The Wrighter’s Block Episode 40 – Kim Ruff Gets Wrighter’s Block

The Wrighter's Block


About This Episode


Libertarian Presidential hopeful, Kim Ruff, joins Matt to discuss her campaign for President, the platform she is running on, and whether or not nuclear weapons should be able to be owned legally.

Check out Kim’s campaign site.

facebook.com/muddiedwatersmedia


Episode Transcript

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I’ll try to use your body as a life raft

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for one there must be

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hiding-places broadcast of the evening

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news hour

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don’t bother swimming had to save me I’m

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alone

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don’t drop a sweater to save me I will

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only drag myself it’s a standard fooling

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Sagar

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to convince all that world I don’t need

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anybody’s

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all right put down your pens put down

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your pencils step away from the keyboard

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and settle in for this week’s episode of

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the writer’s block

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first and foremost allow me to thank Don

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and Sally Wright for giving birth to me

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I know I disappoint you on a daily basis

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but without you none of this would be

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possible

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also let me thank the narcissist

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cookbook for allowing me to use his

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music at the beginning in the end of

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every episode of the writer’s block I

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said I realized shortly before this show

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started that this is my actually this is

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my one year anniversary of doing the

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writer’s block so to everybody out there

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who has continued to follow Alyssa and

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Cher and all of that great stuff thank

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you because without you I would probably

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still do this but you know you actually

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give me some sense give me some sense of

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hope for the future today I’m very happy

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to bring on my guest she is a graduate

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from the very very prestigious Arizona

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State University she is currently

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running for the libertarian nomination

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for president ladies and gentlemen the

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fantastic and wonderful miss mrs. miss

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miss miss misses one of those camera

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really just glowing you make me sound

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like a god you know we’re all God like

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God is on all of us I think that was

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something I learned a long time ago when

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I still read the Bible you know we’re

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all made in His image

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thank you so much for taking the time to

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come on my show I do appreciate it well

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thank you for having me it’s my pleasure

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no absolutely so you went to the very

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prestigious Arizona State University and

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did you did you grow up in Arizona yes

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Harvard was my safety Arizonian I was

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born and raised in Feeney

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and I had actually wanted to go to the

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University of Oregon in Eugene okay but

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my folks wanted me to be close to home

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so I went to Arizona State University

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and I earned my baccalaureate says you

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pointed out in communication political

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science yes before that I went to

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Scottsdale Community College and I got

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my associates and applied science and

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motion picture television with the

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overarching goal of being a film critic

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Wow I at one point had the overarching

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goal of being a film writer and I

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yeah people hate watching movies with me

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people hate watching movies with me

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they’re like I’m like this like this is

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like my controversial thing that I say

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all the time

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Titanic is like the worst movie ever

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made that movies terrible I know I know

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it’s like right up there with the

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notebook on being the most manipulative

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movie ever write the notebook okay I’ll

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give it to you it wasn’t supposed to be

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a great movie it was just supposed to be

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a cheesy Nicholas Sparks movie like it

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wasn’t supposed to be good Titanic

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everyone oh it’s the greatest movie ever

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made Leonardo DiCaprio Kate Winslet no

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that movie is awful it’s so bad and so

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stupid so much I totally understand that

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came out when I was in high school and

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so I gone and seen it in the theater and

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then I went home and being a typical

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high school girl I sobbed for the love

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of Jack and Rose I know as I got older

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and more jaded I was like that is the

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most emotionally manipulative movie ever

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and what could she make room on that

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door right hey you know what guy that

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I’ve been with forever that everybody

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seems to hate but I don’t really know

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why cuz I never figured out why Billy

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Zane was a bad guy in that movie he’s

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pissed off that his girlfriend slash

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fiance was cheating on him with this

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broke dude Oh fair enough

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right yeah yeah I’ve been with you for

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years or whatever it’s been you met this

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guy a week ago and this is the guy

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that’s gonna be your love forever all

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right sure and then you’re just gonna

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drop 98 million dollars down at the

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bottom of the ocean at the end I’m glad

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she passed away

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stupid harder the ocean diamond god I

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hate that movie and what makes it worse

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is it beat out such great movies for

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Best Picture it beat out as good as it

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gets and Good Will Hunting

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and both of those deserved it so much

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more than Titanic is amazing reference

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it to this day because it just had such

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great dialogue and scenes in it it was

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such a good movie such a good movie like

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there’s not it’s less and less now but

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there used to be a time where any time I

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would say how about them apples

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everybody knew what I was talking about

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right nowadays not so much is everybody

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got to know Elliott Smith after that

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like the whole soundtrack was done by

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him alright guy that mattes man

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yeah he’s the saddest man that ever

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lived somehow commits suicide by

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stabbing himself twice in the chest Rock

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yeah Elliott Smith people are like you

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don’t seem like somebody who’s like

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depressed all the time I like I got a

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good cover don’t I but yeah love me some

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Elliott Smith got miss misery was such a

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great song so I know you like earlier

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you and I were talking and I you thought

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it was funny because I kind of got to

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the Libertarian Party in the backwards

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way where I had already done all of the

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drugs and everything and then I became a

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libertarian after I stopped so how is it

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that you got into being a libertarian

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was it I heard there were free drugs

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yeah no the way that I came into the

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libertarian party was I

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my folks are they would classify

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themselves as Reagan Republicans and

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Arizona not so much in Phoenix anymore

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because we’ve had such an influx of

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liberalism from California but we have

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historically been very much a pull

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yourself up by the bootstraps type of

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state which is really an outlying

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Arizona and Goldwater was a

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representative in the Senate for a very

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very very long time right so we sort of

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already come from that you know

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personal responsibility self ownership

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mentality here so I was primed to lean

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more toward the GOP because I only

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thought there were two parties and I was

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that for quite some time but then during

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Bush during his tenure I was so

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disgusted by the fact that they gave up

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on the Powell doctrine talking about how

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we need to only be defensive when it

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comes to attacks not offensive when it

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comes to our military I was so

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frustrated by how that whole thing

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played out in the advent of 9/11 and the

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fact that we used it as justification to

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go into Iraq and you know eating right

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now are still in Afghanistan and that

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makes it the longest war even longer

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still than Vietnam so I defected from

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that neoconservative shift and I was

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complaining about the fact that the

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Republican Party is more fixated on

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aggressing against other nations in

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global domination as well as putting

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their mores and morals on the rest of

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society and the other aspect of kind of

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my transition wasn’t just getting

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frustrated with the ongoing conflict but

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I worked for for a decade a LGBT

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magazine I was a film writer who wrote

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under a nom de plume

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so character maybe someday I’ll tell you

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who he was he’s interesting anyway in

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the community and knowing people in the

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community getting to know them being

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friends with them and recognizing I just

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didn’t understand why you would put okay

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you’re not gay you’re not into it that’s

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fine but why would you tell other people

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how to live their lives so those twin

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things kind of shifted me and then a

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buddy of mine said have you looked at

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the libertarian party I said no what’s

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that so I looked up their platform

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online and I read it east by piece and

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I’m like holy crap these are my people

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like everything I ever already thought

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is perfectly articulated so and that’s

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when I switched right yeah so I kind of

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went when I first started learning more

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about the Libertarian Party I learned

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about it in the way that many of us do

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where I took an online political quiz

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and they said I was a libertarian and I

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was talking with my dad who is a regular

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Republican now a trump Republican

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you know he’s let’s blow them all up

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kind of guy love him to death

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great guy but he was he was sitting

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behind me because we both worked at the

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same office and I was just like huh I

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just took this political quiz he goes

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what are you and I says it says I’m a

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libertarian yeah that makes sense

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and I said why you good it’s a

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Republican that smokes weed okay and so

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I was like well I want to learn more

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about Republicans that smoke weed and so

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I started looking more people I like

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these guys

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whatever we can get that arrest off my

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record and we should totally do that

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and so I started looking more into it

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and I at this point I already started

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kind of like shifting away from the

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Christian conservative that I had been

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and if you want to be gay I don’t care

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until you do your thing like hey I don’t

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do it in my bedroom please

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like a single bad yeah I sleep in a twin

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they just like yeah go ahead and do that

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and then I started getting more involved

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and I started being more like you know

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why should we be illegal if alcohols not

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and then that turned into why should

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cocaine be illegal if alcohols not and

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then I should heroin or meth or anything

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else and then as the Iraq and

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Afghanistan wars continue going on I I

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got more and more on the we shouldn’t be

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there we shouldn’t we went over there

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for no reason at the beginning and now

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we don’t have any exit strategy and it’s

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just costing us lives and 20 22 veterans

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a day are committing suicide and you’re

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more worried about what’s going on over

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there instead of trying to help them

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here and you’re not doing anything about

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it so as all of this was going on I just

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continued shifting further and further

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away until one day I was just arguing

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arguing with my dad against going to war

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against some nation that we hadn’t

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started a war with yet and I was like

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what happened when did this go on oh I

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guess I’m officially a libertarian now

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not quite a libertarian until you start

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arguing with other

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that’s true that that only took like six

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more weeks after that and then like six

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months later I became an anarchist or

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something I don’t know really a

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libertarian now so when did you decide

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that you were gonna take the big leap

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and go for the most powerful office in

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the land yes if it’s a spy yeah right so

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kind of started as one of those things

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where from time to time it’s activists

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will quit online about like if I were

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president I would do XYZ right and I was

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talking to John my running me on social

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media and we had a couple people say if

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you ran for president I would work my

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ass off for you and so he and I were

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like whatever and we talked about it and

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I’m like you know this isn’t a bad idea

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actually

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because in 2016 as somebody who’s worked

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in intra-party politics and been on the

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ground and dealt with all that

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behind-the-scenes stuff I we just sort

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of wait for somebody else to come in and

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step up to that role whether it’s you

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know a former Republican or someone

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within our party or maybe someone who’s

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tangentially associated to you we’re

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always waiting for this person who’s got

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name recognition and sizable warchest

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and a bunch of people already like crime

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to go march to the Capitol with them

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which of course none of that exists

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right and they do a poor job

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representing us they misrepresent what

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we believe we end up spending an

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extraordinary amount of time saying we

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wait wait no that’s not true that’s not

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what it means to be a libertarian so we

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we house the best way to explain this I

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feel I felt like in 2016 the welds in

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particular Johnson to a lesser extent

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ended up losing a moment that could have

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been incredible for us because we had to

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truly despicable people who were the

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frontrunners of both the parties and

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this was a sea change they weren’t going

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up against incumbent this was something

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fresh that was a ample opportunity for

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them to

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strike while the iron was hot and say no

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we’re anti-war we’re pro body autonomy

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we believe in these things we want

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criminal justice reform we want to

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pardon nonviolent you know victimless

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criminals this is what we stand for and

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they didn’t they squandered the moment a

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little bit of press they had they spent

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either making embarrassing gaffes which

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to be fair Johnson it was 5:00 in the

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morning and it was gotcha moment for the

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media right so what is the Leppa moment

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going for Clinton because it would much

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rather see Clinton and Trump in office

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yeah all of our down ballot candidates

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all of our activists instead of building

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on that groundwork they ended up having

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to reinvent the wheel yet again when you

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know as a libertarian we have to start

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way earlier work that much harder and do

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most of it by ourselves right and to

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lose that moment to lose the momentum

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it’s it’s an extraordinary setback and I

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didn’t want to wait anymore I said I’ll

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do it myself

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and I was hoping maybe other people

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would be like yeah beats me and I think

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it’s me okay

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so I’ve worked I worked on a couple of

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libertarian campaigns here in Florida I

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worked on the Attorney General campaign

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where bill will suffer ran and you know

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I was out there I was getting the

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signatures I would we were doing it we

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were doing it all and we did it on a

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shoestring budget we pulled in just over

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5% of the vote which was great and I

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also yeah and then I also worked on the

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Lucas over be for Congress campaign here

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and when he ran in the special election

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he didn’t get that much of the vote but

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it was that was the david jolly verse

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Alex Sink

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and verse over B and there were so much

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money being thrown into it are $26,000

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or whatever it was that we had wasn’t

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gonna be able to do anything but then in

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the re-election that was that following

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that the special was in March I think

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and then the re-election was in November

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so Lucas just kept campaigning and it

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was just jolly verse him and he ended up

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getting 26% of the I believe that’s

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really good yeah it was it was it was a

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good time during that period and then

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2016 rolled around Johnson and weld and

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I left the party shortly after that yeah

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yeah it’s tough

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where’s I I was talking to somebody just

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the other day about this I had somebody

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call me and he had joined about two

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years ago and now he’s getting to that

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point that we all kind of get to as

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activists where after having you know we

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come in really excited like I I just

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discovered you you’re my tribe come on

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tribe let’s work together and you know

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crush the state and I don’t care who

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says it or does it or who gets credit

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I’ll throw money I’ll throw energy into

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it I’ll make it happen I’ll build up the

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infrastructure and then you have of

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course all the old guard or just

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naysayers who are happy to complain from

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their comfortable seat going you know

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that’s not good enough or you’re just

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trying to take power and it just

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destroys it and so you get to that point

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where you’re like why am I doing this

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I’m not getting paid I’m not you know

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nothing’s like I’m just doing this

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because it’s important and I care and

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all I get is a sales or doing this so

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they head up point of discouragement and

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my advice to him and to everybody else

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is and go around them like stop waiting

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for permission stop trying to work with

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certain actors or individuals or

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agencies go around them you care about

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it find your niche and do that like the

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fact that you have your podcast is a

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really good example you settled into

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something that was way more authentic

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and honest and you don’t have to ask for

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permission to do it that’s right that’s

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why it does the everybody’s like

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worrying you gonna run for office so I

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said never and they asked why I said cuz

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on my podcast I can say whatever I want

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and if I’m wrong I just go oops I was

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wrong

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if I run for office and I do something

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and it’s wrong that’s a whole different

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game oh yeah especially as a libertarian

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just because you have to be you have to

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keep it correct all the time yeah cuz

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think though maybe 30 seconds of media

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they’ll give you yeah you don’t want to

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be the person who’d be like taxations

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bad like you really want to give good

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strong soundbite so right you don’t ever

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want to have that Gary Johnson moment

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where you

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literally biting his tongue on the air

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and he’s there and you don’t want that

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and you only get such a small amount of

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time so being able to do this and giving

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other people who play a way to learn

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about politics and a non-threatening and

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because I like to think that this is a

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non-threatening environment I’m not

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really sure how other people view it but

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in a non-threatening environment where

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they can learn about it and see what

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being a libertarian being an anarchist

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being an anarcho-capitalist whatever

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whatever that is whatever they define me

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as because I don’t really define myself

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as any of it

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spike Cohen I kind of want to do that

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but whatever they wanted to find it as

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they can learn about it and see that we

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aren’t like just out there off the wall

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crazy hoping for Mad Max type moments

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although right I’m not totally against a

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Mad Max Thunderdome kind of actually be

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okay with you know Oh welcome to the

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Thunderdome kind of election for

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president I think that’d just be fun it

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would be pretty honest or what rot out I

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mean God 2016 it was you know in um not

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Alice in Wonderland now I’m having a

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brain fart it was a movie that won the

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Best Picture in 1939 um first movie that

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went into Technicolor thank you you

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think that horrible when you have step

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of the tongue and you can’t remember

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something like Wizard of Oz yeah I mean

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I go through that pretty often on this

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show you know that that thing in Spike

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Lee evidence and I’m like yeah that you

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know that song with the guitar riff that

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one right with the really famous guitar

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riff right mm-hmm

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I’m just gonna nod with you here not

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classical got it yeah and The Wizard of

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Oz when they’re like this is actually

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the wizard who’s you know it’s not this

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big scary thing with all the smoke it’s

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actually the guy behind the curtain

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right 2016 I didn’t even like didn’t

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even put up a curtain no like oh no

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we’re all terrible

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like at least Thunderdome would be

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authentic like everybody gets a stick

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whoever wins survives get to be king for

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a day before the peasants tear you apart

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if they if they had done Thunderdome in

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2016 Hillary Clinton woulda shot Trump

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in the back of the head walked out and

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said he committed suicide what did he

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know what a drum no apparently not to

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turn his back on you so I was going to

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let’s talk a little bit about your

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platform because I’m not gonna lie like

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I love your platform it’s great yeah it

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is good I edited it too so and there

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wasn’t any mistakes oh good for you

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I love going to and I do this a lot

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especially with a libertarian sites I’ll

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go to their websites and take a look at

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their platform and I’ll read it and I

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like to count the number of typos and I

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didn’t find one on yours so

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congratulations you’re like the first

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yeah usually I find so many it makes me

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laugh do you remember do you remember

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Derrick Michael Reed’s website yes 2016

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I do wasn’t Bob the Builder on it as

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well so yeah no congratulations on me

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not finding a typo I was very happy

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about that that made me genuinely like

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like you even more as a candidate yeah

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so foreign policy your foreign policy is

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very libertarian I mean basically let’s

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not bomb other people and I I do like

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that but so one of the things I is a

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question that is asked to me often as

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somebody who doesn’t believe in

517
00:24:24,169 –> 00:24:28,880
intervention is there an instance like

518
00:24:27,590 –> 00:24:31,820
since you

519
00:24:28,880 –> 00:24:34,490
would be Madam President is there an

520
00:24:31,820 –> 00:24:36,230
instance in which you would find it

521
00:24:34,490 –> 00:24:40,210
acceptable to utilize the military

522
00:24:36,230 –> 00:24:42,410
against a foreign nation or organization

523
00:24:40,210 –> 00:24:45,410
only in self-defense only in

524
00:24:42,410 –> 00:24:46,760
self-defense so right and that doesn’t

525
00:24:45,410 –> 00:24:49,040
and that actually doesn’t even include

526
00:24:46,760 –> 00:24:51,380
like because of my foreign policy

527
00:24:49,040 –> 00:24:53,990
beliefs and the fact that I am a non

528
00:24:51,380 –> 00:24:56,480
interventionist and an anarchist that

529
00:24:53,990 –> 00:24:59,390
doesn’t mean you know you were in an

530
00:24:56,480 –> 00:25:00,260
area of the world that I consider of my

531
00:24:59,390 –> 00:25:03,290
interest

532
00:25:00,260 –> 00:25:05,900
that’s not attacking my interest I’m

533
00:25:03,290 –> 00:25:09,620
talking about physically coming into our

534
00:25:05,900 –> 00:25:12,680
nation attacking our people attacking

535
00:25:09,620 –> 00:25:15,170
our property but even to that end I

536
00:25:12,680 –> 00:25:18,320
would say it’s up to the individuals who

537
00:25:15,170 –> 00:25:21,650
were harmed not necessarily for me to

538
00:25:18,320 –> 00:25:23,420
say as president okay guys all of you

539
00:25:21,650 –> 00:25:26,360
are gonna get involved in this conflict

540
00:25:23,420 –> 00:25:28,190
because some things went down in the

541
00:25:26,360 –> 00:25:30,410
ass-end of California if that makes

542
00:25:28,190 –> 00:25:32,300
sense like I really feel that it’s up to

543
00:25:30,410 –> 00:25:34,160
everyone has a right to self-defense and

544
00:25:32,300 –> 00:25:36,650
to some extent you can make the argument

545
00:25:34,160 –> 00:25:38,660
that by extension maybe the country

546
00:25:36,650 –> 00:25:42,800
could also engage in it but that would

547
00:25:38,660 –> 00:25:44,300
require coercion and force so I would

548
00:25:42,800 –> 00:25:46,970
rather say that those who are directly

549
00:25:44,300 –> 00:25:48,920
victimized have that decision to me and

550
00:25:46,970 –> 00:25:50,600
then if other people want to assist by

551
00:25:48,920 –> 00:25:56,470
proxy they have to do so voluntarily

552
00:25:50,600 –> 00:25:59,210
right so let’s just let’s say if another

553
00:25:56,470 –> 00:26:04,030
9/11 event types sort of thing happened

554
00:25:59,210 –> 00:26:06,050
what would what would you recommend I

555
00:26:04,030 –> 00:26:09,350
love that I’d actually thought about

556
00:26:06,050 –> 00:26:20,360
that a lot of Mike what I do finish the

557
00:26:09,350 –> 00:26:22,610
kids story I think in the immediate

558
00:26:20,360 –> 00:26:23,930
after effect you know because you have

559
00:26:22,610 –> 00:26:27,530
to bear in mind that at the time that

560
00:26:23,930 –> 00:26:31,010
all this stuff happened presuming that

561
00:26:27,530 –> 00:26:33,980
the official narrative holds true there

562
00:26:31,010 –> 00:26:35,900
was no awareness whatsoever of what

563
00:26:33,980 –> 00:26:37,880
exactly was going on so just as we

564
00:26:35,900 –> 00:26:40,520
catching little bits and pieces on our

565
00:26:37,880 –> 00:26:42,520
TV or the radio we’re trying to put this

566
00:26:40,520 –> 00:26:44,770
disparate pieces of evidence together

567
00:26:42,520 –> 00:26:47,080
and understand what was happening so to

568
00:26:44,770 –> 00:26:50,470
presumably were the people in White

569
00:26:47,080 –> 00:26:52,510
House administration so assuming that to

570
00:26:50,470 –> 00:26:54,670
be the case saying that we are all

571
00:26:52,510 –> 00:26:57,250
caught unawares I think the first thing

572
00:26:54,670 –> 00:26:58,750
would be doing an assessment of red

573
00:26:57,250 –> 00:27:01,000
obviously you want to have complete

574
00:26:58,750 –> 00:27:03,460
situational awareness like what what is

575
00:27:01,000 –> 00:27:06,790
happening why is it happening what other

576
00:27:03,460 –> 00:27:08,740
possible threats exist how do we stop

577
00:27:06,790 –> 00:27:10,870
them and the most immediate thing would

578
00:27:08,740 –> 00:27:12,340
obviously be grounding airplane travel

579
00:27:10,870 –> 00:27:14,050
you would have to do that in the

580
00:27:12,340 –> 00:27:16,870
immediate after effect until you had a

581
00:27:14,050 –> 00:27:18,010
good handle on what the situation is as

582
00:27:16,870 –> 00:27:19,720
much as I would like to be able to say

583
00:27:18,010 –> 00:27:21,220
like you can freely travel like you’d

584
00:27:19,720 –> 00:27:23,320
have to put the kibosh on it for at

585
00:27:21,220 –> 00:27:24,460
least a certain period of time until you

586
00:27:23,320 –> 00:27:26,260
understood what you were dealing with

587
00:27:24,460 –> 00:27:27,940
right and then once you ascertained

588
00:27:26,260 –> 00:27:30,160
who’s who and where they’re at and what

589
00:27:27,940 –> 00:27:31,660
these actors and agents are doing then

590
00:27:30,160 –> 00:27:33,010
you have to figure out well obviously

591
00:27:31,660 –> 00:27:35,290
the same thing you do in criminal

592
00:27:33,010 –> 00:27:37,870
justice presumably which is understand

593
00:27:35,290 –> 00:27:41,110
what their motivation was why were they

594
00:27:37,870 –> 00:27:44,710
doing this and there was we found out

595
00:27:41,110 –> 00:27:46,930
relatively quick relatively quickly who

596
00:27:44,710 –> 00:27:49,600
the actors and agents involved were and

597
00:27:46,930 –> 00:27:51,880
the impetus behind it and all of that is

598
00:27:49,600 –> 00:27:53,920
blowback from our foreign policy

599
00:27:51,880 –> 00:27:56,290
approach all of that comes from the fact

600
00:27:53,920 –> 00:27:58,150
that we have for decades because of the

601
00:27:56,290 –> 00:28:01,360
threat of the Soviet Union and we wanted

602
00:27:58,150 –> 00:28:03,280
to stop them from spreading communism we

603
00:28:01,360 –> 00:28:05,920
trifled in the Middle East we trifled in

604
00:28:03,280 –> 00:28:07,420
Southeast Asia we were in other nations

605
00:28:05,920 –> 00:28:09,070
you know Eastern Europe is a good

606
00:28:07,420 –> 00:28:11,200
example as well we have been throughout

607
00:28:09,070 –> 00:28:13,420
those trying to effectively keep the

608
00:28:11,200 –> 00:28:17,140
Soviet Union and communism contained and

609
00:28:13,420 –> 00:28:19,900
in so doing we have created a lot of bad

610
00:28:17,140 –> 00:28:22,270
blood on an international level because

611
00:28:19,900 –> 00:28:23,830
nobody likes to have their land occupied

612
00:28:22,270 –> 00:28:25,870
nobody likes to be told how to live

613
00:28:23,830 –> 00:28:28,180
their life nobody wants to have their

614
00:28:25,870 –> 00:28:31,030
rights curtailed but you’re clearly not

615
00:28:28,180 –> 00:28:32,980
by a foreign government so knowing that

616
00:28:31,030 –> 00:28:34,990
then I think I would have said in the

617
00:28:32,980 –> 00:28:36,220
immediate aftermath after we understood

618
00:28:34,990 –> 00:28:39,490
and realized that there was no

619
00:28:36,220 –> 00:28:41,830
additional risk coming that we would

620
00:28:39,490 –> 00:28:46,630
cease our foreign policy approach will

621
00:28:41,830 –> 00:28:48,580
stop as opposed to double down and do

622
00:28:46,630 –> 00:28:51,130
everything that we’ve been doing

623
00:28:48,580 –> 00:28:54,310
previously that’s the most illogical

624
00:28:51,130 –> 00:28:56,260
thing with this if all they’re asking is

625
00:28:54,310 –> 00:28:58,180
for us to stop aggressing

626
00:28:56,260 –> 00:29:01,210
against other nations stop meddling in

627
00:28:58,180 –> 00:29:06,580
their affairs as all we have to do to be

628
00:29:01,210 –> 00:29:09,940
left alone then stop doing it it’s just

629
00:29:06,580 –> 00:29:10,990
absurd right and I would agree I

630
00:29:09,940 –> 00:29:14,710
definitely agree with that

631
00:29:10,990 –> 00:29:18,430
I mean back in back in 2001 I was still

632
00:29:14,710 –> 00:29:19,900
very conservative so I was like they

633
00:29:18,430 –> 00:29:22,690
attacked us they didn’t have any reason

634
00:29:19,900 –> 00:29:25,270
to attack us and it wasn’t until I

635
00:29:22,690 –> 00:29:26,580
looked into more things going well yeah

636
00:29:25,270 –> 00:29:30,970
we’ve been doing that to them for

637
00:29:26,580 –> 00:29:33,430
decades at this point so that you know

638
00:29:30,970 –> 00:29:35,080
Ron Ron Paul had a lot to do with me

639
00:29:33,430 –> 00:29:37,450
kind of learning about that and learning

640
00:29:35,080 –> 00:29:39,640
about blowback and that was when I first

641
00:29:37,450 –> 00:29:43,270
started seeing and trying to argue that

642
00:29:39,640 –> 00:29:45,430
with neo-cons it’s just impossible it’s

643
00:29:43,270 –> 00:29:48,460
no no what we’re doing is the Lord’s

644
00:29:45,430 –> 00:29:52,060
work and what they’re doing is that

645
00:29:48,460 –> 00:29:59,950
other guys work that other day that’s

646
00:29:52,060 –> 00:30:02,020
probably the same person I’m not getting

647
00:29:59,950 –> 00:30:03,610
into I tried doing theology hour on the

648
00:30:02,020 –> 00:30:10,180
last show and it didn’t go well for me

649
00:30:03,610 –> 00:30:14,560
so I also know that you are not a fan

650
00:30:10,180 –> 00:30:17,110
neither amount of financially assisting

651
00:30:14,560 –> 00:30:23,290
other nations yeah is there any instance

652
00:30:17,110 –> 00:30:26,470
in which you would be okay with no no I

653
00:30:23,290 –> 00:30:28,420
really well because when you think about

654
00:30:26,470 –> 00:30:30,460
when we typically talk about financial

655
00:30:28,420 –> 00:30:31,990
aid and when we try to sell it to the

656
00:30:30,460 –> 00:30:34,060
American public the powers that be

657
00:30:31,990 –> 00:30:37,210
usually couch it in terms of this

658
00:30:34,060 –> 00:30:39,550
country is you know destitute and these

659
00:30:37,210 –> 00:30:41,920
people are starving and so we’re going

660
00:30:39,550 –> 00:30:43,780
to collectively take your resources and

661
00:30:41,920 –> 00:30:45,610
send them over there but in countries

662
00:30:43,780 –> 00:30:48,070
that are war-torn or where there’s that

663
00:30:45,610 –> 00:30:50,410
level of disparity economically when

664
00:30:48,070 –> 00:30:52,300
there are folks that are so segregated

665
00:30:50,410 –> 00:30:55,750
from those that are empower and those

666
00:30:52,300 –> 00:30:57,640
that are living on the ground it usually

667
00:30:55,750 –> 00:31:00,670
is because they have such a stranglehold

668
00:30:57,640 –> 00:31:04,210
on resources so any financial aid we

669
00:31:00,670 –> 00:31:06,970
give any material aid we give typically

670
00:31:04,210 –> 00:31:08,650
only goes to those that are already in

671
00:31:06,970 –> 00:31:10,160
power and have a stranglehold on it

672
00:31:08,650 –> 00:31:12,110
doesn’t go to the people that work

673
00:31:10,160 –> 00:31:13,790
trying to assist we’ve had plenty of

674
00:31:12,110 –> 00:31:16,820
instances where we’ve sent medical

675
00:31:13,790 –> 00:31:18,680
supplies or food or clothing or any

676
00:31:16,820 –> 00:31:20,570
other sort of aid to other countries and

677
00:31:18,680 –> 00:31:22,880
it never makes it to the people we’re

678
00:31:20,570 –> 00:31:24,830
trying to help if you truly want to

679
00:31:22,880 –> 00:31:26,450
assist people in a foreign country then

680
00:31:24,830 –> 00:31:29,060
it would behoove you to research

681
00:31:26,450 –> 00:31:30,980
charities that actually have a really

682
00:31:29,060 –> 00:31:33,890
good rate of return on donations to

683
00:31:30,980 –> 00:31:35,660
contributions and are involved in those

684
00:31:33,890 –> 00:31:37,400
countries because there are people all

685
00:31:35,660 –> 00:31:40,130
over the world who have charitable

686
00:31:37,400 –> 00:31:42,080
groups that do assist people directly

687
00:31:40,130 –> 00:31:44,060
rather than going government to

688
00:31:42,080 –> 00:31:46,400
government there’s always going to be I

689
00:31:44,060 –> 00:31:48,380
mean at the very best example there’s

690
00:31:46,400 –> 00:31:50,300
going to be a loss you know you’re

691
00:31:48,380 –> 00:31:51,560
getting you know 70 cents on the dollar

692
00:31:50,300 –> 00:31:53,330
because you’re paying for some

693
00:31:51,560 –> 00:31:55,370
bureaucrat to redistribute it and then

694
00:31:53,330 –> 00:31:58,190
the people are maybe getting 30 cents on

695
00:31:55,370 –> 00:31:59,780
that 70 cents right so it’s just cut out

696
00:31:58,190 –> 00:32:01,550
the middleman go straight to a charity

697
00:31:59,780 –> 00:32:02,990
and allowed them to do it it’s much more

698
00:32:01,550 –> 00:32:04,580
directed and it’ll go to the people that

699
00:32:02,990 –> 00:32:06,950
you want to assist yeah I’ve got a

700
00:32:04,580 –> 00:32:12,020
friend who has recently been getting

701
00:32:06,950 –> 00:32:13,130
into the foreign the the foreign flavor

702
00:32:12,020 –> 00:32:15,080
of the week I guess would be the best

703
00:32:13,130 –> 00:32:17,360
way to put it we need to help this

704
00:32:15,080 –> 00:32:18,740
country and she said what should we do

705
00:32:17,360 –> 00:32:20,780
and I said well you find a charity

706
00:32:18,740 –> 00:32:22,970
that’s helping that country and you

707
00:32:20,780 –> 00:32:25,310
donate your time and/or money to that

708
00:32:22,970 –> 00:32:26,600
charity and she goes oh well I can’t do

709
00:32:25,310 –> 00:32:29,090
that but what should like we should do

710
00:32:26,600 –> 00:32:31,270
as a countries exactly what I just said

711
00:32:29,090 –> 00:32:36,140
like as a country we should not be

712
00:32:31,270 –> 00:32:37,940
shipping money or troops or anything

713
00:32:36,140 –> 00:32:40,190
else over there we should be helping

714
00:32:37,940 –> 00:32:41,480
them out voluntarily because there’s

715
00:32:40,190 –> 00:32:43,280
gonna be people that don’t want to do

716
00:32:41,480 –> 00:32:46,310
this and we should not be forcing them

717
00:32:43,280 –> 00:32:48,380
to write I agree I think a lot of this

718
00:32:46,310 –> 00:32:50,270
this sort of mentality where we look at

719
00:32:48,380 –> 00:32:52,790
government as is here for all of our

720
00:32:50,270 –> 00:32:55,730
existential crises comes a lot from the

721
00:32:52,790 –> 00:32:57,470
erosion of community cuz we’ve gotten so

722
00:32:55,730 –> 00:32:59,420
divorced from it and it is sort of a

723
00:32:57,470 –> 00:33:01,280
systemic attack by the state on

724
00:32:59,420 –> 00:33:02,900
community whether it’s going against the

725
00:33:01,280 –> 00:33:04,820
church or whether it’s going against the

726
00:33:02,900 –> 00:33:06,410
family or whatever other sort of units

727
00:33:04,820 –> 00:33:08,690
that erosion of community and

728
00:33:06,410 –> 00:33:10,760
neighborhoods has lent itself where we

729
00:33:08,690 –> 00:33:12,500
stopped thinking about well let me just

730
00:33:10,760 –> 00:33:14,030
go next door and talk to this person and

731
00:33:12,500 –> 00:33:16,070
work with them to do something healthy

732
00:33:14,030 –> 00:33:17,360
and instead well I’m gonna vote for a

733
00:33:16,070 –> 00:33:20,060
representative who’s going to legislate

734
00:33:17,360 –> 00:33:22,540
this so that I can feel better about the

735
00:33:20,060 –> 00:33:23,810
things that bother me but it’s such a

736
00:33:22,540 –> 00:33:26,570
circuitous

737
00:33:23,810 –> 00:33:29,870
an ineffectual way at best of doing

738
00:33:26,570 –> 00:33:32,120
things and it’s of course aiding and

739
00:33:29,870 –> 00:33:33,770
abetting tyranny so the best thing you

740
00:33:32,120 –> 00:33:36,710
can do ever is just like you said if

741
00:33:33,770 –> 00:33:39,380
it’s truly important to you reach out to

742
00:33:36,710 –> 00:33:41,720
other people find charities and if there

743
00:33:39,380 –> 00:33:43,790
is none start one you have the

744
00:33:41,720 –> 00:33:45,350
capability or so don’t wait for

745
00:33:43,790 –> 00:33:46,780
permission and don’t use the government

746
00:33:45,350 –> 00:33:48,980
as a means of accomplishing those goals

747
00:33:46,780 –> 00:33:50,810
right and then she was like well I don’t

748
00:33:48,980 –> 00:33:52,190
really have the time I don’t really have

749
00:33:50,810 –> 00:33:54,710
the time to volunteer and I don’t make a

750
00:33:52,190 –> 00:33:56,930
lot of money and I said then it can’t be

751
00:33:54,710 –> 00:33:59,120
that important like that’s you have to

752
00:33:56,930 –> 00:34:00,710
worry about you because and I am like

753
00:33:59,120 –> 00:34:03,860
she’s young

754
00:34:00,710 –> 00:34:05,450
24 I think she’s young and I’m like I

755
00:34:03,860 –> 00:34:07,010
get it you’re going to school you’ve got

756
00:34:05,450 –> 00:34:08,990
a job you got to pay rent you got your

757
00:34:07,010 –> 00:34:11,600
bills I know that your time is very

758
00:34:08,990 –> 00:34:13,700
limited talk to other people about it

759
00:34:11,600 –> 00:34:15,590
see if they’re willing to do it try to

760
00:34:13,700 –> 00:34:17,060
spread the word that way but you can’t

761
00:34:15,590 –> 00:34:18,830
ask the government to do this because

762
00:34:17,060 –> 00:34:21,710
now you’re forcing other people who want

763
00:34:18,830 –> 00:34:24,560
nothing to do with it to have to do deal

764
00:34:21,710 –> 00:34:26,990
with it and hey spike Cohen said no

765
00:34:24,560 –> 00:34:30,290
dammit what should we be doing with not

766
00:34:26,990 –> 00:34:31,520
my money and that’s how so many people

767
00:34:30,290 –> 00:34:32,150
look at it they’re like well no that’s

768
00:34:31,520 –> 00:34:34,850
my money

769
00:34:32,150 –> 00:34:37,910
I need that to do these things and in

770
00:34:34,850 –> 00:34:40,160
which case that shows where that shows

771
00:34:37,910 –> 00:34:42,980
the order of importance in your

772
00:34:40,160 –> 00:34:44,750
priorities and that’s fine have your

773
00:34:42,980 –> 00:34:46,220
order of importance but if it’s

774
00:34:44,750 –> 00:34:47,680
something that’s important to you you

775
00:34:46,220 –> 00:34:50,930
need to make the time in order to work

776
00:34:47,680 –> 00:34:53,030
the addendum to it and I’m sure you’ve

777
00:34:50,930 –> 00:34:55,160
experienced this yourself as an activist

778
00:34:53,030 –> 00:34:58,340
in the party and in the larger Liberty

779
00:34:55,160 –> 00:34:59,840
movement is you know we when you start

780
00:34:58,340 –> 00:35:01,490
to become cognizant of the world around

781
00:34:59,840 –> 00:35:05,210
you in the sense that you are aware of

782
00:35:01,490 –> 00:35:06,830
how your how your actions or our actions

783
00:35:05,210 –> 00:35:08,810
of the nation impact people on an

784
00:35:06,830 –> 00:35:11,180
international scale and you recognize

785
00:35:08,810 –> 00:35:13,250
the wider ramifications of legislation

786
00:35:11,180 –> 00:35:15,620
and how it’s going to not just affect us

787
00:35:13,250 –> 00:35:18,680
in the media but in the long run there

788
00:35:15,620 –> 00:35:21,200
is sort of this desperation and feeling

789
00:35:18,680 –> 00:35:23,570
of utility like because you recognize

790
00:35:21,200 –> 00:35:26,360
how bad it is and how much of it needs

791
00:35:23,570 –> 00:35:28,010
to be changed positively so you’re like

792
00:35:26,360 –> 00:35:30,770
I don’t even know where to start you

793
00:35:28,010 –> 00:35:32,330
know where where do i I want to make it

794
00:35:30,770 –> 00:35:34,070
better but I don’t know where to start

795
00:35:32,330 –> 00:35:35,390
and so typically the best thing you need

796
00:35:34,070 –> 00:35:38,900
to do and that this is an

797
00:35:35,390 –> 00:35:41,630
I say to people is you need to focus

798
00:35:38,900 –> 00:35:44,569
here first I mean it’s like that oxygen

799
00:35:41,630 –> 00:35:47,180
mask metaphor you’re no good to anybody

800
00:35:44,569 –> 00:35:48,680
else unless you take care of yourself so

801
00:35:47,180 –> 00:35:50,690
take care of yourself first and then

802
00:35:48,680 –> 00:35:52,760
extend it out to your family your

803
00:35:50,690 –> 00:35:55,220
community your immediate neighborhood

804
00:35:52,760 –> 00:35:58,160
create these little pockets of good you

805
00:35:55,220 –> 00:36:00,559
can’t change everything but you can make

806
00:35:58,160 –> 00:36:03,260
something wonderful in your world and

807
00:36:00,559 –> 00:36:04,970
that will emanate out as you inspire and

808
00:36:03,260 –> 00:36:08,510
affect and influence positively other

809
00:36:04,970 –> 00:36:17,510
people but that sounds so very Marianne

810
00:36:08,510 –> 00:36:19,160
Williamson your dream okay making a

811
00:36:17,510 –> 00:36:21,950
dream board you get a nice little wish

812
00:36:19,160 –> 00:36:39,829
board dress it up however you want you

813
00:36:21,950 –> 00:36:40,789
put it out there and now she’s running

814
00:36:39,829 –> 00:36:43,970
for president

815
00:36:40,789 –> 00:36:47,210
did she say something like if they just

816
00:36:43,970 –> 00:36:49,430
had a giant golden egg and they all just

817
00:36:47,210 –> 00:36:52,009
felt their feelings around it I’m like

818
00:36:49,430 –> 00:36:55,069
what you know what would happen they

819
00:36:52,009 –> 00:36:57,980
kill each other for the gold yeah that

820
00:36:55,069 –> 00:36:59,930
would not work Marianne but please be in

821
00:36:57,980 –> 00:37:03,170
every debate I hope that she continues

822
00:36:59,930 –> 00:37:05,779
getting donations to be in every single

823
00:37:03,170 –> 00:37:08,150
debate because it is the most

824
00:37:05,779 –> 00:37:12,099
entertaining thing I’ve ever seen I know

825
00:37:08,150 –> 00:37:12,099
I’m like your chakras need to be real

826
00:37:12,730 –> 00:37:18,380
I’m upset that Florida is not a open

827
00:37:16,190 –> 00:37:23,539
primary state because I would vote for

828
00:37:18,380 –> 00:37:27,009
her just to keep really just to keep her

829
00:37:23,539 –> 00:37:33,829
going I would vote for her she’s like

830
00:37:27,009 –> 00:37:38,390
2020s Harambee nothing else counts go

831
00:37:33,829 –> 00:37:40,549
with Mary Ann Williams Shane Sweeney

832
00:37:38,390 –> 00:37:43,400
said his dream ballet is rough verse

833
00:37:40,549 –> 00:37:48,740
weld verse Williamson which I think he

834
00:37:43,400 –> 00:37:49,370
would win totally yeah III don’t even

835
00:37:48,740 –> 00:37:55,430
think that would be a

836
00:37:49,370 –> 00:37:56,660
contest everybody good now this is God

837
00:37:55,430 –> 00:38:00,490
it wouldn’t even matter what I said

838
00:37:56,660 –> 00:38:00,490
they’d be like you’re not a sadist

839
00:38:04,600 –> 00:38:08,180
earlier where you’re like thank you for

840
00:38:06,650 –> 00:38:18,080
giving me life I know i disappoint you

841
00:38:08,180 –> 00:38:19,550
daily so one of the big things that the

842
00:38:18,080 –> 00:38:24,140
Democrats have been talking about in

843
00:38:19,550 –> 00:38:26,420
this cycle has been immigration so I

844
00:38:24,140 –> 00:38:34,090
know that you are not a fan of the wall

845
00:38:26,420 –> 00:38:34,090
I mean I like these these are great

846
00:38:34,960 –> 00:38:40,030
which is funny because this is the only

847
00:38:36,920 –> 00:38:43,460
one that has it all the others are bare

848
00:38:40,030 –> 00:38:45,950
but so I know you’re not a fan of Donald

849
00:38:43,460 –> 00:38:48,170
Trump’s wall of the of that border wall

850
00:38:45,950 –> 00:38:52,940
what what would kind of be your

851
00:38:48,170 –> 00:38:54,440
immigration policy well mine you know

852
00:38:52,940 –> 00:38:57,340
it’s funny it’s such an interesting and

853
00:38:54,440 –> 00:38:59,750
complex issue in fact every single issue

854
00:38:57,340 –> 00:39:02,960
really has a bunch of different aspects

855
00:38:59,750 –> 00:39:05,510
that tie into it so forgive me for my

856
00:39:02,960 –> 00:39:06,800
long-winded answer but there’s so many

857
00:39:05,510 –> 00:39:08,360
different things you have to address

858
00:39:06,800 –> 00:39:11,750
when you talk to the public writ large

859
00:39:08,360 –> 00:39:13,520
which is the question of what do you do

860
00:39:11,750 –> 00:39:15,140
with welfare and we’re not just talking

861
00:39:13,520 –> 00:39:17,210
about things like whether or not you can

862
00:39:15,140 –> 00:39:19,040
get immediate government benefits like

863
00:39:17,210 –> 00:39:21,410
that you know are they gonna get an EBT

864
00:39:19,040 –> 00:39:23,000
card but we’re talking about access to

865
00:39:21,410 –> 00:39:25,370
public schools public school is an

866
00:39:23,000 –> 00:39:27,530
example welfare access to other shared

867
00:39:25,370 –> 00:39:29,780
resources such as being able to go to a

868
00:39:27,530 –> 00:39:31,730
hospital and having other people assume

869
00:39:29,780 –> 00:39:34,640
responsibility for paying for your visit

870
00:39:31,730 –> 00:39:37,490
using their insurance so there are

871
00:39:34,640 –> 00:39:39,020
different concerns with welfare for most

872
00:39:37,490 –> 00:39:40,730
American citizens and that’s one of the

873
00:39:39,020 –> 00:39:42,740
main arguments that they typically lob

874
00:39:40,730 –> 00:39:44,570
against you comes across then the

875
00:39:42,740 –> 00:39:46,610
secondary aspect are things like because

876
00:39:44,570 –> 00:39:49,130
I’m in a border state with Mexico and

877
00:39:46,610 –> 00:39:51,440
because there is a huge glut of cartels

878
00:39:49,130 –> 00:39:53,420
near the border there’s the assumption

879
00:39:51,440 –> 00:39:56,750
that typically the people who are going

880
00:39:53,420 –> 00:39:59,960
to immigrate here are criminals and drug

881
00:39:56,750 –> 00:40:02,540
users and carrying illegal firearms and

882
00:39:59,960 –> 00:40:03,670
they’re going to bring diseases like

883
00:40:02,540 –> 00:40:05,230
crazy diseases

884
00:40:03,670 –> 00:40:08,140
we haven’t seen since the 1400s

885
00:40:05,230 –> 00:40:14,589
apparently ones that we don’t have

886
00:40:08,140 –> 00:40:17,230
vaccinations for playing anymore

887
00:40:14,589 –> 00:40:18,819
so you have to touch all these issues

888
00:40:17,230 –> 00:40:21,579
and then of course discuss the issue a

889
00:40:18,819 –> 00:40:24,490
property right so here is my answer to

890
00:40:21,579 –> 00:40:27,640
that as libertarians we were against all

891
00:40:24,490 –> 00:40:29,230
forms of welfare not just benefits

892
00:40:27,640 –> 00:40:30,940
immediate government benefits or whether

893
00:40:29,230 –> 00:40:32,559
or not you can get WIC or EBT or

894
00:40:30,940 –> 00:40:35,290
anything else like that but we’re also

895
00:40:32,559 –> 00:40:36,309
talking about you know public education

896
00:40:35,290 –> 00:40:38,619
we’re against it we wanted to be

897
00:40:36,309 –> 00:40:41,530
privatized we want to have you know

898
00:40:38,619 –> 00:40:44,109
people pay exactly what things cost not

899
00:40:41,530 –> 00:40:46,359
be forced into paying other extra

900
00:40:44,109 –> 00:40:48,609
ordinary fees in order to support other

901
00:40:46,359 –> 00:40:50,290
people’s habits or lifestyles whatever

902
00:40:48,609 –> 00:40:51,910
we’re against welfare we don’t think

903
00:40:50,290 –> 00:40:54,730
that we should redistribute wealth area

904
00:40:51,910 –> 00:40:57,040
so there is that aspect to it the second

905
00:40:54,730 –> 00:40:59,020
aspect of it is as libertarians we are

906
00:40:57,040 –> 00:41:01,240
for the legalization of narcotics which

907
00:40:59,020 –> 00:41:02,890
would totally kill the cartels because

908
00:41:01,240 –> 00:41:05,650
there would no longer be a black market

909
00:41:02,890 –> 00:41:08,049
so if you want to eliminate that issue

910
00:41:05,650 –> 00:41:10,720
and the concern for crime then you need

911
00:41:08,049 –> 00:41:12,430
to end the war on drugs full stop the

912
00:41:10,720 –> 00:41:14,020
third thing is libertarians we support

913
00:41:12,430 –> 00:41:15,339
our Second Amendment rights we believe

914
00:41:14,020 –> 00:41:17,380
firmly in the right to self-defense

915
00:41:15,339 –> 00:41:19,690
which means that people should have at

916
00:41:17,380 –> 00:41:21,400
their access and disposal the ability to

917
00:41:19,690 –> 00:41:23,530
acquire whatever means they need to

918
00:41:21,400 –> 00:41:25,059
defend themselves including but not

919
00:41:23,530 –> 00:41:28,450
limited to firearms

920
00:41:25,059 –> 00:41:29,829
so this assault on firearms needs to end

921
00:41:28,450 –> 00:41:32,049
which would stop the issue of

922
00:41:29,829 –> 00:41:33,940
trafficking of firearms so I have to ask

923
00:41:32,049 –> 00:41:35,859
a question I haven’t listed for later

924
00:41:33,940 –> 00:41:38,260
but since you brought up firearms in the

925
00:41:35,859 –> 00:41:39,160
Second Amendment recreational nukes yes

926
00:41:38,260 –> 00:41:41,559
okay cool

927
00:41:39,160 –> 00:41:43,359
just that’s that was the question it was

928
00:41:41,559 –> 00:41:47,980
recreational plutonium but you know

929
00:41:43,359 –> 00:41:49,540
recreational nukes let’s I know that

930
00:41:47,980 –> 00:41:51,700
they were doing an Iranian mining up in

931
00:41:49,540 –> 00:41:53,680
the Grand Canyon area for a while but um

932
00:41:51,700 –> 00:41:55,180
I think Pluto Neum is much more rare I

933
00:41:53,680 –> 00:41:57,880
think they only had a sufficient amount

934
00:41:55,180 –> 00:41:59,559
to be able to either make fat man or

935
00:41:57,880 –> 00:42:01,240
little boy one of the two that were used

936
00:41:59,559 –> 00:42:03,339
during the bombing of Hiroshima and

937
00:42:01,240 –> 00:42:06,329
Nagasaki but the other one they have a

938
00:42:03,339 –> 00:42:09,180
little bit more of what was uranium okay

939
00:42:06,329 –> 00:42:11,559
rhenium 235 or something what my

940
00:42:09,180 –> 00:42:13,900
extensive knowledge on plutonium is it

941
00:42:11,559 –> 00:42:14,220
makes a DeLorean go 88 miles an hour and

942
00:42:13,900 –> 00:42:18,240
you try

943
00:42:14,220 –> 00:42:20,700
through time that’s that’s my extensive

944
00:42:18,240 –> 00:42:33,510
knowledge on plutonium then I am so for

945
00:42:20,700 –> 00:42:35,460
recreational for everybody I support

946
00:42:33,510 –> 00:42:40,410
your right to acquire recreational

947
00:42:35,460 –> 00:42:42,690
plutonium should you desire well yeah

948
00:42:40,410 –> 00:42:44,910
the recreational nuclear weapons was the

949
00:42:42,690 –> 00:42:47,550
big was where I was going with that

950
00:42:44,910 –> 00:42:49,650
because that’s one that I I know a lot

951
00:42:47,550 –> 00:42:51,600
of hardcore libertarians who even on

952
00:42:49,650 –> 00:42:55,590
that when they’ll back off and they’ll

953
00:42:51,600 –> 00:42:57,120
say funny I mean I know that people have

954
00:42:55,590 –> 00:42:58,950
a lot of concern with nuclear weapons

955
00:42:57,120 –> 00:43:01,740
but the reality is is that we are the

956
00:42:58,950 –> 00:43:04,080
only nation that has ever used them no

957
00:43:01,740 –> 00:43:06,810
other nation has ever detonated or

958
00:43:04,080 –> 00:43:08,940
deployed nuclear weapons to harm another

959
00:43:06,810 –> 00:43:11,880
nation they may have done so in their

960
00:43:08,940 –> 00:43:15,900
backyard and and she imploded a mountain

961
00:43:11,880 –> 00:43:18,060
North Korea I’m looking at you they have

962
00:43:15,900 –> 00:43:20,910
not ever used nuclear weapons to harm

963
00:43:18,060 –> 00:43:22,320
other nations only we have done that so

964
00:43:20,910 –> 00:43:24,090
it’s funny that we have this sort of

965
00:43:22,320 –> 00:43:25,590
overarching fear about like well if they

966
00:43:24,090 –> 00:43:27,510
acquire it they’re gonna do terrible

967
00:43:25,590 –> 00:43:29,580
things well that’s like people who

968
00:43:27,510 –> 00:43:31,530
project qualities onto others because

969
00:43:29,580 –> 00:43:32,880
it’s a neat to them like saying like I’m

970
00:43:31,530 –> 00:43:35,960
concerned about you cheating on me

971
00:43:32,880 –> 00:43:39,270
because I’m a person who cheat like

972
00:43:35,960 –> 00:43:41,610
we’re the one who needs to be stopped in

973
00:43:39,270 –> 00:43:43,170
that capacity we need to make a

974
00:43:41,610 –> 00:43:44,730
good-faith effort to get rid of our

975
00:43:43,170 –> 00:43:46,320
nuclear weapons and show the rest of the

976
00:43:44,730 –> 00:43:47,760
world that we’re not a threat and that

977
00:43:46,320 –> 00:43:51,570
we don’t need to keep ramping up

978
00:43:47,760 –> 00:43:55,350
armaments in order to somehow keep the

979
00:43:51,570 –> 00:43:58,140
peace we should just use nuclear energy

980
00:43:55,350 –> 00:44:00,330
and focus it that way because that’s a

981
00:43:58,140 –> 00:44:03,060
way more cost-effective instead of using

982
00:44:00,330 –> 00:44:04,710
it to make armaments I know I agree

983
00:44:03,060 –> 00:44:07,500
totally and what I’ve found is most of

984
00:44:04,710 –> 00:44:09,180
the people who really who say no we can

985
00:44:07,500 –> 00:44:12,740
have nukes but nobody else should have

986
00:44:09,180 –> 00:44:16,170
nukes are the same people who argue the

987
00:44:12,740 –> 00:44:18,600
gun like and I agree with them here is

988
00:44:16,170 –> 00:44:20,010
that you know yet if more people are

989
00:44:18,600 –> 00:44:23,850
armed you’re going to have less crime

990
00:44:20,010 –> 00:44:26,860
where there there’s arguing the exact

991
00:44:23,850 –> 00:44:30,100
opposite when it comes on a global scale

992
00:44:26,860 –> 00:44:32,290
as opposed to just hearing home hey

993
00:44:30,100 –> 00:44:33,520
everybody’s if you don’t know which

994
00:44:32,290 –> 00:44:35,940
houses are armed you’re gonna have less

995
00:44:33,520 –> 00:44:38,290
people breaking in which is true because

996
00:44:35,940 –> 00:44:40,420
you don’t want to get shot and I

997
00:44:38,290 –> 00:44:41,650
understand that it probably doesn’t feel

998
00:44:40,420 –> 00:44:47,380
good that’s one thing that I’ve never

999
00:44:41,650 –> 00:44:52,480
experienced thank God I heard it stings

1000
00:44:47,380 –> 00:44:54,460
I heard it’s worse than a paper cut ends

1001
00:44:52,480 –> 00:44:56,110
where the paper cutting that’s that’s a

1002
00:44:54,460 –> 00:45:03,100
that’s actually pretty valid I’ve had

1003
00:44:56,110 –> 00:45:04,720
some bad ones where they did that paper

1004
00:45:03,100 –> 00:45:07,540
cuts in the webbing of their toes oh

1005
00:45:04,720 –> 00:45:09,070
you’re like hey did you that I think

1006
00:45:07,540 –> 00:45:11,070
that may have been in the movie because

1007
00:45:09,070 –> 00:45:14,530
I remember watching that and going ah

1008
00:45:11,070 –> 00:45:19,720
that looks so uncomfortable

1009
00:45:14,530 –> 00:45:22,960
that’s awful why would you do that so in

1010
00:45:19,720 –> 00:45:25,330
one of kind of going along with the drug

1011
00:45:22,960 –> 00:45:27,610
war thing as well as immigration you

1012
00:45:25,330 –> 00:45:31,300
said in an article titled we oppose

1013
00:45:27,610 –> 00:45:33,340
border walls that wiretap wiretap and

1014
00:45:31,300 –> 00:45:35,380
paid informants are more effective tools

1015
00:45:33,340 –> 00:45:39,280
for stopping the workings of drug

1016
00:45:35,380 –> 00:45:43,420
smuggling organizations libertarians

1017
00:45:39,280 –> 00:45:45,040
tend to dislike the wiretapping I didn’t

1018
00:45:43,420 –> 00:45:48,490
write that article that’s Mike running

1019
00:45:45,040 –> 00:45:52,360
mates article oh so you’re running my

1020
00:45:48,490 –> 00:45:56,080
road I thought you wrote those yeah no

1021
00:45:52,360 –> 00:45:59,560
that wasn’t me okay so so you’re not

1022
00:45:56,080 –> 00:46:02,320
about the wiretapping no I’m not okay

1023
00:45:59,560 –> 00:46:04,540
now yeah that because I because I was on

1024
00:46:02,320 –> 00:46:06,100
your I was on your website and I came

1025
00:46:04,540 –> 00:46:07,540
across that article and then at the

1026
00:46:06,100 –> 00:46:12,430
bottom it said you were named so I

1027
00:46:07,540 –> 00:46:14,170
assumed that you had so yeah because I

1028
00:46:12,430 –> 00:46:15,490
was curious on that I was like yeah I

1029
00:46:14,170 –> 00:46:19,270
was like so what would the criteria for

1030
00:46:15,490 –> 00:46:23,950
wiretapping be because that was I

1031
00:46:19,270 –> 00:46:25,720
actually was very curious on that so

1032
00:46:23,950 –> 00:46:28,570
okay good to know that’s not your

1033
00:46:25,720 –> 00:46:30,580
article totally interesting now okay so

1034
00:46:28,570 –> 00:46:33,940
so read me that section again cuz I want

1035
00:46:30,580 –> 00:46:36,340
to hear it it says that wiretap and paid

1036
00:46:33,940 –> 00:46:38,290
informants are more effective tools for

1037
00:46:36,340 –> 00:46:39,340
stopping the workings of drug smuggling

1038
00:46:38,290 –> 00:46:43,150
organizations

1039
00:46:39,340 –> 00:46:45,580
okay so I was curious on what the

1040
00:46:43,150 –> 00:46:47,950
criteria for wiretapping would be if it

1041
00:46:45,580 –> 00:46:51,850
would be the blanket wiretapping that we

1042
00:46:47,950 –> 00:46:53,380
are seeing now probably not no I don’t

1043
00:46:51,850 –> 00:46:54,760
surmise John would ever advocate for

1044
00:46:53,380 –> 00:46:59,260
warrantless wares happen I would imagine

1045
00:46:54,760 –> 00:47:00,160
that either I was sorry yeah I was just

1046
00:46:59,260 –> 00:47:02,920
gonna say I was just looking for

1047
00:47:00,160 –> 00:47:07,930
clarification on it because it’s on the

1048
00:47:02,920 –> 00:47:09,550
website so that was my main man I cannot

1049
00:47:07,930 –> 00:47:11,260
speak for him necessarily but I’m gonna

1050
00:47:09,550 –> 00:47:13,810
take a shot in the dark because this is

1051
00:47:11,260 –> 00:47:16,420
at least based on that statement this is

1052
00:47:13,810 –> 00:47:19,560
probably what I would say would be semi

1053
00:47:16,420 –> 00:47:23,680
acceptable criteria which is if there is

1054
00:47:19,560 –> 00:47:25,300
clear evidence of wrongdoing by an

1055
00:47:23,680 –> 00:47:27,190
individual you know like you are

1056
00:47:25,300 –> 00:47:29,980
cognizant of there is clear evidence

1057
00:47:27,190 –> 00:47:32,410
this would hold up in an indictment this

1058
00:47:29,980 –> 00:47:34,570
would go to court and you could have

1059
00:47:32,410 –> 00:47:37,360
this person found guilty beyond a

1060
00:47:34,570 –> 00:47:39,970
reasonable doubt then you can get a

1061
00:47:37,360 –> 00:47:41,890
warrant from a judge in order to do

1062
00:47:39,970 –> 00:47:45,730
wiretapping to gain additional evidence

1063
00:47:41,890 –> 00:47:49,510
and or become aware of other people

1064
00:47:45,730 –> 00:47:51,820
affiliated with their wrongdoing but the

1065
00:47:49,510 –> 00:47:55,030
attendance of that is if we ended the

1066
00:47:51,820 –> 00:47:58,420
war on drugs we wouldn’t need to do that

1067
00:47:55,030 –> 00:48:00,220
at all anyway right I don’t know that

1068
00:47:58,420 –> 00:48:01,510
I’m comfortable with that statement in

1069
00:48:00,220 –> 00:48:03,580
the first place because it’s like

1070
00:48:01,510 –> 00:48:05,590
assuming the war on drugs are still

1071
00:48:03,580 –> 00:48:06,790
going on let’s continue to do dastardly

1072
00:48:05,590 –> 00:48:10,680
things and it’s like well if they’re

1073
00:48:06,790 –> 00:48:14,170
producing distributing using narcotics

1074
00:48:10,680 –> 00:48:17,680
none of that none of that harms anyone

1075
00:48:14,170 –> 00:48:19,030
therefore it’s not a crime it shouldn’t

1076
00:48:17,680 –> 00:48:20,500
be a crime just because there’s a law on

1077
00:48:19,030 –> 00:48:21,940
the books it says it’s a crime doesn’t

1078
00:48:20,500 –> 00:48:24,910
mean that it’s an ethical law and

1079
00:48:21,940 –> 00:48:29,080
therefore now it’s a crime so yeah

1080
00:48:24,910 –> 00:48:32,280
that’s my my argument okay so we’ve got

1081
00:48:29,080 –> 00:48:35,200
a question from my very dear friend

1082
00:48:32,280 –> 00:48:36,880
Sarah and reg and she said do

1083
00:48:35,200 –> 00:48:40,540
libertarians believe in any specific

1084
00:48:36,880 –> 00:48:41,800
kind of firearm restrictions which that

1085
00:48:40,540 –> 00:48:44,830
means that she’s probably not that close

1086
00:48:41,800 –> 00:48:49,780
of a friend now I’m realizing because no

1087
00:48:44,830 –> 00:48:51,579
I don’t know we don’t know we don’t

1088
00:48:49,780 –> 00:48:53,319
believe in firearm restrictions right

1089
00:48:51,579 –> 00:48:55,180
we everything comes down to a matter of

1090
00:48:53,319 –> 00:48:57,579
personal responsibility which is that is

1091
00:48:55,180 –> 00:48:59,499
incumbent upon the individual to know

1092
00:48:57,579 –> 00:49:01,239
their limitations and people that are in

1093
00:48:59,499 –> 00:49:02,920
their media family or community to be

1094
00:49:01,239 –> 00:49:04,569
cognizant of those limitations and to

1095
00:49:02,920 –> 00:49:07,269
help guide them to make good decisions

1096
00:49:04,569 –> 00:49:09,880
but using a mechanism of force to

1097
00:49:07,269 –> 00:49:12,009
dictate based on some specious grounds

1098
00:49:09,880 –> 00:49:13,749
or a flimsy flimsy definition because

1099
00:49:12,009 –> 00:49:15,430
it’s always a shifting of goalposts when

1100
00:49:13,749 –> 00:49:17,440
it comes to government right it might be

1101
00:49:15,430 –> 00:49:19,079
something that seems rational now but

1102
00:49:17,440 –> 00:49:21,369
tomorrow it’s going to become

1103
00:49:19,079 –> 00:49:24,339
progressively worse as they strengthen

1104
00:49:21,369 –> 00:49:25,479
and tighten control that is not

1105
00:49:24,339 –> 00:49:27,099
something that we’re of a really

1106
00:49:25,479 –> 00:49:29,130
comfortable way self defense is

1107
00:49:27,099 –> 00:49:31,479
incredibly important most people

1108
00:49:29,130 –> 00:49:33,160
typically regulate themselves I

1109
00:49:31,479 –> 00:49:35,920
personally own two firearms

1110
00:49:33,160 –> 00:49:37,569
one is the 22 caliber handgun that’s for

1111
00:49:35,920 –> 00:49:39,969
a practice because it’s inexpensive to

1112
00:49:37,569 –> 00:49:42,549
buy 22 rounds and then the other one is

1113
00:49:39,969 –> 00:49:44,259
a 45 caliber handgun and that’s because

1114
00:49:42,549 –> 00:49:45,249
it’s a man stopper so if anybody ever

1115
00:49:44,259 –> 00:49:48,219
tried to attack me

1116
00:49:45,249 –> 00:49:51,039
I could engine stop that’s all I need

1117
00:49:48,219 –> 00:49:52,630
now right and because of personal

1118
00:49:51,039 –> 00:49:55,299
responsibility that’s a big reason I

1119
00:49:52,630 –> 00:49:57,670
don’t own firearms you can’t trust

1120
00:49:55,299 –> 00:49:59,199
yourself I can’t ride another there

1121
00:49:57,670 –> 00:50:00,910
there have been times in my life where

1122
00:49:59,199 –> 00:50:02,440
it’s gotten real dark and I just figured

1123
00:50:00,910 –> 00:50:05,469
it’d be better if I just never had one

1124
00:50:02,440 –> 00:50:07,299
around yeah I mean that’s just the way

1125
00:50:05,469 –> 00:50:08,739
that I’ve always looked at it I don’t

1126
00:50:07,299 –> 00:50:10,539
think anybody else shouldn’t be allowed

1127
00:50:08,739 –> 00:50:13,749
to have it I personally made the choice

1128
00:50:10,539 –> 00:50:16,630
for myself that I shouldn’t own right

1129
00:50:13,749 –> 00:50:21,940
now I will beat somebody with a baseball

1130
00:50:16,630 –> 00:50:24,099
bat should I if I have to but but that’s

1131
00:50:21,940 –> 00:50:25,569
just you know that’s just the way it is

1132
00:50:24,099 –> 00:50:26,979
but it’s because of my belief and

1133
00:50:25,569 –> 00:50:28,779
personal responsibility it’s like I

1134
00:50:26,979 –> 00:50:31,119
wasn’t personally responsible to handle

1135
00:50:28,779 –> 00:50:34,869
alcohol but even though I’ve tried for a

1136
00:50:31,119 –> 00:50:36,969
very long time and drugs and anything

1137
00:50:34,869 –> 00:50:38,709
else like I learned these things and

1138
00:50:36,969 –> 00:50:41,289
personal responsibility caused me to

1139
00:50:38,709 –> 00:50:44,229
stop using all of that not own firearm

1140
00:50:41,289 –> 00:50:45,160
and I think everybody else has the right

1141
00:50:44,229 –> 00:50:47,650
to do those things

1142
00:50:45,160 –> 00:50:50,319
knock yourself out that’s on you right

1143
00:50:47,650 –> 00:50:53,469
that’s not my responsibility so that’s

1144
00:50:50,319 –> 00:50:55,630
the same way I feel on firearms yeah I

1145
00:50:53,469 –> 00:50:57,190
agree completely I think that at least

1146
00:50:55,630 –> 00:50:59,589
based on my own experience and

1147
00:50:57,190 –> 00:51:01,930
observations of other people it’s not

1148
00:50:59,589 –> 00:51:03,989
government policy that discourages us

1149
00:51:01,930 –> 00:51:05,440
from doing things that are unhealthier

1150
00:51:03,989 –> 00:51:07,599
unhelpful to us

1151
00:51:05,440 –> 00:51:09,849
selves it’s usually experience or

1152
00:51:07,599 –> 00:51:11,800
observation of others and then of course

1153
00:51:09,849 –> 00:51:13,869
having people in your world in your

1154
00:51:11,800 –> 00:51:15,819
corner who are truly advocates for you

1155
00:51:13,869 –> 00:51:17,910
looking out for you and helping guide

1156
00:51:15,819 –> 00:51:20,290
you I mean all of us have made mistakes

1157
00:51:17,910 –> 00:51:21,400
all of us are human and we’re

1158
00:51:20,290 –> 00:51:22,720
beautifully imperfect

1159
00:51:21,400 –> 00:51:24,609
but we’ve learned from those mistakes

1160
00:51:22,720 –> 00:51:26,740
because we’ve had people who’ve pulled

1161
00:51:24,609 –> 00:51:28,000
for us and encouraged us to help carry

1162
00:51:26,740 –> 00:51:31,119
us at times where we couldn’t carry

1163
00:51:28,000 –> 00:51:33,280
ourselves we are better for that and

1164
00:51:31,119 –> 00:51:35,079
that didn’t require government policy

1165
00:51:33,280 –> 00:51:38,290
that didn’t require us to pay a

1166
00:51:35,079 –> 00:51:40,750
bureaucrat to tell us what we need to do

1167
00:51:38,290 –> 00:51:43,569
with our lives and that’s why so many

1168
00:51:40,750 –> 00:51:45,130
people are libertarians this concept of

1169
00:51:43,569 –> 00:51:46,599
you know this is something that if you

1170
00:51:45,130 –> 00:51:48,069
forgive me for a second for going off on

1171
00:51:46,599 –> 00:51:50,530
a tangent this is something that always

1172
00:51:48,069 –> 00:51:51,760
aggravates me is that and this is no

1173
00:51:50,530 –> 00:51:54,339
offense to your friend this is just

1174
00:51:51,760 –> 00:51:55,990
something that her question inspired a

1175
00:51:54,339 –> 00:51:57,579
lot of people when you talk to them

1176
00:51:55,990 –> 00:52:00,910
about various different things you say

1177
00:51:57,579 –> 00:52:02,470
okay if this wasn’t a law would you go

1178
00:52:00,910 –> 00:52:03,880
out tomorrow and murder somebody and

1179
00:52:02,470 –> 00:52:04,480
they’re like oh no I wouldn’t murder

1180
00:52:03,880 –> 00:52:07,060
anybody

1181
00:52:04,480 –> 00:52:08,829
right but my neighbor you know they’re

1182
00:52:07,060 –> 00:52:12,130
always concerned about somebody over

1183
00:52:08,829 –> 00:52:13,510
there some other undefined other whether

1184
00:52:12,130 –> 00:52:16,329
it’s their immediate neighbor or

1185
00:52:13,510 –> 00:52:18,579
somebody in their world is going to do a

1186
00:52:16,329 –> 00:52:20,740
horrible crime if they don’t have these

1187
00:52:18,579 –> 00:52:23,230
laws in place but if you talk to that

1188
00:52:20,740 –> 00:52:25,270
neighbor or that person in their world

1189
00:52:23,230 –> 00:52:27,819
and ask them the exact same question if

1190
00:52:25,270 –> 00:52:30,220
government laws didn’t exist would you

1191
00:52:27,819 –> 00:52:31,720
go and somehow lack morality and make

1192
00:52:30,220 –> 00:52:33,670
these bad decisions that harm other

1193
00:52:31,720 –> 00:52:37,599
people they’re like no I would never do

1194
00:52:33,670 –> 00:52:39,339
that we make laws because we’re afraid

1195
00:52:37,599 –> 00:52:41,349
of what other people are going to do

1196
00:52:39,339 –> 00:52:43,270
right not because we don’t trust

1197
00:52:41,349 –> 00:52:45,430
ourselves not because we need a

1198
00:52:43,270 –> 00:52:47,170
tyrannical straitjacket to keep us in

1199
00:52:45,430 –> 00:52:49,869
line we’re good people

1200
00:52:47,170 –> 00:52:52,690
we’ll do the right thing but somebody

1201
00:52:49,869 –> 00:52:54,579
else who I haven’t met and I don’t know

1202
00:52:52,690 –> 00:52:56,440
and I’m presuming to speak for they

1203
00:52:54,579 –> 00:52:59,349
can’t be trusted and that’s why we need

1204
00:52:56,440 –> 00:53:01,060
a law and that’s sort of nonsense is

1205
00:52:59,349 –> 00:53:02,530
exactly why we’re in the situation we’re

1206
00:53:01,060 –> 00:53:05,619
in that’s why we have people who are

1207
00:53:02,530 –> 00:53:07,359
serving life sentences for non crimes

1208
00:53:05,619 –> 00:53:09,190
because we’re worried about something

1209
00:53:07,359 –> 00:53:11,260
somebody else might do maybe I don’t

1210
00:53:09,190 –> 00:53:12,339
know right and actually that’s the

1211
00:53:11,260 –> 00:53:16,630
perfect segue because I was gonna bring

1212
00:53:12,339 –> 00:53:18,730
up a criminal justice reform so that

1213
00:53:16,630 –> 00:53:20,740
that worked out really well

1214
00:53:18,730 –> 00:53:25,060
criminal justice for some that I care

1215
00:53:20,740 –> 00:53:26,710
deeply deeply about we’ve got hundreds

1216
00:53:25,060 –> 00:53:28,540
of thousands to millions of people in

1217
00:53:26,710 –> 00:53:30,910
jail for things that they should not be

1218
00:53:28,540 –> 00:53:32,320
in jail for victimless crimes you’ve got

1219
00:53:30,910 –> 00:53:35,050
people in on drug charge you get people

1220
00:53:32,320 –> 00:53:37,810
in sex workers you’ve got all of these

1221
00:53:35,050 –> 00:53:39,520
things that are going on that should not

1222
00:53:37,810 –> 00:53:41,350
be crimes and I’m not talking like the

1223
00:53:39,520 –> 00:53:57,100
Jeffrey Epstein’s of the world I’m

1224
00:53:41,350 –> 00:53:59,050
talking about 34th Street Molly I know

1225
00:53:57,100 –> 00:54:04,510
she’s just trying to make a buck you

1226
00:53:59,050 –> 00:54:06,550
know she’s got skills I hear but you you

1227
00:54:04,510 –> 00:54:09,370
have these issues where these were

1228
00:54:06,550 –> 00:54:12,630
people who have done in my eyes nothing

1229
00:54:09,370 –> 00:54:17,170
wrong are rotting away in prison and

1230
00:54:12,630 –> 00:54:18,400
other people are getting off I know that

1231
00:54:17,170 –> 00:54:21,790
criminal justice reform is one of the

1232
00:54:18,400 –> 00:54:25,470
main platforms that you have what what

1233
00:54:21,790 –> 00:54:27,670
is your what would your plan be well

1234
00:54:25,470 –> 00:54:30,070
I’ve talked about this a couple of times

1235
00:54:27,670 –> 00:54:31,990
but to reiterate because I’m running for

1236
00:54:30,070 –> 00:54:34,660
president and because that only really

1237
00:54:31,990 –> 00:54:36,340
meaningfully impacts federal and the

1238
00:54:34,660 –> 00:54:38,920
executive branch what I’m primarily

1239
00:54:36,340 –> 00:54:41,800
focusing on is doing a massive overhaul

1240
00:54:38,920 –> 00:54:43,090
of federal criminal justice system so

1241
00:54:41,800 –> 00:54:45,430
that would mean one of the things that I

1242
00:54:43,090 –> 00:54:48,010
really really want to do is to be able

1243
00:54:45,430 –> 00:54:50,890
to get into office and do a major audit

1244
00:54:48,010 –> 00:54:52,720
of every single prosecuting attorney on

1245
00:54:50,890 –> 00:54:54,580
the federal level and look at their

1246
00:54:52,720 –> 00:54:57,130
incarceration rate because right now we

1247
00:54:54,580 –> 00:55:00,130
incentivize it so that those who convict

1248
00:54:57,130 –> 00:55:01,990
more are considered better prosecutors

1249
00:55:00,130 –> 00:55:03,490
as opposed to what the original

1250
00:55:01,990 –> 00:55:05,650
inception of our criminal justice system

1251
00:55:03,490 –> 00:55:07,450
was which is seeking the truth right

1252
00:55:05,650 –> 00:55:08,830
people who were prosecutors on behalf of

1253
00:55:07,450 –> 00:55:10,510
the state or on behalf of the federal

1254
00:55:08,830 –> 00:55:12,700
government we’re supposed to ascertain

1255
00:55:10,510 –> 00:55:14,740
the truth not withhold evidence not

1256
00:55:12,700 –> 00:55:16,750
engage in prosecutorial misconduct not

1257
00:55:14,740 –> 00:55:19,150
bully people through the media or civil

1258
00:55:16,750 –> 00:55:21,760
asset forfeiture and to infesting to a

1259
00:55:19,150 –> 00:55:24,250
lesser crime rather they were supposed

1260
00:55:21,760 –> 00:55:25,840
to find the capital T truth so if I go

1261
00:55:24,250 –> 00:55:27,280
through this audit and I look at their

1262
00:55:25,840 –> 00:55:31,760
incarceration rate or their conviction

1263
00:55:27,280 –> 00:55:34,850
rate I will undoubtedly see that they

1264
00:55:31,760 –> 00:55:36,500
it’s conviction over the truth and that

1265
00:55:34,850 –> 00:55:38,480
they put people who didn’t deserve to be

1266
00:55:36,500 –> 00:55:40,130
put in prison away or they put people

1267
00:55:38,480 –> 00:55:43,430
who didn’t deserve the sentences they

1268
00:55:40,130 –> 00:55:45,560
got away for far longer and they will be

1269
00:55:43,430 –> 00:55:48,200
immediately disbarred and forced to get

1270
00:55:45,560 –> 00:55:49,700
a job in the private sector doing

1271
00:55:48,200 –> 00:55:52,660
something that does not involve them

1272
00:55:49,700 –> 00:55:56,570
ever touching law again because that is

1273
00:55:52,660 –> 00:55:59,990
just criminal that to me more so than

1274
00:55:56,570 –> 00:56:02,230
the breaking of a law the erosion of

1275
00:55:59,990 –> 00:56:04,220
civil liberties the erosion of the

1276
00:56:02,230 –> 00:56:06,260
entire foundation of our criminal

1277
00:56:04,220 –> 00:56:08,540
justice system and the fact that we do

1278
00:56:06,260 –> 00:56:11,150
treat everyone like a criminal whether

1279
00:56:08,540 –> 00:56:14,600
they’ve done something wrong or not that

1280
00:56:11,150 –> 00:56:16,940
is the worst thing so I really want to

1281
00:56:14,600 –> 00:56:19,580
stop that completely and then anyone who

1282
00:56:16,940 –> 00:56:21,470
is a victimless criminal on a federal

1283
00:56:19,580 –> 00:56:23,480
level anyone who is a political prisoner

1284
00:56:21,470 –> 00:56:25,369
on a federal level

1285
00:56:23,480 –> 00:56:28,310
I want to pardon them immediately and

1286
00:56:25,369 –> 00:56:29,660
see a reinstitution of their rights I

1287
00:56:28,310 –> 00:56:32,150
can’t give them back the time that they

1288
00:56:29,660 –> 00:56:35,210
lost which is greatly unfortunate but I

1289
00:56:32,150 –> 00:56:36,920
can give them back now so that is

1290
00:56:35,210 –> 00:56:39,320
something that is just very very big to

1291
00:56:36,920 –> 00:56:42,109
me and then of course whatever I can in

1292
00:56:39,320 –> 00:56:43,940
my ideal world the founder of the

1293
00:56:42,109 –> 00:56:47,150
Innocence Project or the equal justice

1294
00:56:43,940 –> 00:56:49,340
initiative those two men would be my my

1295
00:56:47,150 –> 00:56:51,170
attorney I want them as my Attorney

1296
00:56:49,340 –> 00:56:53,359
General because it would just be amazing

1297
00:56:51,170 –> 00:56:56,119
to have them on my team know absolutely

1298
00:56:53,359 –> 00:57:00,680
that see you’re already building a

1299
00:56:56,119 –> 00:57:01,490
cabinet I like so have you ever are you

1300
00:57:00,680 –> 00:57:03,350
familiar with the equal justice

1301
00:57:01,490 –> 00:57:05,330
initiative I just found out about him

1302
00:57:03,350 –> 00:57:08,119
semi recent I don’t know them but I know

1303
00:57:05,330 –> 00:57:09,410
the Innocence Project okay so bright I

1304
00:57:08,119 –> 00:57:10,850
heard about this on on podcast I

1305
00:57:09,410 –> 00:57:11,960
listened to your called criminal I don’t

1306
00:57:10,850 –> 00:57:14,030
know if you’ve ever heard that podcast

1307
00:57:11,960 –> 00:57:17,359
but it’s really really good and it was

1308
00:57:14,030 –> 00:57:19,220
it was called um just mercy was the name

1309
00:57:17,359 –> 00:57:21,260
of the episode which is also the name of

1310
00:57:19,220 –> 00:57:23,480
Bryan Stevenson’s book that he just

1311
00:57:21,260 –> 00:57:25,880
wrote and he is the founder of the equal

1312
00:57:23,480 –> 00:57:27,590
justice initiative in Alabama and they

1313
00:57:25,880 –> 00:57:28,960
have been huge advocates for people

1314
00:57:27,590 –> 00:57:30,830
who’ve been wrongfully convicted

1315
00:57:28,960 –> 00:57:33,170
children who have been tried as adults

1316
00:57:30,830 –> 00:57:36,200
and been penalized thusly people who are

1317
00:57:33,170 –> 00:57:39,590
mentally incompetent to be held to the

1318
00:57:36,200 –> 00:57:43,190
same standards they’ve been major

1319
00:57:39,590 –> 00:57:45,069
advocates and his book just mercy had

1320
00:57:43,190 –> 00:57:47,529
such a huge profound impact

1321
00:57:45,069 –> 00:57:49,689
me it was both beautifully compassionate

1322
00:57:47,529 –> 00:57:52,150
and heartbreaking some of the cases that

1323
00:57:49,689 –> 00:57:54,789
they face just it’s it’s astonishing to

1324
00:57:52,150 –> 00:57:56,979
me how we do this and it continues to

1325
00:57:54,789 –> 00:57:57,609
happen and we don’t cry out about it

1326
00:57:56,979 –> 00:57:59,199
more often

1327
00:57:57,609 –> 00:58:02,559
they just said another really good

1328
00:57:59,199 –> 00:58:04,719
podcast where they talked about Curtis

1329
00:58:02,559 –> 00:58:07,329
flowers in Mississippi who had been

1330
00:58:04,719 –> 00:58:10,900
convicted of a quadruple or quintuple

1331
00:58:07,329 –> 00:58:12,309
homicide and he was found his the

1332
00:58:10,900 –> 00:58:15,429
prosecuting attorney of the district

1333
00:58:12,309 –> 00:58:18,429
attorney Doug Evans had been found to

1334
00:58:15,429 –> 00:58:21,429
have committed prosecutorial misconduct

1335
00:58:18,429 –> 00:58:23,349
and so it was appealed and then he just

1336
00:58:21,429 –> 00:58:25,900
turned around and retried him and that

1337
00:58:23,349 –> 00:58:28,569
didn’t just happen once it happened six

1338
00:58:25,900 –> 00:58:30,849
times six times this Curtis flowers was

1339
00:58:28,569 –> 00:58:34,959
tried and convicted of murdering these

1340
00:58:30,849 –> 00:58:38,769
people on completely superficial grounds

1341
00:58:34,959 –> 00:58:41,349
totally there was no evidence there were

1342
00:58:38,769 –> 00:58:43,569
you know jailhouse informants and some

1343
00:58:41,349 –> 00:58:45,249
specious allegations no put forth but

1344
00:58:43,569 –> 00:58:48,640
there was no real evidence to prove that

1345
00:58:45,249 –> 00:58:50,439
he actually did anything and he still

1346
00:58:48,640 –> 00:58:53,949
has been sitting in prison for I think

1347
00:58:50,439 –> 00:58:56,409
it’s what 27 years it happens is over 20

1348
00:58:53,949 –> 00:58:57,729
years and just recently went before the

1349
00:58:56,409 –> 00:59:00,759
Supreme Court and the Supreme Court

1350
00:58:57,729 –> 00:59:02,559
found that his prosecuting attorney was

1351
00:59:00,759 –> 00:59:05,849
guilty of a Batson violation which is

1352
00:59:02,559 –> 00:59:08,289
when you typically have you crowd out

1353
00:59:05,849 –> 00:59:10,599
African Americans you ensure that

1354
00:59:08,289 –> 00:59:12,729
there’s more of a homogeneous jury you

1355
00:59:10,599 –> 00:59:14,589
so you strike out anybody who would have

1356
00:59:12,729 –> 00:59:16,359
more diversity so they found it

1357
00:59:14,589 –> 00:59:18,759
responsible for a Batson violation and

1358
00:59:16,359 –> 00:59:20,529
again overturn the conviction but now

1359
00:59:18,759 –> 00:59:23,140
that guy is talking about trying him a

1360
00:59:20,529 –> 00:59:25,809
seventh time like this is insanity

1361
00:59:23,140 –> 00:59:27,969
so yeah just crazy stuff happens and

1362
00:59:25,809 –> 00:59:30,909
it’s these are people’s lives caught in

1363
00:59:27,969 –> 00:59:36,489
the fray it in Tennessee recently they

1364
00:59:30,909 –> 00:59:40,150
had what was that guy matthew charles he

1365
00:59:36,489 –> 00:59:42,369
was convicted years ago for i believe it

1366
00:59:40,150 –> 00:59:45,009
was a drug possession and he was in jail

1367
00:59:42,369 –> 00:59:47,499
for a really long time at four and he

1368
00:59:45,009 –> 00:59:50,919
recently got pardoned but they tried him

1369
00:59:47,499 –> 00:59:52,509
they let him go and then they said that

1370
00:59:50,919 –> 00:59:54,249
he didn’t finish his time so they just

1371
00:59:52,509 –> 00:59:57,339
arrested him again made him finish out

1372
00:59:54,249 –> 00:59:58,299
the rest of his time and then he ended

1373
00:59:57,339 –> 01:00:00,880
just got part

1374
00:59:58,299 –> 01:00:05,019
and maybe four or five months ago and

1375
01:00:00,880 –> 01:00:07,359
he’s out now but like this the criminal

1376
01:00:05,019 –> 01:00:08,019
justice system in America is it is

1377
01:00:07,359 –> 01:00:13,089
broken

1378
01:00:08,019 –> 01:00:14,799
it is yakun it is I hate saying like I

1379
01:00:13,089 –> 01:00:16,119
hate using racist because people have

1380
01:00:14,799 –> 01:00:17,679
dumbed it down to the point that it

1381
01:00:16,119 –> 01:00:19,390
doesn’t even mean anything anymore

1382
01:00:17,679 –> 01:00:23,589
but so much of the criminal justice

1383
01:00:19,390 –> 01:00:24,969
system is racist and it goes against

1384
01:00:23,589 –> 01:00:28,329
everything that America is supposed to

1385
01:00:24,969 –> 01:00:29,650
be in my mind right now the the whole

1386
01:00:28,329 –> 01:00:31,209
point and purpose of having that

1387
01:00:29,650 –> 01:00:33,130
criminal justice system as it was

1388
01:00:31,209 –> 01:00:35,140
originally designed was to allow anyone

1389
01:00:33,130 –> 01:00:37,839
regardless of ethnic background or

1390
01:00:35,140 –> 01:00:40,779
economic class or station it was to

1391
01:00:37,839 –> 01:00:42,849
afford them equivalent representation in

1392
01:00:40,779 –> 01:00:44,709
the criminal justice system and that

1393
01:00:42,849 –> 01:00:47,349
erosion of similarity is in the

1394
01:00:44,709 –> 01:00:49,420
elimination of habeas corpus and mens

1395
01:00:47,349 –> 01:00:51,400
rea a– or other things that are

1396
01:00:49,420 –> 01:00:53,619
incredibly important and part of that

1397
01:00:51,400 –> 01:00:55,989
foundation means that we are

1398
01:00:53,619 –> 01:00:57,789
disproportionately convicting minorities

1399
01:00:55,989 –> 01:00:59,619
we were disproportionately convicting

1400
01:00:57,789 –> 01:01:02,140
impoverished people who can’t afford a

1401
01:00:59,619 –> 01:01:05,469
better defense and that is what we’re

1402
01:01:02,140 –> 01:01:08,499
filling up our prisons with right and if

1403
01:01:05,469 –> 01:01:10,809
that’s when I worked briefly with a

1404
01:01:08,499 –> 01:01:11,529
non-profit the melibea initiative and

1405
01:01:10,809 –> 01:01:13,059
one of the things that they’re working

1406
01:01:11,529 –> 01:01:16,839
on is free market solutions to the

1407
01:01:13,059 –> 01:01:18,670
criminal justice system and they were

1408
01:01:16,839 –> 01:01:21,219
doing that they do a lot of great work

1409
01:01:18,670 –> 01:01:25,329
and I respect everybody there very much

1410
01:01:21,219 –> 01:01:26,859
and they’re working on getting AB and

1411
01:01:25,329 –> 01:01:29,499
the Box kind of thing in a free-market

1412
01:01:26,859 –> 01:01:31,959
way where companies would agree to take

1413
01:01:29,499 –> 01:01:34,660
the box off of the have you ever been

1414
01:01:31,959 –> 01:01:36,429
convicted which that huge step in the

1415
01:01:34,660 –> 01:01:40,509
right direction it allows you to

1416
01:01:36,429 –> 01:01:42,249
actually reintegrate into society it’s

1417
01:01:40,509 –> 01:01:44,199
been something that I’ve cared about a

1418
01:01:42,249 –> 01:01:45,910
lot since I got involved in a

1419
01:01:44,199 –> 01:01:48,609
libertarian movement is criminal justice

1420
01:01:45,910 –> 01:01:50,709
reform so it’s good to see you

1421
01:01:48,609 –> 01:01:52,630
passionate about that because it is a

1422
01:01:50,709 –> 01:01:57,449
broken broken system

1423
01:01:52,630 –> 01:01:57,449
that needs to definitely be fixed

1424
01:01:57,539 –> 01:02:02,969
although something else that definitely

1425
01:01:59,619 –> 01:02:04,900
needs to be fixed when you’re elected

1426
01:02:02,969 –> 01:02:07,739
how long would the Department of

1427
01:02:04,900 –> 01:02:07,739
Education be around

1428
01:02:12,410 –> 01:02:19,349
well no greater than four years way to

1429
01:02:17,069 –> 01:02:21,209
put it when we you know we were talking

1430
01:02:19,349 –> 01:02:23,099
about this because even though the

1431
01:02:21,209 –> 01:02:24,719
probability is not in our favor of

1432
01:02:23,099 –> 01:02:26,459
getting elected this is just the reality

1433
01:02:24,719 –> 01:02:28,499
running as a third party and the

1434
01:02:26,459 –> 01:02:32,160
stranglehold the two major parties have

1435
01:02:28,499 –> 01:02:33,749
on politics it’s still important for us

1436
01:02:32,160 –> 01:02:36,299
to view this from the perspective of

1437
01:02:33,749 –> 01:02:37,920
this is what I would do this is my

1438
01:02:36,299 –> 01:02:39,569
hundred days plan this is the cabinet

1439
01:02:37,920 –> 01:02:41,099
that I would staff and I was looking at

1440
01:02:39,569 –> 01:02:43,559
all of the different positions that are

1441
01:02:41,099 –> 01:02:45,589
currently part of the cabinet and like

1442
01:02:43,559 –> 01:02:47,910
75% of them aren’t even constitutional

1443
01:02:45,589 –> 01:02:49,739
you know there’s no department that they

1444
01:02:47,910 –> 01:02:51,660
can justifiably manage because it’s not

1445
01:02:49,739 –> 01:02:52,650
actually afforded by the Constitution

1446
01:02:51,660 –> 01:02:54,660
it’s something that should be allocated

1447
01:02:52,650 –> 01:02:57,809
to States based on the Tenth Amendment

1448
01:02:54,660 –> 01:02:59,430
so hartman education is a really good

1449
01:02:57,809 –> 01:03:00,959
example Department of Education

1450
01:02:59,430 –> 01:03:02,249
absolutely was never supposed to be

1451
01:03:00,959 –> 01:03:04,019
under the purview of the federal

1452
01:03:02,249 –> 01:03:07,229
government that was incumbent upon

1453
01:03:04,019 –> 01:03:08,969
communities to the greatest extent and

1454
01:03:07,229 –> 01:03:11,190
then the state to a significantly lesser

1455
01:03:08,969 –> 01:03:13,949
extent to provide that public education

1456
01:03:11,190 –> 01:03:15,630
wasn’t even really a thing that we did

1457
01:03:13,949 –> 01:03:19,979
until the industrialization of our

1458
01:03:15,630 –> 01:03:21,239
nation so yeah I I do believe that we

1459
01:03:19,979 –> 01:03:23,759
should absolutely abolish that

1460
01:03:21,239 –> 01:03:25,650
department I would not staff that seat I

1461
01:03:23,759 –> 01:03:27,269
think that that’s something that we need

1462
01:03:25,650 –> 01:03:30,119
to privatize and I think that if we

1463
01:03:27,269 –> 01:03:32,309
relinquish the stranglehold we have on

1464
01:03:30,119 –> 01:03:33,869
people’s tax dollar and permitted them

1465
01:03:32,309 –> 01:03:36,269
to have more of the wage that they

1466
01:03:33,869 –> 01:03:39,739
earned they could then in turn afford

1467
01:03:36,269 –> 01:03:43,529
much better education on their own terms

1468
01:03:39,739 –> 01:03:47,900
right and then with private charities

1469
01:03:43,529 –> 01:03:50,190
being more prevalent in those societies

1470
01:03:47,900 –> 01:03:51,539
people would be able to go to them to be

1471
01:03:50,190 –> 01:03:53,339
like hey I want to get my kid into this

1472
01:03:51,539 –> 01:03:56,699
school and they’d be able to pick the

1473
01:03:53,339 –> 01:03:59,969
school in which this student their son

1474
01:03:56,699 –> 01:04:02,459
and or daughter or Z would be able to go

1475
01:03:59,969 –> 01:04:05,699
to right and there’s a lot of private

1476
01:04:02,459 –> 01:04:08,640
schools that have alums who will set up

1477
01:04:05,699 –> 01:04:10,319
a foundation to help people you know

1478
01:04:08,640 –> 01:04:11,699
help people who want to go to that

1479
01:04:10,319 –> 01:04:13,739
school and have the academic achievement

1480
01:04:11,699 –> 01:04:15,809
or whatever or the requirement but

1481
01:04:13,739 –> 01:04:17,579
couldn’t necessarily afford to go I went

1482
01:04:15,809 –> 01:04:19,650
to an all-girls Catholic school for high

1483
01:04:17,579 –> 01:04:22,289
school and we have quite a few people

1484
01:04:19,650 –> 01:04:23,550
who are alumni of Xavier who do that

1485
01:04:22,289 –> 01:04:25,140
very thing so

1486
01:04:23,550 –> 01:04:26,690
you can have other people who couldn’t

1487
01:04:25,140 –> 01:04:29,490
normally afford to pay the tuition

1488
01:04:26,690 –> 01:04:31,440
covered and get that superior education

1489
01:04:29,490 –> 01:04:33,030
you’re not gonna learn science very well

1490
01:04:31,440 –> 01:04:35,040
because you know it conflicts with the

1491
01:04:33,030 –> 01:04:36,660
whole religious aspect but your writing

1492
01:04:35,040 –> 01:04:41,730
and your history is going to be awesome

1493
01:04:36,660 –> 01:04:44,940
right yeah make a I’ll teach writing to

1494
01:04:41,730 –> 01:04:46,650
anybody that’ll be fun no no write

1495
01:04:44,940 –> 01:04:48,210
whatever you want I don’t care no that’s

1496
01:04:46,650 –> 01:04:49,410
great you need to learn the difference

1497
01:04:48,210 –> 01:04:51,600
between there there and there once you

1498
01:04:49,410 –> 01:04:55,670
figure that out come back come back to

1499
01:04:51,600 –> 01:04:58,560
the Internet and make it the meme right

1500
01:04:55,670 –> 01:05:00,120
Jane Sweeney says his only request is

1501
01:04:58,560 –> 01:05:02,070
when you get elected appointment to the

1502
01:05:00,120 –> 01:05:03,660
department’s you want done away with and

1503
01:05:02,070 –> 01:05:06,390
then he’ll hold a press conference

1504
01:05:03,660 –> 01:05:10,170
justifying it to the people thanking you

1505
01:05:06,390 –> 01:05:11,580
and all that that’s sweet I’m like

1506
01:05:10,170 –> 01:05:18,150
blotting my face not because I’m crying

1507
01:05:11,580 –> 01:05:20,550
because it’s like oh my gosh deal

1508
01:05:18,150 –> 01:05:22,650
absolutely Shane’s awesome I totally do

1509
01:05:20,550 –> 01:05:32,250
that yeah I love Shane Shane’s great

1510
01:05:22,650 –> 01:05:33,720
yeah I’m like at least 25 things just

1511
01:05:32,250 –> 01:05:35,070
haven’t do all of them just go okay

1512
01:05:33,720 –> 01:05:36,420
we’re going in this order you’re just

1513
01:05:35,070 –> 01:05:39,630
going to keep getting appointed to the

1514
01:05:36,420 –> 01:05:41,160
next department everybody reach under

1515
01:05:39,630 –> 01:05:42,300
your chair they pull out a piece of

1516
01:05:41,160 –> 01:05:48,930
paper and it’s like these are all the

1517
01:05:42,300 –> 01:05:49,890
departments that are gone now so one of

1518
01:05:48,930 –> 01:05:52,620
the things that I did have a question

1519
01:05:49,890 –> 01:05:55,200
about open debate inclusion for all

1520
01:05:52,620 –> 01:05:59,730
candidates would there be any limitation

1521
01:05:55,200 –> 01:06:02,490
to that no no we do like the Democrats

1522
01:05:59,730 –> 01:06:05,820
are doing right now we’d like 20 20

1523
01:06:02,490 –> 01:06:08,880
different people on stage we could do it

1524
01:06:05,820 –> 01:06:10,620
more like um we could do it more like

1525
01:06:08,880 –> 01:06:12,720
you’re Thunderdome thing like instead of

1526
01:06:10,620 –> 01:06:15,810
it being like a stage that’s like one

1527
01:06:12,720 –> 01:06:17,760
line Roy can do all the way around maybe

1528
01:06:15,810 –> 01:06:23,630
just have the audience sit on a rotating

1529
01:06:17,760 –> 01:06:26,670
disc I don’t know I mean um

1530
01:06:23,630 –> 01:06:27,960
whoever if it’s a private enterprise you

1531
01:06:26,670 –> 01:06:29,760
know if it’s a private foundation or

1532
01:06:27,960 –> 01:06:31,650
organization that puts it on then the

1533
01:06:29,760 –> 01:06:34,050
criteria that they want to establish for

1534
01:06:31,650 –> 01:06:35,940
it is entirely up to them and that needs

1535
01:06:34,050 –> 01:06:37,180
to be honored because it is a private

1536
01:06:35,940 –> 01:06:40,299
organization it’s they

1537
01:06:37,180 –> 01:06:42,010
property there rules whatever so if they

1538
01:06:40,299 –> 01:06:43,690
want to say you know you have to have

1539
01:06:42,010 –> 01:06:45,430
filed with the FEC you have to have

1540
01:06:43,690 –> 01:06:47,740
raised a certain threshold you have to

1541
01:06:45,430 –> 01:06:49,779
have valid access in X amount of states

1542
01:06:47,740 –> 01:06:52,839
then and that’s the criteria they want

1543
01:06:49,779 –> 01:06:53,829
to use to vet candidates that’s fine but

1544
01:06:52,839 –> 01:06:56,170
if they want to make it really

1545
01:06:53,829 –> 01:06:59,500
interesting and get lots of sponsorship

1546
01:06:56,170 –> 01:07:01,420
and have a very very exciting debate I

1547
01:06:59,500 –> 01:07:04,089
strongly encourage them to have me on

1548
01:07:01,420 –> 01:07:12,700
because I will light that bitch on fire

1549
01:07:04,089 –> 01:07:14,770
oh I would love to say whatever you want

1550
01:07:12,700 –> 01:07:18,599
on this show

1551
01:07:14,770 –> 01:07:24,190
I would love to seem a debate between

1552
01:07:18,599 –> 01:07:25,720
Donald Trump and you and whoever wins

1553
01:07:24,190 –> 01:07:27,309
for the Democrats it’d be great if it

1554
01:07:25,720 –> 01:07:31,119
was marianne williamson because i’d just

1555
01:07:27,309 –> 01:07:36,039
be fun and like vermin supreme and Jill

1556
01:07:31,119 –> 01:07:37,059
Stein and some other Ralph Nader if you

1557
01:07:36,039 –> 01:07:39,940
stood I don’t even know if she’s still

1558
01:07:37,059 –> 01:07:41,740
alive and probably he’s not going

1559
01:07:39,940 –> 01:07:44,200
anywhere just having this huge debate

1560
01:07:41,740 –> 01:07:47,170
with everybody that would be so much fun

1561
01:07:44,200 –> 01:07:49,900
and it would actually educate people on

1562
01:07:47,170 –> 01:07:51,430
different options as opposed to you’ve

1563
01:07:49,900 –> 01:07:53,230
got this side of the coin or this side

1564
01:07:51,430 –> 01:08:00,400
of the coin and you’re going to hear

1565
01:07:53,230 –> 01:08:02,789
Donald Trump say wrong by the way you’re

1566
01:08:00,400 –> 01:08:02,789
one word

1567
01:08:03,839 –> 01:08:08,319
yeah no I would much prefer it if there

1568
01:08:06,220 –> 01:08:10,779
was you know credible wide strata of

1569
01:08:08,319 –> 01:08:12,460
ideologies but before the American

1570
01:08:10,779 –> 01:08:14,619
people and they were permitted to truly

1571
01:08:12,460 –> 01:08:16,870
hear the way these different ideologies

1572
01:08:14,619 –> 01:08:19,120
are and what our solutions are ideas

1573
01:08:16,870 –> 01:08:20,739
would be right now like when we do the

1574
01:08:19,120 –> 01:08:23,080
Libertarian Party debates there’s

1575
01:08:20,739 –> 01:08:26,109
precious little difference in the

1576
01:08:23,080 –> 01:08:28,390
overarching philosophy that I hold with

1577
01:08:26,109 –> 01:08:31,659
what any other money what any of the

1578
01:08:28,390 –> 01:08:33,759
other candidates hold so in order to

1579
01:08:31,659 –> 01:08:35,799
sort of distinguish yourself you have to

1580
01:08:33,759 –> 01:08:38,080
kind of it’s harder to distinguish

1581
01:08:35,799 –> 01:08:39,429
yourself when you’re when you’re so much

1582
01:08:38,080 –> 01:08:41,650
aligned and the same thing is true of

1583
01:08:39,429 –> 01:08:43,120
the Democrats I mean there’s Tulsi was a

1584
01:08:41,650 –> 01:08:45,069
standout because she was the only one

1585
01:08:43,120 –> 01:08:47,620
who was anti-war but everybody else

1586
01:08:45,069 –> 01:08:50,230
talked about what varying degrees of

1587
01:08:47,620 –> 01:08:51,319
welfare they were going to enact you

1588
01:08:50,230 –> 01:08:53,060
know that’s

1589
01:08:51,319 –> 01:08:55,099
that’s so sweet Lord just like well

1590
01:08:53,060 –> 01:08:57,949
goodness do I want more of social

1591
01:08:55,099 –> 01:08:59,690
security or more of these benefits like

1592
01:08:57,949 –> 01:09:01,009
maybe you need somebody up there who’s

1593
01:08:59,690 –> 01:09:02,060
like no you don’t need them at all you

1594
01:09:01,009 –> 01:09:03,679
should be able to plan for your own

1595
01:09:02,060 –> 01:09:06,259
retirement right you should be able to

1596
01:09:03,679 –> 01:09:08,179
have your own money so right I mean

1597
01:09:06,259 –> 01:09:10,449
there’s boomers out there that would be

1598
01:09:08,179 –> 01:09:13,909
very disappointed in that statement but

1599
01:09:10,449 –> 01:09:17,630
no no I was promised my Social Security

1600
01:09:13,909 –> 01:09:21,650
and I’m getting it I will give you back

1601
01:09:17,630 –> 01:09:23,480
what you paid and nothing more because I

1602
01:09:21,650 –> 01:09:26,569
think that’s there that’s fair that is

1603
01:09:23,480 –> 01:09:27,949
that is fair I’ve I’ve paid in I don’t

1604
01:09:26,569 –> 01:09:29,779
know how much money is Social Security I

1605
01:09:27,949 –> 01:09:32,690
never figured out can you look that up

1606
01:09:29,779 –> 01:09:34,099
oh I think you know I think you get a

1607
01:09:32,690 –> 01:09:37,069
statement from the Social Security

1608
01:09:34,099 –> 01:09:39,020
Administration every year that you

1609
01:09:37,069 –> 01:09:40,790
typically around tax time I believe

1610
01:09:39,020 –> 01:09:46,119
that’ll specify how much you have paid

1611
01:09:40,790 –> 01:09:46,119
to date I believe mine is a hundred and

1612
01:09:52,449 –> 01:09:59,420
seventeen I hope you know what I hope it

1613
01:09:56,960 –> 01:10:00,860
is 172 dollars if all they took from me

1614
01:09:59,420 –> 01:10:03,889
was a hundred and seventy two dollars

1615
01:10:00,860 –> 01:10:04,849
I’m doing okay right I’d be like you

1616
01:10:03,889 –> 01:10:12,020
know what you can keep it

1617
01:10:04,849 –> 01:10:16,760
I’m fine that’s right don’t spend it all

1618
01:10:12,020 –> 01:10:20,389
on one dinner okay spread that out with

1619
01:10:16,760 –> 01:10:24,040
caps on them for God’s sakes so I know

1620
01:10:20,389 –> 01:10:27,699
that in November you’re gonna be in

1621
01:10:24,040 –> 01:10:30,920
South Carolina yes it’s true yes I

1622
01:10:27,699 –> 01:10:33,860
believe that the entire muddied waters

1623
01:10:30,920 –> 01:10:36,949
media crew is going to be there at that

1624
01:10:33,860 –> 01:10:39,380
event that’s lady yes I’m very excited

1625
01:10:36,949 –> 01:10:41,270
about that event it’s it will also be

1626
01:10:39,380 –> 01:10:43,159
the first time that the members of

1627
01:10:41,270 –> 01:10:44,179
muddied waters media ever meet each

1628
01:10:43,159 –> 01:10:48,050
other in person

1629
01:10:44,179 –> 01:10:49,969
oh sweet it’s like a family reunion yeah

1630
01:10:48,050 –> 01:10:53,300
but the family that’s never met bring

1631
01:10:49,969 –> 01:10:55,099
you were all opted we were all adopted

1632
01:10:53,300 –> 01:10:58,329
in different states and we just talked

1633
01:10:55,099 –> 01:11:00,440
to each other ever over the Internet

1634
01:10:58,329 –> 01:11:04,190
that’ll be fine yeah it’s gonna be a

1635
01:11:00,440 –> 01:11:07,540
good time so besides that big event on

1636
01:11:04,190 –> 01:11:10,090
November 2nd I believe is one that is

1637
01:11:07,540 –> 01:11:13,010
what other things do you have coming up

1638
01:11:10,090 –> 01:11:14,690
well I actually have to get off the horn

1639
01:11:13,010 –> 01:11:16,820
pretty quick here because I need to pack

1640
01:11:14,690 –> 01:11:18,199
and prepare to go to Massachusetts this

1641
01:11:16,820 –> 01:11:20,660
weekend so I’m gonna go to their

1642
01:11:18,199 –> 01:11:22,580
convention which will also be there will

1643
01:11:20,660 –> 01:11:25,070
be a debate that Matt Welch is hosting

1644
01:11:22,580 –> 01:11:27,350
and it will be televised as well okay

1645
01:11:25,070 –> 01:11:30,620
though I’m gonna do that and I believe

1646
01:11:27,350 –> 01:11:33,530
my shuttle picks me up at 2 a.m. so I’m

1647
01:11:30,620 –> 01:11:35,920
excited I was like we’re stayin of all

1648
01:11:33,530 –> 01:11:39,530
night minute 1:45

1649
01:11:35,920 –> 01:11:41,150
but that’s me every time I’m like ok

1650
01:11:39,530 –> 01:11:43,640
I’ve got a 5 a.m. flight I’m just gonna

1651
01:11:41,150 –> 01:11:45,920
stay up all night long which I always do

1652
01:11:43,640 –> 01:11:47,630
but I can’t sleep on planes so the next

1653
01:11:45,920 –> 01:11:51,219
day like my first day at wherever I’m at

1654
01:11:47,630 –> 01:11:51,219
him like don’t just go away

1655
01:11:55,540 –> 01:12:00,890
why is everybody dropping their arse

1656
01:11:57,920 –> 01:12:03,699
it’s not hard to say and why are you

1657
01:12:00,890 –> 01:12:03,699
talking like that

1658
01:12:03,969 –> 01:12:10,820
so if people want to support you learn

1659
01:12:08,449 –> 01:12:13,640
more about you where can they go what

1660
01:12:10,820 –> 01:12:16,640
can they see where can they what

1661
01:12:13,640 –> 01:12:19,670
everyone all of the things all the

1662
01:12:16,640 –> 01:12:21,560
things ok to reiterate my name is Kim

1663
01:12:19,670 –> 01:12:23,810
Roth and I am seeking the Libertarian

1664
01:12:21,560 –> 01:12:26,420
Party nomination for president in 2020

1665
01:12:23,810 –> 01:12:32,449
if you’d like to learn more you can find

1666
01:12:26,420 –> 01:12:34,940
out at WWF Phillips 2020 calm that

1667
01:12:32,449 –> 01:12:38,840
spelled R u F F like dog barking

1668
01:12:34,940 –> 01:12:45,070
Phillips – zero – zero calm also we’re

1669
01:12:38,840 –> 01:13:00,260
on Facebook Twitter Pinterest Instagram

1670
01:12:45,070 –> 01:13:00,920
yeah now we’re on all the things you’ll

1671
01:13:00,260 –> 01:13:03,590
find me there

1672
01:13:00,920 –> 01:13:05,930
it’s like 75% manufacturing

1673
01:13:03,590 –> 01:13:08,570
professionals and then 25% libertarians

1674
01:13:05,930 –> 01:13:12,020
my LinkedIn’s like more appropriate

1675
01:13:08,570 –> 01:13:15,679
right my my LinkedIn is a 25% real

1676
01:13:12,020 –> 01:13:17,630
estate agents 25% people that I’ve met

1677
01:13:15,679 –> 01:13:17,910
that added me randomly and I don’t even

1678
01:13:17,630 –> 01:13:20,460
know

1679
01:13:17,910 –> 01:13:27,450
they do and then 50% libertarians and

1680
01:13:20,460 –> 01:13:31,680
somehow Charlie Kurt I don’t know I’m

1681
01:13:27,450 –> 01:13:35,040
asking like I’m like a person’s name oh

1682
01:13:31,680 –> 01:13:39,000
he sounds interesting now he’s a turning

1683
01:13:35,040 –> 01:13:40,620
point USA guy and I was like end up

1684
01:13:39,000 –> 01:13:45,360
being friends with you in here okay

1685
01:13:40,620 –> 01:13:47,370
weird but so yeah everybody needs to go

1686
01:13:45,360 –> 01:13:51,000
out read read all of your stuff because

1687
01:13:47,370 –> 01:13:52,710
I your website didn’t have any typos so

1688
01:13:51,000 –> 01:13:58,110
I mean right there you’re winning in my

1689
01:13:52,710 –> 01:14:00,450
mind what a low bar we’d set kind of is

1690
01:13:58,110 –> 01:14:05,820
like yes they proof read this this is

1691
01:14:00,450 –> 01:14:09,120
great yeah but now go out and everybody

1692
01:14:05,820 –> 01:14:12,090
check out Kim ruff-ruff Phillips 2020

1693
01:14:09,120 –> 01:14:15,600
dot-com right yeah ruff-ruff Phillips

1694
01:14:12,090 –> 01:14:17,640
2020 calm do you have anything else you

1695
01:14:15,600 –> 01:14:19,890
that you would like to say to all of the

1696
01:14:17,640 –> 01:14:23,430
people out there in the interwebs on the

1697
01:14:19,890 –> 01:14:24,510
inter highway well just thank you very

1698
01:14:23,430 –> 01:14:26,310
much for your time

1699
01:14:24,510 –> 01:14:28,140
appreciate you guys tuning in and of

1700
01:14:26,310 –> 01:14:35,840
course congratulations on your one-year

1701
01:14:28,140 –> 01:14:37,950
anniversary I forgot again people just

1702
01:14:35,840 –> 01:14:40,860
brighten my entire day oh yeah I’ve been

1703
01:14:37,950 –> 01:14:43,590
doing this for a year now well yeah No

1704
01:14:40,860 –> 01:14:45,680
thank you so much for coming on um I

1705
01:14:43,590 –> 01:14:48,720
know that you have to pack for

1706
01:14:45,680 –> 01:14:51,450
Massachusetts say hi to the Red Sox for

1707
01:14:48,720 –> 01:14:53,190
me and if you want to hang out I’m gonna

1708
01:14:51,450 –> 01:14:54,570
do the outro if you want to hang out for

1709
01:14:53,190 –> 01:14:57,540
a minute so I can talk to you afterwards

1710
01:14:54,570 –> 01:14:59,300
if that’s cool okay cool everybody else

1711
01:14:57,540 –> 01:15:01,980
remember that you can follow us on

1712
01:14:59,300 –> 01:15:03,000
facebook at facebook.com slash muddied

1713
01:15:01,980 –> 01:15:04,500
waters media you can follow us on

1714
01:15:03,000 –> 01:15:05,610
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1715
01:15:04,500 –> 01:15:07,140
follow us on twitter at muddy to

1716
01:15:05,610 –> 01:15:10,170
underscore waters and you can follow us

1717
01:15:07,140 –> 01:15:12,950
on youtube at youtube.com slash muddied

1718
01:15:10,170 –> 01:15:16,110
waters media and you can find this an

1719
01:15:12,950 –> 01:15:19,110
anchor FM if you’re starting a podcast

1720
01:15:16,110 –> 01:15:22,020
use anchor FM download the app today and

1721
01:15:19,110 –> 01:15:24,270
you can find us at anchor FM / muddied

1722
01:15:22,020 –> 01:15:26,700
waters and you can find this in every

1723
01:15:24,270 –> 01:15:30,600
episode at muddied waters of freedom

1724
01:15:26,700 –> 01:15:31,469
calm have a great weekend starting

1725
01:15:30,600 –> 01:15:34,110
tomorrow

1726
01:15:31,469 –> 01:15:35,670
we have Jason Lyon with mr. America the

1727
01:15:34,110 –> 01:15:39,179
bearded truth then we’re taking two days

1728
01:15:35,670 –> 01:15:41,880
off Jason Lyman comes back to go through

1729
01:15:39,179 –> 01:15:44,749
the weekend events and the next Tuesday

1730
01:15:41,880 –> 01:15:47,550
spike and I will be right here doing

1731
01:15:44,749 –> 01:15:49,769
muddied waters of freedom and next

1732
01:15:47,550 –> 01:15:53,639
Wednesday spike has an all-new episode

1733
01:15:49,769 –> 01:15:57,539
of my fellow Americans and then next

1734
01:15:53,639 –> 01:15:59,610
Thursday join me right here for whatever

1735
01:15:57,539 –> 01:16:02,969
show the writer’s block whatever show

1736
01:15:59,610 –> 01:16:04,349
this is with whoever my guest is going

1737
01:16:02,969 –> 01:16:07,110
to be because I don’t have that written

1738
01:16:04,349 –> 01:16:12,530
down in my notes so have a great weekend

1739
01:16:07,110 –> 01:16:12,530
enjoy whatever it is you’re gonna do and

1740
01:16:31,130 –> 01:16:36,250
to convince all that world I don’t need

1741
01:16:33,500 –> 01:16:36,250
anybody’s help

1742
01:16:38,550 –> 01:16:42,510
a lot of swimming I have to save me a

1743
01:16:40,469 –> 01:16:45,030
lonely dragging dead

1744
01:16:42,510 –> 01:16:47,699
I’ll try to use your body as a life raft

1745
01:16:45,030 –> 01:16:53,510
cuz if there’s room enough for one there

1746
01:16:47,699 –> 01:16:53,510
must be four to two

1747
01:17:19,230 –> 01:17:24,380
hiding-places broadcast of the evening

1748
01:17:21,660 –> 01:17:24,380
news hour

1749
01:17:41,170 –> 01:17:47,230
don’t bother swimming at to save me I

1750
01:17:43,940 –> 01:17:47,230
will only track it

1751
01:17:48,119 –> 01:18:04,960
don’t bother sweater to save me I will

1752
01:17:51,670 –> 01:18:07,980
only drag myself it’s a standard for the

1753
01:18:04,960 –> 01:18:11,700
legs saga

1754
01:18:07,980 –> 01:18:14,700
to convince all that world I don’t need

1755
01:18:11,700 –> 01:18:14,700
anybody’s

1756
01:18:16,500 –> 01:18:19,280
fuck


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