Trump incited Schumer’s erection, Spike falls victim to fact checking on a personal level, AOC is afraid of her colleagues across the aisle, and wants to open programming camps. Kingsley Edwards from http://Flote.app joins us to discuss his platform and all that is happening with it since the new year, and we delve into Biden’s executive orders.
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we embarked on
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a mission to make america great again
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for all americans as i conclude my term
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as the 45th
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president of the united states we did
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what we came here
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to do well it’s about please
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don’t lose that respect the world
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respects us again
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please don’t lose that respect make
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america great again
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free free free respect three three three
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three three free respect
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please don’t lose that respect the movie
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we started
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i had not spent my career as a
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politician and perhaps
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most importantly of all thousands of
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people came out with their families i
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knew that they did not just come out for
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me it deeply moved me
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they came out to show me their support
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had love for me
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i did not seek the easiest course i did
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not
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we did what we came here to do
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please don’t lose that respect the world
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respects us again
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please don’t lose that respect make
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america great again free free free with
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respect
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quickly three three three respect please
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don’t lose back respect the movement we
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started is just beginning
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so i left behind my former life and
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stepped into a very difficult arena
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now as i leave the white house we must
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never forsake our belief
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in america i fought for you i support
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your family i vote for
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our country above all i fought for
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america
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strong proud and free we extend our best
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wishes
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and we also want them to
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a very important word please
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don’t lose that respect the world
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respects us again
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please don’t lose that respect make
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america great again
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breathe
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please don’t lose back respect the
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movement we started is
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just beginning
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so
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good morning good afternoon or good
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evening and
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welcome to the vanguard spike
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of the yengala yang twins cohen i am
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matt
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wright and together we are traversing
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the muddy waters of
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freedom i don’t even get that one
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yingala i learned it from um
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i learned that word from uh hunters and
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uh
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it means young boy oh
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in yiddish okay well hey folks thanks
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again for tuning in to this episode
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matt are they are they seeing the
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graphics this this is
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completely different for how we usually
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do it
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they’re seeing the graphics you guys
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can’t okay i know i feel like i’m
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missing out on something
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yeah no see usually you can but
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did you just say that they can use the
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green one but we don’t have a graphic up
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uh yeah no no no they can they can they
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can see it
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unless they’re listening to the podcast
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and they definitely cannot see it
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yes that’s accurate and god bless
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all of you people who continue to use
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the podcasting
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platform um
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we definitely appreciate it there’s a
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cat there’s a cat now we have a cat
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this is gonna be one of those shows
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that’s good now that’s the official cat
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of muddy waters um
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now we’re going to start uh well do you
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want to
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let’s introduce king first and then
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we’ll and then we’ll go to uh
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to the rapid-fire segment kingsley we
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have kingsley edwards who is
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uh one of the uh uh one of the half of
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the king
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kingsley and aaron edwards dynasty uh
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that are creating the
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uh flow app tell us about yourself and
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tell us about float man
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yeah so thanks for having me on here big
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fans of you guys and you guys were like
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pretty early flow users so i appreciate
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all the support and uh
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and i think now i’ve sent you some btc’s
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super chats on there
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for a while now since yesterday it was
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even lower than uh lower than 10
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000 so those are you know probably
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tripled or
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in value or more they have yeah so
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you’re welcome
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but uh not those yeah but uh but yeah
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i’m uh you know
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uh entrepreneur been in the crypto space
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since 2013.
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uh float is like my let’s see like third
09:23
company um in in tech and i’ve always
09:26
been focused on on crypto
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um we also run my wife and i we we run
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the las vegas bitcoin meetup since 2014
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we launched float in uh july 2019
09:37
so yeah excited to be here like you know
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good times for us because
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of what’s happening in crypto obviously
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with flo uh vote for people that don’t
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know
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we’re a social network we support free
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speech i know how controversial
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and um and we also we have crypto
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integrated so what that means is that
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basically we’re connecting you know
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people online with their social
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identities
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and then we but you can remain you know
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anonymous on on float
10:03
but as far as the the payments uh
10:04
channels they’re they’re peer-to-peer so
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what i mean by that is you know i think
10:08
aaron she just actually sent you guys
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another 10 bucks in btc
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as a super chat on the live stream on
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float and you get 100 of that where
10:15
youtube takes 30
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we also have like a patreon model where
10:19
you can post uh exclusive contents
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for members that subscribe to you for
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monthly fee uh that you choose
10:26
and we got all the other social media
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type stuff right now so
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this year it’s uh yeah this year’s gonna
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be big we went from a
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team of like three people when we
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launched and now we have over 15 and
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we’re still growing
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so lots that is awesome lots on the road
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yeah
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that is awesome so and also to let you
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know
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the quality of the live video so if you
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want to watch this live go to float dot
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app slash muddied waters media
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slash live or if you’re on float just go
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to muddy waters media and you’ll see
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that we’re live there’s like a icon for
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to watch our live video and the quality
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of the stream
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on float is so much better
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than on uh because it’s just a straight
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rtmp feed
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so it’s much better than on youtube it’s
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way better than on facebook
11:11
uh just the both the video and audio
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quality
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is at like a hundred times better than
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facebook and
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probably ten times better than on
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youtube so
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uh just definitely a better experience
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all the way around so
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thanks for joining us we we we’re happy
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to have you on yeah
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thanks for having me um yeah i mean just
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as far as the the feed is concerned
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that they’re going live you know like
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yeah right now we don’t we don’t
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compress anything so
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um which which can be a problem we’re
11:37
gonna add actually options so that
11:38
people can compress it if they have you
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know
11:41
worse internet internet speeds but um
11:43
but right now yeah it works
11:44
it works pretty well when you do have
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great internet
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yeah yeah it is from the very first live
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stream that we did
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on float which that god i don’t even
11:55
remember when that was that
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that means that may have been the one
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that we did exclusively on float
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yeah it’s been like probably a year it’s
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been well over a year
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because we’ve been i’ve been uh it
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started before i i ran for the
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nomination for vice president and that
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was over a year ago now
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it was so we had done we had done the uh
12:15
democratic debate
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and we pulled off youtube we got pulled
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off youtube and facebook for
12:22
stealing the democratic debate and so we
12:24
started doing them exclusively we
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started doing it on float yeah
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yeah we so we were doing exclusive live
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streams on float
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that was the last summer that was two
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summers ago
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oh wow yeah yeah yeah i think it was
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like september yeah yeah it’s like
12:38
september of 19
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that we started doing live streams on
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float and then we figured out how to
12:43
uh add it to the restream so that way we
12:45
could do all of them
12:46
and float is by far the best experience
12:49
that anybody can possibly get
12:52
easily and you won’t get knocked off or
12:54
fact checked and we could talk more
12:56
about that later
12:57
because i’m still bitter um and uh
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it’s just it’s just a better experience
13:01
all the way around go check out float
13:03
it’s on in it’s on the google play store
13:05
it’s on the
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apple so we actually we took ourselves
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off
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yeah we actually took ourselves off of
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uh for uh
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the i i was it apple store itunes
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app store oh okay and uh because
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because right now we’d have to like our
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our ios app was actually the worst
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performing with us because we just
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haven’t been able to put a lot of
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time and resources into it so we’ve seen
13:29
what happened with parlor and we know
13:31
all what’s kind of coming down
13:32
down the you know down the lane um with
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as far as big tech censorship and all
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this craziness
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um we just decided hey you know we’re
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not we’re just gonna we’re just gonna
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try to inform our ios users to
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make a shortcut onto their home screen
13:46
from their browser
13:47
which you know it’s basically still one
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click and it just opens your browser
13:50
it’s the same thing yeah
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yeah yeah okay versus yeah doing this
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because or else we’re gonna spend you
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know
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like a hundred thousand dollars on the
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map that they’re just gonna kick off
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anyway
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that they’re gonna kick off because you
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allow free speech okay so they’re not on
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the
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apple whatever but they are on uh google
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play and uh and you can and like he said
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you can just create a shortcut to the
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browser and uh
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it’s the same interface i did that the
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day that they said something i think
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they posted something on instagram
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saying this is how you do it and i just
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immediately went and did it and it works
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even it works better than the app did
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yeah
14:24
yeah absolutely our app was definitely
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lacking then yeah so yeah so
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it’s a much better experience and then
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again then we’re not gonna have to go
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through all this drama there’s
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so many apple makes you uh jump over so
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many hoops just to get
14:35
your your app listed uh on their store
14:38
anyway
14:39
so and plus and plus we integrate crypto
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as well so we’re just you know there
14:43
we would just be once you know once we
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were we’re continuing to grow and once
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we got to a certain number they would
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they’re gonna kick you off
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yeah they’re they’re gonna have a major
14:51
problem with you having
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a free platform yeah um so yeah i know
14:56
it’s really cool so if you guys you guys
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that have all that
14:58
bitcoin you’ve been hodling and you’re
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looking for something to
15:02
to invest it in we are that fertile
15:05
soil for your
15:11
bitcoin um so um
15:14
king we somebody asked a question they
15:16
they want to know what web hosting
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service float uses and
15:19
like i i assume what he’s saying is how
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how and how much dangerous it’s being
15:24
taken down because like
15:26
that’s what happened with parlor yeah so
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so i will say i don’t like to
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uh say who it is directly at but we are
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actually moving off of because of what
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parlor
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and our current uh hosting provider they
15:37
did release a public statement saying
15:38
that they agree with it so
15:40
we’re actually moving our service over
15:42
uh right now we’re in a transition phase
15:44
to get it over to uh to a much uh better
15:47
and reliable company
15:49
that i i’ve know i know one of the
15:50
owners actually for over 10 years he’s a
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ron paul guy
15:53
he’s got servers all over the u.s and uh
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and we are going to uh we’re going to be
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moving in that direction
15:59
uh this this month well probably you
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know we’ll probably finish it
16:02
next month but yeah that’s you know
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something we’re basically we
16:06
you know once that happened we all knew
16:07
this was coming down the line it’s just
16:08
man they’re
16:09
going so fast it’s hard to keep up right
16:11
so um
16:12
so we basically you know we’ve shifted
16:14
that kind of on our agenda to to figure
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out you know where we’re at risk
16:18
and which providers we’re on right now
16:20
if they’ve released any statements as
16:21
far as you know
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free speech is bad okay and uh
16:25
and then you know if anybody has
16:27
released anything bad like that or if
16:28
they have any history of censorship
16:30
uh which we already you know we already
16:32
know uh then we’re you know we’re going
16:34
back to
16:35
to other people or finding other else
16:37
resources in companies
16:38
that believe in free speech and even
16:41
coming up with you know backup names on
16:42
top of that just in case
16:44
because man it’s like a battleground out
16:46
there what’s going on people
16:47
it’s uh yeah no it’s it’s it’s become a
16:50
nightmare and and and the problem is
16:52
like even if you create your own out uh
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your own
16:56
uh platform you know you’re now looking
16:58
or you thankfully you found it you now
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have
17:00
are having to transition because you’re
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not on aws but
17:04
you’re on another host that may decide
17:05
they don’t like free speech either
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and so you got to be on one so you got
17:09
to make sure that even your hosting
17:11
uh is uh is is you know in favor of
17:13
freedom of speech and your
17:15
your domain registrar and everything
17:16
else it’s just crazy
17:18
you also have to worry that amazon could
17:19
just buy that company at any moment
17:22
yeah yeah it’s yeah it’s like just you
17:24
know keeping your finger on the pulse
17:26
um but you know i i keep saying this now
17:29
in a bunch of different podcasts but
17:31
it’s like yeah right now is the time
17:32
where
17:32
there’s basically people are like
17:34
drawing a line in the sand and it’s like
17:36
do you agree with
17:37
basic human rights and freedom of speech
17:40
and or do you not
17:41
and so i you know i think it’s kind of
17:43
good though in a way we’re kind of
17:45
ripping off the band-aid
17:46
and we’re shedding some light on uh the
17:49
commies i guess that have been uh hiding
17:50
under
17:51
their their corporate you know shield
17:52
for so long and
17:54
um and honestly i want to do business
17:56
with good people and we should all want
17:57
to do good
17:58
uh give you know do business exactly
18:02
so i’d rather i’d rather know it’s just
18:03
you know kind of the same thing with
18:04
like the whole civil rights thing
18:06
uh i i want to know if someone’s a
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racist you know whatever
18:09
shop owner or whatever um so i i just
18:12
don’t understand this whole thing with
18:13
like government trying to hide that type
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of stuff
18:15
but uh because i don’t you know i don’t
18:16
want to get i don’t give my money to
18:17
those people
18:18
so so now it’s kind of like that’s
18:20
happening now in tech
18:21
and uh honestly like i appreciate it and
18:24
it’s actually kind of
18:25
forcing us to make decisions now that we
18:27
would have just delayed you know till
18:28
later we were actually on aws
18:31
uh in the beginning and then we we uh
18:33
transitioned over
18:34
well first because we knew that we
18:35
didn’t want to rely on big tech
18:37
but also because uh we we’d i just no
18:39
reason why we were
18:40
on there anyways because i had ad credit
18:41
or not ad credits but server credits
18:43
from boost vc which is the startup
18:45
accelerator we went through
18:46
so i used those up so i thank you amazon
18:49
and then we we moved over
18:50
now we have to move again unfortunately
18:51
but you know so be it
18:53
it’ll be better actually it’s going to
18:54
be much better we’ll have much more
18:56
service and yeah that’s good that’s good
19:00
that you
19:00
are that you’re staying ahead of the
19:01
curve on that and i have
19:04
speaking of being ahead on the cur i
19:06
have no segue for this
19:07
this is now we’re not going to go into
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yeah so uh newly minted senate majority
19:36
leader chuck schumer
19:38
was giving a talk on the senate floor
19:40
about the impeachment trial that was
19:42
starting
19:43
i think that started today yeah yeah
19:45
we’re going to say that
19:47
the impending impeachment trial of trump
19:48
and um he said that senators were going
19:50
to have to
19:52
the senate will conduct a trial of the
19:55
impeachment of donald trump
19:57
it will be a full trial it will be a
19:59
fair trial
20:01
but make no mistake there will be a
20:04
trial and when that trial ends
20:06
senators will have to decide if they
20:08
believe
20:09
donald john donald john trump incited
20:12
the erection
20:14
insurrection against the united states
20:19
i think the thing i hate the most about
20:22
donald
20:22
trump is
20:25
the the erection the
20:28
the fact that he incited chuck schumer’s
20:32
erection
20:34
because the mental image of chuck
20:35
schumer
20:37
walking around at half-mast
20:41
i was didn’t
20:44
think specifically of him he was the one
20:47
that said it like that was a
20:48
no i know yeah you guys should uh
20:51
should get uh blue chew to be a sponsor
20:58
after this we probably can yeah
21:04
so that happened and
21:08
so now we’re gonna see this impeachment
21:10
and i
21:12
personally think that they’re not going
21:14
to convict trump
21:15
because a you need a two-thirds majority
21:17
to do it
21:18
and b the best thing that joe biden has
21:22
going for him is that he’ll probably be
21:23
running against donald trump in 2024
21:26
and if you take that off the table he
21:29
can’t just run on not being trump
21:31
right so i don’t i don’t see that
21:33
changing
21:35
so at the beginning of the at the senate
21:37
uh hearing today
21:39
uh rand paul called for a vote on who
21:42
thought that that the trial was
21:44
constitutional
21:46
and the final count was 55 to 45.
21:49
45 republicans voted no this is not
21:51
constitutional
21:52
you need 17 to switch you’ve got five
21:54
that already did
21:56
so you would need 12 more so instead
21:59
of uh going for a full impeachment on
22:01
him they’re trying to
22:02
talk people into centering him
22:06
which does that that means nothing it
22:09
means nothing it’s just they want to say
22:11
he was the first
22:12
to have this happen
22:15
it’s a strongly worded letter it’s
22:17
alright
22:19
donald trump this just go ahead no go
22:22
ahead oh sorry i was just going to say
22:23
it was just so funny during that day
22:24
when this erection happened and uh and i
22:28
was just i was like i’m too busy like
22:29
i’m out
22:30
i i you know like i got we’re building
22:33
flow we’re doing a lot of things we got
22:34
floatfest uh coming up in a couple
22:35
months too
22:36
and um and i was just like i was on
22:39
calls all day and i was getting updates
22:41
from everybody that’s something on
22:42
you know on on the calls is telling me
22:44
you know what’s going on and bob and
22:45
they’re like oh
22:46
now there’s a guy on the senate floor
22:48
with a you know a ox head or something
22:50
like that and i was like yes
22:51
yep what i was like it’s probably best
22:53
that i just don’t pay attention to this
22:54
but
22:55
crazy yeah no it was go ahead
23:00
so i i’ve i just started a new job a
23:02
couple of weeks ago like three weeks ago
23:04
and um i was it was like my first is my
23:07
second day
23:08
there and my phone just started buzzing
23:10
non-stop with people messaging me
23:13
and i’m like i’m not supposed to look at
23:15
my phone and
23:17
then eventually i was like i gotta see
23:19
what’s happening and people were like
23:20
there’s an erection happening in
23:21
washington dc
23:23
and i was and i was i was like well
23:27
i know that i’m not like at my new job
23:29
but i’m also going to watch this
23:32
yeah direction on tv you got to tune in
23:35
right you gotta watch yeah well
23:36
especially on
23:36
yeah when it’s on all the the channels i
23:39
i was
23:40
originally going to take the day off
23:42
until
23:43
later that day i was gonna recap what
23:46
happened with the
23:47
with the the uh certification that was
23:50
happening in congress
23:51
and then when i heard about the erection
23:53
i realized that you know
23:55
that i was gonna have to follow that
23:56
because people my
23:58
my inbox was blowing up uh about
24:01
the erection and uh and so i i had i had
24:04
to make my official
24:05
uh response to it uh so um speaking of
24:10
my official
24:13
response i i’m not i’m terrible for
24:16
segways today what
24:18
so
24:22
so uh libertarian vice presidential
24:24
nominee
24:25
spike cohen uh made a statement
24:28
on i believe facebook um and
24:32
he ended up getting a well he posted
24:35
this on facebook
24:36
and he ends up getting a false rating
24:39
from politifact
24:40
for saying uh john brennan called
24:43
libertarians terrorists
24:45
yeah so i i wrote a silver lining to the
24:47
biden administration labeling
24:48
libertarians terrorists
24:50
is that the cia will probably start
24:52
giving us money and weapons now
24:54
and the it’s a good one
24:57
which is i mean it’s accurate if we are
24:59
labeled a terror group
25:01
if passed is prologue we’re probably
25:03
going to get some really sweet equipment
25:05
and like those toyota
25:06
hilux uh uh uh pickup trucks and stuff
25:10
like it was gonna be a whole thing
25:11
and so politifact was not happy at all
25:14
uh they actually contacted me and asked
25:17
if i had proof of my joke
25:20
being true and i said
25:23
no because it’s a joke and they said
25:26
okay but what evidence do you have of
25:28
your joke and i said i
25:30
the evidence is that i said it it’s a
25:32
joke and uh and so
25:34
in response i said you know this was a
25:36
joke i find it hilarious that you’re
25:37
fact checking it
25:38
so um let me know when the fact check
25:41
comes out so i can make fun of that too
25:43
and um and so it did come out but they i
25:46
feel like i’m
25:47
at least somewhat vindicated because
25:48
they only rated it partially false
25:51
because the cia the cia does give money
25:54
and weapons to terrorists
25:56
so that’s only impartial their statement
25:58
no that’s mine
26:00
and i i’m not sure why it was only
26:03
partial
26:04
we’re gonna get we’re gonna get fact
26:06
checked on this episode
26:07
i mean so for anybody who doesn’t know
26:10
where the where this came
26:11
this was in response to the brennan
26:12
quote right yes
26:14
right and to which i’m certain almost
26:16
everybody who watches the show has
26:18
seen or heard this quote already but
26:21
we’re going to read it anyway
26:22
um john brennan said i know looking
26:25
forward that the members of the biden
26:27
team who have been nominated or have
26:28
been appointed
26:30
are now moving in laser-like fashion to
26:32
try to uncover as much as they can
26:35
about what looks very similar to
26:37
insurgency movements
26:38
that we’ve seen overseas these would be
26:41
the people that they funded and given
26:43
weapons to
26:44
yes correct where they germinate in
26:46
different parts of a country
26:47
and they gain strength and it brings
26:50
together an unholy alliance
26:52
frequently of religious extremists
26:55
authoritarians
26:56
fascists biggest bigots racists
26:59
nativists even libertarians
27:02
because when you think of
27:06
freedom fighters or just
27:10
violent terror groups violent terror
27:12
yeah violent terror groups
27:14
you think of the non-aggression
27:16
principle following
27:18
libertarians what’s interesting is his
27:21
uh description here uh an unholy
27:23
alliance of
27:24
religious extremists authoritarians
27:27
fascists bigots racists nativists
27:29
even libertarians that’s congress he
27:32
just described congress
27:35
so i guess they’re well we already know
27:38
they get money from the federal
27:39
government so it would make sense so
27:41
i’m still holding out hope that we’re
27:43
gonna start getting
27:44
some weapons um unfortunately they’ll
27:46
probably like tell
27:48
the radicals that they’re to use it to
27:51
fight against the pragues
27:52
and then they’ll tell the prags to fight
27:53
against the radicals so we’ll probably
27:55
have to like agree to like cross our
27:56
fingers and agree to it or whatever but
27:59
um yeah so king king have you guys ever
28:02
been uh
28:02
fact checked on on any of the major
28:04
social media platforms
28:07
um yes i can’t think of any offhand
28:10
but yeah i mean i feel like it happens
28:12
that you know your grandmother
28:14
nowadays um it’s crazy and you know
28:17
i think aaron just got her like oh what
28:19
was that she got
28:20
she got like a i think maybe a 24-hour
28:22
ban or something like that some some
28:24
sort of
28:24
uh some sort of censorship on facebook
28:27
like
28:27
yesterday and then she posted about it
28:30
somehow and
28:30
about the band and then they got her
28:32
they dinged her for that too
28:34
so there’s a lot of no talking about
28:37
yours punishment
28:38
yeah there’s a lot of smart uh people
28:41
and big tech just building the best ai
28:43
that seems to be doing a great job and
28:45
so i just think we just
28:46
need to you know trust the plan and move
28:48
forward you know what i’m saying
28:49
just trust the plan slow the spread 14
28:52
days to slow the spread
28:55
it’s like q anon for big tech just yeah
28:58
just trust the plan
29:00
yes where we get censored one we get
29:02
censored
29:03
all right but uh but yeah i mean there’s
29:05
been there’s been times where
29:07
i’ve seen with my own eyes people
29:08
posting floats
29:10
uh the domain on uh youtube comments and
29:13
not getting taken down in real time
29:15
also in facebook messenger and not being
29:17
grayed out and like it you know can’t
29:19
send or won’t send or whatever
29:21
multiple people uh we definitely
29:24
witnessed some sort of shadow banning on
29:26
our on our float pages
29:28
uh first for certain things on facebook
29:31
i’m you know i’m assuming that we’re we
29:32
we just used
29:33
basically the big tech platforms to to
29:35
get our message out and try to
29:36
recruit some more people to pull people
29:37
in yeah right right yeah yeah um
29:40
but uh but yeah i mean you know i’m
29:43
surprised that you well what
29:45
matt i mean you’re are you do you did
29:47
you have your your normal account
29:48
reinstated now or are you saying no
29:50
no yeah my my normal account so my
29:53
normal account
29:54
uh i lost that back in
29:57
august or september i think i don’t
29:58
remember was it that long i thought it
30:00
was like october like november what was
30:02
it that long it might have been that
30:03
long ago
30:04
it was definitely before the election
30:06
that i lost it oh wow
30:08
okay yeah um i definitely lost it before
30:10
the election
30:11
um and then i definitely don’t if you’re
30:15
if anybody from facebook is watching i
30:16
don’t have another one
30:18
yeah sorry i don’t have another one but
30:21
if
30:22
i did you learned your lesson you
30:23
learned your lesson you’re not welcome
30:24
there you never came back
30:25
yeah right never came back and if i did
30:27
come back and uh i was using the
30:29
facebook app this weekend
30:31
i still don’t have access yeah
30:34
because yeah when they logged everybody
30:36
out and then some people still couldn’t
30:37
get in i am one of the people who can’t
30:39
get in
30:40
to or i would be one of the people who
30:43
if you had an account which you
30:44
absolutely do not
30:46
right which i do not listen i’m glad
30:49
that they removed you from facebook
30:50
because
30:51
i was sick and tired of seeing such
30:54
malicious propaganda that you were
30:56
spreading like pictures
30:58
of your food that your
31:01
girlfriend cooked for you and
31:06
cava and sarah’s
31:09
boys and other
31:13
similar agit prop and terrorism right
31:17
the super sappy look how great my
31:19
relationship is
31:20
posts it was too much they said enough
31:23
of that much
31:25
you you are you are pushing something
31:27
that we don’t push here at facebook
31:29
and that’s like good speaking yeah no
31:32
good lives here
31:33
speaking of of uh pushing
31:38
alexandra acacio cortez uh skipped
31:41
the inauguration because
31:44
republicans give her the old
31:46
heebie-jeebies matt
31:48
yeah uh she said that republicans make
31:50
her nervous and uh then she said
31:54
man i really should have put this in the
31:55
notes uh somebody tried to show up with
31:57
a gun
31:58
one of the republican senators tried to
32:00
bring a gun
32:01
uh to the house floor and she said if
32:04
somebody is showing up
32:05
here with a gun that means the rest of
32:09
us
32:09
are in danger showing that she doesn’t
32:11
understand
32:12
understand how guns work yeah how guns
32:14
work um
32:17
but she’s gonna wait till she hears
32:18
about the capitol police she’s gonna be
32:20
horrified
32:21
yeah but uh yeah so she ended up not
32:24
showing up to the uh
32:26
to the inauguration which many of the
32:28
democrats were upset about because it
32:29
was supposed to be
32:29
about unity and look the democrats are
32:31
behind biden and she
32:33
the poster child of the socialist
32:37
left did not show up i i like i saw one
32:40
meme after
32:41
it happened and it was like oh it sure
32:43
looks like a nice party for someone that
32:44
owes me two thousand dollars
32:46
[Laughter]
32:54
oh i like that i like she did
32:57
she did immediately follow up uh saying
33:00
that republicans made
33:01
her nervous um by saying she wanted to
33:04
start re-education camps for people that
33:06
she deems white supremacists
33:08
oh that definitely won’t end uh end
33:10
poorly so yeah at a
33:12
town hall on uh this past friday uh aoc
33:15
said that the house subcommittee on
33:18
civil rights
33:18
she serves on has held hearings over the
33:20
prior two years on white supremacy
33:23
and said that there are programs to
33:25
quote-unquote
33:26
do you radicalize the adherence of
33:31
white supremacy keep in mind
33:35
if you’re watching this facebook
33:36
probably thinks you’re a white
33:37
supremacist
33:39
even if you’re not white yes especially
33:41
if you’re not white
33:42
especially if you’re not white um
33:46
she said that there is a spectrum of
33:47
radicalization that ranges from
33:49
sympathizers to conspiracy theorists to
33:52
neo-nazis
33:54
i’m not sure if that’s the full full
33:57
spectrum
33:58
uh it’s quite a spectrum it is quite a
34:00
spectrum
34:02
such radical ideology could lead to
34:04
violence and domestic
34:05
terrorism you know like going
34:08
door to door to grab people and put them
34:10
in camps
34:13
that that would be an accurate example
34:15
of that so during the same appearance
34:17
uh she uh let everyone uh know where she
34:21
stood on free speech
34:22
uh by saying that it’s time to quote
34:24
figure out how we reign in our media
34:26
environment
34:27
so that you can’t just spew what she
34:29
considers to be disinformation
34:31
so if you were on facebook today or
34:34
twitter or
34:35
certainly anything that isn’t float
34:37
because this wouldn’t happen on float
34:38
if you were on some other social media
34:40
platform and you thought goodness
34:42
it’s too free here and i’m hearing too
34:46
many opinions
34:47
and i’m not seeing enough fact checks
34:50
and arbitrary bannings well
34:52
alexandra ocasio-cortez has some
34:54
fantastic news for you folks
34:58
and i would uh i would advise aoc just
35:01
in case she gets banned off of facebook
35:03
that here’s a shameless uh
35:04
plug you can download first of all it
35:07
takes two seconds to join float.com
35:09
second you can download your facebook
35:11
data and which map i wish we
35:13
i don’t think we have this built when
35:14
you got banned but you can download your
35:15
facebook data your posts pictures and
35:17
your videos all those cherish
35:19
moments with your loved ones and all
35:21
those memes and uh
35:23
and you can upload it to your your flip
35:24
account so that’s a pretty cool feature
35:26
that we
35:27
rolled out a couple months ago and um
35:30
and i hope that’s awesome you know
35:31
follows follows uh follows suit of many
35:34
others and joins float
35:35
and she can speak your mind there she
35:38
will immediately reach out to you to ban
35:41
us everyone else she’ll say this is
35:44
great i i noticed that there are some
35:46
people here
35:48
who are saying some things i really do
35:50
not like
35:51
so if you could do me a solid and kick
35:53
off
35:55
everyone else that would really help
35:58
uh but no she’s welcome she’s welcome to
36:00
join everyone’s welcome to join
36:02
um i’m surprised trump didn’t set up an
36:04
account there yet so he could
36:06
he could get his stuff out there what
36:08
what is he doing now
36:10
does he like newsletters or emailers or
36:12
what is he doing
36:13
i haven’t got like so i was on somehow i
36:15
ended up on a trump email list and
36:17
or just maybe it was a gop email list
36:20
i’m not a hundred percent certain right
36:22
yeah spam um but i haven’t gotten
36:25
anything from him i heard that
36:26
he did start an office of the former
36:29
president here in florida
36:31
um where that is where he’s going to be
36:33
conducting his official business as the
36:35
former president
36:37
can we just all like create these
36:38
offices like out of nowhere can i just
36:40
create the office of
36:42
future vice lord or something like that
36:44
i don’t know yeah no
36:45
at this point that would have every bit
36:47
as much authority as the office that
36:48
trump just created
36:50
like he just there is no such thing as
36:52
an office a former
36:54
pres he just made it and what i love is
36:56
that
36:57
yeah he just made it what he actually
36:59
did was he took the presidential seal
37:01
um but it just says former under it and
37:03
um
37:05
and what i love about it is the one that
37:07
i saw it was in grayscale
37:09
meaning that they didn’t get like uh uh
37:12
uh
37:13
either they didn’t get a color printer
37:15
or um or they
37:16
they forgot to fill the the the
37:19
they just have the black cartridge full
37:22
and um
37:23
and which either is equally plausible
37:25
with him so
37:26
we have that to look for he’s running in
37:28
2024. like i i
37:29
there’s no way he’s doing everything you
37:32
would do
37:33
he he his ego won’t let him not run
37:36
and it will be if you thought 2016
37:39
watching him destroy the the gop uh
37:42
competition then was funny
37:44
wait till you watch him destroy the
37:46
whole party
37:47
uh and uh that’ll that’ll be uh
37:50
pretty pretty interesting so kingsley
37:54
we have you know uh this is a perfect
37:57
example of of why
37:59
float is important and why your platform
38:01
is important
38:02
because according to
38:05
one of the more prominent members of the
38:07
party that’s in charge of congress right
38:09
now
38:10
the problem with media and social media
38:12
right now is that they aren’t doing
38:14
enough to fact check and ban
38:17
people and you know stop them from being
38:20
able to create groups and
38:21
you know and and and you know hyper
38:23
focus on every single thing they put out
38:25
that that the problem is they’re not
38:27
doing enough of that they need to be
38:28
kicking more people off of social media
38:30
and basically de-personing them in this
38:33
social media driven world that we live
38:35
in now
38:35
you know talk to us about
38:38
and we may have started on this but what
38:40
was it originally that led you to want
38:42
to do this in the first place
38:44
yeah um so i was actually developing a a
38:48
privacy wallet we actually got some
38:50
precedent funding to develop a privacy
38:51
wallet that was focused on
38:53
for crypto for those focus on like
38:54
monero zcash and other privacy protocols
38:57
but
38:57
then uh my wife and i we started
38:59
developing some uh
39:01
you know some friendships with content
39:03
creators that are on youtube
39:04
a lot of people that we all like know
39:07
and love and
39:07
you know and building up their youtube
39:09
audience since like the ron paul days or
39:11
even before that
39:12
you know getting to a hundred thousand
39:13
subscribers 250 000 subscribers 500 000
39:15
subscribers even a million subscribers
39:17
and you know they’re starting to make an
39:19
income uh from the youtube ads and super
39:21
chats and they’re following there
39:23
and they’re just really you know they’re
39:25
getting excited about what was going on
39:27
um and then all of a sudden boom you
39:29
know deep platform demonetize
39:32
uh strike one strike two you know no
39:34
strikes but you’re out
39:36
and we then we were like whoa okay this
39:39
is this is pretty crazy what’s going on
39:40
and just as a
39:42
former youtube fan myself and a fan i’ve
39:44
just you know
39:46
googled for research and and all these
39:48
big tech platforms that we’ve we’ve
39:50
known and loved for years until really
39:52
up until recently for the most part
39:54
um you know i just started noticing like
39:56
a lot of these independent journalists
39:57
that i that i’ve been following for
39:58
years they
39:59
were starting to have changed words that
40:01
they had to say
40:02
uh in order to cover current events that
40:04
cnn msnbc the mainstream media fox news
40:08
um you know they didn’t have to change
40:09
the words that they had to say and
40:11
just how like strange and orwellian that
40:13
is i mean this is like really this is
40:14
like affecting
40:15
you know human psychology and behavior
40:18
and
40:19
uh in 2018 i i actually tried to move
40:22
off of all the big tech platforms to
40:24
more like decentralized platforms or at
40:25
least like small tech platforms and
40:27
and i just noticed that they they
40:28
weren’t quite there yet and and then
40:31
once i recognized that these things were
40:32
happening to content creators
40:34
i realized that there was not only was
40:36
it the right thing to do to support free
40:37
speech but let’s create a platform where
40:39
also
40:40
they can earn uh uh money and in crypto
40:43
and
40:43
you know the next the future of money
40:46
right now
40:47
and so we uh yeah we developed we
40:50
developed float for that reason to
40:52
really you know our big focus is to help
40:54
content creators because they are the
40:55
ones that have these larger communities
40:57
on the social networks but
40:58
really just so everyone can still have a
41:00
voice and it’s not anything
41:01
that crazy i mean we’re really just
41:02
turning the clock back about five years
41:04
to what
41:05
you know youtube and facebook for the
41:07
most part stood for what they were
41:08
supposed to be yeah
41:10
right yeah and then you know the the
41:11
ethos of the internet was always
41:13
supposed to be just you know human
41:14
communication uh uncensorable
41:16
and and so here here we are and it’s you
41:19
know it’s it’s really
41:20
it’s really terrifying with like what’s
41:21
happening but there’s a business
41:22
opportunity
41:23
um i just hope you know in some ways
41:25
it’s before i used to kind of curse you
41:27
know
41:28
uh at every time i would hear about a
41:30
headline of facebook censoring people or
41:32
youtube doing this doing that but now
41:34
it’s like
41:34
hey they just keep shooting yes yeah
41:36
yeah yeah
41:37
okay go for it like piss off pewdiepie
41:40
some more you know whatever you got to
41:41
do
41:42
um because it just makes our you know
41:45
makes
41:45
our mission statement or what we’re
41:47
doing our goal uh just
41:49
so more obvious to so many more people
41:51
and as far as like the fact-checking
41:52
thing you know
41:53
we do have fact checkers actually
41:55
actually on our site um but we
41:56
we uh democratize the fact checking to
41:59
leave it up to the individual
42:00
to look into the facts themselves which
42:03
is crazy
42:04
i know but um but that’s you know that’s
42:07
how we feel is the most efficient way to
42:09
move forward instead of
42:10
hiring some sort of experts that lie to
42:12
you and their own you know
42:15
on their own website and in this
42:16
[ __ ] the facts uh you know we leave
42:18
it up to you to
42:20
do your own research as many of us have
42:23
done in the past and are doing now and
42:25
we’ll continue to do in the future and
42:26
if you can’t handle that then
42:27
i would suggest staying on twitter i
42:29
would suggest staying on on
42:31
facebook and you know have fun so we’ve
42:33
got over on uh over on float
42:35
float.app um we’ve had a bunch of people
42:38
asking questions but uh billy pierce
42:40
from texas billy pierce
42:42
at billy pierce for texas uh he said
42:44
that he would really love to hear
42:46
uh your opinions on section 230 and how
42:49
actual lawsuit might look if 230 is
42:51
stricken or weakened
42:54
yeah i you know i don’t know obviously
42:56
like we’re following that
42:57
um but i don’t trust
43:00
you know 2 30 it kind of you know kind
43:03
of seems like a good thing at least
43:04
it says you know i hate all government
43:06
regulations
43:08
but sometimes you need government like
43:10
better government regulations to deal
43:12
with
43:12
other government regulations that they
43:13
already have in the past and that’s kind
43:14
of what two three is it a bit
43:16
right so i’m uh you know if they if they
43:19
just take away
43:20
230 it can put us you know it can put us
43:23
in jeopardy as as far as uh
43:25
you know our operations and in every
43:26
other social operate you know
43:28
social media or social platform or any
43:30
type of you know form
43:32
um so i don’t think that that’s very
43:35
you know enforceable uh it seems kind of
43:38
you know i don’t think that i don’t know
43:40
how you would do that on on the internet
43:42
uh today but um i mean good luck with
43:44
that if they try to do that but
43:46
i don’t think they’ll do that i think
43:47
what they’ll probably do is they’ll
43:48
probably
43:49
try to reform it in some you know worse
43:51
way for
43:52
the small guys and you know how right
43:54
exactly they always benefit the big guys
43:56
so you know they’ll probably be like oh
43:58
well if your you know
44:00
platform has fact checkers and this and
44:03
that
44:03
and blah blah blah then you can’t be
44:04
suited you know something stupid like
44:06
that well we’ll see though
44:07
i hope that i hope they don’t do
44:08
anything right yeah no absolutely
44:10
so many people for you know for most of
44:13
trump’s presidency anyway have been
44:15
saying we need to get rid of section 230
44:16
you know we need to get rid of section
44:18
230
44:18
and i always said to him i was like how
44:21
bad do you think
44:23
social media and the internet will be if
44:25
they get rid of section 230.
44:26
these people are not very liable for the
44:28
things that you say
44:30
i’ve seen some of the dumb stuff you put
44:32
on facebook and some of the dumb stuff
44:33
you put on twitter
44:35
they’ll be liable for it yeah everybody
44:37
will get kicked off
44:39
and it will it will hurt float
44:42
much more than facebook because a
44:44
facebook has
44:45
no problem with censoring everything
44:48
it’ll become dog picture and food
44:51
picture book
44:52
and that’s pretty much it and even then
44:54
like you’ll have to verify that the dog
44:56
came from a no kill shelter and that the
44:59
food
44:59
is vegan gluten free and fair trade
45:02
or else they won’t let you post that
45:04
they’ll have that in place and they have
45:06
an army of attorneys to fight the
45:07
liability claims
45:08
in court the last thing you want i’ve
45:11
gotten into this with so many
45:12
libertarians who don’t understand what
45:14
section 230 is
45:15
section 230 is a regulation that really
45:18
just it explains it’s really just a
45:21
clarification more than a regulation
45:23
it says that when someone does something
45:25
illegal on the internet
45:27
they are responsible for it not the
45:30
platform they did it on not the host
45:32
that it was hosted on not the
45:33
the owner of the the registrar for the
45:35
domain that it’s that you that they use
45:38
to to have the website uh that points to
45:40
the website
45:41
none of that it is the person the people
45:43
that were involved in it
45:45
that are liable if you remove that
45:47
protection
45:48
or really just that clarification that
45:50
the person who did it is responsible for
45:52
it
45:52
then float’s not going to be able to
45:54
exist in its current form
45:56
it’ll either have to become incredibly
45:58
punitive for anything that
46:00
isn’t like you know uh uh i i don’t know
46:03
how you’d be able to function
46:04
you would anything that could
46:06
potentially cause a lawsuit
46:08
or lead to a a criminal action you would
46:10
have to censor
46:12
i would imagine a smaller platform would
46:14
have to just not exist they would have
46:15
to go out of business to avoid
46:17
liability so section 230 is not the
46:19
answer
46:20
the answer is to get rid of all of the
46:24
various regulations that are not just on
46:25
the internet but in gen
46:27
in business in general that that creates
46:30
such a
46:31
a a a barrier for people that are trying
46:34
to
46:34
grow a business and give so much
46:36
weighting towards
46:38
the established companies who are trying
46:39
to you know protect their market share
46:41
when you when you deregulate the
46:42
business environment in general that’ll
46:44
make it easier for
46:45
a float and other things to be able to
46:47
thrive without having to already be
46:49
these established multi-billion dollar
46:51
uh platforms but the really the biggest
46:53
thing we can do is what we can do
46:55
which is use float use these these um
46:58
these apps and these these social media
47:00
platforms that do respect
47:02
your uh your privacy and do respect your
47:04
your autonomy now
47:06
kingsley what i like about your platform
47:08
is that
47:09
unlike most other social media platforms
47:11
or pretty much all the other ones i know
47:13
of
47:13
all the other platforms
47:16
they’re geared towards advertisers
47:18
whereas
47:19
your platform is actually geared where
47:21
it should be towards
47:23
creators and the people who want to see
47:25
that can you talk to us a little bit
47:26
about that that difference between
47:28
a platform where you know you are the
47:31
where the person using is the product
47:33
and a platform that actually encourages
47:35
creation and community yeah
47:39
absolutely um actually duckduckgo put
47:41
out a great blog post
47:43
uh it was probably well now it’s
47:44
probably been like a year almost two
47:46
years
47:47
and it talks about the difference of the
47:48
duckduckgo model versus
47:50
the the big tech model and how you know
47:52
big tech facebook google all these
47:53
companies are
47:54
are creating these these social profiles
47:56
of you that you’re they’re selling to
47:57
advertisers
47:58
but what duckduckgo what they found out
48:00
is actually that keyword based
48:01
advertising is much more efficient
48:03
and much better for the end user um so
48:06
that they can see
48:07
you know we’re we’re going to support
48:08
we’re going to support more ads going
48:10
forward but the cool thing about what
48:11
we’re doing is we have two sets of ads
48:13
we have network ads which we we make
48:14
money off of that could be like a
48:16
sidebar ad a banner ad or
48:17
even an impose feed ad which we were
48:19
kind of trying with right now
48:20
but right um it’s based off of uh
48:22
keywords that
48:24
that you’re searching for so we’re not
48:25
we’re not like gathering this whole
48:27
thing you know and looking taking every
48:28
single
48:29
little bit that you put it posted on
48:31
float and other sites like facebook and
48:33
google where they they track everywhere
48:35
that you’re going
48:36
and they they you know make this model
48:37
of you which a lot of times is wrong and
48:39
that’s what that that was dr go’s whole
48:41
thing is that
48:42
a lot of times you know you may be
48:43
searching for uh
48:45
flowers for your grandmother’s 80th
48:47
birthday but that’s that doesn’t say
48:49
much about you actually and every day
48:51
and every day yeah
48:52
so um so you know and what we’re doing
48:55
is actually we’re again
48:56
with uh cryptocurrency which is the
48:59
future of money
49:00
we are creating uh where we’re
49:02
connecting the advertiser to
49:04
to the the user anyone that wants to
49:06
monetize uh their profile will be able
49:08
to whether it’s audio video
49:10
uh even in post so if you do want to
49:12
monetize your content in your community
49:14
which is no problem with that i mean
49:15
there’s no problem with showing some
49:17
something that
49:17
it’s a lot some people i was i was
49:19
actually surprised that a lot of people
49:20
they don’t mind seeing ads because if
49:22
they’re if they’re targeted ads
49:23
then it’s something that they’re they’re
49:25
looking for which i don’t know
49:27
it pisses us off when we see these you
49:29
know well pisses off when they listen to
49:31
our phones
49:32
and you’re talking about the bahamas
49:34
then all of a sudden you see this you
49:35
know
49:35
this thing to take a cruise or a flight
49:38
that’s what bothers us yeah
49:39
yeah so so it’s just a matter of like
49:42
again
49:43
uh we don’t have to you know first of
49:45
all connecting advertiser to user so the
49:47
user can generate or the content creator
49:48
can generate 100 percent of that uh that
49:50
advertisement we stand out of the way as
49:52
a middleman which we can do with
49:53
cryptocurrency which is so exciting
49:55
um but also yeah just not just you know
49:57
again rewinding the clock a bit
49:59
and just saying hey we’re not in it to
50:02
like spy
50:03
and do all this craziness and censor
50:04
people we just want to do it to be
50:06
instead of extracting value from the
50:09
user we want to create value for the
50:10
user and uh and that’s you know that’s
50:13
really
50:14
you know what we’re doing and what we’re
50:15
building wow that’s awesome man
50:18
we had somebody ask uh if you guys are
50:20
gonna have um
50:23
hang on they they they went on a comment
50:26
spree
50:27
um
50:30
blue check marks for uh accounts
50:34
but not probably not so good yeah uh yes
50:38
uh we actually are so but here’s the way
50:40
that we’re going to do it that i think
50:41
is really cool and different
50:43
so uh key base have you guys heard of
50:45
key base yeah it’s like an encrypted
50:46
chat service
50:47
so what key base did is they they made
50:49
it so that you can link so we all
50:50
we all have our social identities right
50:52
now right some of them are being taken
50:54
away from us
50:55
on day by day basis like like matt and
50:57
many others
50:58
but um but we have you know our facebook
51:00
our twitter our
51:01
you know reddit or whatever github if
51:04
you’re a developer
51:04
so we all have these things so what key
51:05
base did is they made it so that you can
51:07
link your key base
51:08
account to multiple other accounts and
51:10
verify those accounts so that when i’m
51:11
talking to this key based user
51:13
i know that uh and i you know i know
51:15
that this is their twitter account all
51:16
this
51:17
so then i can basically have a better
51:18
judgment of that i’m talking to this key
51:20
based user
51:21
and this is really important especially
51:22
when we talk about cryptocurrency and
51:24
payments
51:24
because you want to know if you’re
51:26
transacting with someone that that is
51:27
the person
51:28
that you are trans exactly we have we
51:30
have some friends
51:31
and uh that actually just got got
51:33
scammed unfortunately because of
51:34
uh aaron’s uh had an impersonator and
51:37
they thought you know there was a really
51:38
good impersonator they thought that
51:40
that uh you know what it was just you
51:42
know [ __ ] story but
51:44
but anyway you know so that that’s
51:45
terrible but where
51:47
twitter the blue checkmark it became
51:49
this you know this first of all is like
51:51
celebrity only celebrities and this and
51:53
that and it’s it’s still
51:54
pretty much that you have to have you
51:55
know but at the end of the day it’s just
51:57
a
51:58
better verification of your online
52:01
twitter
52:02
identity so why why is it this like you
52:04
know a steam thing oh i got a blue check
52:06
mark it shouldn’t even be like that it
52:07
should be you know it should be anybody
52:09
should be able to have a blue check mark
52:10
as long as they
52:11
uh perform certain functions to verify
52:13
their identity so we’re gonna have we’re
52:14
gonna do the same thing we’re copying
52:16
what key base is doing where
52:17
you’ll be able to verify with your other
52:19
social accounts and we’ll try to include
52:20
as many as we can so that you’ll be able
52:22
to verify
52:23
to your foot account and then also one
52:25
idea that i am toying with because
52:26
i don’t i personally as a company don’t
52:28
want to be involved with
52:30
getting you know twitter typically or
52:32
even facebook they want your your
52:33
government id and all this craziness
52:36
we’re trying to make id
52:37
uh where you can have an id that’s not
52:39
tied to government
52:41
um so so but we may what we may do is
52:43
that where
52:44
we have a there’s tons of third-party uh
52:47
uh providers out there now and we can
52:48
just link up their api so that if you
52:50
did want to verify
52:51
your government identity and say you
52:52
have a business or you’re a certain
52:54
personality on float
52:55
then you can send your your uh your id
52:58
to them
52:58
and then we can just use an api process
53:00
to like verify that okay they gave you
53:02
the check mark and then
53:03
it goes to float so that’s those are
53:04
some of the things that we’re working on
53:06
really just taking the models that exist
53:07
today but making them better and
53:09
more transparent and we feel better for
53:11
the end user
53:12
that’s awesome that is awesome man so i
53:15
mean
53:16
i i this is the time like you said you
53:19
know
53:19
we saw this coming uh i don’t think any
53:22
of us or
53:22
i i certainly didn’t think it would be
53:24
happening this quickly and rapidly
53:27
uh but it is obvious that they are that
53:29
you know big tech
53:30
is moving towards in in a frightening
53:34
pace
53:34
to curate what people think
53:38
and it’s and it’s one thing so if i were
53:41
to make a social media platform
53:42
and i said okay listen if you advocate
53:45
for genocide
53:46
you’re gone or if you advocate for
53:49
pedophilia you’re gone like you know
53:52
it’s one thing to have a certain set of
53:53
standards
53:54
and i think that that’s where facebook
53:56
and twitter and these other ones started
53:57
was
53:57
you can’t go on there and be like yeah
53:59
let’s round up all of this group and
54:01
murder them or something like that
54:02
but at some point it turned into well
54:06
we don’t think this is true so you
54:09
shouldn’t be able to say that either
54:11
and when people say this there are bad
54:14
people who agree with that
54:16
not everyone who agrees with this bad
54:18
but there are certainly some bad people
54:20
who agree with that so you can’t say
54:22
that either and
54:24
we didn’t like who won the 2016 election
54:26
so we’re certainly not gonna ever let
54:28
that
54:28
happen on our social media again and it
54:31
all of a sudden turn into
54:33
we’re going to decide the outcome of
54:36
what people believe
54:38
by molding what people are and are not
54:40
allowed to say on our increasingly
54:42
uh dominant platforms and i actually
54:46
uh uh i forget what was the name of the
54:47
person i talked to on your
54:49
on your pod on your on on float that we
54:51
talked on
54:52
on your podcast like two days before the
54:54
election
54:55
yeah richard and we talked about the
54:58
whole dopamine rush
54:59
effect that is in social media social
55:02
media is gamed
55:03
uh in the same way it’s kind of a much
55:05
more extreme version
55:07
of a slot machine where you get these
55:09
little mini rushes and it keeps you at
55:11
it and you lose track of what time it is
55:13
you lose track of what you’re doing
55:14
the difference is imagine a uh imagine a
55:17
slot machine that always gave you
55:19
more money than you put in that’s
55:21
essentially what facebook and twitter
55:23
and these other social media are
55:25
you’re not paying anything upfront
55:26
except your time and you’re getting back
55:29
this reward
55:30
of people validating you people liking
55:32
you people heart reacting you
55:34
people talking to you people sharing
55:36
your content
55:37
and and what happens is your brain gets
55:40
addicted to that
55:41
you know that’s why when a lot of people
55:42
when they’re away from their social
55:43
media
55:44
uh for a long period of time because of
55:46
like an internet outage or something
55:47
they get depressed
55:48
because they’ve been so wired to need
55:51
that dopamine rush
55:52
and that puts facebook and and twitter
55:54
and youtube and the rest of them
55:56
in a position now of saying yeah you
55:58
lose that if you don’t do what we say
56:01
if you if you want to be able to
56:02
continue getting that good feeling
56:04
without having to go outside then you
56:07
got to say the way
56:08
the things the way we want you to say
56:09
you have to avoid opinions we don’t want
56:11
you to say
56:12
and they’re really molding people you
56:14
know getting them hooked on the product
56:16
and then you know molding people’s
56:17
opinion and i i think it’s great that
56:19
you’re doing the opposite that you’re
56:21
saying
56:22
no you should be able to engage in this
56:24
without having us tell you
56:26
what to say are there any you know are
56:28
there any
56:30
things that can or cannot be said on
56:31
your platform that you know
56:33
are our deal breakers or you know what
56:35
what are those types of things
56:36
yeah so we have to we have to follow uh
56:39
us law
56:40
because we are a us-based company right
56:42
um
56:43
but but you know we might have to change
56:45
that soon depending on what’s coming
56:46
with the the new administration but um
56:49
but yeah i mean we have we have a basic
56:51
set of rules
56:52
uh no spam no doxxing no malware no
56:55
username squatting
56:56
we’re going to be updating these rules
56:58
too here just to explain them a little
56:59
better but
57:00
but we want it to be as you know
57:03
the the issue right now too with with
57:05
big tech is because they have these
57:06
commute community guidelines right
57:08
and they’re just so big and then even if
57:10
they do kick you off they’ll you know uh
57:12
our other friend josh you just got
57:13
kicked off uh again
57:14
first facebook now it’s completely
57:16
disabled and
57:18
it’s like you know they don’t even tell
57:19
you what you
57:21
where you did rule you broke of theirs
57:23
we have so many so many stories of that
57:24
from you know
57:25
250 000 subscribers on on uh you know
57:27
it’s youtube you know taking away boom
57:29
like that
57:30
and they don’t tell you anything so we
57:32
just want to be as you know transparent
57:33
and even if we do kick you off we’re
57:35
going to let you know
57:36
what what you know what happened here
57:38
and it’s because it’s gonna you know
57:39
stem from uh
57:40
you know from these seven rules or you
57:43
know we like i said we
57:44
we’re just gonna basically go out and uh
57:46
and make these as you know plain
57:47
language as possible
57:49
no legalese and uh and yeah i mean again
57:52
you know
57:53
especially like when it comes to uh well
57:56
ip and then also
57:57
uh you know like threats of violence or
57:59
harassment this i mean
58:01
in my opinion you know again we we have
58:02
we you know go by
58:04
our uh our legal advice to to deal with
58:06
things as they come
58:08
but um but i mean it just it’s just
58:10
interesting um
58:11
when it comes to like you say like a
58:12
threat or something like that i mean
58:14
if you’re going to get the authorities
58:15
involved with all this well then it
58:17
might be
58:17
a bit easier to uh you know to actually
58:20
have that
58:20
have that information public for a bit
58:22
and so whoever needs to deal with it can
58:24
deal with it
58:25
but um but it’s you know it’s just
58:27
interesting times right now and things
58:28
are changing
58:29
yeah yeah well um well thank you so much
58:32
for
58:33
matt did you have any other questions um
58:36
we we had somebody on float that said
58:38
that uh kingsley was really hot and
58:40
wants your number
58:42
well i’m married but go ahead and slide
58:44
into my my pm’s my private messages
58:46
which are 256 bit encrypted um
58:50
that’s another thing that we you know we
58:51
had it on float is so that’s uh
58:54
you know we want to support encrypted
58:55
messaging we’re even looking into ways
58:57
where we can integrate potentially uh
59:00
it’s not a promise but this is something
59:01
that i would really like because we’re
59:03
our big focus two of us is being
59:04
interoperable so
59:06
right now you can you can attach your
59:07
your uh your twitter account to your
59:09
flow profile so when you
59:11
when you uh post the flow to auto post
59:13
to twitter uh like i mentioned earlier
59:14
you can download your facebook dad and
59:16
upload it to flow
59:17
we’re going to be adding ways where you
59:18
can actually if you upload a video and
59:19
post it on float it can go to library
59:22
and to uh youtube at the same time we
59:24
want to make it so live streaming you
59:25
can just go to our app and you can
59:27
almost have a
59:28
restream feature that’s uh that’s built
59:30
in so that you can you know you can cast
59:32
to many places at the same time
59:34
all simultaneously so um that’s awesome
59:38
where was it going actually very awesome
59:41
no
59:41
no no what uh that was your segue out of
59:44
someone saying they wanted to hit up
59:45
your dms
59:46
um oh right right yeah yeah so yeah so
59:48
so oh yeah so sorry i was going to say
59:50
that it was your wife that was trying to
59:52
hit up your dm
59:55
um but uh but yeah so like with with uh
59:58
with messages for instance like
59:59
we’re looking into ways where we can
60:01
have the float encrypted messaging but
60:03
also we can have
60:04
you remember back in the day where we
60:05
had like msn messenger and aol
60:08
and yahoo and irc and all these other
60:10
ones and then they had like apps like
60:12
trilio and other ones that put them all
60:14
in a nice
60:15
uh format where you can just interact
60:16
with that person in one app
60:18
so we’re looking into doing that on
60:20
float with uh signal and telegram right
60:22
now so we can integrate
60:23
those two things in your club so we just
60:25
want to be like a central hub for
60:26
communication
60:28
and uh in broadcasting your message and
60:30
also you know payments too
60:32
and i think uh over time i mean right
60:34
now you know this is what i tell a lot
60:35
of people but
60:36
right now is the the opportunity to gain
60:38
a hundred million users which is less
60:39
than five percent
60:40
of facebook’s user base in the next five
60:43
years and i think it’s completely
60:44
possible for
60:45
us and a bunch of other platforms i
60:46
think there’s going to be a you know
60:48
splintering of different communities
60:49
that come out
60:50
and we just want to be one of the
60:51
communities that helps uh connect these
60:53
different platforms both
60:54
old big tech and and kind of this you
60:57
know small tech new tech
60:58
and uh and be the kind of the gateway
61:00
for people to use
61:02
that’s awesome yeah no that’s awesome
61:05
that is really really cool so
61:07
kings thank you so much for coming on
61:09
and uh
61:10
i you know give you one more chance to
61:13
give your your elevator pitch for float
61:15
uh you know if if people want to find
61:18
out more what’s the best way
61:19
uh to do that what’s the best way for
61:21
them to find out more about flow
61:24
um yeah i mean just join floats um i’m
61:27
uh king on there float.app slash
61:29
king uh also my wife is great at uh
61:31
communicating and helping people
61:33
uh get onboarded to float so she’s she’s
61:35
aaron um
61:36
you know just uh there’s tons of there’s
61:38
tons of uh videos out there
61:40
and and you know i’ve been i’ve been a a
61:42
libertarian
61:43
uh now i call myself a volunteers but
61:45
i’ve been a libertarian since the ron
61:47
paul days back in i think 27 i turned
61:49
libertarian
61:51
really really think that you know what
61:53
we’re doing is important along with just
61:54
the movement uh for free speech to keep
61:56
free speech on
61:58
on the internet um and uh you know
62:01
again like it’s a simple equation really
62:03
the more users
62:04
uh these platforms like float get the
62:07
more uh
62:08
you know money that we can potentially
62:09
get from investors to build the platform
62:11
that we all want
62:12
and we’re even we’re actually going to
62:13
be launching a crowdfunding campaign
62:15
this year
62:16
uh that we can actually have
62:17
non-accredited investors that to uh to
62:19
invest
62:20
in floats are really excited about that
62:21
but now’s the time i mean there’s such a
62:23
huge opportunity
62:24
and uh and also now’s the time to stand
62:26
up and and do you know what’s right so i
62:28
have the
62:28
the honor of you know having a platform
62:31
out there that i feel is really doing
62:33
the right thing and is on the right
62:34
trajectory
62:35
and i think now you know it’s just it’s
62:37
it’s it really is
62:39
terrifying you know what i believe that
62:40
they’re they’re doing with both uh
62:42
just the manipulation of the media and
62:45
now with you know that
62:46
that coming into social media and so i
62:48
think it’s you know now’s the time to
62:50
really support good people doing good
62:51
things and i feel that we’re one of
62:52
those companies and along with
62:54
all you guys as well and so we need to
62:56
connect and we need to uh create
62:57
communities both online and in the real
62:59
world
63:00
and float is one of those places and
63:03
we’re also going to be doing float fest
63:04
you know in uh in texas uh yeah yeah
63:07
what tell us about that
63:09
yeah so uh march 8th through the 11th
63:13
is floatfest which is our first uh kind
63:15
of in real you know
63:16
float float branded events we’ve done
63:19
interco vegas in the past we were going
63:20
to do anarcho vegas in crypto vegas last
63:22
year
63:22
but you know corona happens and so uh so
63:26
now we’re doing it’s going to be it’s
63:27
about 90 minutes
63:28
northeast of austin and gauss texas i
63:31
think you pronounce it
63:32
it’s on over 100 acres of farmland uh
63:35
it’s going to be a great time
63:36
uh we’re also in anarchopoco uh
63:38
streaming partner so
63:40
and there may be some other big
63:41
announcements in regards to that with
63:43
some big names uh showing up at float
63:44
fest but
63:45
it’s a camping events uh free to vent
63:48
it’s gonna be super cheap i think we
63:50
it’s it’s at floatfest.com right now
63:52
and um yeah check it out it’s great
63:54
website that we just launched our team
63:56
launched
63:57
um has all the information there it’s
63:59
cheap we’re only charging we’re charging
64:00
by car
64:01
uh it’s free to bend so you know it’s
64:03
it’s kind of like a uh
64:04
i’m not sure if you guys have been a
64:05
pork fest but kind of like a pork fest
64:07
or a jackpot okay cool
64:08
vibe camping bring your rv um you know
64:12
show up with nothing there’s uh there’s
64:13
accommodations like 15 20 minutes away
64:15
as well
64:16
but but yeah we’re really excited about
64:18
that we have some really big
64:19
announcements
64:20
that are that are planned in the next
64:21
couple weeks
64:23
that that’s awesome and you know we were
64:26
we were on float
64:28
god a year and a half ago yeah yeah
64:30
almost two years are you trying to get a
64:31
free ticket
64:33
is that no yes we’re not we’re not
64:37
not trying to get a free ticket i was
64:39
just going to give you guys props but
64:41
you know i’ll take that too yeah i mean
64:42
i’ll take a take on them
64:44
but um yeah yeah we were early adopters
64:48
of
64:48
flow and you know it immediately became
64:50
one of our favorite social media sites
64:52
yeah definitely and just the sheer fact
64:56
that
64:57
we’re not getting kicked off um makes it
65:00
just
65:00
much more promising that much more
65:02
popular with us yeah yeah
65:04
really love that one um and i know spike
65:06
just opened up his personal
65:08
over there yep um are you just spike
65:11
cone over there are you
65:12
literally yeah float float dot app slash
65:14
spike cohen and we’re also
65:15
uh float dot app slash muddy waters
65:17
media for for muddy waters
65:19
and uh yeah everyone go to flow and
65:22
leave everything else
65:23
and we can go and be free right
65:27
so folks thanks so much and king thanks
65:29
so much for coming on we really
65:30
appreciate it yeah we really appreciate
65:31
it for having me
65:32
yeah absolutely awesome absolutely so
65:34
folks we’re gonna do a brief
65:36
intermission and then we’ll be right
65:37
back
65:38
uh and we will when we get back we will
65:40
be doing the personal injury attorney
65:42
chris reynolds attorney at law
65:43
anchor colin moment uh so be sure to
65:46
stay tuned
65:47
for that
65:52
hello everyone our parents and
65:55
grandparents
65:56
built this country they raised us and
65:59
they deserve
66:00
so much better that’s ridiculous
66:05
[Music]
66:16
to see a federal party leader use
66:18
insinuations
66:20
and carefully coded questions and of
66:22
course stand there innocently
66:24
i was just asking questions that’s
66:30
ridiculous
66:41
[Music]
66:43
that’s ridiculous
66:46
that’s ridiculous last week what happens
66:50
when leaders don’t take care of other
66:51
words they do and particularly this week
66:53
when we just lived through last week
66:55
that kind of political
66:57
pandering to the worst elements into
66:59
fears and anxieties
67:01
has no place in canada and all of us
67:03
need to stand up strongly to push back
67:05
against that anywhere it happens in this
67:07
country
67:12
[Music]
67:22
that’s ridiculous
67:28
hey that’s not supposed to look like
67:29
that hey everybody
67:32
this is we’re back but also
67:36
i don’t know why matt looks like that
67:40
hey everybody welcome back i’m gonna fix
67:43
this while matt talks
67:45
welcome back um
67:49
how about how about that uh man king
67:52
kingsley was
67:53
amazing he was great yeah king is like i
67:56
didn’t doubt he would be
67:57
but that was and we were all like
68:01
mildly different shades of brunette and
68:04
or blonde
68:05
like it was like a spectrum yeah we were
68:08
the whole
68:09
we were the whole brunette spectrum i
68:11
don’t know why your thing’s doing that
68:15
um but uh yeah for anybody who isn’t on
68:19
float uh float.app
68:21
float.app slash uh muddiedwatersmedia
68:25
you can find us
68:26
and check out uh floatfest.com
68:31
floatfest.com where you can get
68:32
information on float fest which is
68:33
coming up march
68:34
8th um
68:38
super excited about the event especially
68:39
you know if
68:41
our good friends over at float uh give
68:43
us tickets yeah because
68:44
we’re early adopters give us tickets
68:47
we’re early adopters man
68:49
we’re early adopters not and you know
68:51
we’re
68:52
early adopters and if we get the little
68:54
float
68:56
symbol next to our name yeah we’re going
68:58
to get a blue float mark or whatever
69:00
they’re going to call it
69:00
whatever they’re going to use it yeah
69:03
well folks
69:04
thanks again for coming back after our
69:05
brief intermission we
69:07
are now on that magical thing called the
69:10
personal injury attorney chris reynolds
69:12
attorney at law anchor colin moment
69:14
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69:17
at anchor dot fm slash
69:21
or anchor dot fm slash muddied waters
69:25
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69:28
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69:30
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69:35
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69:40
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69:42
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69:43
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69:48
so there is that so here is our first uh
69:50
here is our first question from
69:52
raw liberty media
69:59
from
70:01
calling
70:18
i couldn’t understand what he was saying
70:21
so i think what he was saying
70:22
um was that joe biden
70:27
something about 4.9 trillion dollars but
70:30
i remember
70:31
i’m gonna look up joe biden four point
70:32
nine trillion dollars because it may
70:34
have been 1.9 trillion dollars which is
70:35
the stimulus package that he’s proposed
70:38
oh yeah because nothing’s coming up for
70:41
four tr
70:42
oh yeah 1.9 so assuming uh
70:45
that you asked about the stimulus deal
70:49
it’s garbage uh the vast majority of the
70:51
money is going to big business
70:53
and uh big government agencies
70:56
that little of it’s going to us and it’s
70:58
going to be used as an excuse to keep us
71:00
shut down
71:01
indefinitely so it’s terrible matt
71:03
you’re right
71:06
cameron hates it yeah i mean matt hates
71:09
it
71:10
again i hate it he’s 10 i think and it’s
71:13
ten thousand dollars off student loans
71:15
that he’s been
71:16
promising but this is this is the man
71:19
that wrote the bill that made it so you
71:21
can’t
71:21
claim them on your bankruptcies and
71:23
that’s part of the reason that they
71:24
skyrocketed and uh cost over the years
71:27
and he is now saying well i’m gonna give
71:30
you ten thousand of that money back
71:32
even though i said you couldn’t claim it
71:33
on your bankruptcy
71:35
yep and that’s expensive yeah and that’s
71:38
also an unfunded mandate that’s actually
71:40
not
71:41
funded in this bill so that’s going to
71:43
be up to future congresses
71:45
to decide how to pay that off so
71:48
uh that’ll be fun so here is our next
71:50
question from
71:51
josh and i think this is actually a
71:53
two-parter
71:55
hey matt spike a bunch of us
71:58
not even just sarah got shadow band
72:02
today
72:03
um this is josh mccos i also got shadow
72:06
band i’m no longer able to use
72:08
messenger um so
72:11
like you’re saying all the super fans
72:13
we’re getting
72:15
we’re getting uh shadow band
72:18
and it’s at least it’s making me less
72:22
distracted
72:23
from what i’m supposed to be doing but
72:26
you know
72:28
[ __ ] zuck
72:32
so it looks like joshua’s back now
72:36
so i know that i saw him over on youtube
72:40
and i saw him on float i don’t know if
72:42
he was on
72:43
facebook or not but um yeah a lot of
72:46
people have been getting
72:47
uh not really shadow band but complex
72:50
entity band
72:51
or whatever they’re calling it over
72:53
there now oh yeah yeah to be able to
72:55
actually do things
72:56
right uh and i know that a lot of people
73:00
who watch this show have had that happen
73:02
i don’t know if there’s a correlation um
73:06
it wouldn’t surprise me but at the same
73:08
time i
73:09
don’t know uh but i do agree with the
73:15
obscenity suck yes
73:19
and i think this is probably a corollary
73:21
to that because it’s
73:23
it’s just one it’s eight seconds here we
73:25
go
73:26
hey matt guess what alaska bush company
73:30
that’s the strip club here
73:39
gonna google that now too yeah
73:43
i sure okay
73:46
wow he’s right the great alaskan bush
73:48
company
73:54
is a nude showroom in alaska
73:58
and it’s a nude showroom and juice bar
74:01
oh they don’t they do not serve alcohol
74:04
there
74:06
you can get some refreshing juice
74:10
why’d you imagine like like when you go
74:13
to a juice bar
74:14
it’s expensive could you imagine it at a
74:15
strip club
74:18
i mean you kind of
74:22
have to be drunk or on
74:25
something for continuing to throw money
74:30
at your own sexual frustration
74:33
making sense i’m trying to picture
74:36
staying in that mindset and being like
74:39
i’d like another five alive
74:41
like it’s like
74:44
can you add some protein to that yeah
74:46
yeah yeah can you is it yeah
74:50
oh man yeah can you add some almond
74:54
powder to that cause
74:56
oh that’s funny that is funny here’s one
74:59
from billy pierce
75:01
uh who uh i am a huge fan of he was he’s
75:04
down in texas
75:05
he ran for theft collector uh did very
75:08
well in that race
75:09
and uh is really really good at
75:11
messaging liberty so here’s one for uh
75:13
for billy pierce
75:15
howdy fellers billy pierce from houston
75:17
texas here hey
75:18
right now a lot of us at the local and
75:21
state libertarian party levels
75:23
are working very hard to try to try to
75:25
be an accommodating welcome place
75:28
for all of the folks in america who find
75:30
themselves politically homeless or
75:32
political orphans right now
75:34
and there are a lot of them but in true
75:36
libertarian fashion we are uh
75:38
tripping over our own feet and arguing
75:40
internally uh
75:41
often in full public view of everybody
75:43
else so
75:44
not a good look uh so would you two find
75:48
gentlemen
75:48
care to offer a little advice for those
75:51
of us who are trying to
75:52
work to meet people where they are find
75:55
common ground
75:56
find things we can agree on and work
75:59
with people
76:00
on the things that we agree on without
76:01
getting bogged down on the things
76:03
the things we might disagree on and how
76:05
to do that
76:07
in the political environment with other
76:10
stubborn ferocious passionate
76:12
libertarians
76:14
that’s a great question matt you uh you
76:17
were a member of the libertarian
76:18
national party and
76:20
have been in in more than one
76:23
state affiliate what are your thoughts
76:25
on this yeah
76:26
i’ve been a member of two separate state
76:28
affiliates and uh the national
76:29
party um
76:34
so a big reason that
76:37
yes there’s a lot of people who feel uh
76:39
politically homeless right now there’s
76:41
you know a lot of republicans feel that
76:43
they didn’t have the republic the
76:44
republican party didn’t have trump’s
76:46
back and now they want to leave and
76:47
they’re looking at the libertarian party
76:49
um and i want everybody to look at the
76:53
libertarian party because i think that
76:55
a lot of the people who feel politically
76:57
homeless actually
76:58
probably are libertarians but they just
77:00
don’t realize it yet
77:02
right the question is whether or not you
77:05
can leave
77:06
behind the need for government to
77:10
enforce their will on people or not
77:14
for anybody who says that they can i
77:16
want them to come now as for the
77:18
infighting inside inside the
77:21
party a lot of that is communication a
77:23
lot of that
77:24
is we have different definitions for
77:27
words
77:28
um there was a show that we did back
77:31
during the election and uh you were
77:34
talking about the libertarian left and
77:35
the libertarian right
77:36
and capitalism uh was one
77:39
that they that both sides see
77:42
differently
77:43
uh the right libertarian rights he’s a
77:45
free market capitalism like a laissez
77:47
faire
77:47
and the left sees it as crony capitalism
77:51
that’s the way that i’ve always
77:52
described it anyway is crony capitalism
77:55
and basically yeah right and that
77:58
is where a lot of the
78:02
uh division comes from um so
78:06
nailing down the terms uh nailing down
78:08
the terms figuring out
78:10
how to talk to each other in a civil way
78:13
and understanding what each in a civil
78:16
way that’s a big portion of that
78:18
a civil way yes a civil way
78:21
but figuring out how to talk to each
78:22
other in a civil way and then um
78:26
understanding where each other coming
78:28
from when talking about the different
78:29
terms
78:30
will be able to bring a lot of the party
78:32
together
78:34
yep i agree i agree i think some of it
78:36
is definitional like like matt was
78:38
talking about with capitalism or with
78:39
free
78:40
markets or uh even just the ideas of
78:42
left and right
78:44
uh and but there are some things that
78:45
libertarians of different stripes
78:47
disagree on
78:48
left libertarians right libertarians
78:50
menarches anarchists there are some
78:51
things we just straight up disagree on
78:52
even if we agree to the
78:54
terms we still disagree you know how we
78:56
should proceed
78:57
what we all agree on is that we are
79:00
headed
79:01
at light speed the wrong way
79:05
if we recognize that we’re headed the
79:07
wrong way that we need to make a
79:09
completely 180
79:10
turn and head this way for quite some
79:13
time
79:14
i feel like that is a far better use of
79:16
our time for us to at to work together
79:18
and advocate for pushing that way
79:20
as opposed to letting our disagreements
79:22
over what our hypothetical society
79:24
that’s
79:25
never going to come about until we
79:27
actually can come together and dismantle
79:29
what’s being built continuously being
79:31
built right now
79:32
uh until we do that it’s useless for us
79:35
to even bother talking about it so i
79:36
just
79:37
have no interest in doing that that
79:39
arguing i’m
79:40
i’m happy to do a debate with someone
79:42
but that’s completely different
79:44
than continuously fighting and refusing
79:48
to work with people
79:49
that you disagree with things on going
79:51
back to billy’s question about bringing
79:53
people in
79:54
the politically homeless we need to meet
79:57
them where they are
79:58
in what they agree with us on so many of
80:01
the people that might be coming in from
80:02
the republican party they want a smaller
80:04
government they want lower taxes they
80:06
want less regulation
80:08
or at least less regulation on the
80:10
things they care about they want their
80:11
gun rights respected
80:12
so we can agree with them on that the
80:15
more they come into the party and the
80:17
more we can coalition with them
80:18
the more we have a position to explain
80:20
why we also support
80:22
open migration or at least streamline
80:25
immigration
80:26
why we support uh you know ending police
80:28
brutality and ending the war on drugs
80:30
some of them may already agree with that
80:31
uh
80:32
why we you know support ending the wars
80:34
and bringing the troops home some of
80:35
them may support that already
80:38
the things that we disagree on the
80:39
things that they’re still authoritarian
80:41
on
80:41
we can meet them where they are and
80:43
influence them as to why libertarianism
80:45
works our ideas are better than theirs
80:48
so if we’re on an equal playing field
80:50
where we can talk to each other
80:51
over time we can influence them with our
80:53
ideas they’re not going to convince us
80:55
to be authoritarians but we can convince
80:57
them to be libertarians that’s never
80:59
going to happen if we go wait a second
81:01
wait a second wait a second wait a
81:02
second
81:03
are you telling me you don’t agree at
81:05
least like 95
81:07
with our platform right now well then
81:08
get out of here it doesn’t work that way
81:11
right get out so that’s what we have to
81:13
do it doesn’t mean that we
81:15
elect them to lead us it just means we
81:17
welcome them in come join us find out
81:19
what we’re about let’s
81:20
here help us with this campaign and
81:22
while they’re while they’re watching the
81:24
person campaign
81:25
on property rights and and you know a a
81:28
a a consistent take on libertarianism
81:31
and they’re you know uh um
81:34
constructively
81:35
and proactively involved in it they can
81:37
go
81:39
oh wow that makes sense yeah i guess i
81:40
never looked at it that way that’s
81:42
probably how they got where they are
81:44
right now is by the influence of those
81:45
around them so let’s be the new people
81:47
around them
81:49
so here is the next question this one is
81:52
a political question
81:54
totally different than these other
81:55
questions a political question from
81:57
alex totally different from all of last
81:59
week
82:01
oh that’s why you put that it’s an
82:03
actual political okay alright cool from
82:04
alex boyer
82:06
hello hello alex from virginia calling
82:09
in on the chris reynolds personal injury
82:11
attorney attorney-law anchor column line
82:14
i have a question today for the guy on
82:16
left and spike cohen
82:19
and last week the guy on left said he
82:21
wished that the
82:23
questions would stay political in nature
82:26
and well i can’t speak for everyone else
82:28
leaving questions but
82:30
i will abide by that so wish granted
82:34
which brings me to the topic of today’s
82:36
question
82:37
bigfoot forums on the bigfoot forums
82:41
there’s
82:42
a few different camps of what people
82:45
believe bigfoot actually is
82:47
some believe that he is a hominid some
82:49
sort of
82:50
missing link between people and apes
82:53
others believe that he’s just a folklore
82:56
myth type deal and some think that he is
82:59
an interdimensional warrior
83:01
who has come here to protect the planet
83:03
what do you guys think
83:04
thank you i think he’s just met hicks
83:07
drunk wandering through the forest
83:09
i was gonna say matt hicks is probably
83:12
as good
83:13
the more i talk with matt hicks the more
83:15
i realize that he’s probably sasquatch
83:19
right i mean he is often he is often
83:23
wandering through the woods
83:25
bewildered and very ginger
83:32
yep
83:34
that’s probably matt hicks um so here’s
83:37
the next
83:38
question thanks for that political
83:41
question by the way
83:41
here’s from uh uh will mckelveen
83:46
will macklevene here on my personal
83:48
injury attorney
83:49
chris reynolds attorney at law anchor
83:52
calling moment
83:53
got it right damn it penny right he kind
83:56
of wrote
83:57
come on man have you seen biden’s tax
83:59
plan this is ridiculous
84:01
not to mention the stimulus crap that
84:03
he’s going to try and do
84:05
let’s just print more [ __ ] money out
84:06
of thin air it makes no sense
84:08
anywho hope y’all are doing well been a
84:11
while since i’ve called in but
84:13
either way love y’all have a good day
84:17
and hashtag guy on phone
84:21
come on man come on man come on man
84:24
about me
84:24
come on man pop was a bad dude cold rob
84:27
was bad dude
84:28
he ran with a bunch of bad boys yeah no
84:30
brighton’s a tax plan
84:31
is um awful um
84:35
currently i am sitting in the studio at
84:39
time code production
84:40
um and fantastic guys like four
84:43
four people own and run this company
84:46
uh they do everything that this company
84:50
uh needs they they’re the writers
84:52
they’re the people who shoot it they’re
84:53
people who produce it the people who
84:55
sell
84:55
either four people do everything for
84:58
this company
84:58
um and they are a fantastic video
85:02
uh creating an editing company uh so for
85:04
any of your video editing needs go to
85:07
timecodeproduction.comcodeproduction
85:08
yep but today they were talking about
85:12
biden’s tax plan before the show and
85:15
they were
85:15
very concerned about some of the
85:17
increases that they
85:19
as a small business were going to be
85:21
seeing
85:22
and coming off of a pandemic um
85:26
coming off of a pandemic uh where it was
85:29
hard to
85:30
sell video a lot of people didn’t need
85:32
video done
85:33
right right but they you know they
85:37
they’ve continued to to make it
85:40
throughout
85:40
all of this and then they’re going to
85:42
get hit with a higher tax bill should
85:44
this tax
85:45
uh should the should this tax plan go
85:48
through
85:48
and that that scares them like that
85:51
obviously it scares them it
85:53
should it absolutely should um
85:57
and it should for anybody that’s a small
85:59
business owner and it should for anybody
86:00
that’s a corporation
86:02
uh because these taxes are going to go
86:04
up for
86:05
literally everybody which will increase
86:07
the cost of everything
86:08
for everybody yep
86:14
yeah no yeah i mean i did i yeah
86:17
there’s this is one of those things
86:19
where
86:21
there’s just nothing redeemable about it
86:23
so like you know there’s some stuff with
86:24
biden like
86:25
okay uh he’s uh repealing the the muslim
86:28
ban
86:29
great uh his immigration plan seems to
86:32
be somewhat better than trump’s although
86:33
deportations have gone up so that’ll
86:35
remain to be seen if it’s all
86:37
just you know changing window dressing
86:39
but not really changing anything but at
86:40
least the tenor and tone of it sounds
86:42
like he’s gonna probably be a little bit
86:43
better on immigration but we don’t know
86:45
he’s more than likely going to be better
86:46
on trade not positive of that but
86:49
probably so he’s gonna gonna end the
86:50
trade wars which is it’s good for
86:52
american consumers and american workers
86:54
and american businesses
86:55
uh what else um
86:58
[Music]
87:02
gotta reinstate the iran uh nuclear deal
87:04
that’s probably a good thing
87:06
it’s pretty downhill after that and it
87:09
was mostly downhill with trump i mean
87:11
you’d have to look at the handful of
87:12
things he did
87:13
uh this plan is
87:16
everybody pays more in taxes and it’s
87:19
uh yeah it’s really bad
87:23
and and this is i mean when you say you
87:26
know which of the two parties is worse
87:28
on taxes
87:28
typically it’s the democrats that are
87:30
worse on taxes the republicans try their
87:32
best
87:33
to be bad too for some reason uh but the
87:36
the democrats typically like when it
87:38
comes to taxes
87:39
holy crap they just don’t even pretend
87:42
that you have a right to your money
87:44
and uh it’s pretty much a favor what
87:46
they let you keep
87:48
and um yeah i know it’s bad
87:51
come on man it’s been come on man come
87:53
on man so here is
87:55
corn pop was a lion dog face pony
87:58
soldier man
87:59
so here’s another one from billy pierce
88:02
howdy spike and matt billy pierce here
88:04
from houston texas hope you’re doing
88:06
well
88:07
listen there’s a lot of folks out there
88:08
right now that are finding themselves
88:10
politically homeless or
88:11
political orphans or ideologically
88:13
estranged from their previous movements
88:16
and uh it’s a great opportunity for us
88:18
to bring folks
88:19
in to the liberty movement in the
88:21
libertarian party
88:22
but like in true libertarian fashion
88:25
what we’re doing instead is arguing
88:26
amongst ourselves
88:28
often in full public view uh and it’s uh
88:31
it’s heartbreaking and a little bit
88:32
embarrassing because we don’t seem to be
88:35
able to
88:35
argue or disagree with one another
88:38
civilly
88:39
and uh and i find that problematic so i
88:41
was wondering the two of you
88:43
surely you don’t agree on everything how
88:45
do you handle uh things that you
88:47
disagree on and i’m talking about real
88:49
things
88:49
policy things oh this ideologies how did
88:52
the two of you disagree with one another
88:54
and still maintain a working
88:55
relationship can you give us some
88:57
examples and some advice
88:59
uh how to get along thanks guys he had
89:02
me and he had me in the first half i
89:04
thought he had forgotten he had already
89:05
asked a question
89:06
so yeah how do how do we how do you i’ll
89:09
let you start with this how do we how do
89:11
we deal
89:11
we don’t really disagree on a lot we
89:13
don’t really disagree on a whole lot
89:15
like we there there’s been a few things
89:19
over the course of two years
89:22
that we were slightly off on but not
89:25
like
89:26
minor minors really the biggest
89:28
disagreements we’ve had are like
89:29
predicting outcomes like and that’s not
89:32
really like disagreement like oh you’re
89:34
wrong it’s like
89:35
well uh i think in 2018 you thought that
89:38
the
89:39
uh the republicans were going to hold a
89:41
a slight majority in the s
89:43
in the house and i thought it was going
89:45
to be that the the democrats would hold
89:46
us
89:47
we ended up being both wrong the
89:48
democrats just completely swept it
89:50
um but so like that kind of stuff but do
89:53
we i don’t know that we have a
90:00
i mean the time you took your shirt off
90:02
during the campaign i was like oh what
90:03
are you doing
90:05
but you know it’s your campaign but
90:06
that’s not a political disagreement
90:08
we’re like what the hell are you doing
90:10
more than why did you do this
90:13
um yeah uh we really like legitimately
90:17
we don’t disagree on a
90:18
on a um and
90:22
if if ever there was i know on my end um
90:26
if ever there was a time that i did
90:28
disagree with spike
90:30
um usually by the time he explained his
90:33
position it was better than any
90:34
explanation i had for my
90:36
side and it just kind of i was like well
90:38
now we just agree on that i guess
90:40
is that why we agree on everything
90:42
because those rare times
90:44
we disagree um
90:47
those rare times we disagree by the time
90:49
i’m done you’re like
90:51
yes me too bit billy uh in the comments
90:54
billy said what about business decisions
90:56
and in business decisions um there’s
90:58
only been one thing that
90:59
i remember us really disagreeing on but
91:02
i did
91:02
let spike do it and we lost our like
91:06
button
91:07
because of it
91:11
we lost our like button on facebook
91:13
because he decided to go yang gang happy
91:15
one day
91:16
and uh we haven’t gotten we never got
91:19
that back
91:21
we never got that back so now so now i
91:24
defer to matt
91:25
on all business things yeah because
91:28
i said matt i got a fantastic idea i’ve
91:31
got about 250 yang gang memes
91:34
it was at the height of yang gang it was
91:36
when everyone was doing hiding gang
91:38
and he was like i think this is a bad
91:40
idea we don’t even support andrew yang
91:42
and i’m like yeah but
91:44
it’s viral so about 80 later
91:48
i lost the ability to post for 12 hours
91:51
and then we lost our like button
91:56
which we didn’t know we lost our like
91:57
button until months later when i was
91:59
talking to somebody
92:00
about the show and he goes i want to
92:01
like your page but i can’t
92:03
and i was like huh yeah
92:07
yeah and it explained why we went from
92:09
growing by like 2
92:12
000 likes a day to none to none
92:16
to none just a bunch of follows and even
92:18
then it was way down
92:21
um so so on business things
92:25
i i i differ but even on that most most
92:27
business stuff we even agree on like i
92:30
we really agree on a lot of stuff we
92:32
really agree on a lot of stuff that’s
92:34
part of the reason it has worked so well
92:37
yeah because
92:38
and when we do disagree it’s like really
92:40
minor stuff where we’re both like you
92:42
know what
92:42
just do it your way and the other one’s
92:43
like ah you just do it you’re and so we
92:45
end up just like compromising that
92:46
little
92:47
different bit like we really just don’t
92:49
watch now we’re gonna disagree on
92:50
everything
92:51
um but uh yeah so i i don’t know i i can
92:54
tell you
92:56
put it this way here’s another example
92:58
um
92:59
when i just disagree with someone in
93:01
general um
93:03
and matt can weigh in on this as well uh
93:05
i tend to look at where they’re coming
93:07
from
93:08
and also looking at the fact that i
93:11
may not know everything and that they
93:13
may have a good point
93:15
and so usually i i’m i think different
93:18
than a lot
93:19
when i’m having a very deep uh political
93:22
discussion or debate
93:23
as long as they’re doing it in good
93:25
faith i’m more than happy to like ask
93:27
questions and find out more about their
93:29
thoughts
93:29
and by the time they’re done explaining
93:32
it i may be like
93:33
oh yeah no i’m still right here i’m
93:34
gonna explain
93:36
you know why i why i think that you know
93:38
my way’s better or whatever
93:40
but by then i’ve built up a rapport
93:42
where i can do that or while they’re
93:43
talking i might be like
93:44
huh okay well then maybe that’s a good
93:48
point you know i
93:49
agree to disagree or you might be right
93:51
or whatever
93:53
um so that’s the way i handle that i’m
93:55
not i i don’t see a disagreement as
93:58
a reason to uh come to blows uh
94:01
or or or get personal or anything like
94:03
that i might be wrong
94:06
yeah yeah i go i wake up every day
94:10
i mean i’m i’m dating a jewish woman so
94:12
i wake up every day assuming i’m wrong
94:14
about something
94:15
um i should feel guilty about it and
94:18
should feel very guilty about it
94:20
um i love her though and she’s
94:23
my world um
94:24
[Laughter]
94:28
she makes my food and it is amazing i
94:31
was gonna
94:32
say you are i date a jewish woman who
94:34
cooks all my meals so here let me
94:36
let me let me trash talk
94:41
um oh yeah she can comment this week uh
94:45
but
94:46
um yeah so careful whenever i
94:50
for a short period of time um until she
94:52
threatens to murder me again
94:54
uh but whenever i go into a disagreement
94:59
like i know i don’t know everything
95:02
right um
95:03
if i’m disa i hate
95:06
losing but i know i don’t know
95:07
everything
95:09
so you have to do a good job convincing
95:13
me that your opinion is right
95:15
however i am willing to switch but it
95:19
hurts me on the inside to do it
95:22
because you’ve lost because i’ve lost
95:24
right
95:25
the way i look at it is either i’m right
95:28
now or i’m about to be right after you
95:31
explain something that makes more sense
95:34
than what i thought
95:35
and like i i just and maybe it’s from
95:38
the business
95:38
time that i’ve had with business but i
95:40
always saw losing or
95:42
failing as an opportunity to learn and
95:45
uh and you know it’s like one more one
95:48
more
95:48
puzzle piece you know that’s that was
95:51
missing that’s now
95:52
in place for how to be able to do it
95:54
successfully and i guess maybe i look at
95:56
it the same way with that i’m not you
95:58
know
95:59
the reason that i’ve evolved quite a bit
96:01
politically in the first place was
96:02
because i wasn’t really terribly married
96:04
to
96:05
uh ideas once i was uh uh
96:08
well maybe maybe the drugs changed me
96:10
too because once i was sober i was just
96:12
like yeah you know what you might be
96:13
right
96:13
and it kind of did that so
96:16
when i was on drugs that it was hard to
96:18
change my mind so here’s
96:19
uh here’s one more from uh from billy
96:22
pierce
96:23
howdy spikey matt billy pierce from i i
96:25
i’m wondering if the first 30 seconds of
96:27
this is going to be the exact same
96:29
but but then he’ll like flip it up on us
96:31
at the end anyway
96:32
houston texas here again colin to talk
96:34
to you about bigotry
96:36
bigotry is getting batted around a whole
96:38
lot online these days amongst
96:39
libertarians
96:41
seeing new people come into the movement
96:43
or come into the party
96:45
and uh some folks are worried about the
96:48
party being inundated
96:50
by bigots now bigotry is a funny word
96:52
everybody thinks they know what it means
96:54
nobody thinks that they’re a bigot um
96:57
but bigotry actually has a lot of
96:59
different definitions a lot of different
97:00
understandings
97:02
should we be allowing folks who hold
97:05
bigoted opinions to come into the party
97:08
and try to change their minds once
97:09
they’re here or should we be
97:11
gatekeepers and say you can’t come in
97:13
here until you
97:14
until you’re no longer a bigot is
97:16
bigotry allowable under libertarian
97:18
principles so long as it’s not
97:20
uh we don’t use force to enforce it
97:23
um and how do you understand bigotry
97:25
what’s your definition
97:27
thanks guys do you want to do this one
97:30
first or
97:32
so
97:35
my definition of bigotry uh is
97:40
thinking that you or a group of people
97:43
that you are a part of is better than
97:44
any other
97:46
like that basically essentially that’s
97:48
it um that
97:49
that’s my own personal definition um
97:52
and do i think that we should allow
97:55
people in
97:56
uh the libertarian party who have
97:58
bigoted ideas
98:02
i think that anybody who is saying we
98:06
need to keep
98:06
any group of people out has bigoted
98:09
ideas
98:14
and by this by the
98:17
by the textbook definition by the
98:20
textbook definition
98:22
yeah uh they have bigoted ideas um
98:26
i do think a lot of minds can be changed
98:28
by talking to people
98:30
um i think a lot of people have these
98:33
ideas
98:34
in their heads of what it is of what it
98:37
is they’re trying to keep out or what it
98:38
is you know
98:39
of people that they want to not see in
98:41
the party or whatever
98:42
um and even the people who are trying to
98:45
come in
98:46
who you know they might have bigoted
98:47
ideas against other groups
98:49
um but it’s about talking to them and
98:53
making them realize we’re looking at
98:55
individual rights we aren’t looking at
98:57
group rights
98:59
if you look at the individual if you
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look at the individual and you say that
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person deserves every right that
99:06
everybody else has then you can’t really
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be bigoted against people
99:13
or groups of people because you’re
99:14
looking at them as an individual
99:18
i agree i agree so uh first of all um
99:21
corey arms asked spike did you go to
99:24
rehab no corey i actually just
99:26
um i went cold turkey and i had a couple
99:29
little minor slips in that time but
99:31
within a matter of
99:32
of pretty much by the end of about a
99:34
month’s time i was i was pretty much
99:36
clear
99:37
um of of taking anything and uh
99:40
and i i just am not uh you know i i i
99:43
i’m one of those people that have
99:45
thankful i’ve been very blessed that i
99:47
didn’t
99:47
uh you know have a desire to go back to
99:50
that or anything else um because i did
99:52
everything
99:53
and um allegedly i didn’t actually do
99:56
anything
99:57
you’re in south carolina i’m in south
99:58
carolina which has no statute of
100:00
limitations for anything
100:01
so i have no idea what drugs even are
100:04
but they sound terrible
100:06
um they sound awful uh so
100:09
someone actually posted the where is it
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um
100:12
uh the definition fetcher jordan here
100:15
the definition of
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uh bigotry in this when i when i googled
100:18
it it was the same thing
100:19
um a person who is obstinately or
100:22
unreasonably attached to a belief
100:24
opinion or faction especially one who is
100:26
prejudiced
100:27
against or antagonistic toward a group
100:30
or a person or people on the basis of
100:32
their membership
100:33
of a particular group so technically
100:36
i love you too technically if
100:40
you say i don’t want this a member of
100:44
this group or ideology
100:46
in my group you’re technically big
100:49
bigoted now when we use the word bigotry
100:52
we typically use it to mean people who
100:54
are intolerant
100:56
of you know people because of intrinsic
100:58
things that they can’t control so
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uh bigoted against women bigoted against
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um
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uh gender and sexual minorities uh
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bigoted towards uh
101:09
people of different colors and things
101:11
like that and so there were two
101:13
questions there one
101:14
is can bigotry exist in a libertarian
101:17
framework or society
101:19
and can um and then can how
101:22
you know what should we be doing if
101:24
there are people who have bigoted ideas
101:25
coming to the libertarian party
101:27
i will again say this and i can speak as
101:29
someone who came here
101:31
as a recovering neocon who still thought
101:33
that the military should probably turn
101:35
most of the middle east into glass
101:37
uh you know with nuclear weapons and who
101:39
had some pretty
101:41
garbage opinions on immigration too when
101:44
i first got here
101:45
i am glad that there are people
101:49
who instead of saying no get out you
101:51
don’t you know you still have some
101:53
some you know problematic and racist
101:55
borderline racist or at least bigoted
101:57
and certainly anti-authoritarian views
102:00
get out
102:01
that instead they said hey welcome here
102:03
here’s why your opinions are trash
102:05
and here’s why you’re here’s why we’re
102:07
right and here’s why you’re wrong
102:09
and that’s much better i’m here now
102:14
because i was welcomed and told why why
102:16
i was wrong
102:17
and i think we should be doing that
102:20
welcoming people now if someone’s coming
102:22
in they’re trying to
102:23
you know recruit for their clan or
102:24
something like that that’s one thing
102:26
i’m talking about people who
102:27
legitimately are coming to the movement
102:29
because they agree with a lot of what
102:30
we’re saying
102:31
it makes sense to them they recognize
102:33
they’re never going to get what they
102:34
want from republicans or democrats
102:36
they’re really starting to be
102:36
disillusioned with what they believe but
102:38
darn it
102:39
why do we got to let mexicans in and you
102:41
go hey welcome in
102:42
here’s why we gotta let mexicans in for
102:44
the same reason we just let you in
102:45
schmuck
102:46
and like this is how you can actually
102:49
get people
102:50
and and and bring them in if they
102:52
already agree with you on some things
102:54
you can then say hey great
102:55
here’s why we are consistent in thinking
102:58
that way about immigration
102:59
or about foreign policy or about
103:02
criminal justice or
103:04
whatever but you can’t have that
103:06
conversation
103:07
if you push them away they’re going to
103:09
go back to whatever they go to
103:10
also keep in mind most people are the
103:12
product of the media they consume
103:14
and their social circles so if you bring
103:17
them into your social circle
103:20
and expose them to your media muddy
103:22
waters media
103:23
their your media now you’ve changed
103:26
their opinion they start
103:27
to very few people come in with these
103:29
very strong you know political
103:31
philosophical underpinnings they come in
103:33
with kind of a hodgepodge of ideas that
103:35
mostly came from the media they consume
103:37
and their social network of of people
103:40
uh social safety social uh uh their
103:43
social
103:43
circle and network and so forth like so
103:46
become their new social
103:47
circle and expose them to better ideas
103:50
that’s my opinion on it the question as
103:52
to whether or not
103:54
bigotry can exist in a libertarian
103:56
society
103:57
in a libertarian society a bigot is not
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a powerful person a bigot is just or
104:02
a racist is just a jerk um
104:06
and they don’t have the power to use
104:08
that against people
104:09
other than they can say you aren’t
104:10
welcome in my house okay well if you’re
104:12
a racist i don’t want to be in your
104:13
house but they can’t say
104:14
you’re not welcome in this entire
104:16
neighborhood or you have to only use
104:18
substandard uh
104:20
uh services you can’t use the same
104:22
services that the people i like can use
104:24
or
104:24
you’re not gonna be able to get a
104:25
mortgage or you’re not gonna be able to
104:27
get a job
104:28
instead they’re just saying hey i don’t
104:30
like you
104:31
and you can’t come over here to my house
104:33
and i don’t want you in my
104:35
hardware store and we go all right well
104:37
we all hate you too schmuck
104:39
and you know we don’t we don’t want to
104:40
have anything to do with you
104:42
that is you know the the example i
104:45
always use
104:46
uh adolf hitler as
104:49
a neighbor in a neighborhood is a prick
104:52
that everyone avoids
104:54
and tells their kids to stay off his
104:56
lawn because he’s an idiot
104:57
and a pic it’s crazy adolf hitler is the
105:00
head of the ho hoa
105:02
gives everyone headaches uh until
105:04
eventually they go okay we gotta get rid
105:06
of this hitler guy and replace him with
105:08
steve he’s a much better
105:09
uh he’s gonna make him much better hoa
105:11
president adolf hitler in charge of a
105:13
country
105:14
rounds up and kills tens of millions of
105:16
people and causes hundreds of millions
105:18
more to die
105:19
in a world war that he triggered in a
105:22
libertarian society we remove the power
105:24
from bad people so they’re just schmucks
105:26
that we can avoid
105:28
there’s yet a third question can someone
105:31
who is a libertarian
105:33
be a bigot and the answer to that is
105:35
that there is no such thing as 100
105:38
libertarian zero percent liberty it’s
105:40
all on a spectrum
105:41
to whatever degree you recognize the
105:43
self-ownership
105:44
and the personal autonomy and the
105:48
and the the uh the the right to not be
105:51
aggressed upon
105:52
of every individual person to whatever
105:55
agree
105:55
degree you agree with that is to
105:57
whatever degree you increasingly don’t
105:59
agree
106:00
with the idea well yeah but there are
106:02
certain people who
106:03
don’t deserve that or who just aren’t
106:06
good uh
106:07
or you know they’re prone to bad
106:09
behavior so we have to control them or
106:11
whatever
106:12
so can you be 85 percent libertarian and
106:16
50
106:16
15 bigoted sure can
106:19
is that a full libertarian no uh and
106:22
and to whatever degree they have bigoted
106:24
and racist views
106:26
that’s the part of them that isn’t
106:27
libertarian uh that’s how
106:29
how removed from you know full
106:31
libertarianism that they are
106:33
um which again is why we bring them in
106:35
and we and we convince them otherwise
106:37
i i think it’s a very troubling thing to
106:39
de-person
106:40
people because they have garbage ideas
106:42
they’re still people
106:43
they just have garbage ideas and if
106:45
they’re not actively trying to hurt you
106:47
bring them in and try to change their
106:48
mind and talk them off the ledge so they
106:50
don’t end up hurting someone
106:53
that’s what i think
106:57
and billy said a little about 10 minutes
106:59
ago in the comments
107:00
uh we can’t we can’t change people until
107:03
uh
107:03
they know that we care about them um and
107:06
that’s true
107:07
like yes nobody’s gonna change for
107:11
people that are gonna just brush them
107:14
aside
107:14
at any moment there’s no point
107:18
so if you show them that we care about
107:20
them as individuals as
107:22
just regular people then
107:26
they will start to see that they should
107:28
just care for individuals as people
107:30
and that will begin to spread and
107:36
some people are going to be like hey
107:39
this sucks i want to be a racist so they
107:41
leave so they leave
107:42
okay
107:45
okay good bye like that’s fine that’s
107:48
also fine
107:49
like you that was always allowed you
107:51
know when they go i’m
107:53
out of here i want to be right okay good
107:54
go be a racist like that’s not what
107:56
we’re about
107:56
uh and we’re glad that you got to hear
107:59
some ideas
108:00
um and uh hopefully you stop being a
108:02
prick
108:03
and and and the thing is whatever they
108:05
whatever seeds they leave planted in
108:07
their head even if they never fully
108:09
germinate they’re in there and maybe
108:10
they’ll be less of a
108:11
prick than they would have been without
108:13
it i don’t know but uh you know that’s
108:15
that would be my
108:16
now if someone’s being you know coming
108:17
in and they’re trying to threaten people
108:18
or they’re trying to be
108:19
you know like uh exclusionary and things
108:21
like that’s one thing you know if
108:23
they’re doing bad things then that’s one
108:24
thing but
108:25
uh yeah i i yeah i let’s be
108:28
let’s try to be nice to people someone
108:30
asked a very interesting justico
108:31
mitchell
108:32
says can you be a libertarian and a
108:35
determinist
108:36
which is a very interesting question a
108:38
determinist for those who don’t know
108:40
and i’m probably butchering this
108:41
somewhat but a determinist believes that
108:43
everything
108:44
that is going to happen has already been
108:47
predetermined so like
108:49
mo a lot of christians and a lot of
108:52
muslims and even some jews believe
108:53
everything’s already been set
108:55
and we’re just basically watching it
108:57
unfold completely powerless to change it
108:59
one way or another
109:01
well libertarianism exists within that
109:03
so yeah
109:08
you may believe it’s already all
109:09
determined but
109:12
i guess you’re not libertarian in a
109:13
philosophical sense because you don’t
109:15
believe in free will
109:16
uh but you i guess de facto can be a
109:19
libertarian because you
109:20
can determine that you always were
109:22
determined to let people do whatever
109:24
they were gonna do
109:28
maybe i don’t know probably the best
109:31
answer but
109:32
uh so here is we have one
109:35
from matt hicks and matt absolutely not
109:40
literally not and i think we actually
109:42
got
109:43
booted it looks like we’re back now
109:47
i don’t think anyone was able to hear
109:49
that
109:55
but no we don’t want to see that no we
109:57
absolutely don’t want to see that
110:00
we do not but thanks for
110:03
thanks for thank you no no thank you uh
110:06
so here is our last question
110:08
from every single every single person is
110:10
like you were booted
110:11
heard nothing and trust me everybody
110:13
it’s for the best
110:14
yeah i know you different definitely
110:17
it’s just
110:18
no we don’t want to have that life i
110:20
don’t want that
110:22
this is what everyone thought the hot
110:25
dog story would be
110:27
this is kind of worse than that yeah
110:29
this is worse
110:32
so here’s our last one personal injury
110:35
attorney chris reynolds here with some
110:37
biden bits
110:39
so as we’ve had the first
110:42
uh little bit of
110:45
the new biden presidency and
110:48
some of the choices made for cabinet
110:51
positions
110:52
um some of the executive orders that
110:55
that he signed and um some of the
110:59
things that he’s indicated that he wants
111:00
to accomplish
111:02
um it kind of got me thinking um
111:06
you know all the different things that
111:09
he’s doing that that are different and
111:10
kind of probably the the tough decisions
111:12
that that he’s having to
111:14
to make so i wanted to hear from um you
111:17
guys especially spike if possible um
111:20
what he thought of the packers decision
111:24
to kick a field goal with two minutes
111:27
remaining
111:28
and never getting the ball back and
111:30
essentially losing the game thanks
111:35
he’s gone for months
111:40
it’s his segment it’s his segment
111:44
which means that we can never not play
111:46
his questions of course but it’s always
111:49
this
111:49
i know i um i don’t even know i it
111:52
sounds
111:52
terrible chris i don’t
111:56
so i was why i was i was watching the
111:58
game with
111:59
personal injury attorney chris reynolds
112:00
attorney at law he was sitting oh okay
112:02
he was sitting to my left um oh he was
112:06
guy on right
112:07
yeah yeah he was guy on right wow
112:10
hashtag chris on right
112:12
yeah yeah um but yeah we we were
112:15
watching the game together
112:16
and um
112:19
the the packers were down at like the 15
112:22
or 20 yard line
112:23
um with about a little over two minutes
112:26
left and
112:27
he said um yeah it was a little over two
112:30
minutes left and
112:31
he he said you have to go for the
112:33
touchdown here
112:34
um you absolutely need to go for the
112:36
touchdown i said no you just go for the
112:38
field goal and you really want your
112:39
defense you get points on the board and
112:41
then you just really want your defense
112:43
to uh to hold them um
112:46
and he said now you really do you got to
112:49
go for the touchdown and they kicked the
112:50
field goal
112:51
and then the packers never got the ball
112:52
back and ended up losing
112:54
um so
112:57
i am certain that uh that was where
113:01
that question stemmed from but should
113:04
the packers have gone for a touchdown
113:06
maybe if they didn’t get it everybody
113:08
would say they should have gone for the
113:09
field goal and tried to stop them
113:11
they put the points on the board and
113:13
then their defense just wasn’t able to
113:14
uh
113:15
stop stop i almost said the patriots
113:18
that’s not right tom brady
113:20
uh stopped the tampa bay bucks so
113:26
so yeah i don’t know so
113:29
it is being demanded that we replay matt
113:33
and as matt just said you’re all going
113:36
to regret this but you wanted this so
113:38
here we go
113:40
hopefully we get knocked off again tour
113:43
audio only we apologize because you’re
113:46
now going to hear this twice
113:47
you’re going to hear this twice because
113:49
because the the live people
113:51
demanded to get punished
113:54
anyway i’ll play they’re feeling bigoted
113:56
against well hello there
113:57
guy on left and spike cohen and special
114:00
guest kingsley edwards this is
114:02
matt hicks calling in on the personal
114:04
injury attorney chris reynolds attorney
114:06
at law anchor call in moment tm
114:09
uh i just have one question for you
114:10
tonight this is the only call you’re
114:11
going to get from me
114:13
so i had a doctor’s appointment
114:14
yesterday and apparently i’ve got to get
114:16
a colonoscopy
114:17
now in case you don’t know what that is
114:20
they give me this stuff that i call [ __ ]
114:22
juice that i have to drink and then it
114:23
makes me [ __ ]
114:25
and then i go in the next day and they
114:26
jam an hd camera up my ass and pump me
114:29
full of air like a balloon animal
114:31
and uh my question for you guys is
114:35
would you like me to see if they can
114:37
live stream it for you
114:39
laser legend no no no
114:43
still no still no so now you guys have
114:46
gotten to experience that
114:48
and uh
114:55
no so folks the show’s over now what it
114:59
would have
114:59
what an ideal fitting for this show
115:01
right ending for this show um
115:04
yeah we were going to go into uh biden’s
115:06
example oh and
115:07
now they want us to live stream matt’s
115:11
no that would get us kicked off of
115:13
everywhere but float.up
115:15
that would get me i would get i would
115:17
kick myself off of this
115:19
right yeah that would get us kicked off
115:20
float is that what you want
115:25
uh we were gonna go into biden’s
115:27
executive orders but uh
115:28
it’s now 10 o’clock and i now have a job
115:31
that i have to get up for in the morning
115:32
yeah so so but so long story short biden
115:37
signed a bunch of executive orders
115:38
they’re pretty much
115:39
all terrible
115:42
yep they are pretty much there’s like a
115:44
couple that aren’t terrible
115:45
but they’re mostly terrible but you
115:47
already knew that so
115:49
folks thanks again for tuning in to this
115:51
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115:56
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115:59
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117:48
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117:49
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119:09
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119:12
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119:12
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119:16
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119:17
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119:20
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119:21
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119:27
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119:33
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honor beyond description
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i had not spent my career as a
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politician and perhaps
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most importantly of all thousands of
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people came out with their families i
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knew that they did not just come out for
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me
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it deeply moved me they came out to show
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me their support had love for
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me i did not seek the easiest course
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i did not we did what we came here
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to do please don’t
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lose that respect the world respects us
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again
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please don’t lose that respect make
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america great again
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free free free respect free three three
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three free respect
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please don’t lose back respect the
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movement we started is just beginning
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so i left behind my former life and
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stepped into a very difficult arena
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now as i leave the white house we must
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never forsake our beliefs in america
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i fought for you i support your family i
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vote for
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our country above all i fought for
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america
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strong proud and free we extend our best
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wishes
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and we also want them to have luck have
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luck
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a very important word please
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don’t lose that respect the world
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respects us again
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please don’t lose that respect make
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america great again free free free
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respect
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quickly please
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don’t lose bad respect
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