Episode 149 – #JusticeforBreonnaTaylor, #Juneteenth, #Bolton and #Scotus

The Muddied Waters of Freedom with Matt Wright & Spike Cohen


About This Episode

Sit back for a supersized episode of Muddied Waters of Freedom where we go deep in the supreme court, and John Bolton unites everyone in their hatred for him.

Featuring a Personal Injury Attorney Chris Reynolds Attorney-at-Law Call-In segment

Kava from Kasey
Water from Kroger

Follow us online at https://Muddiedwatersmedia.com or

Anchor: https://anchor.fm/muddiedwaters

References:

https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/19pdf/18-1287_09m1.pdf
https://www.freedomworks.org/content/top-10-absurd-quotes-lindsey-graham
https://reason.com/2020/06/15/clarence-thomas-upbraids-scotus-for-prolonging-our-decade-long-failure-to-protect-the-second-amendment/
Supreme Court Rules, 6–3, That LGBT Workplace Discrimination Violates Civil Rights Act
https://www.supremecourt.gov/orders/courtorders/061520zor_f2bh.pdf#page=33
https://reason.com/2020/06/18/john-bolton-is-still-mad-that-donald-trump-wouldnt-let-him-bomb-iran/
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/17/books/review-room-where-it-happened-john-bolton-memoir.html?smid=tw-share


Episode Transcript

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hello can you hear me

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Thank You Juan Ramirez followed by

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you

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you about the Ludo John you about a new

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job job get these things you were about

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to lose your job because you

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if you look the other got your bottle

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cuz you ain't got no reason

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morning good afternoon or good evening

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and welcome to the vanguard before spike

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dr. Dre dull Cohen I am Matt Wright and

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together we are traversing the muddied

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waters of freedom I am so glad that I

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don't look at your list of Jewish rap

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names for me to intro me with each each

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up so hey everybody how are you doing

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welcome to the show thanks for joining

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us

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yeah thanks for joining us on this very

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special Saturday episode of muddied

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waters of freedom first and foremost oh

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yeah allow me to thank casey nestor

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campbell for the table today's episode

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and allow me to thank krueger thean v

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for my purify drinking water because i

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can't i have the blue but i I don't feel

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like getting him bula vinaka bula vinaka

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oh well this has been quite a week it

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has been such a week that we couldn't do

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either of our episodes yeah so a lot of

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fun we had a really long episode planned

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for Tuesday and we had to cancel that at

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the last minute and well we just added

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stuff to it so I hope you folks like

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long episodes is going to be super-sized

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episode of the muddied waters of freedom

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if you heard that there was a trump

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rally this evening and you thought well

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I don't want to do anything

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hyper-partisan well I want to do

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something that's very hyper partisan and

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is gonna take Anna credible amount of

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time but I don't like Donald Trump and I

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don't want to leave my home you found

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the right place today tonight because

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that's we're gonna be spending hopefully

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we do this in under the four hours that

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you that Facebook cuts people off if

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they take longer than that because this

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is gonna take a while we've got a lot to

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unpack on that this was a busy week and

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a half

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and there's a lot of stuff on here to

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everyone watching we know you have the

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option of listening to a strong

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political candidate one who speaks to

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the people one who talks about unifying

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the country with radical ideas or you

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could be watching Trump in front of

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19,000 people so thank you for that

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there are many different ways to

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describe what Trump is doing right now I

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certainly won't I know if it's right

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even if it's written in the show notes

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Chris redneck slow calm so yeah huge

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episode today yeah so instead of the

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normal banter we should probably just

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get right on into the rapid-fire I felt

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like that was fairly normal banter know

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or do a recent or we expected to banter

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more than that I don't normally we go

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into hey how was your week what did you

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do but you know I talk about my words my

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week was great how was your week I mean

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was good good all right speaking of

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weeks

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wait was this that oh no this was

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already in here a officer Brent

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Hankerson of the Louisville Police

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Department the officer who murdered

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Brianna Taylor during a no-knock raid

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was fired from the Louisville Louisville

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Police Department this week and as of

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now 28 days after her murder he's not

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actually been charged with anything and

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nobody else has either but the

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Louisville City Council unanimously

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voted to pass Brianna's law which among

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other things bans no-knock rates in the

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city of Louisville also requires that

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all officer interactions including the

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carrying out of warrants of search

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warrants have that they have to have

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their body cam on if they want the

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evidence to be to be admissible and

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there were some other other things as

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well so I mean it was a really good

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police reform law and that had that

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happened in the wake so I mean it's

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terrible it's terrible that she was

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murdered and that it took that to cause

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this to happen but since she's already

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been murdered it's good that as a result

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of that in public outcry that you know

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that this has happened if nothing else

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but yep nope still not arrested for

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murdering her what I what I have noticed

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it's been a trend over the last few

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weeks like moult seriously even even

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before the George Floyd thing George

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Floyd thing the George Floyd murder um

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we have been saying this is a really

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dark cloud but if you're looking for the

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silver lining you at least have this and

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that law is the faintest of silver

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linings on yes exactly

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yeah no it's it is it's a horrific thing

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that we these events are absolute

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nightmares and the most horrifying thing

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is again watching people commit murder

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and then get put on desk duty while they

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investigate it and that's which is when

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people say well you know there's other

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you're more likely to get killed by

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someone else than by a cop yeah and then

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if they do it then people look for them

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and they go to jail immediately and

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they're tried and it's you know that's

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the problem is if the police do it

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there's a strong likelihood

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they'll never see jail and there's a

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decent likelihood they won't even get

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fired for it or they'll get fired from

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this department and then hired by

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another one so and get rehired so it's

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it is that is the problem not just that

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the murders are happening it's that then

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no one's held accountable for it so at

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least some of these laws are passing and

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hopefully it will prevent another

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Brianna Taylor countless more from

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happening I actually personally went out

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and personally thanked by message I

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found all of the pages and profiles of

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the Louisville City Council members and

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wrote that each one of them personally

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thanking them for passing this and

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voting for it and saying that you know

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countless lives we'll never know how

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many lives are saved as a result of it

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so and then we're pretty receptive of

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that well good yeah speaking of people

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who are receptive a group calling

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themselves Republican voters against

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Trump released an ad with spikes

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favorite Senator Lindsey Graham touting

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Joe Biden and bashing Trump and has been

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called the best campaign ad of all time

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by a Bush advisor I was going to say by

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who by ambush advisor yeah I bet I

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believe the term supporters for a minute

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it's Donald Trump's campaign about he's

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a race-baiting xenophobic religious

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bigot and you know how you make America

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great again tell Donald Trump to go to

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hell if you can admire Joe Biden as a

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person that's probably you've got a

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problem you need to do some

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self-evaluation go some what's not to

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like he is as good a man as God ever

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created he got some of the most

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incredibly heartfelt things that anybody

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could ever say to me he's the nicest

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person I think I've ever been involved

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in this is a defining moment in the

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future of the Republican Party we have

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to reject this demagoguery

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and if we don't reject Donald Trump

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we've lost a moral authority in my view

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to govern this great nation there is

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someone who exists who thinks that that

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is the greatest campaign ad of all time

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of all time of all time now granted in

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all of the articles that I read about

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that ad which was multiple for such a

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short segment only because I was I was

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fascinated by it nobody ever mentioned

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who it was just a former Bush advisor

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and I said maybe but it might have been

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like Bush it might have been like Jeb

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Bush is like off the record best dad

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ever ever my first of all I just want to

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show this part again Trump supporters

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campaign well these are from a from an

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interview that he did with the

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Huffington Post back in 2016 and it was

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shortly after Trump gave his note and I

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was shortly after Trump gave his phone

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number out to everybody so it's

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understandable that at the time was he

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was very yeah this was a reason this was

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yeah this was definitely not reason this

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wasn't this wasn't recent but oh man but

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you know the best way to make Joe Biden

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palpable to people who don't like Joe

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Biden is to include Lindsey Graham

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Lindsey I think tarp was necessary

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because the whole economy was going to

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collapse and Burnett Bernanke Paulson

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and everybody that I know quite frank

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and quite frankly trust after Lehman

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Brothers went down that if we had not

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involved ourselves quickly you'd have a

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financial meltdown Graham and I said is

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this on because we have better other

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quotes as well that's not part of them

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okay yeah we do have better quotes okay

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yes so we have here Oh in fact good news

0:16:56.760,0:17:01.319
we have some other quotes from him these

0:16:59.640,0:17:04.230
are really easy to read so I'm gonna I'm

0:17:01.319,0:17:06.329
gonna tune in here it's a free what we

0:17:04.230,0:17:08.910
can tune we can we can trade off so I'll

0:17:06.329,0:17:13.350
say the free speech is a great idea but

0:17:08.910,0:17:15.329
we're in a war right Rand Paul's saying

0:17:13.350,0:17:17.220
now that he wants this president to tell

0:17:15.329,0:17:19.290
him that he will not use a drone to kill

0:17:17.220,0:17:20.669
an American citizen sitting in a cafe

0:17:19.290,0:17:23.669
having a cup of coffee

0:17:20.669,0:17:25.589
who is not a combatant I find the

0:17:23.669,0:17:28.169
question offensive as much as I did

0:17:25.589,0:17:30.030
disagree with President Obama as much as

0:17:28.169,0:17:31.830
I support past presidents I do not

0:17:30.030,0:17:34.620
believe that question deserves an answer

0:17:31.830,0:17:38.010
it kind of does kind of does deserve an

0:17:34.620,0:17:41.030
answer we need to raise taxes to get our

0:17:38.010,0:17:41.030
nation out of debt

0:17:41.480,0:17:46.499
NCLB it was a historic effort to bring

0:17:44.309,0:17:48.179
about accountability to our schools No

0:17:46.499,0:17:49.769
Child Left Behind was a historic effort

0:17:48.179,0:17:51.690
to bring about accountability to our

0:17:49.769,0:17:54.119
schools and measure achievement and

0:17:51.690,0:17:55.830
progress of our students if you're just

0:17:54.119,0:18:00.059
tuning in this is Lindsey Graham that

0:17:55.830,0:18:02.279
we're we're are you cool I'm going to

0:18:00.059,0:18:04.559
vote with my party I just think oil

0:18:02.279,0:18:05.879
subsidies have to be part of a bigger

0:18:04.559,0:18:08.759
pact this is like the most

0:18:05.879,0:18:10.889
stereotypically terrible crony responses

0:18:08.759,0:18:13.759
to anything I just think oil subsidies

0:18:10.889,0:18:16.440
have to be a part of a bigger package

0:18:13.759,0:18:18.450
I'm a Verizon customer

0:18:16.440,0:18:20.399
I don't mind horizon turning over

0:18:18.450,0:18:21.960
records to the government if the

0:18:20.399,0:18:24.359
government is going to make sure that

0:18:21.960,0:18:26.190
they try to match up a known terrorist

0:18:24.359,0:18:28.559
phone with somebody in the United States

0:18:26.190,0:18:30.509
I don't think you're talking to the

0:18:28.559,0:18:33.059
terrorists I know you're not I know I'm

0:18:30.509,0:18:33.450
not so we don't have anything to worry

0:18:33.059,0:18:34.679
about

0:18:33.450,0:18:37.440
we don't have anything to worry about

0:18:34.679,0:18:38.669
from the government and when they say I

0:18:37.440,0:18:42.239
want my lawyer

0:18:38.669,0:18:46.700
you tell them shut up you don't get a

0:18:42.239,0:18:49.830
lawyer that one does not age well that

0:18:46.700,0:18:54.149
didn't start well right yeah no that one

0:18:49.830,0:18:56.190
that one does not start the whole

0:18:54.149,0:18:57.480
plotline of that one is awful I don't

0:18:56.190,0:19:00.269
know of a time where anyone would have

0:18:57.480,0:19:03.690
been like yeah that's how I felt too

0:19:00.269,0:19:06.809
before you said it right that's a valid

0:19:03.690,0:19:13.409
point I mean that's that is I mean but

0:19:06.809,0:19:15.600
that's Lindsey Graham didn't know it it

0:19:13.409,0:19:17.460
started poorly and kept going from there

0:19:15.600,0:19:19.590
it didn't really get worse it just sort

0:19:17.460,0:19:22.080
of plateaued at terrible you can't get

0:19:19.590,0:19:24.629
worse if you're already at the floor um

0:19:22.080,0:19:26.789
I like I like that he just is so proud

0:19:24.629,0:19:30.629
of saying things like we need more oil

0:19:26.789,0:19:38.239
subsidies yeah that's that's a that's a

0:19:30.629,0:19:41.239
good one so in a speaking of Republican

0:19:38.239,0:19:41.239
blows

0:19:42.910,0:19:46.420
in a blow to the conservative movement

0:19:44.620,0:19:49.530
in the in the u.s. the Supreme Court

0:19:46.420,0:19:51.790
ruled in a 6-3 ruling on Monday that

0:19:49.530,0:19:55.720
discriminating against an employee for

0:19:51.790,0:19:59.500
being gay or transgender violates the

0:19:55.720,0:20:01.960
Civil Rights Act of 1964 that's right

0:19:59.500,0:20:04.300
Neil Gorsuch wrote in the majority

0:20:01.960,0:20:06.520
decision that an employer which by the

0:20:04.300,0:20:09.040
way this pissed off so many of his

0:20:06.520,0:20:11.530
supporters may because he's more kind of

0:20:09.040,0:20:14.950
libertarian leaning in his conservative

0:20:11.530,0:20:16.720
slash libertarian leaning yeah right

0:20:14.950,0:20:18.460
wrote in the majority decision that an

0:20:16.720,0:20:20.590
employer who fires an individual for

0:20:18.460,0:20:22.900
being homosexual or transgender fires

0:20:20.590,0:20:24.790
that person for traits or actions it

0:20:22.900,0:20:28.240
would not have questioned and members of

0:20:24.790,0:20:31.120
a different sex sex plays a necessary

0:20:28.240,0:20:35.650
and undistinguishable role in the

0:20:31.120,0:20:39.100
decision exactly what Title 7 forbids so

0:20:35.650,0:20:44.440
here is the key thing here the Supreme

0:20:39.100,0:20:47.710
Court the Supreme Court whether you like

0:20:44.440,0:20:50.350
the outcome of this decision or not the

0:20:47.710,0:20:52.600
Supreme Court actually did its job this

0:20:50.350,0:20:56.290
time so rather than get into the weeds

0:20:52.600,0:20:58.630
of whether this was a good law or not

0:20:56.290,0:21:02.530
the Civil Rights Act what they did was

0:20:58.630,0:21:04.960
they read the law and they said how

0:21:02.530,0:21:08.440
should this be interpreted in this case

0:21:04.960,0:21:10.390
what is it saying here and what they

0:21:08.440,0:21:12.100
determined and I think I don't think

0:21:10.390,0:21:15.790
there's really any one that could argue

0:21:12.100,0:21:17.830
otherwise saying that you can't

0:21:15.790,0:21:19.960
discriminate against someone's sex and

0:21:17.830,0:21:23.950
then trying to say oh but that wouldn't

0:21:19.960,0:21:26.910
mean their gender or who they're

0:21:23.950,0:21:30.660
attracted to sexually it would just mean

0:21:26.910,0:21:34.530
basically what genitals they have I

0:21:30.660,0:21:37.420
think completely flies in the face of

0:21:34.530,0:21:40.090
the what anyone would take that to mean

0:21:37.420,0:21:42.250
and so that's what they determine and

0:21:40.090,0:21:44.950
that's where we are so it's one of those

0:21:42.250,0:21:47.350
if you don't like the act or you don't

0:21:44.950,0:21:49.480
like that provision in the act then

0:21:47.350,0:21:51.700
there has to be a legislative role there

0:21:49.480,0:21:54.130
as opposed to taking it to the court and

0:21:51.700,0:21:56.860
telling them to strike it down or to say

0:21:54.130,0:22:00.010
it doesn't apply the way it's

0:21:56.860,0:22:04.030
early clearly written so that's what

0:22:00.010,0:22:05.950
happened there just this is Alito Thomas

0:22:04.030,0:22:08.110
and Cavanaugh all wrote the cents on the

0:22:05.950,0:22:10.120
case and talked by the way

0:22:08.110,0:22:11.920
go ahead which is absolutely no shock

0:22:10.120,0:22:14.680
that those three wrote dissents on that

0:22:11.920,0:22:17.590
case or the Senate dissented on that

0:22:14.680,0:22:19.720
case it is shocking that all three of

0:22:17.590,0:22:21.310
them wrote the sentence on it especially

0:22:19.720,0:22:24.520
Thomas because and we're gonna be

0:22:21.310,0:22:29.740
getting into this later Clarence Thomas

0:22:24.520,0:22:34.240
has written more stuff in dissents in

0:22:29.740,0:22:37.480
majority opinions in the last actually I

0:22:34.240,0:22:39.640
think they were all dissents right I'm

0:22:37.480,0:22:42.100
pretty certain he's only written two

0:22:39.640,0:22:44.050
sensories yeah he he's written more

0:22:42.100,0:22:49.420
dissents in recent times than he has in

0:22:44.050,0:22:51.880
his entire like 30-year career or 27

0:22:49.420,0:22:55.680
year whatever it is 20 28 27 year career

0:22:51.880,0:22:58.660
it's actually kind of interesting how

0:22:55.680,0:23:01.510
how much he's been writing so it's and

0:22:58.660,0:23:03.280
and he's been writing a lot of stuff not

0:23:01.510,0:23:05.320
necessarily on this but in general stuff

0:23:03.280,0:23:07.330
that we are kind of like and how he's

0:23:05.320,0:23:08.140
writing it so right it's every time

0:23:07.330,0:23:12.790
talking about that

0:23:08.140,0:23:15.130
go ahead he um is famously quiet I think

0:23:12.790,0:23:16.540
right before this session

0:23:15.130,0:23:21.190
he had asked something like four

0:23:16.540,0:23:24.670
questions in 27 years and now he has

0:23:21.190,0:23:30.820
been asking questions in many of the

0:23:24.670,0:23:33.400
cases like he seems to he seems to be

0:23:30.820,0:23:35.140
becoming an active member a more active

0:23:33.400,0:23:36.880
member not saying he wasn't active

0:23:35.140,0:23:38.680
before but before he was just listening

0:23:36.880,0:23:41.200
and taking in and now he is actually

0:23:38.680,0:23:43.240
asking questions that the other justices

0:23:41.200,0:23:44.590
aren't asked aren't asking and that's

0:23:43.240,0:23:46.510
the thing so it makes you wonder if

0:23:44.590,0:23:47.830
maybe he's kind of changing his opinion

0:23:46.510,0:23:49.630
where he doesn't feel like the other

0:23:47.830,0:23:52.030
justices are already asking what he

0:23:49.630,0:23:53.260
wants to say and the direction he's kind

0:23:52.030,0:23:55.390
of taking at least when it comes to

0:23:53.260,0:23:58.300
issues of police brutality and

0:23:55.390,0:24:02.410
government power in general kind of

0:23:58.300,0:24:03.820
Lanka I mean it's I'm hesitant to say I

0:24:02.410,0:24:07.390
like where he's going with it but it's

0:24:03.820,0:24:09.610
it's been weird in general we're gonna

0:24:07.390,0:24:10.750
see what happens in the next well

0:24:09.610,0:24:12.310
definitely in the next

0:24:10.750,0:24:13.840
but I think there's a few more things

0:24:12.310,0:24:14.980
that are supposed to be coming out a few

0:24:13.840,0:24:18.370
more rulings they're supposed to be

0:24:14.980,0:24:21.570
coming out and we're gonna see where he

0:24:18.370,0:24:24.880
stands on those to see how if he's

0:24:21.570,0:24:29.500
becoming somebody we can like if he's

0:24:24.880,0:24:32.020
becoming a slash our guy slash um so

0:24:29.500,0:24:35.380
it's sorry real quick Chris Reynolds

0:24:32.020,0:24:37.270
just put in the in the comments

0:24:35.380,0:24:39.070
Thomas was literally asleep the last

0:24:37.270,0:24:42.660
time I was at the court to watch live

0:24:39.070,0:24:42.660
arguments yeah but when was that

0:24:43.290,0:24:48.040
cuz if it was the early 2000s then okay

0:24:46.810,0:24:52.030
because that's what we were just saying

0:24:48.040,0:24:55.120
but he's been maybe he needed a nap so

0:24:52.030,0:24:57.160
he could write stuff Chris it's not

0:24:55.120,0:24:59.920
always about you about that it's not

0:24:57.160,0:25:01.840
always about Chris speaking about things

0:24:59.920,0:25:03.670
that aren't about Chris Donald Trump

0:25:01.840,0:25:06.040
also took a bit of a personal setback

0:25:03.670,0:25:09.220
due to the Supreme Court after they

0:25:06.040,0:25:12.820
ruled that his executive order which

0:25:09.220,0:25:18.190
reversed daca which is the deferred

0:25:12.820,0:25:20.770
action for children oh no defer oh no

0:25:18.190,0:25:23.860
it's the program where they don't they

0:25:20.770,0:25:27.040
don't deport the children of illegal

0:25:23.860,0:25:29.080
immigrants if they stay if they report

0:25:27.040,0:25:31.570
and list themselves on the database and

0:25:29.080,0:25:36.430
report regularly to it deferred action

0:25:31.570,0:25:38.800
for childhood arrivals means and and so

0:25:36.430,0:25:43.240
they yeah they ruled that he it was

0:25:38.800,0:25:46.560
unconstitutional for him to to repeal

0:25:43.240,0:25:49.360
that to reverse it and now thankfully

0:25:46.560,0:25:52.720
and and they said that Obama's executive

0:25:49.360,0:25:56.170
order and acting daca was was not

0:25:52.720,0:25:58.660
unconstitutional so it's fine for Obama

0:25:56.170,0:26:00.880
to implement it early not for Trump to

0:25:58.660,0:26:03.360
use an executive order to implement it

0:26:00.880,0:26:06.010
but you cannot use an inoculation

0:26:03.360,0:26:10.600
executive orders are constitutionally no

0:26:06.010,0:26:13.270
backsies and and so Donald Trump being

0:26:10.600,0:26:16.780
the even-keel man that we know him to be

0:26:13.270,0:26:20.070
who never over reacts to anything of

0:26:16.780,0:26:23.260
course was very even-handed in his

0:26:20.070,0:26:24.519
response where he said the recent

0:26:23.260,0:26:27.159
Supreme Court decision

0:26:24.519,0:26:31.570
not only on Daka sanctuary cities census

0:26:27.159,0:26:34.299
and others tell you only one thing we

0:26:31.570,0:26:38.190
need new justices of the Supreme Court

0:26:34.299,0:26:42.009
if the radical left Democrats I

0:26:38.190,0:26:43.659
appointed assumed power your second

0:26:42.009,0:26:46.299
Amendment right to life secure borders

0:26:43.659,0:26:49.779
and religious liberty among many other

0:26:46.299,0:26:57.059
things are over and gone

0:26:49.779,0:27:02.919
if the two that I appointed keep voting

0:26:57.059,0:27:05.559
differently than I wanted them to then

0:27:02.919,0:27:07.599
the far left Democrats have one right

0:27:05.559,0:27:09.549
this of course feeds into the fact that

0:27:07.599,0:27:11.709
Donald Trump routinely appoints people

0:27:09.549,0:27:14.529
to things and then says that they were

0:27:11.709,0:27:17.200
terrible choices and horrible people who

0:27:14.529,0:27:21.789
should never be trusted which begs the

0:27:17.200,0:27:22.989
question why do you have Donald Trump

0:27:21.789,0:27:25.809
has a history of bringing people into

0:27:22.989,0:27:27.639
his life and saying they're the greatest

0:27:25.809,0:27:30.669
and then and then saying that they were

0:27:27.639,0:27:31.989
terrible and you know dogs and and you

0:27:30.669,0:27:33.369
know you can't trust them and and

0:27:31.989,0:27:36.940
they're terribly it's like like some of

0:27:33.369,0:27:38.379
you ladies out there huh huh no buts

0:27:36.940,0:27:41.919
anybody that's worked in the White House

0:27:38.379,0:27:44.849
under Trump has been the greatest has

0:27:41.919,0:27:48.239
been the greatest and then the worst

0:27:44.849,0:27:51.669
sometimes in the same week right

0:27:48.239,0:27:53.820
sometimes it skaara Moochie nice

0:27:51.669,0:27:56.919
Carlucci was perfect example he came in

0:27:53.820,0:28:00.579
like a wrecking ball I love Anthony

0:27:56.919,0:28:02.109
Skaar Moochie I've been sober for many

0:28:00.579,0:28:03.969
years now but if I wasn't I'd like to

0:28:02.109,0:28:07.919
hang out with him because he was on

0:28:03.969,0:28:10.629
something always he came in so hard

0:28:07.919,0:28:12.849
everyone he got a you know that 15

0:28:10.629,0:28:15.999
minutes of fame that Andy Warhol talked

0:28:12.849,0:28:18.789
about he got like a solid like short

0:28:15.999,0:28:22.829
week of fame everyone was talking about

0:28:18.789,0:28:27.519
the mooch and then and now he's gone

0:28:22.829,0:28:29.769
some say he's still with us but don't

0:28:27.519,0:28:31.659
know where but he he he thought it was

0:28:29.769,0:28:33.489
garbage he's doing it right now

0:28:31.659,0:28:34.809
I'm sure he's still alive but no one

0:28:33.489,0:28:36.669
knows what he's doing but he came in

0:28:34.809,0:28:38.080
everyone was talking about him for like

0:28:36.669,0:28:40.600
five days

0:28:38.080,0:28:44.500
and just couldn't stop and they got

0:28:40.600,0:28:47.160
fired he was gone we went from he's the

0:28:44.500,0:28:49.450
best guy he's just he's just fantastic -

0:28:47.160,0:28:52.240
he's the worst he's just absolutely

0:28:49.450,0:28:55.120
terrible yes terrible we got rid of him

0:28:52.240,0:28:59.380
yep you know it was perfect it was

0:28:55.120,0:29:03.670
perfect and speaking of the Supreme

0:28:59.380,0:29:06.280
Court pissing me off the other stuff and

0:29:03.670,0:29:08.500
all that worried about this was what we

0:29:06.280,0:29:10.120
expected honestly it's what we expected

0:29:08.500,0:29:13.660
to happen we were hopeful it wouldn't

0:29:10.120,0:29:15.730
but I you know I'm not gonna lie I

0:29:13.660,0:29:20.980
actually had high hopes I had high hopes

0:29:15.730,0:29:23.440
I I figured with everything going on

0:29:20.980,0:29:31.200
maybe possibly they would they would

0:29:23.440,0:29:33.640
take this up but yeah I know I know

0:29:31.200,0:29:37.500
it's like rooting for a third party you

0:29:33.640,0:29:41.620
know you get high hosts yeah high hopes

0:29:37.500,0:29:44.170
this time though so yesterday the court

0:29:41.620,0:29:50.110
decided whether or not it would grant a

0:29:44.170,0:29:53.560
writ of certiorari certiorari sir urrrr

0:29:50.110,0:29:55.480
on Baxter vs. Bracey

0:29:53.560,0:29:58.750
for anyone who doesn't know a writ of

0:29:55.480,0:30:00.520
sir is basically when the appeals court

0:29:58.750,0:30:04.210
or a party asked the Supreme Court to

0:30:00.520,0:30:07.120
review the appellate decision most of

0:30:04.210,0:30:11.670
the time they deny it and this isn't a

0:30:07.120,0:30:14.590
holding other than we aren't going what

0:30:11.670,0:30:16.720
this isn't a holding other than so what

0:30:14.590,0:30:19.540
they're saying there is we're just gonna

0:30:16.720,0:30:22.150
say whatever the lower court says okay

0:30:19.540,0:30:23.890
we're just gonna go with that as it was

0:30:22.150,0:30:25.770
described to me by personal injury

0:30:23.890,0:30:31.450
attorney Chris Reynolds attorney at law

0:30:25.770,0:30:34.170
this is like when kids this is like when

0:30:31.450,0:30:37.450
kids are bugging their parents for

0:30:34.170,0:30:43.750
dessert or to play video games or

0:30:37.450,0:30:45.190
whatever and the parents go No and it

0:30:43.750,0:30:47.440
goes back like then it just goes back

0:30:45.190,0:30:49.860
and then one of the kids shoots the

0:30:47.440,0:30:49.860
other two

0:30:51.600,0:31:00.460
so this isn't it is uh so this Baxter

0:30:56.799,0:31:03.820
versus Bracy it's a case of it was a

0:31:00.460,0:31:05.890
Tennessee man who was attacked by a dog

0:31:03.820,0:31:09.270
after surrendering surrendering to the

0:31:05.890,0:31:11.410
police so quick recap he wasn't in cuffs

0:31:09.270,0:31:13.840
he was sitting on the ground with his

0:31:11.410,0:31:17.410
hands in the air he had not been

0:31:13.840,0:31:21.040
detained yet I had previously said that

0:31:17.410,0:31:22.540
he was in cuffs I was wrong but he had

0:31:21.040,0:31:26.260
surrendered with his hands in the air

0:31:22.540,0:31:29.350
and so then instead the police said well

0:31:26.260,0:31:31.299
that's not enough they sent that k-9

0:31:29.350,0:31:35.910
after him and and he was mauled by the

0:31:31.299,0:31:39.960
dog and when in Indy in the original

0:31:35.910,0:31:44.590
argument is they found a similar case

0:31:39.960,0:31:46.419
and somebody had been arrested but they

0:31:44.590,0:31:47.740
surrendered beforehand and they still

0:31:46.419,0:31:52.780
got attacked by a dog and that one was

0:31:47.740,0:31:56.200
found to be excessive use of force that

0:31:52.780,0:31:58.330
person had lied down and put their hands

0:31:56.200,0:32:00.520
out and they said that that was the

0:31:58.330,0:32:02.500
difference-maker between excessive

0:32:00.520,0:32:04.330
courts and not excessive like literally

0:32:02.500,0:32:07.570
the exact same case but one person did

0:32:04.330,0:32:09.580
this and one person did this right how

0:32:07.570,0:32:11.710
could a police officer had known that

0:32:09.580,0:32:14.230
you can't SiC the cop on someone

0:32:11.710,0:32:15.309
surrendering like this just because they

0:32:14.230,0:32:17.140
already knew you couldn't do it if

0:32:15.309,0:32:20.530
they're like this this is what qualified

0:32:17.140,0:32:24.700
immunity is and that's why you know I

0:32:20.530,0:32:26.770
was recently asked on on on a call-in

0:32:24.700,0:32:28.150
show with Austin Peterson he asked me he

0:32:26.770,0:32:31.059
said you know don't you think it's great

0:32:28.150,0:32:33.880
that Donald Trump is passing executive

0:32:31.059,0:32:36.940
orders to stop police brutality and I

0:32:33.880,0:32:39.910
said well if you look at the order all

0:32:36.940,0:32:42.460
it did was give more training bad cops

0:32:39.910,0:32:45.490
don't need training to not murder and

0:32:42.460,0:32:48.010
otherwise maul and abuse people they

0:32:45.490,0:32:51.010
just need to be held accountable for

0:32:48.010,0:32:52.600
when they do or if they do which is they

0:32:51.010,0:32:54.460
is they deterrent for them to do it in

0:32:52.600,0:32:58.150
the first place and it's also a

0:32:54.460,0:33:00.010
deterrent for good cops to not step in

0:32:58.150,0:33:03.190
and stop them because they can be held

0:33:00.010,0:33:04.690
accountable too and so I said if Donald

0:33:03.190,0:33:06.700
Trump was serious you

0:33:04.690,0:33:10.990
be calling for everyone to co-sponsor

0:33:06.700,0:33:13.000
and vote for you know the Justin Amash

0:33:10.990,0:33:15.070
is called ending qualified immunity act

0:33:13.000,0:33:16.000
so he can sign it and make it the law as

0:33:15.070,0:33:20.380
soon as possible

0:33:16.000,0:33:21.820
yep but he did so so the court even with

0:33:20.380,0:33:23.440
all that's going on in the world with

0:33:21.820,0:33:26.980
protests around the country around the

0:33:23.440,0:33:29.320
world actually around the world and in

0:33:26.980,0:33:31.270
everywhere yeah this is the entire world

0:33:29.320,0:33:33.490
is saying enough already to this that

0:33:31.270,0:33:35.020
the people who presume it already over

0:33:33.490,0:33:37.240
us and are putting people in charge of

0:33:35.020,0:33:39.130
telling us what to do need to have some

0:33:37.240,0:33:41.410
basic we need to have basic protections

0:33:39.130,0:33:43.960
against over abuse and use of force

0:33:41.410,0:33:47.680
against us and despite all of that they

0:33:43.960,0:33:49.390
denied the writ of certiorari and this

0:33:47.680,0:33:52.000
means that there is no argument in

0:33:49.390,0:33:55.330
support of the decision but if anyone

0:33:52.000,0:33:57.970
wishes they can write a dissent in that

0:33:55.330,0:34:00.520
right Matt that's right it's sort of

0:33:57.970,0:34:03.310
like when you know you ask your parents

0:34:00.520,0:34:05.830
for something and they say no you can

0:34:03.310,0:34:06.690
argue if you want it doesn't mean

0:34:05.830,0:34:09.970
anything

0:34:06.690,0:34:11.590
Clarence Thomas took this opportunity

0:34:09.970,0:34:15.840
and wrote a dissent on the decision

0:34:11.590,0:34:19.150
which probably the best rid of certain

0:34:15.840,0:34:24.390
man certiorari certiorari I have ever

0:34:19.150,0:34:26.650
read oddly enough possibly the only

0:34:24.390,0:34:28.090
justice gave the history going into much

0:34:26.650,0:34:31.420
more depth than we did a couple of weeks

0:34:28.090,0:34:34.870
ago on our show of qualified immunity so

0:34:31.420,0:34:36.660
based on his dissent of the decision we

0:34:34.870,0:34:39.190
go back immediately to the Civil War

0:34:36.660,0:34:41.710
when the 13th 14th and 15th amendments

0:34:39.190,0:34:44.110
were ratified in order to ensure there

0:34:41.710,0:34:46.930
was no abuse against certain individual

0:34:44.110,0:34:47.890
rights read into that whatever you will

0:34:46.930,0:34:50.320
yep

0:34:47.890,0:34:52.420
and he wrote armed with its new

0:34:50.320,0:34:55.240
enforcement powers Congress sought to

0:34:52.420,0:34:57.400
respond to the reign of terror imposed

0:34:55.240,0:34:59.500
by the Klan upon black citizens and

0:34:57.400,0:35:02.040
their white sympathizers in the southern

0:34:59.500,0:35:05.700
states Congress passed a statute

0:35:02.040,0:35:09.430
variously known as the ku klux Act of

0:35:05.700,0:35:13.660
1871 the Civil Rights Act of 1871 in the

0:35:09.430,0:35:17.650
Enforcement Act of 1871 section one now

0:35:13.660,0:35:18.430
codified as Amendment whatever provided

0:35:17.650,0:35:21.550
that

0:35:18.430,0:35:24.430
any person who under color of any law

0:35:21.550,0:35:27.550
statue ordinance regulation custom or

0:35:24.430,0:35:30.550
usage of any state shall subject or

0:35:27.550,0:35:32.589
cause to be subjected any person within

0:35:30.550,0:35:34.480
the jurisdiction of the United States to

0:35:32.589,0:35:36.250
the deprivation of any rights privileges

0:35:34.480,0:35:38.500
or immunities secured by the

0:35:36.250,0:35:41.230
Constitution of the United States shall

0:35:38.500,0:35:44.650
be liable to the party injured in any

0:35:41.230,0:35:48.220
action at law suit in equity or other

0:35:44.650,0:35:49.599
proper proceeding for redress or in

0:35:48.220,0:35:52.720
today's terms

0:35:49.599,0:35:55.690
it states that individuals have a right

0:35:52.720,0:35:59.319
to sue state officers so politicians

0:35:55.690,0:36:00.990
police government officials for damages

0:35:59.319,0:36:03.670
when their rights have been violated

0:36:00.990,0:36:05.920
right and there's no mention of defense

0:36:03.670,0:36:08.050
or immunities or qualification of

0:36:05.920,0:36:10.599
immunities as Thomas says applies

0:36:08.050,0:36:12.730
categorically to the deprivation of

0:36:10.599,0:36:15.280
constitutional rights under color of

0:36:12.730,0:36:17.500
state law so it had nothing to do these

0:36:15.280,0:36:21.280
things that were introduced later well

0:36:17.500,0:36:29.619
I'm gonna let Matt talk about it so for

0:36:21.280,0:36:31.660
the first century of this law sorry I

0:36:29.619,0:36:34.030
get really excited when Chris Reynolds

0:36:31.660,0:36:36.460
gets excited about like the legal stuff

0:36:34.030,0:36:38.559
I don't it's most exciting part of the

0:36:36.460,0:36:41.650
show it is the most exciting part of the

0:36:38.559,0:36:43.510
show for Chris for the first century of

0:36:41.650,0:36:45.940
this law no immunity was recognized

0:36:43.510,0:36:48.250
under this law and in fact rejected that

0:36:45.940,0:36:53.020
the plaintiff must prove malice to

0:36:48.250,0:36:57.490
recover in the 1950s this court began to

0:36:53.020,0:36:59.740
ask whether the common law in 1871 would

0:36:57.490,0:37:03.339
have a courted immunity to an officer

0:36:59.740,0:37:07.390
for a tort analogous to the plaintiffs

0:37:03.339,0:37:09.790
claim under section 1983 the court for

0:37:07.390,0:37:11.829
example recognized absolute immunity for

0:37:09.790,0:37:14.319
legislators because it concluded

0:37:11.829,0:37:16.960
Congress had not and Penge down a

0:37:14.319,0:37:19.299
tradition of legislative immunity so

0:37:16.960,0:37:22.059
well grounded in history and reason by

0:37:19.299,0:37:24.849
covert inclusion in the general language

0:37:22.059,0:37:27.099
the court also extended a qualified

0:37:24.849,0:37:30.270
defense of good faith and probable cause

0:37:27.099,0:37:32.270
to police officers sued for unconstitu

0:37:30.270,0:37:34.910
unconstitutional arrest and the

0:37:32.270,0:37:38.180
mention the court derived this defense

0:37:34.910,0:37:44.390
from the background of tort liability in

0:37:38.180,0:37:46.400
51 1967 hmm I wonder what was going on

0:37:44.390,0:37:49.300
that would have led to lots of police

0:37:46.400,0:37:53.300
officers and people in government

0:37:49.300,0:37:54.610
abusing people's rights in the 1950s and

0:37:53.300,0:38:01.280
1960s

0:37:54.610,0:38:05.660
probably nothing that's not a funny joke

0:38:01.280,0:38:08.840
but man that's a funny joke I'm sure it

0:38:05.660,0:38:12.860
was just a coincidence that in the 1950s

0:38:08.840,0:38:16.010
and 1960s the federal government started

0:38:12.860,0:38:20.000
telling state officials mostly that they

0:38:16.010,0:38:22.300
could do whatever they wanted to anyone

0:38:20.000,0:38:22.300
in particular

0:38:24.940,0:38:30.650
that's awful coincidental and probably

0:38:27.650,0:38:33.230
has no other context behind why that

0:38:30.650,0:38:37.370
would be happening in the 1950s and

0:38:33.230,0:38:41.030
1960s Matt John hurt Lee says damned

0:38:37.370,0:38:43.100
rock music that was definitely to combat

0:38:41.030,0:38:44.060
rock rock music that's right Elvis

0:38:43.100,0:38:47.840
Presley

0:38:44.060,0:38:51.560
Little Richard ruined everything

0:38:47.840,0:38:54.580
Elvis Presley did all of this this is

0:38:51.560,0:39:00.830
all Elvis Elvis did qualified immunity

0:38:54.580,0:39:03.650
right insurer verse Rhodes without

0:39:00.830,0:39:05.750
considering the common law the court

0:39:03.650,0:39:07.520
remanded for the application of

0:39:05.750,0:39:10.550
qualified immunity doctrine to state

0:39:07.520,0:39:15.490
executive officials National Guard

0:39:10.550,0:39:18.110
members and a university president a

0:39:15.490,0:39:21.680
university president I wonder what was

0:39:18.110,0:39:24.860
happening in the 1970s with the National

0:39:21.680,0:39:27.890
Guard and university presidents that

0:39:24.860,0:39:31.460
could have potentially led for example

0:39:27.890,0:39:33.860
in Kent State - I just wonder maybe some

0:39:31.460,0:39:35.690
people might not get the reference like

0:39:33.860,0:39:37.790
I'm pretty certain our audience gets

0:39:35.690,0:39:39.460
that right I'm hoping I would hope most

0:39:37.790,0:39:44.450
of you would have gotten that reference

0:39:39.460,0:39:46.130
but this is and I wound up using people

0:39:44.450,0:39:49.269
and the end of

0:39:46.130,0:39:51.230
it's Supreme Court stepping in and going

0:39:49.269,0:39:53.990
that's all right

0:39:51.230,0:39:56.000
all right and I want everybody know the

0:39:53.990,0:39:59.869
way this is worded it is not university

0:39:56.000,0:40:07.549
presidents it is a university president

0:39:59.869,0:40:09.440
I could just the one yeah I copied and

0:40:07.549,0:40:14.720
pasted that list of people just so I

0:40:09.440,0:40:18.380
made sure it was correct so not the

0:40:14.720,0:40:20.059
other ones I'm certain now that there's

0:40:18.380,0:40:22.490
precedent they are but in this

0:40:20.059,0:40:28.130
particular case it was wasn't that one

0:40:22.490,0:40:30.230
right it was just that one so now they

0:40:28.130,0:40:32.180
were handing it out to almost anybody

0:40:30.230,0:40:33.980
who requested it now qualified immunity

0:40:32.180,0:40:36.759
was going everywhere they were just

0:40:33.980,0:40:38.930
handing it out like Oprah at her show oh

0:40:36.759,0:40:40.930
I should have made a thing you get a

0:40:38.930,0:40:43.519
qualified immunity you get an immediate

0:40:40.930,0:40:47.299
and everyone in the audience is shooting

0:40:43.519,0:40:49.519
people right it based the availability

0:40:47.299,0:40:51.230
of immunity on practical considerations

0:40:49.519,0:40:53.390
about the scope of discretion and

0:40:51.230,0:40:55.519
responsibilities of the office in all

0:40:53.390,0:40:57.769
the circumstances as they reasonably

0:40:55.519,0:41:00.380
appeared at the time of the action on

0:40:57.769,0:41:02.839
which liability is sought to be based

0:41:00.380,0:41:06.980
rather than the liability of officers

0:41:02.839,0:41:10.789
for god I hate that word analogous thank

0:41:06.980,0:41:13.519
you common law torts in 1871 the court

0:41:10.789,0:41:15.680
soon dispensed entirely with context

0:41:13.519,0:41:19.329
specific analysis extending qualified

0:41:15.680,0:41:22.309
immunity to a hospital superintendent

0:41:19.329,0:41:25.779
sued for deprivation of the right to

0:41:22.309,0:41:29.539
Liberty so instead of using the law as

0:41:25.779,0:41:32.000
the standard of whether or not someone

0:41:29.539,0:41:34.700
would get sued for abusing the rights of

0:41:32.000,0:41:35.180
others if they were a government

0:41:34.700,0:41:38.930
official

0:41:35.180,0:41:41.359
instead they started saying well did

0:41:38.930,0:41:43.609
they think it was reasonable right

0:41:41.359,0:41:46.250
imagine you going to court and I've said

0:41:43.609,0:41:47.720
this many times on product 15 podcasts

0:41:46.250,0:41:49.549
and interviews and call ins and

0:41:47.720,0:41:52.579
everything imagine you go to court and

0:41:49.549,0:41:55.700
you say Your Honor I know I've been

0:41:52.579,0:41:57.769
charged with this horrific crime but I

0:41:55.700,0:41:59.930
think what I did was perfectly

0:41:57.769,0:42:02.810
reasonable and that

0:41:59.930,0:42:05.740
goes oh well then charges dismissed

0:42:02.810,0:42:08.720
that's qualified immunity right

0:42:05.740,0:42:10.340
that's literally what this is that's why

0:42:08.720,0:42:12.050
we're so fired if you've never heard of

0:42:10.340,0:42:14.390
qualified immunity before and you see

0:42:12.050,0:42:15.860
all these like libertarians and black

0:42:14.390,0:42:17.930
lives matter activists and police

0:42:15.860,0:42:19.340
brutality activists and you know civil

0:42:17.930,0:42:21.260
liberties acumen and we're all going in

0:42:19.340,0:42:23.180
qualified immunity and you're like okay

0:42:21.260,0:42:23.870
what is it that's why we're this worked

0:42:23.180,0:42:26.270
up about it

0:42:23.870,0:42:28.010
right I mean we're edgy in general but

0:42:26.270,0:42:31.580
that's why we're specifically worked up

0:42:28.010,0:42:35.900
about this is because it is why bad

0:42:31.580,0:42:39.410
police do what they want and it's why

0:42:35.900,0:42:40.880
police that don't want to do that just

0:42:39.410,0:42:42.560
kind of stand back and let it happen

0:42:40.880,0:42:47.570
because they know no one's gonna be held

0:42:42.560,0:42:49.250
accountable for it even civilly no one

0:42:47.570,0:42:53.720
is going to be held accountable for it

0:42:49.250,0:42:56.270
so ending qualified immunity deters bad

0:42:53.720,0:42:59.030
policing and it holds bad police

0:42:56.270,0:43:01.730
accountable and it incentivizes good

0:42:59.030,0:43:03.080
policing if for no other reason that

0:43:01.730,0:43:07.490
you're out there and you're going hey

0:43:03.080,0:43:09.830
Mark don't kneel on that guy's neck and

0:43:07.490,0:43:12.680
he goes well I want to and you go well

0:43:09.830,0:43:14.960
I'm also here as a police officer and if

0:43:12.680,0:43:18.050
I don't stop mark from slowly murdering

0:43:14.960,0:43:20.630
this man I can be held liable to because

0:43:18.050,0:43:22.700
I don't have qualified immunity so I'm

0:43:20.630,0:43:25.040
gonna have to treat this officer the

0:43:22.700,0:43:27.380
same way I treat anyone else if I saw

0:43:25.040,0:43:32.030
them kneeling on someone's neck in a non

0:43:27.380,0:43:35.000
defensive way which is what we want we

0:43:32.030,0:43:37.820
want the police to be treating other

0:43:35.000,0:43:41.090
police the same way they treat you and

0:43:37.820,0:43:44.270
me hey you're harming someone you better

0:43:41.090,0:43:46.460
stop and if you don't stop I'm gonna

0:43:44.270,0:43:49.310
have to arrest you because that's my job

0:43:46.460,0:43:50.530
to arrest people that do harmful things

0:43:49.310,0:43:52.730
to each other

0:43:50.530,0:43:56.510
that's what qua ending qualified

0:43:52.730,0:43:59.750
immunity gets us is allowing for good

0:43:56.510,0:44:05.570
police to be incentivized to do their

0:43:59.750,0:44:09.380
job a couple of weeks ago in Harlow

0:44:05.570,0:44:11.420
versus Gerald 1982 yes court eliminated

0:44:09.380,0:44:13.890
from the qualified immunity inquiry any

0:44:11.420,0:44:15.630
subjective analysis of good faith

0:44:13.890,0:44:18.210
a summary judgment and avoid the

0:44:15.630,0:44:22.560
substantial cost that attended the

0:44:18.210,0:44:25.170
litigation of subjective intent this is

0:44:22.560,0:44:27.900
where we came up with the test where the

0:44:25.170,0:44:30.270
two Krong test of did they mean any harm

0:44:27.900,0:44:31.530
by it did they know that it was wrong I

0:44:30.270,0:44:34.400
can't remember what the two are off the

0:44:31.530,0:44:37.320
top of my head right right right but

0:44:34.400,0:44:39.870
that is where we get this test from it's

0:44:37.320,0:44:46.770
the substantive orde the substantial

0:44:39.870,0:44:49.470
costs that attend the litigation of

0:44:46.770,0:44:52.290
murdering someone right of murdering

0:44:49.470,0:44:54.420
somebody basically it's insurance not

0:44:52.290,0:44:56.790
insurance company car companies where

0:44:54.420,0:44:58.770
they are trying to figure out does the

0:44:56.790,0:45:03.500
cost of a recall outweigh the cost of

0:44:58.770,0:45:05.790
all the lawsuits does firing this guy

0:45:03.500,0:45:09.390
outweigh the cost of what we might have

0:45:05.790,0:45:11.880
to pay exactly cost-benefit analysis in

0:45:09.390,0:45:15.300
police departments right now is it costs

0:45:11.880,0:45:17.040
more to fight the police unions than to

0:45:15.300,0:45:19.050
just let the guy keep killing people in

0:45:17.040,0:45:21.810
the streets if you're in qualified

0:45:19.050,0:45:26.400
immunity that flips around that inverts

0:45:21.810,0:45:30.510
now it costs way more to keep that bad

0:45:26.400,0:45:31.890
cop on the streets than it does to fight

0:45:30.510,0:45:33.960
the police unions and get rid of them

0:45:31.890,0:45:36.000
now police unions whole other problems

0:45:33.960,0:45:38.100
to deal with but even before that just

0:45:36.000,0:45:40.530
any qualified immunity not only does it

0:45:38.100,0:45:42.000
make the bet that the good cops stop the

0:45:40.530,0:45:44.160
bad cops because they don't want to get

0:45:42.000,0:45:47.300
sued but the police department's

0:45:44.160,0:45:49.500
themselves are looking at this and going

0:45:47.300,0:45:51.090
it's gonna cost a fortune keeping this

0:45:49.500,0:45:53.220
guy around we got to get rid of them the

0:45:51.090,0:45:56.100
first time they do something far before

0:45:53.220,0:45:58.680
murder because if you look Derek Chauvin

0:45:56.100,0:46:00.510
who murdered George Floyd seventeen

0:45:58.680,0:46:02.820
previous counts what do you want to bet

0:46:00.510,0:46:03.840
they weren't all murder there was one

0:46:02.820,0:46:08.220
that was murdered but there were other

0:46:03.840,0:46:11.010
ones that were you know he beat someone

0:46:08.220,0:46:12.690
up or he held them too long or he you

0:46:11.010,0:46:14.640
know whatever he was doing stuff and

0:46:12.690,0:46:17.130
over time he became emboldened because

0:46:14.640,0:46:18.720
he found out I am a cop and there's no

0:46:17.130,0:46:21.930
immunity I have full immunity I can do

0:46:18.720,0:46:24.300
whatever I want there was um oh god what

0:46:21.930,0:46:26.700
was that guy's name we showed the video

0:46:24.300,0:46:27.569
a couple of weeks ago and then it was in

0:46:26.700,0:46:31.529
the intro

0:46:27.569,0:46:33.390
last week he was a cop out of LA and he

0:46:31.529,0:46:35.999
was beating a suspect that was in oh

0:46:33.390,0:46:38.190
yeah yeah yeah just wheeling on this guy

0:46:35.999,0:46:42.380
he already Adam in handcuffs and he just

0:46:38.190,0:46:43.979
starts beating him yeah it was the Zoey

0:46:42.380,0:46:46.529
Zuri Zuri

0:46:43.979,0:46:50.809
yeah sorry Davis talk yeah she had it on

0:46:46.529,0:46:53.849
hers he had had some some wrongful death

0:46:50.809,0:46:56.099
allegations against him right but he had

0:46:53.849,0:46:57.329
he will fight immunity he was the guy

0:46:56.099,0:46:59.640
who shot somebody in his front yard

0:46:57.329,0:47:01.140
right yep shot someone in their front

0:46:59.640,0:47:03.180
yard who was like having an argument

0:47:01.140,0:47:05.729
with his family and he didn't speak

0:47:03.180,0:47:08.819
English right and that wasn't acceptable

0:47:05.729,0:47:10.289
he also he also shot a guy who had

0:47:08.819,0:47:12.690
absolutely nothing to do with it he was

0:47:10.289,0:47:14.519
just outside yeah there was yes so he

0:47:12.690,0:47:17.549
shot someone who was recording it and

0:47:14.519,0:47:20.670
then tried to arrest him for having like

0:47:17.549,0:47:22.880
a like a water gun or some ridiculous

0:47:20.670,0:47:25.170
thing right and said it was a weapon

0:47:22.880,0:47:26.729
right and he didn't have it on him and

0:47:25.170,0:47:28.979
he ended up getting those charges

0:47:26.729,0:47:30.690
dropped if he wouldn't sue yeah he

0:47:28.979,0:47:35.309
wouldn't he didn't have it on him it was

0:47:30.690,0:47:38.369
in his house so he was told to to leave

0:47:35.309,0:47:40.709
and so the guy left and he shot at him

0:47:38.369,0:47:44.339
and then when it followed him into his

0:47:40.709,0:47:47.670
house and arrested him for for having a

0:47:44.339,0:47:50.279
weapon and assaulting an officer he

0:47:47.670,0:47:53.549
walked from the officer after getting

0:47:50.279,0:47:56.279
shot at and had a like squirt gun in his

0:47:53.549,0:47:59.279
house this is what qualified immunity

0:47:56.279,0:48:01.859
brings you it brings you terrible police

0:47:59.279,0:48:03.599
officers and and police departments ago

0:48:01.859,0:48:05.219
it's not worth getting rid of them it's

0:48:03.599,0:48:07.859
gonna cost way more to fight the unions

0:48:05.219,0:48:10.739
and martin's not costing any us anything

0:48:07.859,0:48:13.589
to keep them and it and the good cops

0:48:10.739,0:48:15.029
that are there say I'm not gonna upset

0:48:13.589,0:48:17.219
the applecart I know that nothing's

0:48:15.029,0:48:19.709
gonna change anyway and I'm not gonna be

0:48:17.219,0:48:21.630
held liable for it in fact I have much

0:48:19.709,0:48:23.369
more problems if I try to stop this guy

0:48:21.630,0:48:25.890
whereas if you if you were going

0:48:23.369,0:48:30.150
community's sorry Franklin days is the

0:48:25.890,0:48:32.130
cop thank you to periscope user krka SP

0:48:30.150,0:48:34.799
what was his name okay all right

0:48:32.130,0:48:39.119
carnitas yeah yeah yeah yeah and thank

0:48:34.799,0:48:41.310
you for the 33 super hearts from care

0:48:39.119,0:48:42.570
KSP yes

0:48:41.310,0:48:45.840
now we have to find out what that means

0:48:42.570,0:48:47.490
I don't know what that means I'm excited

0:48:45.840,0:48:49.920
though thank you very much for the 33

0:48:47.490,0:48:53.190
super arts we should probably know what

0:48:49.920,0:48:55.080
those are real if you want to tell us

0:48:53.190,0:48:57.240
what you just did I would appreciate it

0:48:55.080,0:48:59.820
we would appreciate it to stop us from

0:48:57.240,0:49:01.230
having to research it this is not the

0:48:59.820,0:49:04.440
first time Clarence Thomas has voiced

0:49:01.230,0:49:06.330
his opinion to qualified immunity he has

0:49:04.440,0:49:07.710
said in the past our analysis is no

0:49:06.330,0:49:16.470
longer grounded in the common law

0:49:07.710,0:49:18.030
backdrop no I was like wait our analysis

0:49:16.470,0:49:20.100
is no longer grounded in the common law

0:49:18.030,0:49:24.740
backdrop which the Congress and that

0:49:20.100,0:49:29.010
which Congress enacted the 1871 act yep

0:49:24.740,0:49:31.950
so from the time of 1871 up until the

0:49:29.010,0:49:34.680
80s there was no case where they were

0:49:31.950,0:49:36.600
held liable to the so called clearly

0:49:34.680,0:49:40.620
established law test they were supposed

0:49:36.600,0:49:42.720
to be grounded in yep nope they were

0:49:40.620,0:49:44.330
given a one-size-fits-all approach to

0:49:42.720,0:49:48.120
every case when it comes to these cases

0:49:44.330,0:49:49.890
granting immunity blindly to the

0:49:48.120,0:49:54.540
offenders now that's what they have now

0:49:49.890,0:49:56.220
for the first hundred and ten years and

0:49:54.540,0:49:58.740
even before that I mean for the first at

0:49:56.220,0:50:00.470
least a hundred years if you violated

0:49:58.740,0:50:03.750
someone's constitutional rights and

0:50:00.470,0:50:06.710
there wasn't any they couldn't find any

0:50:03.750,0:50:09.470
reasonable reason based on common law

0:50:06.710,0:50:13.460
that you would have to do such a thing

0:50:09.470,0:50:15.150
you were held accountable then it

0:50:13.460,0:50:17.040
coincidentally around the time that

0:50:15.150,0:50:19.610
police started brutalizing and

0:50:17.040,0:50:22.860
government officials started brutalizing

0:50:19.610,0:50:27.060
civil rights protesters and anti-war

0:50:22.860,0:50:30.270
protesters all of a sudden the police

0:50:27.060,0:50:33.300
had immunity and that immunity has been

0:50:30.270,0:50:35.400
strengthened with each new decision with

0:50:33.300,0:50:39.060
the most recent one being in 2001 where

0:50:35.400,0:50:42.930
they said even if you can't possibly say

0:50:39.060,0:50:46.430
that this was reasonable and even if we

0:50:42.930,0:50:50.220
already have precedent in your your

0:50:46.430,0:50:53.310
jurisdiction of that of a similar thing

0:50:50.220,0:50:54.210
it has to be exactly like it or we're

0:50:53.310,0:50:55.030
still going to give you qualified

0:50:54.210,0:50:58.990
immunity I

0:50:55.030,0:51:02.800
wonder what happened in 2001 that would

0:50:58.990,0:51:10.150
have led to more police brutality moving

0:51:02.800,0:51:15.340
forward well it would have been what

0:51:10.150,0:51:19.570
happened in 2000 or before no but the

0:51:15.340,0:51:20.920
justification for that still wouldn't

0:51:19.570,0:51:37.210
make sense because it would have come

0:51:20.920,0:51:45.400
out in June they knew so they let you

0:51:37.210,0:51:49.440
sit in that one for a second so I mean

0:51:45.400,0:51:49.440
we could just keep going yeah we could

0:51:54.060,0:52:01.000
so obviously Clarence Thomas not a fan

0:51:57.700,0:52:03.280
of qualified immunity absolutely wants

0:52:01.000,0:52:06.610
to redress it and actually put some

0:52:03.280,0:52:08.170
guidelines on it and saying you we need

0:52:06.610,0:52:12.640
to do this we can't do this like

0:52:08.170,0:52:14.860
whatever not a huge fan of the guy

0:52:12.640,0:52:16.600
played if he's gone if he wants rulings

0:52:14.860,0:52:19.870
like this I am supporting him on this

0:52:16.600,0:52:22.210
ruling on this subject he seems pretty

0:52:19.870,0:52:26.980
pitch-perfect about it I mean he gets it

0:52:22.210,0:52:29.530
he gets that the Congress was very clear

0:52:26.980,0:52:31.060
not just is it the right thing to do but

0:52:29.530,0:52:32.110
again we were you know our previous

0:52:31.060,0:52:34.120
thing that we talked about the court

0:52:32.110,0:52:36.070
decision they were very clear on the

0:52:34.120,0:52:37.990
transgender thing with with the Civil

0:52:36.070,0:52:39.730
Rights Act instead of deciding and

0:52:37.990,0:52:41.650
trying to legislate they just looked at

0:52:39.730,0:52:44.530
the law and said how can we interpret

0:52:41.650,0:52:46.990
this if you read it the Civil Rights Act

0:52:44.530,0:52:49.630
of 1871 it doesn't say anything about

0:52:46.990,0:52:53.020
immunity if you look at the precedent up

0:52:49.630,0:52:55.270
until the the court started legislating

0:52:53.020,0:52:57.280
from the bench it done there was no

0:52:55.270,0:52:58.840
reference to immunity it wasn't applied

0:52:57.280,0:53:02.470
with any kind of immunity there was no

0:52:58.840,0:53:03.970
idea of you know objective which they

0:53:02.470,0:53:06.130
call it objective but it's actually

0:53:03.970,0:53:08.080
subjective determination from the

0:53:06.130,0:53:08.839
officers whether or not what they did

0:53:08.080,0:53:10.880
was reasonable

0:53:08.839,0:53:14.299
was none of that that's all been added

0:53:10.880,0:53:16.609
by courts looking to cover for abusive

0:53:14.299,0:53:17.479
government officials and police that's

0:53:16.609,0:53:21.309
all it is

0:53:17.479,0:53:21.309
and so he's under percent right on this

0:53:21.609,0:53:26.180
yes not only was he a hundred percent

0:53:24.529,0:53:28.869
right on that hang on a second I got a

0:53:26.180,0:53:28.869
refill

0:53:30.729,0:53:34.099
we should have some lake we should have

0:53:32.989,0:53:36.170
because especially once you start

0:53:34.099,0:53:37.670
drinking the black coffee we should

0:53:36.170,0:53:39.380
probably have some like music for when

0:53:37.670,0:53:41.239
you're refilling your beverage we just

0:53:39.380,0:53:43.789
play like like something thanks some

0:53:41.239,0:53:45.619
music black coffee at nine o'clock at

0:53:43.789,0:53:50.539
night you're insane we got to do with

0:53:45.619,0:53:54.229
the one time be fun like the Matt

0:53:50.539,0:53:55.789
tacular that's gonna be a good time but

0:53:54.229,0:53:57.559
yeah not the only time he was wrong that

0:53:55.789,0:54:00.380
not the only time he was a hundred

0:53:57.559,0:54:03.229
percent correct this week yep another

0:54:00.380,0:54:04.759
case which Chris Reynolds earlier said

0:54:03.229,0:54:07.279
they only take one to two percent of the

0:54:04.759,0:54:08.660
cases that come up and they can't take

0:54:07.279,0:54:11.119
them all so you can't really get mad

0:54:08.660,0:54:13.759
about the ones that they choose yeah you

0:54:11.119,0:54:14.180
can't you can't get mad about whatever I

0:54:13.759,0:54:17.089
want

0:54:14.180,0:54:18.619
great I absolutely can tell me what to

0:54:17.089,0:54:22.579
get mad about I'm mad about the other

0:54:18.619,0:54:26.690
98% to just don't have time for it right

0:54:22.579,0:54:29.660
I didn't look into those though would

0:54:26.690,0:54:37.039
you be mad about mad about this now

0:54:29.660,0:54:44.059
right in the case of Rogers verse grew

0:54:37.039,0:54:45.950
ball grew up grew well New Jersey has a

0:54:44.059,0:54:48.440
requirement that any person seeking to

0:54:45.950,0:54:50.420
get a handgun carry permit must first

0:54:48.440,0:54:52.420
demonstrate to the satisfaction of the

0:54:50.420,0:54:58.849
authorities of the state that he has

0:54:52.420,0:55:00.519
justifiable need to carry a handgun here

0:54:58.849,0:55:03.349
we go

0:55:00.519,0:55:06.499
among other things the applicant must

0:55:03.349,0:55:07.849
specify in detail the urgent necessity

0:55:06.499,0:55:10.940
for self-protection

0:55:07.849,0:55:13.369
as evidence by specific threats or

0:55:10.940,0:55:15.529
previous attacks which demonstrate a

0:55:13.369,0:55:17.869
special danger to the applicants life

0:55:15.529,0:55:20.599
that cannot be avoided by means other

0:55:17.869,0:55:21.480
than by issuance of a permit to carry a

0:55:20.599,0:55:23.339
handgun

0:55:21.480,0:55:28.290
can you imagine if we made police do

0:55:23.339,0:55:30.390
this I mean it wouldn't happen but can

0:55:28.290,0:55:32.250
you imagine absolutely wouldn't happen

0:55:30.390,0:55:34.490
it would never happen but can you

0:55:32.250,0:55:36.570
imagine putting this on the government

0:55:34.490,0:55:38.190
because according to the Federalist

0:55:36.570,0:55:39.720
Papers the purpose of the the second

0:55:38.190,0:55:41.640
amendment was that anything that the

0:55:39.720,0:55:43.740
government had in terms of arms the

0:55:41.640,0:55:46.349
people should also be able to have so if

0:55:43.740,0:55:49.619
the state of New Jersey is saying that

0:55:46.349,0:55:51.270
this is the threshold for the citizens

0:55:49.619,0:55:54.329
for residents of New Jersey being

0:55:51.270,0:55:55.980
allowed to get a handgun then according

0:55:54.329,0:55:59.339
to the founding intention of the

0:55:55.980,0:56:02.339
Constitution they also should have to

0:55:59.339,0:56:04.920
meet this threshold to be able to get a

0:56:02.339,0:56:07.820
handgun right and real quick Chris

0:56:04.920,0:56:10.109
Reynolds he says we'd need another

0:56:07.820,0:56:12.150
actually he says we'd need a other

0:56:10.109,0:56:14.520
thousand supreme courts to hear all the

0:56:12.150,0:56:17.070
cases appealed the SCOTUS it's still mad

0:56:14.520,0:56:19.470
still mad we are not well I can't speak

0:56:17.070,0:56:21.869
for spike I am not mad that they don't

0:56:19.470,0:56:24.450
take all of them I'm at they don't

0:56:21.869,0:56:29.329
choose the ones I want them to I'm mad

0:56:24.450,0:56:32.099
about both those things actually so

0:56:29.329,0:56:39.230
under the rules generalized fears for

0:56:32.099,0:56:43.079
personal safety are inadequate so again

0:56:39.230,0:56:47.160
not good enough not good enough to get a

0:56:43.079,0:56:49.829
permit for a handgun generalized fears

0:56:47.160,0:56:54.960
for personal safety are inadequate that

0:56:49.829,0:56:58.859
should be stamped on the foreheads no

0:56:54.960,0:57:00.839
not even that it should be the law for

0:56:58.859,0:57:03.030
the police again imagine if the police

0:57:00.839,0:57:06.150
were told that just generalized fears

0:57:03.030,0:57:10.109
for personal safety weren't sufficient

0:57:06.150,0:57:11.760
for them to carry a weapon over the

0:57:10.109,0:57:14.520
course of their duties and now keep in

0:57:11.760,0:57:18.450
mind that we travel the same streets

0:57:14.520,0:57:21.930
they do and unlike them we don't have a

0:57:18.450,0:57:24.420
badge on us which means statistically we

0:57:21.930,0:57:25.950
are far more likely to suffer from you

0:57:24.420,0:57:27.420
know as we're as we're routinely told

0:57:25.950,0:57:30.150
you're much more likely to group murder

0:57:27.420,0:57:31.109
blow some blow some good than boy a cop

0:57:30.150,0:57:33.300
yeah that's true

0:57:31.109,0:57:34.980
and and cops are even less likely to be

0:57:33.300,0:57:36.630
murdered by anyone

0:57:34.980,0:57:39.570
because their job is actually one of the

0:57:36.630,0:57:42.200
safer ones it's actually much more

0:57:39.570,0:57:47.850
dangerous to be a pizza delivery driver

0:57:42.200,0:57:50.400
the thin brown crust and the point of

0:57:47.850,0:57:51.920
that is that they routinely tell us that

0:57:50.400,0:57:54.570
the reason they have to keep carrying

0:57:51.920,0:57:56.100
ever-growing militarized equipment is

0:57:54.570,0:57:59.250
because of the fear that they experience

0:57:56.100,0:58:02.340
just even get out amongst us even then

0:57:59.250,0:58:03.660
why can't we have it what's that even

0:58:02.340,0:58:05.070
the fear they experience in the

0:58:03.660,0:58:07.020
McDonald's drive-through and the

0:58:05.070,0:58:09.740
McDonald's drive-through and that's

0:58:07.020,0:58:13.859
coming up couldn't we talk about that

0:58:09.740,0:58:14.940
are we yeah right no not the Wendy's

0:58:13.859,0:58:18.420
drive-through the McDonald's

0:58:14.940,0:58:21.630
drive-through co-channel director was

0:58:18.420,0:58:25.500
crying crying officer Stacy who was

0:58:21.630,0:58:27.420
afraid to take her McMuffin because she

0:58:25.500,0:58:31.040
didn't see them make it and she was

0:58:27.420,0:58:33.859
afraid that they did something to it

0:58:31.040,0:58:37.230
remember that how long ago was that

0:58:33.859,0:58:39.930
yesterday oh yeah I didn't even know

0:58:37.230,0:58:40.859
that one so yeah I mean Stacy shouldn't

0:58:39.930,0:58:43.710
be able to use her hanger

0:58:40.859,0:58:44.250
yeah send me that that's funny cries a

0:58:43.710,0:58:49.770
lot

0:58:44.250,0:58:53.340
so Thomas Rogers who is suing Gruen has

0:58:49.770,0:58:54.750
a business operating on ATMs and wanted

0:58:53.340,0:58:57.869
to carry a weapon with him for

0:58:54.750,0:59:01.470
protection because he operates

0:58:57.869,0:59:07.859
he works on ATMs yeah in New Jersey

0:59:01.470,0:59:09.570
right presumably including Newark and

0:59:07.859,0:59:11.280
other places pretty much anywhere in

0:59:09.570,0:59:14.790
Jersey I guess just anywhere in Jersey

0:59:11.280,0:59:16.290
and shout-out to New Jersey see now I

0:59:14.790,0:59:17.730
have to I see no see this is the problem

0:59:16.290,0:59:21.450
now when I say things I have to like

0:59:17.730,0:59:23.250
worry about losing New Jersey which is

0:59:21.450,0:59:25.190
why I want to get rid of the electoral

0:59:23.250,0:59:30.920
college

0:59:25.190,0:59:34.170
so Thomas Rogers even though he works on

0:59:30.920,0:59:35.910
ATMs in the public where someone who

0:59:34.170,0:59:38.520
might want to rob that ATM would have a

0:59:35.910,0:59:40.140
perfect opportunity to do so when

0:59:38.520,0:59:43.310
there's someone there who can just open

0:59:40.140,0:59:46.320
it and give them all the money in it

0:59:43.310,0:59:47.550
even that didn't and that's far more

0:59:46.320,0:59:48.810
dangerous than being a cop by the way

0:59:47.550,0:59:51.180
even that

0:59:48.810,0:59:53.340
failed to meet the exacting standards of

0:59:51.180,0:59:56.880
the state not for themselves but for the

0:59:53.340,0:59:58.620
rest of us that's right so on Monday the

0:59:56.880,1:00:01.320
Supreme Court decided not to grant the

0:59:58.620,1:00:03.260
writ of certiorari of course I'm sure

1:00:01.320,1:00:08.100
that's what Donald Trump was mad about

1:00:03.260,1:00:12.060
yeah that was the one it wasn't daca it

1:00:08.100,1:00:14.400
was that it was certainly cuz this makes

1:00:12.060,1:00:17.220
me want an angry rage treat tweet which

1:00:14.400,1:00:21.150
now I actually get to angry rage tweet

1:00:17.220,1:00:23.070
and lets people see it I'm gonna

1:00:21.150,1:00:24.450
actually angry rage tweet about the fact

1:00:23.070,1:00:25.800
that Chris Reynolds says there are

1:00:24.450,1:00:28.290
things I'm not allowed to get upset

1:00:25.800,1:00:34.140
about well now he's mad that we're both

1:00:28.290,1:00:34.470
so wrong so so Clinic makes me feel

1:00:34.140,1:00:37.050
better

1:00:34.470,1:00:41.040
yeah Clarence Thomas wrote the dissent

1:00:37.050,1:00:42.780
along with Brett Kavanaugh the text of

1:00:41.040,1:00:44.640
the second amendment protects the right

1:00:42.780,1:00:46.230
of the people to keep and bear arms we

1:00:44.640,1:00:49.170
have stated that this fundamental right

1:00:46.230,1:00:50.940
is necessary to our system of ordered

1:00:49.170,1:00:53.100
liberty yet in several jurisdictions

1:00:50.940,1:00:54.390
throughout the country law-abiding

1:00:53.100,1:00:56.550
citizens have been barred from

1:00:54.390,1:00:58.410
exercising the fundamental right to bear

1:00:56.550,1:01:01.230
arms because they cannot show that they

1:00:58.410,1:01:02.040
have a justifiable need or good reason

1:01:01.230,1:01:05.160
for doing so

1:01:02.040,1:01:07.680
one would think that such an onerous

1:01:05.160,1:01:10.260
burden on a fundamental right would

1:01:07.680,1:01:11.970
warrant this Court's review this Court

1:01:10.260,1:01:13.650
would almost certainly review the

1:01:11.970,1:01:16.020
constitutionality of a law requiring

1:01:13.650,1:01:17.700
citizens to establish a justifiable need

1:01:16.020,1:01:20.130
before exercising their free speech

1:01:17.700,1:01:21.660
rights and it seems highly unlikely that

1:01:20.130,1:01:23.550
the court would allow a state to enforce

1:01:21.660,1:01:25.620
a law requiring a woman to provide a

1:01:23.550,1:01:28.500
justifiable need before seeking an

1:01:25.620,1:01:30.750
abortion but today faced with the

1:01:28.500,1:01:33.120
petition challenging just such a

1:01:30.750,1:01:34.710
restriction on citizens second Amendment

1:01:33.120,1:01:38.190
rights the court simply looks the other

1:01:34.710,1:01:42.480
way this was a pretty sick burn I was

1:01:38.190,1:01:45.120
gonna say one little wordy but and tough

1:01:42.480,1:01:46.890
to get through without stumbling but

1:01:45.120,1:01:49.380
yeah then it's like the Supreme Court

1:01:46.890,1:01:53.370
equivalent of a mic drop I feel ya know

1:01:49.380,1:01:55.770
it was pretty rough and I mean this is

1:01:53.370,1:01:57.810
by the way why you need to vote for Joe

1:01:55.770,1:01:59.820
Jorgenson to me because in the White

1:01:57.810,1:02:02.050
House we will use the Department of

1:01:59.820,1:02:04.210
Justice as an Department of

1:02:02.050,1:02:05.650
actual justice and among many other

1:02:04.210,1:02:08.530
things one of the things that we will do

1:02:05.650,1:02:11.410
is tie cooperation between federal and

1:02:08.530,1:02:14.080
state law enforcement agencies with

1:02:11.410,1:02:16.630
requiring them to not violate the

1:02:14.080,1:02:19.300
constitutional rights through their

1:02:16.630,1:02:22.480
legislative and executive actions one of

1:02:19.300,1:02:24.310
those would be gun laws and now you see

1:02:22.480,1:02:25.720
how the White House can get rid of gun

1:02:24.310,1:02:28.150
laws at the state level without even

1:02:25.720,1:02:29.470
including the legislature or at least

1:02:28.150,1:02:34.260
stop them from being enforced in any

1:02:29.470,1:02:36.340
effective way now according to Thomas

1:02:34.260,1:02:38.200
the case would have been an opportunity

1:02:36.340,1:02:40.480
to restrict the ability of these states

1:02:38.200,1:02:43.570
to infringing on the Second Amendment

1:02:40.480,1:02:47.200
right they also have been able to cover

1:02:43.570,1:02:49.090
open carry and decide the

1:02:47.200,1:02:51.520
constitutionality of justifiable need

1:02:49.090,1:02:54.940
restrictions on the right to carry but

1:02:51.520,1:02:58.770
they did not take it they did not take

1:02:54.940,1:03:02.050
it they threw it out the window and as

1:02:58.770,1:03:06.910
Clarence Tom the great Clarence Thomas

1:03:02.050,1:03:09.340
says today's today today faced with a

1:03:06.910,1:03:11.470
petition challenging such a restriction

1:03:09.340,1:03:17.080
on citizens second Amendment rights the

1:03:11.470,1:03:19.770
court simply looks the other way yep no

1:03:17.080,1:03:24.640
it is incredible

1:03:19.770,1:03:27.400
so had Heller and Heller verse DC for

1:03:24.640,1:03:29.650
anybody that the Heller vs. DC yo for

1:03:27.400,1:03:31.750
anybody who didn't know had Heller given

1:03:29.650,1:03:34.270
more of a precise standard on evaluating

1:03:31.750,1:03:38.080
Second Amendment claims this wouldn't be

1:03:34.270,1:03:41.040
an issue but instead of laying out a

1:03:38.080,1:03:43.690
general roadmap they just kind of said

1:03:41.040,1:03:45.730
general Freight though yeah we're just

1:03:43.690,1:03:48.550
gonna let the lower courts kind of

1:03:45.730,1:03:51.760
decide in the comments like Sanchez

1:03:48.550,1:03:53.470
needing a license to carry a gun is an

1:03:51.760,1:03:59.200
infringement on its own

1:03:53.470,1:04:01.240
exactly yes just even you having to go

1:03:59.200,1:04:03.100
to the government say may I please be

1:04:01.240,1:04:04.780
allowed to exercise what I was told

1:04:03.100,1:04:06.820
specifically is my second Amendment

1:04:04.780,1:04:08.790
right to keep it bare whatever are my

1:04:06.820,1:04:12.550
wish without any infringement please

1:04:08.790,1:04:15.970
that alone is an infringement on that to

1:04:12.550,1:04:20.260
put any kind of requirement

1:04:15.970,1:04:25.840
is of just a further infringement and to

1:04:20.260,1:04:27.970
have the requirement be essentially that

1:04:25.840,1:04:31.030
unless you are proving that someone's

1:04:27.970,1:04:33.490
trying to kill you that you're not going

1:04:31.030,1:04:37.270
to get one is just an outright violation

1:04:33.490,1:04:38.710
of it it it mutes it uh uh you can keep

1:04:37.270,1:04:40.630
and bear with other arms you want unless

1:04:38.710,1:04:43.180
we decide that you aren't in immediate

1:04:40.630,1:04:45.849
danger raise your hand if you've ever

1:04:43.180,1:04:47.830
been in immediate danger and had the

1:04:45.849,1:04:54.119
opportunity to fill out multiple forms

1:04:47.830,1:05:00.520
and mail them in get them notarized no

1:04:54.119,1:05:01.869
ok so instead what states have been left

1:05:00.520,1:05:04.930
with and what courts have been left with

1:05:01.869,1:05:07.450
is a two-step inquiry incorporating

1:05:04.930,1:05:10.270
tiers of scrutiny on a sliding scale

1:05:07.450,1:05:12.580
you know first ask whether the challenge

1:05:10.270,1:05:16.510
law burdens conduct protected by the

1:05:12.580,1:05:18.730
Second Amendment and then if so it

1:05:16.510,1:05:21.580
proceeds to the second step determining

1:05:18.730,1:05:25.720
the appropriate level of scrutiny which

1:05:21.580,1:05:27.280
is just completely arbitrary right to do

1:05:25.720,1:05:29.470
so of course generally consider how

1:05:27.280,1:05:31.270
close the law comes to the core of the

1:05:29.470,1:05:37.750
second Amendment right and the severity

1:05:31.270,1:05:39.640
of the laws burden on the right I'm not

1:05:37.750,1:05:46.030
sure stuff Thomas Benton has a question

1:05:39.640,1:05:49.150
or if he's high-fiving us he's hi fine

1:05:46.030,1:05:50.710
okay I was like is he raising his hand I

1:05:49.150,1:05:52.720
don't I don't know what ease do well

1:05:50.710,1:05:55.000
maybe is this is a he it's like when

1:05:52.720,1:05:56.530
we're on zoom' right if you have a

1:05:55.000,1:05:59.820
question you really don't have to raise

1:05:56.530,1:05:59.820
your hand you can just put it out there

1:06:04.020,1:06:07.960
like you know like spike said test is

1:06:06.369,1:06:09.369
completely arbitrary depending on the

1:06:07.960,1:06:10.810
court that it goes through if you're

1:06:09.369,1:06:12.190
going through the Ninth Circuit if

1:06:10.810,1:06:13.810
you're going through the Southern

1:06:12.190,1:06:16.390
District of New York depending on where

1:06:13.810,1:06:20.859
you're going through will depend on what

1:06:16.390,1:06:23.440
scrutiny these laws get had the Supreme

1:06:20.859,1:06:25.990
Court done their job with Heller which

1:06:23.440,1:06:28.240
they didn't they don't know yeah there

1:06:25.990,1:06:30.539
would be at least be a general framework

1:06:28.240,1:06:33.039
that they should be far

1:06:30.539,1:06:35.380
but they did not have the foresight that

1:06:33.039,1:06:37.269
this would be that this would be taken

1:06:35.380,1:06:42.609
advantage of in Rogers versus green wall

1:06:37.269,1:06:46.929
would have been an opportunity to

1:06:42.609,1:06:49.809
rectify everything but even Thomas in

1:06:46.929,1:06:51.579
his own words states this case gives us

1:06:49.809,1:06:53.229
an opportunity to provide lower courts

1:06:51.579,1:06:56.349
with much needed guidance ensure

1:06:53.229,1:06:59.439
adherence to our precedents and resolve

1:06:56.349,1:07:01.689
a circuit split each of these reasons is

1:06:59.439,1:07:06.900
independently sufficient to grant

1:07:01.689,1:07:09.309
certiorari so in combination they

1:07:06.900,1:07:11.380
unequivocally demonstrate that this case

1:07:09.309,1:07:13.449
warrants our review rather than

1:07:11.380,1:07:15.039
prolonging our decade-long failure to

1:07:13.449,1:07:17.619
protect the Second Amendment I would

1:07:15.039,1:07:20.789
grant this petition Oh our decade-long

1:07:17.619,1:07:29.229
failure to protect the Second Amendment

1:07:20.789,1:07:33.099
ouch this is a sassy Thomas sassy

1:07:29.229,1:07:36.160
Clarence sassy Clarence caddie Clarence

1:07:33.099,1:07:40.509
caddie Clarence Howard I mean he's not

1:07:36.160,1:07:45.009
wrong our decade-long failure to protect

1:07:40.509,1:07:47.650
the Second Amendment and instead faced

1:07:45.009,1:07:50.259
with a petition challenging such a

1:07:47.650,1:07:52.989
restriction on citizens second Amendment

1:07:50.259,1:07:56.199
rights the court simply looks the other

1:07:52.989,1:08:00.309
way this is someone who is not pleased

1:07:56.199,1:08:03.759
Matt yes he is definitely not pleased he

1:08:00.309,1:08:08.410
is not happy and he and he's telling us

1:08:03.759,1:08:10.390
yeah so again not the biggest writer

1:08:08.410,1:08:12.130
this guy not the biggest question asker

1:08:10.390,1:08:13.420
either and apparently according to

1:08:12.130,1:08:14.949
personal injury attorney Chris Reynolds

1:08:13.420,1:08:17.589
attorney at law he falls asleep

1:08:14.949,1:08:20.109
sometimes but the man's sleep

1:08:17.589,1:08:22.719
let the man sleep he's a busy man if

1:08:20.109,1:08:25.059
this is what is if this is what nap time

1:08:22.719,1:08:27.460
gets us for him from him then he can

1:08:25.059,1:08:30.299
have all the naps he needs 20 years

1:08:27.460,1:08:33.040
worth of naps got him it's working

1:08:30.299,1:08:34.449
let the man have his nap time and if he

1:08:33.040,1:08:37.960
keeps putting out quality stuff like

1:08:34.449,1:08:40.650
this then I'll change my thing about you

1:08:37.960,1:08:42.790
know replacing the Supreme Court with

1:08:40.650,1:08:43.420
Reginald and I'll just replace it with

1:08:42.790,1:08:46.839
him

1:08:43.420,1:08:49.750
I mean he's got he's got a long way to

1:08:46.839,1:08:54.810
go for that but Craig decosta thank you

1:08:49.750,1:08:59.560
it's sir she married sir she's very Oh

1:08:54.810,1:09:01.480
fury how do you say gruel that's a name

1:08:59.560,1:09:03.730
that's really up to the person also

1:09:01.480,1:09:06.310
Vanessa fuller thank you for tuning in

1:09:03.730,1:09:09.130
first time first time researching the

1:09:06.310,1:09:12.190
party excited to support us I'm assuming

1:09:09.130,1:09:16.540
it's you but you know I'm taking it guy

1:09:12.190,1:09:18.369
on left your guy on right so I'm pretty

1:09:16.540,1:09:19.509
sure are your guy on left and I'm spike

1:09:18.369,1:09:21.429
Owen and you

1:09:19.509,1:09:26.109
not according me the person who missed

1:09:21.429,1:09:27.580
those dick things oh that's right yeah

1:09:26.109,1:09:29.469
you were guy on right he said kept

1:09:27.580,1:09:37.839
saying guy on right well he left guy on

1:09:29.469,1:09:40.389
left talked and you are the power um so

1:09:37.839,1:09:45.250
yes no that's I mean hopefully we get

1:09:40.389,1:09:47.230
more great stuff from Clarence Thomas

1:09:45.250,1:09:48.400
but it's so rare for us to get great

1:09:47.230,1:09:50.500
stuff and sometimes we're left without

1:09:48.400,1:09:54.009
any great stuff and speaking of which

1:09:50.500,1:09:55.900
this is usually the time for the

1:09:54.009,1:09:56.860
personal injury attorney Chris Reynolds

1:09:55.900,1:10:01.480
attorney at law

1:09:56.860,1:10:02.050
Anker callin moment but actually hang on

1:10:01.480,1:10:05.409
a second

1:10:02.050,1:10:09.550
I was just reminded of something that I

1:10:05.409,1:10:12.070
have kept from our dear friend Ross

1:10:09.550,1:10:15.880
Keenum who is watching on YouTube he

1:10:12.070,1:10:17.170
mailed us and I had forgotten because

1:10:15.880,1:10:20.949
it's Saturday

1:10:17.170,1:10:22.300
well now I'm marginally less angry well

1:10:20.949,1:10:25.840
yeah

1:10:22.300,1:10:27.460
so he said Matt I've never tried kava

1:10:25.840,1:10:29.380
but it's been on my radar for a while

1:10:27.460,1:10:31.360
are there any brands you'd recommend and

1:10:29.380,1:10:34.000
how would you recommend a newbie prepare

1:10:31.360,1:10:37.270
it spike are you loyal to kroger brand

1:10:34.000,1:10:41.199
water and you ever venture into the

1:10:37.270,1:10:44.080
world of exotic Seltzer's I like a nice

1:10:41.199,1:10:48.610
seltzer I tend to like I mean I am

1:10:44.080,1:10:50.320
Jewish no I'm not loyal to Kroger I just

1:10:48.610,1:10:53.199
get Kroger cuz we can usually we get

1:10:50.320,1:10:55.030
these things in the mail because we shop

1:10:53.199,1:10:56.829
a Kroger so much and they give us like

1:10:55.030,1:10:59.889
either free Kroger bought

1:10:56.829,1:11:03.040
free packs of Kroger water again Jewish

1:10:59.889,1:11:04.570
or a dollar off or whatever and they're

1:11:03.040,1:11:07.840
already cheap so I just get a lot of

1:11:04.570,1:11:10.840
these but we also I have I often doula

1:11:07.840,1:11:15.699
blue water which is both kosher and made

1:11:10.840,1:11:17.920
in America just like me and I do the

1:11:15.699,1:11:19.719
Costco water like Costco water and yeah

1:11:17.920,1:11:21.820
I do like a nice seltzer I've been

1:11:19.719,1:11:24.159
drinking seltzer a lot recently but I do

1:11:21.820,1:11:25.630
like seltzer and then only I didn't get

1:11:24.159,1:11:28.869
into seltzer until I quit drinking

1:11:25.630,1:11:32.710
alcohol and now a nice seltzer with some

1:11:28.869,1:11:34.329
lime in it I it's very refreshing there

1:11:32.710,1:11:36.250
are a lot of like former like reformed

1:11:34.329,1:11:37.540
winos who say they'll drink seltzer

1:11:36.250,1:11:38.889
would like you know some fruit or

1:11:37.540,1:11:41.800
something and it kind of get a similar

1:11:38.889,1:11:43.360
cuz it cuz it's not even the you know

1:11:41.800,1:11:45.309
the high that they miss as much as just

1:11:43.360,1:11:47.650
the you know that Tang and the and the

1:11:45.309,1:11:49.270
taste or whatever so it has a similar I

1:11:47.650,1:11:51.790
mean it's not the same as wine or or

1:11:49.270,1:11:53.949
champagne but it it can you kind of

1:11:51.790,1:11:55.900
trick yourself a little bit and I and I

1:11:53.949,1:11:58.030
did respond to him about the cava but

1:11:55.900,1:12:00.489
I'll tell anybody else out there because

1:11:58.030,1:12:04.300
he asked me about other and what's any

1:12:00.489,1:12:10.889
brands I would recommend knock them all

1:12:04.300,1:12:14.320
at home that's in aka mal ATH ome calm

1:12:10.889,1:12:17.110
noch amol at home is where I buy all of

1:12:14.320,1:12:18.639
my cava powder from they have a lot of

1:12:17.110,1:12:21.690
different types that you can pick up

1:12:18.639,1:12:24.820
they are not a sponsor of the show yet

1:12:21.690,1:12:27.670
working on it but it should be they

1:12:24.820,1:12:28.989
should be but they they have a lot of

1:12:27.670,1:12:31.540
different types that you can get my

1:12:28.989,1:12:35.710
personal favorite is the white sand also

1:12:31.540,1:12:37.449
known as like a mind cava kind of helps

1:12:35.710,1:12:39.880
with creativity and clearing out the

1:12:37.449,1:12:44.230
cobwebs up there oh I thought you meant

1:12:39.880,1:12:49.809
mind like they mind it no no it's a

1:12:44.230,1:12:51.309
really a mind Kaabah so that is my

1:12:49.809,1:12:52.570
personal favorite he also asked how to

1:12:51.309,1:12:55.690
make it if you follow the directions

1:12:52.570,1:12:57.849
that come with it it it's good and if

1:12:55.690,1:13:00.579
anybody does go to noch amol at home

1:12:57.849,1:13:03.790
just say that Matt from muddied waters

1:13:00.579,1:13:06.849
sent you and hopefully they will be more

1:13:03.790,1:13:07.929
inclined to sponsor us yeah really

1:13:06.849,1:13:11.019
because that would be nice to have

1:13:07.929,1:13:12.940
another another sponsor for that

1:13:11.019,1:13:16.510
well good so that's that's a short

1:13:12.940,1:13:18.550
segment right the critter which is fine

1:13:16.510,1:13:21.519
because miss rennolds attorney-at-law

1:13:18.550,1:13:24.340
anchor : moment received no collins but

1:13:21.519,1:13:25.690
we did get in email we got an email in

1:13:24.340,1:13:27.429
that's nice but we didn't even get

1:13:25.690,1:13:29.260
anything from the laser legend or the

1:13:27.429,1:13:31.289
space pony but whatever whatever it's

1:13:29.260,1:13:34.059
fine I don't care

1:13:31.289,1:13:36.969
speaking of disappointments John Bolton

1:13:34.059,1:13:39.210
famed murderer and former White House

1:13:36.969,1:13:41.980
National Security Advisor John Bolton he

1:13:39.210,1:13:45.999
he had a little bit of a kerfuffle this

1:13:41.980,1:13:54.130
week didn't he met he did have a little

1:13:45.999,1:13:55.539
bit of a kerfuffle found itself in a bit

1:13:54.130,1:13:58.539
of a legal battle with the Trump

1:13:55.539,1:14:02.530
administration over his new book the

1:13:58.539,1:14:05.159
room where it happened the room where it

1:14:02.530,1:14:05.159
happened

1:14:07.590,1:14:17.170
obviously a ripped off line from the

1:14:11.369,1:14:18.940
famous play Hamilton and looking like it

1:14:17.170,1:14:23.170
stars Jennifer Love Hewitt

1:14:18.940,1:14:26.590
lor Ryan Philip a and Sarah Michelle

1:14:23.170,1:14:28.840
Gellar and John Bolton and John Bolton

1:14:26.590,1:14:33.309
of course this is the book cover by the

1:14:28.840,1:14:37.840
way if that's the book cover I would buy

1:14:33.309,1:14:39.969
it I would want a rare miss from

1:14:37.840,1:14:42.249
whatever publisher published this book

1:14:39.969,1:14:48.159
what a great opportunity to sell way

1:14:42.249,1:14:50.650
more books if if our our fans over in

1:14:48.159,1:14:53.889
Ireland are questioning whether that's

1:14:50.650,1:14:58.059
real or not it's not it's definitely

1:14:53.889,1:15:03.760
real that is that is this is on all the

1:14:58.059,1:15:08.079
bookshelves right now available on

1:15:03.760,1:15:12.400
Kindle available on audible read by John

1:15:08.079,1:15:19.860
Bolton read by John Bolton himself with

1:15:12.400,1:15:19.860
a with a with a foreword by Donald Trump

1:15:20.070,1:15:24.659
that I would get that

1:15:24.849,1:15:31.590
would be able to get the foreword by

1:15:27.520,1:15:31.590
Donald Trump before reading about the

1:15:31.739,1:15:36.099
stupidest book what a loser and then you

1:15:35.139,1:15:39.159
have him come on

1:15:36.099,1:15:42.429
oh man sorry go ahead

1:15:39.159,1:15:46.300
so after the week-long battle

1:15:42.429,1:15:51.639
US District Judge US District Judge Roy

1:15:46.300,1:15:53.440
Lamberth a regon appointee allowed it to

1:15:51.639,1:15:56.619
come out allowed what to come out the

1:15:53.440,1:15:58.719
book the book so they were trying to

1:15:56.619,1:16:02.429
keep the book from coming out yeah they

1:15:58.719,1:16:06.909
were saying that it violated NDA's and

1:16:02.429,1:16:08.469
security oh those Trump mdn DA's that

1:16:06.909,1:16:09.790
even if you volunteer for him you have

1:16:08.469,1:16:11.170
to like sign this thing saying you'll

1:16:09.790,1:16:13.420
never say anything bad about them or

1:16:11.170,1:16:16.030
some ridiculous thing I'm certain it's

1:16:13.420,1:16:18.670
probably more of a governmental okay

1:16:16.030,1:16:19.960
okay okay all right national security

1:16:18.670,1:16:25.920
adviser to the White House

1:16:19.960,1:16:31.900
okay so then according to Jennifer Slade

1:16:25.920,1:16:33.280
I of the New York Times she's probably

1:16:31.900,1:16:36.280
gonna end up like interviewing me and

1:16:33.280,1:16:39.780
not and not in a friendly way after that

1:16:36.280,1:16:43.360
the book is real quick Caitlin Carnahan

1:16:39.780,1:16:45.340
welcome to the show new to

1:16:43.360,1:16:48.070
libertarianism glad glad you are here

1:16:45.340,1:16:50.889
yeah thank you for joining us here in

1:16:48.070,1:16:53.040
joining us yes thank you no now watch as

1:16:50.889,1:16:58.329
I butcher this poor woman's name

1:16:53.040,1:17:01.090
according to Jennifer Saad is it just

1:16:58.329,1:17:06.099
Allah I think it's just y'all are July

1:17:01.090,1:17:10.449
shed I of the New York Times the book is

1:17:06.099,1:17:13.060
bloated with self-importance even though

1:17:10.449,1:17:15.489
what it mostly recounts is Bolton not

1:17:13.060,1:17:19.770
being able to accomplish very much it

1:17:15.489,1:17:22.510
toggles between two discordant registers

1:17:19.770,1:17:25.119
exceedingly tedious and slightly

1:17:22.510,1:17:27.909
unhinged and now I believe that this

1:17:25.119,1:17:31.119
cover is more perfect than ever for this

1:17:27.909,1:17:34.739
book yet basically based on that it's

1:17:31.119,1:17:38.500
John Bolton in a book in a book both

1:17:34.739,1:17:41.350
exceedingly decently tedious and

1:17:38.500,1:17:45.370
little unhinged that is the foreign

1:17:41.350,1:17:50.260
policy john bolton just really really

1:17:45.370,1:17:55.870
like unnecessarily detailed and also

1:17:50.260,1:17:59.370
insane at the same time it's like OCD if

1:17:55.870,1:18:01.290
it was a person yes but like malignant

1:17:59.370,1:18:08.230
obsessive compulsive personality

1:18:01.290,1:18:14.760
disorder if it were a person only would

1:18:08.230,1:18:18.190
that kind of imbalance in effect and and

1:18:14.760,1:18:24.310
presentation could someone in the 2020s

1:18:18.190,1:18:29.260
have that mustache which does nothing

1:18:24.310,1:18:31.240
for his face that's what matters here

1:18:29.260,1:18:34.510
the only thing I can think is he has

1:18:31.240,1:18:37.410
like a scar that he's covered that's it

1:18:34.510,1:18:44.590
that's all I got a scar would be

1:18:37.410,1:18:47.770
markedly better than this risk a scar

1:18:44.590,1:18:49.720
would be much I'd like to say along man

1:18:47.770,1:18:50.650
he looks unless your Wilford Brimley

1:18:49.720,1:18:54.160
don't do that

1:18:50.650,1:18:56.140
is welcome Wow he's ripping I'm Wilford

1:18:54.160,1:18:58.390
Brimley yeah I don't know if Wilford

1:18:56.140,1:19:00.880
Brimley's still alive he might be he is

1:18:58.390,1:19:03.250
alive he's still alive okay yeah I

1:19:00.880,1:19:07.510
haven't seen a diabetes commercial in a

1:19:03.250,1:19:09.220
while I mean now everyone knows where to

1:19:07.510,1:19:14.680
get it it was so effective everyone

1:19:09.220,1:19:17.940
knows to go to Liberty Medical so they

1:19:14.680,1:19:21.370
don't need to spend the money anymore

1:19:17.940,1:19:24.690
what so according to John Bolton Trump's

1:19:21.370,1:19:24.690
talks with President

1:19:28.780,1:19:39.280
hey Matt what did John Bolten say about

1:19:31.300,1:19:42.190
Trump in China uh according to John

1:19:39.280,1:19:46.059
Bolton Tran stocks with famed Winnie the

1:19:42.190,1:19:49.809
Pooh impersonator president Z G were

1:19:46.059,1:19:53.199
transactional during trade talks from

1:19:49.809,1:19:55.840
turned the conversation it to the coming

1:19:53.199,1:19:58.449
US presidential election alluding to

1:19:55.840,1:20:00.909
China's economic capability to affect

1:19:58.449,1:20:06.159
the ongoing campaigns pleading with you

1:20:00.909,1:20:09.249
to ensure he'd win are you telling me

1:20:06.159,1:20:10.809
that Donald Trump is transactional in

1:20:09.249,1:20:15.070
his conversations with people in

1:20:10.809,1:20:17.590
tremendous positions of power that well

1:20:15.070,1:20:20.920
I'm not saying that Jim I refuse to

1:20:17.590,1:20:22.869
believe this John Bolton is saying that

1:20:20.920,1:20:25.289
I I refuse to believe this man's

1:20:22.869,1:20:29.340
mustache or the person attached to it

1:20:25.289,1:20:33.369
when he says that Donald Trump is

1:20:29.340,1:20:35.079
meeting with officials and trying to

1:20:33.369,1:20:39.340
leverage it for his own personal gain

1:20:35.079,1:20:42.389
how dare you Jennifer Love Hewitt Ryan

1:20:39.340,1:20:47.559
Philippe and Sarah Michelle Gellar and

1:20:42.389,1:20:49.030
also oh I forget no I'm not looking at

1:20:47.559,1:20:49.989
his face now cuz I've replaced it and

1:20:49.030,1:20:58.599
now I can't remember his name

1:20:49.989,1:21:01.499
um Wilford Brimley oh who is that is

1:20:58.599,1:21:05.969
that Freddie Prinze yes Freddie Prinze

1:21:01.499,1:21:05.969
Freddie Prinze jr. Freddie Prinze jr.

1:21:07.710,1:21:12.729
Bolton also writes I would print Trump's

1:21:11.229,1:21:14.499
exact words but the government

1:21:12.729,1:21:19.690
pre-publication review process has

1:21:14.499,1:21:22.119
decided otherwise so he's not allowed to

1:21:19.690,1:21:23.739
say what Trump allegedly said on these

1:21:22.119,1:21:25.749
calls because the government will not

1:21:23.739,1:21:29.889
let him also real quick there was an

1:21:25.749,1:21:31.090
article in The Washington Times I don't

1:21:29.889,1:21:32.289
remember who said it because I didn't

1:21:31.090,1:21:34.630
put it in the notes but it had the

1:21:32.289,1:21:41.469
greatest phrase I've ever heard

1:21:34.630,1:21:42.400
oh yeah yes John Bolton's John Bolton's

1:21:41.469,1:21:44.770
new book is

1:21:42.400,1:21:47.290
the equivalent of deep state revenge

1:21:44.770,1:21:51.989
porn and the fact that I know that

1:21:47.290,1:21:56.620
phrase now and is in my head forever

1:21:51.989,1:22:02.440
brings me so much joy deep state revenge

1:21:56.620,1:22:05.650
porn yeah it was it was a deep no deep

1:22:02.440,1:22:10.690
swamp revenge porn Oh deep swamp or deep

1:22:05.650,1:22:16.090
swamp revenge porn that is what this is

1:22:10.690,1:22:19.030
about yes it's a deep swamp revenge soft

1:22:16.090,1:22:23.980
porn featuring Freddie Prinze jr. and

1:22:19.030,1:22:25.960
Ryan Phillippe a and John Bolton so you

1:22:23.980,1:22:28.810
can imagine what that would look like um

1:22:25.960,1:22:32.560
oh I should probably I can probably take

1:22:28.810,1:22:35.710
that off now so yes so Bolton states

1:22:32.560,1:22:38.469
that Trump had no idea the UK was a

1:22:35.710,1:22:40.719
nuclear power and he did not know that

1:22:38.469,1:22:46.300
Finland was not a part of Russia dear

1:22:40.719,1:22:49.810
Lord no it's sad like all of this stuff

1:22:46.300,1:22:51.449
believe it's all like I was like there

1:22:49.810,1:22:54.489
is no way that's true but then again

1:22:51.449,1:22:56.860
this is the president who forgot that

1:22:54.489,1:22:59.890
the Kansas City Chiefs didn't come from

1:22:56.860,1:23:01.510
Kansas yeah that's also true this is a

1:22:59.890,1:23:04.030
man who thought he could just take a

1:23:01.510,1:23:07.120
sharpie and add it to a a cone of

1:23:04.030,1:23:10.360
uncertainty for a hurricane to prove

1:23:07.120,1:23:12.460
that he had what what a weird flex he

1:23:10.360,1:23:14.949
mistakenly put a state that was

1:23:12.460,1:23:16.600
reasonably nearby that any person could

1:23:14.949,1:23:18.909
have thought Alabama was also in its

1:23:16.600,1:23:20.980
crosshairs and instead of just go oh I

1:23:18.909,1:23:22.719
accidentally put Alabama he went and

1:23:20.980,1:23:25.000
like added this stupid thing to the end

1:23:22.719,1:23:27.730
with a sharpie on this and see look it's

1:23:25.000,1:23:30.219
here even though that was never on no

1:23:27.730,1:23:32.380
where else was that was that even there

1:23:30.219,1:23:35.350
and and nor would that be what it would

1:23:32.380,1:23:36.790
look like because each circle is bigger

1:23:35.350,1:23:38.199
than the ones before it and this was

1:23:36.790,1:23:41.380
just some little thing he added on the

1:23:38.199,1:23:45.100
side like this is the kind of minute so

1:23:41.380,1:23:47.860
ya know I I'm not surprised to hear that

1:23:45.100,1:23:50.440
he didn't know that the UK was a nuclear

1:23:47.860,1:23:51.420
power or that poem was not a part of

1:23:50.440,1:23:56.850
Russia

1:23:51.420,1:24:00.790
so Bolton being reasonably intelligent

1:23:56.850,1:24:03.400
he put the chapter on Ukraine last in

1:24:00.790,1:24:07.750
order to make sure people would read all

1:24:03.400,1:24:09.880
the way to the end but anymore Boulton

1:24:07.750,1:24:12.880
declines to offer and this is according

1:24:09.880,1:24:15.610
to Jennifer July declines to offer

1:24:12.880,1:24:18.100
anything comparatively vivid in his own

1:24:15.610,1:24:21.310
book taking cover and what he depicts as

1:24:18.100,1:24:23.230
his own bewilderment so instead of

1:24:21.310,1:24:26.980
saying hey this isn't right

1:24:23.230,1:24:30.130
hey this is wrong he sat back mouthy gay

1:24:26.980,1:24:33.280
making his mustache stretch further down

1:24:30.130,1:24:36.310
I guess are you are you describing the

1:24:33.280,1:24:37.420
deep swamp revenge porn as it played out

1:24:36.310,1:24:41.080
yeah

1:24:37.420,1:24:45.190
and mouth pop leave that Donald Trump

1:24:41.080,1:24:52.150
would do this why would he not believe

1:24:45.190,1:24:54.400
that oh no I haven't read the book you

1:24:52.150,1:24:56.290
too will find out while it why he didn't

1:24:54.400,1:25:02.410
think so when you get the room where it

1:24:56.290,1:25:04.420
happened the room sponsor my great

1:25:02.410,1:25:06.880
published by it is that like well whose

1:25:04.420,1:25:11.680
public I want to know anyway go ahead

1:25:06.880,1:25:17.350
um well Bolton allegedly found Trump's

1:25:11.680,1:25:19.150
conduct deeply disturbing it was the

1:25:17.350,1:25:21.219
Democratic controlled house that was

1:25:19.150,1:25:23.020
guilty of impeachment malpractice

1:25:21.219,1:25:25.270
meaning he's playing both sides of the

1:25:23.020,1:25:28.420
coin here like he's playing both sides

1:25:25.270,1:25:30.790
of the field this is like a heads I win

1:25:28.420,1:25:33.610
tails you lose situation for him instead

1:25:30.790,1:25:36.130
of a comprehensive investigation they

1:25:33.610,1:25:38.320
seemed more they seemed governed more by

1:25:36.130,1:25:40.030
their own political imperatives to move

1:25:38.320,1:25:42.400
swiftly to vote on articles of

1:25:40.030,1:25:45.370
impeachment I mean he's kind of not

1:25:42.400,1:25:46.719
wrong he's not wrong he says that they

1:25:45.370,1:25:49.870
should have broaden their inquiry to

1:25:46.719,1:25:53.760
include hawk Bank which is the turkish

1:25:49.870,1:26:00.760
bank that president murdered was

1:25:53.760,1:26:04.600
involved with and ZTE the Chinese

1:26:00.760,1:26:09.360
telecom company that president Winnie

1:26:04.600,1:26:09.360
the Pooh impersonator she

1:26:10.320,1:26:18.900
ermahgerd are murdered Bolton's and

1:26:16.340,1:26:21.810
Bolton's book might actually be factual

1:26:18.900,1:26:25.770
it might be factual all the way to last

1:26:21.810,1:26:28.739
detail right but this is a man who never

1:26:25.770,1:26:31.139
ever went to Congress about the issues

1:26:28.739,1:26:34.139
that he had he never said hey he's doing

1:26:31.139,1:26:35.010
this with Hulk Bank or he's doing this

1:26:34.139,1:26:38.070
with ZTE

1:26:35.010,1:26:39.840
or he did this with Ukraine but he never

1:26:38.070,1:26:41.520
said anything even under subpoena which

1:26:39.840,1:26:43.949
he was then told he couldn't like he

1:26:41.520,1:26:46.260
could have gone to them outside of the

1:26:43.949,1:26:49.679
subpoena he could have gone if you

1:26:46.260,1:26:52.340
couldn't just told him right he could he

1:26:49.679,1:26:59.429
could have done this but he chose not to

1:26:52.340,1:27:03.239
now the most eye-opening statement that

1:26:59.429,1:27:06.000
he states in this book the real turning

1:27:03.239,1:27:08.250
point for him in the administration is

1:27:06.000,1:27:13.619
also the one that makes me kind of doubt

1:27:08.250,1:27:15.619
that much of this is true or it is true

1:27:13.619,1:27:20.010
and he's just doing it for a quick buck

1:27:15.619,1:27:22.469
I mean this honestly I could see this

1:27:20.010,1:27:25.469
really pissed him off I do well yes

1:27:22.469,1:27:28.889
obviously like all that all the

1:27:25.469,1:27:31.829
corruption and idiocy I saw it makes

1:27:28.889,1:27:35.040
obspec peace with that but this how dare

1:27:31.829,1:27:40.139
you sir pisses me off this is why I

1:27:35.040,1:27:42.659
write an entire book I'm covering a book

1:27:40.139,1:27:44.219
now I'm gonna write an entire book I

1:27:42.659,1:27:47.880
tell you in a journal when you're mad

1:27:44.219,1:27:49.949
journals so he journaled and now it's

1:27:47.880,1:27:55.290
hitting published by Simon & Schuster

1:27:49.949,1:27:57.540
yes the thing that really pissed him off

1:27:55.290,1:28:00.090
had to do with the attack on Iran that

1:27:57.540,1:28:08.010
to Bolton's abject disappointment did

1:28:00.090,1:28:09.989
not happen in June 20 29 last June June

1:28:08.010,1:28:12.630
we talked about this on the we thought

1:28:09.989,1:28:14.489
yeah yeah we talked about this quite a

1:28:12.630,1:28:17.099
bit yeah

1:28:14.489,1:28:20.309
Iran had shot down an unmanned American

1:28:17.099,1:28:22.340
drone and Bolton who has always

1:28:20.309,1:28:23.940
championed what he proudly called

1:28:22.340,1:28:26.070
disproportionate response

1:28:23.940,1:28:33.420
urghhh Trump to bomb Iran as he wanted

1:28:26.070,1:28:36.000
to since the 80s but actually Bolton in

1:28:33.420,1:28:38.430
the book Bolton describes going home to

1:28:36.000,1:28:39.870
pick up an extra set of clothes because

1:28:38.430,1:28:43.560
he knew it was gonna be a long night at

1:28:39.870,1:28:46.770
the White House and then talks about how

1:28:43.560,1:28:50.880
sad he was because at 5:30 when he

1:28:46.770,1:28:53.340
showed up he was shocked to find out

1:28:50.880,1:28:55.380
that Trump decided to call off the

1:28:53.340,1:28:56.910
strikes at the very last minute learning

1:28:55.380,1:29:01.370
it would kill as many as a hundred and

1:28:56.910,1:29:07.230
fifty people because credit to trump

1:29:01.370,1:29:11.160
they shot down a robot that was possibly

1:29:07.230,1:29:13.410
probably over their airspace or at the

1:29:11.160,1:29:16.320
very least really really really close to

1:29:13.410,1:29:17.040
it nearly closed like a matter of a

1:29:16.320,1:29:18.870
couple miles

1:29:17.040,1:29:21.120
it was either two or three miles this

1:29:18.870,1:29:24.030
way or two or three miles this way and

1:29:21.120,1:29:26.489
it was a robot and they knew it was a

1:29:24.030,1:29:29.130
robot and they were basically saying hey

1:29:26.489,1:29:31.620
back off with your robots and john

1:29:29.130,1:29:36.120
bolton wanted to launch a strike that

1:29:31.620,1:29:37.710
would have killed dozens of people and

1:29:36.120,1:29:39.570
the thing is when we when we when we

1:29:37.710,1:29:41.969
talk about war you know something like

1:29:39.570,1:29:43.380
150 doesn't sound like much because

1:29:41.969,1:29:45.300
we're used to hearing about you know

1:29:43.380,1:29:47.969
thousands or tens of thousands of killed

1:29:45.300,1:29:53.610
and more just think for a moment about

1:29:47.969,1:29:56.670
if al-qaeda or Isis killed a hundred and

1:29:53.610,1:30:00.719
fifty people in the United States or if

1:29:56.670,1:30:03.530
a foreign military attacked and killed a

1:30:00.719,1:30:06.300
hundred and fifty people in the u.s.

1:30:03.530,1:30:08.969
that's what john bolton wanted over them

1:30:06.300,1:30:11.910
shooting down a robot that was probably

1:30:08.969,1:30:15.420
flying over their airspace so so imagine

1:30:11.910,1:30:17.430
you there's a drone flying like 20 miles

1:30:15.420,1:30:19.320
from the coast of new york or five miles

1:30:17.430,1:30:21.840
six miles whatever from the coast of New

1:30:19.320,1:30:25.199
York it gets shot down and so the

1:30:21.840,1:30:28.469
Chinese military launches you know air

1:30:25.199,1:30:29.910
strike that kills 150 New Yorkers that's

1:30:28.469,1:30:35.540
what john bolton wanted to start with

1:30:29.910,1:30:35.540
iran to his credit Trump did not do that

1:30:36.349,1:30:42.889
now I didn't even think about this but

1:30:38.690,1:30:44.540
uh it says that Bolton describes going

1:30:42.889,1:30:46.550
home at about 5:30 for change clothes

1:30:44.540,1:30:48.469
because he expected to be at the white

1:30:46.550,1:30:51.409
house all night I got 20 bucks it was

1:30:48.469,1:30:55.040
onesie I think he was thinking

1:30:51.409,1:30:56.780
presidential sleepover Oh like the puppy

1:30:55.040,1:30:59.510
oh and there's like I bet he bought it

1:30:56.780,1:31:02.690
do you think he got his own pillow yeah

1:30:59.510,1:31:07.010
he brought his Wilford Brimley bear the

1:31:02.690,1:31:10.310
one that looks like him and brought a

1:31:07.010,1:31:12.889
pillow maybe maybe a robe throw on the

1:31:10.310,1:31:15.230
onesie he was ready stuff Dinosaur Land

1:31:12.889,1:31:17.989
Before Time dinosaur and he wasn't

1:31:15.230,1:31:20.449
actually upset about the saving 150

1:31:17.989,1:31:22.900
innocent lives he was upset that he did

1:31:20.449,1:31:24.829
not get his presidential sleepover oh

1:31:22.900,1:31:27.170
well that makes sense

1:31:24.829,1:31:29.000
what makes more sense that makes a lot

1:31:27.170,1:31:30.560
more sense that actually makes sense cuz

1:31:29.000,1:31:31.639
you get all worked up I remember you

1:31:30.560,1:31:35.619
don't get like I'm having a sleepover

1:31:31.639,1:31:41.260
it's like oh no Timmy sick oh yeah

1:31:35.619,1:31:43.310
Timmy's going out I'm already yeah

1:31:41.260,1:31:45.560
and so then your parents make like a

1:31:43.310,1:31:47.719
pillow fort downstairs but he didn't

1:31:45.560,1:31:49.790
have that no he didn't get the pillow

1:31:47.719,1:31:50.929
for it because he accidentally left his

1:31:49.790,1:31:55.670
pillow at the White House

1:31:50.929,1:31:57.230
oh so then he gets there he goes okay

1:31:55.670,1:31:58.730
fine and he leaves the pillow there he

1:31:57.230,1:32:01.760
goes home he said well at least I got my

1:31:58.730,1:32:06.650
pillow and then he didn't any so he

1:32:01.760,1:32:08.000
starts writing a book yeah I mean that

1:32:06.650,1:32:08.900
makes this make a little this puts a

1:32:08.000,1:32:12.230
human touch to it

1:32:08.900,1:32:16.849
this is the kind of man mad man who

1:32:12.230,1:32:19.219
wrote a book about another madman who is

1:32:16.849,1:32:21.920
currently bunching like 20,000 people

1:32:19.219,1:32:24.980
into a building together during a

1:32:21.920,1:32:27.829
pandemic on a date that he had to have

1:32:24.980,1:32:32.389
changed after scheduling it to be on

1:32:27.829,1:32:34.790
Juneteenth in Tulsa Oklahoma were the

1:32:32.389,1:32:41.150
single greatest race Massacre in

1:32:34.790,1:32:42.980
American history has happened that's

1:32:41.150,1:32:47.020
what this whole story that we just spent

1:32:42.980,1:32:50.239
I think like 40 minutes on was about

1:32:47.020,1:32:52.999
basically this is the story of 210

1:32:50.239,1:32:54.679
herbal individuals and in the notes I

1:32:52.999,1:32:56.239
literally wrote and now I'm pissed I

1:32:54.679,1:33:00.530
spent this long reading up about this

1:32:56.239,1:33:04.239
story about angry the one redeeming

1:33:00.530,1:33:06.499
thing was that we got to use this and

1:33:04.239,1:33:09.860
that we got to talk about the pillow for

1:33:06.499,1:33:16.880
those alone made this somewhat

1:33:09.860,1:33:18.079
redeemable say Sean Bresnahan Sean

1:33:16.880,1:33:20.510
Bresnahan says they were gonna make

1:33:18.079,1:33:23.119
friendship bracelets bolts and Donnie

1:33:20.510,1:33:24.199
forever which well and and see so we

1:33:23.119,1:33:25.460
should have known that that was gonna

1:33:24.199,1:33:29.030
happen because Donald Trump would never

1:33:25.460,1:33:31.159
do that so well I mean Donald Trump will

1:33:29.030,1:33:33.380
say anything it's just whether or not oh

1:33:31.159,1:33:34.699
no he would have said he'd do that but I

1:33:33.380,1:33:36.019
would have known it if Donald Trump's

1:33:34.699,1:33:37.400
like yeah I'm gonna make friendship

1:33:36.019,1:33:41.179
bracelets with you I'm like I don't

1:33:37.400,1:33:45.829
believe you I don't believe you I'm not

1:33:41.179,1:33:47.840
even going to bring my pillow right cuz

1:33:45.829,1:33:50.030
I mean it it's in your car and it gets

1:33:47.840,1:33:52.699
dirty you know you know as a kid I

1:33:50.030,1:33:54.440
didn't care but now it matters it does

1:33:52.699,1:33:56.749
that is I

1:33:54.440,1:34:02.630
that's when moving I always take the

1:33:56.749,1:34:04.639
pillow in other like in a bag yeah you

1:34:02.630,1:34:05.929
put it in a bag and I'm not showing up

1:34:04.639,1:34:07.909
to the White House with like a garbage

1:34:05.929,1:34:09.349
bag with my pillow in it cuz then it was

1:34:07.909,1:34:15.670
like why'd you bring a garbage bag and

1:34:09.349,1:34:17.900
like it's got my pillow in it loser so

1:34:15.670,1:34:19.190
hopefully soon you won't have to show up

1:34:17.900,1:34:21.499
with the pillow you'll just be able to

1:34:19.190,1:34:24.829
stay I'll just live there why I'll live

1:34:21.499,1:34:26.840
in the admiral's house which is it'll be

1:34:24.829,1:34:29.239
on the property it's the same property

1:34:26.840,1:34:30.730
oh so they could just walk over with my

1:34:29.239,1:34:33.230
pillow

1:34:30.730,1:34:38.090
cuz it's right there yeah it's right

1:34:33.230,1:34:42.999
there I mean now you really got a vote

1:34:38.090,1:34:46.159
for me so we're gonna close on a pretty

1:34:42.999,1:34:48.380
horrifying story and an infuriating

1:34:46.159,1:34:49.969
story that you have possibly heard

1:34:48.380,1:34:52.550
somewhat about but maybe not all the

1:34:49.969,1:34:54.199
details and there's no good segue which

1:34:52.550,1:34:57.289
is why I'm doing this instead because

1:34:54.199,1:35:01.719
there's no humorous segue or even witty

1:34:57.289,1:35:01.719
segue for this it is an absolute

1:35:02.750,1:35:08.090
it's just more of the same and we're out

1:35:05.960,1:35:09.290
here I shouldn't even say we're out here

1:35:08.090,1:35:11.360
because I've only gone to a couple

1:35:09.290,1:35:15.410
things there were people out there day

1:35:11.360,1:35:18.650
after day demanding an end to this and

1:35:15.410,1:35:22.730
we just see it happening over and over

1:35:18.650,1:35:27.350
again in Atlanta a man named Rashard

1:35:22.730,1:35:30.410
Brooks was killed by a police in a

1:35:27.350,1:35:33.320
Wendy's drive-through after in a scuffle

1:35:30.410,1:35:41.170
he took the cops taser he tried to tase

1:35:33.320,1:35:45.710
the cop and then he ran away now

1:35:41.170,1:35:47.540
Rashard Brooks even if we get into the

1:35:45.710,1:35:49.610
case that you know there probably was a

1:35:47.540,1:35:53.720
better way to deal with him fine

1:35:49.610,1:35:56.090
at that point he had resisted arrest and

1:35:53.720,1:36:01.930
tried to assault an officer with a less

1:35:56.090,1:36:01.930
than lethal weapon then he ran away

1:36:02.170,1:36:11.300
rendering him no longer a threat and if

1:36:07.670,1:36:13.550
any of us shot him shot someone running

1:36:11.300,1:36:16.840
away from us even after a scuffle or a

1:36:13.550,1:36:20.540
fight we'd be charged with homicide

1:36:16.840,1:36:22.850
because that's how it works you can only

1:36:20.540,1:36:25.220
use deadly force if you feel if you have

1:36:22.850,1:36:29.450
a reasonable reason to believe that your

1:36:25.220,1:36:32.540
life or bodily safety are in right or

1:36:29.450,1:36:33.350
are at risk someone running away is the

1:36:32.540,1:36:35.150
opposite of that

1:36:33.350,1:36:39.770
they're leaving they don't even want to

1:36:35.150,1:36:41.600
be near you and it took an impressive

1:36:39.770,1:36:42.050
period of time for this next thing to

1:36:41.600,1:36:47.690
happen

1:36:42.050,1:36:50.840
Matt Garrett Rolfe and Devon Bronson

1:36:47.690,1:36:53.720
were charged with felony murder for

1:36:50.840,1:37:01.370
their role in the killing of Rashard

1:36:53.720,1:37:04.850
Brooks now after Garrett Rolf was

1:37:01.370,1:37:08.650
charged a couple of days ago because

1:37:04.850,1:37:11.090
Devon Bronson took two days three days

1:37:08.650,1:37:16.270
yeah it was like three days later that

1:37:11.090,1:37:16.270
that happened I believe yesterday okay

1:37:16.280,1:37:20.510
many members of after Garrett Rolf was

1:37:19.159,1:37:23.809
charged many members of the Atlanta

1:37:20.510,1:37:26.449
police called out sick many people

1:37:23.809,1:37:31.520
started calling it the blue flu or a

1:37:26.449,1:37:35.239
sick out and according to the police

1:37:31.520,1:37:37.730
union spokesman Vince champion he says

1:37:35.239,1:37:40.340
this is not an organized thing it's not

1:37:37.730,1:37:42.050
a blue flu it's not a strike

1:37:40.340,1:37:44.840
funny because it sounds a lot like

1:37:42.050,1:37:45.289
sounds a lot like yeah it's nothing like

1:37:44.840,1:37:47.449
that

1:37:45.289,1:37:49.280
what it actually is is officers

1:37:47.449,1:37:50.329
protesting that they've had enough and

1:37:49.280,1:37:54.829
they don't want to deal with it any

1:37:50.329,1:37:57.940
longer here's why I have a theory as to

1:37:54.829,1:38:00.619
why he's saying it's not a strike

1:37:57.940,1:38:03.530
Georgia is a right-to-work state I have

1:38:00.619,1:38:05.329
a feeling that their particular and I

1:38:03.530,1:38:07.400
don't know this but just the way he's

1:38:05.329,1:38:09.559
being very defensive about what cops use

1:38:07.400,1:38:11.510
usually police unions are proud to talk

1:38:09.559,1:38:14.020
about I have a feeling that they don't

1:38:11.510,1:38:16.250
have strike they don't have the the

1:38:14.020,1:38:18.230
permission or authority to strike under

1:38:16.250,1:38:20.360
their collective bargaining agreement

1:38:18.230,1:38:23.030
with the Atlanta Police Department or

1:38:20.360,1:38:25.880
the I guide the city of Atlanta I have a

1:38:23.030,1:38:27.760
strong feeling the way that he tried to

1:38:25.880,1:38:31.340
shift it and go oh no this is just

1:38:27.760,1:38:33.559
spontaneous protesting they probably

1:38:31.340,1:38:35.510
aren't allowed to that makes sense

1:38:33.559,1:38:36.860
actually I did I was like man this

1:38:35.510,1:38:38.900
sounds exactly like a strike why

1:38:36.860,1:38:40.789
wouldn't it is a strike that's why I'm

1:38:38.900,1:38:42.829
saying when a bunch of people decide to

1:38:40.789,1:38:44.690
protest by not going to work

1:38:42.829,1:38:46.159
that's called a strike that's like the

1:38:44.690,1:38:49.039
definition I'm gonna look up the

1:38:46.159,1:38:50.139
definition of a strike in an interview

1:38:49.039,1:38:53.360
with the Atlanta journal-constitution

1:38:50.139,1:38:55.489
champion did add that there are officers

1:38:53.360,1:38:58.280
saying they are not going to leave the

1:38:55.489,1:39:00.199
precinct unless to help another officer

1:38:58.280,1:39:03.559
some are walking off and sitting in

1:39:00.199,1:39:05.599
their personal vehicles yeah this sounds

1:39:03.559,1:39:07.130
when we come out to protect our strike

1:39:05.599,1:39:09.079
sounds like a slowdown sounds like a

1:39:07.130,1:39:12.020
sick out whatever you want to call it

1:39:09.079,1:39:13.969
that's what that's what this sounds like

1:39:12.020,1:39:17.929
here's the definition of strike a

1:39:13.969,1:39:21.949
refusal to work organized by a body of

1:39:17.929,1:39:25.670
employees as a form of protest so far so

1:39:21.949,1:39:27.949
good on this being a strike typically in

1:39:25.670,1:39:30.050
an attempt to gain a concession or

1:39:27.949,1:39:32.329
concessions from their employer

1:39:30.050,1:39:35.480
I have to come to the conclusion after

1:39:32.329,1:39:38.239
reading that this is a strike this

1:39:35.480,1:39:42.520
qualifies as a strike this is literally

1:39:38.239,1:39:44.770
a strike now Atlanta PD

1:39:42.520,1:39:47.050
also an agreement this isn't a strike

1:39:44.770,1:39:53.619
they released a statement after

1:39:47.050,1:39:56.449
champions comments and they said that

1:39:53.619,1:39:59.480
claims the officers walking off the job

1:39:56.449,1:40:07.119
were inaccurate they said that this was

1:39:59.480,1:40:09.559
not happening laughter the the police

1:40:07.119,1:40:10.969
spokesman says this is not an organized

1:40:09.559,1:40:15.530
thing it's not a strike it's nothing

1:40:10.969,1:40:17.389
like that it's officers protesting he

1:40:15.530,1:40:19.190
basically said this is happening but

1:40:17.389,1:40:22.280
we're not calling it a strike right and

1:40:19.190,1:40:26.750
then ap APD was like no that's not not

1:40:22.280,1:40:28.400
even happening I'm real no real they

1:40:26.750,1:40:30.500
didn't say that the department is

1:40:28.400,1:40:34.780
experiencing a higher than usual number

1:40:30.500,1:40:37.369
of call outs with the incoming shift and

1:40:34.780,1:40:39.469
they have enough resources to maintain

1:40:37.369,1:40:41.750
operations and remain able to respond to

1:40:39.469,1:40:45.199
incidents so they have enough people

1:40:41.750,1:40:48.320
there so here's a question that's not

1:40:45.199,1:40:49.639
minute if they have enough people to

1:40:48.320,1:40:51.079
respond to incidents but they have a

1:40:49.639,1:40:55.340
higher number of call outs couldn't they

1:40:51.079,1:40:56.630
just get rid of that many people who

1:40:55.340,1:40:59.540
they told on themselves

1:40:56.630,1:41:03.440
yes they did that just hit me like right

1:40:59.540,1:41:05.900
now they have enough resources to

1:41:03.440,1:41:07.429
maintain operations and remain able to

1:41:05.900,1:41:09.320
respond to incidents even though a

1:41:07.429,1:41:12.320
higher than usual number of call outs

1:41:09.320,1:41:13.849
are happening so in their total blatant

1:41:12.320,1:41:16.579
lie so here's the breakdown

1:41:13.849,1:41:19.280
- cops murder a guy they get arrested

1:41:16.579,1:41:20.480
for it the police are not really used to

1:41:19.280,1:41:22.520
this new thing where they can get

1:41:20.480,1:41:25.699
arrested for murder and so some of them

1:41:22.520,1:41:26.900
so they strike the police union because

1:41:25.699,1:41:29.239
they probably don't have the authority

1:41:26.900,1:41:33.349
to strike said whoa whoa this isn't a

1:41:29.239,1:41:35.480
strike it's just a refusal to work

1:41:33.349,1:41:37.369
organized by a body of employees as a

1:41:35.480,1:41:39.230
form of protest typically in an attempt

1:41:37.369,1:41:41.690
to gain a concession or concessions from

1:41:39.230,1:41:43.830
their employer but it's not a strike per

1:41:41.690,1:41:48.470
se

1:41:43.830,1:41:51.510
and then in in doing their Orwellian

1:41:48.470,1:41:54.800
response the Atlanta Police Department

1:41:51.510,1:41:57.030
claiming that's not even happening

1:41:54.800,1:41:58.500
they're not even not even

1:41:57.030,1:42:02.700
they're not even refusing to work

1:41:58.500,1:42:04.530
they're totally working in doing so they

1:42:02.700,1:42:07.260
said that there's way more stuff

1:42:04.530,1:42:09.210
happening right now but then they also

1:42:07.260,1:42:12.240
said because they can't admit that

1:42:09.210,1:42:14.370
they're not sufficient or that you know

1:42:12.240,1:42:15.450
they aren't competent then they said we

1:42:14.370,1:42:18.240
have enough resources to maintain

1:42:15.450,1:42:20.450
operations and remain able to respond to

1:42:18.240,1:42:22.470
incidents well then it sounds to me like

1:42:20.450,1:42:27.000
you have too many people and I think you

1:42:22.470,1:42:28.740
have too many cops yeah or maybe you

1:42:27.000,1:42:32.630
should only have some just this you know

1:42:28.740,1:42:34.740
part time surge police or something I

1:42:32.630,1:42:38.510
wonder what that might end up happening

1:42:34.740,1:42:41.790
how that admission could could be

1:42:38.510,1:42:45.030
received in the police union that isn't

1:42:41.790,1:42:48.120
striking isn't the one that is not

1:42:45.030,1:42:52.170
striking right now that also could be a

1:42:48.120,1:42:54.090
threat to the Union yeah ooh that could

1:42:52.170,1:42:56.400
be a threat to the Union and having them

1:42:54.090,1:43:01.250
say yeah we have enough to do it right

1:42:56.400,1:43:01.250
now show up or you don't have to anymore

1:43:03.350,1:43:10.530
they're saying this isn't a strike those

1:43:06.270,1:43:12.440
people don't work here any this isn't a

1:43:10.530,1:43:17.070
strike because anyone who's striking

1:43:12.440,1:43:19.050
doesn't work here anymore so what we

1:43:17.070,1:43:22.440
actually cuz this originally this story

1:43:19.050,1:43:25.080
was like much more outrageous in another

1:43:22.440,1:43:28.890
way but we might actually be seeing a

1:43:25.080,1:43:30.990
sort of subtle PR war happening between

1:43:28.890,1:43:34.110
the Atlanta Police Department and the

1:43:30.990,1:43:35.490
police union or we're just overthinking

1:43:34.110,1:43:38.400
this and these are a bunch of morons

1:43:35.490,1:43:42.090
which is equally possible they're

1:43:38.400,1:43:44.220
actually probable probably 65 35 that

1:43:42.090,1:43:47.550
it's two groups of morons who don't

1:43:44.220,1:43:51.440
realize what they're saying but there's

1:43:47.550,1:43:54.030
a good solid 35 percent chance that some

1:43:51.440,1:43:56.760
cloak-and-dagger stuff's happen in the

1:43:54.030,1:43:58.560
comment section here

1:43:56.760,1:44:00.780
yeah cuz we're I look at it the more I

1:43:58.560,1:44:02.520
think now they're just morons right I

1:44:00.780,1:44:05.250
was gonna say there's multiple like

1:44:02.520,1:44:06.750
levels to this and I'm like did they

1:44:05.250,1:44:10.140
realize they were doing that when they

1:44:06.750,1:44:11.310
wrote this or did they just write

1:44:10.140,1:44:13.440
something and put it out

1:44:11.310,1:44:15.930
right the thing everything's fine also

1:44:13.440,1:44:18.420
there's more stuff happening but also we

1:44:15.930,1:44:20.489
have we're fine and there's no strike

1:44:18.420,1:44:22.050
and everything's fine and then the

1:44:20.489,1:44:24.270
union's like this isn't a strike we're

1:44:22.050,1:44:26.040
just doing the Webster's dictionary

1:44:24.270,1:44:28.260
definition of striking but totally not a

1:44:26.040,1:44:30.620
strike and it's not the blue flu we're

1:44:28.260,1:44:34.110
all just calling out sick and we're cops

1:44:30.620,1:44:36.480
now real quick anybody who hasn't seen

1:44:34.110,1:44:41.760
this video I watched it did you watch it

1:44:36.480,1:44:44.370
I did watch it yeah a lot of people have

1:44:41.760,1:44:47.400
different opinions on yeah yeah what

1:44:44.370,1:44:49.200
happened like you know there's a scuffle

1:44:47.400,1:44:50.250
you know he takes the Taser you know he

1:44:49.200,1:44:51.780
fires the Taser

1:44:50.250,1:44:54.210
I thought he actually got one of them

1:44:51.780,1:44:57.000
I'm not 100% sure on that but I thought

1:44:54.210,1:44:59.820
he did I so I believe that it touched

1:44:57.000,1:45:01.500
him but it didn't actually shot him like

1:44:59.820,1:45:03.750
it yeah it didn't actually do whatever

1:45:01.500,1:45:07.680
it's called where where where there's an

1:45:03.750,1:45:09.480
actual conduction of electricity to the

1:45:07.680,1:45:11.190
person so I think it actually like hit

1:45:09.480,1:45:12.960
them but not in a way like it you know

1:45:11.190,1:45:14.790
it hit like if it hit my collar or

1:45:12.960,1:45:16.800
something and then he did it it wouldn't

1:45:14.790,1:45:18.510
actually conduct because it's not

1:45:16.800,1:45:19.860
touching me or something oh god now

1:45:18.510,1:45:22.590
we're gonna get those shooters clova

1:45:19.860,1:45:26.190
cool anyway uh you know something like

1:45:22.590,1:45:30.780
that like right okay so that makes sense

1:45:26.190,1:45:33.030
um and people you know people on the

1:45:30.780,1:45:34.350
Republican side or the Procop side I

1:45:33.030,1:45:36.989
guess would be the better way to put

1:45:34.350,1:45:40.500
that you know they were saying you know

1:45:36.989,1:45:43.380
he resisted arrest he he resisted arrest

1:45:40.500,1:45:46.790
he stole the Taser he attacked them and

1:45:43.380,1:45:50.640
then he tried to run so it's justifiable

1:45:46.790,1:45:52.710
and maybe not justifiable but at least a

1:45:50.640,1:45:55.860
lot more understanding than any of the

1:45:52.710,1:45:58.320
other cases that you've seen there is

1:45:55.860,1:46:00.239
not yet this is not the same so Lake

1:45:58.320,1:46:02.940
George Floyd the guy just literally

1:46:00.239,1:46:05.190
leaned on him and let him die like

1:46:02.940,1:46:06.960
casually murdered him slowly while his

1:46:05.190,1:46:08.910
hands were behind his back and it turns

1:46:06.960,1:46:10.050
out they might possibly known each other

1:46:08.910,1:46:13.409
and this may have been a grudge

1:46:10.050,1:46:16.889
like that's that's a totally different

1:46:13.409,1:46:18.449
thing Eric Garner's killing where he's

1:46:16.889,1:46:21.480
literally just saying this has to end

1:46:18.449,1:46:23.040
and they choke him out six of them Tamir

1:46:21.480,1:46:25.170
rice where they just roll up on a kid

1:46:23.040,1:46:28.050
with an obvious BB gun and and gunned

1:46:25.170,1:46:30.150
him down like John Crawford where a guy

1:46:28.050,1:46:33.290
with a frickin like obvious toy gun

1:46:30.150,1:46:35.790
walking through Walmart gets blasted by

1:46:33.290,1:46:39.809
officers with with you know with the

1:46:35.790,1:46:41.130
brothels this is his name he was

1:46:39.809,1:46:43.820
standing in his house and had a

1:46:41.130,1:46:48.570
screwdriver and he was like mentally

1:46:43.820,1:46:50.579
disabled Oh his name but they said put

1:46:48.570,1:46:52.199
down the screwdriver and he like wasn't

1:46:50.579,1:46:54.389
grasping what they were saying and they

1:46:52.199,1:46:56.579
shot him and they shot him Brianna

1:46:54.389,1:46:58.380
Taylor who was literally asleep in her

1:46:56.579,1:47:00.659
in her house

1:46:58.380,1:47:02.760
Duncan limp who was asleep in his house

1:47:00.659,1:47:04.079
I mean these are examples of the police

1:47:02.760,1:47:05.670
just feeling like screw it I'd rather

1:47:04.079,1:47:08.550
kill him they'd have to deal with them

1:47:05.670,1:47:09.960
this was a case where and we could get

1:47:08.550,1:47:11.429
into a whole discussion about if there

1:47:09.960,1:47:12.929
are better ways to deal with potential

1:47:11.429,1:47:15.059
duis especially when they're not

1:47:12.929,1:47:18.920
actually on the road but the bottom line

1:47:15.059,1:47:22.829
was it's still different in that they

1:47:18.920,1:47:24.300
had him pull over to the side they and I

1:47:22.829,1:47:27.389
will say this from the body cam footage

1:47:24.300,1:47:30.570
they were polite to him they said hey

1:47:27.389,1:47:33.090
please pull over please pull over and

1:47:30.570,1:47:34.260
then there was some conversation and

1:47:33.090,1:47:36.270
they said hey how about you get out of

1:47:34.260,1:47:38.610
the car for us because you're obviously

1:47:36.270,1:47:40.020
driving and granted they could've just

1:47:38.610,1:47:42.119
given him a ride home let him walk home

1:47:40.020,1:47:45.659
whatever we like that's whole other

1:47:42.119,1:47:48.540
levels but they were at least polite to

1:47:45.659,1:47:54.800
him throughout the process and having

1:47:48.540,1:47:54.800
gone through a number of DUI checks

1:47:57.110,1:48:03.599
should have failed all of them but

1:47:59.719,1:48:06.360
having only like they were nicer to him

1:48:03.599,1:48:11.040
and I've ever been treated during those

1:48:06.360,1:48:12.270
checkpoints okay uh so I was I was

1:48:11.040,1:48:13.139
watching going okay this they're

1:48:12.270,1:48:14.460
actually treating him pretty well

1:48:13.139,1:48:18.630
they're treating they're they're doing

1:48:14.460,1:48:20.489
what they should hear and then when they

1:48:18.630,1:48:22.500
went to arrest on which I thought okay

1:48:20.489,1:48:24.690
do you really need to do that he was in

1:48:22.500,1:48:26.460
right on like and he was in his car in a

1:48:24.690,1:48:29.180
car was running and it was in the

1:48:26.460,1:48:31.800
drive-thru line and he was asleep but

1:48:29.180,1:48:33.810
told him pullover side road you could

1:48:31.800,1:48:35.580
sleep you could sleep it off here and

1:48:33.810,1:48:38.730
then he started talking which just

1:48:35.580,1:48:43.290
teaches you should and there's a lesson

1:48:38.730,1:48:45.180
behind that but what keep going and then

1:48:43.290,1:48:47.550
that was when he started resisting and

1:48:45.180,1:48:48.780
then everything accelerated from there

1:48:47.550,1:48:52.110
now

1:48:48.780,1:48:53.640
a lot of people on the Prokop side I

1:48:52.110,1:48:56.010
don't want to say the right because it's

1:48:53.640,1:48:57.690
different now yeah yeah everything's

1:48:56.010,1:48:59.640
different now but yeah the Prokop side

1:48:57.690,1:49:02.370
you know cop side they're saying you

1:48:59.640,1:49:04.920
know this is not the same thing these

1:49:02.370,1:49:05.460
people shouldn't be charged maybe maybe

1:49:04.920,1:49:07.290
not

1:49:05.460,1:49:10.980
but do I think that a jury should make

1:49:07.290,1:49:12.540
this decision yes that's fair yeah I

1:49:10.980,1:49:14.460
think a jury should make this decision

1:49:12.540,1:49:17.550
and it shouldn't just be left up to the

1:49:14.460,1:49:21.740
DA but what a lot of them are saying is

1:49:17.550,1:49:23.700
that Paul Howard the DA from Atlanta is

1:49:21.740,1:49:26.340
having his accounting on the shooting

1:49:23.700,1:49:27.450
brought into question and many are

1:49:26.340,1:49:30.630
saying that since he is up for

1:49:27.450,1:49:34.020
re-election this year he is looking to

1:49:30.630,1:49:36.060
ensure his victory in Atlanta by

1:49:34.020,1:49:38.040
throwing a cop under the bus even if

1:49:36.060,1:49:40.950
that is a consideration of political

1:49:38.040,1:49:43.440
consideration which by the way that's

1:49:40.950,1:49:45.810
how politics is supposed to work that's

1:49:43.440,1:49:49.500
how the democratic system in theory is

1:49:45.810,1:49:50.550
supposed to work if the people if you

1:49:49.500,1:49:53.070
know the people are gonna want an

1:49:50.550,1:49:56.820
outcome you give them the outcome now

1:49:53.070,1:49:58.230
throw cops under the bus they still

1:49:56.820,1:50:01.200
killed someone who was running away and

1:49:58.230,1:50:03.390
they are trained where you're told we

1:50:01.200,1:50:05.360
are trained to deal with these types of

1:50:03.390,1:50:09.480
situations although in my last episode

1:50:05.360,1:50:11.460
with Antonio Okafor Kover and TIG Davis

1:50:09.480,1:50:13.140
talking about self-protection and the

1:50:11.460,1:50:15.450
police and the Second Amendment

1:50:13.140,1:50:17.970
tig explained to me that most police

1:50:15.450,1:50:22.980
departments don't give ongoing training

1:50:17.970,1:50:25.740
for free and it's not mandatory they can

1:50:22.980,1:50:29.780
get it but it's not mandatory and if

1:50:25.740,1:50:33.810
they want it they have to pay for it

1:50:29.780,1:50:35.880
you scared yet there was something like

1:50:33.810,1:50:36.389
2 million police officers roam in the

1:50:35.880,1:50:38.369
country

1:50:36.389,1:50:39.689
most of whom are not getting ongoing

1:50:38.369,1:50:40.889
training and if they do want it they

1:50:39.689,1:50:44.189
have to pay for it out of their own

1:50:40.889,1:50:47.219
pockets they have guns and they have

1:50:44.189,1:50:49.110
presumed authority to use them you can't

1:50:47.219,1:50:51.599
sue them if they think what they did was

1:50:49.110,1:50:54.749
reasonable they're not getting any

1:50:51.599,1:50:58.619
training though they are getting lots of

1:50:54.749,1:51:01.139
military equipment so hopefully that

1:50:58.619,1:51:04.829
makes you feel better right they are

1:51:01.139,1:51:06.840
getting tanks training it stretched the

1:51:04.829,1:51:09.059
budget tanks yes they are getting tanks

1:51:06.840,1:51:11.999
they are getting things there was

1:51:09.059,1:51:13.260
something on I thought on Twitter I was

1:51:11.999,1:51:15.209
gonna include it but I knew it was gonna

1:51:13.260,1:51:17.219
be some small town just got this

1:51:15.209,1:51:19.199
freaking like Mine Resistant vehicle and

1:51:17.219,1:51:22.019
and it's like just like a town

1:51:19.199,1:51:23.729
population of 6,000 or some three they

1:51:22.019,1:51:25.260
got it for free and they were you know

1:51:23.729,1:51:26.399
why did we get it because someone else

1:51:25.260,1:51:28.050
would have gotten it what the hell are

1:51:26.399,1:51:31.260
you going to do with this thing other

1:51:28.050,1:51:33.329
than put it on parades hopefully that's

1:51:31.260,1:51:38.820
all they do is roll it down on parades

1:51:33.329,1:51:40.679
and scare everyone now two things one

1:51:38.820,1:51:42.360
Kelly K and the comment said did you

1:51:40.679,1:51:43.829
guys know he shot three times in the

1:51:42.360,1:51:46.169
third bullet hit a vehicle in the

1:51:43.829,1:51:48.510
drive-thru yes I honestly thought I put

1:51:46.169,1:51:52.229
that in here is that the officer that

1:51:48.510,1:51:53.789
that shot at him yeah yeah yeah he shot

1:51:52.229,1:51:55.530
three times like I really thought that I

1:51:53.789,1:51:58.919
put that in here but apparently I

1:51:55.530,1:52:00.360
skipped it or I put it in when I had it

1:51:58.919,1:52:05.039
in the original section and it didn't

1:52:00.360,1:52:07.260
copy and paste over so I was just so ho

1:52:05.039,1:52:08.699
uh Monica Holcomb says there should be a

1:52:07.260,1:52:10.530
different way to deal with a drunk his

1:52:08.699,1:52:13.019
family said he asked to walk over to his

1:52:10.530,1:52:15.119
sister's house who lived nearby so this

1:52:13.019,1:52:17.219
is a perfect example in a more

1:52:15.119,1:52:19.769
restorative justice type of situation

1:52:17.219,1:52:21.570
the way you would deal with that is you

1:52:19.769,1:52:23.820
would say hey it looks like you

1:52:21.570,1:52:28.619
shouldn't be driving why don't you pull

1:52:23.820,1:52:31.169
over there and either and and this might

1:52:28.619,1:52:33.689
be the punishment will tow your car and

1:52:31.169,1:52:35.280
you have to pay for that or if the owner

1:52:33.689,1:52:37.110
of this property is okay with you

1:52:35.280,1:52:38.999
leaving your car there then you can

1:52:37.110,1:52:40.649
leave your car there and we'll take you

1:52:38.999,1:52:42.419
somewhere or if it's right up the road

1:52:40.649,1:52:44.070
you can just go there and then come back

1:52:42.419,1:52:45.689
and retrieve your car and that way

1:52:44.070,1:52:48.749
you're not on the road and now this

1:52:45.689,1:52:49.949
person doesn't have a record of a char

1:52:48.749,1:52:51.389
John their record

1:52:49.949,1:52:53.010
they have been stopped from driving

1:52:51.389,1:52:53.820
drunk which is necessary

1:52:53.010,1:52:55.199
they've been stopped from driving

1:52:53.820,1:52:57.030
impaired but they don't have something

1:52:55.199,1:52:59.340
on the record that's going to put a

1:52:57.030,1:53:00.929
financial burden on their life and now

1:52:59.340,1:53:03.480
make it so that it's harder for them to

1:53:00.929,1:53:05.610
get ahead and they might you know and

1:53:03.480,1:53:07.110
now if now their insurance cost too much

1:53:05.610,1:53:10.760
because of they have to get the SPECIAL

1:53:07.110,1:53:15.330
DUI insurance I forget what it's called

1:53:10.760,1:53:17.730
there's like a work what's that sr22

1:53:15.330,1:53:19.020
insurance and that you you know and you

1:53:17.730,1:53:20.969
can't afford it so now you can't drive

1:53:19.020,1:53:22.650
and you might lose your job as a result

1:53:20.969,1:53:24.119
of it or if you have a job or if you

1:53:22.650,1:53:25.500
have a charge like that on your record

1:53:24.119,1:53:27.570
you lose your job what you're gonna

1:53:25.500,1:53:29.219
drive you to drink more instead of doing

1:53:27.570,1:53:31.380
this like punish people just for the

1:53:29.219,1:53:34.679
sake of it way of looking at things

1:53:31.380,1:53:36.570
instead be more restorative about it hey

1:53:34.679,1:53:38.190
you shouldn't be driving why don't you

1:53:36.570,1:53:40.710
put your car over there and then you can

1:53:38.190,1:53:41.940
go home or hey you know what we're gonna

1:53:40.710,1:53:42.989
have to make you pay for your car to be

1:53:41.940,1:53:44.820
towed because you shouldn't be driving

1:53:42.989,1:53:46.139
right now and the property owner doesn't

1:53:44.820,1:53:47.610
want your car here so it's gonna cost

1:53:46.139,1:53:50.010
you a couple hundred bucks but we're not

1:53:47.610,1:53:51.780
gonna ruin your life but maybe you

1:53:50.010,1:53:53.429
shouldn't drive drunk anymore because

1:53:51.780,1:53:54.810
you know it's just cost you a couple

1:53:53.429,1:53:56.699
hundred bucks or three hundred bucks or

1:53:54.810,1:53:58.440
whatever that would be an example of

1:53:56.699,1:54:00.420
where someone is still in some way

1:53:58.440,1:54:02.550
getting punished or not being allowed to

1:54:00.420,1:54:04.349
drive drunk at the very least but their

1:54:02.550,1:54:07.679
life's not being ruined and they're not

1:54:04.349,1:54:11.429
now fearing going to jail and making

1:54:07.679,1:54:14.159
panic decisions while drunk which result

1:54:11.429,1:54:15.690
in them being in this case killed or if

1:54:14.159,1:54:17.070
they hadn't killed him being charged

1:54:15.690,1:54:19.860
with a whole slew of other things and

1:54:17.070,1:54:22.560
ending up in jail for years right which

1:54:19.860,1:54:23.909
John Hurt Lee says earlier the

1:54:22.560,1:54:25.349
breathalyzer question should not be

1:54:23.909,1:54:26.760
asked and for anybody who doesn't know

1:54:25.349,1:54:28.889
the question is do you consent to a

1:54:26.760,1:54:31.980
breathalyzer you can say yes you can say

1:54:28.889,1:54:34.020
no now he follows it up with if you're

1:54:31.980,1:54:36.449
drunk your judgment is impaired so

1:54:34.020,1:54:39.030
there's really no consent because I'm

1:54:36.449,1:54:43.020
not sure about every state but I know in

1:54:39.030,1:54:46.260
all of them ah I have been if you're a

1:54:43.020,1:54:49.760
drunk you cannot cannot sign a contract

1:54:46.260,1:54:52.590
you can't correct you you can't consent

1:54:49.760,1:54:57.360
so you cannot consent to a breathalyzer

1:54:52.590,1:54:58.980
when drunk yeah you can but Chris

1:54:57.360,1:55:00.780
Reynolds is right in the comments where

1:54:58.980,1:55:03.240
he says but the state needs that DUI

1:55:00.780,1:55:05.100
money because on average

1:55:03.240,1:55:07.230
and this could be different from the

1:55:05.100,1:55:09.450
last time that I looked into it because

1:55:07.230,1:55:18.060
I had been sober now for almost six

1:55:09.450,1:55:24.180
years it costs roughly ten grand anytime

1:55:18.060,1:55:30.210
you get a DUI which is absurd that's the

1:55:24.180,1:55:33.150
average I mean it's it's and it's more

1:55:30.210,1:55:35.700
likely to affect those who can't afford

1:55:33.150,1:55:37.140
that so if you're super wealthy you're

1:55:35.700,1:55:38.370
driving in your Ferrari and you get

1:55:37.140,1:55:40.140
pulled over and it cost you all this

1:55:38.370,1:55:42.090
money it's an inconvenience and you're

1:55:40.140,1:55:43.230
pissed off but you'll be fine and you're

1:55:42.090,1:55:44.970
also more likely to be able to have

1:55:43.230,1:55:47.040
someone like hire someone to drive you

1:55:44.970,1:55:48.210
or drive your car you have a chauffeur

1:55:47.040,1:55:50.520
or whatever so you can get drunk and

1:55:48.210,1:55:52.770
party like a rock star all weekend long

1:55:50.520,1:55:55.020
or whatever this is affecting people who

1:55:52.770,1:55:59.220
can't afford it and it's ruining their

1:55:55.020,1:56:01.260
lives for no good reason and I used to

1:55:59.220,1:56:03.030
be a law-and-order person and I hear the

1:56:01.260,1:56:04.800
law-and-order person inside of me going

1:56:03.030,1:56:07.590
yeah but the whole point of that is to

1:56:04.800,1:56:12.950
deter them from doing it when your life

1:56:07.590,1:56:18.360
is so on the precipice of being ruined

1:56:12.950,1:56:20.400
you become hopeless you end up in bad

1:56:18.360,1:56:23.040
situations because you're not thinking

1:56:20.400,1:56:24.360
in it in this well I have to do this or

1:56:23.040,1:56:26.550
it's going to prevent that your one

1:56:24.360,1:56:29.430
paycheck away from losing everything

1:56:26.550,1:56:31.920
so you just not necessarily make the

1:56:29.430,1:56:34.290
best choices and how amazing would it be

1:56:31.920,1:56:36.210
if we had a system of justice that

1:56:34.290,1:56:41.550
instead of pounding you while you're

1:56:36.210,1:56:43.740
down says hey listen you're drunk you

1:56:41.550,1:56:45.870
shouldn't be driving let's see if you

1:56:43.740,1:56:46.770
can leave your car here and if you can't

1:56:45.870,1:56:48.450
you're gonna have to pay to have your

1:56:46.770,1:56:53.220
car towed because you can't leave it

1:56:48.450,1:56:56.340
here that's trespassing but you get to

1:56:53.220,1:56:58.320
go home and you sober up and you don't

1:56:56.340,1:57:00.060
have a record and you don't have to pay

1:56:58.320,1:57:03.150
to get bailed out and we're not gonna

1:57:00.060,1:57:04.740
give you a hard time and you know if

1:57:03.150,1:57:06.510
this keeps happening there's gonna be a

1:57:04.740,1:57:08.910
problem and and you know we may have to

1:57:06.510,1:57:11.820
look at your license but you know right

1:57:08.910,1:57:13.560
now we're gonna just get you home and

1:57:11.820,1:57:14.850
get you off the streets especially in

1:57:13.560,1:57:16.530
this situation where he wasn't even on

1:57:14.850,1:57:17.570
the street in the first place he was

1:57:16.530,1:57:19.700
asleep

1:57:17.570,1:57:21.170
let him get out of his car and go home

1:57:19.700,1:57:23.700
yeah

1:57:21.170,1:57:26.370
restorative justice is the idea that if

1:57:23.700,1:57:28.860
you if here's another example petty

1:57:26.370,1:57:30.150
theft instead of throwing a poor person

1:57:28.860,1:57:33.030
in jail because they can't afford the

1:57:30.150,1:57:34.170
fines which then are still there and

1:57:33.030,1:57:37.260
when they get out of jail they now have

1:57:34.170,1:57:38.790
interest find out a payment plan so that

1:57:37.260,1:57:40.260
they can pay back for the theft or just

1:57:38.790,1:57:42.210
tell them to give it back and pay some

1:57:40.260,1:57:43.950
kind of fine and give them time to pay

1:57:42.210,1:57:45.030
it and then don't have something on

1:57:43.950,1:57:47.280
their record that makes it impossible

1:57:45.030,1:57:49.620
for them to find a job so that they now

1:57:47.280,1:57:51.420
don't have to keep robbing people to

1:57:49.620,1:57:53.790
make a living don't take away their

1:57:51.420,1:57:57.000
ability to thrive let them learn from

1:57:53.790,1:57:59.070
the mistake restore from it restore any

1:57:57.000,1:58:01.020
harm or damage that was done or theft

1:57:59.070,1:58:02.850
that was done to the victim so that

1:58:01.020,1:58:05.400
their whole and now allow the the

1:58:02.850,1:58:08.310
perpetrator to learn from it because

1:58:05.400,1:58:10.200
they're a human too and they can now go

1:58:08.310,1:58:12.090
and thrive instead of having their life

1:58:10.200,1:58:14.850
ruined which if you're a fiscal

1:58:12.090,1:58:16.820
conservative costs way more than just

1:58:14.850,1:58:20.550
helping them in that immediate situation

1:58:16.820,1:58:22.140
right now according to legal consultant

1:58:20.550,1:58:24.420
Chris Reynolds personal injury attorney

1:58:22.140,1:58:25.590
Christmas we added that now not only is

1:58:24.420,1:58:27.240
he personal injury attorney Chris

1:58:25.590,1:58:29.040
Reynolds attorney at law he is legal

1:58:27.240,1:58:32.280
consultant personal injury attorney

1:58:29.040,1:58:33.900
Chris Reynolds attorney now it was kind

1:58:32.280,1:58:37.890
of something that was mentioned like in

1:58:33.900,1:58:40.700
passing that I agreed but he said that

1:58:37.890,1:58:44.790
he would be happy to join the show yes

1:58:40.700,1:58:48.600
discuss legal issues that you and I not

1:58:44.790,1:58:50.190
being trained would have he would have a

1:58:48.600,1:58:53.640
much better viewpoint than you and I

1:58:50.190,1:58:58.140
ever would on it but he's yes next

1:58:53.640,1:59:00.000
episode 100% yeah totally down yeah he

1:58:58.140,1:59:01.980
said that you are more likely to get put

1:59:00.000,1:59:04.320
in jail for driving without a license

1:59:01.980,1:59:07.620
and subsequently you eyes and it's hard

1:59:04.320,1:59:12.810
to get out of the cycle and yes yes it

1:59:07.620,1:59:16.050
is cuz I know when did I lose my license

1:59:12.810,1:59:18.330
I lost my license a couple of times and

1:59:16.050,1:59:20.370
I know that I continue driving because I

1:59:18.330,1:59:23.300
had to get to work I had bills to pay

1:59:20.370,1:59:28.640
luckily I did not get pulled over

1:59:23.300,1:59:30.540
anytime that I didn't have my license

1:59:28.640,1:59:32.490
but

1:59:30.540,1:59:34.260
I know tons of people who do and they

1:59:32.490,1:59:36.720
end up going to jail and then they have

1:59:34.260,1:59:38.790
to pay those fees they're losing their

1:59:36.720,1:59:40.500
jobs because they're not going to work

1:59:38.790,1:59:41.850
because they're in jail or they can't

1:59:40.500,1:59:43.620
make it there because they don't have

1:59:41.850,1:59:46.230
licenses after that and there's no way

1:59:43.620,1:59:47.940
they're gonna be driving and they end up

1:59:46.230,1:59:50.580
just falling deeper and deeper into that

1:59:47.940,1:59:52.830
hole which causes people oddly enough to

1:59:50.580,1:59:55.290
drink more to make more bad decisions

1:59:52.830,1:59:57.660
cuz their life's ruined exactly right

1:59:55.290,1:59:59.160
and we're even in MIT because people go

1:59:57.660,2:00:00.990
well they shouldn't have done the first

1:59:59.160,2:00:02.310
thing the bad thing first you're

2:00:00.990,2:00:04.560
absolutely right they shouldn't have

2:00:02.310,2:00:08.490
done what humans do all the time bad

2:00:04.560,2:00:11.130
choices right I am grateful that I

2:00:08.490,2:00:13.320
didn't get pulled over many times that's

2:00:11.130,2:00:15.930
all I have to say about that but what I

2:00:13.320,2:00:20.010
will say is this we all make mistakes

2:00:15.930,2:00:23.070
and some of us are more likely to get

2:00:20.010,2:00:25.230
are statistically more likely to get

2:00:23.070,2:00:27.180
held up for those mistakes than others

2:00:25.230,2:00:29.670
but even if we all were the same

2:00:27.180,2:00:31.290
likelihood regardless of our income

2:00:29.670,2:00:32.850
regardless of our race regardless of

2:00:31.290,2:00:35.430
what neighborhood we live in regardless

2:00:32.850,2:00:37.920
of our ethnicity or sexual identity or

2:00:35.430,2:00:39.540
gender identity or whatever even if we

2:00:37.920,2:00:41.130
were all in an even playing field I

2:00:39.540,2:00:42.480
would still prefer a system that tells

2:00:41.130,2:00:46.470
people when they make mistakes

2:00:42.480,2:00:48.420
hey let's rectify this you robbed this

2:00:46.470,2:00:50.190
person okay do you still have it give it

2:00:48.420,2:00:52.590
back to them and you're also gonna have

2:00:50.190,2:00:55.680
to pay something for the fact not to us

2:00:52.590,2:00:57.180
but to them for the fact that you

2:00:55.680,2:00:58.530
deprived them of that thing that you

2:00:57.180,2:01:01.560
took from them for whatever period of

2:00:58.530,2:01:05.040
time you had it not to us but to them

2:01:01.560,2:01:06.510
the actual victim and you know what we

2:01:05.040,2:01:08.130
actually have a training thing that

2:01:06.510,2:01:11.130
costs way less than putting you in jail

2:01:08.130,2:01:13.590
for ten years or five years and it's a

2:01:11.130,2:01:16.920
training that you know we'll talk to you

2:01:13.590,2:01:18.870
about why you shouldn't steal and maybe

2:01:16.920,2:01:21.150
there's some resources to help you which

2:01:18.870,2:01:22.860
again because I hear the people going

2:01:21.150,2:01:26.090
but there's no jobs program cost way

2:01:22.860,2:01:28.770
less than putting someone in jail and

2:01:26.090,2:01:30.630
doesn't result in someone having their

2:01:28.770,2:01:32.790
life ruined and almost assuredly

2:01:30.630,2:01:35.070
becoming a ward of the state as a result

2:01:32.790,2:01:37.710
of it instead they can go and learn from

2:01:35.070,2:01:43.080
it as a kid and thrive like wealthy

2:01:37.710,2:01:44.400
people do when they make mistakes let

2:01:43.080,2:01:47.670
people learn from their mistake

2:01:44.400,2:01:50.370
and move ahead in this situation we

2:01:47.670,2:01:53.610
don't want a very drunk person or very

2:01:50.370,2:01:57.000
high person on the streets so get them

2:01:53.610,2:02:00.450
off the streets if it becomes a routine

2:01:57.000,2:02:03.030
thing where it keeps happening well this

2:02:00.450,2:02:06.180
sounds like a mental health issue or an

2:02:03.030,2:02:08.250
addiction issue or a trauma issue let's

2:02:06.180,2:02:10.980
deal with that because there aren't a

2:02:08.250,2:02:12.570
lot of people who go hey I'm such a jerk

2:02:10.980,2:02:14.220
that I want to go make the roads

2:02:12.570,2:02:17.880
dangerous for myself and everyone around

2:02:14.220,2:02:20.340
me that is a manifestation of something

2:02:17.880,2:02:22.140
bad and you can do one of two things you

2:02:20.340,2:02:25.200
can ruin their life as a result of it

2:02:22.140,2:02:27.090
and ensure that they will now be a ward

2:02:25.200,2:02:28.740
of the state for the rest of their life

2:02:27.090,2:02:30.810
and not able to really contribute

2:02:28.740,2:02:33.060
anything which costs way more and helps

2:02:30.810,2:02:35.730
no one or you can deal with whatever

2:02:33.060,2:02:37.440
that thing is so that they can move

2:02:35.730,2:02:39.120
forward in life and of course in a

2:02:37.440,2:02:40.800
voluntary Society we'd be much more

2:02:39.120,2:02:42.420
likely to do this because we'd be doing

2:02:40.800,2:02:44.310
it voluntarily instead of having taxes

2:02:42.420,2:02:46.260
taken from us to pay for it because when

2:02:44.310,2:02:48.210
taxes are taken from us to pay for we're

2:02:46.260,2:02:49.590
more likely to be vindictive and say I

2:02:48.210,2:02:50.490
don't want to pay for their life to be

2:02:49.590,2:02:52.380
better they shouldn't have done that

2:02:50.490,2:02:54.780
thing I want them to be punished for it

2:02:52.380,2:02:57.590
and that's why we have the system we

2:02:54.780,2:03:00.840
have we need restorative justice

2:02:57.590,2:03:02.820
Ethan Bishop henchman in the comments he

2:03:00.840,2:03:04.290
said turn them over to associations and

2:03:02.820,2:03:07.770
community groups to sponsor their

2:03:04.290,2:03:10.320
treatment and Rehab exactly yes yes

2:03:07.770,2:03:11.850
and Ethan thank you for watching yeah

2:03:10.320,2:03:14.280
Ethan thank you for watching Ethan

2:03:11.850,2:03:16.790
Bishop henchman perfect example I cannot

2:03:14.280,2:03:20.580
remember is it Episcopalian Lutheran

2:03:16.790,2:03:24.990
Presbyterian it's one of those I am

2:03:20.580,2:03:27.720
certain that your church you took off

2:03:24.990,2:03:32.550
church's coffee I'm certain your church

2:03:27.720,2:03:36.890
or your parish or your Bishop 'dom I am

2:03:32.550,2:03:39.630
not good at this but your non-jewish

2:03:36.890,2:03:42.120
what you call your place of worship

2:03:39.630,2:03:45.150
would be more than happy to help people

2:03:42.120,2:03:47.520
who are in this situation with this

2:03:45.150,2:03:50.070
exact type of thing Episcopalian I knew

2:03:47.520,2:03:53.610
it Episcopalian that was the first one I

2:03:50.070,2:03:56.190
said right yes I think yes because I

2:03:53.610,2:03:58.080
knew it I knew it was Episcopalian I

2:03:56.190,2:04:01.170
should never second-guess myself

2:03:58.080,2:04:03.540
and so the I'm certain that your church

2:04:01.170,2:04:04.290
would be more than happy to help with

2:04:03.540,2:04:06.690
this type of a thing

2:04:04.290,2:04:13.920
much more than they would want for their

2:04:06.690,2:04:16.470
parishioners to be taxed to to pay for

2:04:13.920,2:04:18.300
people to have their life's ruins Ethan

2:04:16.470,2:04:23.820
Ethan is talking about the Protestant

2:04:18.300,2:04:26.370
gays fun story I don't even remember it

2:04:23.820,2:04:29.010
oh yeah no so we did an AMA I did an AMA

2:04:26.370,2:04:33.180
with with Ethan and his husband Joe

2:04:29.010,2:04:35.040
Bishop henchmen and - it was it was

2:04:33.180,2:04:37.020
geared towards the the pragmatist caucus

2:04:35.040,2:04:39.180
but it was anyone can watch it and it

2:04:37.020,2:04:41.460
was to talk about my run for vice

2:04:39.180,2:04:42.660
president and why I thought I should get

2:04:41.460,2:04:44.220
the nomination and it must have worked

2:04:42.660,2:04:50.070
thanks again guys

2:04:44.220,2:04:52.410
but the in in it I talked about Calvin

2:04:50.070,2:04:55.500
Coolidge and we talked about how dire he

2:04:52.410,2:04:58.560
was how'd our he was and out and I said

2:04:55.500,2:05:00.930
the Protestant gays meaning the

2:04:58.560,2:05:02.820
Protestant gate look when you gaze at

2:05:00.930,2:05:05.280
someone with your eyes disapprovingly

2:05:02.820,2:05:11.250
and that's an actual term the protestant

2:05:05.280,2:05:14.730
gaze i said the protestant gaze Ethan

2:05:11.250,2:05:25.130
and Joe got the weirdest look on their

2:05:14.730,2:05:25.130
face Ethan and Joe being both a

2:05:25.370,2:05:31.110
homosexual and Protestant thought I was

2:05:29.250,2:05:33.350
doing some kind of weird flex on them or

2:05:31.110,2:05:36.030
something I'm not 100% sure what you

2:05:33.350,2:05:38.700
what you what you thought I was trying

2:05:36.030,2:05:43.650
to accomplish there but I I said

2:05:38.700,2:05:45.120
Protestant gays they looked a little now

2:05:43.650,2:05:46.980
I would say off but I think they didn't

2:05:45.120,2:05:48.330
know what to think and so I thought oh

2:05:46.980,2:05:51.840
they must not have heard of the

2:05:48.330,2:05:54.420
Protestant gays before and so went

2:05:51.840,2:05:56.180
through the entire episode to the entire

2:05:54.420,2:06:00.510
AMA had a great time and then afterwards

2:05:56.180,2:06:04.140
they said I don't even remember how it

2:06:00.510,2:06:05.700
came up but they went you know why did

2:06:04.140,2:06:09.240
you bring up that word Protestant gays

2:06:05.700,2:06:11.700
or something like that and I said no

2:06:09.240,2:06:14.520
that gays guys that that's like

2:06:11.700,2:06:17.760
with the with your and so the best part

2:06:14.520,2:06:20.250
about that is that for the better and

2:06:17.760,2:06:21.720
they were so kind about it and that made

2:06:20.250,2:06:24.420
me respect the two of them much more

2:06:21.720,2:06:26.190
because I said something that if I had

2:06:24.420,2:06:28.050
been in their situation and had not

2:06:26.190,2:06:30.300
known what I was talking about I would

2:06:28.050,2:06:34.320
have thought is he trying to be snarky

2:06:30.300,2:06:36.570
with us and they were so gracious about

2:06:34.320,2:06:39.530
it and let it roll off their off their

2:06:36.570,2:06:41.970
their back like got like a duck that I

2:06:39.530,2:06:45.200
I'm grateful for that

2:06:41.970,2:06:56.300
thank you for your your your Protestant

2:06:45.200,2:07:01.220
grace grac II right just making sure so

2:06:56.300,2:07:01.220
here we go got some questions here

2:07:01.230,2:07:06.270
what are you Andrew William Brown says

2:07:03.780,2:07:11.510
what are your stances on people I love

2:07:06.270,2:07:14.130
them they are the power Opie 'pl people

2:07:11.510,2:07:17.720
my stance is that I'm spike Cohen and

2:07:14.130,2:07:17.720
you are the power

2:07:18.410,2:07:22.290
Christopher McQueen says I was put on

2:07:20.610,2:07:25.140
two years probation for a first offense

2:07:22.290,2:07:27.600
DUI in Texas County Missouri went to

2:07:25.140,2:07:29.130
jail twice for violating probation on

2:07:27.600,2:07:30.210
minor offenses had to pay eighty two

2:07:29.130,2:07:32.400
dollars a month for the breathalyzer

2:07:30.210,2:07:34.680
forty a month for probation fees and

2:07:32.400,2:07:37.320
raised insurance costs exactly they get

2:07:34.680,2:07:39.240
you on that probation no you man they

2:07:37.320,2:07:40.740
put they get you on that probation and

2:07:39.240,2:07:42.450
it's like okay you already made them

2:07:40.740,2:07:43.770
this mistake now we're gonna make it so

2:07:42.450,2:07:48.720
that if you if you make a similar

2:07:43.770,2:07:51.960
mistake or any mistake we're gonna

2:07:48.720,2:07:54.570
really like harm you your life like a

2:07:51.960,2:07:55.980
lot and especially if you're in smaller

2:07:54.570,2:07:57.990
towns police already know who you are

2:07:55.980,2:07:59.400
they know you got probation they know

2:07:57.990,2:08:00.750
they can get an easy collar if they can

2:07:59.400,2:08:01.950
catch you doing something you know

2:08:00.750,2:08:03.690
something maybe you shouldn't be doing

2:08:01.950,2:08:07.350
something that really isn't even

2:08:03.690,2:08:10.230
anyone's business it's just it's just

2:08:07.350,2:08:13.170
it's here it's like it is it's not just

2:08:10.230,2:08:15.870
punitive justice it is destructive

2:08:13.170,2:08:18.600
justice I think Ethan Ethan called it

2:08:15.870,2:08:20.420
regressive justice it's just it is using

2:08:18.600,2:08:23.730
justice as a means of dragging people

2:08:20.420,2:08:25.590
into poverty or if they're already in

2:08:23.730,2:08:28.050
poverty making sure they remain

2:08:25.590,2:08:29.969
in poverty and have no means to get out

2:08:28.050,2:08:32.429
of it it is just a vindictive and

2:08:29.969,2:08:33.030
cynical way of looking at your fellow

2:08:32.429,2:08:34.380
person

2:08:33.030,2:08:36.179
so I guess maybe that was what what are

2:08:34.380,2:08:37.320
your stances on people my stances on

2:08:36.179,2:08:39.389
people is that we should be a lot more

2:08:37.320,2:08:42.420
kind to them and that justice should be

2:08:39.389,2:08:43.590
about leading to less harm in the future

2:08:42.420,2:08:48.150
than there would have been with our

2:08:43.590,2:08:50.340
current system if Thomas Gambel says if

2:08:48.150,2:08:52.860
you're unhappy with war wasted tax

2:08:50.340,2:08:55.679
dollars marginal quality overpriced

2:08:52.860,2:08:56.940
health care falling education ratings

2:08:55.679,2:08:58.560
and less control of your life stop

2:08:56.940,2:08:59.969
voting for the two parties that have

2:08:58.560,2:09:02.580
been in control of America for the last

2:08:59.969,2:09:04.409
150 years I'm voting for dr. Joe

2:09:02.580,2:09:06.510
Jorgenson to bring our service members

2:09:04.409,2:09:08.670
home restore individual liberty and

2:09:06.510,2:09:11.670
constitutional governments hashtag Joe

2:09:08.670,2:09:13.500
2020 hashtag team Joe hashtag vote Gold

2:09:11.670,2:09:15.239
hashtag libertarian thanks for your

2:09:13.500,2:09:17.940
support Thomas that means a lot

2:09:15.239,2:09:18.900
Craig decosta says I tell my clients

2:09:17.940,2:09:20.730
this all the time

2:09:18.900,2:09:23.570
I point out how my fees are a hundred

2:09:20.730,2:09:27.570
times more than the most expensive uber

2:09:23.570,2:09:29.099
/ lyft oso / lift ride they can imagine

2:09:27.570,2:09:31.260
unfortunately it already happened also I

2:09:29.099,2:09:33.210
tried using uber in my country ass

2:09:31.260,2:09:34.860
location and they were not running by

2:09:33.210,2:09:36.599
the time I was done drinking good thing

2:09:34.860,2:09:38.280
a friend drove me home and this is the

2:09:36.599,2:09:41.099
thing like we need to just look at this

2:09:38.280,2:09:41.760
as someone did something that isn't the

2:09:41.099,2:09:47.570
best idea

2:09:41.760,2:09:49.949
let's fix it and now make it so that

2:09:47.570,2:09:53.849
whoever may have been victimized by this

2:09:49.949,2:09:56.099
situation can be made whole to whatever

2:09:53.849,2:09:59.099
extent possible and the person who did

2:09:56.099,2:10:01.889
it can learn from it and do better in

2:09:59.099,2:10:04.560
the future and maybe we find that

2:10:01.889,2:10:09.239
there's something that caused them to do

2:10:04.560,2:10:10.800
that that can be dealt with so that they

2:10:09.239,2:10:11.909
don't do it in the future and the law

2:10:10.800,2:10:13.980
and order people go well that's that's

2:10:11.909,2:10:15.980
gonna make people go and commit crimes

2:10:13.980,2:10:18.119
to get help no it's not

2:10:15.980,2:10:19.889
no one wants interactions with the

2:10:18.119,2:10:22.199
police for no reason it's not gonna make

2:10:19.889,2:10:25.050
people people who are otherwise okay are

2:10:22.199,2:10:27.270
not gonna go out and commit crimes and

2:10:25.050,2:10:29.909
risk interactions with the police in

2:10:27.270,2:10:32.159
order to get some help and if you're

2:10:29.909,2:10:33.599
worried that they might do that well

2:10:32.159,2:10:35.699
then that's a great idea to get rid of

2:10:33.599,2:10:38.040
the laws that make it hard for voluntary

2:10:35.699,2:10:39.480
organizations to help people before they

2:10:38.040,2:10:42.989
do cries for help like that

2:10:39.480,2:10:45.630
what a fantastic segue into ending the

2:10:42.989,2:10:47.340
all of the ridiculous health and labor

2:10:45.630,2:10:49.860
department restrictions that make it

2:10:47.340,2:10:51.450
nearly impossible in most states to be

2:10:49.860,2:10:54.180
able to help people without having to

2:10:51.450,2:10:55.860
spend tens or thousands or tens of

2:10:54.180,2:10:57.150
thousands of dollars in absurd

2:10:55.860,2:10:58.980
compliance costs for no good reason

2:10:57.150,2:11:00.810
other than to prevent people from being

2:10:58.980,2:11:02.780
able to help each other now

2:11:00.810,2:11:05.610
whether what I've always said is that

2:11:02.780,2:11:09.600
driving drunk shouldn't be shouldn't be

2:11:05.610,2:11:13.980
a serious crime unless you hurt somebody

2:11:09.600,2:11:16.020
or something while doing so if you hurt

2:11:13.980,2:11:17.400
somebody while doing it I don't think

2:11:16.020,2:11:19.380
you should be able to claim oh I was

2:11:17.400,2:11:21.620
drunk it shouldn't count I think that

2:11:19.380,2:11:24.420
then it should be oh no of course not no

2:11:21.620,2:11:27.540
and and that's the thing part of the

2:11:24.420,2:11:30.570
risk is if you do this you could end up

2:11:27.540,2:11:32.489
you know in jail for a long time and

2:11:30.570,2:11:34.350
have that on your on your conscience

2:11:32.489,2:11:36.180
that you killed someone or maim someone

2:11:34.350,2:11:38.580
or greatly harm someone or almost killed

2:11:36.180,2:11:40.220
someone or whatever but and again I'm

2:11:38.580,2:11:43.230
not even saying that we shouldn't be

2:11:40.220,2:11:46.830
stopping you know actively working to

2:11:43.230,2:11:48.570
stop DUIs because duis in and of

2:11:46.830,2:11:51.060
themselves people like to say duis

2:11:48.570,2:11:53.760
aren't victimless are victimless crimes

2:11:51.060,2:11:57.210
I think duis are crimes that are waiting

2:11:53.760,2:12:01.590
for a victim in a similar way that if I

2:11:57.210,2:12:03.690
walk out if I walk into the street if I

2:12:01.590,2:12:06.780
if I'm walking down the sidewalk and

2:12:03.690,2:12:08.520
just shooting my gun in the air that in

2:12:06.780,2:12:10.230
and of itself I haven't created a victim

2:12:08.520,2:12:14.310
yet until those bullets start falling

2:12:10.230,2:12:16.680
from the sky and killing people which by

2:12:14.310,2:12:17.970
the way don't ever shoot a gun in the

2:12:16.680,2:12:19.890
air like that especially if you're in

2:12:17.970,2:12:22.010
like a suburban or metro area because

2:12:19.890,2:12:24.150
those bullets this isn't this isn't a

2:12:22.010,2:12:26.670
Nintendo video game like the bullets

2:12:24.150,2:12:28.680
fall they don't like eat up in the

2:12:26.670,2:12:31.500
atmosphere anyway so the point of that

2:12:28.680,2:12:33.660
is of a crime a victim is waiting to

2:12:31.500,2:12:35.280
happen you might get lucky and get home

2:12:33.660,2:12:37.410
without any victims being created but

2:12:35.280,2:12:38.970
you are making conditions that could

2:12:37.410,2:12:41.489
lead to a victim happening I'm not

2:12:38.970,2:12:44.730
saying don't stop or or even don't tow

2:12:41.489,2:12:46.800
the cars of DUI people that are driving

2:12:44.730,2:12:48.510
under the influence I am saying there is

2:12:46.800,2:12:52.440
a better way to deal with it this way

2:12:48.510,2:12:53.369
has not worked this way has just ruined

2:12:52.440,2:12:56.280
people's lives

2:12:53.369,2:13:00.179
a better way is to actually deal with

2:12:56.280,2:13:02.129
the situation and try to try to find the

2:13:00.179,2:13:04.289
cause of why it happened in the first

2:13:02.129,2:13:07.110
place and make whole anyone who was

2:13:04.289,2:13:10.999
actually victimized but instead of this

2:13:07.110,2:13:13.439
focus on we are all people that can name

2:13:10.999,2:13:14.639
dozens of times that we screwed up and

2:13:13.439,2:13:16.709
could have been it could have ended up

2:13:14.639,2:13:18.329
in jail if the situation had been

2:13:16.709,2:13:20.639
different if you know if a cop had been

2:13:18.329,2:13:22.379
there basically we can all name dozen

2:13:20.639,2:13:23.820
some of us hundreds of times that we

2:13:22.379,2:13:25.499
would have ended up in jail but then

2:13:23.820,2:13:26.820
many of us when we hear that someone

2:13:25.499,2:13:27.899
else did the same thing we go well they

2:13:26.820,2:13:30.239
shouldn't have done it throw them in

2:13:27.899,2:13:32.879
jail ruin their life no we're all people

2:13:30.239,2:13:34.499
who make mistakes let's try to instead

2:13:32.879,2:13:36.179
make people whole so people can go back

2:13:34.499,2:13:38.189
to living their lives and maybe thrive

2:13:36.179,2:13:40.349
and learn from it and then if there's an

2:13:38.189,2:13:41.999
actual like root cause of a of a

2:13:40.349,2:13:43.619
consistent behavior and it's not just

2:13:41.999,2:13:45.899
someone making a stupid mistake but an

2:13:43.619,2:13:47.369
actual consistent behavior finding the

2:13:45.899,2:13:50.159
root cause of that and dealing with it

2:13:47.369,2:13:53.280
so that it doesn't happen anymore it

2:13:50.159,2:13:56.849
costs less money it costs less time it

2:13:53.280,2:13:58.949
leads to less a bad outcomes it leads to

2:13:56.849,2:14:01.260
more people having learned their lesson

2:13:58.949,2:14:03.269
and being able to get ahead and it leads

2:14:01.260,2:14:06.739
to the victims of these things actually

2:14:03.269,2:14:09.739
being made whole why wouldn't we do it

2:14:06.739,2:14:09.739
anyway

2:14:11.099,2:14:17.340
Ike Sanchez says I'm from a small town

2:14:15.149,2:14:20.070
got targeted because I smoked the ganja

2:14:17.340,2:14:23.699
now I have a pending felony for a plant

2:14:20.070,2:14:25.199
shouldn't have been illegal yeah that

2:14:23.699,2:14:26.459
goes beyond restorative justice you

2:14:25.199,2:14:27.479
shouldn't have even gone to jail for

2:14:26.459,2:14:29.099
that or you shouldn't have even been

2:14:27.479,2:14:30.629
arrested they shouldn't have even taken

2:14:29.099,2:14:32.519
it none of their business

2:14:30.629,2:14:34.409
right don't know where you're from sorry

2:14:32.519,2:14:35.459
for all of that that sucks and it

2:14:34.409,2:14:37.409
shouldn't be illegal

2:14:35.459,2:14:39.659
Christopher McQueen I was never asked to

2:14:37.409,2:14:41.610
go to a a by the judge he just threw the

2:14:39.659,2:14:43.439
book at me and gave me probation I go to

2:14:41.610,2:14:44.639
a a now on my own because I needed help

2:14:43.439,2:14:45.570
I wish someone told me to go to AAA

2:14:44.639,2:14:47.519
exactly

2:14:45.570,2:14:51.389
imagine if the judge had just said hey

2:14:47.519,2:14:52.679
listen go to AAA or go to al-anon or

2:14:51.389,2:14:54.209
whatever you know go to one of these

2:14:52.679,2:14:55.320
groups and go through the program and

2:14:54.209,2:14:57.629
come back and show me that you've done

2:14:55.320,2:14:58.769
it and you know I want you to I want you

2:14:57.629,2:15:00.719
to keep coming back and show me you

2:14:58.769,2:15:02.849
stayed clean for six months and in the

2:15:00.719,2:15:04.379
meantime or a year or whatever and in

2:15:02.849,2:15:05.820
the meantime I'm not gonna put anything

2:15:04.379,2:15:07.200
on your record you're not on probation

2:15:05.820,2:15:10.410
you're not whatever but you

2:15:07.200,2:15:12.510
to do this minimum sentencing guidelines

2:15:10.410,2:15:14.730
make this impossible for judges to be

2:15:12.510,2:15:17.460
able to like come up with common-sense

2:15:14.730,2:15:21.600
empathetic creative ways of saying hey

2:15:17.460,2:15:24.030
listen I you know I you shouldn't have

2:15:21.600,2:15:26.220
done this it's a it sounds to me like

2:15:24.030,2:15:27.510
you got a drinking problem before I

2:15:26.220,2:15:28.950
throw the book at you were punished you

2:15:27.510,2:15:30.180
I want you to get help I think you need

2:15:28.950,2:15:31.800
to get help I think you can agree you

2:15:30.180,2:15:34.290
need to get help so get help in them and

2:15:31.800,2:15:36.090
then and then six months from now a year

2:15:34.290,2:15:37.080
from now I go hey that's great

2:15:36.090,2:15:38.880
you never have to talk to me again

2:15:37.080,2:15:42.990
hopefully you don't get in trouble and

2:15:38.880,2:15:45.690
now you're sober this incident was the

2:15:42.990,2:15:48.270
catalyst instead of you having a burden

2:15:45.690,2:15:51.210
instead it's a catalyst for you removing

2:15:48.270,2:15:53.550
a burden so you can get ahead and again

2:15:51.210,2:15:56.970
as the former Law & Order conservative

2:15:53.550,2:15:58.470
that I am I know all those things that

2:15:56.970,2:16:00.390
people say when they hear this stuff

2:15:58.470,2:16:01.830
what with government helping people I'm

2:16:00.390,2:16:02.100
not even saying government needs to do

2:16:01.830,2:16:04.530
it

2:16:02.100,2:16:07.620
I'm just saying government doesn't harm

2:16:04.530,2:16:10.410
them doesn't arrest them tells them hey

2:16:07.620,2:16:12.390
listen go find someone who will help you

2:16:10.410,2:16:16.050
with this like an a a like an al-anon

2:16:12.390,2:16:18.000
like the you know like a church like any

2:16:16.050,2:16:20.430
of these things any of these groups that

2:16:18.000,2:16:22.320
would love to help people and would love

2:16:20.430,2:16:24.600
to help people get get back on their

2:16:22.320,2:16:26.700
feet or to address problems that they

2:16:24.600,2:16:29.100
have they would love that there's a

2:16:26.700,2:16:31.620
there's a ssin in in in Horry County

2:16:29.100,2:16:33.960
that gives free counseling service to

2:16:31.620,2:16:35.430
people that are lower income and I think

2:16:33.960,2:16:37.080
it's on a sliding scale - I think

2:16:35.430,2:16:39.150
there's free and then depending on your

2:16:37.080,2:16:41.070
income you can actually qualify for you

2:16:39.150,2:16:42.900
know let you know less cost where were

2:16:41.070,2:16:45.060
they and it's not government funded it's

2:16:42.900,2:16:49.110
just people don't want to help people

2:16:45.060,2:16:51.090
now one of the times that I had legal

2:16:49.110,2:16:56.450
troubles that was actually part of my

2:16:51.090,2:16:58.920
punishment was to go to na or in na or a

2:16:56.450,2:17:00.570
that was one of the punishments that I

2:16:58.920,2:17:03.090
had to do I also had to do community

2:17:00.570,2:17:06.090
service and some other crap but they

2:17:03.090,2:17:10.469
were like yeah if you can do this then

2:17:06.090,2:17:13.190
you'll be out and the second word in

2:17:10.469,2:17:15.060
both of those letters is anonymous so

2:17:13.190,2:17:16.710
you didn't have to go you just had to

2:17:15.060,2:17:19.469
get the slip signed by anybody it really

2:17:16.710,2:17:20.849
didn't matter and I discovered that very

2:17:19.469,2:17:23.429
quickly when I was

2:17:20.849,2:17:25.639
of that age but you know poor choices

2:17:23.429,2:17:28.320
and I knew that I was not ready to stop

2:17:25.639,2:17:31.440
doing everything that I was doing I knew

2:17:28.320,2:17:33.360
the half life inside of me so I knew

2:17:31.440,2:17:37.410
when I needed to stop doing anything

2:17:33.360,2:17:41.040
before I went to go show up to my tests

2:17:37.410,2:17:43.170
right I and as a result of that you kept

2:17:41.040,2:17:45.150
having interactions with with the police

2:17:43.170,2:17:46.590
and that's the thing and you know

2:17:45.150,2:17:49.889
eventually you realize this would this

2:17:46.590,2:17:51.150
had to stop and give in different

2:17:49.889,2:17:51.660
circumstances you could be in prison

2:17:51.150,2:17:55.889
right now

2:17:51.660,2:17:58.200
ya know many many many years right the

2:17:55.889,2:18:01.349
fact that I am NOT is actually very

2:17:58.200,2:18:04.349
surprising statistically it's not and

2:18:01.349,2:18:06.000
that's the problem is that there are

2:18:04.349,2:18:08.760
different outcomes for different groups

2:18:06.000,2:18:10.410
and identities and and the fact that I

2:18:08.760,2:18:12.540
didn't get caught more often as

2:18:10.410,2:18:15.660
surprising yeah that and that's that's

2:18:12.540,2:18:17.550
fair um so go through some of these a

2:18:15.660,2:18:19.260
Brittany Brissette I'm new to the party

2:18:17.550,2:18:20.490
but I've never supported a presidential

2:18:19.260,2:18:22.170
party the way I support you and Joe

2:18:20.490,2:18:24.120
thank you the common sense you both have

2:18:22.170,2:18:26.460
is so refreshing thank you thank you and

2:18:24.120,2:18:28.320
thank you for for for your support

2:18:26.460,2:18:29.760
Stephanie King my husband lost his

2:18:28.320,2:18:31.800
business a few years ago because they

2:18:29.760,2:18:33.480
impounded his work van when they found a

2:18:31.800,2:18:34.800
small amount of the plant in it and he

2:18:33.480,2:18:37.349
didn't have the money to get it back

2:18:34.800,2:18:38.639
your husband's yeah this is exactly what

2:18:37.349,2:18:39.900
I'm talking about which by the way that

2:18:38.639,2:18:41.070
ends under a Jorgensen Cohen

2:18:39.900,2:18:42.450
administration because not only do we

2:18:41.070,2:18:44.730
end the war on drugs on the federal

2:18:42.450,2:18:47.280
level by declining to enforce these laws

2:18:44.730,2:18:48.750
in the first place and and also by

2:18:47.280,2:18:52.740
firing people in the DEA and not

2:18:48.750,2:18:55.700
replacing them but we also tie the use

2:18:52.740,2:19:00.120
of cooperation between federal and state

2:18:55.700,2:19:03.920
police agencies on they're not violating

2:19:00.120,2:19:07.200
the constitutional rights of their

2:19:03.920,2:19:09.450
residents for example continuing the war

2:19:07.200,2:19:11.309
on drugs on the state level so if we

2:19:09.450,2:19:14.040
don't see them doing that no cooperation

2:19:11.309,2:19:16.860
at the federal level until they get

2:19:14.040,2:19:20.210
their way of policing and interacting

2:19:16.860,2:19:24.450
with the public in line with a very

2:19:20.210,2:19:26.520
closely defined set of limitations set

2:19:24.450,2:19:27.690
forth in the Constitution and as it

2:19:26.520,2:19:30.929
relates to the States

2:19:27.690,2:19:34.110
the affirmation of certain enumerated

2:19:30.929,2:19:34.349
rights that it clearly states that and a

2:19:34.110,2:19:36.479
fur

2:19:34.349,2:19:39.479
writes that it clearly states that the

2:19:36.479,2:19:40.889
American people have so in other words

2:19:39.479,2:19:45.559
we're gonna use that magic parchment and

2:19:40.889,2:19:45.559
actually enforce it so that'll be fun

2:19:46.349,2:19:49.710
Ethan Bishop henchman says that the

2:19:48.000,2:19:50.100
problem is and why people definitely do

2:19:49.710,2:19:51.810
this

2:19:50.100,2:19:53.369
to each other and less well off areas

2:19:51.810,2:19:54.689
like where I'm from some people like

2:19:53.369,2:19:56.520
these laws because they give themselves

2:19:54.689,2:19:57.989
a reason to feel superior to others and

2:19:56.520,2:20:00.210
helps to create visible class

2:19:57.989,2:20:02.609
destinations a very interesting thing

2:20:00.210,2:20:04.560
that Ethan is referring to about what we

2:20:02.609,2:20:05.819
call institutional racism a lot of

2:20:04.560,2:20:08.040
people when they hear institutional

2:20:05.819,2:20:10.020
racism they think that it's just against

2:20:08.040,2:20:12.270
people of color and people that aren't

2:20:10.020,2:20:14.970
white that's not true institutional

2:20:12.270,2:20:16.979
racism was set up to make the vast

2:20:14.970,2:20:20.189
majority of white people who are being

2:20:16.979,2:20:22.140
harmed to some extent by the status quo

2:20:20.189,2:20:24.359
in the system that is in place to feel

2:20:22.140,2:20:26.640
superior to others because well at least

2:20:24.359,2:20:29.489
I'm not as bad off as them which helps

2:20:26.640,2:20:34.470
kind of act as a bomb a soothing balm

2:20:29.489,2:20:36.210
for the distinctions I thought we were I

2:20:34.470,2:20:38.850
thought class destinations that was like

2:20:36.210,2:20:42.119
a new age a new you know hipster type of

2:20:38.850,2:20:44.460
term anyway yeah so I mean it's it's it

2:20:42.119,2:20:46.350
allows them to say well at least I might

2:20:44.460,2:20:49.050
as bad off as that guy instead of saying

2:20:46.350,2:20:50.430
hey this sucks what I'm going through

2:20:49.050,2:20:51.540
and I don't think it's fair on what that

2:20:50.430,2:20:53.460
guy's going through is even worse than

2:20:51.540,2:20:54.960
me what a terrible thing he's going

2:20:53.460,2:20:57.210
through we definitely need to stop

2:20:54.960,2:20:59.699
what's happening to us instead it's it's

2:20:57.210,2:21:02.399
it's laid out in such a way that leads

2:20:59.699,2:21:04.890
people to go well at least in my eyes

2:21:02.399,2:21:06.630
bad off is that guy I'm better I'm

2:21:04.890,2:21:09.540
benefiting from this system no you're

2:21:06.630,2:21:12.869
not not benefit well uh one of our good

2:21:09.540,2:21:14.189
friends posted this week if you don't

2:21:12.869,2:21:15.630
want to get in trick I'm gonna

2:21:14.189,2:21:17.850
paraphrase the crap out of this because

2:21:15.630,2:21:22.229
it's not in front of me but he said if

2:21:17.850,2:21:25.979
you're out there saying if you're out

2:21:22.229,2:21:26.819
there saying how do you put it if you

2:21:25.979,2:21:28.409
don't want to get in trouble with the

2:21:26.819,2:21:30.119
police don't do anything illegal and I

2:21:28.409,2:21:32.580
know the name of your drug dealer you

2:21:30.119,2:21:34.859
should probably just shut up and you see

2:21:32.580,2:21:37.140
that a lot people who do a lot of legal

2:21:34.859,2:21:42.149
things that they know are illegal will

2:21:37.140,2:21:43.020
quickly go to will quickly go to well

2:21:42.149,2:21:44.310
they should have been doing anything

2:21:43.020,2:21:47.279
illegal if they don't want to get there

2:21:44.310,2:21:48.360
you do a legal thing you do with films

2:21:47.279,2:21:50.040
uh

2:21:48.360,2:21:51.931
all of us do what is it the average

2:21:50.040,2:21:57.301
American commits three felonies a day or

2:21:51.931,2:21:59.880
some ridiculous thing 7 this is 7 I mean

2:21:57.301,2:22:05.700
even three is bad enough yeah I'm 90%

2:21:59.880,2:22:07.980
certain at 7 whatever it is more than

2:22:05.700,2:22:11.730
one the average American is is

2:22:07.980,2:22:15.740
committing a felony more than once a day

2:22:11.730,2:22:18.690
you're more than zero yeah

2:22:15.740,2:22:21.511
that means that there you may go through

2:22:18.690,2:22:22.950
your random average day in which you

2:22:21.511,2:22:24.511
feel that you are not doing anything

2:22:22.950,2:22:31.980
illegal like you're just living your

2:22:24.511,2:22:33.870
life on average 7 it's just and this I

2:22:31.980,2:22:36.450
just pulled up an article there's you

2:22:33.870,2:22:38.730
know it says 8 ways we regularly commit

2:22:36.450,2:22:42.630
felonies without realizing it so for us

2:22:38.730,2:22:44.221
to go back and say oh you shouldn't be

2:22:42.630,2:22:45.570
breaking the law well let's first of all

2:22:44.221,2:22:46.980
let's look at if the law is something

2:22:45.570,2:22:49.980
that should even exist if this

2:22:46.980,2:22:53.910
particular law is something that should

2:22:49.980,2:22:55.530
even exist in the first place and if it

2:22:53.910,2:22:56.301
is let's look at how common it is that

2:22:55.530,2:22:58.410
it's broken

2:22:56.301,2:22:59.910
cuz like you know that time when you

2:22:58.410,2:23:02.011
didn't come to a complete and full stop

2:22:59.910,2:23:03.660
at the stop sign because you could

2:23:02.011,2:23:05.400
already see that there was no one

2:23:03.660,2:23:06.750
anywhere near you and you could just

2:23:05.400,2:23:06.931
kind of roll through it you broke the

2:23:06.750,2:23:10.351
law

2:23:06.931,2:23:12.061
that's against the law and if a cop is

2:23:10.351,2:23:14.160
hidden somewhere they can arrest you for

2:23:12.061,2:23:15.690
that or they can pull you over and then

2:23:14.160,2:23:20.221
if they've been pulling you over they

2:23:15.690,2:23:24.931
smell something or you're gonna look it

2:23:20.221,2:23:28.860
up it is 3 it's not 7 still more than 0

2:23:24.931,2:23:31.530
more than 0 and that's the problem it is

2:23:28.860,2:23:33.511
a problem let's go through some of these

2:23:31.530,2:23:38.250
comments here and then what we'll need

2:23:33.511,2:23:42.290
to wrap up because I'm pushing 3 I've

2:23:38.250,2:23:48.091
been doing what we're going into our our

2:23:42.290,2:23:50.250
300 you already gave the website for

2:23:48.091,2:23:54.240
yeah if anyone wants to watch this Muddy

2:23:50.250,2:23:56.070
Waters media.com Vickie Fox whoosh

2:23:54.240,2:23:58.051
Douglas says can't confirm and I'm a

2:23:56.070,2:23:59.730
white survivor of cop brutality keyword

2:23:58.051,2:24:01.771
survivor there's something there

2:23:59.730,2:24:03.391
Casey Neth says

2:24:01.771,2:24:05.370
absolutely just as some jobs are

2:24:03.391,2:24:05.761
dangerous while drinking yeah alcohol is

2:24:05.370,2:24:09.320
legal

2:24:05.761,2:24:12.870
it's about responsible use exactly like

2:24:09.320,2:24:15.330
unless you're having or using something

2:24:12.870,2:24:16.620
is impairing you in such a way at a time

2:24:15.330,2:24:18.721
when it could be dangerous to others

2:24:16.620,2:24:21.030
then it's no one's business

2:24:18.721,2:24:24.450
vixie I hope I'm saying this right vixie

2:24:21.030,2:24:27.450
Fox wished Douglas and Qi and black I

2:24:24.450,2:24:29.551
assume you mean quantitative qualified

2:24:27.450,2:24:31.381
immunity and black lives matter that's

2:24:29.551,2:24:33.171
what our campaign is all about is ending

2:24:31.381,2:24:35.190
that um

2:24:33.171,2:24:37.051
Christopher McQueen people in my town

2:24:35.190,2:24:38.841
check the geo roster every morning just

2:24:37.051,2:24:44.070
so they can gossip we have these stupid

2:24:38.841,2:24:45.570
newspapers at the UM like at gas

2:24:44.070,2:24:48.181
stations when you're checking out and

2:24:45.570,2:24:50.341
there are these newspapers and it shows

2:24:48.181,2:24:52.351
everyone's you know uh you know mug

2:24:50.341,2:24:53.671
shots from that week and people look at

2:24:52.351,2:24:54.900
it oh look at this guy and I'm looking

2:24:53.671,2:24:57.150
at the person saying this I'm like you

2:24:54.900,2:25:00.751
don't look much better and it really is

2:24:57.150,2:25:03.150
this just this like really stratified

2:25:00.751,2:25:05.490
classism but its classism even within

2:25:03.150,2:25:08.120
that class people who just feel superior

2:25:05.490,2:25:12.150
to others and they're leveraging a

2:25:08.120,2:25:14.190
punitive state to give them just some

2:25:12.150,2:25:16.921
semblance of feeling better than others

2:25:14.190,2:25:19.801
because that same state has harmed them

2:25:16.921,2:25:22.141
so much that it has left them and their

2:25:19.801,2:25:24.961
family and their communities in a state

2:25:22.141,2:25:28.051
of stagnant and in a state of just being

2:25:24.961,2:25:29.730
unable to get ahead but they get to read

2:25:28.051,2:25:31.381
that thing that makes them feel a little

2:25:29.730,2:25:33.421
bit better than that guy that just got

2:25:31.381,2:25:36.120
arrested and hope and then hopefully

2:25:33.421,2:25:41.461
they don't get arrested and get made fun

2:25:36.120,2:25:44.671
of next I find Matt's mugshot there are

2:25:41.461,2:25:47.070
multiple so have fun yeah really

2:25:44.671,2:25:48.721
Lance Hawk spike Owen can you comment on

2:25:47.070,2:25:50.311
how the LP will address pollution and

2:25:48.721,2:25:53.490
environmental damage in a deregulated

2:25:50.311,2:25:54.961
corporate environment that's actually

2:25:53.490,2:25:57.301
the answer a treaty regulated

2:25:54.961,2:25:59.190
environment the what we have right now

2:25:57.301,2:26:01.980
is a system whereby the government is

2:25:59.190,2:26:03.330
the largest pollute polluter easily the

2:26:01.980,2:26:06.181
government especially the military is

2:26:03.330,2:26:10.171
the largest polluter largest single

2:26:06.181,2:26:11.521
polluter and they are using they are

2:26:10.171,2:26:14.431
giving carve-outs

2:26:11.521,2:26:15.279
to their favored cronies businesses so

2:26:14.431,2:26:17.770
that when they

2:26:15.279,2:26:20.260
have a massive leak or when they have a

2:26:17.770,2:26:22.689
you know a meltdown or when they you

2:26:20.260,2:26:24.220
know release toxins into the air they

2:26:22.689,2:26:26.350
get carve-outs because they're too big

2:26:24.220,2:26:27.970
to fail the other other thing that

2:26:26.350,2:26:30.580
happens is that they create a series of

2:26:27.970,2:26:34.029
burdensome regulations to our domestic

2:26:30.580,2:26:37.149
business market for one reason I just

2:26:34.029,2:26:39.760
put a one hint for one reason to make it

2:26:37.149,2:26:42.010
so unaffordable to do business here that

2:26:39.760,2:26:43.870
no smaller competitors can rise up and

2:26:42.010,2:26:46.120
disrupt the market and knock any of

2:26:43.870,2:26:49.620
those extremely wealthy well-heeled

2:26:46.120,2:26:53.140
crony businesses off their place and

2:26:49.620,2:26:54.880
what they know is that when they do that

2:26:53.140,2:26:57.069
when they make it unaffordable to do

2:26:54.880,2:26:58.479
business here they can more than afford

2:26:57.069,2:27:00.939
to move their bases of operation

2:26:58.479,2:27:04.479
overseas to places like China and

2:27:00.939,2:27:06.819
Malaysia and Vietnam and Mexico and

2:27:04.479,2:27:09.370
other places to other countries where

2:27:06.819,2:27:11.020
the regulations aren't as high and it

2:27:09.370,2:27:12.760
costs much less to do business here so

2:27:11.020,2:27:14.890
that it's so much less to do business

2:27:12.760,2:27:16.270
there that it's even once you factor in

2:27:14.890,2:27:18.399
the cost and now shipping all of that

2:27:16.270,2:27:20.439
stuff back over here it's still less

2:27:18.399,2:27:21.880
expensive than the overly burdensome

2:27:20.439,2:27:24.370
environment they have created for

2:27:21.880,2:27:26.620
everyone else you know us who can't

2:27:24.370,2:27:28.660
afford that and therefore aren't able to

2:27:26.620,2:27:32.380
do the things we want to do how many

2:27:28.660,2:27:35.830
great ideas have been destroyed because

2:27:32.380,2:27:38.410
some person in their garage couldn't

2:27:35.830,2:27:40.689
afford the thousands or tens of

2:27:38.410,2:27:43.239
thousands or even hundreds of thousands

2:27:40.689,2:27:45.279
of dollars in compliance costs to even

2:27:43.239,2:27:47.470
try to do it in the first place

2:27:45.279,2:27:49.180
and now we look at the environmental

2:27:47.470,2:27:51.040
damage that is happening as a result of

2:27:49.180,2:27:53.649
instead of something being made here and

2:27:51.040,2:27:55.210
shipped here now it's being made

2:27:53.649,2:27:56.590
somewhere else where they have no

2:27:55.210,2:27:58.180
environmental controls or even any

2:27:56.590,2:28:01.120
concern for the environment or

2:27:58.180,2:28:02.649
stewardship for the environment and then

2:28:01.120,2:28:06.279
it shipped back over here which

2:28:02.649,2:28:08.590
exponentially increases the carbon

2:28:06.279,2:28:11.140
footprint for every single one of those

2:28:08.590,2:28:13.180
products that are and goods that are

2:28:11.140,2:28:15.880
being made and shipped over here and now

2:28:13.180,2:28:17.770
it makes sense when you wonder why the

2:28:15.880,2:28:20.770
carbon footprint of the US continues to

2:28:17.770,2:28:23.859
go down while its skyrockets everywhere

2:28:20.770,2:28:26.170
else that's why because all of its being

2:28:23.859,2:28:27.510
moved from here to other places and we

2:28:26.170,2:28:29.140
already know the impact of that

2:28:27.510,2:28:30.670
financially in economic

2:28:29.140,2:28:31.899
the fact that an increasing number of

2:28:30.670,2:28:33.340
people are losing their jobs to

2:28:31.899,2:28:35.470
offshoring of businesses we know the

2:28:33.340,2:28:36.880
social impact of people entire groups of

2:28:35.470,2:28:39.010
people entire communities that used to

2:28:36.880,2:28:40.659
have gainful employment now can't do so

2:28:39.010,2:28:42.040
because the basis of operation for where

2:28:40.659,2:28:44.529
they used to work have been moved

2:28:42.040,2:28:46.960
thousands of miles away leaving them to

2:28:44.529,2:28:48.880
be Ward's of the state which tears on

2:28:46.960,2:28:49.600
the very fabric of a community that

2:28:48.880,2:28:51.550
feels that they are no longer

2:28:49.600,2:28:53.529
contributors and instead are Ward's of

2:28:51.550,2:28:55.029
the state and all of the terrible social

2:28:53.529,2:29:00.340
outcomes that happen as a result of that

2:28:55.029,2:29:02.140
suicide crime fatherless homes addiction

2:29:00.340,2:29:03.970
every terrible thing that happens as a

2:29:02.140,2:29:05.649
result of someone being robbed of their

2:29:03.970,2:29:08.979
dignity and their ability to contribute

2:29:05.649,2:29:12.699
and grow and move ahead but going back

2:29:08.979,2:29:14.350
to your talk about environmentalism take

2:29:12.699,2:29:16.180
the cronies out of it take the

2:29:14.350,2:29:20.229
government out of it and now all of a

2:29:16.180,2:29:22.750
sudden you can't have cronies destroying

2:29:20.229,2:29:24.790
the domestic labor market and the

2:29:22.750,2:29:26.890
domestic business market and bringing

2:29:24.790,2:29:29.170
stuff and and and and doing an end run

2:29:26.890,2:29:30.760
around it and bringing they wouldn't

2:29:29.170,2:29:32.770
have to move those jobs open no one

2:29:30.760,2:29:34.420
would be moving jobs to the other side

2:29:32.770,2:29:36.670
of the planet to dictatorial regimes

2:29:34.420,2:29:38.710
using sweatshop labor and shipping it

2:29:36.670,2:29:40.330
back here if those regulatory burdens

2:29:38.710,2:29:41.949
weren't here in the first place because

2:29:40.330,2:29:44.050
if those regulatory burdens were weren't

2:29:41.949,2:29:45.220
here they just make it here and it would

2:29:44.050,2:29:47.260
be even cheaper than that whole

2:29:45.220,2:29:50.560
arrangement and the environmental cost

2:29:47.260,2:29:52.449
would be much less and all of the people

2:29:50.560,2:29:54.250
who right now are being stopped from

2:29:52.449,2:29:57.220
creating the next amazing thing that

2:29:54.250,2:29:58.659
will help the environment aren't going

2:29:57.220,2:30:00.130
to be stopped from doing so because they

2:29:58.659,2:30:01.630
can't afford the tens or hundreds of

2:30:00.130,2:30:04.870
thousands of dollars in compliance cost

2:30:01.630,2:30:07.359
so that is how you answer it and also if

2:30:04.870,2:30:09.220
you stop doing carve-outs and their

2:30:07.359,2:30:12.130
version of qualified immunity for big

2:30:09.220,2:30:14.199
businesses now they can be sued which is

2:30:12.130,2:30:17.560
a deterrent we've been talking about

2:30:14.199,2:30:18.729
qualified immunity all night if you look

2:30:17.560,2:30:20.199
at our environmental laws they are

2:30:18.729,2:30:23.310
basically a series of qualified immunity

2:30:20.199,2:30:26.140
for big businesses who in exchange for

2:30:23.310,2:30:28.090
exchange of cooperating with the

2:30:26.140,2:30:30.640
authorities never have to pay any real

2:30:28.090,2:30:33.250
they pay mild fines that are nothing

2:30:30.640,2:30:35.680
close to what they'd have to pay in

2:30:33.250,2:30:38.800
lawsuits if they weren't protected by

2:30:35.680,2:30:40.750
the government so on any question when

2:30:38.800,2:30:42.729
people say without government who would

2:30:40.750,2:30:44.949
do X the answer is we

2:30:42.729,2:30:47.949
do X and we wouldn't have the government

2:30:44.949,2:30:48.789
there making it harder or in some cases

2:30:47.949,2:30:50.590
impossible

2:30:48.789,2:30:52.390
so for this specific question without

2:30:50.590,2:30:54.430
government who would protect the

2:30:52.390,2:30:56.350
environment we would and government

2:30:54.430,2:30:58.479
wouldn't stop us from suing the

2:30:56.350,2:31:00.789
polluters and they wouldn't be creating

2:30:58.479,2:31:04.810
barriers that make a much more polluting

2:31:00.789,2:31:07.439
way of doing business more affordable so

2:31:04.810,2:31:07.439
that's the answer for that

2:31:09.930,2:31:15.100
Stephanie King wants to know which

2:31:13.149,2:31:21.819
Hogwarts house you think you'd be sorted

2:31:15.100,2:31:26.260
into Hufflepuff I don't even like i-ight

2:31:21.819,2:31:29.770
that might be Pokemon now that's is that

2:31:26.260,2:31:33.609
is that Harry Potter yes I'm thinking of

2:31:29.770,2:31:37.390
juggling puffs I would be the house of

2:31:33.609,2:31:46.409
Jigglypuff I don't have to think I know

2:31:37.390,2:31:46.409
ravenclaw raven Jigglypuff

2:31:51.250,2:31:56.820
so yeah how's the campaign what's going

2:31:53.050,2:31:59.590
on campaigns going fantastic we have

2:31:56.820,2:32:03.010
tens of thousands of volunteers now our

2:31:59.590,2:32:05.500
our group that was created actually it

2:32:03.010,2:32:06.820
used to just be a private group for Joe

2:32:05.500,2:32:09.850
and her campaign team back when they

2:32:06.820,2:32:12.790
were trying to win the nomination it now

2:32:09.850,2:32:16.690
has something like 40,000 members it is

2:32:12.790,2:32:18.910
incredibly vibrant we have we are well

2:32:16.690,2:32:22.660
we are beyond what was expected in terms

2:32:18.910,2:32:24.310
of fundraising goals and I'm not sure if

2:32:22.660,2:32:25.870
NDA allows me to say what that amount is

2:32:24.310,2:32:27.460
I think it does but it just to be safe

2:32:25.870,2:32:29.650
I'm not gonna say it but we are ahead of

2:32:27.460,2:32:33.250
what we were expected to be at at this

2:32:29.650,2:32:34.840
point and unlike the previous ticket we

2:32:33.250,2:32:40.210
aren't just handing all of it to ron

2:32:34.840,2:32:42.760
nielsen and so going incredibly well on

2:32:40.210,2:32:45.130
a personal note I'm going to be so my

2:32:42.760,2:32:49.510
episode that I referenced from last week

2:32:45.130,2:32:52.300
my episode with my panel with Antonio

2:32:49.510,2:32:54.550
Okafor over there on the Left she's the

2:32:52.300,2:32:57.280
director of outreach for the Gun Owners

2:32:54.550,2:33:00.610
of America who are like the NRA except

2:32:57.280,2:33:05.820
they don't suck and on the right there

2:33:00.610,2:33:08.440
Marshall TIG Davis who is the she's a

2:33:05.820,2:33:11.110
nationally regarded firearms instructor

2:33:08.440,2:33:13.360
and the owner of My Sister's Keeper

2:33:11.110,2:33:15.400
defense we had an amazing panel

2:33:13.360,2:33:17.530
discussion on my show my fellow

2:33:15.400,2:33:19.090
Americans where we talked about the

2:33:17.530,2:33:21.520
Second Amendment and civil liberties and

2:33:19.090,2:33:22.990
self-protection and the interaction

2:33:21.520,2:33:25.750
between police and communities of color

2:33:22.990,2:33:28.630
and the history of those interactions

2:33:25.750,2:33:30.610
and civil and I think I already said

2:33:28.630,2:33:34.570
civil liberties and all sorts of stuff

2:33:30.610,2:33:36.370
it went so well that I am currently

2:33:34.570,2:33:39.400
working with the Gun Owners of America

2:33:36.370,2:33:42.370
and the Libertarian Party and Antonia

2:33:39.400,2:33:44.290
and I believe take as well to do an

2:33:42.370,2:33:46.540
expanded version of that panel at the

2:33:44.290,2:33:47.980
convention and so the details on that

2:33:46.540,2:33:50.950
will be available soon we're still

2:33:47.980,2:33:53.020
working on the exact dates and the exact

2:33:50.950,2:33:54.310
layout but it's looking like it's gonna

2:33:53.020,2:33:57.520
be a really cool thing we're gonna have

2:33:54.310,2:33:58.860
hopefully both of them back and then

2:33:57.520,2:34:01.900
we'll have a few more people

2:33:58.860,2:34:03.730
representing to demonstrate that it sort

2:34:01.900,2:34:04.760
of debunk the whole idea that gun rights

2:34:03.730,2:34:08.810
are a hey wait

2:34:04.760,2:34:11.060
thing and and that it's you know they're

2:34:08.810,2:34:13.430
about self-protection it's about being

2:34:11.060,2:34:16.130
able to be on equal footing with those

2:34:13.430,2:34:17.569
who presume adore you it's about your

2:34:16.130,2:34:19.250
civil liberty to be able to defend

2:34:17.569,2:34:21.080
yourself it's about self-protection it's

2:34:19.250,2:34:23.710
about all of those things and so that's

2:34:21.080,2:34:26.899
a it's an incredible thing it's

2:34:23.710,2:34:27.410
fantastic and campaigns been going

2:34:26.899,2:34:33.410
amazing

2:34:27.410,2:34:34.460
go ahead I was gonna say Aaron though if

2:34:33.410,2:34:37.640
I pronounced that wrong here and I

2:34:34.460,2:34:39.200
apologize if t-shirts coming soon I

2:34:37.640,2:34:40.340
assume she means for the campaign but

2:34:39.200,2:34:42.260
just in case she doesn't go to muddy

2:34:40.340,2:34:44.270
waters mediacom and go visit the store

2:34:42.260,2:34:45.740
yeah we have a store we have a store but

2:34:44.270,2:34:47.479
for the campaign the branded merchandise

2:34:45.740,2:34:49.520
is coming very soon I believe this

2:34:47.479,2:34:51.260
coming week that that's gonna be rolled

2:34:49.520,2:34:52.580
out but there is already some branded

2:34:51.260,2:34:56.090
merchandise I don't know about a shirt

2:34:52.580,2:35:05.149
but if you go to the LP store which is I

2:34:56.090,2:35:07.250
think dot org there's already some

2:35:05.149,2:35:08.540
Jorgensen Cohen's stuff there but that

2:35:07.250,2:35:10.160
we do have the brain of merchandise

2:35:08.540,2:35:12.950
coming very very soon

2:35:10.160,2:35:16.420
and Ethan Bishop henchman wants to know

2:35:12.950,2:35:19.460
if we're both coming to convention I'm

2:35:16.420,2:35:21.439
99% certain spike is going and I will be

2:35:19.460,2:35:24.470
there some days since I don't live all

2:35:21.439,2:35:30.649
that far yeah I will definitely be there

2:35:24.470,2:35:33.950
I'll actually be at the hotel and I will

2:35:30.649,2:35:37.790
show up whenever I deem it necessary to

2:35:33.950,2:35:40.189
drive to Orlando and back and back and

2:35:37.790,2:35:43.479
back yeah he'll be there we'll both be

2:35:40.189,2:35:48.279
there I will be there be there because

2:35:43.479,2:35:52.670
I'm the vice presidential candidate and

2:35:48.279,2:35:54.020
so let's see here um is GOI going to

2:35:52.670,2:35:56.210
officially endorse you that would be

2:35:54.020,2:35:58.939
amazing I don't know I'm certainly

2:35:56.210,2:36:03.550
certainly not expecting or demanding

2:35:58.939,2:36:03.550
that but uh that would be amazing

2:36:06.010,2:36:11.750
no pressure

2:36:07.779,2:36:13.580
mark Mauricio says as president VP how

2:36:11.750,2:36:15.740
would you and Joe weigh in if a state

2:36:13.580,2:36:17.530
wish to secede I'm going to leave that

2:36:15.740,2:36:20.700
to Joe I don't know that we have

2:36:17.530,2:36:24.990
official position on secession I

2:36:20.700,2:36:24.990
certainly have some opinions about it

2:36:31.500,2:36:38.021
I'm pretty certain most people can guess

2:36:35.320,2:36:39.790
it yeah

2:36:38.021,2:36:41.650
will there be flags I need one to

2:36:39.790,2:36:43.030
counteract the giant Trump flag okay we

2:36:41.650,2:36:44.590
get asked that a lie when I want a

2:36:43.030,2:36:46.601
calendar might this in my neighbors

2:36:44.590,2:36:48.160
Trump flack there will be flags and I

2:36:46.601,2:36:51.521
believe they'll peace Torah has flags

2:36:48.160,2:36:52.931
right now but we will be flug political

2:36:51.521,2:36:55.090
prisoner to yes you should be there yeah

2:36:52.931,2:36:56.891
exactly I kind of have to be there even

2:36:55.090,2:37:00.700
if I I don't want to be there but even

2:36:56.891,2:37:04.420
if I didn't want to be there I have to

2:37:00.700,2:37:08.710
be there Sarah and Andrew noted super

2:37:04.420,2:37:12.070
fan Sarah Anne and reg Nona

2:37:08.710,2:37:14.530
says I'll probably drive because gas

2:37:12.070,2:37:17.500
mileage okay well yeah we're gonna go

2:37:14.530,2:37:19.690
together so she is going to be driving

2:37:17.500,2:37:23.650
because her car gets much better gas

2:37:19.690,2:37:27.540
mileage than my Jeep well yeah because

2:37:23.650,2:37:29.561
it closes it's a car cuz it's a car

2:37:27.540,2:37:30.820
Ethan I assume they wouldn't care as

2:37:29.561,2:37:33.610
long as there was a free and transparent

2:37:30.820,2:37:36.101
referendum when most of the population

2:37:33.610,2:37:40.351
wasn't enslaved and unable to vote hey

2:37:36.101,2:37:40.351
that sounds like something I might say

2:37:40.980,2:37:51.910
about secession it might but that sounds

2:37:49.931,2:37:56.830
very close to something they'd say it

2:37:51.910,2:38:01.391
sounds like certainly don't want to see

2:37:56.830,2:38:04.210
verbatim I don't want to tip my hand

2:38:01.391,2:38:08.380
here or anything but that sounds like

2:38:04.210,2:38:15.271
like a real in that a real great day in

2:38:08.380,2:38:22.750
the morning oh it's Reynolds just really

2:38:15.271,2:38:24.670
just know the answers 18 by the way just

2:38:22.750,2:38:27.490
so you know Chris Reynolds but thank you

2:38:24.670,2:38:29.230
for pointing it out I'm not reading it

2:38:27.490,2:38:30.740
out loud people can just guess what 18

2:38:29.230,2:38:33.760
that's probably just as well

2:38:30.740,2:38:36.650
honestly I think you needed a little

2:38:33.760,2:38:38.630
we're also dropping driving stopping for

2:38:36.650,2:38:42.891
a super gay libertarian day at the beach

2:38:38.630,2:38:47.230
for my birthday on the 6th so so Beach

2:38:42.891,2:38:47.230
gays we um

2:38:48.250,2:38:53.500
there were something I was gonna say but

2:38:50.300,2:38:56.540
Beach gays I threw myself off of that

2:38:53.500,2:38:58.641
you're stopping in Florida at a beach

2:38:56.540,2:39:02.870
like that is literally Florida

2:38:58.641,2:39:04.730
- like part of the middle hey you could

2:39:02.870,2:39:07.130
stop anywhere yeah there's so many

2:39:04.730,2:39:11.210
places to stop it's really just a giant

2:39:07.130,2:39:15.590
beach it's like a giant phallus shaped

2:39:11.210,2:39:18.910
beach that was the original Florida

2:39:15.590,2:39:21.910
motto back when it was part of New Spain

2:39:18.910,2:39:21.910
yes

2:39:26.970,2:39:42.220
hey Matt okay stopping in South Carolina

2:39:31.990,2:39:47.320
oh we're in South Carolina yeah the

2:39:42.220,2:39:49.601
original the original Floridian motto

2:39:47.320,2:39:52.240
back when it was part of Spain was and

2:39:49.601,2:40:02.250
really died it's almost solo una playa

2:39:52.240,2:40:09.460
Gigante and for my dear fellow so Matt

2:40:02.250,2:40:11.940
yes I'm just really tight like I can't

2:40:09.460,2:40:15.790
even end this show on that tire Matt

2:40:11.940,2:40:17.320
about 20 minutes ago it's just like I'm

2:40:15.790,2:40:22.630
not even doing a show at this point I'm

2:40:17.320,2:40:27.130
just talking to people uh so Matt hey hi

2:40:22.630,2:40:30.940
if people hey if people were to want to

2:40:27.130,2:40:34.750
find us on the internet how is that even

2:40:30.940,2:40:37.930
possible it is possible they can head

2:40:34.750,2:40:40.240
over to anchor dot F M / muddied waters

2:40:37.930,2:40:43.680
and follow us if you just want to hear

2:40:40.240,2:40:49.960
our sweet buttery sultry voices I know I

2:40:43.680,2:41:12.790
know just wake up to this and ASMR

2:40:49.960,2:41:13.900
everybody up rise shouldn't do this for

2:41:12.790,2:41:16.930
the campaign if you want to follow the

2:41:13.900,2:41:20.260
campaign go to joj 2020 dot-com or you

2:41:16.930,2:41:24.271
can follow me on twitter at real spike

2:41:20.260,2:41:29.440
Cohen or on Facebook at facebook.com

2:41:24.271,2:41:34.030
slash literally spike Cohen so we have a

2:41:29.440,2:41:36.430
show Tuesday right yeah yeah so we'll be

2:41:34.030,2:41:39.340
back check us out in three days yeah

2:41:36.430,2:41:41.760
we'll be back on Tuesday having used

2:41:39.340,2:41:43.930
most of our content for Tuesday today

2:41:41.760,2:41:48.580
it's gonna be it's gonna be like a

2:41:43.930,2:41:51.700
40-minute show and unless nigga happens

2:41:48.580,2:41:53.080
I may just like pull the Trump the Trump

2:41:51.700,2:41:55.510
rally and just take we'll just talk

2:41:53.080,2:41:58.149
about the Trump rally yeah it'd be like

2:41:55.510,2:42:02.350
it'll be like a minisode it's like a 20

2:41:58.149,2:42:06.399
minute deal so yeah we will be back on

2:42:02.350,2:42:11.350
Tuesday and Wednesday bound to do

2:42:06.399,2:42:14.260
something on Wednesday meet looking

2:42:11.350,2:42:17.340
forward me too can't wait to tell you it

2:42:14.260,2:42:17.340
can't wait

2:42:17.640,2:42:24.520
yeah that's hey everybody enjoy your

2:42:21.250,2:42:26.290
first day of summer and oh by the way

2:42:24.520,2:42:27.670
I'm not sure if it's true or not but

2:42:26.290,2:42:29.260
allegedly the world was supposed to end

2:42:27.670,2:42:41.859
tomorrow so we may not have the

2:42:29.260,2:42:45.430
Aleutians wait according to whom it's

2:42:41.859,2:42:48.189
has something to do with the Gregorian

2:42:45.430,2:42:50.260
calendar transverse to transposed to the

2:42:48.189,2:42:55.600
caesarean calendar and how it didn't

2:42:50.260,2:42:58.510
match up to the December 12th 2020 or

2:42:55.600,2:43:01.479
2012 thing and yeah anyway

2:42:58.510,2:43:03.700
I'm certain it's not true but according

2:43:01.479,2:43:05.890
to somebody they said that that was the

2:43:03.700,2:43:07.540
thing I didn't fact check it I just

2:43:05.890,2:43:09.700
wanted to mention it because I found it

2:43:07.540,2:43:10.600
to be hilarious well that's a cheery

2:43:09.700,2:43:15.720
note to end on

2:43:10.600,2:43:18.160
hey guys this might be our last episode

2:43:15.720,2:43:23.140
and not just last this might be our last

2:43:18.160,2:43:23.920
everything love you guys thanks for

2:43:23.140,2:43:26.080
tuning in

2:43:23.920,2:43:27.100
we'll see you on Tuesday which is

2:43:26.080,2:43:29.260
definitely happening because Matt's

2:43:27.100,2:43:30.970
thing is not true and then we'll see you

2:43:29.260,2:43:33.220
on Wednesday for another episode of my

2:43:30.970,2:43:36.990
fellow Americans and where we're going

2:43:33.220,2:43:36.990
we don't need roads

2:43:53.960,2:43:57.410
hello can you hear me

2:44:20.330,2:44:23.330
like

2:45:02.260,2:45:06.820
Thank You Juan Ramirez followed by

2:45:13.400,2:45:15.460
you

2:45:15.931,2:45:21.760
you about the luge

2:45:18.160,2:45:24.190
John you about to lose your job get

2:45:21.760,2:45:28.470
these things you were gonna lose your

2:45:24.190,2:45:28.470
job cause you are detaining me

2:46:29.521,2:46:33.181
so I got no

2:46:42.300,2:46:44.359
you


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