The Keystone Party candidate for Governor, Joe Soloski, joins Matt and Spike to discuss his plans for Pennsylvania including cutting spending, cutting taxes, and more.
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the one the only
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joe soloski
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jose thanks so much for joining us uh
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here on muddy waters uh how are things
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been going
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well fantastic thank you both spike and
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matt for having me they’ve been going
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just great
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uh have been enjoying the campaign
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things are certainly
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starting to heat up now we’re only 90
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days out
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60 days out really
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that’s crazy because you have been if i
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recall you’ve been running for
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pennsylvania governor since i believe
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1974 it feels like this at this point
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when you pretty close uh just december
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5th uh 2020.
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oh is it really it was only since then
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man i’ll tell you it has time has been
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creeping as we’ve had fun uh but uh yeah
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it’s it’s so you’ve been at this for uh
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two years now and uh so it’s coming up
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we’re less than three months out and uh
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you know tell us what what have you uh
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what are your main things that you’re
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running on i know you said that probably
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the biggest single thing is that uh the
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budget for
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pennsylvania has doubled is that correct
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yeah 2002
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pennsylvania budget and i’m speaking of
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the operating portion that they always
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talk about
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you know our legislature and our
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governor i mean they they are supposed
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to have the new upcoming budget nailed
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down by july 1st every year this year
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they missed it
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they finally put something together but
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they missed it for a while
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uh but that operating portion
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in 2002 20 billion dollars
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now it’s 42 billion and
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that’s an astronomical increase in just
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20 years
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the money just keeps rolling in they
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keep finding new revenue streams and uh
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the uh the economic infrastructure here
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is vibrant enough that it’s been able to
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keep up but uh dang
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they’ve got a real spending problem here
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they never think of cutting spending and
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that’s going to be first on my list and
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i’ll leave from the top
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uh i’m going to start with my salary
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pennsylvania’s current governor governor
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wolf gets a salary of over two hundred
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and five thousand dollars a year only
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new york and california beat us
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uh 205 brand is a lot of money
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so uh i’m going to be cutting my pay and
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i understand
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the first day i go into office i’ll be
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operating under
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an existing budget
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right but but i’ll have to have the
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upcoming july budget now and i will be
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cutting my pay by that time by
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65
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down to just under 70 000
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that’ll make pennsylvania just under the
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state of maine we will all of a sudden
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be the lowest
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paid governorship in the country so if i
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can do that
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lead by example and i can’t imagine
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anybody who’s going to fight me i’m
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cutting my own salary now i can go to
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our legislature
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they are the highest paid legislature in
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the nation
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uh you come through the door you’re
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making almost a hundred grand first term
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and i think uh with their yeah they have
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they implemented of all things it used
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to be years ago they wanted to have a
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pay increase you know it had to be
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approved they had to pass a bill it had
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to be approved they were accountable to
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their constituents then not all that
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many years ago they they put through a
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law that basically says hey we just get
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an increase every year automatic january
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thanks
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and right now incoming freshman
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legislators starting this january will
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make a hundred grand a year
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as a pennsylvania legislature and we’ve
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got 203 of them
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that is insane okay so uh it’s a 235 100
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000
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so they’re getting am i correct that
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they’re getting uh 20
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wow
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yeah so 20 is that 20 million a year and
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now you’re talking about let’s add on
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our 50 state senators
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you know they’re the same neck in the
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woods a little more uh
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we need to be i need to be able to go to
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them and say look guys it’s your turn
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this is what i need you to do i need to
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cut your pay
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cut your pay
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this is ridiculous not only are you
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going to cut your pay uh we need to do
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two more things you know i want to see
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ranked choice voting implemented so i
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need that bill on my desk
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i need a bill on my desk it’s probably
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going to take a constitutional amendment
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but the residence pennsylvania won’t
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fight this one let’s make our full time
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one of only 10 in the nation full-time
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state legislature part-time
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and then after you do that guys i need
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you to cut your page
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and all of a sudden we will be in line
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with the rest of the nation do i think
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any of that’s going to go over
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oh hell no uh i don’t think they’ll even
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pay me the time of day but i’ll then
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after cutting my own pay
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i’ll be able to
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use a megaphone every day that i’m in
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office and put a spotlight on what these
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guys are doing
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and how they’re constantly sticking it
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to their pennsylvania constituents
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i’ll be in the driver’s seat and then um
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the other thing i’m going to be doing
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when it comes to
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cut not just cutting my own pay but i
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want to see our state budget cut by at
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least five percent per year that’s
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extremely doable when it’s doubled in
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just 20.
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uh there’s a lot of waste i i saw a uh
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i saw a news story come across today i
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don’t know if it was the department of
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labor in this industry or what
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pennsylvania department was
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but they have uh they’ve got over 700
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million dollars allocated to update
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their website
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update their website you’re talking
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three quarters of a million dollars
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that’s quite a website
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oh my god
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and when they’re done it probably won’t
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work well
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so this is the kind of place
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a lot of waste
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um and what i’m gonna do every year
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every year the legislature is gonna
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finally have to put a bill on my desk
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for the upcoming year’s budget and i
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have
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constantly said that the veto pet
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is extremely powerful
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if i don’t get the cuts i’m looking for
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i will shut down pennsylvania government
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annually and i
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won’t think twice about it but
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there are mechanisms in place to make
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sure people that desperately need
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benefits unemployment benefits and the
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like will continue to get their checks
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unfortunately i think that same
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mechanism keeps the legislature pay
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which is a crime truly a crime but i
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will veto that and shut down government
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in the state and hopefully save us a lot
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of money just doing that alone until
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they finally put a decent reasonable
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sane budget on my desk every year
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that’s crazy
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go ahead i just did a quick uh i just
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did a quick search and um
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so here in florida
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the legislature has a base salary of
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just under 30 000 a year twenty nine
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thousand six hundred ninety seven
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south carolina
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has a salary
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what would you think it is if you just
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had to gas off the top of your head
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south carolina sucks man i’m guessing
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like 50 60k
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10 000 for 100
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oh one month the other way
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yeah it went the other way i i thought i
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thought it was going to be higher but 10
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000 and then all of them kind of have
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per diems and then mileage is and stuff
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like that yeah yeah yeah but yeah ten
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ten thousand four hundred according i
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don’t know how accurate this website is
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i just went and in pennsylvania it
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starts it’s gonna start at a hundred
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thousand dollars plus the per diems and
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all that yes they get their daily per
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diem and
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plenty of great benefits i mean
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obviously above and beyond the per diem
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you’ve got pension you’ve got travel um
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and here’s another one that is horrific
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in pennsylvania there is no ban on
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gifts that legislatures can legislators
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can receive not only is there no ban
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there’s no requirement for them to
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account for that
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uh great example
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a gentleman and he’s the state senator
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in my district uh a gentleman named uh
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jay corman he is also the head of the
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senate right now uh he
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um
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he has never come out for a gift ban and
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he was also running for governor for the
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republican nomination this year he
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didn’t even come close
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but the reason he never came out for a
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gift ban uh even during 2020 during the
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coveted lockdown one of the lobbyists uh
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flew he and his whole family to either
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bermuda or the bahamas for like a
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week-long tropical conference
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this is the kind of crap
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these guys get on top of their
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exorbitant salaries
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wow and i want to see that put in place
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now they’re talking about a gift ban
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right now as we speak it may actually go
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through sometime soon
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and uh i’ve never been a fan at all of
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our current governor wolf
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but i like to give people credit what
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credits do
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and one thing that he has done well as
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soon as he took office eight years ago
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uh the first thing he did for his
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executive branch he said
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uh gift ban across the board guys
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we here in the executive branch no
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elected official or an elected official
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will be permitted to receive a gift of
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any kind uh i applaud that and he has
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been asking the legislature to do the
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same
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they’ve just shut their ears and ignored
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them every step of the way
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so uh hopefully that’ll happen now but
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uh okay i won’t be surprised if it
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doesn’t
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so obviously to ought to uh welcome all
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these new spending cuts and fiscal uh
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responsibility that means you’ll also be
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able to have massive tax cuts right well
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absolutely
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i point out that states like florida
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texas tennessee you know states that
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don’t have income taxes
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those are the states that are
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business-friendly you know
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and pennsylvania needs to be one we need
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to be a taxi
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if we can start cutting taxes then i do
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mean all the income taxes left and right
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uh we’re going to be able to attract
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more businesses here but pennsylvania
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has the second
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highest
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fuel taxes of gas and diesel in the
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country
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those needs slashed and we easily could
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because
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a lot of the highway
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fuel taxes
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don’t go to highways here uh uh billions
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of dollars of it go to from the state
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police i’m sorry the state police should
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be coming out of our general budget not
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out of the highway budget um and then we
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have uh we have so many other things
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here where we could cut uh we have a
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inheritance tax here i think that’s
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particularly particularly regressive you
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know here we all are we’re working right
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every day of our lives we’re working
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pennsylvania has a 3.07
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income tax okay it’s flat
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but it’s that’s 50 higher than 1981.
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um
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so you have that now you get to keep
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what’s left oh but wait everything you
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buy not everything you know not
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necessities like food and clothing
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but any other goods you buy in
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pennsylvania you’ve got a six percent
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sales tax
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on top of that and uh the counties of
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allegheny where pittsburgh
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is and philadelphia they have a seven
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percent tax a little bit more
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uh so now they’re getting you on
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everything you buy
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of course there’s capital gains in this
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state uh there’s we have a regressive
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very regressive property tax system that
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needs to be totally thrown out and our
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education system funding needs totally
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reformed and it can be done
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uh but then after paying all that all
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your life
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here in pennsylvania
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when you die
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oh the state says
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let’s get him just one more time huh
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and they nail you with an inheritance
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tax also if it is a uh a lineal
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descendant six percent playing sales tax
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but if i leave all my stuff to one of
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youtube you’re gonna pay 15.
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uh and i just think it’s horrible
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immoral
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that dying in pennsylvania gives her
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eyes to a taxable event
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uh and as a cpa all my life i’ve had to
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deal with these and see them i find them
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just as obnoxious now as i have all
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those other years so they need to be
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changed and cut
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so
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when you say lineal descendant that
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means do i have to be a blood relative
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or what if it’s like a a spouse or
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something like that um spouses count as
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linny uh you know if you’re so like
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what if it’s like an adopted child would
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count that that would count oh that
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would count
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so it’s just anyone that’s not your
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relative they more they almost triple
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the tax
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almost yes yeah yes like two exactly
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they only have that one last chance
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they only have that one last chance so
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that’s it yeah
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that’s something that you see everywhere
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they’re they’re going to tax you when
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you get paid they’re going to tax you
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when you buy things you know not here in
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florida they don’t tax you when you get
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paid but other places
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um they tax you when you get paid they
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tax you when you buy something that’s
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actually when you sell something
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uh
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they tax you basically every way out and
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then so many other places
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say that it’s immoral for you to be able
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to just give people what you have saved
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so they tax that as well
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and the immoral thing is you’re you’re
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taxing them every way along everything
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and then at the
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every step and then you’re taxing it at
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the end
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when they die yep yes that money has
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been that money has been taxed
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a hundred times over by that point
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because they’re trying to get more
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and then people will sometimes say to me
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okay joe so what are you gonna replace
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it with
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and i’ll give them a solution i’ll say
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look if i’m constantly cutting
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spending as far as i can
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i can keep cuts to a minimum or making
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the cuts i want to make will be a hell
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of a lot easier
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next
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if i’m cutting taxes again pennsylvania
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becomes a tax hate
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business friendly states have already
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found this out
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when businesses are flocking here what
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happens
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your tax base broadcast goes up yeah so
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i may be dropping percentages or
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eliminating taxes but if the pool’s
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getting wider
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we still have revenue inflow that’s more
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than adequate
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and then i point out look
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between the two if we’re going to be
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cutting taxes
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cutting spending drawing more people in
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we’ll have more than enough to go around
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and it has been proven by states like
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like florida like tennessee so it can
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happen here we just have to have people
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who are willing to say let’s try
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something different
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i guarantee you this um
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if nothing changes if they keep just
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electing the failed duopoly like they
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have for decades i’m willing to bet in
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just 10 years
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that operating budget will hit 60
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billion in in short order and i’m very
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confident saying that now obviously i
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can’t prove it yet but it’s one of those
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moments where i can sit here on money
17:48
waters media and say
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mark my words i’m willing to bet it’ll
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happen prove me wrong
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oh it’s likely it’ll happen even before
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that it might double in 10 years
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honestly especially with inflation
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there’s a good chance it might double in
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that 10 year time to
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80 billion so uh one last thing that we
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were talking about uh before we started
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you want to uh also make a radical
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change uh to the way that uh that drugs
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are being treated by basically ending
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the war on drugs in pennsylvania as well
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tell us about the model you want to use
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well i point out to people you know uh
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when they all of a sudden here in
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pennsylvania they’re starting to talk
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about drug well marijuana
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legalization
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now
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and governor wolf just tweeted today
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it’s time to do this you know and i
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pointed out to him in a response i said
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hey governor
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just four years ago when you ran for
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office
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you quoted
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your comment was pennsylvania is not
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ready
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to legalize drugs
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yes that’s changed a lot has changed in
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four years apparently
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yeah
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exactly so i said so what’s changed
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actually nothing has changed in the last
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50 or more
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and uh and i pointed out to them all
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they want is a new revenue stream like
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they did with gambling state they’re now
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the second
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uh largest casino gambling state in the
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nation second only
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yes uh you could go back 30 years people
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were still saying oh you’ll never see
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table games come to pennsylvania
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we’re number two to nevada and uh and
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that’s great you know i to me it’s like
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a golf course it’s entertaining uh if
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somebody wants to spend 100 bucks today
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on gambling or 100 bucks golfing
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go have fun whichever drugs
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back to drugs for me
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portugal the country of portugal in
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again 2002 they decided to look at the
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drug war differently rather than look at
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it as a criminal problem they decided to
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look at it as a medical problem and they
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ended the war on drugs
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they didn’t just legalize them they
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decriminalized
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all think of that all drugs and there’s
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a little i’m not recommending people
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take drugs
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but what i’m saying is
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we have created a class of
20:05
vic
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non-victim criminals through this damn
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drug war and yeah portugal in their
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20-year uh real-time study their
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addiction rates have gone down their
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hiv-related infections have gone down
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every significant marker
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that we’ve been trying to improve upon
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they’ve done for a fraction of the cost
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because they their their medical
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intervention efforts
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are much more successful than anything
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we do as a criminal interdiction
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that’s what i want to do in pennsylvania
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and if i have to do it in ways that may
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even be
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in the face of federal government
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regulations i’m prepared to do that i
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don’t know if the legislature will have
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the spine for it but i do
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and if we do that we’ll end up saving a
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ton of money
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we’ll end up you know stopping ruining
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people’s lives uh
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i point out to people imagine you are
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you you pick up a flower pot and you’re
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holding a geranium
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you’re not doing anything wrong
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it’s a geranium well if i pick up this
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pot and it happens to be a marijuana
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plant i’m sorry it’s the same thing i
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should be able to grow this in my window
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box
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but here what we’ve done we’ve
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incarcerated people
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and ruined their lives
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they come out of jail now we’ve totally
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handicapped them in getting
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housing
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employment you know credit
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uh we’ve probably destroyed marriages
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and families it is so counterproductive
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so if we look at it the other way as
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portugal has we’re going to have the
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same great results on a massively larger
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scale
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i would love to be that governor
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that proves that point in a few short
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four years uh it can be done here and i
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i am confident we’ll make it out
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so you want to make government much
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smaller budget cuts tax cuts and you
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want to get them out of a uh treating
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what is a medical problem that’s what
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addiction and overdose is it’s a medical
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and a health problem that’s usually
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masking a mental health problem that’s a
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whole other subject uh you’re you’re
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you’re dealing with it as the actual
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health issue it is and stop treating
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people like criminals uh who are just
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trying to basically medicate themselves
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um and so uh if someone wants to get
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involved in your campaign they want to
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help donate to it what is it that you
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need obviously every campaign needs
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money uh how can people reach out to you
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but also how else can they get involved
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besides giving you money if they live in
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pennsylvania well i’ll tell you what
22:39
first of all uh let me let me answer
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that by by putting on my muddy waters
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could check me out at joe soloski that’s
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right joe soloski.com and in doing so
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there’s a donate button spike’s
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absolutely right campaigns are extremely
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expensive and we need every buck we can
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get especially if we’re going to take
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down the duopoly which is desperately
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neat uh the sooner that we have
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third parties and i even mean multiple
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third parties you know weak keystone
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parties green constitution third party
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presence in all areas of government
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that’s when we’ll finally start to see
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some great changes and improvements
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so
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volunteer-wise also you know we’ve got
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60 days till election day ballpark here
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um
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if you’re available to volunteer we
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would love to hear from you we need you
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helping us uh at the polls on election
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day we need you before then knocking on
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doors reaching out to voters
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if that’s something that turns you on
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we want to be able to utilize your great
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talents to uh to help us with it
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awesome well that’s great and if people
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that
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joesalowski.com um and thank you joe now
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