Episode 240 – Abtourtion

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so [Music]
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[Music] we’re gonna have problems he said i have a red button on my desk i have a red
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button in my desk too but it’s bigger and stronger than yours and mine works only a fool and i guess you’re a fool
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maybe i am a fool one hundred percent i don’t mean a little bit only a fool and i guess you’re a fool maybe
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this was a 20-minute interview turn the camera
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and now matt wright and spike cohen
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good morning good afternoon or good evening and welcome to the vanguard
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for spike mclemore cohen i am matt wright and together we are traversing
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the muddied waters of freedom schmecklemore
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can get your starter pack today and speaking of starting off
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let’s start off by listening to an interesting question
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that was posed by none other than the duly elected president
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of the united states of america joseph robin biden
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robinette sorry i didn’t want it i was trying to man it up a little there we go
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parenthetically if you think about it what was the reason why we led the world beginning around nineteen five six and
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seven and eight it’s a good question really he asks he
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asks the deep questions in life let’s let’s so folks
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we want to get your thoughts on this well we’ll let them ask a gw again and then you can you can weigh in on what
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your thoughts are on this question parenthetically if you think about it that was the reason why we led the world
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beginning around nineteen five six and seven and eight
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you tell us in the comments why parenthetically do you think that america began to lead the world in
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nineteen five six seven and eight and eight nineteen five six seven and
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eighty eight he has and what i appreciate about this president
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much more so than the last president because the last president he was very bombastic
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uh and you know it’s the greatest to this we’re just going to be fantastic everything should be wonderful
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this one he asks important questions mm-hmm
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very deep all of us right we we all need to come to these conclusions on our own like why america
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was so great in 1956 yep yep yeah no it’s
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it’s it’s really a breath of fresh air to get a president who’s asking the
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questions that matter so here here’s here’s some of the ques answers we’re getting uh uh semi chef
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jeff says or geoff says uh uh america didn’t exist in 1905 which is
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a good point um uh claire underwood says that your fake trump just gets better and better it
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does you are getting uh you definitely uh are getting better
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um thank you and uh this might be i mean we’re gonna keep fielding the answers but i think
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right now this might be the best one tim y song says because 19 5 6 7 8 9.
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so uh we know we’re a little late on this one because we didn’t have tom arnold says it was the progressive
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age under teddy roosevelt biden remembers it well and that’s it
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okay sorry go ahead matt oh you’re fine we know we’re a little late on this one but uh it’s because we
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didn’t have a show the last two weeks um but
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much like the president saying asking me important questions yes
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the vice president the vice president who received more votes than any vice president
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in history or or me student well
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i didn’t feel like that was necessary to say out loud like if he wanted to make it about you [Laughter]
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so she stood in front of the u.s space force
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to give a speech about space and really what she says can only be summed up in this week’s
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deep thoughts
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deep thoughts by kamala harris
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i think everyone here recognizes how extraordinary space is
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whether it is satellites that orbit the earth humans
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that land on the moon or telescopes that peer into the
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furthest reaches of the universe space is exciting
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it spurs our imaginations and it forces us
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to ask big questions oh no
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and of course we know what the big question is parenthetically if you think about it what was the reason why we led the world
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beginning around nineteen five six and seven and eight
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old man yells hypothetic question at sky
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[Music] parenthetical questions are apparently parenthetically very apparent
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parenthetically parenthetically um
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that is who is interested my fellow americans had parentheticals on it
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i think joe biden’s just being anti-semitic with his parents wow it’s he’s asking parenthetically
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you know who would know that answer the jews because they ran it in nineteen one two three and four
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until the u.s took it over oh man until nineteen five six seven and
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eight matt hicks says uh 19-5 was a good year but 36-9 was a damn good time
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or 369 anyway nice
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nice eskimo libertarian says yes i’m curious about 19 5 6 and 7 while looking at the
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stars these are the people that got 81 million
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votes yeah more more votes than anyone any presidential campaign in
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history if you ever feel like you can’t do it those two got 81 million votes
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you can do it you can do it you can do it you literally you literally can do anything
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if these two got 81 million votes yes
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so speaking of terrible things that are coming out of this administration the economy
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the stock market has currently superfan serie ander egg says can we
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like just move and [Music] where where
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where um the stocks have been in a absolute free fall recently uh with companies
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like netflix dropping 71 year to date uh yeah snapchat’s down 50
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facebook’s down 42 uber’s down 47. amazon is down 36. disney’s down 32.
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tesla 34 google 21 and just so everybody knows and like we don’t get fact checked
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on this um this was at close of bell yesterday so
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things may have changed one way or the other since then but that was a close a bell yesterday
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and then it’s all because of you damn password sharers
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that’s what’s making justice millennials are ruining the stock market with password sharing with password
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sharing it’s a shame password sharing everybody’s sharing their robinhood account
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passwords yes so they can sell their stuff yes
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um the s p 500 fell below 4 000 for the first time in a year yesterday um and
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and the dow jones industrial average dropped uh 653.67 points to 32
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245.7 um while the nasdaq composite uh lost
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4.29 to 11.623 [Music]
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uh everything is dropping now a lot of people
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say that this is being driven by the fed policy and the increase in the rates uh but a lot of this is due to the economic
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policy that has been happening in this country long before biden yeah there’s a gigantic bubble uh that
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this happens over and over again it happened uh in uh a smaller bubble that
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happened uh in like 2010 2011. uh the the more recent bubble that was big that
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really crushed the economy was 0.708 which led to the tarp bailouts and the
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ongoing policy that the government’s just going to essentially quasi-nationalize companies by just
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shoving money and printing out money and shoving money into them to keep them afloat because they’re too big to fail
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while letting them continue to be managed by the people who screwed them up
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and rewarding them for screwing up with money from people who are trying to get by and wondering why the cost of living
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is going out of control and uh and and what’s ultimately happening here is
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this is even in the midst of all this stimulus spending the the bottom is falling out from the
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market that’s eventually going to bleed over into real estate that’s eventually going
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to bleed over into everything into the into you know buying of everything
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and because the government is so focused on you know trying to stop deflation which
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i think is hilarious uh given the double-digit inflation that we’ve been having uh effective double-digit
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inflation we’ve been having uh this is really bad this is like recession stagflation is when you have a stagnant
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economy and high inflation that we’re headed for recess flation where we’re in
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a pretty bad recession but also have really bad inflation we also have inflation
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we did have a a lockdown caused uh uh recession in 2020.
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there’s a fairly quick rebound on that but because they kind of made everything shut down but the price of everything
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went down because there was less consumption of things this is where the economy’s gonna the bot the bottom is gonna fall out from uh because of all
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the malinvestment that’s been happening from basically free money that’s been handed out by the federal reserve to all the cronies the bottom’s finally going
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to fall out from that and the price of things is going to keep going through the roof and you already know
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that these same politicians are going to turn around and say well we can’t let
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the economy falter and so we need to run up however many trillions of dollars in debt and hand it off to the same cronies
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who screwed everything up and surprisingly they’re not going to learn their lesson from that
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but thankfully that means maybe the price of gas might go down right matt
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one would think that that would be a logical step but it uh no because gas is now
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just hit monday uh an all-time high record uh at
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4.37 cents a gallon now with summer coming up and many people
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are planning on doing the traveling and the you know going to visit families and vacations and things yeah
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every summer you see this the gas prices will kind of eek up a little bit but this summer they are going to
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continue to skyrocket and even joe biden has said that we have not seen
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the worst of it this is going to continue going on it
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the way that the economy and inflation has been working um
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this round is so bad that restaurants have been using
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stickers for prices on their menu so that way they can just keep updating them as quickly as possible as opposed
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to printing out new menus um we are going to be moving into an era
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that i don’t believe we have seen in roughly 90 years
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it’s bad uh i also saw a recent stat uh that said that um
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and i’m i’m i’m not sure these numbers are are pretty close they might not be exact but during the worst part of the
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recession the average american’s wage uh amounted to
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uh 14 of or no 25 of the cost of a of a home
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which was like terrible you know that it was because the the wages had had plummeted uh now it’s 14
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and i don’t know if you saw there needs to be some market correction there yeah i don’t know if you saw this uh there
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was an article in the i’m just guessing it was either the washington post or the new york times i
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could be wrong but it was written by a teacher
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who was saying that right now teachers are making roughly 2
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000 to 4 dollars less uh than they were ten years ago
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when you account for inflation and this is terrible and this is horrible and we need to make sure that teachers are
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protected and if they hadn’t included
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this year they were actually above the rate of inflation but when you include this year
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in it they were well below it making less than they were 10 years ago
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and i thought to myself everybody is there right now and it’s because people
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like the teachers unions have supported the people who put these policies into place
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yep yep exactly and that’s the uh that’s the problem and like you said some restaurants are reaching a point where
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they’re having to use stickers but i’ll tell you one restaurant that always keeps their prices as low as possible
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for good dish quality food and that’s waffle house which is the home of the libertarian party waffle house caucus
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the fastest growing and second largest caucus in the libertarian party join the
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movement today by going to the exclusive and by exclusive i mean we
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just will let anyone in exclusive facebook group uh libertarian party waffle house caucus and if you want to
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get some sweet waffle house caucus swag go on over to
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muddywatersmedia.com and press the old store button and you can get a waffle house caucus shirt or button
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seamless and organic we we need to not call it the exclusive
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the exclusive group but instead it should be the diversity equity access and inclusion group and include facebook
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yes yeah it’s a very inclusive group and we have much diversity much equity much access
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and all of the inclusion at the libertarian party waffle house caucus yes this this is a caucus built on
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the foundational principle of whatever match you said
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it’s been a while since you’ve worked in the corporate spike it’s it’s been a well and i didn’t do that [ __ ] um but
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anyway uh so we didn’t do we just uh the first weird thing where
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we have people come together and figure out how to work together to make money and grow their businesses and i know that sounds insane to do so it used to
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be diversity and inclusion and the di like the diversity and inclusion and that meant you know you had a diverse
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workplace that was inclusive of everybody and recently they’ve expanded the di to be the deai the diversity
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equity access of inclusion um and they’re just going to keep expanding it
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until it’s like the lgbtq aaa yeah it’s it’s going to be you know
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d e a l f y q f g b plus plus including the lgbtqa d82a qsaa plus plus
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like it’s it’s it’s they’re making things like code that’s why like for lgbt people i i’ve
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i try to use gender and sexual minorities or gsm because that way as it
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just continues to expand that kind of covers everyone but apparently some people don’t like that because it
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implies that they’re a minority which they
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alright so speaking of which i’ll tell you who’s not a minority and that’s people who when they’ve been personally
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injured in the state of florida they want to fight back and get the money that’s due them well folks
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great news again nothing but great news on this well nothing but great sponsored news on this
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episode including the fact that if you’re personally injured in florida you need to contact
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chris reynolds attorney at law personal injury attorney chris reynolds attorney at law who just happens to be the
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sponsor of the personal injury attorney chris reynolds attorney at law anchor colin moment where you can call in and
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leave us your messages but let’s talk about chris for a moment if you have been injured
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in a way that’s personal to you a personal injury if you will in the state of
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florida there are many things you need but one of them is money
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and you know how you can get money by hiring an attorney but not just any attorney
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personal injury attorney chris reynolds attorney at law
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and we’re not just saying that because he’s the sponsor of the personal injury attorney chris reynolds attorney at law
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anchor colin moment but that is part of why we’re saying it
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that’s mainly what we’re saying that’s the best i can speak i can attest to the fact
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that he is a really good attorney yes we wouldn’t be taking money from
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personal injury attorney chris reynolds attorney at law sponsor of the personal injury attorney chris reynolds attorney
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at law anchor colin moment if he wasn’t a good personal injury attorney attorney at law
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okay so let’s be clear about that so we got some calls here
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and i don’t know if they’re from this week or last week but we’re doing them anyway because we already got them here uh first one is from mtal
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underscore six hello matt and tasha cohen’s husband
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um my name is harrison i am a broke college student
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from prescott arizona and this is my first time ever calling in on the chris reynolds attorney at
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wall anchor calling moment um although i’ve been a long time listener of the show
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um i’m calling in to you guys today because i am in search of advice i’m a
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volunteer with the libertarian party affiliate in yavapai
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county but there are only four of us and we really don’t know where to begin and i
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want to know what is your advice on how to build a liberty movement in
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your own community starting from nothing so
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harrison right it was harrison harrison um harrison uh so harrison first thank you
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for being a listener yeah uh we definitely appreciate it you’re one of the real ones and thank you so much for
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uh giving us a given us a little ringy ding on the personal injury attorney chris reynolds attorney at law anchor call in
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moment i haven’t said that in a while um so
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so there’s four from what i under from what i gathered there’s four of you there in arizona who want to start a
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liberty movement um and you’re trying to figure out how
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um so while i am not the person to ask on how to get affiliated there are many people
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in the libertarian party who can help you but what i can say if you want to start a liberty movement and you’re you
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said you’re a broke college student in uh in arizona i don’t remember the name of the city but uh you said you’re a broke
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college student so the way that i would start a liberty movement with your four
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friends your cohorts um is i would go out and start doing liberty stuff
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and make a deal about it uh i don’t know i don’t know the laws in arizona i don’t
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live there uh but here in florida it’s illegal to feed homeless people so uh i
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would go out and feed homeless people i would set up a booth and feed homeless people and
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only one of you go out because when that person inevitably gets arrested uh the
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next person comes out and starts doing it and you make a show of it it’s a peaceful protest that i am going to feed
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homeless people um and you cannot stop me from doing that um
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things like that if you want to go like today i did a beach cleanup i went out cleaned up trash on the beach just
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going out and volunteering your time in the community and showing people that yes we as people can make a difference
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and then trying to get people in with you in these missions and then growing
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from there to set to show that you and personal responsibility can continue to uh
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make the world a better place without force from government yes uh that’s a perfect example of
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things you can do um i would look for and and matt gave a great example with the homeless uh uh
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which is in most i would imagine it i think it was prescott arizona he said or yeah i think that was what he said
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prescott in county whatever he said uh uh but i that the county part i
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can’t help you there but the uh when it comes to i i would look for
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what are the hot button issues maybe two or three hot button issues that everyone in your area is talking about that’s
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kind of specific to your area and yeah apply the liberty perspective to it
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and then go do it and it might be something like feeding the homeless or working with local activists to help uh
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to help feed people or help uh you know provide uh goods and services to people
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that donated goods that need them or something like that if there were a disaster or something uh it might mean showing up to city or county councils uh
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and you know speaking about an issue and advocating for or against a certain policy uh any of those things
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we often get caught up in the idea that we we’re libertarians we have the best ideas and everyone needs to listen to us
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but that’s not how it works people need to see what we’re about what we care about they need to see that we care about them and
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they need to even know we exist in the first place honestly uh and that’s what getting involved locally in your local
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area uh on on specific issues that can connect with people can do now i know what you’re thinking spike
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that’s go ahead i was i was gonna say uh because i’ll be
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both of us kind of it’s weird whenever somebody asks us what can we do we always kind of go with
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the feed the homeless thing because in a lot of places it’s illegal but something that i literally just came
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up with uh go to neighborhoods in your area that have um
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elder like have a lot of elderly people and go mow their lawns for free you don’t need a license to do it if you’re
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doing it for free uh so go mow their lungs for free and be like hey you know what we are doing this out of the
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kindness of our hearts we just want to make sure that you’re okay go we’ll mow your lawns for you um you know
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if you’re good at trimming bushes or doing whatever and i mean trimming actually trimming the bushes it’s not a euphemism harrison’s i know how you
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college kids are um but go out and just mow the lawns for free
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take care of the yards and be like you know what no no money necessary we’re just here to make this a little bit
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easier for you so you don’t have to worry about it and just go on i literally just came up with that
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right yeah that’s a really good idea uh another one that uh that’s an excellent idea actually like just community
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service stuff i think a lot of times if we just got involved in the community
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just to show we cared even before we started with our our brand of ideas and solutions for things it goes a long way
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to show uh show people how we care another thing that’s going on right now is in uh in many towns in alabama they
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still have the old sundown laws uh which came from the days when the slaves were freed uh and uh the the former slave
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owners didn’t want them in their in their towns so they had rules that said if you were white you could be out all
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time a day but if you weren’t white uh you better be in your home uh or out of
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the public square by the time the sun goes down or else you’re gonna have problems and it was a way of criminalizing people who weren’t doing
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anything anything wrong well now uh many towns still have that rule it doesn’t say white or black it says if you own
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property in the town then you can be out past sundown but if you don’t meaning if you’re like a renter
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and in these areas it’s typically that the own the people that own properties are white the people that rent are black so it effectively works out to the same
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thing if you’re a renter then you can’t be out past sundown so what we have some local libertarians
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that are going to be doing in those areas is showing up and having big parties that we advertise that are going
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to be going on past sundown and basically daring local authorities to arrest a bunch of people for peacefully
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having a party where they’re not breaking any other laws except this stupid ridiculous rule and if they arrest them for it then we can go and
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say why are you arresting peaceful people for being outside uh and and for having a good time and not hurting
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anyone and if they don’t arrest people because there’s way too much attention on it then we go to the city councils and say hey if you’re not going to
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enforce this stupid rule and get rid of it because it looked like you weren’t going to enforce it against 200 people but you’re probably still getting forced
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against like two or three people doing the right thing why don’t you just get rid of it entirely these are the kind of things that you can do when you find a
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hot button issue in a local area that really connects in your area apply libertarian ideas solutions and and
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mindset to it and bring people in doing it that way now i know what you’re thinking what if there were a way
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parenthetically this is my quote this is my question joe biden asked his question kamala harris
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asked his question here’s my question what if parenthetically and hypothetically there was a way to have
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local activists across the country working together on single issue
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grassroots activism to help solve problems bring people into the liberty movement and help candidates for office
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large and small be able to win more races and be able to win liberty for liberty now well
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all i can say is if you go to yourthepower.net you might find something that sounds
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something like that you are the power.net and it’s the words you and r i’m not a 12 year old texting you it’s
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the words u and r u y o u a r e thepower.net
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thank you for that question and you know who else has the power the gravy king
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okay here’s the next there’s a few a few tie-ins there uh
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here is a question from d dockery three libertarians are running for city
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council in jacksonville florida and they will all be at the political hobnob at the fairgrounds on saturday may 21st
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from 2 to 6 pm the three candidates are eric parker ron tracy robison and jerry tub
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rohrabach there will also be a libertarian affiliate table at the event if you find
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yourself in the area please come show your support and vote in the straw poll this will be mostly republicans so
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having a bunch of gold running around will probably ruffle some feathers
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and that was at the wedding we’ll all be at the political hobnob at the fairgrounds on saturday may 21st from 2
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to 6 00 pm okay the political hobnob which is at the jacksonville fairgrounds or duvall
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county fairgrounds because i know they’re in jacksonville which is in duval county which is basically just jacksonville
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with a county line around it um at the political hobnob on the 21st from
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at starting at 6 pm thank you and do you know who else might be there
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because they’re in florida too def oh god that’s no he’s no he’s not defy the power and stitches and glaze he’s
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thank you to semi chef jeff for proving he is real um by giving us ten dollars uh oh well
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it says spike might still have the pirate coin i casted and gave him outside the flint water plant i guess
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yes hold on definitely check out the website i do yes i do challenge the gravy king
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he challenges the gravy king and a in
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i’m not sure what they’re challenging each other too if it’s a drinking contest semi-chef jeff you’re not gonna
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win uh but if it’s anything else i mean it’s kind of a coin toss because i have no idea the skill
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levels here uh if it’s a debate my money’s on the gravy king just because i’ve had a debate with him once and i
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don’t want to do it again uh so what are we challenging the gravy king
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too yeah it’s probably the gravy it’s probably the gravy now that i think
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about it uh and to which case
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oh is he i’ve never had gravy challenge and uh okay so semichef
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jeff is saying he a gravy challenge and i’ll debate after so matt matt hicks the
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gravy king it’s up to you on whether or not you want to accept
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the challenge of the gravy off and then you guys can figure out something to
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debate later um i have that coin i know i have that coin
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because i’m certain you do matt hicks has accepted the challenge
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oh wow so you two are gonna have to figure out how to connect with each other um
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i go off camera somewhere somehow um accepting challenges from each other
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yeah they’re accepting challenges yeah there’s going to be a gravy challenge between matt hicks and semi chef jeff
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i have that coin semichef jeff i don’t
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somebody said check serotonin said check your piggy bank um
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oh that’s racist not from her
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well it’s it’s the reverse race uncle tom or whatever i don’t know
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um yes i have it it is here
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i even saw it recently but i just moved a bunch of my stuff that people have given to me around
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so it’s somewhere in here but yes jason lyon has
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jason lyon uh has challenged us to a beard off
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um and i concede yeah yeah that’s not fair
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matt isn’t has what evolved past needing beards right i i am well passed he’s prepared
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for me okay so we we don’t he was built for the moon okay so i write that down i was i
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on the other hand i was built so that way uh in the future when we all have to wear
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gas masks i don’t have to worry about shaving ever well i’m not gonna wear one because i’m
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not a sheep so anyway um but the reason i’m not going to beard
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off with you is because long before i reach that level of offing you with my beard
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which i l it’s sad because i literally could like my hair grows like
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a chia pet but with hair from a jew
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so you kind of get like kyle broflowski but down here yeah just like that but the problem is long before
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i got anywhere near your beard sides jason i would then also become a divorced man
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so it’s not worth it
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no it’s not worth it not worth it you get to you get to have that title um so we got oh speaking of
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stitches and glitches and defy the power i got two back to back that i’m gonna play right now from john morrissey
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hey spike oh also uh uh we aren’t supposed to acknowledge that matt hicks is the gravy king
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anyway okay matt quick question for spike uh gastonia is there any thoughts of filing
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a lawsuit to eventually force the video out from the police department anyways
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i’ll hang up and listen for your answer uh that’s an easy one to answer before i
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play the other one um that has already gone through court the judge in north carolina a judge has to
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be a superior court judge has to be the one to sign off on releasing it the judge opted to block it the the that
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judge can reconsider their decision and they would he would reconsider his decision if you had the city council and
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the da saying actually you know what go ahead and release it so we’re just putting more and more public pressure on them and uh speaking of which uh today
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uh we didn’t get the d.a uh to release the call for the release of the footage we did get them to delete his entire
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social media presence so baby steps
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you got the d.a to delete his social media one comment
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several thousand reactions several hundred replies you ratioed him
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like hard and then he he he first he deleted my comment and blocked me
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then he realized what he just did because a bunch of people put in the comments you can’t do that that violates the first amendment so then he just
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deleted his whole presence on the internet
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baby steps you can do that you can do that you can just go away that is legal yeah you can legally just
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go away is what you can do shut up and go away so here’s the next one from john morrissey
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so staying on the estonia topic would it benefit i’m supposed to be max headroom
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what was that hold on i’m gonna play that again that was cool
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so staying on estonia topic would it benefit
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you to start showing up at these todd page um events and his campaign kind of
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almost like clubber lane and rocky iii to kind of send a message to voters to
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send a message that uh we’re not turning our uh heads at your recent actions anyways
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be interested in seeing your response so i uh
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was that was that comment from your mixtape
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yes that’s from the max headroom section of my of my uh of my uh my mixtape so uh
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without going into too much detail on what we’re going to be doing in the near
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future uh we are definitely going to be expanding our uh our outreach in gastonia and uh
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it’s about to get really really exciting and yes it will involve police auditors
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pretty exciting anyway uh so we have one last one
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from matt hicks who i uh is not the gravy king let’s just
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make that i did not listen to this one we did not listen to this comment from matt hicks
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decidedly not well we have no reason to know we don’t know
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who the gravy king is but i can damn well guarantee it’s not matt hicks
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there we go we’re all going to find out how this goes well hello there guy on left and spike
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this is matt hicks calling in on the personal injury attorney chris reynolds attorney at law anchor
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calling momentum this evening i’d like to talk to you gentlemen about cheese that’s right
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cheese cured dairy products so as many of your listeners are probably aware i spent my weekend making
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a giant wheel of cheese for matt right cheddar to be specific and tonight i’m waxing matt wright’s
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cheese hashtag laser legend
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good wholesome content i’m angry
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because you can’t eat cheese yes
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just that’s i’m angry i’m not angry i’m not angry i’m just disappointed and
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a little angry i am i like i’m happy for you
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unironically happy that you and sarah and the kids probably the dogs too
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because why the hell not will get to enjoy some cheese i’ve seen your dogs jump on
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the table the dogs will get some of the cheese the uh uh it’s fair i mean i didn’t say you wanted to
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probably get the the dogs will probably get more than the children yes that’s what i mean they’ll get some
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against everyone’s will i’m not mad about that i’m happy for you
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that you’re going to get this delicious cheese from the cheese king not the gravy king
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totally different graphics it’s gravy king cheese well again we don’t
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acknowledge so that’s not what upsets me what upsets
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me is that i know that if i could have cheese matt would also make me a giant block of
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it and well to be fair
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i worked for this cheese
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how i made a video at the request
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of the gravy king uh and he wanted he he was at i’m going
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to try to remember all this he was a in colombia is the capital of south carolina yes
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okay he was in colombia for a uh for a
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meeting about uh whether or not to end the death penalty in south carolina and then he did a press conference
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afterwards um i don’t remember the name of the group he was with uh off the top of my head but
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he answered a number of questions and i ended up making a video for them um and
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so as a thank you for making the video he said he was going to make me the
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cheese and yet
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he hasn’t made anything he hasn’t made
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and i know he could make some kind of cashew cheese substitute invitation for me despite the
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fact that i used this only like the labor third thing of cheese he’s made
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and plus like he has heard the stories about what happened when you came over here
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for new year’s and gave me covet and how we tried to make you latkes with no
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dairy or gluten and but it had egg in it but it had egg in it and then we made
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you salmon because we wanted because we didn’t know that soy had gluten in it
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that soy sauce teriyaki sauce yeah yeah so then whatever so then to pay you back
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i gave your family you gave me profit yeah you gave everybody
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like we don’t know that but it’s like the likelihood was high that’s fair
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could you have oat milk yes well i think some brands i can’t
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have but yeah i can i can have oat milk i can have a little milk okay because he said matt hicks the gravy king cheese baker
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the the gravy king from azer uh said that he is going to try to make
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oat milk cheese but you have to do something of note
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for the south carolina libertarian party okay
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that’s i was going to do that anyway so that’s not a problem you’re going to have to step up spike
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i’m going to do something even better even notier you’ve already set you’ve already set like a bar that they’re
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expecting and you don’t get why not just do it like back pay for the other stuff and then i’ll do more stuff for more
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fake cheese that’s not that’s the way that this works that’s
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not the way payment works well i don’t like it i don’t like this kind of activism where i have to do
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stuff i like the kind where i go so you know i was in gastonia
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uh last week as you know and i did the
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so uh and we i i did the city council thing and then as i was leaving
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uh a man by the name of chris sally who’s with the libertarian party of north carolina not trying to start a
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you know a rivalry or anything but he gave me a giant plate don’t they have less waffle houses
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fred uh per capita yes is it per capita
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they might be awful houses i got to look that up anyway he i think
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sally gave me these three huge pieces of fresh gra still warm grilled salmon with
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this delicious and he didn’t say oh you gotta jump for it jew he just gave it to
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me out of appreciation for everything i did jump
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but he didn’t tell me to parenthetically yes triple parenthetically waffle houses
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by state there we go so there are
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okay so north carolina has 182
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waffle houses which is a location for every 56
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57 000 people now south carolina
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i don’t need to download the data set to show um
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you don’t want to download the waffle house dataset i just literally want to see the
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yeah i don’t need an excel file i just need to know it won’t say how many are
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hold on uh how many awful houses in south carolina
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uh okay south carolina has 169 locations nice which is the court or fourth
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highest but our population the city population
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is less than half that of north carolina so yes we have like for every 100 000 people we have a waffle house no for
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every 25 000 people we have a waffle house making us happy
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i believe more waffle houses per capita than any other state including florida and georgia
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that’s actually not surprising to me that you would have more than florida because florida has so many people and waffle houses are not like
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georgia where let’s just say had you been elected
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to vice president yes and you had a different running mate
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i believe that your promise of a waffle house on every corner could have come true
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that came in that didn’t end with vermin yeah i i don’t have faith that your running mate
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would have uh signed off on that she would have been powerless that should have been passed the market would have
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decided because i would have made them
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decide uh harrison our good buddy harrison out in um
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arizona yes i don’t i don’t remember the name of the city he said that uh
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where did that go uh after you missed our convention you mean mean man
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you said you would come to arizona on your own but you haven’t yet you
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terrible human being is that still going to happen i think that you’re paraphrasing but i
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do want to come there uh i have been in talk with people with the libertarian party of arizona and also activists who
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are getting started with you are the power long story short i’m going to be there sooner than later but we have to do the logistics of getting me out there
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because it’s i mean i can just go there but to actually go there and have an impactful event that’s going to bring
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lots of people in and you know do activism and outreach and stuff to make it worth everyone’s time that they had
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me come out there uh that is uh that is what we are working on so
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uh we are hoping to get there sooner than later and yes i i didn’t go um
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i didn’t go to arizona uh because i was dying of coping
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oh was that january yeah yeah yeah
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yeah that makes sense so speaking week and it was wonderful
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speaking of
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do you just want to you want to throw in our last sponsor
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before we get to this oh that’s a good idea
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yeah because i don’t want to tie him into this i don’t want to do that to him so instead we’re just gonna flat out
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cold open talk about nope i’ve got these names wrong
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bull johnson travis bull johnson is running for congress in minnesota’s seventh district representing one of the
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largest geographically sized districts in the united states
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he’s jewell johnson says grow cattle not government
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or grow farms not government he’s a grow something he’s a farmer he’s grows something not government actually i
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think he has a few different versions anyway uh travis bull johnson uh throw your support behind him uh he will make
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an excellent libertarian member of congress representing minnesota’s seventh
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district for crying in the mud there oh yeah
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oh yeah oh yeah yeah oh yeah oh oh oh he would be such he he would be
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such a good good good congress person oh god can you imagine there
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oh oh it was a good man salted the earth there oh salt of the earth salt of the earth
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a few brewskis if you know what i’m saying oh i know i i have an idea what that means yeah
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speaking of politeness roe versus wade
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matt so last week i just want to apologize to some to
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i don’t know roughly probably more than half of you um
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last week someone leaked the supreme court decision on dobbs vs jackson and literally everybody got upset about
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it the conservatives were upset that somebody leaked the document
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and the liberals got upset about the supposed ruling yes uh
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people have been so upset about it they have been protesting outside the the houses of scotus members including
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john roberts which makes no sense
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because we know that is a it is a 5-4 decision and we can guess that sotomayor breyer
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and kagan went one way and who do we think the fourth person was
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you know what i could see it being a gorsuch
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no because that’s going to be it’s about it’s going to be going it back to the states
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and it’s likely roberts i’d say like 70 30 it’s roberts i
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i could see a it’s put it this way if they and if it turned out it was gorsuch i wouldn’t be all that surprised but
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yeah it’s probably robert yeah it’s roberts
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and both sides both sides have been calling for violence
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everybody’s waking up and choosing violence over the last week and a half um but since
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everyone has lost their collective minds so like everyone has lost their collective minds
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so badly that when i was writing the notes for today’s show yesterday
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on victory day in russia i kept looking at the news to see if putin dropped a
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nuke because i would have rather talked about that
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travis johnson is running for congress
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and help him today we’re gonna get more into that but first stitches and glitches defy the power
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um so
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what we’re gonna say is probably gonna upset people uh
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the decision [Music] if this is the final decision
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or if the decision is anything like the one that was leaked ends row
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but it does not mean abortion is banned nationwide that’s not what’s going to happen
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no in fact for the majority of people they live in a state that already has a
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state rule in place that has no or very few restrictions on abortion
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like that’s already the case right um it means that the states will have
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the choice to regulate or not regulate regulate abortion how they see fit now row
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when it was ruled upon represented the exercise of raw judicial power and that is not me saying that
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that is a quote from a supreme court justice when it happened um and struck down laws in 30 states
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even though there were numerous states with new abortion laws in their legislatures they just said nope don’t care we’re throwing those out
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this is now the this is the new norm this is what’s going to happen right right
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with planned parenthood versus casey the supreme court essentially banned all laws prohibiting abortion before roughly
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24 weeks again didn’t care what was in the states didn’t care about any of that just said
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nope this is what it is you have no choices here toss it out we don’t care about what the
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people in your state want um but
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one of the issues that there was with casey is that it threw in the phrase of undue
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burden into the mix but it never truly defined the difference between a do
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burden and an undo birth at the time uh
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undue burden that was used as an example was having to tell the father of the baby before having an abortion right
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right but because there was no limitations on
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undue burden it became like a catch-all for literally everything anything was an
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undue burden right now casey was supposed to be the final
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word on abortion everybody was supposed to just go on live happy lives and be like okay well this is how it is uh
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many people probably assume that okay you can have an abortion up to roughly 24 weeks uh and then after that no uh
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but that isn’t what happened states both ends of the spectrum states were
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like okay we’re going to try for six weeks we’re going to try for 12 weeks we’re going to try for 16 weeks we’re going to try for
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40 weeks i had to do that math in my head real quick uh we’re going to try for 40 weeks we’re going to try for 41
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weeks um we’re going to just keep trying for different ends of this
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and that was because there was no defined defining statute in any of these things and the
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reason there was no defining statute is because the supreme court cannot make laws they can only rule on them
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so they couldn’t create a law and no law was ever created federally to
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define these uh issues so the supreme court went nope that’s what it is and then states tried to make
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laws in order to kind of go along with what these two things were and then
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other people got mad about them and then took them to the supreme court and that’s how we ended up where we are
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today it actually
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the in a way the the roe versus wade led to states passing laws like texas’s sb-8
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where they tried to create a new enforcement mechanism starting with abortion but eventually for everything else too where instead of relying on
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criminal justice system police and prosecutors and courts they’d rely on using snitches in the civil court system
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and then bringing the police in to enforce the the rewards given uh and the punishments given in the civil courts
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which if you follow any dictatorship ever they rely heavily on snitches weaponized
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snitches and that’s what this would do so this is the consequence of the
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uh court system uh creating a basically a dick tot for the entire
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for the entire country um i have a feeling
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that is what what’s gonna end up happening uh is that
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we’re now gonna have multiple test cases of okay abortions banned in this state does it
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actually stop the abortions or do they just go somewhere else or do they
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just get them illegally what other things happen as a result of of this abortion ban what what other
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creep in in by government happens i i know people many of you have heard my
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talks about why a war on abortion would lead to more abortions uh and and the the uh the
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slippery slope that creates but we’ll find out likely on a state-by-state basis um if this if this ends up getting
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ruled on this way uh and it gets punted back to the states to use their power to
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make that decision and i think and i think that you’re probably i’m
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yes i i agree i think that what you’re going to see is you are going to see sort of a federalist system when it
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comes to abortion and the states are going to every state is going to have their own thing um and
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because of that yes you are going to see how it kind of works
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if you have stricter regulations versus no regulations um i don’t know
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we’re kind of going to get into this in a little bit so i don’t want to go too far down this rabbit hole
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but um but yeah i think that you’re going to see it’s going to be a test case on whether
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or not it’s going to be safer versus not safer um
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or even reduce the number of abortions like is it going to make fewer abortions happen and if so
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does that end up becoming a net benefit to people like it’s a it’s they will get to find out and uh and that’s you know
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that is uh at least in theory the the best way for for governance there’s certainly
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exceptions to that where there have to be universal standards when it comes to certain things um
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but we’ll find out that’s uh it looks like whatever you think about this we’re going to be finding out what what works
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we’re going to find out what works and what doesn’t work yeah because like with mississippi you’re going to be
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potentially i don’t know this for certain because like so much information is coming out
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right now um so mississippi might possibly uh i
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saw an article about it don’t know the true validity of it because i’m still waiting for the actual decision to come out but
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they mark may start charging people who have or perform abortions with murder while colorado and illinois may let you
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have one up until nine months and there are states that like might let you go a little bit past that um
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so the question that i have and truly the business opportunity of the
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2020s is the hot new stock for the 20 the hot
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news yeah the the let’s just say that
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now um
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uh what were those travel agents gonna bring out a whole new meaning um
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like we just bring on a brand new demographic of tourism like people
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traveling to get abortions you know aboard tourism a boarism
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a tourism abort resorts
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abort resorts like like down in the bahamas you got like
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sandals so this would be like scalpels abort resorts
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and conveniently located in chicago’s west garfield park at the corner of kildare in west jackson
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full service we’ll give you the drinks and everything after that
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hypothetically all your food is free hypothetically we aren’t gonna do that we don’t live in chicago all the food’s
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free how much is the abortion gonna cost i don’t know how much is sandals
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like thousands of dollars is it i don’t
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remember groupons uh let’s do i’m gonna how much does sandals cost while you talk about your thing
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you do it up nice you you know at the corner of south kildare in west jackson and
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west garfield park in chicago um because lori lightfoot has said come here for
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your abortions well you know you can get them here so you know make it a destination make it a trip
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make something out of it make it uh something that people would want to pay to go see and do
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abortion airbnb’s chris wren’s on on the same page
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you’re not saying how much it i went to the sandal site to ask how much is it
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i think it would depend on which one you’re going to because there are multiple sandals i didn’t think it was
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that expensive because michael scott got it in the office so i assumed it was cheap
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i guess so
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now i saw somebody in the comments say this earlier but
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right now the senate is preparing vote preparing to vote on a bill that would
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codify abortion rights after the leak uh of the supreme court draft majority
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overturning roe vs wade and they want to get it passed before the final decision comes out
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however this is a dead on a rival vote it’s not going to pass no because they
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do not have the votes no not they don’t have the votes to get over the hurdle of the filibuster
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uh the talks of in crete of ending the filibuster have picked up steam but
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mansion and cinema mansion the acting president of the united states and cinema have said that they will not vote to end
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the filibuster so no answers and even uh you know
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usually when it comes uh collins and markowski i think
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they’re consistently their pro-choice republicans but they both said they didn’t like the way this was written or
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at least collins did so i that they don’t have the support for this so they couldn’t even get 50 votes i don’t think
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so what so the way that this is written is uh schumer has it written uh where across
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the nation it’s uh abortion up to nine months up to nine months and that’s how this is
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written which is why murkowski and collins won’t sign on uh they did say that they would sign on to a 24-week ban
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but they the democrats on the new democrats not your grandfathers
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democrats um are not going to sign on to a 24-week
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ban so this is never going to pass that’s not going to be something
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for the republicans in the house and the senate though
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this does not fare well for future elections like i’m not saying in 2022 or 2024 but later on down the road this
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does not fare well uh because there’s i have a friend who does another
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podcast he’s got a show of his own um he’s been on my show multiple times i think he’s been on muddy waters of
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freedom years ago he referred to it as republicans caught the car
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yeah for years on this show
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we have said republicans will never do anything to get rid of abortion
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and democrats will never ban all guns because what else are you going to run on
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yeah now the republicans have caught the car like that there’s nothing left for them
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to chase like they can’t get their voters out there getting all excited about them chasing after something um so
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they’re gonna have to find a brand new uh
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hot button topic to get everybody in the nation riled up about the question is what
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and this is kind of bad timing for republicans in general
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because this
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like you said they caught the car and now they’re going to say well you need to vote for us so we can
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keep fighting against overturning the thing that just got overturned meanwhile the
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democrats just got handed something that might save them in this next race if
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they can get i don’t think it does but here’s so it i i still think that republicans are
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going to do better than democrats because of uh kitchen table issues
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inflation the economy all of that especially if the bottom’s about to fall out of the economy this is not going to
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matter to the vast majority of voters but uh this is something that excites the democrat base gets them
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like freaking out to to vote democrat um and also
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uh also like if you look at the polling
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the like a solid majority of or vast majority of americans i think high in
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like mid to high 60 percentile range do not support a ban on abortion and even
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though this doesn’t ban abortion both democrats and republicans are
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pretending that this bans abortion because the republicans are saying that
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or at least letting that be said to uh to help appeal to their base and the democrats are saying it so they can get
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everyone all worked up so i could see where this could at least blunt the momentum of republicans but we’ll see i
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mean it’s it’s so uh if if the economy is about to do what we think it’s going to do then this won’t
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matter i will say that even with this even with this i don’t see it uh
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slowing down the republicans in this election cycle i don’t i don’t see it i really think that
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because of the other issues going on with people getting hit so hard with inflation uh with gas prices with um
1:16:45
just everything else going on with the economy i don’t think that it’s going to be close i still i don’t think this has
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moved the needle even a little bit um and outside of like one ugov poll uh
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which had the democrats ahead already which you know that wasn’t true oh that’s not real
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right so i their poll i wasn’t taking seriously the republicans have stayed basically
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exactly the same in all other polls so i don’t think that this actually changes
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it and i think more people understand that yes this doesn’t get rid of abortion it’s going to depend depend on
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your states what that means for roughly
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i don’t want to make any guesses here because i’ll probably be wrong and uh i’ll sound
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like i’m insulting a large number of people nobody watching the show but other people uh a lot of people know
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like aoc and chuck schumer and mitch mcconnell and those people but they can’t name their state legislatures um
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this will make people start paying attention to who’s getting elected in their states more than who’s being
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elected federally and that i think is a really good thing to happen
1:17:59
that will make people start paying attention to what’s happening there so more things can start happening at home
1:18:05
as opposed to well we need aoc in there to fight for whatever so that way we
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don’t have to worry about it here i think that this will put a lot more of the focus
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in the states and lead us to more of a federalist society uh and if that is how
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that turns out [ __ ] great
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yeah if if i’m less optimistic than you then that
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will happen without some serious force happening on the local level but this could be one of the things that helps push that that force happening at the
1:18:40
local level right uh if we have people if more decisions are being made at the state level
1:18:46
people like you said are gonna be more interested in who their state rep is who their uh state uh senator is uh and and
1:18:53
then to to i guess a lesser extent who their governor is because ultimately that’s
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who’s making these decisions especially in the legislature at the state level um
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that coupled with people realizing that you know your local government
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can’t your state government can nullify bad federal law your
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local government can nullify bad federal and state law
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um so hopefully this is one of the many things that leads towards people understanding that they actually have
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much more power the more decentralized the decision making is being made at the government level um right we will see i
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mean i’ve been clear about i think that a uh i i consider myself pro-life i think
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that abortion is gruesome i think it’s regrettable uh i think it is it is not uh the way that uh uh i’ve been called
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pro-choice before because i don’t want the government involved uh but i think the way that most pro-choice people talk about abortion uh is as though this is
1:19:51
just some like accidental uh or not accidental some like incidental auxiliary growth uh like you know uh uh
1:19:59
you know a tumor or something like that and it’s it’s not it’s uh if left to gestate is what all of us started as and
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it is especially when it’s later on uh in the pregnancy because i think there’s a difference between a recently uh
1:20:15
fertilized egg being uh removed with the plan b pill and you know aborting a
1:20:20
fetus at you know 25 or 30 weeks or something like that i think these are two clearly different things or
1:20:26
certainly much more severe on the on the the higher on the the uh more gestated side um
1:20:34
when you get government involved in it it’s just like the war on drugs the war on guns the war on terror the war on
1:20:39
inflate the war on uh poverty it’s gonna just make it worse you’re gonna have government getting involved
1:20:46
more and more and more and more and more and using it to having yet another reason to infringe on your privacy
1:20:52
infringe on your rights uh you know uh can you imagine the the arguments for
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expanding no knock raids to save someone from a possible back alley abortion i mean it’s just this is bad stuff and
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it’s going you’re you’re inevitably going to have a situation where due to the cost of compliance with all the laws
1:21:11
to protect these fetuses uh an increasing number of women won’t be able to afford the cost of complying to have
1:21:17
a legal pregnancy uh and so they end up having an abortion because it’s more easy to it’s easier to
1:21:24
hide an illegal abortion than an illegal pregnancy harry brown who was our the libertarian presidential candidate in 96
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and 2000 he was asked you know what do you think about abortion and he said i’m strongly strongly against abortion which
1:21:39
is why i do not want government to ban it given their history on the war andre
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he didn’t have the war on terrorism at that time this was in the 90s but the war on drugs the war on poverty
1:21:50
and so forth he said if you have if you have the government declare a war on abortion within five years men will
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be having abortions too and that’s that’s the rule of thumb i’m using on this
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so yeah and i like so i agree that yes there i don’t think
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i also am pro-life um but i don’t want the government involved
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yeah that being said i think it’s better to not want
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i don’t want the federal government involved more than i don’t want the state governments involved because when
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the federal government’s involved that’s when you start getting
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that’s when you start getting kickbacks to planned parenthood and
1:22:38
other providers out of federal tax dollars that they shouldn’t be getting so instead they would have to be going to
1:22:45
the state level in order to try to get those to try to get those funds
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yep no if the people of the state are like yeah give them the money i don’t really care because it’s not my money
1:22:57
um unless it started happening and where i am in florida uh and then you know i’d
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be like no i don’t think that they should get that and then i would vote out people but it would be a much more localized thing and it wouldn’t be the
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people of california illinois new york washington oregon making those decisions
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yeah i mean definitely both in theory and in practice 90 plus percent of the time uh having it at a
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local level is gonna lead to better uh uh decisions and and and more respect
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for people’s autonomy and more ability for uh more ability for
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people to actually have a say in what’s happening instead of it being decided by lobby groups and and you know crony
1:23:41
corporations um just because it’s closer to you um but i yeah i mean there are
1:23:47
certainly exceptions to that uh i remember when ron desantis uh at the state level ordered the local school
1:23:54
boards not to uh ban uh not to mandate mask wearing in schools and people were
1:23:59
saying oh well you know shouldn’t that be decided locally well that was an example where the decentralization to
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the individual being able to make the choice was being decided by the by the at the state level instead of the local
1:24:11
level so i mean there are exceptions to that uh i am concerned about just specifically when it comes to abortion
1:24:18
how this is gonna play out um because i do think that the states that restrict it uh are going to
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uh or criminalize it uh it’s not gonna make things better there but but in general
1:24:30
the trend towards decisions being made more locally and at the state level is better it’s it’s it’s
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in at least yes you know generally speaking it’s it’s the better move yeah and i think that like when you look
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at states like mississippi and louisiana and i can’t remember the other one off the
1:24:49
top of my head texas um when you look at those states yes you’re gonna see a lot of overreach and a lot
1:24:56
of terrible uh authoritarian stuff happening on these states but on the flip side
1:25:02
you’re going to see a lot of abhorrent things happening in other states and i think eventually
1:25:09
either both sides will just go so far so far in the abhorrent ways on either side
1:25:15
that we end up with another federal ruling which will be terrible or
1:25:21
people will slowly people will slowly and this may take
1:25:26
decades but people will slowly be like okay what if we put this cap on it and a lot
1:25:32
of places will end up with a very similar set of rules
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right right so we will see what happens we will see what happens um and uh
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