Episode 182 – We’re Gonna Need a Bigger Boat… Accident

The Muddied Waters of Freedom with Jason Lyon and Spike Cohen


Biden is getting ready to go full Beto against guns, because… reasons.

Also, Trump fans cheer his second acquittal, Cuomo kills more New Yorkers than… nope, that joke will get us banned, and Kristi Noem wants people to not have autonomy over themselves.

Plus, Rachael Torrence joins us to talk about her run for city councilwoman of Chattanooga.

Plus: Personal Injury Attorney Chris Reynolds Attorney at Law Anchor Call in Moment (not really trademarked)

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what i’m going to circle back i hate to
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this is such a good question i have not
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it was a massive dump to this day
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everyone’s trying to figure out where
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come on um you know what i mean i will
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the show
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this show is not like other shows well
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actually it increasingly is
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um in that uh we actually have a special
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guest
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we do have a special guest uh straight
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from
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chattanooga tennessee which is a
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wonderful uh city with a wonderful
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aquarium
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ladies and gentlemen rachel torrance
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hey guys hey rachel thanks so much for
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coming on
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you are glad you’re here we now you are
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running
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for uh the correct me if we’re wrong
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the district 3 city council race in
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chattanooga tennessee is that that’s
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correct right
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that’s correct well before we get to
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that let’s start with whenever we have a
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libertarian on the show for the first
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time we always ask this
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what is it that got you into
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libertarianism in the libertarian party
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was it
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like an aha moment or was there a
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gradual evolution over time what what
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we all every libertarian has their
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genesis story
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tell us the the rachel torrance story
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so interestingly enough i actually voted
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for gary johnson in 2016
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and didn’t know anything about
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libertarianism at that point
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um the same thing happened in 2020 and i
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was like who am i going to vote for
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i actually decided at one point i was
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going to write in dolly parton because i
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was just
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so over the options that we had
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someone introduced me to joe jorgensen
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and i started listening to
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what she had to say and what spike had
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to say spike is actually
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my ron paul um so i started listening
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to um whenever you started talking about
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things about
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going into colleges and knocking on
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doors that really just
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opened up my eyes and started
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volunteering in june
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and i’m a baby libertarian so here i am
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so you’re going from baby welcome to
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automatically
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running for city council i love it yeah
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i respect that so much i love
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this i’m a libertarian now i’m taking
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over this city
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and i’m starting with district three of
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chattanooga let’s go
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now rachel this speaks to my power
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that you that not only did i excite you
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about libertarianism but you went
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straight from
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i’m not sure what i think to i want to
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run for office as a libertarian now i
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don’t want to take
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a hundred percent of the credit because
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i presume that you’ve done some leg work
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in running for office but is it fair to
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say i could take
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at least 15 of the credit
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you are the power
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i love it at least 15 of the credits
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at least 15 like a minimum i’m not
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saying it’s like 40.
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i’m saying at least 15 maybe even like
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20 to 25
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the numbers don’t matter
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[Laughter]
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so okay talk to us about so you live in
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chattanooga
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and what is it that you saw
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about asking a question at the same time
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i was just saying chattanooga great town
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i used to live in uh
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nashville and we would do weekends in
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chattanooga great town a lot of fun
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so you uh you’re running for this office
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what was it that you saw that me besides
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me
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after seeing me and being so inspired to
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now live your life
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in its purpose which i have given you
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after that
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what what was it that drove you to say
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that drove you to say
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i’m sorry what is it that drove you to
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say uh
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that you know well i should be running
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for this off
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what is it that you saw in chattanooga
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that said that made you say you know i
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want to vote to be the change in
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chattanooga
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i want to run for office to make that
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change we um
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there was our our incumbent
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was running uncontested and so my party
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my local party just was like hey why
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don’t you jump in
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and i just kind of looked at them and
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laughed like
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no no no not that not this shy girl this
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shy girl is not going to run for office
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no way no uh
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and so i really just started to think
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about it a little bit deeper and i said
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you know there’s not
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i mean it’s it’s a risk i can take but
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it’s not really going to
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hurt me if i actually try um
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so yeah risk-taking i saw that
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what i had to lose was to be
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to lose so um i was like okay
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there’s only one person our district is
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about 18 000 people
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that are registered to vote and only
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about 2 000 of those actually
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vote in these in these local elections
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so that’s one thing
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and it’s it was really
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stepping out of my comfort zone and i
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was okay with that
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well that’s awesome that’s awesome no
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that’s
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that’s that’s abs go ahead
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that yeah i was gonna say that that’s
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that’s absolutely amazing now
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um it’s been a while since i’ve lived in
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tennessee and
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obviously never like i’ve never lived in
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chattanooga
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but what what are you aiming to achieve
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in chatham
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what are what are some of the issues
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going on in chattanooga right now that
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you are looking to
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turn around so the biggest thing i want
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to do is to roll back some of those
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restrictions that we’ve put on
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businesses
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and let them actually thrive i mean we
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had
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walmart and lowe’s all the big the big
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box stores were thriving while our mom
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and pop stores were
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kind of on edge so rolling back some of
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those restrictions and going after some
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of the harmful
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the harmful um regulations that we have
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on our people so it’s really our people
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is
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the biggest focus for me right now and
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we
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we have an awesome city and it just
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needs to be it just needs to be
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shown liberty that’s awesome
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that’s awesome now i saw on your website
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uh earlier today
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that one of the things that you are
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actually working on is getting rid of
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the mask mandate
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yeah um and i be i am all for getting
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rid of mask mandates
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um 100 not a fan of them if you want to
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wear masks do it if not
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um how big of a hurdle do you think
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that’s going to be
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to do like how how entrenched is it in
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chattanooga right now
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well right now we have our mask mandate
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that was extended through
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march 31st um the biggest thing is that
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we have people that feel like if you
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don’t wear a mask that you don’t care
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about people
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and there are people that are you have
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to wear a mask um
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so those are it’s it’s really getting
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rid of that binary
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i don’t care about people because i
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choose to
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allow someone not to wear a mask i mean
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it’s
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that’s that’s not the case at all it’s
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the virus is very real and we have to
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focus on
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the virus instead of oh that person’s
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wearing a mask and that person’s not
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they don’t care about you
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right right right right let be let
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people be free to make their own
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their own choices and and all of that so
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you’ve
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you have an incredible team around you
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some of my favorite people in texas
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who like you i’ll be seeing uh this
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weekend uh in
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at the libertarian party convention uh
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libertarian party of tennessee
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convention in uh in lebanon
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uh on saturday and this coming saturday
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and sunday what is
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you know tell us about some of the
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people on your team and uh and how
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they’ve been helpful in this because
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one thing i’ve learned in doing my show
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culture winning and talking to
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libertarians who have won
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similar races across the country is that
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they are only as strong as the team and
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the people that are behind them tell us
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a little bit about your team
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so i’ve got some awesome people on my
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team um
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i’ve got ryan jenkins um
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he is actually 13 and does his
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own podcast um he knows more about
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politics than anybody that i know
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um i also have angela pence who
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has been who has phenomenal
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um planning strategies and
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i think even even through some of your
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events spike
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she was there for at least three of them
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and
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i mean i’ve got i i’ve got the whole
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hamilton county libertarian party
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standing behind me
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uh david tyler is awesome with some of
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the
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um the financials uh we’ve got an
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excellent team here in tennessee
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and even across tennessee i’ve got i’ve
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got dave jones who has been
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awesome promoting me um his
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we’ve got keith mcqueary who’s let me
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use his studio
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this team is just awesome and it really
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is about the people
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this group of people has been
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surrounding me
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so much in the past year and growing me
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so i really appreciate them yeah no
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they’re they’re really really cool
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people
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and uh you you have like i said
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your team can can a team can take you a
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lot further
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than any individual candidate themselves
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can go it’s it’s you as the candidate
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that does the inspiration of
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and it speaks to you as a candidate for
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that many people to be coming on
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and being a solid part of your team but
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it is that team that will propel you to
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to to greatness so that’s that’s really
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awesome
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yeah um you know i’ve
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you know grown like not growing up
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living in tennessee for a good portion
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of my adult life
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um i am i
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i am a huge fan of all things tennessee
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and
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i didn’t get into the libertarian party
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until after tennessee but the people
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that
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uh i’ve met from the tennessee
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libertarian party
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are absolutely wonderful um
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every one of them is a great person
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well i don’t know why that’s it just
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keep going i don’t know why that’s not
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okay
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yeah all of a sudden there’s just like
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face um
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there we go but um
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no this the people that you’ve
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surrounded yourself with sound like you
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have picked
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just a wonderful team and uh
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honestly if i was going to be picking a
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team in tennessee
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you named like everybody i would have on
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it
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yeah yeah yeah no they’re they’re
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amazing so
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angela or sorry uh rachel
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angela’s friend rachel because angela’s
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on your team
20:26
uh rachel talk talk to us about how
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people can help you
20:30
so they want to help you get into
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chattanooga city council in the district
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three
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running against this previously
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unopposed person uh who you are going to
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stomp in the in in the in the race how
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can people help you
20:43
where can they find you you know tell us
20:46
all your all your
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all your points of contact and all the
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way people can reach you
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you can reach me on facebook at rachel t
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district three that’s r-a-c-h-a-e-l
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um and on my website
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racheltdistrict3.com
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if you want to volunteer we need people
21:06
for early voting which is going on right
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now
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um through through february 25th we have
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early voting and then
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march 2nd is election day so
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let me know if you want to volunteer
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well that’s coming up
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real soon oh yeah yeah yeah so let me
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volunteer and i will get you
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i’ll get you in a place to volunteer
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okay everyone go
21:28
and help rachel right now because it’s
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her vases in
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two weeks yeah her race is in three
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weeks two three weeks yeah go
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dude go help her out she doesn’t have
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she doesn’t have till november go now go
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everyone i mean watch the
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end of this show to the end and then go
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and help her
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and then go to bed whatever whatever
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device you are watching on continue
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watching on grab one of your other
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devices
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keep listening to us but go donate and
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sign up to volunteer
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on device number two then circle back
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to to our we’re circling back now circle
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back
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here to our show that you never actually
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left
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rachel what before we let you go thank
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you so much for coming on before we let
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you go
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what’s do you have any final thing that
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you want to tell the the
22:17
all the our lovely viewing audience at
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home
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the biggest thing i want to say is that
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we’re all essential the
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i i want to make sure that everyone
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knows that it’s not
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about what the government says about you
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it’s we’re all in this together
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thank you very much thank you thank you
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beautiful rachel
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rachel uh rachel t for district three
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and uh go find her on would i say
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something wrong
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it’s rachel t district three
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racheltdistrict3.com
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and go find her all on all social media
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as well
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and uh rachel thanks again so much for
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coming on and
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uh good good luck and i’ll see you in a
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few days
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all right thank you i’ll see you in just
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in just like four sleeps
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so uh four four quick sleeps just
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four quick sleeps before spike in
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tennessee day
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um so folks uh that was great uh
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rachel t just district three dot com uh
23:23
if you wanna help
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her i think she’s gonna she’s gonna be
23:26
great in that race we are going to have
23:28
a very short intermission
23:30
while we go connect on the other thing
23:33
that isn’t as buggy as this one
23:35
and uh we’re gonna have a really short
23:37
intermission and we
23:38
will talk to you in i think like a
23:42
minute and a half
23:42
so we’ll see you soon mr ponton i
23:45
believe you have a
23:46
filter turned on in the video
23:50
settings you might want to uh
23:55
we’re trying to can you hear me judge
23:58
i can hear you i think it’s a filter
24:01
it is i don’t know how to remove it i’ve
24:04
got my assistant here she’s trying to
24:06
but
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uh i’m prepared to go forward with
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this i’m here i’m not a cat
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hat i’m not a cat hat
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oh i’m not a cat
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wait he’s not a cat
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never has been
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wait hi i don’t know what just happened
25:05
i don’t know what happens there welcome
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back
25:10
yeah welcome what the hell just happened
25:12
well
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welcome back to the muddy waters of
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freedom with
25:17
me guy on left matt wright and
25:21
spike i’m not coming up with another
25:23
nickname today
25:24
cohen um oh here died
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okay i see what i did okay um
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everybody rachel torrence that was yeah
25:36
that was she was great that was a great
25:37
guess
25:38
no yeah i did not realize that her race
25:40
was coming up that quickly
25:42
um no i’m glad we had her on because i
25:45
had no idea
25:46
and i don’t know what that what did i do
25:47
to me
25:49
i don’t know what you did here we go
25:54
hey everybody yeah no she was a great
25:56
guest and i’m glad that we were able to
25:58
get her on
25:59
in time to have a race in two weeks um
26:03
so that’s a no wonder only 2 000 people
26:06
vote in her area because no one knows
26:07
when it is they just like oh tomorrow
26:09
we’re voting
26:10
for what so uh well folks without any
26:14
further ado
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it’s time for our next segment which is
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26:50
thankfully well
26:54
it’s not really thankfully speaking of
26:56
free shipping
26:57
donald trump got a free shipping
27:01
to being able to run again
27:07
yes he did uh he survived his second
27:09
impeachment conviction
27:11
hearing uh with a vote of 57 to 43 to
27:15
convict which means that seven
27:17
republicans voted to convict and that
27:18
included richard richard burr of north
27:21
carolina bill cassidy of louisiana susan
27:23
collins of maine
27:24
lisa murkowski of alaska mitt romney of
27:27
utah ben sasse of nebraska and pat
27:29
toomey of pennsylvania two of those
27:33
surprised
27:34
yeah surprised me yeah
27:37
i was surprised by burr yeah
27:40
and cass well no actually well no i i
27:43
would say toomey but toomey’s actually
27:45
been pretty
27:46
anti-trump since the election so i i
27:48
think
27:49
burr and cassidy somewhat surprised
27:52
those were the two that kind of
27:54
yeah the the rest of them and maybe to
27:57
me even i i was
27:59
i fully expected now again as i noted on
28:02
kennedy
28:02
not name dropping or anything i go on
28:04
kennedy sometimes
28:07
as i mentioned there uh if the democrats
28:09
actually pick that up for you hang on
28:11
here yeah on kennedy
28:16
i uh i as i noted uh on kennedy
28:20
um the if the democrats in congress
28:22
really wanted to get rid of donald trump
28:24
they would uh pass the censure measure
28:26
that is in
28:27
uh invoking uh section three
28:31
of the 14th amendment uh which says that
28:34
anyone who
28:35
uh gave comfort to the enemy and that is
28:38
decided by congress just like the
28:40
impeachment
28:41
uh with high crimes and misdemeanors
28:42
they can decide what is giving comfort
28:44
to the enemy
28:45
makes them ineligible to run and the
28:47
only way that that can be overturned
28:49
is with a two-thirds vote that could be
28:51
passed
28:52
with a simple majority but it can only
28:54
be overturned with the two-thirds vote
28:56
and uh that would have rendered uh trump
28:59
uh
28:59
ineligible to run the fact that they
29:01
didn’t do that and that instead they
29:03
went through with this
29:04
knowing full well in fact that was a
29:06
high 57 was
29:07
much more than i honestly expected i
29:09
thought it would be 54 or 55.
29:12
so the fact that even that they still
29:14
didn’t come i mean they were
29:15
seven uh no ten
29:18
nine senators away from being able to
29:21
ten senators away from oh yeah 67.
29:24
that they were 10 senators away from
29:27
from being able to
29:28
convict trump and and and make him
29:31
ineligible again
29:32
they knew it wasn’t going to happen they
29:34
wanted to continue to create this divide
29:36
they wanted to make sure that he can run
29:38
again because they need him
29:40
as their boogie man for their endless
29:41
good caught bad cop routine
29:43
just like the republicans needed barack
29:45
obama and hillary clinton
29:47
and they’ll need joe biden for this next
29:49
one or kamala harris if joe biden
29:52
isn’t president anymore uh this you know
29:55
this is a you know this they need each
29:59
other because why the hell else would
30:00
you vote republican or democrat if it
30:02
wasn’t for
30:03
fear of the democrat or the republican
30:05
so um
30:06
it’s the theater we expected do you
30:08
think trump runs again
30:10
yes yeah you do yeah he he’s doing all
30:13
this stuff
30:14
it’s now if he doesn’t i’m not going to
30:16
be shocked
30:17
because he is an old he is he is an old
30:19
man and he may
30:21
find an heir apparent either an actual
30:23
heir or
30:24
you know just someone who’s gonna take
30:26
the trump america first
30:28
uh uh uh um mantle and run with it
30:32
uh but i i honestly see um
30:35
i honestly see i honestly
30:39
i honestly see trump uh what running
30:42
again he’s doing all the stuff you would
30:43
do if you were
30:44
going to run again almost we we uh
30:47
so i i do oh no not quite but we we
30:51
uh anyone listening to this is going to
30:52
be nine yeah anybody who’s listening on
30:54
anchor is going to be like what
30:56
what is what in the hell is going on
30:58
right now but no i i i do think
31:00
i do i think it’s like 65
31:03
that he runs again um yeah which is what
31:06
the democrats want
31:07
they are intentionally whipping him up
31:09
uh to run again
31:11
and uh and and run another biden
31:14
v trump race which democrats think that
31:17
the win
31:17
and republicans think will keep their
31:20
splintering base
31:21
in line to vote for him just to stop
31:23
biden and to and to you know vote for
31:26
her for
31:26
maggie nation or whatever so i i you
31:29
know i i think it’s going exactly how we
31:31
expected and speaking of going exactly
31:34
how we expected
31:36
andrew cuomo is basically murdering
31:38
people and
31:40
covering it up matt yeah uh
31:45
since march andrew cuomo has killed more
31:46
new yorkers than bin laden
31:48
um
31:55
in a s in a moment of tone deafness
32:00
tone deafness tone deafeness deftedness
32:04
tone definiteness i made that joke um
32:07
also
32:10
andrew cuomo’s secretary
32:13
melissa de rosa uh
32:17
i mean technically it’s not a joke
32:19
that’s why i wouldn’t i mean
32:20
it’s factual i mean it is an actual
32:23
thing he has
32:24
murdered more people more new yorkers
32:28
than bin laden did um
32:33
but uh she apologized to democratic
32:35
lawmakers for withholding the state’s
32:37
nursing home death toll from coven 19
32:39
because they feared that the real
32:40
numbers would be used against
32:42
them by federal prosecutors
32:46
which would have probably been true had
32:48
trump won
32:50
yeah well he so here’s the thing
32:53
she didn’t withhold it from us to public
32:56
which would be bad enough
32:57
she withheld it from they withheld it
32:59
from the federal government
33:02
they committed fraud
33:06
against the federal government you know
33:08
that thing where like if you
33:10
like write something wrong on your tax
33:12
statement or
33:13
you know on on your application for a
33:15
license
33:16
the stuff that they say can happen to
33:18
you imagine if one of the questions is
33:20
how many people died at your house
33:26
and you didn’t answer that one right if
33:28
you say 13
33:29
000 you’re going to prison forever
33:34
yeah especially if it turns out it’s way
33:36
more than that
33:38
so this came as a revelation
33:42
uh to some after uh cuomo’s mandate
33:45
early in the pandemic
33:46
uh that ill-equipped nursing homes had
33:48
to accept recovering covet patients
33:50
that were being discharged from
33:52
hospitals even though the elderly are
33:53
among
33:54
the most vulnerable exponentially more
33:56
vulnerable to the deadly disease you
33:58
know we talk about the fact that for
33:59
you know the overall public the fatality
34:02
rate is somewhere around one percent
34:04
it’s as high as maybe two percent it’s
34:06
as low as maybe point three or point six
34:08
percent
34:08
it’s kind of all over the place there
34:10
but it’s around one percent
34:12
when it’s nursing home residents you’re
34:14
in the double digits
34:15
it’s now like one out of every seven or
34:17
eight people who get it
34:19
are going to die because they are very
34:20
old and they have multiple comorbidities
34:23
including things like existing lung
34:25
problems and copd and
34:27
heart problems and you know recovering
34:30
from cancer
34:31
some of them are in essentially hospice
34:33
palliative care
34:34
like that this is they’re going to die
34:36
from it like the odds of them surviving
34:37
it are exponentially
34:39
worse than literally everyone else so
34:42
that’s where the government sent the
34:43
covet patients
34:46
yep and uh genius
34:49
when derosa was asked uh about why they
34:52
withheld it
34:53
she said uh they directed the department
34:55
of because
34:56
when they
35:00
hang on i stumbled all over that
35:03
sentence
35:04
uh when she asked why they did it she
35:07
said
35:07
trump directed the department of justice
35:09
to do an investigation on us
35:11
uh so they decided to cover up the more
35:13
than 13 000
35:14
13 thousand seniors who died from kovid
35:17
and why did they lie
35:20
because we weren’t sure if what we were
35:22
going to give to the department of
35:24
justice
35:25
or what we give to you guys and what we
35:27
start saying was going to be used
35:29
against us
35:30
and we weren’t sure if there was going
35:32
to be an investigation
35:36
she told the people who would do that
35:40
so you know how we talk about if you get
35:42
pulled over by the police
35:44
but okay so she she did not tell the
35:46
people that would do that
35:48
she told lawmakers this was these were
35:51
democratic lawmakers in the state of new
35:53
york
35:56
these were like these were federal
36:01
these were city council members and
36:02
state house and state senate state house
36:04
oh i don’t know what new york is
36:05
but the the state law the state
36:08
legislature
36:09
in but the democratic party
36:12
because later she
36:15
decided get ready to do the night later
36:18
she did it she
36:19
wanted to apologize for you know lying
36:21
but instead of
36:23
apologizing to you know the families
36:26
of the 13 000 this is what she said
36:28
instead
36:32
so we do apologize i do understand the
36:34
position that you were put in
36:36
i know that it is not fair it was not
36:38
our intention to put you in that
36:39
political position with the republicans
36:42
this was her apology we’re sorry that
36:45
this might have hurt you electorally
36:47
against the republican party
36:49
not we’re sorry that we
36:52
just broke federal law and
36:56
defrauded everyone involved
36:59
by hiding the fact that our
37:03
administration’s policies were directly
37:05
responsible for the deaths of
37:08
13 000 people
37:11
because let’s let’s talk let’s dive into
37:14
this briefly
37:14
do you remember when we were first told
37:16
for the longest time uh there’s a few
37:18
people here with covet but it’s really
37:20
not that bad here
37:21
do you remember that period like this
37:22
was in basically this time last year
37:24
so it was like from late january a year
37:27
ago
37:28
pretty much through february we were
37:30
told yeah there’s there’s one student in
37:32
boston
37:33
and there’s two people in california and
37:35
one person
37:36
in illinois it turned out it was
37:38
spreading wildly and there was no way to
37:40
track it
37:41
because the cdc and the fda weren’t
37:44
allowing
37:44
covid testing and so those few cases
37:47
that we knew about
37:48
were people that had either been
37:49
screened coming in uh or were tested
37:52
illegally and
37:53
the results were released to the public
37:55
um
37:56
as it was spreading out of control state
37:59
governments were taking
38:00
suspected covid patients that were
38:03
recovering
38:04
and shoving them in nursing homes the
38:07
nursing homes were saying
38:09
hey we don’t have the facilities in
38:12
place
38:12
the the protocols in place to protect
38:16
the most vulnerable people in this
38:18
country
38:19
from covid leave them
38:22
in in ers and emergency rooms where they
38:25
do have those kinds of protocols in
38:27
place where they actually can protect
38:28
the rest of the public because that’s
38:30
what they deal with constantly hospitals
38:32
that deal with things like sars and
38:33
things like that and
38:34
and and know how to have the the
38:36
toughest you know biohazard restrictions
38:38
in place to make sure that the virus
38:40
doesn’t
38:40
spread to everyone else and the states
38:42
washington and new york the chief among
38:44
them
38:45
said nah we’re putting them in there so
38:47
then in
38:48
about a roughly two week period of time
38:50
we went from yeah well there’s not
38:52
really a lot of people that have it here
38:53
i think we’re okay
38:54
to oh no a bunch of people have it and
38:57
the fatality rate is like
38:59
six percent the reason the fatality rate
39:02
was so high
39:03
was because they were only reporting the
39:05
cases in the nursing homes
39:07
and the deaths were high as a result of
39:09
that
39:10
that’s what led to all the panic that
39:12
were still suffering from
39:14
now that created these lockdowns that
39:16
created
39:17
all of this this counter-intuitive
39:18
garbage that has done
39:20
nothing to effectively slow the spread
39:22
of the virus long-term
39:23
all of that happened because of that
39:25
weird panic period
39:27
in in the beginning of march first two
39:28
or three weeks of march where we went
39:30
very quickly from
39:31
uh there’s really a few people that have
39:33
it here but we’d have to stay vigilant
39:35
too
39:35
it’s everywhere and people are dying and
39:38
the fatality rate is as high as it is in
39:40
any
39:40
in any uh in any developed country
39:44
absent all of that bad government policy
39:46
at the federal and state level we
39:48
wouldn’t have had that panic
39:51
it’s almost like they did it for that
39:52
reason or they’re just idiots
39:55
but they also covered it up which tends
39:57
to lend itself towards them meaning this
40:03
or being idiots yeah no it could be the
40:05
unknown yeah i was gonna say
40:07
like in all honesty that’s a coin flip
40:10
i’m not sure which one it is
40:12
it could definitely be either one of
40:13
those two things
40:15
it’s cer it’s certainly not stopping i
40:17
mean they just could be
40:19
they could just be purely idiotic and
40:21
evil together
40:24
like a weird like a special combination
40:26
of of of stupid and evil
40:28
and and the thing is right they are even
40:31
if it’s because of stupidity and
40:33
and ineptitude they certainly haven’t uh
40:36
had any problems seizing on the panic
40:38
they’ve created to
40:40
you know to justify even more control
40:42
which they clearly used so amazingly
40:44
with the control that they already had
40:46
um so yeah but this is an absolute
40:51
there’s no apology for the 13 000 dead
40:53
because of their decisions
40:55
there’s a an apology to democrat
40:57
lawmakers
40:59
because it might hurt them in elections
41:02
who here you know you can put in the
41:04
comments folks
41:05
how uh you know what what are the odds
41:08
uh
41:08
that this is gonna lead to you know a
41:11
massive investigation
41:13
and uh and an arrest who who here wants
41:15
to you know
41:17
make put put it this way if if uh if you
41:20
uh think i i heard i heard
41:24
i so i don’t know how true this is
41:26
because this was second hand but i heard
41:29
that the department of justice was
41:31
looking into it but then they dropped it
41:33
shortly after this
41:35
you weren’t supposed to say that yet if
41:38
you think don’t listen to matt
41:40
you might
41:44
this might happen and if you think it
41:46
would happen
41:48
then we’ve got a great deal for you and
41:51
i don’t know if this is legal
41:52
but do it anyway well you could uh
41:55
if you think that andrew cuomo is going
41:59
to be criminally prosecuted
42:01
for this obvious crime of fraud and
42:05
kind of murder sort of uh then go mass
42:08
murder
42:09
uh then donate uh money you can bet
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42:33
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42:36
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42:42
that’s right so just
42:46
i know i know there’s some people
42:48
feeling optimistic
42:52
but i don’t even remember what the last
42:54
bet
42:55
was didn’t happen
42:58
it was equally not going to happen what
43:02
but we have oh if you just want to
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so speaking of making a donation
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to oh gosh
43:31
speaking of a worthy
43:36
speaking of a worthy cause that
43:38
apparently isn’t it that isn’t going to
43:40
happen
43:43
a couple of weeks ago when joe soloski
43:45
was on our show
43:47
we we praised collectively the way that
43:50
uh south dakota governor christie noem
43:53
handled
43:54
covet 19 in her state did a fantastic
43:56
job credit where it’s due
43:59
in that same vein
44:02
we have to take our shots at somebody
44:04
when they deserve it
44:06
so after
44:09
turning to the course to stop voters
44:11
from legalizing recreational marijuana
44:13
in south dakota
44:15
governor christie gnome says she will
44:17
also veto
44:18
any attempt by lawmakers to give voters
44:22
what they’ve demanded
44:23
in both a uh constitutional vote in
44:27
their state
44:28
as well as what they’ve told all of the
44:30
people
44:31
in their capital that they want so
44:35
basically what happened was there was a
44:36
ballot initiative uh
44:38
for 2020 that was approved by 54 percent
44:40
of voters
44:42
to legalize marijuana
44:46
a she her administration
44:50
sued said that it was unconstitutional
44:53
she got a judge uh to uh to rule it out
44:57
to rule it unconstitutional
44:58
and throw it out now she’s saying if
45:00
lawmakers
45:01
uh try to do a similar thing that she’ll
45:04
veto it
45:04
which means they’ll have to have v veto
45:06
proof uh
45:08
legislate they’ll have to have a veto
45:09
proof uh uh margin to be able to
45:11
overturn her veto which is probably not
45:13
gonna happen
45:14
um she also in addition to that
45:18
she uh she uh also is is pushing to try
45:21
to indefinitely delay
45:23
their medical marijuana program that’s
45:26
already been approved
45:27
she’s she’s a drug warrior she’s bought
45:29
into the hype
45:30
about you know oh weeds the devil’s
45:32
lettuce and it’s gonna kill you
45:35
and uh and it’s you know it’s gonna yeah
45:37
you know you’re gonna
45:38
get on worse drugs by starting with weed
45:40
or whatever and
45:42
um you know
45:46
this the woman who we have been praising
45:48
for saying that she
45:49
trusts the voters of her state the
45:51
people of her state
45:53
uh to make uh smart decisions for
45:55
themselves
45:56
when it comes to their health is now
45:59
saying no not so much
46:00
not she trusts them when it comes to a
46:02
pandemic but not whether or not they’re
46:04
allowed to put
46:05
a plant in to consume a plant smoke it
46:08
or eat it or
46:09
or consume it in some other way
46:12
that’s right now a couple of uh
46:15
a couple of stats from uh south dakota
46:18
um from 2009 to 2018
46:22
31 883 people were arrested for
46:25
marijuana in south dakota 95
46:28
of them for possession offenses uh in
46:31
2018
46:32
roughly one out of every 10 arrests in
46:34
south dakota was for marijuana
46:37
um from 2007 to 2000. wait one out of
46:40
every 10 arrests
46:41
of wait one out of every 10 arrests for
46:44
anything
46:45
in south dakota
46:51
sorry go ahead i mean jeez go ahead
46:57
uh marijuana arrest in south dakota
46:59
increased by 166 percent from
47:02
150 600 in 2007 to 4218
47:08
in 2018. gosh
47:12
now we all know the reason why that
47:14
happens
47:16
and it’s uh called fundraising
47:20
on average the arrest rates for native
47:22
americans and black south dakotans has
47:24
been over five times higher than for
47:26
whites for the 10-year period from 2007
47:28
to 2018
47:30
2007 to 2018 yep and even though we know
47:33
like
47:34
i don’t know specifically for south
47:35
dakota but nationwide we know that
47:38
uh the uh we know that usage
47:41
rates of of marijuana are roughly equal
47:44
between different races there are some
47:46
slight uh uh
47:47
increases and decreases from from racial
47:50
demographic to racial demographic but a
47:52
lot of those are actually more tied to
47:54
uh rural versus suburban versus urban
47:57
living
47:58
uh and also poverty levels uh south
48:00
dakota is almost entirely
48:02
rural uh meaning that they’re probably
48:04
very similar there would be no reason
48:06
other than
48:08
the reasons for all of the different
48:09
race uh racial discrepancies and arrest
48:12
rates uh that it would be
48:13
500 percent higher
48:18
um 98 percent of marijuana violations in
48:22
south dakota from 2007 to 2016 were
48:25
standalone offenses meaning the
48:27
individual was not charged with any
48:28
other crime
48:30
in addition 99.1 percent of marijuana
48:33
arrests
48:36
ended with no weapons being seized by
48:39
the police
48:42
and based on the percentage of arrests
48:45
made for marijuana compared to the
48:46
overall law enforcement costs for south
48:48
dakota
48:48
the report estimates that each marijuana
48:51
arrest cost the state approximately
48:53
four thousand dollars
48:57
so this cost eight million dollars
49:02
roughly eight million dollars per year
49:04
or going up to eight million dollars per
49:06
year
49:07
to put people not to mention the
49:08
opportunity cost of losing people that
49:11
otherwise could be
49:12
earning an income and and you know
49:14
generating uh you know money for the
49:16
economy and
49:17
paying tax revenues and all that stuff
49:19
just the cost of of of putting them in
49:21
jail and and prosecuting them and
49:23
everything else
49:24
four thousand dollars per you’re
49:26
spending eight million dollars a year in
49:27
a very small state
49:29
to stop people from competing for big
49:32
pharma for things like pain management
49:35
and uh and even just recreational use uh
49:38
it’s
49:38
absurd um this is exactly
49:41
you know when people talk about oh well
49:44
you know the republicans are
49:45
closer to libertarian on some issues
49:48
yeah
49:48
sure on taxes sort of maybe
49:51
on spending not anymore
49:55
yeah i was going to say on taxes it
49:57
depends because when it comes to
49:58
spending republicans
49:59
they will quickly jump out in support of
50:02
law enforcement military we need to make
50:06
sure
50:06
that they are the first to go with the
50:08
rhodes argument
50:11
you drive on the roads you need the
50:13
roads how else are you gonna who’s gonna
50:14
build the roads as though
50:15
you know there weren’t roads before the
50:17
income tax um
50:20
but republicans are quick to go
50:24
there so as as times per
50:27
like since i’ve become a libertarian
50:29
republicans are less and less
50:31
like libertarians
50:35
yeah yeah and it’s and it’s it’s it’s
50:37
the case with democrats as well you know
50:39
we get people saying well the democrats
50:40
agree with you on the war on drugs
50:42
and immigration and the wars and like
50:44
not always and
50:45
then there’s all that other stuff that
50:47
they disagree with us on you know the
50:48
reality is
50:49
broken clocks are right as often as
50:52
twice a day well
50:53
it should be at least twice a day um
50:55
that’s really what we have with
50:57
republicans democrats they are broken
50:58
clocks that are occasionally right
51:00
but most the vast majority of the time
51:02
they are absolutely wrong
51:04
and uh and this is another example of it
51:06
i mean she literally said
51:07
the reason why we’re not going to
51:08
implement these lockdowns and mass
51:10
mandates and everything else
51:12
is because i can trust the people of my
51:14
state but not
51:15
with a plan so now thankfully
51:18
but not with we but here’s
51:22
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51:31
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51:42
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without further ado here is our
53:09
first question from luke
53:13
hey spike and matt this is luke i have
53:16
two questions for you
53:17
one of them is a joke the other one is
53:19
very serious
53:20
uh the first question will be the joke
53:23
question what is your favorite dinosaur
53:25
i want to hear from both spike and the
53:27
other guy
53:28
and uh second question are birds real
53:33
that is all thank you guys
53:36
so what’s what’s your favorite
53:39
um what’s your favorite dinosaur
53:45
uh the pterodactyl has always
53:48
been my favorite
53:52
i like it the dinobots from transformers
53:57
[Music]
53:59
the pterodactyl was my favorite i think
54:01
his name was gremlock
54:02
it’s been a long time i’m trying to
54:05
think who my favorite was
54:08
um
54:11
i mean optimus prime really oh dinosaurs
54:14
um
54:16
uh my favorite
54:21
it’s been a long day folks um who is my
54:24
favorite dinosaur
54:27
or what is my favorite i guess who it’s
54:30
relative
54:30
um my favorite jeff the dog
54:34
yeah jeff the dinosaur um my favorite
54:37
dinosaur
54:38
i think would have to be
54:41
um
54:45
you know it’s it’s easy to say the t-rex
54:48
actually my favorite dinosaurs whatever
54:50
that thing was they made
54:51
in uh in uh in the the newer
54:54
uh jurassic park installments where it
54:57
was like some kind of hybrid dinosaur no
54:59
my favorite one my favorite dinosaur
55:03
is whatever ate that thing at the end
55:08
of the first jurassic park
55:11
what is the new jurassic park series
55:13
called it’s not i keep wanting to say a
55:14
new hope
55:17
jurassic jurassic world the jurassic
55:20
world
55:20
yeah jurassic world that thing at the
55:23
end
55:24
that the t-rex and the the the uh
55:27
velociraptor
55:29
team up to push the bad thing that they
55:32
made
55:32
into swooty swoop was the transformer
55:36
pterodactyl not grimlock grimlock the
55:39
t-rex
55:40
somebody’s 13 year old was right i
55:43
actually like that the tape cassette
55:47
the one that would i think that was
55:48
sound wave
55:52
was the cassette sound wave i know that
55:54
there was the actual
55:55
player oh the cassette
55:59
the actual little dog cassette yeah
56:03
yeah i don’t know what that i don’t i
56:05
don’t know what that was
56:06
that might be my favorite dinosaur birds
56:09
are not real no
56:10
somebody said mixtape asaurus um yeah
56:13
birds aren’t real
56:15
oh are we do well we’ll do that at the
56:17
end we’ll do a mixtape uh
56:19
trust me there are questions are there
56:22
oh
56:22
okay never mind um
56:25
okay cool so here is our next question
56:28
but yes no birds are not real um next
56:31
question from
56:32
patricia
56:37
good evening guy on left and
56:40
spike who’s never gonna give us the
56:42
mixtape cohen
56:44
this is pat dixon and i’m starting to
56:48
that the whole reason spike is holding
56:52
out
56:52
is to one up matt hicks and the
56:56
infamous hot dog story please
56:59
give us a mixtape spike thank you kindly
57:03
okay so hashtag this is this is
57:07
find spikes mix tape
57:11
this is a little known fact um spike’s
57:14
mixtape was released a few years ago
57:16
uh martin shkreli owns it
57:20
so and he’s never gonna release it along
57:23
with the wu tang
57:24
album so you have spike cohen’s mixtape
57:27
next to the wu-tang album so it was
57:30
actually
57:31
seized by the feds um
57:34
right so the government so it’s really
57:36
their fault
57:38
the federal government will probably
57:40
never release it because
57:42
uh they don’t want to deal with the fire
57:46
that they’ll spread because it’s fire
57:49
no uh what’s a clue about my mixtape
57:59
it’s called spike cohen mixtape
58:03
like there have been all these deep
58:05
dives that people have been doing
58:06
about like maybe it’s after
58:09
jeremy cohen or maybe it’s
58:13
uh what were some of the other ones
58:15
maybe it was his porn name which i never
58:17
did porn but
58:19
if i had did a poor name it wouldn’t be
58:20
under my porn name i i
58:22
it’s just it’s called spike cohen
58:24
mixtape you’re not going to find
58:26
i will eventually have to release it
58:29
because i still have a copy of it i
58:31
still have like the files and everything
58:33
but you’re not it’s not
58:39
they’re not going to find i mean good
58:40
luck it’s i guess it’s not impossible
58:42
that you find it but it’s
58:45
you’re not going to find it um but so
58:47
yeah no so
58:48
in looking to help narrow it down
58:51
it’s just called spike mixtape so
58:54
hopefully that helps
58:55
um here is the next question from
58:58
adam hey matt and guy alright
59:02
this is adam from missouri calling in on
59:04
the chris reynolds personal injury
59:07
attorney chris reynolds attorney at law
59:08
anchor colin moment
59:10
and my question for you is a bit of a
59:13
complex one
59:14
one of the biggest issues i’ve noticed
59:18
with the with libertarians in general is
59:21
um being able to converse about
59:23
controversial topics
59:25
i’ve noticed they tend to devolve into
59:27
very unproductive arguments where
59:29
everyone leaves angry
59:32
my question is what would you recommend
59:35
people do
59:35
to help improve themselves
59:39
on this issue and how would you
59:42
recommend
59:43
people try to help others
59:46
improve on this issue thank you and have
59:49
a
59:50
great day that’s a really good question
59:53
do you have any thoughts on this i i
59:54
obviously have some thoughts on this but
59:56
what
59:58
right um then
60:01
for anybody who uh knows me
60:04
knows that i’m really not the right
60:06
person to answer this question
60:08
um but
60:14
uh honestly how people can
60:17
when people are debating especially when
60:19
they’re debating other libertarians
60:21
um we’ve talked about this a couple of
60:23
times on the show and a lot of it comes
60:25
down to
60:26
uh definitions and communication um yeah
60:29
so what you have to understand i mean
60:33
there are certain things i don’t
60:35
definitions it doesn’t really matter
60:37
what your definitions are aoc is a liar
60:39
um but no matter
60:44
but no but like no matter what when
60:46
you’re coming down to certain
60:47
definitions like capitalism is a big one
60:50
capitalism is a big one between the
60:52
right libertarians and left libertarians
60:54
um you have to come
60:57
from a point of sa being able to say
61:00
what if i’m wrong
61:02
what if the way that i have been
61:04
defining this word
61:06
is wrong
61:09
instead of going in uh bombastically
61:13
full full-fledged thinking i am right
61:15
about every single thing here
61:17
you have to be able to take a step back
61:20
and say
61:20
what if i’m wrong about one thing here
61:23
because that will open it up where you
61:25
are able to
61:26
learn and where you are going to be able
61:28
to be a better listener
61:30
in those situations yeah what if i’m
61:33
wrong or even what if i’m right
61:35
and we’re just using two different sets
61:38
of definite that’s a big one in the
61:40
libertarian world
61:41
like uh right but that’s why i said
61:44
what if i’m wrong about this definition
61:46
oh oh about the definition yeah
61:48
what if i’m wrong about my my actual
61:50
beliefs i might actually
61:52
learn something in this conversation and
61:54
also what if i’m
61:55
wrong in what what i’m applying i rarely
61:58
say the word capitalism anymore and
61:59
here’s why
62:00
capitalism is a term that was coined by
62:02
marxist to describe the system that we
62:04
have right now
62:05
libertarian capitalists and and
62:07
laissez-faire you know people
62:09
decided to rebrand the term as what we
62:12
described which is a free market system
62:14
that doesn’t exist
62:16
so if it was defined by marxists
62:20
the thing we describe it as doesn’t
62:21
exist but what does exist
62:23
is the thing that was defined by
62:25
marxists which they call capitalism and
62:28
which is generally understood by most
62:30
people to be
62:30
capitalism i’m not saying you can’t say
62:32
you support free market capitalism i
62:34
still consider myself an
62:35
interco-capitalist
62:37
it just means that for most people
62:38
that’s not what it means to them so if
62:40
someone comes to you and says
62:41
capitalism’s the problem
62:42
i guarantee you that they’re not saying
62:45
that what you want to have
62:47
is the problem so if you’re already
62:48
going to start arguing with them by
62:50
going
62:50
we don’t have capitalism you’re not a
62:52
lot different than the people who say
62:54
that wasn’t real communism no it wasn’t
62:57
real
62:57
communism because real communism is a
63:00
pipe dream
63:01
real communism is the idea that after
63:03
the implementation of a state of the
63:05
proletariat that it will eventually
63:06
devolve
63:07
into it will eventually or evolve and
63:10
and and and break down
63:11
into a stateless society with no
63:14
hierarchies
63:15
anarchy that’s what they call real
63:17
communism but they often
63:19
get stuck with having to defend actual
63:21
communism that actually happened
63:23
and they go out with some real communism
63:25
and we go it wasn’t real communism huh
63:27
and then someone says yeah this
63:28
capitalism sucks we well that’s
63:29
not real capitalism we’re doing the same
63:31
thing like we don’t have to be married
63:33
to our definitions
63:34
and and you know so that’s that’s a big
63:36
part of it and then i guess one final
63:38
thing
63:38
is just we so
63:42
no go ahead i was gonna say so what
63:45
what a lot of people on the right or
63:48
sorry would a lot of people on the left
63:49
consider capitalism
63:52
a lot of people who consider themselves
63:53
capitalists we call it you know crony
63:55
corporatism or corporatism or
63:58
crony capitalism cronyism like we we
64:00
throw in the crony on top of it
64:03
to be like no that’s different that’s
64:04
not that’s not what we’re about that
64:06
that’s cronyism that’s crony capitalism
64:08
that’s you know
64:09
whatever um and by throwing on that
64:13
extra we think that we’re
64:14
differentiating where the people
64:15
on the opposite side especially the left
64:18
libertarians they don’t see that they’re
64:19
like capitalism as capitalism
64:21
because that’s what’s going to happen
64:24
yeah
64:24
and that’s that’s exactly it and and you
64:26
know we
64:28
we would do well to speak to people
64:31
about definitions
64:32
to find out that we often agree in
64:35
principle on the terms now
64:36
uh justice mitchell uh in the comments
64:38
says anarchy is a means to an end for
64:40
marxist not the end
64:41
actually no for for straight up not
64:43
marxist leninists or stalinists or
64:45
maoists or
64:46
dengues or anything like that but for
64:48
straight up like you know old school
64:50
marxists
64:51
no the end to them is what they call
64:53
anarchy
64:54
which is not just the elimination of
64:55
unnatural hierarchies like
64:57
uh like the government and things like
64:59
that the state but also the elimination
65:01
of what they think to be
65:02
all on all hierarchies being unnatural
65:05
um
65:05
now we as right-leaning anarchists would
65:08
say no there are some hierarchies
65:10
that are natural uh if i
65:13
hire you to do something and i say i’m
65:16
paying you
65:16
but i need you to do this one thing for
65:18
me to whatever extent you’re doing
65:21
something for me in exchange for
65:22
compensation there’s a level of
65:23
hierarchy
65:24
there’s a hierarchy that comes from you
65:26
know trusting people
65:27
to be experts on something and and
65:29
deferring to them on on things but
65:31
choosing to defer to them so what’s
65:33
important to us isn’t removing all
65:35
hierarchy
65:36
it’s removing the coercion and allowing
65:38
hierarchy to naturally rise
65:40
and naturally be created in a much more
65:42
decentralized way and based on actual
65:44
merit and value rather than
65:46
you know i i’m gonna point a gun at you
65:48
and force you into my hierarchy or use
65:51
the state
65:51
or use some kind of coercive mechanisms
65:53
to force you into it
65:55
but no they they want what they call
65:56
anarchy as well um which is another
65:58
perfect example of definitions
66:00
we can often talk to each other and even
66:01
if we don’t walk away agreeing 100
66:03
percent
66:04
uh we can walk away realizing wow i
66:07
agree with this person a lot more than i
66:08
did before
66:09
the other and part of that what what
66:11
leans into that is
66:13
talk to the other person as though you
66:15
actually want to hear what they have to
66:17
say
66:18
instead of have a debate and an argument
66:20
with them
66:22
even if they’re trying to still have
66:24
that argument with you you don’t have to
66:26
match their energy you can say to them
66:28
hey what do you think about this
66:29
okay that’s interesting what do you
66:31
think about that two things happen
66:32
number one
66:33
you’re finding out what they actually
66:35
think and number two
66:36
they in the back of their head are
66:37
realizing wow this person actually wants
66:40
to have a conversation with me they’re
66:41
not you know i can put i can put my
66:43
dukes down and we can actually have a
66:45
talk and a a
66:46
a good faith flowing of ideas between
66:48
each other
66:49
that will go so much further not just in
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the libertarian world but but
66:52
in everything that we do approaching
66:55
people as people who have who have at
66:56
least a
66:57
valid uh potential valid points to make
67:00
and that you might be missing out by
67:02
fighting them instead of listening to
67:03
them
67:04
and and hopefully they can get their
67:06
dukes down
67:07
so that now they’re not missing out on
67:09
what you can you can share with them so
67:10
that that’s the answer to that
67:12
um uh let’s see here someone asked
67:15
how is mixtape pronounced i can’t find
67:17
it anymore
67:18
it’s just mixtape m-i-x-t-a-p
67:21
it’s just mixtape um yeah kill him with
67:24
kindness elizabeth
67:29
yeah he was oh i guess nobody’s saying
67:31
how is it spelled
67:32
it’s just mix tape oh
67:35
yeah not pronounced how is it spelled
67:37
m-i-x-t-a-p it’s just mixtape
67:39
um so here’s the next one from
67:43
uh adam next question from adam
67:49
hey spiking guy on left this is adam
67:51
from missouri calling in on the
67:53
chris reynolds personal injury attorney
67:54
chris reynolds attorney at law anchor
67:56
colin moment and what i’ve got for you
68:00
this time is something i’ve noticed
68:04
is people on both left and the right are
68:07
pushing to bring in more freedom-minded
68:10
and younger people into their respective
68:13
parties
68:14
in an attempt to reform them from the
68:16
inside
68:18
now i can see how this could potentially
68:22
work
68:23
however i’m going to keep my personal
68:26
opinions out of this one
68:29
what i want to know is what’s your
68:30
guys’s opinions on this
68:32
and how do you believe the libertarians
68:35
should respond um shalom shalom
68:39
have a blessed day my friends shalom
68:43
so so i
68:46
am for a very brief stint
68:50
in time uh worked for the republican
68:52
liberty caucus which was
68:54
a caucus for the republicans that was
68:55
attempting to bring liberty-minded
68:57
people
68:58
into the libertarian party um
69:02
this is what i’ve learned from them and
69:06
i feel as though it isn’t much different
69:09
on the democrats
69:10
if at all people will run as liberty
69:14
candidates
69:16
a good example of this would be
69:20
oh god the woman from your state
69:24
she was a big nikki haley she’s against
69:26
him nikki haley
69:28
oh yeah nikki josh that’s so long ago
69:31
yeah she ran as like a libertarian
69:33
minded yeah i forgot all about that yeah
69:36
yeah yeah she ran as like a ron paul
69:38
light
69:39
yeah um but they run as these
69:42
liberty-minded candidates
69:44
and then they get in and once they’re
69:47
inside
69:48
either the top brass in the parties
69:51
are like hey you have to vote with us
69:53
whenever you whenever
69:55
we vote and you end up just becoming one
69:57
of them
69:58
or they primary you and you get kicked
70:00
out
70:02
obvious a few examples a few few
70:05
exceptions being like justin amash who
70:07
he ended up leaving and he ended up
70:09
leaving yeah
70:12
right and thomas massey yeah but if you
70:15
take a look at say
70:17
if you take a look and say oh somebody
70:19
from kentucky maybe
70:20
rand uh he started out
70:24
as you know ron paul he was the second
70:26
coming you know he was gonna be ron paul
70:29
in the senate yeah yep
70:32
and after four years of trump
70:37
he’s better than most senators
70:41
but not by much not by much and honestly
70:45
i think it’s offset by the fact that
70:46
he’s putting the libertarian brand
70:49
on that stuff he does so the libertarian
70:53
brand sir so many times when i’ll say
70:54
libertarian
70:55
there are times that people will say or
70:57
i’ll say i’m a libertarian and people go
70:58
oh like rand paul and i’m like nope
71:02
like a libertarian here’s what
71:03
libertarians think
71:05
and they’ll say oh but rand paul i’m
71:06
like i’m not rand paul rand paul is a
71:09
republican
71:10
he describes himself as a
71:11
constitutionalist conservative
71:14
he is not a libertarian and he has taken
71:17
that
71:17
mantle of libertarianism and used it to
71:20
describe
71:21
trumpism with a little liberty flair at
71:23
the end but the liberty flares just
71:25
mostly rhetoric right like he introduces
71:28
the brianna taylor act
71:29
which is a great justice for brianna
71:31
taylor act it’s a great thing
71:33
it ends no knock raids it had zero
71:36
percent chance of passing it
71:37
did not pass it never will pass uh or at
71:39
least under republicans and democrats it
71:41
won’t pass
71:42
but then what he does is he’ll turn
71:43
around and vote for these
71:45
absurd budgets that you know give you
71:47
know trillions of dollars in additional
71:49
deficit spending which he said he
71:51
wouldn’t do
71:52
then he will vote for uh you know
71:54
terrible appointees
71:55
to the uh you know to uh uh intelligence
71:59
uh
71:59
director of intelligence to state
72:01
department to defense department
72:03
as long as it’s a republican doing it
72:05
then he will meet with donald trump
72:07
again i just talked to donald trump and
72:08
he thought he’s gonna end the worst yay
72:10
liberty
72:11
and then trump doesn’t do anything but
72:13
then trump gets to turn around and say
72:15
yeah i’m somewhat libertarian rand paul
72:18
likes me
72:19
so yeah i’d say his his slightly better
72:21
voting record
72:23
um is offset by the fact that he is
72:26
assigning he’s the most prominent person
72:29
in politics
72:30
who calls himself a libertarian and
72:34
he’s also the literal heir of ron paul
72:37
and it’s just very disappointing
72:41
it is extremely disappointing so you can
72:42
either go that way
72:44
or an equivalent in in the uh in the
72:47
in on the democratic side is aoc aoc
72:50
talks a great game about a lot of stuff
72:52
even a liberty minded game on certain
72:54
things uh especially when it comes to
72:56
wars and and decriminalization and
72:58
and you know that the war on war on uh
73:01
uh there were on
73:02
people that were on drugs and all this
73:04
stuff then she votes for it
73:07
she was one of the most outspoken about
73:10
this stimulus bill
73:12
then she voted for it so
73:15
there’s one of two things that you can
73:16
do is you can
73:18
go with the program or you can get
73:19
kicked out go ahead
73:22
uh she she and trump were on two
73:24
opposite sides both of them
73:26
were saying both of them were saying oh
73:29
we shouldn’t pass this bill
73:30
because of reasons and
73:35
same reasons for both i think they
73:37
didn’t have time to read it it’s a
73:38
terrible bill we don’t know what’s in it
73:40
you know all that yeah
73:41
both she and trump well she voted for it
73:44
trump signed it
73:45
trump signed it and then and then pulled
73:47
this thing of saying oh well i’m gonna
73:50
i’m going to send back my
73:51
recommendations for changes
73:53
which do nothing because if they decide
73:56
not to
73:56
it goes as is and the worst i can do is
73:59
embar is
74:00
keep it from being implemented for 30
74:01
days and i’m not even going to be
74:02
president for that long right
74:05
and people he pocket veto no he didn’t
74:07
there is no such thing as a pocket veto
74:09
or a line of veto he didn’t do it well
74:11
actually there is a pocket veto that’s
74:12
refusing to sign it he didn’t do that he
74:14
signed it
74:15
he literally signed it she literally
74:16
voted for it you’re never going to be
74:18
able to change the republican or
74:19
democrat parties from the inside because
74:21
they are one party
74:22
they are the republicrap machine that
74:24
has been built for the benefit of a
74:26
small handful of incredibly powerful
74:28
crony corporates corporations and
74:30
multi-billionaires
74:31
who use these two parties and the good
74:34
cop bad cop routine that they’ve created
74:37
to rob americans of having a viable
74:39
option
74:40
away from the the theft that they’re
74:42
being imposed that’s being imposed upon
74:44
them
74:44
by those powerful people and the clowns
74:46
they put in office there is no changing
74:48
that system
74:49
you have to replace them with people who
74:51
aren’t going to do that and who want to
74:52
not only just replace them in office but
74:54
actually dismantle that entire
74:56
system so um here is the next
75:01
question from will
75:05
[Music]
75:06
will mcelveen here on the chris reynolds
75:09
personal
75:10
personal injury attorney attorney at law
75:13
anchor call-in moment as laser legend
75:16
would say
75:17
tm got a question for you all on speed
75:21
limits
75:22
is it just me or is speed or speed
75:24
limits just arbitrary
75:26
like i should be able to go as fast as i
75:28
want as long as i’m not endangering
75:29
people i mean come on now
75:31
it’s just [ __ ] second question
75:34
spike i’m more than willing to come to
75:37
your house
75:38
and rifle through your cd collection so
75:41
i can find this mixtape
75:43
i feel like we need to have this mixtape
75:47
anyway you know how i feel about y’all
75:51
i love you and hashtag guy all fun
75:57
there is
76:00
yeah oh i love will um so everyone
76:04
this is there was
76:07
a both a cd and cassette of the mixtape
76:11
there were actually multiple
76:13
cds and cassettes because all the tracks
76:14
couldn’t fit on just one
76:17
those are all gone those were all of
76:21
not sure why all of my cars get totaled
76:23
eventually either by me or someone else
76:25
it’s just what happens and uh i
76:29
i keep my cars until they get totaled
76:31
and then i get a new one
76:32
usually often by someone else but uh
76:36
the uh i had a a uh cd
76:39
and i had a cassette because the cd
76:42
changer in my
76:44
was it the market or the town car one of
76:46
my cars stopped working so i also so i
76:48
actually
76:49
made i actually recorded a cassette from
76:51
recorded cassettes from the cds
76:54
so because the cd changer stopped
76:55
working so
76:57
that existed it does there is no
77:00
none of those exist anymore they don’t
77:03
i have that i have the actual files
77:07
on both my phone and my computer so it’s
77:10
not there’s nothing to rifle through
77:12
it’s not lost and it is somewhere online
77:19
so if this cd is so fire is there a
77:22
chance that this cd
77:25
totaled your car
77:31
there is a not zero percent chance that
77:34
that’s
77:37
that list that it was so good that
77:39
listening to it i got distracted from
77:42
driving
77:45
there may have been other things that
77:46
also corrected
77:49
jessica mitchell said spike what’s your
77:51
social i need to find your mixtape
77:55
do you need my credit card number two
77:57
that’ll probably help um
77:58
right yeah no it’s uh it’s it’s uh
78:02
yeah it’s really it’s it’s a guy i just
78:05
want to say i
78:06
said from the beginning i’m like you’re
78:07
not gonna find my mixtape i was like
78:08
we’re gonna find it
78:09
it’s it’s not like
78:14
it’s not cryptic if you can find it it’s
78:16
going to be very easy
78:18
like it says mixtape here i’ll show you
78:21
here
78:23
it’s called spike cohen mixtape here’s
78:25
here so here’s a little
78:26
now as far as speed limits go
78:30
oh yeah let’s go well i i agree with you
78:34
i don’t think that uh speed limits are
78:36
necessary or
78:37
should be a thing um to which often
78:39
times people will say
78:41
what about in the school zones or
78:42
residential areas where kids are and i’m
78:45
my answer is the same no they shouldn’t
78:47
exist
78:48
uh you speeding isn’t breaking any real
78:50
law it’s just a law that they’ve
78:52
created for revenue uh but if you
78:56
hit somebody while doing 65 in a school
78:58
zone then
78:59
yeah you should probably be punished for
79:01
uh manslaughter or murder
79:03
uh that’s just my personal thought on it
79:07
um it’s just revenue
79:10
it’s just it’s it’s like a point of like
79:12
when they were talking about making the
79:14
dui limit
79:15
0.05 nationwide that that’s just revenue
79:18
building
79:19
at that point that’s like that’s like
79:20
you had a drink earlier on in the day or
79:23
the fall
79:24
or or or like you had a drink late at
79:25
night and woke up the next morning to go
79:27
to work and there’s still a tradition
79:29
trace amount it’s revenue it’s just for
79:31
revenue you’re not impaired in any real
79:33
way
79:34
and uh when it comes to these speed
79:36
limits
79:37
you’re going 52 in a in a 45
79:43
and
79:46
and then especially like on these
79:47
highways where you’ll be coming off a
79:49
highway where the speed limit 65 or 70
79:51
and then right as you’re getting on it’s
79:54
now
79:54
immediately 40 or 45 and there are a
79:57
bunch of cops there that’s not about
79:58
safety because now they got
79:59
everyone’s slamming on their brakes
80:01
that’s not safe like that
80:02
it’s not about safety it’s about it’s
80:04
about revenue collection
80:06
so a little like they’re for the people
80:09
that want to pretend that this mixtape
80:10
is not real
80:12
i don’t know why i’m fueling this fire i
80:14
feel like i should be saying oh no
80:15
you’re right it’s not real
80:17
and then everyone had stopped talking
80:18
about it but but i feel challenged
80:20
because it is
80:21
real um here here’s a here’s a
80:24
this is from a second please
80:28
why is that not focusing
80:31
well that’s because the light’s shining
80:33
right on it
80:35
it’s your it’s your face light is
80:37
shining on it
80:38
so you can’t see it
80:41
well that’s not helping oh also
80:47
no that didn’t seem to make a change
80:50
here we go anyway this is
80:51
like there’s an actual spike cohen mixed
80:54
tape
80:55
look this is real this is an actual
80:58
there isn’t like it’s real
80:59
this i i listened to this on a regular i
81:01
was listening to it earlier today
81:04
it’s real and again for five bitcoin i
81:07
will
81:07
five bitcoins i will release it listen
81:10
for two bitcoins i’ll release it
81:15
anyway i was going to give you three of
81:17
the bitcoins oh
81:18
then no do you have to you have to give
81:22
it to matt
81:25
give it a map so all right so thank you
81:28
you can have the
81:29
you can have the mixtape for the low low
81:31
price of 250
81:33
000 you too can have the
81:36
spike owen mixtape uh here’s the next
81:38
question from
81:39
from will will mac will be in here with
81:42
the barcelona minute
81:44
just curious what y’all think is going
81:46
to happen in la liga
81:48
varsa’s tied on points if i remember
81:50
correctly
81:51
real is unfortunately atop the table
81:55
but what do y’all think can messy and
81:57
the blog right now pull it back or
81:59
is it just just another tropoulos season
82:04
i love you guys also side note
82:07
corn pop told me to stop telling y’all
82:09
about
82:10
soccer obviously but um
82:13
anyway trying to think if there was
82:16
anything else i tried to leave a message
82:18
earlier and it wouldn’t let me i don’t
82:19
know why
82:20
and i can’t remember for the life i mean
82:21
what it was anyway
82:24
hashtag he’s like the bob ross
82:28
of leaving messages like hey he is i
82:32
tried leaving a message before
82:34
no big deal but
82:38
i did not understand the question fully
82:40
but
82:42
i’m probably going to say that uh
82:46
yep um that um messi
82:49
and the boys will go trophy list this
82:51
year
82:53
yeah tropulas that’s just my guess
82:59
tropoulos
83:04
i don’t know what that is
83:10
it doesn’t look like it’s a real word
83:14
i like it though i want to make that be
83:16
a word
83:19
here’s a question from scott
83:23
hello guy on left and spike this is
83:26
scott from your
83:27
favorite blue state deep in the trenches
83:30
yeah
83:30
this will never not be funny that people
83:34
are like hey spike and guy on left
83:36
i just anyway sorry pedal washington
83:39
calling
83:40
on the chris reynolds guy on left
83:43
i just love it i love that it’s becoming
83:45
i think that it’s like i just leaned
83:46
into it at this point
83:48
you’re now guy online we have we have
83:50
team guy on left shirts at the store
83:51
muddy water store you can go buy a team
83:53
guy on left shirt hotline
83:55
i have a two-part question here and feel
83:57
free to answer both or none
84:00
i just recently purchased the spike
84:02
cohen neck gator
84:03
and the muddy waters media hoodie off of
84:06
the website
84:07
how do i convince my wife that the
84:09
newfound attention i am receiving from
84:11
both ladies
84:11
and gentlemen alike is probably more
84:14
closely related to spike’s face covering
84:17
my face
84:18
and second question what are the chances
84:21
of us getting a drunk matt hicks is my
84:23
spirit animal t-shirt on the website
84:25
hashtag laser legend hashtag spike for
84:28
anything he wants to run for
84:30
hashtag free the guy on the left hashtag
84:32
welty for governor washington state
84:36
i like welty i would definitely go with
84:38
anthony welty for governor
84:39
i would support that ticket let’s put
84:41
the hell out of that ticket
84:42
um i don’t know i drunk matt
84:45
hicks is my spirit animal
84:49
it’s my spirit animal i don’t i i’m not
84:52
against it
84:52
um i’m not against i see no problem
84:56
putting
84:57
i have no problem with using the
84:58
graphics guy to put that together
85:01
i was going to say if someone if someone
85:02
wants to make a graphic for that
85:04
uh a high quality graphic for that that
85:06
we can be used for screen printing i
85:08
yeah let’s do it um oh and
85:12
i mean listen it’s not gonna be hard to
85:13
convince your wife when she sees the
85:15
gator
85:16
she sees me doing the thing she’s gonna
85:17
be like oh i get it i get why
85:20
why the ladies and gentlemen are coming
85:23
to our yard for your milkshake
85:25
um you know i recommend it i don’t think
85:29
i don’t think there’s gonna have to be a
85:30
lot of
85:31
explanation
85:34
when you’re wearing the gator what i
85:35
recommend is um
85:37
tucking the head in but trying to make
85:40
it where the body
85:41
is all showing so it just looks like you
85:44
have this really large head
85:46
on this body doing the
85:49
shirt open thing um
85:53
that’ll get even more attention that
85:55
would be that would get all the
85:57
attention
85:58
that would i mean that’s how i would
85:59
wear it
86:01
and again you’re not gonna have to
86:02
explain this to your wife it’s gonna be
86:04
intuitive she’s gonna be like oh okay i
86:05
get it
86:06
uh but thank you for calling i think
86:07
that was i think that was scott’s first
86:09
call wasn’t it
86:10
i think i think so yeah well thank you
86:14
thank you for uh
86:14
visiting our uh and buying things
86:18
yeah thank you for buying our stuff
86:19
everyone if you want
86:21
your wife to be jealous of you if you
86:24
like be like scott
86:25
and make your make your spouse jealous
86:28
so that they’ll want to buy stuff on our
86:29
store too
86:30
muddy waters media then you press the
86:32
store button uh so now we have two
86:34
questions from matt
86:35
laser legend hicks himself
86:38
hey guys this is matt hicks calling in
86:42
on the
86:42
personal injury attorney chris reynolds
86:44
attorney at law anchor call and moment
86:46
tm it’s time for my serious
86:50
question so uh i i heard an interview
86:53
that lindsey graham did on um i think
86:56
fox news because that’s where he lives
86:58
basically
87:00
yeah lindsey graham and he’s wait a
87:02
second
87:06
i feel personally attacked
87:11
because i’m on fox news every week now
87:15
i’m sure you didn’t mean it that way has
87:18
uh
87:19
you’re a vibrant future republican party
87:22
what was that you’re on kennedy that’s
87:26
different that’s not like
87:28
you’re not on tucker that’s fair
87:32
no you’re right you’re right i’m not on
87:33
like the five
87:35
or whatever okay that’s fair right
87:37
vibrant future in the republican party
87:44
um i’d like to get your guy’s opinion on
87:48
on how you think
87:48
that shit’s going to play out hashtag
87:52
laser legend
87:53
i didn’t i saw i need to play this part
87:54
again because i know he said he said
87:57
no it’s vibrating
88:00
saying that lindsey graham has a vibrant
88:02
future in the republican party
88:05
lindsey graham said that trump has a
88:06
vibrant future
88:08
in the republican party and we kind of
88:11
touched on this earlier
88:12
and yes
88:16
trump does have a vibrant future in the
88:17
republican party
88:19
will it be donald trump or will it be
88:22
one of the trumps
88:25
that’s also possible yeah
88:28
trump’s legacy is going to be living on
88:30
in the republican party
88:32
and the trumpites the mega the mega
88:34
people
88:35
they’re going to be lining up to vote
88:37
for you know whether it’s don jr or eric
88:40
or ivanka or baron
88:43
or even the other one whose name i don’t
88:45
know
88:46
um they’ll continue to do they
88:49
oh yeah
88:54
um um
88:57
but they will absolutely line up to do
88:59
this
89:00
and it will it will become
89:03
part of the republican dna
89:06
essentially i think um so lindsey graham
89:09
lindsey graham is right yes there is a
89:11
vibrant future for trump and the
89:13
libertarian
89:14
nope in the republican party um
89:18
there is a vibrant future for trump in
89:20
the republican party
89:21
but um it’s whether or not
89:26
the people he has uh
89:29
the people he had the people
89:33
whether it’s him or another trump yeah
89:36
yeah i i honestly think donald trump
89:38
himself
89:39
if he stays in the party will continue
89:41
to be the dominant person in the party
89:43
he will probably destroy the party in
89:45
the process
89:46
ensuring that he stays dominant because
89:48
everyone else is going to leave and jump
89:49
ship
89:50
uh to either the democrats or form their
89:52
own party
89:53
or join the libertarians or some other
89:55
third party or just
89:57
not vote anymore because they’ve become
89:58
totally black-pilled
90:00
um you know so but can he continue to
90:03
stay dominant very
90:04
possibly that’s very possible um yeah
90:07
dominant in american politics he’ll
90:09
dominate the conversation but i don’t
90:11
he’s never going to get elected again
90:13
he if he ran again he’s going to lose by
90:15
an even wider margin
90:17
um it’s just it’s people are showering
90:20
on him
90:20
and it and it’s him you know in this
90:23
last election
90:24
republicans did well they held way more
90:28
seats than they were expected to hold in
90:29
the senate because they were they were
90:30
defending the 2014
90:32
landslide they had in the senate uh
90:35
uh because it was six years later um
90:37
they gained 12 seats in the house they
90:39
gained a ton of seats at the state and
90:40
local level
90:41
this was a we don’t want donald trump
90:44
any more
90:45
decision so you know and he could
90:48
succeed in destroying the republican
90:49
party in the process
90:50
or making the republican party just very
90:52
very small
90:53
and and and because the republicrat
90:55
system relies on the on the the lesser
90:57
evils thing
90:57
it they’ll have to create something else
90:59
to replace it or take it over and
91:02
and keep it as a lesser evil party but i
91:04
i really don’t know what to tell you
91:06
um so here’s our final one from uh matt
91:09
hicks
91:11
hello gone left and spike this is
91:15
matt hicks calling in on the uh
91:18
personal injury attorney chris reynolds
91:20
attorney at law anchor calling moment
91:22
tm uh
91:26
i’m sure europe stop barking i’m sure
91:29
you’re well aware
91:30
that um dear dear miss
91:33
amy cooper
91:37
i think it’s amy whatever
91:40
white lady in new york who called the
91:42
cops on a
91:43
black guy because he was bird watching
91:45
and she didn’t have a dog on a leash
91:48
if you haven’t talked about it yet yeah
91:49
she had all the charges against her
91:51
dropped
91:54
kind of like to get your thoughts on
91:56
that one
91:58
yeah hashtag laser legend
92:03
so for anybody who doesn’t know what
92:05
matt is talking about we happen to have
92:07
video
92:08
of the ncaa we do which i am pulling up
92:12
right now as we speak
92:17
would you please stop they can hear it
92:21
please don’t come close to me sir i’m
92:23
asking you to stop recording
92:24
please don’t come close to me please
92:26
don’t come close to me
92:28
please please call the cops please call
92:31
the cops
92:32
i’m gonna tell them there’s an
92:33
african-american man threatening my life
92:34
please tell them whatever you like
92:39
excuse me so she’s choking the dog while
92:42
she’s threatening to try to have a black
92:43
guy killed by the police
92:51
i’m sorry i’m in the ramble and there is
92:52
a man african-american who is a fighter
92:55
he is recording me and threatening me
92:56
and my dog
93:00
there is an african-american man i am in
93:02
trouble
93:03
he is recording me and threatening
93:04
myself and my dog
93:18
so this happened like eight months ago
93:21
somebody said didn’t
93:22
this is pretty old yeah it is uh today i
93:25
think it was today it’s today or
93:26
yesterday all charges against her were
93:27
dropped
93:28
um and the reason that they were dropped
93:32
according to according to new york uh
93:36
the reason that
93:37
even the dog hates her um the reason
93:40
that they were dropped
93:41
uh according to new york is that uh as
93:45
part of a plea deal she went through
93:47
uh like anger management classes and
93:50
sensitivity courses and
93:51
something um and she and her
93:55
therapist counselor said that she
93:57
learned a lot and that she
93:59
the counselor doesn’t believe that she
94:01
is a threat or
94:02
that she has any um
94:06
chance of repeating i guess um now
94:13
i don’t think that it would have been
94:15
the same outcome
94:19
had roles been reversed of course
94:23
yeah so here’s this is a perfect example
94:25
of like when we talk about
94:27
the disproportionate sentencing and harm
94:31
and arrests that are happening for
94:32
people of color
94:33
and gender and sexual minorities and
94:35
other marginalized people compared to
94:37
the average situation that happens with
94:39
white people again
94:40
every individual situation is different
94:42
but generally speaking
94:43
there’s a a easily trackable
94:46
and and and measurable uh worsening of
94:49
of
94:50
outcomes relative to whether you’re a
94:52
person of color or not
94:53
whether you’re poor or not whether
94:55
you’re uh you know uh
94:56
gay or trans or or or or pan gender or
95:00
not
95:00
um we’re not saying that we want
95:05
white people to suffer as much as people
95:08
of color are
95:08
we’re saying the opposite we want when
95:11
something happens with
95:13
someone who isn’t a white woman who
95:16
apologizes afterwards
95:17
and says oh so sorry that they also
95:21
get the you know don’t get the the book
95:23
thrown at them
95:26
yes i made it can you say sorry sorry i
95:29
mean
95:29
canadian story
95:32
i’m feeling the canadian vibe with that
95:34
um
95:35
we you know we want we’re d we want
95:38
where
95:39
where the the courts go oh well did you
95:41
learn your lesson did the counselor
95:42
you know talk you through this and you
95:43
learn you’re like okay great then
95:45
whatever because let’s be clear
95:46
we’re talking about a woman when you say
95:49
i’m going to call the police
95:50
and say that an african-american
95:53
gentleman
95:54
is threatening my life you are saying
95:56
i’m going to bring the police here
95:59
to physically harm you
96:02
possibly even kill you like that’s a
96:06
threat of
96:07
violence to add a little cherry to the
96:10
top of that mess
96:11
she’s choking her dog like that dog
96:14
couldn’t breathe a few of those times
96:16
and she’s like basically abusing the dog
96:18
again on the scale of things the whole
96:21
threatening to have a man murdered
96:23
or or or greatly beaten and put in a
96:25
cage
96:26
certainly outweighs the choking the dog
96:28
but she was also choking a dog
96:30
so it’s like she’s being about as much
96:33
of a menace to everyone
96:34
and everything around her as she could
96:35
be in that
96:37
for anybody who doesn’t know how this
96:39
entire situation got started
96:41
um gentlemen i don’t i don’t know his
96:44
name anymore yeah i don’t remember him
96:47
he was uh he was in the park uh with a
96:50
pair of binoculars bird watching
96:53
and she was letting her dog run around
96:57
uh off the leash and i think it was
96:59
barking at him and he said hey can you
97:01
get your dog and then you kind of see
97:05
everything that happens after that
97:08
um she
97:11
took off she took offense to it and then
97:13
uh he
97:14
started recording her she didn’t like it
97:16
and she said that uh
97:18
she called the police and said an
97:19
african-american man is threatening me
97:21
and my dog
97:23
an african-american man is threatening
97:24
me and my she said it like four times
97:26
she said it like three or four times i’m
97:28
being threatened by an african-american
97:30
man
97:31
now thankfully when the police showed up
97:34
jesse gifford has a
97:35
point though birds aren’t real so what
97:38
was he really doing
97:39
um
97:43
research amy cooper truth
97:48
no listen uh
97:52
i you know thankfully when the police
97:53
showed up they saw this for what it was
97:56
uh he was not charged with anything and
98:00
uh and and you know and and and she was
98:03
actually charged
98:04
with you know filing a fall you know
98:06
threat threat uh filing a false police
98:08
report and and i think animal cruelty
98:10
i’m not i’m honestly not sure all of the
98:12
charges she had but
98:13
i mean we we saw the stuff she could
98:15
have been charged with i’m
98:18
happy that
98:22
it sounds like hopefully i hope it’s
98:24
true that
98:26
she’s learned her lesson and will never
98:28
do something like this again i hope
98:29
that’s true
98:30
and i’m glad that her life has not
98:32
potentially you know
98:33
been ruined as a result uh uh uh
98:37
you know uh as a result of it we want
98:40
that to happen more
98:41
for everyone that’s that’s what we say
98:43
when this is happening uh uh someone in
98:45
the car
98:46
jared said you know when people say well
98:48
yeah white people get shot by the police
98:49
too like that’s a good thing
98:50
people shouldn’t have to worry about
98:52
being shot by the police no matter what
98:53
color you are exactly
98:54
when we’re talking about this stuff and
98:56
people go well you know white people
98:58
get hurt by the police too yeah
99:01
not not usual not proportionately the
99:03
same unless they’re poor and then it’s
99:04
actually pretty close
99:06
but yeah which is another reason to
99:09
reform the police and hold them
99:11
accountable and and have restorative
99:13
justice instead of punitive justice yes
99:15
it will help everyone
99:16
it will even help comfortable suburban
99:19
upper middle white women upper middle
99:22
income white women it’ll help everyone
99:23
it’ll help it’ll be good for everyone
99:25
it’ll be especially good for those who
99:27
are
99:27
the most likely to be harmed by the
99:29
current system but it you know
99:31
everyone will be will be helped by it so
99:33
that’s what we think about it
99:34
uh now thankfully because now what we do
99:37
with this show
99:38
is when we talk about the worst things
99:40
we just keep saying thankfully
99:42
to make it sound better thankfully we
99:44
have a really good topic to talk about
99:46
which is brought to you by our new
99:48
sponsor the gravy king
99:53
so joe biden uh is
99:56
um thankfully uh
100:00
doing what we talked about 30 what 26
100:04
episodes ago
100:07
yeah so 26 episodes ago
100:11
yeah 20 20 back on episode 156
100:15
so like six months ago yeah like six
100:17
months ago
100:18
uh we had uh we talked about joe biden’s
100:21
plan for guns
100:22
and it was spoiler alert you want to
100:24
watch that episode
100:25
after this one go find that but uh
100:30
spoiler alert for anybody for good
100:32
mother’s group
100:33
um anybody that’s part of the uh muddied
100:36
waters group on facebook i said if you
100:38
want to bone up for tomorrow’s episode
100:40
listen to this episode um
100:44
because we’re pretty much gonna see if
100:45
you did so
100:47
right because we’re gonna say pretty yes
100:50
i pretty much just took this
100:51
and moved them so thank you thank you
100:54
for
100:55
the boning that you did up
100:59
thank you for boning up so as we uh all
101:03
probably know
101:04
over the weekend uh it was the third
101:06
anniversary of the parkland shooting
101:08
here
101:08
in sunny florida um
101:11
and joe biden announced that because of
101:14
that
101:14
he wanted to
101:18
enact gun control laws to make sure that
101:20
nothing like that
101:21
ever happened again
101:25
um which you know
101:28
a great way to make sure something never
101:30
happens again is to create conditions
101:32
that
101:32
ensure that it happens more often the
101:35
reason that
101:36
this shooting happened in parkland was
101:39
because the murderer the shooter
101:43
that went there knew that he was going
101:45
to a no gun zones you will notice that
101:47
there aren’t a lot of
101:48
there aren’t any mass shootings at gun
101:51
shows
101:51
or pro second amendment events or
101:54
black panther rallies or anywhere that
101:58
has lots of people with guns
102:00
gun shows uh shooting competitions
102:04
um police departments there’s really
102:07
nowhere where there’s a lot of people
102:08
walking around with guns
102:10
do you ever hear or see mass shootings
102:12
because mass shooters
102:14
don’t want to get shot back right away
102:16
at least they want to kill a bunch of
102:17
other people first so they go to these
102:19
fish in a barrel zones
102:21
where they can pick people off uh
102:23
casually and that’s what happened here
102:25
and then the reason it went on as long
102:27
as it did was because there was a school
102:28
resource officer there
102:30
uh but he didn’t really feel much
102:31
compulsion to jump into the fire he
102:33
waited until the the shooting was over
102:35
and he waited for backup to come
102:36
so people died because they weren’t able
102:38
to defend themselves and the guy who did
102:40
have the gun
102:41
stayed away from the gunfire because he
102:42
wanted to live turns out
102:44
um and so what these policies do is
102:47
we’re going to dive into the specifics
102:48
but
102:49
all of these policies make it so that
102:50
millions more americans are put in a
102:52
situation where they are now
102:53
at the mercy of the shooter because
102:55
they’re unable to defend themselves by
102:57
having their own weapon
102:58
they’re at the mercy of the shooter and
103:00
of hoping that the police someone else a
103:02
stranger with a gun
103:03
will show up and decide to risk their
103:05
life uh to save them
103:06
in time for it to actually be effective
103:09
so
103:10
let’s basically joe joe biden said let’s
103:12
honor the parkland
103:13
that those who died in parkland by
103:15
making more parklands happen in the
103:17
future
103:19
right and he really needs to get that uh
103:21
through in the next two years before
103:24
there’s a relatively decent chance that
103:25
republicans take back one of the
103:27
chambers and then the gun control
103:29
becomes very watered down
103:31
um it’s still gonna be there
103:35
it’s still gonna be there it’s just
103:36
gonna be watered down yeah
103:38
right um
103:41
now what he said in his statement
103:45
was that he wanted to focus on three
103:47
things
103:48
requiring background checks on all gun
103:50
sales banning assault weapons and
103:53
high-capacity magazines
103:55
eliminating immunity for gun
103:57
manufacturers who knowingly put weapons
103:59
of war on our streets
104:02
which is come on man come on man
104:06
weapons of war you know a medium game
104:09
hunting rifle a weapon of war
104:12
what weapons of war on our streets we
104:15
america is
104:19
something um he would also forget what
104:22
he was saying
104:25
yeah i know um that’s why i like just
104:27
making up the stuff that he says because
104:29
i don’t even have to really think about
104:30
it it just
104:31
i can trail off um exactly now if you
104:34
compare it to what he said during the
104:36
campaign
104:36
he had eight headline policies most of
104:38
which had sub-policies
104:40
uh that they wanted to include the list
104:42
of legislations are
104:44
adequately fund the background check
104:45
system
104:47
incentivize state extreme risk or red
104:50
flag laws
104:50
red flag yeah
104:54
create an effective program to ensure
104:56
individuals who become prohibited from
104:58
possessing firearms relinquish their
105:00
weapons give
105:02
states incentives to set up gun
105:04
licensing programs
105:06
close other loopholes in the federal
105:07
background check system including
105:09
boyfriend loophole
105:11
the hate crime loophole charleston
105:12
loophole fugitive from justice loophole
105:15
and get weapons of war off our streets
105:17
and ending online sales of guns and ammo
105:20
now everything that he put in his
105:23
abhorrent gun policy
105:27
during the uh election season can be
105:30
categorized
105:31
into three parts it can be categorized
105:35
into requiring background checks
105:38
on all gun sales banning assault weapons
105:40
in high-capacity magazines
105:42
and eliminating immunity for gun
105:44
manufacturers who knowingly put weapons
105:46
of war on our streets
105:49
everything that he says that he wants to
105:51
do
105:53
fits into those three categories yep
105:59
before somebody is like well
106:01
incentivizing state extra
106:03
risk red flag laws all right yeah but
106:06
that
106:06
he’s just going to give funding to
106:08
states in order to do it that’s not
106:10
really
106:11
that’s not really a gun control law
106:12
that’s just him
106:14
saying we’re going to give you money if
106:15
you do this
106:21
go no go ahead same was saying giving
106:25
giving states incentives to set up gun
106:27
licensing programs
106:28
he’s going to be doing this through
106:29
funding he’s going to be giving states
106:31
money to do this
106:33
now and before anybody out there says
106:35
well that won’t work
106:36
remember it was because of ronald reagan
106:39
in the 80s
106:40
giving states money for their highways
106:43
that the drinking age became 21 and up
106:46
across the nation yep yep
106:49
when you tie funding to specific
106:51
policies
106:52
they almost certainly happen because now
106:56
the state legislatures and the governor
106:58
get together and go
106:59
we don’t have to like this policy it’s
107:01
how we get the money
107:02
the money’s tied to it so we just have
107:04
to do it um
107:06
so you know it that works as well as
107:08
anything else
107:09
red flag laws are possibly
107:13
one of the worst things in here because
107:16
let’s be clear this is not just a
107:18
violation of your right to keep and bear
107:20
arms to violation of your right to
107:22
a search and seizure without a warrant
107:25
it
107:25
is a a violation of your right to due
107:28
process
107:29
it allows for any person to anonymously
107:32
say that you are a threat and have a
107:34
weapon and the police will show up and
107:36
take anything you have
107:37
usually first thing in the morning this
107:40
is
107:41
it’s it is the it’s it’s you know it’s
107:44
the
107:44
they’re coming to take our guns it’s
107:46
that it’s they’re coming to take our
107:47
guns
107:48
even if they’re legal even if you’ve
107:50
done everything legal to own them
107:52
because someone anonymously said
107:53
something about you it’s the worst it’s
107:55
the apps it’s a swat law
107:57
it’s it’s a it’s a great way to have
107:58
someone killed if you want to kill
108:00
someone
108:01
is to call the police and say that
108:02
they’re a risk and that they have guns
108:03
that please help please help
108:08
dunk duncan limp
108:11
duncan lump duncan limp yeah he had
108:14
somebody call a red flag on him and he
108:16
was shot in his sleep
108:18
yep he was shot in his sleep um and they
108:20
were arguably
108:24
arguably the one i think is the worst is
108:26
uh the eliminating immunity for gun
108:28
manufacturers
108:29
who knowingly put weapons of war on the
108:31
streets
108:32
because that will lead to
108:37
ford being sued for duis that’ll lead to
108:43
major companies being sued for user
108:46
issues so here’s
108:50
you know libertarians we we recognize
108:53
that people should not be
108:55
protected immunized against being able
108:58
to be sued
108:59
but the way these are worded is what’s
109:01
scary it’s not just saying
109:03
if a gun manufacturer for example if a
109:05
gun manufacturer
109:07
makes something incorrectly so they make
109:10
the safety wrong and they knowingly make
109:12
it wrong
109:12
and they still put it out okay so
109:14
they’ve done something uh uh
109:16
either neglectful or malicious that
109:18
results in harm someone gets shot
109:20
because their safety doesn’t work
109:21
and it was because of an error something
109:23
that they either
109:24
neglected to fix or knew was a problem
109:27
and refused to fix
109:28
it then they should be sued but you’re
109:30
suing them for the fact that someone
109:32
used a product that they made legally
109:36
and like matt said that opens the
109:38
floodgates
109:39
for suing stores for selling you
109:43
alcohol and then you go and and
109:46
you know drunk drive that that that
109:49
opens the gates for all sorts of things
109:50
where you were essentially
109:52
eliminating the concept of putting the
109:54
culpability on the person who actually
109:56
made the bad choice
109:57
as opposed to some also putting
110:00
culpability
110:00
because now the culpability won’t be
110:02
based on who’s responsible it’ll be
110:04
based on who has the most money
110:06
and that’s a terrible terrible way to
110:08
weaponize politics
110:10
against you know certain industries you
110:12
don’t like you can just shut them down
110:13
with lawsuits
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it’s a it’s a terrible terrible terrible
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precedent um
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this so one of the things is is he wants
110:21
to reduce
110:21
high-capacity magazines the parkland
110:25
shooter
110:26
used 10-round magazines he didn’t use
110:29
high-capacity magazines
110:31
or actually they’re called normal combat
110:33
20 rounds and 30 rounds are normal
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capacity
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uh he he did not use the what would be
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considered high capacity he used low
110:40
capacity magazines
110:41
and was effectively able to murder 17
110:44
people in a gun-free zone do you know
110:46
why he was effectively able to murder 17
110:48
people in a gun-free zone
110:50
because it was a gun-free zone
110:53
now we’re not saying everyone at the
110:55
school needs to be armed
110:56
we’re saying that people should be able
110:58
to have the ability to defend themselves
111:01
if they see
111:01
fit another proposal that isn’t
111:03
explicitly mentioned in this
111:05
but it is mentioned in sheila jackson
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lee’s hb 127
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is the so-called mental health dis uh
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well they call it uh protecting against
111:13
people with mental health but it’s
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actually discriminating against people
111:16
that have
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ptsd uh people that have are the victims
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of
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survivors of abuse and rape that are
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dealing with trauma as a result of that
111:25
people that have anxiety and depression
111:26
it also says people with a
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brain disease i have multiple sclerosis
111:31
they might mean me they might mean me as
111:35
well
111:35
so they’re discriminating against people
111:37
and as a result of that discrimination
111:39
people will say well i don’t want to
111:41
lose my ability to own a firearm and
111:43
protect myself
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so i’m just not going to seek treatment
111:46
i can take care of it myself
111:47
so now someone who has a mental health
111:50
problem
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that if left untreated could get bad and
111:54
they’re not getting treatment
111:55
and they still have the gun this is
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geniu this is genius level big brain
111:59
stuff from gun grabbers
112:02
yeah uh steven merritt in the comments
112:05
said can i sue the government for making
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me pay to drive my own property if i get
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in an
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accident no you can’t because of
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something called
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sovereign immunity now that’s an
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immunity i have no problem getting
112:16
let’s talk about getting rid of immunity
112:18
let’s get rid of qualified immunity
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for uh police officers and other agents
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of the state
112:24
let’s get rid of absolute immunity for
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judges
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and prosecutors and politicians and
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let’s get rid of sovereign immunity
112:31
for the governments uh let’s let’s make
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it so they can get sued like we can too
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see how that works
112:42
yeah this what binding is proposing here
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is
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absolutely terrible uh hey what what is
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it it’s uh hb1127
112:52
yes so that that’s that’s the and i
112:55
forget who it’s named after it was named
112:57
after someone who was
112:58
killed um and it’s the sheila jackson
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lee’s bill
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and to be clear its odds of passing are
113:04
are almost
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nil but this is this is the extreme
113:08
thing
113:08
so they introduce something that sounds
113:10
so extreme that anything else sounds
113:12
moderate and reasonable by comparison so
113:14
it’s about shifting the overton window
113:16
towards
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extreme control where you got to get you
113:18
know insurance to even be able to have a
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weapon
113:20
and if you have one single round of
113:22
ammunition you can go to jail for
113:24
decades you know that that’s it’s you
113:27
you create that outrage with this thing
113:29
and then
113:29
and then biden’s proposal looks you know
113:31
moderate and common sense in in
113:33
comparison
113:35
so you had the sheila jackson lee bill
113:37
that came out and everybody was
113:38
terrified by it they were like oh my god
113:40
they’re trying to take our guns we’re
113:41
gonna have to pay
113:42
for uh a license on every gun that we’ve
113:45
owned
113:45
ever in our lifetimes and if we don’t
113:48
we’re gonna have to pay x amount per
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year
113:50
and blah blah blah and now biden comes
113:53
out with
113:53
oh this is all we want to do or these
113:55
three things you know we just want to
113:56
uh require background checks on all gun
113:58
sales banning assault weapons and high
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capacity magazines and eliminating
114:02
immunity for gun manufacturers who
114:03
knowingly put weapons of war on our
114:04
streets
114:06
now
114:08
there was something that wasn’t in
114:09
sheila jackson’s build that’s in this
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one
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he wants to be able to sue gun
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manufacturers she didn’t put that in
114:18
there
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and those lawsuits had that not been in
114:24
there
114:25
yeah the nra would have supported this
114:28
as long as they said they wouldn’t pass
114:30
the other one
114:32
which is what democrats want you’ll
114:34
notice the way that they’re running this
114:36
is we’re gonna fight the nra the nra is
114:38
one of their bad cop good cop bad cop
114:40
routine people too
114:41
the nra every single gun law on the
114:43
federal level that exists right now
114:45
every single gun restriction
114:47
was either written by the nra
114:51
including the worst one of them all the
114:52
nfa the original major
114:54
federal uh firearms the national
114:57
firearms act
114:58
was literally written by the nra don’t
115:00
forget that
115:02
you can thank the nra for the fact that
115:03
you can’t legally own a machine gun
115:06
uh so that they did that or they have
115:09
supported or been neutral to it so there
115:12
isn’t a single
115:13
existing currently existing gun control
115:17
law or or executive order
115:20
currently on the books that is not at
115:22
least
115:23
supported by the nra joe biden
115:26
introduces this
115:27
in order to be able to play the whole
115:30
good cop bad
115:31
cop routine like matt said if he left
115:33
that part out
115:35
the nra would have said well you know
115:38
we’re we’re good with background checks
115:39
we want to make sure that
115:40
criminals don’t have weapons we’re fine
115:43
with
115:44
the second amendment as long as you go
115:45
through the legal process now of course
115:47
the legal process is
115:49
the right of the people shall not be
115:50
infringed it doesn’t say
115:52
the people who went through the legal
115:53
process it didn’t even say the citizens
115:55
it said the people anyone under the
115:58
presumed jurisdiction of the u.s federal
116:00
government
116:00
should not have their right to be be
116:02
infringed by
116:04
anyone not just the federal government
116:08
shall not be infringed by anyone
116:13
that is the what the legal process is
116:15
supposed to be but no the nra would have
116:17
absolutely supported it
116:18
that was added in order to create this
116:20
this false sense of uh
116:22
this false sense of of of of uh
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opposition
116:27
which for anybody who is isn’t following
116:29
us on instagram or twitter
116:32
or facebook um facebook
116:35
fact checked the second amendment
116:38
the second amendment yeah the second
116:41
amendment today
116:42
and said that it was uh false
116:46
yeah there was there was a paper thing
116:50
there was a there was a page from the
116:51
constitution center that just has the
116:54
second amendment
116:55
and it says this has been fact checked
116:56
as false
116:58
the actual literal text of the second
117:00
amendment
117:11
i don’t even know where to go with that
117:13
and
117:14
right like and their reasoning behind
117:16
like if you looked at the fact check
117:17
on why they rated it false one of them
117:20
was joe biden won the election
117:23
nowhere in there did we say that he
117:25
didn’t
117:27
um another one was george washington
117:29
never said this which that’s true
117:31
george washington never said that
117:36
we didn’t say he did
117:39
but george washington never said it so
117:41
that part’s you know
117:42
i rate that partly false
117:47
but one of them was just literally the
117:49
writing of the of the second amendment
117:51
there were like two different ones
117:53
and one had the text of george
117:54
washington that quote that is not from
117:56
george washington but the other one
117:58
was just the second amendment it was
118:01
just
118:02
like that’s that should have been fact
118:04
checked as
118:05
very true because that’s just that’s it
118:07
right there it’s all
118:08
that’s what it says whether you like it
118:10
or not that’s what the bill says that’s
118:12
what the
118:12
what the what the amendment says um now
118:14
thankfully
118:15
uh there’s a good chance that this will
118:17
be negotiated down
118:18
uh joe biden will remove they’ll remove
118:22
the the uh uh the the part about uh
118:26
and by the way when he’s saying ending
118:28
immunity for lawsuits
118:29
uh that also means from the federal
118:32
government so that’s lawsuits meaning
118:33
weaponized civil
118:35
asset forfeiture the using the civil
118:37
process to
118:38
to you know to to further damage
118:40
businesses
118:41
because the civil process uh the the
118:44
uh bar for the civil process is much
118:47
higher much
118:48
lower than the criminal process so it’s
118:50
just a way of weaponizing the state even
118:51
further against
118:52
specifically against gun manufacturers
118:54
uh so that’ll get dropped and then the
118:56
nra will probably say
118:58
yeah okay or they’ll just stop talking
119:02
about it they’ll start talking about how
119:03
the radical left and the antifa are
119:05
attacking our brave
119:06
police officers and then they’ll ignore
119:08
you know the actual
119:10
threat to our freedom
119:14
right
119:17
thankful so everybody go visit gun
119:18
owners of america thankfully yes
119:20
everybody go visit gun owners of america
119:23
and if you’re an nra member uh switch to
119:26
the goa because they are actually
119:29
fighting for your rights
119:31
as opposed to negotiating them away
119:34
yeah nra is negotiating rights away
119:40
why is everybody spelling your
119:44
everybody spelling mixtape is mixtape
119:47
did you misspell it somewhere at some
119:49
point
119:52
if i did i’m just finding out now
119:55
okay maybe people don’t know how to
119:57
spell mixtape
119:59
yeah it’s mixed tape say it got a e
120:03
it’s got a e but uh unless i may have
120:07
spelled it
120:08
smelled it wrong but so we ended on a
120:10
high note eminem is on it
120:12
eminem is on it so that next tape does
120:15
eminem is
120:16
yeah eminem is is frequently is is uh
120:19
is highly featured in it uh so we ended
120:22
on a high note joe biden’s coming to
120:23
take your guns
120:24
um and uh so that’s good
120:28
thankfully um downer episode might as
120:30
well
120:31
it was a downer well we had rachel we
120:32
started on a high with rachel
120:34
and then we did and then we just just
120:38
then cuomo murdered people and lied
120:40
about it and it just won
120:46
it just went downhill uh so
120:50
folks the good news is
120:57
oh the good news is that tomorrow
121:02
wednesday uh uh wednesday gosh wednesday
121:06
the 17th gosh we’re already
121:08
almost one six of the way through this
121:10
year
121:12
and that that’s some good news huh um
121:15
tomorrow i have uh on my fellow
121:18
americans on my show
121:20
i have travis wentworth who is a cyber
121:23
security and cryptocurrency expert
121:26
and so we’re going to be diving into uh
121:28
security issues related to
121:29
cryptocurrency
121:30
some of the limitations on crypto and uh
121:33
and the innovations that are going to
121:35
be able to fix those issues and how you
121:37
know crypto and the blockchain will
121:39
eventually be
121:40
the way that we do everything um so
121:42
that’s gonna be a really cool episode
121:43
especially in the in the midst of
121:45
dogecoin apparently becoming
121:49
up thing and i i i i’m still convinced
121:53
it’s a meme
121:54
i’m gonna buy a hundred bucks worth
121:56
because it there if it ends up becoming
121:58
the
121:58
standard reserve currency for the entire
122:00
world i want to at least have some
122:02
um but uh yeah i i uh i’m really looking
122:05
forward to having that episode and then
122:07
uh and then on this weekend i will be
122:12
in the libertarian party of tennessee
122:13
convention in lebanon tennessee go check
122:15
that out
122:16
if you go to lptn.org you can find out
122:19
more
122:20
and then we will be right back here next
122:22
week uh
122:23
same money place same money time for
122:26
another brand spanking new episode
122:28
of the what’s actually live a live
122:30
spanking
122:31
episode of the
122:34
of the muddy waters of freedom remote
122:36
right and i parse through the week’s
122:37
events
122:38
make this sweet little summer
122:41
it’s what is it is it at least spring
122:44
yet or is no it’s still winter
122:46
no it’s still winter oh it’s like not
122:48
until
122:49
passover fun fact
122:54
fun fact so my birthday is march 26th
122:58
and passover starts the 27th
123:04
passover is on my anniversary wins
123:07
yeah it’s funny
123:13
um passover starts on the 27th and it
123:16
ends the day before sarah’s birthday
123:18
superfan sarah anderegg’s birthday
123:21
so it’s just like it starts with my
123:23
birthday passover sarah’s birthday
123:31
i was gonna say between the birthdays
123:33
and that you’re gonna you’re gonna
123:35
you may have to give me that joe soloski
123:37
shirt because it’s gonna
123:39
it’s gonna look like uh you’re gonna be
123:40
pretty stuffed into it so
123:42
yeah i know folks thanks so much again
123:45
next week we have joel getz
123:49
yes joel goetz is running for he’s
123:52
running for mayor
123:54
of somewhere in pennsylvania
123:58
yeah hold on uh east stroudsburg
124:02
east stroudsburg pennsylvania pa
124:07
and he’s a cool guy i got to hang out
124:08
with him quite a bit when i was up in
124:10
pennsylvania last year
124:11
uh helping with the petitioning to to
124:14
get all
124:14
libertarians on the on the ballot in
124:16
pennsylvania and uh so that’ll be a
124:18
really
124:19
a really good uh really good episode and
124:22
yes
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if you if you guys donate a thousand
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by next tuesday i will get hit with a
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124:32
that’s in the comments
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124:40
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124:42
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the slamming salmon will taste
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[Music]
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to the face right to the old kisser
124:52
slamming salmon’s like
124:54
yeah and we’ll we’ll record it in
124:55
slow-mo too so there’ll be a video of
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the
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so it’s up to you it’s low
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i mean that’s only like 20 from each of
125:04
you
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no actually a little bit less it’s like
125:08
fifteen bucks for each of you no it’s
125:10
like ten bucks from each of you yeah i
125:11
was gonna say that
125:12
yeah it’s like ten bucks it’s nothing
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it’s nothing
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it is nothing
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so matt if people were trying to find us
125:24
on the internet is that even possible
125:27
and if so how
125:30
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we’re 990 dollars away from the old
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126:46
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126:50
that’s to the anchor
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go right there
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i just put it in the thing so you guys
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i’m going back and then we can just go
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i’m telling you you guys can can raise a
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you
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we’re gonna get it i’m gonna think
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i’m going to make the thing myself i’m
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going to make the hot dog
127:16
from salmon and i’ll form it and from it
127:19
you’re going to make it yourself from
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salmon i’m going to actually make a
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salmon hot dog
127:24
from actual salmon and form it into a
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cylindrical
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thing that i will then cook and we will
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circle back
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catches
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the asmr i think i think
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i think part i think that i’ll probably
127:59
be hitting myself but
128:01
maybe i can get my wife to hit me with
128:03
it
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because there’s not really anyone else
128:05
here we might be able to get on matt x
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to come up for it
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oh
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my eggs would definitely no i’m up for
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it no promises
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no no promises but we might be able to
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get matt higgs
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to hit me in the face with a hot dog
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live on tv so a thousand
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for another ten dollars
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i am excited we know
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i believe in y’all it’s gonna happen
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uh i will see you here uh wednesday
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tomorrow
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uh at eight pm eastern we will be doing
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our show
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and then we’ll see you hopefully in
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tennessee if you can join us in
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tennessee in lebanon tennessee
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uh and then we’ll see you right back
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here uh for tuesday
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it’s lebanon
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lebanon what am i saying lebanon
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oh it’s lebanon
129:17
if you’re from there it’s lebanon
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it’s not lebanon okay all right lebanon
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oh it’s lebanon
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join us in lebanon you know what i can’t
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even be upset because
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i was in worcester mass spelled
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wartkester
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but you know worcester sure well yeah
129:34
it’s where worcestershire sauce comes
129:36
from
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folks thanks so much for tuning in again
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we will see you tomorrow
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and next week and where we’re going
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we don’t need roads
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good evening everyone thank you for
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joining us
129:55
um i often know what i’m going to circle
129:56
back i hate to disappoint conservative
129:58
twitter but i am going to circle back
130:00
on a number of things as we often do
130:01
directly i’ll circle back
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circle back i hate to disappoint you
130:05
circle back circle back that’s an
130:07
excellent question circle back
130:09
circle back i need to disappoint you but
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we will venture to a circle
130:15
this is such a good question i have not
130:17
had the opportunity to dig into that
130:18
i’ll circle back it was a massive dump
130:20
to this day everyone’s trying to figure
130:21
out where did it come from i’m not aware
130:23
of anything but um
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i will have to circle back on that one
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but uh
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we’ll circle back go back i will have to
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circle back with you
130:44
go back let me give you a very specific
130:46
example
130:48
circle back i hate to disappoint you
130:50
circle back
130:51
circle back that’s an excellent question
130:53
circle back
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this president knew back in january why
131:00
didn’t he tell us why did he warn him a
131:01
number of ways to combat misinformation
131:03
one of them is
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circle back you told us that trump was
131:06
invincible but hillary was in a prison
131:07
right i don’t really have any
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predictions for you on that
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circle
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um let me see if i can get more detail
131:14
for you on that circle
131:16
i signed something saying that if i’m
131:17
wrong i can go to presents we’ll try to
131:19
get to as many questions as possible
131:22
i don’t have anything more for you and
131:25
that communication has been lacking
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well as as you know let me give you a
131:30
very specific example
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i’ll circle back
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circle circle back that’s an excellent
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question circle back
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circle back i hate to disappoint you but
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we will venture to circle


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