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0:00:14.139,0:00:17.590 hello can you hear me 0:01:22.470,0:01:27.000 Thank You Juan Ramirez followed by 0:01:33.600,0:01:35.659 you 0:01:36.130,0:01:43.549 you about the Ludo John you about a new 0:01:40.939,0:01:47.319 job job get these things you were about 0:01:43.549,0:01:47.319 to lose your job because you 0:02:45.519,0:02:53.859 if you look the other got your bottle 0:02:49.750,0:02:53.859 cuz you ain't got no reason 0:03:39.380,0:03:45.680 morning good afternoon or good evening 0:03:41.820,0:03:50.970 and welcome to the vanguard before spike 0:03:45.680,0:03:53.250 dr. Dre dull Cohen I am Matt Wright and 0:03:50.970,0:03:56.580 together we are traversing the muddied 0:03:53.250,0:03:59.520 waters of freedom I am so glad that I 0:03:56.580,0:04:04.110 don't look at your list of Jewish rap 0:03:59.520,0:04:05.430 names for me to intro me with each each 0:04:04.110,0:04:07.500 up so hey everybody how are you doing 0:04:05.430,0:04:07.980 welcome to the show thanks for joining 0:04:07.500,0:04:09.870 us 0:04:07.980,0:04:12.180 yeah thanks for joining us on this very 0:04:09.870,0:04:14.790 special Saturday episode of muddied 0:04:12.180,0:04:19.200 waters of freedom first and foremost oh 0:04:14.790,0:04:26.780 yeah allow me to thank casey nestor 0:04:19.200,0:04:34.010 campbell for the table today's episode 0:04:26.780,0:04:37.590 and allow me to thank krueger thean v 0:04:34.010,0:04:40.800 for my purify drinking water because i 0:04:37.590,0:04:43.050 can't i have the blue but i I don't feel 0:04:40.800,0:04:50.940 like getting him bula vinaka bula vinaka 0:04:43.050,0:04:52.890 oh well this has been quite a week it 0:04:50.940,0:04:56.580 has been such a week that we couldn't do 0:04:52.890,0:04:59.190 either of our episodes yeah so a lot of 0:04:56.580,0:05:01.530 fun we had a really long episode planned 0:04:59.190,0:05:05.160 for Tuesday and we had to cancel that at 0:05:01.530,0:05:09.030 the last minute and well we just added 0:05:05.160,0:05:12.030 stuff to it so I hope you folks like 0:05:09.030,0:05:15.030 long episodes is going to be super-sized 0:05:12.030,0:05:17.070 episode of the muddied waters of freedom 0:05:15.030,0:05:18.900 if you heard that there was a trump 0:05:17.070,0:05:20.150 rally this evening and you thought well 0:05:18.900,0:05:22.260 I don't want to do anything 0:05:20.150,0:05:23.910 hyper-partisan well I want to do 0:05:22.260,0:05:25.410 something that's very hyper partisan and 0:05:23.910,0:05:27.870 is gonna take Anna credible amount of 0:05:25.410,0:05:31.290 time but I don't like Donald Trump and I 0:05:27.870,0:05:33.180 don't want to leave my home you found 0:05:31.290,0:05:35.729 the right place today tonight because 0:05:33.180,0:05:37.650 that's we're gonna be spending hopefully 0:05:35.729,0:05:40.530 we do this in under the four hours that 0:05:37.650,0:05:43.410 you that Facebook cuts people off if 0:05:40.530,0:05:47.130 they take longer than that because this 0:05:43.410,0:05:49.080 is gonna take a while we've got a lot to 0:05:47.130,0:05:49.680 unpack on that this was a busy week and 0:05:49.080,0:05:53.039 a half 0:05:49.680,0:05:54.750 and there's a lot of stuff on here to 0:05:53.039,0:05:56.310 everyone watching we know you have the 0:05:54.750,0:05:58.410 option of listening to a strong 0:05:56.310,0:06:00.840 political candidate one who speaks to 0:05:58.410,0:06:03.389 the people one who talks about unifying 0:06:00.840,0:06:05.669 the country with radical ideas or you 0:06:03.389,0:06:09.410 could be watching Trump in front of 0:06:05.669,0:06:11.250 19,000 people so thank you for that 0:06:09.410,0:06:13.729 there are many different ways to 0:06:11.250,0:06:17.580 describe what Trump is doing right now I 0:06:13.729,0:06:18.750 certainly won't I know if it's right 0:06:17.580,0:06:21.600 even if it's written in the show notes 0:06:18.750,0:06:24.449 I'd yeah III put that in there and I 0:06:21.600,0:06:26.789 said I wonder if he's gonna read that 0:06:24.449,0:06:31.080 oh this episode is brought to you of 0:06:26.789,0:06:33.169 course by the libertarian dad bod 0:06:31.080,0:06:35.759 calendar featuring some of the sexiest 0:06:33.169,0:06:38.130 libertarian men to ever be libertarian 0:06:35.759,0:06:41.009 and male at the same time including this 0:06:38.130,0:06:41.960 beast of a man you see on your screen 0:06:41.009,0:06:45.509 right now 0:06:41.960,0:06:48.330 yours truly mr. 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0:09:56.040,0:09:59.370 more than that I don't normally we go 0:09:57.780,0:10:04.860 into hey how was your week what did you 0:09:59.370,0:10:07.620 do but you know I talk about my words my 0:10:04.860,0:10:10.350 week was great how was your week I mean 0:10:07.620,0:10:13.160 was good good all right speaking of 0:10:10.350,0:10:13.160 weeks 0:10:14.310,0:10:18.900 wait was this that oh no this was 0:10:16.440,0:10:21.240 already in here a officer Brent 0:10:18.900,0:10:23.400 Hankerson of the Louisville Police 0:10:21.240,0:10:25.920 Department the officer who murdered 0:10:23.400,0:10:28.980 Brianna Taylor during a no-knock raid 0:10:25.920,0:10:31.440 was fired from the Louisville Louisville 0:10:28.980,0:10:34.589 Police Department this week and as of 0:10:31.440,0:10:37.040 now 28 days after her murder he's not 0:10:34.589,0:10:40.320 actually been charged with anything and 0:10:37.040,0:10:43.040 nobody else has either but the 0:10:40.320,0:10:46.560 Louisville City Council unanimously 0:10:43.040,0:10:49.410 voted to pass Brianna's law which among 0:10:46.560,0:10:51.570 other things bans no-knock rates in the 0:10:49.410,0:10:55.350 city of Louisville also requires that 0:10:51.570,0:10:58.440 all officer interactions including the 0:10:55.350,0:11:00.779 carrying out of warrants of search 0:10:58.440,0:11:03.000 warrants have that they have to have 0:11:00.779,0:11:05.510 their body cam on if they want the 0:11:03.000,0:11:07.680 evidence to be to be admissible and 0:11:05.510,0:11:09.060 there were some other other things as 0:11:07.680,0:11:11.580 well so I mean it was a really good 0:11:09.060,0:11:13.260 police reform law and that had that 0:11:11.580,0:11:14.910 happened in the wake so I mean it's 0:11:13.260,0:11:16.350 terrible it's terrible that she was 0:11:14.910,0:11:19.830 murdered and that it took that to cause 0:11:16.350,0:11:21.570 this to happen but since she's already 0:11:19.830,0:11:24.180 been murdered it's good that as a result 0:11:21.570,0:11:25.620 of that in public outcry that you know 0:11:24.180,0:11:28.080 that this has happened if nothing else 0:11:25.620,0:11:30.720 but yep nope still not arrested for 0:11:28.080,0:11:32.040 murdering her what I what I have noticed 0:11:30.720,0:11:35.310 it's been a trend over the last few 0:11:32.040,0:11:38.070 weeks like moult seriously even even 0:11:35.310,0:11:40.550 before the George Floyd thing George 0:11:38.070,0:11:43.740 Floyd thing the George Floyd murder um 0:11:40.550,0:11:45.540 we have been saying this is a really 0:11:43.740,0:11:47.550 dark cloud but if you're looking for the 0:11:45.540,0:11:51.210 silver lining you at least have this and 0:11:47.550,0:11:53.520 that law is the faintest of silver 0:11:51.210,0:11:56.250 linings on yes exactly 0:11:53.520,0:11:59.940 yeah no it's it is it's a horrific thing 0:11:56.250,0:12:02.339 that we these events are absolute 0:11:59.940,0:12:04.560 nightmares and the most horrifying thing 0:12:02.339,0:12:06.690 is again watching people commit murder 0:12:04.560,0:12:09.480 and then get put on desk duty while they 0:12:06.690,0:12:10.800 investigate it and that's which is when 0:12:09.480,0:12:12.180 people say well you know there's other 0:12:10.800,0:12:14.339 you're more likely to get killed by 0:12:12.180,0:12:16.380 someone else than by a cop yeah and then 0:12:14.339,0:12:18.150 if they do it then people look for them 0:12:16.380,0:12:20.580 and they go to jail immediately and 0:12:18.150,0:12:23.870 they're tried and it's you know that's 0:12:20.580,0:12:27.810 the problem is if the police do it 0:12:23.870,0:12:29.279 there's a strong likelihood 0:12:27.810,0:12:30.810 they'll never see jail and there's a 0:12:29.279,0:12:34.260 decent likelihood they won't even get 0:12:30.810,0:12:35.670 fired for it or they'll get fired from 0:12:34.260,0:12:38.430 this department and then hired by 0:12:35.670,0:12:40.950 another one so and get rehired so it's 0:12:38.430,0:12:42.570 it is that is the problem not just that 0:12:40.950,0:12:44.310 the murders are happening it's that then 0:12:42.570,0:12:46.020 no one's held accountable for it so at 0:12:44.310,0:12:47.010 least some of these laws are passing and 0:12:46.020,0:12:49.680 hopefully it will prevent another 0:12:47.010,0:12:51.180 Brianna Taylor countless more from 0:12:49.680,0:12:53.370 happening I actually personally went out 0:12:51.180,0:12:56.070 and personally thanked by message I 0:12:53.370,0:12:58.339 found all of the pages and profiles of 0:12:56.070,0:13:00.210 the Louisville City Council members and 0:12:58.339,0:13:02.730 wrote that each one of them personally 0:13:00.210,0:13:04.470 thanking them for passing this and 0:13:02.730,0:13:06.810 voting for it and saying that you know 0:13:04.470,0:13:08.700 countless lives we'll never know how 0:13:06.810,0:13:10.650 many lives are saved as a result of it 0:13:08.700,0:13:20.100 so and then we're pretty receptive of 0:13:10.650,0:13:24.180 that well good yeah speaking of people 0:13:20.100,0:13:26.250 who are receptive a group calling 0:13:24.180,0:13:29.310 themselves Republican voters against 0:13:26.250,0:13:32.760 Trump released an ad with spikes 0:13:29.310,0:13:35.250 favorite Senator Lindsey Graham touting 0:13:32.760,0:13:38.250 Joe Biden and bashing Trump and has been 0:13:35.250,0:13:40.440 called the best campaign ad of all time 0:13:38.250,0:13:43.980 by a Bush advisor I was going to say by 0:13:40.440,0:13:48.030 who by ambush advisor yeah I bet I 0:13:43.980,0:13:50.550 believe the term supporters for a minute 0:13:48.030,0:13:53.490 it's Donald Trump's campaign about he's 0:13:50.550,0:13:55.890 a race-baiting xenophobic religious 0:13:53.490,0:13:58.200 bigot and you know how you make America 0:13:55.890,0:14:01.230 great again tell Donald Trump to go to 0:13:58.200,0:14:03.060 hell if you can admire Joe Biden as a 0:14:01.230,0:14:05.850 person that's probably you've got a 0:14:03.060,0:14:08.220 problem you need to do some 0:14:05.850,0:14:11.700 self-evaluation go some what's not to 0:14:08.220,0:14:14.180 like he is as good a man as God ever 0:14:11.700,0:14:16.830 created he got some of the most 0:14:14.180,0:14:20.160 incredibly heartfelt things that anybody 0:14:16.830,0:14:21.720 could ever say to me he's the nicest 0:14:20.160,0:14:26.190 person I think I've ever been involved 0:14:21.720,0:14:28.380 in this is a defining moment in the 0:14:26.190,0:14:30.029 future of the Republican Party we have 0:14:28.380,0:14:32.220 to reject this demagoguery 0:14:30.029,0:14:34.080 and if we don't reject Donald Trump 0:14:32.220,0:14:46.560 we've lost a moral authority in my view 0:14:34.080,0:14:48.810 to govern this great nation there is 0:14:46.560,0:14:50.940 someone who exists who thinks that that 0:14:48.810,0:14:54.330 is the greatest campaign ad of all time 0:14:50.940,0:14:56.100 of all time of all time now granted in 0:14:54.330,0:14:58.530 all of the articles that I read about 0:14:56.100,0:15:02.700 that ad which was multiple for such a 0:14:58.530,0:15:05.430 short segment only because I was I was 0:15:02.700,0:15:07.290 fascinated by it nobody ever mentioned 0:15:05.430,0:15:12.150 who it was just a former Bush advisor 0:15:07.290,0:15:15.060 and I said maybe but it might have been 0:15:12.150,0:15:17.400 like Bush it might have been like Jeb 0:15:15.060,0:15:20.250 Bush is like off the record best dad 0:15:17.400,0:15:24.350 ever ever my first of all I just want to 0:15:20.250,0:15:47.940 show this part again Trump supporters 0:15:24.350,0:15:49.650 campaign well these are from a from an 0:15:47.940,0:15:52.110 interview that he did with the 0:15:49.650,0:15:54.810 Huffington Post back in 2016 and it was 0:15:52.110,0:15:58.410 shortly after Trump gave his note and I 0:15:54.810,0:16:01.260 was shortly after Trump gave his phone 0:15:58.410,0:16:02.820 number out to everybody so it's 0:16:01.260,0:16:08.880 understandable that at the time was he 0:16:02.820,0:16:11.550 was very yeah this was a reason this was 0:16:08.880,0:16:15.720 yeah this was definitely not reason this 0:16:11.550,0:16:17.430 wasn't this wasn't recent but oh man but 0:16:15.720,0:16:22.230 you know the best way to make Joe Biden 0:16:17.430,0:16:24.320 palpable to people who don't like Joe 0:16:22.230,0:16:26.940 Biden is to include Lindsey Graham 0:16:24.320,0:16:28.500 Lindsey I think tarp was necessary 0:16:26.940,0:16:31.860 because the whole economy was going to 0:16:28.500,0:16:33.390 collapse and Burnett Bernanke Paulson 0:16:31.860,0:16:35.190 and everybody that I know quite frank 0:16:33.390,0:16:37.560 and quite frankly trust after Lehman 0:16:35.190,0:16:39.420 Brothers went down that if we had not 0:16:37.560,0:16:42.030 involved ourselves quickly you'd have a 0:16:39.420,0:16:44.430 financial meltdown Graham and I said is 0:16:42.030,0:16:47.040 this on because we have better other 0:16:44.430,0:16:50.420 quotes as well that's not part of them 0:16:47.040,0:16:56.760 okay yeah we do have better quotes okay 0:16:50.420,0:16:59.640 yes so we have here Oh in fact good news 0:16:56.760,0:17:01.319 we have some other quotes from him these 0:16:59.640,0:17:04.230 are really easy to read so I'm gonna I'm 0:17:01.319,0:17:06.329 gonna tune in here it's a free what we 0:17:04.230,0:17:08.910 can tune we can we can trade off so I'll 0:17:06.329,0:17:13.350 say the free speech is a great idea but 0:17:08.910,0:17:15.329 we're in a war right Rand Paul's saying 0:17:13.350,0:17:17.220 now that he wants this president to tell 0:17:15.329,0:17:19.290 him that he will not use a drone to kill 0:17:17.220,0:17:20.669 an American citizen sitting in a cafe 0:17:19.290,0:17:23.669 having a cup of coffee 0:17:20.669,0:17:25.589 who is not a combatant I find the 0:17:23.669,0:17:28.169 question offensive as much as I did 0:17:25.589,0:17:30.030 disagree with President Obama as much as 0:17:28.169,0:17:31.830 I support past presidents I do not 0:17:30.030,0:17:34.620 believe that question deserves an answer 0:17:31.830,0:17:38.010 it kind of does kind of does deserve an 0:17:34.620,0:17:41.030 answer we need to raise taxes to get our 0:17:38.010,0:17:41.030 nation out of debt 0:17:41.480,0:17:46.499 NCLB it was a historic effort to bring 0:17:44.309,0:17:48.179 about accountability to our schools No 0:17:46.499,0:17:49.769 Child Left Behind was a historic effort 0:17:48.179,0:17:51.690 to bring about accountability to our 0:17:49.769,0:17:54.119 schools and measure achievement and 0:17:51.690,0:17:55.830 progress of our students if you're just 0:17:54.119,0:18:00.059 tuning in this is Lindsey Graham that 0:17:55.830,0:18:02.279 we're we're are you cool I'm going to 0:18:00.059,0:18:04.559 vote with my party I just think oil 0:18:02.279,0:18:05.879 subsidies have to be part of a bigger 0:18:04.559,0:18:08.759 pact this is like the most 0:18:05.879,0:18:10.889 stereotypically terrible crony responses 0:18:08.759,0:18:13.759 to anything I just think oil subsidies 0:18:10.889,0:18:16.440 have to be a part of a bigger package 0:18:13.759,0:18:18.450 I'm a Verizon customer 0:18:16.440,0:18:20.399 I don't mind horizon turning over 0:18:18.450,0:18:21.960 records to the government if the 0:18:20.399,0:18:24.359 government is going to make sure that 0:18:21.960,0:18:26.190 they try to match up a known terrorist 0:18:24.359,0:18:28.559 phone with somebody in the United States 0:18:26.190,0:18:30.509 I don't think you're talking to the 0:18:28.559,0:18:33.059 terrorists I know you're not I know I'm 0:18:30.509,0:18:33.450 not so we don't have anything to worry 0:18:33.059,0:18:34.679 about 0:18:33.450,0:18:37.440 we don't have anything to worry about 0:18:34.679,0:18:38.669 from the government and when they say I 0:18:37.440,0:18:42.239 want my lawyer 0:18:38.669,0:18:46.700 you tell them shut up you don't get a 0:18:42.239,0:18:49.830 lawyer that one does not age well that 0:18:46.700,0:18:54.149 didn't start well right yeah no that one 0:18:49.830,0:18:56.190 that one does not start the whole 0:18:54.149,0:18:57.480 plotline of that one is awful I don't 0:18:56.190,0:19:00.269 know of a time where anyone would have 0:18:57.480,0:19:03.690 been like yeah that's how I felt too 0:19:00.269,0:19:06.809 before you said it right that's a valid 0:19:03.690,0:19:13.409 point I mean that's that is I mean but 0:19:06.809,0:19:15.600 that's Lindsey Graham didn't know it it 0:19:13.409,0:19:17.460 started poorly and kept going from there 0:19:15.600,0:19:19.590 it didn't really get worse it just sort 0:19:17.460,0:19:22.080 of plateaued at terrible you can't get 0:19:19.590,0:19:24.629 worse if you're already at the floor um 0:19:22.080,0:19:26.789 I like I like that he just is so proud 0:19:24.629,0:19:30.629 of saying things like we need more oil 0:19:26.789,0:19:38.239 subsidies yeah that's that's a that's a 0:19:30.629,0:19:41.239 good one so in a speaking of Republican 0:19:38.239,0:19:41.239 blows 0:19:42.910,0:19:46.420 in a blow to the conservative movement 0:19:44.620,0:19:49.530 in the in the u.s. the Supreme Court 0:19:46.420,0:19:51.790 ruled in a 6-3 ruling on Monday that 0:19:49.530,0:19:55.720 discriminating against an employee for 0:19:51.790,0:19:59.500 being gay or transgender violates the 0:19:55.720,0:20:01.960 Civil Rights Act of 1964 that's right 0:19:59.500,0:20:04.300 Neil Gorsuch wrote in the majority 0:20:01.960,0:20:06.520 decision that an employer which by the 0:20:04.300,0:20:09.040 way this pissed off so many of his 0:20:06.520,0:20:11.530 supporters may because he's more kind of 0:20:09.040,0:20:14.950 libertarian leaning in his conservative 0:20:11.530,0:20:16.720 slash libertarian leaning yeah right 0:20:14.950,0:20:18.460 wrote in the majority decision that an 0:20:16.720,0:20:20.590 employer who fires an individual for 0:20:18.460,0:20:22.900 being homosexual or transgender fires 0:20:20.590,0:20:24.790 that person for traits or actions it 0:20:22.900,0:20:28.240 would not have questioned and members of 0:20:24.790,0:20:31.120 a different sex sex plays a necessary 0:20:28.240,0:20:35.650 and undistinguishable role in the 0:20:31.120,0:20:39.100 decision exactly what Title 7 forbids so 0:20:35.650,0:20:44.440 here is the key thing here the Supreme 0:20:39.100,0:20:47.710 Court the Supreme Court whether you like 0:20:44.440,0:20:50.350 the outcome of this decision or not the 0:20:47.710,0:20:52.600 Supreme Court actually did its job this 0:20:50.350,0:20:56.290 time so rather than get into the weeds 0:20:52.600,0:20:58.630 of whether this was a good law or not 0:20:56.290,0:21:02.530 the Civil Rights Act what they did was 0:20:58.630,0:21:04.960 they read the law and they said how 0:21:02.530,0:21:08.440 should this be interpreted in this case 0:21:04.960,0:21:10.390 what is it saying here and what they 0:21:08.440,0:21:12.100 determined and I think I don't think 0:21:10.390,0:21:15.790 there's really any one that could argue 0:21:12.100,0:21:17.830 otherwise saying that you can't 0:21:15.790,0:21:19.960 discriminate against someone's sex and 0:21:17.830,0:21:23.950 then trying to say oh but that wouldn't 0:21:19.960,0:21:26.910 mean their gender or who they're 0:21:23.950,0:21:30.660 attracted to sexually it would just mean 0:21:26.910,0:21:34.530 basically what genitals they have I 0:21:30.660,0:21:37.420 think completely flies in the face of 0:21:34.530,0:21:40.090 the what anyone would take that to mean 0:21:37.420,0:21:42.250 and so that's what they determine and 0:21:40.090,0:21:44.950 that's where we are so it's one of those 0:21:42.250,0:21:47.350 if you don't like the act or you don't 0:21:44.950,0:21:49.480 like that provision in the act then 0:21:47.350,0:21:51.700 there has to be a legislative role there 0:21:49.480,0:21:54.130 as opposed to taking it to the court and 0:21:51.700,0:21:56.860 telling them to strike it down or to say 0:21:54.130,0:22:00.010 it doesn't apply the way it's 0:21:56.860,0:22:04.030 early clearly written so that's what 0:22:00.010,0:22:05.950 happened there just this is Alito Thomas 0:22:04.030,0:22:08.110 and Cavanaugh all wrote the cents on the 0:22:05.950,0:22:10.120 case and talked by the way 0:22:08.110,0:22:11.920 go ahead which is absolutely no shock 0:22:10.120,0:22:14.680 that those three wrote dissents on that 0:22:11.920,0:22:17.590 case or the Senate dissented on that 0:22:14.680,0:22:19.720 case it is shocking that all three of 0:22:17.590,0:22:21.310 them wrote the sentence on it especially 0:22:19.720,0:22:24.520 Thomas because and we're gonna be 0:22:21.310,0:22:29.740 getting into this later Clarence Thomas 0:22:24.520,0:22:34.240 has written more stuff in dissents in 0:22:29.740,0:22:37.480 majority opinions in the last actually I 0:22:34.240,0:22:39.640 think they were all dissents right I'm 0:22:37.480,0:22:42.100 pretty certain he's only written two 0:22:39.640,0:22:44.050 sensories yeah he he's written more 0:22:42.100,0:22:49.420 dissents in recent times than he has in 0:22:44.050,0:22:51.880 his entire like 30-year career or 27 0:22:49.420,0:22:55.680 year whatever it is 20 28 27 year career 0:22:51.880,0:22:58.660 it's actually kind of interesting how 0:22:55.680,0:23:01.510 how much he's been writing so it's and 0:22:58.660,0:23:03.280 and he's been writing a lot of stuff not 0:23:01.510,0:23:05.320 necessarily on this but in general stuff 0:23:03.280,0:23:07.330 that we are kind of like and how he's 0:23:05.320,0:23:08.140 writing it so right it's every time 0:23:07.330,0:23:12.790 talking about that 0:23:08.140,0:23:15.130 go ahead he um is famously quiet I think 0:23:12.790,0:23:16.540 right before this session 0:23:15.130,0:23:21.190 he had asked something like four 0:23:16.540,0:23:24.670 questions in 27 years and now he has 0:23:21.190,0:23:30.820 been asking questions in many of the 0:23:24.670,0:23:33.400 cases like he seems to he seems to be 0:23:30.820,0:23:35.140 becoming an active member a more active 0:23:33.400,0:23:36.880 member not saying he wasn't active 0:23:35.140,0:23:38.680 before but before he was just listening 0:23:36.880,0:23:41.200 and taking in and now he is actually 0:23:38.680,0:23:43.240 asking questions that the other justices 0:23:41.200,0:23:44.590 aren't asked aren't asking and that's 0:23:43.240,0:23:46.510 the thing so it makes you wonder if 0:23:44.590,0:23:47.830 maybe he's kind of changing his opinion 0:23:46.510,0:23:49.630 where he doesn't feel like the other 0:23:47.830,0:23:52.030 justices are already asking what he 0:23:49.630,0:23:53.260 wants to say and the direction he's kind 0:23:52.030,0:23:55.390 of taking at least when it comes to 0:23:53.260,0:23:58.300 issues of police brutality and 0:23:55.390,0:24:02.410 government power in general kind of 0:23:58.300,0:24:03.820 Lanka I mean it's I'm hesitant to say I 0:24:02.410,0:24:07.390 like where he's going with it but it's 0:24:03.820,0:24:09.610 it's been weird in general we're gonna 0:24:07.390,0:24:10.750 see what happens in the next well 0:24:09.610,0:24:12.310 definitely in the next 0:24:10.750,0:24:13.840 but I think there's a few more things 0:24:12.310,0:24:14.980 that are supposed to be coming out a few 0:24:13.840,0:24:18.370 more rulings they're supposed to be 0:24:14.980,0:24:21.570 coming out and we're gonna see where he 0:24:18.370,0:24:24.880 stands on those to see how if he's 0:24:21.570,0:24:29.500 becoming somebody we can like if he's 0:24:24.880,0:24:32.020 becoming a slash our guy slash um so 0:24:29.500,0:24:35.380 it's sorry real quick Chris Reynolds 0:24:32.020,0:24:37.270 just put in the in the comments 0:24:35.380,0:24:39.070 Thomas was literally asleep the last 0:24:37.270,0:24:42.660 time I was at the court to watch live 0:24:39.070,0:24:42.660 arguments yeah but when was that 0:24:43.290,0:24:48.040 cuz if it was the early 2000s then okay 0:24:46.810,0:24:52.030 because that's what we were just saying 0:24:48.040,0:24:55.120 but he's been maybe he needed a nap so 0:24:52.030,0:24:57.160 he could write stuff Chris it's not 0:24:55.120,0:24:59.920 always about you about that it's not 0:24:57.160,0:25:01.840 always about Chris speaking about things 0:24:59.920,0:25:03.670 that aren't about Chris Donald Trump 0:25:01.840,0:25:06.040 also took a bit of a personal setback 0:25:03.670,0:25:09.220 due to the Supreme Court after they 0:25:06.040,0:25:12.820 ruled that his executive order which 0:25:09.220,0:25:18.190 reversed daca which is the deferred 0:25:12.820,0:25:20.770 action for children oh no defer oh no 0:25:18.190,0:25:23.860 it's the program where they don't they 0:25:20.770,0:25:27.040 don't deport the children of illegal 0:25:23.860,0:25:29.080 immigrants if they stay if they report 0:25:27.040,0:25:31.570 and list themselves on the database and 0:25:29.080,0:25:36.430 report regularly to it deferred action 0:25:31.570,0:25:38.800 for childhood arrivals means and and so 0:25:36.430,0:25:43.240 they yeah they ruled that he it was 0:25:38.800,0:25:46.560 unconstitutional for him to to repeal 0:25:43.240,0:25:49.360 that to reverse it and now thankfully 0:25:46.560,0:25:52.720 and and they said that Obama's executive 0:25:49.360,0:25:56.170 order and acting daca was was not 0:25:52.720,0:25:58.660 unconstitutional so it's fine for Obama 0:25:56.170,0:26:00.880 to implement it early not for Trump to 0:25:58.660,0:26:03.360 use an executive order to implement it 0:26:00.880,0:26:06.010 but you cannot use an inoculation 0:26:03.360,0:26:10.600 executive orders are constitutionally no 0:26:06.010,0:26:13.270 backsies and and so Donald Trump being 0:26:10.600,0:26:16.780 the even-keel man that we know him to be 0:26:13.270,0:26:20.070 who never over reacts to anything of 0:26:16.780,0:26:23.260 course was very even-handed in his 0:26:20.070,0:26:24.519 response where he said the recent 0:26:23.260,0:26:27.159 Supreme Court decision 0:26:24.519,0:26:31.570 not only on Daka sanctuary cities census 0:26:27.159,0:26:34.299 and others tell you only one thing we 0:26:31.570,0:26:38.190 need new justices of the Supreme Court 0:26:34.299,0:26:42.009 if the radical left Democrats I 0:26:38.190,0:26:43.659 appointed assumed power your second 0:26:42.009,0:26:46.299 Amendment right to life secure borders 0:26:43.659,0:26:49.779 and religious liberty among many other 0:26:46.299,0:26:57.059 things are over and gone 0:26:49.779,0:27:02.919 if the two that I appointed keep voting 0:26:57.059,0:27:05.559 differently than I wanted them to then 0:27:02.919,0:27:07.599 the far left Democrats have one right 0:27:05.559,0:27:09.549 this of course feeds into the fact that 0:27:07.599,0:27:11.709 Donald Trump routinely appoints people 0:27:09.549,0:27:14.529 to things and then says that they were 0:27:11.709,0:27:17.200 terrible choices and horrible people who 0:27:14.529,0:27:21.789 should never be trusted which begs the 0:27:17.200,0:27:22.989 question why do you have Donald Trump 0:27:21.789,0:27:25.809 has a history of bringing people into 0:27:22.989,0:27:27.639 his life and saying they're the greatest 0:27:25.809,0:27:30.669 and then and then saying that they were 0:27:27.639,0:27:31.989 terrible and you know dogs and and you 0:27:30.669,0:27:33.369 know you can't trust them and and 0:27:31.989,0:27:36.940 they're terribly it's like like some of 0:27:33.369,0:27:38.379 you ladies out there huh huh no buts 0:27:36.940,0:27:41.919 anybody that's worked in the White House 0:27:38.379,0:27:44.849 under Trump has been the greatest has 0:27:41.919,0:27:48.239 been the greatest and then the worst 0:27:44.849,0:27:51.669 sometimes in the same week right 0:27:48.239,0:27:53.820 sometimes it skaara Moochie nice 0:27:51.669,0:27:56.919 Carlucci was perfect example he came in 0:27:53.820,0:28:00.579 like a wrecking ball I love Anthony 0:27:56.919,0:28:02.109 Skaar Moochie I've been sober for many 0:28:00.579,0:28:03.969 years now but if I wasn't I'd like to 0:28:02.109,0:28:07.919 hang out with him because he was on 0:28:03.969,0:28:10.629 something always he came in so hard 0:28:07.919,0:28:12.849 everyone he got a you know that 15 0:28:10.629,0:28:15.999 minutes of fame that Andy Warhol talked 0:28:12.849,0:28:18.789 about he got like a solid like short 0:28:15.999,0:28:22.829 week of fame everyone was talking about 0:28:18.789,0:28:27.519 the mooch and then and now he's gone 0:28:22.829,0:28:29.769 some say he's still with us but don't 0:28:27.519,0:28:31.659 know where but he he he thought it was 0:28:29.769,0:28:33.489 garbage he's doing it right now 0:28:31.659,0:28:34.809 I'm sure he's still alive but no one 0:28:33.489,0:28:36.669 knows what he's doing but he came in 0:28:34.809,0:28:38.080 everyone was talking about him for like 0:28:36.669,0:28:40.600 five days 0:28:38.080,0:28:44.500 and just couldn't stop and they got 0:28:40.600,0:28:47.160 fired he was gone we went from he's the 0:28:44.500,0:28:49.450 best guy he's just he's just fantastic - 0:28:47.160,0:28:52.240 he's the worst he's just absolutely 0:28:49.450,0:28:55.120 terrible yes terrible we got rid of him 0:28:52.240,0:28:59.380 yep you know it was perfect it was 0:28:55.120,0:29:03.670 perfect and speaking of the Supreme 0:28:59.380,0:29:06.280 Court pissing me off the other stuff and 0:29:03.670,0:29:08.500 all that worried about this was what we 0:29:06.280,0:29:10.120 expected honestly it's what we expected 0:29:08.500,0:29:13.660 to happen we were hopeful it wouldn't 0:29:10.120,0:29:15.730 but I you know I'm not gonna lie I 0:29:13.660,0:29:20.980 actually had high hopes I had high hopes 0:29:15.730,0:29:23.440 I I figured with everything going on 0:29:20.980,0:29:31.200 maybe possibly they would they would 0:29:23.440,0:29:33.640 take this up but yeah I know I know 0:29:31.200,0:29:37.500 it's like rooting for a third party you 0:29:33.640,0:29:41.620 know you get high hosts yeah high hopes 0:29:37.500,0:29:44.170 this time though so yesterday the court 0:29:41.620,0:29:50.110 decided whether or not it would grant a 0:29:44.170,0:29:53.560 writ of certiorari certiorari sir urrrr 0:29:50.110,0:29:55.480 on Baxter vs. Bracey 0:29:53.560,0:29:58.750 for anyone who doesn't know a writ of 0:29:55.480,0:30:00.520 sir is basically when the appeals court 0:29:58.750,0:30:04.210 or a party asked the Supreme Court to 0:30:00.520,0:30:07.120 review the appellate decision most of 0:30:04.210,0:30:11.670 the time they deny it and this isn't a 0:30:07.120,0:30:14.590 holding other than we aren't going what 0:30:11.670,0:30:16.720 this isn't a holding other than so what 0:30:14.590,0:30:19.540 they're saying there is we're just gonna 0:30:16.720,0:30:22.150 say whatever the lower court says okay 0:30:19.540,0:30:23.890 we're just gonna go with that as it was 0:30:22.150,0:30:25.770 described to me by personal injury 0:30:23.890,0:30:31.450 attorney Chris Reynolds attorney at law 0:30:25.770,0:30:34.170 this is like when kids this is like when 0:30:31.450,0:30:37.450 kids are bugging their parents for 0:30:34.170,0:30:43.750 dessert or to play video games or 0:30:37.450,0:30:45.190 whatever and the parents go No and it 0:30:43.750,0:30:47.440 goes back like then it just goes back 0:30:45.190,0:30:49.860 and then one of the kids shoots the 0:30:47.440,0:30:49.860 other two 0:30:51.600,0:31:00.460 so this isn't it is uh so this Baxter 0:30:56.799,0:31:03.820 versus Bracy it's a case of it was a 0:31:00.460,0:31:05.890 Tennessee man who was attacked by a dog 0:31:03.820,0:31:09.270 after surrendering surrendering to the 0:31:05.890,0:31:11.410 police so quick recap he wasn't in cuffs 0:31:09.270,0:31:13.840 he was sitting on the ground with his 0:31:11.410,0:31:17.410 hands in the air he had not been 0:31:13.840,0:31:21.040 detained yet I had previously said that 0:31:17.410,0:31:22.540 he was in cuffs I was wrong but he had 0:31:21.040,0:31:26.260 surrendered with his hands in the air 0:31:22.540,0:31:29.350 and so then instead the police said well 0:31:26.260,0:31:31.299 that's not enough they sent that k-9 0:31:29.350,0:31:35.910 after him and and he was mauled by the 0:31:31.299,0:31:39.960 dog and when in Indy in the original 0:31:35.910,0:31:44.590 argument is they found a similar case 0:31:39.960,0:31:46.419 and somebody had been arrested but they 0:31:44.590,0:31:47.740 surrendered beforehand and they still 0:31:46.419,0:31:52.780 got attacked by a dog and that one was 0:31:47.740,0:31:56.200 found to be excessive use of force that 0:31:52.780,0:31:58.330 person had lied down and put their hands 0:31:56.200,0:32:00.520 out and they said that that was the 0:31:58.330,0:32:02.500 difference-maker between excessive 0:32:00.520,0:32:04.330 courts and not excessive like literally 0:32:02.500,0:32:07.570 the exact same case but one person did 0:32:04.330,0:32:09.580 this and one person did this right how 0:32:07.570,0:32:11.710 could a police officer had known that 0:32:09.580,0:32:14.230 you can't SiC the cop on someone 0:32:11.710,0:32:15.309 surrendering like this just because they 0:32:14.230,0:32:17.140 already knew you couldn't do it if 0:32:15.309,0:32:20.530 they're like this this is what qualified 0:32:17.140,0:32:24.700 immunity is and that's why you know I 0:32:20.530,0:32:26.770 was recently asked on on on a call-in 0:32:24.700,0:32:28.150 show with Austin Peterson he asked me he 0:32:26.770,0:32:31.059 said you know don't you think it's great 0:32:28.150,0:32:33.880 that Donald Trump is passing executive 0:32:31.059,0:32:36.940 orders to stop police brutality and I 0:32:33.880,0:32:39.910 said well if you look at the order all 0:32:36.940,0:32:42.460 it did was give more training bad cops 0:32:39.910,0:32:45.490 don't need training to not murder and 0:32:42.460,0:32:48.010 otherwise maul and abuse people they 0:32:45.490,0:32:51.010 just need to be held accountable for 0:32:48.010,0:32:52.600 when they do or if they do which is they 0:32:51.010,0:32:54.460 is they deterrent for them to do it in 0:32:52.600,0:32:58.150 the first place and it's also a 0:32:54.460,0:33:00.010 deterrent for good cops to not step in 0:32:58.150,0:33:03.190 and stop them because they can be held 0:33:00.010,0:33:04.690 accountable too and so I said if Donald 0:33:03.190,0:33:06.700 Trump was serious you 0:33:04.690,0:33:10.990 be calling for everyone to co-sponsor 0:33:06.700,0:33:13.000 and vote for you know the Justin Amash 0:33:10.990,0:33:15.070 is called ending qualified immunity act 0:33:13.000,0:33:16.000 so he can sign it and make it the law as 0:33:15.070,0:33:20.380 soon as possible 0:33:16.000,0:33:21.820 yep but he did so so the court even with 0:33:20.380,0:33:23.440 all that's going on in the world with 0:33:21.820,0:33:26.980 protests around the country around the 0:33:23.440,0:33:29.320 world actually around the world and in 0:33:26.980,0:33:31.270 everywhere yeah this is the entire world 0:33:29.320,0:33:33.490 is saying enough already to this that 0:33:31.270,0:33:35.020 the people who presume it already over 0:33:33.490,0:33:37.240 us and are putting people in charge of 0:33:35.020,0:33:39.130 telling us what to do need to have some 0:33:37.240,0:33:41.410 basic we need to have basic protections 0:33:39.130,0:33:43.960 against over abuse and use of force 0:33:41.410,0:33:47.680 against us and despite all of that they 0:33:43.960,0:33:49.390 denied the writ of certiorari and this 0:33:47.680,0:33:52.000 means that there is no argument in 0:33:49.390,0:33:55.330 support of the decision but if anyone 0:33:52.000,0:33:57.970 wishes they can write a dissent in that 0:33:55.330,0:34:00.520 right Matt that's right it's sort of 0:33:57.970,0:34:03.310 like when you know you ask your parents 0:34:00.520,0:34:05.830 for something and they say no you can 0:34:03.310,0:34:06.690 argue if you want it doesn't mean 0:34:05.830,0:34:09.970 anything 0:34:06.690,0:34:11.590 Clarence Thomas took this opportunity 0:34:09.970,0:34:15.840 and wrote a dissent on the decision 0:34:11.590,0:34:19.150 which probably the best rid of certain 0:34:15.840,0:34:24.390 man certiorari certiorari I have ever 0:34:19.150,0:34:26.650 read oddly enough possibly the only 0:34:24.390,0:34:28.090 justice gave the history going into much 0:34:26.650,0:34:31.420 more depth than we did a couple of weeks 0:34:28.090,0:34:34.870 ago on our show of qualified immunity so 0:34:31.420,0:34:36.660 based on his dissent of the decision we 0:34:34.870,0:34:39.190 go back immediately to the Civil War 0:34:36.660,0:34:41.710 when the 13th 14th and 15th amendments 0:34:39.190,0:34:44.110 were ratified in order to ensure there 0:34:41.710,0:34:46.930 was no abuse against certain individual 0:34:44.110,0:34:47.890 rights read into that whatever you will 0:34:46.930,0:34:50.320 yep 0:34:47.890,0:34:52.420 and he wrote armed with its new 0:34:50.320,0:34:55.240 enforcement powers Congress sought to 0:34:52.420,0:34:57.400 respond to the reign of terror imposed 0:34:55.240,0:34:59.500 by the Klan upon black citizens and 0:34:57.400,0:35:02.040 their white sympathizers in the southern 0:34:59.500,0:35:05.700 states Congress passed a statute 0:35:02.040,0:35:09.430 variously known as the ku klux Act of 0:35:05.700,0:35:13.660 1871 the Civil Rights Act of 1871 in the 0:35:09.430,0:35:17.650 Enforcement Act of 1871 section one now 0:35:13.660,0:35:18.430 codified as Amendment whatever provided 0:35:17.650,0:35:21.550 that 0:35:18.430,0:35:24.430 any person who under color of any law 0:35:21.550,0:35:27.550 statue ordinance regulation custom or 0:35:24.430,0:35:30.550 usage of any state shall subject or 0:35:27.550,0:35:32.589 cause to be subjected any person within 0:35:30.550,0:35:34.480 the jurisdiction of the United States to 0:35:32.589,0:35:36.250 the deprivation of any rights privileges 0:35:34.480,0:35:38.500 or immunities secured by the 0:35:36.250,0:35:41.230 Constitution of the United States shall 0:35:38.500,0:35:44.650 be liable to the party injured in any 0:35:41.230,0:35:48.220 action at law suit in equity or other 0:35:44.650,0:35:49.599 proper proceeding for redress or in 0:35:48.220,0:35:52.720 today's terms 0:35:49.599,0:35:55.690 it states that individuals have a right 0:35:52.720,0:35:59.319 to sue state officers so politicians 0:35:55.690,0:36:00.990 police government officials for damages 0:35:59.319,0:36:03.670 when their rights have been violated 0:36:00.990,0:36:05.920 right and there's no mention of defense 0:36:03.670,0:36:08.050 or immunities or qualification of 0:36:05.920,0:36:10.599 immunities as Thomas says applies 0:36:08.050,0:36:12.730 categorically to the deprivation of 0:36:10.599,0:36:15.280 constitutional rights under color of 0:36:12.730,0:36:17.500 state law so it had nothing to do these 0:36:15.280,0:36:21.280 things that were introduced later well 0:36:17.500,0:36:29.619 I'm gonna let Matt talk about it so for 0:36:21.280,0:36:31.660 the first century of this law sorry I 0:36:29.619,0:36:34.030 get really excited when Chris Reynolds 0:36:31.660,0:36:36.460 gets excited about like the legal stuff 0:36:34.030,0:36:38.559 I don't it's most exciting part of the 0:36:36.460,0:36:41.650 show it is the most exciting part of the 0:36:38.559,0:36:43.510 show for Chris for the first century of 0:36:41.650,0:36:45.940 this law no immunity was recognized 0:36:43.510,0:36:48.250 under this law and in fact rejected that 0:36:45.940,0:36:53.020 the plaintiff must prove malice to 0:36:48.250,0:36:57.490 recover in the 1950s this court began to 0:36:53.020,0:36:59.740 ask whether the common law in 1871 would 0:36:57.490,0:37:03.339 have a courted immunity to an officer 0:36:59.740,0:37:07.390 for a tort analogous to the plaintiffs 0:37:03.339,0:37:09.790 claim under section 1983 the court for 0:37:07.390,0:37:11.829 example recognized absolute immunity for 0:37:09.790,0:37:14.319 legislators because it concluded 0:37:11.829,0:37:16.960 Congress had not and Penge down a 0:37:14.319,0:37:19.299 tradition of legislative immunity so 0:37:16.960,0:37:22.059 well grounded in history and reason by 0:37:19.299,0:37:24.849 covert inclusion in the general language 0:37:22.059,0:37:27.099 the court also extended a qualified 0:37:24.849,0:37:30.270 defense of good faith and probable cause 0:37:27.099,0:37:32.270 to police officers sued for unconstitu 0:37:30.270,0:37:34.910 unconstitutional arrest and the 0:37:32.270,0:37:38.180 mention the court derived this defense 0:37:34.910,0:37:44.390 from the background of tort liability in 0:37:38.180,0:37:46.400 51 1967 hmm I wonder what was going on 0:37:44.390,0:37:49.300 that would have led to lots of police 0:37:46.400,0:37:53.300 officers and people in government 0:37:49.300,0:37:54.610 abusing people's rights in the 1950s and 0:37:53.300,0:38:01.280 1960s 0:37:54.610,0:38:05.660 probably nothing that's not a funny joke 0:38:01.280,0:38:08.840 but man that's a funny joke I'm sure it 0:38:05.660,0:38:12.860 was just a coincidence that in the 1950s 0:38:08.840,0:38:16.010 and 1960s the federal government started 0:38:12.860,0:38:20.000 telling state officials mostly that they 0:38:16.010,0:38:22.300 could do whatever they wanted to anyone 0:38:20.000,0:38:22.300 in particular 0:38:24.940,0:38:30.650 that's awful coincidental and probably 0:38:27.650,0:38:33.230 has no other context behind why that 0:38:30.650,0:38:37.370 would be happening in the 1950s and 0:38:33.230,0:38:41.030 1960s Matt John hurt Lee says damned 0:38:37.370,0:38:43.100 rock music that was definitely to combat 0:38:41.030,0:38:44.060 rock rock music that's right Elvis 0:38:43.100,0:38:47.840 Presley 0:38:44.060,0:38:51.560 Little Richard ruined everything 0:38:47.840,0:38:54.580 Elvis Presley did all of this this is 0:38:51.560,0:39:00.830 all Elvis Elvis did qualified immunity 0:38:54.580,0:39:03.650 right insurer verse Rhodes without 0:39:00.830,0:39:05.750 considering the common law the court 0:39:03.650,0:39:07.520 remanded for the application of 0:39:05.750,0:39:10.550 qualified immunity doctrine to state 0:39:07.520,0:39:15.490 executive officials National Guard 0:39:10.550,0:39:18.110 members and a university president a 0:39:15.490,0:39:21.680 university president I wonder what was 0:39:18.110,0:39:24.860 happening in the 1970s with the National 0:39:21.680,0:39:27.890 Guard and university presidents that 0:39:24.860,0:39:31.460 could have potentially led for example 0:39:27.890,0:39:33.860 in Kent State - I just wonder maybe some 0:39:31.460,0:39:35.690 people might not get the reference like 0:39:33.860,0:39:37.790 I'm pretty certain our audience gets 0:39:35.690,0:39:39.460 that right I'm hoping I would hope most 0:39:37.790,0:39:44.450 of you would have gotten that reference 0:39:39.460,0:39:46.130 but this is and I wound up using people 0:39:44.450,0:39:49.269 and the end of 0:39:46.130,0:39:51.230 it's Supreme Court stepping in and going 0:39:49.269,0:39:53.990 that's all right 0:39:51.230,0:39:56.000 all right and I want everybody know the 0:39:53.990,0:39:59.869 way this is worded it is not university 0:39:56.000,0:40:07.549 presidents it is a university president 0:39:59.869,0:40:09.440 I could just the one yeah I copied and 0:40:07.549,0:40:14.720 pasted that list of people just so I 0:40:09.440,0:40:18.380 made sure it was correct so not the 0:40:14.720,0:40:20.059 other ones I'm certain now that there's 0:40:18.380,0:40:22.490 precedent they are but in this 0:40:20.059,0:40:28.130 particular case it was wasn't that one 0:40:22.490,0:40:30.230 right it was just that one so now they 0:40:28.130,0:40:32.180 were handing it out to almost anybody 0:40:30.230,0:40:33.980 who requested it now qualified immunity 0:40:32.180,0:40:36.759 was going everywhere they were just 0:40:33.980,0:40:38.930 handing it out like Oprah at her show oh 0:40:36.759,0:40:40.930 I should have made a thing you get a 0:40:38.930,0:40:43.519 qualified immunity you get an immediate 0:40:40.930,0:40:47.299 and everyone in the audience is shooting 0:40:43.519,0:40:49.519 people right it based the availability 0:40:47.299,0:40:51.230 of immunity on practical considerations 0:40:49.519,0:40:53.390 about the scope of discretion and 0:40:51.230,0:40:55.519 responsibilities of the office in all 0:40:53.390,0:40:57.769 the circumstances as they reasonably 0:40:55.519,0:41:00.380 appeared at the time of the action on 0:40:57.769,0:41:02.839 which liability is sought to be based 0:41:00.380,0:41:06.980 rather than the liability of officers 0:41:02.839,0:41:10.789 for god I hate that word analogous thank 0:41:06.980,0:41:13.519 you common law torts in 1871 the court 0:41:10.789,0:41:15.680 soon dispensed entirely with context 0:41:13.519,0:41:19.329 specific analysis extending qualified 0:41:15.680,0:41:22.309 immunity to a hospital superintendent 0:41:19.329,0:41:25.779 sued for deprivation of the right to 0:41:22.309,0:41:29.539 Liberty so instead of using the law as 0:41:25.779,0:41:32.000 the standard of whether or not someone 0:41:29.539,0:41:34.700 would get sued for abusing the rights of 0:41:32.000,0:41:35.180 others if they were a government 0:41:34.700,0:41:38.930 official 0:41:35.180,0:41:41.359 instead they started saying well did 0:41:38.930,0:41:43.609 they think it was reasonable right 0:41:41.359,0:41:46.250 imagine you going to court and I've said 0:41:43.609,0:41:47.720 this many times on product 15 podcasts 0:41:46.250,0:41:49.549 and interviews and call ins and 0:41:47.720,0:41:52.579 everything imagine you go to court and 0:41:49.549,0:41:55.700 you say Your Honor I know I've been 0:41:52.579,0:41:57.769 charged with this horrific crime but I 0:41:55.700,0:41:59.930 think what I did was perfectly 0:41:57.769,0:42:02.810 reasonable and that 0:41:59.930,0:42:05.740 goes oh well then charges dismissed 0:42:02.810,0:42:08.720 that's qualified immunity right 0:42:05.740,0:42:10.340 that's literally what this is that's why 0:42:08.720,0:42:12.050 we're so fired if you've never heard of 0:42:10.340,0:42:14.390 qualified immunity before and you see 0:42:12.050,0:42:15.860 all these like libertarians and black 0:42:14.390,0:42:17.930 lives matter activists and police 0:42:15.860,0:42:19.340 brutality activists and you know civil 0:42:17.930,0:42:21.260 liberties acumen and we're all going in 0:42:19.340,0:42:23.180 qualified immunity and you're like okay 0:42:21.260,0:42:23.870 what is it that's why we're this worked 0:42:23.180,0:42:26.270 up about it 0:42:23.870,0:42:28.010 right I mean we're edgy in general but 0:42:26.270,0:42:31.580 that's why we're specifically worked up 0:42:28.010,0:42:35.900 about this is because it is why bad 0:42:31.580,0:42:39.410 police do what they want and it's why 0:42:35.900,0:42:40.880 police that don't want to do that just 0:42:39.410,0:42:42.560 kind of stand back and let it happen 0:42:40.880,0:42:47.570 because they know no one's gonna be held 0:42:42.560,0:42:49.250 accountable for it even civilly no one 0:42:47.570,0:42:53.720 is going to be held accountable for it 0:42:49.250,0:42:56.270 so ending qualified immunity deters bad 0:42:53.720,0:42:59.030 policing and it holds bad police 0:42:56.270,0:43:01.730 accountable and it incentivizes good 0:42:59.030,0:43:03.080 policing if for no other reason that 0:43:01.730,0:43:07.490 you're out there and you're going hey 0:43:03.080,0:43:09.830 Mark don't kneel on that guy's neck and 0:43:07.490,0:43:12.680 he goes well I want to and you go well 0:43:09.830,0:43:14.960 I'm also here as a police officer and if 0:43:12.680,0:43:18.050 I don't stop mark from slowly murdering 0:43:14.960,0:43:20.630 this man I can be held liable to because 0:43:18.050,0:43:22.700 I don't have qualified immunity so I'm 0:43:20.630,0:43:25.040 gonna have to treat this officer the 0:43:22.700,0:43:27.380 same way I treat anyone else if I saw 0:43:25.040,0:43:32.030 them kneeling on someone's neck in a non 0:43:27.380,0:43:35.000 defensive way which is what we want we 0:43:32.030,0:43:37.820 want the police to be treating other 0:43:35.000,0:43:41.090 police the same way they treat you and 0:43:37.820,0:43:44.270 me hey you're harming someone you better 0:43:41.090,0:43:46.460 stop and if you don't stop I'm gonna 0:43:44.270,0:43:49.310 have to arrest you because that's my job 0:43:46.460,0:43:50.530 to arrest people that do harmful things 0:43:49.310,0:43:52.730 to each other 0:43:50.530,0:43:56.510 that's what qua ending qualified 0:43:52.730,0:43:59.750 immunity gets us is allowing for good 0:43:56.510,0:44:05.570 police to be incentivized to do their 0:43:59.750,0:44:09.380 job a couple of weeks ago in Harlow 0:44:05.570,0:44:11.420 versus Gerald 1982 yes court eliminated 0:44:09.380,0:44:13.890 from the qualified immunity inquiry any 0:44:11.420,0:44:15.630 subjective analysis of good faith 0:44:13.890,0:44:18.210 a summary judgment and avoid the 0:44:15.630,0:44:22.560 substantial cost that attended the 0:44:18.210,0:44:25.170 litigation of subjective intent this is 0:44:22.560,0:44:27.900 where we came up with the test where the 0:44:25.170,0:44:30.270 two Krong test of did they mean any harm 0:44:27.900,0:44:31.530 by it did they know that it was wrong I 0:44:30.270,0:44:34.400 can't remember what the two are off the 0:44:31.530,0:44:37.320 top of my head right right right but 0:44:34.400,0:44:39.870 that is where we get this test from it's 0:44:37.320,0:44:46.770 the substantive orde the substantial 0:44:39.870,0:44:49.470 costs that attend the litigation of 0:44:46.770,0:44:52.290 murdering someone right of murdering 0:44:49.470,0:44:54.420 somebody basically it's insurance not 0:44:52.290,0:44:56.790 insurance company car companies where 0:44:54.420,0:44:58.770 they are trying to figure out does the 0:44:56.790,0:45:03.500 cost of a recall outweigh the cost of 0:44:58.770,0:45:05.790 all the lawsuits does firing this guy 0:45:03.500,0:45:09.390 outweigh the cost of what we might have 0:45:05.790,0:45:11.880 to pay exactly cost-benefit analysis in 0:45:09.390,0:45:15.300 police departments right now is it costs 0:45:11.880,0:45:17.040 more to fight the police unions than to 0:45:15.300,0:45:19.050 just let the guy keep killing people in 0:45:17.040,0:45:21.810 the streets if you're in qualified 0:45:19.050,0:45:26.400 immunity that flips around that inverts 0:45:21.810,0:45:30.510 now it costs way more to keep that bad 0:45:26.400,0:45:31.890 cop on the streets than it does to fight 0:45:30.510,0:45:33.960 the police unions and get rid of them 0:45:31.890,0:45:36.000 now police unions whole other problems 0:45:33.960,0:45:38.100 to deal with but even before that just 0:45:36.000,0:45:40.530 any qualified immunity not only does it 0:45:38.100,0:45:42.000 make the bet that the good cops stop the 0:45:40.530,0:45:44.160 bad cops because they don't want to get 0:45:42.000,0:45:47.300 sued but the police department's 0:45:44.160,0:45:49.500 themselves are looking at this and going 0:45:47.300,0:45:51.090 it's gonna cost a fortune keeping this 0:45:49.500,0:45:53.220 guy around we got to get rid of them the 0:45:51.090,0:45:56.100 first time they do something far before 0:45:53.220,0:45:58.680 murder because if you look Derek Chauvin 0:45:56.100,0:46:00.510 who murdered George Floyd seventeen 0:45:58.680,0:46:02.820 previous counts what do you want to bet 0:46:00.510,0:46:03.840 they weren't all murder there was one 0:46:02.820,0:46:08.220 that was murdered but there were other 0:46:03.840,0:46:11.010 ones that were you know he beat someone 0:46:08.220,0:46:12.690 up or he held them too long or he you 0:46:11.010,0:46:14.640 know whatever he was doing stuff and 0:46:12.690,0:46:17.130 over time he became emboldened because 0:46:14.640,0:46:18.720 he found out I am a cop and there's no 0:46:17.130,0:46:21.930 immunity I have full immunity I can do 0:46:18.720,0:46:24.300 whatever I want there was um oh god what 0:46:21.930,0:46:26.700 was that guy's name we showed the video 0:46:24.300,0:46:27.569 a couple of weeks ago and then it was in 0:46:26.700,0:46:31.529 the intro 0:46:27.569,0:46:33.390 last week he was a cop out of LA and he 0:46:31.529,0:46:35.999 was beating a suspect that was in oh 0:46:33.390,0:46:38.190 yeah yeah yeah just wheeling on this guy 0:46:35.999,0:46:42.380 he already Adam in handcuffs and he just 0:46:38.190,0:46:43.979 starts beating him yeah it was the Zoey 0:46:42.380,0:46:46.529 Zuri Zuri 0:46:43.979,0:46:50.809 yeah sorry Davis talk yeah she had it on 0:46:46.529,0:46:53.849 hers he had had some some wrongful death 0:46:50.809,0:46:56.099 allegations against him right but he had 0:46:53.849,0:46:57.329 he will fight immunity he was the guy 0:46:56.099,0:46:59.640 who shot somebody in his front yard 0:46:57.329,0:47:01.140 right yep shot someone in their front 0:46:59.640,0:47:03.180 yard who was like having an argument 0:47:01.140,0:47:05.729 with his family and he didn't speak 0:47:03.180,0:47:08.819 English right and that wasn't acceptable 0:47:05.729,0:47:10.289 he also he also shot a guy who had 0:47:08.819,0:47:12.690 absolutely nothing to do with it he was 0:47:10.289,0:47:14.519 just outside yeah there was yes so he 0:47:12.690,0:47:17.549 shot someone who was recording it and 0:47:14.519,0:47:20.670 then tried to arrest him for having like 0:47:17.549,0:47:22.880 a like a water gun or some ridiculous 0:47:20.670,0:47:25.170 thing right and said it was a weapon 0:47:22.880,0:47:26.729 right and he didn't have it on him and 0:47:25.170,0:47:28.979 he ended up getting those charges 0:47:26.729,0:47:30.690 dropped if he wouldn't sue yeah he 0:47:28.979,0:47:35.309 wouldn't he didn't have it on him it was 0:47:30.690,0:47:38.369 in his house so he was told to to leave 0:47:35.309,0:47:40.709 and so the guy left and he shot at him 0:47:38.369,0:47:44.339 and then when it followed him into his 0:47:40.709,0:47:47.670 house and arrested him for for having a 0:47:44.339,0:47:50.279 weapon and assaulting an officer he 0:47:47.670,0:47:53.549 walked from the officer after getting 0:47:50.279,0:47:56.279 shot at and had a like squirt gun in his 0:47:53.549,0:47:59.279 house this is what qualified immunity 0:47:56.279,0:48:01.859 brings you it brings you terrible police 0:47:59.279,0:48:03.599 officers and and police departments ago 0:48:01.859,0:48:05.219 it's not worth getting rid of them it's 0:48:03.599,0:48:07.859 gonna cost way more to fight the unions 0:48:05.219,0:48:10.739 and martin's not costing any us anything 0:48:07.859,0:48:13.589 to keep them and it and the good cops 0:48:10.739,0:48:15.029 that are there say I'm not gonna upset 0:48:13.589,0:48:17.219 the applecart I know that nothing's 0:48:15.029,0:48:19.709 gonna change anyway and I'm not gonna be 0:48:17.219,0:48:21.630 held liable for it in fact I have much 0:48:19.709,0:48:23.369 more problems if I try to stop this guy 0:48:21.630,0:48:25.890 whereas if you if you were going 0:48:23.369,0:48:30.150 community's sorry Franklin days is the 0:48:25.890,0:48:32.130 cop thank you to periscope user krka SP 0:48:30.150,0:48:34.799 what was his name okay all right 0:48:32.130,0:48:39.119 carnitas yeah yeah yeah yeah and thank 0:48:34.799,0:48:41.310 you for the 33 super hearts from care 0:48:39.119,0:48:42.570 KSP yes 0:48:41.310,0:48:45.840 now we have to find out what that means 0:48:42.570,0:48:47.490 I don't know what that means I'm excited 0:48:45.840,0:48:49.920 though thank you very much for the 33 0:48:47.490,0:48:53.190 super arts we should probably know what 0:48:49.920,0:48:55.080 those are real if you want to tell us 0:48:53.190,0:48:57.240 what you just did I would appreciate it 0:48:55.080,0:48:59.820 we would appreciate it to stop us from 0:48:57.240,0:49:01.230 having to research it this is not the 0:48:59.820,0:49:04.440 first time Clarence Thomas has voiced 0:49:01.230,0:49:06.330 his opinion to qualified immunity he has 0:49:04.440,0:49:07.710 said in the past our analysis is no 0:49:06.330,0:49:16.470 longer grounded in the common law 0:49:07.710,0:49:18.030 backdrop no I was like wait our analysis 0:49:16.470,0:49:20.100 is no longer grounded in the common law 0:49:18.030,0:49:24.740 backdrop which the Congress and that 0:49:20.100,0:49:29.010 which Congress enacted the 1871 act yep 0:49:24.740,0:49:31.950 so from the time of 1871 up until the 0:49:29.010,0:49:34.680 80s there was no case where they were 0:49:31.950,0:49:36.600 held liable to the so called clearly 0:49:34.680,0:49:40.620 established law test they were supposed 0:49:36.600,0:49:42.720 to be grounded in yep nope they were 0:49:40.620,0:49:44.330 given a one-size-fits-all approach to 0:49:42.720,0:49:48.120 every case when it comes to these cases 0:49:44.330,0:49:49.890 granting immunity blindly to the 0:49:48.120,0:49:54.540 offenders now that's what they have now 0:49:49.890,0:49:56.220 for the first hundred and ten years and 0:49:54.540,0:49:58.740 even before that I mean for the first at 0:49:56.220,0:50:00.470 least a hundred years if you violated 0:49:58.740,0:50:03.750 someone's constitutional rights and 0:50:00.470,0:50:06.710 there wasn't any they couldn't find any 0:50:03.750,0:50:09.470 reasonable reason based on common law 0:50:06.710,0:50:13.460 that you would have to do such a thing 0:50:09.470,0:50:15.150 you were held accountable then it 0:50:13.460,0:50:17.040 coincidentally around the time that 0:50:15.150,0:50:19.610 police started brutalizing and 0:50:17.040,0:50:22.860 government officials started brutalizing 0:50:19.610,0:50:27.060 civil rights protesters and anti-war 0:50:22.860,0:50:30.270 protesters all of a sudden the police 0:50:27.060,0:50:33.300 had immunity and that immunity has been 0:50:30.270,0:50:35.400 strengthened with each new decision with 0:50:33.300,0:50:39.060 the most recent one being in 2001 where 0:50:35.400,0:50:42.930 they said even if you can't possibly say 0:50:39.060,0:50:46.430 that this was reasonable and even if we 0:50:42.930,0:50:50.220 already have precedent in your your 0:50:46.430,0:50:53.310 jurisdiction of that of a similar thing 0:50:50.220,0:50:54.210 it has to be exactly like it or we're 0:50:53.310,0:50:55.030 still going to give you qualified 0:50:54.210,0:50:58.990 immunity I 0:50:55.030,0:51:02.800 wonder what happened in 2001 that would 0:50:58.990,0:51:10.150 have led to more police brutality moving 0:51:02.800,0:51:15.340 forward well it would have been what 0:51:10.150,0:51:19.570 happened in 2000 or before no but the 0:51:15.340,0:51:20.920 justification for that still wouldn't 0:51:19.570,0:51:37.210 make sense because it would have come 0:51:20.920,0:51:45.400 out in June they knew so they let you 0:51:37.210,0:51:49.440 sit in that one for a second so I mean 0:51:45.400,0:51:49.440 we could just keep going yeah we could 0:51:54.060,0:52:01.000 so obviously Clarence Thomas not a fan 0:51:57.700,0:52:03.280 of qualified immunity absolutely wants 0:52:01.000,0:52:06.610 to redress it and actually put some 0:52:03.280,0:52:08.170 guidelines on it and saying you we need 0:52:06.610,0:52:12.640 to do this we can't do this like 0:52:08.170,0:52:14.860 whatever not a huge fan of the guy 0:52:12.640,0:52:16.600 played if he's gone if he wants rulings 0:52:14.860,0:52:19.870 like this I am supporting him on this 0:52:16.600,0:52:22.210 ruling on this subject he seems pretty 0:52:19.870,0:52:26.980 pitch-perfect about it I mean he gets it 0:52:22.210,0:52:29.530 he gets that the Congress was very clear 0:52:26.980,0:52:31.060 not just is it the right thing to do but 0:52:29.530,0:52:32.110 again we were you know our previous 0:52:31.060,0:52:34.120 thing that we talked about the court 0:52:32.110,0:52:36.070 decision they were very clear on the 0:52:34.120,0:52:37.990 transgender thing with with the Civil 0:52:36.070,0:52:39.730 Rights Act instead of deciding and 0:52:37.990,0:52:41.650 trying to legislate they just looked at 0:52:39.730,0:52:44.530 the law and said how can we interpret 0:52:41.650,0:52:46.990 this if you read it the Civil Rights Act 0:52:44.530,0:52:49.630 of 1871 it doesn't say anything about 0:52:46.990,0:52:53.020 immunity if you look at the precedent up 0:52:49.630,0:52:55.270 until the the court started legislating 0:52:53.020,0:52:57.280 from the bench it done there was no 0:52:55.270,0:52:58.840 reference to immunity it wasn't applied 0:52:57.280,0:53:02.470 with any kind of immunity there was no 0:52:58.840,0:53:03.970 idea of you know objective which they 0:53:02.470,0:53:06.130 call it objective but it's actually 0:53:03.970,0:53:08.080 subjective determination from the 0:53:06.130,0:53:08.839 officers whether or not what they did 0:53:08.080,0:53:10.880 was reasonable 0:53:08.839,0:53:14.299 was none of that that's all been added 0:53:10.880,0:53:16.609 by courts looking to cover for abusive 0:53:14.299,0:53:17.479 government officials and police that's 0:53:16.609,0:53:21.309 all it is 0:53:17.479,0:53:21.309 and so he's under percent right on this 0:53:21.609,0:53:26.180 yes not only was he a hundred percent 0:53:24.529,0:53:28.869 right on that hang on a second I got a 0:53:26.180,0:53:28.869 refill 0:53:30.729,0:53:34.099 we should have some lake we should have 0:53:32.989,0:53:36.170 because especially once you start 0:53:34.099,0:53:37.670 drinking the black coffee we should 0:53:36.170,0:53:39.380 probably have some like music for when 0:53:37.670,0:53:41.239 you're refilling your beverage we just 0:53:39.380,0:53:43.789 play like like something thanks some 0:53:41.239,0:53:45.619 music black coffee at nine o'clock at 0:53:43.789,0:53:50.539 night you're insane we got to do with 0:53:45.619,0:53:54.229 the one time be fun like the Matt 0:53:50.539,0:53:55.789 tacular that's gonna be a good time but 0:53:54.229,0:53:57.559 yeah not the only time he was wrong that 0:53:55.789,0:54:00.380 not the only time he was a hundred 0:53:57.559,0:54:03.229 percent correct this week yep another 0:54:00.380,0:54:04.759 case which Chris Reynolds earlier said 0:54:03.229,0:54:07.279 they only take one to two percent of the 0:54:04.759,0:54:08.660 cases that come up and they can't take 0:54:07.279,0:54:11.119 them all so you can't really get mad 0:54:08.660,0:54:13.759 about the ones that they choose yeah you 0:54:11.119,0:54:14.180 can't you can't get mad about whatever I 0:54:13.759,0:54:17.089 want 0:54:14.180,0:54:18.619 great I absolutely can tell me what to 0:54:17.089,0:54:22.579 get mad about I'm mad about the other 0:54:18.619,0:54:26.690 98% to just don't have time for it right 0:54:22.579,0:54:29.660 I didn't look into those though would 0:54:26.690,0:54:37.039 you be mad about mad about this now 0:54:29.660,0:54:44.059 right in the case of Rogers verse grew 0:54:37.039,0:54:45.950 ball grew up grew well New Jersey has a 0:54:44.059,0:54:48.440 requirement that any person seeking to 0:54:45.950,0:54:50.420 get a handgun carry permit must first 0:54:48.440,0:54:52.420 demonstrate to the satisfaction of the 0:54:50.420,0:54:58.849 authorities of the state that he has 0:54:52.420,0:55:00.519 justifiable need to carry a handgun here 0:54:58.849,0:55:03.349 we go 0:55:00.519,0:55:06.499 among other things the applicant must 0:55:03.349,0:55:07.849 specify in detail the urgent necessity 0:55:06.499,0:55:10.940 for self-protection 0:55:07.849,0:55:13.369 as evidence by specific threats or 0:55:10.940,0:55:15.529 previous attacks which demonstrate a 0:55:13.369,0:55:17.869 special danger to the applicants life 0:55:15.529,0:55:20.599 that cannot be avoided by means other 0:55:17.869,0:55:21.480 than by issuance of a permit to carry a 0:55:20.599,0:55:23.339 handgun 0:55:21.480,0:55:28.290 can you imagine if we made police do 0:55:23.339,0:55:30.390 this I mean it wouldn't happen but can 0:55:28.290,0:55:32.250 you imagine absolutely wouldn't happen 0:55:30.390,0:55:34.490 it would never happen but can you 0:55:32.250,0:55:36.570 imagine putting this on the government 0:55:34.490,0:55:38.190 because according to the Federalist 0:55:36.570,0:55:39.720 Papers the purpose of the the second 0:55:38.190,0:55:41.640 amendment was that anything that the 0:55:39.720,0:55:43.740 government had in terms of arms the 0:55:41.640,0:55:46.349 people should also be able to have so if 0:55:43.740,0:55:49.619 the state of New Jersey is saying that 0:55:46.349,0:55:51.270 this is the threshold for the citizens 0:55:49.619,0:55:54.329 for residents of New Jersey being 0:55:51.270,0:55:55.980 allowed to get a handgun then according 0:55:54.329,0:55:59.339 to the founding intention of the 0:55:55.980,0:56:02.339 Constitution they also should have to 0:55:59.339,0:56:04.920 meet this threshold to be able to get a 0:56:02.339,0:56:07.820 handgun right and real quick Chris 0:56:04.920,0:56:10.109 Reynolds he says we'd need another 0:56:07.820,0:56:12.150 actually he says we'd need a other 0:56:10.109,0:56:14.520 thousand supreme courts to hear all the 0:56:12.150,0:56:17.070 cases appealed the SCOTUS it's still mad 0:56:14.520,0:56:19.470 still mad we are not well I can't speak 0:56:17.070,0:56:21.869 for spike I am not mad that they don't 0:56:19.470,0:56:24.450 take all of them I'm at they don't 0:56:21.869,0:56:29.329 choose the ones I want them to I'm mad 0:56:24.450,0:56:32.099 about both those things actually so 0:56:29.329,0:56:39.230 under the rules generalized fears for 0:56:32.099,0:56:43.079 personal safety are inadequate so again 0:56:39.230,0:56:47.160 not good enough not good enough to get a 0:56:43.079,0:56:49.829 permit for a handgun generalized fears 0:56:47.160,0:56:54.960 for personal safety are inadequate that 0:56:49.829,0:56:58.859 should be stamped on the foreheads no 0:56:54.960,0:57:00.839 not even that it should be the law for 0:56:58.859,0:57:03.030 the police again imagine if the police 0:57:00.839,0:57:06.150 were told that just generalized fears 0:57:03.030,0:57:10.109 for personal safety weren't sufficient 0:57:06.150,0:57:11.760 for them to carry a weapon over the 0:57:10.109,0:57:14.520 course of their duties and now keep in 0:57:11.760,0:57:18.450 mind that we travel the same streets 0:57:14.520,0:57:21.930 they do and unlike them we don't have a 0:57:18.450,0:57:24.420 badge on us which means statistically we 0:57:21.930,0:57:25.950 are far more likely to suffer from you 0:57:24.420,0:57:27.420 know as we're as we're routinely told 0:57:25.950,0:57:30.150 you're much more likely to group murder 0:57:27.420,0:57:31.109 blow some blow some good than boy a cop 0:57:30.150,0:57:33.300 yeah that's true 0:57:31.109,0:57:34.980 and and cops are even less likely to be 0:57:33.300,0:57:36.630 murdered by anyone 0:57:34.980,0:57:39.570 because their job is actually one of the 0:57:36.630,0:57:42.200 safer ones it's actually much more 0:57:39.570,0:57:47.850 dangerous to be a pizza delivery driver 0:57:42.200,0:57:50.400 the thin brown crust and the point of 0:57:47.850,0:57:51.920 that is that they routinely tell us that 0:57:50.400,0:57:54.570 the reason they have to keep carrying 0:57:51.920,0:57:56.100 ever-growing militarized equipment is 0:57:54.570,0:57:59.250 because of the fear that they experience 0:57:56.100,0:58:02.340 just even get out amongst us even then 0:57:59.250,0:58:03.660 why can't we have it what's that even 0:58:02.340,0:58:05.070 the fear they experience in the 0:58:03.660,0:58:07.020 McDonald's drive-through and the 0:58:05.070,0:58:09.740 McDonald's drive-through and that's 0:58:07.020,0:58:13.859 coming up couldn't we talk about that 0:58:09.740,0:58:14.940 are we yeah right no not the Wendy's 0:58:13.859,0:58:18.420 drive-through the McDonald's 0:58:14.940,0:58:21.630 drive-through co-channel director was 0:58:18.420,0:58:25.500 crying crying officer Stacy who was 0:58:21.630,0:58:27.420 afraid to take her McMuffin because she 0:58:25.500,0:58:31.040 didn't see them make it and she was 0:58:27.420,0:58:33.859 afraid that they did something to it 0:58:31.040,0:58:37.230 remember that how long ago was that 0:58:33.859,0:58:39.930 yesterday oh yeah I didn't even know 0:58:37.230,0:58:40.859 that one so yeah I mean Stacy shouldn't 0:58:39.930,0:58:43.710 be able to use her hanger 0:58:40.859,0:58:44.250 yeah send me that that's funny cries a 0:58:43.710,0:58:49.770 lot 0:58:44.250,0:58:53.340 so Thomas Rogers who is suing Gruen has 0:58:49.770,0:58:54.750 a business operating on ATMs and wanted 0:58:53.340,0:58:57.869 to carry a weapon with him for 0:58:54.750,0:59:01.470 protection because he operates 0:58:57.869,0:59:07.859 he works on ATMs yeah in New Jersey 0:59:01.470,0:59:09.570 right presumably including Newark and 0:59:07.859,0:59:11.280 other places pretty much anywhere in 0:59:09.570,0:59:14.790 Jersey I guess just anywhere in Jersey 0:59:11.280,0:59:16.290 and shout-out to New Jersey see now I 0:59:14.790,0:59:17.730 have to I see no see this is the problem 0:59:16.290,0:59:21.450 now when I say things I have to like 0:59:17.730,0:59:23.250 worry about losing New Jersey which is 0:59:21.450,0:59:25.190 why I want to get rid of the electoral 0:59:23.250,0:59:30.920 college 0:59:25.190,0:59:34.170 so Thomas Rogers even though he works on 0:59:30.920,0:59:35.910 ATMs in the public where someone who 0:59:34.170,0:59:38.520 might want to rob that ATM would have a 0:59:35.910,0:59:40.140 perfect opportunity to do so when 0:59:38.520,0:59:43.310 there's someone there who can just open 0:59:40.140,0:59:46.320 it and give them all the money in it 0:59:43.310,0:59:47.550 even that didn't and that's far more 0:59:46.320,0:59:48.810 dangerous than being a cop by the way 0:59:47.550,0:59:51.180 even that 0:59:48.810,0:59:53.340 failed to meet the exacting standards of 0:59:51.180,0:59:56.880 the state not for themselves but for the 0:59:53.340,0:59:58.620 rest of us that's right so on Monday the 0:59:56.880,1:00:01.320 Supreme Court decided not to grant the 0:59:58.620,1:00:03.260 writ of certiorari of course I'm sure 1:00:01.320,1:00:08.100 that's what Donald Trump was mad about 1:00:03.260,1:00:12.060 yeah that was the one it wasn't daca it 1:00:08.100,1:00:14.400 was that it was certainly cuz this makes 1:00:12.060,1:00:17.220 me want an angry rage treat tweet which 1:00:14.400,1:00:21.150 now I actually get to angry rage tweet 1:00:17.220,1:00:23.070 and lets people see it I'm gonna 1:00:21.150,1:00:24.450 actually angry rage tweet about the fact 1:00:23.070,1:00:25.800 that Chris Reynolds says there are 1:00:24.450,1:00:28.290 things I'm not allowed to get upset 1:00:25.800,1:00:34.140 about well now he's mad that we're both 1:00:28.290,1:00:34.470 so wrong so so Clinic makes me feel 1:00:34.140,1:00:37.050 better 1:00:34.470,1:00:41.040 yeah Clarence Thomas wrote the dissent 1:00:37.050,1:00:42.780 along with Brett Kavanaugh the text of 1:00:41.040,1:00:44.640 the second amendment protects the right 1:00:42.780,1:00:46.230 of the people to keep and bear arms we 1:00:44.640,1:00:49.170 have stated that this fundamental right 1:00:46.230,1:00:50.940 is necessary to our system of ordered 1:00:49.170,1:00:53.100 liberty yet in several jurisdictions 1:00:50.940,1:00:54.390 throughout the country law-abiding 1:00:53.100,1:00:56.550 citizens have been barred from 1:00:54.390,1:00:58.410 exercising the fundamental right to bear 1:00:56.550,1:01:01.230 arms because they cannot show that they 1:00:58.410,1:01:02.040 have a justifiable need or good reason 1:01:01.230,1:01:05.160 for doing so 1:01:02.040,1:01:07.680 one would think that such an onerous 1:01:05.160,1:01:10.260 burden on a fundamental right would 1:01:07.680,1:01:11.970 warrant this Court's review this Court 1:01:10.260,1:01:13.650 would almost certainly review the 1:01:11.970,1:01:16.020 constitutionality of a law requiring 1:01:13.650,1:01:17.700 citizens to establish a justifiable need 1:01:16.020,1:01:20.130 before exercising their free speech 1:01:17.700,1:01:21.660 rights and it seems highly unlikely that 1:01:20.130,1:01:23.550 the court would allow a state to enforce 1:01:21.660,1:01:25.620 a law requiring a woman to provide a 1:01:23.550,1:01:28.500 justifiable need before seeking an 1:01:25.620,1:01:30.750 abortion but today faced with the 1:01:28.500,1:01:33.120 petition challenging just such a 1:01:30.750,1:01:34.710 restriction on citizens second Amendment 1:01:33.120,1:01:38.190 rights the court simply looks the other 1:01:34.710,1:01:42.480 way this was a pretty sick burn I was 1:01:38.190,1:01:45.120 gonna say one little wordy but and tough 1:01:42.480,1:01:46.890 to get through without stumbling but 1:01:45.120,1:01:49.380 yeah then it's like the Supreme Court 1:01:46.890,1:01:53.370 equivalent of a mic drop I feel ya know 1:01:49.380,1:01:55.770 it was pretty rough and I mean this is 1:01:53.370,1:01:57.810 by the way why you need to vote for Joe 1:01:55.770,1:01:59.820 Jorgenson to me because in the White 1:01:57.810,1:02:02.050 House we will use the Department of 1:01:59.820,1:02:04.210 Justice as an Department of 1:02:02.050,1:02:05.650 actual justice and among many other 1:02:04.210,1:02:08.530 things one of the things that we will do 1:02:05.650,1:02:11.410 is tie cooperation between federal and 1:02:08.530,1:02:14.080 state law enforcement agencies with 1:02:11.410,1:02:16.630 requiring them to not violate the 1:02:14.080,1:02:19.300 constitutional rights through their 1:02:16.630,1:02:22.480 legislative and executive actions one of 1:02:19.300,1:02:24.310 those would be gun laws and now you see 1:02:22.480,1:02:25.720 how the White House can get rid of gun 1:02:24.310,1:02:28.150 laws at the state level without even 1:02:25.720,1:02:29.470 including the legislature or at least 1:02:28.150,1:02:34.260 stop them from being enforced in any 1:02:29.470,1:02:36.340 effective way now according to Thomas 1:02:34.260,1:02:38.200 the case would have been an opportunity 1:02:36.340,1:02:40.480 to restrict the ability of these states 1:02:38.200,1:02:43.570 to infringing on the Second Amendment 1:02:40.480,1:02:47.200 right they also have been able to cover 1:02:43.570,1:02:49.090 open carry and decide the 1:02:47.200,1:02:51.520 constitutionality of justifiable need 1:02:49.090,1:02:54.940 restrictions on the right to carry but 1:02:51.520,1:02:58.770 they did not take it they did not take 1:02:54.940,1:03:02.050 it they threw it out the window and as 1:02:58.770,1:03:06.910 Clarence Tom the great Clarence Thomas 1:03:02.050,1:03:09.340 says today's today today faced with a 1:03:06.910,1:03:11.470 petition challenging such a restriction 1:03:09.340,1:03:17.080 on citizens second Amendment rights the 1:03:11.470,1:03:19.770 court simply looks the other way yep no 1:03:17.080,1:03:24.640 it is incredible 1:03:19.770,1:03:27.400 so had Heller and Heller verse DC for 1:03:24.640,1:03:29.650 anybody that the Heller vs. DC yo for 1:03:27.400,1:03:31.750 anybody who didn't know had Heller given 1:03:29.650,1:03:34.270 more of a precise standard on evaluating 1:03:31.750,1:03:38.080 Second Amendment claims this wouldn't be 1:03:34.270,1:03:41.040 an issue but instead of laying out a 1:03:38.080,1:03:43.690 general roadmap they just kind of said 1:03:41.040,1:03:45.730 general Freight though yeah we're just 1:03:43.690,1:03:48.550 gonna let the lower courts kind of 1:03:45.730,1:03:51.760 decide in the comments like Sanchez 1:03:48.550,1:03:53.470 needing a license to carry a gun is an 1:03:51.760,1:03:59.200 infringement on its own 1:03:53.470,1:04:01.240 exactly yes just even you having to go 1:03:59.200,1:04:03.100 to the government say may I please be 1:04:01.240,1:04:04.780 allowed to exercise what I was told 1:04:03.100,1:04:06.820 specifically is my second Amendment 1:04:04.780,1:04:08.790 right to keep it bare whatever are my 1:04:06.820,1:04:12.550 wish without any infringement please 1:04:08.790,1:04:15.970 that alone is an infringement on that to 1:04:12.550,1:04:20.260 put any kind of requirement 1:04:15.970,1:04:25.840 is of just a further infringement and to 1:04:20.260,1:04:27.970 have the requirement be essentially that 1:04:25.840,1:04:31.030 unless you are proving that someone's 1:04:27.970,1:04:33.490 trying to kill you that you're not going 1:04:31.030,1:04:37.270 to get one is just an outright violation 1:04:33.490,1:04:38.710 of it it it mutes it uh uh you can keep 1:04:37.270,1:04:40.630 and bear with other arms you want unless 1:04:38.710,1:04:43.180 we decide that you aren't in immediate 1:04:40.630,1:04:45.849 danger raise your hand if you've ever 1:04:43.180,1:04:47.830 been in immediate danger and had the 1:04:45.849,1:04:54.119 opportunity to fill out multiple forms 1:04:47.830,1:05:00.520 and mail them in get them notarized no 1:04:54.119,1:05:01.869 ok so instead what states have been left 1:05:00.520,1:05:04.930 with and what courts have been left with 1:05:01.869,1:05:07.450 is a two-step inquiry incorporating 1:05:04.930,1:05:10.270 tiers of scrutiny on a sliding scale 1:05:07.450,1:05:12.580 you know first ask whether the challenge 1:05:10.270,1:05:16.510 law burdens conduct protected by the 1:05:12.580,1:05:18.730 Second Amendment and then if so it 1:05:16.510,1:05:21.580 proceeds to the second step determining 1:05:18.730,1:05:25.720 the appropriate level of scrutiny which 1:05:21.580,1:05:27.280 is just completely arbitrary right to do 1:05:25.720,1:05:29.470 so of course generally consider how 1:05:27.280,1:05:31.270 close the law comes to the core of the 1:05:29.470,1:05:37.750 second Amendment right and the severity 1:05:31.270,1:05:39.640 of the laws burden on the right I'm not 1:05:37.750,1:05:46.030 sure stuff Thomas Benton has a question 1:05:39.640,1:05:49.150 or if he's high-fiving us he's hi fine 1:05:46.030,1:05:50.710 okay I was like is he raising his hand I 1:05:49.150,1:05:52.720 don't I don't know what ease do well 1:05:50.710,1:05:55.000 maybe is this is a he it's like when 1:05:52.720,1:05:56.530 we're on zoom' right if you have a 1:05:55.000,1:05:59.820 question you really don't have to raise 1:05:56.530,1:05:59.820 your hand you can just put it out there 1:06:04.020,1:06:07.960 like you know like spike said test is 1:06:06.369,1:06:09.369 completely arbitrary depending on the 1:06:07.960,1:06:10.810 court that it goes through if you're 1:06:09.369,1:06:12.190 going through the Ninth Circuit if 1:06:10.810,1:06:13.810 you're going through the Southern 1:06:12.190,1:06:16.390 District of New York depending on where 1:06:13.810,1:06:20.859 you're going through will depend on what 1:06:16.390,1:06:23.440 scrutiny these laws get had the Supreme 1:06:20.859,1:06:25.990 Court done their job with Heller which 1:06:23.440,1:06:28.240 they didn't they don't know yeah there 1:06:25.990,1:06:30.539 would be at least be a general framework 1:06:28.240,1:06:33.039 that they should be far 1:06:30.539,1:06:35.380 but they did not have the foresight that 1:06:33.039,1:06:37.269 this would be that this would be taken 1:06:35.380,1:06:42.609 advantage of in Rogers versus green wall 1:06:37.269,1:06:46.929 would have been an opportunity to 1:06:42.609,1:06:49.809 rectify everything but even Thomas in 1:06:46.929,1:06:51.579 his own words states this case gives us 1:06:49.809,1:06:53.229 an opportunity to provide lower courts 1:06:51.579,1:06:56.349 with much needed guidance ensure 1:06:53.229,1:06:59.439 adherence to our precedents and resolve 1:06:56.349,1:07:01.689 a circuit split each of these reasons is 1:06:59.439,1:07:06.900 independently sufficient to grant 1:07:01.689,1:07:09.309 certiorari so in combination they 1:07:06.900,1:07:11.380 unequivocally demonstrate that this case 1:07:09.309,1:07:13.449 warrants our review rather than 1:07:11.380,1:07:15.039 prolonging our decade-long failure to 1:07:13.449,1:07:17.619 protect the Second Amendment I would 1:07:15.039,1:07:20.789 grant this petition Oh our decade-long 1:07:17.619,1:07:29.229 failure to protect the Second Amendment 1:07:20.789,1:07:33.099 ouch this is a sassy Thomas sassy 1:07:29.229,1:07:36.160 Clarence sassy Clarence caddie Clarence 1:07:33.099,1:07:40.509 caddie Clarence Howard I mean he's not 1:07:36.160,1:07:45.009 wrong our decade-long failure to protect 1:07:40.509,1:07:47.650 the Second Amendment and instead faced 1:07:45.009,1:07:50.259 with a petition challenging such a 1:07:47.650,1:07:52.989 restriction on citizens second Amendment 1:07:50.259,1:07:56.199 rights the court simply looks the other 1:07:52.989,1:08:00.309 way this is someone who is not pleased 1:07:56.199,1:08:03.759 Matt yes he is definitely not pleased he 1:08:00.309,1:08:08.410 is not happy and he and he's telling us 1:08:03.759,1:08:10.390 yeah so again not the biggest writer 1:08:08.410,1:08:12.130 this guy not the biggest question asker 1:08:10.390,1:08:13.420 either and apparently according to 1:08:12.130,1:08:14.949 personal injury attorney Chris Reynolds 1:08:13.420,1:08:17.589 attorney at law he falls asleep 1:08:14.949,1:08:20.109 sometimes but the man's sleep 1:08:17.589,1:08:22.719 let the man sleep he's a busy man if 1:08:20.109,1:08:25.059 this is what is if this is what nap time 1:08:22.719,1:08:27.460 gets us for him from him then he can 1:08:25.059,1:08:30.299 have all the naps he needs 20 years 1:08:27.460,1:08:33.040 worth of naps got him it's working 1:08:30.299,1:08:34.449 let the man have his nap time and if he 1:08:33.040,1:08:37.960 keeps putting out quality stuff like 1:08:34.449,1:08:40.650 this then I'll change my thing about you 1:08:37.960,1:08:42.790 know replacing the Supreme Court with 1:08:40.650,1:08:43.420 Reginald and I'll just replace it with 1:08:42.790,1:08:46.839 him 1:08:43.420,1:08:49.750 I mean he's got he's got a long way to 1:08:46.839,1:08:54.810 go for that but Craig decosta thank you 1:08:49.750,1:08:59.560 it's sir she married sir she's very Oh 1:08:54.810,1:09:01.480 fury how do you say gruel that's a name 1:08:59.560,1:09:03.730 that's really up to the person also 1:09:01.480,1:09:06.310 Vanessa fuller thank you for tuning in 1:09:03.730,1:09:09.130 first time first time researching the 1:09:06.310,1:09:12.190 party excited to support us I'm assuming 1:09:09.130,1:09:16.540 it's you but you know I'm taking it guy 1:09:12.190,1:09:18.369 on left your guy on right so I'm pretty 1:09:16.540,1:09:19.509 sure are your guy on left and I'm spike 1:09:18.369,1:09:21.429 Owen and you 1:09:19.509,1:09:26.109 not according me the person who missed 1:09:21.429,1:09:27.580 those dick things oh that's right yeah 1:09:26.109,1:09:29.469 you were guy on right he said kept 1:09:27.580,1:09:37.839 saying guy on right well he left guy on 1:09:29.469,1:09:40.389 left talked and you are the power um so 1:09:37.839,1:09:45.250 yes no that's I mean hopefully we get 1:09:40.389,1:09:47.230 more great stuff from Clarence Thomas 1:09:45.250,1:09:48.400 but it's so rare for us to get great 1:09:47.230,1:09:50.500 stuff and sometimes we're left without 1:09:48.400,1:09:54.009 any great stuff and speaking of which 1:09:50.500,1:09:55.900 this is usually the time for the 1:09:54.009,1:09:56.860 personal injury attorney Chris Reynolds 1:09:55.900,1:10:01.480 attorney at law 1:09:56.860,1:10:02.050 Anker callin moment but actually hang on 1:10:01.480,1:10:05.409 a second 1:10:02.050,1:10:09.550 I was just reminded of something that I 1:10:05.409,1:10:12.070 have kept from our dear friend Ross 1:10:09.550,1:10:15.880 Keenum who is watching on YouTube he 1:10:12.070,1:10:17.170 mailed us and I had forgotten because 1:10:15.880,1:10:20.949 it's Saturday 1:10:17.170,1:10:22.300 well now I'm marginally less angry well 1:10:20.949,1:10:25.840 yeah 1:10:22.300,1:10:27.460 so he said Matt I've never tried kava 1:10:25.840,1:10:29.380 but it's been on my radar for a while 1:10:27.460,1:10:31.360 are there any brands you'd recommend and 1:10:29.380,1:10:34.000 how would you recommend a newbie prepare 1:10:31.360,1:10:37.270 it spike are you loyal to kroger brand 1:10:34.000,1:10:41.199 water and you ever venture into the 1:10:37.270,1:10:44.080 world of exotic Seltzer's I like a nice 1:10:41.199,1:10:48.610 seltzer I tend to like I mean I am 1:10:44.080,1:10:50.320 Jewish no I'm not loyal to Kroger I just 1:10:48.610,1:10:53.199 get Kroger cuz we can usually we get 1:10:50.320,1:10:55.030 these things in the mail because we shop 1:10:53.199,1:10:56.829 a Kroger so much and they give us like 1:10:55.030,1:10:59.889 either free Kroger bought 1:10:56.829,1:11:03.040 free packs of Kroger water again Jewish 1:10:59.889,1:11:04.570 or a dollar off or whatever and they're 1:11:03.040,1:11:07.840 already cheap so I just get a lot of 1:11:04.570,1:11:10.840 these but we also I have I often doula 1:11:07.840,1:11:15.699 blue water which is both kosher and made 1:11:10.840,1:11:17.920 in America just like me and I do the 1:11:15.699,1:11:19.719 Costco water like Costco water and yeah 1:11:17.920,1:11:21.820 I do like a nice seltzer I've been 1:11:19.719,1:11:24.159 drinking seltzer a lot recently but I do 1:11:21.820,1:11:25.630 like seltzer and then only I didn't get 1:11:24.159,1:11:28.869 into seltzer until I quit drinking 1:11:25.630,1:11:32.710 alcohol and now a nice seltzer with some 1:11:28.869,1:11:34.329 lime in it I it's very refreshing there 1:11:32.710,1:11:36.250 are a lot of like former like reformed 1:11:34.329,1:11:37.540 winos who say they'll drink seltzer 1:11:36.250,1:11:38.889 would like you know some fruit or 1:11:37.540,1:11:41.800 something and it kind of get a similar 1:11:38.889,1:11:43.360 cuz it cuz it's not even the you know 1:11:41.800,1:11:45.309 the high that they miss as much as just 1:11:43.360,1:11:47.650 the you know that Tang and the and the 1:11:45.309,1:11:49.270 taste or whatever so it has a similar I 1:11:47.650,1:11:51.790 mean it's not the same as wine or or 1:11:49.270,1:11:53.949 champagne but it it can you kind of 1:11:51.790,1:11:55.900 trick yourself a little bit and I and I 1:11:53.949,1:11:58.030 did respond to him about the cava but 1:11:55.900,1:12:00.489 I'll tell anybody else out there because 1:11:58.030,1:12:04.300 he asked me about other and what's any 1:12:00.489,1:12:10.889 brands I would recommend knock them all 1:12:04.300,1:12:14.320 at home that's in aka mal ATH ome calm 1:12:10.889,1:12:17.110 noch amol at home is where I buy all of 1:12:14.320,1:12:18.639 my cava powder from they have a lot of 1:12:17.110,1:12:21.690 different types that you can pick up 1:12:18.639,1:12:24.820 they are not a sponsor of the show yet 1:12:21.690,1:12:27.670 working on it but it should be they 1:12:24.820,1:12:28.989 should be but they they have a lot of 1:12:27.670,1:12:31.540 different types that you can get my 1:12:28.989,1:12:35.710 personal favorite is the white sand also 1:12:31.540,1:12:37.449 known as like a mind cava kind of helps 1:12:35.710,1:12:39.880 with creativity and clearing out the 1:12:37.449,1:12:44.230 cobwebs up there oh I thought you meant 1:12:39.880,1:12:49.809 mind like they mind it no no it's a 1:12:44.230,1:12:51.309 really a mind Kaabah so that is my 1:12:49.809,1:12:52.570 personal favorite he also asked how to 1:12:51.309,1:12:55.690 make it if you follow the directions 1:12:52.570,1:12:57.849 that come with it it it's good and if 1:12:55.690,1:13:00.579 anybody does go to noch amol at home 1:12:57.849,1:13:03.790 just say that Matt from muddied waters 1:13:00.579,1:13:06.849 sent you and hopefully they will be more 1:13:03.790,1:13:07.929 inclined to sponsor us yeah really 1:13:06.849,1:13:11.019 because that would be nice to have 1:13:07.929,1:13:12.940 another another sponsor for that 1:13:11.019,1:13:16.510 well good so that's that's a short 1:13:12.940,1:13:18.550 segment right the critter which is fine 1:13:16.510,1:13:21.519 because miss rennolds attorney-at-law 1:13:18.550,1:13:24.340 anchor : moment received no collins but 1:13:21.519,1:13:25.690 we did get in email we got an email in 1:13:24.340,1:13:27.429 that's nice but we didn't even get 1:13:25.690,1:13:29.260 anything from the laser legend or the 1:13:27.429,1:13:31.289 space pony but whatever whatever it's 1:13:29.260,1:13:34.059 fine I don't care 1:13:31.289,1:13:36.969 speaking of disappointments John Bolton 1:13:34.059,1:13:39.210 famed murderer and former White House 1:13:36.969,1:13:41.980 National Security Advisor John Bolton he 1:13:39.210,1:13:45.999 he had a little bit of a kerfuffle this 1:13:41.980,1:13:54.130 week didn't he met he did have a little 1:13:45.999,1:13:55.539 bit of a kerfuffle found itself in a bit 1:13:54.130,1:13:58.539 of a legal battle with the Trump 1:13:55.539,1:14:02.530 administration over his new book the 1:13:58.539,1:14:05.159 room where it happened the room where it 1:14:02.530,1:14:05.159 happened 1:14:07.590,1:14:17.170 obviously a ripped off line from the 1:14:11.369,1:14:18.940 famous play Hamilton and looking like it 1:14:17.170,1:14:23.170 stars Jennifer Love Hewitt 1:14:18.940,1:14:26.590 lor Ryan Philip a and Sarah Michelle 1:14:23.170,1:14:28.840 Gellar and John Bolton and John Bolton 1:14:26.590,1:14:33.309 of course this is the book cover by the 1:14:28.840,1:14:37.840 way if that's the book cover I would buy 1:14:33.309,1:14:39.969 it I would want a rare miss from 1:14:37.840,1:14:42.249 whatever publisher published this book 1:14:39.969,1:14:48.159 what a great opportunity to sell way 1:14:42.249,1:14:50.650 more books if if our our fans over in 1:14:48.159,1:14:53.889 Ireland are questioning whether that's 1:14:50.650,1:14:58.059 real or not it's not it's definitely 1:14:53.889,1:15:03.760 real that is that is this is on all the 1:14:58.059,1:15:08.079 bookshelves right now available on 1:15:03.760,1:15:12.400 Kindle available on audible read by John 1:15:08.079,1:15:19.860 Bolton read by John Bolton himself with 1:15:12.400,1:15:19.860 a with a with a foreword by Donald Trump 1:15:20.070,1:15:24.659 that I would get that 1:15:24.849,1:15:31.590 would be able to get the foreword by 1:15:27.520,1:15:31.590 Donald Trump before reading about the 1:15:31.739,1:15:36.099 stupidest book what a loser and then you 1:15:35.139,1:15:39.159 have him come on 1:15:36.099,1:15:42.429 oh man sorry go ahead 1:15:39.159,1:15:46.300 so after the week-long battle 1:15:42.429,1:15:51.639 US District Judge US District Judge Roy 1:15:46.300,1:15:53.440 Lamberth a regon appointee allowed it to 1:15:51.639,1:15:56.619 come out allowed what to come out the 1:15:53.440,1:15:58.719 book the book so they were trying to 1:15:56.619,1:16:02.429 keep the book from coming out yeah they 1:15:58.719,1:16:06.909 were saying that it violated NDA's and 1:16:02.429,1:16:08.469 security oh those Trump mdn DA's that 1:16:06.909,1:16:09.790 even if you volunteer for him you have 1:16:08.469,1:16:11.170 to like sign this thing saying you'll 1:16:09.790,1:16:13.420 never say anything bad about them or 1:16:11.170,1:16:16.030 some ridiculous thing I'm certain it's 1:16:13.420,1:16:18.670 probably more of a governmental okay 1:16:16.030,1:16:19.960 okay okay all right national security 1:16:18.670,1:16:25.920 adviser to the White House 1:16:19.960,1:16:31.900 okay so then according to Jennifer Slade 1:16:25.920,1:16:33.280 I of the New York Times she's probably 1:16:31.900,1:16:36.280 gonna end up like interviewing me and 1:16:33.280,1:16:39.780 not and not in a friendly way after that 1:16:36.280,1:16:43.360 the book is real quick Caitlin Carnahan 1:16:39.780,1:16:45.340 welcome to the show new to 1:16:43.360,1:16:48.070 libertarianism glad glad you are here 1:16:45.340,1:16:50.889 yeah thank you for joining us here in 1:16:48.070,1:16:53.040 joining us yes thank you no now watch as 1:16:50.889,1:16:58.329 I butcher this poor woman's name 1:16:53.040,1:17:01.090 according to Jennifer Saad is it just 1:16:58.329,1:17:06.099 Allah I think it's just y'all are July 1:17:01.090,1:17:10.449 shed I of the New York Times the book is 1:17:06.099,1:17:13.060 bloated with self-importance even though 1:17:10.449,1:17:15.489 what it mostly recounts is Bolton not 1:17:13.060,1:17:19.770 being able to accomplish very much it 1:17:15.489,1:17:22.510 toggles between two discordant registers 1:17:19.770,1:17:25.119 exceedingly tedious and slightly 1:17:22.510,1:17:27.909 unhinged and now I believe that this 1:17:25.119,1:17:31.119 cover is more perfect than ever for this 1:17:27.909,1:17:34.739 book yet basically based on that it's 1:17:31.119,1:17:38.500 John Bolton in a book in a book both 1:17:34.739,1:17:41.350 exceedingly decently tedious and 1:17:38.500,1:17:45.370 little unhinged that is the foreign 1:17:41.350,1:17:50.260 policy john bolton just really really 1:17:45.370,1:17:55.870 like unnecessarily detailed and also 1:17:50.260,1:17:59.370 insane at the same time it's like OCD if 1:17:55.870,1:18:01.290 it was a person yes but like malignant 1:17:59.370,1:18:08.230 obsessive compulsive personality 1:18:01.290,1:18:14.760 disorder if it were a person only would 1:18:08.230,1:18:18.190 that kind of imbalance in effect and and 1:18:14.760,1:18:24.310 presentation could someone in the 2020s 1:18:18.190,1:18:29.260 have that mustache which does nothing 1:18:24.310,1:18:31.240 for his face that's what matters here 1:18:29.260,1:18:34.510 the only thing I can think is he has 1:18:31.240,1:18:37.410 like a scar that he's covered that's it 1:18:34.510,1:18:44.590 that's all I got a scar would be 1:18:37.410,1:18:47.770 markedly better than this risk a scar 1:18:44.590,1:18:49.720 would be much I'd like to say along man 1:18:47.770,1:18:50.650 he looks unless your Wilford Brimley 1:18:49.720,1:18:54.160 don't do that 1:18:50.650,1:18:56.140 is welcome Wow he's ripping I'm Wilford 1:18:54.160,1:18:58.390 Brimley yeah I don't know if Wilford 1:18:56.140,1:19:00.880 Brimley's still alive he might be he is 1:18:58.390,1:19:03.250 alive he's still alive okay yeah I 1:19:00.880,1:19:07.510 haven't seen a diabetes commercial in a 1:19:03.250,1:19:09.220 while I mean now everyone knows where to 1:19:07.510,1:19:14.680 get it it was so effective everyone 1:19:09.220,1:19:17.940 knows to go to Liberty Medical so they 1:19:14.680,1:19:21.370 don't need to spend the money anymore 1:19:17.940,1:19:24.690 what so according to John Bolton Trump's 1:19:21.370,1:19:24.690 talks with President 1:19:28.780,1:19:39.280 hey Matt what did John Bolten say about 1:19:31.300,1:19:42.190 Trump in China uh according to John 1:19:39.280,1:19:46.059 Bolton Tran stocks with famed Winnie the 1:19:42.190,1:19:49.809 Pooh impersonator president Z G were 1:19:46.059,1:19:53.199 transactional during trade talks from 1:19:49.809,1:19:55.840 turned the conversation it to the coming 1:19:53.199,1:19:58.449 US presidential election alluding to 1:19:55.840,1:20:00.909 China's economic capability to affect 1:19:58.449,1:20:06.159 the ongoing campaigns pleading with you 1:20:00.909,1:20:09.249 to ensure he'd win are you telling me 1:20:06.159,1:20:10.809 that Donald Trump is transactional in 1:20:09.249,1:20:15.070 his conversations with people in 1:20:10.809,1:20:17.590 tremendous positions of power that well 1:20:15.070,1:20:20.920 I'm not saying that Jim I refuse to 1:20:17.590,1:20:22.869 believe this John Bolton is saying that 1:20:20.920,1:20:25.289 I I refuse to believe this man's 1:20:22.869,1:20:29.340 mustache or the person attached to it 1:20:25.289,1:20:33.369 when he says that Donald Trump is 1:20:29.340,1:20:35.079 meeting with officials and trying to 1:20:33.369,1:20:39.340 leverage it for his own personal gain 1:20:35.079,1:20:42.389 how dare you Jennifer Love Hewitt Ryan 1:20:39.340,1:20:47.559 Philippe and Sarah Michelle Gellar and 1:20:42.389,1:20:49.030 also oh I forget no I'm not looking at 1:20:47.559,1:20:49.989 his face now cuz I've replaced it and 1:20:49.030,1:20:58.599 now I can't remember his name 1:20:49.989,1:21:01.499 um Wilford Brimley oh who is that is 1:20:58.599,1:21:05.969 that Freddie Prinze yes Freddie Prinze 1:21:01.499,1:21:05.969 Freddie Prinze jr. Freddie Prinze jr. 1:21:07.710,1:21:12.729 Bolton also writes I would print Trump's 1:21:11.229,1:21:14.499 exact words but the government 1:21:12.729,1:21:19.690 pre-publication review process has 1:21:14.499,1:21:22.119 decided otherwise so he's not allowed to 1:21:19.690,1:21:23.739 say what Trump allegedly said on these 1:21:22.119,1:21:25.749 calls because the government will not 1:21:23.739,1:21:29.889 let him also real quick there was an 1:21:25.749,1:21:31.090 article in The Washington Times I don't 1:21:29.889,1:21:32.289 remember who said it because I didn't 1:21:31.090,1:21:34.630 put it in the notes but it had the 1:21:32.289,1:21:41.469 greatest phrase I've ever heard 1:21:34.630,1:21:42.400 oh yeah yes John Bolton's John Bolton's 1:21:41.469,1:21:44.770 new book is 1:21:42.400,1:21:47.290 the equivalent of deep state revenge 1:21:44.770,1:21:51.989 porn and the fact that I know that 1:21:47.290,1:21:56.620 phrase now and is in my head forever 1:21:51.989,1:22:02.440 brings me so much joy deep state revenge 1:21:56.620,1:22:05.650 porn yeah it was it was a deep no deep 1:22:02.440,1:22:10.690 swamp revenge porn Oh deep swamp or deep 1:22:05.650,1:22:16.090 swamp revenge porn that is what this is 1:22:10.690,1:22:19.030 about yes it's a deep swamp revenge soft 1:22:16.090,1:22:23.980 porn featuring Freddie Prinze jr. and 1:22:19.030,1:22:25.960 Ryan Phillippe a and John Bolton so you 1:22:23.980,1:22:28.810 can imagine what that would look like um 1:22:25.960,1:22:32.560 oh I should probably I can probably take 1:22:28.810,1:22:35.710 that off now so yes so Bolton states 1:22:32.560,1:22:38.469 that Trump had no idea the UK was a 1:22:35.710,1:22:40.719 nuclear power and he did not know that 1:22:38.469,1:22:46.300 Finland was not a part of Russia dear 1:22:40.719,1:22:49.810 Lord no it's sad like all of this stuff 1:22:46.300,1:22:51.449 believe it's all like I was like there 1:22:49.810,1:22:54.489 is no way that's true but then again 1:22:51.449,1:22:56.860 this is the president who forgot that 1:22:54.489,1:22:59.890 the Kansas City Chiefs didn't come from 1:22:56.860,1:23:01.510 Kansas yeah that's also true this is a 1:22:59.890,1:23:04.030 man who thought he could just take a 1:23:01.510,1:23:07.120 sharpie and add it to a a cone of 1:23:04.030,1:23:10.360 uncertainty for a hurricane to prove 1:23:07.120,1:23:12.460 that he had what what a weird flex he 1:23:10.360,1:23:14.949 mistakenly put a state that was 1:23:12.460,1:23:16.600 reasonably nearby that any person could 1:23:14.949,1:23:18.909 have thought Alabama was also in its 1:23:16.600,1:23:20.980 crosshairs and instead of just go oh I 1:23:18.909,1:23:22.719 accidentally put Alabama he went and 1:23:20.980,1:23:25.000 like added this stupid thing to the end 1:23:22.719,1:23:27.730 with a sharpie on this and see look it's 1:23:25.000,1:23:30.219 here even though that was never on no 1:23:27.730,1:23:32.380 where else was that was that even there 1:23:30.219,1:23:35.350 and and nor would that be what it would 1:23:32.380,1:23:36.790 look like because each circle is bigger 1:23:35.350,1:23:38.199 than the ones before it and this was 1:23:36.790,1:23:41.380 just some little thing he added on the 1:23:38.199,1:23:45.100 side like this is the kind of minute so 1:23:41.380,1:23:47.860 ya know I I'm not surprised to hear that 1:23:45.100,1:23:50.440 he didn't know that the UK was a nuclear 1:23:47.860,1:23:51.420 power or that poem was not a part of 1:23:50.440,1:23:56.850 Russia 1:23:51.420,1:24:00.790 so Bolton being reasonably intelligent 1:23:56.850,1:24:03.400 he put the chapter on Ukraine last in 1:24:00.790,1:24:07.750 order to make sure people would read all 1:24:03.400,1:24:09.880 the way to the end but anymore Boulton 1:24:07.750,1:24:12.880 declines to offer and this is according 1:24:09.880,1:24:15.610 to Jennifer July declines to offer 1:24:12.880,1:24:18.100 anything comparatively vivid in his own 1:24:15.610,1:24:21.310 book taking cover and what he depicts as 1:24:18.100,1:24:23.230 his own bewilderment so instead of 1:24:21.310,1:24:26.980 saying hey this isn't right 1:24:23.230,1:24:30.130 hey this is wrong he sat back mouthy gay 1:24:26.980,1:24:33.280 making his mustache stretch further down 1:24:30.130,1:24:36.310 I guess are you are you describing the 1:24:33.280,1:24:37.420 deep swamp revenge porn as it played out 1:24:36.310,1:24:41.080 yeah 1:24:37.420,1:24:45.190 and mouth pop leave that Donald Trump 1:24:41.080,1:24:52.150 would do this why would he not believe 1:24:45.190,1:24:54.400 that oh no I haven't read the book you 1:24:52.150,1:24:56.290 too will find out while it why he didn't 1:24:54.400,1:25:02.410 think so when you get the room where it 1:24:56.290,1:25:04.420 happened the room sponsor my great 1:25:02.410,1:25:06.880 published by it is that like well whose 1:25:04.420,1:25:11.680 public I want to know anyway go ahead 1:25:06.880,1:25:17.350 um well Bolton allegedly found Trump's 1:25:11.680,1:25:19.150 conduct deeply disturbing it was the 1:25:17.350,1:25:21.219 Democratic controlled house that was 1:25:19.150,1:25:23.020 guilty of impeachment malpractice 1:25:21.219,1:25:25.270 meaning he's playing both sides of the 1:25:23.020,1:25:28.420 coin here like he's playing both sides 1:25:25.270,1:25:30.790 of the field this is like a heads I win 1:25:28.420,1:25:33.610 tails you lose situation for him instead 1:25:30.790,1:25:36.130 of a comprehensive investigation they 1:25:33.610,1:25:38.320 seemed more they seemed governed more by 1:25:36.130,1:25:40.030 their own political imperatives to move 1:25:38.320,1:25:42.400 swiftly to vote on articles of 1:25:40.030,1:25:45.370 impeachment I mean he's kind of not 1:25:42.400,1:25:46.719 wrong he's not wrong he says that they 1:25:45.370,1:25:49.870 should have broaden their inquiry to 1:25:46.719,1:25:53.760 include hawk Bank which is the turkish 1:25:49.870,1:26:00.760 bank that president murdered was 1:25:53.760,1:26:04.600 involved with and ZTE the Chinese 1:26:00.760,1:26:09.360 telecom company that president Winnie 1:26:04.600,1:26:09.360 the Pooh impersonator she 1:26:10.320,1:26:18.900 ermahgerd are murdered Bolton's and 1:26:16.340,1:26:21.810 Bolton's book might actually be factual 1:26:18.900,1:26:25.770 it might be factual all the way to last 1:26:21.810,1:26:28.739 detail right but this is a man who never 1:26:25.770,1:26:31.139 ever went to Congress about the issues 1:26:28.739,1:26:34.139 that he had he never said hey he's doing 1:26:31.139,1:26:35.010 this with Hulk Bank or he's doing this 1:26:34.139,1:26:38.070 with ZTE 1:26:35.010,1:26:39.840 or he did this with Ukraine but he never 1:26:38.070,1:26:41.520 said anything even under subpoena which 1:26:39.840,1:26:43.949 he was then told he couldn't like he 1:26:41.520,1:26:46.260 could have gone to them outside of the 1:26:43.949,1:26:49.679 subpoena he could have gone if you 1:26:46.260,1:26:52.340 couldn't just told him right he could he 1:26:49.679,1:26:59.429 could have done this but he chose not to 1:26:52.340,1:27:03.239 now the most eye-opening statement that 1:26:59.429,1:27:06.000 he states in this book the real turning 1:27:03.239,1:27:08.250 point for him in the administration is 1:27:06.000,1:27:13.619 also the one that makes me kind of doubt 1:27:08.250,1:27:15.619 that much of this is true or it is true 1:27:13.619,1:27:20.010 and he's just doing it for a quick buck 1:27:15.619,1:27:22.469 I mean this honestly I could see this 1:27:20.010,1:27:25.469 really pissed him off I do well yes 1:27:22.469,1:27:28.889 obviously like all that all the 1:27:25.469,1:27:31.829 corruption and idiocy I saw it makes 1:27:28.889,1:27:35.040 obspec peace with that but this how dare 1:27:31.829,1:27:40.139 you sir pisses me off this is why I 1:27:35.040,1:27:42.659 write an entire book I'm covering a book 1:27:40.139,1:27:44.219 now I'm gonna write an entire book I 1:27:42.659,1:27:47.880 tell you in a journal when you're mad 1:27:44.219,1:27:49.949 journals so he journaled and now it's 1:27:47.880,1:27:55.290 hitting published by Simon & Schuster 1:27:49.949,1:27:57.540 yes the thing that really pissed him off 1:27:55.290,1:28:00.090 had to do with the attack on Iran that 1:27:57.540,1:28:08.010 to Bolton's abject disappointment did 1:28:00.090,1:28:09.989 not happen in June 20 29 last June June 1:28:08.010,1:28:12.630 we talked about this on the we thought 1:28:09.989,1:28:14.489 yeah yeah we talked about this quite a 1:28:12.630,1:28:17.099 bit yeah 1:28:14.489,1:28:20.309 Iran had shot down an unmanned American 1:28:17.099,1:28:22.340 drone and Bolton who has always 1:28:20.309,1:28:23.940 championed what he proudly called 1:28:22.340,1:28:26.070 disproportionate response 1:28:23.940,1:28:33.420 urghhh Trump to bomb Iran as he wanted 1:28:26.070,1:28:36.000 to since the 80s but actually Bolton in 1:28:33.420,1:28:38.430 the book Bolton describes going home to 1:28:36.000,1:28:39.870 pick up an extra set of clothes because 1:28:38.430,1:28:43.560 he knew it was gonna be a long night at 1:28:39.870,1:28:46.770 the White House and then talks about how 1:28:43.560,1:28:50.880 sad he was because at 5:30 when he 1:28:46.770,1:28:53.340 showed up he was shocked to find out 1:28:50.880,1:28:55.380 that Trump decided to call off the 1:28:53.340,1:28:56.910 strikes at the very last minute learning 1:28:55.380,1:29:01.370 it would kill as many as a hundred and 1:28:56.910,1:29:07.230 fifty people because credit to trump 1:29:01.370,1:29:11.160 they shot down a robot that was possibly 1:29:07.230,1:29:13.410 probably over their airspace or at the 1:29:11.160,1:29:16.320 very least really really really close to 1:29:13.410,1:29:17.040 it nearly closed like a matter of a 1:29:16.320,1:29:18.870 couple miles 1:29:17.040,1:29:21.120 it was either two or three miles this 1:29:18.870,1:29:24.030 way or two or three miles this way and 1:29:21.120,1:29:26.489 it was a robot and they knew it was a 1:29:24.030,1:29:29.130 robot and they were basically saying hey 1:29:26.489,1:29:31.620 back off with your robots and john 1:29:29.130,1:29:36.120 bolton wanted to launch a strike that 1:29:31.620,1:29:37.710 would have killed dozens of people and 1:29:36.120,1:29:39.570 the thing is when we when we when we 1:29:37.710,1:29:41.969 talk about war you know something like 1:29:39.570,1:29:43.380 150 doesn't sound like much because 1:29:41.969,1:29:45.300 we're used to hearing about you know 1:29:43.380,1:29:47.969 thousands or tens of thousands of killed 1:29:45.300,1:29:53.610 and more just think for a moment about 1:29:47.969,1:29:56.670 if al-qaeda or Isis killed a hundred and 1:29:53.610,1:30:00.719 fifty people in the United States or if 1:29:56.670,1:30:03.530 a foreign military attacked and killed a 1:30:00.719,1:30:06.300 hundred and fifty people in the u.s. 1:30:03.530,1:30:08.969 that's what john bolton wanted over them 1:30:06.300,1:30:11.910 shooting down a robot that was probably 1:30:08.969,1:30:15.420 flying over their airspace so so imagine 1:30:11.910,1:30:17.430 you there's a drone flying like 20 miles 1:30:15.420,1:30:19.320 from the coast of new york or five miles 1:30:17.430,1:30:21.840 six miles whatever from the coast of New 1:30:19.320,1:30:25.199 York it gets shot down and so the 1:30:21.840,1:30:28.469 Chinese military launches you know air 1:30:25.199,1:30:29.910 strike that kills 150 New Yorkers that's 1:30:28.469,1:30:35.540 what john bolton wanted to start with 1:30:29.910,1:30:35.540 iran to his credit Trump did not do that 1:30:36.349,1:30:42.889 now I didn't even think about this but 1:30:38.690,1:30:44.540 uh it says that Bolton describes going 1:30:42.889,1:30:46.550 home at about 5:30 for change clothes 1:30:44.540,1:30:48.469 because he expected to be at the white 1:30:46.550,1:30:51.409 house all night I got 20 bucks it was 1:30:48.469,1:30:55.040 onesie I think he was thinking 1:30:51.409,1:30:56.780 presidential sleepover Oh like the puppy 1:30:55.040,1:30:59.510 oh and there's like I bet he bought it 1:30:56.780,1:31:02.690 do you think he got his own pillow yeah 1:30:59.510,1:31:07.010 he brought his Wilford Brimley bear the 1:31:02.690,1:31:10.310 one that looks like him and brought a 1:31:07.010,1:31:12.889 pillow maybe maybe a robe throw on the 1:31:10.310,1:31:15.230 onesie he was ready stuff Dinosaur Land 1:31:12.889,1:31:17.989 Before Time dinosaur and he wasn't 1:31:15.230,1:31:20.449 actually upset about the saving 150 1:31:17.989,1:31:22.900 innocent lives he was upset that he did 1:31:20.449,1:31:24.829 not get his presidential sleepover oh 1:31:22.900,1:31:27.170 well that makes sense 1:31:24.829,1:31:29.000 what makes more sense that makes a lot 1:31:27.170,1:31:30.560 more sense that actually makes sense cuz 1:31:29.000,1:31:31.639 you get all worked up I remember you 1:31:30.560,1:31:35.619 don't get like I'm having a sleepover 1:31:31.639,1:31:41.260 it's like oh no Timmy sick oh yeah 1:31:35.619,1:31:43.310 Timmy's going out I'm already yeah 1:31:41.260,1:31:45.560 and so then your parents make like a 1:31:43.310,1:31:47.719 pillow fort downstairs but he didn't 1:31:45.560,1:31:49.790 have that no he didn't get the pillow 1:31:47.719,1:31:50.929 for it because he accidentally left his 1:31:49.790,1:31:55.670 pillow at the White House 1:31:50.929,1:31:57.230 oh so then he gets there he goes okay 1:31:55.670,1:31:58.730 fine and he leaves the pillow there he 1:31:57.230,1:32:01.760 goes home he said well at least I got my 1:31:58.730,1:32:06.650 pillow and then he didn't any so he 1:32:01.760,1:32:08.000 starts writing a book yeah I mean that 1:32:06.650,1:32:08.900 makes this make a little this puts a 1:32:08.000,1:32:12.230 human touch to it 1:32:08.900,1:32:16.849 this is the kind of man mad man who 1:32:12.230,1:32:19.219 wrote a book about another madman who is 1:32:16.849,1:32:21.920 currently bunching like 20,000 people 1:32:19.219,1:32:24.980 into a building together during a 1:32:21.920,1:32:27.829 pandemic on a date that he had to have 1:32:24.980,1:32:32.389 changed after scheduling it to be on 1:32:27.829,1:32:34.790 Juneteenth in Tulsa Oklahoma were the 1:32:32.389,1:32:41.150 single greatest race Massacre in 1:32:34.790,1:32:42.980 American history has happened that's 1:32:41.150,1:32:47.020 what this whole story that we just spent 1:32:42.980,1:32:50.239 I think like 40 minutes on was about 1:32:47.020,1:32:52.999 basically this is the story of 210 1:32:50.239,1:32:54.679 herbal individuals and in the notes I 1:32:52.999,1:32:56.239 literally wrote and now I'm pissed I 1:32:54.679,1:33:00.530 spent this long reading up about this 1:32:56.239,1:33:04.239 story about angry the one redeeming 1:33:00.530,1:33:06.499 thing was that we got to use this and 1:33:04.239,1:33:09.860 that we got to talk about the pillow for 1:33:06.499,1:33:16.880 those alone made this somewhat 1:33:09.860,1:33:18.079 redeemable say Sean Bresnahan Sean 1:33:16.880,1:33:20.510 Bresnahan says they were gonna make 1:33:18.079,1:33:23.119 friendship bracelets bolts and Donnie 1:33:20.510,1:33:24.199 forever which well and and see so we 1:33:23.119,1:33:25.460 should have known that that was gonna 1:33:24.199,1:33:29.030 happen because Donald Trump would never 1:33:25.460,1:33:31.159 do that so well I mean Donald Trump will 1:33:29.030,1:33:33.380 say anything it's just whether or not oh 1:33:31.159,1:33:34.699 no he would have said he'd do that but I 1:33:33.380,1:33:36.019 would have known it if Donald Trump's 1:33:34.699,1:33:37.400 like yeah I'm gonna make friendship 1:33:36.019,1:33:41.179 bracelets with you I'm like I don't 1:33:37.400,1:33:45.829 believe you I don't believe you I'm not 1:33:41.179,1:33:47.840 even going to bring my pillow right cuz 1:33:45.829,1:33:50.030 I mean it it's in your car and it gets 1:33:47.840,1:33:52.699 dirty you know you know as a kid I 1:33:50.030,1:33:54.440 didn't care but now it matters it does 1:33:52.699,1:33:56.749 that is I 1:33:54.440,1:34:02.630 that's when moving I always take the 1:33:56.749,1:34:04.639 pillow in other like in a bag yeah you 1:34:02.630,1:34:05.929 put it in a bag and I'm not showing up 1:34:04.639,1:34:07.909 to the White House with like a garbage 1:34:05.929,1:34:09.349 bag with my pillow in it cuz then it was 1:34:07.909,1:34:15.670 like why'd you bring a garbage bag and 1:34:09.349,1:34:17.900 like it's got my pillow in it loser so 1:34:15.670,1:34:19.190 hopefully soon you won't have to show up 1:34:17.900,1:34:21.499 with the pillow you'll just be able to 1:34:19.190,1:34:24.829 stay I'll just live there why I'll live 1:34:21.499,1:34:26.840 in the admiral's house which is it'll be 1:34:24.829,1:34:29.239 on the property it's the same property 1:34:26.840,1:34:30.730 oh so they could just walk over with my 1:34:29.239,1:34:33.230 pillow 1:34:30.730,1:34:38.090 cuz it's right there yeah it's right 1:34:33.230,1:34:42.999 there I mean now you really got a vote 1:34:38.090,1:34:46.159 for me so we're gonna close on a pretty 1:34:42.999,1:34:48.380 horrifying story and an infuriating 1:34:46.159,1:34:49.969 story that you have possibly heard 1:34:48.380,1:34:52.550 somewhat about but maybe not all the 1:34:49.969,1:34:54.199 details and there's no good segue which 1:34:52.550,1:34:57.289 is why I'm doing this instead because 1:34:54.199,1:35:01.719 there's no humorous segue or even witty 1:34:57.289,1:35:01.719 segue for this it is an absolute 1:35:02.750,1:35:08.090 it's just more of the same and we're out 1:35:05.960,1:35:09.290 here I shouldn't even say we're out here 1:35:08.090,1:35:11.360 because I've only gone to a couple 1:35:09.290,1:35:15.410 things there were people out there day 1:35:11.360,1:35:18.650 after day demanding an end to this and 1:35:15.410,1:35:22.730 we just see it happening over and over 1:35:18.650,1:35:27.350 again in Atlanta a man named Rashard 1:35:22.730,1:35:30.410 Brooks was killed by a police in a 1:35:27.350,1:35:33.320 Wendy's drive-through after in a scuffle 1:35:30.410,1:35:41.170 he took the cops taser he tried to tase 1:35:33.320,1:35:45.710 the cop and then he ran away now 1:35:41.170,1:35:47.540 Rashard Brooks even if we get into the 1:35:45.710,1:35:49.610 case that you know there probably was a 1:35:47.540,1:35:53.720 better way to deal with him fine 1:35:49.610,1:35:56.090 at that point he had resisted arrest and 1:35:53.720,1:36:01.930 tried to assault an officer with a less 1:35:56.090,1:36:01.930 than lethal weapon then he ran away 1:36:02.170,1:36:11.300 rendering him no longer a threat and if 1:36:07.670,1:36:13.550 any of us shot him shot someone running 1:36:11.300,1:36:16.840 away from us even after a scuffle or a 1:36:13.550,1:36:20.540 fight we'd be charged with homicide 1:36:16.840,1:36:22.850 because that's how it works you can only 1:36:20.540,1:36:25.220 use deadly force if you feel if you have 1:36:22.850,1:36:29.450 a reasonable reason to believe that your 1:36:25.220,1:36:32.540 life or bodily safety are in right or 1:36:29.450,1:36:33.350 are at risk someone running away is the 1:36:32.540,1:36:35.150 opposite of that 1:36:33.350,1:36:39.770 they're leaving they don't even want to 1:36:35.150,1:36:41.600 be near you and it took an impressive 1:36:39.770,1:36:42.050 period of time for this next thing to 1:36:41.600,1:36:47.690 happen 1:36:42.050,1:36:50.840 Matt Garrett Rolfe and Devon Bronson 1:36:47.690,1:36:53.720 were charged with felony murder for 1:36:50.840,1:37:01.370 their role in the killing of Rashard 1:36:53.720,1:37:04.850 Brooks now after Garrett Rolf was 1:37:01.370,1:37:08.650 charged a couple of days ago because 1:37:04.850,1:37:11.090 Devon Bronson took two days three days 1:37:08.650,1:37:16.270 yeah it was like three days later that 1:37:11.090,1:37:16.270 that happened I believe yesterday okay 1:37:16.280,1:37:20.510 many members of after Garrett Rolf was 1:37:19.159,1:37:23.809 charged many members of the Atlanta 1:37:20.510,1:37:26.449 police called out sick many people 1:37:23.809,1:37:31.520 started calling it the blue flu or a 1:37:26.449,1:37:35.239 sick out and according to the police 1:37:31.520,1:37:37.730 union spokesman Vince champion he says 1:37:35.239,1:37:40.340 this is not an organized thing it's not 1:37:37.730,1:37:42.050 a blue flu it's not a strike 1:37:40.340,1:37:44.840 funny because it sounds a lot like 1:37:42.050,1:37:45.289 sounds a lot like yeah it's nothing like 1:37:44.840,1:37:47.449 that 1:37:45.289,1:37:49.280 what it actually is is officers 1:37:47.449,1:37:50.329 protesting that they've had enough and 1:37:49.280,1:37:54.829 they don't want to deal with it any 1:37:50.329,1:37:57.940 longer here's why I have a theory as to 1:37:54.829,1:38:00.619 why he's saying it's not a strike 1:37:57.940,1:38:03.530 Georgia is a right-to-work state I have 1:38:00.619,1:38:05.329 a feeling that their particular and I 1:38:03.530,1:38:07.400 don't know this but just the way he's 1:38:05.329,1:38:09.559 being very defensive about what cops use 1:38:07.400,1:38:11.510 usually police unions are proud to talk 1:38:09.559,1:38:14.020 about I have a feeling that they don't 1:38:11.510,1:38:16.250 have strike they don't have the the 1:38:14.020,1:38:18.230 permission or authority to strike under 1:38:16.250,1:38:20.360 their collective bargaining agreement 1:38:18.230,1:38:23.030 with the Atlanta Police Department or 1:38:20.360,1:38:25.880 the I guide the city of Atlanta I have a 1:38:23.030,1:38:27.760 strong feeling the way that he tried to 1:38:25.880,1:38:31.340 shift it and go oh no this is just 1:38:27.760,1:38:33.559 spontaneous protesting they probably 1:38:31.340,1:38:35.510 aren't allowed to that makes sense 1:38:33.559,1:38:36.860 actually I did I was like man this 1:38:35.510,1:38:38.900 sounds exactly like a strike why 1:38:36.860,1:38:40.789 wouldn't it is a strike that's why I'm 1:38:38.900,1:38:42.829 saying when a bunch of people decide to 1:38:40.789,1:38:44.690 protest by not going to work 1:38:42.829,1:38:46.159 that's called a strike that's like the 1:38:44.690,1:38:49.039 definition I'm gonna look up the 1:38:46.159,1:38:50.139 definition of a strike in an interview 1:38:49.039,1:38:53.360 with the Atlanta journal-constitution 1:38:50.139,1:38:55.489 champion did add that there are officers 1:38:53.360,1:38:58.280 saying they are not going to leave the 1:38:55.489,1:39:00.199 precinct unless to help another officer 1:38:58.280,1:39:03.559 some are walking off and sitting in 1:39:00.199,1:39:05.599 their personal vehicles yeah this sounds 1:39:03.559,1:39:07.130 when we come out to protect our strike 1:39:05.599,1:39:09.079 sounds like a slowdown sounds like a 1:39:07.130,1:39:12.020 sick out whatever you want to call it 1:39:09.079,1:39:13.969 that's what that's what this sounds like 1:39:12.020,1:39:17.929 here's the definition of strike a 1:39:13.969,1:39:21.949 refusal to work organized by a body of 1:39:17.929,1:39:25.670 employees as a form of protest so far so 1:39:21.949,1:39:27.949 good on this being a strike typically in 1:39:25.670,1:39:30.050 an attempt to gain a concession or 1:39:27.949,1:39:32.329 concessions from their employer 1:39:30.050,1:39:35.480 I have to come to the conclusion after 1:39:32.329,1:39:38.239 reading that this is a strike this 1:39:35.480,1:39:42.520 qualifies as a strike this is literally 1:39:38.239,1:39:44.770 a strike now Atlanta PD 1:39:42.520,1:39:47.050 also an agreement this isn't a strike 1:39:44.770,1:39:53.619 they released a statement after 1:39:47.050,1:39:56.449 champions comments and they said that 1:39:53.619,1:39:59.480 claims the officers walking off the job 1:39:56.449,1:40:07.119 were inaccurate they said that this was 1:39:59.480,1:40:09.559 not happening laughter the the police 1:40:07.119,1:40:10.969 spokesman says this is not an organized 1:40:09.559,1:40:15.530 thing it's not a strike it's nothing 1:40:10.969,1:40:17.389 like that it's officers protesting he 1:40:15.530,1:40:19.190 basically said this is happening but 1:40:17.389,1:40:22.280 we're not calling it a strike right and 1:40:19.190,1:40:26.750 then ap APD was like no that's not not 1:40:22.280,1:40:28.400 even happening I'm real no real they 1:40:26.750,1:40:30.500 didn't say that the department is 1:40:28.400,1:40:34.780 experiencing a higher than usual number 1:40:30.500,1:40:37.369 of call outs with the incoming shift and 1:40:34.780,1:40:39.469 they have enough resources to maintain 1:40:37.369,1:40:41.750 operations and remain able to respond to 1:40:39.469,1:40:45.199 incidents so they have enough people 1:40:41.750,1:40:48.320 there so here's a question that's not 1:40:45.199,1:40:49.639 minute if they have enough people to 1:40:48.320,1:40:51.079 respond to incidents but they have a 1:40:49.639,1:40:55.340 higher number of call outs couldn't they 1:40:51.079,1:40:56.630 just get rid of that many people who 1:40:55.340,1:40:59.540 they told on themselves 1:40:56.630,1:41:03.440 yes they did that just hit me like right 1:40:59.540,1:41:05.900 now they have enough resources to 1:41:03.440,1:41:07.429 maintain operations and remain able to 1:41:05.900,1:41:09.320 respond to incidents even though a 1:41:07.429,1:41:12.320 higher than usual number of call outs 1:41:09.320,1:41:13.849 are happening so in their total blatant 1:41:12.320,1:41:16.579 lie so here's the breakdown 1:41:13.849,1:41:19.280 - cops murder a guy they get arrested 1:41:16.579,1:41:20.480 for it the police are not really used to 1:41:19.280,1:41:22.520 this new thing where they can get 1:41:20.480,1:41:25.699 arrested for murder and so some of them 1:41:22.520,1:41:26.900 so they strike the police union because 1:41:25.699,1:41:29.239 they probably don't have the authority 1:41:26.900,1:41:33.349 to strike said whoa whoa this isn't a 1:41:29.239,1:41:35.480 strike it's just a refusal to work 1:41:33.349,1:41:37.369 organized by a body of employees as a 1:41:35.480,1:41:39.230 form of protest typically in an attempt 1:41:37.369,1:41:41.690 to gain a concession or concessions from 1:41:39.230,1:41:43.830 their employer but it's not a strike per 1:41:41.690,1:41:48.470 se 1:41:43.830,1:41:51.510 and then in in doing their Orwellian 1:41:48.470,1:41:54.800 response the Atlanta Police Department 1:41:51.510,1:41:57.030 claiming that's not even happening 1:41:54.800,1:41:58.500 they're not even not even 1:41:57.030,1:42:02.700 they're not even refusing to work 1:41:58.500,1:42:04.530 they're totally working in doing so they 1:42:02.700,1:42:07.260 said that there's way more stuff 1:42:04.530,1:42:09.210 happening right now but then they also 1:42:07.260,1:42:12.240 said because they can't admit that 1:42:09.210,1:42:14.370 they're not sufficient or that you know 1:42:12.240,1:42:15.450 they aren't competent then they said we 1:42:14.370,1:42:18.240 have enough resources to maintain 1:42:15.450,1:42:20.450 operations and remain able to respond to 1:42:18.240,1:42:22.470 incidents well then it sounds to me like 1:42:20.450,1:42:27.000 you have too many people and I think you 1:42:22.470,1:42:28.740 have too many cops yeah or maybe you 1:42:27.000,1:42:32.630 should only have some just this you know 1:42:28.740,1:42:34.740 part time surge police or something I 1:42:32.630,1:42:38.510 wonder what that might end up happening 1:42:34.740,1:42:41.790 how that admission could could be 1:42:38.510,1:42:45.030 received in the police union that isn't 1:42:41.790,1:42:48.120 striking isn't the one that is not 1:42:45.030,1:42:52.170 striking right now that also could be a 1:42:48.120,1:42:54.090 threat to the Union yeah ooh that could 1:42:52.170,1:42:56.400 be a threat to the Union and having them 1:42:54.090,1:43:01.250 say yeah we have enough to do it right 1:42:56.400,1:43:01.250 now show up or you don't have to anymore 1:43:03.350,1:43:10.530 they're saying this isn't a strike those 1:43:06.270,1:43:12.440 people don't work here any this isn't a 1:43:10.530,1:43:17.070 strike because anyone who's striking 1:43:12.440,1:43:19.050 doesn't work here anymore so what we 1:43:17.070,1:43:22.440 actually cuz this originally this story 1:43:19.050,1:43:25.080 was like much more outrageous in another 1:43:22.440,1:43:28.890 way but we might actually be seeing a 1:43:25.080,1:43:30.990 sort of subtle PR war happening between 1:43:28.890,1:43:34.110 the Atlanta Police Department and the 1:43:30.990,1:43:35.490 police union or we're just overthinking 1:43:34.110,1:43:38.400 this and these are a bunch of morons 1:43:35.490,1:43:42.090 which is equally possible they're 1:43:38.400,1:43:44.220 actually probable probably 65 35 that 1:43:42.090,1:43:47.550 it's two groups of morons who don't 1:43:44.220,1:43:51.440 realize what they're saying but there's 1:43:47.550,1:43:54.030 a good solid 35 percent chance that some 1:43:51.440,1:43:56.760 cloak-and-dagger stuff's happen in the 1:43:54.030,1:43:58.560 comment section here 1:43:56.760,1:44:00.780 yeah cuz we're I look at it the more I 1:43:58.560,1:44:02.520 think now they're just morons right I 1:44:00.780,1:44:05.250 was gonna say there's multiple like 1:44:02.520,1:44:06.750 levels to this and I'm like did they 1:44:05.250,1:44:10.140 realize they were doing that when they 1:44:06.750,1:44:11.310 wrote this or did they just write 1:44:10.140,1:44:13.440 something and put it out 1:44:11.310,1:44:15.930 right the thing everything's fine also 1:44:13.440,1:44:18.420 there's more stuff happening but also we 1:44:15.930,1:44:20.489 have we're fine and there's no strike 1:44:18.420,1:44:22.050 and everything's fine and then the 1:44:20.489,1:44:24.270 union's like this isn't a strike we're 1:44:22.050,1:44:26.040 just doing the Webster's dictionary 1:44:24.270,1:44:28.260 definition of striking but totally not a 1:44:26.040,1:44:30.620 strike and it's not the blue flu we're 1:44:28.260,1:44:34.110 all just calling out sick and we're cops 1:44:30.620,1:44:36.480 now real quick anybody who hasn't seen 1:44:34.110,1:44:41.760 this video I watched it did you watch it 1:44:36.480,1:44:44.370 I did watch it yeah a lot of people have 1:44:41.760,1:44:47.400 different opinions on yeah yeah what 1:44:44.370,1:44:49.200 happened like you know there's a scuffle 1:44:47.400,1:44:50.250 you know he takes the Taser you know he 1:44:49.200,1:44:51.780 fires the Taser 1:44:50.250,1:44:54.210 I thought he actually got one of them 1:44:51.780,1:44:57.000 I'm not 100% sure on that but I thought 1:44:54.210,1:44:59.820 he did I so I believe that it touched 1:44:57.000,1:45:01.500 him but it didn't actually shot him like 1:44:59.820,1:45:03.750 it yeah it didn't actually do whatever 1:45:01.500,1:45:07.680 it's called where where where there's an 1:45:03.750,1:45:09.480 actual conduction of electricity to the 1:45:07.680,1:45:11.190 person so I think it actually like hit 1:45:09.480,1:45:12.960 them but not in a way like it you know 1:45:11.190,1:45:14.790 it hit like if it hit my collar or 1:45:12.960,1:45:16.800 something and then he did it it wouldn't 1:45:14.790,1:45:18.510 actually conduct because it's not 1:45:16.800,1:45:19.860 touching me or something oh god now 1:45:18.510,1:45:22.590 we're gonna get those shooters clova 1:45:19.860,1:45:26.190 cool anyway uh you know something like 1:45:22.590,1:45:30.780 that like right okay so that makes sense 1:45:26.190,1:45:33.030 um and people you know people on the 1:45:30.780,1:45:34.350 Republican side or the Procop side I 1:45:33.030,1:45:36.989 guess would be the better way to put 1:45:34.350,1:45:40.500 that you know they were saying you know 1:45:36.989,1:45:43.380 he resisted arrest he he resisted arrest 1:45:40.500,1:45:46.790 he stole the Taser he attacked them and 1:45:43.380,1:45:50.640 then he tried to run so it's justifiable 1:45:46.790,1:45:52.710 and maybe not justifiable but at least a 1:45:50.640,1:45:55.860 lot more understanding than any of the 1:45:52.710,1:45:58.320 other cases that you've seen there is 1:45:55.860,1:46:00.239 not yet this is not the same so Lake 1:45:58.320,1:46:02.940 George Floyd the guy just literally 1:46:00.239,1:46:05.190 leaned on him and let him die like 1:46:02.940,1:46:06.960 casually murdered him slowly while his 1:46:05.190,1:46:08.910 hands were behind his back and it turns 1:46:06.960,1:46:10.050 out they might possibly known each other 1:46:08.910,1:46:13.409 and this may have been a grudge 1:46:10.050,1:46:16.889 like that's that's a totally different 1:46:13.409,1:46:18.449 thing Eric Garner's killing where he's 1:46:16.889,1:46:21.480 literally just saying this has to end 1:46:18.449,1:46:23.040 and they choke him out six of them Tamir 1:46:21.480,1:46:25.170 rice where they just roll up on a kid 1:46:23.040,1:46:28.050 with an obvious BB gun and and gunned 1:46:25.170,1:46:30.150 him down like John Crawford where a guy 1:46:28.050,1:46:33.290 with a frickin like obvious toy gun 1:46:30.150,1:46:35.790 walking through Walmart gets blasted by 1:46:33.290,1:46:39.809 officers with with you know with the 1:46:35.790,1:46:41.130 brothels this is his name he was 1:46:39.809,1:46:43.820 standing in his house and had a 1:46:41.130,1:46:48.570 screwdriver and he was like mentally 1:46:43.820,1:46:50.579 disabled Oh his name but they said put 1:46:48.570,1:46:52.199 down the screwdriver and he like wasn't 1:46:50.579,1:46:54.389 grasping what they were saying and they 1:46:52.199,1:46:56.579 shot him and they shot him Brianna 1:46:54.389,1:46:58.380 Taylor who was literally asleep in her 1:46:56.579,1:47:00.659 in her house 1:46:58.380,1:47:02.760 Duncan limp who was asleep in his house 1:47:00.659,1:47:04.079 I mean these are examples of the police 1:47:02.760,1:47:05.670 just feeling like screw it I'd rather 1:47:04.079,1:47:08.550 kill him they'd have to deal with them 1:47:05.670,1:47:09.960 this was a case where and we could get 1:47:08.550,1:47:11.429 into a whole discussion about if there 1:47:09.960,1:47:12.929 are better ways to deal with potential 1:47:11.429,1:47:15.059 duis especially when they're not 1:47:12.929,1:47:18.920 actually on the road but the bottom line 1:47:15.059,1:47:22.829 was it's still different in that they 1:47:18.920,1:47:24.300 had him pull over to the side they and I 1:47:22.829,1:47:27.389 will say this from the body cam footage 1:47:24.300,1:47:30.570 they were polite to him they said hey 1:47:27.389,1:47:33.090 please pull over please pull over and 1:47:30.570,1:47:34.260 then there was some conversation and 1:47:33.090,1:47:36.270 they said hey how about you get out of 1:47:34.260,1:47:38.610 the car for us because you're obviously 1:47:36.270,1:47:40.020 driving and granted they could've just 1:47:38.610,1:47:42.119 given him a ride home let him walk home 1:47:40.020,1:47:45.659 whatever we like that's whole other 1:47:42.119,1:47:48.540 levels but they were at least polite to 1:47:45.659,1:47:54.800 him throughout the process and having 1:47:48.540,1:47:54.800 gone through a number of DUI checks 1:47:57.110,1:48:03.599 should have failed all of them but 1:47:59.719,1:48:06.360 having only like they were nicer to him 1:48:03.599,1:48:11.040 and I've ever been treated during those 1:48:06.360,1:48:12.270 checkpoints okay uh so I was I was 1:48:11.040,1:48:13.139 watching going okay this they're 1:48:12.270,1:48:14.460 actually treating him pretty well 1:48:13.139,1:48:18.630 they're treating they're they're doing 1:48:14.460,1:48:20.489 what they should hear and then when they 1:48:18.630,1:48:22.500 went to arrest on which I thought okay 1:48:20.489,1:48:24.690 do you really need to do that he was in 1:48:22.500,1:48:26.460 right on like and he was in his car in a 1:48:24.690,1:48:29.180 car was running and it was in the 1:48:26.460,1:48:31.800 drive-thru line and he was asleep but 1:48:29.180,1:48:33.810 told him pullover side road you could 1:48:31.800,1:48:35.580 sleep you could sleep it off here and 1:48:33.810,1:48:38.730 then he started talking which just 1:48:35.580,1:48:43.290 teaches you should and there's a lesson 1:48:38.730,1:48:45.180 behind that but what keep going and then 1:48:43.290,1:48:47.550 that was when he started resisting and 1:48:45.180,1:48:48.780 then everything accelerated from there 1:48:47.550,1:48:52.110 now 1:48:48.780,1:48:53.640 a lot of people on the Prokop side I 1:48:52.110,1:48:56.010 don't want to say the right because it's 1:48:53.640,1:48:57.690 different now yeah yeah everything's 1:48:56.010,1:48:59.640 different now but yeah the Prokop side 1:48:57.690,1:49:02.370 you know cop side they're saying you 1:48:59.640,1:49:04.920 know this is not the same thing these 1:49:02.370,1:49:05.460 people shouldn't be charged maybe maybe 1:49:04.920,1:49:07.290 not 1:49:05.460,1:49:10.980 but do I think that a jury should make 1:49:07.290,1:49:12.540 this decision yes that's fair yeah I 1:49:10.980,1:49:14.460 think a jury should make this decision 1:49:12.540,1:49:17.550 and it shouldn't just be left up to the 1:49:14.460,1:49:21.740 DA but what a lot of them are saying is 1:49:17.550,1:49:23.700 that Paul Howard the DA from Atlanta is 1:49:21.740,1:49:26.340 having his accounting on the shooting 1:49:23.700,1:49:27.450 brought into question and many are 1:49:26.340,1:49:30.630 saying that since he is up for 1:49:27.450,1:49:34.020 re-election this year he is looking to 1:49:30.630,1:49:36.060 ensure his victory in Atlanta by 1:49:34.020,1:49:38.040 throwing a cop under the bus even if 1:49:36.060,1:49:40.950 that is a consideration of political 1:49:38.040,1:49:43.440 consideration which by the way that's 1:49:40.950,1:49:45.810 how politics is supposed to work that's 1:49:43.440,1:49:49.500 how the democratic system in theory is 1:49:45.810,1:49:50.550 supposed to work if the people if you 1:49:49.500,1:49:53.070 know the people are gonna want an 1:49:50.550,1:49:56.820 outcome you give them the outcome now 1:49:53.070,1:49:58.230 throw cops under the bus they still 1:49:56.820,1:50:01.200 killed someone who was running away and 1:49:58.230,1:50:03.390 they are trained where you're told we 1:50:01.200,1:50:05.360 are trained to deal with these types of 1:50:03.390,1:50:09.480 situations although in my last episode 1:50:05.360,1:50:11.460 with Antonio Okafor Kover and TIG Davis 1:50:09.480,1:50:13.140 talking about self-protection and the 1:50:11.460,1:50:15.450 police and the Second Amendment 1:50:13.140,1:50:17.970 tig explained to me that most police 1:50:15.450,1:50:22.980 departments don't give ongoing training 1:50:17.970,1:50:25.740 for free and it's not mandatory they can 1:50:22.980,1:50:29.780 get it but it's not mandatory and if 1:50:25.740,1:50:33.810 they want it they have to pay for it 1:50:29.780,1:50:35.880 you scared yet there was something like 1:50:33.810,1:50:36.389 2 million police officers roam in the 1:50:35.880,1:50:38.369 country 1:50:36.389,1:50:39.689 most of whom are not getting ongoing 1:50:38.369,1:50:40.889 training and if they do want it they 1:50:39.689,1:50:44.189 have to pay for it out of their own 1:50:40.889,1:50:47.219 pockets they have guns and they have 1:50:44.189,1:50:49.110 presumed authority to use them you can't 1:50:47.219,1:50:51.599 sue them if they think what they did was 1:50:49.110,1:50:54.749 reasonable they're not getting any 1:50:51.599,1:50:58.619 training though they are getting lots of 1:50:54.749,1:51:01.139 military equipment so hopefully that 1:50:58.619,1:51:04.829 makes you feel better right they are 1:51:01.139,1:51:06.840 getting tanks training it stretched the 1:51:04.829,1:51:09.059 budget tanks yes they are getting tanks 1:51:06.840,1:51:11.999 they are getting things there was 1:51:09.059,1:51:13.260 something on I thought on Twitter I was 1:51:11.999,1:51:15.209 gonna include it but I knew it was gonna 1:51:13.260,1:51:17.219 be some small town just got this 1:51:15.209,1:51:19.199 freaking like Mine Resistant vehicle and 1:51:17.219,1:51:22.019 and it's like just like a town 1:51:19.199,1:51:23.729 population of 6,000 or some three they 1:51:22.019,1:51:25.260 got it for free and they were you know 1:51:23.729,1:51:26.399 why did we get it because someone else 1:51:25.260,1:51:28.050 would have gotten it what the hell are 1:51:26.399,1:51:31.260 you going to do with this thing other 1:51:28.050,1:51:33.329 than put it on parades hopefully that's 1:51:31.260,1:51:38.820 all they do is roll it down on parades 1:51:33.329,1:51:40.679 and scare everyone now two things one 1:51:38.820,1:51:42.360 Kelly K and the comment said did you 1:51:40.679,1:51:43.829 guys know he shot three times in the 1:51:42.360,1:51:46.169 third bullet hit a vehicle in the 1:51:43.829,1:51:48.510 drive-thru yes I honestly thought I put 1:51:46.169,1:51:52.229 that in here is that the officer that 1:51:48.510,1:51:53.789 that shot at him yeah yeah yeah he shot 1:51:52.229,1:51:55.530 three times like I really thought that I 1:51:53.789,1:51:58.919 put that in here but apparently I 1:51:55.530,1:52:00.360 skipped it or I put it in when I had it 1:51:58.919,1:52:05.039 in the original section and it didn't 1:52:00.360,1:52:07.260 copy and paste over so I was just so ho 1:52:05.039,1:52:08.699 uh Monica Holcomb says there should be a 1:52:07.260,1:52:10.530 different way to deal with a drunk his 1:52:08.699,1:52:13.019 family said he asked to walk over to his 1:52:10.530,1:52:15.119 sister's house who lived nearby so this 1:52:13.019,1:52:17.219 is a perfect example in a more 1:52:15.119,1:52:19.769 restorative justice type of situation 1:52:17.219,1:52:21.570 the way you would deal with that is you 1:52:19.769,1:52:23.820 would say hey it looks like you 1:52:21.570,1:52:28.619 shouldn't be driving why don't you pull 1:52:23.820,1:52:31.169 over there and either and and this might 1:52:28.619,1:52:33.689 be the punishment will tow your car and 1:52:31.169,1:52:35.280 you have to pay for that or if the owner 1:52:33.689,1:52:37.110 of this property is okay with you 1:52:35.280,1:52:38.999 leaving your car there then you can 1:52:37.110,1:52:40.649 leave your car there and we'll take you 1:52:38.999,1:52:42.419 somewhere or if it's right up the road 1:52:40.649,1:52:44.070 you can just go there and then come back 1:52:42.419,1:52:45.689 and retrieve your car and that way 1:52:44.070,1:52:48.749 you're not on the road and now this 1:52:45.689,1:52:49.949 person doesn't have a record of a char 1:52:48.749,1:52:51.389 John their record 1:52:49.949,1:52:53.010 they have been stopped from driving 1:52:51.389,1:52:53.820 drunk which is necessary 1:52:53.010,1:52:55.199 they've been stopped from driving 1:52:53.820,1:52:57.030 impaired but they don't have something 1:52:55.199,1:52:59.340 on the record that's going to put a 1:52:57.030,1:53:00.929 financial burden on their life and now 1:52:59.340,1:53:03.480 make it so that it's harder for them to 1:53:00.929,1:53:05.610 get ahead and they might you know and 1:53:03.480,1:53:07.110 now if now their insurance cost too much 1:53:05.610,1:53:10.760 because of they have to get the SPECIAL 1:53:07.110,1:53:15.330 DUI insurance I forget what it's called 1:53:10.760,1:53:17.730 there's like a work what's that sr22 1:53:15.330,1:53:19.020 insurance and that you you know and you 1:53:17.730,1:53:20.969 can't afford it so now you can't drive 1:53:19.020,1:53:22.650 and you might lose your job as a result 1:53:20.969,1:53:24.119 of it or if you have a job or if you 1:53:22.650,1:53:25.500 have a charge like that on your record 1:53:24.119,1:53:27.570 you lose your job what you're gonna 1:53:25.500,1:53:29.219 drive you to drink more instead of doing 1:53:27.570,1:53:31.380 this like punish people just for the 1:53:29.219,1:53:34.679 sake of it way of looking at things 1:53:31.380,1:53:36.570 instead be more restorative about it hey 1:53:34.679,1:53:38.190 you shouldn't be driving why don't you 1:53:36.570,1:53:40.710 put your car over there and then you can 1:53:38.190,1:53:41.940 go home or hey you know what we're gonna 1:53:40.710,1:53:42.989 have to make you pay for your car to be 1:53:41.940,1:53:44.820 towed because you shouldn't be driving 1:53:42.989,1:53:46.139 right now and the property owner doesn't 1:53:44.820,1:53:47.610 want your car here so it's gonna cost 1:53:46.139,1:53:50.010 you a couple hundred bucks but we're not 1:53:47.610,1:53:51.780 gonna ruin your life but maybe you 1:53:50.010,1:53:53.429 shouldn't drive drunk anymore because 1:53:51.780,1:53:54.810 you know it's just cost you a couple 1:53:53.429,1:53:56.699 hundred bucks or three hundred bucks or 1:53:54.810,1:53:58.440 whatever that would be an example of 1:53:56.699,1:54:00.420 where someone is still in some way 1:53:58.440,1:54:02.550 getting punished or not being allowed to 1:54:00.420,1:54:04.349 drive drunk at the very least but their 1:54:02.550,1:54:07.679 life's not being ruined and they're not 1:54:04.349,1:54:11.429 now fearing going to jail and making 1:54:07.679,1:54:14.159 panic decisions while drunk which result 1:54:11.429,1:54:15.690 in them being in this case killed or if 1:54:14.159,1:54:17.070 they hadn't killed him being charged 1:54:15.690,1:54:19.860 with a whole slew of other things and 1:54:17.070,1:54:22.560 ending up in jail for years right which 1:54:19.860,1:54:23.909 John Hurt Lee says earlier the 1:54:22.560,1:54:25.349 breathalyzer question should not be 1:54:23.909,1:54:26.760 asked and for anybody who doesn't know 1:54:25.349,1:54:28.889 the question is do you consent to a 1:54:26.760,1:54:31.980 breathalyzer you can say yes you can say 1:54:28.889,1:54:34.020 no now he follows it up with if you're 1:54:31.980,1:54:36.449 drunk your judgment is impaired so 1:54:34.020,1:54:39.030 there's really no consent because I'm 1:54:36.449,1:54:43.020 not sure about every state but I know in 1:54:39.030,1:54:46.260 all of them ah I have been if you're a 1:54:43.020,1:54:49.760 drunk you cannot cannot sign a contract 1:54:46.260,1:54:52.590 you can't correct you you can't consent 1:54:49.760,1:54:57.360 so you cannot consent to a breathalyzer 1:54:52.590,1:54:58.980 when drunk yeah you can but Chris 1:54:57.360,1:55:00.780 Reynolds is right in the comments where 1:54:58.980,1:55:03.240 he says but the state needs that DUI 1:55:00.780,1:55:05.100 money because on average 1:55:03.240,1:55:07.230 and this could be different from the 1:55:05.100,1:55:09.450 last time that I looked into it because 1:55:07.230,1:55:18.060 I had been sober now for almost six 1:55:09.450,1:55:24.180 years it costs roughly ten grand anytime 1:55:18.060,1:55:30.210 you get a DUI which is absurd that's the 1:55:24.180,1:55:33.150 average I mean it's it's and it's more 1:55:30.210,1:55:35.700 likely to affect those who can't afford 1:55:33.150,1:55:37.140 that so if you're super wealthy you're 1:55:35.700,1:55:38.370 driving in your Ferrari and you get 1:55:37.140,1:55:40.140 pulled over and it cost you all this 1:55:38.370,1:55:42.090 money it's an inconvenience and you're 1:55:40.140,1:55:43.230 pissed off but you'll be fine and you're 1:55:42.090,1:55:44.970 also more likely to be able to have 1:55:43.230,1:55:47.040 someone like hire someone to drive you 1:55:44.970,1:55:48.210 or drive your car you have a chauffeur 1:55:47.040,1:55:50.520 or whatever so you can get drunk and 1:55:48.210,1:55:52.770 party like a rock star all weekend long 1:55:50.520,1:55:55.020 or whatever this is affecting people who 1:55:52.770,1:55:59.220 can't afford it and it's ruining their 1:55:55.020,1:56:01.260 lives for no good reason and I used to 1:55:59.220,1:56:03.030 be a law-and-order person and I hear the 1:56:01.260,1:56:04.800 law-and-order person inside of me going 1:56:03.030,1:56:07.590 yeah but the whole point of that is to 1:56:04.800,1:56:12.950 deter them from doing it when your life 1:56:07.590,1:56:18.360 is so on the precipice of being ruined 1:56:12.950,1:56:20.400 you become hopeless you end up in bad 1:56:18.360,1:56:23.040 situations because you're not thinking 1:56:20.400,1:56:24.360 in it in this well I have to do this or 1:56:23.040,1:56:26.550 it's going to prevent that your one 1:56:24.360,1:56:29.430 paycheck away from losing everything 1:56:26.550,1:56:31.920 so you just not necessarily make the 1:56:29.430,1:56:34.290 best choices and how amazing would it be 1:56:31.920,1:56:36.210 if we had a system of justice that 1:56:34.290,1:56:41.550 instead of pounding you while you're 1:56:36.210,1:56:43.740 down says hey listen you're drunk you 1:56:41.550,1:56:45.870 shouldn't be driving let's see if you 1:56:43.740,1:56:46.770 can leave your car here and if you can't 1:56:45.870,1:56:48.450 you're gonna have to pay to have your 1:56:46.770,1:56:53.220 car towed because you can't leave it 1:56:48.450,1:56:56.340 here that's trespassing but you get to 1:56:53.220,1:56:58.320 go home and you sober up and you don't 1:56:56.340,1:57:00.060 have a record and you don't have to pay 1:56:58.320,1:57:03.150 to get bailed out and we're not gonna 1:57:00.060,1:57:04.740 give you a hard time and you know if 1:57:03.150,1:57:06.510 this keeps happening there's gonna be a 1:57:04.740,1:57:08.910 problem and and you know we may have to 1:57:06.510,1:57:11.820 look at your license but you know right 1:57:08.910,1:57:13.560 now we're gonna just get you home and 1:57:11.820,1:57:14.850 get you off the streets especially in 1:57:13.560,1:57:16.530 this situation where he wasn't even on 1:57:14.850,1:57:17.570 the street in the first place he was 1:57:16.530,1:57:19.700 asleep 1:57:17.570,1:57:21.170 let him get out of his car and go home 1:57:19.700,1:57:23.700 yeah 1:57:21.170,1:57:26.370 restorative justice is the idea that if 1:57:23.700,1:57:28.860 you if here's another example petty 1:57:26.370,1:57:30.150 theft instead of throwing a poor person 1:57:28.860,1:57:33.030 in jail because they can't afford the 1:57:30.150,1:57:34.170 fines which then are still there and 1:57:33.030,1:57:37.260 when they get out of jail they now have 1:57:34.170,1:57:38.790 interest find out a payment plan so that 1:57:37.260,1:57:40.260 they can pay back for the theft or just 1:57:38.790,1:57:42.210 tell them to give it back and pay some 1:57:40.260,1:57:43.950 kind of fine and give them time to pay 1:57:42.210,1:57:45.030 it and then don't have something on 1:57:43.950,1:57:47.280 their record that makes it impossible 1:57:45.030,1:57:49.620 for them to find a job so that they now 1:57:47.280,1:57:51.420 don't have to keep robbing people to 1:57:49.620,1:57:53.790 make a living don't take away their 1:57:51.420,1:57:57.000 ability to thrive let them learn from 1:57:53.790,1:57:59.070 the mistake restore from it restore any 1:57:57.000,1:58:01.020 harm or damage that was done or theft 1:57:59.070,1:58:02.850 that was done to the victim so that 1:58:01.020,1:58:05.400 their whole and now allow the the 1:58:02.850,1:58:08.310 perpetrator to learn from it because 1:58:05.400,1:58:10.200 they're a human too and they can now go 1:58:08.310,1:58:12.090 and thrive instead of having their life 1:58:10.200,1:58:14.850 ruined which if you're a fiscal 1:58:12.090,1:58:16.820 conservative costs way more than just 1:58:14.850,1:58:20.550 helping them in that immediate situation 1:58:16.820,1:58:22.140 right now according to legal consultant 1:58:20.550,1:58:24.420 Chris Reynolds personal injury attorney 1:58:22.140,1:58:25.590 Christmas we added that now not only is 1:58:24.420,1:58:27.240 he personal injury attorney Chris 1:58:25.590,1:58:29.040 Reynolds attorney at law he is legal 1:58:27.240,1:58:32.280 consultant personal injury attorney 1:58:29.040,1:58:33.900 Chris Reynolds attorney now it was kind 1:58:32.280,1:58:37.890 of something that was mentioned like in 1:58:33.900,1:58:40.700 passing that I agreed but he said that 1:58:37.890,1:58:44.790 he would be happy to join the show yes 1:58:40.700,1:58:48.600 discuss legal issues that you and I not 1:58:44.790,1:58:50.190 being trained would have he would have a 1:58:48.600,1:58:53.640 much better viewpoint than you and I 1:58:50.190,1:58:58.140 ever would on it but he's yes next 1:58:53.640,1:59:00.000 episode 100% yeah totally down yeah he 1:58:58.140,1:59:01.980 said that you are more likely to get put 1:59:00.000,1:59:04.320 in jail for driving without a license 1:59:01.980,1:59:07.620 and subsequently you eyes and it's hard 1:59:04.320,1:59:12.810 to get out of the cycle and yes yes it 1:59:07.620,1:59:16.050 is cuz I know when did I lose my license 1:59:12.810,1:59:18.330 I lost my license a couple of times and 1:59:16.050,1:59:20.370 I know that I continue driving because I 1:59:18.330,1:59:23.300 had to get to work I had bills to pay 1:59:20.370,1:59:28.640 luckily I did not get pulled over 1:59:23.300,1:59:30.540 anytime that I didn't have my license 1:59:28.640,1:59:32.490 but 1:59:30.540,1:59:34.260 I know tons of people who do and they 1:59:32.490,1:59:36.720 end up going to jail and then they have 1:59:34.260,1:59:38.790 to pay those fees they're losing their 1:59:36.720,1:59:40.500 jobs because they're not going to work 1:59:38.790,1:59:41.850 because they're in jail or they can't 1:59:40.500,1:59:43.620 make it there because they don't have 1:59:41.850,1:59:46.230 licenses after that and there's no way 1:59:43.620,1:59:47.940 they're gonna be driving and they end up 1:59:46.230,1:59:50.580 just falling deeper and deeper into that 1:59:47.940,1:59:52.830 hole which causes people oddly enough to 1:59:50.580,1:59:55.290 drink more to make more bad decisions 1:59:52.830,1:59:57.660 cuz their life's ruined exactly right 1:59:55.290,1:59:59.160 and we're even in MIT because people go 1:59:57.660,2:00:00.990 well they shouldn't have done the first 1:59:59.160,2:00:02.310 thing the bad thing first you're 2:00:00.990,2:00:04.560 absolutely right they shouldn't have 2:00:02.310,2:00:08.490 done what humans do all the time bad 2:00:04.560,2:00:11.130 choices right I am grateful that I 2:00:08.490,2:00:13.320 didn't get pulled over many times that's 2:00:11.130,2:00:15.930 all I have to say about that but what I 2:00:13.320,2:00:20.010 will say is this we all make mistakes 2:00:15.930,2:00:23.070 and some of us are more likely to get 2:00:20.010,2:00:25.230 are statistically more likely to get 2:00:23.070,2:00:27.180 held up for those mistakes than others 2:00:25.230,2:00:29.670 but even if we all were the same 2:00:27.180,2:00:31.290 likelihood regardless of our income 2:00:29.670,2:00:32.850 regardless of our race regardless of 2:00:31.290,2:00:35.430 what neighborhood we live in regardless 2:00:32.850,2:00:37.920 of our ethnicity or sexual identity or 2:00:35.430,2:00:39.540 gender identity or whatever even if we 2:00:37.920,2:00:41.130 were all in an even playing field I 2:00:39.540,2:00:42.480 would still prefer a system that tells 2:00:41.130,2:00:46.470 people when they make mistakes 2:00:42.480,2:00:48.420 hey let's rectify this you robbed this 2:00:46.470,2:00:50.190 person okay do you still have it give it 2:00:48.420,2:00:52.590 back to them and you're also gonna have 2:00:50.190,2:00:55.680 to pay something for the fact not to us 2:00:52.590,2:00:57.180 but to them for the fact that you 2:00:55.680,2:00:58.530 deprived them of that thing that you 2:00:57.180,2:01:01.560 took from them for whatever period of 2:00:58.530,2:01:05.040 time you had it not to us but to them 2:01:01.560,2:01:06.510 the actual victim and you know what we 2:01:05.040,2:01:08.130 actually have a training thing that 2:01:06.510,2:01:11.130 costs way less than putting you in jail 2:01:08.130,2:01:13.590 for ten years or five years and it's a 2:01:11.130,2:01:16.920 training that you know we'll talk to you 2:01:13.590,2:01:18.870 about why you shouldn't steal and maybe 2:01:16.920,2:01:21.150 there's some resources to help you which 2:01:18.870,2:01:22.860 again because I hear the people going 2:01:21.150,2:01:26.090 but there's no jobs program cost way 2:01:22.860,2:01:28.770 less than putting someone in jail and 2:01:26.090,2:01:30.630 doesn't result in someone having their 2:01:28.770,2:01:32.790 life ruined and almost assuredly 2:01:30.630,2:01:35.070 becoming a ward of the state as a result 2:01:32.790,2:01:37.710 of it instead they can go and learn from 2:01:35.070,2:01:43.080 it as a kid and thrive like wealthy 2:01:37.710,2:01:44.400 people do when they make mistakes let 2:01:43.080,2:01:47.670 people learn from their mistake 2:01:44.400,2:01:50.370 and move ahead in this situation we 2:01:47.670,2:01:53.610 don't want a very drunk person or very 2:01:50.370,2:01:57.000 high person on the streets so get them 2:01:53.610,2:02:00.450 off the streets if it becomes a routine 2:01:57.000,2:02:03.030 thing where it keeps happening well this 2:02:00.450,2:02:06.180 sounds like a mental health issue or an 2:02:03.030,2:02:08.250 addiction issue or a trauma issue let's 2:02:06.180,2:02:10.980 deal with that because there aren't a 2:02:08.250,2:02:12.570 lot of people who go hey I'm such a jerk 2:02:10.980,2:02:14.220 that I want to go make the roads 2:02:12.570,2:02:17.880 dangerous for myself and everyone around 2:02:14.220,2:02:20.340 me that is a manifestation of something 2:02:17.880,2:02:22.140 bad and you can do one of two things you 2:02:20.340,2:02:25.200 can ruin their life as a result of it 2:02:22.140,2:02:27.090 and ensure that they will now be a ward 2:02:25.200,2:02:28.740 of the state for the rest of their life 2:02:27.090,2:02:30.810 and not able to really contribute 2:02:28.740,2:02:33.060 anything which costs way more and helps 2:02:30.810,2:02:35.730 no one or you can deal with whatever 2:02:33.060,2:02:37.440 that thing is so that they can move 2:02:35.730,2:02:39.120 forward in life and of course in a 2:02:37.440,2:02:40.800 voluntary Society we'd be much more 2:02:39.120,2:02:42.420 likely to do this because we'd be doing 2:02:40.800,2:02:44.310 it voluntarily instead of having taxes 2:02:42.420,2:02:46.260 taken from us to pay for it because when 2:02:44.310,2:02:48.210 taxes are taken from us to pay for we're 2:02:46.260,2:02:49.590 more likely to be vindictive and say I 2:02:48.210,2:02:50.490 don't want to pay for their life to be 2:02:49.590,2:02:52.380 better they shouldn't have done that 2:02:50.490,2:02:54.780 thing I want them to be punished for it 2:02:52.380,2:02:57.590 and that's why we have the system we 2:02:54.780,2:03:00.840 have we need restorative justice 2:02:57.590,2:03:02.820 Ethan Bishop henchman in the comments he 2:03:00.840,2:03:04.290 said turn them over to associations and 2:03:02.820,2:03:07.770 community groups to sponsor their 2:03:04.290,2:03:10.320 treatment and Rehab exactly yes yes 2:03:07.770,2:03:11.850 and Ethan thank you for watching yeah 2:03:10.320,2:03:14.280 Ethan thank you for watching Ethan 2:03:11.850,2:03:16.790 Bishop henchman perfect example I cannot 2:03:14.280,2:03:20.580 remember is it Episcopalian Lutheran 2:03:16.790,2:03:24.990 Presbyterian it's one of those I am 2:03:20.580,2:03:27.720 certain that your church you took off 2:03:24.990,2:03:32.550 church's coffee I'm certain your church 2:03:27.720,2:03:36.890 or your parish or your Bishop 'dom I am 2:03:32.550,2:03:39.630 not good at this but your non-jewish 2:03:36.890,2:03:42.120 what you call your place of worship 2:03:39.630,2:03:45.150 would be more than happy to help people 2:03:42.120,2:03:47.520 who are in this situation with this 2:03:45.150,2:03:50.070 exact type of thing Episcopalian I knew 2:03:47.520,2:03:53.610 it Episcopalian that was the first one I 2:03:50.070,2:03:56.190 said right yes I think yes because I 2:03:53.610,2:03:58.080 knew it I knew it was Episcopalian I 2:03:56.190,2:04:01.170 should never second-guess myself 2:03:58.080,2:04:03.540 and so the I'm certain that your church 2:04:01.170,2:04:04.290 would be more than happy to help with 2:04:03.540,2:04:06.690 this type of a thing 2:04:04.290,2:04:13.920 much more than they would want for their 2:04:06.690,2:04:16.470 parishioners to be taxed to to pay for 2:04:13.920,2:04:18.300 people to have their life's ruins Ethan 2:04:16.470,2:04:23.820 Ethan is talking about the Protestant 2:04:18.300,2:04:26.370 gays fun story I don't even remember it 2:04:23.820,2:04:29.010 oh yeah no so we did an AMA I did an AMA 2:04:26.370,2:04:33.180 with with Ethan and his husband Joe 2:04:29.010,2:04:35.040 Bishop henchmen and - it was it was 2:04:33.180,2:04:37.020 geared towards the the pragmatist caucus 2:04:35.040,2:04:39.180 but it was anyone can watch it and it 2:04:37.020,2:04:41.460 was to talk about my run for vice 2:04:39.180,2:04:42.660 president and why I thought I should get 2:04:41.460,2:04:44.220 the nomination and it must have worked 2:04:42.660,2:04:50.070 thanks again guys 2:04:44.220,2:04:52.410 but the in in it I talked about Calvin 2:04:50.070,2:04:55.500 Coolidge and we talked about how dire he 2:04:52.410,2:04:58.560 was how'd our he was and out and I said 2:04:55.500,2:05:00.930 the Protestant gays meaning the 2:04:58.560,2:05:02.820 Protestant gate look when you gaze at 2:05:00.930,2:05:05.280 someone with your eyes disapprovingly 2:05:02.820,2:05:11.250 and that's an actual term the protestant 2:05:05.280,2:05:14.730 gaze i said the protestant gaze Ethan 2:05:11.250,2:05:25.130 and Joe got the weirdest look on their 2:05:14.730,2:05:25.130 face Ethan and Joe being both a 2:05:25.370,2:05:31.110 homosexual and Protestant thought I was 2:05:29.250,2:05:33.350 doing some kind of weird flex on them or 2:05:31.110,2:05:36.030 something I'm not 100% sure what you 2:05:33.350,2:05:38.700 what you what you thought I was trying 2:05:36.030,2:05:43.650 to accomplish there but I I said 2:05:38.700,2:05:45.120 Protestant gays they looked a little now 2:05:43.650,2:05:46.980 I would say off but I think they didn't 2:05:45.120,2:05:48.330 know what to think and so I thought oh 2:05:46.980,2:05:51.840 they must not have heard of the 2:05:48.330,2:05:54.420 Protestant gays before and so went 2:05:51.840,2:05:56.180 through the entire episode to the entire 2:05:54.420,2:06:00.510 AMA had a great time and then afterwards 2:05:56.180,2:06:04.140 they said I don't even remember how it 2:06:00.510,2:06:05.700 came up but they went you know why did 2:06:04.140,2:06:09.240 you bring up that word Protestant gays 2:06:05.700,2:06:11.700 or something like that and I said no 2:06:09.240,2:06:14.520 that gays guys that that's like 2:06:11.700,2:06:17.760 with the with your and so the best part 2:06:14.520,2:06:20.250 about that is that for the better and 2:06:17.760,2:06:21.720 they were so kind about it and that made 2:06:20.250,2:06:24.420 me respect the two of them much more 2:06:21.720,2:06:26.190 because I said something that if I had 2:06:24.420,2:06:28.050 been in their situation and had not 2:06:26.190,2:06:30.300 known what I was talking about I would 2:06:28.050,2:06:34.320 have thought is he trying to be snarky 2:06:30.300,2:06:36.570 with us and they were so gracious about 2:06:34.320,2:06:39.530 it and let it roll off their off their 2:06:36.570,2:06:41.970 their back like got like a duck that I 2:06:39.530,2:06:45.200 I'm grateful for that 2:06:41.970,2:06:56.300 thank you for your your your Protestant 2:06:45.200,2:07:01.220 grace grac II right just making sure so 2:06:56.300,2:07:01.220 here we go got some questions here 2:07:01.230,2:07:06.270 what are you Andrew William Brown says 2:07:03.780,2:07:11.510 what are your stances on people I love 2:07:06.270,2:07:14.130 them they are the power Opie 'pl people 2:07:11.510,2:07:17.720 my stance is that I'm spike Cohen and 2:07:14.130,2:07:17.720 you are the power 2:07:18.410,2:07:22.290 Christopher McQueen says I was put on 2:07:20.610,2:07:25.140 two years probation for a first offense 2:07:22.290,2:07:27.600 DUI in Texas County Missouri went to 2:07:25.140,2:07:29.130 jail twice for violating probation on 2:07:27.600,2:07:30.210 minor offenses had to pay eighty two 2:07:29.130,2:07:32.400 dollars a month for the breathalyzer 2:07:30.210,2:07:34.680 forty a month for probation fees and 2:07:32.400,2:07:37.320 raised insurance costs exactly they get 2:07:34.680,2:07:39.240 you on that probation no you man they 2:07:37.320,2:07:40.740 put they get you on that probation and 2:07:39.240,2:07:42.450 it's like okay you already made them 2:07:40.740,2:07:43.770 this mistake now we're gonna make it so 2:07:42.450,2:07:48.720 that if you if you make a similar 2:07:43.770,2:07:51.960 mistake or any mistake we're gonna 2:07:48.720,2:07:54.570 really like harm you your life like a 2:07:51.960,2:07:55.980 lot and especially if you're in smaller 2:07:54.570,2:07:57.990 towns police already know who you are 2:07:55.980,2:07:59.400 they know you got probation they know 2:07:57.990,2:08:00.750 they can get an easy collar if they can 2:07:59.400,2:08:01.950 catch you doing something you know 2:08:00.750,2:08:03.690 something maybe you shouldn't be doing 2:08:01.950,2:08:07.350 something that really isn't even 2:08:03.690,2:08:10.230 anyone's business it's just it's just 2:08:07.350,2:08:13.170 it's here it's like it is it's not just 2:08:10.230,2:08:15.870 punitive justice it is destructive 2:08:13.170,2:08:18.600 justice I think Ethan Ethan called it 2:08:15.870,2:08:20.420 regressive justice it's just it is using 2:08:18.600,2:08:23.730 justice as a means of dragging people 2:08:20.420,2:08:25.590 into poverty or if they're already in 2:08:23.730,2:08:28.050 poverty making sure they remain 2:08:25.590,2:08:29.969 in poverty and have no means to get out 2:08:28.050,2:08:32.429 of it it is just a vindictive and 2:08:29.969,2:08:33.030 cynical way of looking at your fellow 2:08:32.429,2:08:34.380 person 2:08:33.030,2:08:36.179 so I guess maybe that was what what are 2:08:34.380,2:08:37.320 your stances on people my stances on 2:08:36.179,2:08:39.389 people is that we should be a lot more 2:08:37.320,2:08:42.420 kind to them and that justice should be 2:08:39.389,2:08:43.590 about leading to less harm in the future 2:08:42.420,2:08:48.150 than there would have been with our 2:08:43.590,2:08:50.340 current system if Thomas Gambel says if 2:08:48.150,2:08:52.860 you're unhappy with war wasted tax 2:08:50.340,2:08:55.679 dollars marginal quality overpriced 2:08:52.860,2:08:56.940 health care falling education ratings 2:08:55.679,2:08:58.560 and less control of your life stop 2:08:56.940,2:08:59.969 voting for the two parties that have 2:08:58.560,2:09:02.580 been in control of America for the last 2:08:59.969,2:09:04.409 150 years I'm voting for dr. Joe 2:09:02.580,2:09:06.510 Jorgenson to bring our service members 2:09:04.409,2:09:08.670 home restore individual liberty and 2:09:06.510,2:09:11.670 constitutional governments hashtag Joe 2:09:08.670,2:09:13.500 2020 hashtag team Joe hashtag vote Gold 2:09:11.670,2:09:15.239 hashtag libertarian thanks for your 2:09:13.500,2:09:17.940 support Thomas that means a lot 2:09:15.239,2:09:18.900 Craig decosta says I tell my clients 2:09:17.940,2:09:20.730 this all the time 2:09:18.900,2:09:23.570 I point out how my fees are a hundred 2:09:20.730,2:09:27.570 times more than the most expensive uber 2:09:23.570,2:09:29.099 / lyft oso / lift ride they can imagine 2:09:27.570,2:09:31.260 unfortunately it already happened also I 2:09:29.099,2:09:33.210 tried using uber in my country ass 2:09:31.260,2:09:34.860 location and they were not running by 2:09:33.210,2:09:36.599 the time I was done drinking good thing 2:09:34.860,2:09:38.280 a friend drove me home and this is the 2:09:36.599,2:09:41.099 thing like we need to just look at this 2:09:38.280,2:09:41.760 as someone did something that isn't the 2:09:41.099,2:09:47.570 best idea 2:09:41.760,2:09:49.949 let's fix it and now make it so that 2:09:47.570,2:09:53.849 whoever may have been victimized by this 2:09:49.949,2:09:56.099 situation can be made whole to whatever 2:09:53.849,2:09:59.099 extent possible and the person who did 2:09:56.099,2:10:01.889 it can learn from it and do better in 2:09:59.099,2:10:04.560 the future and maybe we find that 2:10:01.889,2:10:09.239 there's something that caused them to do 2:10:04.560,2:10:10.800 that that can be dealt with so that they 2:10:09.239,2:10:11.909 don't do it in the future and the law 2:10:10.800,2:10:13.980 and order people go well that's that's 2:10:11.909,2:10:15.980 gonna make people go and commit crimes 2:10:13.980,2:10:18.119 to get help no it's not 2:10:15.980,2:10:19.889 no one wants interactions with the 2:10:18.119,2:10:22.199 police for no reason it's not gonna make 2:10:19.889,2:10:25.050 people people who are otherwise okay are 2:10:22.199,2:10:27.270 not gonna go out and commit crimes and 2:10:25.050,2:10:29.909 risk interactions with the police in 2:10:27.270,2:10:32.159 order to get some help and if you're 2:10:29.909,2:10:33.599 worried that they might do that well 2:10:32.159,2:10:35.699 then that's a great idea to get rid of 2:10:33.599,2:10:38.040 the laws that make it hard for voluntary 2:10:35.699,2:10:39.480 organizations to help people before they 2:10:38.040,2:10:42.989 do cries for help like that 2:10:39.480,2:10:45.630 what a fantastic segue into ending the 2:10:42.989,2:10:47.340 all of the ridiculous health and labor 2:10:45.630,2:10:49.860 department restrictions that make it 2:10:47.340,2:10:51.450 nearly impossible in most states to be 2:10:49.860,2:10:54.180 able to help people without having to 2:10:51.450,2:10:55.860 spend tens or thousands or tens of 2:10:54.180,2:10:57.150 thousands of dollars in absurd 2:10:55.860,2:10:58.980 compliance costs for no good reason 2:10:57.150,2:11:00.810 other than to prevent people from being 2:10:58.980,2:11:02.780 able to help each other now 2:11:00.810,2:11:05.610 whether what I've always said is that 2:11:02.780,2:11:09.600 driving drunk shouldn't be shouldn't be 2:11:05.610,2:11:13.980 a serious crime unless you hurt somebody 2:11:09.600,2:11:16.020 or something while doing so if you hurt 2:11:13.980,2:11:17.400 somebody while doing it I don't think 2:11:16.020,2:11:19.380 you should be able to claim oh I was 2:11:17.400,2:11:21.620 drunk it shouldn't count I think that 2:11:19.380,2:11:24.420 then it should be oh no of course not no 2:11:21.620,2:11:27.540 and and that's the thing part of the 2:11:24.420,2:11:30.570 risk is if you do this you could end up 2:11:27.540,2:11:32.489 you know in jail for a long time and 2:11:30.570,2:11:34.350 have that on your on your conscience 2:11:32.489,2:11:36.180 that you killed someone or maim someone 2:11:34.350,2:11:38.580 or greatly harm someone or almost killed 2:11:36.180,2:11:40.220 someone or whatever but and again I'm 2:11:38.580,2:11:43.230 not even saying that we shouldn't be 2:11:40.220,2:11:46.830 stopping you know actively working to 2:11:43.230,2:11:48.570 stop DUIs because duis in and of 2:11:46.830,2:11:51.060 themselves people like to say duis 2:11:48.570,2:11:53.760 aren't victimless are victimless crimes 2:11:51.060,2:11:57.210 I think duis are crimes that are waiting 2:11:53.760,2:12:01.590 for a victim in a similar way that if I 2:11:57.210,2:12:03.690 walk out if I walk into the street if I 2:12:01.590,2:12:06.780 if I'm walking down the sidewalk and 2:12:03.690,2:12:08.520 just shooting my gun in the air that in 2:12:06.780,2:12:10.230 and of itself I haven't created a victim 2:12:08.520,2:12:14.310 yet until those bullets start falling 2:12:10.230,2:12:16.680 from the sky and killing people which by 2:12:14.310,2:12:17.970 the way don't ever shoot a gun in the 2:12:16.680,2:12:19.890 air like that especially if you're in 2:12:17.970,2:12:22.010 like a suburban or metro area because 2:12:19.890,2:12:24.150 those bullets this isn't this isn't a 2:12:22.010,2:12:26.670 Nintendo video game like the bullets 2:12:24.150,2:12:28.680 fall they don't like eat up in the 2:12:26.670,2:12:31.500 atmosphere anyway so the point of that 2:12:28.680,2:12:33.660 is of a crime a victim is waiting to 2:12:31.500,2:12:35.280 happen you might get lucky and get home 2:12:33.660,2:12:37.410 without any victims being created but 2:12:35.280,2:12:38.970 you are making conditions that could 2:12:37.410,2:12:41.489 lead to a victim happening I'm not 2:12:38.970,2:12:44.730 saying don't stop or or even don't tow 2:12:41.489,2:12:46.800 the cars of DUI people that are driving 2:12:44.730,2:12:48.510 under the influence I am saying there is 2:12:46.800,2:12:52.440 a better way to deal with it this way 2:12:48.510,2:12:53.369 has not worked this way has just ruined 2:12:52.440,2:12:56.280 people's lives 2:12:53.369,2:13:00.179 a better way is to actually deal with 2:12:56.280,2:13:02.129 the situation and try to try to find the 2:13:00.179,2:13:04.289 cause of why it happened in the first 2:13:02.129,2:13:07.110 place and make whole anyone who was 2:13:04.289,2:13:10.999 actually victimized but instead of this 2:13:07.110,2:13:13.439 focus on we are all people that can name 2:13:10.999,2:13:14.639 dozens of times that we screwed up and 2:13:13.439,2:13:16.709 could have been it could have ended up 2:13:14.639,2:13:18.329 in jail if the situation had been 2:13:16.709,2:13:20.639 different if you know if a cop had been 2:13:18.329,2:13:22.379 there basically we can all name dozen 2:13:20.639,2:13:23.820 some of us hundreds of times that we 2:13:22.379,2:13:25.499 would have ended up in jail but then 2:13:23.820,2:13:26.820 many of us when we hear that someone 2:13:25.499,2:13:27.899 else did the same thing we go well they 2:13:26.820,2:13:30.239 shouldn't have done it throw them in 2:13:27.899,2:13:32.879 jail ruin their life no we're all people 2:13:30.239,2:13:34.499 who make mistakes let's try to instead 2:13:32.879,2:13:36.179 make people whole so people can go back 2:13:34.499,2:13:38.189 to living their lives and maybe thrive 2:13:36.179,2:13:40.349 and learn from it and then if there's an 2:13:38.189,2:13:41.999 actual like root cause of a of a 2:13:40.349,2:13:43.619 consistent behavior and it's not just 2:13:41.999,2:13:45.899 someone making a stupid mistake but an 2:13:43.619,2:13:47.369 actual consistent behavior finding the 2:13:45.899,2:13:50.159 root cause of that and dealing with it 2:13:47.369,2:13:53.280 so that it doesn't happen anymore it 2:13:50.159,2:13:56.849 costs less money it costs less time it 2:13:53.280,2:13:58.949 leads to less a bad outcomes it leads to 2:13:56.849,2:14:01.260 more people having learned their lesson 2:13:58.949,2:14:03.269 and being able to get ahead and it leads 2:14:01.260,2:14:06.739 to the victims of these things actually 2:14:03.269,2:14:09.739 being made whole why wouldn't we do it 2:14:06.739,2:14:09.739 anyway 2:14:11.099,2:14:17.340 Ike Sanchez says I'm from a small town 2:14:15.149,2:14:20.070 got targeted because I smoked the ganja 2:14:17.340,2:14:23.699 now I have a pending felony for a plant 2:14:20.070,2:14:25.199 shouldn't have been illegal yeah that 2:14:23.699,2:14:26.459 goes beyond restorative justice you 2:14:25.199,2:14:27.479 shouldn't have even gone to jail for 2:14:26.459,2:14:29.099 that or you shouldn't have even been 2:14:27.479,2:14:30.629 arrested they shouldn't have even taken 2:14:29.099,2:14:32.519 it none of their business 2:14:30.629,2:14:34.409 right don't know where you're from sorry 2:14:32.519,2:14:35.459 for all of that that sucks and it 2:14:34.409,2:14:37.409 shouldn't be illegal 2:14:35.459,2:14:39.659 Christopher McQueen I was never asked to 2:14:37.409,2:14:41.610 go to a a by the judge he just threw the 2:14:39.659,2:14:43.439 book at me and gave me probation I go to 2:14:41.610,2:14:44.639 a a now on my own because I needed help 2:14:43.439,2:14:45.570 I wish someone told me to go to AAA 2:14:44.639,2:14:47.519 exactly 2:14:45.570,2:14:51.389 imagine if the judge had just said hey 2:14:47.519,2:14:52.679 listen go to AAA or go to al-anon or 2:14:51.389,2:14:54.209 whatever you know go to one of these 2:14:52.679,2:14:55.320 groups and go through the program and 2:14:54.209,2:14:57.629 come back and show me that you've done 2:14:55.320,2:14:58.769 it and you know I want you to I want you 2:14:57.629,2:15:00.719 to keep coming back and show me you 2:14:58.769,2:15:02.849 stayed clean for six months and in the 2:15:00.719,2:15:04.379 meantime or a year or whatever and in 2:15:02.849,2:15:05.820 the meantime I'm not gonna put anything 2:15:04.379,2:15:07.200 on your record you're not on probation 2:15:05.820,2:15:10.410 you're not whatever but you 2:15:07.200,2:15:12.510 to do this minimum sentencing guidelines 2:15:10.410,2:15:14.730 make this impossible for judges to be 2:15:12.510,2:15:17.460 able to like come up with common-sense 2:15:14.730,2:15:21.600 empathetic creative ways of saying hey 2:15:17.460,2:15:24.030 listen I you know I you shouldn't have 2:15:21.600,2:15:26.220 done this it's a it sounds to me like 2:15:24.030,2:15:27.510 you got a drinking problem before I 2:15:26.220,2:15:28.950 throw the book at you were punished you 2:15:27.510,2:15:30.180 I want you to get help I think you need 2:15:28.950,2:15:31.800 to get help I think you can agree you 2:15:30.180,2:15:34.290 need to get help so get help in them and 2:15:31.800,2:15:36.090 then and then six months from now a year 2:15:34.290,2:15:37.080 from now I go hey that's great 2:15:36.090,2:15:38.880 you never have to talk to me again 2:15:37.080,2:15:42.990 hopefully you don't get in trouble and 2:15:38.880,2:15:45.690 now you're sober this incident was the 2:15:42.990,2:15:48.270 catalyst instead of you having a burden 2:15:45.690,2:15:51.210 instead it's a catalyst for you removing 2:15:48.270,2:15:53.550 a burden so you can get ahead and again 2:15:51.210,2:15:56.970 as the former Law & Order conservative 2:15:53.550,2:15:58.470 that I am I know all those things that 2:15:56.970,2:16:00.390 people say when they hear this stuff 2:15:58.470,2:16:01.830 what with government helping people I'm 2:16:00.390,2:16:02.100 not even saying government needs to do 2:16:01.830,2:16:04.530 it 2:16:02.100,2:16:07.620 I'm just saying government doesn't harm 2:16:04.530,2:16:10.410 them doesn't arrest them tells them hey 2:16:07.620,2:16:12.390 listen go find someone who will help you 2:16:10.410,2:16:16.050 with this like an a a like an al-anon 2:16:12.390,2:16:18.000 like the you know like a church like any 2:16:16.050,2:16:20.430 of these things any of these groups that 2:16:18.000,2:16:22.320 would love to help people and would love 2:16:20.430,2:16:24.600 to help people get get back on their 2:16:22.320,2:16:26.700 feet or to address problems that they 2:16:24.600,2:16:29.100 have they would love that there's a 2:16:26.700,2:16:31.620 there's a ssin in in in Horry County 2:16:29.100,2:16:33.960 that gives free counseling service to 2:16:31.620,2:16:35.430 people that are lower income and I think 2:16:33.960,2:16:37.080 it's on a sliding scale - I think 2:16:35.430,2:16:39.150 there's free and then depending on your 2:16:37.080,2:16:41.070 income you can actually qualify for you 2:16:39.150,2:16:42.900 know let you know less cost where were 2:16:41.070,2:16:45.060 they and it's not government funded it's 2:16:42.900,2:16:49.110 just people don't want to help people 2:16:45.060,2:16:51.090 now one of the times that I had legal 2:16:49.110,2:16:56.450 troubles that was actually part of my 2:16:51.090,2:16:58.920 punishment was to go to na or in na or a 2:16:56.450,2:17:00.570 that was one of the punishments that I 2:16:58.920,2:17:03.090 had to do I also had to do community 2:17:00.570,2:17:06.090 service and some other crap but they 2:17:03.090,2:17:10.469 were like yeah if you can do this then 2:17:06.090,2:17:13.190 you'll be out and the second word in 2:17:10.469,2:17:15.060 both of those letters is anonymous so 2:17:13.190,2:17:16.710 you didn't have to go you just had to 2:17:15.060,2:17:19.469 get the slip signed by anybody it really 2:17:16.710,2:17:20.849 didn't matter and I discovered that very 2:17:19.469,2:17:23.429 quickly when I was 2:17:20.849,2:17:25.639 of that age but you know poor choices 2:17:23.429,2:17:28.320 and I knew that I was not ready to stop 2:17:25.639,2:17:31.440 doing everything that I was doing I knew 2:17:28.320,2:17:33.360 the half life inside of me so I knew 2:17:31.440,2:17:37.410 when I needed to stop doing anything 2:17:33.360,2:17:41.040 before I went to go show up to my tests 2:17:37.410,2:17:43.170 right I and as a result of that you kept 2:17:41.040,2:17:45.150 having interactions with with the police 2:17:43.170,2:17:46.590 and that's the thing and you know 2:17:45.150,2:17:49.889 eventually you realize this would this 2:17:46.590,2:17:51.150 had to stop and give in different 2:17:49.889,2:17:51.660 circumstances you could be in prison 2:17:51.150,2:17:55.889 right now 2:17:51.660,2:17:58.200 ya know many many many years right the 2:17:55.889,2:18:01.349 fact that I am NOT is actually very 2:17:58.200,2:18:04.349 surprising statistically it's not and 2:18:01.349,2:18:06.000 that's the problem is that there are 2:18:04.349,2:18:08.760 different outcomes for different groups 2:18:06.000,2:18:10.410 and identities and and the fact that I 2:18:08.760,2:18:12.540 didn't get caught more often as 2:18:10.410,2:18:15.660 surprising yeah that and that's that's 2:18:12.540,2:18:17.550 fair um so go through some of these a 2:18:15.660,2:18:19.260 Brittany Brissette I'm new to the party 2:18:17.550,2:18:20.490 but I've never supported a presidential 2:18:19.260,2:18:22.170 party the way I support you and Joe 2:18:20.490,2:18:24.120 thank you the common sense you both have 2:18:22.170,2:18:26.460 is so refreshing thank you thank you and 2:18:24.120,2:18:28.320 thank you for for for your support 2:18:26.460,2:18:29.760 Stephanie King my husband lost his 2:18:28.320,2:18:31.800 business a few years ago because they 2:18:29.760,2:18:33.480 impounded his work van when they found a 2:18:31.800,2:18:34.800 small amount of the plant in it and he 2:18:33.480,2:18:37.349 didn't have the money to get it back 2:18:34.800,2:18:38.639 your husband's yeah this is exactly what 2:18:37.349,2:18:39.900 I'm talking about which by the way that 2:18:38.639,2:18:41.070 ends under a Jorgensen Cohen 2:18:39.900,2:18:42.450 administration because not only do we 2:18:41.070,2:18:44.730 end the war on drugs on the federal 2:18:42.450,2:18:47.280 level by declining to enforce these laws 2:18:44.730,2:18:48.750 in the first place and and also by 2:18:47.280,2:18:52.740 firing people in the DEA and not 2:18:48.750,2:18:55.700 replacing them but we also tie the use 2:18:52.740,2:19:00.120 of cooperation between federal and state 2:18:55.700,2:19:03.920 police agencies on they're not violating 2:19:00.120,2:19:07.200 the constitutional rights of their 2:19:03.920,2:19:09.450 residents for example continuing the war 2:19:07.200,2:19:11.309 on drugs on the state level so if we 2:19:09.450,2:19:14.040 don't see them doing that no cooperation 2:19:11.309,2:19:16.860 at the federal level until they get 2:19:14.040,2:19:20.210 their way of policing and interacting 2:19:16.860,2:19:24.450 with the public in line with a very 2:19:20.210,2:19:26.520 closely defined set of limitations set 2:19:24.450,2:19:27.690 forth in the Constitution and as it 2:19:26.520,2:19:30.929 relates to the States 2:19:27.690,2:19:34.110 the affirmation of certain enumerated 2:19:30.929,2:19:34.349 rights that it clearly states that and a 2:19:34.110,2:19:36.479 fur 2:19:34.349,2:19:39.479 writes that it clearly states that the 2:19:36.479,2:19:40.889 American people have so in other words 2:19:39.479,2:19:45.559 we're gonna use that magic parchment and 2:19:40.889,2:19:45.559 actually enforce it so that'll be fun 2:19:46.349,2:19:49.710 Ethan Bishop henchman says that the 2:19:48.000,2:19:50.100 problem is and why people definitely do 2:19:49.710,2:19:51.810 this 2:19:50.100,2:19:53.369 to each other and less well off areas 2:19:51.810,2:19:54.689 like where I'm from some people like 2:19:53.369,2:19:56.520 these laws because they give themselves 2:19:54.689,2:19:57.989 a reason to feel superior to others and 2:19:56.520,2:20:00.210 helps to create visible class 2:19:57.989,2:20:02.609 destinations a very interesting thing 2:20:00.210,2:20:04.560 that Ethan is referring to about what we 2:20:02.609,2:20:05.819 call institutional racism a lot of 2:20:04.560,2:20:08.040 people when they hear institutional 2:20:05.819,2:20:10.020 racism they think that it's just against 2:20:08.040,2:20:12.270 people of color and people that aren't 2:20:10.020,2:20:14.970 white that's not true institutional 2:20:12.270,2:20:16.979 racism was set up to make the vast 2:20:14.970,2:20:20.189 majority of white people who are being 2:20:16.979,2:20:22.140 harmed to some extent by the status quo 2:20:20.189,2:20:24.359 in the system that is in place to feel 2:20:22.140,2:20:26.640 superior to others because well at least 2:20:24.359,2:20:29.489 I'm not as bad off as them which helps 2:20:26.640,2:20:34.470 kind of act as a bomb a soothing balm 2:20:29.489,2:20:36.210 for the distinctions I thought we were I 2:20:34.470,2:20:38.850 thought class destinations that was like 2:20:36.210,2:20:42.119 a new age a new you know hipster type of 2:20:38.850,2:20:44.460 term anyway yeah so I mean it's it's it 2:20:42.119,2:20:46.350 allows them to say well at least I might 2:20:44.460,2:20:49.050 as bad off as that guy instead of saying 2:20:46.350,2:20:50.430 hey this sucks what I'm going through 2:20:49.050,2:20:51.540 and I don't think it's fair on what that 2:20:50.430,2:20:53.460 guy's going through is even worse than 2:20:51.540,2:20:54.960 me what a terrible thing he's going 2:20:53.460,2:20:57.210 through we definitely need to stop 2:20:54.960,2:20:59.699 what's happening to us instead it's it's 2:20:57.210,2:21:02.399 it's laid out in such a way that leads 2:20:59.699,2:21:04.890 people to go well at least in my eyes 2:21:02.399,2:21:06.630 bad off is that guy I'm better I'm 2:21:04.890,2:21:09.540 benefiting from this system no you're 2:21:06.630,2:21:12.869 not not benefit well uh one of our good 2:21:09.540,2:21:14.189 friends posted this week if you don't 2:21:12.869,2:21:15.630 want to get in trick I'm gonna 2:21:14.189,2:21:17.850 paraphrase the crap out of this because 2:21:15.630,2:21:22.229 it's not in front of me but he said if 2:21:17.850,2:21:25.979 you're out there saying if you're out 2:21:22.229,2:21:26.819 there saying how do you put it if you 2:21:25.979,2:21:28.409 don't want to get in trouble with the 2:21:26.819,2:21:30.119 police don't do anything illegal and I 2:21:28.409,2:21:32.580 know the name of your drug dealer you 2:21:30.119,2:21:34.859 should probably just shut up and you see 2:21:32.580,2:21:37.140 that a lot people who do a lot of legal 2:21:34.859,2:21:42.149 things that they know are illegal will 2:21:37.140,2:21:43.020 quickly go to will quickly go to well 2:21:42.149,2:21:44.310 they should have been doing anything 2:21:43.020,2:21:47.279 illegal if they don't want to get there 2:21:44.310,2:21:48.360 you do a legal thing you do with films 2:21:47.279,2:21:50.040 uh 2:21:48.360,2:21:51.931 all of us do what is it the average 2:21:50.040,2:21:57.301 American commits three felonies a day or 2:21:51.931,2:21:59.880 some ridiculous thing 7 this is 7 I mean 2:21:57.301,2:22:05.700 even three is bad enough yeah I'm 90% 2:21:59.880,2:22:07.980 certain at 7 whatever it is more than 2:22:05.700,2:22:11.730 one the average American is is 2:22:07.980,2:22:15.740 committing a felony more than once a day 2:22:11.730,2:22:18.690 you're more than zero yeah 2:22:15.740,2:22:21.511 that means that there you may go through 2:22:18.690,2:22:22.950 your random average day in which you 2:22:21.511,2:22:24.511 feel that you are not doing anything 2:22:22.950,2:22:31.980 illegal like you're just living your 2:22:24.511,2:22:33.870 life on average 7 it's just and this I 2:22:31.980,2:22:36.450 just pulled up an article there's you 2:22:33.870,2:22:38.730 know it says 8 ways we regularly commit 2:22:36.450,2:22:42.630 felonies without realizing it so for us 2:22:38.730,2:22:44.221 to go back and say oh you shouldn't be 2:22:42.630,2:22:45.570 breaking the law well let's first of all 2:22:44.221,2:22:46.980 let's look at if the law is something 2:22:45.570,2:22:49.980 that should even exist if this 2:22:46.980,2:22:53.910 particular law is something that should 2:22:49.980,2:22:55.530 even exist in the first place and if it 2:22:53.910,2:22:56.301 is let's look at how common it is that 2:22:55.530,2:22:58.410 it's broken 2:22:56.301,2:22:59.910 cuz like you know that time when you 2:22:58.410,2:23:02.011 didn't come to a complete and full stop 2:22:59.910,2:23:03.660 at the stop sign because you could 2:23:02.011,2:23:05.400 already see that there was no one 2:23:03.660,2:23:06.750 anywhere near you and you could just 2:23:05.400,2:23:06.931 kind of roll through it you broke the 2:23:06.750,2:23:10.351 law 2:23:06.931,2:23:12.061 that's against the law and if a cop is 2:23:10.351,2:23:14.160 hidden somewhere they can arrest you for 2:23:12.061,2:23:15.690 that or they can pull you over and then 2:23:14.160,2:23:20.221 if they've been pulling you over they 2:23:15.690,2:23:24.931 smell something or you're gonna look it 2:23:20.221,2:23:28.860 up it is 3 it's not 7 still more than 0 2:23:24.931,2:23:31.530 more than 0 and that's the problem it is 2:23:28.860,2:23:33.511 a problem let's go through some of these 2:23:31.530,2:23:38.250 comments here and then what we'll need 2:23:33.511,2:23:42.290 to wrap up because I'm pushing 3 I've 2:23:38.250,2:23:48.091 been doing what we're going into our our 2:23:42.290,2:23:50.250 300 you already gave the website for 2:23:48.091,2:23:54.240 yeah if anyone wants to watch this Muddy 2:23:50.250,2:23:56.070 Waters media.com Vickie Fox whoosh 2:23:54.240,2:23:58.051 Douglas says can't confirm and I'm a 2:23:56.070,2:23:59.730 white survivor of cop brutality keyword 2:23:58.051,2:24:01.771 survivor there's something there 2:23:59.730,2:24:03.391 Casey Neth says 2:24:01.771,2:24:05.370 absolutely just as some jobs are 2:24:03.391,2:24:05.761 dangerous while drinking yeah alcohol is 2:24:05.370,2:24:09.320 legal 2:24:05.761,2:24:12.870 it's about responsible use exactly like 2:24:09.320,2:24:15.330 unless you're having or using something 2:24:12.870,2:24:16.620 is impairing you in such a way at a time 2:24:15.330,2:24:18.721 when it could be dangerous to others 2:24:16.620,2:24:21.030 then it's no one's business 2:24:18.721,2:24:24.450 vixie I hope I'm saying this right vixie 2:24:21.030,2:24:27.450 Fox wished Douglas and Qi and black I 2:24:24.450,2:24:29.551 assume you mean quantitative qualified 2:24:27.450,2:24:31.381 immunity and black lives matter that's 2:24:29.551,2:24:33.171 what our campaign is all about is ending 2:24:31.381,2:24:35.190 that um 2:24:33.171,2:24:37.051 Christopher McQueen people in my town 2:24:35.190,2:24:38.841 check the geo roster every morning just 2:24:37.051,2:24:44.070 so they can gossip we have these stupid 2:24:38.841,2:24:45.570 newspapers at the UM like at gas 2:24:44.070,2:24:48.181 stations when you're checking out and 2:24:45.570,2:24:50.341 there are these newspapers and it shows 2:24:48.181,2:24:52.351 everyone's you know uh you know mug 2:24:50.341,2:24:53.671 shots from that week and people look at 2:24:52.351,2:24:54.900 it oh look at this guy and I'm looking 2:24:53.671,2:24:57.150 at the person saying this I'm like you 2:24:54.900,2:25:00.751 don't look much better and it really is 2:24:57.150,2:25:03.150 this just this like really stratified 2:25:00.751,2:25:05.490 classism but its classism even within 2:25:03.150,2:25:08.120 that class people who just feel superior 2:25:05.490,2:25:12.150 to others and they're leveraging a 2:25:08.120,2:25:14.190 punitive state to give them just some 2:25:12.150,2:25:16.921 semblance of feeling better than others 2:25:14.190,2:25:19.801 because that same state has harmed them 2:25:16.921,2:25:22.141 so much that it has left them and their 2:25:19.801,2:25:24.961 family and their communities in a state 2:25:22.141,2:25:28.051 of stagnant and in a state of just being 2:25:24.961,2:25:29.730 unable to get ahead but they get to read 2:25:28.051,2:25:31.381 that thing that makes them feel a little 2:25:29.730,2:25:33.421 bit better than that guy that just got 2:25:31.381,2:25:36.120 arrested and hope and then hopefully 2:25:33.421,2:25:41.461 they don't get arrested and get made fun 2:25:36.120,2:25:44.671 of next I find Matt's mugshot there are 2:25:41.461,2:25:47.070 multiple so have fun yeah really 2:25:44.671,2:25:48.721 Lance Hawk spike Owen can you comment on 2:25:47.070,2:25:50.311 how the LP will address pollution and 2:25:48.721,2:25:53.490 environmental damage in a deregulated 2:25:50.311,2:25:54.961 corporate environment that's actually 2:25:53.490,2:25:57.301 the answer a treaty regulated 2:25:54.961,2:25:59.190 environment the what we have right now 2:25:57.301,2:26:01.980 is a system whereby the government is 2:25:59.190,2:26:03.330 the largest pollute polluter easily the 2:26:01.980,2:26:06.181 government especially the military is 2:26:03.330,2:26:10.171 the largest polluter largest single 2:26:06.181,2:26:11.521 polluter and they are using they are 2:26:10.171,2:26:14.431 giving carve-outs 2:26:11.521,2:26:15.279 to their favored cronies businesses so 2:26:14.431,2:26:17.770 that when they 2:26:15.279,2:26:20.260 have a massive leak or when they have a 2:26:17.770,2:26:22.689 you know a meltdown or when they you 2:26:20.260,2:26:24.220 know release toxins into the air they 2:26:22.689,2:26:26.350 get carve-outs because they're too big 2:26:24.220,2:26:27.970 to fail the other other thing that 2:26:26.350,2:26:30.580 happens is that they create a series of 2:26:27.970,2:26:34.029 burdensome regulations to our domestic 2:26:30.580,2:26:37.149 business market for one reason I just 2:26:34.029,2:26:39.760 put a one hint for one reason to make it 2:26:37.149,2:26:42.010 so unaffordable to do business here that 2:26:39.760,2:26:43.870 no smaller competitors can rise up and 2:26:42.010,2:26:46.120 disrupt the market and knock any of 2:26:43.870,2:26:49.620 those extremely wealthy well-heeled 2:26:46.120,2:26:53.140 crony businesses off their place and 2:26:49.620,2:26:54.880 what they know is that when they do that 2:26:53.140,2:26:57.069 when they make it unaffordable to do 2:26:54.880,2:26:58.479 business here they can more than afford 2:26:57.069,2:27:00.939 to move their bases of operation 2:26:58.479,2:27:04.479 overseas to places like China and 2:27:00.939,2:27:06.819 Malaysia and Vietnam and Mexico and 2:27:04.479,2:27:09.370 other places to other countries where 2:27:06.819,2:27:11.020 the regulations aren't as high and it 2:27:09.370,2:27:12.760 costs much less to do business here so 2:27:11.020,2:27:14.890 that it's so much less to do business 2:27:12.760,2:27:16.270 there that it's even once you factor in 2:27:14.890,2:27:18.399 the cost and now shipping all of that 2:27:16.270,2:27:20.439 stuff back over here it's still less 2:27:18.399,2:27:21.880 expensive than the overly burdensome 2:27:20.439,2:27:24.370 environment they have created for 2:27:21.880,2:27:26.620 everyone else you know us who can't 2:27:24.370,2:27:28.660 afford that and therefore aren't able to 2:27:26.620,2:27:32.380 do the things we want to do how many 2:27:28.660,2:27:35.830 great ideas have been destroyed because 2:27:32.380,2:27:38.410 some person in their garage couldn't 2:27:35.830,2:27:40.689 afford the thousands or tens of 2:27:38.410,2:27:43.239 thousands or even hundreds of thousands 2:27:40.689,2:27:45.279 of dollars in compliance costs to even 2:27:43.239,2:27:47.470 try to do it in the first place 2:27:45.279,2:27:49.180 and now we look at the environmental 2:27:47.470,2:27:51.040 damage that is happening as a result of 2:27:49.180,2:27:53.649 instead of something being made here and 2:27:51.040,2:27:55.210 shipped here now it's being made 2:27:53.649,2:27:56.590 somewhere else where they have no 2:27:55.210,2:27:58.180 environmental controls or even any 2:27:56.590,2:28:01.120 concern for the environment or 2:27:58.180,2:28:02.649 stewardship for the environment and then 2:28:01.120,2:28:06.279 it shipped back over here which 2:28:02.649,2:28:08.590 exponentially increases the carbon 2:28:06.279,2:28:11.140 footprint for every single one of those 2:28:08.590,2:28:13.180 products that are and goods that are 2:28:11.140,2:28:15.880 being made and shipped over here and now 2:28:13.180,2:28:17.770 it makes sense when you wonder why the 2:28:15.880,2:28:20.770 carbon footprint of the US continues to 2:28:17.770,2:28:23.859 go down while its skyrockets everywhere 2:28:20.770,2:28:26.170 else that's why because all of its being 2:28:23.859,2:28:27.510 moved from here to other places and we 2:28:26.170,2:28:29.140 already know the impact of that 2:28:27.510,2:28:30.670 financially in economic 2:28:29.140,2:28:31.899 the fact that an increasing number of 2:28:30.670,2:28:33.340 people are losing their jobs to 2:28:31.899,2:28:35.470 offshoring of businesses we know the 2:28:33.340,2:28:36.880 social impact of people entire groups of 2:28:35.470,2:28:39.010 people entire communities that used to 2:28:36.880,2:28:40.659 have gainful employment now can't do so 2:28:39.010,2:28:42.040 because the basis of operation for where 2:28:40.659,2:28:44.529 they used to work have been moved 2:28:42.040,2:28:46.960 thousands of miles away leaving them to 2:28:44.529,2:28:48.880 be Ward's of the state which tears on 2:28:46.960,2:28:49.600 the very fabric of a community that 2:28:48.880,2:28:51.550 feels that they are no longer 2:28:49.600,2:28:53.529 contributors and instead are Ward's of 2:28:51.550,2:28:55.029 the state and all of the terrible social 2:28:53.529,2:29:00.340 outcomes that happen as a result of that 2:28:55.029,2:29:02.140 suicide crime fatherless homes addiction 2:29:00.340,2:29:03.970 every terrible thing that happens as a 2:29:02.140,2:29:05.649 result of someone being robbed of their 2:29:03.970,2:29:08.979 dignity and their ability to contribute 2:29:05.649,2:29:12.699 and grow and move ahead but going back 2:29:08.979,2:29:14.350 to your talk about environmentalism take 2:29:12.699,2:29:16.180 the cronies out of it take the 2:29:14.350,2:29:20.229 government out of it and now all of a 2:29:16.180,2:29:22.750 sudden you can't have cronies destroying 2:29:20.229,2:29:24.790 the domestic labor market and the 2:29:22.750,2:29:26.890 domestic business market and bringing 2:29:24.790,2:29:29.170 stuff and and and and doing an end run 2:29:26.890,2:29:30.760 around it and bringing they wouldn't 2:29:29.170,2:29:32.770 have to move those jobs open no one 2:29:30.760,2:29:34.420 would be moving jobs to the other side 2:29:32.770,2:29:36.670 of the planet to dictatorial regimes 2:29:34.420,2:29:38.710 using sweatshop labor and shipping it 2:29:36.670,2:29:40.330 back here if those regulatory burdens 2:29:38.710,2:29:41.949 weren't here in the first place because 2:29:40.330,2:29:44.050 if those regulatory burdens were weren't 2:29:41.949,2:29:45.220 here they just make it here and it would 2:29:44.050,2:29:47.260 be even cheaper than that whole 2:29:45.220,2:29:50.560 arrangement and the environmental cost 2:29:47.260,2:29:52.449 would be much less and all of the people 2:29:50.560,2:29:54.250 who right now are being stopped from 2:29:52.449,2:29:57.220 creating the next amazing thing that 2:29:54.250,2:29:58.659 will help the environment aren't going 2:29:57.220,2:30:00.130 to be stopped from doing so because they 2:29:58.659,2:30:01.630 can't afford the tens or hundreds of 2:30:00.130,2:30:04.870 thousands of dollars in compliance cost 2:30:01.630,2:30:07.359 so that is how you answer it and also if 2:30:04.870,2:30:09.220 you stop doing carve-outs and their 2:30:07.359,2:30:12.130 version of qualified immunity for big 2:30:09.220,2:30:14.199 businesses now they can be sued which is 2:30:12.130,2:30:17.560 a deterrent we've been talking about 2:30:14.199,2:30:18.729 qualified immunity all night if you look 2:30:17.560,2:30:20.199 at our environmental laws they are 2:30:18.729,2:30:23.310 basically a series of qualified immunity 2:30:20.199,2:30:26.140 for big businesses who in exchange for 2:30:23.310,2:30:28.090 exchange of cooperating with the 2:30:26.140,2:30:30.640 authorities never have to pay any real 2:30:28.090,2:30:33.250 they pay mild fines that are nothing 2:30:30.640,2:30:35.680 close to what they'd have to pay in 2:30:33.250,2:30:38.800 lawsuits if they weren't protected by 2:30:35.680,2:30:40.750 the government so on any question when 2:30:38.800,2:30:42.729 people say without government who would 2:30:40.750,2:30:44.949 do X the answer is we 2:30:42.729,2:30:47.949 do X and we wouldn't have the government 2:30:44.949,2:30:48.789 there making it harder or in some cases 2:30:47.949,2:30:50.590 impossible 2:30:48.789,2:30:52.390 so for this specific question without 2:30:50.590,2:30:54.430 government who would protect the 2:30:52.390,2:30:56.350 environment we would and government 2:30:54.430,2:30:58.479 wouldn't stop us from suing the 2:30:56.350,2:31:00.789 polluters and they wouldn't be creating 2:30:58.479,2:31:04.810 barriers that make a much more polluting 2:31:00.789,2:31:07.439 way of doing business more affordable so 2:31:04.810,2:31:07.439 that's the answer for that 2:31:09.930,2:31:15.100 Stephanie King wants to know which 2:31:13.149,2:31:21.819 Hogwarts house you think you'd be sorted 2:31:15.100,2:31:26.260 into Hufflepuff I don't even like i-ight 2:31:21.819,2:31:29.770 that might be Pokemon now that's is that 2:31:26.260,2:31:33.609 is that Harry Potter yes I'm thinking of 2:31:29.770,2:31:37.390 juggling puffs I would be the house of 2:31:33.609,2:31:46.409 Jigglypuff I don't have to think I know 2:31:37.390,2:31:46.409 ravenclaw raven Jigglypuff 2:31:51.250,2:31:56.820 so yeah how's the campaign what's going 2:31:53.050,2:31:59.590 on campaigns going fantastic we have 2:31:56.820,2:32:03.010 tens of thousands of volunteers now our 2:31:59.590,2:32:05.500 our group that was created actually it 2:32:03.010,2:32:06.820 used to just be a private group for Joe 2:32:05.500,2:32:09.850 and her campaign team back when they 2:32:06.820,2:32:12.790 were trying to win the nomination it now 2:32:09.850,2:32:16.690 has something like 40,000 members it is 2:32:12.790,2:32:18.910 incredibly vibrant we have we are well 2:32:16.690,2:32:22.660 we are beyond what was expected in terms 2:32:18.910,2:32:24.310 of fundraising goals and I'm not sure if 2:32:22.660,2:32:25.870 NDA allows me to say what that amount is 2:32:24.310,2:32:27.460 I think it does but it just to be safe 2:32:25.870,2:32:29.650 I'm not gonna say it but we are ahead of 2:32:27.460,2:32:33.250 what we were expected to be at at this 2:32:29.650,2:32:34.840 point and unlike the previous ticket we 2:32:33.250,2:32:40.210 aren't just handing all of it to ron 2:32:34.840,2:32:42.760 nielsen and so going incredibly well on 2:32:40.210,2:32:45.130 a personal note I'm going to be so my 2:32:42.760,2:32:49.510 episode that I referenced from last week 2:32:45.130,2:32:52.300 my episode with my panel with Antonio 2:32:49.510,2:32:54.550 Okafor over there on the Left she's the 2:32:52.300,2:32:57.280 director of outreach for the Gun Owners 2:32:54.550,2:33:00.610 of America who are like the NRA except 2:32:57.280,2:33:05.820 they don't suck and on the right there 2:33:00.610,2:33:08.440 Marshall TIG Davis who is the she's a 2:33:05.820,2:33:11.110 nationally regarded firearms instructor 2:33:08.440,2:33:13.360 and the owner of My Sister's Keeper 2:33:11.110,2:33:15.400 defense we had an amazing panel 2:33:13.360,2:33:17.530 discussion on my show my fellow 2:33:15.400,2:33:19.090 Americans where we talked about the 2:33:17.530,2:33:21.520 Second Amendment and civil liberties and 2:33:19.090,2:33:22.990 self-protection and the interaction 2:33:21.520,2:33:25.750 between police and communities of color 2:33:22.990,2:33:28.630 and the history of those interactions 2:33:25.750,2:33:30.610 and civil and I think I already said 2:33:28.630,2:33:34.570 civil liberties and all sorts of stuff 2:33:30.610,2:33:36.370 it went so well that I am currently 2:33:34.570,2:33:39.400 working with the Gun Owners of America 2:33:36.370,2:33:42.370 and the Libertarian Party and Antonia 2:33:39.400,2:33:44.290 and I believe take as well to do an 2:33:42.370,2:33:46.540 expanded version of that panel at the 2:33:44.290,2:33:47.980 convention and so the details on that 2:33:46.540,2:33:50.950 will be available soon we're still 2:33:47.980,2:33:53.020 working on the exact dates and the exact 2:33:50.950,2:33:54.310 layout but it's looking like it's gonna 2:33:53.020,2:33:57.520 be a really cool thing we're gonna have 2:33:54.310,2:33:58.860 hopefully both of them back and then 2:33:57.520,2:34:01.900 we'll have a few more people 2:33:58.860,2:34:03.730 representing to demonstrate that it sort 2:34:01.900,2:34:04.760 of debunk the whole idea that gun rights 2:34:03.730,2:34:08.810 are a hey wait 2:34:04.760,2:34:11.060 thing and and that it's you know they're 2:34:08.810,2:34:13.430 about self-protection it's about being 2:34:11.060,2:34:16.130 able to be on equal footing with those 2:34:13.430,2:34:17.569 who presume adore you it's about your 2:34:16.130,2:34:19.250 civil liberty to be able to defend 2:34:17.569,2:34:21.080 yourself it's about self-protection it's 2:34:19.250,2:34:23.710 about all of those things and so that's 2:34:21.080,2:34:26.899 a it's an incredible thing it's 2:34:23.710,2:34:27.410 fantastic and campaigns been going 2:34:26.899,2:34:33.410 amazing 2:34:27.410,2:34:34.460 go ahead I was gonna say Aaron though if 2:34:33.410,2:34:37.640 I pronounced that wrong here and I 2:34:34.460,2:34:39.200 apologize if t-shirts coming soon I 2:34:37.640,2:34:40.340 assume she means for the campaign but 2:34:39.200,2:34:42.260 just in case she doesn't go to muddy 2:34:40.340,2:34:44.270 waters mediacom and go visit the store 2:34:42.260,2:34:45.740 yeah we have a store we have a store but 2:34:44.270,2:34:47.479 for the campaign the branded merchandise 2:34:45.740,2:34:49.520 is coming very soon I believe this 2:34:47.479,2:34:51.260 coming week that that's gonna be rolled 2:34:49.520,2:34:52.580 out but there is already some branded 2:34:51.260,2:34:56.090 merchandise I don't know about a shirt 2:34:52.580,2:35:05.149 but if you go to the LP store which is I 2:34:56.090,2:35:07.250 think dot org there's already some 2:35:05.149,2:35:08.540 Jorgensen Cohen's stuff there but that 2:35:07.250,2:35:10.160 we do have the brain of merchandise 2:35:08.540,2:35:12.950 coming very very soon 2:35:10.160,2:35:16.420 and Ethan Bishop henchman wants to know 2:35:12.950,2:35:19.460 if we're both coming to convention I'm 2:35:16.420,2:35:21.439 99% certain spike is going and I will be 2:35:19.460,2:35:24.470 there some days since I don't live all 2:35:21.439,2:35:30.649 that far yeah I will definitely be there 2:35:24.470,2:35:33.950 I'll actually be at the hotel and I will 2:35:30.649,2:35:37.790 show up whenever I deem it necessary to 2:35:33.950,2:35:40.189 drive to Orlando and back and back and 2:35:37.790,2:35:43.479 back yeah he'll be there we'll both be 2:35:40.189,2:35:48.279 there I will be there be there because 2:35:43.479,2:35:52.670 I'm the vice presidential candidate and 2:35:48.279,2:35:54.020 so let's see here um is GOI going to 2:35:52.670,2:35:56.210 officially endorse you that would be 2:35:54.020,2:35:58.939 amazing I don't know I'm certainly 2:35:56.210,2:36:03.550 certainly not expecting or demanding 2:35:58.939,2:36:03.550 that but uh that would be amazing 2:36:06.010,2:36:11.750 no pressure 2:36:07.779,2:36:13.580 mark Mauricio says as president VP how 2:36:11.750,2:36:15.740 would you and Joe weigh in if a state 2:36:13.580,2:36:17.530 wish to secede I'm going to leave that 2:36:15.740,2:36:20.700 to Joe I don't know that we have 2:36:17.530,2:36:24.990 official position on secession I 2:36:20.700,2:36:24.990 certainly have some opinions about it 2:36:31.500,2:36:38.021 I'm pretty certain most people can guess 2:36:35.320,2:36:39.790 it yeah 2:36:38.021,2:36:41.650 will there be flags I need one to 2:36:39.790,2:36:43.030 counteract the giant Trump flag okay we 2:36:41.650,2:36:44.590 get asked that a lie when I want a 2:36:43.030,2:36:46.601 calendar might this in my neighbors 2:36:44.590,2:36:48.160 Trump flack there will be flags and I 2:36:46.601,2:36:51.521 believe they'll peace Torah has flags 2:36:48.160,2:36:52.931 right now but we will be flug political 2:36:51.521,2:36:55.090 prisoner to yes you should be there yeah 2:36:52.931,2:36:56.891 exactly I kind of have to be there even 2:36:55.090,2:37:00.700 if I I don't want to be there but even 2:36:56.891,2:37:04.420 if I didn't want to be there I have to 2:37:00.700,2:37:08.710 be there Sarah and Andrew noted super 2:37:04.420,2:37:12.070 fan Sarah Anne and reg Nona 2:37:08.710,2:37:14.530 says I'll probably drive because gas 2:37:12.070,2:37:17.500 mileage okay well yeah we're gonna go 2:37:14.530,2:37:19.690 together so she is going to be driving 2:37:17.500,2:37:23.650 because her car gets much better gas 2:37:19.690,2:37:27.540 mileage than my Jeep well yeah because 2:37:23.650,2:37:29.561 it closes it's a car cuz it's a car 2:37:27.540,2:37:30.820 Ethan I assume they wouldn't care as 2:37:29.561,2:37:33.610 long as there was a free and transparent 2:37:30.820,2:37:36.101 referendum when most of the population 2:37:33.610,2:37:40.351 wasn't enslaved and unable to vote hey 2:37:36.101,2:37:40.351 that sounds like something I might say 2:37:40.980,2:37:51.910 about secession it might but that sounds 2:37:49.931,2:37:56.830 very close to something they'd say it 2:37:51.910,2:38:01.391 sounds like certainly don't want to see 2:37:56.830,2:38:04.210 verbatim I don't want to tip my hand 2:38:01.391,2:38:08.380 here or anything but that sounds like 2:38:04.210,2:38:15.271 like a real in that a real great day in 2:38:08.380,2:38:22.750 the morning oh it's Reynolds just really 2:38:15.271,2:38:24.670 just know the answers 18 by the way just 2:38:22.750,2:38:27.490 so you know Chris Reynolds but thank you 2:38:24.670,2:38:29.230 for pointing it out I'm not reading it 2:38:27.490,2:38:30.740 out loud people can just guess what 18 2:38:29.230,2:38:33.760 that's probably just as well 2:38:30.740,2:38:36.650 honestly I think you needed a little 2:38:33.760,2:38:38.630 we're also dropping driving stopping for 2:38:36.650,2:38:42.891 a super gay libertarian day at the beach 2:38:38.630,2:38:47.230 for my birthday on the 6th so so Beach 2:38:42.891,2:38:47.230 gays we um 2:38:48.250,2:38:53.500 there were something I was gonna say but 2:38:50.300,2:38:56.540 Beach gays I threw myself off of that 2:38:53.500,2:38:58.641 you're stopping in Florida at a beach 2:38:56.540,2:39:02.870 like that is literally Florida 2:38:58.641,2:39:04.730 - like part of the middle hey you could 2:39:02.870,2:39:07.130 stop anywhere yeah there's so many 2:39:04.730,2:39:11.210 places to stop it's really just a giant 2:39:07.130,2:39:15.590 beach it's like a giant phallus shaped 2:39:11.210,2:39:18.910 beach that was the original Florida 2:39:15.590,2:39:21.910 motto back when it was part of New Spain 2:39:18.910,2:39:21.910 yes 2:39:26.970,2:39:42.220 hey Matt okay stopping in South Carolina 2:39:31.990,2:39:47.320 oh we're in South Carolina yeah the 2:39:42.220,2:39:49.601 original the original Floridian motto 2:39:47.320,2:39:52.240 back when it was part of Spain was and 2:39:49.601,2:40:02.250 really died it's almost solo una playa 2:39:52.240,2:40:09.460 Gigante and for my dear fellow so Matt 2:40:02.250,2:40:11.940 yes I'm just really tight like I can't 2:40:09.460,2:40:15.790 even end this show on that tire Matt 2:40:11.940,2:40:17.320 about 20 minutes ago it's just like I'm 2:40:15.790,2:40:22.630 not even doing a show at this point I'm 2:40:17.320,2:40:27.130 just talking to people uh so Matt hey hi 2:40:22.630,2:40:30.940 if people hey if people were to want to 2:40:27.130,2:40:34.750 find us on the internet how is that even 2:40:30.940,2:40:37.930 possible it is possible they can head 2:40:34.750,2:40:40.240 over to anchor dot F M / muddied waters 2:40:37.930,2:40:43.680 and follow us if you just want to hear 2:40:40.240,2:40:49.960 our sweet buttery sultry voices I know I 2:40:43.680,2:41:12.790 know just wake up to this and ASMR 2:40:49.960,2:41:13.900 everybody up rise shouldn't do this for 2:41:12.790,2:41:16.930 the campaign if you want to follow the 2:41:13.900,2:41:20.260 campaign go to joj 2020 dot-com or you 2:41:16.930,2:41:24.271 can follow me on twitter at real spike 2:41:20.260,2:41:29.440 Cohen or on Facebook at facebook.com 2:41:24.271,2:41:34.030 slash literally spike Cohen so we have a 2:41:29.440,2:41:36.430 show Tuesday right yeah yeah so we'll be 2:41:34.030,2:41:39.340 back check us out in three days yeah 2:41:36.430,2:41:41.760 we'll be back on Tuesday having used 2:41:39.340,2:41:43.930 most of our content for Tuesday today 2:41:41.760,2:41:48.580 it's gonna be it's gonna be like a 2:41:43.930,2:41:51.700 40-minute show and unless nigga happens 2:41:48.580,2:41:53.080 I may just like pull the Trump the Trump 2:41:51.700,2:41:55.510 rally and just take we'll just talk 2:41:53.080,2:41:58.149 about the Trump rally yeah it'd be like 2:41:55.510,2:42:02.350 it'll be like a minisode it's like a 20 2:41:58.149,2:42:06.399 minute deal so yeah we will be back on 2:42:02.350,2:42:11.350 Tuesday and Wednesday bound to do 2:42:06.399,2:42:14.260 something on Wednesday meet looking 2:42:11.350,2:42:17.340 forward me too can't wait to tell you it 2:42:14.260,2:42:17.340 can't wait 2:42:17.640,2:42:24.520 yeah that's hey everybody enjoy your 2:42:21.250,2:42:26.290 first day of summer and oh by the way 2:42:24.520,2:42:27.670 I'm not sure if it's true or not but 2:42:26.290,2:42:29.260 allegedly the world was supposed to end 2:42:27.670,2:42:41.859 tomorrow so we may not have the 2:42:29.260,2:42:45.430 Aleutians wait according to whom it's 2:42:41.859,2:42:48.189 has something to do with the Gregorian 2:42:45.430,2:42:50.260 calendar transverse to transposed to the 2:42:48.189,2:42:55.600 caesarean calendar and how it didn't 2:42:50.260,2:42:58.510 match up to the December 12th 2020 or 2:42:55.600,2:43:01.479 2012 thing and yeah anyway 2:42:58.510,2:43:03.700 I'm certain it's not true but according 2:43:01.479,2:43:05.890 to somebody they said that that was the 2:43:03.700,2:43:07.540 thing I didn't fact check it I just 2:43:05.890,2:43:09.700 wanted to mention it because I found it 2:43:07.540,2:43:10.600 to be hilarious well that's a cheery 2:43:09.700,2:43:15.720 note to end on 2:43:10.600,2:43:18.160 hey guys this might be our last episode 2:43:15.720,2:43:23.140 and not just last this might be our last 2:43:18.160,2:43:23.920 everything love you guys thanks for 2:43:23.140,2:43:26.080 tuning in 2:43:23.920,2:43:27.100 we'll see you on Tuesday which is 2:43:26.080,2:43:29.260 definitely happening because Matt's 2:43:27.100,2:43:30.970 thing is not true and then we'll see you 2:43:29.260,2:43:33.220 on Wednesday for another episode of my 2:43:30.970,2:43:36.990 fellow Americans and where we're going 2:43:33.220,2:43:36.990 we don't need roads 2:43:53.960,2:43:57.410 hello can you hear me 2:44:20.330,2:44:23.330 like 2:45:02.260,2:45:06.820 Thank You Juan Ramirez followed by 2:45:13.400,2:45:15.460 you 2:45:15.931,2:45:21.760 you about the luge 2:45:18.160,2:45:24.190 John you about to lose your job get 2:45:21.760,2:45:28.470 these things you were gonna lose your 2:45:24.190,2:45:28.470 job cause you are detaining me 2:46:29.521,2:46:33.181 so I got no 2:46:42.300,2:46:44.359 you