and they water their
32:38
beards they might put some miracle-gro
32:40
in them and and look over into the
32:42
greener pastures of Jason land and go
32:45
that’s a really nice beard and he takes
32:47
care of it so I don’t think that you
32:49
could really you don’t look at somebody
32:51
with a with a lawn that hasn’t been kept
32:57
and go that’s a much better lawn than
33:00
the guy down the road who you know he
33:02
goes out there and he he takes care of
33:04
it he straightens it you know takes just
33:07
really loves and nurtures his beard and
33:11
so there
33:12
there really isn’t a competition here
33:14
they made you try to you’ve got to have
33:17
goals you have edge work on your beards
33:19
on your beard they’re like you’re you
33:21
you’ve got a straight as opposed to me
33:23
who has just let my Jew face and and and
33:29
it’s to match its eventually gonna
33:31
connect like this is just the Jew
33:34
it’s our protection from the next
33:37
potential genocide is this hair so we
33:40
can just review if you would really I
33:43
don’t know if the quality is good enough
33:45
but when I say I have a mane it actually
33:47
does connect to the back of my head and
33:49
so you’re do that again when you were
33:51
your the you run this month sorry
33:54
oh yeah I’d be able to see it I see it
33:56
um it it definitely comes together I
33:58
have an actual lion mane like I am body
34:01
this and so you know it’s nice for these
34:04
guys to take the pee but I don’t I no
34:08
wonder if mine this mind do that no no
34:11
but it connects everywhere else it
34:13
connects down to my chest and back and
34:15
it’s like it I have a chest beard if we
34:17
want to do beards I have like a species
34:20
of bees is not common no I’m I’m I’m not
34:24
devolve so good well we’ve addressed
34:28
Matt’s but I mean of all people anyway
34:30
um so Christopher Ryan Clark regular
34:34
watcher of ours asks do you think we
34:37
will ever move away from our current
34:39
party system and III assume he means the
34:41
like Republican and Democrat duopoly um
34:44
I think I think whenever we have
34:46
whenever we look at these political
34:48
parties um I hope that we would evolve
34:51
right when we look at the European
34:52
countries who we view as more outdated
34:55
and whether they started before their
34:57
current government started before or
34:59
after ours is really irrelevant rum
35:01
because they’re just outdated in general
35:04
that their line of thinking they have
35:06
multiple parties who was it was was it
35:09
Spain that has like four different
35:11
parties and so they basically don’t have
35:13
a government because they’re just so
35:14
incompetent to be able to really come to
35:18
power and make things work you have that
35:20
and then you have our two parties and
35:22
and well I’m not sure if we’re ever
35:25
going
35:25
evolve ourselves but something like a
35:29
Yuna party would be at least more honest
35:32
I think for the people and and so we
35:34
should be pushing for that because
35:35
they’re one-party rule right when we
35:38
look at the Democrats and we look at the
35:39
Republicans there’s there really is no
35:41
difference they both want to grow the
35:43
government just a different rates just
35:45
like different speeds in a different
35:46
different directions need anyone who
35:50
disagrees with this notion please tell
35:53
me why it is that that Republicans are
35:55
more successful at pushing gun control
35:57
than Democrats it just it’s it’s there
36:01
the evidence is there oh yeah and so if
36:04
we’re going to evolve hopefully it’s the
36:07
evolution in the way of volunteerism in
36:09
the way of libertarianism where we we
36:12
break down the rulers there’s there’s
36:15
less control decentralized powers right
36:17
we we dismantle 85-95
36:21
maybe even a hundred percent of what the
36:23
federal government is today if they were
36:25
there to protect the sovereignty of a
36:27
nation right this is pragmatic speaking
36:29
not ideologically speaking right right
36:31
right if they’re there to protect the
36:32
nation and the sovereignty of the nation
36:34
that should be their only scope and then
36:38
you move down to the state level and the
36:40
state level you know they reduce some of
36:42
their things and they move it down to
36:43
the county level and then eventually we
36:44
get to where the point of individual
36:47
freedom and individual ownership and be
36:50
the ruler of yourself they it’s hard to
36:53
argue against it the idea that you know
36:55
because you don’t like your neighbor
36:57
smoke in the marriage Alana’s taking
37:00
taking a head of ecstasy take you know
37:04
pop and Molly doing whatever it is that
37:06
they’re doing doing the bus stop like it
37:09
doesn’t mean that you get to to tell
37:11
others to throw them into a cage you
37:13
know that’s something that there’s a
37:14
victimless crime there and and so I
37:17
think that in the grand scheme of things
37:19
I hope that we would evolve in that way
37:22
but the problem is is that we don’t ever
37:24
have those evolutions in those ways in
37:26
those ways usually those require
37:29
catastrophic war such as you know what
37:31
we’re gonna what a lot of Americans are
37:33
celebrating tomorrow when we declared
37:34
our independence and had to find a
37:36
bloody battle against the Brits so I
37:39
think that the
37:40
evolution it the more possible evolution
37:44
is just changing the party names but not
37:47
changing the stances or figures ya know
37:50
exactly because that’s the thing like
37:52
the Republicans and Democrats didn’t
37:54
exist when the party when the country
37:56
was first founded it was the Federalists
37:58
and the anti-federalists who really
38:00
weren’t present in politics because in
38:03
in the electoral rolls because they were
38:05
against the whole thing but you so you
38:07
had the Federalist Party and then you
38:09
had then it became like the the
38:11
Democratic Republicans and things like
38:13
that and then the Whig party and and and
38:16
so it took a while before it wasn’t
38:18
until pretty much at and and and just
38:21
after the civil war that you saw it kind
38:23
of congeal around the Republican and
38:25
Democratic parties and then sometime I’m
38:27
forgetting my dates but sometime in the
38:29
early 20th century the Federal Election
38:31
Commission came around to basically
38:33
cement the Republican and Democratic
38:36
parties as the two main official parties
38:40
and they that’s when they started adding
38:42
all these crazy ballot access rules and
38:44
everything else to make it nearly
38:45
impossible for third parties to compete
38:48
in any real way and so and when that
38:52
happened now all of a sudden there isn’t
38:54
this much competition now you see the
38:56
daylight between the two parties shrank
38:58
and shrink and shrink and shrink I say
39:02
that today’s Republican is last decades
39:06
Democrat Donald Trump would have fit did
39:08
fit very squarely within the ninth that
39:11
the early 2000s and 1990s Democratic
39:16
Party many of his policies still fit
39:18
within the Democratic Party many you
39:20
know you see the two parties just kind
39:23
of moving over to the left more and more
39:25
and as they do so they’re getting closer
39:27
and closer and closer and like you said
39:28
it would be way more honest to have a
39:29
unit party so if there is going to be a
39:32
new party let it actually be something
39:36
real printer Ritter says Jason Lyon says
39:40
saying pop and Molly was the most
39:42
awkward thing I’ve ever heard and that’s
39:45
that’s not right that’s not no but he’s
39:47
right and and Matt said doing the but
39:49
stuff with the Molly one of my favorite
39:50
quotes from Jason was he said if your
39:53
neighbors
39:53
doing the butt stuff just let them you
39:57
know if you don’t have to like it but
39:59
just let them do the butt stuff they’re
40:01
not gonna do stuff to your butt and that
40:03
and he’s right that’s and they – that
40:05
stuff to you then we have I’ll stand
40:09
with you
40:10
oh yeah if they do the butt stuff to you
40:12
now there’s now we have problems if they
40:13
say we want to do butt stuff to you we
40:15
don’t care if you like it or not that’s
40:16
an issue all of this by the way should
40:18
be the real Libertarian Party motto
40:21
which brings us to our next question
40:23
from an anonymous follower on YouTube
40:24
what the hell is up with the Libertarian
40:27
Party saying that silence is consent
40:30
speaking of butt stuff so Jason give us
40:34
a little because I I came in on this
40:37
Lake I think the day after it happened
40:38
and I tell for those of our followers
40:43
who have no idea what we’re talking
40:44
about give us a little bit of background
40:46
on this and then and give us at your
40:48
take on it
40:48
so the lp national is once again making
40:52
itself kind of a disgrace and and it
40:56
sits there and does things like puts out
40:58
a tweet and says look if you don’t vote
40:59
silence is consent you can send to the
41:03
big government that we have and and then
41:05
they wonder why the LP is not gaining
41:08
people they wonder why the states don’t
41:10
back and support their platform on
41:14
everything they the problem with so as I
41:19
explained the context was if you don’t
41:21
go out and vote you don’t go out and
41:24
cast your vote in to wish your will upon
41:27
others then you consent to them in the
41:31
way that they vote upon you this has
41:35
been something that libertarians and the
41:37
libertarian party has been opposing for
41:39
forever
41:40
and their party platform they say you
41:42
know if we don’t speak on certain topics
41:44
if we don’t speak on certain issues if
41:46
our platform doesn’t cover these things
41:47
just because we don’t say it doesn’t
41:50
mean that we can send to it but exactly
41:52
damn you individuals if you guys don’t
41:54
support the state by spouting for the
41:57
state if you don’t vote to save your
41:59
shoes then you are complicit and in all
42:02
that and I understand the argument but
42:05
putting it out there and that
42:07
in having that specific quote silence is
42:10
consent Bill Cosby and cardi B both were
42:12
cheering they were loving it loving it
42:15
yeah I yes it’s it’s absolutely insane
42:19
so like you said I get what I think they
42:23
may have been trying to say which is
42:25
like if you don’t participate then it’s
42:29
still gonna happen to you so it would be
42:31
helpful to like for example I forget one
42:34
of the philosophers said you don’t have
42:36
to take an interest in politics politics
42:38
takes an interest in you or something
42:40
like that which is true like you know
42:42
we’re in a system the state is a system
42:44
of forced Association you don’t have to
42:46
like it you don’t have to like it you
42:49
were literally not required to like it
42:51
at least not yet
42:51
North Korea you are required to like it
42:53
but here yeah it’s not required to like
42:55
it yet and so but you still have to do
43:00
it you still have to pay the taxes you
43:01
still have to follow the rules you still
43:03
have to do all of those things and if
43:04
you get caught not doing it you might
43:06
get in trouble you might have some some
43:07
problems they might do the but stuff to
43:10
you honestly I mean want to talk about I
43:12
mean the government loves doing the but
43:14
stuff this is all they love the but
43:16
stuff they’ll put you in cages and make
43:17
sure that the but stuff happens to you
43:19
they love the blood stuff so much this
43:21
is the but stuff episode now by the way
43:22
that’s what we’re calling it one-year
43:24
anniversary but stuff episode they what
43:27
a great way to celebrate bringing in the
43:30
year with what stuff um I love that your
43:33
wife is watching this too um but anyway
43:36
mine definitely is not so I can say
43:38
whatever I want about blood stuff but
43:40
anyway the way that that was worded was
43:44
garbage silence your silence is consent
43:48
every rapist on earth you know when we
43:51
see rape on TV it’s like this violently
43:53
I’m gonna rape you and then the and then
43:55
the ones like that’s not I mean that
43:58
does happen the vast majority of rapes
44:00
are not like that
44:01
they’re the so-called date rapes where
44:03
there’s a lot of coercion and a lot of
44:05
like well I’m gonna do this I’m going to
44:06
do this this is okay right this okay and
44:07
the woman just kind of shuts in
44:10
emotionally she might say no once or
44:11
twice but then for the most part she’s
44:13
just kind of waiting for it to end and
44:15
so that it doesn’t become a you know a
44:17
violent angry thing and she’s horrified
44:19
and goes through that for the rest of
44:20
her
44:20
and there are men that get raped as well
44:22
I’m not I’m not saying it’s just women
44:23
but silence is not consent yeah there is
44:29
such a thing as compliance in your
44:31
direction
44:32
go ahead could we make it really clear
44:35
anyone consent is consent silence is
44:38
silence yes yeah it doesn’t complete
44:42
things it’s and it was a terror it’s a
44:44
horrible look and it was uh it was aimed
44:47
at a group of people who are all about
44:49
consent I believe that was aimed at you
44:52
know radical libertarians who are like
44:54
you know voting is proxy violence and
44:56
all of that stuff anarchists and things
44:58
like that I don’t think it was aimed at
45:00
angry Republicans or Democrats I think
45:02
it was aimed at people that are like
45:03
well you know I support Liberty but I
45:05
don’t think voting really helps and they
45:06
go well you know your silence is consent
45:08
that is like literally the last group of
45:11
people that that argument would work on
45:13
it was so tone-deaf and tin eared that
45:17
you’re presenting yourselves and and and
45:19
and you are as I mentioned the you know
45:23
the the chair of the Greenville County
45:26
party so you’re a part of the
45:28
Libertarian Party on on a local level
45:30
but you’re a part of the party and yes
45:32
you’re trying to present the Libertarian
45:35
Party as a real alternative not just
45:40
Republicans who like who like drugs or
45:43
organ but stuff or Democrats who like
45:47
guns and Republicans who like drugs and
45:49
but stuff it’s it’s you are you’re
45:51
you’re all of those things and more
45:53
you’re an actual you’re an actual third
45:56
party presenting a completely radically
45:58
different idea of how society how people
46:02
within a society which wasn’t can can
46:05
cooperate with each other for scarce
46:07
resources and to create and to and to
46:10
how much easier does that message make
46:13
your job silence is consent it’s it’s
46:16
incredibly difficult and I think Dave
46:18
Smith really says it right one of the
46:20
quotes from him I believe he was the
46:22
originator of this so don’t quote me on
46:24
quoting him but it was that I’m a better
46:28
conservative than any conservative and
46:30
I’m a better liberal than any liberal we
46:32
are the better
46:34
choices of any any idea out there and
46:37
and so when we advocate for that you
46:41
know the LP national putting out that
46:43
silence is consent there’s there’s you
46:44
know like what we were talking about
46:46
there’s there may be some a little bit
46:47
of truth to the idea that you know if
46:49
you’re not voting then you know you get
46:52
what’s coming to you don’t use a valid
46:55
argument it’s a valid argument yes yeah
46:57
but the way that they could have framed
46:59
that in the way that they could have
47:00
portrayed that message they could have
47:02
reached people and been like look at how
47:05
many people are not voting how many
47:07
people would be willing to put out their
47:09
name and say look I don’t vote because I
47:11
know I don’t get representation I know
47:13
that no matter how I vote the government
47:16
continues to grow no matter how I vote
47:18
the government will still work against
47:20
my best interests no matter what happens
47:22
no matter who is in office no matter
47:24
what laws are enacted I am no no more
47:27
safe norm no more free right is that
47:31
going and being able to put that out
47:32
there and just show those stark numbers
47:34
because if we look if if if Democrats
47:37
get their way in the way that they’ve
47:39
been pushing for a popular vote in this
47:40
country if we look at how many people
47:42
don’t vote and we count those as a quote
47:45
unquote know to vote and none of the
47:47
above vote right nobody wins ever nobody
47:51
ever wins in this country right yep
47:54
absolutely
47:55
absolutely and go ahead so they spin it
47:59
as get raped
48:01
instead of hey guys what could we care
48:05
about each other could we stop just
48:07
destroying each other’s lives just for a
48:08
political game because my my team is
48:10
better than your team yep exactly
48:13
exactly
48:14
it’s it’s it’s absolutely absurd I don’t
48:17
know what it is that they were trying to
48:20
what it is they were trying to say with
48:22
I think it was again it was so tenured
48:24
and tone-deaf so incidentally guys this
48:29
is um I got a I got a hot tip on while
48:34
this was going on from a a aim is Kelsey
48:38
Lombard is mrs. Kelsey Lyon that would
48:41
be that would be my my that’s right
48:44
there is my blow-dryer that’s one of my
48:46
beard brushes there
48:47
another beard brush in there that’s my
48:49
hair gel my beard products and that’s my
48:52
straightener right there yes I will
48:53
admit that I take care of my beard
48:55
that’s a beard balm I also have I don’t
48:58
know that’s a I’m having to scroll this
49:00
photo that’s like I mean this is serious
49:04
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49:08
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49:13
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49:15
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49:17
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49:19
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49:23
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49:26
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49:31
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49:32
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51:51
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51:54
so the Electoral College has been much
51:59
maligned recently and I wonder here the
52:04
libertarians / Matan Spike’s view on the
52:10
electoral college Jason to reserve power
52:15
to the states over the federal
52:17
government in a sense so it would seem
52:20
to be something that libertarians would
52:22
fever over other methods of electing a
52:26
president do you guys favor something
52:35
else
52:38
thank you so we had this thank you Chris
52:42
we had this question last night on the
52:45
money waters of freedom but I wanted to
52:46
get your take on it as well for this
52:49
episode so give us your take on the
52:51
electoral college versus the I guess the
52:53
alternative the national popular vote so
52:58
this is something that I’ve covered I
53:01
think the most recent time was maybe
53:04
maybe a month or two ago but the basic
53:06
premise here is do you want to have mob
53:08
rule or do you want to have
53:11
representation we all know from if you
53:13
watch fox news
53:14
if you read any of the mainstream media
53:16
if you pay attention at all that we can
53:19
have just a couple few counties across
53:22
this country be able to dictate over the
53:24
rest of us so moving in the way of a
53:27
straight democracy via the the bills
53:31
that have been going through from the
53:32
different states that is actually gonna
53:34
be tearing at the integrity of this
53:36
country as well as reducing your ability
53:39
to vote
53:40
I think Oregon was the most recent state
53:43
to sign onto that bill and basically
53:45
what that what all these states that
53:47
have signed on to are saying my people
53:49
don’t matter they don’t care I want
53:52
California in New York Washington DC in
53:55
Florida to be able to vote for whoever
53:57
they want and go off to just abide by
53:59
their their policies and so what that
54:02
means is that anybody running for
54:05
Congress or sorry running for the
54:07
presidency all they have to do is go to
54:10
those three or four areas and then they
54:12
can win yeah now if you’re a Democrat
54:14
you’re guaranteed if you’re a Republican
54:16
good luck on that if you’re a
54:17
libertarian hopefully we could get that
54:20
three percent again right sorry Kerry
54:23
exactly yeah
54:25
so moving towards the electoral college
54:28
that that’s a very it’s a better idea
54:31
it’s a better system in the way of
54:33
electing people because that way no
54:36
state is quote-unquote too small to make
54:39
a difference now Wyoming on Alaska of
54:41
course they don’t with their what two
54:44
votes they aren’t really swinging
54:46
anything but they at least have somewhat
54:48
of a say in it but it to be fair in a
54:51
close election they could really swing
54:52
things like in it where it’s down to a
54:54
couple points it’s those smaller states
54:56
that really matter so so potentially
54:58
yeah yes
55:00
you know meanwhile California swinging
55:02
with the 55-inch potala whacker if you
55:06
will you know they for the but for the
55:09
but stuff yes for the but stuff of
55:11
course San Fran need i say more
55:15
so the electoral college is a better
55:17
system it’s a better idea of course the
55:19
government that is that it is enabling
55:24
or you know the the office that is going
55:27
into that govern
55:28
the the electoral college that of course
55:30
needs to be pulled away and torn down
55:32
but the electoral college is a much
55:35
better system than then straight mob
55:37
ruled and straight democracy democracy
55:39
doesn’t work it never works because mob
55:43
rule right exactly and that’s just to
55:46
kind of give my take from from yesterday
55:48
I’ll give it a little bit I think I
55:50
talked a lot about this yesterday so
55:52
I’ll give a little shorter take but
55:54
basically the purpose of the electoral
55:55
college was that coming out of the
55:58
Articles of Confederation which were the
56:00
original Constitution if you will the
56:04
original charter for the government
56:06
coming after the Revolutionary War that
56:08
was the original American government had
56:10
a very very weak federal government they
56:13
had no ability to tax they had no
56:14
ability to declare war they had no
56:16
ability to raise an army that was up to
56:18
the individual states it was a very it
56:21
was actually a min arcus dream if you
56:23
were trying to make a truly mener kist
56:25
government was the Articles of
56:27
Confederation that was replaced with the
56:29
Constitution which actually created a
56:32
much more centralized government than
56:34
what was in the Articles of
56:35
Confederation one of the many
56:36
compromises one compromise was the
56:39
so-called Bill of Rights the first ten
56:41
amendments which you know basically said
56:43
well we’re still going to ensure the
56:45
rights of the people not just American
56:48
citizens but of all the people within
56:49
our presumed or jurisdiction have all of
56:52
these rights and and any and the Tenth
56:55
Amendment says any power not given to
56:57
the government is delegated to the
56:59
States or the people themselves all of
57:01
that to say that one of the other
57:02
compromises was that was the assurance
57:05
that each state was still an independent
57:07
a not autonomous or at least semi
57:09
autonomous nation state working in a
57:12
confederation or federalization with
57:14
other states and part of that was that
57:16
to elect a national a national person to
57:22
preside over that government not to rule
57:25
it to preside that’s what a president
57:26
does to preside over that government and
57:28
to basically do whatever Congress has
57:31
given him to do he executes it the way
57:34
that was going to be chosen was not all
57:35
the people as one nation were going to
57:38
choose that president it was that each
57:40
state
57:41
was going to choose who they wanted as
57:43
president and they got based on their
57:46
population a certain amount of electoral
57:48
college votes and so forth so it wasn’t
57:50
just yes it was to protect the smaller
57:52
states from just being rode roughshod on
57:55
by the bigger states but more important
57:57
but at least as importantly it was to
57:59
say that these are individual nation
58:01
states making their individual nation
58:03
state choice for who they wanted as
58:05
president a national popular vote does
58:07
away with all of that and says note we
58:09
are one nation like like the the Pledge
58:11
of Allegiance that was created by the
58:13
Socialist white supremacist Francis
58:15
Bellamy’s you know one nation
58:17
indivisible that’s actually not we
58:20
weren’t supposed to be one nation or
58:21
indivisible we were supposed to be yes
58:24
at that point thirteen nations now fifty
58:27
nations completely divisible at any time
58:29
but thanks to Francis Bellamy an Abraham
58:32
Lincoln no not so much they’ll kill you
58:34
and so but the compromise again is that
58:37
the individual states are making that
58:39
choice national popular vote does away
58:40
with that here’s what I will say two
58:43
things one is that the electoral college
58:45
term limits all of these things are ways
58:48
of acknowledging that we are scared of
58:50
our neighbors and don’t like the idea of
58:53
them deciding stuff for us it is an
58:55
implicit acknowledgement that democracy
58:57
is garbage and that we should just do
58:58
away with it anyway the second part of
59:00
that I feel like this is becoming as
59:02
long as my answer yesterday but the
59:04
second part of that is that Ethan what’s
59:08
that I said it’s good content continue
59:10
well thank you I like to give good
59:12
content the other part of that is if you
59:13
were going to have a national popular
59:15
election then it shouldn’t be just a
59:18
first-past-the-post that whoever gets
59:20
the most you know wins at that point if
59:23
you’re gonna go that way it should be
59:25
one of these like how they have in in
59:27
other countries like Israel and in some
59:30
of the I think it’s the Scandinavian
59:32
countries where instead of it’s just
59:34
whoever gets the highest percentage wins
59:36
you have what they call ranked voting or
59:40
what’s the word plural elections and
59:42
things like that where where it’s done
59:45
based on well this party got this many
59:47
votes so they get this many seats this
59:49
party gets this many seats this would do
59:51
a couple things first of all it would
59:52
make people less scared of
59:54
voting for third and fourth parties
59:56
because it would mean that they wouldn’t
59:58
just lose their vote to whoever got you
60:00
know the most votes um and then the
60:03
other thing we would do is it would
60:03
still give a semblance of individuals
60:07
and and voting groups voting together
60:10
and there are some that would argue that
60:11
that’s actually better than the
60:12
electoral college because I would be
60:14
sharing my votes not just with people in
60:16
my state but with people around the
60:18
country who share my common values all
60:21
of that to say that I think all of these
60:23
systems suck but if I had to pick
60:25
between just electoral college or the
60:28
national popular vote with
60:30
first-past-the-post it would be
60:32
electoral college definitely because
60:33
there’s at least some some level of
60:37
quote-unquote protection there and then
60:39
there’s another idea
60:40
go ahead moding oh god I want to share
60:42
with you guys and so there’s a system
60:46
called ranked voting where you’re gonna
60:48
and you’re gonna let’s say you have four
60:50
candidates you could vote candidate at
60:52
ABC and D Canada today you really like
60:55
candidate B you really like but you know
60:58
they’re a libertarian so why waste my
61:01
vote candidate sees a commie and
61:04
candidate D as a socialist so we know
61:06
that they’re getting no votes so you’re
61:09
you’re fighting between those two and
61:11
and so the way that you could structure
61:13
that is you have five points so you want
61:16
to give candidate a who you think is
61:18
gonna win you give him four points
61:20
candidate B who you love who’s a
61:23
libertarian who’s you know fighting for
61:25
you to be free to live your life the way
61:28
you want to for you to be more able to
61:33
be successful and whatever it is that
61:36
you are doing so you give them five
61:38
points so now you’re still voting for
61:40
who you think will win but you also get
61:42
a vote for who you want to win it who
61:44
better represents you hmm
61:46
and so by moving that way less people
61:50
will just like what you were talking
61:52
about less people be scared to go on
61:53
vote for that that the underdog if you
61:57
write the one that cuz because that’s a
61:59
that is a huge hurdle with libertarians
62:02
is okay great you’ve never hit double
62:04
digits so if I vote for you
62:09
yeah my greater evil whether it’s a
62:13
democrat or republican is gonna lose
62:16
we’re gonna win and my lesser evil that
62:19
I would have voted for is gonna gonna
62:21
lose and so you’re really first before
62:23
the vote for you you have to sell them
62:25
on the idea that they both are
62:26
essentially equal evils that suck and
62:29
that continuing to vote for one of those
62:31
two is just going to ensure that they
62:34
continue to become more evil together
62:36
and but that’s a harder sell than saying
62:39
hey give us a chance um yeah there’s the
62:42
lungs I want to say real quick yeah yeah
62:44
oh here’s one is that everyone goes into
62:45
the circular logic they say the
62:47
libertarians can’t win because nobody
62:49
votes for the libertarians so I won’t
62:51
vote for the libertarians because the
62:53
libertarians won’t win and and so you
62:55
just run around in that circle all day
62:57
and and year in and year out well that’s
62:59
of course a big issue now like kind of
63:02
how you you started touching on it a
63:04
little bit right if I vote for a
63:06
libertarian and I would rather have a
63:07
Republican win then it’s kind of a vote
63:10
for the Democrat because I’m not voting
63:11
for the Republican right well Democrat
63:13
would also say that if you vote for
63:15
libertarian then you’re voting for a
63:17
Republican so my thought is why don’t
63:19
you triple the power of you vote for
63:21
libertarian you’re voting for a
63:23
libertarian by the Democrats view you’re
63:25
voting for the by voting for a
63:27
libertarian you’re voting for Republican
63:28
so there there’s your second vote and
63:30
then Republicans say you’re voting for a
63:32
Democrat so just just both one time and
63:35
you get three effective votes maximized
63:37
voting I love it I love it it’s a new
63:40
it’s a new take on the Chicago way of
63:42
voting early and often you just about
63:43
the once and it’s a triple vote oh
63:46
that’s funny yeah I mean it’s it is a
63:49
hard sell because you’re talking about
63:51
you know it’s not like it’s close where
63:52
it’s like well we we got thirty eight
63:54
point with thirty eight percent last
63:55
time it’s like yeah we got three percent
63:57
so it’s it’s a tough sell but you’re
63:59
right it really comes down to the
64:00
circular logic of like well are they
64:04
gonna do it – alright well if they don’t
64:06
do it I’m not doing it either so you got
64:08
to kind of it really comes down to at
64:10
this point saying to them yeah look both
64:12
of them suck so yeah you can either stop
64:15
voting cuz you know you’re going the
64:17
full anarchist route or even if you’re
64:18
an anarchist
64:19
you can try voting for someone who also
64:22
Riis with that so yeah no I I I totally
64:24
agree with that and then we get we have
64:26
one other question from Chris which is
64:30
right no wait that’s the oh good oh here
64:38
it is yeah personal injury attorney
64:43
Chris Reynolds here with your weekly
64:44
Ernie
64:47
wanted to see if the guys would talk a
64:50
little bit about what is starting to
64:54
feel like the essential issue which
65:01
seems to be Medicare for all
65:05
was it that long ago that we had the
65:09
Affordable Care Act and there was a
65:10
pretty big divide on that whether or not
65:13
you know we should be allowing
65:14
government to force people to do things
65:24
at this point and so just you know
65:27
obviously libertarians are not going to
65:28
like any of that stuff but you know just
65:30
a discussion of the pros and cons of a
65:33
system that is being proposed thank you
65:37
pros and cons of Medicare for all
65:40
okay so rows unbiased pros and cons now
65:45
all right so pros of Medicare for all
65:49
from my bias we’re done with that list
65:51
from from a trying to be as objective as
65:55
possible having it ignoring the taxation
66:00
ignoring you becoming a slave to the
66:02
system ignoring the failures of our
66:05
government running anything Medicare for
66:08
all would be something I’ll be able to
66:09
provide health care to millions of
66:11
people millions of Americans it would be
66:16
something where even if you couldn’t
66:18
afford it even if it wasn’t something
66:19
that was really feasible for you it
66:22
would then become available to you and
66:24
so there’s it’s a good intention cons of
66:28
this in reality like I said you become a
66:30
slave to the system you’re going to
66:31
right spend an exorbitant amount of
66:33
money and buy spend I mean stole
66:36
and exorbitant I mean even more than
66:38
exorbitant I don’t know where that’s
66:40
bigger than that but stuff but stuff
66:43
yes but stuff a mouth and and so it’s
66:51
gonna cost a crap ton of money
66:52
on the way is that single-pair from from
66:56
most of the candidates in in every
66:59
Democratic candidate out there that’s
67:01
espousing support and advocating for
67:03
Medicare for all has kind of a different
67:05
stance on it right somebody like an auto
67:08
quote more pragmatic some of them are
67:10
just jumping straight in to the
67:11
ideological thing but to generalize them
67:15
to blur them all together the way that
67:18
this is gonna work is they’re gonna cut
67:19
down cost how are they gonna cut down
67:21
cost well they’re gonna pay the people
67:23
less they’re gonna pay the the
67:24
facilities less there’s gonna be less
67:26
funding to to ensure the quality of the
67:29
buildings and the structures and the
67:31
equipment there’s going to be less
67:33
funding for the doctors there’s gonna be
67:35
no insurance there’s gonna they’re gonna
67:38
cut they’re gonna strangle the providers
67:42
of the health care and hope that we
67:45
don’t follow the way the Cuba went where
67:48
in in Cuba when they when they push the
67:50
national healthcare system all the
67:53
doctors weren’t making as much money as
67:54
they were before so doctors started
67:56
leaving the island they started leaving
67:58
the area and when they started leaving
67:59
there was less doctors providing more
68:02
work for less money and so now you’re
68:05
getting to where they have insanely long
68:08
wait times
68:09
nobody’s getting seen and it’s just it’s
68:11
just a failure all around so they’re
68:15
hoping not to replicate it even though
68:16
they’re going down the same road with
68:19
that regards when it comes to this if we
68:22
look at the way that Britain’s got their
68:25
natural health services NHS um you do
68:30
have the quote unquote death panels you
68:32
do have the you have reached your life
68:34
expectancy and so therefore you’re cut
68:36
off from us providing you these services
68:38
and goods sorry that you need a simple
68:41
surgery we may have somebody that’s
68:42
available to give this to you they may
68:44
have an opening somehow we may have
68:47
extra prosthetic knees but
68:49
sorry you’ve made it to your life
68:52
expectancy you’re cut off
68:54
yeah so the quality of health care goes
68:57
down the cost of health care they they
68:59
keep it down which means that the
69:02
quality drives down even faster but it’s
69:05
quote unquote universal unless you don’t
69:08
meet the criteria so or you need it
69:11
right now oh yeah if you need it right
69:14
now then sorry
69:16
sorry yeah yeah hey enjoy your long stay
69:20
times and this is something that happens
69:22
I haven’t found really any country out
69:27
there and maybe you know one spike of
69:29
any country that has quicker wait times
69:32
on average across the board than what
69:34
America has or other private or public
69:38
but private health care I I’m sure there
69:44
are I would assume it would be the
69:45
smaller wealthier country so if you look
69:48
the reason that the people that push
69:50
this stuff always love to go to
69:51
Scandinavia and Canada is because
69:54
Scandinavia and Canada are both unique
69:56
in that they are resource resource rich
69:59
wealthy countries with small populations
70:01
that they’re resourced to populate to
70:04
per-capita ratio is through the roof and
70:07
even then they have problems they have
70:10
wait time problems they have cost
70:11
overruns
70:12
they have all sorts of issues with what
70:14
is essentially their version of Medicare
70:16
for all let’s be very clear what they’re
70:18
proposing they’re not proposing Medicare
70:20
for all even though that’s what they’re
70:21
calling it Medicare the government pays
70:25
80% the seniors who are in it and then
70:29
people who are disabled pay 20% most of
70:32
them get a wraparound insurance that
70:34
pays it but they’re paying that 20% one
70:36
way or the other it’s paid for 80
70:38
percent by Medicare it is an incredibly
70:41
lavish system it’s one of the best
70:42
healthcare systems you can get in the US
70:44
which is why the cost overruns are
70:46
through the roof even though they were
70:48
only covering about I think 15 percent
70:50
of the population right now in order to
70:52
be able to scale that out to all of us
70:54
we’re not getting Medicare we’re getting
70:56
Medicaid the government pays all of it
71:00
and it’s gonna suck
71:02
and it’s gonna suck for everyone there
71:07
was a study done recently I don’t
71:09
remember if it was on Medicare or
71:10
Medicare or Medicaid but but I hope you
71:14
would you’d be able to fact check which
71:16
one it was um but they they did a blind
71:20
study and figured out there’s no change
71:23
in the results you have no difference
71:26
from if there’s no no advantage to being
71:31
on the government-provided one and and
71:34
so without an advantage why am I going
71:37
to be subsidizing everybody else why is
71:41
it that my paycheck is not my own why is
71:44
it that we are responsible for one
71:46
another when we don’t get to control or
71:51
limit the choices that other people make
71:54
now pulling away from just the providing
71:58
of health care would we look at how
72:02
people live right when we look at places
72:05
like California or Hawaii that they look
72:06
into banned cigarettes that’s not enough
72:08
we got to ban sugar we got banned booze
72:10
we got a ban you know banned the
72:13
cigarettes I I’m drinking a beer right
72:15
now this needs to get banned drink of
72:19
make sure that nobody is driving too
72:22
fast nobody is driving at all nobody is
72:25
going out in the Sun nobody is doing
72:27
anything outside of laying in their bed
72:29
and even in bed they need to be wrapped
72:32
up in bubble wrap and and lightest all
72:34
spray needs to be sprayed around them at
72:36
all times to make sure that my money is
72:38
being protected because if you’re gonna
72:40
steal my money I want as little of my
72:43
money taken as possible yep exactly
72:45
after progressives pass Medicaid for all
72:48
conservatives will start passing
72:51
lifestyle choice
72:52
mmm progressives but they will both
72:55
start passing lifestyle laws which they
72:58
will package as fiscal conservatism in
73:01
order to cut costs you’re not allowed to
73:04
do this you’re not allowed to eat too
73:06
much of this because it causes higher
73:09
rates of illness you’re not allowed to
73:11
smoke to forget smoking you’re not
73:13
allowed to smoke you’re not allowed to
73:14
drink but you’re you know sugar
73:16
at owen by the way because government
73:19
decides things based on what lobbies
73:20
tell them to do you’re now going to have
73:22
the dairy industry the sugar industry
73:24
the corn industry the rice industry
73:27
every frickin in the soybean industry
73:29
all of them are gonna be saying this is
73:31
the diet of the people that you must
73:33
push as law in order for them to you
73:38
know in order to keep costs low and
73:40
they’ll use whatever skewed data bribery
73:43
and outright graft and everything else
73:44
to get it passed and it won’t be long
73:46
before they’ll say oh yeah here’s your
73:47
soy you know drink for the day because
73:50
you know we’d much rather you you know
73:53
have high levels of phytoestrogens and
73:56
stay calm then you know eat something
73:58
that feels good but might you know might
74:00
be cause you know saturated fat buildup
74:02
in your arteries or whatever tells you
74:04
how much I know about this stuff but uh
74:06
you know and and I can tell you right
74:08
now it’s gonna be a carb heavy diet
74:10
because corn big corn owns the
74:13
government so you mean a lot of frickin
74:14
carbs a lot of corn syrup a lot of
74:18
vegetable oils it’s not gonna be a good
74:19
diet but it’ll be a diet that won’t kill
74:22
you immediately and it will be also a
74:25
diet that will make you want to die
74:26
immediately so it’s it’s it’s it’s a
74:29
terrible thing and it all creeps towards
74:32
what will eventually happen which is VA
74:35
for all after Medicaid for all the cost
74:38
overruns are still through the roof
74:40
people are making less money because
74:44
let’s let’s see I mean you gotta go down
74:46
the wormhole here we talk about taxes
74:48
taxes aren’t just income taxes they’re
74:51
they’re they’re corporate taxes they are
74:54
also income taxes but they’re not just
74:56
what you pay in income taxes they’re
74:58
what every single other person and the
75:00
chain of things that you purchase
75:02
because all all taxes are paid by the
75:05
consumer tariffs income taxes corporate
75:07
taxes levies regulations fines fees buh
75:10
bah blah blah name all the different
75:12
taxes property taxes all of them are
75:14
paid not just the sales tax all of them
75:16
are paid by the end consumer of whatever
75:19
that product is which is
75:20
disproportionately the poor and working
75:22
class the poor and working class all
75:24
consume more than they produce so you’re
75:27
putting it disproportionately on
75:30
them and when that fails now we’re not
75:33
in Medicaid for all we’re in VA for all
75:36
we’re in government-run health care to
75:39
keep costs low and that’s when you have
75:42
a situation like Britain where they’re
75:43
banning freaking steak knives I mean
75:46
this is where it goes these things can’t
75:49
be talked about in vacuums because
75:52
they’re all together it is the creeping
75:55
goal of the state to control everything
76:00
I have a chair that does this so I get
76:02
to do everything about you I’m not going
76:06
all the way around cuz I think I’m gonna
76:07
hit this thing here but everything about
76:09
you I love that I love the special
76:11
effects I get to do with this chair um
76:13
the state controls you more and more and
76:16
more and they use stuff like well they
76:19
wanna why can’t we give her socialism
76:22
begins with questions like why can’t we
76:24
give everyone health care and ends with
76:25
questions like when are we gonna start
76:27
eating the zoo animals and and and and
76:30
that’s that’s that’s where we’re headed
76:32
like and it’s a real question when
76:33
you’re in Venezuela why do we have a zoo
76:35
right now no one can afford to go to the
76:37
zoo why aren’t we eating the zoo animals
76:38
so we don’t die yeah when stray cats and
76:41
dogs are on your diet do you know your
76:43
country’s gone to yeah sorry
76:45
shithole let’s use this use the proper
76:47
tone the terms shop the proper
76:50
administration term exactly but it’s you
76:54
know like you were saying right we move
76:56
towards the VA health care for all and
76:58
once we get there right now we have 22
77:02
veterans per day committing suicide now
77:04
that’s again that’s 1% of population
77:07
active and reserves at any given moment
77:09
right right and and so we are let’s say
77:14
there’s another 2% so let’s say 3% of
77:18
the population 22 per day now multiply
77:21
that times 33 but of course veterans are
77:25
a completely different beast than the
77:29
average citizen than an average civilian
77:31
though the way that you get into the
77:33
military there is a different you’re
77:39
just a different kind of a person it’s
77:41
just the way that you conduct yourself
77:42
in the way that you handle yourself
77:43
all right people are inherently
77:45
different and I am a firm believer that
77:48
a lot of people that have made it
77:50
through the military through training
77:52
and through that process that a vast
77:56
majority of them are stronger mentally
77:59
and and for them to commit suicide
78:02
compared to some civilians oh yeah
78:06
something that no long would be
78:08
exponentially grow yeah something is oh
78:10
of course yeah if you if you took
78:12
exactly right if you took what veterans
78:15
are being exposed to and subjected it on
78:18
the greater population which by the way
78:21
that’s why you then see the euthanasia
78:23
euthanasia stuff get pushed because
78:26
you’re gonna see for the good of
78:27
humanity
78:28
millions of people choosing to be put
78:32
down in a more humane way than you know
78:34
blowing their brains out okay great
78:37
why couldn’t we instead have a
78:38
free-market system where people are
78:41
getting care they need at an affordable
78:42
rate the same way they can go buy
78:44
furniture or go buy electronics at ever
78:48
decreasing rates because the market is
78:50
largely left alone by the state to
78:53
constantly innovate and make newer
78:55
cheaper better things why not how it
78:58
adds are great one
78:59
tell freaking TVs get cheaper and
79:02
cheaper computers I struggled so for
79:05
like a year to buy a new computer
79:07
because they just kept getting better
79:08
and cheaper and I’m like well if I buy
79:11
it now six months from now it’s gonna be
79:12
you know twice as good for you know
79:15
three hundred bucks less and it’s why
79:17
can’t we have that with health care why
79:19
can’t we have that with everything else
79:21
by simply letting people off the this
79:26
government hook um anyway I I you know
79:29
we can go back and forth on this forever
79:31
I have a and this gonna be a hot take
79:32
question for you um Jason yeah a hot
79:36
take I just came in
79:38
Shane Sweeney says this questions for
79:41
burnt beard lion which you know what is
79:44
this what we’re doing its anyway what he
79:48
says what’s the best-case scenario for
79:51
the Trump administration regarding
79:53
making peace with Iran we’re putting 30
79:55
seconds on the clock
79:58
what’s the best situation for them to
80:00
make peace with Iran
80:02
how late get the hell out of the Middle
80:10
East I don’t if we look at and if we
80:14
look at the reasons why I like the
80:16
conflicts and the issues that have been
80:17
in the Middle East our foreign policy
80:20
has been entirely destructive you know
80:23
whether it’s it’s trying to do like what
80:27
we saw from okay buzzers out buzzers
80:30
buzz buzzers up buzzers up or puzzles
80:34
down yeah the answer is very little um I
80:44
it’s so I yeah I mean I’ll let I’ll let
80:49
you finish I just I like using that
80:51
Jeopardy thing with each episode ya know
80:53
you’re um so if we look at if we look at
80:55
what congressman Ryan did said during
80:58
the debates and and I don’t remember if
80:59
you guys covered this on the show or not
81:01
but congressman Ryan and Tulsi Gabbard
81:04
on the first night as the Democratic
81:05
debates we saw where we don’t know what
81:09
we’re doing in these areas we don’t even
81:11
know what groups are doing what even
81:12
though it’s been made clear by the media
81:14
it’s been made clear by by all these
81:17
countries everyone knows that it was not
81:20
the Taliban who flew the planes into our
81:24
buildings oh yeah all right right but we
81:26
we just are like your brown people let
81:31
me get my jump bolt and stash on and
81:33
we’ll justify whatever it is that we
81:36
want to do and and certainly when it
81:38
comes to the Iran situation if we look
81:40
at the way that they’ve been functioning
81:42
lately they’re taking defensive measures
81:44
and they’re taking in an aggressive way
81:46
Ryan and you blame somebody who lets
81:51
you’re sitting in your house right now
81:53
wherever you are hopefully you’re not on
81:55
the road or at work or something no you
81:58
viewers but you’re sitting in your home
82:00
and now your neighbor from not down the
82:04
street but two towns over
82:07
sends over his buddies and so they’re
82:10
like sitting right out
82:11
your neighbors houses they’re looking
82:14
right at you um you can see them
82:17
pointing to a sniper who’s looking at
82:19
your house yeah you know you can see a
82:21
team of mortars over on the over the
82:24
horizon and then you see this little
82:26
drone flying around you and you’re like
82:28
I feel really safe right now
82:30
no you would become defensive and so we
82:33
have taken all these measures there with
82:36
Iran to to really just be like we’re
82:39
gonna bully you without trying to go
82:41
onto your property even though I when it
82:44
came to that drone I know that there is
82:45
there’s a big dispute and even one of
82:47
the members of the Trump administration
82:48
that said that there’s a question on if
82:51
it went into Iranian airspace and then
82:53
came out and I was 21 miles outside of
82:55
it um we’ve done a lot of Iran and
82:59
Iran just like hey we can blow up we can
83:03
destroy the oil trade coming across to
83:06
us we can we could do a lot of things
83:08
right now
83:08
get the hell out of our back you go
83:10
Salone it like leave us alone they’re
83:12
not threatening to attack the US they’re
83:14
saying leave us the hell alone we’re
83:16
talking about whether they were five
83:18
miles on this side of international
83:20
while mile waters or four miles on this
83:22
international waters correct me if I’m
83:24
wrong is like 50 miles out from the
83:26
shore this is a drone is it twelve
83:29
twelve we’re talking a freaking short
83:32
drive out like you can’t drive on the
83:34
ocean but like we’re talking like a
83:35
20-minute boat trip thirty minute boat
83:37
trip off of the shore of Iran of their
83:40
homeland a frickin military drone
83:43
hovering over maybe possibly crossing in
83:46
or out leave them the hello look I love
83:49
your your your analogy with you know
83:51
your neighbors sending people to fly
83:52
draw imagine if you’re America whatever
83:55
country you’re in imagine a government
83:57
that is exponentially larger and more
83:59
powerful than your government and they
84:02
have bases in pretty much all the
84:04
countries that surround you and their
84:06
politicians are constantly talking
84:09
joking and seriously talking about
84:12
blowing the crap out of your country and
84:14
killing you and your friends and
84:15
neighbors for having a weapon for trying
84:19
to get up for allegedly trying to get a
84:21
weapon that they have thousands of I’m
84:25
imagine the mindset you’d be in and
84:27
they’re flying drones constantly just
84:29
maybe maybe they cross them maybe they
84:31
didn’t cross in and you know they’re
84:33
there they’re using espionage and
84:35
hacking tools to try to destroy your
84:36
nuclear plant you would be pissed the
84:39
hell off there are people watching this
84:41
who on ironically want to kill millions
84:44
of Iranians because like they chant
84:46
death to America why the hell do you
84:48
think they’re chanting death to America
84:49
they want you to leave them the hell
84:51
alone they don’t want to they want you
84:55
to leave them the hell alone so let’s
84:58
leave him the hell alone
85:00
rent the Iran lead or even he said
85:03
something that was really really
85:04
powerful he had said you know when they
85:08
had acknowledged that they’ve in
85:11
exceeded what the threshold of allowable
85:14
nuclear energy in my country for
85:16
armaments they he basically said hey
85:19
look America can you tell us which
85:22
country and this entire world has ever
85:24
utilized a nuclear bomb right yeah
85:27
looking at you yep
85:29
you can feeling right now you guys are
85:32
the only ones and yet you guys want to
85:33
be the bully and not allow anyone else
85:35
to be able to defend themselves against
85:37
weapons that you have utilized against
85:39
other foreign nations when they were on
85:41
the the brink of surrendering before the
85:44
first bomb was dropped and then you
85:46
dropped a second one just to make sure
85:47
that the the message was sent yeah
85:49
exactly
85:51
exactly it’s it’s it’s just it’s absurd
85:54
when the reason they did that was
85:55
because they knew no one else could bomb
85:56
them right like they knew no one else
85:59
could attack them the very second one
86:00
other country had a nuke that was the
86:04
end of that yeah there hasn’t been a
86:07
single there were a ton of tests but
86:09
there was never theirs never been a
86:11
single nuclear weapon used against a
86:13
major population center or any
86:15
population center since then because it
86:18
went from one this is the gun control
86:20
argument applied to nukes if only one
86:22
group has guns they’re gonna kill people
86:24
they’re gonna kill lots and lots and
86:26
lots of people because they’re the only
86:28
one with the guns if you have even one
86:30
other entity that has guns it becomes
86:32
exponentially safer mutually assured
86:34
destruction is across the board and
86:36
that’s why we here at muddy waters media
86:37
say leave
86:39
lies recreational plutonium for children
86:49
so Shane also had a question for me he
86:52
said this one’s for spike what’s a good
86:55
game plan for cooking salmon so that it
86:58
isn’t nasty and why is it still nasty
87:01
there’s no kicks listen no fix okay
87:03
first of all how dare you how dare are
87:07
you to come on my show and asked me
87:09
about salmon I did that’s it’s I’m not
87:14
gonna okay so I’m not gonna say it’s
87:16
anti-semitic but
87:20
it’s the fish of my people that can fill
87:25
to fish and kippers those are both
87:26
disgusting salmon is amazing
87:28
you cook a little bit of teriyaki sauce
87:29
a little bit of rosemary maybe some
87:31
pineapple and it’s great it’s the answer
87:34
to that damn question okay I don’t block
87:38
you from the show
87:39
he also said same minimum listenership
87:41
three times minimum listenership minimum
87:44
listenership minimum listenership boom
87:48
boom that’s about as fast as I can say
87:52
them I got a recharge each time um so we
87:57
have another good question here from a
88:00
facebook follower who wishes to remain
88:02
anonymous about immigration he says hey
88:05
dude I’m a Christian but not a
88:06
conservative I agree that borders should
88:09
be open we actually believe borders
88:11
should be private but fair enough the
88:13
issue I take though is that it is a very
88:15
easy thing to say but when there are
88:16
incentives for them to come it makes the
88:19
situation’s exponentially worse folks
88:23
not living in states bordering Mexico
88:24
have no idea what it does to schools and
88:26
hospitals here to just let them all come
88:28
in would be devastating however if they
88:31
were responsible for their own education
88:32
and health care and so forth that would
88:34
be a different story I often see
88:35
anarchist say let’s let them all in we
88:37
will deal with the other stuff later but
88:38
we know damn well that will never happen
88:40
I would like to see on one of these
88:43
pages a real conversation about how to
88:44
make it all happen for the good of
88:46
everyone we definitely need labor here
88:48
in Texas so we need to make it a lot
88:50
easier to let folks come in but each
88:52
person needs to be held accountable for
88:54
any service they use and me the taxpayer
88:56
should play no part in that LA County
88:58
alone spends well over 600 million a
88:59
year in entitlements I’m not sure if
89:01
that’s entitlements just for immigrants
89:04
or anyway anyway I would like to hear a
89:06
real conversation on how we can make
89:07
that work from an anarchist page so I’ll
89:09
let you start on that all right so I am
89:13
I have private borders advocate it is
89:18
low on my tier of priorities because
89:21
there’s so many things that we have to
89:22
get rid of before that becomes a weapon
89:24
that is utilized against us you know as
89:27
he alluded to the welfare the
89:28
entitlements that are given in this
89:30
country those things need to be removed
89:31
those needs to be
89:33
removed from the government level and so
89:35
you know the quote Bastiat from the law
89:38
it’s not that I oppose right so the
89:41
quote was that socialists often
89:43
complained that when we oppose something
89:45
being done by the government we oppose
89:46
it being done at all I don’t oppose
89:49
welfare through voluntary means I don’t
89:51
oppose charity I don’t oppose donations
89:54
right or I don’t oppose people giving
89:55
handouts and Hawk hand ups so get rid of
89:59
that other government level reduce that
90:01
incentive reduce the incentive like what
90:05
the last topic was with Iran get rid of
90:07
our foreign policy how many countries in
90:09
South America have we been involved with
90:12
and toppled their regimes and been so
90:15
involved with that we drive people away
90:17
from from those countries and then they
90:19
come to us for help and then we turn
90:21
them away so we’re doing exactly what we
90:23
do with the veterans we do that with
90:25
with people of other countries oh yeah
90:27
yeah
90:28
so it’s you know that South America that
90:31
South Africa that’s Africa
90:33
that’s Middle East that’s Europe that’s
90:35
it that’s everywhere where we are so
90:37
involved everywhere around the world and
90:39
in so many stupid ways so that’s another
90:43
way that we got to stop this the other
90:44
way is the end of victimless crimes so
90:48
most often when we hear libertarians
90:50
talk about this they say and the war on
90:51
drugs the the war on drugs is not enough
90:55
right now in a war on drugs because we
90:57
need to actually compete against these
90:58
cartels that are dragging drugs across
91:00
our borders allow for American
91:03
entrepreneurs to produce drugs to
91:06
produce marijuana to grow or to have
91:09
cocaine to methamphetamines whatever it
91:12
is whatever is on the market those
91:14
should be able to be produced in an
91:15
illegal eyes manner that way we the
91:18
consumers who whatever you want to
91:20
consume you can go down to the buffet
91:21
you can pick out what kind of drugs you
91:22
want you could know about who’s
91:24
producing these things so you can
91:26
actually have some traceability you can
91:28
know what’s in them you can know what’s
91:29
not in them um you can have a safer
91:33
medicated time on those and it’s not up
91:36
to me to tell you not to do something
91:38
I’m I am 100% advocate of
91:41
decriminalizing drugs in every capacity
91:43
I am personally not an advocate of
91:46
cocaine
91:47
have very many bad situation very many
91:49
bad Wow that’s very good very good li
91:51
English I’ve had a lot of bad
91:53
experiences not personally but
91:55
indirectly through others with cocaine
91:58
but right I still want to see it
91:59
decriminalized so that’s one aspect of
92:02
it now the other aspect that a lot of
92:04
people talk about when it comes about
92:05
the southern border is the human
92:06
trafficking how do you stop human
92:09
trafficking
92:09
well you allow for a legal market a
92:11
decriminalized market here in the States
92:13
that’s called prostitution if you want
92:17
to go I need to make I need to make
92:20
money I’m too lazy to go work down at
92:22
McDonald’s flipping burgers for six
92:25
dollars an hour because we should be
92:26
abolishing the minimum wage yes because
92:29
that’s all my Labor’s worth fifty two
92:30
cents yeah if if I don’t want to do that
92:34
if I’m not willing to participate in the
92:37
market in other ways I should have the
92:39
option of being able to do whatever I
92:40
want with my property and that includes
92:42
my body right so we allow for safer
92:45
transactions for more consent we’re
92:47
gonna be cutting down on the human
92:48
trafficking we’re gonna be cutting down
92:50
on on the drugs that are coming across
92:53
the border we legalize the Second
92:56
Amendment how about that
92:58
you know shall not be infringed allow
93:00
for weapons of the military to be
93:03
recreationally owned by the people in
93:06
the in accordance with the tenor of the
93:08
Second Amendment and now we’re gonna
93:11
have guns gun trafficking across the
93:13
southern border we’re gonna have all
93:15
these things that are pushing people and
93:16
propelling people across the southern
93:18
border for negative reasons to come into
93:21
this country and now what are you left
93:23
with you’re really left with economic
93:25
migrants people that want to come here
93:27
and better and enrich their own lives
93:28
yeah and if we have that it’s really
93:31
hard to say this person wants to come
93:32
here and make an honest living how dare
93:34
they how dare they throw them into a
93:36
cage good sir
93:37
throw them into the cage and send them
93:40
to Chile like really yeah like economic
93:44
migrants I make a good argument as to
93:47
why they shouldn’t be here right that
93:49
doesn’t involve you being scared of
93:50
competing so I’m this is one of those
93:53
times where I’m just gonna say
93:54
everything Jason said slightly
93:55
differently um so it sounds like I have
93:57
my own opinion let’s talk about
94:01
so I really want to focus in on two
94:03
things and the first is that the whole
94:05
human trafficking especially as its
94:09
related to sex trafficking let’s take
94:11
the most innocent thing wholesome thing
94:15
that I can think of hugging children and
94:18
puppies just finding a child or a puppy
94:22
giving it a big hug okay let’s say the
94:25
government said tugging children and
94:28
puppies is dangerous and where it’s
94:31
illegal now so they ban hugging children
94:33
and puppies again most wholesome thing
94:35
you could think of what would happen
94:36
would people stop hugging children and
94:38
puppies no they’d sneak hugs from
94:40
children and puppies but it would get
94:42
worse because it would get worse over
94:44
time because they’d have to keep
94:45
ratcheting up in the war on hugging
94:47
children and puppies
94:48
they’d have to keep ratcheting up zero
94:50
tolerance on hugging children and
94:51
puppies and you would have a black
94:53
market where now children and puppies
94:55
would be kidnapped this is real this is
95:00
a real show and they’ll be kidnapped and
95:02
trafficked around for unsavory people to
95:06
hug them and God knows what else they’re
95:14
trying to kill Joe Biden’s campaign is
95:16
as part of their goal to ban hugging
95:19
children I said it finally that’s been
95:22
said by someone out loud so this is the
95:26
reality like you could take the most
95:28
innocuous wholesome sweet thing if you
95:31
make it illegal unsavory characters are
95:33
gonna kidnap people to provide it to you
95:36
so just make it legal so you can get it
95:38
from a consenting adult provider going
95:41
back to the immigration thing
95:43
specifically I thought that was all over
95:46
the place but I’m glad I’m gonna need a
95:48
dad I’m just wondering what kind of
95:50
adult is gonna be selling children to
95:52
hug no if it’s illegal it would be it
95:56
would cost a fortune to hug a child
95:59
you’d be spending 500 bucks to get your
96:01
yeah but I wouldn’t sell my kid to hug
96:04
people of course you’re not going to but
96:06
you don’t sell your kids drugs or sell
96:08
them into prostitution now but there are
96:10
people doing that I’m just giving an
96:11
extreme example you could take the most
96:13
ridiculous thing
96:14
yeah no I know I know but no you are not
96:16
Jason lion will not be providing you
96:18
with kids to hug okay America with your
96:20
sickness Oh Joe Joe Biden I’m not giving
96:23
you nothing
96:23
yeah uncle touch he’s not getting a
96:25
thing from Jason lion not on this not on
96:27
his wife Mike spike and Matt may have
96:29
endorsed you yesterday it loved you and
96:31
had a show centered around supporting
96:33
you Joe Biden I saw that um but I don’t
96:37
know Biden low power yeah this is where
96:40
the muddied waters really really splits
96:42
you know this is where the waters get
96:45
muddy listen that was the most detailed
96:47
love fest of Joe Biden that Matt Wright
96:51
will probably ever give but I appreciate
96:54
him for it but going back to the
96:56
immigration argument this is a perfect
96:58
example of why government ruins
97:00
everything for the first hundred years
97:02
of the us’s existence we were the US was
97:07
effectively open borders it was
97:08
completely open to unlimited unregulated
97:11
migration and during that time the u.s.
97:13
went from being a a backwoods agrarian
97:17
society that no one took seriously to
97:19
the largest economic power on the planet
97:23
inside of like four generations of or
97:26
five generations however that works of
97:28
unlimited migration then what happened
97:31
was Chinese people started coming here
97:33
and that scared people because Chinese
97:36
people were markedly different then up
97:38
until that point you had Ben Franklin
97:41
talking about those dirty swarthy
97:42
Germans and how they weren’t you know
97:44
like the rest of us good and you know
97:47
good polite white people I mean that’s
97:49
that’s where English people word that
97:51
the Englishmen Anglo American majority
97:53
at the time was horrified at all these
97:55
Scandinavians and Germans coming here so
97:58
with that mindset in in mind now you got
98:02
Chinese people coming they speak a
98:05
completely different language family of
98:07
languages their culture is markedly
98:09
different and so they started passing
98:11
these rules the Chinese Exclusion acts
98:12
and the Supreme it took a while for it
98:14
to for it to be ruled constitutional
98:16
because the Constitution says nothing
98:18
about controlling migration at all
98:20
it left that to the states or the people
98:22
as per the 10th amendment but the
98:24
Supreme Court using an incredibly skewed
98:27
interpreting
98:28
of Commerce said oh yeah they can they
98:29
can definitely control migration and
98:31
that’s when it started but now it gets
98:33
worse now you have the government
98:36
destabilizing almost every country in
98:38
the Middle East tampering with all of
98:41
them but destabilizing one cent or South
98:45
America not Middle East well Middle East
98:46
– but Central and South America their
98:49
destabilizing these countries for
98:51
various political reasons and then
98:53
they’re also cutting off trade with
98:55
these countries and then wandering in
98:58
shock and horror why they’re coming here
99:00
to try to not starve to death if you did
99:04
two things if the government did two
99:07
things
99:07
stop destabilizing the rest of the world
99:09
and open up free unrestricted trade to
99:12
the rest of the world besides all of the
99:15
effects that all of the positive effects
99:16
that would have for us in the lowering
99:18
of the cost of goods and services and
99:20
opening up markets for our exports as
99:22
well as the dividend of not having to
99:25
pay for a a nearly trillion dollar a
99:28
year military that you know blows up the
99:30
earth putting those things aside you’d
99:33
also see a drastic reduction in people
99:36
seeking refuge and coming illegally or
99:39
legally because their countries would be
99:41
better their countries would be far
99:43
better off if we weren’t East if our
99:45
government wasn’t destabilizing them
99:47
those two things alone without even
99:48
touching the welfare state here’s the
99:51
other thing about the welfare state get
99:53
rid of the welfare state something like
99:56
uh what is it half a million immigrants
99:59
are gonna come to the US this year on
100:02
average from the last few years that’s
100:05
legal and illegal right roughly a half
100:07
million nett coming here four million
100:10
Americans are going to be born eight
100:12
times as many Americans are going to be
100:15
born during that same time and the vast
100:19
majority of them are gonna vote either
100:21
Republican or Democrat which means
100:24
they’re going to be voting for the
100:26
welfare state so if we’re sailing
100:29
against you they’re voting against you
100:31
and them but but you that’s what matters
100:34
right now in the moment is they’re
100:35
voting against your interests if we say
100:38
that we should control migration control
100:41
otherwise
100:41
peaceful human activity because of the
100:43
potential for the growth of the welfare
100:45
state and that that is a legitimate
100:47
reason to stop otherwise peaceful human
100:50
activity why are we not applying that to
100:52
people being born why are we not saying
100:56
one child policy like China did for that
100:58
very reason
100:59
why are we not saying you can only have
101:00
one kid maybe two kids if you’re in a
101:02
rural area but you know because you know
101:06
we just got it we got to really clamp
101:07
down on this whole this whole welfare
101:10
state thing because that is a far
101:12
greater threat than legal or illegal
101:14
immigration and in fact according to
101:16
Milton Friedman and and many other
101:19
libertarians illegal immigrant in the
101:22
case of the welfare state illegal
101:23
immigration is actually preferable to
101:25
legal immigration because it’s harder
101:27
for them to get on welfare so that’s a
101:29
whole other subject in Social Security
101:31
here’s that my last take on this when it
101:35
comes to immigration I’ve completely
101:37
blanked but I’d like literally as I said
101:41
on like um the state the government
101:45
government bad government bad
101:48
immigration good man I just complete so
101:52
going off of what you were talking about
101:54
when you’re talking about the welfare
101:56
and the entitlements and everything else
101:58
we have a couple people murmuring that
102:02
are running for office right now they’re
102:03
talking about how Social Security and
102:06
and all these entitlement welfare
102:08
systems are gonna be insolvent already
102:11
so why not just nip it in the bud and
102:13
stand up and say stop wasting my money
102:18
give me my money I will donate it I’ll
102:21
take care of my grandma I’ll take care
102:23
of grandpa grandpa grandpa was so good
102:25
to me I remember so many great
102:27
Christmases he got me a little BB gun I
102:30
got banned from school for it because I
102:32
put pictures of it up online and I live
102:34
in New Jersey but I that was a great BB
102:38
gun Thank You grandpa so I’m gonna take
102:40
care of my grandpa so don’t don’t you
102:42
taxpayers don’t worry about it I got
102:44
this I got this let me take care of him
102:48
let my family take care of him he
102:50
created a big family I won’t ask you
102:53
guys let’s just end the damn
102:55
welfare system and make it to where it’s
102:58
a non-issue if we stop providing and
103:01
subsidizing everybody because they’re
103:04
alive and allow people to prosper on
103:07
their own and allow them to be
103:08
responsible then those who are
103:11
irresponsible can rely upon a social
103:14
safety net rather than a government
103:16
mandated net yep I fail to see how a a
103:21
civilized society requires a government
103:25
force to exist yeah absolutely and to go
103:30
back to the point of well that’ll we
103:33
know damn well that’ll never happen okay
103:35
well if then in that case we also know
103:38
that they’ll never actually close up the
103:41
border because it’s not in their
103:42
interest to do that we also know that
103:44
they’ve which is way easier uh ending
103:48
the welfare state is way easier than
103:50
stopping all human beings from entering
103:53
a gigantic land mass across forests and
103:56
oceans and and deserts like that’s a lot
104:00
easier because when planes are coming in
104:02
and you airplanes tunnels boats give me
104:05
a frickin break because because you
104:07
would have to like stop all travel and
104:09
that’s obviously not gonna happen so
104:10
within this porous system of people from
104:12
avocados avocado I love first of all I
104:17
love avocados but I also love the 50% of
104:20
American goods that have at least one
104:21
Mexican component in them when we’re
104:25
talking about Mexican trade they are our
104:27
largest trading partner they are a
104:29
larger trading partner than Canada are
104:31
well they are larger but a larger
104:33
trading partner than China gasoline you
104:37
like gas for your car I mean it’s it’s
104:39
just it’s it’s it’s crazy and so if
104:41
we’re saying well that’s not gonna
104:42
happen okay fine then none of these
104:44
other things are gonna happen either and
104:45
and it which is very possibly true but
104:49
if we’re talking what should be done
104:51
then let’s talk what really should be
104:52
done ending the welfare state ending the
104:55
the destabilization of other countries
104:57
and and opening up trade so that fewer
105:01
of these people need to come and the
105:03
ones that do come or come in to work
105:04
hard and contribute or to start a
105:06
business or whatever they’re coming to
105:07
contribute and be a net
105:09
contributor and not drain your taxes
105:11
just like all the people can born here
105:13
how about them too and then and then the
105:16
the point that I finally remembered was
105:17
that for the people that say well
105:19
they’re taking our jobs your threat is
105:23
not from someone who just got here who
105:26
probably doesn’t speak English your
105:28
threat is from the fact that government
105:30
through taxes regulations and and
105:34
various other barriers to entry that
105:36
they’ve created make your labor less
105:40
valuable than that of someone who just
105:42
got here who barely speaks the language
105:45
if at all and who hiring them risks
105:49
prosecution they’re still more valuable
105:52
than you because government made you so
105:56
expensive to hire and I’m not talking
105:58
minimum wage I’m talking regulations
106:00
taxes when you hire an American you have
106:03
to pay half of their payroll tax and
106:05
half of their social security you have
106:08
you also have to make sure that they
106:09
have entitlements and and everything
106:11
else that they mandate there are so many
106:13
mandates and the higher up in the wage
106:14
scale it goes the worse it gets most
106:16
states now have required pension
106:18
contributions it’s absurd what it costs
106:21
to hire an American and most of it’s not
106:23
to your benefit most of its just going
106:25
to the government and it makes illegal
106:29
labor labor that they can be prosecuted
106:32
for hiring labor that is not going to be
106:36
as good as yours it might be as good as
106:37
yours but it’s it’s not going to speak
106:39
the language skilled unskilled whatever
106:42
it makes it automatically way more
106:46
attractive than yours and that is
106:47
entirely the government’s fault imagine
106:50
if a scenario in which I am holding a
106:52
gun to Jason Jason’s head like this cuz
106:55
I’m way bigger than him right now
106:57
and I go Jason I’m robbing you every day
107:01
and I rob Jason every day and then some
107:03
poor other schmuck figures out a way to
107:05
get around me so that I can’t rob him
107:07
and Jason’s mad not at me for robbing
107:11
him he’s mad at that guy who was able to
107:15
get away from me it’s hard when when
107:18
this is like the mirror effect the
107:20
Jason’s not mad at me for
107:22
he’s mad at the guy who got away from it
107:24
he’d say hey you robbed him too that is
107:26
the anti-immigration argument in a
107:29
nutshell hey that guy it’s not fair that
107:32
I’m being robbed and made my labor made
107:34
resset less attractive do that to him
107:36
too and to expand upon that while you’re
107:40
holding that gun against me and while
107:42
you’re taking debate you do it to me now
107:44
Oh dip dip there we go all right all I’m
107:51
taking your money yeah that is really
107:56
difficult while I’m sitting here in and
107:59
you’re taking or I’m taking your money
108:01
I’m gonna take that money and I’m gonna
108:03
put it into healthcare services I’m
108:04
gonna put it into education I’m put into
108:06
a lot of different things right and that
108:09
person that’s gone around this system
108:11
potentially could be utilizing those
108:13
systems they’re using my roads and
108:15
everything else and so as a result
108:18
you’re gonna get mad at that guy because
108:22
he’s utilizing the system that you’re
108:24
paying for exactly instead of mad at the
108:26
guy with the gun yep like we keep
108:29
getting mad at each other we keep
108:31
allowing this division to happen instead
108:33
of looking at those who are dividing us
108:35
instead of looking at the actual
108:38
omnipotent being that is government and
108:41
actually holding its feet to the fire
108:43
and actually understanding what its
108:44
purpose is and what it’s been doing and
108:46
understanding what what role it is done
108:50
in order to make our lives worse and in
108:53
order to ensure that there’s more and
108:55
more division yeah exactly exactly I’m
108:58
gonna change this out because I don’t
108:59
want my my silence to be construed as
109:01
consent to having a gun fake fake gun
109:04
pointed at my head
109:05
so yeah I think we covered that I I
109:07
think you need to apply free-market
109:09
principles in the end the immigration
109:11
problem or the problems that are coming
109:13
as a result of that whole prophets not
109:17
immigrations not the problem the problem
109:18
is everything else related to the
109:20
government we have a question from a
109:21
really great guys spike Cohen Jason you
109:24
hate baseball and mangoes why are you a
109:26
communist and how do you plan to stop
109:28
being that so if you’re a fan of
109:34
baseball collar
109:36
mangos communism pineapple on pizza I
109:40
have no support for you but I think that
109:43
this is where you project onto others by
109:46
saying if you oppose if you oppose those
109:50
things that somehow your communist but
109:52
it’s only communist that really enjoy
109:54
that stuff and so I think what we can
109:57
all agree on is that putting trash
110:01
literal trash like just take your trash
110:03
can dump it on your pizza that would
110:04
taste better than pineapple if you wanna
110:06
ad how does this become about pineapple
110:09
hold on hold on hold on we’re gonna
110:11
because I got fired over this alright um
110:14
for those of you guys on unaware we had
110:17
this conversation in the muddy waters
110:19
chat which is why I’m sure it came up to
110:21
me oh yeah
110:22
oh no I started after bringing up that
110:24
pineapples do not belong on pizza if you
110:26
enjoy mangoes you might as well just
110:29
admit that you enjoy but stuff at every
110:33
waking moment I’m calling the police
110:35
emphatically shaped objects that I’m
110:37
calling the police the Canadian police
110:42
go keep going I want to be you know you
110:47
you enjoy but stuff with the phallic Lee
110:49
shaped things that have sandpaper
110:51
literal sandpaper on them because the
110:54
more bleeding the better and baseball is
110:57
the most boring sport out there I’m a
110:59
Canadian please yes hi hi yes hi
111:02
longtime fan can you get a mountain
111:07
chain
111:07
I need a Mountie in Greenville County I
111:10
need a Mountie in Greenville County
111:11
South Carolina um I have a comm yeah I
111:17
have a communist oh you like telling the
111:20
like or you like comment they need to
111:24
come and apologize immediately alright
111:28
they’re happy they agree with you
111:31
because they’re also communist that’s
111:33
fine so and and for the baseball thing
111:36
just real quick baseball of the sports
111:39
is equivalent to the Saints for the NFL
111:42
alright just absolute garbage just needs
111:45
to be wiped off the face of the planet
111:47
that’s a shame if you
111:49
still out there oh yes shots fired I’m
111:52
sure so I think you knew that this was
111:56
essentially a probationary episode after
111:59
your little your little your little
112:00
outburst on the group chat there I don’t
112:07
know where we go from this my friend I
112:09
don’t know where we go we’re gonna have
112:10
some invention we’re gonna have to have
112:14
a huddle I’m probably bringing your wife
112:16
and I more than likely we’re gonna have
112:18
some more candid screenshots from your
112:20
wife that we can use against you in your
112:23
trial so well that’s good so we have one
112:27
more question before we go and decide
112:30
your fate we have one more question from
112:33
Jacob LaBelle another longtime viewer
112:35
and I feel terrible because I still
112:39
haven’t really read up on this so I’m
112:40
really gonna let you take the lead on
112:41
this one he said what’s up with Putin
112:43
and pence being recalled at the same
112:46
time that the EU convened a special
112:47
security session and then I’m adding the
112:50
Holt because you mentioned it the whole
112:51
Russian sub thing so tell us about that
112:53
because I I did not have the time today
112:55
to look into this yeah so yesterday was
112:58
a day of fuckery to put it bluntly okay
113:02
yesterday there was a lot of questions a
113:04
lot of questions and absolutely no
113:06
answers in accordance with how the media
113:08
normally functions for us so yesterday
113:11
while quoted as heading towards New
113:17
Hampshire I believe it was oh well
113:19
Mike Pence was turned around oh I
113:22
thought you said the sub was okay I
113:24
thought you meant the sub was headed to
113:25
New Hampshire okay no no I want I want
113:28
to cover everything okay okay okay go
113:30
ahead well on the way to New Hampshire
113:33
the Mike Pence plane Air Force two was
113:38
told to turn about you have to come back
113:42
for an unspecified situation in
113:45
Washington so we still the next day
113:50
still don’t really have any answers to
113:52
this so everyone has been scouring and
113:55
trying to figure out what is it that
113:57
could have possibly been this
113:58
quote-unquote situation that’s going to
114:01
bring the vice president back to
114:03
back to Washington now at the same time
114:05
there’s a couple people saying that this
114:08
was following in line with Air Force one
114:10
where the president United States Donald
114:12
Trump was also flying so you have both
114:15
of these planes coming back to
114:16
Washington so obviously it’s a big
114:18
serious huge deal not a situation run
114:22
emergency would be closer to what people
114:25
would expect right we still don’t have
114:27
any answers mark short who was with Vice
114:31
President Mike Pence when they were
114:33
called back said that we don’t there
114:36
will be more information provided later
114:38
and said that it would be weeks from now
114:40
so we don’t know my oh wow so oh wow
114:43
looking at the world and what’s been
114:45
going on obviously Iran has been a big a
114:49
big questioning factor of something
114:51
happening there so people were scouring
114:53
trying to figure out what’s coming out
114:54
from Iran did Iran have another
114:56
quote/unquote false flag attack did they
114:59
have another event happening over there
115:01
what’s going on with Iran so far I
115:04
haven’t been able to find anything going
115:06
on there nothing else in the Middle East
115:07
nothing driving over there but over
115:10
there in Russia President Vladimir Putin
115:16
he was also recalled and so there was a
115:20
submersible let me see if I can get the
115:23
actual name of this a scientific a deep
115:26
submersible boat basically just dives
115:29
down real deep gets all the the deep
115:31
searches and and everything else this is
115:33
a nuclear-powered ship that had actually
115:36
a nuclear-powered boat I apologize for
115:39
those you enable people you understand
115:40
the difference there was 14 Russian Navy
115:44
servicemen that were killed in a fire
115:46
from there okay now we don’t know what
115:50
caused the fire but it has already been
115:53
reported or sorry I just I had misread
115:57
the tweet when I read it earlier but
115:59
there are no abnormal levels of
116:00
radiation so there was nuclear power so
116:02
it’s not it’s not a concern for you know
116:06
like a true noble to or anything else
116:08
right right okay but we know that Russia
116:13
has has obtained their boat so it’s
116:16
it’s not like they’re their last
116:18
submarine that went down that they
116:19
basically told every country if you go
116:21
and collect our boat we will that’s an
116:23
act of war we will kill you let our
116:25
servicemen die they have obtained it
116:27
back they put out the fire and only 14
116:30
members were killed and that was killed
116:32
by smoke inhalation or suffocation so we
116:37
don’t we don’t have enough information
116:39
yet but it could be between those two
116:44
things the concern of if there was a
116:45
fire if there was a new release of
116:48
nuclear fission products into the
116:50
atmosphere what that could have meant
116:51
for the surrounding areas
116:53
you know after Fukushima happened the
116:56
nuclear tension and the the timidness
116:59
when it comes to nuclear things are
117:01
still very real in this in this world
117:04
that could have been enough to spur up
117:07
enough to where we need to have you know
117:09
the the big brains if you will if we
117:11
want to call trump and pence that back
117:14
in back at the reins and and making sure
117:17
that they’re making the right calls so
117:19
we don’t have enough information so I’m
117:21
sorry Jacob we can’t give you a better
117:23
answer than that well I like how you
117:26
started it it’s a lot of he going
117:28
on like some something something that
117:30
was the big whoopsie Doodle happen
117:33
yesterday and it may or may not have had
117:35
to do with the sub my immediate hot tag
117:37
is wondering remembering the time of the
117:40
Cold War all the boats were research
117:43
boats and you know we’re just research
117:46
we’re just taking some pictures down
117:48
here in our nuclear-powered ship now it
117:51
was it a sub or a boat I don’t know a
117:55
deep submersibles so a deep submersible
117:57
can be a submarine um as a former
118:01
Submariner there are submarines that can
118:05
go excessively deep for no reason
118:07
whatsoever there’s no need for it so
118:09
they don’t we don’t go nearly as deep
118:12
anymore but you can still do that with
118:14
an actual submarine but you if you have
118:16
a small circular ship it’s actually it’s
118:18
better for for going deep tube rather
118:20
than a long phallic Lee shaped submarine
118:24
which is more designed to be down there
118:26
longer periods of time and and travel
118:29
the ocean
118:30
as opposed to something that just goes
118:32
deep deep down so this research vessel
118:35
there may have been some kind of I’m
118:37
again and I’m using total speculation
118:39
here it may have been more than just a
118:40
research vessel in the u.s. use some
118:43
kind of hacking tool that screw them up
118:44
and then whatever or it could be
118:46
completely unrelated
118:46
so they said so we won’t even know for
118:48
possibly four weeks what that was about
118:50
if then yeah very good and we waiting
118:56
until everything gets Declassified okay
118:58
and then we just got a question also
119:00
from Jacob LaBelle and I I have no idea
119:04
what he’s talking about um he said by
119:08
the way Chris Reynolds said Chernobyl
119:09
too would be a great Netflix sequel this
119:15
time it’s personal like all the mutants
119:18
so excited for noble Mutant Ninja
119:20
Turtles yeah quick side story so some
119:24
people know some people don’t so let me
119:27
just come out with it I was a nuclear
119:29
operator onboard submarines for the Navy
119:31
I was a mechanic who worked and operated
119:35
the the auxiliary systems as well as
119:38
worked on the nuclear plant itself okay
119:41
and so one of the things through
119:42
training we actually had to sit down and
119:44
watch it felt like 600 years of
119:48
Chernobyl information and do research
119:50
and understand the failures there and
119:52
turn doable to man a if you fail once
119:57
right shame on shame on you fail twice
120:00
it’s a Russia stop stop having nukes
120:04
America has already gotten to that point
120:06
by the way right right really yeah yeah
120:09
we are I mean when you look at like they
120:11
have these charts that show sorry I made
120:15
the mistake of responding to someone as
120:17
you were going you’re good when you look
120:19
at the lists of like who has the nukes
120:23
and there’s like you know the US has
120:26
this ridiculous amount and Russia has it
120:28
smaller but also ridiculous mountain
120:30
than China has this mount and each you
120:31
know then you’ll have countries I have
120:32
like four and then two in there and then
120:34
Jeff has one yes Jeff Jeff is important
120:38
Jeff don’t f with Jeff and if it’s one
120:43
of those Jeff’s
120:44
ge o FF were all screwed yes but he he
120:48
is the one that is actually saving the
120:50
world like people need to understand
120:51
this the mutual discussion what you were
120:53
talking about before mutual assured
120:54
destruction from Jeff yeah what more do
120:59
you want right we’re gonna nuke that one
121:01
guy he’s gonna nuke a million people
121:03
that is not that is disproportional and
121:05
trump will make tweets making sure that
121:07
people know that as a diss force
121:09
disproportionate attack and so we cannot
121:11
nuke Jeff oh yeah well Trump was gonna
121:13
nuke Jeff but then he found out like 200
121:16
other Jeff’s would be killed um and some
121:20
Jake’s too some Jeff’s and some Jake’s
121:22
um so I have any one Jason’s alone yeah
121:27
yeah so I have Oh
121:29
so anyway Jacob LaBelle asked about the
121:32
Greek what’s a Cypriot hold on he asked
121:36
about the Cypriot Syria thing do you
121:39
know what that even do you know what
121:42
that is I know no I don’t know I I am
121:48
I’m all out of ideas right now the
121:50
Cypriot Syria thing is in our thoughts
121:52
and prayers Jacob and then I have one
121:55
more question here and and it’s a good
121:58
one and it really is truly a gotcha
122:00
question including for me so I feel
122:03
terrible because and so he says so it
122:12
was from Chris Reynolds attorney-at-law
122:14
he said the natural rights list them
122:20
yeah so I’m gonna let you start on that
122:23
yeah that’s a do you want me to start on
122:25
that I like an start on that because
122:28
you’re gonna say much more eloquently
122:30
than me and your it’s gonna sound much
122:31
more polished
122:32
nice yeah I like I like that’s
122:34
definitely why you should do this first
122:36
yeah first cuz the lines way better go
122:38
with natural rights
122:40
what is your natural rights what how do
122:42
they get derived and where do they come
122:45
from so getting a little bit further
122:47
into my ideology in my views and and
122:49
everything else
122:50
I am a pro-life libertarian rights are
122:54
not they don’t get a stowed upon you at
122:57
a certain
122:57
stage or a certain point within the
122:59
human development cycle once you are
123:01
born you’re basically a free entity now
123:06
of course during the very early
123:09
development stages of the human you’re
123:11
kind of attached to somebody and that’s
123:15
that’s how that works but right right
123:17
once you divorce from that then you’re
123:19
your own free entities in order to
123:21
exercise your rights you’re more free to
123:23
exercise your rights at the you don’t
123:25
just gain them so what are your rights
123:28
what do they actually mean your right or
123:31
what you choose to do with your body now
123:35
there are bad examples or bad uses of
123:39
your rights and there are good uses of
123:40
your rights what is an example of a bad
123:42
use it is to utilize yourself your
123:45
property your whatever in order to
123:48
infringe upon somebody else’s property
123:50
or rights or whatever it is so as long
123:53
as you’re acting uninhibited then you’re
123:56
free to exercise your rights and as long
123:58
as you’re not infringing upon others
123:59
then you would be on the quote-unquote
124:03
good side of utilizing your rights this
124:06
includes the right to self-defense the
124:08
freedom of speech the freedom to
124:09
practice whatever religion you want I
124:11
believe that there’s a leprechaun on the
124:13
Dark Side of the Moon strumming a guitar
124:14
with his nipples and I can believe that
124:17
because I have the freedom of whatever
124:18
religion I want and I and I want it and
124:23
I want to join in inbox me more info on
124:27
that after the episode you know I have
124:31
the freedom of my property and so if I
124:33
have a house if I have a car if I have a
124:37
chest I have a book bag whatever it is
124:40
that’s mine you don’t get to go into it
124:43
you don’t get a search it you don’t get
124:44
to infiltrate it you don’t get this spy
124:46
on it it’s mine let it alone so I own
124:49
whatever I can create or whatever I just
124:52
Lee obtain so if I want to interact with
124:56
spikes got a a communistic bottle of
125:00
water and I’m I’m parched at the moment
125:03
and I want to give him a communist ik a
125:07
piece of currency also called a mango I
125:09
could give him a mango
125:11
he gives me his comm you uh you know I I
125:16
let you on my show this man on my
125:25
anniversary on my anniversary comes on
125:33
to tell my viewing audience that I’m a
125:37
communist no continue no continue I want
125:39
to I want to hear the rest of this of
125:40
your of your alright keep going
125:42
so if I want to give you my commie
125:45
currency for something that I think
125:47
would be a value and you find it to be a
125:49
value then I can make that trade and
125:51
that’s a natural right I own my property
125:53
you on your property and we can justly
125:54
trade but between us
125:57
now we’re natural rights are infringed
126:03
upon is whenever we have a third party
126:06
coming in and telling us you can’t trade
126:08
that you can’t do this I get a look into
126:10
your property I get to prevent you from
126:13
from being able to defend yourself with
126:15
whatever you decide you want to defend
126:18
yourself with you can’t practice this
126:20
religion even though you’re not hurting
126:22
somebody else we don’t like you saying
126:24
this we don’t like you doing that you
126:27
can’t make means you can’t do this that
126:29
any other then we having the
126:31
infringement and that of course is the
126:34
only thing that has ever been backed by
126:36
the people has been the government doing
126:37
that another one that is not so
126:40
well-liked as the mob and or at the
126:42
Mafia or gangs even though they’re
126:45
pretty well synonymous with one another
126:46
crime and so natural rights are
126:50
important we need to be looking at them
126:53
and we need to be trying to restore as
126:56
many natural rights as possible so we
126:58
can be independent because those
127:01
infringement prevent us from being as
127:03
prosperous and as good as we could be
127:07
because the government sucks and wants
127:09
to have a monopoly on us it’s so
127:14
difficult whenever somebody says natural
127:16
rights and then go yeah no I know you’ve
127:20
done a great job uh and and and you’re
127:23
right because if you if you let infringe
127:24
Tapan they accumulate over time and and
127:27
again going back to the immigration
127:29
argument what happens is people go well
127:31
if you’re infringing on me you have to
127:33
do these other infringement to make sure
127:34
that that person can’t get over on me
127:36
because of this infringement and it just
127:38
gets worse and worse and worse and worse
127:39
yes and you end up with a terrible
127:40
terrible system um getting into like cuz
127:43
I when I saw the question I’m like I
127:45
specifically promised Jason no gotcha
127:47
questions but that he was like natural
127:50
rights list um oh okay one you know so
127:54
uh here’s how I’ll try to list them I
127:57
guess or at least explain my take on it
127:59
which is pretty much what what Jason
128:01
said but I’m gonna try to like frame it
128:03
within you know you have rights one two
128:05
three and so on
128:07
natural rights come from the concept of
128:09
self ownership so I guess that’s your
128:11
first natural right you own yourself and
128:14
that’s sort of an inherent intuitive
128:16
thing that even in theory anyway
128:19
anything for anyone from communists to
128:22
you know anyone outside of the the you
128:25
know like the fascist spectrum who they
128:28
don’t believe you have rights fascists
128:29
believe that it’s all about the state
128:31
communists also do but they don’t say it
128:33
they believe you have rights but their
128:35
concept of what rights are are
128:36
completely out there but they will agree
128:39
that we own ourselves you own you own
128:42
yourself and you own so you own your
128:44
body you and and everything comes from
128:46
that so you can speak freely because
128:48
it’s your body and you could say what
128:50
you want you own your the consent to
128:53
whether or not someone’s using your body
128:55
or you’re using your body for someone
128:57
else or or whatever so labor and things
128:59
like that you are you have the right to
129:01
your labor because it comes from your
129:03
body when you mix your labor with other
129:06
resources that you’ve accumulated you
129:08
create property you have a right to that
129:10
I can’t wait to find out why you’re
129:12
laughing and you you have a right so so
129:15
you you have a right to I don’t have a
129:17
specific list but if you’ve never you
129:20
own yourself and everything from there
129:24
and your voluntary interactions with
129:28
others and your property that you’ve
129:32
accumulated all of your rights fall
129:34
within all of that and I tell me what’s
129:35
so funny
129:37
beside its it was about is about blood
129:42
blood stuff is this a blood stuff thank
129:44
you
129:47
I like it find out stuff stuff stuff the
129:50
but stuff um yeah no it’s yeah you’re
129:54
absolutely right and and the basic
129:56
principle there like you started off
129:57
with with self ownership you own
129:59
yourself and so you own what yourself
130:01
produces run everything that that comes
130:03
from it and you protect yourself you you
130:06
own yourself you sell yourself you trade
130:08
yourself you do whatever it is you want
130:10
and then yep any any inhibition or any
130:15
hurdles that come along the way is I’m
130:18
it is wrong in tomorrow you have a
130:21
natural you have a natural right to but
130:24
stuff natural its natural but stuff
130:30
organic organic free-range non-gmo but
130:37
stuff that’s how we’re ending this
130:38
episode Jason it has been an absolute
130:41
thrill to have you on I’m so happy you
130:43
were able to join me and before I let
130:46
you go I want to give you a chance to
130:47
give any final thoughts specifically
130:50
about BUTT STUFF know anything you want
130:52
to talk about anything you want to
130:53
promote any events coming up with the
130:55
Greenville or South Carolina libertarian
130:57
party’s anything you want to talk about
131:00
anything you think that we should have
131:01
covered I give you as much time as you
131:04
need Jason Lyon the floor is yours
131:07
well I appreciate that I first want to
131:10
say thank you so much Mike that this has
131:12
been an amazing time filled with
131:15
laughter and joy and it will certainly
131:17
be one of the most memorable events that
131:20
I have been to and you know to be able
131:24
to celebrate one year with you and and I
131:27
actually did go through and I watched
131:29
some of your older episodes and to see
131:31
how far you’ve developed in this it’s
131:35
fantastic and I I love what you’ve been
131:39
doing and I will always be here to
131:42
support you and to help you in and thank
131:44
you um I want to help you grow because I
131:47
I don’t think that there’s anybody out
131:50
there that
131:51
it’s doing quite what you’re doing so
131:53
thank you so much for everything that
131:55
you’re doing it’s truly an honor to come
131:56
on with you on your show the thing that
132:02
I want to plug is here in South Carolina
132:06
potentially I may be may be Swindell aim
132:09
the the great Spike Cohen the local Jew
132:12
– coming up – Florence County here at
132:15
home and we will potentially be having
132:20
as many if not all of the libertarian
132:23
presidential candidates for 2020 coming
132:27
on to one debate stage for one night
132:30
where spike in myself maybe maybe
132:33
sitting there and and maybe maybe will
132:36
be able to get Matt up there Matt better
132:37
freaking come up if we get that yes yes
132:40
and and be able to come up and and come
132:44
out and so if you can’t travel the
132:47
country if you can’t travel around the
132:49
world you can’t get your visa on time to
132:51
come here we have we will be voting on
132:58
the streaming it out and and being able
133:01
to make that available to you guys so
133:02
this November big day coming up for that
133:07
that’s coming from the South Carolina
133:09
Libertarian Party so big shout out to
133:11
them for for setting up and organizing
133:13
yeah yeah my apologies to them because
133:16
I’m gonna be one of the big portions of
133:20
helping out with the audio and video but
133:21
we will make sure that it is up to snuff
133:23
and okay fantastic production there and
133:27
I want to give a shout out to Matt –
133:30
Shane – Brent and of course – spike I’ve
133:34
been pretty ruthless to you all and I
133:38
love you all and I appreciate everything
133:40
that you guys have been doing and you
133:42
know we can all have a great time we can
133:44
have this infighting and it’s it’s
133:46
beautiful for us all to be growing and
133:48
to be able to have fun while doing it
133:50
and oh yeah last thing last but not
133:53
least if you guys want to be able to
133:55
find follow me not only can you follow
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of truth so just the one little plug
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there and and with that I just got to
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say again tonight was amazing thank you
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so much spike for letting me come on
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yeah absolutely it’s all in great fun
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you are fired
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but it was in great form and I love the
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visa right so it guys if you’re not able
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to get your visa to come to South
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Carolina from ok I think I didn’t catch
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that I just got the visa and I’m like
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yeah for all those booming tone Ian’s
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trying to come to South Carolina without
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going through my legal process so ya
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know Carolinians you you use lesser
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Carolinians stop trying to come to best
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at best Carolina so yeah again thank you
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so much for joining and coming on this
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was been freaking awesome I I know we
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went way over what we would have
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expected but it was because it was that
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good of an episode so thank you again
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I’m gonna make sure that we’re not
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missing out on any last-minute questions
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and Kelsey says baseball and I’ll just
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leave that up to the audience to decide
135:20
what she’s asking there but yes baseball
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is for non-communist okay good okay well
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it’s it’s whatever but again thank you
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if you can just stick around I’m gonna
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talk to you during the outro if that’s
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okay guys guys thank you again for
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joining us for this awesome
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one-year anniversary episode I’m so
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excited
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doubt that we’ve gotten this far I’m so
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excited with how well the show is done
135:48
really really had an absolute blast be
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sure to join us you’re not joining us
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tomorrow because tomorrow is the July
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4th
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be sure to celebrate tomorrow the day
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that Americans rounded up banded
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together and killed thousands upon
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thousands of law enforcement officials
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and then later had new law enforcement
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officials imposed those same taxes but
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that part we’re not so that’s not the
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part we’re celebrating
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it’s all reading that book we’re just
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that’s not the fun part we celebrate
136:22
that on tax day on its April 15th that
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we celebrate that on July 4th we
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celebrate the old cops getting thrown
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out so be sure to do that be safe have a
136:33
fun time eat way more than you should
136:36
but do it safely and have a fun time
136:38
don’t eat don’t listen to me just have a
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fun time and then are you doing a show
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Friday I will be doing a show Friday
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okay well shabbat shalom everyone it’s
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Jason Lyon on Friday and and then have a
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great weekend and then join Jason again
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are you doing Monday – I will be doing
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Monday’s Jason Lyon mr. America the
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bearded truth on Monday and then tune in
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Tuesday for the for the muddy waters of
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freedom we’re Matt right and I parse
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through the week’s events with the
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giddiness and joy of a laughing child
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hey um and then on Wednesday be sure to
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tune in again right here on Wednesday
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probably at 8:00 Eastern ish from my
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fellow Americans the one point one year
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anniversary episode and I think who’s my
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guest I don’t know who my guest is I
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have a guest I just don’t remember who
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it is you’re not gonna believe who would
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enter great guess it’s a great guest yes
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huge guest best guest the best guess the
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best guest so be sure to tune in next
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week guys thank you again so much we’ve
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had a great time enjoy the rest of your
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evening and god bless you
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