Episode 179 – Biden’s Executive Orders Flote By and Inciting Erections with Kingsley Edwards

The Muddied Waters of Freedom with Jason Lyon and Spike Cohen


Trump incited Schumer’s erection, Spike falls victim to fact checking on a personal level, AOC is afraid of her colleagues across the aisle, and wants to open programming camps. Kingsley Edwards from http://Flote.app joins us to discuss his platform and all that is happening with it since the new year, and we delve into Biden’s executive orders.

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we embarked on
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a mission to make america great again
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for all americans as i conclude my term
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as the 45th
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president of the united states we did
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what we came here
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to do well it’s about please
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don’t lose that respect the world
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respects us again
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please don’t lose that respect make
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america great again
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free free free respect three three three
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three three free respect
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please don’t lose that respect the movie
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we started
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i had not spent my career as a
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politician and perhaps
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most importantly of all thousands of
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people came out with their families i
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knew that they did not just come out for
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me it deeply moved me
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they came out to show me their support
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had love for me
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i did not seek the easiest course i did
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not
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we did what we came here to do
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please don’t lose that respect the world
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respects us again
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please don’t lose that respect make
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america great again free free free with
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respect
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quickly three three three respect please
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don’t lose back respect the movement we
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started is just beginning
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so i left behind my former life and
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stepped into a very difficult arena
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now as i leave the white house we must
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never forsake our belief
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in america i fought for you i support
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your family i vote for
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our country above all i fought for
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america
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strong proud and free we extend our best
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wishes
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and we also want them to
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a very important word please
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don’t lose that respect the world
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respects us again
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please don’t lose that respect make
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america great again
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breathe
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please don’t lose back respect the
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movement we started is
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just beginning
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so
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good morning good afternoon or good
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evening and
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welcome to the vanguard spike
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of the yengala yang twins cohen i am
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matt
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wright and together we are traversing
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the muddy waters of
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freedom i don’t even get that one
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yingala i learned it from um
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i learned that word from uh hunters and
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uh
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it means young boy oh
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in yiddish okay well hey folks thanks
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again for tuning in to this episode
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graphics this this is
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completely different for how we usually
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they’re seeing the graphics you guys
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can’t okay i know i feel like i’m
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missing out on something
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yeah no see usually you can but
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did you just say that they can use the
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green one but we don’t have a graphic up
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uh yeah no no no they can they can they
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can see it
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unless they’re listening to the podcast
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and they definitely cannot see it
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yes that’s accurate and god bless
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all of you people who continue to use
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the podcasting
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we definitely appreciate it there’s a
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cat there’s a cat now we have a cat
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this is gonna be one of those shows
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that’s good now that’s the official cat
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of muddy waters um
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now we’re going to start uh well do you
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want to
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let’s introduce king first and then
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we’ll and then we’ll go to uh
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to the rapid-fire segment kingsley we
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have kingsley edwards who is
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uh one of the uh uh one of the half of
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the king
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kingsley and aaron edwards dynasty uh
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that are creating the
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uh flow app tell us about yourself and
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tell us about float man
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yeah so thanks for having me on here big
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fans of you guys and you guys were like
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pretty early flow users so i appreciate
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all the support and uh
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and i think now i’ve sent you some btc’s
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super chats on there
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for a while now since yesterday it was
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even lower than uh lower than 10
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000 so those are you know probably
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tripled or
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in value or more they have yeah so
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you’re welcome
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but uh not those yeah but uh but yeah
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i’m uh you know
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uh entrepreneur been in the crypto space
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since 2013.
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uh float is like my let’s see like third
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company um in in tech and i’ve always
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been focused on on crypto
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um we also run my wife and i we we run
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the las vegas bitcoin meetup since 2014
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we launched float in uh july 2019
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so yeah excited to be here like you know
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good times for us because
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of what’s happening in crypto obviously
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with flo uh vote for people that don’t
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know
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we’re a social network we support free
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speech i know how controversial
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and um and we also we have crypto
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integrated so what that means is that
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basically we’re connecting you know
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people online with their social
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identities
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and then we but you can remain you know
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anonymous on on float
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but as far as the the payments uh
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channels they’re they’re peer-to-peer so
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what i mean by that is you know i think
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aaron she just actually sent you guys
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another 10 bucks in btc
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as a super chat on the live stream on
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float and you get 100 of that where
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youtube takes 30
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we also have like a patreon model where
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you can post uh exclusive contents
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for members that subscribe to you for
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monthly fee uh that you choose
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and we got all the other social media
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type stuff right now so
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this year it’s uh yeah this year’s gonna
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be big we went from a
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team of like three people when we
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launched and now we have over 15 and
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we’re still growing
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so lots that is awesome lots on the road
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yeah
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that is awesome so and also to let you
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know
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the quality of the live video so if you
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want to watch this live go to float dot
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slash live or if you’re on float just go
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to muddy waters media and you’ll see
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that we’re live there’s like a icon for
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to watch our live video and the quality
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of the stream
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on float is so much better
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than on uh because it’s just a straight
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rtmp feed
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so it’s much better than on youtube it’s
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way better than on facebook
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uh just the both the video and audio
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quality
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is at like a hundred times better than
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facebook and
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probably ten times better than on
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youtube so
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uh just definitely a better experience
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all the way around so
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thanks for joining us we we we’re happy
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to have you on yeah
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thanks for having me um yeah i mean just
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as far as the the feed is concerned
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that they’re going live you know like
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yeah right now we don’t we don’t
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compress anything so
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um which which can be a problem we’re
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gonna add actually options so that
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people can compress it if they have you
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know
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worse internet internet speeds but um
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but right now yeah it works
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it works pretty well when you do have
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great internet
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yeah yeah it is from the very first live
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stream that we did
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on float which that god i don’t even
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remember when that was that
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that means that may have been the one
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that we did exclusively on float
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yeah it’s been like probably a year it’s
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been well over a year
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because we’ve been i’ve been uh it
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started before i i ran for the
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nomination for vice president and that
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was over a year ago now
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it was so we had done we had done the uh
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democratic debate
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and we pulled off youtube we got pulled
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off youtube and facebook for
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stealing the democratic debate and so we
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started doing them exclusively we
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started doing it on float yeah
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yeah we so we were doing exclusive live
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streams on float
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that was the last summer that was two
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summers ago
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oh wow yeah yeah yeah i think it was
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like september yeah yeah it’s like
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september of 19
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that we started doing live streams on
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float and then we figured out how to
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uh add it to the restream so that way we
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could do all of them
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and float is by far the best experience
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that anybody can possibly get
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easily and you won’t get knocked off or
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fact checked and we could talk more
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about that later
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because i’m still bitter um and uh
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it’s just it’s just a better experience
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all the way around go check out float
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it’s on in it’s on the google play store
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it’s on the
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apple so we actually we took ourselves
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off
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yeah we actually took ourselves off of
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uh for uh
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the i i was it apple store itunes
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app store oh okay and uh because
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because right now we’d have to like our
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our ios app was actually the worst
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performing with us because we just
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haven’t been able to put a lot of
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time and resources into it so we’ve seen
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what happened with parlor and we know
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all what’s kind of coming down
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down the you know down the lane um with
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as far as big tech censorship and all
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this craziness
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um we just decided hey you know we’re
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not we’re just gonna we’re just gonna
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try to inform our ios users to
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make a shortcut onto their home screen
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from their browser
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which you know it’s basically still one
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click and it just opens your browser
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it’s the same thing yeah
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yeah yeah okay versus yeah doing this
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because or else we’re gonna spend you
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know
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like a hundred thousand dollars on the
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map that they’re just gonna kick off
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anyway
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that they’re gonna kick off because you
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allow free speech okay so they’re not on
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the
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apple whatever but they are on uh google
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play and uh and you can and like he said
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you can just create a shortcut to the
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browser and uh
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it’s the same interface i did that the
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day that they said something i think
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they posted something on instagram
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saying this is how you do it and i just
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immediately went and did it and it works
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even it works better than the app did
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yeah
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yeah absolutely our app was definitely
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lacking then yeah so yeah so
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it’s a much better experience and then
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again then we’re not gonna have to go
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through all this drama there’s
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so many apple makes you uh jump over so
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many hoops just to get
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your your app listed uh on their store
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anyway
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so and plus and plus we integrate crypto
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as well so we’re just you know there
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we would just be once you know once we
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were we’re continuing to grow and once
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we got to a certain number they would
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they’re gonna kick you off
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yeah they’re they’re gonna have a major
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problem with you having
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a free platform yeah um so yeah i know
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it’s really cool so if you guys you guys
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that have all that
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bitcoin you’ve been hodling and you’re
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looking for something to
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to invest it in we are that fertile
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soil for your
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bitcoin um so um
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king we somebody asked a question they
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they want to know what web hosting
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service float uses and
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like i i assume what he’s saying is how
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how and how much dangerous it’s being
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taken down because like
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that’s what happened with parlor yeah so
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so i will say i don’t like to
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uh say who it is directly at but we are
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actually moving off of because of what
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parlor
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and our current uh hosting provider they
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did release a public statement saying
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that they agree with it so
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we’re actually moving our service over
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uh right now we’re in a transition phase
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to get it over to uh to a much uh better
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and reliable company
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that i i’ve know i know one of the
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owners actually for over 10 years he’s a
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ron paul guy
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he’s got servers all over the u.s and uh
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and we are going to uh we’re going to be
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moving in that direction
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uh this this month well probably you
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know we’ll probably finish it
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next month but yeah that’s you know
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something we’re basically we
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you know once that happened we all knew
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this was coming down the line it’s just
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man they’re
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going so fast it’s hard to keep up right
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so um
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so we basically you know we’ve shifted
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that kind of on our agenda to to figure
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out you know where we’re at risk
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and which providers we’re on right now
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if they’ve released any statements as
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far as you know
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free speech is bad okay and uh
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and then you know if anybody has
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released anything bad like that or if
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they have any history of censorship
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uh which we already you know we already
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know uh then we’re you know we’re going
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back to
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to other people or finding other else
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resources in companies
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that believe in free speech and even
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coming up with you know backup names on
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top of that just in case
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because man it’s like a battleground out
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there what’s going on people
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it’s uh yeah no it’s it’s it’s become a
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nightmare and and and the problem is
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like even if you create your own out uh
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your own
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uh platform you know you’re now looking
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or you thankfully you found it you now
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have
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are having to transition because you’re
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not on aws but
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you’re on another host that may decide
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they don’t like free speech either
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and so you got to be on one so you got
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to make sure that even your hosting
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uh is uh is is you know in favor of
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freedom of speech and your
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your domain registrar and everything
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else it’s just crazy
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you also have to worry that amazon could
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just buy that company at any moment
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yeah yeah it’s yeah it’s like just you
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know keeping your finger on the pulse
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um but you know i i keep saying this now
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in a bunch of different podcasts but
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it’s like yeah right now is the time
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where
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there’s basically people are like
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drawing a line in the sand and it’s like
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do you agree with
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basic human rights and freedom of speech
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and or do you not
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and so i you know i think it’s kind of
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good though in a way we’re kind of
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ripping off the band-aid
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and we’re shedding some light on uh the
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commies i guess that have been uh hiding
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under
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their their corporate you know shield
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for so long and
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um and honestly i want to do business
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with good people and we should all want
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to do good
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uh give you know do business exactly
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so i’d rather i’d rather know it’s just
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you know kind of the same thing with
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like the whole civil rights thing
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uh i i want to know if someone’s a
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racist you know whatever
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shop owner or whatever um so i i just
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don’t understand this whole thing with
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like government trying to hide that type
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of stuff
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but uh because i don’t you know i don’t
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want to get i don’t give my money to
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those people
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so so now it’s kind of like that’s
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happening now in tech
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and uh honestly like i appreciate it and
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it’s actually kind of
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forcing us to make decisions now that we
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would have just delayed you know till
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later we were actually on aws
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uh in the beginning and then we we uh
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transitioned over
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well first because we knew that we
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didn’t want to rely on big tech
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but also because uh we we’d i just no
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reason why we were
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on there anyways because i had ad credit
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or not ad credits but server credits
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from boost vc which is the startup
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accelerator we went through
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so i used those up so i thank you amazon
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and then we we moved over
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now we have to move again unfortunately
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but you know so be it
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it’ll be better actually it’s going to
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be much better we’ll have much more
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service and yeah that’s good that’s good
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that you
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are that you’re staying ahead of the
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curve on that and i have
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speaking of being ahead on the cur i
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have no segue for this
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this is now we’re not going to go into
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19:32
yeah so uh newly minted senate majority
19:36
leader chuck schumer
19:38
was giving a talk on the senate floor
19:40
about the impeachment trial that was
19:42
starting
19:43
i think that started today yeah yeah
19:45
we’re going to say that
19:47
the impending impeachment trial of trump
19:48
and um he said that senators were going
19:50
to have to
19:52
the senate will conduct a trial of the
19:55
impeachment of donald trump
19:57
it will be a full trial it will be a
19:59
fair trial
20:01
but make no mistake there will be a
20:04
trial and when that trial ends
20:06
senators will have to decide if they
20:08
believe
20:09
donald john donald john trump incited
20:12
the erection
20:14
insurrection against the united states
20:19
i think the thing i hate the most about
20:22
donald
20:22
trump is
20:25
the the erection the
20:28
the fact that he incited chuck schumer’s
20:32
erection
20:34
because the mental image of chuck
20:35
schumer
20:37
walking around at half-mast
20:41
i was didn’t
20:44
think specifically of him he was the one
20:47
that said it like that was a
20:48
no i know yeah you guys should uh
20:51
should get uh blue chew to be a sponsor
20:58
after this we probably can yeah
21:04
so that happened and
21:08
so now we’re gonna see this impeachment
21:10
and i
21:12
personally think that they’re not going
21:14
to convict trump
21:15
because a you need a two-thirds majority
21:17
to do it
21:18
and b the best thing that joe biden has
21:22
going for him is that he’ll probably be
21:23
running against donald trump in 2024
21:26
and if you take that off the table he
21:29
can’t just run on not being trump
21:31
right so i don’t i don’t see that
21:33
changing
21:35
so at the beginning of the at the senate
21:37
uh hearing today
21:39
uh rand paul called for a vote on who
21:42
thought that that the trial was
21:44
constitutional
21:46
and the final count was 55 to 45.
21:49
45 republicans voted no this is not
21:51
constitutional
21:52
you need 17 to switch you’ve got five
21:54
that already did
21:56
so you would need 12 more so instead
21:59
of uh going for a full impeachment on
22:01
him they’re trying to
22:02
talk people into centering him
22:06
which does that that means nothing it
22:09
means nothing it’s just they want to say
22:11
he was the first
22:12
to have this happen
22:15
it’s a strongly worded letter it’s
22:17
alright
22:19
donald trump this just go ahead no go
22:22
ahead oh sorry i was just going to say
22:23
it was just so funny during that day
22:24
when this erection happened and uh and i
22:28
was just i was like i’m too busy like
22:29
i’m out
22:30
i i you know like i got we’re building
22:33
flow we’re doing a lot of things we got
22:34
floatfest uh coming up in a couple
22:35
months too
22:36
and um and i was just like i was on
22:39
calls all day and i was getting updates
22:41
from everybody that’s something on
22:42
you know on on the calls is telling me
22:44
you know what’s going on and bob and
22:45
they’re like oh
22:46
now there’s a guy on the senate floor
22:48
with a you know a ox head or something
22:50
like that and i was like yes
22:51
yep what i was like it’s probably best
22:53
that i just don’t pay attention to this
22:54
but
22:55
crazy yeah no it was go ahead
23:00
so i i’ve i just started a new job a
23:02
couple of weeks ago like three weeks ago
23:04
and um i was it was like my first is my
23:07
second day
23:08
there and my phone just started buzzing
23:10
non-stop with people messaging me
23:13
and i’m like i’m not supposed to look at
23:15
my phone and
23:17
then eventually i was like i gotta see
23:19
what’s happening and people were like
23:20
there’s an erection happening in
23:21
washington dc
23:23
and i was and i was i was like well
23:27
i know that i’m not like at my new job
23:29
but i’m also going to watch this
23:32
yeah direction on tv you got to tune in
23:35
right you gotta watch yeah well
23:36
especially on
23:36
yeah when it’s on all the the channels i
23:39
i was
23:40
originally going to take the day off
23:42
until
23:43
later that day i was gonna recap what
23:46
happened with the
23:47
with the the uh certification that was
23:50
happening in congress
23:51
and then when i heard about the erection
23:53
i realized that you know
23:55
that i was gonna have to follow that
23:56
because people my
23:58
my inbox was blowing up uh about
24:01
the erection and uh and so i i had i had
24:04
to make my official
24:05
uh response to it uh so um speaking of
24:10
my official
24:13
response i i’m not i’m terrible for
24:16
segways today what
24:18
so
24:22
so uh libertarian vice presidential
24:24
nominee
24:25
spike cohen uh made a statement
24:28
on i believe facebook um and
24:32
he ended up getting a well he posted
24:35
this on facebook
24:36
and he ends up getting a false rating
24:39
from politifact
24:40
for saying uh john brennan called
24:43
libertarians terrorists
24:45
yeah so i i wrote a silver lining to the
24:47
biden administration labeling
24:48
libertarians terrorists
24:50
is that the cia will probably start
24:52
giving us money and weapons now
24:54
and the it’s a good one
24:57
which is i mean it’s accurate if we are
24:59
labeled a terror group
25:01
if passed is prologue we’re probably
25:03
going to get some really sweet equipment
25:05
and like those toyota
25:06
hilux uh uh uh pickup trucks and stuff
25:10
like it was gonna be a whole thing
25:11
and so politifact was not happy at all
25:14
uh they actually contacted me and asked
25:17
if i had proof of my joke
25:20
being true and i said
25:23
no because it’s a joke and they said
25:26
okay but what evidence do you have of
25:28
your joke and i said i
25:30
the evidence is that i said it it’s a
25:32
joke and uh and so
25:34
in response i said you know this was a
25:36
joke i find it hilarious that you’re
25:37
fact checking it
25:38
so um let me know when the fact check
25:41
comes out so i can make fun of that too
25:43
and um and so it did come out but they i
25:46
feel like i’m
25:47
at least somewhat vindicated because
25:48
they only rated it partially false
25:51
because the cia the cia does give money
25:54
and weapons to terrorists
25:56
so that’s only impartial their statement
25:58
no that’s mine
26:00
and i i’m not sure why it was only
26:03
partial
26:04
we’re gonna get we’re gonna get fact
26:06
checked on this episode
26:07
i mean so for anybody who doesn’t know
26:10
where the where this came
26:11
this was in response to the brennan
26:12
quote right yes
26:14
right and to which i’m certain almost
26:16
everybody who watches the show has
26:18
seen or heard this quote already but
26:21
we’re going to read it anyway
26:22
um john brennan said i know looking
26:25
forward that the members of the biden
26:27
team who have been nominated or have
26:28
been appointed
26:30
are now moving in laser-like fashion to
26:32
try to uncover as much as they can
26:35
about what looks very similar to
26:37
insurgency movements
26:38
that we’ve seen overseas these would be
26:41
the people that they funded and given
26:43
weapons to
26:44
yes correct where they germinate in
26:46
different parts of a country
26:47
and they gain strength and it brings
26:50
together an unholy alliance
26:52
frequently of religious extremists
26:55
authoritarians
26:56
fascists biggest bigots racists
26:59
nativists even libertarians
27:02
because when you think of
27:06
freedom fighters or just
27:10
violent terror groups violent terror
27:12
yeah violent terror groups
27:14
you think of the non-aggression
27:16
principle following
27:18
libertarians what’s interesting is his
27:21
uh description here uh an unholy
27:23
alliance of
27:24
religious extremists authoritarians
27:27
fascists bigots racists nativists
27:29
even libertarians that’s congress he
27:32
just described congress
27:35
so i guess they’re well we already know
27:38
they get money from the federal
27:39
government so it would make sense so
27:41
i’m still holding out hope that we’re
27:43
gonna start getting
27:44
some weapons um unfortunately they’ll
27:46
probably like tell
27:48
the radicals that they’re to use it to
27:51
fight against the pragues
27:52
and then they’ll tell the prags to fight
27:53
against the radicals so we’ll probably
27:55
have to like agree to like cross our
27:56
fingers and agree to it or whatever but
27:59
um yeah so king king have you guys ever
28:02
been uh
28:02
fact checked on on any of the major
28:04
social media platforms
28:07
um yes i can’t think of any offhand
28:10
but yeah i mean i feel like it happens
28:12
that you know your grandmother
28:14
nowadays um it’s crazy and you know
28:17
i think aaron just got her like oh what
28:19
was that she got
28:20
she got like a i think maybe a 24-hour
28:22
ban or something like that some some
28:24
sort of
28:24
uh some sort of censorship on facebook
28:27
like
28:27
yesterday and then she posted about it
28:30
somehow and
28:30
about the band and then they got her
28:32
they dinged her for that too
28:34
so there’s a lot of no talking about
28:37
yours punishment
28:38
yeah there’s a lot of smart uh people
28:41
and big tech just building the best ai
28:43
that seems to be doing a great job and
28:45
so i just think we just
28:46
need to you know trust the plan and move
28:48
forward you know what i’m saying
28:49
just trust the plan slow the spread 14
28:52
days to slow the spread
28:55
it’s like q anon for big tech just yeah
28:58
just trust the plan
29:00
yes where we get censored one we get
29:02
censored
29:03
all right but uh but yeah i mean there’s
29:05
been there’s been times where
29:07
i’ve seen with my own eyes people
29:08
posting floats
29:10
uh the domain on uh youtube comments and
29:13
not getting taken down in real time
29:15
also in facebook messenger and not being
29:17
grayed out and like it you know can’t
29:19
send or won’t send or whatever
29:21
multiple people uh we definitely
29:24
witnessed some sort of shadow banning on
29:26
our on our float pages
29:28
uh first for certain things on facebook
29:31
i’m you know i’m assuming that we’re we
29:32
we just used
29:33
basically the big tech platforms to to
29:35
get our message out and try to
29:36
recruit some more people to pull people
29:37
in yeah right right yeah yeah um
29:40
but uh but yeah i mean you know i’m
29:43
surprised that you well what
29:45
matt i mean you’re are you do you did
29:47
you have your your normal account
29:48
reinstated now or are you saying no
29:50
no yeah my my normal account so my
29:53
normal account
29:54
uh i lost that back in
29:57
august or september i think i don’t
29:58
remember was it that long i thought it
30:00
was like october like november what was
30:02
it that long it might have been that
30:03
long ago
30:04
it was definitely before the election
30:06
that i lost it oh wow
30:08
okay yeah um i definitely lost it before
30:10
the election
30:11
um and then i definitely don’t if you’re
30:15
if anybody from facebook is watching i
30:16
don’t have another one
30:18
yeah sorry i don’t have another one but
30:21
if
30:22
i did you learned your lesson you
30:23
learned your lesson you’re not welcome
30:24
there you never came back
30:25
yeah right never came back and if i did
30:27
come back and uh i was using the
30:29
facebook app this weekend
30:31
i still don’t have access yeah
30:34
because yeah when they logged everybody
30:36
out and then some people still couldn’t
30:37
get in i am one of the people who can’t
30:39
get in
30:40
to or i would be one of the people who
30:43
if you had an account which you
30:44
absolutely do not
30:46
right which i do not listen i’m glad
30:49
that they removed you from facebook
30:50
because
30:51
i was sick and tired of seeing such
30:54
malicious propaganda that you were
30:56
spreading like pictures
30:58
of your food that your
31:01
girlfriend cooked for you and
31:06
cava and sarah’s
31:09
boys and other
31:13
similar agit prop and terrorism right
31:17
the super sappy look how great my
31:19
relationship is
31:20
posts it was too much they said enough
31:23
of that much
31:25
you you are you are pushing something
31:27
that we don’t push here at facebook
31:29
and that’s like good speaking yeah no
31:32
good lives here
31:33
speaking of of uh pushing
31:38
alexandra acacio cortez uh skipped
31:41
the inauguration because
31:44
republicans give her the old
31:46
heebie-jeebies matt
31:48
yeah uh she said that republicans make
31:50
her nervous and uh then she said
31:54
man i really should have put this in the
31:55
notes uh somebody tried to show up with
31:57
a gun
31:58
one of the republican senators tried to
32:00
bring a gun
32:01
uh to the house floor and she said if
32:04
somebody is showing up
32:05
here with a gun that means the rest of
32:09
us
32:09
are in danger showing that she doesn’t
32:11
understand
32:12
understand how guns work yeah how guns
32:14
work um
32:17
but she’s gonna wait till she hears
32:18
about the capitol police she’s gonna be
32:20
horrified
32:21
yeah but uh yeah so she ended up not
32:24
showing up to the uh
32:26
to the inauguration which many of the
32:28
democrats were upset about because it
32:29
was supposed to be
32:29
about unity and look the democrats are
32:31
behind biden and she
32:33
the poster child of the socialist
32:37
left did not show up i i like i saw one
32:40
meme after
32:41
it happened and it was like oh it sure
32:43
looks like a nice party for someone that
32:44
owes me two thousand dollars
32:46
[Laughter]
32:54
oh i like that i like she did
32:57
she did immediately follow up uh saying
33:00
that republicans made
33:01
her nervous um by saying she wanted to
33:04
start re-education camps for people that
33:06
she deems white supremacists
33:08
oh that definitely won’t end uh end
33:10
poorly so yeah at a
33:12
town hall on uh this past friday uh aoc
33:15
said that the house subcommittee on
33:18
civil rights
33:18
she serves on has held hearings over the
33:20
prior two years on white supremacy
33:23
and said that there are programs to
33:25
quote-unquote
33:26
do you radicalize the adherence of
33:31
white supremacy keep in mind
33:35
if you’re watching this facebook
33:36
probably thinks you’re a white
33:37
supremacist
33:39
even if you’re not white yes especially
33:41
if you’re not white
33:42
especially if you’re not white um
33:46
she said that there is a spectrum of
33:47
radicalization that ranges from
33:49
sympathizers to conspiracy theorists to
33:52
neo-nazis
33:54
i’m not sure if that’s the full full
33:57
spectrum
33:58
uh it’s quite a spectrum it is quite a
34:00
spectrum
34:02
such radical ideology could lead to
34:04
violence and domestic
34:05
terrorism you know like going
34:08
door to door to grab people and put them
34:10
in camps
34:13
that that would be an accurate example
34:15
of that so during the same appearance
34:17
uh she uh let everyone uh know where she
34:21
stood on free speech
34:22
uh by saying that it’s time to quote
34:24
figure out how we reign in our media
34:26
environment
34:27
so that you can’t just spew what she
34:29
considers to be disinformation
34:31
so if you were on facebook today or
34:34
twitter or
34:35
certainly anything that isn’t float
34:37
because this wouldn’t happen on float
34:38
if you were on some other social media
34:40
platform and you thought goodness
34:42
it’s too free here and i’m hearing too
34:46
many opinions
34:47
and i’m not seeing enough fact checks
34:50
and arbitrary bannings well
34:52
alexandra ocasio-cortez has some
34:54
fantastic news for you folks
34:58
and i would uh i would advise aoc just
35:01
in case she gets banned off of facebook
35:03
that here’s a shameless uh
35:04
plug you can download first of all it
35:07
takes two seconds to join float.com
35:09
second you can download your facebook
35:11
data and which map i wish we
35:13
i don’t think we have this built when
35:14
you got banned but you can download your
35:15
facebook data your posts pictures and
35:17
your videos all those cherish
35:19
moments with your loved ones and all
35:21
those memes and uh
35:23
and you can upload it to your your flip
35:24
account so that’s a pretty cool feature
35:26
that we
35:27
rolled out a couple months ago and um
35:30
and i hope that’s awesome you know
35:31
follows follows uh follows suit of many
35:34
others and joins float
35:35
and she can speak your mind there she
35:38
will immediately reach out to you to ban
35:41
us everyone else she’ll say this is
35:44
great i i noticed that there are some
35:46
people here
35:48
who are saying some things i really do
35:50
not like
35:51
so if you could do me a solid and kick
35:53
off
35:55
everyone else that would really help
35:58
uh but no she’s welcome she’s welcome to
36:00
join everyone’s welcome to join
36:02
um i’m surprised trump didn’t set up an
36:04
account there yet so he could
36:06
he could get his stuff out there what
36:08
what is he doing now
36:10
does he like newsletters or emailers or
36:12
what is he doing
36:13
i haven’t got like so i was on somehow i
36:15
ended up on a trump email list and
36:17
or just maybe it was a gop email list
36:20
i’m not a hundred percent certain right
36:22
yeah spam um but i haven’t gotten
36:25
anything from him i heard that
36:26
he did start an office of the former
36:29
president here in florida
36:31
um where that is where he’s going to be
36:33
conducting his official business as the
36:35
former president
36:37
can we just all like create these
36:38
offices like out of nowhere can i just
36:40
create the office of
36:42
future vice lord or something like that
36:44
i don’t know yeah no
36:45
at this point that would have every bit
36:47
as much authority as the office that
36:48
trump just created
36:50
like he just there is no such thing as
36:52
an office a former
36:54
pres he just made it and what i love is
36:56
that
36:57
yeah he just made it what he actually
36:59
did was he took the presidential seal
37:01
um but it just says former under it and
37:03
um
37:05
and what i love about it is the one that
37:07
i saw it was in grayscale
37:09
meaning that they didn’t get like uh uh
37:12
uh
37:13
either they didn’t get a color printer
37:15
or um or they
37:16
they forgot to fill the the the
37:19
they just have the black cartridge full
37:22
and um
37:23
and which either is equally plausible
37:25
with him so
37:26
we have that to look for he’s running in
37:28
2024. like i i
37:29
there’s no way he’s doing everything you
37:32
would do
37:33
he he his ego won’t let him not run
37:36
and it will be if you thought 2016
37:39
watching him destroy the the gop uh
37:42
competition then was funny
37:44
wait till you watch him destroy the
37:46
whole party
37:47
uh and uh that’ll that’ll be uh
37:50
pretty pretty interesting so kingsley
37:54
we have you know uh this is a perfect
37:57
example of of why
37:59
float is important and why your platform
38:01
is important
38:02
because according to
38:05
one of the more prominent members of the
38:07
party that’s in charge of congress right
38:09
now
38:10
the problem with media and social media
38:12
right now is that they aren’t doing
38:14
enough to fact check and ban
38:17
people and you know stop them from being
38:20
able to create groups and
38:21
you know and and and you know hyper
38:23
focus on every single thing they put out
38:25
that that the problem is they’re not
38:27
doing enough of that they need to be
38:28
kicking more people off of social media
38:30
and basically de-personing them in this
38:33
social media driven world that we live
38:35
in now
38:35
you know talk to us about
38:38
and we may have started on this but what
38:40
was it originally that led you to want
38:42
to do this in the first place
38:44
yeah um so i was actually developing a a
38:48
privacy wallet we actually got some
38:50
precedent funding to develop a privacy
38:51
wallet that was focused on
38:53
for crypto for those focus on like
38:54
monero zcash and other privacy protocols
38:57
but
38:57
then uh my wife and i we started
38:59
developing some uh
39:01
you know some friendships with content
39:03
creators that are on youtube
39:04
a lot of people that we all like know
39:07
and love and
39:07
you know and building up their youtube
39:09
audience since like the ron paul days or
39:11
even before that
39:12
you know getting to a hundred thousand
39:13
subscribers 250 000 subscribers 500 000
39:15
subscribers even a million subscribers
39:17
and you know they’re starting to make an
39:19
income uh from the youtube ads and super
39:21
chats and they’re following there
39:23
and they’re just really you know they’re
39:25
getting excited about what was going on
39:27
um and then all of a sudden boom you
39:29
know deep platform demonetize
39:32
uh strike one strike two you know no
39:34
strikes but you’re out
39:36
and we then we were like whoa okay this
39:39
is this is pretty crazy what’s going on
39:40
and just as a
39:42
former youtube fan myself and a fan i’ve
39:44
just you know
39:46
googled for research and and all these
39:48
big tech platforms that we’ve we’ve
39:50
known and loved for years until really
39:52
up until recently for the most part
39:54
um you know i just started noticing like
39:56
a lot of these independent journalists
39:57
that i that i’ve been following for
39:58
years they
39:59
were starting to have changed words that
40:01
they had to say
40:02
uh in order to cover current events that
40:04
cnn msnbc the mainstream media fox news
40:08
um you know they didn’t have to change
40:09
the words that they had to say and
40:11
just how like strange and orwellian that
40:13
is i mean this is like really this is
40:14
like affecting
40:15
you know human psychology and behavior
40:18
and
40:19
uh in 2018 i i actually tried to move
40:22
off of all the big tech platforms to
40:24
more like decentralized platforms or at
40:25
least like small tech platforms and
40:27
and i just noticed that they they
40:28
weren’t quite there yet and and then
40:31
once i recognized that these things were
40:32
happening to content creators
40:34
i realized that there was not only was
40:36
it the right thing to do to support free
40:37
speech but let’s create a platform where
40:39
also
40:40
they can earn uh uh money and in crypto
40:43
and
40:43
you know the next the future of money
40:46
right now
40:47
and so we uh yeah we developed we
40:50
developed float for that reason to
40:52
really you know our big focus is to help
40:54
content creators because they are the
40:55
ones that have these larger communities
40:57
on the social networks but
40:58
really just so everyone can still have a
41:00
voice and it’s not anything
41:01
that crazy i mean we’re really just
41:02
turning the clock back about five years
41:04
to what
41:05
you know youtube and facebook for the
41:07
most part stood for what they were
41:08
supposed to be yeah
41:10
right yeah and then you know the the
41:11
ethos of the internet was always
41:13
supposed to be just you know human
41:14
communication uh uncensorable
41:16
and and so here here we are and it’s you
41:19
know it’s it’s really
41:20
it’s really terrifying with like what’s
41:21
happening but there’s a business
41:22
opportunity
41:23
um i just hope you know in some ways
41:25
it’s before i used to kind of curse you
41:27
know
41:28
uh at every time i would hear about a
41:30
headline of facebook censoring people or
41:32
youtube doing this doing that but now
41:34
it’s like
41:34
hey they just keep shooting yes yeah
41:36
yeah yeah
41:37
okay go for it like piss off pewdiepie
41:40
some more you know whatever you got to
41:41
do
41:42
um because it just makes our you know
41:45
makes
41:45
our mission statement or what we’re
41:47
doing our goal uh just
41:49
so more obvious to so many more people
41:51
and as far as like the fact-checking
41:52
thing you know
41:53
we do have fact checkers actually
41:55
actually on our site um but we
41:56
we uh democratize the fact checking to
41:59
leave it up to the individual
42:00
to look into the facts themselves which
42:03
is crazy
42:04
i know but um but that’s you know that’s
42:07
how we feel is the most efficient way to
42:09
move forward instead of
42:10
hiring some sort of experts that lie to
42:12
you and their own you know
42:15
on their own website and in this
42:16
[ __ ] the facts uh you know we leave
42:18
it up to you to
42:20
do your own research as many of us have
42:23
done in the past and are doing now and
42:25
we’ll continue to do in the future and
42:26
if you can’t handle that then
42:27
i would suggest staying on twitter i
42:29
would suggest staying on on
42:31
facebook and you know have fun so we’ve
42:33
got over on uh over on float
42:35
float.app um we’ve had a bunch of people
42:38
asking questions but uh billy pierce
42:40
from texas billy pierce
42:42
at billy pierce for texas uh he said
42:44
that he would really love to hear
42:46
uh your opinions on section 230 and how
42:49
actual lawsuit might look if 230 is
42:51
stricken or weakened
42:54
yeah i you know i don’t know obviously
42:56
like we’re following that
42:57
um but i don’t trust
43:00
you know 2 30 it kind of you know kind
43:03
of seems like a good thing at least
43:04
it says you know i hate all government
43:06
regulations
43:08
but sometimes you need government like
43:10
better government regulations to deal
43:12
with
43:12
other government regulations that they
43:13
already have in the past and that’s kind
43:14
of what two three is it a bit
43:16
right so i’m uh you know if they if they
43:19
just take away
43:20
230 it can put us you know it can put us
43:23
in jeopardy as as far as uh
43:25
you know our operations and in every
43:26
other social operate you know
43:28
social media or social platform or any
43:30
type of you know form
43:32
um so i don’t think that that’s very
43:35
you know enforceable uh it seems kind of
43:38
you know i don’t think that i don’t know
43:40
how you would do that on on the internet
43:42
uh today but um i mean good luck with
43:44
that if they try to do that but
43:46
i don’t think they’ll do that i think
43:47
what they’ll probably do is they’ll
43:48
probably
43:49
try to reform it in some you know worse
43:51
way for
43:52
the small guys and you know how right
43:54
exactly they always benefit the big guys
43:56
so you know they’ll probably be like oh
43:58
well if your you know
44:00
platform has fact checkers and this and
44:03
that
44:03
and blah blah blah then you can’t be
44:04
suited you know something stupid like
44:06
that well we’ll see though
44:07
i hope that i hope they don’t do
44:08
anything right yeah no absolutely
44:10
so many people for you know for most of
44:13
trump’s presidency anyway have been
44:15
saying we need to get rid of section 230
44:16
you know we need to get rid of section
44:18
230
44:18
and i always said to him i was like how
44:21
bad do you think
44:23
social media and the internet will be if
44:25
they get rid of section 230.
44:26
these people are not very liable for the
44:28
things that you say
44:30
i’ve seen some of the dumb stuff you put
44:32
on facebook and some of the dumb stuff
44:33
you put on twitter
44:35
they’ll be liable for it yeah everybody
44:37
will get kicked off
44:39
and it will it will hurt float
44:42
much more than facebook because a
44:44
facebook has
44:45
no problem with censoring everything
44:48
it’ll become dog picture and food
44:51
picture book
44:52
and that’s pretty much it and even then
44:54
like you’ll have to verify that the dog
44:56
came from a no kill shelter and that the
44:59
food
44:59
is vegan gluten free and fair trade
45:02
or else they won’t let you post that
45:04
they’ll have that in place and they have
45:06
an army of attorneys to fight the
45:07
liability claims
45:08
in court the last thing you want i’ve
45:11
gotten into this with so many
45:12
libertarians who don’t understand what
45:14
section 230 is
45:15
section 230 is a regulation that really
45:18
just it explains it’s really just a
45:21
clarification more than a regulation
45:23
it says that when someone does something
45:25
illegal on the internet
45:27
they are responsible for it not the
45:30
platform they did it on not the host
45:32
that it was hosted on not the
45:33
the owner of the the registrar for the
45:35
domain that it’s that you that they use
45:38
to to have the website uh that points to
45:40
the website
45:41
none of that it is the person the people
45:43
that were involved in it
45:45
that are liable if you remove that
45:47
protection
45:48
or really just that clarification that
45:50
the person who did it is responsible for
45:52
it
45:52
then float’s not going to be able to
45:54
exist in its current form
45:56
it’ll either have to become incredibly
45:58
punitive for anything that
46:00
isn’t like you know uh uh i i don’t know
46:03
how you’d be able to function
46:04
you would anything that could
46:06
potentially cause a lawsuit
46:08
or lead to a a criminal action you would
46:10
have to censor
46:12
i would imagine a smaller platform would
46:14
have to just not exist they would have
46:15
to go out of business to avoid
46:17
liability so section 230 is not the
46:19
answer
46:20
the answer is to get rid of all of the
46:24
various regulations that are not just on
46:25
the internet but in gen
46:27
in business in general that that creates
46:30
such a
46:31
a a a barrier for people that are trying
46:34
to
46:34
grow a business and give so much
46:36
weighting towards
46:38
the established companies who are trying
46:39
to you know protect their market share
46:41
when you when you deregulate the
46:42
business environment in general that’ll
46:44
make it easier for
46:45
a float and other things to be able to
46:47
thrive without having to already be
46:49
these established multi-billion dollar
46:51
uh platforms but the really the biggest
46:53
thing we can do is what we can do
46:55
which is use float use these these um
46:58
these apps and these these social media
47:00
platforms that do respect
47:02
your uh your privacy and do respect your
47:04
your autonomy now
47:06
kingsley what i like about your platform
47:08
is that
47:09
unlike most other social media platforms
47:11
or pretty much all the other ones i know
47:13
of
47:13
all the other platforms
47:16
they’re geared towards advertisers
47:18
whereas
47:19
your platform is actually geared where
47:21
it should be towards
47:23
creators and the people who want to see
47:25
that can you talk to us a little bit
47:26
about that that difference between
47:28
a platform where you know you are the
47:31
where the person using is the product
47:33
and a platform that actually encourages
47:35
creation and community yeah
47:39
absolutely um actually duckduckgo put
47:41
out a great blog post
47:43
uh it was probably well now it’s
47:44
probably been like a year almost two
47:46
years
47:47
and it talks about the difference of the
47:48
duckduckgo model versus
47:50
the the big tech model and how you know
47:52
big tech facebook google all these
47:53
companies are
47:54
are creating these these social profiles
47:56
of you that you’re they’re selling to
47:57
advertisers
47:58
but what duckduckgo what they found out
48:00
is actually that keyword based
48:01
advertising is much more efficient
48:03
and much better for the end user um so
48:06
that they can see
48:07
you know we’re we’re going to support
48:08
we’re going to support more ads going
48:10
forward but the cool thing about what
48:11
we’re doing is we have two sets of ads
48:13
we have network ads which we we make
48:14
money off of that could be like a
48:16
sidebar ad a banner ad or
48:17
even an impose feed ad which we were
48:19
kind of trying with right now
48:20
but right um it’s based off of uh
48:22
keywords that
48:24
that you’re searching for so we’re not
48:25
we’re not like gathering this whole
48:27
thing you know and looking taking every
48:28
single
48:29
little bit that you put it posted on
48:31
float and other sites like facebook and
48:33
google where they they track everywhere
48:35
that you’re going
48:36
and they they you know make this model
48:37
of you which a lot of times is wrong and
48:39
that’s what that that was dr go’s whole
48:41
thing is that
48:42
a lot of times you know you may be
48:43
searching for uh
48:45
flowers for your grandmother’s 80th
48:47
birthday but that’s that doesn’t say
48:49
much about you actually and every day
48:51
and every day yeah
48:52
so um so you know and what we’re doing
48:55
is actually we’re again
48:56
with uh cryptocurrency which is the
48:59
future of money
49:00
we are creating uh where we’re
49:02
connecting the advertiser to
49:04
to the the user anyone that wants to
49:06
monetize uh their profile will be able
49:08
to whether it’s audio video
49:10
uh even in post so if you do want to
49:12
monetize your content in your community
49:14
which is no problem with that i mean
49:15
there’s no problem with showing some
49:17
something that
49:17
it’s a lot some people i was i was
49:19
actually surprised that a lot of people
49:20
they don’t mind seeing ads because if
49:22
they’re if they’re targeted ads
49:23
then it’s something that they’re they’re
49:25
looking for which i don’t know
49:27
it pisses us off when we see these you
49:29
know well pisses off when they listen to
49:31
our phones
49:32
and you’re talking about the bahamas
49:34
then all of a sudden you see this you
49:35
know
49:35
this thing to take a cruise or a flight
49:38
that’s what bothers us yeah
49:39
yeah so so it’s just a matter of like
49:42
again
49:43
uh we don’t have to you know first of
49:45
all connecting advertiser to user so the
49:47
user can generate or the content creator
49:48
can generate 100 percent of that uh that
49:50
advertisement we stand out of the way as
49:52
a middleman which we can do with
49:53
cryptocurrency which is so exciting
49:55
um but also yeah just not just you know
49:57
again rewinding the clock a bit
49:59
and just saying hey we’re not in it to
50:02
like spy
50:03
and do all this craziness and censor
50:04
people we just want to do it to be
50:06
instead of extracting value from the
50:09
user we want to create value for the
50:10
user and uh and that’s you know that’s
50:13
really
50:14
you know what we’re doing and what we’re
50:15
building wow that’s awesome man
50:18
we had somebody ask uh if you guys are
50:20
gonna have um
50:23
hang on they they they went on a comment
50:26
spree
50:27
um
50:30
blue check marks for uh accounts
50:34
but not probably not so good yeah uh yes
50:38
uh we actually are so but here’s the way
50:40
that we’re going to do it that i think
50:41
is really cool and different
50:43
so uh key base have you guys heard of
50:45
key base yeah it’s like an encrypted
50:46
chat service
50:47
so what key base did is they they made
50:49
it so that you can link so we all
50:50
we all have our social identities right
50:52
now right some of them are being taken
50:54
away from us
50:55
on day by day basis like like matt and
50:57
many others
50:58
but um but we have you know our facebook
51:00
our twitter our
51:01
you know reddit or whatever github if
51:04
you’re a developer
51:04
so we all have these things so what key
51:05
base did is they made it so that you can
51:07
link your key base
51:08
account to multiple other accounts and
51:10
verify those accounts so that when i’m
51:11
talking to this key based user
51:13
i know that uh and i you know i know
51:15
that this is their twitter account all
51:16
this
51:17
so then i can basically have a better
51:18
judgment of that i’m talking to this key
51:20
based user
51:21
and this is really important especially
51:22
when we talk about cryptocurrency and
51:24
payments
51:24
because you want to know if you’re
51:26
transacting with someone that that is
51:27
the person
51:28
that you are trans exactly we have we
51:30
have some friends
51:31
and uh that actually just got got
51:33
scammed unfortunately because of
51:34
uh aaron’s uh had an impersonator and
51:37
they thought you know there was a really
51:38
good impersonator they thought that
51:40
that uh you know what it was just you
51:42
know [ __ ] story but
51:44
but anyway you know so that that’s
51:45
terrible but where
51:47
twitter the blue checkmark it became
51:49
this you know this first of all is like
51:51
celebrity only celebrities and this and
51:53
that and it’s it’s still
51:54
pretty much that you have to have you
51:55
know but at the end of the day it’s just
51:57
a
51:58
better verification of your online
52:01
twitter
52:02
identity so why why is it this like you
52:04
know a steam thing oh i got a blue check
52:06
mark it shouldn’t even be like that it
52:07
should be you know it should be anybody
52:09
should be able to have a blue check mark
52:10
as long as they
52:11
uh perform certain functions to verify
52:13
their identity so we’re gonna have we’re
52:14
gonna do the same thing we’re copying
52:16
what key base is doing where
52:17
you’ll be able to verify with your other
52:19
social accounts and we’ll try to include
52:20
as many as we can so that you’ll be able
52:22
to verify
52:23
to your foot account and then also one
52:25
idea that i am toying with because
52:26
i don’t i personally as a company don’t
52:28
want to be involved with
52:30
getting you know twitter typically or
52:32
even facebook they want your your
52:33
government id and all this craziness
52:36
we’re trying to make id
52:37
uh where you can have an id that’s not
52:39
tied to government
52:41
um so so but we may what we may do is
52:43
that where
52:44
we have a there’s tons of third-party uh
52:47
uh providers out there now and we can
52:48
just link up their api so that if you
52:50
did want to verify
52:51
your government identity and say you
52:52
have a business or you’re a certain
52:54
personality on float
52:55
then you can send your your uh your id
52:58
to them
52:58
and then we can just use an api process
53:00
to like verify that okay they gave you
53:02
the check mark and then
53:03
it goes to float so that’s those are
53:04
some of the things that we’re working on
53:06
really just taking the models that exist
53:07
today but making them better and
53:09
more transparent and we feel better for
53:11
the end user
53:12
that’s awesome that is awesome man so i
53:15
mean
53:16
i i this is the time like you said you
53:19
know
53:19
we saw this coming uh i don’t think any
53:22
of us or
53:22
i i certainly didn’t think it would be
53:24
happening this quickly and rapidly
53:27
uh but it is obvious that they are that
53:29
you know big tech
53:30
is moving towards in in a frightening
53:34
pace
53:34
to curate what people think
53:38
and it’s and it’s one thing so if i were
53:41
to make a social media platform
53:42
and i said okay listen if you advocate
53:45
for genocide
53:46
you’re gone or if you advocate for
53:49
pedophilia you’re gone like you know
53:52
it’s one thing to have a certain set of
53:53
standards
53:54
and i think that that’s where facebook
53:56
and twitter and these other ones started
53:57
was
53:57
you can’t go on there and be like yeah
53:59
let’s round up all of this group and
54:01
murder them or something like that
54:02
but at some point it turned into well
54:06
we don’t think this is true so you
54:09
shouldn’t be able to say that either
54:11
and when people say this there are bad
54:14
people who agree with that
54:16
not everyone who agrees with this bad
54:18
but there are certainly some bad people
54:20
who agree with that so you can’t say
54:22
that either and
54:24
we didn’t like who won the 2016 election
54:26
so we’re certainly not gonna ever let
54:28
that
54:28
happen on our social media again and it
54:31
all of a sudden turn into
54:33
we’re going to decide the outcome of
54:36
what people believe
54:38
by molding what people are and are not
54:40
allowed to say on our increasingly
54:42
uh dominant platforms and i actually
54:46
uh uh i forget what was the name of the
54:47
person i talked to on your
54:49
on your pod on your on on float that we
54:51
talked on
54:52
on your podcast like two days before the
54:54
election
54:55
yeah richard and we talked about the
54:58
whole dopamine rush
54:59
effect that is in social media social
55:02
media is gamed
55:03
uh in the same way it’s kind of a much
55:05
more extreme version
55:07
of a slot machine where you get these
55:09
little mini rushes and it keeps you at
55:11
it and you lose track of what time it is
55:13
you lose track of what you’re doing
55:14
the difference is imagine a uh imagine a
55:17
slot machine that always gave you
55:19
more money than you put in that’s
55:21
essentially what facebook and twitter
55:23
and these other social media are
55:25
you’re not paying anything upfront
55:26
except your time and you’re getting back
55:29
this reward
55:30
of people validating you people liking
55:32
you people heart reacting you
55:34
people talking to you people sharing
55:36
your content
55:37
and and what happens is your brain gets
55:40
addicted to that
55:41
you know that’s why when a lot of people
55:42
when they’re away from their social
55:43
media
55:44
uh for a long period of time because of
55:46
like an internet outage or something
55:47
they get depressed
55:48
because they’ve been so wired to need
55:51
that dopamine rush
55:52
and that puts facebook and and twitter
55:54
and youtube and the rest of them
55:56
in a position now of saying yeah you
55:58
lose that if you don’t do what we say
56:01
if you if you want to be able to
56:02
continue getting that good feeling
56:04
without having to go outside then you
56:07
got to say the way
56:08
the things the way we want you to say
56:09
you have to avoid opinions we don’t want
56:11
you to say
56:12
and they’re really molding people you
56:14
know getting them hooked on the product
56:16
and then you know molding people’s
56:17
opinion and i i think it’s great that
56:19
you’re doing the opposite that you’re
56:21
saying
56:22
no you should be able to engage in this
56:24
without having us tell you
56:26
what to say are there any you know are
56:28
there any
56:30
things that can or cannot be said on
56:31
your platform that you know
56:33
are our deal breakers or you know what
56:35
what are those types of things
56:36
yeah so we have to we have to follow uh
56:39
us law
56:40
because we are a us-based company right
56:42
um
56:43
but but you know we might have to change
56:45
that soon depending on what’s coming
56:46
with the the new administration but um
56:49
but yeah i mean we have we have a basic
56:51
set of rules
56:52
uh no spam no doxxing no malware no
56:55
username squatting
56:56
we’re going to be updating these rules
56:58
too here just to explain them a little
56:59
better but
57:00
but we want it to be as you know
57:03
the the issue right now too with with
57:05
big tech is because they have these
57:06
commute community guidelines right
57:08
and they’re just so big and then even if
57:10
they do kick you off they’ll you know uh
57:12
our other friend josh you just got
57:13
kicked off uh again
57:14
first facebook now it’s completely
57:16
disabled and
57:18
it’s like you know they don’t even tell
57:19
you what you
57:21
where you did rule you broke of theirs
57:23
we have so many so many stories of that
57:24
from you know
57:25
250 000 subscribers on on uh you know
57:27
it’s youtube you know taking away boom
57:29
like that
57:30
and they don’t tell you anything so we
57:32
just want to be as you know transparent
57:33
and even if we do kick you off we’re
57:35
going to let you know
57:36
what what you know what happened here
57:38
and it’s because it’s gonna you know
57:39
stem from uh
57:40
you know from these seven rules or you
57:43
know we like i said we
57:44
we’re just gonna basically go out and uh
57:46
and make these as you know plain
57:47
language as possible
57:49
no legalese and uh and yeah i mean again
57:52
you know
57:53
especially like when it comes to uh well
57:56
ip and then also
57:57
uh you know like threats of violence or
57:59
harassment this i mean
58:01
in my opinion you know again we we have
58:02
we you know go by
58:04
our uh our legal advice to to deal with
58:06
things as they come
58:08
but um but i mean it just it’s just
58:10
interesting um
58:11
when it comes to like you say like a
58:12
threat or something like that i mean
58:14
if you’re going to get the authorities
58:15
involved with all this well then it
58:17
might be
58:17
a bit easier to uh you know to actually
58:20
have that
58:20
have that information public for a bit
58:22
and so whoever needs to deal with it can
58:24
deal with it
58:25
but um but it’s you know it’s just
58:27
interesting times right now and things
58:28
are changing
58:29
yeah yeah well um well thank you so much
58:32
for
58:33
matt did you have any other questions um
58:36
we we had somebody on float that said
58:38
that uh kingsley was really hot and
58:40
wants your number
58:42
well i’m married but go ahead and slide
58:44
into my my pm’s my private messages
58:46
which are 256 bit encrypted um
58:50
that’s another thing that we you know we
58:51
had it on float is so that’s uh
58:54
you know we want to support encrypted
58:55
messaging we’re even looking into ways
58:57
where we can integrate potentially uh
59:00
it’s not a promise but this is something
59:01
that i would really like because we’re
59:03
our big focus two of us is being
59:04
interoperable so
59:06
right now you can you can attach your
59:07
your uh your twitter account to your
59:09
flow profile so when you
59:11
when you uh post the flow to auto post
59:13
to twitter uh like i mentioned earlier
59:14
you can download your facebook dad and
59:16
upload it to flow
59:17
we’re going to be adding ways where you
59:18
can actually if you upload a video and
59:19
post it on float it can go to library
59:22
and to uh youtube at the same time we
59:24
want to make it so live streaming you
59:25
can just go to our app and you can
59:27
almost have a
59:28
restream feature that’s uh that’s built
59:30
in so that you can you know you can cast
59:32
to many places at the same time
59:34
all simultaneously so um that’s awesome
59:38
where was it going actually very awesome
59:41
no
59:41
no no what uh that was your segue out of
59:44
someone saying they wanted to hit up
59:45
your dms
59:46
um oh right right yeah yeah so yeah so
59:48
so oh yeah so sorry i was going to say
59:50
that it was your wife that was trying to
59:52
hit up your dm
59:55
um but uh but yeah so like with with uh
59:58
with messages for instance like
59:59
we’re looking into ways where we can
60:01
have the float encrypted messaging but
60:03
also we can have
60:04
you remember back in the day where we
60:05
had like msn messenger and aol
60:08
and yahoo and irc and all these other
60:10
ones and then they had like apps like
60:12
trilio and other ones that put them all
60:14
in a nice
60:15
uh format where you can just interact
60:16
with that person in one app
60:18
so we’re looking into doing that on
60:20
float with uh signal and telegram right
60:22
now so we can integrate
60:23
those two things in your club so we just
60:25
want to be like a central hub for
60:26
communication
60:28
and uh in broadcasting your message and
60:30
also you know payments too
60:32
and i think uh over time i mean right
60:34
now you know this is what i tell a lot
60:35
of people but
60:36
right now is the the opportunity to gain
60:38
a hundred million users which is less
60:39
than five percent
60:40
of facebook’s user base in the next five
60:43
years and i think it’s completely
60:44
possible for
60:45
us and a bunch of other platforms i
60:46
think there’s going to be a you know
60:48
splintering of different communities
60:49
that come out
60:50
and we just want to be one of the
60:51
communities that helps uh connect these
60:53
different platforms both
60:54
old big tech and and kind of this you
60:57
know small tech new tech
60:58
and uh and be the kind of the gateway
61:00
for people to use
61:02
that’s awesome yeah no that’s awesome
61:05
that is really really cool so
61:07
kings thank you so much for coming on
61:09
and uh
61:10
i you know give you one more chance to
61:13
give your your elevator pitch for float
61:15
uh you know if if people want to find
61:18
out more what’s the best way
61:19
uh to do that what’s the best way for
61:21
them to find out more about flow
61:24
um yeah i mean just join floats um i’m
61:27
uh king on there float.app slash
61:29
king uh also my wife is great at uh
61:31
communicating and helping people
61:33
uh get onboarded to float so she’s she’s
61:35
aaron um
61:36
you know just uh there’s tons of there’s
61:38
tons of uh videos out there
61:40
and and you know i’ve been i’ve been a a
61:42
libertarian
61:43
uh now i call myself a volunteers but
61:45
i’ve been a libertarian since the ron
61:47
paul days back in i think 27 i turned
61:49
libertarian
61:51
really really think that you know what
61:53
we’re doing is important along with just
61:54
the movement uh for free speech to keep
61:56
free speech on
61:58
on the internet um and uh you know
62:01
again like it’s a simple equation really
62:03
the more users
62:04
uh these platforms like float get the
62:07
more uh
62:08
you know money that we can potentially
62:09
get from investors to build the platform
62:11
that we all want
62:12
and we’re even we’re actually going to
62:13
be launching a crowdfunding campaign
62:15
this year
62:16
uh that we can actually have
62:17
non-accredited investors that to uh to
62:19
invest
62:20
in floats are really excited about that
62:21
but now’s the time i mean there’s such a
62:23
huge opportunity
62:24
and uh and also now’s the time to stand
62:26
up and and do you know what’s right so i
62:28
have the
62:28
the honor of you know having a platform
62:31
out there that i feel is really doing
62:33
the right thing and is on the right
62:34
trajectory
62:35
and i think now you know it’s just it’s
62:37
it’s it really is
62:39
terrifying you know what i believe that
62:40
they’re they’re doing with both uh
62:42
just the manipulation of the media and
62:45
now with you know that
62:46
that coming into social media and so i
62:48
think it’s you know now’s the time to
62:50
really support good people doing good
62:51
things and i feel that we’re one of
62:52
those companies and along with
62:54
all you guys as well and so we need to
62:56
connect and we need to uh create
62:57
communities both online and in the real
62:59
world
63:00
and float is one of those places and
63:03
we’re also going to be doing float fest
63:04
you know in uh in texas uh yeah yeah
63:07
what tell us about that
63:09
yeah so uh march 8th through the 11th
63:13
is floatfest which is our first uh kind
63:15
of in real you know
63:16
float float branded events we’ve done
63:19
interco vegas in the past we were going
63:20
to do anarcho vegas in crypto vegas last
63:22
year
63:22
but you know corona happens and so uh so
63:26
now we’re doing it’s going to be it’s
63:27
about 90 minutes
63:28
northeast of austin and gauss texas i
63:31
think you pronounce it
63:32
it’s on over 100 acres of farmland uh
63:35
it’s going to be a great time
63:36
uh we’re also in anarchopoco uh
63:38
streaming partner so
63:40
and there may be some other big
63:41
announcements in regards to that with
63:43
some big names uh showing up at float
63:44
fest but
63:45
it’s a camping events uh free to vent
63:48
it’s gonna be super cheap i think we
63:50
it’s it’s at floatfest.com right now
63:52
and um yeah check it out it’s great
63:54
website that we just launched our team
63:56
launched
63:57
um has all the information there it’s
63:59
cheap we’re only charging we’re charging
64:00
by car
64:01
uh it’s free to bend so you know it’s
64:03
it’s kind of like a uh
64:04
i’m not sure if you guys have been a
64:05
pork fest but kind of like a pork fest
64:07
or a jackpot okay cool
64:08
vibe camping bring your rv um you know
64:12
show up with nothing there’s uh there’s
64:13
accommodations like 15 20 minutes away
64:15
as well
64:16
but but yeah we’re really excited about
64:18
that we have some really big
64:19
announcements
64:20
that are that are planned in the next
64:21
couple weeks
64:23
that that’s awesome and you know we were
64:26
we were on float
64:28
god a year and a half ago yeah yeah
64:30
almost two years are you trying to get a
64:31
free ticket
64:33
is that no yes we’re not we’re not
64:37
not trying to get a free ticket i was
64:39
just going to give you guys props but
64:41
you know i’ll take that too yeah i mean
64:42
i’ll take a take on them
64:44
but um yeah yeah we were early adopters
64:48
of
64:48
flow and you know it immediately became
64:50
one of our favorite social media sites
64:52
yeah definitely and just the sheer fact
64:56
that
64:57
we’re not getting kicked off um makes it
65:00
just
65:00
much more promising that much more
65:02
popular with us yeah yeah
65:04
really love that one um and i know spike
65:06
just opened up his personal
65:08
over there yep um are you just spike
65:11
cone over there are you
65:12
literally yeah float float dot app slash
65:14
spike cohen and we’re also
65:15
uh float dot app slash muddy waters
65:17
media for for muddy waters
65:19
and uh yeah everyone go to flow and
65:22
leave everything else
65:23
and we can go and be free right
65:27
so folks thanks so much and king thanks
65:29
so much for coming on we really
65:30
appreciate it yeah we really appreciate
65:31
it for having me
65:32
yeah absolutely awesome absolutely so
65:34
folks we’re gonna do a brief
65:36
intermission and then we’ll be right
65:37
back
65:38
uh and we will when we get back we will
65:40
be doing the personal injury attorney
65:42
chris reynolds attorney at law
65:43
anchor colin moment uh so be sure to
65:46
stay tuned
65:47
for that
65:52
hello everyone our parents and
65:55
grandparents
65:56
built this country they raised us and
65:59
they deserve
66:00
so much better that’s ridiculous
66:05
[Music]
66:16
to see a federal party leader use
66:18
insinuations
66:20
and carefully coded questions and of
66:22
course stand there innocently
66:24
i was just asking questions that’s
66:30
ridiculous
66:41
[Music]
66:43
that’s ridiculous
66:46
that’s ridiculous last week what happens
66:50
when leaders don’t take care of other
66:51
words they do and particularly this week
66:53
when we just lived through last week
66:55
that kind of political
66:57
pandering to the worst elements into
66:59
fears and anxieties
67:01
has no place in canada and all of us
67:03
need to stand up strongly to push back
67:05
against that anywhere it happens in this
67:07
country
67:12
[Music]
67:22
that’s ridiculous
67:28
hey that’s not supposed to look like
67:29
that hey everybody
67:32
this is we’re back but also
67:36
i don’t know why matt looks like that
67:40
hey everybody welcome back i’m gonna fix
67:43
this while matt talks
67:45
welcome back um
67:49
how about how about that uh man king
67:52
kingsley was
67:53
amazing he was great yeah king is like i
67:56
didn’t doubt he would be
67:57
but that was and we were all like
68:01
mildly different shades of brunette and
68:04
or blonde
68:05
like it was like a spectrum yeah we were
68:08
the whole
68:09
we were the whole brunette spectrum i
68:11
don’t know why your thing’s doing that
68:15
um but uh yeah for anybody who isn’t on
68:19
float uh float.app
68:21
float.app slash uh muddiedwatersmedia
68:25
you can find us
68:26
and check out uh floatfest.com
68:31
floatfest.com where you can get
68:32
information on float fest which is
68:33
coming up march
68:34
8th um
68:38
super excited about the event especially
68:39
you know if
68:41
our good friends over at float uh give
68:43
us tickets yeah because
68:44
we’re early adopters give us tickets
68:47
we’re early adopters man
68:49
we’re early adopters not and you know
68:51
we’re
68:52
early adopters and if we get the little
68:54
float
68:56
symbol next to our name yeah we’re going
68:58
to get a blue float mark or whatever
69:00
they’re going to call it
69:00
whatever they’re going to use it yeah
69:03
well folks
69:04
thanks again for coming back after our
69:05
brief intermission we
69:07
are now on that magical thing called the
69:10
personal injury attorney chris reynolds
69:12
attorney at law anchor colin moment
69:14
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69:17
at anchor dot fm slash
69:21
or anchor dot fm slash muddied waters
69:25
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69:28
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69:30
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69:34
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69:35
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69:40
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69:42
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69:43
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69:48
so there is that so here is our first uh
69:50
here is our first question from
69:52
raw liberty media
69:59
from
70:01
calling
70:18
i couldn’t understand what he was saying
70:21
so i think what he was saying
70:22
um was that joe biden
70:27
something about 4.9 trillion dollars but
70:30
i remember
70:31
i’m gonna look up joe biden four point
70:32
nine trillion dollars because it may
70:34
have been 1.9 trillion dollars which is
70:35
the stimulus package that he’s proposed
70:38
oh yeah because nothing’s coming up for
70:41
four tr
70:42
oh yeah 1.9 so assuming uh
70:45
that you asked about the stimulus deal
70:49
it’s garbage uh the vast majority of the
70:51
money is going to big business
70:53
and uh big government agencies
70:56
that little of it’s going to us and it’s
70:58
going to be used as an excuse to keep us
71:00
shut down
71:01
indefinitely so it’s terrible matt
71:03
you’re right
71:06
cameron hates it yeah i mean matt hates
71:09
it
71:10
again i hate it he’s 10 i think and it’s
71:13
ten thousand dollars off student loans
71:15
that he’s been
71:16
promising but this is this is the man
71:19
that wrote the bill that made it so you
71:21
can’t
71:21
claim them on your bankruptcies and
71:23
that’s part of the reason that they
71:24
skyrocketed and uh cost over the years
71:27
and he is now saying well i’m gonna give
71:30
you ten thousand of that money back
71:32
even though i said you couldn’t claim it
71:33
on your bankruptcy
71:35
yep and that’s expensive yeah and that’s
71:38
also an unfunded mandate that’s actually
71:40
not
71:41
funded in this bill so that’s going to
71:43
be up to future congresses
71:45
to decide how to pay that off so
71:48
uh that’ll be fun so here is our next
71:50
question from
71:51
josh and i think this is actually a
71:53
two-parter
71:55
hey matt spike a bunch of us
71:58
not even just sarah got shadow band
72:02
today
72:03
um this is josh mccos i also got shadow
72:06
band i’m no longer able to use
72:08
messenger um so
72:11
like you’re saying all the super fans
72:13
we’re getting
72:15
we’re getting uh shadow band
72:18
and it’s at least it’s making me less
72:22
distracted
72:23
from what i’m supposed to be doing but
72:26
you know
72:28
[ __ ] zuck
72:32
so it looks like joshua’s back now
72:36
so i know that i saw him over on youtube
72:40
and i saw him on float i don’t know if
72:42
he was on
72:43
facebook or not but um yeah a lot of
72:46
people have been getting
72:47
uh not really shadow band but complex
72:50
entity band
72:51
or whatever they’re calling it over
72:53
there now oh yeah yeah to be able to
72:55
actually do things
72:56
right uh and i know that a lot of people
73:00
who watch this show have had that happen
73:02
i don’t know if there’s a correlation um
73:06
it wouldn’t surprise me but at the same
73:08
time i
73:09
don’t know uh but i do agree with the
73:15
obscenity suck yes
73:19
and i think this is probably a corollary
73:21
to that because it’s
73:23
it’s just one it’s eight seconds here we
73:25
go
73:26
hey matt guess what alaska bush company
73:30
that’s the strip club here
73:39
gonna google that now too yeah
73:43
i sure okay
73:46
wow he’s right the great alaskan bush
73:48
company
73:54
is a nude showroom in alaska
73:58
and it’s a nude showroom and juice bar
74:01
oh they don’t they do not serve alcohol
74:04
there
74:06
you can get some refreshing juice
74:10
why’d you imagine like like when you go
74:13
to a juice bar
74:14
it’s expensive could you imagine it at a
74:15
strip club
74:18
i mean you kind of
74:22
have to be drunk or on
74:25
something for continuing to throw money
74:30
at your own sexual frustration
74:33
making sense i’m trying to picture
74:36
staying in that mindset and being like
74:39
i’d like another five alive
74:41
like it’s like
74:44
can you add some protein to that yeah
74:46
yeah yeah can you is it yeah
74:50
oh man yeah can you add some almond
74:54
powder to that cause
74:56
oh that’s funny that is funny here’s one
74:59
from billy pierce
75:01
uh who uh i am a huge fan of he was he’s
75:04
down in texas
75:05
he ran for theft collector uh did very
75:08
well in that race
75:09
and uh is really really good at
75:11
messaging liberty so here’s one for uh
75:13
for billy pierce
75:15
howdy fellers billy pierce from houston
75:17
texas here hey
75:18
right now a lot of us at the local and
75:21
state libertarian party levels
75:23
are working very hard to try to try to
75:25
be an accommodating welcome place
75:28
for all of the folks in america who find
75:30
themselves politically homeless or
75:32
political orphans right now
75:34
and there are a lot of them but in true
75:36
libertarian fashion we are uh
75:38
tripping over our own feet and arguing
75:40
internally uh
75:41
often in full public view of everybody
75:43
else so
75:44
not a good look uh so would you two find
75:48
gentlemen
75:48
care to offer a little advice for those
75:51
of us who are trying to
75:52
work to meet people where they are find
75:55
common ground
75:56
find things we can agree on and work
75:59
with people
76:00
on the things that we agree on without
76:01
getting bogged down on the things
76:03
the things we might disagree on and how
76:05
to do that
76:07
in the political environment with other
76:10
stubborn ferocious passionate
76:12
libertarians
76:14
that’s a great question matt you uh you
76:17
were a member of the libertarian
76:18
national party and
76:20
have been in in more than one
76:23
state affiliate what are your thoughts
76:25
on this yeah
76:26
i’ve been a member of two separate state
76:28
affiliates and uh the national
76:29
party um
76:34
so a big reason that
76:37
yes there’s a lot of people who feel uh
76:39
politically homeless right now there’s
76:41
you know a lot of republicans feel that
76:43
they didn’t have the republic the
76:44
republican party didn’t have trump’s
76:46
back and now they want to leave and
76:47
they’re looking at the libertarian party
76:49
um and i want everybody to look at the
76:53
libertarian party because i think that
76:55
a lot of the people who feel politically
76:57
homeless actually
76:58
probably are libertarians but they just
77:00
don’t realize it yet
77:02
right the question is whether or not you
77:05
can leave
77:06
behind the need for government to
77:10
enforce their will on people or not
77:14
for anybody who says that they can i
77:16
want them to come now as for the
77:18
infighting inside inside the
77:21
party a lot of that is communication a
77:23
lot of that
77:24
is we have different definitions for
77:27
words
77:28
um there was a show that we did back
77:31
during the election and uh you were
77:34
talking about the libertarian left and
77:35
the libertarian right
77:36
and capitalism uh was one
77:39
that they that both sides see
77:42
differently
77:43
uh the right libertarian rights he’s a
77:45
free market capitalism like a laissez
77:47
faire
77:47
and the left sees it as crony capitalism
77:51
that’s the way that i’ve always
77:52
described it anyway is crony capitalism
77:55
and basically yeah right and that
77:58
is where a lot of the
78:02
uh division comes from um so
78:06
nailing down the terms uh nailing down
78:08
the terms figuring out
78:10
how to talk to each other in a civil way
78:13
and understanding what each in a civil
78:16
way that’s a big portion of that
78:18
a civil way yes a civil way
78:21
but figuring out how to talk to each
78:22
other in a civil way and then um
78:26
understanding where each other coming
78:28
from when talking about the different
78:29
terms
78:30
will be able to bring a lot of the party
78:32
together
78:34
yep i agree i agree i think some of it
78:36
is definitional like like matt was
78:38
talking about with capitalism or with
78:39
free
78:40
markets or uh even just the ideas of
78:42
left and right
78:44
uh and but there are some things that
78:45
libertarians of different stripes
78:47
disagree on
78:48
left libertarians right libertarians
78:50
menarches anarchists there are some
78:51
things we just straight up disagree on
78:52
even if we agree to the
78:54
terms we still disagree you know how we
78:56
should proceed
78:57
what we all agree on is that we are
79:00
headed
79:01
at light speed the wrong way
79:05
if we recognize that we’re headed the
79:07
wrong way that we need to make a
79:09
completely 180
79:10
turn and head this way for quite some
79:13
time
79:14
i feel like that is a far better use of
79:16
our time for us to at to work together
79:18
and advocate for pushing that way
79:20
as opposed to letting our disagreements
79:22
over what our hypothetical society
79:24
that’s
79:25
never going to come about until we
79:27
actually can come together and dismantle
79:29
what’s being built continuously being
79:31
built right now
79:32
uh until we do that it’s useless for us
79:35
to even bother talking about it so i
79:36
just
79:37
have no interest in doing that that
79:39
arguing i’m
79:40
i’m happy to do a debate with someone
79:42
but that’s completely different
79:44
than continuously fighting and refusing
79:48
to work with people
79:49
that you disagree with things on going
79:51
back to billy’s question about bringing
79:53
people in
79:54
the politically homeless we need to meet
79:57
them where they are
79:58
in what they agree with us on so many of
80:01
the people that might be coming in from
80:02
the republican party they want a smaller
80:04
government they want lower taxes they
80:06
want less regulation
80:08
or at least less regulation on the
80:10
things they care about they want their
80:11
gun rights respected
80:12
so we can agree with them on that the
80:15
more they come into the party and the
80:17
more we can coalition with them
80:18
the more we have a position to explain
80:20
why we also support
80:22
open migration or at least streamline
80:25
immigration
80:26
why we support uh you know ending police
80:28
brutality and ending the war on drugs
80:30
some of them may already agree with that
80:31
uh
80:32
why we you know support ending the wars
80:34
and bringing the troops home some of
80:35
them may support that already
80:38
the things that we disagree on the
80:39
things that they’re still authoritarian
80:41
on
80:41
we can meet them where they are and
80:43
influence them as to why libertarianism
80:45
works our ideas are better than theirs
80:48
so if we’re on an equal playing field
80:50
where we can talk to each other
80:51
over time we can influence them with our
80:53
ideas they’re not going to convince us
80:55
to be authoritarians but we can convince
80:57
them to be libertarians that’s never
80:59
going to happen if we go wait a second
81:01
wait a second wait a second wait a
81:02
second
81:03
are you telling me you don’t agree at
81:05
least like 95
81:07
with our platform right now well then
81:08
get out of here it doesn’t work that way
81:11
right get out so that’s what we have to
81:13
do it doesn’t mean that we
81:15
elect them to lead us it just means we
81:17
welcome them in come join us find out
81:19
what we’re about let’s
81:20
here help us with this campaign and
81:22
while they’re while they’re watching the
81:24
person campaign
81:25
on property rights and and you know a a
81:28
a a consistent take on libertarianism
81:31
and they’re you know uh um
81:34
constructively
81:35
and proactively involved in it they can
81:37
go
81:39
oh wow that makes sense yeah i guess i
81:40
never looked at it that way that’s
81:42
probably how they got where they are
81:44
right now is by the influence of those
81:45
around them so let’s be the new people
81:47
around them
81:49
so here is the next question this one is
81:52
a political question
81:54
totally different than these other
81:55
questions a political question from
81:57
alex totally different from all of last
81:59
week
82:01
oh that’s why you put that it’s an
82:03
actual political okay alright cool from
82:04
alex boyer
82:06
hello hello alex from virginia calling
82:09
in on the chris reynolds personal injury
82:11
attorney attorney-law anchor column line
82:14
i have a question today for the guy on
82:16
left and spike cohen
82:19
and last week the guy on left said he
82:21
wished that the
82:23
questions would stay political in nature
82:26
and well i can’t speak for everyone else
82:28
leaving questions but
82:30
i will abide by that so wish granted
82:34
which brings me to the topic of today’s
82:36
question
82:37
bigfoot forums on the bigfoot forums
82:41
there’s
82:42
a few different camps of what people
82:45
believe bigfoot actually is
82:47
some believe that he is a hominid some
82:49
sort of
82:50
missing link between people and apes
82:53
others believe that he’s just a folklore
82:56
myth type deal and some think that he is
82:59
an interdimensional warrior
83:01
who has come here to protect the planet
83:03
what do you guys think
83:04
thank you i think he’s just met hicks
83:07
drunk wandering through the forest
83:09
i was gonna say matt hicks is probably
83:12
as good
83:13
the more i talk with matt hicks the more
83:15
i realize that he’s probably sasquatch
83:19
right i mean he is often he is often
83:23
wandering through the woods
83:25
bewildered and very ginger
83:32
yep
83:34
that’s probably matt hicks um so here’s
83:37
the next
83:38
question thanks for that political
83:41
question by the way
83:41
here’s from uh uh will mckelveen
83:46
will macklevene here on my personal
83:48
injury attorney
83:49
chris reynolds attorney at law anchor
83:52
calling moment
83:53
got it right damn it penny right he kind
83:56
of wrote
83:57
come on man have you seen biden’s tax
83:59
plan this is ridiculous
84:01
not to mention the stimulus crap that
84:03
he’s going to try and do
84:05
let’s just print more [ __ ] money out
84:06
of thin air it makes no sense
84:08
anywho hope y’all are doing well been a
84:11
while since i’ve called in but
84:13
either way love y’all have a good day
84:17
and hashtag guy on phone
84:21
come on man come on man come on man
84:24
about me
84:24
come on man pop was a bad dude cold rob
84:27
was bad dude
84:28
he ran with a bunch of bad boys yeah no
84:30
brighton’s a tax plan
84:31
is um awful um
84:35
currently i am sitting in the studio at
84:39
time code production
84:40
um and fantastic guys like four
84:43
four people own and run this company
84:46
uh they do everything that this company
84:50
uh needs they they’re the writers
84:52
they’re the people who shoot it they’re
84:53
people who produce it the people who
84:55
sell
84:55
either four people do everything for
84:58
this company
84:58
um and they are a fantastic video
85:02
uh creating an editing company uh so for
85:04
any of your video editing needs go to
85:07
timecodeproduction.comcodeproduction
85:08
yep but today they were talking about
85:12
biden’s tax plan before the show and
85:15
they were
85:15
very concerned about some of the
85:17
increases that they
85:19
as a small business were going to be
85:21
seeing
85:22
and coming off of a pandemic um
85:26
coming off of a pandemic uh where it was
85:29
hard to
85:30
sell video a lot of people didn’t need
85:32
video done
85:33
right right but they you know they
85:37
they’ve continued to to make it
85:40
throughout
85:40
all of this and then they’re going to
85:42
get hit with a higher tax bill should
85:44
this tax
85:45
uh should the should this tax plan go
85:48
through
85:48
and that that scares them like that
85:51
obviously it scares them it
85:53
should it absolutely should um
85:57
and it should for anybody that’s a small
85:59
business owner and it should for anybody
86:00
that’s a corporation
86:02
uh because these taxes are going to go
86:04
up for
86:05
literally everybody which will increase
86:07
the cost of everything
86:08
for everybody yep
86:14
yeah no yeah i mean i did i yeah
86:17
there’s this is one of those things
86:19
where
86:21
there’s just nothing redeemable about it
86:23
so like you know there’s some stuff with
86:24
biden like
86:25
okay uh he’s uh repealing the the muslim
86:28
ban
86:29
great uh his immigration plan seems to
86:32
be somewhat better than trump’s although
86:33
deportations have gone up so that’ll
86:35
remain to be seen if it’s all
86:37
just you know changing window dressing
86:39
but not really changing anything but at
86:40
least the tenor and tone of it sounds
86:42
like he’s gonna probably be a little bit
86:43
better on immigration but we don’t know
86:45
he’s more than likely going to be better
86:46
on trade not positive of that but
86:49
probably so he’s gonna gonna end the
86:50
trade wars which is it’s good for
86:52
american consumers and american workers
86:54
and american businesses
86:55
uh what else um
86:58
[Music]
87:02
gotta reinstate the iran uh nuclear deal
87:04
that’s probably a good thing
87:06
it’s pretty downhill after that and it
87:09
was mostly downhill with trump i mean
87:11
you’d have to look at the handful of
87:12
things he did
87:13
uh this plan is
87:16
everybody pays more in taxes and it’s
87:19
uh yeah it’s really bad
87:23
and and this is i mean when you say you
87:26
know which of the two parties is worse
87:28
on taxes
87:28
typically it’s the democrats that are
87:30
worse on taxes the republicans try their
87:32
best
87:33
to be bad too for some reason uh but the
87:36
the democrats typically like when it
87:38
comes to taxes
87:39
holy crap they just don’t even pretend
87:42
that you have a right to your money
87:44
and uh it’s pretty much a favor what
87:46
they let you keep
87:48
and um yeah i know it’s bad
87:51
come on man it’s been come on man come
87:53
on man so here is
87:55
corn pop was a lion dog face pony
87:58
soldier man
87:59
so here’s another one from billy pierce
88:02
howdy spike and matt billy pierce here
88:04
from houston texas hope you’re doing
88:06
well
88:07
listen there’s a lot of folks out there
88:08
right now that are finding themselves
88:10
politically homeless or
88:11
political orphans or ideologically
88:13
estranged from their previous movements
88:16
and uh it’s a great opportunity for us
88:18
to bring folks
88:19
in to the liberty movement in the
88:21
libertarian party
88:22
but like in true libertarian fashion
88:25
what we’re doing instead is arguing
88:26
amongst ourselves
88:28
often in full public view uh and it’s uh
88:31
it’s heartbreaking and a little bit
88:32
embarrassing because we don’t seem to be
88:35
able to
88:35
argue or disagree with one another
88:38
civilly
88:39
and uh and i find that problematic so i
88:41
was wondering the two of you
88:43
surely you don’t agree on everything how
88:45
do you handle uh things that you
88:47
disagree on and i’m talking about real
88:49
things
88:49
policy things oh this ideologies how did
88:52
the two of you disagree with one another
88:54
and still maintain a working
88:55
relationship can you give us some
88:57
examples and some advice
88:59
uh how to get along thanks guys he had
89:02
me and he had me in the first half i
89:04
thought he had forgotten he had already
89:05
asked a question
89:06
so yeah how do how do we how do you i’ll
89:09
let you start with this how do we how do
89:11
we deal
89:11
we don’t really disagree on a lot we
89:13
don’t really disagree on a whole lot
89:15
like we there there’s been a few things
89:19
over the course of two years
89:22
that we were slightly off on but not
89:25
like
89:26
minor minors really the biggest
89:28
disagreements we’ve had are like
89:29
predicting outcomes like and that’s not
89:32
really like disagreement like oh you’re
89:34
wrong it’s like
89:35
well uh i think in 2018 you thought that
89:38
the
89:39
uh the republicans were going to hold a
89:41
a slight majority in the s
89:43
in the house and i thought it was going
89:45
to be that the the democrats would hold
89:46
us
89:47
we ended up being both wrong the
89:48
democrats just completely swept it
89:50
um but so like that kind of stuff but do
89:53
we i don’t know that we have a
90:00
i mean the time you took your shirt off
90:02
during the campaign i was like oh what
90:03
are you doing
90:05
but you know it’s your campaign but
90:06
that’s not a political disagreement
90:08
we’re like what the hell are you doing
90:10
more than why did you do this
90:13
um yeah uh we really like legitimately
90:17
we don’t disagree on a
90:18
on a um and
90:22
if if ever there was i know on my end um
90:26
if ever there was a time that i did
90:28
disagree with spike
90:30
um usually by the time he explained his
90:33
position it was better than any
90:34
explanation i had for my
90:36
side and it just kind of i was like well
90:38
now we just agree on that i guess
90:40
is that why we agree on everything
90:42
because those rare times
90:44
we disagree um
90:47
those rare times we disagree by the time
90:49
i’m done you’re like
90:51
yes me too bit billy uh in the comments
90:54
billy said what about business decisions
90:56
and in business decisions um there’s
90:58
only been one thing that
90:59
i remember us really disagreeing on but
91:02
i did
91:02
let spike do it and we lost our like
91:06
button
91:07
because of it
91:11
we lost our like button on facebook
91:13
because he decided to go yang gang happy
91:15
one day
91:16
and uh we haven’t gotten we never got
91:19
that back
91:21
we never got that back so now so now i
91:24
defer to matt
91:25
on all business things yeah because
91:28
i said matt i got a fantastic idea i’ve
91:31
got about 250 yang gang memes
91:34
it was at the height of yang gang it was
91:36
when everyone was doing hiding gang
91:38
and he was like i think this is a bad
91:40
idea we don’t even support andrew yang
91:42
and i’m like yeah but
91:44
it’s viral so about 80 later
91:48
i lost the ability to post for 12 hours
91:51
and then we lost our like button
91:56
which we didn’t know we lost our like
91:57
button until months later when i was
91:59
talking to somebody
92:00
about the show and he goes i want to
92:01
like your page but i can’t
92:03
and i was like huh yeah
92:07
yeah and it explained why we went from
92:09
growing by like 2
92:12
000 likes a day to none to none
92:16
to none just a bunch of follows and even
92:18
then it was way down
92:21
um so so on business things
92:25
i i i differ but even on that most most
92:27
business stuff we even agree on like i
92:30
we really agree on a lot of stuff we
92:32
really agree on a lot of stuff that’s
92:34
part of the reason it has worked so well
92:37
yeah because
92:38
and when we do disagree it’s like really
92:40
minor stuff where we’re both like you
92:42
know what
92:42
just do it your way and the other one’s
92:43
like ah you just do it you’re and so we
92:45
end up just like compromising that
92:46
little
92:47
different bit like we really just don’t
92:49
watch now we’re gonna disagree on
92:50
everything
92:51
um but uh yeah so i i don’t know i i can
92:54
tell you
92:56
put it this way here’s another example
92:58
um
92:59
when i just disagree with someone in
93:01
general um
93:03
and matt can weigh in on this as well uh
93:05
i tend to look at where they’re coming
93:07
from
93:08
and also looking at the fact that i
93:11
may not know everything and that they
93:13
may have a good point
93:15
and so usually i i’m i think different
93:18
than a lot
93:19
when i’m having a very deep uh political
93:22
discussion or debate
93:23
as long as they’re doing it in good
93:25
faith i’m more than happy to like ask
93:27
questions and find out more about their
93:29
thoughts
93:29
and by the time they’re done explaining
93:32
it i may be like
93:33
oh yeah no i’m still right here i’m
93:34
gonna explain
93:36
you know why i why i think that you know
93:38
my way’s better or whatever
93:40
but by then i’ve built up a rapport
93:42
where i can do that or while they’re
93:43
talking i might be like
93:44
huh okay well then maybe that’s a good
93:48
point you know i
93:49
agree to disagree or you might be right
93:51
or whatever
93:53
um so that’s the way i handle that i’m
93:55
not i i don’t see a disagreement as
93:58
a reason to uh come to blows uh
94:01
or or or get personal or anything like
94:03
that i might be wrong
94:06
yeah yeah i go i wake up every day
94:10
i mean i’m i’m dating a jewish woman so
94:12
i wake up every day assuming i’m wrong
94:14
about something
94:15
um i should feel guilty about it and
94:18
should feel very guilty about it
94:20
um i love her though and she’s
94:23
my world um
94:24
[Laughter]
94:28
she makes my food and it is amazing i
94:31
was gonna
94:32
say you are i date a jewish woman who
94:34
cooks all my meals so here let me
94:36
let me let me trash talk
94:41
um oh yeah she can comment this week uh
94:45
but
94:46
um yeah so careful whenever i
94:50
for a short period of time um until she
94:52
threatens to murder me again
94:54
uh but whenever i go into a disagreement
94:59
like i know i don’t know everything
95:02
right um
95:03
if i’m disa i hate
95:06
losing but i know i don’t know
95:07
everything
95:09
so you have to do a good job convincing
95:13
me that your opinion is right
95:15
however i am willing to switch but it
95:19
hurts me on the inside to do it
95:22
because you’ve lost because i’ve lost
95:24
right
95:25
the way i look at it is either i’m right
95:28
now or i’m about to be right after you
95:31
explain something that makes more sense
95:34
than what i thought
95:35
and like i i just and maybe it’s from
95:38
the business
95:38
time that i’ve had with business but i
95:40
always saw losing or
95:42
failing as an opportunity to learn and
95:45
uh and you know it’s like one more one
95:48
more
95:48
puzzle piece you know that’s that was
95:51
missing that’s now
95:52
in place for how to be able to do it
95:54
successfully and i guess maybe i look at
95:56
it the same way with that i’m not you
95:58
know
95:59
the reason that i’ve evolved quite a bit
96:01
politically in the first place was
96:02
because i wasn’t really terribly married
96:04
to
96:05
uh ideas once i was uh uh
96:08
well maybe maybe the drugs changed me
96:10
too because once i was sober i was just
96:12
like yeah you know what you might be
96:13
right
96:13
and it kind of did that so
96:16
when i was on drugs that it was hard to
96:18
change my mind so here’s
96:19
uh here’s one more from uh from billy
96:22
pierce
96:23
howdy spikey matt billy pierce from i i
96:25
i’m wondering if the first 30 seconds of
96:27
this is going to be the exact same
96:29
but but then he’ll like flip it up on us
96:31
at the end anyway
96:32
houston texas here again colin to talk
96:34
to you about bigotry
96:36
bigotry is getting batted around a whole
96:38
lot online these days amongst
96:39
libertarians
96:41
seeing new people come into the movement
96:43
or come into the party
96:45
and uh some folks are worried about the
96:48
party being inundated
96:50
by bigots now bigotry is a funny word
96:52
everybody thinks they know what it means
96:54
nobody thinks that they’re a bigot um
96:57
but bigotry actually has a lot of
96:59
different definitions a lot of different
97:00
understandings
97:02
should we be allowing folks who hold
97:05
bigoted opinions to come into the party
97:08
and try to change their minds once
97:09
they’re here or should we be
97:11
gatekeepers and say you can’t come in
97:13
here until you
97:14
until you’re no longer a bigot is
97:16
bigotry allowable under libertarian
97:18
principles so long as it’s not
97:20
uh we don’t use force to enforce it
97:23
um and how do you understand bigotry
97:25
what’s your definition
97:27
thanks guys do you want to do this one
97:30
first or
97:32
so
97:35
my definition of bigotry uh is
97:40
thinking that you or a group of people
97:43
that you are a part of is better than
97:44
any other
97:46
like that basically essentially that’s
97:48
it um that
97:49
that’s my own personal definition um
97:52
and do i think that we should allow
97:55
people in
97:56
uh the libertarian party who have
97:58
bigoted ideas
98:02
i think that anybody who is saying we
98:06
need to keep
98:06
any group of people out has bigoted
98:09
ideas
98:14
and by this by the
98:17
by the textbook definition by the
98:20
textbook definition
98:22
yeah uh they have bigoted ideas um
98:26
i do think a lot of minds can be changed
98:28
by talking to people
98:30
um i think a lot of people have these
98:33
ideas
98:34
in their heads of what it is of what it
98:37
is they’re trying to keep out or what it
98:38
is you know
98:39
of people that they want to not see in
98:41
the party or whatever
98:42
um and even the people who are trying to
98:45
come in
98:46
who you know they might have bigoted
98:47
ideas against other groups
98:49
um but it’s about talking to them and
98:53
making them realize we’re looking at
98:55
individual rights we aren’t looking at
98:57
group rights
98:59
if you look at the individual if you
99:02
look at the individual and you say that
99:04
person deserves every right that
99:06
everybody else has then you can’t really
99:10
be bigoted against people
99:13
or groups of people because you’re
99:14
looking at them as an individual
99:18
i agree i agree so uh first of all um
99:21
corey arms asked spike did you go to
99:24
rehab no corey i actually just
99:26
um i went cold turkey and i had a couple
99:29
little minor slips in that time but
99:31
within a matter of
99:32
of pretty much by the end of about a
99:34
month’s time i was i was pretty much
99:36
clear
99:37
um of of taking anything and uh
99:40
and i i just am not uh you know i i i
99:43
i’m one of those people that have
99:45
thankful i’ve been very blessed that i
99:47
didn’t
99:47
uh you know have a desire to go back to
99:50
that or anything else um because i did
99:52
everything
99:53
and um allegedly i didn’t actually do
99:56
anything
99:57
you’re in south carolina i’m in south
99:58
carolina which has no statute of
100:00
limitations for anything
100:01
so i have no idea what drugs even are
100:04
but they sound terrible
100:06
um they sound awful uh so
100:09
someone actually posted the where is it
100:12
um
100:12
uh the definition fetcher jordan here
100:15
the definition of
100:16
uh bigotry in this when i when i googled
100:18
it it was the same thing
100:19
um a person who is obstinately or
100:22
unreasonably attached to a belief
100:24
opinion or faction especially one who is
100:26
prejudiced
100:27
against or antagonistic toward a group
100:30
or a person or people on the basis of
100:32
their membership
100:33
of a particular group so technically
100:36
i love you too technically if
100:40
you say i don’t want this a member of
100:44
this group or ideology
100:46
in my group you’re technically big
100:49
bigoted now when we use the word bigotry
100:52
we typically use it to mean people who
100:54
are intolerant
100:56
of you know people because of intrinsic
100:58
things that they can’t control so
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uh bigoted against women bigoted against
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um
101:04
uh gender and sexual minorities uh
101:07
bigoted towards uh
101:09
people of different colors and things
101:11
like that and so there were two
101:13
questions there one
101:14
is can bigotry exist in a libertarian
101:17
framework or society
101:19
and can um and then can how
101:22
you know what should we be doing if
101:24
there are people who have bigoted ideas
101:25
coming to the libertarian party
101:27
i will again say this and i can speak as
101:29
someone who came here
101:31
as a recovering neocon who still thought
101:33
that the military should probably turn
101:35
most of the middle east into glass
101:37
uh you know with nuclear weapons and who
101:39
had some pretty
101:41
garbage opinions on immigration too when
101:44
i first got here
101:45
i am glad that there are people
101:49
who instead of saying no get out you
101:51
don’t you know you still have some
101:53
some you know problematic and racist
101:55
borderline racist or at least bigoted
101:57
and certainly anti-authoritarian views
102:00
get out
102:01
that instead they said hey welcome here
102:03
here’s why your opinions are trash
102:05
and here’s why you’re here’s why we’re
102:07
right and here’s why you’re wrong
102:09
and that’s much better i’m here now
102:14
because i was welcomed and told why why
102:16
i was wrong
102:17
and i think we should be doing that
102:20
welcoming people now if someone’s coming
102:22
in they’re trying to
102:23
you know recruit for their clan or
102:24
something like that that’s one thing
102:26
i’m talking about people who
102:27
legitimately are coming to the movement
102:29
because they agree with a lot of what
102:30
we’re saying
102:31
it makes sense to them they recognize
102:33
they’re never going to get what they
102:34
want from republicans or democrats
102:36
they’re really starting to be
102:36
disillusioned with what they believe but
102:38
darn it
102:39
why do we got to let mexicans in and you
102:41
go hey welcome in
102:42
here’s why we gotta let mexicans in for
102:44
the same reason we just let you in
102:45
schmuck
102:46
and like this is how you can actually
102:49
get people
102:50
and and and bring them in if they
102:52
already agree with you on some things
102:54
you can then say hey great
102:55
here’s why we are consistent in thinking
102:58
that way about immigration
102:59
or about foreign policy or about
103:02
criminal justice or
103:04
whatever but you can’t have that
103:06
conversation
103:07
if you push them away they’re going to
103:09
go back to whatever they go to
103:10
also keep in mind most people are the
103:12
product of the media they consume
103:14
and their social circles so if you bring
103:17
them into your social circle
103:20
and expose them to your media muddy
103:22
waters media
103:23
their your media now you’ve changed
103:26
their opinion they start
103:27
to very few people come in with these
103:29
very strong you know political
103:31
philosophical underpinnings they come in
103:33
with kind of a hodgepodge of ideas that
103:35
mostly came from the media they consume
103:37
and their social network of of people
103:40
uh social safety social uh uh their
103:43
social
103:43
circle and network and so forth like so
103:46
become their new social
103:47
circle and expose them to better ideas
103:50
that’s my opinion on it the question as
103:52
to whether or not
103:54
bigotry can exist in a libertarian
103:56
society
103:57
in a libertarian society a bigot is not
104:00
a powerful person a bigot is just or
104:02
a racist is just a jerk um
104:06
and they don’t have the power to use
104:08
that against people
104:09
other than they can say you aren’t
104:10
welcome in my house okay well if you’re
104:12
a racist i don’t want to be in your
104:13
house but they can’t say
104:14
you’re not welcome in this entire
104:16
neighborhood or you have to only use
104:18
substandard uh
104:20
uh services you can’t use the same
104:22
services that the people i like can use
104:24
or
104:24
you’re not gonna be able to get a
104:25
mortgage or you’re not gonna be able to
104:27
get a job
104:28
instead they’re just saying hey i don’t
104:30
like you
104:31
and you can’t come over here to my house
104:33
and i don’t want you in my
104:35
hardware store and we go all right well
104:37
we all hate you too schmuck
104:39
and you know we don’t we don’t want to
104:40
have anything to do with you
104:42
that is you know the the example i
104:45
always use
104:46
uh adolf hitler as
104:49
a neighbor in a neighborhood is a prick
104:52
that everyone avoids
104:54
and tells their kids to stay off his
104:56
lawn because he’s an idiot
104:57
and a pic it’s crazy adolf hitler is the
105:00
head of the ho hoa
105:02
gives everyone headaches uh until
105:04
eventually they go okay we gotta get rid
105:06
of this hitler guy and replace him with
105:08
steve he’s a much better
105:09
uh he’s gonna make him much better hoa
105:11
president adolf hitler in charge of a
105:13
country
105:14
rounds up and kills tens of millions of
105:16
people and causes hundreds of millions
105:18
more to die
105:19
in a world war that he triggered in a
105:22
libertarian society we remove the power
105:24
from bad people so they’re just schmucks
105:26
that we can avoid
105:28
there’s yet a third question can someone
105:31
who is a libertarian
105:33
be a bigot and the answer to that is
105:35
that there is no such thing as 100
105:38
libertarian zero percent liberty it’s
105:40
all on a spectrum
105:41
to whatever degree you recognize the
105:43
self-ownership
105:44
and the personal autonomy and the
105:48
and the the uh the the right to not be
105:51
aggressed upon
105:52
of every individual person to whatever
105:55
agree
105:55
degree you agree with that is to
105:57
whatever degree you increasingly don’t
105:59
agree
106:00
with the idea well yeah but there are
106:02
certain people who
106:03
don’t deserve that or who just aren’t
106:06
good uh
106:07
or you know they’re prone to bad
106:09
behavior so we have to control them or
106:11
whatever
106:12
so can you be 85 percent libertarian and
106:16
50
106:16
15 bigoted sure can
106:19
is that a full libertarian no uh and
106:22
and to whatever degree they have bigoted
106:24
and racist views
106:26
that’s the part of them that isn’t
106:27
libertarian uh that’s how
106:29
how removed from you know full
106:31
libertarianism that they are
106:33
um which again is why we bring them in
106:35
and we and we convince them otherwise
106:37
i i think it’s a very troubling thing to
106:39
de-person
106:40
people because they have garbage ideas
106:42
they’re still people
106:43
they just have garbage ideas and if
106:45
they’re not actively trying to hurt you
106:47
bring them in and try to change their
106:48
mind and talk them off the ledge so they
106:50
don’t end up hurting someone
106:53
that’s what i think
106:57
and billy said a little about 10 minutes
106:59
ago in the comments
107:00
uh we can’t we can’t change people until
107:03
uh
107:03
they know that we care about them um and
107:06
that’s true
107:07
like yes nobody’s gonna change for
107:11
people that are gonna just brush them
107:14
aside
107:14
at any moment there’s no point
107:18
so if you show them that we care about
107:20
them as individuals as
107:22
just regular people then
107:26
they will start to see that they should
107:28
just care for individuals as people
107:30
and that will begin to spread and
107:36
some people are going to be like hey
107:39
this sucks i want to be a racist so they
107:41
leave so they leave
107:42
okay
107:45
okay good bye like that’s fine that’s
107:48
also fine
107:49
like you that was always allowed you
107:51
know when they go i’m
107:53
out of here i want to be right okay good
107:54
go be a racist like that’s not what
107:56
we’re about
107:56
uh and we’re glad that you got to hear
107:59
some ideas
108:00
um and uh hopefully you stop being a
108:02
prick
108:03
and and and the thing is whatever they
108:05
whatever seeds they leave planted in
108:07
their head even if they never fully
108:09
germinate they’re in there and maybe
108:10
they’ll be less of a
108:11
prick than they would have been without
108:13
it i don’t know but uh you know that’s
108:15
that would be my
108:16
now if someone’s being you know coming
108:17
in and they’re trying to threaten people
108:18
or they’re trying to be
108:19
you know like uh exclusionary and things
108:21
like that’s one thing you know if
108:23
they’re doing bad things then that’s one
108:24
thing but
108:25
uh yeah i i yeah i let’s be
108:28
let’s try to be nice to people someone
108:30
asked a very interesting justico
108:31
mitchell
108:32
says can you be a libertarian and a
108:35
determinist
108:36
which is a very interesting question a
108:38
determinist for those who don’t know
108:40
and i’m probably butchering this
108:41
somewhat but a determinist believes that
108:43
everything
108:44
that is going to happen has already been
108:47
predetermined so like
108:49
mo a lot of christians and a lot of
108:52
muslims and even some jews believe
108:53
everything’s already been set
108:55
and we’re just basically watching it
108:57
unfold completely powerless to change it
108:59
one way or another
109:01
well libertarianism exists within that
109:03
so yeah
109:08
you may believe it’s already all
109:09
determined but
109:12
i guess you’re not libertarian in a
109:13
philosophical sense because you don’t
109:15
believe in free will
109:16
uh but you i guess de facto can be a
109:19
libertarian because you
109:20
can determine that you always were
109:22
determined to let people do whatever
109:24
they were gonna do
109:28
maybe i don’t know probably the best
109:31
answer but
109:32
uh so here is we have one
109:35
from matt hicks and matt absolutely not
109:40
literally not and i think we actually
109:42
got
109:43
booted it looks like we’re back now
109:47
i don’t think anyone was able to hear
109:49
that
109:55
but no we don’t want to see that no we
109:57
absolutely don’t want to see that
110:00
we do not but thanks for
110:03
thanks for thank you no no thank you uh
110:06
so here is our last question
110:08
from every single every single person is
110:10
like you were booted
110:11
heard nothing and trust me everybody
110:13
it’s for the best
110:14
yeah i know you different definitely
110:17
it’s just
110:18
no we don’t want to have that life i
110:20
don’t want that
110:22
this is what everyone thought the hot
110:25
dog story would be
110:27
this is kind of worse than that yeah
110:29
this is worse
110:32
so here’s our last one personal injury
110:35
attorney chris reynolds here with some
110:37
biden bits
110:39
so as we’ve had the first
110:42
uh little bit of
110:45
the new biden presidency and
110:48
some of the choices made for cabinet
110:51
positions
110:52
um some of the executive orders that
110:55
that he signed and um some of the
110:59
things that he’s indicated that he wants
111:00
to accomplish
111:02
um it kind of got me thinking um
111:06
you know all the different things that
111:09
he’s doing that that are different and
111:10
kind of probably the the tough decisions
111:12
that that he’s having to
111:14
to make so i wanted to hear from um you
111:17
guys especially spike if possible um
111:20
what he thought of the packers decision
111:24
to kick a field goal with two minutes
111:27
remaining
111:28
and never getting the ball back and
111:30
essentially losing the game thanks
111:35
he’s gone for months
111:40
it’s his segment it’s his segment
111:44
which means that we can never not play
111:46
his questions of course but it’s always
111:49
this
111:49
i know i um i don’t even know i it
111:52
sounds
111:52
terrible chris i don’t
111:56
so i was why i was i was watching the
111:58
game with
111:59
personal injury attorney chris reynolds
112:00
attorney at law he was sitting oh okay
112:02
he was sitting to my left um oh he was
112:06
guy on right
112:07
yeah yeah he was guy on right wow
112:10
hashtag chris on right
112:12
yeah yeah um but yeah we we were
112:15
watching the game together
112:16
and um
112:19
the the packers were down at like the 15
112:22
or 20 yard line
112:23
um with about a little over two minutes
112:26
left and
112:27
he said um yeah it was a little over two
112:30
minutes left and
112:31
he he said you have to go for the
112:33
touchdown here
112:34
um you absolutely need to go for the
112:36
touchdown i said no you just go for the
112:38
field goal and you really want your
112:39
defense you get points on the board and
112:41
then you just really want your defense
112:43
to uh to hold them um
112:46
and he said now you really do you got to
112:49
go for the touchdown and they kicked the
112:50
field goal
112:51
and then the packers never got the ball
112:52
back and ended up losing
112:54
um so
112:57
i am certain that uh that was where
113:01
that question stemmed from but should
113:04
the packers have gone for a touchdown
113:06
maybe if they didn’t get it everybody
113:08
would say they should have gone for the
113:09
field goal and tried to stop them
113:11
they put the points on the board and
113:13
then their defense just wasn’t able to
113:14
uh
113:15
stop stop i almost said the patriots
113:18
that’s not right tom brady
113:20
uh stopped the tampa bay bucks so
113:26
so yeah i don’t know so
113:29
it is being demanded that we replay matt
113:33
and as matt just said you’re all going
113:36
to regret this but you wanted this so
113:38
here we go
113:40
hopefully we get knocked off again tour
113:43
audio only we apologize because you’re
113:46
now going to hear this twice
113:47
you’re going to hear this twice because
113:49
because the the live people
113:51
demanded to get punished
113:54
anyway i’ll play they’re feeling bigoted
113:56
against well hello there
113:57
guy on left and spike cohen and special
114:00
guest kingsley edwards this is
114:02
matt hicks calling in on the personal
114:04
injury attorney chris reynolds attorney
114:06
at law anchor call in moment tm
114:09
uh i just have one question for you
114:10
tonight this is the only call you’re
114:11
going to get from me
114:13
so i had a doctor’s appointment
114:14
yesterday and apparently i’ve got to get
114:16
a colonoscopy
114:17
now in case you don’t know what that is
114:20
they give me this stuff that i call [ __ ]
114:22
juice that i have to drink and then it
114:23
makes me [ __ ]
114:25
and then i go in the next day and they
114:26
jam an hd camera up my ass and pump me
114:29
full of air like a balloon animal
114:31
and uh my question for you guys is
114:35
would you like me to see if they can
114:37
live stream it for you
114:39
laser legend no no no
114:43
still no still no so now you guys have
114:46
gotten to experience that
114:48
and uh
114:55
no so folks the show’s over now what it
114:59
would have
114:59
what an ideal fitting for this show
115:01
right ending for this show um
115:04
yeah we were going to go into uh biden’s
115:06
example oh and
115:07
now they want us to live stream matt’s
115:11
no that would get us kicked off of
115:13
everywhere but float.up
115:15
that would get me i would get i would
115:17
kick myself off of this
115:19
right yeah that would get us kicked off
115:20
float is that what you want
115:25
uh we were gonna go into biden’s
115:27
executive orders but uh
115:28
it’s now 10 o’clock and i now have a job
115:31
that i have to get up for in the morning
115:32
yeah so so but so long story short biden
115:37
signed a bunch of executive orders
115:38
they’re pretty much
115:39
all terrible
115:42
yep they are pretty much there’s like a
115:44
couple that aren’t terrible
115:45
but they’re mostly terrible but you
115:47
already knew that so
115:49
folks thanks again for tuning in to this
115:51
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115:59
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117:48
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america great again
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free free free respect quickly
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reach respect please don’t lose that
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respect the movement we started is just
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beginning
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to serve as your president has been an
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honor beyond description
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i had not spent my career as a
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politician and perhaps
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most importantly of all thousands of
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people came out with their families i
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knew that they did not just come out for
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me
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it deeply moved me they came out to show
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me their support had love for
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me i did not seek the easiest course
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i did not we did what we came here
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to do please don’t
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lose that respect the world respects us
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again
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please don’t lose that respect make
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america great again
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free free free respect free three three
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three free respect
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please don’t lose back respect the
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movement we started is just beginning
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so i left behind my former life and
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stepped into a very difficult arena
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now as i leave the white house we must
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never forsake our beliefs in america
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i fought for you i support your family i
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vote for
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our country above all i fought for
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america
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strong proud and free we extend our best
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wishes
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and we also want them to have luck have
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luck
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a very important word please
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don’t lose that respect the world
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respects us again
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please don’t lose that respect make
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america great again free free free
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respect
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quickly please
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don’t lose bad respect


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