Episode 262 – The FBI Is Controlling Media

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and now matt wright and spike cohen
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colluding directly with the people who brought us co-intel pro
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the fbi right map uh yes
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so facebook founder and known plagiarist mark zuckerberg um
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he stole the code like i mean is it played oh yeah from the winklevoss twins from the winklevoss twins the the crypto
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billionaires and gold medal winning [Music] crew people rumens
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really i think they’re gold medal winning they’re they’re they’re olympic rowers i believe
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i’m pretty certain they are they were
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they were played by army hammer yeah they got gold in the pan american games
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okay so not olympic but you know whatever no they came in six in the olympics but they actually
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i didn’t know that anyway go ahead mark zuckerberg mark zuckerberg code from gold winning crewmen as one
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does as one would and he’s against piracy um
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he appeared on joe rogan uh this past week as i’m certain many of you already
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seen clips and a lot of this was very eye-opening uh it was all stuff we had ex
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we had known or at least expected uh assumed but we didn’t know that any of
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this stuff was happening for certain we could make every every assumption and every accusation
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but we didn’t know for certain until
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on the joe rogan experience hosted by joe rogan he said
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the fbi came to us uh and they were saying hey you should be on
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high alert we thought there was a lot of russian propaganda in the 2016 election
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we have it on a notice that there should be there is about to be some kind of a dump
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that is similar to that so just be vigilant now
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he didn’t say in this instance he didn’t say in this part uh definitively that they were talking about the hunter biden
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story so according to the new york post
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who we all know was hurt the most by uh the breaking news by the breaking of the story
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uh according to the new york post when joe rogan asked if the fbi had told
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facebook to be on guard specifically for the new york post story about hunter
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biden’s laptop zuckerberg claimed rather unconvincingly
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that he did not remember specifically but it basically fit the pattern i did
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not play yes yeah i did not put any uh any uh editorialism into that sentence
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the rather unconvincingly is the new york post writing that yeah i am adding editorial uh uh
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editorialism in saying that if someone asked you if the single biggest thing that you spent months censoring is an
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example of that and you go well i don’t remember exactly but it was going to fit the best yes the answer to that is yes
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and so it was the thing that was the thing so mark zuckerberg then goes on
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and he talks about he’s like well what we did wasn’t nearly as bad as what twitter did uh we we didn’t ban it sure i mean
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that’s legitimately what he said he’s like we didn’t i mean okay we we didn’t ban it but we may have pushed it to the
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bottom of the news feed we may have made it where not as many people could see it and joe asks him and he says so
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by how much what sort of a percentage was this like what would have people seen it at versus
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what were they allowed oh i don’t have those numbers in front of me and i don’t
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i believe he has a ballpark i don’t think he knows the exact number but he has a ball of course
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and he did not want to say that out loud um and to joe’s credit
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to joe’s credit uh he did follow up and kind of push a little bit not a whole lot
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because that’s joe rogan is joe rogan and he wants people to be
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at ease on his show and be willing to talk to him he doesn’t he doesn’t do the hard hitting he mainly does open style
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conversations and i get it um so he says
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when something like that turns out to be real is there regret for not having it evenly distributed and for throttling
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the distribution of that story um
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which zuckerberg says yeah it sucks it turned out after the fact the fact
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checkers looked into it no one was able to say it was false there is a uh
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i forgot what that is called the three dots there’s a ellipsis ellipsis
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uh yes there is there is an ellipsis here where it it doesn’t have anything but in this
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ellipsis is actually something very important because in this ellipsis is where he said the fbi told us that this
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was false information coming out and that’s where he sort of admits that he was taught that they told him about
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the hunter biden story um and so the fact checkers looked into it
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no one was able to say it was false except like the fbi told us it was false so they had the fact checkers fact
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checking the fact checkers and why would they fact check the fact checkers um i
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think it sucks though in the same way that probably having to go through a criminal trial but being proven innocent
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in the end sucks except yeah yes except
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i’m not really this entire segment is going to feel very like we’re promoting trump and
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trump should have won the election we are not promoting it’s not about trump it’s not about trump it’s not
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about who it’s not yeah it’s not but what what you did by saying okay
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well we’re just gonna believe the fbi who you wouldn’t who you wouldn’t believe in many other
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circumstances but you would not believe in many other circumstances uh
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you you said we’re going to believe the fbi and we are going to throttle this information and
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believe whether or not you believe that trump would have won that election if that
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story hadn’t been so throttled and a lot of people do he helped
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shape an entire election by not fact checking the fact checkers
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obviously it was obviously a real laptop
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when it first when it first came out i watched everything that was leaked
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from it and i am scarred to this day there was video that was obviously him
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in all his glory and pictures and everything else so the fact that it seemed kind of suspicious that he left
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the laptop and that it was delivered to uh you know rudy giuliani or whatever there’s video of hunter biden there’s
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pictures of hunter biden a forensic expert can easily look at it and see
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that it was all organically left information that was on the uh laptop by
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hunter biden there was a chain of custody of the the um the company showing that it was owned by hunter but
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like there was there was no reason to dispute yes it was crazy that hunter biden would just freaking leave this
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laptop full of like really really um uh compromising stuff and was so cracked
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out basically that he never picked it up again probably forgot about it at a geeks yeah he absolutely forgot about it
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he sounded like a key squad yeah geek squad um it wasn’t geek squad it was a private
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and it was a private thing but right what about something like that yeah he essentially left it with the nerd herd
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and he was like he was like here here’s the here’s the
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laptop can you fix it they said here sign this piece of paper if you don’t come back for it within 90 days of repair uh we’re gonna keep it and sell
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it and he said okay and he sent me a piece of paper ruling rudy giuliani and boy i bet they sold it for so much money
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that was the most expensive laptop they’ve ever sold you know i i picture you know in future
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contracts it says you know you have 90 days to pick up your laptop and pay for it or
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else we are going to give it to you giuliani former mayor of new york uh in
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case there are multiple rudy giuliani’s um the real story here is that what we’ve already suspected and and now you
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know yet another example of it the federal government is directing social media to censor things for political
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reasons so this whole oh it’s private companies making this decision no it’s not the federal government is putting
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pressure on them to do this stuff because it’s stick and carrot if they if
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they take the carrot they get all these media ad buys from the government agencies they get all of this
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preferential treatment in the regulatory environment and in you know ppp loans
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and in you know stimulus spending and all that stuff but if they don’t go with it they get dragged in front of congress
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they get threatened they get criminal and civil actions against them so instead they just go along with the
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carrot and try to avoid the stick and so you have these social media companies
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who are essentially censoring on behalf of the government and i have news for you if someone takes
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a suppressive action that they would not have otherwise taken because they were pressured by the
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government or coerced by the government or bribed by the government or whatever by the government to do so you have been
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censored by the government yes this is not about trump this is not
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about biden this isn’t even about the election it’s not even about the reason why they did it which was to help biden
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and hurt trump but that’s not even it’s not even about why they’ve done it it’s that they’re doing it it’s that you are
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being censored by the government not by big tech and so the takeaway is not end
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section 230 or you know uh put more government restrictions on the internet to protect you it’s get the government
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the hell away from the internet now thankfully thankfully
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sam harris is fine with all of this sam harris is from sam harris whose claim to fame is his mom created golden
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girls um is that true how do you like all these things that you know about these people
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stanley yes sam here yeah sam harris’s mom created golden girls
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susan harris is sam harris’s mom yeah yep sam harris’s mom created golden
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girls he’s also known for he was on bill maher one time and he and ben affleck
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got into it where he was talking about islam sam harris was talking about islam and saying look we’re not saying that
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all muslim people are this way but islam as a general concept has a lot of violent
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tendencies and ben affleck was screaming at him uh telling him he sounded
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ignorant and racist and whatever um
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and it became a huge viral clip from i want to say 2011.
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maybe ish yeah that would have been the time about 10 years ago yeah oh yeah just given the and he also has his uh
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podcast i think it’s called triggernomics or maybe that’s his book but he has a
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book in a podcast and he he is a very well uh educated elite from the left uh as you
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can guess growing up in hollywood um but he’s a very educated elite from the left
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who has used it and he’s a smart smart guy i’m not going to knock him he’s a
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smart person typically he says a lot of dumb stuff and we’re about to go into one of the
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dumb things that he has said but what were you going to say also
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heterosexual sam harris he’s married to anaka harris or annika
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harris i i thought sworn he was gay
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and i thought cal pen was straight and i was wrong there
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cal pen is gay yeah but wait didn’t cal pen oh no i’m
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thinking of the other guy cal okay then yeah cal pen is gay jalapenos that i didn’t know
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i did not know that i thought calpin was straight i recently i thought i was thinking of the
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guy the indian guy from parks and recreation who was accused of yeah no
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that’s definitely yes that’s not california that was it that was a disease it’s not cal penn who is gay who
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is gay so sam harris sam harris uh so sam here
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sam ayers uh was on one of these think tank shows uh where
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they were kind of talking about the role of media in politics and of
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course the hunter biden story came and yeah he said
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i don’t care what’s in hunter biden’s laptop
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there’s nothing that hunter biden could do that would alarm me
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at that point honor biden literally could have the corpses of children in his basement i would not have cared
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harris insisted and he went on to say it doesn’t matter what evil things or uh
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dishonest things that joe biden has done in the past all you have to do is look
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at trump university to know that he wasn’t as bad as trump you know i don’t
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want this to seem like this is a pro-trump episode but
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but that like i was doing the notes and i
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was like god this is gonna sound so pro trump and i don’t i know i know this feels very trumpy
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it it does but these are the things that happened this week that i actually found to be
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interesting you know what the problem is this week the reality has been pro-trump so what do you think about that libtards
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no i i so i saw when this broke and the crazy thing you know sam harris he’s a private
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citizen he has the right to this very very bad opinion that it’s okay for government to you know
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hurt people if it saves democracy or what that was his reason right that that trump was a
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threat to democracy yeah of course hour tomorrow yes and yes so yes sam harris
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is but sam harris is a private citizen but at the same time
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he is a member of the media in different senses yes absolutely
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that’s sort of the theme that this was this was sort of a bet this entire thing is a bash on media
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um it just all has to do with joe biden’s kids um but
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but sam harris is just like he’s a colonel of what you see in the media where
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like he said hunter biden literally could have the corpses of dead children in his basement i would not have cared
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if it meant getting trump out i was all for getting trump out
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i didn’t want the replacement we got but i was all for getting trump out um
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however when that when you’re looking at it through this lens when the media looks at through this lens of
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i don’t care what’s in hunter biden’s laptop there’s nothing on there that could be as that joe biden did that’s as
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bad as trump university which everything that trump everything that trump has done
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especially with trump university technically was legal by every single
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metric was it immoral sure but was it legal yes
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yeah and it was legal under laws that joe biden wrote that’s a good point
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but he said that because trump university was so bad hunter biden could have literally had the corpses of
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children in his basement i’m sure that was slightly hyperbolic but he’s making it clear there could have been some
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serious egregious crimes committed as long as it saves our democracy now i
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know he’s backtracked a little bit here but the thing is like you said yes this is troubling because he is a member of
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the media what’s more troubling is that this is what the fbi has been operating
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on this is what the intelligence and law enforcement apparatus of the uni of the
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federal government has been operating on that it did not matter what joe biden did that it only matter what donald
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trump did and we’ll do everything we can to stop him because we have a preferred outcome we the u.s federal government is
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going to do in this election what we do in elections in other countries and that is obviously a gigantic problem it
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undermines the whole idea of your democr you know you want to talk about saving democracy the best way to save democracy
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is not ruin its image by showing that there’s a predetermined outcome that they will do whatever they can to create
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many people on the right and the left see this when it happens when we’re like okay we’re going to go into this other
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country to give them democracy and it’s like the cia or somebody going in to
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depose the government and you know install install a democratic government using the military people are like we
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shouldn’t be doing that what they are doing here is instead of the sea i’m certain that the cia and the
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nsa are involved but the fbi is literally going in and trying to destroy political opponents in order to change
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how democracy works in this country if you’re against it in other countries which many people on the left are many
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people on the right you need to be against it in this country you don’t want the government picking
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and choosing the winners yeah that’s going to end very very very
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poorly very poorly and it does end and not just in 2020 it ought it ends very very
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poorly hey by the way everyone you don’t think the fbi was behind making sure that donald trump got the gop nomination
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do you oh side note here uh side note here um
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donald trump was told towards the end of his campaign when he was deciding who he was going to pardon he was told you
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better darn well not pardon ross ulbricht or julian assange or a couple other people because then we’re going to
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have trouble with you well now they’re subpoenaing his property and doing raids on his property so clearly him listening
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to them didn’t work but let’s stop talking about joe was he
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yeah that’s from multiple that was from multiple close sources that he was being told you’d if you we have a list of
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people that if you pardon them you’re gonna have trouble with the uh uh keep in mind this was after january 6
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and they were saying you know we’ve got some stuff hanging over you and you’re gonna have a lot more trouble if you free these people and and ross ulbrich
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julian assange a few others uh that i can’t remember at the moment were were among that list but you know what
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let’s stop talking about joe biden let’s stop talking about hunter biden
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ashley biden uh the media is also reporting uh that two have pled guilty uh to uh trafficking
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ashley biden’s diary and property now for anybody who’s not familiar with
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this story there’s uh two people who are well i don’t know if they still live
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here in florida but at least in 2020 they did um or at 2021 they did
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who lived in florida and we all know that hunter is uh the the
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wild child of the biden family yes well if he’s the wild child uh his
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sister probably isn’t too far off um she has had a lot of issues over her
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life and i don’t i don’t want like i won’t hit anybody for addiction issues never will i’ve had no no no no we we
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both have had addiction issues yeah i’ve had them will not do it but ashley biden was crashing with some
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friends uh in florida toward the end of 2020 and she had a room with him
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and when she left she left a bunch of property behind she abandoned it which
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under florida law means that the uh the landlord has to let them know they have to pick it up in x amount of
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days i don’t remember the amount of days but they have to let them know you have to pick it up in x amount of days and if they don’t then the property becomes
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abandoned and you can sell it auction it off or anything any of these things are
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optional and you don’t actually have to do anything it’s a very weirdly written law so the people move went in
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and there was stuff there and so they went through it and one of the things that was there was ashley biden’s diary
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by a stroke of luck the two people were
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huge trump supporters um and so they offered it to the trump
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campaign and the trump campaign was like now we don’t want we don’t want to give it to the fbi yeah yeah yeah yeah i
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can’t believe that they trusted them but they’ll give it to the fbi
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so the two people gave it to project veritas and so james o’keefe said okay biden we
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want an interview with you in the next four days or we are going to publish the contents
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of this diary so the fbi raided project veritas
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and said that they were in possession of a stolen diary james o’keefe was like no they told me
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that they told me that they found it in the house not that they stole it but they found it in the house
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truly it doesn’t they pled guilty so i’m imagining but we’ll get into that in a minute so
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they’re saying they found it in the house so you know i didn’t know it was stolen so they end up going down and
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arresting amy harris of palm beach and robert kerlander of jupiter
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for theft of this diary they insist that it was abandoned which
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is why they but they aren’t getting charged with theft of property like they like a
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lot of places are still saying that it’s stolen but the way that it appears is that it’s not stolen
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um but that they trafficked it but that they trafficked how do you traffic something that justifiably
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belongs to you right uh new york diaries are illegal now
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right so they pled guilty and i want to read the the
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the charge directly to a single conspiracy charge stemming
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from their involvement and selling the journal not for theft not for stealing
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not for anything like that not for illegally taking it it’s for a cons it’s a conspiracy charge
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for their role in the germ which they didn’t steal which they didn’t steal and
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so it’s a two-part thing here because the media is talking about okay they should have stolen this diary they
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shouldn’t have stolen this diary and uh they should go to jail for stealing this diary
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they’re saying we didn’t steal it it was left at the house and we found it which the biden children have a terrible track
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record of leaving things places really yeah i know just can i just say because because the
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this now authenticated diary so they can’t say oh it’s a russian uh hit job
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or what it’s now authenticated uh ashley biden talks among other things about being sexualized at a very young age uh
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in her family and showering with her dad like in her teens right
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it was late tweens it was like the late tweens to early teens yeah that’s
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and nobody’s talking about the contents of the diary for a while they’re saying it’s a fake diary but then they charged
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him with theft of the diary and if it was theft of a diary that means that it was a real diary means it was fake
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that means it was i mean that means it was real that it has now been authenticated by the fda fbi um and no
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one’s talking about that i have a theory and you can all tell me what i think
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matt i’d like to hear what you think hunter biden is leaving behind
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compromising stuff about him and his dad ashley biden is leaving behind diaries
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about her childhood is this a cry for help are these kids like leaving i say kids
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they’re now grown adults yeah are they leaving behind stuff in the desperate hope that it’ll take down their father
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and show what their lives are like or i would like to say yes to that but no i don’t
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think so like we obviously hunter has addiction issues ashley biden has
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ashley biden also has struggled with addiction throughout her life showering with your father can you do
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that um so
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we we are now looking at a situation where the media instead of reporting the stuff that’s in the diary that has been
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authenticated that was potentially probably
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obtained legally they aren’t reporting the stuff that’s
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in it instead they’re going after the people who are trying to bring you the information they went after the new york post for bringing you the information
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they went after they are the media probably with
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direction from the fbi or the department of justice yes probably so is
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shaping your perception on what it what is real and what is not
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the fact that they aren’t showing you what’s in the diary while talking about the people in the in
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in the story the two people from florida whose names i don’t remember off the top amy amy harris and robert curley amy
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harris and robert clerlander kurlander uh and they’re saying that they pled
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guilty to involvement and theft of the diary or in involvement and conspiracy with the
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stolen diary or however they word it yeah shows that they don’t want you to know
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what’s in the diary but instead they want you to know that oh well they pled guilty and what
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they probably got him on and i am not a legal expert i just play one here sometimes
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uh i am not a legal expert so what they probably got him on
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was something along the lines because i know it has something to do with taking the information across state lines and
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it’s probably like a two-party consent kind of thing where that was her information
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because it’s her yeah yeah right so that’s that is my guess is that’s what they got
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him on and that’s where the conspiracy portion comes in but they can’t say that
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it’s a stolen diary because they know that because there’s a chance that yes she
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did leave it in the house yeah she left it there yeah it’s abandoned property so that’s fun so we
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have the government working directly to censor information and to use media both old and new media to shape
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the information that you are being exposed to solely for political purposes in order to preserve their power again
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this is not pro-trump no this is not even explicitly anti-biden no this is
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anti-government this is anti-depressant anti-government anti-fbi anti-media
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anti-social media because they’re arms of the government if they are taking direction from the department of justice
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or the fbi um if they’re taking their talking points from them and doing it
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because they’re like spike said earlier you’re being promised you’re being coerced with uh promises of gifts or
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promises of being hauled into congress for whatever reason the
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sit in testimony for six hours and you just don’t being suit and be or and or being sued and or
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prosecuted so it’s it’s it is a or regulated into oblivion or all of those
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things um and that is the problem and it’s why we’ve been saying from the beginning abolish the department of
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justice the department of homeland security the fbi all of that this exists to protect and preserve power it has
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nothing to do with protecting you it is about protecting and preserving power and creating victims along the way we
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just recently had the uh what was it the 20 uh the 20 uh the 29th anniversary i
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believe of the uh of no 30th anniversary of the uh the ruby ridge murders of
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randy weaver and vicki weaver um and uh it just never ends like these things
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need to be uh abolished and uh any crimes committed by its agents they need to be held fully accountable for but it
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just needs to be ended um so i’ll tell you what also needs to be ended this episode but
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we will be right back uh on wednesday uh for the next episode uh where we will be
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interviewing uh do we say who it is are we gonna just say it’s a surprise
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let’s just let’s keep it a surprise it’s a surprise you’re never going to believe who we’re interviewing but i
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can’t tell you this it’s going to be a two-part interview because we’ve already done it so we know we know that’s a
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two-part anyway and so uh it’s going to be we’re going to be showing the first part of the interview uh on wednesday
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